Archylle & Jester: Armed Trauma Unit Implementation (Varying Price$)

[misty charm]

prototype

mostly for you to see the colors

i made 2 small pouches

@agile tide too, not too proud of this one tbh but i'm making it work for now

[agile tide]

Make the chest rig a slightly dim light with better shading

Don't use browns

Add nitrile insignia

Don't overdo it with the teal

[little storm]

minecraft chests on your chestrig

[misty charm]

fuck you
*diamonds your chests

[little storm]

Well now it's a pair of eyes looking at me

:|

[weary wharf]

maybe make it

in correlation to the normal

Trauma team?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1422921461303218258/1423306985046282333/marcin-blaszczak-trauma-engine3k.jpg?ex=68e07e2d&is=68df2cad&hm=2263dbe0855178809670b5c91baf28c64397249e6b0fa902108ccfbb3098cab0&

[misty charm]

oh true!

i'll

update it

gimem a sec

[misty charm]

you got the insignia?

[agile tide]

Fucking auto correct

[agile tide]

I meant indicators

Just how normal rigs look

With those strips of colour

[misty charm]

@weary wharf i decided to take a break from the rig and try the hardsuit, this is the paramed version

[little storm]

Greer

[misty charm]

greer

ribbit

[little storm]

Frogsuit

https://tenor.com/view/brick-frog-frog-venture-brothers-go-team-venture-villain-gif-17662386

[misty charm]

adding a sandevistan

i still need archy's opinion on the colors for the frontal one

as to make them darker or not

[weary wharf]

Front is wayy too uhh...cyan?

Like i dont hate it

[misty charm]

hmm, want me to replace it for another color?

[weary wharf]

Hmmm

[weary wharf]

Whats this one???

[misty charm]

back design of the first one, it's the paramedic voidsuit i believe

[weary wharf]

Its fucking great

[misty charm]

mhm, it's already added so it is good XD

[weary wharf]

SOMETHING LIKE THAT

GOOBER

[misty charm]

color wise?

so blues

[mild sun]

Wasn't trying to rush, was just curious how progress was

[little storm]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-space-stomp-stomping-isaac-clarke-stop-it-gif-27372414

Isaac Clark hp bar lookin mf

[weary wharf]

It does

[misty charm]

@weary wharf

@agile tide which color for the back?

[agile tide]

Blue for variety

[misty charm]

roger roger!

[mild sun]

Blue stands out more, yeah

Is the white on the left shoulder a shine or white markings?

If it's white markings, is it missing on the revered left shoulder

This is what i mean

[weary wharf]

Ok oomfie

I like it

Just...the white box in the middle feels too

It stands out too much

[mild sun]

maybe some white pouches under it

[misty charm]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-batman-gif-9501676024331898438

[glacial karma]

Oooh!

[misty charm]

i tried adding pouches, didn't looked too good but that's my skill issue qwq

[weary wharf]

Like I like the design

Just the middle box is... too big

Of idk it needs something

[mild sun]

how about white side pouches

[weary wharf]

But it stands out

[mild sun]

if these are pouches

[misty charm]

oh those are yeah

[mild sun]

try those white, see how it looks

i think it needs a few white bits to make the chest not look so weird?

[misty charm]

i'll try!

[mild sun]

i stil like it

maybe some red accents

[misty charm]

@weary wharf

which one do you like more? can't get some proper pouches for now

[mild sun]

#2

[weary wharf]

Mhm

[misty charm]

@agile tide

[agile tide]

Two

[misty charm]

@weary wharf @agile tide edited versions, going for the sides rn

[agile tide]

I like it

[misty charm]

@agile tide

@weary wharf

any of you both alive?

i'll avoid toying with colors a bit before getting input

[agile tide]

I fuck with it heavy

[misty charm]

oh i'm glad some people didn't liked it in #general but i'm glad you do!

need the other bidder input

[weary wharf]

Sorry fell asleep lemme see

Looks sick

[misty charm]

@weary wharf @agile tide I'll get to adding the helmet the goggles and the magboots

[weary wharf]

Yayy

[sonic trellis]

Dude it looks like slosh mail from limbus company...

[misty charm]

hey my higher ups like it, unless you're paying me i can't alter it

[weary wharf]

I would like it more akin to the original but I dont wanna be a bother and keep asking that 😭

[misty charm]

bro you're PAYING me

tell me the changes you want

nerd

like more blue tones idk

[sonic trellis]

Well I'd say keep the color palette and instead of having the legs jut out
Make it so the legs drip down
Would probably make it feel more uniform and unique

Add more weight near the bottom like two pixels out near the foot

[weary wharf]

Could you make it literally like the original just change the colours so we don't get sued

[sonic trellis]

Noooooooo.. they are kind of cooking!

Like this has potential like the back doesn't need the spine thingy but it's really good! 🥺

Like the shoulder plates are almost like a inbuilt mantle flowing over the rest of the suit

[weary wharf]

Then what would you recommend needs changing?

[sonic trellis]

Hmm thicker pants and removal of the sandifestine or whatever it's called

I know what it is I watched the anime and it's really good but like make it an implant instead of adding it to a hard suit

Goob already has it

[weary wharf]

No idea what it is, mind explaining?

[sonic trellis]

A implant that speeds up your movements to a ridiculous degree and slows time around you or rather enhances your perception to take in the environment faster than a normal human can

[misty charm]

it's a kerenzikov

instead of direct neural implantation it uses an exoskeleton that then connects to the spine

aka just

[weary wharf]

And why the fuck shouldn't we have that on suits? That sounds great

[misty charm]

the explanation as to why it has such little speed debuff for higher armor

[weary wharf]

Implants sound borderline broken

[misty charm]

cyberpsychosis

kek

[sonic trellis]

Goob is working on that cyberpsychosis and would balance implants
But really it just doesn't feel right having a spine on a hard suit that doesn't use the aesthetic of blood and guts

[misty charm]

it is just me sillying around before the main design is done tho

so

@weary wharf any edits you want for the main design?

if not @agile tide

[sonic trellis]

Well the helmet ties it all together what are you thinking as the designer?

[misty charm]

well for now i was seeing with these more like plain masks kinda like the ones trauma team have

@weary wharf

[sonic trellis]

Honestly the basic helmet could work with the spine if the spine was melded into the helmet as well on the back

The color theory of 70 20 10 would also be abided by perhaps

[weary wharf]

I love the helmet just the suit...idk maybe if its all worn together it'll work

[sonic trellis]

Honestly customizability it's so limited in ship forks

[little storm]

Speed implants are not allowed. No one gets speed in monolith.

[sonic trellis]

The nefarious S.P.E.E.D legs

[little storm]

Not on suits

Speed suits big no no

[sonic trellis]

Oh

[sonic trellis]

Well what about the purpose of the suits they are meant to be used for quick extraction
Of targets and aren't really generally made for prolonged gunfire

Could you perhaps elaborate on why speed suits or void suits aren't specifically allowed such luxuries?

