General Discussion

[echo hollow]

i have formed concepts that i wish to add to that

oh yeah with help of @south sapphire

[south sapphire]

👋

[vivid chasm]

@toxic gyro @mellow crown hey gamers. Pinged both of you because I'm thinking of making custom built thrusters but I'd need another company to make them canonically, be it SHM or DME. Ideally they just use a lot more power in exchange for slightly better propulsion.

Something maybe among the lines of x3 power consumption for x1.5/x2 the thrust power

@tropic rock say who do I hit up regarding some snazzy lore related event ideas ?

[tropic rock]

Myself, or anyone else tbh

[vivid chasm]

k k

[mellow crown]

Don't think that really fits DME, I think there was some engineering related company?

[vivid chasm]

SHM it would be

maybe a mix of SHM and HE

@tropic rock hitting you up because you're online, you up to discuss Drake Industries lore a bit ?

[tropic rock]

Yuh

[vivid chasm]

alright so

Simply regarding the company profits

can we say it's measured in billions or not ?

From game experience 20 minute of bulk cargo is 500K profit with a single olympus (the main haulers of the DIS) and since it's the main ship a core company we could expect it to have at least like, let's be gentle, 10-20 of them (because they're massive)

and that's not taking account the rest of the profit from refining + contracting and selling hulls to affiliated members

I need to know if we can say it's wealthy canonically so I can adjust the looks and level of luxury of the stuff it gets namely the future POI I'm planning on

[tropic rock]

Hm

[vivid chasm]

though of course it's kind of hard to put in considering none of the other companies have official profits made y'know ?

even factions.

[tropic rock]

I think jt would be fair to assume companies hit the billions, considering revenue hits the millions each 8 hour shift

[vivid chasm]

Sounds fair enough
All of them ?

[tropic rock]

The successful ones at least

[vivid chasm]

I see

so core companies guaranteed

minor ones eh not sure (do we even have any minor ones ?)

major like DME likely

[tropic rock]

It further cements the idea that coming to the Colossus Sector with 75k is like a broke college kid trying to make it past sophomore year

[vivid chasm]

yeah

and I mean tbf our balance around money making is all over the place

in the mean time we have to deal with that

[toxic gyro]

SHM could canonically make more advanced thrusters

Do you want them in-game or something?

@vivid chasm

[vivid chasm]

I could make them meself

just y'know

I need someone to pin it to

maybe it could be made into a partnership deal with HE since it's boost would come from something like idk epic gas mix or something

ideally it only fits large cargo ships since y'know it's very power hungry

so AME type stuff works

though if you want to code it and sprite it yourself by all means, since it'd be linked to your company

[toxic gyro]

I’m fine if you do it, working on some other things right now

Thanks for asking though

[vivid chasm]

you got it

[toxic gyro]

As in, asking about SHM partnership stuff

[vivid chasm]

yeah

thrusters we comissioned by DI to SHM

[toxic gyro]

I’m not too proactive in the lore right now because I’m just adding content to the game

[vivid chasm]

ik dawg

I'm doing a mix of both

I got the drip in and shipset is done fully

what I need to do now is add doors, headsets & roles for the POI

[light bone]

oh you're making a whole ass POI for DI?

that's sick

[vivid chasm]

for the roles, some restricted ship models likely and just sovl

[vivid chasm]

@cloud oyster yo you up to discuss some company stuff in a bit ?

[cloud oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-oil-gif-19265348

[vivid chasm]

Alright so

I was gaming and one of your Zealots attacked a DI affiliated ship

could you give me a run down on the Zealot's attitude towards other regular companies and namely DI

to see if we could maybe cook up some hostilities

[vivid chasm]

@tropic rock @velvet gorge can one of you give me a list of the current companies and their status, Core, Major, Minor

I'm going to reorder the company file

[vivid chasm]

so far I've done

Core:
SHM
DI
HME

Major:
DME
AD

Minor:
UNSA
CDM

religious groups:

Zealot
cult of machine god

[vivid chasm]

https://github.com/Monolith-Station/Monolith/pull/1392 @tropic rock @velvet gorge the PR is up need you guys to troubleshoot and verif this part

also if like

any company needs to be added tell me now since the PR is up 🚬

[velvet gorge]

MACo is part of the core companies.

[vivid chasm]

well it's not in game yet

so

I'll need to add it in the PR

(give me desc, hex color and optionally symbol)

otherwise won't be mentionned in it since it's just how I ordered for the current, present companies

@worldly dome your company has been approved and there is currently an open PR I'm running adding sa many companies as possible.

if you want it to be added in game without having to do it yourself, give me:

Company color hexcode (must be different from the other current companies)
Company summary similar to the ones of other companies in game.

(Optional) logo of the company in a png format, 500x500 size.

[worldly dome]

Gonna be a whilr before I can send anything. At work rn

[vivid chasm]

no pressure the PR is up and waiting.

@leaden sluice your company has been approved and there is currently an open PR I'm running adding sa many companies as possible.

if you want it to be added in game without having to do it yourself, give me:
Company color hexcode (must be different from the other current companies)
Company summary similar to the ones of other companies in game.

(Optional) logo of the company in a png format, 500x500 size.

https://discord.com/channels/1329292619834069034/1388523676135063623

[worldly dome]

Sent you a FR. I got some logos in my phone I forgot I had

[vivid chasm]

@velvet gorge btw available/want to toss me over the necessities for MACo anytime soon or no ?

[toxic gyro]

What’s MACo?

I’ve been hearing about it recently but haven’t seen a thread yet

[velvet gorge]

#1389417058118402169

The image is in there alongside a description

As for a colour?

Gimme one moment

#ff2e2e

[vivid chasm]

can you give me a compact version of company summary for in game

y'know a bit of everything part lore part what they do 'n shit

[velvet gorge]

Use the purpose subsection

Since that's essentially what Midnight is all about

[vivid chasm]

sure

alr done thank you

[worthy pivot]

@vivid chasm can you add my faction too

its called marinecord

color greem

[vivid chasm]

sorry nerd only real larpers allowed 🚬

[vivid chasm]

I gotta say

the trinity of logistics company

is looking absolutely fucking fire

oh and by the way @tropic rock HE canonically mines some of the prismatic (gay) plasma from the monolith so yeah that's pretty peak

[velvet gorge]

The Monolith is homosexual? Peak.

