[SPOILERS] Star-Crossed World

[autumn turret]

Oh there's no に after 国

||Well there's a reason I translated it as vestiges ig||

[true aurora]

Peak art fr
Used to have it as my screensaver until I changed it to the SCW promotional art lol

||Actually wonder if they’ll remake it with Neo Chaos Elfilis Core||

[timber plaza]

||me singing the unfinished track and my mother screaming me to shut up it’s too early in morning:||

[pastel ravine]

|| I shudder to think about the power Elfilin possesses. He has no reason to unleash it but still||

|| bro has both of Elfilis’s powers, I wonder if he can transform||

[calm cobalt]

||doesn’t his dialogue say he’s not good at using those powers?||

[vocal sparrow]

||Someone got the final boss in their pfp in one of my servers ||

||Oh wait, their in this server too||

[agile sigil]

|| Run them over with a Big Rig ||

[pastel ravine]

What? When?

[timber plaza]

Who

Can you DM me

@vocal sparrow me when forgot to reply

[vocal sparrow]

Oh they just changed it

[timber plaza]

Oh

[calm cobalt]

||I think it was his secret dialogue? Don’t remember too well.||

[agile sigil]

||Beat the True Arena ZEX with Masked Hammer without needing any Retries||

[obtuse verge]

CRAP, FORWARDED MESSAGES DON'T GET SPOILERED

||https://fixupx.com/Swag_K1RBY/status/1965192069657645469 ||

SwagKirb (@Swag_K1RBY)

Kirby can chew apparently
︀︀
︀︀Does that mean he has teeth

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FixupX · Sep 8, 2025, 11:14 PM

[timber plaza]

Localization

[obtuse verge]

||Either way are we really sure the part where Kirby can chew is mistranslated because I can't imagine Kirby with teeth IT'S CURSED||

[timber plaza]

||moupupu kirby||

[obtuse verge]

Wait what??

[obtuse verge]

||OH MY GOD LMFAOOOOOOO||

[timber plaza]

I love you…

[obtuse verge]

||the mag of lor||

[timber plaza]

But uhm

[obtuse verge]

OH GOD

LOLLLLLL

[timber plaza]

||Japanese version uses onomatopoeia||

[icy tapir]

i mean ||onomotopeia for chewing is still implying that he's using something to make that sound||

shouldve been localzied as ||nomming on elflilin||

[timber plaza]

||likely the reason why it became “chewing”||

||mogu mogu is a onomatopoeia that doesn’t require teeth||

||pretty much yeah, nomming would be more suitable and closer||

[obtuse verge]

||Wtf... a Nekomata Okayu reference||

[timber plaza]

||nom om||

[nimble pewter]

ok so

i listened to the ||100% bonus niechel song|| via youtube

||uh i feel like the meaning is something like "i want to go with them but can't, but also would it even be worth it in the first place?"||

||people talk about the white wings line but if different lines were taken literally we'd be getting "Niechel is every warpstar in history" theories as well||

[red mango]

||I feel like besides the general allusions to space travel it's a lot of metaphors for passing on
to say nothing for the implications of a "last song" that is unfinished||

[nimble pewter]

yeah ||"white wings" could be an angel reference"||

[red mango]

||like the surface level analysis is that this song is a lament for dying on an abandoned planet and dying alone on top of that||

[nimble pewter]

I feel like ||there's good odds that that's what it is in the end||

[lapis reef]

||I feel like a lot of the appeal is simply because it's funny tbh. Or at least, that's why I'm ok with the theory, even if I don't personally buy it. ||

[neat shuttle]

||and then the song proceeds to have Lor Starcutter sounds at the end||

[nimble pewter]

||so? they're also in the UCZ EX AND HERE WE ARE/Fa-Lu-Wa-A mashup||

[neat shuttle]

well

isn't that weird?

[nimble pewter]

||hell it's clearer there than it is here||

[neat shuttle]

||what do you mean it's clearer there||

[nimble pewter]

||by like, a lot||

[neat shuttle]

||it's pretty darn clear in Last Song lol||

[nimble pewter]

||there's a static filter that makes it harder to hear in niechel's final song||

||said filter isn't in AND HERE WE ARE/Fa-Lu-Wa-A||

[neat shuttle]

||and so?||

||the filter is present throughout the song to some extent||

[nimble pewter]

||seems odd that it's more visible in the LoC CE fight than here||

[icy tapir]

its strange in general that its ||a beep that plays at all considering its her last unfinished song||

[nimble pewter]

seems at most like ||they wanted to say the halcandrans were the humans of earth||

[neat shuttle]

||Last Song is clearly something archived||

[icy tapir]

||was she singing in front of one, inside one, etc||

[nimble pewter]

because they were mad ||people though the newworlders were dedede's ancestors or whatever||

[nimble pewter]

||probably sampling tbh||

[neat shuttle]

no one said that

[icy tapir]

no one did that

[nimble pewter]

wait sorry

[neat shuttle]

like, none of what you're saying, anyone has ever said that in any serious manner

[icy tapir]

this doesn't really relate to my sentence at all

[nimble pewter]

exaggerating but i remember "New worlders came from popstar" being the main theory when base fl was new

[red mango]

||I think there's other thing I imagine being alluded to
I get this imagery of the passengers of the spaceship being put into cryogenic stasis and indefinitely dreaming as they travel to a place that they don't know if it even exists||

[neat shuttle]

yes it's a theory

that doesn't mean it's real

[nimble pewter]

i know

[icy tapir]

and no one is mad about it being disproven 😭

[neat shuttle]

||and no one has put that theory ahead on Last Song||

[icy tapir]

i dont think ive even heard of that theory

all i heard was Beast Virus

[nimble pewter]

i was saying ||hal put lor noises in those songs to try and hammer in the fact||
||them being mad was an exaggeration for comedic effect||

[icy tapir]

||hammer in the fact that what exactly||

[nimble pewter]

"new worlders are popstar ancestors" was the big post-release theory

Zootopia theory was the big prerelease theory

[neat shuttle]

||what fact||

[icy tapir]

also ||considering Spaceship NEW WORLD is literally related to teh Lor Starcutter idk why they would do that against theorists||

[nimble pewter]

||that the new worlders are the halcandrans||

[neat shuttle]

||also yeah like New World is suspiciously close looking to Lor Starcutter cockpit||

[icy tapir]

feels ||disproportionately personal which most of the time those types of interactions dont exist||

[nimble pewter]

please please

there is a miscommunication here

[haughty dagger]

There's 0 chance they're not connected significantly

[nimble pewter]

they aren't supporting new worlders = popstar

i was saying they were trying to DEBUNK that theory for good this time

[neat shuttle]

I don't care about new worlds = popstar tbh

[nimble pewter]

and confirm new worlders = ancients instead

[icy tapir]

no one was saying that theory at all tbh

[neat shuttle]

You're definitely talking about something no one talked about at this moment

[icy tapir]

its more like they were just implementing what they originally had

[nimble pewter]

i am being gaslit

[icy tapir]

without caring about fan theories

[nimble pewter]

/joking but

[nimble pewter]

ok fair enough

sorry

[haughty dagger]

Considering it's called the world of dreams I highly doubt it's not popstar

[neat shuttle]

||I do seriously think having Lor Starcutter sounds in Last Song is not random||

[haughty dagger]

||ofc not||

[neat shuttle]

||especially not after singing about WARPING IN SPACE AND TIME||

[icy tapir]

genuinely don't even know what kind of people or theories u were talking about of "FL is popstar inhabitants" because everything the start of the marketing was "kirby is in this new forgotten land and discovers it" and everyone was like why is everything animals!

even when they showed like Popstar enemies, the mid bosses were also "wild"

[nimble pewter]

this was right after release not before it

[neat shuttle]

||I do not believe for a second that it was just there for dramatic effect||

[icy tapir]

no it wasnt.

