LEAKS for Star-Crossed World (and FL Switch 2)

[coral falcon]

||The species just specifically despises the New World in particular||

[dire ledge]

yeah but again theyre stated to be ||direct siblings or kin, they are determined to be of the same species regardless of their weird differences||

[vapid pawn]

||Could crash accidentally tho ||

[dire ledge]

Also, the ||invader species is also dependent on what they consume, and are also shown to change themselves if the need arises||

[scenic needle]

||Maybe||
at this point I dont know what cosmic events from IRL are the fault of ||Elfilis and Genwel|| in universe

[dire ledge]

there's no real reason why ||Genwel's orb can't be the way it is||

[vapid pawn]

||Also tbf if we wanna take the Fermi Paradox thing, pretty sure Elfilis had a Giant Impact attack too LOL||

[halcyon anchor]

|| I REALLY like this trend of the remakes introducing a crazier final boss but then making it so the original superboss is crazier still, as to not supplant them in their games ||

[coral falcon]

||Could be the whole thing with Chaos going on if that's the case||

[scenic needle]

||the giant projection?||
||also the giga meteor was called "Answer to the fermi paradox" in a game guide||

[coral falcon]

Not sure what it means though

[paper spade]

|| Okay surs but explain the eye ball core, why is it the signature Dark Matter Eyeball? Could have just been a blank sphere like Elfilis? Why does it die the same way Zero does is DL3? ||

[dire ledge]

That's also true, their main shared motif is ||Chaos, and Soul||

[dire ledge]

||Its a crystal eye because it has absorbed Starries, the same way Elfilis' core is dark red instead of mint blue because of whatever happened to him after he escaped Morpho when Morpho was defeated||

and again

We see ||goop orb when the Starries start sealing Genwel back up again||

[halcyon anchor]

I think there is the potential to do some mind bending || zero lore, with both the elfilin species and void, in either the new game or a dark matter trilogy remake ||

[vapid pawn]

I am aware

[dire ledge]

||Goop Orb seems to be their most base form, and only through consuming things do they shape their form to what they want or what they have||

[coral falcon]

||I will say, the fact that the meteor is still associated with the possibility of birth and life, to the point that a track brings up Panspermia, is relevant (just not to this game). How does the meteor create life? What does it even mean?||

[scenic needle]

||I mean tbf the eye actually looks like the starry eye, which makes me think it came from the starries||

[paper spade]

|| Okay but this doesn't explain the exact Zero DL3 death lights it admits ||

[dire ledge]

no one can explain dark matter not even kumazaki

[scenic needle]

odd that it's the ||Older one then when with Fecto-Elfilis, its elfilis form was the base form||

[dire ledge]

we do not have the information

regardless I think they have very similar ||rules and fucntions that they adhere to||

[scenic needle]

||probably meant to be a callback because "eye" or something||

[paper spade]

Of course, we don't have all the information, it's why we are theorizing here in the first place

[dire ledge]

like i can believe theyre also dark matter but we genuinely dont know

[paper spade]

Id argue that's a weak point, they didn't need to use only those 3 colors rbh

[dire ledge]

but what we do know is that ||Void and the Invader Species share very odd similarities not just in function but also in physical visuals and combative actions||

[scenic needle]

||i mean it wouldnt be a reference then???||

||besides, the figures don't draw a connection to dark matter outside of this and single eye entities that are fakeout dark matters but not really DO exist (cough cough master crown)||

||remember when the master crown literally appears like zero while within magolor and then dx revealed it was just a corrupted artifact and not posessed by zero||

[paper spade]

From a designinf world building lore perspective, you don't just casually drop something related to one of the franchises most notorious villains and have it just be haha Easter egg, like it's RIGHT in your face. You can't just have haha confidences

[dire ledge]

I think it means something i just dont know what

Also wait

huh

DL3 is about Dark Matter getting beat by Hearts

[scenic needle]

and yet
they already did

[dire ledge]

