#The Union of Soviet Socialist Planets
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Full disclosure I dont really treat stc as a command role icly or oocly. If Ace has on-station authority he doesn't really use it much, generally its everyone else in USSP leading the ship and Ace just following along. He just manages traffic and the station guns
Really? STC on camelot seems to have quite a pull on people most of the time
since its a somewhat central role to keeping the station running
Yeah I mean he was hired initially by Emeric to do it, on paper he might have authority but ngl its sortve an all-for-one thing, he takes direction from USSP comms and the people in it hes worked with for a while.
To be fair here, the guy sitting on the gun console is generally gonna have a lot of sway if you don’t want him to accidentally misfire your ship 30 times
“misfire”

he has misfired my ship on occasion
tore it in half actually
USSP ships get one more warning than other ships at least
xD
From Ace, have seen a few Wyverns get crippled to the point of jumping to drone territory
Pretty sure ive only fought one Wyvern
The others I tried to bait in all adhered to their population center programming
It doesn’t happen often enough my STC friend
It doesn't
If only those cowards had the gumption to push Camelot
But I also haven't upgraded Camelot in a while
does camelot even stand a chance?
We won last time
I'm pretty sure it has been "disarmed" a few days back
but i was working medical that shift so i couldnt investigate, lots of work on other "disarmed" vessels
Camelot is close ties to halcyon in terms of ship defense strength
Its basically only beat out in range, which camelot struggles REALLY badly with
Yeah thats mb. I have a habit of not glassing Asakim if they silently dock when its not an NFZ, cause technically I lack justification. But at this point Im willing to profile. We know thats what they are there for when chims arent about, so going forward Aces stc policy for the super recognizeable unknowns is "If it doesnt hail it ceases to exist"
I don't consider Luka to really be a "leader" either, originally he was a intelligence officer sent by ussp high command to covertly keep tabs on ussp activities. While the commissar lead he was in the background taking notes. Now hes more of a station admin/attendant making sure the lights are on while staying out of the spotlight. Though sometimes i do stc when ace isnt around, especially in the early days of us being a company
Was told to stop talking in lore so now I come here
USSP Privateer gaming
Union of Soviet Socialist Pirates

Id say comparing it to station side servers, if the defacto "leader" is captain and nova cygni is centcom Luka is like a covert ntr
The Poslanik observes 🥰
I see most people wearing USSP Officer attire acting like 14 year olds, it’s hard to feel like anyone’s really in charge. More just a collection of people acting towards a common goal for the collective.
Less getting/giving orders and more suggesting and requesting.
The only one that truly has any real authority is who ever is on the gunnery console during the round.
Everyone fears the man that can reduce most ships to several pieces of wreckage in under a few seconds.
I mean, that last line was pretty much why I enjoy USSP, the common goal is basically ensuring our own survival at this point, the collective is a real mixed bag of people that make up the company.
USSP as a faction was kinda aimless, which was the appeal to me back then. Beyond prepping for port strike and turning Camelot/Baikal into a fortress, we were largely passive in the war, which meant we had time to do other things.
Wanna yap at civvies and respond to sector threats? Sure
Wanna research or run chems and medical? Go ahead
Wanna sit on overwatch for hours waiting for the moment to glass something? Why not
Wanna go patrolling and frag the TSF? Absolutely
As a company, that still seems to be the case
If anything, the fact we don't have to prep for the faction war opens up more freedom to do stuff
USSP is fun because it’s just a bit of everything. Makes playing it more enjoyable because it’s more tailored to the individual experience. Works best if everyone works together as a collective. But it also works really well if everyone just peaces out and does their own thing. As most of the time they all eventually reconvene to unify as some funny hodgepodge of people pissed off enough to strike at the bigger factions.
Me going around as Hans and stealing a ton of stuff from others is bad, but it also pays to have a Drakon with an ultra gunnery console, an extra 3 layers of plastitanium, a Titan shield and enough 90mm’s and 57mm’s to make a Flashpoint blush.
Call him a Pirate if you want, but he will glass anything that fucks with Camelot/USSP
This was most of my faction rounds, most of the time, you could just say on Comms, I'm going to go do xyz Commissars and Serzhants would generally be cool with it as long as you stay active on Comms.
There would come a point, where you would be ordered back, the Commissar would slap the side of a Ledokol, basically saying This bad boy can fit so much PLOT in it
A fleet would form, shenanigans would ensue. Would we win? Sometimes. Was it fun? Always.
Hell yeah
I’ve been spending rounds lately getting the Hammer operational, funny af when it shows up at the station and people freak out about it
You need 8 SUPER Packmans and 1 Peregrine Engine to get the damn thing to full operational status but
God damn, it was worth it. Loved FTLing into the middle of ADS fights and they’d have to fuck off due to the absolute armament I slapped on it
Gosh, I need to clock another shift as STC
That was amazing
Besides, with Camelot seeing so much fighting these days, it would be good practice!
Good STC tip for Camelot, remember: Too many guns is never too many guns, the gunnery server can always handle more. Even if you gotta slap some new lattice on the station, we could quadruple the cannons and still have room for more. All hail the station gunnery server, the main reason I work stc lmfao
I understand my mission
You will also probably do friendly fire a little (a lot)
Accidents happen
Sacrifices must be made for the greater good
to paraphrase the Maxims for highly effective mercenaries
STC and friendly fire should be easier to tell apart
Station safety takes priority over docked or incoming ships, if a possible Chim or silent Asakim ship be trying to dock, I just hit select all and let God figure out if they were a threat or not.
There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'I need to reload
I forgot how many more of those golden maxims I've forgotten
Can’t forget the “Fuck you all and your ships, I gave you all a warning that if Chimera’s showed up I would slag the fuck out of it regardless of what ships get hit.”
I say it nicer than that, but yes, correct
Hans has been cloned to many times to still have a filter
Mf will tell you that you deserved to have been swallowed
I will still sometimes go Rrrr! over shortband to fuck with everyone
Even if it means I get shot out of the sky
I need to come back here and play a few USSP rounds
I’ve been mostly playing on Goob, getting a little bored
Yippeeee!!!! Tunguska replacemnt merged
Show the class it’s greatness
i would but uhh the map renderer hates me and im scared of it
?!?!?!?!?!!!
WHAT
WHAT REPLACEMENT

TSF glassed the Jupiter and I bought the wreckage
Mimi Bingle and I spent the rest of the shift fixing it up, docked it at Camelot, then tried to dock it at MD
I got to pilot the fucking Jupe as USSP