[haughty dagger]

||rip neichel, let's hope you somehow survived the isolation||

[icy tapir]

Literally the first leaked image of Forgotten Land was the title "Kirby Discovery"

i am genuinely being so serious

[neat shuttle]

maybe some people did but I seriously don't remember that ever being a serious discussion

I do remember the theory being thrown around, yes

[nimble pewter]

||and? what, is the rest of the song implying death on an isolated world contradicted by this?||

[neat shuttle]

but that theory has literally nothing backing it up

[nimble pewter]

i know
i know
please

but hal may have seen what was popular in 2022 and responded to-nvm

please

just drop that

[neat shuttle]

I'm just gonna drop

I do not understand what you're talking about in the slightest

[haughty dagger]

||I do hope she comes back in another game, I know it's implied she died but it would be amazing if she somehow gets shown in another game/some ancestor of her becomes an ally later on||

[icy tapir]

genuinely you feel like a madman

[neat shuttle]

I do not understand how anything I said is somehow mutually exclusive to other people's interpretations

[icy tapir]

was it even popular

i was like in htis server the entire FL marketing start and its game's release

and got the game

no one was talking about this theory

[neat shuttle]

I don't think it was ever popular

[icy tapir]

no one

[neat shuttle]

I do remember the theory being talked about

but it was just

a passing mention at most

No one took it seriously because there was nothing to back it up, it was just tons of what ifs

like as much as the Kirby lore fanbase loves to make up stuff

[haughty dagger]

I am slightly confused on the current topic lmao

[icy tapir]

if it was talked about it was probably in places like general because i did not see a single peep about the theory nor was there any evidence about it and if there was no like. at least some semblance of evidence being made for the theory i assume its just some random thought

[neat shuttle]

most of that made up stuff is usually logical

as much as Kirby is Void is bs

it didn't come from nowhere

[haughty dagger]

Kirby is void||'s creation||

[neat shuttle]

New Worlders being from Pop Star originally

that theory has nothing backing it up

[broken sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[neat shuttle]

I cannot see it being more than a potential hc for anyone to fill the blanks

and usually people with hcs are pretty darn aware that nothing is necessarily backing up their hc

it's just fun

it's Kirby lore y'all

it's just meant to be a fun thing to uncover

[haughty dagger]

I mean even story wise them being from pop doesn't make too much sense unless we wanna go the route that our series characters brutally murdered the new inhabitants, leading to a world lacking humanity lmao

[neat shuttle]

I mean

do we want to rule that out from Kirby universe

lol

[haughty dagger]

Nobody ever dies in Kirby lore

The ancients are all on some planet we haven't seen yet

Still alive thousands of years later

[neat shuttle]

anyway ||if that Lor Starcutter sound is also in those weird cacophonies (which I haven't really taken notice of because uh... of how they sound in general that prevents me to focus that hard) well I would also find it very weird||

||and there's also one simple theory to have: If the Lor itself is not involved, then it's the New World spaceships making that sound... which is STILL HIGHLY SUS in regards to the relation to Lor LOL||

[icy tapir]

yeah considering like ||Elfilis specifically didnt use the space ships at all considering he's still on the planet, and Genwel just landed||

[neat shuttle]

||no matter what though, all roads lead to Lor, the path is just either direct or indirect||

[haughty dagger]

||not to mention the circle is 1 to 1 with the console of the shop lmao||

[neat shuttle]

||and even then, even the most indirect path is less vague than a lot of lore we had before||

||so I still can't necessarily take it as HAL trying to make it dramatic||

||they chose this sound to begin with lol||

[haughty dagger]

||It's also of note the last game released before this dlc was return to Dreamland deluxe lol||

||almost as if hal wants newer fans to experience the game they're about to drop lore on||

||it's like how all games past star allies contain morpho knight and stuff||

||something something recentcy bias||

[lapis reef]

||the only game past Star Allies that has morpho is Forgotten Land. I guess there's a mask version in a few games, but that doesn't really count imo||

[broken sapphire]

||i mean, every game still references morpho knight in some way
...except kirby fighters 2
...and kirby's extra epic yarn i guess but that doesn't really count does it||

[lapis reef]

||I guess, but to me that's like saying Zero was relevant in RtDX because there was a mask. I dunno||

But yes, ||in the technical sense, Morpho has had at least a minimal appearance in every game since||

[broken sapphire]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Kirby/comments/1nbqpl9/kirby_disappeared_with_ice/ wake up, new glitch just dropped

[patent sluice]

ninja ability is in

[nimble pewter]

It was outside the server

[nimble pewter]

Haltmann

[pastel ravine]

Axe Knight

[red mango]

Oh that happened to me on the same stage but with spring mouth

different room though
I wonder if the collision is just weird with starry stage mechanics

[lapis reef]

I think it was RHV who got stuck in the floor when getting hit with stair mouth. I also saw someone in that same spot get hit and straight up fall through the floor

Collision is definitely weird

[broken sapphire]

true but that was in the base game lol

[timber plaza]

No way…

[keen acorn]

I’d just like to restate a theory I had: ||what if the like, what do you call it, “zones” where it’s like crystallized are actually just 3d portals into an alternate dimension where everything is like that? It would explain why there’s a ripple effect every time you enter/exit one||

[agile sigil]

||Interesting theory||

[lapis reef]

Still, something is weird with collision in the S2 version

[keen acorn]

||why thank you||

[keen garnet]

||hal room ||

[icy tapir]

this channel peaked

[timber plaza]

Can we ban this user

[keen garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/nightmare-wizard-nightmare-oh-moderators-parallel-nightmare-king-d-mind-gif-3080187782095582859

[nimble pewter]

there should be a ||galacta knight variant of this||

[keen garnet]

|| https://tenor.com/bSOAP.gif ||

[nimble pewter]

i know that but like

[orchid harbor]

How would y'all like to help out with a my Kirby meme video?

Credit will be given

[orchid harbor]

It is with UCZEX

Pick a random Evo from each of the available abilities (not for speed running, but for difficulty purposes). Don't just choose all base evos, choose a random one. I'll pick the most requested option from each ability and do random ability challenge with UCZEX. I'll only be able to harm enemy with given ability, if I spit a star at the enemy or don't pick up the given ability unless crash or post miniboss ability, then my run is invalid. If Dedede's hammer or Galaxia is able to be picked up, I must use it in those fights and have to damage Dedede or meta knight with said weapons in phase 2 or when I get the weapon

[icy tapir]

clutter needle

[fast crest]

Go all Ultraseven and use Cutter

https://tenor.com/view/ultraseven-ultraseven-x-eye-slugger-kaiju-gif-6078623484322476065

[obtuse verge]

what the fuck Cutter REALLY is a reference to that lol

[normal holly]

hi cyon

[normal holly]

i think it's even more obvious with chakram cutter upgrade

[obtuse verge]

LMFAO yeah

[fast crest]

Ultraman Zero basically.

Or Z, even.

https://tenor.com/view/ultraman-ultraman-z-alpha-edge-gif-18014579445139064286

[fast crest]

Yep. It's the reason why the Cutter hat is the way that it is, and probably why Chakram Cutter took after some more recent Ultras that also inherited or adapted the technique for themselves.

[obtuse verge]

not gonna lie it's so sick

I really like seeing all of these little Japanese culture nods in the Kirby series, even the Hammer headband is reminiscent of mochi pounding

[fast crest]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/ultra/images/4/4f/Zero_Sluggers.gif

[obtuse verge]

also we better not forget the Gurren Lagann Giga Drill in Planet Robobot final boss LMFAO

[fast crest]

... come to think of it, it's been this way since Sir Kibble has been an enemy

because the Cutter it wields is also mounted to the head before being thrown

[neat shuttle]

oh okay

Nintendo of Europe just putting Twinkling Star Showers on YouTube

[fast crest]

Kirby being able to Hadoken in Smash Bros. literally just being the Fighter's Force Blast in the main games, to pair up with the Rising Break as Shoryuken

[fast crest]

Huh? Hold

[neat shuttle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vTEf9G7M4M

it's the full version

(no lyrics included)

[fast crest]

Also, with a quaver

Is it the right colour?

[neat shuttle]

yes

[fast crest]

Wonder if it means future uploads, if they happen, will also do just as the jukebox in game does

[civic sun]

lol they used non-capitalized version of the name here

[timber plaza]

Woke up to a sudden peak drop

NOW DROP THE ALARMO

[smoky river]

https://open.spotify.com/track/07D4dLAReaGI2X6fQYbOGK?si=YKMOWHHSThOEOcAGHJ5MkA

Hey doesn't this song sound familiar?

Hmm

[atomic turtle]

Question… what would we get if we would fuse ||meteonelfilis||, galacta knight and the butterfly? What monstrous being would we get? The perfect name would maybe be ||Meteolacto chaos Knight||?
Last night at 11pm I thought about fusion every Kirby ability into one biblically accurate one…
I could try building that in Minecraft…
The godly power that ability would have
I need to build it after I finish my second Kirby savefile

Ok! Weapon is done! The two axe blades on the top could spin like the buzz saw when you load it up long enough! Like you have 5 attack stages:
1 normal blade
2 strong blade
3 big blade
4 saw slash
5 Kirby spins with the spinning saw

The godslasher

[fast crest]

Unfortunately I think the resulting fusion would simply be (final boss and UCZ EX spoilers) ||Morpho Knight but with Starry crystal attacks, much like Chaos Elfilis, Lord of Chaos is to Species Born from Chaos and the original Fecto Elfilis|| instead of anything more elaborate or exciting

[atomic turtle]

You forgot… I fuse it with galacta knight… the strongest knight in Kirby

[chrome vigil]

||Galacta would be missing there but yeah||

[chrome vigil]

||Actually the weakest||

||Meta and Morpho are straight up stronger||

[atomic turtle]

I would like to see galacta knight in Kirby and the forgotten land

[chrome vigil]

[atomic turtle]

See how hard it isssss… wait… morpho fused with soul forgo and became chaos Elfilis… how strong would it be with galacta

[chrome vigil]

||Not much stronger considering that Morpho mastering Galacta’s power is just Morpho EX||

[atomic turtle]

Still… I want to fight him

[fast crest]

Morpho Knight's already fused with him once before, it's not like much is gonna change if the fact that the majority of its own boss fight in Forgotten Land is typical Knight fare with almost the exact same moves as Star Allies but in 3D. The only visual change gained from absorbing Soul Forgo was the homing projectile move taking on its form.