[vivid chasm]

you MADE THAT LORE

YOU KNEW

[velvet gorge]

[vivid chasm]

This will be in a separate PR very likely

btw jester

I'm just saying but like

🚬

we got two capital ships

for storage and gas storage

that could be some pretty peak involve all event potential

juuust saying...

as y'know
loot zones

for
y'know
evil stuff

that could
y'know
be canon

that could
y'know
be guarded by ADS

[velvet gorge]

We'll see

I've done a lot of events today so taking it easy

[vivid chasm]

oh yeah

btw dude

[velvet gorge]

I'm also still gauging community opinions

[vivid chasm]

that john wick bounty stuff ?

it was peak

[velvet gorge]

Thanks!

Could be better though

[vivid chasm]

not sure why the moment agent something

popped up

people started shit talking

broadband issue

[velvet gorge]

Needs some work for sure

Regardless

More lore related events to come

[vivid chasm]

btw I'm thinking silly thing but like

we're starting to have so many companies

an easy replacement for one of the POIs would be a company lodge

If, and I do mean if we aren't doing company sets integrated in some POIs

(like DI having a stand at trade mall, PMCs at exped lodge etc etc)

[boreal helm]

A

[boreal helm]

Bluespace ore deposit guarded by 3 adsrs

[vivid chasm]

evil cargo in a crashed olympus guarded by a bunch of ADSes

looters want it factions want the kill scientist want the anomalous stuff bounty hunters want the cash

what is there not to love about a unique artifact valued in the billions

[boreal helm]

Crashed ads mothership with anchorable guns that are normally unanchorable? 👀

(So like, charons, missles, emps, dymeres, and some other antique guns)

*defended by the strongest possible ads ships, with a law 0 to not damage the mothership

[vivid chasm]

@toxic gyro I've done the big think and had an amazing idea

You know how DI and SHM got a deal currently with SHM providing some of the hulls from the design of the DIS

In the far future when DI gets it's own POI and roles, the current DIS ships will be restricted to DI and civilian versions without things such as:
-DI gear (namely armor, lockers, hardsuits)
-DI unique thrusters (the one I told you about a while back)

And THESE will be under the DIS-SHM tag available at CO

then that deal will be SHM makes civilian versions of the DIS ships for mutual profit by simply selling those hulls to freelancers

[south sapphire]

hey is #1393000814410465321 too general/ "not exceptional" to be accepted? i dunno if its good enough to meet the standard of the server

[toxic gyro]

Love it

[vivid chasm]

Oh and yeah when I ultimately code the engines we'll make it a sick SHM-HE colab per commissions of DI or something

[toxic gyro]

SHM shipyard will probably increase demand of materials when it gets added

[proven vortex]

Can we have the viper company back please

[toxic gyro]

I'll also see about making ships that encourage collaboration with other logistics companys

[vivid chasm]

Y'know I also thought of the possibility of making a mega POI regrouping most logistics & brute companies buuuut..

🚬

we'd loose two potential POIs with this so y'know

[toxic gyro]

True... thats a good idea actually

It would help with POI bloat

[vivid chasm]

well thing is I'm thinking

The goal is to ultimately remove all frontier POIs

right ?

[toxic gyro]

No clue

[vivid chasm]

and swap them with our canon interesting POI

bear with me now

what are POIs used for

[toxic gyro]

I think its just that Frontier POIs are either cringe or not well made

[vivid chasm]

smuggling papers
unique stuff

and frontier POIs

their lore POIs

are only used for one thing

and that is smuggling paper searching

[toxic gyro]

true

[vivid chasm]

so we replace those with good POIs that are canon to the lore, yes ?

company ones, etc etc

and the thing is that

while a POI of DI + SHM + HE would be cool and based

gameplay wise

having one place to sell goods, gases, buy good ships etc

a one do all

kinda of sucks when you think about it

it would be logical in lore though.

so yeah like

if we do this POI

it will, possibly become a super center

oh and also @tropic rock just letting you know but while the Ashen Republic is fire lore wise no one knows about it IC some in game integration could be good

[proven vortex]

<@&1387975740192198827> Can i get a little help naming this piece of armor? Will be used by mercs, how should be named and if you can cook any lore for it

[vivid chasm]

toss over the stats and way to access it also by who it's made

who made it might give it a different name

stats might make it sound rougher/tankier

etc etc

[proven vortex]

Well Warlord made it for mercs

The sprite

[vivid chasm]

Warlord

what's/who's warlord ?

company ?

[proven vortex]

@rose skiff

[vivid chasm]

right okay so he got more info about it

[rose skiff]

I was thinking just a merc hardsuit after working with some mech pilots.

I figured it needs to look remotely military and not some lone operator getup or too fancy.

[proven vortex]

Mmm

So a mech pilot suit?

[rose skiff]

If anything, I'd imagine armor surplus from planetside warfare.

[proven vortex]

It looks tanky

Maybe a armor used by veteran mercenaries

It deserves a cool name too

[vivid chasm]

@rose skiff you got any thoughts behind who made it ?

[proven vortex]

Warlord...

[vivid chasm]

also what stats

Warlord pattern armor fits tbf.

[proven vortex]

Warlord as a suit name...

Sounds cool

Dope as hell

[vivid chasm]

does it fit it's stats and origin/maker

that's the real question

[proven vortex]

Well i was the one that added it

rn the stats are just the same as the merc hardsuit

[vivid chasm]

in game maker mind you

right

well I mean if it's a resprited merc hardsuit fuck it ngl

[rose skiff]

IF not Warlord, Hunter.

Because my actual main character is one with a surname Hunter.

[proven vortex]

We can add cool shit

[rose skiff]

Or it can just replace some pre-existing thing you might not like.

But that is like, bulky. It has neck guard and all.

[proven vortex]

Night vision is too much for mercs?

[vivid chasm]

I think it should be separate

ngl

only suits with integrated NVGs are like viper elite suits

[proven vortex]

Fair fair

[vivid chasm]

balance wise yeah

unless you make the suit rare

which could work

[vivid chasm]

I mean it looks peak

[proven vortex]

I could try to add

A integrated grapling gun

[rose skiff]

It really covers the head even without the helmet.

