#[SPOILERS] Star-Crossed World
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(100%) ||I always assumed it is an AI copy of her is made to soothe people on their journey to another dimension, not literally Neichel is Lor, because she mentioned she choose to stay in new world. I think most people just simpliflied that into Neichel is Lor so we can make jokes about the MagolorxLor sticker||
||i still don't understand why the "ai copy" idea is so popular already||
||I still think this song has double story/meaning. Neichelās story and Magolorās story. It kinda just make sense for both characterās cases, I guess? Possibly having some similar experiences but in different way. Magolor and Neiche could be a parallel to each other.||
Crack theory:
||Imagine Neichel ends up in Dream Kingdom. Thatās where she spent rest of her life, and wrote Green Tree Memories. And pass it down to whoever that sees them in the future. Which was something she dreamed of, a story of team Kirby clash, or could be another prophecy that will save the future of whatās about to come.||
Ugh
Hate discord mobile
||I have slightly different interpretation but yeah basically||
||why do you think the first part||
New theory:
||Bro is truly everywhere, everything||
Me already forgetting what I wrote as first part
This is how henchmen disguise themselves to spy on the main characters
Sure, but at some point we have to distinguish between people that have always been in the Dream Land dimension and their decendants compare to people from the new world, and also who is from the magical clan and the scientific ones. And that is what people are actually discussing rather than if the ancient are one race or not
||what if neichel is like miku of kirby universe and this is magolor randomly cosplaying as her meanwhile lor is like. wtf man||
||Magolorās gender is unknown, clearly this hints something||
||is it really stated to be unknown||
||Actually so true||
||Neichel is 100% the miku of kirby||
im cooking
||A lot of character is stated as unknown but Magolor is no different yeah. Usually shown as he/him, but he was never proven further||
like chef kawasaki
100% ||Definitely started from the weird way English translated it but even then, I think just bringing up the idea of AI and hearts as machines could be referring to nova OR Lor given that they are establishing some connection between her and Lor||
||ah okay. i guess kirby is the only one where its a huge thing||
||I think it's enough for people to begin speculating that way||
I personally don't buy the "there were exactly two groups of ancients - one did magic and one who did science" thing. Like more power to people who do. It just feels overly simplistic to me.
So to me it doesn't matter if the people on Dream Land currently are descendants of people who always lived there, or are descendants of people who came there later
||i think from the japanese version it's pretty clear the connection is that she doesn't want to take the ship because it relies on ai||
Unless thereās suddenly proof against it I just think thereās a bunch of ancients who all did a bunch of random shit
||Well we know she stayed behind, so yeah, but I don't think that really affects the possibility that those people based the Lor's AI after her since now we know it uses AI. And we know that they were already playing her songs to soothe people|| 100%
wyhat about ||m,agolor s pronouns in the novels||
||A lot of the sentence lines up with Magolorās story. (Specifically Japanese), the amount of keywords that relates to Magolor, how 3 major food that showed up are all kind of related to Magolorās appearances. The parallel of Wondaria vs Magoland. While NOT every lyrics are exactly the way Magolorās story are being told, if you connect each other keyword together, it does look like you can make this song about Magolor, or heavily reference him the entire song||
||yeah it doesn't make it less possible in terms of logic, i just don't see how it has any possible evidence besides "it could be the case"
which is like the exact same issue kirby being void has||
fair
|| Magolor Jackson||
It doesn't even have to be just two groups of ancient clans and it being two races, we got that info from Hyness and it probably meant the magical ones are native to Kirby's dimension (probably includes Hyness and Magic Sister which already are different races) and the scientific ones are from new world as they very likely created Lor, star rod and such as Magolor claimed, and any more about being more races are just speculations on how the society works and isn't that important
||i do think it could very well be intended that they're opposites of each other, with neichel abandoning the lor (or the spaceship that came before it) to stay on her planet, while magolor left his own planet or where ever he came from to search for ancient artifacts which includes the lor||
||You stole my idea
||
||Of course, but that is why it's just theory (and hopefully stays that way). Not to mention all the seemingly Magolor allusions the song has||
Yeah, for me it's like I imagine there were big cultural mixing pots where different ideas and ways of living collided. And maybe some people were purists who believed their way was best, but others were excited about the possibilities from combining different strategies, and that's how we get crazy things like Nova and whatnot that are clearly the mixing of multiple things
Anyway this is so canon. Like unbelievably canon
||this is why I want to believe in my weird theory lol I donāt think itās a coincidence at this point. At least Magolor ended up living a happy life being able to build theme park and show up to bunch of adventures with Kirby||
||and magolor's theme park is toootally not propaganda (to make people forgive him for trying to take over the universe)||
||tbf i think magolor has a genuine passion for this sort of thing. i mean merry magoland is like the best mini-game centric thing in the franchise||
||like we gotta give him credit||
||Also nothing huge but I could lowkey see that unfinished song never had a name on who wrote them. Hence why Neichel added a Morse code in the end, or because Neichel died or abandoned the song and somehow created the Morse code. Or other way around, she added the Morse code so that people wonāt forget, or that people who canāt read the new world language, might be able to understand the Morse code and will remember her name?||
||what is Pop Star? the planet or Neichel, you have two hours||
||wow Magolor is like me. Iāve always wanted to design theme park and video games. Before Magoland was announced. Even tho I got the theme park design dream after RTDL/DC. but you know. Itās funny for me lol||
In a way you just keep winning
||man. imagine if popstar ancients called the planet this way as their way to pay tribute to her||
fun fact: if you combine every regular stage, starry stage, and treasure road stage, forgotten land switch 2 edition has a total of ||109|| stages
goddamn
granted over half of those are treasure roads lmao
i hope next 3d game at least has more stages in general
maybe like fl has combined with the dlc
true
||it's not 86 stages I'm sad||
||whereās my copy ability based of Mefilis smh||
||at least one more for each new mouthful would have been nice||
yeah
||bandana dee evolution||*
||lowkey that was my first thought but I know they wouldnāt do it at this rate so lol||
||I was hoping for sleep upgradeā¦||
They should have at least ||made Bandee look more powerful when Kirby has evolved abilities. Even just some extra particles, etc, would go a long way towards making it feel better||
man these clockers fucking suck at bringing these waddle dees to lab discovera. all they're doing is just flying in place smh
remember when they added The Dream Discovery Tour to the Waddle Dee playlist
Did the figure ever mentioned about how astronomer Dee took a boat to the volcano?
In English?
nope
just says
Astronomer Waddle Dee is passionate about research, especially legendary-meteor research. So he rushed to the volcanic island with the other Waddle Dees. His hobbies include collecting shiny coins and figures and catching up with his good pal and research partner Wise Waddle Dee.