We also do not know if Morpho Knight merely retained Galacta Knight's form or if they're still absorbed by the butterfly and subsequently reborn as the Kirby series' resident grim reaper, but owing to how the fusion went in Forgotten Land I feel like the only way it could have gone was for Morpho to do a takeover and just assimilate its victims, making their power its own.

[chrome vigil]

Morpho knight just looks like that

It’s not Galacta knight that made him look like that

That’s just what Morpho’s knight form looks like

It’s completely unrelated

[smoky river]

I wonder if morpho can change form depending on who their gonna fight

[fast crest]

Though I feel like it doesn't really change how the moveset of the boss plays out

[smoky river]

Like they take on a more meta knight or galacta ish form when they are about to fight kirby and the dream friends

[fast crest]

The most that Soul Forgo did for Morpho was, again, just add on its form to its projectiles

[atomic turtle]

Butterfly likes to fuse

[smoky river]

What if the person they are gonna fight is more powerful thus requiring them to take on a different form

[fast crest]

The only thing you could say that Galacta Knight would have offered Morpho Knight is the one move it did not use in Forgotten Land but did in Star Allies - Upper Calibur

[atomic turtle]

The whole boss thing aside. What do you think of my weapon?

[fast crest]

Even then, that's just because Meta Knight made the move happen in that game

[native mauve]

It could actually be from Galacta Knight IMO. The KSA artbook mentions that it's a fusion of the two, and the guidebook for FL mentions it's made out of all the souls both Elfilis and Morpho Knight absorbed.

[fast crest]

Go figure that Galacta may be the only Knight not to actually use Upper Calibur

[chrome vigil]

But then looking the exact same in both games is weird

[native mauve]

Galacta Knight js got that aura idk

[chrome vigil]

Especially because Morpho EX is the Morpho that has Galacta

Not the Morpho in forgotten land

[fast crest]

... uh...

Morpho Knight Guest Star...

aka the original appearance where it ACTUALLY absorbs Galacta Knight

Does that cutscene happen in The Ultimate Choice?

[chrome vigil]

No

In ultimate choice he just appears

But Morpho EX is confirmed to be the same knight

As it is mentioned that he made the white knight’s power its own

[fast crest]

Right, right, fair enough

[chrome vigil]

Again: it probably uses the Dark Aeon hero form

That’s why EX is so dark in color

[fast crest]

Regardless, I'm a firm believer that absorbing Galacta Knight wouldn't do much to change up Morpho Knight's fighting style

[chrome vigil]

We saw what it would do

EX is the living example of Morpho with Galacta’s powers

[fast crest]

distinguishing itself from its fellow Knights with fiery abilities and confusion tactics

Rather than tearing up dimensions and casting swords and lightning

Admittedly, it has been a long time since I fought Morpho Knight in Star Allies

but I was always under the impression that the swordsmanship was base Knight plus a fiery aspect to it

[chrome vigil]

The spirits he shoots in Star Allies are actually round and have a evil Kirby-like face

Which makes me wanna believe that that is Galacta

[fast crest]

the distinguishing factors of Knights in Kirby, to me, is how they use their powers differently from each other

[chrome vigil]

Because it just makes sense considering forgotten land where he shoots Forgo’s soul after absorbing him

[fast crest]

Dark Meta Knight, for example, is distinguished by his use of mirrors

Meta Knight himself has taken to faster and faster swordsmanship, and was the first to use Upper Calibur, carrying it into 3D where Morpho Knight did not

Galacta Knight's kit has primarily been distinguished by summoned swords and lightning strikes

and the occasional bout of tearing through dimensions to attack

[chrome vigil]

Which on Planet Robobot doesn’t even hurt you for one fourth of your health

Which is so damn dumb

Literally chip damage

[fast crest]

A bit of a time waster, though

But yeah, relative to all the other Knights, basically Morpho Knight as I remember it is distinguished by a fiery aspect to their attacks

Crescent Shots have fire properties, their tornadoes are now fiery...

[chrome vigil]

And illusions and teleportation

[fast crest]

Psychic abilities, perhaps?

[chrome vigil]

Some attacks are indodgable too

[chrome vigil]

Not really…

[fast crest]

I only say because one game is hypnotism and another is the screen turn

it's some form of sensory/perception trickery in both games

[fast crest]

Ah, the ones you can't perfect dodge, right?

[chrome vigil]

It’s illusions

[chrome vigil]

The firewall

[fast crest]

The fiery tornadoes?

[chrome vigil]

Idk actually if you can dodge those

But the firewall is one you can’t

[fast crest]

I forget what attack that one is... OH WAIT

NOW I REMEMBER

(UCZ EX) ||I don't recall ever seeing it during my runs in UCZ EX... Wonder if it was pushed to later in the altered pattern or if I just defeated Morpho before it could use it||

that's why I don't recall the move, basically

[chrome vigil]

Point being Galacta would need an upgrade

[fast crest]

was probably about 2 years since I last did UCZ

[chrome vigil]

Although I am generally against it

But whatever

[fast crest]

I mean, Aeon Hero did manage to upgrade Galacta Knight's moveset in RtDLDX

The question, really

is which Knight will bring in a new trick for the others to copy next

because that is usually how these knights evolve over time

Original RtDL Galacta Knight set the standard for how Knights in Kirby would fight from then on

a bunch of them doing an attack, for example, which involves them flying into the middle of the screen to launch an attack that covers a lot of the screen at once

Rising Spine and Blade Burst are executed that way

[atomic turtle]

I am going to build the copyability now

[autumn turret]

||Does anyone have the link to the full elfilin house dialogue in JP||

[timber plaza]

||like full as an including forgo dreams and such??||

||or just the post SCW one||

[autumn turret]

||The one about meteonelfilis||

[timber plaza]

It’s in the old pin

Wait actually is it

[autumn turret]

||Did he talk about forgo dreams in the house in base game? I do not remember that||

[timber plaza]

||he mentions about “let’s go save Leongar” or whatever||

Apparently I never sent the recording

Only the translation

[autumn turret]

lol

I thought I remembered there being a recording but maybe that was just the EN one

[timber plaza]

If you can’t find it in next 3 hours lmk, since I’m not home so I can’t send them

[autumn turret]

kk

[timber plaza]

Godddd istg I thought I sent them rip

I guess the video was too big so I sent single screenshot

The funny ||Dream Friends||

I accidentally sent this screenshot to someone and they were like ||Is that among us in the back||

||(they were talking about spaceship new world)||

[autumn turret]

They were right

[keen garnet]

||Neichel is among us||

[timber plaza]

||Lor Among Us incident in Magorant Express April Fools||

[pastel ravine]

So, what do y’all think of Elfilin now

[timber plaza]

Who

Oh that stinky rodent that stole Magolor’s possible position in adventuring with Kirby in the new world??

[normal holly]

you forgor

[timber plaza]

Jokes aside I never liked or hated Elfilin, he was too pure for this world (I love twist and evil and tsundere Yandere character)

I think I only started liking him around 2023? After RTDLDX released? Magolor and Elfilin looked cute together as friends especially with Magoland mask and how many of the manga had Magolor and Elfilin interact during their RTDLDX arc

[pastel ravine]

Oh yeah, there’s an Elfilin mask

They’ve definitely met

[timber plaza]

Magolor reads about Elfilin (ew rodent)

[pastel ravine]

They’ll be friends

[raven aspen]

elfilin when ||he hears magolor hums the new world melody||

[timber plaza]

Elfilin when Magolor kidnaps and takes him to the Magoland basement and asks him everything that happened to Kirby in new world

[pastel ravine]

[timber plaza]

(He finds out fecto forgo was behind it and he crash lands Lor near the Waddle Dee town and destroys the entire lab)

Magolor as beast pack alternate universe

Replaces Caroline with Magolor as the cat slot

Or replace sillydillo with Magolor because he’s crazy (moreso he’d hoard the treasure)

Gorimondo can be replaced by void Termina as beast pack

[pastel ravine]

Random question, but what would you rate Magolor Epilogue on a scale of 1-10

You, specifically, Yukkuri

[timber plaza]

(The mofu mofu god sama would fit beast pack’s fluffy appearance standard)

[timber plaza]

Can I go over 10

[pastel ravine]

Sure

[timber plaza]

5586

Magolor Epilogue is like

The best post game content tbh

Sure it’s a whole different system than a lot of the past post game content but

It’s more than just that tbh

Also very emotional

It’s not that forgo dreams were bad, or other post game mode wasn’t bad

HIAD is good, guest star is good, forgo dreams is good, detour is good

[neat shuttle]

tamago out of 10

[timber plaza]

I may be bias for Magolor but there’s more than just that

[pastel ravine]

I see where you’re coming from, it completes Magolor character arc after years of it being left to interpretation.