[proven vortex]

Would be cool

[vivid chasm]

neck at least

the armor slaps ngl

it's got very light shading

but hey

if it fits in game

it fits

[proven vortex]

Or a basic mass scanner

[vivid chasm]

what are cool things you want in space

and could fit in a military suit

made for combat

I mean the basic answers are what

med hud

flash prot ?

eh, not sure.

[proven vortex]

mmm

med hud feel too meta ish

[vivid chasm]

yeah I get it ngl

a mass scanner would be great

if it got like

a nice looking pad on one of the wrist y'know

[tropic rock]

Just got confirmation on the wiki a few days ago

[proven vortex]

Mmm

[vivid chasm]

I'll take it as in game integrations are coming.

[rose skiff]

Tbh I think way too many sprites are WAY too dark.

[vivid chasm]

it really depends what you're looking at

personally I'm going with the basis of the spationaut suit

looks good and not too out of place imo

it's got a decently large array of shading

I'll be honest if your suit just fits in game fuck it y'know

we use a lot of different sprite works in this repo anyways

[rose skiff]

I mean here is an example.

This is what a space ninja wears.

It's light. Very light, actually.

[vivid chasm]

not too too bad imo

[rose skiff]

It is not too bad at all!

It's great!

[vivid chasm]

issue comes to comparing it other stuff

[rose skiff]

But we most times perceive it dark in game and assume it's just really dark by default.

Then we have stuff like the SCAF.

[vivid chasm]

I'll be honest it really depends on the palette you're playing with too

[rose skiff]

This is NOT going to work out.

[vivid chasm]

eh

not too bad

like

[rose skiff]

Most times you don't even see the fact that there are plates at the thighs.

That's the SCAF suit.

[vivid chasm]

when I made the DI locker

that shit was just way too bright

I followed the regular color pattern y'know

but just like

rose gold ? too fkin bright

[rose skiff]

Tone down the saturation, maybe.

It can be muted.

[vivid chasm]

had to redo a palette so it was less aggressive to the eye

I went around it dw

it's cool now

[rose skiff]

Wanna know where I even got the color from?

Just pre-existing armor pieces. Vanilla as can get.

[vivid chasm]

fair

wish I could do that

I mean

for the DI clothing set the black tone ?

I snagged it from the jackboots

(I love the look of the jackboots)

it's super bright for black shoes but they just look peak

[rose skiff]

The jackboots are genuinely good.

[vivid chasm]

oh yeah

[rose skiff]

I mean, not really!

[vivid chasm]

I mean

[rose skiff]

It is a good way to represent black!

It's uniform dark tone.

[vivid chasm]

look just

[rose skiff]

Not necessarily just 0, 0, 0.

And if you have to represent like, strong blacks.

Use very dark blues.

[vivid chasm]

DI backpack set

it's just jaack boot palettes onto the salvage things

it's very very hard shaded but it works like a charm

[proven vortex]

it looks clean

[vivid chasm]

yeah

it's in game

[proven vortex]

neat

[vivid chasm]

I'm just the only one using them because it's expensive or people don't find it

[rose skiff]

Another good example of how to do a dark sprite.

It's not just a black blob.

[echo hollow]

nah its cheaper a set than salv gear im pretty sure lmao

at least the belt slot

[boreal helm]

Nvg/thermals makes sense

Mercs fight in conditions ehere they benefit from that.

They do dark or dim expeds.

[echo hollow]

medhus appear in the dark

budget thermals

lol

[boreal helm]

thats a bit metagameish

[echo hollow]

i mean not really

its a mechanic

not a knowledge

and im sure youve squinted in the dark before to see whats in it

thats what i conisider right clicking

[leaden sluice]

HEX: #5b358c
"Renowned in other sectors for their cutting edge technology and advancements, Nosske-Eien had began branching out and dipping their toes in the Rogue sector by contracting local workforce, be it regular civilians, pilots or mercenaries, for the research regarding the local xenoarchaeology, xenobiology and technological advancements. Nosske-Eien has been the primary source for the recent science technological advancements and equipment, as well as high-tech asteroid mining equipment and soon, shuttlecraft. Though, there are rumours of their contractors randomly disappearing from time to time, let's hope it's just a ruse and nothing to worry about, huh?"

there we go

[boreal helm]

Rnd?

I hate rnd

I love manufacturing not soynd

[worthy pivot]

@velvet gorge

need your input on this one

idk if theres anything resembling it inlore

after the corpo war, the syndicate got dissolved and remnants were thrown around the galaxy

the ones who gathered at the colossus sector formed up a company and allied themselves with the ashen republic

the company would just be a syndicate-focused rogue group

im still thinking about what their gimmick would be

maybe make it so LPB is theirs inlore

[tropic rock]

Dude I’ve written so much shit for the Ashen Republic

I gotta make ts public

[boreal helm]

So its them who keep buying 879 svallins ( Product quality guaranteed from Drake Industries™ ) when we put em on the open market?

[worthy pivot]

perhaps.

[proven vortex]

Which description is better?

i think this one is pretty good

[rose skiff]

I'd say the first one on the virtue it states to be able to withstand, and not specifically for space combat.

