#[SPOILERS] Star-Crossed World

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remote remnant
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Ancients has been used in so many different contexts in this series too

sudden onyx
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(100%) ||I always assumed it is an AI copy of her is made to soothe people on their journey to another dimension, not literally Neichel is Lor, because she mentioned she choose to stay in new world. I think most people just simpliflied that into Neichel is Lor so we can make jokes about the MagolorxLor sticker||

broken sapphire
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||i still don't understand why the "ai copy" idea is so popular already||

timber plaza
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||I still think this song has double story/meaning. Neichel’s story and Magolor’s story. It kinda just make sense for both character’s cases, I guess? Possibly having some similar experiences but in different way. Magolor and Neiche could be a parallel to each other.||

Crack theory:
||Imagine Neichel ends up in Dream Kingdom. That’s where she spent rest of her life, and wrote Green Tree Memories. And pass it down to whoever that sees them in the future. Which was something she dreamed of, a story of team Kirby clash, or could be another prophecy that will save the future of what’s about to come.||

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Ugh

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Hate discord mobile

remote remnant
broken sapphire
heady quiver
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New theory:

timber plaza
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||Bro is truly everywhere, everything||

timber plaza
true aurora
sudden onyx
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Sure, but at some point we have to distinguish between people that have always been in the Dream Land dimension and their decendants compare to people from the new world, and also who is from the magical clan and the scientific ones. And that is what people are actually discussing rather than if the ancient are one race or not

junior zealot
# heady quiver New theory:

||what if neichel is like miku of kirby universe and this is magolor randomly cosplaying as her meanwhile lor is like. wtf man||

timber plaza
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||Magolor’s gender is unknown, clearly this hints something||

junior zealot
heady quiver
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||Neichel is 100% the miku of kirby||

junior zealot
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im cooking

timber plaza
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||A lot of character is stated as unknown but Magolor is no different yeah. Usually shown as he/him, but he was never proven further||

junior zealot
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like chef kawasaki

remote remnant
junior zealot
remote remnant
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||I think it's enough for people to begin speculating that way||

lapis reef
broken sapphire
heady quiver
remote remnant
icy tapir
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wyhat about ||m,agolor s pronouns in the novels||

timber plaza
# broken sapphire ||why do you think the first part||

||A lot of the sentence lines up with Magolor’s story. (Specifically Japanese), the amount of keywords that relates to Magolor, how 3 major food that showed up are all kind of related to Magolor’s appearances. The parallel of Wondaria vs Magoland. While NOT every lyrics are exactly the way Magolor’s story are being told, if you connect each other keyword together, it does look like you can make this song about Magolor, or heavily reference him the entire song||

broken sapphire
pastel ravine
sudden onyx
# lapis reef I personally don't buy the "there were exactly two groups of ancients - one did ...

It doesn't even have to be just two groups of ancient clans and it being two races, we got that info from Hyness and it probably meant the magical ones are native to Kirby's dimension (probably includes Hyness and Magic Sister which already are different races) and the scientific ones are from new world as they very likely created Lor, star rod and such as Magolor claimed, and any more about being more races are just speculations on how the society works and isn't that important

broken sapphire
vocal sparrow
remote remnant
lapis reef
heady quiver
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Anyway this is so canon. Like unbelievably canon

timber plaza
broken sapphire
junior zealot
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||tbf i think magolor has a genuine passion for this sort of thing. i mean merry magoland is like the best mini-game centric thing in the franchise||

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||like we gotta give him credit||

timber plaza
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||Also nothing huge but I could lowkey see that unfinished song never had a name on who wrote them. Hence why Neichel added a Morse code in the end, or because Neichel died or abandoned the song and somehow created the Morse code. Or other way around, she added the Morse code so that people won’t forget, or that people who can’t read the new world language, might be able to understand the Morse code and will remember her name?||

neat shuttle
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||what is Pop Star? the planet or Neichel, you have two hours||

timber plaza
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||wow Magolor is like me. I’ve always wanted to design theme park and video games. Before Magoland was announced. Even tho I got the theme park design dream after RTDL/DC. but you know. It’s funny for me lol||

neat shuttle
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In a way you just keep winning

junior zealot
broken sapphire
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fun fact: if you combine every regular stage, starry stage, and treasure road stage, forgotten land switch 2 edition has a total of ||109|| stages

junior zealot
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goddamn

broken sapphire
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granted over half of those are treasure roads lmao

junior zealot
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i hope next 3d game at least has more stages in general

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maybe like fl has combined with the dlc

broken sapphire
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true

neat shuttle
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||it's not 86 stages I'm sad||

heady quiver
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I am kinda bummed we didn’t ||get any more treasure roads||

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but whatever

timber plaza
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||where’s my copy ability based of Mefilis smh||

lapis reef
heady quiver
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yeah

broken sapphire
timber plaza
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||I was hoping for sleep upgrade…||

neat shuttle
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||we need playable sleep||

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||let Kirby make enemies go to sleep||

lapis reef
# broken sapphire ||bandana dee evolution||*

They should have at least ||made Bandee look more powerful when Kirby has evolved abilities. Even just some extra particles, etc, would go a long way towards making it feel better||

broken sapphire
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man these clockers fucking suck at bringing these waddle dees to lab discovera. all they're doing is just flying in place smh

timber plaza
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Wait wait

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Not spoiler really but

neat shuttle
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remember when they added The Dream Discovery Tour to the Waddle Dee playlist

timber plaza
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Did the figure ever mentioned about how astronomer Dee took a boat to the volcano?

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In English?

broken sapphire
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nope

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just says

Astronomer Waddle Dee is passionate about research, especially legendary-meteor research. So he rushed to the volcanic island with the other Waddle Dees. His hobbies include collecting shiny coins and figures and catching up with his good pal and research partner Wise Waddle Dee.

timber plaza
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NOOOOOO

small cloak
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huh

timber plaza
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The boat mentioned was cute </3

neat shuttle
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tbh we do see boats in FL stages so it's not like we wouldn't have guessed

timber plaza
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Magolor went on a boat with other Dee’s to the volcano the moment the meteor fell

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NOT MAGOLOR

pastel ravine
timber plaza
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I MEANASTRONOMER

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😭 😭 😭 😭

lapis reef
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Your auto correct is working overtime

pastel ravine
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|| Fake ā€œ researcherā€ ass ||

neat shuttle
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Astro Boat

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oh wait that's-

timber plaza
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But yeah astronomer dee went on a boat to see the situation, which is funny to think of considering they arrived before the Kirby arrived with warp Star 😭 😭 😭 😭

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Maybe astronomer dee was standing by the coast

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ā€œThis thing should fall in few secondsā€

lapis reef
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Yeah maybe they just saw it coming ahead of time

neat shuttle
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Astro Dee on his Astro Boat

neat shuttle
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||the Astro Boat is the Lor Starcutter||

broken sapphire
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i finally tested the hammer super jump glitch and can confirm that it's patched 😭😭😭😭

timber plaza
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||Im still sad they barely got anything after opening. But it’s fair that they can’t go on adventure since they’re not capable of fighting, hence why they’re more talented in different stuff||

timber plaza
broken sapphire
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it would've been really fun to explore the new stages out of bounds but oh well šŸ˜”

timber plaza
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I was trying it earlier like 6-7 times and didn’t work

neat shuttle
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||Astro Dee is just||

sudden onyx
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All the super jump glitches are patch

lapis reef
broken sapphire
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this also means ultimate cup z ex speedruns won't be nearly as broken as regular cup z ones since you can't do the ability refresh glitch thing

timber plaza
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I’m sad we can’t duplicate the funny chaos Elfilis in UCZ anymore </3
I wanted to see how many Elfilis I could spawn on NS2 edition before it crashes the game

icy tapir
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what is ability refresh thing

timber plaza
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Like you can do it without the hammer, BUT you can’t do it anymore because the invisible wall might be taller

broken sapphire
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you could go out of bounds in the waiting room with the hammer glitch to reset the copy essences that were there to get crash every single time

timber plaza
tidal spindle
patent sluice
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so I 100% SCW but where ||is the unfinished niechel song?||

broken sapphire
neat shuttle
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||you need the HAL Room||

lapis reef
patent sluice
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i got it

pastel ravine
patent sluice
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i used it to grind coins

timber plaza
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||you don’t need HAL room, funny enough||

keen garnet
timber plaza
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||to unlock the final song||

glass pulsar
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||Crack theory: What if the "you" in that song is actually a specific person that Neichel cared about who left with the spaceship while Neichel stayed behind. Like her girlfriend or whatever.||

neat shuttle
broken sapphire
timber plaza
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||because there’s been people missing all HAL room music and still got it||

broken sapphire
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i left that message unspoilered solely because it's really funny out of context

neat shuttle
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I do not understand then