[little storm]

Speed suits aren't allowed in monolith because people use them exclusively for an advantage for combat

It's fraggers delight

Source: We used to have them and it was awful

[sonic trellis]

Well what about massively increased Carry capacity to the point of carrying anything weightlessly?
Your opinion on that

[little storm]

I'm not the one making the bounty.

I'm just telling you- they're not gonna be merged if there's a speed boost on them

[weary wharf]

Mhm speed stuff got removed yea

[sonic trellis]

Welp it looks like we're going to have death stranding

As the main mechanic

[misty charm]

[sonic trellis]

Well in that case let's discuss what should be the main attribute of the suits?

[misty charm]

hmmmm

[sonic trellis]

Are they going to be heavy and slow?
Or weightless and light?

[misty charm]

it's more like

paras have low combat res like piercing slashing etc

but high contamination rads all that

while the juggernaut model (yet to make when finish this one) will have the tanky stuff

like like tacsuit and combatsuit

[sonic trellis]

Hmm be sure to also consider the history and experiences this medical corporation has been through

As in cyberpunk they were originally normal doctors doing good deeds but eventually needed to turn to services

So the history of our medical center probably has dealt with infections such as chimera and would probably have higher resistance against melee

And would probably be very terrible against heat

[misty charm]

that's why they have 2 suits, the team is made of 3 types, captain extractor and protector (holder names) which the protectors basically push to get a safe path and keep it safe while the extractors grab the body and leave while captain leads

i'd have to check in with my higher ups

[sonic trellis]

Hmm. I hope I'm offering good input for you and your benefactors

Because honestly no matter how it turns out we're going to get something real sick and awesome

[misty charm]

@weary wharf well you can debate it with my boss tbh, i'm taking a small break

and i'd love more guidance as to where to aim with this stuff

[weary wharf]

Well all the lore for the HME is done by @agile tide so best to ask them regarding all this

[sonic trellis]

Hmm. Alright!

So big questions.

Number one
What is general work culture is it extremely strict down to the bones

Or somewhat relaxed

Question number two
Are there manufacturing processes and unique qualities unique to them when they design weaponry gear and tools?

Question number three
Would my death stranding idea fit?

[sonic trellis]

Sorry I should elaborate death stranding
As in the aesthetic and the mechanic of carrying body bags on your back slot

[agile tide]

All looks great so far

[weary wharf]

bro im playing Arena breakout which is like a Tarkov game and

😭

Sick

[sonic trellis]

You know I believe
One of the trauma response team
Ships

Could be a refurbished refugee carrier
Obviously this would be the capital ship
Only having 20 mm cannons but being the tankiest ship in the whole game apart from the ADS capital

It would have a massive rectangle with windowed bedrooms inside meant for housing multiple people
And having a medical station hidden in one of the corners

And this ship is actually separated into two parts
The giant cargo container
Housing refugees

And bridge being at the front
They are only connected by lattice so one of the big weaknesses is someone cutting the lattice
This breaking your ship but that is why your ship has 20 mm in order to ensure no one does that

The ship's main purpose is in order to extract a massive amount of people

From deadly warzones

Also one last tidbit the front of the ship is less defended

Meaning the weak point is the bridge

After all the ship was constructed to protect the refugees not the employees

[mild sun]

🙏 praying i dont get purged from here if jester does make this no longer community driven

[agile tide]

I only need to keep the lore community driven.

Not content bounties like this, but you're fine.

You don't want it to be a fragfest.

[mild sun]

I do not want them to be targeted for gear and im genuinely excited and looking forward to their addition

[little storm]

You WILL be hunted for gear, and you WILL frag or die

[misty charm]

they're op guns wise but they're contract binded to avoid casualties, they use non lethals (buffed) and stuff

[agile tide]

They don't use non-lethals

Non-casualty ratings are above their pay grade

What matters is the client

[misty charm]

@hallow canopy you doing the ship?

[hallow canopy]

i could do this, y eah!

seems fun

[misty charm]

yeah i was mostly asking because you took it

yet enever elaborated

kkek

[hallow canopy]

my bad gang

[misty charm]

i was checking in and stuff

was about to take it for myself

[hallow canopy]

pfft you already beat me to the MD remapping

i wanted to take that too

[fleet viper]

Why not collaborate

[mild sun]

@misty charm maybe all 3 of us could work on it?

Since I've thrown my hat in the ring and got hell figuring out how to get the mapping stuff working

Already started on the walls/skeleton for it

[misty charm]

we're not paying you lil bro

[mild sun]

i dont want money for it

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[mild sun]

@agile tide you around?

oh nvm lol

[copper owl]

What will basic ER MD care cost?

I assume ATU is an entirely separate form of insurance

[hallow canopy]

pretty much yeah

ATU will dive into hell to retrieve you

regular MED guys might hesitate, depending on their sanity

[misty charm]

as the main contributor i can agree

albeit i've yet to decide the prices

they're expensive and operate via payments. this basically makes them an expensive direct version of medical for when respawning inevitable gets nerfed so you can actually survive and get your ship back and stuff

[copper owl]

I imagine basic MD ER care is like 5k with annual payments

lowest tier

[torn crane]

One thing that I pushed for that I think they're going with is that basic treatment is free, and ER's are free to treat whoever they want

It's more so that if you have insurance, you're at the top of the list

[sonic trellis]

God I hope you can respawn immediately as a different character

That would be such a nice quality of life.

[sonic trellis]

.

[misty charm]

literally just that, medics will still treat you like anyone but ATU has priority with their clients basically forming advanced rescue missions

[misty charm]

fragging ratios aument by 500%

[mild sun]

I'll be heading to bed soon, so I can post what I've done so far for the new MD here, all feedback is appreciated

Started working on the pipes, trash chutes finished and 90% of scrubber/vent pipes finished

Friend helped me colour them properly

Need to light it up more, add more cosmetic features, emergency lights, all the electrics and engines

I still don't know just how big to make the ATU section

[torn crane]

Are you planning on adding a full medical setup and lathe room? Those two things are major complaints I've heard with the current MD

[misty charm]

yeah we're doing it

[mild sun]

how do i STOP seeing the pipes, trying to get nice screenshots @misty charm

mass scanner view
main lobby + cryo & atmos
abandoned bar
DoC office
Science department + optional solar array
new Medbay
Currenty Wip ATU wing

[misty charm]

turn off the t ray vision

[mild sun]

It wasn't working, unless there's a seperate command

I seriously hope I won't have to repipe everything, it looks ugly but it's functional

I'm probably the most happiest with the science department

Some walls are missing since I was working on the pipes btw*

Any comments on it? @misty charm

[misty charm]

actually no i fw it a lot

[mild sun]

Any cosmetic changes?