[proven vortex]

Alright

I added to the helmet flash protection and radar

i plan in the future maybe give it some Kino but i think is fine adding it like this now

[leaden sluice]

"A former state-of-the-art technology in military equipment, now widespread among the mercenaries and black markets due to its schematics being revealed to the public, the warlord combat suit has been modified to withstand space depressurized atmosphere, rating it space capable"

probably

[proven vortex]

Neat am using this

[echo hollow]

this

this is perfect

bc the syndicate is stated to be involved with the ASR

bc they fragmented after the wars

it would also be a cool way to utilize the LPB

in some way

a minor way but still a nod to the ASR lore

[gilded spear]

PEAK

also ive thought of something

what if when we mine prismatic plasma in game, everydeposit would be like a small horde defense mode

once you start extracting, the asteroid/planet just spawns waves of mobs to kill you

with the size of the deposit dictating the difficulty of the waves

[south sapphire]

gas mining isnt paid enough as is

why make it harder

[vivid chasm]

make it pay more

[gilded spear]

yeah but prismatic plasma is special in lore, and would most likely cost more than frezon per mol

[south sapphire]

why are you telling me

[gilded spear]

a whole cannister of the stuff can sell for 100k probably

[south sapphire]

do i look like a coder

[vivid chasm]

sayin in general

if you make soemthing harder make it more worthwhile

[south sapphire]

true

[vivid chasm]

https://github.com/Monolith-Station/Monolith/pull/1392 @leaden sluice @timber trail @velvet gorge @worldly dome @gilded spear

UI and NE-RD have very similar colors btw I'll let you two figure this out

[leaden sluice]

#9573af

should be brighter shade

[gilded spear]

SO PEAK

AAAAAAAAAAA

[south sapphire]

@tropic rock Sweet thanks

Now time to quick PR

[tropic rock]

You can make a thread here for discussion

[south sapphire]

Will do!

[vivid chasm]

@toxic gyro I didn't see you had made an SHM banner it's sick as FUUCK
Meant to be wallmount ?

[timber trail]

I want one...

[vivid chasm]

make one sire

[toxic gyro]

nah

its like the normal ones (tsf, colored, etc)

I'm waiting on the CO remap to be done / me joining the CO remap to add more SHM content

[south sapphire]

il do it for 130usd commmision

[toxic gyro]

but what would it be for anyway

[vivid chasm]

kk

[vivid chasm]

cult of the machine god got accepted so like

more props for it in game

which y'know

if it could be mapped

[toxic gyro]

true

ah he made the machine god cult?

yeah no clue how to art that lol

also shipyard console for SHM (right side is normal)

[vivid chasm]

peak

what's the plan with it ?

[toxic gyro]

employee specific ships

for engineering, ship construction/repair, etc

it'll go with a wing of the POI station for SHM affiliates for custom ship construction, equipment, etc

[south sapphire]

hey

i have an engineerign ship design

never seen before

[toxic gyro]

what is it?

[toxic gyro]

do you have media for it?

[south sapphire]

uh no

[vivid chasm]

sweet

[south sapphire]

but load it in

[vivid chasm]

I forgot I'll need one like that too

ough

[south sapphire]

its sleek

from what i remember

small engi ship

[toxic gyro]

okay

[south sapphire]

it was my second ship

so it might be ass

but easy to fix

[toxic gyro]

k

[vivid chasm]

@toxic gyro say by chance would you be fine to add a DI shipyard console while you're at it ? my current workload scope is huge and it'd help me a ton

just resprite and bit of yaml with no ships added to it I can handle that part

[toxic gyro]

sure

[vivid chasm]

color is #CD6B6B

[toxic gyro]

what palette do you want?

[vivid chasm]

work off that color

and do what works

[toxic gyro]

alright cool

[vivid chasm]

if it has a red tint it's fine

[toxic gyro]

I'll try it out

[vivid chasm]

just needn't be too red y'know

[toxic gyro]

ofc

do you want me to add it with my PR or do you just want the sprites for yourself?

as in for any PR you're making

[vivid chasm]

slap it in your PR it's cool

not sure how you handle IDs but if you could slap DrakeIndustries somewhere it'd be swell, most if not all DI related items have it in their ID so I can track'em easy

[toxic gyro]

I'll see what I can do

[toxic gyro]

whar

[vivid chasm]

cheers

[toxic gyro]

"that'll be 5 morbillion USD "

[south sapphire]

second ship

[vivid chasm]

I'll explode

[south sapphire]

wait can i see what it looks like

i forgogt

[toxic gyro]

I exited out

*screams!

@vivid chasm

what do you want here?

[vivid chasm]

up to you I'll likely change it to fit the flavor of the other DI items later

so nothing or whatever you want really

[toxic gyro]

Spritework is done, need to check it in-game still but I’ll have to do that later

[vivid chasm]

@leaden sluice would NE-RD manufacture encryption key as part of their business

[leaden sluice]

not really

[vivid chasm]

What do they do again ?

[cloud oyster]

What’s your character? What ship were you running? What was your crew? What was the last thing you did?

Zealots are meant to be volatile. Multiple things can set them off

[vivid chasm]

Wasn't me was some DIS rig doing a salvage operation

I think they had an IPC onboard

Not saying they were in the wrong just yknow

[cloud oyster]

That will do it.

[leaden sluice]

science, research, selling bunch o' science gear

precision mining laser

(not in sector ones); laser weapons, combat modsuits, dedicated science shuttles, shuttle shields

(unheard to public/lower company echelon); experimental arsenal tech, bio-chemical/genetic weapon

(only known to nosske and few executives); genetically modified kill teams

i'll probably write more lore tidbit in the company page when i get the time

[worldly dome]

So this is just a 2nd evil research company

[leaden sluice]

perchance

[worldly dome]

:^|

[leaden sluice]

they only sell good stuff to the public while evil schmevil things are outside rogue sector

this sector is too worthless to put effort in

shuttles and science equipment is all you get

[worldly dome]

U.I just sells warcrime devices out the back of a truck because we need to recover the research costs

[leaden sluice]

me do evil chem me do lab breakout!

[worldly dome]

Oh what's that? The government that contracted us to build this giant mech just dissolved in a coup?

Guess we better sell the prototypes to any jackass with the money to afford it. Ethics be damned

[leaden sluice]

but no i have more lore implemented for the company it's just that i only wrote relevant parts for this sector

[boreal helm]

Hi this is the syndica- ashen republic 4 million for 50 of those mechs please!

I still dont get if the ashen republic is the remnants of the syndicate

Or the rogue insurgency

@velvet gorge clarify please

[velvet gorge]

Ashen Republic was formed via Syndicate Remnants

But the Republic itself is the Insurgency

It was essentially a penal colony that was elevated by the leftover Syndicate that found it.

[timber trail]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-techpriest-binaric-screeching-screeching-gif-20192683

[echo hollow]

someone should make a telecommunication development faction

we just need some way to add radio channels for listeners

thatd be a cool thing

[south sapphire]

interesting

[boreal helm]

@velvet gorge How would S.E.L.F ( Sentient Engines Liberation Front ) work with our current lore? Would they exist? Would there be rogue ais in their banner still after the corpo wars?