NOOOOOO
huh
The boat mentioned was cute </3
tbh we do see boats in FL stages so it's not like we wouldn't have guessed
Magolor went on a boat with other Deeās to the volcano the moment the meteor fell
NOT MAGOLOR
|| I find it funny how he never came back to the island after his introduction
||
Your auto correct is working overtime
|| Fake ā researcherā ass ||
But yeah astronomer dee went on a boat to see the situation, which is funny to think of considering they arrived before the Kirby arrived with warp Star š š š š
Maybe astronomer dee was standing by the coast
āThis thing should fall in few secondsā

Yeah maybe they just saw it coming ahead of time
Astro Dee on his Astro Boat
||the Astro Boat is the Lor Starcutter||
i finally tested the hammer super jump glitch and can confirm that it's patched šššš
||Im still sad they barely got anything after opening. But itās fair that they canāt go on adventure since theyāre not capable of fighting, hence why theyāre more talented in different stuff||
Chaos Elfilis duplication glitch without hammer is possibly patched too lol
it would've been really fun to explore the new stages out of bounds but oh well š
I was trying it earlier like 6-7 times and didnāt work
All the super jump glitches are patch
I still wish ||the volcano Island was a proper place we could walk around. Even if there wasn't much to do there, you could at least have astronomer Waddle Dee hanging around and stuff||
this also means ultimate cup z ex speedruns won't be nearly as broken as regular cup z ones since you can't do the ability refresh glitch thing
Iām sad we canāt duplicate the funny chaos Elfilis in UCZ anymore </3
I wanted to see how many Elfilis I could spawn on NS2 edition before it crashes the game
what is ability refresh thing
Like you can do it without the hammer, BUT you canāt do it anymore because the invisible wall might be taller
you could go out of bounds in the waiting room with the hammer glitch to reset the copy essences that were there to get crash every single time
||man, yeah. The surface of volcano looked extremely coolā¦||
I think astronomer waddle dee probably saw it begin to fall and then immediately started wind waker speed run super swimming to the island
so I 100% SCW but where ||is the unfinished niechel song?||
||you have to reload waddle dee town by going in and out of a room||
||you need the HAL Room||
||Let me explore the random coral and find coins I don't need, please||
i got it
Fastest paddler in the new world
i used it to grind coins
||you donāt need HAL room, funny enough||
||HAL Labs gate-keeping the 500 Leongars at once from us||
||to unlock the final song||
||Crack theory: What if the "you" in that song is actually a specific person that Neichel cared about who left with the spaceship while Neichel stayed behind. Like her girlfriend or whatever.||
then I seriously do not understand the conditions, because I had someone who needed it
NOOOO (not the lesbian part)
||because thereās been people missing all HAL room music and still got it||
i left that message unspoilered solely because it's really funny out of context
Yeah we donāt exactly know anything
||DOOMED YURI DOOMED YURI||
||Niechel is waiting in town and is personally judging you to determine if you deserve the final song
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||She's actually a member of the band, who adds it to the set list when she thinks you're ready||
HEY WAIT A MINUTE I JUST REALIZED NONE OF THE NEW STAGES ||HAD INVINCIBLE CANDIES!!!||
Not sure how one is meant to get the [100% completion] ||Final Song||, I kinda had to re-load for it to show up
||all the candies got destroyed by the meteorā¦||
||or could imply that Kirby simply just ate them all||
I think ||you just need to reload the town map. IE, enter and exit a building, or go to the map and return, etc||
You see the reason they did that was so that it wouldn't get mixed up with the ||invisible crystals||
||This is payback for the theme playing in A Full Speed Farewell||
100% ||okay so can someone explai nto me the niechel lore thats insane cause I dont see it even after listening to the 100% song||
||its mainly the Japanese version||
no the room just has to reload
HAL has failed us
HAL failed
someone rpboably told them to get ||HAL room but that reloaded the room||
||The deedly dees be like āhi kirby meet our secret lead member dee chelā
||
Region locking their lore like the good ol days
||Dream Friends quote flashback||
(More like implications that heavily recontextualize things but whatever)
||someone has to be doing the vocals on those songs, after all||
okay whats the japanese lore then
||It's actually Neichel disguised as Waddle Daa||
Can we bring back Japanese interview exclusive lore so it really is like good ol bad days
Stick some stuff only on proprietary social media while we're at it
||me looking at all the wondaria advertisements in alivel mall, knowing exactly why they exist now||:
We may get SCW interview in next few months
"Hey do you know what girl? What's her name? Anyways, so yeah Magolor-"
Thereās a Bananza interview going on, so I can imagine next being Jamboree TV or SCW
No matter what game, it always ||Returns To Dreamland||
||The Starries should've sealed King K. Rool instead of the Banandium Root...|| (Bananza spoilers)
I canāt wait for Jamboree TV interview being 5 months long
And SCW doesnāt get one till next year
Or doesnāt get one at all
Which is⦠possible
Unless Air Riders takes over completely, I can imagine getting one
you get
Kumazaki and Sakurai on the same interview
and I don't even rule that out
lol
Oh, boy. Interview exclusive lore thats inaccessible to the international fanbase which causes massive confusion, argument, and misinterpretation on mass because of its exclusivityā¦.
MY FAVORITE
Also I still canāt believe Wanya Wanya Max Warp Star referenced anime
In Japanese ver
100% ||oh i get it now i thought there was insane lore revelation but its more just storytelling again. So Niechel wrote twinkling star showers and it transcended time and space and drew elfilis to the world, is that right?||
NEVER FORGET HOW THEY TOOK "WANYA" FROM US
wa-wa wa-wa š
Wa-Wa Wa-Wa Warp Star Max
LOOOL
that's the case for the whole game
and Iām assuming no anime reference as well?
EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T FUCKING WAY WAWA THEY SAY WANYA!!!!
Kirby rescues Waddle Dees, and they hop on a star and head to town for a reunion with the others. Look how many Kirby rescued in one stage! How many can fit on a star?
I would be fine sacrificing Kirby of the Stars to make room for Wanya
HOLY SHIT I ATE ALL THE BANANAS IN
IN ONE SINGLE INHALE FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER
WE DESERVE WANYA
make Kirby Mass Attack back to its original roots
it's all Waddle Dees now
I mean they could say wa short hand when doing only short exclamations. Plus you could also see it as them repeating the first sound of warp star to put emphasis on it
Yk like āCA CA CA COMBO BREAKERā
||@smoky river you might want to hear his point||
Yeah it's not nearly as fun now š
wa-wa is so lame
would be it funny if a new anime happened
and Waddle Dees just love saying wanya in it
fr but I Would Not sacrifice kirby of the stars for wanya
they end a sentence with WANYA
||I feel like the AI copy theory got popular because the English version of the song implies a lot more that the song is in first person about the experiences of Lor (especially the I hope I don't meet me line) with beep boops, and the actual her didn't go but it still credits Neichel. While we know from RtDLDX that Lor has a mind of its own which stopped Magolor plans temporarily so there is some autonomy from the ship AI, so people naturally slotted her in. Besides, if they just wanted to soothe those who boarded, they can just record the track and plays it like normal and doesn't have to use an AI copy of her. Her getting prophetic dreams might be the reason why people still want a copy of her on board and helming the whole ship even if she didn't want to go. (And even if this is a different continuity, didn't people used to pray for Lor in the manga?)
However, the Japanese version talks about a lot more of actual Neichel's feeling on the new world after they left and does not have much connecting to Lor beside the white wings line, and that might be implying death more without the other context Eng version got.
Given how much more specific English version is about the Lor correlations because it fitted more meaning with the same amount of syllables, did they truly have no supervision from Kumazaki and Treehouse winged it? I highly doubt it.||
fl gets a new patch & the only change is wa-wa -> wanya
200% improvement to the game
@broken sapphire I just noticed your reply to my tweet
You DO NOT agree š š š š
What was the tweet?
||did saw Japanese comments about Lor and Neichel being connected||
||oh wow yeah the "hope i don't meet me" is just completely absent in japanese||
||tho there is gachapons and stuffs.||
i do
It might be ||theories from the Western trickling to JP's fandom.||
Me going crazy how I cried to this game several times similar to when I played RTDLDX
i still dont get it
it doesnt even sound like wa-wa
what is this gaslighting on the part of nintendo treehouse
Oh
||a lot of people in JPN community thinks theyāre connected, but might be our bias towards Lor||
||theres also the beeps coincidence and other Gachapons existing.||
Wa-wa sounds like a name of place
IT IS
Wawa is a gas station

during your what
During my internship at Disney
i did not know you were a disney employee
the Wawa gas station
I still have my blue ID lol (Disney ID)
Mickey destroyed all my Magolor merch because theyāre rivals
Same goes to my Wondaria merch smh
Iām still sad the Wondaria merchline barely had actual Wondaria
they even had souvenir shop dee from magoland as a character for Wondaria merch
Ah wa-wa.