Hyped to test it out, I might boot up local host later and give a Flyssa or Wyvern a few broadsides
Hopefully you'll join the pink gang soon (Yell at Avalon/Fluffen if someone forgets to give the role when the Changelog goes up)
Indeed looks great
I feel like I've been the official-unofficial newbie wrangler lately
the uchitelnitsa, as it were
What is thi remapped drakon?
yuh
Based rework, might still be able to modify this during a round to make it a worthwhile broadsider
drakon needs to be replaced
why?
ship that was requested to be changed by original creator
cause with this remap my biggest gripe is the new engineering tbh
the fact that it doesnt really exist
Dont wanna be that guy who does jack shit and tells people what to change, so take my points lightly ofc
But maybe add a wall to the AME, so its entirely in its own compartment with only the console showing, than make that small room next to it engineering?
Gun rack to armour rather than by that door
and access to the right docking port without going through engineering would be nice
The new thruster layout is great though
As I said, my personal preference
no yeah those are good points
i was already intending to move those gyroscopes and suit lockers, just wanted to get something down so i could see how it felt flying
Suit lockers can stay imo
Since those are presumably military suits for the crew- stand to reason for them to be in the armoury next to the main crew compartment
i will now be moving the ame about till i can get a larger central room
what do you think?
Its a shitty paint copypast i know, but it gets the idea across
the smaller main room is offset with the new, bigger side rooms
I am a big fan of the walled AME version- they in universe explode so it would be reasonable to want one shielded from the rest of the ship as much as possible
i know
hm
how do AME explosions work?
remove all in tiles or do walls offer some resistance, as with the conventional explosives?
from what im seeing youd need about 3-4 layers of plastitanium to stop an AME explo
right side is about 2 ish layers of plastita
so basically if AME goes kaboom, shuttle console and all of your power is going with it
But does it kill the pilot?
Cause the ship is dead in the water without AME anyways, point is to keep the pilot alive for the recovery
it will kill pilot yes
plastitanium is somewhere between 2-3x stronger than reinforced walls
so youd need 6 ish layers
Damn
the simple trick is never have your ame exploded
That is a good ship design mindset hah
the idea is to let the pilot survive
since its easier to get a new ship than train a new pilot
not enough?
youd maybe survive with bombsuit
damn
not set on decals
decided to keep the glass barrier for AME, i love extra space
i am also unsure on whether or not to have it keep the CTLA-160 or not
With discord switching to "teen by default" ID verification I'm switching to Matrix
Just have some ideas for the interior
- as memey as the toilet is, I'd probably nuke it in favour of one of those bed rolls, go for a crew quarters like the Pluto, maybe include a bottle of vodka as a sleep aid, move the sink to the kitchen
- I'm not sure if it's in the fridge, but USSP Naval Doctrine mandates each vessel comes with a potato ration
- I think the gas can vend thingy could be nuked, replace it with more wall or make it symmetrical with the other dock (more floor space)
- I'm not sure how much thrust the big thrusters give, but I'd think about replacing the 6 rear thrusters with 2 big ones, might need to extend the rear of the ship slightly, try and keep the same amount of grille layers
Otherwise, I like it, it's a good replacement for another fan favourite
...After writing this, I just realised there's bedrolls included that you lay out as you need
There is indeed a singular raw potato in the freezer
Obligatory bottle of vodka near the co driver(?) seat
I need to change those docking areas anyhow, i dont like how the shape of them turned out tbh
Ill have a look at the pluto the domestic crew area feels empty
Pluto is literally just a bed roll in the engine room, I was thinking that because the atmos tanks are in the bathroom in the current design
I was thinking along the lines that crew comfort is sort of an afterthought in a military design (A real world example would be the T34, great design for fighting and mass production, but notoriously awful to be in)
How could I miss the fly better booze in the cockpit
i love casually slipping in some good publicity when people start shitting on TSF and PDV, the propaganda writes itself
we had like 2 soldiers and BOTH were helping with the chimera, meanwhile tsf and pdv were just fighting and occasionally harassing civs and DoC (no idea what they did🤷♂️ )
GLORY!!
USSP has been falling off lately, not very many gamers spreading the Soviet propaganda these days.
Pretty sure Ace, our only STC main, has quit.
i saw ace earlier today
ive been pretty burnt out lately and been enjoying playing borg
Ye, he messaged me and told me he was done and left the server.
ah, shame
i had to save DoC because nobody else was
i had to fix Chimera as a Spasaka because TSF weren't helping
i am still pissed about that round because PDV kept spawning and trying to raid Halcy instead of listening to me saying "help with Chimera, they took MD and CC"
that round was horrible
Real
Does anyone else feel like this servers going down a "strange path"? Like I've been playing on it since the PDV were rogues and i can't help but feel like shits gotten more bleak for lack of a better word i guess. Like old mono felt like "the world is shit, but theres a glimmer of hope" to "man i really want to kill people, bathe in their blood and do the most unspeakable things to their decapitated head. Hope is DEAD, GOD IS DEEEEAAAAD!!!1!!1!". Like the more i hear the words "hugbox" and "larp" the less i like this server. When did we all suddenly enter a fucking dick measuring competition to see who can be the biggest murder hoboing piece of shit, what the fuck does "larp" even mean in the context of playing a god damn ROLE PLAYING GAME, i joke about spreading propaganda but this shit isnt even propaganda anymore, we legit ARE the only ones that care about civs, the god damn remnants of a bygone era where "public relations" were actually a thing. Anyway sorry for the rant its just.... FUCK man... i miss old mono
100%.
agreed
I am hesistant to return
because all of my old friends have left
and the server just feels... weird
so much has changed
I don't even recognize the damned place anymore.
for example
Where the FUCK is my Sabine?!
the NORMAL civvie Sabine!?
what the fuck are drones?
what is a PDV?
Why can't ship guns shoot inside stations anymore?!
Why are half of the "USSP" (I don't consider them my comrades) turning to piracy?
i will say ive never seen any faction besides USSP care about civs anyway, so not much has changed there
im pretty fine where the server is changing to
just needs more time
i think sabine got killed due to needing to change out roster of ships
Sabine is better
Fair, but i swear it was never like... THIS bad
Also doesnt help that one of the admins (not naming names, you and everyone here knows who you are) blatantly hates us and will stop at nothing until we are just nothing more than a band of mercenaries "larping" as USSP because apparently we dont even deserve the dignity of actually being USSP. This will be the only time i acknowledge this individual because i dont like poinless bickering and frankly from what ive seen its simply not worth my time.
Because thats apparently what we're "supposed" to be now to be more in line with the new (to quote myself here) "man i really want to kill people, bathe in their blood and do the most unspeakable things to their decapitated head. Hope is DEAD, GOD IS DEEEEAAAAD!!!1!!1!" vibe of the server
Bleak grimdark, that's what I'd describe it as, ya, thats the current vibe
Yea, that's not good for USSP. It was the last bastion of civilization and it's why USSP not being a proper faction is maybe the best thing for it.
Because factions don't RP it's just TDM. USSP being seperate from that allows it to focus on the RP of things.
True
Yeah, we all know who that is.. don’t know why the server staff are so against players having fun. Combat is fun as hell. I enjoy RP as well, you’d think most would on an advertised MRP server. But right now the mindset seems very much set for the TSF to continue being harping pricks about how great they are while nuking civilians and being an overall pain to deal with in any capacity. And the PDV being at least semi-competent but having another identity crisis while still maintaining the goofy Muslim Jihadist vibes. USSP is a nice middle ground because it allows for you to kind of just do your own thing and still can get aid at just about any time through calling on the radio.
USSP is funny because it’s a freedom role, and it fits more in line with how the lores written anyhow. Every citizen can/is apart of the military, but each id their own individual and can pick and choose what they want to do based off their own preferences and experiences, so long as it benefits the whole collective and not just fills your own boots.
Fuck, frankly if they want to make the server more Grimdark, I’ll start playing a Russian that has the Foreigner perk (can’t speak common) and will proceed to glass any ship not Civilian or USSP affiliated. Only gotta give you ten seconds after I start yelling at you over shortband before I can begin firing.