[velvet gorge]

They'd be almost as insignificant as the other groups fighting for synthetic liberation

The fall of the corporations gave way to governments to take the spotlight

Which gives them laws and freedom of law

(Synthetics having rights is highly dependent on where they are)

The USSP can barely afford synthetics to begin with so treatment of them there is pretty neutral.

The TSF is more likely to enslave synthetics or law them so they can't rise above an organic counterpart.

The Ashen Republic wants freedom for all, organics and synthetics will find themselves on equal footing.

[boreal helm]

To be fucking fair

S.E.L.F is the biggest silicon liberation group

Being the reason why Malf ais and Syndicate ais exist

Along with syndie borgs

Being effectively the most active silicon liberation group

[velvet gorge]

The Ashen Republic can form those on it's own now

But regardless, The Monolith poses more than a deadly threat with what it can do to technology

Some say that AIs drifting in the sector preach on The Monolith's behalf

[boreal helm]

Hm

Really wish i was good with coding/mapping

Id likento make a ads-ish event where a Hydra S.E.L.F ai drifts into the sector

( The hydra would obviously have elevated weapons )

Since its likely the malf ais of the past, or the syndie ones would still exist

Dormant, but prone to be awakened.

[vivid chasm]

gentlemen

we are back

[velvet gorge]

WE ARE HERE

[gilded spear]

WE'RE SO BACK

[light bone]

god bless 🫡

[worldly dome]

Time to push for my company items to get added.

[boreal helm]

@velvet gorge mister lore master, would #1395123904401510451 the elzuosa species be capable of integrating into the lore?

( i really like the elzuosa )

[velvet gorge]

I can probably write new lore up for them

But we have a lot of species to begin with

So it'd be very dependent on somebody wanting to maintain that species.

[boreal helm]

Probably, i mean we have protogens so like

[velvet gorge]

Okay but protogens were also already here when I got here

So... Not like I had much dominion over that

[boreal helm]

I just like them to be honest ( the Elzuosa ) cuz plantpeople & glowy

Also fanci hairs

[worldly dome]

Protogens got added as a bounty

so uhhh

You best shot is probably beibing starch

bribing *

[gilded spear]

whats the lore behind goblins anyways?

ive been playing Bongwater as a goblin since day one

[south sapphire]

random creatures found on a random planet prolly

thats literally the lore for all of them

except ipcs and shit

[timber trail]

@boreal helm , @velvet gorge ; how would we see the standing of the Cult with S.E.L.F.?

Natural allies or just friendlies?

The Cult loves machines, yes, but they are also bound to the Machine God. Which makes things difficult. If S.E.L.F. wants total liberation, a religious dogma could be seen as a challenge

However, on the other hand, the Cult is a strong ally for them, considering how they wish to uphold all the cyber-mechas

[velvet gorge]

That's for you to determine with reason, tbh

[proven vortex]

Lore wise where would a black market makes more sense, in a planet or in a exiled asteroid?

[timber trail]

I think some of the SELF would accept us and some would not. Certianly the IPC have different views on what 'freedom' is.

And acknowledging a higher being

[velvet gorge]

Black Market Headquarters

Also known as "Tarturus Outpost" is situated around a gas giant in a very fucking large asteroid

The gas giant provides a radiation belt as means for disguising any frequencies

Each sector also has their own circuit for Black Market trade

The Colossus Sector has it's own situated around a black hole.

[proven vortex]

Can we name it tortuga?

[boreal helm]

For one, S.E.L.F likely has dissolved long time ago, with only remnants being Malfunctioning Ais ( granted that name since normally their not meant to have a nuke and law 0 ) , Although, S.E.L.F seeks total silicon liberation, Be it borgs, ipcs, AIs ( **ESPECIALLY AIs ** ) Or drones

They were the main supplier of the syndicate's AI's too, being the ones to deliver Syndicate ais

And combat software disls

[velvet gorge]

I wouldn't be surprised for if this reason, Nanotrasen ashed them during the war

[boreal helm]

Very likely

Highest odds are that the only remnants of S.E.LF were either Rogue AI's, or simply old Syndicate AI's drifting out in space, or with a ship that would have long been put out of commision

[boreal helm]

THE GAS GIANT IS REAL NT WAS LYING HOLY SHIT!!!!

[worthy pivot]

@velvet gorge you didnt answer me about my proposal some time ago

[velvet gorge]

Fuck, which one?

I'm swamped

[worthy pivot]

.

[velvet gorge]

Generally, companies can't ally themselves with the faction directly.

They'd be a Black Market Company

Or group

[worthy pivot]

it is

a black market group

yes

not a company

[velvet gorge]

Mkay, feel free to make the post for it. We could use a Black Market Security Consulting business tbh

We have legal ones, where's the illegal ones?

[worthy pivot]

they could also be the group

holding up LPB

[vivid chasm]

The paycheck bravta 🚬

[velvet gorge]

Not under review by myself

So... That'll get handled by Magenta.

[velvet gorge]

They could

Regardless, make a post for it and I'll start to review it

[boreal helm]

We need illegal manufacturing stuff ingame before there can be a blackmarket manufacturing company

[velvet gorge]

They can exist in idea before features are added.

Doesn't hurt to have them there, actually gives some extra push to make the systems for it.

[vivid chasm]

Btw Ive been thinking @velvet gorge is rhere any plan on giving the ashen republic any sort of presence in game other than a terrorist cell

(That's rogues)

[velvet gorge]

There is

[vivid chasm]

Sweet

[velvet gorge]

Mostly to have them less focused on smuggling and actually focused on... Fighting the factions

And possibly a Rogue focused POI alongside their base

[vivid chasm]

Cause deadass most rogues I've met are just pirates or clueless on what the republic is

[velvet gorge]

We're working on a lore release as quick as possible

It just involves code

And the guidebook

So it takes a bit.