Wish I had a rough idea of the scale of the ATU ship, so I have a general idea of how big the ATU section should be

Can't help but feel it's missing something, plus the general shape is off

Idc if it's ugly from the exterior, just missing the greeblies on the outside and stuff

[agile tide]

The condor will be near the level of a serpent

Large

Weapons will be very simple, mostly merc level weapons with a few faction level weapons

Like cyrexas

[hallow canopy]

oh hot dang, that large?

yeah! i can do that

[mild sun]

Alright that helps

[modern parcel]

oh boy

[mild sun]

Seems like most people like what I've done so far, including the main people with the ATU project

So that's encouraging

[mild sun]

Cabling done

[torn crane]

@mild sun are you still looking for feedback on your MD design?

[mild sun]

yes

the people in general are giving me nothingburger critique

and are scared of change

i can post updateed screenshhohts

[torn crane]

These are my suggestions then

• Move the chemvend next to the other chem machines, every chemist will do it anyways
• Make a dedicated lathe room and put all the lathes there with a silo (probably replace the engi room you have next to cryo with that) (And by all the lathes I mean medical, auto, proto and circuit), with some destroyed frames / space for more machines
• Make the cryo functional from the beginning, people have an immensely difficult time setting that up and it is fully necessary for treating many patients
• More stasis beds, PLEASE, you'll have some more space in the cryo room from removing the lathes (3 total is my suggestion)
• Ideally add a dedicated chem jug locker/freezer/smart fridge to the main treatment room
• The combined surgery and morgue is pretty sweet, especially you're going for that efficient medical chop shop aesthetic. I think it just needs a bit more space for a surgery area with the table in the middle of that part of the room, a freezer for organs, a surgical tools duffel/crate, and a biomass reclaimer with a drain near by (and some round start biomass)
• Ideally 1-2 more medical beds in the main medbay, for a total of 3-4

• I'm normally against individual treatment rooms in medbays since they get no use, but on Mono they'll probably get used (I think) so I think it's fine. Having a stasis bed in addition to the normal bed would make people more likely to use them though

My suggestions are like, aiming to make MD a place that people don't have to buy a promise to strip every single round to get it functional

• Add body bags to the morgue, either in a container or a default box; having a decent amount of body bags to shove people in seems very much up HME's alley

Actually, I changed my mind, the combined surgery and morgue kinda slaps, updating my suggestions to reflect that

[sonic trellis]

Could you actually add a botany section?
Especially since botany is a very important part of chemical engineering

[dusk robin]

Don't forget the DOC's milk and cookies

[dusk robin]

Not those cheap knockoff biscuits, the real deal cookies >:v they are sacred

Just ask @fleet viper

[agile tide]

Terrifying

[mild sun]

Do you like the map so far btw @agile tide

newly updated Medbay

Ironing out the kinks atm

[agile tide]

I do really like it

[mild sun]

figuring out station beacons

[agile tide]

Oh also, I wanna apologize for being a dick in the past

[mild sun]

ATU

[mild sun]

It's alright, i want to apologise as well, i can be argumentative without realising

[agile tide]

I always strive for self improvement, shouldn't have treated you that way over gripes for a collection of people alongside targetting an individual because of ties to said community.

But yeh yeh, good work so far. Looks baller

[mild sun]

I also shouldn't have made fun of you for having the hammer in your name

it was cihldish

[mild sun]

Im thinking of making 2 versions

one with ATU, one without

so we can push the first one for a succesful PR if ATU arent in by then

[agile tide]

They will be

[mild sun]

and then just update the station to have the ATU version when therye done

seamless imo

[mild sun]

oh?

[agile tide]

Ivy is making good progress

That and I payed off the bounty

[mild sun]

i also gotta be able to spawn in and add specific ATU stuff

[agile tide]

@hallow canopy Archylle will find you your 15$ for the Condor

[mild sun]

wait let me make a list

[agile tide]

Nodnod, working on it

Alright, gonna be dead again. Duty calls

[mild sun]

• ATU station beacon
• ATU suit storage (filled/empty)
• ATU captain locker (filled/empty)
• ATU only permission docking airlock (regular/glass)
• ATU captain rubber stamp
• ATU paramedic PDA/ID
• ATU captaain PDA/ID
• ATU fax machine
• ATU spawner
• ATU Captain spawner
• ATU sign (symbol with ATU under it)

not as much as i thought

maybe some ATU signs with a similar design to the otherss

ATU version of this

think thats all its missing

beacon, containers, sign

🫡

[hallow canopy]

yippie!

still working down the line my comissions

[mild sun]

ATU department expansion (left side barracks and chembay)

[hallow canopy]

hella dope!

[hallow canopy]

put an ashtray to the folding chair PWEASE

[mild sun]

it has an ashtray already

[hallow canopy]

people dont gotta rawdog their spent cig butts on the plastic table

[hallow canopy]

yippiee!

[agile tide]

Rubee, you amaze me with how much unhinged shit you can say

[hallow canopy]

thanks boss, its my autism

[agile tide]

I find it funny because of my autism

[hallow canopy]

twins!

[mild sun]

Does this look like a premium patient room

[hallow canopy]

hmm.. the machinery is giving "spare room made into patient room"

remove the machine, but keep the nanomed

then maybe add a fireplace or a spare vending machine

[hallow canopy]

then its the perfect cyberpunk trauma team platinium room

[mild sun]

Expensive personal items from previous patients on table

I think its done and everything works

@agile tide

Would very much appreciate more critique and notes

I'll post a bunch of screenshots and take a break, but I'd say it's 99% done

Before YAML etc

[mild sun]

id say 99% complete

If noone else is working on it, I'll make the ATU shuttle next

I want to speed this whole thing up as much as possible

Overall, Nu-MD has 11 useable docks, optional science department, optional bar, ATU department, new expansive medbay

[mild sun]

I plan to make the ship as well as learn to sprite stuff to make the ATU rubber stamp, PDA/ID and sign

[misty charm]

they're done from my side btw

[mild sun]

Rubber stamp, id/PDA and sign shouldn't take too long surely

I can do it for free

I really want this project to succeed

[misty charm]

no like literally i already made them

kek

[mild sun]

Oh, even the stamp and sign?

How much is finished, as far as I've seen you've only made hardsuits

[misty charm]

I'm doing the sign, yeah

[mild sun]

Is it safe to say noones started the ship

[mild sun]

Since I have you, do you have any idea what ship shape Jester or arch wanted

I know it's almost Serpent size and that's it

I kinda want to make it look sorta like the TT little floating car, but in space ship form

[misty charm]

@hallow canopy

[mild sun]

Have they started it

Money is nice and all, but I'm willing to do everything I can pro-bono if it helps speed up development of the project

[hallow canopy]

oh now those are bangers

[hallow canopy]

i havent yet! but i will do it!

im still working on my other comissions atm

[mild sun]

@hallow canopy did you see these

[hallow canopy]

yep! i love it!!

geniunely looks like a station rather than like, a mobile outpost

love the touches that makes it feel "lived in"

if you want my advice, add rusted walls to the "abandoned" rooms

might help make it look more run-down

[hallow canopy]

maybe add a flatpack vendor + a FTL vendor somewhere

could improve the QoL for people trying to modify their ships or fix up the station

[mild sun]

There's a flat pack vendor in the main hallway

FTL vendor isn't a bad idea though

And I'm glad you like it

It seems to be a hit with pretty much everyone so far

[fleet viper]

The a sacred cookies that will get defiled by roach jones.