USSP as a whole should start doing the same, we’re basically on course to become the System Privateers and Bounty Hunters. May as well start making a more hardline, aggressive stance.
Honestly, that wouldn't even be too OOC for us, we'd still have our pro civ stance but we'd just be hyper aggressive against other military/merc groups. I dont hate that idea. Considering most of the servers "problem children" (imo at least) tend to play tsf or pirate it would probably be the LEAST fun for them when they cant even get close to camelot without getting yelled at and glassed
Hell we could even act as a sort of "counter thieving/pirate" force, killing pirates, taking their things and redistributing it to civs
Robin hood type shit
That's what I've always played Hans as, roll up to civilians making sure they're safe, be super aggressive and try to goad other militaries to fire on me first so I have justification to slag a mfer.
(Wall of text alert) Yknow, I've been ghosting around and thinking, if i had complete control over the direction of this server, what would MY "ideal monolith" look like, ppl always talk about how things suck but never how they could be better so, how would I make it better? Well first thing, I'd completely nuke the faction system entirely, lets be honest no matter how much the maints admins SAY its different TSF and PDV are just reskined NFSD and pirates and thus share the sort of isolated feeling between faction and non-faction, second, id HEAVILY buf (or completely rework) the company system, ive said this before but the longer we've been a company the more i feel it was for the best, if we make it so picking a company gives you access to comms, door access and perhaps even spawns (more on that in a bit). There could be a system where companies could have unlockable ranks like factions that give you more loadout items almost like a prestige system (think uniforms, medals, the already existing special guns tab and stuff) id be mostly be cosmetic and in my personal and maybe controversial opinion NOT limited to companies (ie once unlocked you can wear it regardless of current company) mainly because, and im no coder, i can already see it being a nightmare to code. And finally (of what i thought of atm) this ones a hot take, remove faction/company STATIONS and instead, (this would need contributors) company FLAGSHIPS, giant, fully flyable, maybe ftl capable flagships, companies can move their POIs wherever they want, if 2 companies want to work together they can move their ships close.
The third one mainly comes from the fact that i REALLY like PDVs jupiter ship as a concept
Halcyon wouldn't need to change much, as a matter of fact there are already spots where thrusters would be, youd just have to mabe change some things to add the new bigger thrusters
Im thinking for us it'd be a massive military cargo carrier retrofitted to be more civ welcoming
Wish that monolith sandbox server was still around
Anyways TL:DR 1: obvious frontier faction system👎 2: better company system to replace it👍 3: unhinged hopium fueled ideas guy pitch
Helios im pretty sure is supposed to be a ship too (or at least ship adjacent) it certainly looks like one, though no pre-existing thruster spots, so it'd probably need a few adjustments
Hell its not even too much bigger then the jupiter
absolutely
Anyone who is both USSP and a pirate has my strong and immediate disdain
Always happy to protect anyone that asks, including pirates, but damn you do not gotta be out here slanderin' our good name like that
Privateer = / = Pirate
Ain’t the same, even though it is.
Its sort of an "all x is y but not all y is x"
Legal piracy, under the flag of a nation.
Robin Hooding is a good way to put it
Will absolutely lay waste to other companies (who don’t align with USSP) and military groups. But will also break my back for the civilians of the sector.
Like, all pirates are privateers but not all privateers are pirates
like technically speaking most of our fleet are by definition privateers (depending on what specific lore you base from most ships are repurposed civ ships and vice versa)
technically paradise's wiki doesn't say anything about volunteers/conscripts using their own SHIPS, but is does say they use their own guns so, not too unreasonable to assume if they got a ship they'd use it
also we aint paradise, we can change it up
Easy Access to mil ships
disgusting.
we're different.
yes
the lore is only comparative, not appliable
This last shift made me so happy
Even though we fed ourselves to a woodchipper
USSP comms was the busiest I've ever seen and we went to war for the first time since I got here
Was it another diplomatic incident with the TSF?
USSP players, regardless of what kind they are, will always unite against some kind of threat and fragging the TSF usually ranks as the most peak
Please don't call it that, we're not state sanctioned pirates, when i said "counter piracy" i meant we go after people who have actively committed piracy (and usually only against civs, if they're robbing militaries its more forgivable because, yknow, revolting against authoritarian militaries and imbalanced power dynamics is literally how the USSP started, and I'd say we should DEFEND those people)
If "soviet pirate" is more your speed, paycheck bratva is right over there
Im already sick and tired of people saying USSP are "just mercs and criminals larping"
considering the turn the USSP has taken and being in a less well funded state, piracy becoming more of an option is pretty in fine by me
people need money and desperate people will be taking more drastic measures
oops baycheck bratva is having a larger influence on the remaining USSP
Nah nah, at this point the USSP has to embrace the Privateer way of life. We’re a Soviet-styled faction cut off from all the benefits that the wider USSP would have. We can’t get out of the system but new stuff can come in predicament. Those who could not get out of the system be it through desertion, left behind, or stranded while their comrades escaped or died like the Hammer of The Union. We’re becoming exactly what would become of the remnants of a military organization that suddenly lost all its authority and oversight but still has a lot of the equipment from the military. They become Mercenaries, Pirates, Privateers or other forms of rogue. Paycheck Bratva is a drug cartel type organization, they’re slippery fuckers and shady dealers. USSP are still very much like a hammer and sickle in their combat approach. We protect the civilians of the sector but will fly around and glass rival groups like Bratva, Hive, TSF, Midnight and a few others (only if they’re flying military vessels). Hell, last night we had 3-5 ships attack Halcyon by rallying the USSP into a murder frenzy. We lost horribly but everyone had such a great time they spawned in and went for round two. The factions gotta change from “we don’t do anything except mine and exped with the occasional shitter doing things”
Last night I feel like a good fair few people woke up to the possibility that even though the USSP aren’t the central figures, we can still have big impacts in rounds.
though i do have a question for any ussp aligned privateers/pirates, what kind of vessels do you prefer using?
Depends on intent. Mudskipper is a pretty good fast ship with a decent arsenal of 4 90mm’s and 4 of the Dravok(?) Minigun things. Makes it a great harasser ship.
Drakon is what I tend to use when my intent is to slag ships. Has 2 220mm cannons, if you remove 4 walls on each side then you turn the Drakon into a great broadsider ship and 4(?) 57mm’s. Medium speed, but upgrading thrusters always helps.
Burans is my new favourite ship to use, Capital Frigate, has 6 220mm cannons, 3 on each side and 6(?) 57mm cannons. Slow, has thick armor, works as a good forward operating base. Way better than the Ledokol. Bring this expensive death ray if you plan on overwhelming firepower.
I'm usually just a radnik but if I'm doing warfare (against drones or otherwise) I prefer the Drakon.
I need to photoshop together USSP propaganda, especially in light of the active attack on TSF the other day. I'm still a hardliner on a USSP-PDV "save you for last" style treaty

I appreciate you so much
<3
for being a radnik :>
as for combat ships
I am a wildcard.
I prefer the Akula the most.
Ey, a fellow Akula enjoyer
Love that tiny thing
I have never bought a combat ship for express fighting purposes in my life
There was this one time me and 2 other people (I think Nick was one of them) bought a large combat vessel to go on a sector-wide manhunt for someone who made Chimera serum
It was insanely fun
God I wish we were a faction again
Anyone up for doing something this weekend, I’m in a very communist mood rn
All of my free time goes into either the ussp or playing just enough pdv to unlock the anaconda as a starting gun (so I can mine for the USSP)
Communist Weekends sounds like a funny time
Anytime I play it’s also for the USSP
Next time I play imma try to make another Fleet like I did last weekend
Maybe have more than 1 Buran

Brothers and Sisters of Our Most Glorious Union.
This weekend, I don’t know what day or what time (likely after 8PM EST), I shall pull together a USSP/Affiliated Fleet with the intent on holding most/all POI’s and destroy one or both of the Faction Flagships. We might not be a faction, but by the Grace of Ratvar, we shall heavily influence the round as a company.
@pulsar wagon Can you do the USSP a great service, comrade? Can you put the USSP Banner/flag into the crafting menu so I can begin claiming shit in our name?
I forgot banners are a thing
Unlikely to be merged before the get together, but I'll see what I can do
Should be easy to copy an existing one... I'll take a look soon
That’s fine if it isn’t in before (literally) this weekend, merging takes time, just for future memery.
Bless 🙏
If you can’t find the USSP banner sprite, just grab the Communist poster sprite, copy the hammer/sickle and paste it over the red banner. Ensure the colors match up and it should be quality enough for implement.
Oh, spriting
Yeah I'll look into it anyways, spriting or no, like you say, I can Goida together existing sprites