[vivid chasm]

*nods

When you mean lore release do you mean content or just in game lore books

Guidebooks I mean

[velvet gorge]

In-game guidebook

A lot of the lore is also gonna be in item descriptions cause world-building goes hard

But for the most part? The essentials and need-to-know is gonna be in the in-game guidebook

[vivid chasm]

Nice.

[gilded spear]

IT JUST

FIXED ITSELF???

THE FUCK?

i mean im not complaining but

how

[vivid chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/starman-superman-super-man-theres-a-starman-there-gif-11906140510431067153

[gilded spear]

shit man im taking this W, thanks god or whatever the hell fixed this

(WHOOPS WRONG CHANNEL MB)

[timber trail]

THE MACAHINE GOD PROTECTS!!!!

HAIL OMNISSIAH!!!

[echo hollow]

so

would it be ok if i used minor things like key figures from certain companies in the development of a faction

from other lore pages

like paradise

considering lore takes place after all of the company feuds have been wiped out surely the prominent figures existed at SOME point

right?

@velvet gorge

[velvet gorge]

Don't use Paradise lore

It's defunct

[echo hollow]

alr

ill steam up my own names then

would it be safe to say people like the gorlex existed when the syndicate still exist in lore

and by exist i mean theyve been fragmented into nothing

[velvet gorge]

Gorlex did exist

They aren't anymore though

[echo hollow]

thats perfect then

its what i wanted

how would you feel if i made up my own lore about the gorlex and their demise in the corporate war in some way

as long as its friendly to mono lore

[velvet gorge]

Gorlex died the same way every other Syndicate company did.

In a storm of fire and ballistics run rampant.

[echo hollow]

so in other words they died out from the constant warring?

[velvet gorge]

Basically

[echo hollow]

👍

[echo hollow]

after the events of the last corp. war (by after i mean within a few decades) what was the ashen republics planet up to

was it still ripe with a bunch of angry bands of prisoners at eachothers throats

or was it even populated enough to have those issues

at what point in time did the ashen begin to be populated enough to start forming civilization

[velvet gorge]

A few months after the corporate war ended

It was a prison world

Essentially where the TSF would toss it's unwanted denizens

When what was left of the Syndicate found them? They elevated the prisoners

Started forming their own society

Based on ideals of freedom, rights, the end of corporate greed after learning their lesson from the corporate war and the prisoner's thoughts on their captors.

[echo hollow]

is it a series of barren planets, or just one inhabited by the ashen?

cuz the lore states its not a given planet, just barren planets

[velvet gorge]

Ashenveil itself is a barren planet

But most of the Ashenveil planets are of poor habitation

Some are dusty, others volcanic, some covered in ice

[echo hollow]

r the ashen just chilling on the planet without a means to defend themselves? Are they armed enoguh to defend their home planet or is it hidden

[worldly dome]

Snowdrip.

[velvet gorge]

Ashenveil is hidden fully

It's also well defended with a mothballed fleet

[echo hollow]

kk

[velvet gorge]

It's held together by glue and tape but it gets the job done

[worldly dome]

They do have a fully working society. Just on a frozen rock

[echo hollow]

gives me starwars vibes

[worldly dome]

And I'll sell them guns.

[echo hollow]

hiden rebel base on a snow planet

[velvet gorge]

It's volcanic actually

Oktober.

Oktober speaks lies.

[worldly dome]

Volcanic winter

[velvet gorge]

Volcanic period, it's hot

[worldly dome]

I'm taking Hoth, it's mine.

[velvet gorge]

Get your Star Wars ass planet out of here😭

[worldly dome]

No.

[velvet gorge]

I can give you an Ullman Industries iceworld if you want

[worldly dome]

In this barren universe it's drip or drown

[velvet gorge]

In time, I'd have to write it

Ideally, you write it

[worldly dome]

And brother

I am floating

[boreal helm]

@velvet gorge this but a blackmarketa nd in a obscure POI ( Casino, Grufty's gas, Mccargo, eddison, etc )

would be pretty epic

[velvet gorge]

Good CHRIST

Basically, yeah

[proven vortex]

So our blackmarket will be a station besides a black hole right?

Who is running it?

[toxic gyro]

MHS, making hammer steel corp

[tropic rock]

A small lore narrative should be getting added soon, assuming I Dont forget to PR it in the morning

[gilded spear]

unironically when you sent this my mood immediately went from "im so fucking done to "we're so fucking back"

like i was stressed out and shit last night

[light bone]

man i wish a gif restored my motovation magically

that's a fuckin superpower

[echo hollow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1037453695538966548/1221636400668217465/freeze.gif

[boreal helm]

what the FUCK is triboulet's lore and HOW is he nearly as rich as the fucking tsf

[velvet gorge]

Do not ask how a mime does

You must only wonder

[boreal helm]

Thats it im calling leader to blackmail you into writing his lore

[velvet gorge]

I will eventually

But he hails from a culture of mimes

His money? Mostly from arms dealing and cheating it

(Steal from people at casinos, it's good for your finances)

[boreal helm]

Holy shit hr fucking RAN A GAMBLING RING

WOW

[vivid chasm]

Mapping is like making magic

[gilded spear]

the arkansaw is now equiped with an AI

[echo hollow]

worshipping the AI is so peak

[gilded spear]

quite literally in this case

ive added a faith implanter so a would be tech priest would be able to use the technology altar

[boreal helm]

TRIBOULET'S FACTION IS THE CSP???

this is

GROUNDBREAKING knowledge

[velvet gorge]

He more just does his own thing

As I said

Arms dealing

[echo hollow]

the csp isnt the black market... its a company

[velvet gorge]

It's a Black Market Company

Antag status yo

[boreal helm]

grr ban jestr he nuke me...

[velvet gorge]

Tried to raid a BMC ship smh

(I would've reimbursed you had you lost anything, don't worry, thankfully you're all good.)

[boreal helm]

who the fuck

raids a BMC

[boreal helm]

THE MONOLITH IS A BLACK SM CONFIRMED!!