The (better) 7-11 of the east coast.
unfortunate missed opportunity
why donāt they say quickchek instead
I wanted the Eggers dog duo </3
This is a hot take but I prefer the Waddle Dees to be silent and I find the wanyas annoying and unnecessary
||I still wonder if Egg Engines (Egger Engines in JPN) were referencing Wonducks Eggers and Wondari Eggers||
sorry I love the wanyas
Wanya is a bless to this world
It's fine, it is just my opinion
||I canāt believe I went crazy over thinking the egg dog getting crystal fingers was foreshadowing a crystal leon just to beā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦WRONG||
(final boss) ||At least Meteon got some crystal on his elbows.||
||Caroline and Leongar making meteor nails||
(final boss) ||You know for a fact both Elfilises are slaying with their nails.||
||unfortunately my favorite nails are Magolor Sou-||
Ayy, my edits on the final boss have been accepted
||Neichel when the meteor falls down (she uses the piece of meteor as her nail decoration)||
||not nail stuff, but man I could easily see bits of meteor being used in jewelry and stuff. Diamond ring? Nah, babe, this crystal came from space||
100% ||currently doing more pass on effects on that teto cover because something always bothered me and I just fixed it||
||you know, I always headcannoned the vocals of moonstruck blossom to be sectonia herself singing. Star Crossed World bringing those vocals back is incredibly funny to me because its like they resurrected sectonia just to sing in the background||
||Missed opportunity for chaos elfilis crystal edition to make my slaying concept real š ||
||Oh the crystal nails would send me lol||
||the theory that the ancient civilization landed in the dream kingdom is funny to me because that implies there's a slim chance they immediately established an alivel mall there
||
My favorite Kirby meteor:
(Or meteor like ahh)
I wanna like
Crack them in pieces and use it as a dress or jewelry
D-Mind looks like he's bracing for impact in that second pic lol
Yeah he died after /lh
That's the Clash friend meteor thing, so yeah he better brace for impact
They used it for Landia as well
they look yummy
when is kirby cafe gonna start serving them
This is the exact reason why we got meteor themed cafe menu
based
We got one for the new Carby mouth starry version
Why are they putting space rocks in the cakeā¦.
And we got SCW meteor themed drink
That canāt be healthy
I heard theyāre pretty good
you dont know that
So I canāt wait to try it
legends has it they have an insane amount of vitamin d
Vitamin (King) D-Mind
š„ āļø
Has anyone actually gotten the sparkly-eyed burger and crystal hat car cake? I have only seen it in the figures
What flavor is it and is it fool of rock candy?
They certainly know how to make nice presentation. Looks so pretty
It is promotion for the real life cafe?
Yes
Yeah this is real stuff from the real cafe
It released on the release day of SCW
It isn't actually in-game?
The Carby is in game
Random low chance of getting it
The drink isnāt, those are exclusive to real life Kirby cafe
||teleports behind you and summons a meteor||
||That's nice.||
How does Elfilin eat
Similar to waddle dee!
I think it's funny that (final boss) ||Gemfilis has that neon aesthetic that would fit right into the Invasion at the House of Horrors||
For real?
Probably considering we have a lot of character without mouth
And so they would eat mysteriously
And kiss mysteriously
They just eat, don't ask too many questions how
||"its giving fanfic" and thats why its awesome lmao š ||
||yknow out of all corners of kirby fanbase tumblr is the one that is surprisingly the one where i saw most people straight up disliking the dlc and i still wholeheartedly believe its because people deluded themselves into thinking that galacta knight gonna show up||
another reason kirblr should be smited
(for legal reasons i will clarify this is a joke)
As soon as we saw more trailer stuff ||it was pretty obvious it was gonna be "Elfilis but stronger" to me. I get hoping for more, but like this was effectively $20 dlc so||
||was it actually just that or were there other reasons lol. not that i dont believe you, im just curious||
||cuz ive been seeing nothing but glowing praise for the dlc in almost every corner on the internet ive visited||
I've definitely seen ||some people let down that it was just some stages and then Elfilis again. But it feels like a minority opinion||
||some people do complain about the price and i think its more justified criticism albeit idk if its worthwhile leveraging it against the dlc since its not the devs who did the pricing, but most people say that lore sucks because galacta knight isnt there||
yeah its not like
a huge thing
which is why i pointed it out
its weird to see a circle of people being negative about something like this when everyone else loves it pretty much
||tbh i was expecting something new and not galacta kngith like most ppl but elfilis 2 but cooler is a cool welcome too. esp since the fight was great||
Ohā¦. Glad I donāt use tumblr
ah, i see
Iāve heard so much about tumblr community and idk if I ever wanna touch it
from my limited experience kirby tumblr is like. full of vocal minority ingroups who hate things just to make everyone else feel worse
||tbh for 20 bucks i think this was very worth it lol||
me neither
||Is it the DMV one?||
$20 is completely normal for nintendo switch dlc
no it is the latest image post
||I play pretty slowly, so between just levels, the final boss, and the arena (not even 100% yet), I've gotten a solid 7hrs out of it. Which is about as long as some full Kirby games. So I'm perfectly happy with the $20 price||
100% ||it's funny how a bit more reverb makes the vocals a tiny bit more imprinted into the song (reminder: Mangosteen originally made this, just in case, still wanna give credit back)||
||this is straight up not even criticism anymore, thatās just forcing their bias and hating lol Like youāre the one who hyped yourself thinking Galacta would return, come on, now⦠I havenāt seen any of that complain in Japanese community at least so phew||
mario kart, splatoon, animal crossing, pokemon... all their dlc packs are like. roughly in that price range
||this is why with theorizing i tend to keep an open mind. even if i feel strongly about a theory i wont make it so if its wrong, the source material who didnt meet my made up expectations suddenly sucks because of it||
||like its just silly||
i never believed in galacta tbh
me neither
i mainly didnt believe because, like i said before and i will say again
he has no narrative relevance in this game
bringing him in would be just fanservice
Also $20 isnāt even that much. You get a whole new story mode AND a Switch 2 edition of upgraded visuals and frames etc
Thatās like spending $10 on DLC and $10 on Switch 2 upgrade
HAL even went back and updated the textures didnt they
I did until they zoomed in into the meteor, which then becomes pretty obvious
i heard some people say that
Yeah
tbh i can understand some complaints about locking performance behind a paywall but eh
its not rly a new practice
idk, the new miniboss enemy being named galactal doesnt really help w/ tempering expectations
but an understandable frustration
If people donāt want to play it, they donāt have to 
i think most people who have a switch 2 and forgotten land want the new content anyway
the performance buff is a bonus
i mean this was revealed like. 2 days away from the dlc
this theory existed for a while beforehand
||Mom, can we have Galacta Knight?
No honey, we have Galacta at home.