[timber plaza]

The funniest part is that it didn’t actually completed his character arc regardless

[neat shuttle]

well yeah

[pastel ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-magolor-epilogue-kirby-kirby-return-to-dreamland-gif-9271361470932299133

[timber plaza]

It did help people finally forgive him, or find out why he was able to return to Dream land ™

[neat shuttle]

Magolor has like

2 arcs possible

and RTDX closed the first one

the second one is right after

aka

"how the heck does he get out of Dream Kingdom"

lol

[timber plaza]

Magolor would never finish his arc because we will be fed with more lore about him even if we find out his pre RTDL self

[small cloak]

I loved this bit
I was so locked in I blinked & won the final push 😭

[neat shuttle]

Magolor is clearly bored in Dream Kingdom

wants to be something else than a shopkeeper

[pastel ravine]

He will be referenced in every Kirby game

[timber plaza]

He misses his wife (RTDL/Popstar Kirby)

[neat shuttle]

Magolor Epilogue is just

ending with "okay Magolor you did good... but you'll still get what you deserve"

"please now get punished by being in a world you don't like"

[timber plaza]

If the gem apple tree grew in Dream land, Kirby and dedede would eat that thing day 0

[pastel ravine]

Where’s that one dialogue stating he doesn’t care about the dream kingdom

[junior zealot]

you put destined rivals figurine on the shelf... heh... good taste

[pastel ravine]

[timber plaza]

It’s one of the best figurine… I love them…..

[junior zealot]

so true...

[neat shuttle]

To be honest, I don't remember him saying he doesn't like Dream Kingdom

[junior zealot]

i love how magolor is like "bro you are not my kirby"

[neat shuttle]

...but for some reason

Riki loves to portray him as deeply annoyed

so I like to look at it that way lol

[timber plaza]

He doesn’t hate Dream kingdom, but he hates Susie and Taranza

[junior zealot]

its not that he said he doesnt like it. he says something like "i kinda dont care about this place, im just selling stuff for profit"

which. with context of epilogue

[neat shuttle]

oh yeah

[junior zealot]

makes a lot of sense

[neat shuttle]

he did say that

[timber plaza]

Plus he wants to meet the original Kirby since that’s the Kirby he wants to show the theme park to

[neat shuttle]

but Riki decided that he should look more annoyed in his art of Magolor in Clash lol

[junior zealot]

he just wants to get home and this is the only way to do it

get as many gem apples as possible

(?)

[junior zealot]

i do like the idea that he doesnt like dream kingdom straight up tho

mainly because. so true magolor

i hate that place too

bootleg dream land

[neat shuttle]

I don't like that place the most either tbh

it's just... sorta heroic fantasy and I'm not a fan of that

[junior zealot]

like. more fantasy-themed dream land can be cool in concept. but they just wasted it entirely. and it all began by making your character party be the skittles squad

[neat shuttle]

at least Time Beam exists

it helps

[pastel ravine]

I don’t want to hate the dream kingdom but it could stand to be a little more interesting

[timber plaza]

I like Dream kingdom for its aesthetic (It shoved post soppy wet cat Magolor into it)

[neat shuttle]

I'll be honest I do want more themes that are more extra

like... steampunk

[timber plaza]

can’t believe dimensional rift give him new pair of cloths

[small cloak]

dreamy gear mentioned. Technically

[neat shuttle]

I'm just not attracted to fantasy worlds in general

like I don't care about Dark Souls and Elden Ring much for that reason alone

lol

[small cloak]

now that i think about
idrc about the dream kingdom either

it's niceeeee but

[timber plaza]

I’m never forgetting Dreamy Gear for scrapping the master crown top hat, mechanical Lor, and Daroach high heel concept

[neat shuttle]

vut, vul's brother

[small cloak]

😭

[neat shuttle]

the closest to Steampunk is now Air Riders

lol

[small cloak]

they gotta bring back dreamy gear w new fellers it's such a good merch line 💔💔💔

[neat shuttle]

it was so good they made a novel of it

now how about a game

[pastel ravine]

It straight up turned him green

[fast crest]

Shoutouts to Forgotten Land using the time stop theme for timer puzzles and I'm among the few people who knows where it came frooooooom

[neat shuttle]

I do still think Steampunk is a matter of time in Kirby

[junior zealot]

gaaaah can dreamy gear return please

[neat shuttle]

but I dunno if it'll be Dreamy Gear

[small cloak]

pleaaaaase hal I need this my mother's kinda homeless 💔💔💔

[true aurora]

You know I just realized ||Dedede has figures with Kirby and Meta Knight but not Bandee I can’t take it anymore||

[neat shuttle]

||did you know Kirby sleeps with Bandee||

[junior zealot]

||bandee barely has figurines period 💔 ||

||theres like only one line of dialogue in the whole game that acknowledges that bandee even has any relation to dedede 😭 ||

[pastel ravine]

Wtf

[small cloak]

maaaaan

[fast crest]

||Bandana Waddle Dee figures are mostly with Kirby, no? Makes sense to me, he's about the only character of the quartet that has his head on straight that isn't Kirby||

[junior zealot]

i mean idk what hal will do, they can do whatever they want, but, they already have an established sub-series in merch, it would only make sense to expand upon it rather than make stuff up from the ground up

[fast crest]

||Meta Knight just does Meta Knight things, and Dedede's susceptible to brainwashing... plus Bandana Waddle Dee has defied the king on more than one occasion||

||If anything I feel like all this does is establish that Bandana Waddle Dee is now more Kirby's P2 than King Dedede's underling||

[pastel ravine]

|| untrue, everyone in the main quartet has a few screws loose ||

[fast crest]

||I should clarify, I moreso meant in the sense that Fecto Forgo could not brainwash those mofos||

[small cloak]

||Heartwarming ❤️ every1's a little nutty in their own way||

[fast crest]

||Though there is also the excuse of "there needs to be someone to be P2 and Kirby can't make allies in this world"||

[civic sun]

and two adaptations (novel + ongoing manga)

[junior zealot]

yeah

i mainly mentioned merch because its the only thing officially released internationally to some extent

[pastel ravine]

I should read the current Kirby novels

There’s a lot I haven’t read

[pastel ravine]

https://fixupx.com/nintendoeurope/status/1965414895752475066?s=46 amazing video just dropped

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[atomic turtle]

Building a Kirby for before I build the copy ability and then magalor shows up

THERE WERE 3 MORE!

[broken sapphire]

https://fxtwitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/1965414895752475066

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FxTwitter · Sep 9, 2025, 2:00 PM

[keen garnet]

Awww

[slim lodge]

he doesnt even 大王さま him either that got a lot of ppl upset even to this day.

[timber plaza]

DONT REMIND ME

IM STILL HEARTBROKEN

[junior zealot]

i need context

[timber plaza]

After Elfilin was kidnapped, Bandee mentions about Dedede in the Waddle Dee Town

デデデ大王に エフィリンが さらわれちゃったけど だいじょうぶかな…
こうしちゃ いられないね。 ボクたちで エフィリンを たすけてあげようよ!