We will frag.
It is now canon that Ratvar is the predominant deity in the USSP
@balmy meteor Rejoice, the predominant deity of the USSP is now Ratvar.
i feel like this has been mentioned before and that ratvar IS supposedly cannon in monolith still
Hes canon until the brass chunks cease to be a thing, can find his plushies on them
either way, im all for it
Praise be upon our Lord in Brass, he who dreams in Reebe
Me and Zimmer have been praises our glorious god of technology zealously
Glory be.
i would very much love if ratvar was included in the official lore of the ussp as its religious deity
looks official enough to me
GLORY TO THE CLOCKWORK UNION! TICK! TOCK! TICK! TOCK!.... Anyway back to work, that is neat though. Ill be treating it as canon at least, mwaha
Hey can I get an export of the Ace Zimmer sprite for a propaganda poster?
I play on steamdeck, can screenshot and share that way but no way to properly export.
I mean just slap a mowhawk/afro/cia haircut and goatee on a male sprite and set the color to something on the rainbow and itll be accurate to a few of his iterations at least tho
Sapper modsuit, ussp jumpsuit, cowboy boots, electrical gloves, engineering goggles, sidearms
You're the USSPs strongest soldier to be playing ss14 on a fucking steam deck
ty
https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/HQyogpJqirSMhTxrg4pW0IQAJDTLRrj-DDSO8HOQHJc/https/www.allworldwars.com/image/011/Poster113.jpg?format=webp&width=800&height=546 We're doing something based off this to commemorate your time as STC
Lmfao the tagline is just "Where the did everybody go? Night shifts suck!"
Lmao
Tagline was gonna be something to the effect of "Hail before approaching Camelot! Our home is not your dumping ground!"
But nah thats pretty neat, cool to hear
Really lean into the verbiage of soviet posters
That works lmao, basically a refined: "Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Colossus sector, Camelot stc is now online. Be sure to hail and remember: A clean station is a happy station, use the disposals or Ill shoot to kill" so that works pretty well, I dig it.
I have to ask how often friendly fire happened because friendlies in mil ships didn't hail
because that happened to me this shift
as in I'm the idiot that shot them
What makes it worse is I know the guy I shot lmao
I mean Ace told Emeric a few times "Some of those friendly fire accidents were more a case of me being bored" so youre fine, ngl youre already doing a better job. Ace is a fun character but also like, he probably shouldnt be allowed control of ungodly firepower. Ngl I didnt keep track. Generally one or two a round, depending on chimera/pirate activity and how far into the round it was.
It was pirates that had me on edge
Ngl that feeling is why I kept working the job so long. Strap extra cannons to Camelot and watch it cut bigger ships in half. Won't lie, there were some ships where when they'd hail and Ace would be like "God damn it- Clear to dock."
The station cannons are fun, don't be afraid to use them. Maybe don't use them as liberally as I did, but remember: Watching a ship get atomized is a very pleasant experience
Real lmao
I fill the boredom of STC with station bounties and talking mad shit on comms
Helps you say sane. Good strategy is to do that, and then go deathly silent. Let a few USSP/Known friendly ships dock and ignore their hails, let the sector think SSD has claimed you....
Meanwhile keep a list of reported pirate ships on your pda and keep all guns selected.
No better feeling as STC than
"So & So is a pirate vessel"
"Glassed."
The moment they try to dock and sell their stolen wares or re-arm themselves.
I got a taste of that when the Rat took your ship
That was funny as fuck
Good stc work
Starzimmer no longer qualified as a ship after that
For a while anyway
@balmy meteor This look right?
Beard should be blue, he needs his funny cult cloak.

Beard should be the same shade as the hair but otherwise ye
Or can make the hair the same shade as the beard. Either or.
Clone degeneration, his liver can't handle alcohol anymore and his hair comes out random colors, eventually more negative traits until the character is a nugget in a chair
Realll
I had a lancer character like that
Jhonny Litletimmmy (sic), an illegally created clone mass produced for combat who was fated to die every time he was sent on a mission
Eventually instead of waking up in his Everest he wakes up in a Manticore that Castigates against his will
The goal was for the GM to play him as a comedy relief NPC and it gets revealed he's been my actual character this whole time
Very nice! Ive always enjoyed characters with the lifespan of immortals, but with none of the perks, all of the drawbacks.
Honestly Ace is basically just my eternia (other byond game) character recreated for Ss14.
Greg Fantabulous, a Zombie that died (again) serving his lord. Lore dictacted if a Zombie dies they stay dead forever, soul remnants fade. Then @golden veldt and I got really high and posted a joke application: *They refused to leave;*defying lore Greg and his brother Dave would return in the forms they loved most... Fashion and weed (sentient suit, sentient marijuana plant golem).
In the sequel games Id bring Greg back once per sequel, his lack of lore preventing him from passing on after 3rd death. Now he wakes up at level 0 in the body of a random infant he accidentally steals the body of, and has to re-level and age normally back to usefulness. Dave Kushman planted himself in an island, became Davetopia, and ascended to Godhood between games.
Ace is basically just low effort, less in-game backstory Greg. NT worker who volunteered for an early cryoclone bluespace experiment, didnt read the fine print, and is still stuck in a clone loop years after his bosses died.
Did not expect him to take over as Camelot STC as long as he did, but USSP is a fun company to be a part of.
@golden veldt I guess that makes Hans the future Dave
Yes
Dave Kushman is crazy work I love it
Dear USSP mains, lets collectively agree to kill nerds who try to use camelot for piratery.
And contest multifab+server being stolen roundstart.
kill
USSP are Pirates 
Grok, delete this message
Roundstart camelot fighting between pirates and non pirates
The Book Burnings may not begin on this day.
Grok, give me a gibchem recipe that will fit in a cryostasis beaker
Grok does not have the list of chemicals available for this server.
Grok, assume vanilla chemicals
Generating. . .
Gib Recipe (120u Total)
Primary Kill Agents:
Lexorin 30u
Stops oxygen processing.
Massive airloss damage.
Plasma (liquid) 25u
Heavy toxin damage ticks.
Extremely hard to counter quickly.
Tritium 20u
Radiation stacking damage.
Damage Amplifiers
Hyperzine 20u
Speeds metabolism.
Forces reagents to metabolize aggressively = damage stacks faster.
Impedrezene 10u
Brain impairment.
Slows response and self-rescue.
Delivery / Chaos Component
Nitrous Oxide 15u
Immediate unconsciousness.
Prevents escape or treatment.
Total:
30 + 25 + 20 + 20 + 10 + 15 = 120u
Perfect Cryostasis Beaker fill.
who up communing they ism
Y'all needa get some moneys damn
Comrade, I despise currency, however in order to live in this rough and tumble sector which does not support our way of life. We must adapt.
How else are we to order a fleet of Burans?
feir enouf
I will amongus expell you
through an airlock
The truth hurts
If I hear
that you've harassed civvies or neutral mercs
The pits of hell and 109 years of AM's torture chambers will be child's play in comparison of the retribution coming
beyond that
proceed.
Civilians are fine, Mercs who aren’t affiliated/allied are free game.
Unaffiliated mercs are civs.
they're just civs with a gun permit.
just like our radniks have rights to bear arms
so do other civs in our eyes.
Unaffiliated Mercs are Company bois
(and you need to be a merc to be able to buy a gun on mono)
(Oh good they can fight back)
incorrect, unaffiliated mercs are just civs with guns. the denomination "merc" is wrong for them to begin with

Mercs are meant to fight in expeditions
I guess im glassing civilians, life goes on
I guess I'm glassing you.