Galacta at home:
||
||I think the problem is, that name was only revealed few days before the game release. People were hyping up themself already back in April reveal about Galacta||
||i do think its funny as shit that they named them galactals. was kumazaki feeling very evil that day||
yup
ya, but it the name reveal certainly strengthen the belief
||They absolutely know what they are doing alluding to him in as many way as possible because they are in fact related, just that it wasn't his show yet||
also like. besides morpho base game forgotten land was pretty self contained storytelling wise
||I didnt really care if galacta made it in or not, but it all the theories for its involvement was growing pretty large for a decent section of the kirby community||
as the game got closer to release
i mean. with the further context given in scw this is up for debate, but idk like. i agree it would have been strange to see galacta knight just suddenly show up
||I found The real Neichel
https://x.com/neichel33||
||but the fecto believers won in the end ||
||Honestly I would love Galacta Knight but we already have like 3 knight fights in this game||
||But then again we have like 4 Elfilis fights so uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh||
||We literally did see Forgoās ugly head peeking out of the meteor but people still thought itās Galacta š š I guess many people believed Galacta as secret UCZEX boss but, yeah||
i think the fact that ||it's just elfilis again kinda works, because instead of throwing in another story's loose threads it resolved its own, by giving context on elfilis' motives and why and how the new world became abandoned through meteonelfilis' flavor text||
ngl
|| Fraud Knight||
||Honestly I do wish we couldāve gotten Morpho Knight EX in ZEX. I was so sure they were going to bring them back lol||
||you can literally see the larva eyes and antenna on the figure ||
||I thought it would be galacta before mainly cause I wasnāt sure what else would fit the motif||
||and genwel makes sense tbh||
||ugly ahh creature||
As for final boss expectations ||As an add on to an existing game, no was expecting either something new, or Elfilis again, and as we got more info that second one seemed more likely. I totally could see where people were coming from with the similarities, but I personally saw them as possible references just because those are fun.||
||I'm not opposed to seeing what Galacta would look like in 3d though. I think that could be very cool||
||I was one of the ZEX Galacta Knight believers lmao||
|| Iām still GKās biggest hater after this.||
||i said it before launch but i though we got weirdly little info about our main antagonist compared ot other games so building on it made sense||
||it having a sibling or another of its species was a good way to build on esp since it could be justified in following elfilis to the planet||
this
Yeah
the story feels so much meatier and more satisfying than it did in the base game
||i think establishing that there is a whole planet of these things is very fucking cool and scary||
||also something somethin asset reuse but im ngl the asset resuse here is so minor the giant phase is all original||
like i was completely just uninterested in base game kfl's story, but scw added much needed context and weight that has been allowing me to feel a little fucking insane about it
||What was bro on aboutš£ļø š£ļø š£ļø š£ļø š£ļø š£ļø š„ š„ š„ ||
|| They call him 007||
||but yea i like the backstory context here is cool though niechel's prophecy song transcending time is wack and dumb i dont think that was necessary||
Uh oh hot take
||her staying behind and making a happy song with melancholic lyrics is actually such a strong narrative choice too bad its fucked over in english||
Same, ||Neichel song attracting Elfilis seems dumb.||
||galacta also still got some lore in the end so. its not like GK fans totally lost. like idk i feel like establishing what even Sealed him is pretty important and interesting. especially since the game teases its not the last time we will see starries.||
I mean techinically you are paying 10 for the DLC and 10 for the Nintendo Switch 2 enhancement
||I feel like GK is being built up to, maybe he'll be back in a future game.||
OH MY GOD IS THAT WHAT THEY LEAKED??
||i dont mind the song attractive elfilis we also send out signals into space on the regular so its not far fetched that it would work for these people who are basically human||
||i mean why else would they give him some kind of lore in skc. for the lols?||
i just realized i never actually looked back at what the leaks showed
yeah we just had
||in-between phase cutscenes||
and thats it
without any context or gameplay
wow
||the time and space part is really unessesary though||
wasn't there also the soundtrack names leaked
Legit no gameplay leaked until the release day
that's good
and soundtrack itself yea
but yknow
it doesnt have much to chew on in tandem
||I think the message the song tries to convey is pretty cool but the song itself is pretty mid imo||
Most of main game just told us how ||they have suffered when they got experimented on and basic info on how they work, not much about how they got here and what they actually did. So much so we assumed overpopulation from the JP description rather than Elfilis almost finished their job instead of being immediately captured.||
Yes ||soundtrack and cutscene|| was the only thing that leaked, which is an actual miracle???
kill....
didn't some people say ||the name of the final boss was in the soundtrack||?
|| Neichel is rolling in her grave||
nah
||which one twinkling star or the unfinished one?||
people assumed but it wasnt true
||the latter||
||I donāt hate it||
||ppl thought para-whatever was the final boss name||
||but twinkling star showers is just so. SO good dude||
i dont feel like looking up that word rn
||its def not really meant to be a bop||
š
||its def more of a storytelling device then trying to be a song i think||
|| Klu, itās Panspermia||
||i think it slaps, but I'm a vocaloid fan and am predisposed to liking that kind of music||
|| the japanese lyrics gave me inta depression||
||people making magolor connections but i think its only really there to affirm the space ships they travelled in were basically the lor starcutter||
||idk it's like. really well written and produced. it's supposed to be unfinished, yes, but otherwise idk what you mean by that||
Smh let me be delusional
||i choose to adopt neichel is lor theory because 1) i see the vision 2) it's awesome and cool actually||
||Parastella Crystalis or something||
||niechel being the lor is kind of a reach esp since she never left and i think its way more tragic that way||
||but its clear to explict the spaceships were lor starcutters of some kind ||
||Japanese name when Genel Mefilis (I am never calling it the English name because I cannot say it)||
||but yea add this onto the pile of kirby characters with tragic backstories||
|| Mephiles! ||
||susie and Taranza is about to lose the competition /j||
||melfilis is awesome
meteonelfilis is also awesome but one I can consistently pronounce when rambling so||
||this one is rpretty sad but taranza is winning the trauma off sorry||
||dude got his gf killed cause he wanted to do something nice for her||
||Iām still mixed about this theory but I really dig the idea of Neichel bonding with Magolor and the others||
It's ok ||neither can we||
|| Whatās he doing nowadays||
||being a depsressed bitch cause thats all he can be characterized as by the community||
this is a joke
I have officially given up on actually using the final boss name and will just call ||him Gemfilis now||
Not really spoiler: https://x.com/tsumayoooooji12/status/1961730615667253643?s=46
Just noticed Kris š
Itās so funny š
Seal my Dark Fountain
Before the launch, I searched for the leak, quitted the social media app, and later clicked back in and saw people commented ||the final boss theme has multiple motifs. That's all I have been spoiled on, I don't think I even know about the name Galactals because it was a Kirby JP thing, right? I didn't translate the name.||
||i think its fine neichel stays a pretty minro character all things considered so im not subscribing to any lor or magolor theories||
100% ||i still think it's kind of funny how Neichel went from staying to "actually I really freaking regret staying"||
||yeah that element is so tragic||
this art feels like it's specifically made for me considering those are all the EXACT new games i've played this year
||well based on wondaria being abandoned it prolly was years after everyone had left and you know its very normal for someone to not want to leave their home||
||Does anyone know yet if genwel is beatable with all 30 abilities||
||Out of the base ones I've done hammer and sword, close with ranger and fire||
Yeah you can ||beat with any ability regardless of how strong they are using skills||
||Phase 3 DPS||
I would assume, like anything else ||some abilities might just take more effort/skill to use||
||Obviously the non DPS check parts are perfectly doable||
||Notably, ice is very good against phase 1 and perfectly viable against phase 2 but it's hard to tell if it can do phase 3||
||Tella Cry||
Off topic but who decided to name the group āBeast Packā?!
Ow
Do they ever actually call themselves that? I guess it would be more "does Leon ever call them that" because he's the only one who can speak
But like, if it's just figurines and friendly NPCs using the name in game, I HC that it's a nickname the town gave them
LOL NO WAY
Thanks Waddle Dees!