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legit

timber plaza
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Yeah we don’t exactly know anything

timber plaza
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They never really clarified the reasons

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Cause funny moment!

tidal spindle
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||Niechel is waiting in town and is personally judging you to determine if you deserve the final song marxism||

lapis reef
broken sapphire
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HEY WAIT A MINUTE I JUST REALIZED NONE OF THE NEW STAGES ||HAD INVINCIBLE CANDIES!!!||

stuck ether
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Not sure how one is meant to get the [100% completion] ||Final Song||, I kinda had to re-load for it to show up

timber plaza
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||or could imply that Kirby simply just ate them all||

lapis reef
stuck ether
true aurora
timber plaza
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||imagine a starry ver of invincible candy…||

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||the music…||

patent sluice
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100% ||okay so can someone explai nto me the niechel lore thats insane cause I dont see it even after listening to the 100% song||

timber plaza
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||its mainly the Japanese version||

icy tapir
stuck ether
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HAL has failed us

neat shuttle
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HAL failed

icy tapir
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someone rpboably told them to get ||HAL room but that reloaded the room||

tidal spindle
stuck ether
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Region locking their lore like the good ol days

timber plaza
stuck ether
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(More like implications that heavily recontextualize things but whatever)

lapis reef
patent sluice
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okay whats the japanese lore then

true aurora
tidal spindle
lapis reef
broken sapphire
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||me looking at all the wondaria advertisements in alivel mall, knowing exactly why they exist now||:

timber plaza
stuck ether
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"Hey do you know what girl? What's her name? Anyways, so yeah Magolor-"

timber plaza
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There’s a Bananza interview going on, so I can imagine next being Jamboree TV or SCW

stuck ether
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No matter what game, it always ||Returns To Dreamland||

true aurora
timber plaza
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I can’t wait for Jamboree TV interview being 5 months long

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And SCW doesn’t get one till next year

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Or doesn’t get one at all

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Which is… possible

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Unless Air Riders takes over completely, I can imagine getting one

neat shuttle
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you get

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Kumazaki and Sakurai on the same interview

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and I don't even rule that out

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lol

tidal spindle
timber plaza
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Also I still can’t believe Wanya Wanya Max Warp Star referenced anime

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In Japanese ver

patent sluice
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100% ||oh i get it now i thought there was insane lore revelation but its more just storytelling again. So Niechel wrote twinkling star showers and it transcended time and space and drew elfilis to the world, is that right?||

broken sapphire
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NEVER FORGET HOW THEY TOOK "WANYA" FROM US

neat shuttle
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MORE LIKE

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WA-W-

timber plaza
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What was the English one lol

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I haven’t seen it

broken sapphire
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wa-wa wa-wa 😭

neat shuttle
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Wa-Wa Wa-Wa Warp Star Max

timber plaza
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LOOOL

broken sapphire
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that's the case for the whole game

timber plaza
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and I’m assuming no anime reference as well?

broken sapphire
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EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T FUCKING WAY WAWA THEY SAY WANYA!!!!

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Kirby rescues Waddle Dees, and they hop on a star and head to town for a reunion with the others. Look how many Kirby rescued in one stage! How many can fit on a star?

neat shuttle
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I would be fine sacrificing Kirby of the Stars to make room for Wanya

broken sapphire
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HOLY SHIT I ATE ALL THE BANANAS IN thebrawlatthemall IN ONE SINGLE INHALE FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER

neat shuttle
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WE DESERVE WANYA

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make Kirby Mass Attack back to its original roots

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it's all Waddle Dees now

tidal spindle
vocal sparrow
lapis reef
pastel ravine
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wa-wa is so lame

neat shuttle
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would be it funny if a new anime happened

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and Waddle Dees just love saying wanya in it

small cloak
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fr but I Would Not sacrifice kirby of the stars for wanya

neat shuttle
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they end a sentence with WANYA

sudden onyx
# broken sapphire ||i still don't understand why the "ai copy" idea is so popular already||

||I feel like the AI copy theory got popular because the English version of the song implies a lot more that the song is in first person about the experiences of Lor (especially the I hope I don't meet me line) with beep boops, and the actual her didn't go but it still credits Neichel. While we know from RtDLDX that Lor has a mind of its own which stopped Magolor plans temporarily so there is some autonomy from the ship AI, so people naturally slotted her in. Besides, if they just wanted to soothe those who boarded, they can just record the track and plays it like normal and doesn't have to use an AI copy of her. Her getting prophetic dreams might be the reason why people still want a copy of her on board and helming the whole ship even if she didn't want to go. (And even if this is a different continuity, didn't people used to pray for Lor in the manga?)

However, the Japanese version talks about a lot more of actual Neichel's feeling on the new world after they left and does not have much connecting to Lor beside the white wings line, and that might be implying death more without the other context Eng version got.

Given how much more specific English version is about the Lor correlations because it fitted more meaning with the same amount of syllables, did they truly have no supervision from Kumazaki and Treehouse winged it? I highly doubt it.||

small cloak
neat shuttle
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200% improvement to the game

timber plaza
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@broken sapphire I just noticed your reply to my tweet
You DO NOT agree 😭 😭 😭 😭

tidal spindle
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What was the tweet?

velvet moss
broken sapphire
velvet moss
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||tho there is gachapons and stuffs.||

sudden onyx
timber plaza
junior zealot
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it doesnt even sound like wa-wa

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what is this gaslighting on the part of nintendo treehouse

broken sapphire
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maybe they had their game muted on accident

timber plaza
velvet moss
timber plaza
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Wa-wa sounds like a name of place

wild stirrup
velvet moss
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Wawa is a gas station

timber plaza
wild stirrup
timber plaza
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No wonder why

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YEAH

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I REMMEBER SEEING IT DURING MY INTERNSHIP AT DISNEY

broken sapphire
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during your what

timber plaza
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During my internship at Disney

broken sapphire
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i did not know you were a disney employee

neat shuttle
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the Wawa gas station

timber plaza
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I still have my blue ID lol (Disney ID)

broken sapphire
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wow

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can you tell me what mickey mouse is like i've always wanted to meet him

timber plaza
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Mickey destroyed all my Magolor merch because they’re rivals

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Same goes to my Wondaria merch smh

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I’m still sad the Wondaria merchline barely had actual Wondaria

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they even had souvenir shop dee from magoland as a character for Wondaria merch

tidal spindle
small cloak
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unfortunate missed opportunity

heady quiver
timber plaza
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I wanted the Eggers dog duo </3

sudden onyx
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This is a hot take but I prefer the Waddle Dees to be silent and I find the wanyas annoying and unnecessary

timber plaza
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||I still wonder if Egg Engines (Egger Engines in JPN) were referencing Wonducks Eggers and Wondari Eggers||

neat shuttle
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sorry I love the wanyas

timber plaza
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Wanya is a bless to this world

sudden onyx
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It's fine, it is just my opinion

tidal spindle
timber plaza
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BAHAHAHAHA