@tulip cloak @carmine crown @fossil arrow @violet cloak Gentlemen, please erase this creature
Glory to the USSP.
The times have changed, old man, the USSP only exists in name, the ideology has shifted. Most USSP play the Privateer game now, if you aren’t with us, you’re against us.
ok no yeah it's on sight.
Mercenaries aren’t Civilians, Mercenaries are Mercenaries. They pick up their guns for their companies, I reclaim it and give it to the USSP.
in trying times we must prioritise ourselves
bro rn
Here I fixed this for you
thanks for the self portrait :D
either way I think you fail to understand the point of mercs as a thing.
what if i made one of the USSP ships into a dedicated privateer vessel used to disable victims...
I think you haven’t been playing the game and are gonna try to lecture me on how the game should be played 
Mercs with company tags are not the same as mercs without company tags
firstly
and secondly
not all companies are hostile to us
yet
normal mercs are exped crews and the occasional security crew for a ship/a station/for MD
or a pirate crew which is free game.
and their engagement rules still forbid them from no escalling.
no escalling sure, still liable for plundering
And you're liable of being erased :D
also you guys feel free to ask me for the discord invite, it's still up and running just as much as before
The USSP had harsher times than this.
The USSP found in the Monolith Sector are the abandoned comrades of the pullout. Left and forgotten, that alone would be enough to push most to desert entirely. After being reduced to being “larpers”, they opted to push back and have been actively lanching attacks against both TSF and PDV with decent success. The USSP is in good standings with most companies, MD and CC to the point where we’ve actively made alliances that have stretched out weeks. But regardless of all that, only things that remain are the Union Spirit and the determination not to be snuffed out. What they once were isn’t really capable of existing without the support of the Union in the sector. Instead they look to themselves, becoming more akin to Privateers with each passing day, legal pirates, essentially.
Right.
And that's fine
You may not like it, but this is what has been happening. USSP have and will raid other company ships, so long as it has the Military tag we determine it as free game, mercenary or not.
but you can't be plundering any and all mercs.
because chances are they're affiliated with MD, or are indipendent/civilian working for CC to do expeditions, or are just a station security force / doing oddjobs and need to be armed to survive
My whole point wasn't about company tag ships, it was about mercs in general
I think there was a miscommunication.
Like
I wasn't talking about company ships
Unaffiliated mercs are... unaffiliated.
it's in the name.
not a part of a company and not working for PDV/TSF
I bet my left testicle you don’t take Nova Cygni as a language, don’t grab a TACCOMM encryption key, and couldn’t care less about anything other USSPs are trying to do
I play Hans, and actively lead the USSP most rounds unless I’m looking to get my money back.
Lead them to do piracy and get people to hate us?
“We have to privateer” my ass
Go mine or fight the big factions instead of picking on civs
I never once said I pick on civilians.
the internal schism of beliefs is so peak
It’s pretty funny
Because in game it’s very much “yeah fuck it lets ball” with no pushbacks 
You said you do piracy???????
But no, I’ve encouraged the slagging of hostile Merc Companies primarily. Civilians are protected and given aid whenever I can. I said do Privateering. Legal piracy. Pick on the TSF, PDV or companies that don’t ally.
I don’t fight expedition ships or civilian vessels
But if you’re a military vessel of a non-allied group imma take your shit and give it to my guys
Which is why I said there must've been a miscommunication
because clearly you haven't listened to what I asked/said
neutral mercs.
AKA.
Fucking exp ships.
and mercs that aren't flying company flags on their ships
(it was on your end. I tried to confirm 3 times that I'm talking about neutral mercs that have nothing to do with companies or factions.)
(and you kept saying mercs are free game ignoring the "neutral" part)
but exp ships are the juiciest...
....
ALEXEI
GET THE CANNON.
the 520 mm cannon.

woah woah buddy this is a 220mm household
Oh that’s a funny thing, the Buran Capital frigate fucks pretty hard.
Laughs in 6 220mm’s
It’s slow but god damn will it turn most ships to Swiss cheese
sounds like MD needs one :D
I loved doing that for Chimera shifts
then loot it later whilst wearing a mask...
Good times
A tunguska with a full med, chem and botany bays in the cargo bay
and its butt reinforced to all hell
against ramming
alas the tung got taken out back and shot
The Buran replaced it, was a Wizden ship so they had to replace it
starch ship
wizden catching strays as usual
It's good he's gone
bruh
the USSP lore is all ✨ handwritten with passion and love ✨
by yours truly <3
except the
we have lore?
We have lore?
the company flavor text is ugh.
i thought we were all just deluding ourselves
wait is this the background lore of the ussp and not the current sector lore
I’m kidding, I know the lore well enough for a German Exchange Hire
It’s the old lore, yes
it's the Background * lore
it's not outdated, just not pertaining the sector itself
The USSP back in their territory are way different than the dregs left behind in Monolith
well
yeah
i hunger for in sector lore
bet
on it.
also where the hell is the #lore channel
there used to be a channel just called Lore.
@quick bay Get Nick in on the SUPER DUPER TOP SECRET PROJECT THAT WILL DOOM THE SERVER TO GREATNESS, please.
Yes, comrade?
Right away, comrade
I love you comrade ^^
More funny USSP developments
Dawww, you’re making me blush, comrade
Hell yeah
who/what is Ratvar?
Tech God of Progress, The Brass King
My god says your god is illegitimate 
@cinder rapids Ya its been like this since around december i think, grok and bot have basically been trying to turn us into bootleg russian pdv who actively rulebrake by disregarding escalation by pretending to be a faction
Well. I say F that
It doesn't make much sense anyway. You would think the USSP would hunker up and try to survive instead of painting a red target over themselves.
especially if it affects the whole of the faction
I kinda understand why admins dont like us, it literally says in the description we aren't a faction and have to follow ROE and a bunch of us are like "nah i'll just frag anyway"
do you know which admins dont like us?
I defo want to have a talk.
Also piracy is a form of capitalism btw, all the same exploitation, just illegal and direct instead of relying on manipulation
I dont like naming names or thowing shade but they're in this group, thats all i'll say
One in particular, different colored name
That’s a blatant lie, but go off.
The one time I “broke” escalation was when I chose Foreigner as a trait (can’t use common), proceeded to yell at Midnighters for 30+ seconds before blasting their shit.
And then they malded about it.
if a party doesn't clearly understand what you're up to
you're breaking escalation
Foreigner and Mute both negate the ability to properly escalate in this case. Screaming in all caps and yelling at someone for 30+ seconds should probably give you the indication you’re about to be fired on. Not to mention the 2 times I fired near the ship but didn’t hit it. If anything I proved why those traits shouldn’t exist at all.
And that people will bitch and moan about their own short comings.
ya that was pretty much the consensus in general
also doesn't foreigner give you a translator?
If it does, it didn’t the one time I tried to use it.