I didnāt even see this lmao
||Not only did Meteonelfilis absorb the Starries but he also absorbed everyoneās leitmotifs to use in his themes tooā¦||
||Concerning time travel in the Kirby series, one of the main reasons I'm ok with it, especially where forgotten land is concerned, is that time seems to move way faster there compared to Dreamland. But it especially seems to go by so fast that it seems weird how much of the world still seems to be in tact. If like a week could go by in a couple seconds in Popstar's dimension then it feels like basically everything on that world should be way more eroded if not completely dust at that point. So even beyond time progressing at different rates, full on time travel and things starting at different points in time really seems like the best way to keep everything straight||
||Guess what i found on Twitter-||
||She is real||
Does this fit this channel or does it not?
this sentence is still true without the kirby part
Confusing thing about the counter-interpretation.
||Would the earlier ships NOT have an AI?||
I feel like it would have to be used in a very modern real life term to fit that narrative.
|| the AI may have not been to complex or they might of had weird Al in general ||
I see, Tumblr and Twitter are barely different.
Me asking if literally anyone in universe would actually know what you're talking about if you said "Forgo"
Like who named that thing Fecto Forgo
Fecto Elfilis is clearly its real name and the people of the world called it ID-F86 both pre and post split
Where does the name Fecto Forgo come from I'm not convinced anyone actually knows that name in-universe
Like Elfilin split off from Elfilis and probably said 'my name is Elfilin' did the other half go 'aw man now that I'm a larva again and got abandoned I'm going to name myself after that, I am Forgor now.
i think its a name that new world peeps gave to them
Someone officially named it that, we just forgo who

i know X should be fake
but nice try I guess

SCW Final boss:
|| You know, does anyone even know Gemwel's name in forgotten land? Gemwell himself never says it so like, in universe who would know that. Astronomer Waddle Dee maybe? ||
|| i'm sure elfilis would know, but does elfilin?? ||
||in the forgotten land, all text is actually just english with a custom font||
ā¹ļø š
°ļøš² šāš·š§š©
I guess
funny that thereās a Neichel twitter account thatās fake
||kirby just reads the text that pops into existence when the fight starts, the Soul Forgo āfightā shows that the text physically is there and is 3d||
||cause it doesnāt move when the camera pans over to Morpho Knight||
||More that it doesn't fade out of existence||
||Also the text does produce shadows underneath||
||Ok yea when you hit Crystal Gigant Edge into phase 2 while he's dizzy from backstriking him shielding he gets undizzy immediately where on base game variations he waits out the entire dizzy period||
The text being diegetic would be very funny
I hate gambling
find the Kirby (check the no spoiler thread for context)
easy peasy
||First image: bottomish far left. Ice ability kirby is blocking hunkered down. The more sand colored of the gems
Second: semi center of the screen, slight right. Ice ability Kirby blocking again. Overlapped with the bottom yellow sphere effect
Third: Left bottom middle area-||
||DANG IT
||
||whatās āDANG IT
ā mean||
||RHV beat me to it
||
also hereās the other 4 for no particular reason
can't stop thinking about the (UCZEX) ||new deadly sun attack, still can't get over how peak that is||
||mr shine and mr bright did it first so they're cooler||
||mr shine and bright walked so that chaos elfilis could run||
YEAH
||The Starry spirits at the endā¦||
||Can someone animate meteonelfilis like this||
maybe I'm going crazy lol (spoilers for everything) ||are the vocals in most SCW songs related to elfilis (as they have vocals in roche limit) or neichel or both lol||
(final boss) ||Huh, this is the attack that summons a giant Chaos Elfilis shadow in the background, and Meteon's theme is called "The Falling Star Now Pierces Through the Lagrange Point - Sing of Radiant Theia" and can actually make himself as the shadow.||
I think ||the vocals from Neichel's songs only applies to the creepy one in Star-Crossed World (level). Final boss music using vocals that sang by the boss themselves isn't new but the added masculine choir to Roche Limit (starry) is because of Meteon, and the feminine voice of the song always belongs to Elfilis.||
UZEX: ||WAIT THEY ACTUALLY REFERENCED DARK NEBULA???||
they did?
||Crystal Elfilisā eyeball attack has a fire, ice, and green phase like Dark Nebula, and the eyeballs themselves resemble Dark Nebulaās more than any other one-eyed enemy I can think of ||
Goons
[UCZex Final Boss]
||Just mechanically it's more a reference to para-matter from Canvas Curse, as they also have fire/ice/zap attacks, and can be knocked back to damage the boss, but their attack patterns are nearly 1:1 in this fight||
But this is sort of a chicken/egg situation here-
||Not only that but if you hit them, they go back to attack the boss itself lol||
Me when ||Canvas Curse|| is still the only Kirby game Iāve never played
Wait, nvm, Iām thinking of ||Rainbow Curse|| still been a while since Iāve played ||Canvas||
||Sir this is a para matter's||
||I mean thinking this is a dark nebula reference at least makes more sense than the people I've seen think its Miracle Matter somehow||

||At least I still have the pupil shape⦠either way, Drawciaās Greed sickens me||
||Drawcia is Kuma's nepo baby||
||kumazaki don't reference drawcia challenge||
||how will we recognize a soul boss if it isn't just Drawcia though
||
AU where ||mass attack is the game that gets referenced all the time and we get necrodeus everywhere.||
||tbh thinking about it though, drawcia does have a lot of sauce which makes it a fun boss to keep referencing ||
||Sheās also pretty much the Mother of Kumazaki Brand Kirby creepiness after all||
||Has anyone made a render for Melfilis yet?||
I'm guessing we gonna wait for magazine or something then?
||Have we decided if Lord of Chaos is the hardest boss in Kirby history yet?||
||I was capable of beating it without wanting to break things, so nah it's challenging but not that that bad||
They're never making a render so we'll have to depend on cutting them out from a screenshot 
||I mean, you could make it the hardest by only using abilities or something, but there are far more ways to make it easier than most other Soul Bosses||
||Always bet on Hal using concept art of it for a collectable ||
I beat it wow
I almost completed all stariies
Thereās a couple levels I canāt figure out
How do you kill those twins with crash ?
when was the last time we got an official render of a final boss
and no that sectonia smash ultimate spirit doesn't count because it's also not her final form
i guess it would be necrodeus, not even a render actually
oh wait, i forgot about waning crescent masked dedede and waxing crescent masked meta knight, of course!
||THIS PMO WHERES MY VOID TERMINAL MODEL HAL||
||theres a lil hidden room before them with one of those walking nuke guys that give crash or you can just do what i did and get it from waddle dee town and go through the entire level without using it||
I tried but thereās a fight where you have to kill unless you fly and breath out a by bunch
i just spammed slide attacks
there's also the time honored tradition of "drop ability, defeat some enemies as no ability, regrab your ability before it disappears, repeat"

I ushered sleep through the final level of forgo dreams this way one time, all to get a stupid screenshot of napping in front of morpho lol
pfft
||God every time I see it its just like
Its crazy how beautiful every effect and visual is in Genwel's fight compared to anything in the main game of FL||
||You can really feel they put a lot more focus into things looking beautiful at every step and not just there for mechanical purposes||
||Like every time I look in the background of any phase of Genwel's fight and see the lightning I'm just like 'what the fuck'||
||the crystals are a really good aesthetic||
||
||
||I JUST NO HIT GENWEL 2 WITH PLAIN ASS FIRE KIRBY||
||That said, I almost died to phase 3 because it's damn near impossible with plain ass fire kirby||
||I can't imagine how I'm going to do it with anything worse?||
||This was already so weak that the eye survived getting deshelled the first time and I had to do the third cycle twice||
||I spoiled myself on genwel 2 and wow
it must be embiggened genwel but the fight is still so cool.||
It's cinema
||i think genwel 2 is really enhanced by the fact that it reflects chaos elfilis's huge projection attack||
||so that just like a thing they can do or is genwel special||
||HAL cooked with this final boss as usual, I do wish the regular levels ended in bosses too tho||
||the cutscene name for it is also the same as the move name||
Which is?
||Giant Impact||
||don't forget Lagrange Point||
||The blue background with the lightning and rain is easily one of the most gorgeous backdrops I've seen from the Kirby series||
||Waiter waiter! More boss fights that take place in the rain please!!!!!!!ā¤ļø ||
||big fan of whatever is happening here||
||May the spears rain upon ye||
||Oh yeah something cool to note is how the lightning changes from yellow to pink when he transitions into Phase 2 of his first form||
||friend inside me.........
friend inside his horns....||
||yes I just no hit genwel 2 again with plain ass ranger kirby||
||I better not die to phase 3||
||almost did||
||Poor Genwel keeps getting misgendered.||
||I just beat The Ultimate Cup Z EX with NO ABILITIES||
||No continues, no outside healing items or drinks. Just base Kirby and nothing else||
Congrats!