[fleet viper]

Well that just tells you how annoying the old (current) MD is

[torn crane]

Since there's a dock specifically for ATU, it might be a good idea to put dock labels on, similar to how CO and faction bases have it

[little storm]

@mild sun Nothing says ATU can't have a 2nd vessel if you wanna map one beside the Condor

[hallow canopy]

technically the artemis is an ATU vessel

its just severely unarmed

[fleet viper]

Just needs bit more dakka

[mild sun]

True

I'll ask jester and the others

Maybe a smaller 1 - 2 person ship?

I'd the main serpent sized one is like, basically their flagship

[mild sun]

I could make an upgraded one

Can name it the sparrow or buzzard

[mild sun]

@hallow canopy

making an upgraded artemis, i hope thats ok

one more armed/armoured for ATU with more space

i was going to call it the sparrow

Could even name it the Artemis II if you want

Honestly after reading the little background stuff you wrote for it, it would make sense for the ATU to have a modified one

[mild sun]

i saw that @little storm

[little storm]

?

Oh me typing?

[mild sun]

yar

grabbing you to get your opinion

[little storm]

I had typed up a block of stuff earlier and never sent it

[mild sun]

ah fair enough

do you think its too big

im shrinking the nose a bit

[little storm]

It was something to the effect of "Yeah make another ship for the non high priority VIP's"

Seems a little big

Think ambulance

Small, very fast

[mild sun]

shrunk the nose

could shrink it further

im trying to avoid just.. remaking the artemis

[little storm]

Medbay is kinda big.

[mild sun]

trying to make a modified one

[little storm]

QRF ship

[mild sun]

QRF?

[little storm]

Quick Reaction Force

[mild sun]

at this point just use the artemis

if i keep shrinking it, itll just be the artemis

im trying to make an upgraded one

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-anguish-despair-gif-13915908866750092639

medbay doesnt seem too big to me, but i could shrink it by a tile or two

@weary wharf @agile tide second opinions?

[weary wharf]

im here

jobouihnopij

[mild sun]

trying to make an upgraded artemis

thoughts?

[weary wharf]

been so fucking busy making my ship oomfie 😭

[mild sun]

shrinking it a bit more armoured

sorry bestie

[weary wharf]

Oh no i finished it

finally

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1419975211662446653/1426345172936949911/image.png?ex=68eae2f5&is=68e99175&hm=7b62d84c132c2977435d55942078eb1ce7aead689fa56404de390eb90ea2b5c4&

There she is

[mild sun]

ark Jr

[weary wharf]

Got a mini bar in there too

[mild sun]

@little storm

shrunk it a bit

i wanted to make a spaceship version of this

[mild sun]

Check it out!

[little storm]

Suppository shaped ship

[mild sun]

Do you fw it

everything is set up

all it needs is a pr

[little storm]

looks good to me

[mild sun]

better screenshot

i fucked up spawning the artemis next to it, it spawned inside, but it helps show the size diff

[burnt elm]

Would those ship gatling guns be better on the front?

Like the ones you can see here

[mild sun]

it has heat seeking missiles

but i see what you mean

may be a good idea

[burnt elm]

I think the cool factor of dual mini guns would be badass

[burnt elm]

Are the draupnirs used on anything other than the USSP base?

[dark yoke]

One merc ship was being made that included them, no idea what happened to it though.

You’d have to make the front a bit longer to have them up there

[mild sun]

turns out the top turrets are not miniguns

which turret is a minigun

[dark yoke]

RAC-30 I think it was, the draupnir

Should look like two tiles long-ish

[mild sun]

Miniguns found

4 big autocannons, 2 missile pods and 2 mini cannons

[burnt elm]

I recently slapped a draupnir on the front of my Artemis funnily enough

Reposed one off of Camelot after the USSP didn’t pay me for research disks

[little storm]

With that level of armament ATU shuttles are gonna be valid targets for ATS

[burnt elm]

Honestly I think that’s fine. The entire point of these ships is that they are able to fight back.

If they don’t have the ability to do that then they fail in their only purpose as an armed medical ship

[mild sun]

medships + they only act in self defense

[little storm]

Doesn't matter.

[burnt elm]

I would like heavily combat oriented ships that can go on the offensive in a chimeras outbreak

[little storm]

If you slap missiles on a ship it's gonna be hunted

[mild sun]

I forgot, people suck

cant have fun

ill remove the missile pods i guess

[burnt elm]

If it’s ment to fill a niche as a well armed medical ship then it kinda needs to be that

[mild sun]

i agree, but people are fucking stupid and shitters

[burnt elm]

We have an abundance of lightly armed medical ships

[mild sun]

even after multiple people in this project expllains why its stupid to target and kill ATU purely for their gear

people still wanted to

its why their gear will have acidifiers

because of shitters

even if ATU never shoot someone and have literally no reason to, people will still whine and shit about how they have good gear and ship guns

its frustrating

[burnt elm]

Even the most expensive medical ships have only the lightest cannons

[mild sun]

im agreeing with you

but shitters be shitting

theres gonna be so many Ahelps when ATU get added, because of shitters not understandin their role

https://tenor.com/view/monkeyquote-gif-17287897282409113653

[burnt elm]

If it means anything to you, I can’t wait to try them out

Sound like they will be fun to play

[mild sun]

i learnt how to map and im going to learn to sprite just to help speed up the project

and i plan to main ATU

also went into the TSF trenches of boredom to get hours for my Whitelist

i REALLY want to play ATU

i remade MD if you missed it btw @burnt elm

[burnt elm]

I saw, it looks good 👍

[mild sun]

my memory is really bad

i probablyy spoke to you about it lmao

early onset dementia

[agile tide]

I have a character in mind for ATU since I wanna play Captain

[burnt elm]

I first saw it a few hours ago, it has a lot more personality than the old one

[mild sun]

i just wanna play ATU so bad

did you see the medium sized ATU ship i made? @agile tide

2 - 3 man ship compared to the big 6 man one

[agile tide]

What's it called?

[mild sun]

frontier tumor

[mild sun]

Sparrow

[agile tide]

IF MY WORK INTERNET WOULD LOAD IT QUI-

There we go

[mild sun]

i learnt some things i was missing from MD, like vacuum tiles and linking the air alarms

[agile tide]

Looks badass

[mild sun]

but the ship is like 100% complete and ready for PR

i tried to compare it to the Artemis ( i bsed it on an upgraded artemis basically) but it spawned inside

size comparison to the artemis

i guess

[agile tide]

Looks good!

[mild sun]

Awesome, good to hear

there were some disagreements on the guns

can you weight in?

it has 4 bit autocannons, 2 small autocannons (miniguns like trauma team ship) and 2 heat seeking missile pods

oktober for example said the missiles were too much

your thoughts?