(It probably spawned in the massive pile of garbage in the Camelot spawn areas)
it.. does not.
it just gives the indication someone is riled up / panicking
also
many languages have no distinction between caps and no caps.
you're just malding
you were in the wrong lmfao
My brother when a Capital Ship flies straight up to you and the pilot begins screaming at you in all caps, and you don’t get the hint to vacate, i don’t know what will.
.....please say sike
No sike to be had, just a Russian man in a capital ship screaming in his not so native language 
also i keep trying to tell them that "USSP that became pirates because no money and abandonment" is LITTERALLY paycheck bratva, but they obviously want the title, drip and easy ship access so their doing all this instead
Schisms be like 
"schism"
looks inside
two new players wanting to larp as russian pirates in the non-russian-pirate group
while a russian pirate group already exists

You see what you’ve allowed yourself to see. The inside of this discord, and nothing else. Play the game, you’ll see that the two players is actually just the majority.
it really aint that hard gang.
despite the fact that EVERYTHING i mentioned besides title is still available to them
ah so PB also has access to USSP gear!
good, as it should be
literally
if you want to be a pirate
go make a pirate gang

But I think this is where we’ll be flying until you get back and tangle control.
bet.
I look forward to it.
Maybe the new lore team will revert the changes made to the existing lore.. 
oh and fake-faction larping, thats another reason they're doing it
You done just making random shit up?
Aid the faction you complain about and maybe it wouldn’t be in the Privateering business.
this you?
"aid the faction you complain about"
we're not complaining about ourselves, we're complaining about you.
I don’t know what this is supposed to represent other than me taking steps in pulling the faction out of the mud.
"out of the mud"
looks inside
"at the admin chopping block"
"pulling the FACTION out of the mud" my point made
I don’t see a point made other than you not having one. Faction-Company, can you even call the USSP a true Company?
I don’t understand people like you, genuinely.
oh I don't give a flying fuck about your ass
Has been accomplishing great feats inside the game
Has made mistakes along the way absolutely
Trying to bring life to a COMPANY (since you’re a stickler)
Is upset that I’m actually getting players to return to the USSP
I'm talking about them removing the company because of people like you larping as a faction
? Removing the company because I’m larping a faction?
yes.
What does that even mean
You don’t even know my behavior man, you don’t even play.
Neverplayer with opinions, who woulda thought
This behavior,
is grounds for company removal.
ragebait used to be believable
Fuck, you’re all braindead.
Helps civilians
Attacks other Mercenary groups who use military ships
AH YES
THATS GOOD TO REMOVE THE COMPANY
says the person desperately dying on the "i want to make the communists into capitalist pirates instead of joining the already exsisting ex-communist pirate group" hill

The game runs off of currency man, you can’t get around that.
You can’t buy a ship without money
yes.
here, it is
not because I said so
It’s not about the capitalist aspect, it’s just the only fucking way to be able to get ships
because Admins said so.
to others before you.
that already left.
because they weren't allowed to do what you're doing.
right now.
Christ, if playing a Company the way companies are meant to be played will get them removed then what’s the point of companies?
So, if it were up to you, you’d do fuck all and accomplish nothing, but be happy because shit stayed the same?
no
That’s not progress. Or anything. That’s stupid.
if it were up to me we'd keep doing what we do.
which is varied.
most times we're doing our thing collectively, helping people in need, and protect the place from world ending threats
sometimes we go into conflict with a faction RARELY Because it's supposed to be rare. we're a rogue element, sure, but not a FACTION.
bro glassing ships and attacking factions is not what companies typically do
and most important of all
we don't touch the civvies.
and companies, too, are classified as Civvies or Civvie+.
which is as I just said
flavor.
Most companies aren’t the soldiers left behind by a military organization.
the USSP is not a military organization

it's a country.
the tag "USSP" just means you're from the Union.
That flavor text is a change I asked for that never happened because whoeverthefuck forgot to change it from the stupid ass placeholder
(the text of the USSP company when selecting it. it's still wrong.)
i do agree with you there, im happy mono isnt as money focused as frontier, but ya ships do still cost money. HOWEVER i think if you want to do piracy just, dont do it in the USSPs name.
There's normal ways to get money. Like helping MD. Or just doing expeds.
or, and this might sounds crazy:
Just helping people.
People give money!! :000000000
Crazy !!!!!!!!!
also
literally skill issue.
I ONLY play Ironman.
like any self respecting USSP should.
Can really tell you haven’t played in awhile.
honestly if it were up to me and we were still a faction i'd probably make the ships cost recourses or something, like buying vouchers with an uplink or something
I literally made 675 k $ in one shift not even a week ago.
In ironman.
so uh
you can cut the ragebait