Thanks!
47 minutes with no deaths OMFG
Hey quick question there's only a single Crystal Tortuilding in the game right
Because I'm pretty sure they like
Massively fucked up the tortuilding descriptions even more than they did in base game but maybe I'm the idiot
i think theres 2 blue guys
ohh hmm ok
1 red guy that shoots pieces of buildings
there's more than one yeah
||Well either way they at least fucked up the Crystal Big Red Tortuilding description lol
It says he's a member of a Tortuilding family of bosses in redgar
Which doesn't even match the base game description of Big Red Tortuilding which was mistranslated in a different way to say he was the boss of all tortuilding||
||5 base abilities vs genwel down now: hammer, sword, fire, ice, ranger. Which is next best out of cutter, bomb, needle?||
||oh well there is only one red one yeah||
||Oh yea the 2 crystal tortuilding are almost right beside each other too||
||btw I am pretty sure phase 3 crystal keeps getting weaker every time you fail, ice failed 3 or 4 times on some cycles and I definitely saw more cracks each try||
||btw genwel 2 is such an awesome fight with the weak abilities bc you get to see all of the attack patterns, I highly recommend trying with something like sword||
||reminds me of fighting Soul of Sectonia with weak abilities, she had some disgusting patterns that most players just never got to see||
||it only goes up to the first level of cracked for subsequent attempts||
||huh, then i guess i was just playing better each attempt||
||it did seem like it took successively less hits to get to the 2nd level of cracks each time though?||
||it does get easier to break, but there's a limit on how weak it gets after like 3 or so failures + soul crashes ||
||oh ok that makes more sense||
||It never got to the point where it started with more visible cracks so yeah||
||so which is best out of cutter, bomb, and needle||
||(I'm pretty sure drill and Tornado just aren't happening)||
both tornado & needle are very dependent on star drops as they can toss them & the boss tends to throw out a lot of them at times
cutter is prob one of the safer and easier options to use otherwise
I do have an issue with getting stuck in the final cutter animation and taking hits bc of it lol prob a skill issue
I tend to play an extremely crowdy playstyle bc hammer main but cutter is so much about spacing
I think it'll be fun to figure out the fight with it for sure
final cutter's problem is that you cant throw out another cutter until the one that was sent out returns to you
in some cases, it might be better to just throw & hold a cutter in place instead of going up close to use final cutter
Yeah, I need to break the habit of living rent free right in the boss's face with cutter
it's good enough for right when the boss moves away in time / phase transitions at least, but I havent followed any recent TAs of cutter as of late
to know what's the actual strat
How do you get the ||elfilin dialogue|| after 100%ing SCW?
I don't crowd knights like that tho, so ig I need to play cutter the way I'd fight meta and morpho but against everyone
I even crowd when I play ranger unless the boss has projectile dodge windows LOL
what is crowd
I think they mean "get up in the boss's face and not keep any distance, even with a ranged ability "
I see
fight for the crowd
||No but seriously ēµę¶ä½ What does this mean when you see it yukkuri
I would've read this as 'crystal lifeform' but like
That doesn't make any sense ig and like sure ä½ can mean a lot of things but||
I thought this said āCROWNEDā and got overly excited
||what description was this again||
||Errrr I mean who||
Oh!
||THATS A LIFE FORM?||
Gotcha
||I mean I'd probably just shrug and say 'idk weird wording maybe' and write it as Crystal Mass instead or something but idk||
what is it in eng
||Crystal Bits||
inchresting
||ēµę¶ä½ is a crystal structure⦠right? Similar to how in scientific stuff when chemical turns into crystal⦠I canāt remember but something like Hydra was it? Had ēµę¶ä½, maybe you can check them out??||
||Ok yea structure makes sense||
||based on Hydra from Cthulhu; ēµę¶ä½: å®éØć®åå¦č¬åćēµę¶åćć¦åŗę„ćē©. Seems like something like crystal structure is the closest||
huh from huh
IC
For a bit more context because it is similar, ||ę¶é« in Chinese is crystal, ēµę¶ is crystallisation but can also mean crystal sometimes. It's rare to use them all together as a word even for Chinese, and it seems rare in Japanese as well. Probably used a weird and archaic way to write "Crystal/Crystal Structure" to make it more fancy I guess. ||
||definitely not a life form in this context.||
arlo is really going through his kirby redemption arc, praised the dlc a lot
Not me crying in negative way because ||Someone DMd me they didnāt like both of the Leon battle theme (Judgement and Onward from Magolor Epilogue)|| š š š
||Like, sure, I can kinda see how some people donāt like that song specifically used, it doesnāt feel 100% like a battle theme against Leon, but they literally used that song for a specific reason||
||But they straight up just donāt like the song in general and Iām like </3||
||I asked the reason and they said it doesnāt sound like boss theme. ITS BECAUSE ITS FROM MAGOLOR EPILOGUEEEEEEE. I know Iām a Magolor and Epilogue mega fan but those song arenāt from this gameeeeee itās literally a hub BGM and a final level BGM oughhhhhhh (Onward is my second favorite Kirby song)||
||I was more excited hearing the song playing in ZEX more than the final boss itself in SCW (Mefilis)||
||Honestly I was mildly disappointed that they did the Star Allies thing for 3 of the last bosses just because I prefer their regular themes lol. I canāt really blame them for doing it as a treat though.||
||the thing is they didnāt like the song in general and not only because it played in the boss. I donāt mind and I kinda understand the song being different kinda feels weird, but I just got upset over a random slander only because it played in ZEX while their first appearance is form Magolor Epilogue </3||
||Yeah itās a weird songs to have a problem with in general.||
||They said if they heard this song in RTDLDX first, they wouldāve probably liked it, but they heard them in this game first, so they hate them||
||I enjoy that that mixed up the music for the last four. It was a nice surprise. I'm biased towards enjoying like all Kirby music, period, and I'm a sucker for call backs||
||Plus theyāre not just using older music because they feel like it or just for a nostalgia purpose, all of them has a meaning to why itās being used, and hence why I love this franchiseās callback to music ||
||i think it was a cool move because if you played the game many times like i did it will be an unexpected surprise lol||
||Yeah honestly the only reason why I would have preferred their normal themes is because itās been so long since Iāve played Forgotten Land. Iāll probably end up appreciating that they put in music from spin offs⦠and the final boss of Star Allies for some reason .||
||Like it makes sense since Morpho debuted in SA but itās still funny to me that itās the only non-spin off track lol||
||Like, HR-D3 playing Roar of Dedede in RTDLDX because theyāre related to Dedede in a way from past, Daranza theme playing for Phantom Forgo Dedede because of connection of ābeing possessed and controlled like a puppetā and āDededeās themeā, Supreme Rulerās Coronation - OVERLORD playing for TA Magolor Soul because the song originally focused about Magolorās adventure and how much he had grown since but TA with back chorus made the song change its meaning to āa hopeless song about how Kirby cannot save Magolorā, Forgo Leon playing Judgment and Onward because Forgo Dreams and Magolor Epilogue are both post game content, and has similarity and parallel like Scattered Souls vs Onward etc.||
its just hitting me
maybe it was obvious for everyone else
||but starries... faces? look kinda similar to the lor's sail||
||yeahhhhh I believe that was one of the first thing that was discussed when Starries first introduced||
||Did anyone ever make that connection with Galactaās shield before? Honestly it makes his inclusion in RTDL feel much less random.||
||Lor, Starries, Pres. Parallel Susie for example, they all have the another dimensionās dimensional rift related mark, but Lor and Starries especially look very much alike||
||Lor looks the coolest, lol (bias)||
||ooooo never noticed pres. susie's||
||Literally killing Magolor for introducing Another Dimension lore||
you know whats beautiful
||another dimension wasnt used for anything in star-crossed world š„³ ||
||FL DLC 2 will bring in Hyper Another Dimension||
||But Kuma!!!!!!! Whereās my Dark Matter lore!! Whereās my Dream Kingdom lore!! Whereās my Magolor lore!!!!! Magolore!!!!!||
||Whereās Drawcia!!!!||
||drawcia's mysterious fourth sister will appear stay assured||
||No Elfilis, you are never gonna be Drawcia||
||Canāt wait to find out Neichelās twin sister is an artist and sheās the one who drew Drawcia and other paintings||
||Her name? Ad O. Line ||
š š š š š
||Confirmed to be unrelated to Ado/Adeline in an interview||
You know what would be even FUNNIER????