[agile tide]

Your choice to retain the missiles, but it'll be targetted by ADS regardless

[mild sun]

what i thought

and tbh, the heat seeking missiles reduce collateral damage

[mild sun]

the miniguns are because of this

its gonna be a Whitelist ATU ship anyway so

i think its fine

im making a non atu ship rn and im toning it down

[copper owl]

if ADS will target it anyway give em missiles

non factions need more gear

[mild sun]

agreed

[hallow canopy]

ohh, swanky!

[mild sun]

I'm glad you like it!

Oh wait,that's the old design

[mild sun]

@hallow canopy this is the finished design

[hallow canopy]

yeah! that looks like a proper armed up ATU vessel!

[mild sun]

I'm glad you like it, I was a little nervous how you'd feel about me using your Artemis design but upgraded

[hallow canopy]

hey, upgrading ships were my first ships done in the server!

look at the Twilight MKII and Sabine MKII

those were my first ships uploaded to the srever

of course i dont mind it! its actually kinda nice that people are upgrading my ships into variants too

[mild sun]

im working on a sirius MkII rn

[hallow canopy]

hell yeah

[burnt elm]

I feel like a good way to stop people from looting their gear is to make it accessible through other means

[mild sun]

acidifiers are whats being used iirc

[burnt elm]

My idea was just to make a variant of the suit with some green color tones and stick it in the merc spawn equipment

[mild sun]

its the hypo of all things, people are willing to glass an ATU ship over

[burnt elm]

Ah i see

Well I guess the acidifiers will have to do then

[burnt elm]

would these fit the idea of the trauma unit?

[agile tide]

Too advanced

ATU's shield comes from being scary as fuck

You'll never get hit if your opponent is too scared to fire

[mild sun]

pulling my hair out at the issues im having with new MD with the station map

it keeps breaking and refusing to work

idk how to fix it

[agile tide]

Ask our maints to assist

[misty charm]

hai

[misty charm]

what's wrong with the map

[mild sun]

Nothing, it's the station map itself that's got issues

When I use the station map, nothing appears

Sometimes only the station outline appears, no beacons

I experimented earlier and got beacons to work, then tried enabling all of them and it stopped working again

Even with no beacons, it doesn't show any of the stations walls or doors

Just a green shape

[misty charm]

is it the outline or more like a box?

[mild sun]

I pinged you In #mapping

Not at pc atm

[burnt elm]

would it be a good idea to give the Trauma Unit healium tanks?

I play medical all most every round and have never seen this stuff.

[sonic trellis]

Oh absolutely

That would be so peak
And their faction Tech tree could involve the manufacturing of it
Like making it easier to make

[misty charm]

let's call it rattium

[mild sun]

i heard jester is leaving on the 20th?

who will help the project in t heir palce

please dont tell me this project is dead

[weary wharf]

kind of is

[sonic trellis]

Don't say that there is plenty of ways forward
Don't let a cornstarch
Ingredient tell you otherwise

[weary wharf]

wat

[mild sun]

[zealous pasture]

No money no honey rip ATU

Died before being a thing

[little storm]

Well the main coder stopped too

so 2 roadblocks

[zealous pasture]

Atleast we can still roleplay ATU as MD mercs

My wish would be to good pieces of scraps to be added to the game

Like maybe a copy of some hardsuit already existing just with different look

[zealous pasture]

And this ship

[misty charm]

well i AM still here, my attention sadly got diverted

[little storm]

Heard your PC died

[mild sun]

I'm assuming the other person who offered to make ships skedaddled after the project died, but I have plans to finish their flagship

Cus why not

[little storm]

REVIVAL

[sonic trellis]

Yippee

[little storm]

https://tenor.com/view/1x1x1x1-forsaken-roblox-necromancy-i-gif-7683812168067572945

[misty charm]

https://tenor.com/view/john-doe-john-doe-forsaken-forsaken-roblox-forsaken-meme-gif-15592225695138763157

[mild sun]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-gif-23426873

ITS TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMEEEE

new ATU wing

also the small ATU ship

[sonic trellis]

God I cannot wait to be hired to assassinate ATU members

[mild sun]

https://tenor.com/view/speechless-smoking-man-old-man-smoking-old-guy-smoking-old-man-cigarette-gif-16836230630449212567

you guys suck

[sonic trellis]

No I'm rad 😺

R.F radical feline

I love my new character gimmick

[mild sun]

I'm going to bed, but MD updated again

[torn crane]

What changed?

[little storm]

Ark endorsed it

[mild sun]

• ATU wing overall shrunk
• ATU wing no longer has lethal weapons on spawn ( will change when official whitelisted roles are added)
• Main medbay size increased slightly

[torn crane]

Hell yeah! I assume they're one of the big maints?

[little storm]

...No.

[mild sun]

The owner

[little storm]

[mild sun]

I'm going to attempt to learn how to sprite, so I can work on some of the basic things

List of everything unique we need

[torn crane]

I had no idea lmao

[mild sun]

They don't talk much

From what I've seen anyway

[misty charm]

[copper owl]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-burrito-burrito-gif-27664931

LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

[mild sun]

@silk cradle
We originally wanted them to be pretty strong and a very "oh shit the atu are coming" issue if you killed someone with preem insurance

but fraggers/faction shitters whined and whined and whined

they want the extra shiny gear, they cant live without it

they throw a shitfit if they cant get gear/armour someonee else has

[silk cradle]

is it something the maints approved as a concept and is it contextually fit into the setting properly?

[mild sun]

Ark themselves is endorsing it

[silk cradle]

or is it just some oc corporation you want to implement

[mild sun]

which is why the project got revived

It was going to be part of jester company, harmony

as a branch of it

Wish they handed off notes to me before resigning

[sonic trellis]

I don't know maybe just give them really good armor
But when placed on someone it loses 50% of its effectiveness or something

No stupid 80% slow down

[mild sun]

the OLD atu armour is currently ingame, but unobtainable, Ivy was working on new sprites and stats were being considered

[spiral crater]

my one thing i would like to see is some form of coordination for clientele being handed over peacefully should they be in the hands of major names like TSF

[mild sun]

this is the old armour

[silk cradle]

ok you crossed the biggest hurdle now you get to do the funny thing and wait for any of this information to be officiated well enough for the 100+ active concurrent players of a monolith round to know WTF you're talking about and know how to react accordingly in your particular situations. Congratulations you're now a wiki lobbyist

[mild sun]

The biggest hurdle is the fragger brainlets that i want to say even nastier things about but cant

theyre ruining the entire project imo

they cant keep their gun in their pants

[spiral crater]

the fastest way to do this is setting up a PR for the actual company in loadouts and then a whitelist for people to apply

[silk cradle]

Trying to get this volume of people on the same page of you on anything is pointless, you have no information basis at all to begin with

[spiral crater]

thats something you ignore

[sonic trellis]

Actually I have a question
What kind of tiers are there
Like bronze insurance will get you and nothing else and if they experience any pushback they will leave you

Silver Insurance they will fight but if they start losing they will run away

Gold insurance they will fight even if they start losing ships but will not fight factions

Platinum Insurance will do anything to retrieve you I guess??