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IM SORRY

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BUT

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😭 😭 😭

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||SLAAAAAY||

sudden onyx
tidal spindle
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||ITS NOT THW SAME
I WAS THINKING OF CLAWS! AND LEON HAS CLAWS ||

timber plaza
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||Caroline and Leongar making meteor nails||

sudden onyx
timber plaza
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||unfortunately my favorite nails are Magolor Sou-||

sudden onyx
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Ayy, my edits on the final boss have been accepted

timber plaza
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||Neichel when the meteor falls down (she uses the piece of meteor as her nail decoration)||

lapis reef
neat shuttle
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100% ||currently doing more pass on effects on that teto cover because something always bothered me and I just fixed it||

calm cobalt
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||you know, I always headcannoned the vocals of moonstruck blossom to be sectonia herself singing. Star Crossed World bringing those vocals back is incredibly funny to me because its like they resurrected sectonia just to sing in the background||

tidal spindle
true aurora
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||Oh the crystal nails would send me lol||

red mango
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||the theory that the ancient civilization landed in the dream kingdom is funny to me because that implies there's a slim chance they immediately established an alivel mall there Kapar ||

timber plaza
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(Or meteor like ahh)

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I wanna like

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Crack them in pieces and use it as a dress or jewelry

true aurora
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D-Mind looks like he's bracing for impact in that second pic lol

timber plaza
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Yeah he died after /lh

lapis reef
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That's the Clash friend meteor thing, so yeah he better brace for impact

timber plaza
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They used it for Landia as well

elder vortex
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when is kirby cafe gonna start serving them

timber plaza
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This is the exact reason why we got meteor themed cafe menu

elder vortex
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based

timber plaza
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We got one for the new Carby mouth starry version

tidal spindle
timber plaza
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And we got SCW meteor themed drink

tidal spindle
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That can’t be healthy

timber plaza
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I heard they’re pretty good

elder vortex
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you dont know that

timber plaza
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So I can’t wait to try it

elder vortex
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legends has it they have an insane amount of vitamin d

timber plaza
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Vitamin (King) D-Mind

elder vortex
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šŸ”„ āœļø

sudden onyx
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Has anyone actually gotten the sparkly-eyed burger and crystal hat car cake? I have only seen it in the figures

tidal spindle
timber plaza
lapis reef
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They certainly know how to make nice presentation. Looks so pretty

sudden onyx
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It is promotion for the real life cafe?

timber plaza
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Yes

lapis reef
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Yeah this is real stuff from the real cafe

timber plaza
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It released on the release day of SCW

icy tapir
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forgotten land is the most unserious game ever

-# #txt #kirby #kirby and the forgotten land #katfl #kirby star crossed world #kirby spoilers #star crossed world spoilers #elfilin #fecto forgo #fecto elfilis #chaos elfilis #n that other guy #flashing cw

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i saw this post

sudden onyx
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It isn't actually in-game?

timber plaza
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The Carby is in game

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Random low chance of getting it

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The drink isn’t, those are exclusive to real life Kirby cafe

cloud olive
sudden onyx
pastel ravine
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How does Elfilin eat

timber plaza
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Similar to waddle dee!

lapis reef
pastel ravine
timber plaza
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Probably considering we have a lot of character without mouth

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And so they would eat mysteriously

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And kiss mysteriously

lapis reef
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They just eat, don't ask too many questions how

junior zealot
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||yknow out of all corners of kirby fanbase tumblr is the one that is surprisingly the one where i saw most people straight up disliking the dlc and i still wholeheartedly believe its because people deluded themselves into thinking that galacta knight gonna show up||

icy tapir
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klu

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see the post in air riders chat

junior zealot
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i reposted that earlier this week but yeah its peak

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actually last week

icy tapir
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Ough

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orz

junior zealot
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today is monday

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another week

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its okay

silver turret
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(for legal reasons i will clarify this is a joke)

lapis reef
elder vortex
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||cuz ive been seeing nothing but glowing praise for the dlc in almost every corner on the internet ive visited||

lapis reef
junior zealot
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yeah its not like

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a huge thing

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which is why i pointed it out

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its weird to see a circle of people being negative about something like this when everyone else loves it pretty much

elder vortex
timber plaza
timber plaza
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I’ve heard so much about tumblr community and idk if I ever wanna touch it

silver turret
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from my limited experience kirby tumblr is like. full of vocal minority ingroups who hate things just to make everyone else feel worse

elder vortex
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||tbh for 20 bucks i think this was very worth it lol||

sudden onyx
silver turret
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$20 is completely normal for nintendo switch dlc

icy tapir
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no it is the latest image post

sudden onyx
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Oh, yeah, of course

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Every fandom have a a fitting gif for that one

lapis reef
neat shuttle
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100% ||it's funny how a bit more reverb makes the vocals a tiny bit more imprinted into the song (reminder: Mangosteen originally made this, just in case, still wanna give credit back)||

timber plaza
silver turret
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mario kart, splatoon, animal crossing, pokemon... all their dlc packs are like. roughly in that price range

junior zealot
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||like its just silly||

silver turret
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i never believed in galacta tbh

junior zealot
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me neither

elder vortex
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||i still havent done the arean lol||

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||same||

junior zealot
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i mainly didnt believe because, like i said before and i will say again

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he has no narrative relevance in this game

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bringing him in would be just fanservice

timber plaza
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Also $20 isn’t even that much. You get a whole new story mode AND a Switch 2 edition of upgraded visuals and frames etc

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That’s like spending $10 on DLC and $10 on Switch 2 upgrade

junior zealot
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HAL even went back and updated the textures didnt they

sudden onyx
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I did until they zoomed in into the meteor, which then becomes pretty obvious

junior zealot
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i heard some people say that

timber plaza
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Yeah

elder vortex
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tbh i can understand some complaints about locking performance behind a paywall but eh

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its not rly a new practice

edgy sapphire
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idk, the new miniboss enemy being named galactal doesnt really help w/ tempering expectations

elder vortex
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but an understandable frustration

timber plaza
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If people don’t want to play it, they don’t have to Kapar

silver turret
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i think most people who have a switch 2 and forgotten land want the new content anyway
the performance buff is a bonus

junior zealot
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this theory existed for a while beforehand

lapis reef
timber plaza
junior zealot
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||i do think its funny as shit that they named them galactals. was kumazaki feeling very evil that day||

edgy sapphire
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ya, but it the name reveal certainly strengthen the belief

sudden onyx
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||They absolutely know what they are doing alluding to him in as many way as possible because they are in fact related, just that it wasn't his show yet||

silver turret
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also like. besides morpho base game forgotten land was pretty self contained storytelling wise

edgy sapphire
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||I didnt really care if galacta made it in or not, but it all the theories for its involvement was growing pretty large for a decent section of the kirby community||

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as the game got closer to release

silver turret
vocal sparrow
patent sluice
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||but the fecto believers won in the end ||

true aurora
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||Honestly I would love Galacta Knight but we already have like 3 knight fights in this game||
||But then again we have like 4 Elfilis fights so uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh||

timber plaza
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||We literally did see Forgo’s ugly head peeking out of the meteor but people still thought it’s Galacta 😭 😭 I guess many people believed Galacta as secret UCZEX boss but, yeah||

silver turret
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i think the fact that ||it's just elfilis again kinda works, because instead of throwing in another story's loose threads it resolved its own, by giving context on elfilis' motives and why and how the new world became abandoned through meteonelfilis' flavor text||

heady quiver
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ngl

pastel ravine
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|| Fraud Knight||

true aurora
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||Honestly I do wish we could’ve gotten Morpho Knight EX in ZEX. I was so sure they were going to bring them back lol||

patent sluice
heady quiver
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||I thought it would be galacta before mainly cause I wasn’t sure what else would fit the motif||

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||and genwel makes sense tbh||

lapis reef
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As for final boss expectations ||As an add on to an existing game, no was expecting either something new, or Elfilis again, and as we got more info that second one seemed more likely. I totally could see where people were coming from with the similarities, but I personally saw them as possible references just because those are fun.||

||I'm not opposed to seeing what Galacta would look like in 3d though. I think that could be very cool||

true aurora
pastel ravine
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|| I’m still GK’s biggest hater after this.||

patent sluice
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||i said it before launch but i though we got weirdly little info about our main antagonist compared ot other games so building on it made sense||