“King Dedede kidnapped Elfilin”

In past, Bandee has always called King Dedede as “Dedede Daiou sama”
The inclusion and exclusion of sama is extremely important because it’s basically similar to “Great King Dedede” vs “King Dedede”

[autumn turret]

Clearly FL takes place in a parallel where Bandee has no idea who DDD is

[timber plaza]

all the character who works under Dedede calls him “Daiou Sama”, but Bandee in FL calls him “Dedede Daiou” like how character who doesn’t work for him calls him by

[junior zealot]

oh, huh

lol are they seriously retconning bandee from working under dedede or something

[pastel ravine]

Awful if true

[timber plaza]

This brought an extreme heat in the community and people screaming crying and asking if Bandee no longer works for Dedede, or if Dedede is letting Bandee call his name like how others does

[civic sun]

probably not, it has only been one game anyway

[edgy sapphire]

Fired for his crimes in Battle Royale

[junior zealot]

it is rather strange though

i guess i can buy that they are close enough that bandee doesn't refer to him formally anymore

[timber plaza]

We’ll find out in future game I guess

If Bandee calls him Daiou sama or not

This is a crucial detail

[junior zealot]

ik adaptations are not canon, but at least they don't reflect this at all

if bandee is present he is shown to be working for dedede

[timber plaza]

I like to headcanon that Bandee is calling without “sama” because he’s upset he “betrayed” him and the waddle Dee’s temporary

Because he wouldn’t know he was under an influence

Until Redgar

[junior zealot]

i mean its true but they should be self-aware at this point lol

"dedede behaves weirdly? oh hes probably possessed nvm"

[civic sun]

think he's mostly just in a panic/no time for that

[junior zealot]

oh if only bandee was treated less like an afterthought in this game lol

[timber plaza]

||it must be hard as well because the figure description mentions how “he worked with Leongar” so it seems like the waddle dee’s might’ve not noticed he was controlled instead of Dedede selling the Dee’s to the beasts||

||plus they were all sent to the whole different place and it’s just chaos||

[civic sun]

||oh yeah was surprised it was worded like that but it makes sense lol||

[junior zealot]

now air riders. if you have story mode and there is at least one small moment between bandee and dedede i will kiss u

[timber plaza]

Would you kiss paper star

[pastel ravine]

I would agree but he’s still included in cutscenes and such

[junior zealot]

yeah only if you have player two

and he doesnt have too many interesting reactions (or as interesting as i would have liked)

[junior zealot]

im afraid it will give me paper cuts

[pastel ravine]

Not so much an afterthought, more like unfocused

[timber plaza]

Most kissable machine imo

And and warp Star

Always bet on warp star

[junior zealot]

if i kiss warp star i think it will start\ purring like a cat

[timber plaza]

It’ll shine bright

[pastel ravine]

https://fixupx.com/nintendoamerica/status/1965445096540664031?s=46 thanks for that Nintendo

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FixupX · Sep 9, 2025, 4:00 PM

[red mango]

i think they're definitely pushing BWD as more of an ally to Kirby
since suggesting that BWD serves Dedede might not be exactly accurate when Dedede keeps on fighting Kirby

[junior zealot]

what's with nintendo suddenly exploding with scw-related posts today lol

[timber plaza]

Their silence policy ended /j

[pastel ravine]

They scheduled the tweets wrong smh

[civic sun]

realized they've been slacking

[timber plaza]

They’re trying to promote non final boss

But they can’t promote Kirby cafe stuff outside Japan

[junior zealot]

simply put kirby cafe in super nintendo world

(so i will have a reason to want to go there)

[civic sun]

*put Kirby there in general

[timber plaza]

Put magoland

[junior zealot]

merry magoland irl would be better anyway

[pastel ravine]

The entirety of magoland? Gonna have to make some room.

[civic sun]

bombs, this will cause no issues at all

[timber plaza]

Destroy peach castle

[pastel ravine]

Okay fawful

[atomic turtle]

The mask so far (there is so much missing)

[broken sapphire]

i now have 9 alivel mall information kiosk figures
yay

[ruby geode]

that really feels uncanny

[junior zealot]

forgotten land was the first modern game where not all text was written by kumazaki so i feel like this can be an oversight

their connection was acknowledged as recently as in star allies, after all

[timber plaza]

MK sure loves to be near the tree

[junior zealot]

he loves sitting in the shade like a vampire

[lapis reef]

He's the dark and edgy one of the group. He can't be seen in sunlight

[pastel ravine]

What a dork lol

[lapis reef]

(alternatively, it's a kindness to the others because the sun reflecting off his armor would blind anyone in a 5 mile radius)

[junior zealot]

his mask doesnt seem too shiny

shoulder pads though

[timber plaza]

I also wanna see this with FL model

Biiiig dedede and bunch of Dee’s sleeping

[junior zealot]

hmmm...

[timber plaza]

Elfilin and Kirby also in the gang

[junior zealot]

gotta draw that Thinking

[timber plaza]

Meta knight in the shade sitting

[junior zealot]

im actually kinda bored rn and i havent drawn anything in a while so i might as well

[timber plaza]

Pls ping me when you post them, cause I’m going to sleep

[severe palm]

Pong! 286ms

[timber plaza]

Shut the up

[junior zealot]

will do

[timber plaza]

🫡

[true aurora]

Meta eyeing the butterfly is so funny of course he knows something is up😭

[broken sapphire]

HOW DOES DRILL KIRBY DIGGING THROUGH THE GROUND GET HIT BY ATTACKS LITERALLY HOVERING ABOVE THE GRUOND
I DON'T GET IT WHERE IS THE CONSISTENCY!!!!!

[terse swan]

you see the attacks have invisible "roots" hiding underground to attack Kirby from there which is why that happens

[broken sapphire]

i literally fucking died

for the first time in the ultimate cup z ex

lost 2 whole health bars

because drill just gets hit by nothing always

i mean so does every ability

drill is so slow i'm seeing [ultimate cup z ex final boss] attacks i've never seen before

[autumn turret]

Drill's problem is that it does a lot of damage but only if you can set up but like

To set up you really gotta perfectly know what the boss is gonna do

and how drill interacts with attacks ig b/c yea fuck you half the boss's attacks still hit drill

[broken sapphire]

and these bosses move around a lot to so it's often just impossible to even set it up

[autumn turret]

I don't mind DoF in a 3D game nearly as much but every so often there's a shot that reminds me I hate DoF

[agile sigil]

I kinda see Bandana Waddle Dee not referring to Dedede by a more kingly title as like an indication that he's acting way out of character/not King like

Kinda like ||How Commentator Waddle Dee refers to Phantom Forgo Dedede as "some sort of king? I think...". Since it's Dedede not being his usual self the Dees don't see him as much of a king at the time. That's my interpretation at least||

[broken sapphire]

i noticed depth of field the most when taking screenshots of all the new crystal enemies for wikirby 2 days ago
because if you go behind the enemy (relative to the camera) to put the enemy closer to the camera, they get VERY blurry

and then i remembered you could just zoom in by pressing down on the right stick
i don't think anyone ever uses that feature in this game lol

[karmic pebble]

Bomb Kirby should've been a bomberman reference

I say this cause I'm not the biggest fan of og bomb's hat nor a fan of modern bomb's firework blasts

[lapis reef]

I had a moment the other day where I was sure the feature had been in the game, but then I couldn't get it to work so I assumed I had been thinking of Dream Buffet instead

... nope, you just have to hold the stick in for way longer than felt intuitive lol

[broken sapphire]

wdym? it's already a reference to bomberman's iconic party hat!

[autumn turret]

Wait I'm only just realizing this about
Fucking base FL

They gave Bonkers his SSU onigoroshi what the FUCK

[broken sapphire]

his what

[autumn turret]

hammer flip

"flip"

[stuck ether]

AKA Bonkers hits the ground a bit harder, with fire

[broken sapphire]

the real reason it's called hammer flip is because kirby flips people off with it

[pastel ravine]

Do you prefer saving waddle dees or starries?

[autumn turret]

I prefer starries, they taste better

[fast crest]

If they wanted to get sued, sure. Kirby had already replaced an enemy in the series because they realised it bore an uncanny resemblance to Twinbee, so I don't think they're wanting any of Konami's noise here...

[karmic pebble]

damn

[fast crest]

For reference, the enemy in question is Capsule J

the Jet-wielding enemy of Kirby Super Star

Unfortunately for its Waddle Doo-like looks

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/twinbee/images/4/48/TwinBee_-_TwinBee_Taisen_Puzzle-Dama_-_02.png/revision/latest?cb=20140925005815

It kinda looked like this

https://cdn.wikirby.com/8/81/KSS_Capsule_J_Artwork.png

[autumn turret]

Are you like implying this was a coincidence and not a reference lol

[junior zealot]

🗨️

[pastel ravine]

How hungry

[fast crest]

I dunno what the real intention was, but whatever the case, they changed it come the remake

[ruby geode]

jet is destined to always be provided by a new enemy in every game it appears

[fast crest]

compared to the Ultraman reference, the Twinbee resemblance is a little closer to the domain of video games

[autumn turret]

We do not talk about capsule j9

[karmic pebble]

lmao

[fast crest]

We don't even know the name of the enemy that provides it in Kirby Air Riders, but it probably isn't Capsule J4

but that's neither here nor there

[broken sapphire]

if it's not capsule j4 we riot

oh wow holy shit the ice exploit in fl is way easier than i thought

you literally just hold guard and a direction and then slowly mash attack

i just didn't know you had to move too lol

[edgy sapphire]

You don't necessarily have to mash since doing it too fast makes the ice breathe not appear/too short to reach the boss

But yeah it's pretty simple to do the trick

[broken sapphire]

yeah just like mashing with a specific rhythm so it's not just going as fast as possible

z ex ||fuckin morpho knight in z ex is so dang annoying like STOP TELEPORTING EVERY TIME I GET NEAR YOU||

i got a new z ex record with ice by 4 seconds lmao

i now have 9 crystal bronto burt and traffic light figures

[keen garnet]

They changed the thingy

[broken sapphire]

can't believe the made discord look worse again
(i can easily believe this every social platform does this every month)

[distant vortex]

Oh it me

[keen garnet]

Indeed

[distant vortex]

||bit of a stretch, but-||

[keen garnet]

Ouhhshsgahgahh
slowmode icon makes a fading in gradient at the bottom

[broken sapphire]

i have gotten 6/||83|| EX figures to 9

all the volume 1 EX figures are at at least 3

[atomic turtle]

Done so far

How about when you block with it you go underground and the top of the sword work like the twin drill buzz saw and in a 5 second rhythm you leave a bomb that makes fire when it explodes like a molotowcocktail? And maybe you leave a trail of spikes behind you. And maybe the fire burns and freezes at the same time?