[spiral crater]

you need to officiate the faction more

[silk cradle]

im gonna go ping ark about a wiki again brb

[spiral crater]

rn its only visible as a thread

[sonic trellis]

Like how far will they go?

[mild sun]

We hadnt gotten that far since uh, no offense ivy, but ivy was taking a hot minute making the sprites

But your example is what i also had in mind

[sonic trellis]

Hey they were cooking kinda hard

[mild sun]

or maybe just 2 - 3 to make programming easier

[mild sun]

never said they werent!

[sonic trellis]

Hah

But I would be genuinely disappointed if I could easily take them on

Because having a threat going on at all times is what I'm looking for

Oh and definitely sprinkled with some advertisements for my assassination agency

[mild sun]

id rather t hey be strong, too

[torn crane]

Lore wise, I think the ATU having as good or better than faction starting gear can make sense if they don't get to research, so basically HMC puts heavy duty funding into the highly profitable ATU, but they don't increase in power as the shift progresses

My question then is, how do you keep people from shooting them for loot while having it make sense

Sure, you can make the armor way worse if worn by anyone else, but what's the explanation for that

And why don't other factions use the same tech

And like, how do you keep people from just hunting them all down as revenge for reviving an enemy?

I know of at least one player who will 1000% do that

[modern parcel]

ATU armor should be similarly balanced to merc/faction gear

Don’t make it obtainable DS gear

[burnt elm]

Mercs can get the Warlord and SCAF suit on spawn, so I think that it would be fine to give the ATU something just as powerful.

[dusk robin]

ATU should have shielded hardsuits, they are meant to be a whitelisted role after all

[burnt elm]

that would be cool

Would the ATU get access to the special gun list that the Mercs and civilians get?

[mild sun]

True!!

[mild sun]

I'd assume so?

Maybe?

[burnt elm]

It would allow them to get some nice guns while not giving them anything that a merc couldn't start with.

[mild sun]

Honestly, they don't need new guns, currently in-game ones are fine

Although, maybe an upgraded abielle could be cool

With better accuracy and magazine size

Something about medics with smart guns feels appropriate

[burnt elm]

would the ATU existing mean anything for the MD's safezone?

[spiral crater]

No

Theyre just

An extension

Of MD

Like a new dept.

MD remains a safezone

Think of them like

The insurance branch of public healthcare

[burnt elm]

makes sense

[mild sun]

Reminder: they will only rescue civs and will not shoot people at random, it is purely self defense or edge cases of patient defense

[dusk robin]

I do still think the only civ's limitations is fucking stupid

[sonic trellis]

Wait this doesn't include mercenaries?

If it doesn't include mercenaries..
Then what's the point???

[spiral crater]

civ = merc in this sense

civilian = broad term for unallied people

🔥

[mild sun]

take it up with the fraggers

they whined when we said ATU could revive factions

"what if im ussp trying to kill tsf, i want them dead, this is stupid"

etc etc

[mild sun]

mercenaries count as civs

surprisingly

[dusk robin]

Don't let the whiners influence what you wanna create. The ATU are an ultra capitalistic medical solution, it all comes down to who pays them more. If a gold member kills a copper member? They take the dead copper member away. Copper kills a gold? They kill the copper and prioritize revival of the gold. It's all a service they paid for but they know the risks of being on the wrong side of their policies too

[mild sun]

I agree with you, but id rather avoid headaches in future

make them X powerful on release, people whine and get it nerfed to Y strength

release it Y strength, not as many whiners, no nerf needed

im also trying to think of the hassle itll be for staff to sort out ahelps from fraggers

[dusk robin]

Personally I say make them at strength you feel is appropriate with a bit of give, make them about equivalent to mid tier faction gear

They should be a team moving to secure their objectives after all

And if some Fragger attacks them outta the blue they get shot by mins

[mild sun]

i feel like armour close or equal to tsf

with shields

they dont need crazy op guns

i think smgs like vectors is fine

but good pistols, like that one rare/admeme weapon (forgot which)

oktober spawned it for me before, forgot its name

keep the thermal and nv goggles effect on the armour like current old atu armour

These

maybe even an upgrade abielle

this rifle too

[little storm]

Limiting revivals to civilian roles alone defeats the point of ATU

They're supposed to secure the client regardless of who they are, the only thing they care about is if they're a client

[torn crane]

I can see problems with like, ASR going in for suicide attacks on Halc and making it so that ATU comes in and gets them to go again and again and again unless TSF says no, at which point TSF has to fight ATU

[spiral crater]

thats the fun part though

ATU is a paid merc reinforcement

thats their whole job

they go in and secure clientele

the prices mirror the risks

id imagine its at least a million for premium subscription

since the amount you pay determines the risk factor

factions would probably be the most expensive

considering its the most risky thing to be killed by

the whole "Risk = price" thing should be more transparent and it would probably convolude things alot less if people knew you had to pay a high penny to be secured in faction scenarios

[cyan sparrow]

factions should be allowed to attack the atu if they are hovering around where they shouldnt be tbh

[dusk robin]

I mean. They shouldn't be shooting the ATU first in most cases.

[cyan sparrow]

if theyre given good gear theyre dangerous enough to be a valid target especially if its a situation after a ship battle and there are corpses floating around

[dusk robin]

Yes but by the same token, ATU is likely to be instructed to use minimal force necessary. Gold member died in a massive ship battle that's still ongoing? They come in guns blazing to try and recover them. Copper died to pirates? They order the pirates to back off or be slaughtered. Etc etc

[cyan sparrow]

the best way to solve something like this is either mechanically or in character instead of tacking more rules on top

[burnt elm]

So with the ATU being part of MD is the DOC their boss?

[dusk robin]

Yeh

[sonic trellis]

I mean the tsf declares no fly zone around a syndicate armory drop

A civilian flies by with a premium insurance and they get shot dead ATU shows up and they cannot enter the no fly zone

Without engaging

[burnt elm]

Could the ATU be given a stealth equipment?

[sonic trellis]

Iff console

[burnt elm]

They get a single stealth suit

Oh, how will the ATU track clients?

[dusk robin]

Probably special implants and pinpointers if I had to guess

[burnt elm]

How easy is it going to be to make it so a member is unfindable?

[sonic trellis]

It would be pretty nice if it was a PDA program
That I could steal so I can counter revive
People and steal the bounty from the ATU

[burnt elm]

Also how dead is too dead? If a person gets gibbed in ship combat does the ATU try to borg them?