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||it having a sibling or another of its species was a good way to build on esp since it could be justified in following elfilis to the planet||

silver turret
#

this

sudden onyx
#

Yeah

silver turret
#

the story feels so much meatier and more satisfying than it did in the base game

junior zealot
#

||i think establishing that there is a whole planet of these things is very fucking cool and scary||

patent sluice
#

||also something somethin asset reuse but im ngl the asset resuse here is so minor the giant phase is all original||

silver turret
#

like i was completely just uninterested in base game kfl's story, but scw added much needed context and weight that has been allowing me to feel a little fucking insane about it

true aurora
pastel ravine
#

|| They call him 007||

patent sluice
#

||but yea i like the backstory context here is cool though niechel's prophecy song transcending time is wack and dumb i dont think that was necessary||

pastel ravine
#

Uh oh hot take

patent sluice
#

||her staying behind and making a happy song with melancholic lyrics is actually such a strong narrative choice too bad its fucked over in english||

sudden onyx
#

Same, ||Neichel song attracting Elfilis seems dumb.||

junior zealot
#

||galacta also still got some lore in the end so. its not like GK fans totally lost. like idk i feel like establishing what even Sealed him is pretty important and interesting. especially since the game teases its not the last time we will see starries.||

velvet moss
#

I mean techinically you are paying 10 for the DLC and 10 for the Nintendo Switch 2 enhancement

velvet moss
patent sluice
#

||i dont mind the song attractive elfilis we also send out signals into space on the regular so its not far fetched that it would work for these people who are basically human||

junior zealot
broken sapphire
#

i just realized i never actually looked back at what the leaks showed

junior zealot
#

yeah we just had

#

||in-between phase cutscenes||

#

and thats it

#

without any context or gameplay

broken sapphire
#

wow

patent sluice
#

||the time and space part is really unessesary though||

broken sapphire
#

wasn't there also the soundtrack names leaked

timber plaza
#

Legit no gameplay leaked until the release day

broken sapphire
#

that's good

junior zealot
#

but yknow

#

it doesnt have much to chew on in tandem

heady quiver
#

||I think the message the song tries to convey is pretty cool but the song itself is pretty mid imo||

sudden onyx
#

Most of main game just told us how ||they have suffered when they got experimented on and basic info on how they work, not much about how they got here and what they actually did. So much so we assumed overpopulation from the JP description rather than Elfilis almost finished their job instead of being immediately captured.||

timber plaza
#

Yes ||soundtrack and cutscene|| was the only thing that leaked, which is an actual miracle???

broken sapphire
#

didn't some people say ||the name of the final boss was in the soundtrack||?

pastel ravine
#

|| Neichel is rolling in her grave||

patent sluice
junior zealot
#

people assumed but it wasnt true

broken sapphire
#

i thought i remembered that

#

lol

heady quiver
#

||I don’t hate it||

junior zealot
#

||ppl thought para-whatever was the final boss name||

heady quiver
#

||but twinkling star showers is just so. SO good dude||

junior zealot
#

i dont feel like looking up that word rn

patent sluice
#

||its def not really meant to be a bop||

pastel ravine
#

😭

patent sluice
#

||its def more of a storytelling device then trying to be a song i think||

pastel ravine
#

|| Klu, it’s Panspermia||

silver turret
#

||i think it slaps, but I'm a vocaloid fan and am predisposed to liking that kind of music||

patent sluice
#

|| the japanese lyrics gave me inta depression||

#

||people making magolor connections but i think its only really there to affirm the space ships they travelled in were basically the lor starcutter||

silver turret
timber plaza
#

Smh let me be delusional

silver turret
#

||i choose to adopt neichel is lor theory because 1) i see the vision 2) it's awesome and cool actually||

sudden onyx
patent sluice
#

||niechel being the lor is kind of a reach esp since she never left and i think its way more tragic that way||

#

||but its clear to explict the spaceships were lor starcutters of some kind ||

timber plaza
#

||Japanese name when Genel Mefilis (I am never calling it the English name because I cannot say it)||

patent sluice
#

||but yea add this onto the pile of kirby characters with tragic backstories||

timber plaza
#

||susie and Taranza is about to lose the competition /j||

small cloak
#

||melfilis is awesome
meteonelfilis is also awesome but one I can consistently pronounce when rambling so||

patent sluice
#

||this one is rpretty sad but taranza is winning the trauma off sorry||

#

||dude got his gf killed cause he wanted to do something nice for her||

true aurora
pastel ravine
patent sluice
#

||being a depsressed bitch cause thats all he can be characterized as by the community||

#

this is a joke

lapis reef
#

I have officially given up on actually using the final boss name and will just call ||him Gemfilis now||

timber plaza
elder vortex
#

PEAK

#

i saw this on my tl

pastel ravine
#

Just noticed Kris 😭

timber plaza
#

It’s so funny 😭

true aurora
#

Seal my Dark Fountain

sudden onyx
#

Before the launch, I searched for the leak, quitted the social media app, and later clicked back in and saw people commented ||the final boss theme has multiple motifs. That's all I have been spoiled on, I don't think I even know about the name Galactals because it was a Kirby JP thing, right? I didn't translate the name.||

patent sluice
#

||i think its fine neichel stays a pretty minro character all things considered so im not subscribing to any lor or magolor theories||

neat shuttle
#

100% ||i still think it's kind of funny how Neichel went from staying to "actually I really freaking regret staying"||

timber plaza
#

P. Much lol

red mango
#

||yeah that element is so tragic||

timber plaza
#

Like they literally dropped these two right before the release

broken sapphire
patent sluice
#

||well based on wondaria being abandoned it prolly was years after everyone had left and you know its very normal for someone to not want to leave their home||

grave swallow
#

||Does anyone know yet if genwel is beatable with all 30 abilities||

patent sluice
#

||yea||

#

theres no reason why they wouldnt be

grave swallow
#

||Out of the base ones I've done hammer and sword, close with ranger and fire||

timber plaza
#

Yeah you can ||beat with any ability regardless of how strong they are using skills||

grave swallow
lapis reef
grave swallow
#

||Obviously the non DPS check parts are perfectly doable||

#

||Notably, ice is very good against phase 1 and perfectly viable against phase 2 but it's hard to tell if it can do phase 3||

vocal sparrow
#

Off topic but who decided to name the group ā€œBeast Packā€?!

vocal sparrow
lapis reef
#

Do they ever actually call themselves that? I guess it would be more "does Leon ever call them that" because he's the only one who can speak

But like, if it's just figurines and friendly NPCs using the name in game, I HC that it's a nickname the town gave them

true aurora
#

||Not only did Meteonelfilis absorb the Starries but he also absorbed everyone’s leitmotifs to use in his themes too…||

agile sigil
#

||Concerning time travel in the Kirby series, one of the main reasons I'm ok with it, especially where forgotten land is concerned, is that time seems to move way faster there compared to Dreamland. But it especially seems to go by so fast that it seems weird how much of the world still seems to be in tact. If like a week could go by in a couple seconds in Popstar's dimension then it feels like basically everything on that world should be way more eroded if not completely dust at that point. So even beyond time progressing at different rates, full on time travel and things starting at different points in time really seems like the best way to keep everything straight||

vocal sparrow
#

||Guess what i found on Twitter-||

#

||She is real||

#

Does this fit this channel or does it not?

autumn turret
tidal spindle
#

Confusing thing about the counter-interpretation.

||Would the earlier ships NOT have an AI?||

#

I feel like it would have to be used in a very modern real life term to fit that narrative.

flat wadi
pastel ravine
autumn turret
#

Like who named that thing Fecto Forgo

#

Fecto Elfilis is clearly its real name and the people of the world called it ID-F86 both pre and post split
Where does the name Fecto Forgo come from I'm not convinced anyone actually knows that name in-universe