I made a little lore to it’s creation

There once were 5 waddle dee engineers that wanted to create a weapon strong enough to defeat everything that tries to destroy the world/universe/multiverse/existens
(just if this scenario occurs someday)
so they created the chaos knight sword…
but there never was someone strong enough to handle it’s power…
so they destroyed it and hide the 5 blue prints…
(there were 5 blue prints for it because it was too complicated to build it to fit on one blue print)…

The only being that can handle that sheer amount of power is kirby!

Kirby is a godk1ller

[broken sapphire]

nuh uh, kirby is a dangerousvillaindefeater

[atomic turtle]

Half his villains want to destroy his planet/world…

[broken sapphire]

and how many succeeded?

[atomic turtle]

0

[atomic turtle]

No body. Because Kirby is a god damn god

[broken sapphire]

a damn god damn!?

[timber plaza]

God

[broken sapphire]

dog

https://tenor.com/view/toby-fox-undertale-annoying-dog-toby-fox-gif-11674292814815309336

[atomic turtle]

?

[timber plaza]

no way the real god

[icy tapir]

||Non-zero chance that this is why Elfilis is a spear wielder and why Lord of Chaos Elfilis has those 4 crystal icicles as weapons||

[civic sun]

||tbh pretty good chance it's a coincidence (especially for the latter part)||

||spear wielders are pretty common in Kirby and pretty sure not many of the SCW people were even involved with SA in major and/or character design way other than the usual Kumazaki and maybe Yukiko Tagawa (probably not but not impossible); could've taken inspiration but it's not likely||

[icy tapir]

what if we modded ||Lord of Chaos Elfilis into Zan Partizanne||

[civic sun]

||reminds me, wish SA artbook gave better notes on who drew what||

[grave swallow]

I'm officially stuck on 21/32 UCZEX abilities

I've gotten fairly close with sword and clutter needle, but everything left feels so hard

I've done all of tier 3/4 and all of hammer, ranger, bomb and fire

I don't even think fire is the 4th best tier 1 lol I think sword is, fire just plays better defense so I won with it even tho it's trash

Hammer, ranger, bomb in that order are pretty clearly the top 3 in tier 1

[autumn turret]

Forgotten land ability tierlist based on how good they are if you don't understand how the ability works

[grave swallow]

Meta knight sword is not very easy to use if you're terrible

Space ranger is VERY good if you're terrible

[autumn turret]

Meta Knight Sword is one of the best options for terrible people b/c just spamming the regular slashes with sword is still pretty strong

Space Ranger is terrible because the regular shots do no damage
Same for Cutter

Those abilities depend entirely on the idea that you will try to charge them

[grave swallow]

You can just play at a distance and rarely get hit with it

[autumn turret]

Hammer also loses 10 million points without charge but its base attacks aren't as utterly useless at leas

[grave swallow]

I actually never charge buzzsaw LMAO

Should I be

But by terrible note that I essentially mean "can't play defense and take tons of hits"

[edgy sapphire]

i think needle should be lower

maybe tornado as well since they're both abilities that requires ppl to know about launching stars at bosses

[stuck ether]

Why's space ranger low??

[edgy sapphire]

• they're bad against minibosses bc they need to face roll around them

[stuck ether]

It's got the BIG FUCKING VORTEX bomb

...Oh wait it's the slowest of the ranger variants

[icy tapir]

youve watched too many streamers

[autumn turret]

Me watching the streamer that never charges shots with ranger or cutter
me watching the streamer that mashes B with fire and ice instead of holding it

[stuck ether]

I really don't get why they dropped pause manuals in this first jump to 3D

[autumn turret]

Because Kirby wanted to be all mainstream smh

[stuck ether]

If this was default fire, mashing B would be a viable strategy...

But Dragon Flame doesn't work like that

[autumn turret]

Imagine it with Volcano Fire watching them shoot a single rock with every B press

You'd think Ice having a completely different attack when you mash would clue them in but

[lapis reef]

tbh, until this exact moment, I thought the first hit from fire did more damage than the stream from holding it. Not that I have any idea where I got that idea from

[autumn turret]

That's true in the 2D games

[lapis reef]

Ah, ok, maybe I subconsciously took it from there

[autumn turret]

Oh right I guess it's still true for base Fire in FL apparently

[lapis reef]

Weird that it's different on just one evo

[autumn turret]

Actually wait mashing B might be stronger on dragon fire too

[stuck ether]

IIRC, Dragon Fire's first breath has some delay

But gotta check if that's even true, not right now unfortunately

[autumn turret]

I do remember the first time I played FL I constantly got annoyed by how long it took for the fire breath to come out to full length on dragon fire

I wasn't sure if it was b/c it came out slower or if it came out at the same speed but Dragon Fire just had more range so it had to travel longer to reach its max length

Looking at videos right now I think it does just come out slower

I also remember it specifically b/c it makes dragon fire have the most unsatisfying dodge slowdown b/c the slowdown seems to actually slow down your fire coming out too for some reason iirc?

[grave swallow]

MASSIVE 1 HP SWORD W

@autumn turret I just saw your name flash "Faye" on my screen before changing to Dyna Blade... are you actually faye lol

[autumn turret]

Wtf how Faye isn't even my username

But yes

[grave swallow]

Discord startup weirdness

Good to know lol

[autumn turret]

Oh wait I guess my main profile name is set to Faye

[grave swallow]

||How do you think Lord of Chaos compares to Pandemonic difficulty wise||

[timber plaza]

Your name is set to Faye?

[autumn turret]

Yea like I forgot there's a main profile thing that has a default display name separate from your username

Before you set per-server-profile nicknames

[grave swallow]

Oh and I saw you took the pandemonic elfilis video down so can you send me a private link

I assume Nintendo asked you to?

Because they wanted to steal from it probably LMAO

[autumn turret]

I don't have a reupload up rn

[grave swallow]

I forget what pandemonic's attacks were, did ||LOC|| use anything similar?

Or ||genwel 1|| even

[autumn turret]

||I should make a video called 'SCW bosses as explained by a raging narcissist' where I compare Genwel and ZEX elfilis to pandemonic elfilis ||

[grave swallow]

Haha do it

[timber plaza]

Ahh yeah real, I forgot I had your name set as Splitting Faye into 4

[grave swallow]

Has anyone beaten pandemonic with unranked tier 1 stuff yet? If not then ||LOC|| is way easier

I've done UCZEX with half of them now and I'm more of a good not great player

[autumn turret]

I don't think anyone's beaten pandemonic with non +⭐ abilities in the first place
I don't even think I can beat it myself with half the +⭐ abilities in the game

[grave swallow]

Damn

[pastel ravine]

I could do it

[edgy sapphire]

i already did it

[grave swallow]

So yeah sounds like no comparison

[pastel ravine]

Sadly, I don’t have the game

[edgy sapphire]

my alternate self from another timeline where I do have a modded switch / workable emu

[autumn turret]

True. wmex would mog

[grave swallow]

I have pandemonic downloaded but for some reason it chugs like hell on yuzu and is unplayable

Any idea why

[pastel ravine]

wmex is a pro gamer

[grave swallow]

Like 15 fps

[autumn turret]

Probably b/c it spawns 10 million attacks
Unless you mean FL in general lags on yuzu and not just the mod specifically

[grave swallow]

Yeah just the first level

[autumn turret]

Ok yea then its probably just your computer's not strong enough for emulating switch games

[grave swallow]

Btw with the mod patched in do you still have to play the entire game to get to do it or does it come unlocked

I mean it's a less than 1yo $1000 surface laptop

[autumn turret]

emulating is a lot more resource intensive than playing a native PC game, you can't just compare how taxing games look

Bro can you even play normal pc games well on a surface laptop

[grave swallow]

I can play Dolphin

[autumn turret]

You still have to play through the game
You can just download a save file somewhere and load it into the emulator though

[edgy sapphire]

yea a laptop is not gonna cut it unless you got like a pretty high end gaming one & it's a fresh one

[grave swallow]

Yeah that'd work if I could figure out the lag issue

Damn that's tough

[autumn turret]

Well a Switch is way more powerful than a Wii and Dolphin's just a relatively better built program than any switch emulator is

Honestly the switch needing a super strong computer to emulate is the biggest barrier to more people modding star allies or FL instead of RtDL Wii for the 15th year

[grave swallow]

Really wanted to play it, I think I'm good enough at the game to do it with at least toy/masked hammer/morpho

AFAIK he doesn't have any extra HP right

How much HP does ||LOC|| have, it's definitely more than chaos

[autumn turret]

Can't datamine Switch 2 yet so no clue

I mean people could probably test/measure it just off of experience

[grave swallow]

Oh and do you know of like anyone who's recorded a PE clear and has not enough views to get taken down

[autumn turret]

no

[grave swallow]

I imagine you're not the only person who's ever beaten him LOL

[autumn turret]

Probably

[grave swallow]

Your original clear video was it on spring breeze with all buffs?