Voucher life would be preferable tbh
No one would like it though
i want to try ironman one day but i have no idea how it works, does it pull from your account or straight up give you cash? might be good since i main being camelots QM and dont really need bank accsess
it gives you 10k every spawn but no credit card access
I love it
it's the accurate USSP play.
we don't HAVE currency
that's the WHOLE POINT
WE DON'T USE FUCKIN CURRENCY
unless someone
gives it to us
I’d believe this, but you’re so unbearably out of touch with what’s transpiring in game it’s kind of goofy to have this conversation with you. I’m not mad either, I get why you’d be upset with all of this, you’re watching your lore get warped into something that wasn’t your intent. Unfortunately, that’s how life tends to work, you create something, move away from it, others will bastardize it if it isn’t actively upkept. If it wasn’t for the state of the server/the tossing out of basically all lore, this wouldn’t have been the case. Preferably, I’d like to play a proper USSP Soldat-esque character. But that possibility has sailed with each interaction in character driving the company (not even just me pushing) towards the darker aspects because that’s basically ALL THE SERVER IS NOW.
by their own will.
The whole server is just a fuckin RDM shithole and it was that way waaaayy before I got here.
Alright tell you what.
tomorrow
after I sleep
I'll get on. you come with me.
and the rest.
I'll show you how USSP used to play and generally plays.
what we do.
why we do it.
Fuckin GLORIOUS, direction, I love it.
...oh dear, all the Voiniks in a 5 kilometer radius just turned their head at my statement....
Big issue the USSP has rn is that there are no old timers left. The oldest players are me and Ace and we’re on like month 2 in the server.
No direction or course.
its kind of a tricky subject, like on one hand the whole money system in general kind of bad, the more money matters the worst rp gets imo, but i understand why it shouldn't be COMPLETELY useless, its imo one of the MANY flaws frontier has, just grind for 10 hours, rp and lose like 80% in 2, repeat
So true
guh, yeah, I left just because my internet completely died for 2-3 months in a row
and then I struggled catching up with everything besides just mono
It do be like that
for example:
I don’t know what this is but it looks like a clusterfuck lmfao
it's just my 40 planes, 160 torpedoes, 120 20mm boxes of ammunition, 4000 liters of fuel and 80 men I gathered in 1.5 hours and built all with my boys myself ! o7
Glory to Callahan
xDDD anyway
since the war has been going hard, I've had little time for else since the 9th of this month
not to mention people using exploits, if money dosent matter, exploits are useless
we've been fightin for 2 weeks now and it's been hard 
The servers in a really weird place rn in a lot of aspects
The power creep is kind of insane tbh
power creep?
id say money should exist, but it shouldn't MATTER. imo if it were me id make the most expensive ship like 5K or something
TSF / PDV ships are LEAGUES ahead of current ship designs. I get they’re the focus, but like, most ships would crumble over either sides smallest vessels due to the arsenal alone.
I mean, yeah, that's always been the case
the USSP has always had terrible, civilian+ equipment
that's why I actually quite welcome us becoming a Company.
us moving back towards being a faction will only make the admins kill it off fully
which I would rather hate.
Yes, as it should, but most TSF/PDV vessels are so much MORE than anything else available, most things can’t get near them or do enough damage unless you’re pulling out a Burans.
The disparity grows
Every larger
ehh I'd beg to differ
its like a weird mix of frontier and rmc with a little hullrot sprinkled in
I solo'd 2 razors and a nebula in an Akula
and won the fight
they are strong
but ehhh
there's always bigger fish.
Tbh it makes engagements more fun when you got a large fleet consisting of mostly civilian and exped ships. 
and there's totally space for that! just, maybe not all the time.
that gets admin feathers ruffled.
like it feels like the server is trying to be a focused game mode with a proper round structure (hour 4 portstrikes for example) while also being an open space sandbox
I loved when portstrikes were at hour 6 instead
4 hours to equip Camelot was a nightmare
To be fair every assault we’ve launched we’ve died horrible, very funny deaths. We accomplish little but it’s still good fun. Yesterday I was able to destroy 2 Hoplite(?) ships docked with Halcyon by overloading their reactors. 
muh terrorism. ((without escalation that also counts as failure of escal btw))
((that's the problem))
Worry not it was an active fleet engagement
o7
My ship was destroyed, I boarded
just laying it ther
Was funny
Had like 10 players ghosting me when I died
Got cheered on in the afterlife
Glory greatest
xD
civs
reeeeeaaaally hate factions
and factions dgaf about civs
that's where we come in
the people ™
anyway
I eep now
good night
Ok but, we refuse that goofy ass lore.
Commnd left, we stayed, we wait until they return, but for now we do our best.
want the disc invite btw comrade?
o7
Btw, merc fab being able to print USSP tech is real or not?
I read someone wanted to make it like that, but I have no idea
done
no clue tbh
didnt try
@pulsar wagon is mercfab being able to print USSP real yet?
this is the lore we have been given, and likely the lore we will be getting with the supposed camelot rework ive seen being made
camelot will no longer be only USSP
if the USSP want to keep their hold, theyre gonna need to fight for it
see that stinky U.I worker?
shoot him with a four gauge
do it.
also i feel like there are some very scewed beliefs on what ROE are in here
currently for robbing civs it is quite literally 10 seconds to say, you are being robbed and then you can rob em
if its a mil ship you can disable the mil ship
what role
Ok but, we refuse that goofy ass lore.
Command left, we stayed, we wait until they return, but for now we do our best.
incorrect. its the lore you made the fuck up
im working with whats currently happening in game
if you want that lore to be canon its recommended to write it up an PR it into the guidebook or somin
Bot , Hans already decided to be normal and see what's up.
You step on the USSP, the USSP will step on you.
work with the union
whar, no im all for the USSP piracy and the people trying to keep the USSP alive state
neither are wrong imo
your opinion is 
btw, who do you play.
atm? borg
I like seeing the fleets we've thrown together recently to combat to TSF, it always ends in ruin but is a good time. Should probably focus on the PDV at some point, ive only seen us gun it for the Halcyon, but overall, nice to see the USSP refusing to go silently into the night. Looking forward to the next engagement.
I mean we're only a company because we're not a faction, but from an ic standpoint.... We have no ceo, no specified output or input, just a bunch of random mercs working together on different things. A company requires structure and goals. We're a remnant alliance. Should def try to avoid piracy and messing with civs- Which yes, hypoctrical of me to say, as I was Hans' gunner on that Nova-Cygni-Only "hail or become shale" run, but eh, I told him oocly "No way this will reflect well on us or go over well" I enjoy glassing, just following orders.
But that one off round aside, targetting the Factions makes the most sense. My ic atm is that they are warring for control of the sector. We live in the sector and have been abandoned by our government, better to be fighting than let NT v2 or Sultan Syndies become our overlords.
Tldr We should def avoid piracy or mindlessly glassing, but Im all in favor of the USSP's recent habit of occasionally rallying and reminding the sector that they were also a faction at one point.
we're not a company
we're a minor faction
the denomination of company is there due game mechanics, not actual denomination
occasionally rallying that being said is fine
as long as we don't do it all the time
and I hate.
the denominator of "privateers" or "legal piracy"
we ain' pirates.
we're heroes of the people
I know we're not a company, thats what im saying, its a game mechanic so im not going to pretend its a thing ic and allow it to influence my guys actions
for sure! and I agree with that :D
Yeee
As current Poslanik I'll definitely be doing things to redirect our efforts away from looting and towards civilian interest
that being said.. I will also teach you to throw hands several leagues above you :>
o7
Glad staff agree it’s more fun to accomplish something than sit around all shift doing fuck all. 
Tip to Good USSP Privateering:
-Dont target crewed Civilian or Expedition Ships. Unless they are a known hostile company, then they’re prey. Treat Civilians with respect, Recruit Mercenaries and Spacers if at all possible or at least win their hearts and minds.
-Uncrewed/Derelict Civilian and Expedition Ships can be looted for their haul, so long as their captains/crew are (likely) dead or left it adrift.
-Military Ships have been determined as free loot, but should be approached with olive branches before slagging, unless TSF or PDV. (I frag both on principle, but focus on the TSF until they’re dead or AFK).
-Make sure to use common language when exploding other people’s ships.
(This was a funny test and I enjoyed the admin interaction
)
-Distribute the worthwhile loot amongst the wider group, sell the rest.
-Hunt down your local pirates with your mates to get bounty money goodness for better equipment. Sad capitalist Monolith society hours.
-Use a Mudskipper for high speed, good handling and low-medium DPS, good Harasser/Interceptor. Use Drakon for its low-medium speed, 2 220mm frontal firepower, isn’t super fast but can pack a good punch and acts as a good Gunship. Use Burans only if you have an other ship support, it’s quite slow by itself and very large, good target for rammers and heavy hitting weaponry. Has 3 220mm guns on each side (6) and a small armies worth of 57mm, can take a beating but also dish it out, an overall decent Capital Frigate. Don’t bother fixing up the Hammer or researching the Ledokol, it’s not good for anything other than using it as a giant, slow, fuck off ram.
"-Uncrewed Civilian and Expedition Ships can be looted for their haul, so long as their captains are obviously not present. "
Absolutely not.
the rest is fine
:3
I was.. hoping you guys would've done the things I asked .. :/
the old flavor thing is still here
They’re claimed under Dereliction. If a ship you dock at is outta power, has been drifting for awhile, it’s a derelict vessel whose owner likely died on an expedition/other and they won’t be recovered. Civilian vessels tend to just.. have nothing worth taking anyway.
But if they are vacant and also lack crew/ownership, they’re free to be claimed. A victimless crime.
oh those yes
Reduce, reuse, recycle.
That’s why I said Uncrewed
an uncrewed ship could be just parked-
we both know bot would use that as a "tee hee didn't know"
"-Uncrewed Civilian and Expedition Ships can be looted for their haul, so long as their captains are obviously not present. "
just fix this with adding "and the ship is unpowered/drifting"
:3
-Uncrewed/Derelict Civilian and Expedition Ships can be looted for their haul, so long as their captains/crew are (likely) dead or left it adrift.
We ball
Bro no one is going to force players to act how you want them
Even when USSP was a faction if someone pirated with proper roleplay and escalation they'd not be banned
Stop threatening admin action
I've been here since August
Agreed, which is why me and nick are against the two newbies that just showed up one day and declared that we are paycheck bratva 2.0
Laughs in haven't forced anyone to do anything, just raised the need to explain and have gotten a following.
Thank fuck. I was starting to worry my commissar work the other night was crossing a line when it led to the collapse of the whole sector by round end.
That really took a lot out of me, I'm gonna have to not do war ops for at least a week
I don't like all the pirate shit either for the record, piracy is counter-revolutionary
Nah that was peak round end, no complaints
Ideally if we can get a proper fleet up of say, two Burans and a Arkansaws that actually did research, maybe a hammerhead or two
then that could run the shit of even TSF/PDV
Next time we should target PDV, unless I missed a Helios run so far we've just hit the Halcyon. Keep it fair
On the note of engaging TSF more than PDV, idealogically we align with them more to a degree, plus PDV generally don't have as many players
TSF is WAY more active on the regular
You did good, got a hit uncoordinated towards the warping to TSF part but that's usually how it goes. Last time I led it, someone flew their ship into the ass of mine and fucked my engines. So you did better than I lmfao.
I'm a lot better strategically than tactically
Yeah idealogically we have more in common, TSF should get it more, still, don't wanna leave them out of the fun
Strategically is realistically the only way you can plan. Once engagement begins it's a free for all, no plan survives the initial stages of combat.
Agreed, it would just be a TSF + USSP stomp on the PDV. But it would be nice to win one of our wars if for no other reason than morale
Am I the only one that finds it hilarious that the USSP morale seems to go up after we lose a fleet?
Ignore them or disrupt their piracy. Rogue USSP elements? Traitors? Just plain bad soldierly behavior?
Choice is yours smh
the call of the void really fucking gets us lmao
Its funny af
It was nice to be able to destroy a few TSF ships as an infiltrator, that shit was funny
Oh yeah that was great
I was so proud
Pries open your ship piece by piece and detonates your engines! Then does it again.
Never knew the AME flashes "Shit" on the screen before it explodes
only reason I got caught when I did was I had to hide for a biobreak
That's funny af
And I got very close to killing the TSF that got me
shout out heavy pulse pistol
heavy pulse pistol my beloved
The temptation to build another brass ship next time we form a fleet is real, ngl. The Warzimmer sucked, I loved it. Pretty sure a charon round hit it, whatever it was, the ship ceased to exist as more than lattice real quick
Have yet to see this happen, but it would be interesting to have SOME pushback if y'all fuckers are all so truly, woefully upset with being coordinated to take on the factions. 
Try steering the ship instead of sitting in the thrusters, maybe?
Hearing a lot of shelling from the peanut gallery, but don't see them actually doing anything.
I mean all ive seen is
"We taking on TSF/PDV this shift?"
"WAR!!"
"RAAAAHHH"
And me
"BLOOD FOR THE BRASS GOD!"
If people are upset at the direction the ship is being steered, the wheel is right there. Atm people seem to be enjoying it, the rare times there are enough of us to gather
I feel like coordinated war action - revolution - and individual piracy while flying the USSP flag are different things entirely
I sorta see us lately as a natural revival of the old rev type from ss13, with less flashes and more communism
I may be missing a lot of context though, I've been avoiding this conversation because I'm relatively new at 200h
Absolutely, but from what you’ve seen of Hans, is he truly a pirate or more just a looter that will occasionally glass a fucker for being in one of the more troubling companies?
A looter for sure, but the only company I have beef with is Paycheck Bratva
Paycheck Bratva is glass on sight. Hive tend to release the Chimeras, so they’re also getting it. Midnight Co are more akin to Pirates than their weird arms dealer angle they got going.
I've bought some good shit from a Midnight Co ship!
Buddy gave me a death squad lasgun
If they’re played properly they’re fine, t’is why hailing and demanding company intent is generally my go to, my issue is I tend to see more of them using it as a piracy company.
I've only had one pirate encounter. Two if you count me shooting Ace's ship after it got hijacked
And the first one was within my first 30h