#

Like Elfilin split off from Elfilis and probably said 'my name is Elfilin' did the other half go 'aw man now that I'm a larva again and got abandoned I'm going to name myself after that, I am Forgor now.

junior zealot
#

i think its a name that new world peeps gave to them

calm cobalt
#

Someone officially named it that, we just forgo who

keen acorn
neat shuttle
#

I feel like that Twitter might be fake

#

lol

#

||also made in November 2024||

keen acorn
#

i know X should be fake

neat shuttle
#

but nice try I guess

keen acorn
pulsar lagoon
#

SCW Final boss:
|| You know, does anyone even know Gemwel's name in forgotten land? Gemwell himself never says it so like, in universe who would know that. Astronomer Waddle Dee maybe? ||

#

|| i'm sure elfilis would know, but does elfilin?? ||

neat shuttle
#

||in the forgotten land, all text is actually just english with a custom font||

keen acorn
#

ā„¹ļø šŸ…°ļøšŸ‡² šŸā­•šŸ‡·šŸ“§šŸ‡©
I guess

vocal sparrow
#

funny that there’s a Neichel twitter account that’s fake

keen acorn
#

||kirby just reads the text that pops into existence when the fight starts, the Soul Forgo ā€˜fight’ shows that the text physically is there and is 3d||

#

||cause it doesn’t move when the camera pans over to Morpho Knight||

livid nexus
#

||Also the text does produce shadows underneath||

autumn turret
#

||Ok yea when you hit Crystal Gigant Edge into phase 2 while he's dizzy from backstriking him shielding he gets undizzy immediately where on base game variations he waits out the entire dizzy period||

sudden onyx
keen acorn
#

find the Kirby (check the no spoiler thread for context)

hollow vigil
# keen acorn find the Kirby (check the no spoiler thread for context)

||First image: bottomish far left. Ice ability kirby is blocking hunkered down. The more sand colored of the gems
Second: semi center of the screen, slight right. Ice ability Kirby blocking again. Overlapped with the bottom yellow sphere effect
Third: Left bottom middle area-||

#

||DANG IT isekaiedtoanotherdimension||

keen acorn
#

||what’s ā€˜DANG IT isekaiedtoanotherdimension’ mean||

hollow vigil
#

||RHV beat me to it taranzaboowomp ||

keen acorn
#

also here’s the other 4 for no particular reason

ruby geode
#

can't stop thinking about the (UCZEX) ||new deadly sun attack, still can't get over how peak that is||

broken sapphire
ruby geode
#

||mr shine and bright walked so that chaos elfilis could run||

native mauve
#

||New Chaos Elfilis fight went so damn hard||

ruby geode
#

YEAH

native mauve
#

||The Starry spirits at the end…||

hexed marten
#

Very cool

#

Or should I say, hot?

smoky river
#

||Can someone animate meteonelfilis like this||

ruby geode
#

maybe I'm going crazy lol (spoilers for everything) ||are the vocals in most SCW songs related to elfilis (as they have vocals in roche limit) or neichel or both lol||

sudden onyx
#

(final boss) ||Huh, this is the attack that summons a giant Chaos Elfilis shadow in the background, and Meteon's theme is called "The Falling Star Now Pierces Through the Lagrange Point - Sing of Radiant Theia" and can actually make himself as the shadow.||

sudden onyx
still garnet
#

UZEX: ||WAIT THEY ACTUALLY REFERENCED DARK NEBULA???||

broken sapphire
#

they did?

still garnet
# broken sapphire they did?

||Crystal Elfilis’ eyeball attack has a fire, ice, and green phase like Dark Nebula, and the eyeballs themselves resemble Dark Nebula’s more than any other one-eyed enemy I can think of ||

stuck ether
#

Goons

#

[UCZex Final Boss]
||Just mechanically it's more a reference to para-matter from Canvas Curse, as they also have fire/ice/zap attacks, and can be knocked back to damage the boss, but their attack patterns are nearly 1:1 in this fight||

#

But this is sort of a chicken/egg situation here-

true aurora
stuck ether
#

||THE SLAP||

#

||IT'S THE FUCKING SLAP NOISES FROM CANVAS CURSE||

still garnet
#

Wait, nvm, I’m thinking of ||Rainbow Curse|| still been a while since I’ve played ||Canvas||

autumn turret
#

||I mean thinking this is a dark nebula reference at least makes more sense than the people I've seen think its Miracle Matter somehow||

still garnet
autumn turret
#

||Drawcia is Kuma's nepo baby||

ruby geode
#

||kumazaki don't reference drawcia challenge||

lapis reef
#

||how will we recognize a soul boss if it isn't just Drawcia though deefear ||

cloud olive
#

AU where ||mass attack is the game that gets referenced all the time and we get necrodeus everywhere.||

#

||tbh thinking about it though, drawcia does have a lot of sauce which makes it a fun boss to keep referencing ||

still garnet
velvet moss
#

||Has anyone made a render for Melfilis yet?||

red mango
#

no

#

||switch 2 games can't be ripped||

velvet moss
#

I'm guessing we gonna wait for magazine or something then?

grave swallow
#

||Have we decided if Lord of Chaos is the hardest boss in Kirby history yet?||

heady quiver
#

||nahhh imo||

#

||star dream soul os still undefeated||

lapis reef
#

||I was capable of beating it without wanting to break things, so nah it's challenging but not that that bad||

autumn turret
#

They're never making a render so we'll have to depend on cutting them out from a screenshot Kapar

still garnet
still garnet
deft zodiac
#

I beat it wow

#

I almost completed all stariies

#

There’s a couple levels I can’t figure out

#

How do you kill those twins with crash ?

broken sapphire
#

when was the last time we got an official render of a final boss

#

and no that sectonia smash ultimate spirit doesn't count because it's also not her final form

#

i guess it would be necrodeus, not even a render actually

#

oh wait, i forgot about waning crescent masked dedede and waxing crescent masked meta knight, of course!

twin junco
twin junco
deft zodiac
twin junco
#

i just spammed slide attacks

lapis reef
#

there's also the time honored tradition of "drop ability, defeat some enemies as no ability, regrab your ability before it disappears, repeat"

twin junco
lapis reef
#

I ushered sleep through the final level of forgo dreams this way one time, all to get a stupid screenshot of napping in front of morpho lol

twin junco
#

pfft

autumn turret
#

||God every time I see it its just like
Its crazy how beautiful every effect and visual is in Genwel's fight compared to anything in the main game of FL||

#

||You can really feel they put a lot more focus into things looking beautiful at every step and not just there for mechanical purposes||

#

||Like every time I look in the background of any phase of Genwel's fight and see the lightning I'm just like 'what the fuck'||

cloud olive
#

||the crystals are a really good aesthetic||

autumn turret
#

||It's like
Base FL can't fucking do that||

#

šŸ’Ž

cloud olive
grave swallow
#

||I JUST NO HIT GENWEL 2 WITH PLAIN ASS FIRE KIRBY||

#

||That said, I almost died to phase 3 because it's damn near impossible with plain ass fire kirby||