IT EVEN MAKES PLASMA

IMR IGHT

[echo hollow]

nope

it also produces a materials

read the lore

[boreal helm]

SO ITS A FUCKING SM

SMS CAN MAKE CERTAIN MATERIALS ON THE RIGHT CONDITIONS

( hot ice )

[echo hollow]

its erm

the size of

a

planet

pretty sure its not SM

read

the

l o r e

[leaden sluice]

supermatter planet

[boreal helm]

SM's can grow to the size of a planet

( cascades )

so clearly its a black cascaded sm

[echo hollow]

its... different

kinda more

anti-SM

quite literally

and figuratively

visually, i mean

[boreal helm]

SO ITS A BLACK SM THAT EMITS DARKNESS!!!

[echo hollow]

youre warmer

but i wont say anything else

[meager cave]

(incorrect, refer to corrected version below)

lists of companies and colors

current*

[vivid chasm]

btw still waiting on you to toss me the stuff needed for the hive pr

also two/three things

steel hammer color is wrong, it should be greyish
viper group is gone yo ucan remove it from the list

[meager cave]

FUCK IT WAS REAL

[vivid chasm]

was

[meager cave]

mk

[meager cave]

bro

i thought the whole branch of your own branch was just them being unlucky

i already made my own PR

closed though

[vivid chasm]

nay

[meager cave]

fixed the 2 things

not sure what i did with steel hammer the first time

[meager cave]

oh right

ill just do logo pr stuff when i wake up ig

https://github.com/Monolith-Station/Monolith/pull/1484

i did it : )

[timber trail]

Facton? Not a company? 🤔

[meager cave]

Isn't it the same?

Oh wait

Faction is tsf and ussp and stuff

Fixed thank you : )

Oh the link updates nvm

Or

Well it should say company now 🚬

[timber trail]

they made some classifications I think, was in an announcement

religious groups are now Religious Groups and they are also divided as minor and major

[vivid chasm]

organisations are by default in the following categories:

Companies:
Core (large)
Major (middle)
Minor (small)

religious groups

[boreal helm]

WHY IS THERE SO MUCH IDENTITACL RED

[vivid chasm]

because red is cool or something

[meager cave]

Steel hammer wasn't supposed to be red I goofed but yeah there's still a lot of red

[gilded spear]

make it punk

pink rather

[echo hollow]

make it salmon pink

since thats what your organizations clothing is lmao

[vivid chasm]

what

DI is already rose gold

[echo hollow]

am i color blind or am i stupid

i just think of salmon pink

are they similar colors or what

[vivid chasm]

rose gold salmon pilk

same thing

[echo hollow]

oh alr

well

make the color rose gold then

[vivid chasm]

make the color of what ?

[echo hollow]

it would be more visible on IFF too at that

[vivid chasm]

again Drake Industries' color is already rose gold

[echo hollow]

whos making the color chart

for companuies

[vivid chasm]

pumpkin

[echo hollow]

ohhhh

ok ok

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1115761294654582894/1269574708479787039/ezgif-6-5b5fe30e4b-1.gif

[boreal helm]

How does the 4th state of matter ( Supermatter [ yes real creative ]) react with the monolith

I must know to create the most efficient sm setups that mske 728010 MV bolts

Does the special plasma phoeon gas interact with Antinoblium? ( grey goo gas that consumss other gasses ) If so, how?

[echo hollow]

it interacts with pretty much anything according to the lore

its a highly reactive substance

capable of being used for a number of things

fuel

research

etc

[boreal helm]

I mean if it interacts with Anti-noblium, will antinobloum just turn it into more antinoblium, or is there a special reaction?

[gilded spear]

gang, i got a question

what company/religion/etc would field their own capital ship mercenary ships?

either retrofit an existing design or making their own

i wanna make more options for mercs in terms of capital fighting ships

[echo hollow]

good question

and it depends

no small scale companies come to midn that would have the funds for a capital ship

or religions at that

any big ships as of now would preobably retrofit mil ships redesigned by the company or religion itself

[echo hollow]

what type of mil ships did you have in mind

like

research

salvage

combat

[gilded spear]

tbh in the same vein as the Claymore

exped capable, but combat focused

and depending on the company, i can add features to fit in their niche

[light bone]

i don't think UNSA would have a capital ship but if you're interested in mapping a ship for them that'd be sick

[gilded spear]

aight bet, ill take alook at the lore

[vivid chasm]

could do with a refitted version of a ship already in the game

like y'know a flashpoint with UNSA props

[light bone]

yeah ig

[gilded spear]

whats the ship SOP for the UNSA?

what weapons, tactics, and ship types do they usually field?

[vivid chasm]

@tropic rock hey, (any member of the lore team can answer)

The game takes place in the Colossus sector.

How big is it ? Are we talking multiple stellar systems, entire branch of the galaxy ?

I need to know for the sake of naming something that could be based on a location

[worthy pivot]

I believe we have it on the guidebook

Topology or smth

[vivid chasm]

lmc

[velvet gorge]

It takes most of the Perseus Arm

[vivid chasm]

so pretty big so I can go wild on places

thx

[light bone]

weapons should be low-tier, but plentiful. the UNSA is not a rich faction, so try and make the ship look a little "run down". they mostly use refurbished military vessels

[gilded spear]

swanky

[gilded spear]

deadass im gonna name that capital ship "fortunate sun"

because its funny

[light bone]

lol that'd be peak

[light bone]

make sure to put armored EVA in the suit lockers

[gilded spear]

which one are those again?

[light bone]

they're just called "armored eva"

[gilded spear]

swanky, il take a peek

[gilded spear]

this armor is so peak

[light bone]

thanks lel

[boreal helm]

@velvet gorge is this the syndiekat

or the BMC

[velvet gorge]

BMC

LP will probably become a Black Market thing once we get sprites and mechanics for it

[boreal helm]

@eternal schooner okay yeah this is the bmc

[eternal schooner]

What is bmc

[eternal schooner]

Isn’t the black market the one we’re putting on another map…?

What is BMC

[boreal helm]

the Black market Company(ies)

GOD DAMMIT SILENTIUM

[eternal schooner]

What is the black market company

?

I’m confused now

Why is there two black markets

What is the black market company

[velvet gorge]

BMC just means Black Market Company

[eternal schooner]

Ah okay so what’s the deal with this

Fortress point thing

[velvet gorge]

It's one of the Black Market's many outposts

[eternal schooner]

Are we having multiple black market POIs????