Cloning is an option

[sonic trellis]

The brain should be able to fully clone people

Considering that the brain is plenty enough DNA to fully replicate a person

[spiral crater]

the ATU have their own boss

DOC is just the MD's head

the ATU have a captain of sorts

they are entirely independant as a dept.

same with MD

and DOC

[spiral crater]

well

thats determined by the loyalties you purchase

i imagine

again, the more you pay, the more ATU will provide

and the captain themselves probably determine the exact range of services and risk factors involved

[torn crane]

I imagine that could be solved relatively easily IC, it would pay for TSF and other factions to have a cordial relationship with ATU, so ATU could just ask, and TSF might say yes, or might grab the body and give it to ATU. Presumably ATU just gets you up, they have no obligation to get you your shit back

[spiral crater]

people love to think that problems cant be spoken peer to peer ingame like the entire design isnt roleplay focused lmao

valid arguments tho

[torn crane]

@spiral crater I believe previously the discussion was that different levels would determine your priority for retrieval; were you thinking of changing that to level of risk ATU is obligated to take to get you back? That seemed like what you were implying in the previous conversations

[spiral crater]

thats how it was explained to me

the more money you pay them = the more risk they take to retrieve you

[weary wharf]

This is still in development?

We kinda abandoned it

[quick flower]

some ideas you put into the world live on in the hearts of listioners far after you've forgotten. it's been adopted, id say

[weary wharf]

But not funded like we intended

I'm still willing to fund it though

But who would pick up the pieces?

[mild sun]

I pinged you about this before

I guess you forgot or missed it

Ivy is willing to help again

I can update my MD map to update the ATU wing once they're official

Ark personally endorsed the project

Greenwall seemed to be ok with making 1 MODsuit for the ATU, but doesn't know how to program armour values

@weary wharf

I can also make another ship for them

There's alot of small minor things and coding required for the ATU

[weary wharf]

Oooo glad to see it's still alive

[misty charm]

jester (retired staff) made it, wynn is just excited

[misty charm]

tbh fraggers are indeed just .malding over the fact they can't have the loot from a job without actually doing that job

[misty charm]

👁️

[misty charm]

I've gotten sprites for specialized guns, basically the same guns but re sprited to fit them

[misty charm]

tbh for what I've seen i like the idea of making them OP by round start and slowly become worse as the shift ends since people get better tools, thet can still upgrade tho

[dusk robin]

That's why I said make them mid tier faction to start

[misty charm]

yknow the goob BSO tracker? the 5g consumes

[misty charm]

yeah so basically ATU has the team that follows the commander and the commander follows DOC

[misty charm]

me, I'm still working on it

guh i typed a lot

[misty charm]

yeah exactly

albeit this project is after i finish the stonks system

[mild sun]

Can I see?

[mild sun]

Sorry, bestie

[mild sun]

I feel like, if the ATU really is about a week away

we need to make an EXTREMELY detailed ruleset and Q&A

because theres so many little shits trying to find loopholees and powergame/metagame killing the atu or baiting them

and lots of poeple STILL dont understand their role

@misty charm

[weary wharf]

Because its mono ngl

This was always bound to happen

I'm still inclined on having death acidifiers

Just to spite people who go for loot

[mild sun]

agreed

Shits annoying

may need to make the armour like asakkim

cant remove it, takes forever to put on

different stats obviously

[weary wharf]

Mhm

[quick flower]

unfortunately mechincal enforcement will alwayse be king over rules enforcement. rules decay player agency and increase admin workload. sometimes this is neccisssry for overall enjoyment of the community, but its best, when possible, to incentivise and create a basis that your vision makes the most sense into.
If people are willing to wage war and kill ATU, that means two things
1: health care is not important, or valued enough, for their existence to begin with. the fix to this would be outside of their implementation and would be changing the worled itself that makes their service valuabke enough to decentivise slaughter.

2: if they need to exist without being too valuable to slaughter, they need to be able to defend themself agsinst all but overwhelming force. this is a catch 20-2, as the stronger they are, the more incentive their is to fight them ironically. This is something that would be solved by making what they have, and offer, unobtainible or not worth the effort required. or another solution. More power, also means more incentive for bad actors. a possible solution is bluespace lifelines and bio-chipped equipment, while also having ATU not have bank accounts. no incentive to kill for gear (mostly) and reduced incentive for people not fully interested in the role itself. possibely

[little storm]

The biggest way to make ATU serve a purpose is to make death carry weight

it must cost you more to die and come back than to pay for insurance

[misty charm]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-zoro-kuma-true-morgan-freeman-gif-17367158845092369444

[mild sun]

True

[zealous pasture]

there is also another major problem with ATU

if its going to exist beside the regular MD with emergency responders who mostly treat people for free or works with tips no one really will want to pay ATU to save them from a space carp they died to

i mean if ATU covers the revival of factions members unlike MD they can serve an actual purpose but faction wars are brutal and usually you just get gibbed to ship weapon fires not even mentioning that some faction players will oppose there being a third party to revive their kills

so you are only left as a brain floating in space and not only that but your gear would already be looted untill the ATU comes to pick your brain from space even if they can track it

so why not just respawn

[misty charm]

nerf respawning

i'm tired of fraggers dying and coming back as john fragger jr

[olive gale]

ok ermmmm

i disagree!

WL players are already expected to RP and officiating it into a ruleset would just

hurt roleplay capability

[olive gale]

30. minute. respawns.

[mild sun]

It's for OTHER people so they understand what the fuck the ATU are lmao

[mild sun]

Trvth nvke

Make it 20 minutes again, people may whine about 30 mins

[olive gale]

guidebook entry is right there

[mild sun]

We both know fraggers and shitters don't read that

[olive gale]

make an ATU cadet role that people can opt into if they have no ER Playtime but have enough general playtime to access it

[mild sun]

Alot of people here, unfortunately, don't care about the lorr

[olive gale]

dude if youre gonna make it have a lot of rules nobodys gonna play it

because they dont wanna get admin'd

[mild sun]

That's just emergency responder with a different name

[olive gale]

you get to go... on ATU missions?

and you spawn

with a guidebook!!

[mild sun]

Rules for non ATU to avoid people being shitters

[olive gale]

??

???????????????????????

[mild sun]

We need to write something that shutters are forced to read

I want to avoid unnecessary ahelps by idiots

[olive gale]

crooooooooooooooo

i am not on board

at all

[mild sun]

And people thinking ATU are purely a power fantasy/fragger role

PEOPLE ARE STUPID, MAN

[olive gale]

NADA!!

it fucking

kills roleplay

[misty charm]

starch the original main maintainer literally admited to not read and purposefully ignore lore so y'know

kek

[olive gale]

youre just gutting roleplay

youre frontierslopping the rules

[mild sun]

Im well aware

They subtly changed rules to make it a Fragger server

[olive gale]

hugbox is bad

[mild sun]

Oh my god the rules aren't for the ATU

[olive gale]

conflict creates roleplay

[mild sun]

Let me rephrase;

[olive gale]

YES

I AM TALKING

GENERAL RULES

😭

[misty charm]

ATU IS NOT SUPPOSED TO FRAG THEY'RE LITERALLY MOTIVATED TO AVOID ANY COLLATERAL DAMAGE BUT IF SOMEONEO TRIES TO ATTACK THEM THEY'LL JUST DROP THE SUN ON THEM TWICE

abnywayys

[mild sun]