||If she was related to Adeleine||
it wasnt until someone posted the texture that I realized there's a four point star in the lor's mast logo
its just. behind everything else
||yeah here's texture for reference||
||I mean, ZEX stuff technically is still a mysterious space||
||though we don't know if that counts as another dimension or not but we technically don't know that for lot of FL stuff in general||
||really the rips in the sky in SCW stages also feel another dimension-ish||
||perhaps... It just doesn't feel as blatant to me as treasure roads/or vortex that brought everyone there in the first place||
||mysterious vortexs and dimensions||
||they more so call back to the skybox changing for Elfilis' second phase I think, however both do share that weird another dimensional rift motif that Galacta(l) Knight can perform/cut too since PR||
||Is this what happens now ever since they started to reuse music specifically in the boss rush modes
||
||when ME starts to play FL related music near the end of the mode: disgusting terrible incredibly unpleasant to hear #NotMyAnotherDimension||
||which Giant Impact mogs||
||I like how if you stall Meteonelfilis Phase 1 they do the crystal shield while throwing meteors at you like in Phase 3||
||when genwel sucks out... the energy? out of the crystal arena and it gets all reflective and shit. this is the most next-gen kirby game has ever looked, its positively stunning||
||especially with the lightning in the background AND IT ALSO being reflected||
||it basically works like the genome repair of elfilis but in a more offensive usage||
||if you do break it it gives the same stun effect as elfilis during that move||
JP cutscene names
||Whose first reactions to Roche Sphere here was "Oh it's just Dark Mind."
||
||other than "Oh šļø !!!"||
||Oven the Beach||
Thanks!
was talking about this one in another server earlier, ||č¼å·Øę are actually 'Bright giants', they localized it as 'Massive Shining Star' in English version for some reason||
||guess they took the kanji too literally and didn't look up what it actually meant||
||You know when Roche Sphere/Soul Genwel is defeated before the Starries seal them up again they start reacting in a very similar way to when Marx Soul was being formed, same purple color too||
||thought I mention it since I don't think nobody has talked about it yet||
WAIT
WAIT
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
MY MIND IS FUCKING BLOWN
SO HARD RIGHT NOW
||SURVIVAL SWORD BOUNCER IS A PUN||
||THE DESTINED SURVIVALS||
||btw ęčå½¢ which you translated as 'star-shaped' more specifically refers to an 'Astroid', that one they did localize correctly in English version||
(old crusty pic but just to show lol)
anyway, ||god I really wish they kept this to some degree in English, there wasn't really a reason to change it completely here (could have made it 'Survivors' if they really needed to)||
||'The Rivalry Lives On' just sounds sort of....bland (and doesn't really fit with what figure is about) imo (and didn't realize it was supposed to be another Destined Rivals thing specifically until I saw JP name)||
||oh so it's supposed to be a callback to that game yet for whatever reason the localizers never made the connection?||
||do other translations keep the reference in?||
||you mean other localizations of SCW? idk, European Spanish at least seems to follow the English version with how they localized it; I assume Chinese and Korean ones would be closer to JP at least (as usual)?||
||I question the use of Star Conquering Traveler for Morpho instead of just the original Morpho theme for UCZEX||
||I mean, it's probably mostly because there was already lot of weird small Void-Morpho connections to begin with||
||it's still Star Allies related though so lol||
||that too lol||
||I'm more surprised that they didn't do Morpho Knight EX this time as an extra surprise on top of the Lord of Chaos version of Elfilis||
||however I guess they still wanted to be consistent with the original UCZ||
||whether this whole DLC is just a parallel or not||
||Ares the staff appears when the crystal arena is restored so ehhh||
||it's a blink and you'll miss it detail in that cutscene||
||which why else would they do that?||
||funny move that controls your friends, similar eye stuff (on sword for Morpho; though note there was some concept art with straight-up Master Crown-esque sword instead), giant sword moves, EX coloring similarities (Corrupt Hyness is also similar though), fiery traits, paradise-related stuff I guess, obviously Morpho was originally fought on Divine Terminus, etc.||
||welcome back continuity of soul boss battles in true arenas||
||Its been like 3 hours and Iām still arguing about Onward with this dude||
Iām going LOSE MY MIND
||I think it's other way around at minimum, ZEX is the one that happened (if SCW happened)||
||it's either that or a parallel Chaos Elfilis (it did traverse dimensions to get the spear anyway)||
||what a Psychomeddler
||
AYO
||oh damn, different reading of it?||
||Yea, that says emono, prey||
||Mfw ateji||
I can't wait to find out about like 12 more of these things in descriptions that I missed b/c I wasn't looking 
I donāt think you missed out much lol
wait what lol
Start of the context
Iām having a mega beef argument
||If Kumazaki says this edition of the game is a parallel version of the original FL in an interview I will believe him however can you?
||
bruh ||onward is peak, I can understand the "doesn't sound like a battle theme" for judgement but not onward||
||though anyway this is the funny kirby thing of "reuse music for special boss battles" that they've been doing since KSA so I don't personally care||
||Onward was already used for a mid-boss tower after all, so of course it fits||
down here ā¬ļø
||really like the way they used them both though||
||just wish they were somehow able to keep the name connection in English even more now lol||
||ultimately whichever cup you think is canon doesnt matter since the result is the same||
||āLeongarās theme is betterā well duh of course because that song was made for the battle š š||
||still gonna argue it's both, it's funny
||
||its weirdly satisfying that elfilin calls him "Kirby of the Stars" in his thank you letter||
||I think there's a possibility to it being canon after SCW is done though whether the event of Star Crossed World is before or after defeating Elfilis remains a mystery||
||though Elfilin kind of implying it's after?||
||Elfilin and Magolor on their competition who says āKirby of the Starsā more||
||Im still crying every time I reread the TA Magolor Soulās āKirby of the Starsā||
||I hope the title becomes a staple for characters to refer about him in the future||
||well in english elfilin is winning, step up magolor
||
||my headcanon for the ucz situation is that the two timelines run parallel, ucz for base forgotten land and ex for ns2 edition with the star cross world inclusion as they both have the same end point of elfilin becoming whole again||
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||I can 100% see kumazaki saying something like this in an interview, just how he talked about RtDLD being a parallel to RtDL lol||
||Wow, that final boss was insane! I really had to give it my all!||
Adventure Dedede is a GOAT </3
||...lowkey what the hell tone is this last sentence supposed to have
Is it like
Supposed to sound serious
IDK if its just the double exclamation mark but it almost looks ironic to me lol||
||Nah it sounds normal tbh
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||the exclamation mark is there just to make the word stronger||
||lol
Guess it just doesn't work well directly in English||
||Actually am I misreading the sentence
Should it be more like||
||(Previous sentence.) In order to inevitably eat away at and destroy the star once its been targeted!!||
Wait was this figure a fucking KF2 reference all along
We win???