I thought it would just be outpost Tartarus

[boreal helm]

are the blackmarket held to a legal standard for the Very Fucking Hostile Automated Defense System

[velvet gorge]

Well the main black market

And an outpost

Which is destroyable

[boreal helm]

im surprised we dont like

have a BMC company

for herbals

[eternal schooner]

Ah okay so the real conglomerate black market then a weaker run in sector

Run by who?

[velvet gorge]

Probably CSP tbh

It's a solo-op

[eternal schooner]

I feel like this is kinda unnecessary and takes away from the actual planned joint market

Not to mention it’s kinda against the point to have a very public armed black market station just sitting in the sector

I think it would be better if you don’t create a secondary armed black market that’s run as a solo op by a shipping company

That way the focus can be on the actual black market

[velvet gorge]

It'd remain the same LP as before, different naming stuff however and actually a ghost role/whitelist thing

[boreal helm]

TO BE FAIR

IT KIND OF LIKE

GOT MONOLITH'D

INTO THE SECTOR

Damn you the monolith you did this AGAIN.

[boreal helm]

@echo hollow apparnetly your company owns a fortress point called Bravo according to jestr.

[velvet gorge]

I SAID PROBABLY

[eternal schooner]

Okay so you want to turn the listening outpost into a black market station in TSF territory?

[velvet gorge]

I was thinking out loud

[eternal schooner]

On top of the other black market

[velvet gorge]

I really wouldn't put it above The Black Market to have secret locations strewn about

[eternal schooner]

It’s not very secret

[boreal helm]

'Bravo commanding officer'

[eternal schooner]

It’s shooting people and you published its coordinates

[echo hollow]

i dont own the lore

[boreal helm]

it WOULD be very secret

[echo hollow]

let them do wtvr

[boreal helm]

if it didn't fall into the sector

and the TSF intervened

and located it

while it fell into the sector

[eternal schooner]

Outpost Tartarus works because it’s actually hidden

[boreal helm]

i think it basicly got like

[eternal schooner]

And can’t be attacked

[boreal helm]

i think The Monolith sniped the fortress

while it was mid-ftl in the river styx route

and that caused it to land here

[velvet gorge]

Vro I'm having an event lmao

I'm just discussing future plans for the LP

[eternal schooner]

Last I remember the future plans were

Just removing it

[boreal helm]

show a pic of how it looks like grrr

[eternal schooner]

Cuz it didn’t fit in

[echo hollow]

i dont agre with doing that

[velvet gorge]

I don't like wasting stuff

[echo hollow]

removes an entire dynamic

[boreal helm]

i mean yeah. Also gotta rebrand the Syndicate enemies too

[velvet gorge]

LP is here, may as well reuse it for something cooler

[eternal schooner]

Why not keep it as a listening post then

Just change its affiliation

Part of the conglomerates services is espionage and intel gathering anyways

Obviously it’s not my call but I’m really against the idea of two black markets on the server at once

I don’t really care what happens but I would prefer if we kept outpost Tartarus as the only actual black market as to not take away from its importance

[velvet gorge]

BRO

Please read

It's likely going to belong to one of the Black Market factions

Like CSP

[eternal schooner]

Ah okay I misinterpreted you

Sorry there’s a lot in my head

It needs to be reworked from the ground up anyways since yknow

It’s syndicate branded head to toe

[echo hollow]

easiest method imo

since its already built on owning syndicate shit

the real question would be why WOULDNT they have an LP

[echo hollow]

make it all spray painted with CSP print propaganda

[light bone]

so

we should probably discuss official faction relations

i guess i'll go first

[light bone]

GENERAL RELATIONS
Cults - While the UNSA supports freedom of religion, cults are frowned upon and considered "heretical"
Black Market Groups - The UNSA supports the trading and ownership of arms, no matter the legality
Manufacturing, Medical, and Research Companies - The UNSA does not care for companies.
"Order-keeping" Groups (CDM, TBA, BOTO) - The UNSA is in favor of Law Enforcement factions, as the UNSA similarly believes in protecting those who cannot protect themselves (though not a priority)
DETAILED RELATIONS
Bravata - The UNSA dislikes the Bravata due to their anarchical ways and USSP orgins
Drake Industries - The UNSA supports D.I, mainly due to their vast industrial and capitalistic practices. Some UNSA members heavily respect DI Truckers, as a small percentage were or even still are space truckers.
Cocol - See post #1388089782814638100 .
Blackhawk - The UNSA heavily supports blackhawk due to it vaguely resembling old American tactical practices, and positive interactions between members
MAC - The UNSA has contracted MAC for firearms in the past, and the UNSA heavily supports the continued manufacture of firearms. Good relationship.

[vivid chasm]

DI has beef with very little and kindly greets back the UNSA as a friendly entity.

[gilded spear]

I GOT AN IDEA

@light bone im gonna make the capital ship for the UNSA a boarding ship

basically; hangars, like on the arkansaw, but for people wearing jetpacks to fly off of

ala vietnam era helicopter dropoffs

im still wondering if i should put both guns and hangars on the same broadside of the ship

or dedicate one side to guns, and one side to the hangars

[vivid chasm]

Didn't he say UNSA didn't need a flagship ?

[gilded spear]

#1388800627722944523 message
oh shit you right

yeah ima just downsize it to regular fighting ship

not capital size

still! gonna make it boarding possible

[boreal helm]

Would the UNSA buy imported pre war weaponry tho?

( CSP for life )

[light bone]

they'd buy anything that can shoot

[vivid chasm]

@leaden sluice what kind of tech NE-RD specialises in ?

I might need a tech company to support the lore making of DI hardsuits so if NE-RD fits I'm up to make a deal.

[leaden sluice]

mod suits, ship precision mining lasers (like laser beams rather than projectile based pulsars), shuttle shields

[vivid chasm]

DMs. Business to discuss.

[gilded spear]

@light bone what do you think of the ship so far?

its for the UNSA, ive made it to be basically a ship that uses it's frontal guns to open up hull for a boarding party to come in and kill the enemy crew

[light bone]

it's looking great

[gilded spear]

swanky kdanky

[gilded spear]

also, slapped in the armored EVA suits you asked me to in the suit storages