#

||I can't imagine how I'm going to do it with anything worse?||

#

||This was already so weak that the eye survived getting deshelled the first time and I had to do the third cycle twice||

stone tundra
#

||I spoiled myself on genwel 2 and wow
it must be embiggened genwel but the fight is still so cool.||

grave swallow
#

It's cinema

inland arrow
#

||i think genwel 2 is really enhanced by the fact that it reflects chaos elfilis's huge projection attack||

twin junco
#

||so that just like a thing they can do or is genwel special||

grave swallow
#

||HAL cooked with this final boss as usual, I do wish the regular levels ended in bosses too tho||

civic sun
civic sun
#

||Giant Impact||

grave swallow
#

||theia||

civic sun
#

||don't forget Lagrange Point||

livid nexus
true aurora
#

||Waiter waiter! More boss fights that take place in the rain please!!!!!!!ā¤ļø ||

twin junco
#

||big fan of whatever is happening here||

true aurora
#

||May the spears rain upon ye||

livid nexus
#

||Oh yeah something cool to note is how the lightning changes from yellow to pink when he transitions into Phase 2 of his first form||

keen garnet
#

||friend inside me.........
friend inside his horns....||

grave swallow
#

||yes I just no hit genwel 2 again with plain ass ranger kirby||

#

||I better not die to phase 3||

#

||almost did||

true path
#

||Poor Genwel keeps getting misgendered.||

uneven aurora
#

||No continues, no outside healing items or drinks. Just base Kirby and nothing else||

uneven aurora
grave swallow
#

47 minutes with no deaths OMFG

autumn turret
#

Hey quick question there's only a single Crystal Tortuilding in the game right

#

Because I'm pretty sure they like
Massively fucked up the tortuilding descriptions even more than they did in base game but maybe I'm the idiot

twin junco
#

i think theres 2 blue guys

autumn turret
#

ohh hmm ok

twin junco
#

1 red guy that shoots pieces of buildings

autumn turret
#

||Well either way they at least fucked up the Crystal Big Red Tortuilding description lol
It says he's a member of a Tortuilding family of bosses in redgar
Which doesn't even match the base game description of Big Red Tortuilding which was mistranslated in a different way to say he was the boss of all tortuilding||

grave swallow
#

||5 base abilities vs genwel down now: hammer, sword, fire, ice, ranger. Which is next best out of cutter, bomb, needle?||

cloud olive
autumn turret
#

||Oh yea the 2 crystal tortuilding are almost right beside each other too||

grave swallow
#

||btw I am pretty sure phase 3 crystal keeps getting weaker every time you fail, ice failed 3 or 4 times on some cycles and I definitely saw more cracks each try||

#

||btw genwel 2 is such an awesome fight with the weak abilities bc you get to see all of the attack patterns, I highly recommend trying with something like sword||

#

||reminds me of fighting Soul of Sectonia with weak abilities, she had some disgusting patterns that most players just never got to see||

edgy sapphire
#

||it only goes up to the first level of cracked for subsequent attempts||

grave swallow
#

||it did seem like it took successively less hits to get to the 2nd level of cracks each time though?||

edgy sapphire
#

||it does get easier to break, but there's a limit on how weak it gets after like 3 or so failures + soul crashes ||

grave swallow
#

||oh ok that makes more sense||

#

||It never got to the point where it started with more visible cracks so yeah||

#

||so which is best out of cutter, bomb, and needle||

#

||(I'm pretty sure drill and Tornado just aren't happening)||

edgy sapphire
#

both tornado & needle are very dependent on star drops as they can toss them & the boss tends to throw out a lot of them at times

#

cutter is prob one of the safer and easier options to use otherwise

grave swallow
#

I do have an issue with getting stuck in the final cutter animation and taking hits bc of it lol prob a skill issue

#

I tend to play an extremely crowdy playstyle bc hammer main but cutter is so much about spacing

#

I think it'll be fun to figure out the fight with it for sure

edgy sapphire
#

final cutter's problem is that you cant throw out another cutter until the one that was sent out returns to you

#

in some cases, it might be better to just throw & hold a cutter in place instead of going up close to use final cutter

grave swallow
#

Yeah, I need to break the habit of living rent free right in the boss's face with cutter

edgy sapphire
#

it's good enough for right when the boss moves away in time / phase transitions at least, but I havent followed any recent TAs of cutter as of late

#

to know what's the actual strat

still garnet
#

How do you get the ||elfilin dialogue|| after 100%ing SCW?

grave swallow
#

I don't crowd knights like that tho, so ig I need to play cutter the way I'd fight meta and morpho but against everyone

#

I even crowd when I play ranger unless the boss has projectile dodge windows LOL

icy tapir
#

what is crowd

lapis reef
#

I think they mean "get up in the boss's face and not keep any distance, even with a ranged ability "

icy tapir
#

I see

autumn turret
#

Magolor

#

Yukkuri bait

red mango
#

fight for the crowd

autumn turret
#

||No but seriously 結晶体 What does this mean when you see it yukkuri
I would've read this as 'crystal lifeform' but like
That doesn't make any sense ig and like sure 体 can mean a lot of things but||

timber plaza
#

MAGOLOR

#

WHERE

timber plaza
timber plaza
#

||Errrr I mean who||

autumn turret
#

||Its just the name of one of the figures with no desc||

#

this thing

timber plaza
#

Oh!

icy tapir
#

||THATS A LIFE FORM?||

timber plaza
#

Gotcha

autumn turret
#

||I mean I'd probably just shrug and say 'idk weird wording maybe' and write it as Crystal Mass instead or something but idk||

icy tapir
#

what is it in eng

autumn turret
#

||Crystal Bits||

icy tapir
#

inchresting

timber plaza
autumn turret
#

||Ok yea structure makes sense||

timber plaza
#

||based on Hydra from Cthulhu; 結晶体: å®ŸéØ“ć®åŒ–å­¦č–¬å“ćŒēµę™¶åŒ–ć—ć¦å‡ŗę„ćŸē‰©. Seems like something like crystal structure is the closest||

icy tapir
#

huh from huh

sudden onyx
#

||definitely not a life form in this context.||

junior zealot
#

arlo is really going through his kirby redemption arc, praised the dlc a lot

timber plaza
#

Not me crying in negative way because ||Someone DMd me they didn’t like both of the Leon battle theme (Judgement and Onward from Magolor Epilogue)|| 😭 😭 😭

#

||Like, sure, I can kinda see how some people don’t like that song specifically used, it doesn’t feel 100% like a battle theme against Leon, but they literally used that song for a specific reason||

#

||But they straight up just don’t like the song in general and I’m like </3||

#

||I asked the reason and they said it doesn’t sound like boss theme. ITS BECAUSE ITS FROM MAGOLOR EPILOGUEEEEEEE. I know I’m a Magolor and Epilogue mega fan but those song aren’t from this gameeeeee it’s literally a hub BGM and a final level BGM oughhhhhhh (Onward is my second favorite Kirby song)||

#

||I was more excited hearing the song playing in ZEX more than the final boss itself in SCW (Mefilis)||

still garnet
#

||Honestly I was mildly disappointed that they did the Star Allies thing for 3 of the last bosses just because I prefer their regular themes lol. I can’t really blame them for doing it as a treat though.||

timber plaza
#

||the thing is they didn’t like the song in general and not only because it played in the boss. I don’t mind and I kinda understand the song being different kinda feels weird, but I just got upset over a random slander only because it played in ZEX while their first appearance is form Magolor Epilogue </3||

still garnet
timber plaza
#

||They said if they heard this song in RTDLDX first, they would’ve probably liked it, but they heard them in this game first, so they hate them||

lapis reef
#

||I enjoy that that mixed up the music for the last four. It was a nice surprise. I'm biased towards enjoying like all Kirby music, period, and I'm a sucker for call backs||

timber plaza
#

||Plus they’re not just using older music because they feel like it or just for a nostalgia purpose, all of them has a meaning to why it’s being used, and hence why I love this franchise’s callback to music ||

junior zealot
#

||i think it was a cool move because if you played the game many times like i did it will be an unexpected surprise lol||

still garnet
#

||Like it makes sense since Morpho debuted in SA but it’s still funny to me that it’s the only non-spin off track lol||

timber plaza
# timber plaza ||Plus they’re not just using older music because they feel like it or just for ...

||Like, HR-D3 playing Roar of Dedede in RTDLDX because they’re related to Dedede in a way from past, Daranza theme playing for Phantom Forgo Dedede because of connection of ā€œbeing possessed and controlled like a puppetā€ and ā€œDedede’s themeā€, Supreme Ruler’s Coronation - OVERLORD playing for TA Magolor Soul because the song originally focused about Magolor’s adventure and how much he had grown since but TA with back chorus made the song change its meaning to ā€œa hopeless song about how Kirby cannot save Magolorā€, Forgo Leon playing Judgment and Onward because Forgo Dreams and Magolor Epilogue are both post game content, and has similarity and parallel like Scattered Souls vs Onward etc.||

junior zealot
#

its just hitting me

#

maybe it was obvious for everyone else

#

||but starries... faces? look kinda similar to the lor's sail||

timber plaza
#

||yeahhhhh I believe that was one of the first thing that was discussed when Starries first introduced||

still garnet
timber plaza
#

||Lor, Starries, Pres. Parallel Susie for example, they all have the another dimension’s dimensional rift related mark, but Lor and Starries especially look very much alike||