K64 is about Dark Matter getting beat by Crystals

[paper spade]

What does this mean? These two are directly connected lol

[scenic needle]

look at magolor soul's eye

look at it close and well
look familiar

[dire ledge]

Anyway them being ||dark matter is non-zero chance|| we just dont have much evidence to back it up because they ||barely touch on dark matter||

[scenic needle]

yet deluxe showed that the crown had no relation to zero after all

[dire ledge]

like

[scenic needle]

hell chaos elfilis uses 02's color scheme and yet it also is pointless lore wise

[paper spade]

Who ever said the Crown was related to Zero specifically and not just dark matter in general?

[dire ledge]

the closest thing we have of new ifnromation about ||Dark Matter|| is Gooey's special in Kirby's Air Riders

[scenic needle]

it wasnt even dark matter

it was evil because corrupt halcandran rulers warped its nature by linking iwth it over time

[strong furnace]

[scenic needle]

and? the implication is that the crown was used against void, not that it created the crown

[coral falcon]

||I'm still more so thinking they are species akin to Dark Matter, since they share similarities to Dark Matter in behavior but don't really seem to be associated with darkness||

[paper spade]

Who said Void created the crown lmao what

[scenic needle]

(from magolor soul extra mode pause description in remake)

[dire ledge]

Agree, they aren't ||weak to Crystals, instead they control it||

||Void Termina however, is definitely weak to Hearts||

[coral falcon]

Definitely

[scenic needle]

that seems to be the generally liked implication most of the time and in the xontext of what i was saying that was the argument i persed

[coral falcon]

Heart definitely seems like the weakness of Darkness

[paper spade]

Lmao I see, I don't believe so personally. Id argue that the Crown is likely infused with Dark Matter somehow, like it's a minimum a Sentient crown with traits of dark matter

[strong furnace]

I like to imagine the crown used the stuff dark matter is made of to complete its takeover of magolor

[paper spade]

Like for context, Hyness workships Dark Matter (in his speech he refers to Dark Matter as in the substance Dark Matter like Heart Matter, Dream Matter etc, not the character or species Dark Matter

[dire ledge]

Hyness is kind of unreliable too, even teh developers say so, because he's kind of revenge hungry

In the back of my mind, there is a non-zero chance that Hyness could have mistaken Void Termina for something else, like, again, functions similar, but might not be what theyre actually looking for

[paper spade]

Like I believe the Dark Matter Species is the Sentient concentrated essence of the Dark Matter substance, which would make the most sense given what we know

[dire ledge]

especially considering that we now know there are ||Multiple heart shaped objects that get sealed by things (the Elfilis and Genwel meteors)||

[paper spade]

Ooo, what if it's like... Void reincarnates into idk the meteors? They crash Land and depending on what its reincarnation is, brings destruction or life like the figures say?

[dire ledge]

||Idk, Void Termina is said to be 1 being in all dimensions, while Elfilis and Genwel are clearly two seperate beings that are of the same species||

Again, they have similar functions but they're slightly different enough to be classified different

[strong furnace]

Maybe!

[dire ledge]

and we have these distinctions because we have a lot of descriptions and details about ||Void Termina, Elfilis, and Genwel||

we dont have this luxury for Dark Matter

[digital trench]

So is there a document on elfilis's species yet? I NEED TO KNOW

[paper spade]

Well, it's Void specifically, I think Void Termina is the human bird thing. Like their the same entity technically but are also separate

[neon bison]

please don't forget to use spoiler tags

there has been a ton of messages in here without tags

[dire ledge]

@vapid pawn do yu have one

[warped yew]

hey guys last words before a voidpost text wall

[vapid pawn]

Ion have like a full collection nah

all i got was ts

[paper spade]

Yeah actually, because didn't the book of legends from Hyness say that Void was also seen as a "Star" or something like thatm