Lmao youll miss that feeling. Some shifts Ace would have 3 screens open. Advanced radar, firing console, pda notekeeper to keep track of reported pirate ships announced over broadband.
Because he took pride in his station, and strove for excellence on the job...
Or because he liked glassing, and a paper trail would help explain why said reported ships got glassed even after hailing.
Either or.
yes
its not about that dont worry
the way youre currently doing it is fine
I just dont want it to devolve
and
I dont want us to be known as "pirates" or "privateers"
we're the people's protectors
glory to the USSP.
that and if we hear someone fuckin with civvies from our guys we yeet him into the sun :3
I'm coming soooonnnn I have an operation tonightttt
Me about to go to the Laundromat cause my kid pissed the bed again
air dominance over Caoiva must be maintained
Make it so!
Well, realistically if that's what the USSP was now. The factions would just glass Camelot and that would be the bitter end of it.
I liked the commune concept of USSP. That's what we were doing until recently. And it's because of that we had the support and manpower to be as aggressive a faction as we have been. I think leaning too heavily into the pirate gameplay will attract the worst players, and also a long lasting meta grudge against the USSP.
They don't want to be paycheck brava because it would mean they are actually an enemy of the USSP.
oh I fully agree that pirating is a bad idea for the long term
sure civilians aren't super relevant but they do have influence
and over time they probably will gain a bit more
says no one ever
Then you know nothing about what the topic we’re on is.
Privateering is similar but entirely different.
privateering is government approved piracy
its still piracy
if you get caught by the opposing government you will be treated the same or worse
Yes, we still adhere to all the same laws and regulations. We aid the civilians and other helpful companies but attack the Imperialist TSF and Degenerate PDV along with hostile companies. I don’t know how that doesn’t sound like what we should already be doing.
Yes, but you are talking about targeting civilian factions. Maybe the only one the USSp would be aggressive against is the actual larper, the American guys.
Which government doesn’t exist here?
You haven’t read any of the messages but you have a big opinion.
What message
I’m not targeting MD, CC, Civilians or non-hostile Companies.

If you are like getting commisions from the TSF or PDV to pirate and harass the other side I'd reckonn to call that privateering
maybe the Overseer I guess but that's a bit silly
this is what we call an insurgency then
smh
Yea you said you were if military class. But a lot of Merc companies have military class, but they are still basically civies in comparison to the factions.
It’s Privateering. Insurgency assumes we’re rebels.
USSP beef should be with the other factions. The factions suck and should be our only ops.
We ain't rebels it's our sector. PDV and Marines need to get the hell out.
this is pedantic
piracy is piracy no matter how you dress it up
unless you are not doing piracy you are doing piracy
Lol
Well, the difference is pirateers were sanctioned pirates. Meaning they were actually actors of war. While pirates are just criminals.
Normally the people getting pirated don't care too much about that difference.
But, it does matter dramatically to the pirates in question.
Mainly in legal protections and material support.
your legal protections is that your backers won't try to kill you
maybe you could claim POW, not that that's a big thing back then

Glory to the Privateer Union. 
In all seriousness, this is just the progression of just about any abandoned military group left behind after a war throughout most of known history. They’ll either become Mercenaries (which the USSP has done thus far). And when things become more desperate, they’ll strip more of their ideology to adapt to the new environment. The USSP doesn’t exist in this sector. They pulled out and abandoned the remnants on Camelot. The most aid we get is Bluespaced USSP ships that we have to purchase out of what appears to be a blackmarket(?). We’re still quite similar to the OG USSP, we aid civilians of the sector, while combating corporations (because in lore we should hate most corporations) we attack TSF because we are at war with them in lore. We are semi-friendly to the PDV but will take pieces of them for ourselves because of the lack of support and resources calling for desperate measures. We are either loyalists or separatists. And none seem like they want to go against the “hey guys wanna kill the TSF today?” Mob mentality I’ve been able to conjure up with that single sentence.
Just stuck on words. Pirate. Privateer. USSP. Remnant. We are comrades that seek to aid the collective (who are sided with us), that’s really all that matters. Those that aren't with us are either against us or are neutral parties which we probably won't interact with much throughout most rounds.
If I called it a War, I’d get less pushback on this needless back and forth. But that’s not what this is. We are not the USSP Military. We are those that got left behind and must adapt. We’re not even true communists, we utilize the credit system and sell shit daily.
not hate
simply disagree.
I don't know if you've read the actual USSP lore yet
also
we weren't in war with the TSF in lore.
We would've been erased otherwise.
you're most likely looking at the year-old outdated flavor text that was around and no one read anyway
you're lacking information
"taking pieces" off of PDV is nonsensical
If I find a ship adrift in space, I’m taking the pieces worth taking.
...which is stupid and shortsighted as you could bring those pieces back, get gratitude and assistance and alliance in return and not be forced into said measures 😭
either way
you need a massive catch-up.
I'm not funny, I can show you in practice
I’ve read your lore, the Paradise lore, the other lores dropped by other players and have existed in the muck of the game.
We have never been at war with the TSF.