[autumn turret]

Yes

[grave swallow]

And then the ex version, did you ever actually beat that idr

[autumn turret]

idr either

[grave swallow]

Haha

That like has a ton of the dodge windows removed or smth iirc?

||Like stupid genwel 1 laser||

[autumn turret]

uhhhhhhhhh
I think I just made a bunch of attacks in phase 1 ignore dodge invincibility and guard and both phases faster

[grave swallow]

Ouch, guard too?!

That's normally the one way to deal with the few no dodge attacks

Just facetank them in guard lol

[autumn turret]

if pand elfilis is horror in all its beauty pand ex is like
a dying druggie on the street vomiting blood

[grave swallow]

The normal version is trying to be fun for like someone who can 33/33 UCZ, ex is just transparent kaizo BS

Seems to be the sentiment there

[autumn turret]

EX is the definition of an unwanted child

[edgy sapphire]

real shame (never actually tested yet if my desktop could run a switch emu yet)

[grave swallow]

Has anyone beaten it

[autumn turret]

Probably not

[edgy sapphire]

might be able to at least reach a decent performance w/ a 4070 & a 14 core cpu (i think)

havent really looked at my specs in a while

[autumn turret]

Pretty sure that's better than my PC so yea that should work

[twin junco]

beat uczex with only crouch slide attack

[grave swallow]

Ok that's kinda insane?

[autumn turret]

I think they were making a joke demand, not saying that they did it lol

[grave swallow]

Ah ok

[twin junco]

yeah lmfao

[autumn turret]

But I mean you could do that with sword so

[edgy sapphire]

beating ZEX by holding gigant's guard

first ever 2 hour run

[grave swallow]

What's harder, that or pandemonic elfilis

[twin junco]

i totally would do that if i had the patience to deal with ||500 self heals from elfilis||

[grave swallow]

Hey, it's a guaranteed win

[edgy sapphire]

there's a limit on heals so it's not impossible

[twin junco]

this is killing me bro was in awe 😭

[grave swallow]

If anyone needed a 34th ability to do, there you go

[pastel ravine]

[twin junco]

does the regular crouch slide even connect with ||chaos elfilis orb form||

[autumn turret]

Regular crouch slide doesn't damage bosses in general

[twin junco]

oh bother

[autumn turret]

Honestly I thought that was the joke you were making when you said it

[grave swallow]

Rip

[twin junco]

nah im just a lil stupid and thought it was one of them theoretically possible things

ig base sword crouch slide will have to do

[grave swallow]

I vaguely remember pandemonic having something like that spinny gaster blaster pattern that ||LOC|| got, am I right

[autumn turret]

Fun fact about that is I didn't actually make that, that was just unused in the code

[grave swallow]

So then they gave it to ||LOC||

[autumn turret]

||they don't have it they just have a cross that rotates instead of a bunch of lasers that fire in place on a rotating axis||

[grave swallow]

Yeah I don't exactly remember the version pandemonic has

[edgy sapphire]

landia moment

[autumn turret]

||What if I call it a Sectonia moment ||

[edgy sapphire]

only if it was moving in short bursts

[autumn turret]

||Doesn't it move smoothly in story mode and only move in ticks for soul||

[grave swallow]

Oh btw how many abilities (base level) have yall done UCZEX with so far

Just hit my 22nd

[edgy sapphire]

does it even have that type of move in story mode/reg secc?

[autumn turret]

Yea its just one of those moves you only see if you take 10 million years to beat the boss

[edgy sapphire]

damb

[grave swallow]

I love letting soul of sectonia live a while, the patterns get disgusting

[stuck ether]

So a crystal meteor strikes an Earth-like planet... it contorts the world around it, the creatures "enhanced" by its presence...

The meteor's influence spreads, it's shimmering aura taking hold of more land...

And at the [Final Boss] ||center of it all, A godly being from space, tasked to annihilate this planet...||

Hrm, this all sounds familiar...

[grave swallow]

||they should've given genwel only one wing LOL||

[stuck ether]

Golly gee where have I heard such an id-

https://youtu.be/NCuBalItZA8?feature=shared

[mint swan]

So I finished SCW what the actual FUCK

[autumn turret]

mood

[edgy sapphire]

still got the arena left if you havent done it yet

[stuck ether]

None of the study guide questions are on the test

[mint swan]

Have not

Me and my sister completed it together

Shit you not we were like

||Genwel Meteoelfilis appears "oh shit"||

||We defeat it "YEAH!!!"||

||Second phase "Fuck!"||

||Defeats it "Yeah!"||

||Eyeball shows up "BUTTFUCK!"||

[edgy sapphire]

the average kirby final boss experience

[stuck ether]

It was a big mistake going with UN-upgraded default abilities

[edgy sapphire]

another phase for everyone

[mint swan]

||I kept saying "I’M SO SORRY FOR DRAGGING YOU INTO THIS" to her as she panicked around Genwel’s giant hands||

[edgy sapphire]

I did mine losing my ability half way on my first fight when ||genwel grows big|| cuz I accidentally spat it out

honestly made the ||void eyeball phase|| better since there was more tension to the fight

||since all other vids I've seen against it just bumrushed the crystal in like 3 seconds||

[mint swan]

||I did it no abilities until the Mookie showed up 😭||

I literally yelled "FORGET IT"

||Toy Hammer saving the universe once again||

[autumn turret]

||Crystalized big enemies which do 10 million damage and have inhale resistance vs normal Kirby moment||

[edgy sapphire]

real

[mint swan]

No joke me and my sister were PANICKING

I’m pretty sure the neighbors thought we were being stabbed

[edgy sapphire]

||imagine if it spawned in those snakes that could grab you a mile away and stalled for the soul crash||

[stuck ether]

There's glass everywhere

[stuck ether]

That would suck

[autumn turret]

God

[edgy sapphire]

FL has some evil enemies

[mint swan]

No joke my sister isn’t a Kirbyhead so it was like

[edgy sapphire]

something like Jabhog would be devastating as well

[mint swan]

I yelled to her "RUUUUN"

We sound so dramatic but it’s just twin stuff 😭

[slim lodge]

🤝 playing scw with ur twin >>>>

only difference is that my twin is a kirbyhead too so we were geeking out 😭

[mint swan]

Yo fellow twin

She thinks Kirby is cute but she’s not crazy like me

Can’t wait to do UCZEX

[timber plaza]

I wish I had a sibling 😭 I did it with my mother

[edgy sapphire]

if you're not great with boss endurances, dont be afraid of using buffs/maxed out abilities like toy hammer since it can get pretty rough

[mint swan]

oh trust me I have an army of amiibo as well

[timber plaza]

Her ranking being Bandee was
Base > SCW > Forgo in terms of the mode
She disliked how long the mouthful segment was for many stages in SCW like the earlier stage, and Bandee barely got to do much (similar problem in base game but she said it was worse)

[mint swan]

I also brought my Kirby Elfilin and Bandee plushies out for good luck

[timber plaza]

Forgo for her was too much, very confusing and things went too fast for her to follow on many aspects

She loved how pretty the crystals were for SCW, and she enjoyed UCZEX

[autumn turret]

Jabhog belongs in hell with its invincible ass

[mint swan]

My dad was just watching us and said ||"Oh no it’s Sauron" at the final phase||

[timber plaza]

(She didn’t like UCZ)

I offered her to be Kirby but she said she doesn’t want to be one

[mint swan]

I wish my mom liked games

[keen garnet]

||Genwel should've just used the best Beast Pack member, Tropic Woods' fences ||

[slim lodge]

my mom just doesnt understand the kirby life 😔

[mint swan]

I would’ve shat the bed and cried

[timber plaza]

My mother doesn’t like Kirby that much but she plays it with me because she feels bad I’m only child 😭