#

||Lor looks the coolest, lol (bias)||

small cloak
#

||ooooo never noticed pres. susie's||

timber plaza
#

||Literally killing Magolor for introducing Another Dimension lore||

junior zealot
#

you know whats beautiful

#

||another dimension wasnt used for anything in star-crossed world 🄳 ||

timber plaza
#

||FL DLC 2 will bring in Hyper Another Dimension||

#

||But Kuma!!!!!!! Where’s my Dark Matter lore!! Where’s my Dream Kingdom lore!! Where’s my Magolor lore!!!!! Magolore!!!!!||

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||Where’s Drawcia!!!!||

junior zealot
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||drawcia's mysterious fourth sister will appear stay assured||

timber plaza
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||No Elfilis, you are never gonna be Drawcia||

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||Can’t wait to find out Neichel’s twin sister is an artist and she’s the one who drew Drawcia and other paintings||

timber plaza
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😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

still garnet
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||Confirmed to be unrelated to Ado/Adeline in an interview||

karmic pebble
icy tapir
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its just. behind everything else

civic sun
civic sun
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||though we don't know if that counts as another dimension or not but we technically don't know that for lot of FL stuff in general||

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||really the rips in the sky in SCW stages also feel another dimension-ish||

junior zealot
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||perhaps... It just doesn't feel as blatant to me as treasure roads/or vortex that brought everyone there in the first place||

terse swan
terse swan
terse swan
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||when ME starts to play FL related music near the end of the mode: disgusting terrible incredibly unpleasant to hear #NotMyAnotherDimension||

native mauve
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||which Giant Impact mogs||

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||I like how if you stall Meteonelfilis Phase 1 they do the crystal shield while throwing meteors at you like in Phase 3||

junior zealot
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||when genwel sucks out... the energy? out of the crystal arena and it gets all reflective and shit. this is the most next-gen kirby game has ever looked, its positively stunning||

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||especially with the lightning in the background AND IT ALSO being reflected||

red mango
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||if you do break it it gives the same stun effect as elfilis during that move||

terse swan
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||Whose first reactions to Roche Sphere here was "Oh it's just Dark Mind." Kapar||

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||other than "Oh šŸ‘ļø !!!"||

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||Oven the Beach||

native mauve
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Did it not spoiler mark previously wth

civic sun
# native mauve

was talking about this one in another server earlier, ||č¼å·Øę˜Ÿ are actually 'Bright giants', they localized it as 'Massive Shining Star' in English version for some reason||

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||guess they took the kanji too literally and didn't look up what it actually meant||

terse swan
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||You know when Roche Sphere/Soul Genwel is defeated before the Starries seal them up again they start reacting in a very similar way to when Marx Soul was being formed, same purple color too||

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||thought I mention it since I don't think nobody has talked about it yet||

autumn turret
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WAIT

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WAIT

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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

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MY MIND IS FUCKING BLOWN

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SO HARD RIGHT NOW

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||SURVIVAL SWORD BOUNCER IS A PUN||

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||THE DESTINED SURVIVALS||

civic sun
# native mauve

||btw ę˜ŸčŠ’å½¢ which you translated as 'star-shaped' more specifically refers to an 'Astroid', that one they did localize correctly in English version||

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(old crusty pic but just to show lol)

civic sun
# autumn turret ||THE DESTINED SURVIVALS||

anyway, ||god I really wish they kept this to some degree in English, there wasn't really a reason to change it completely here (could have made it 'Survivors' if they really needed to)||

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||'The Rivalry Lives On' just sounds sort of....bland (and doesn't really fit with what figure is about) imo (and didn't realize it was supposed to be another Destined Rivals thing specifically until I saw JP name)||

terse swan
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||do other translations keep the reference in?||

civic sun
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||you mean other localizations of SCW? idk, European Spanish at least seems to follow the English version with how they localized it; I assume Chinese and Korean ones would be closer to JP at least (as usual)?||

silver solar
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||I question the use of Star Conquering Traveler for Morpho instead of just the original Morpho theme for UCZEX||

civic sun
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||I mean, it's probably mostly because there was already lot of weird small Void-Morpho connections to begin with||

terse swan
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||it's still Star Allies related though so lol||

civic sun
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||that too lol||

terse swan
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||I'm more surprised that they didn't do Morpho Knight EX this time as an extra surprise on top of the Lord of Chaos version of Elfilis||

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||however I guess they still wanted to be consistent with the original UCZ||

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||whether this whole DLC is just a parallel or not||

patent sluice
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Im just considering ZEX non canon

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||an alternate version if the base ending||

terse swan
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||it's a blink and you'll miss it detail in that cutscene||

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||which why else would they do that?||

civic sun
ruby geode
timber plaza
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||Its been like 3 hours and I’m still arguing about Onward with this dude||

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I’m going LOSE MY MIND

civic sun
timber plaza
civic sun
terse swan
autumn turret
civic sun
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||oh damn, different reading of it?||

autumn turret
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||Yea, that says emono, prey||

timber plaza
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||Mfw ateji||

autumn turret
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I can't wait to find out about like 12 more of these things in descriptions that I missed b/c I wasn't looking Kapar

timber plaza
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I don’t think you missed out much lol

timber plaza
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I’m having a mega beef argument

terse swan
ruby geode
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bruh ||onward is peak, I can understand the "doesn't sound like a battle theme" for judgement but not onward||

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||though anyway this is the funny kirby thing of "reuse music for special boss battles" that they've been doing since KSA so I don't personally care||

timber plaza
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I’m so salty

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But I have my rights to be one

terse swan
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a salty egg?

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how does that work?

timber plaza
terse swan
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please explain Yukkuri-sama

civic sun
terse swan
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down here ā¬‡ļø

civic sun
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||just wish they were somehow able to keep the name connection in English even more now lol||

patent sluice
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||ultimately whichever cup you think is canon doesnt matter since the result is the same||

timber plaza
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||ā€Leongar’s theme is betterā€ well duh of course because that song was made for the battle 😭 😭||

terse swan
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||except Meta Knight unless he is also Elfilis in disguise||

ruby geode
patent sluice
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||its weirdly satisfying that elfilin calls him "Kirby of the Stars" in his thank you letter||

terse swan
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||I think there's a possibility to it being canon after SCW is done though whether the event of Star Crossed World is before or after defeating Elfilis remains a mystery||

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||though Elfilin kind of implying it's after?||

timber plaza
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||Elfilin and Magolor on their competition who says ā€œKirby of the Starsā€ more||

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||Im still crying every time I reread the TA Magolor Soul’s ā€œKirby of the Starsā€||

terse swan
timber plaza
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||I liked when Zan mentioned it||

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||The determination…||

ruby geode
timber plaza
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IM GONNA GET YOU

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||Stinky rodent found dead in the back alley of Merry Magoland||

stray umbra
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||my headcanon for the ucz situation is that the two timelines run parallel, ucz for base forgotten land and ex for ns2 edition with the star cross world inclusion as they both have the same end point of elfilin becoming whole again||

agile sigil
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ruby geode
burnt wedge
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||Wow, that final boss was insane! I really had to give it my all!||

timber plaza
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Adventure Dedede is a GOAT </3

autumn turret
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||...lowkey what the hell tone is this last sentence supposed to have
Is it like
Supposed to sound serious
IDK if its just the double exclamation mark but it almost looks ironic to me lol||

timber plaza
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||the exclamation mark is there just to make the word stronger||

autumn turret
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||lol
Guess it just doesn't work well directly in English||

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||Actually am I misreading the sentence
Should it be more like||