itās canonā¦
||still feels so bad for Dedede for starving||
||honestly Dedede in general, got the worse out of it. Because he was starving, and he had not much choice, since itās dedede. he cant fight if hes starvin||
||itās MORE understandable why he is acting the way he is after the story mode. And idk about English description of the one figure where Dedede is acting lazy, but the Japanese version makes my heart squeeze so hard as a Dedede fan||
|| He needed whatever the new world equivalent is to snickers||
||He still owes the Dees a formal apology I guess
||
||The ultimate Tsundede my beloved||
||even though the Dees have shown to have forgiven/stand by him still||
||the Deeās knows Dededeās personality so well, they know how nice he is hence why theyāre so loyal to him <3333||
||bro fell into depression and starved no wonder he got mind controlled||
||They really got the worse out of him⦠like genuinely||
||so if Dedede isn't depressed and starve would he got mind controlled?||
||I wouldāve lost my sanity and lose my guard very easily as well if I was in Dededeās shoe, regardless of if Iām one of the strongest guy in entire Popstar||
wait
|| I mean Taranza did that just fine, Yin Yarn too||
||yeah but what if Dedede build up resistance to it.||
||those times were a bit different. it acted more like possession rather than psychic influence||
||i assume if he was in a better state he would be likelier to resist or something||
||Just gonna plop this down
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wbRK3V-ibe_l3g14S2Yo3IqITeQRouME6M6whvlvrVw/edit?usp=sharing
These are all literally my first pass of the text, I haven't looked back over any of them after writing them so it's pretty rough but I probably won't get around to that for a bit
Plus I'll probably compare my translations with Starpunch's when I do look over them
There's things already on my mind like whether I should've written meteor as plural or singular in different places and stuff like that||
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||Taranza is a whole different story, but, Yinyarn also got MK as well. While he was resisting for a moment, he ended up falling for it. It was also a surprise attack. In terms of MK vs Dedede, MK has stronger mentality and has higher surviving skills in general, versus Dedede who is āhe is very strong and knows what to do, but he doesnāt have super strong mentality compared to MKā. Also for all we know, Dedede seemed to be in worst situation on where he was sent when he first arrived to New World. Dream Land has plenty of food source, but New World didnt. The whole environmental changes can get someone very easily. MK is more used to these situation because he trains all the time in part of Popstar that⦠probably doesnt have much food sources. Thereās just so much differences||
||just like Leongarf
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Wow my discord on this device is stuck in update from like 2021 or 2022 so I struggled to get pin stuff lol
I was attending my uni lecture and I kept telling my brain to stop singing ||unfinished song|| but it didnt work and now Iām crying midclass š
Never hum a kirby song that makes you emotional mid class
(I was humming twinkling star and died)
Kirby game dont make me cry challenge (fail) (I was crying replaying SKC last night)
||I hope unfinished song or twinkling star shower + welcome to the new world gets added to kirby cafe in near future. If anything, they should sneak in moonlight canyon as well lol||

100% spoiler ||itoki hana last song cover please š ||
100% spoiler ||also this tweet is crazy. does they know??? ||
||Tra-la-la-la-la, you animals!||
||elfilis when the beast pack couldnt stop kirby||
š š š
||we got this in trade of multiple "kirby of the stars" in english
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||(I will take it)||
||the most unintentionally hilarious sentence in an english kirby script in quite some time||
||If only they removed two "laāsā¦"||
|| If he wasn't mind controlled he might've done the other stranded trope of building a doll of someone he knows and treating it as his best friend to fill the lonely hole in his heart that the current situation put in him ||
did you watch this btw
||DUCKTALES 2017 MENTION!!!||
yeah
it was mostly just a regular playthrough lol
but i did leave a comment and he actually hearted it and left a nice reply
number of people who i have successfully explained the concept of "canon" in kirby to is now greater than zero
DONALD JUMPSCARE
Oh it's not even like an actual analysis video lol
yeah lol
Ducktales 2017 my beloved
Suppose any worthwhile analysis video would take longer than a week to be made anyway lol
oh that's cool
ah lol
Now's your chance š„
Just install your userbase with eye-catching titles and thumbnails and then get them to stay with the Accurate Lore Analysis
I really wish we had a good kirby lore video, maybe now it- YEAH
Or use your depths of wikirby account to plug it lol
anyway I made this to represent how I've been feeling the past few days (implied spoilers for everything)
i need to like
well first of i need youtube to fucking stop being stupid and give me back my ability to add links and pinned messages in my videos after they removed it for literally no reason
then i need to get a good editing software
then i need to mentally be able to talk into a microphone
because i do not wanna use tts
i would also probably need an actually good microphone
and also the time to record when my family isn't home because they're always pretty loud
and i also would not like talking to a microphone while they're there
i would also need motivation of course
and uh i would also need a million dollars so please give me that
Yeah that's real š i would hate talking into a mic for youtube vids I'd feel weird about my voice
This is still insane
how much lore do you think ando actually knows, considering all the motifs he uses (especially in ||sing of radiant theia||)
or is kumazaki just like "yeah you're allowed to use the dale leitmotif in the final boss theme, i won't say why though"
||likely enough to put it in music lol because I think he once was like "yeah kumazaki explained what the final boss was like and I went 'I didn't get all of it but ok sure'" regarding KSA LOL so I imagine he doesn't understand everything||
||"yeah so melfilis in his third phase has like a crystal shield similar to galacta knight's seal so you can use his motif. also he looks kinda like void so you can reference his theme too"||
||~~tbh I don't think anyone at HAL understands what the hell is going on with the lore other than kumazaki and who is to say he also understands everything
~~||
Does he know? He doesnāt know!
||Im still processing that we have an undeniable link between the ancients and the new worlders||
||Like it always existed but they were so coy with it||
||the spaceship reveal is still like we knew they were hiding that one important detail from the wear and tear sign yet still...||
spoiler!!!
guys isn't this right here the kirby's dreamland credits theme
you gotta spoiler tag final boss stuff
Whoop
this is a channel called
Too late
SPOILERS
Spoiler tag pls
have you read our spoiler policy
#adorable-announcements
I recommend you to read our spoiler policy in announcements
It was posted few days ago
years without reading the rules?
/j
ermm it hints that it's a song!1
i'll just repost what i wanted to post with the tags
The title of the song is still considered as spoilers
Final Boss Parastella Crystallis Genwel Meteonelfilis Music!
Listen to all Kirby Star-Crossed World Forgotten Land DLC Songs! #kirby #kirbystarcrossedworld #kirbyandtheforgottenland #ost #music #nintendoswitch2
āŗ Full Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLltD0VqVxLyOdNmi2Ge9cJpoCMT7JqjUh
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||Isn't this the kirby's dreamland credits theme?||
||but yeah that section does seem to be based on a new wind for tomorrow||
||for like a couple seconds||
||yeah wikirby does say it||
||Cant believe Kirby died||
and obviously anything wikirby says is objectively true
|| star allies printed that motif in my mind with how much it abused it||
||there's a lot of similarites between new wind for tomorrow and that one part of magolor's theme right. #noooticing||
I only trust JP Fandom wiki