We’re going to Hankyu collab next month and try the SCW cafe menu

So I’m glad she played SCW with me

[slim lodge]

my mom knows magolor by name though but she hid my plush one day and i freaked out

[autumn turret]

||Genwel should've just floated up like he does when he prepares to slam down and then just stayed there instead
Is he stupid||

[mint swan]

My sister is a big fan of cinematography and stuff so in the middle of the fight she calmly went "woah it’s so beautiful" before ||Genwel Meteoelfilis threw a bunch of sword beams at her||

[timber plaza]

||my mother noticed spaceship new world looked like Lor and she said “that thing looks like the one ship you scream over all the time playing RTDLDX”||

[stuck ether]

...I wonder what's it like to live with a Magolor fan

[timber plaza]

Horrible

[mint swan]

||wait we saw the ship the people left in||

[stuck ether]

I am very dissapointed in my status as a Marx fan

I don't obsess about hurting him as I used to, n'or do I draw him often

[lapis reef]

It's ||in a gacha figure, and I think there's some before the final boss?||

[timber plaza]

||the prototype is a figure + can be seen in the background right before final boss||

[mint swan]

Oh my goodness gracious is there a picture

I’m out of starry coins

[timber plaza]

||Not figure but||

[mint swan]

Woah

[stuck ether]

Holy shit it's him

||Doom Guy||

[timber plaza]

||Probably easier to see it with this as reference||

[mint swan]

||So I guess that’s the final nail in the coffin for "New World folk moved to Halcandra"||

[keen garnet]

||also appears in whats their face's big meteor debris thingy||

[stuck ether]

Down to that one specific detail that removes all doubt

[timber plaza]

||I’ve always wanted to lick the window||

[mint swan]

Bro you’re gonna get a cold

[stuck ether]

Better get a shot afterwards

[mint swan]

||Adding this to the line of evidence that the New World folk moved to Halcandra btw||

[stuck ether]

You know, I'm starting to notice a resemblance in the ||architecture||... Hrm... coincidence??

[mint swan]

https://tenor.com/view/coincidence-i-think-not-coincidence-i-think-not-the-incredibles-gif-5096707

||Star-Crossed World is making me hyped for what the next mainline Kirby game will be like||

This was just a little treat and we got ||Genwa Meteoelfilis||

Also my sister kept making K-Pop Demon Hunters jokes because ||Genwel kinda sounds like Gwi-Ma||

[autumn turret]

||ME and SCW
Gotten crumbs twice since 2022 I need a new full mainline||

[edgy sapphire]

sorry, gotta wait until kirby's 35 anniversary for a new mainline

[mint swan]

||I wonder if a new mainline will be revealed either September or February||

[edgy sapphire]

you'll get spin offs here on out

[lapis reef]

Can it be a spin off that's actually a full game and not just a tiny eshop thing?

[autumn turret]

I can't wait for air riders to give me
uh idk susie animations ig

[timber plaza]

I can’t wait for air riders to drop a lore that Kumazaki is Magolor and Sakurai is Waddle Dee

[mint swan]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mad-puppet-the-amazing-world-of-gumball-mr-robinson-gif-11888895225897325073

[edgy sapphire]

the only content you'll get from here on are videos like "The Evolution of Air Ride Final Bosses (2003 - 2025) 10:01" with a thumbnail of dedede and fake screenshots of void, dark matter, galacta & the dark rider except it's purple

for the next 2 years

[pastel ravine]

I call em the shadow rider

[lapis reef]

Dark Biker

[timber plaza]

Dedede x Dark Matter Sans oc fanchild

[autumn turret]

||Oh wtf
Chaos Elfilis's black hole in ZEX does like no damage||

||This looks like maybe 55, 60 damage or something||

[mint swan]

Say it was ||Welcome to the New World that was played aboard the departing ships right||

[autumn turret]

||It was Twinkling Star Showers||

||Welcome to the New World was probably the song the ship figure said was used to make people feel safe about boarding but the twinkling star showers sign figure says it was twinkling star showers that was playing on the ship||

[nimble pewter]

wait

in the jp version

does announcer waddle dee say ||morpho knight is a male in JP||

||or is it english version only||

fay?

[timber plaza]

New present code カービィカフェでスターリーワールド
KA-BYIKAFEdeSUTA-RI-WA-RUDO
https://x.com/kirby_jp/status/1965687179642053008?s=46

星のカービィ (@Kirby_JP)

ただいまカービィカフェ ザ・ストアで、『星のカービィ ディスカバリー Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + スターリーワールド』で使えるプレゼントキーワードを掲示中！
また、カービィカフェではゲームをイメージした2つのコラボメニューも♪どちらも要チェックで...

X · Sep 10, 2025, 8:01 AM

Welp

[icy tapir]

whats the. code

[junior zealot]

what is it about

[timber plaza]

カービィカフェでスターリーワールド
KA-BYIKAFEdeSUTA-RI-WA-RUDO

I love getting more regular coin!

[icy tapir]

Kirby Cafe Starry Waorld

[timber plaza]

oughhghghhghg the cafe reservation for october starts in 20 min

[autumn turret]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-gif-gif-25212150

[timber plaza]

got 2 reservations for october

I cant wait to ||crunch onto mefilis|| /j

[native mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/doakes-bar-gif-4298875606784040546

[atomic turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-squint-stare-suspicious-gif-14432154109786838518

[junior zealot]

thats actually scary if this means anything

||i dont want to meet giant starries lmao||

[native mauve]

||I'm like genuinely convinced those have to be the gems they're born from||

||What else would it be IT GOT THE SAME SHAPE !!!||

[junior zealot]

||me when it all wraps back around to return to dream land again, somehow||

[native mauve]

||Also would explain why the Jamba Heart looks similar to the sealed meteors ig, both are crystals from another dimension or whatever lol||

[atomic turtle]

But I want… GIVE ME THE STARY KNIGHT!

[atomic turtle]

Maybe if there are many small crystals they become one big one

[atomic turtle]

Why do many people not talk to the waddle dee engineer? He explains everything very good…

[timber plaza]

Pinning this because it’s too hilarious

[atomic turtle]

I made a reasonable price for it:D! 5 Blueprints, 50 stars and 50k coins

I mean… it can defeat big gorilla with one attack

[stiff pollen]

UCZ EX ||Leongar phase 2 be like||

[native mauve]

||Imma assume the glowy stuff that gathers around when Galacta Knight gets sealed are the Starries||

[icy tapir]

yeah but the thing about ||GK is that starries and GK share a motif and are now linked via descriptions||

I think ||GK is either part starry or has some part of starries inside of him||

[pastel ravine]

|| either way he’s a fraud ||

[tired escarp]

Genuine question: why didn't the Switch 2 Edition of Kirby and the Forgotten Land get Online GameShare? It would have been a perfect introduction to actual Online Multiplayer in a mainline Kirby game.

If Mario 3D World can get Online GameShare, so could this game.

[agile sigil]

^^^

[ruby geode]

to be fair, forgotten land is the worst game out of the mainlines to get this feature

I think they are just going to do it in KSA and/or RtDLD

plus switch 2 editions and gameshare are different things

[tired escarp]

fair, that's what I'm thinking, too. But I sadly doubt KSA Switch 2 Edition is happening, let alone RTDX Switch 2 Edition. Would absolutely love to be proven wrong, though

[ruby geode]

why do you doubt it?

[timber plaza]

Game share rtdldx would be dream come true (I can finally brag people with magoland and Magolor epilogue)

[tired escarp]

True, but GameShare is still a major Switch 2 feature, so it would make sense to introduce it in a Switch 2 Edition of a game

[ruby geode]

after the ||secret elfilin dialogue in japanese dropped the term "dream friends" word to word I'm like hmmmm||

[ruby geode]

yeah but these things aren't mutually inclusive is what I'm trying to get at

[timber plaza]

||we’re actually getting KSA2||

[tired escarp]

||If it ever happens, I really hope it has excellent level design, despite being Multiplayer Focused. That's my only issue when replaying Star Allies's Story Mode||

Like RTDX tier of Level Design

[ruby geode]

incompatible things

RtDL level design is single player

[twin junco]

the humble nsmbwii (funny ass roller coaster level)

[civic sun]

think this is the one that was at the Cafe itself, just posted more publicly now right

[timber plaza]

Yes it’s the one from the cafe

[agile sigil]

UCZEX ||Barely Beat the cup with no retries with Dragon Fire||

[mint swan]

The world’s are star crossed

||Elfilis time traveled???||

[native mauve]

???

where did u get that from

[mint swan]

||You listed the whole Elfilis was attracted by the song after mentioning their arrival||

[native mauve]

||The song presumably played in the ships across space-time, so it may have also played in the past.||

[mint swan]

This is insane

[native mauve]

||It does not mean Elfilis time traveled there though. Not what I'm implying at all.||

[mint swan]

Oh wait I get it now