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||(Previous sentence.) In order to inevitably eat away at and destroy the star once its been targeted!!||

junior zealot
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We win???

heady quiver
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it’s canon…

timber plaza
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||still feels so bad for Dedede for starving||

elder vortex
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||HE STARVED???||

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||😭||

timber plaza
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||honestly Dedede in general, got the worse out of it. Because he was starving, and he had not much choice, since it’s dedede. he cant fight if hes starvin||

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||it’s MORE understandable why he is acting the way he is after the story mode. And idk about English description of the one figure where Dedede is acting lazy, but the Japanese version makes my heart squeeze so hard as a Dedede fan||

pastel ravine
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|| He needed whatever the new world equivalent is to snickers||

terse swan
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||He still owes the Dees a formal apology I guess Kapar||

timber plaza
terse swan
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||even though the Dees have shown to have forgiven/stand by him still||

timber plaza
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||the Dee’s knows Dedede’s personality so well, they know how nice he is hence why they’re so loyal to him <3333||

junior zealot
timber plaza
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||They really got the worse out of him… like genuinely||

velvet moss
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||so if Dedede isn't depressed and starve would he got mind controlled?||

timber plaza
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||I would’ve lost my sanity and lose my guard very easily as well if I was in Dedede’s shoe, regardless of if I’m one of the strongest guy in entire Popstar||

terse swan
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wait

terse swan
velvet moss
junior zealot
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||those times were a bit different. it acted more like possession rather than psychic influence||

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||i assume if he was in a better state he would be likelier to resist or something||

autumn turret
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||Just gonna plop this down
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wbRK3V-ibe_l3g14S2Yo3IqITeQRouME6M6whvlvrVw/edit?usp=sharing
These are all literally my first pass of the text, I haven't looked back over any of them after writing them so it's pretty rough but I probably won't get around to that for a bit
Plus I'll probably compare my translations with Starpunch's when I do look over them
There's things already on my mind like whether I should've written meteor as plural or singular in different places and stuff like that||

timber plaza
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||Taranza is a whole different story, but, Yinyarn also got MK as well. While he was resisting for a moment, he ended up falling for it. It was also a surprise attack. In terms of MK vs Dedede, MK has stronger mentality and has higher surviving skills in general, versus Dedede who is ā€œhe is very strong and knows what to do, but he doesn’t have super strong mentality compared to MKā€. Also for all we know, Dedede seemed to be in worst situation on where he was sent when he first arrived to New World. Dream Land has plenty of food source, but New World didnt. The whole environmental changes can get someone very easily. MK is more used to these situation because he trains all the time in part of Popstar that… probably doesnt have much food sources. There’s just so much differences||

timber plaza
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Wow my discord on this device is stuck in update from like 2021 or 2022 so I struggled to get pin stuff lol

timber plaza
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I was attending my uni lecture and I kept telling my brain to stop singing ||unfinished song|| but it didnt work and now I’m crying midclass 😭

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Never hum a kirby song that makes you emotional mid class

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(I was humming twinkling star and died)

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Kirby game dont make me cry challenge (fail) (I was crying replaying SKC last night)

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||I hope unfinished song or twinkling star shower + welcome to the new world gets added to kirby cafe in near future. If anything, they should sneak in moonlight canyon as well lol||

terse swan
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||try not to hum Twinkling Star||

timber plaza
terse swan
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but you know what you could do in spite of that?

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hum Twinkle Twinkle Little Star

raven aspen
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100% spoiler ||itoki hana last song cover please šŸ™ ||

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100% spoiler ||also this tweet is crazy. does they know??? ||

broken sapphire
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||Tra-la-la-la-la, you animals!||

twin junco
true aurora
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😭 😭 😭

ruby geode
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||(I will take it)||

junior zealot
true aurora
agile sigil
ruby geode
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did you watch this btw

true aurora
broken sapphire
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it was mostly just a regular playthrough lol

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but i did leave a comment and he actually hearted it and left a nice reply

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number of people who i have successfully explained the concept of "canon" in kirby to is now greater than zero

timber plaza
light quail
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Oh it's not even like an actual analysis video lol

broken sapphire
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yeah lol

timber plaza
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Ducktales 2017 my beloved

light quail
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Suppose any worthwhile analysis video would take longer than a week to be made anyway lol

broken sapphire
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yeah

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if i was good at youtube i could probably do something like that

light quail
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Now's your chance šŸ”„
Just install your userbase with eye-catching titles and thumbnails and then get them to stay with the Accurate Lore Analysis

ruby geode
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I really wish we had a good kirby lore video, maybe now it- YEAH

light quail
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Or use your depths of wikirby account to plug it lol

ruby geode
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anyway I made this to represent how I've been feeling the past few days (implied spoilers for everything)

broken sapphire
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well first of i need youtube to fucking stop being stupid and give me back my ability to add links and pinned messages in my videos after they removed it for literally no reason

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then i need to get a good editing software

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then i need to mentally be able to talk into a microphone

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because i do not wanna use tts

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i would also probably need an actually good microphone

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and also the time to record when my family isn't home because they're always pretty loud

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and i also would not like talking to a microphone while they're there

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i would also need motivation of course

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and uh i would also need a million dollars so please give me that

light quail
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Yeah that's real 😭 i would hate talking into a mic for youtube vids I'd feel weird about my voice

broken sapphire
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or is kumazaki just like "yeah you're allowed to use the dale leitmotif in the final boss theme, i won't say why though"

ruby geode
broken sapphire
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||"yeah so melfilis in his third phase has like a crystal shield similar to galacta knight's seal so you can use his motif. also he looks kinda like void so you can reference his theme too"||

ruby geode
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||~~tbh I don't think anyone at HAL understands what the hell is going on with the lore other than kumazaki and who is to say he also understands everything Kapar ~~||

broken sapphire
timber plaza
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Does he know? He doesn’t know!

wild stirrup
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||Like it always existed but they were so coy with it||

terse swan
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||the spaceship reveal is still like we knew they were hiding that one important detail from the wear and tear sign yet still...||

broken sapphire
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spoiler!!!

hallow mulch
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guys isn't this right here the kirby's dreamland credits theme

broken sapphire
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you gotta spoiler tag final boss stuff

timber plaza
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Whoop

hallow mulch
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this is a channel called

timber plaza
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Too late

hallow mulch
#

SPOILERS

timber plaza
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Spoiler tag pls

ruby geode
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have you read our spoiler policy

hallow mulch
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i have been in this server for years

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i don't remember

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lol

timber plaza
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#adorable-announcements

ruby geode
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I recommend you to read our spoiler policy in announcements

timber plaza
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It was posted few days ago

broken sapphire
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years without reading the rules? banneDDD /j

hallow mulch
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well whatever it's not like the name of the song hits at anything tbh lol

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but fine

broken sapphire
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ermm it hints that it's a song!1

ruby geode
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it's still a spoiler

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(and yeah the name does hint at stuff lol)

hallow mulch
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i'll just repost what i wanted to post with the tags

timber plaza
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The title of the song is still considered as spoilers

hallow mulch
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Final Boss Parastella Crystallis Genwel Meteonelfilis Music!
Listen to all Kirby Star-Crossed World Forgotten Land DLC Songs! #kirby #kirbystarcrossedworld #kirbyandtheforgottenland #ost #music #nintendoswitch2
ā–ŗ Full Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLltD0VqVxLyOdNmi2Ge9cJpoCMT7JqjUh
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||Isn't this the kirby's dreamland credits theme?||

broken sapphire
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||but yeah that section does seem to be based on a new wind for tomorrow||

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||for like a couple seconds||

ruby geode
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||yeah wikirby does say it||

timber plaza
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||Cant believe Kirby died||

broken sapphire
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and obviously anything wikirby says is objectively true

hallow mulch
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|| star allies printed that motif in my mind with how much it abused it||

light quail
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||there's a lot of similarites between new wind for tomorrow and that one part of magolor's theme right. #noooticing||

timber plaza