A primer for people who don't understand what purpose the ATU serve

[misty charm]

https://tenor.com/view/they-dropped-the-sun-on-us-twice-russianbadger-gif-8637664346629155745

[mild sun]

Ive said this tons of times but people still whine like little children

[olive gale]

hey i know that youtuber

[misty charm]

https://tenor.com/view/the-russian-badger-i-don't-believe-in-human-rights-phonk-gif-3344808329146668880

[olive gale]

just ignore them and ahelp the atu who cant maintain the roleplay standard LOL

[mild sun]

I literally said this and I got accused of adding a power fantasy power tripper Fragger faction

[olive gale]

im gonna be executing my soldiers if they cant fucking keep their guns safety on for one second

[mild sun]

People are fucking stupid

If I see an atu breaking rules, I'm snitching immediately with screenshots

I will hrp the fuck out of ATU

[misty charm]

THE PEOPLE WHO MALD ARE THE FRAGGERS WHO WANT TO KOS ATU FOR THEIR LOOT AT MINUTE 15 AND CAN'T FOLLOW A "5 STEPS BACK" ORDER WITHOUT HAVING THEIR FEELINGS BROKEN

[mild sun]

I fully agree

[olive gale]

Wow you hurt my feelings. im fragging you

this argument got me so annoyed i went back to ragebait 💔

[mild sun]

I feel like a primer is needed either way, because people are fucking idiots

[olive gale]

I personally dont think it is

when youre stepping into ATU you go ask your CO!!

what your duty is

larp as a cadet or some shit

[mild sun]

For some reason, some people still think it's fragslop company that kills people whenever they want, no matter how many times I explain @misty charm

[olive gale]

this should be the primer.

'go talk to your COMMANDING OFFICER YOU FUCKING MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' - Wise Sage Dr. Morgan Wynn M.D.

[misty charm]

me when i'm a balatro/genshin impact/

[mild sun]

Dude, the primer isn't for the ATU

The ATU is going to be a white listed role, there's already expectations

I want a huge as fuck disclaimer shoved into idiots faces, so if they get killed by the ATU for stupid bullshit, they have 0 defense

[misty charm]

based, basically ATU has the operations team leaded by a commander, they guide the newbies and order the team around, while the commander follows the DoC and CL orders (until CL is fragged out of the face of the sector because it's frontier slop)

[mild sun]

"ATU shot me after I tried gibbing their patient for no reason!!!"

"ATU shot me after they gave me 3 warnings to back away from the patient!!!! Lrp fragslop!!!!"

There's so many Genuine sociopaths in this server, man

[olive gale]

dont shit on CL... i have 3 hours on it pal.

[mild sun]

And manchildren who can't handle being told basic instructions

[olive gale]

also IDK if theyre removing CL

new station and allat

and if theres no CL theres nobody to manage accesses and allat

[misty charm]

don't shit on us CL fans we have 10 hours on total and we can't do anything because no one is at CO

also like

wait i'll bring it to general so we can see people thoughts

[mild sun]

I don't like being rude, contrary to popular belief

It Jesus Christ some point here

Actively try and poke holes to find loopholes to kill ATU for no reason

Or complain about situations that will literally never happen

Or situations that aren't the atus fault

"what if the person I killed gets revived by the ATU and hunts me down?"

Not out problem, ahelp it since they're breaking nlr

[olive gale]

Dude. this literally wont change a thing

let them mald

you do not need to iron out rules to 'get them back'

if they mald they mald who gaf

[mild sun]

I'm trying to avoid pointless ahelps

I guess fuck it if they refuse to listen or understand, after it's been explained countless times

Skill issue I guess

Just know, people will whine and bitch and ask them to be removed

Even if we have clear information about them

Or they get killed by atu in completely valid reasons

😔

Alright, onto more constructive things than people not understand the ATU for the gorillianth time

@misty charm please let me know when all the misc sprites and armour sprites are done

I'll need to overhaul the ATU wing at MD to add it all

We may need to add a Ship voucher for the ATU flagship, and only allow it to be bought with 3 or more ATU + Captain

[sonic trellis]

I want ATU to make no fly zones it would genuinely make them so much better

Because the point of the ATU is to be a premium service
And it's not very premium if you're brought back to MD even though they could have just revived you then and there

[misty charm]

https://tenor.com/view/landing-cyberpunk2077-trauma-team-first-person-gameplay-gif-26400333

true but then fraggers

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1168210011823026274/1376553105897820223/Emu_13_prsk.gif

[sonic trellis]

I mean just shoot them?
Retaliate with your own ship fire??
It's either the person who killed the other person takes the loot
And pisses off or has something important that is needed for reviving that person

And having no fly zones would stop people from just immediately looting them I do think so.

[misty charm]

true, basically they can just heal you up, if the zone is TOO dangerous, like actively fighting in more people that is unrelated to the dead body they can just heal them in the ship then drop them off somewhere

[sonic trellis]

Also if you're just revived..
Do you just lose your insurance?
Like over something stupid?
Actually another question what if someone dies on your ship filled with people and then ATU boards what will they do?

[misty charm]

basically, insurance is held for the whole shift in exchange of having a 5 minute delay between deaths, so if you die as soon as ATU leaves and considers the whole zone clear (healed you gave you some fuel and got most of your stuff back) and you go into a whole ass fight again then you'll have to wait 5 more minutes to be revived (main idea for now it's very probable it'll change) and if someone dies dies on a ship ATU will board your ass, they'll say "5 steps back" grab the body heal them and moost probably return them to their original ship if not the nearest station, if they fight back you'll get your ass jumped by like 5 operatives

ideas are still very much so welcome

[sonic trellis]

Oh that's actually a cool interaction
I'm just trying to heal my crewmate and suddenly they boarded us and are demanding that I stop healing and reviving them so they can do it

[misty charm]

they really don't care who you are, they'll patch their client up to 100 health and leave

that's literally their whole job

arrive stop problem if any heal then leave

[sonic trellis]

God expeditions really need a way to be invaded.

[misty charm]

i am thinking about it to see codes

yes i am adding hellpods eventually

[green sentinel]

trauma team my beloved

[fleet viper]

https://tenor.com/view/odst-halo-3-halo-3-odst-halo-odst-deploy-gif-8938608286900364109

[mild sun]

People would whine and shit their pants and add break the nfz and AHELP being shot at even though it's a nfz

Happens already with Tsf

The biggest hurdle the ATU has, is illiterate people and fraggers

[sonic trellis]

So does basically everything else in the server
The ATU isn't special
And it probably won't even increase the amount of ahelps
In the long run

I mean people will complain at first because it's a new mechanic new faction people are going to fumble but they will get used to it

[mild sun]

People WILL whine, even if things are done correctly and no rules are broken by atu, because some dumb fuck ignore them and their instructions

Yes, the ATU isn't special, but people keep kicking up a fuss about them and acting like they'll go on killing sprees and shoot you for looking at them funny

No matter how many times we explain it, it doesn't sink in

We may just stop listening and carry on

[sonic trellis]

Why haven't you?

[mild sun]

Because I'm stubborn