[dire ledge]

||There's no denying that Elfilis and Genwel can both be metaphorical and/or physical stars, same as Void, but again Void is a being that exists in all dimensions which you can't really say of Elfilis and Genwel who travel space specifically to appear on your doorstep to conquer and destroy/eat worlds||

[warped yew]

I think that at this point its safe to assume that the whole "orb with an eye" thing, among many other aspects found in final bosses that serve both as callbacks, storytelling or just straight up asset reuse, is a meaningful stablished reoccuring theme within, at the very least, kumazaki's vision of the franchise, which, compared to the vision of other directors, is by far the most planned out and most elaborate as he provides his own rules and ideas for how the kirby universe works, at least within his stories.

if i were to guess the lore reason as to why there are so many connections to void, is because kuma stablished void as a mixture of the four matters that seem to be so important to the kirby universe (dream, dark, soul, and heart), as void is called this original ancestor and everything within the franchise comes from those matters.

so its not really a "is this character dark matter?" situation in my opinion, its moreso that all within the kumazaki kirby universe follows the idea that its connected to these ideas (iguess the matters, or void, whatever you wanna call them) stablished by kuma as a way to bridge both content from previous directors and his work. said primordial matters probably are the reason we keep seeing so much reoccuring aspects, as they are what seemingly connects everything together as a rule within the universe.
of course the nature of these rules will always be mysterious as we dont really know why they work, we just know they do, and they are applied to the grand story kuma is building.

this is kinda of a perspective more on storytelling like "yeah we gave you an explanation as to why there is this pattern, and we will keep using it for storytelling purposes" if you get what i mean
this is just me yapping here so i dunno if im onto something

[dire ledge]

No I think you have a point that ||Kumazaki uses these motifs because they are Kirby's motifs as a series especially for its villains, and will continue to use this motif of eyes, corruption, darkness, anti-light, etc||

Whether they're called ||Dark Matter, or Genwel Meteonelfilis, or Void Termina, they function under similar rules||

[vapid pumice]

Hmmm..

[paper spade]

It's why I believe Dark Matter Species is like a sentient concentration of Dark Matter substance (I mean they literally have the same name lol). Like whenever that substance is used, traits of dark matter will appear, ya know?

[dire ledge]

They are a negative idea of ||consumption/eating, negative reverses of copy abilities, and negative reverses of the idea of "being a traveller" that Kirby is depicted as||

[warped yew]

when you're part of the kirby universe you just gotta accept theres a giant eyeball inside you

[neon bison]

y'all please

use the tags

[dire ledge]

these ideas will always come with the Kirby series and that's fine, and we can classify them as they come and go

[paper spade]

I mean it's a very unique way for the Kirby team to reuse assets LOL

[dire ledge]

Not sure if those are even ||the same assets at these points||

ideas are not assets

[warped yew]

ship of thesseus asset reuse

[paper spade]

Well assets, ideas, concepts, etc. you guys know what I mean

[dire ledge]

Yeah, and that's kind of just how it'd be yknow!

[warped yew]

anyway as you could probably tell from the amount of times i mentioned kuma, i really gotta insist that this is his vision of the franchise. its him picking up what the other directors did and crafting his own world with them, always paying tribute but also always writing something new, including rules, stories, new ideas

im very looking foward where will the overarching lore plot go in the next entries

[paper spade]

I think Kamuzaki knows this is a series people really theorizing and ponder about. Like Mario? What is there to theorize really? But with Kirby, the direction is intentionally leaves clues, hints, references knowing we'll connect them, he WANTS use to so id like to believe he'd care enough about this fandom to not just use element recklessly and randomly, and take care building a massive interconnected franchise

[dire ledge]

We're not arguing that he's just using these motifs for no reason (i think that was just one guy)

[paper spade]

so at least IMO, I don't think it makes sense to chalk up a pretty jarring obvious reference as "haha just because", like where is the fun in that anyway?

[dire ledge]

I definitely appreciate the consistent motif and theming of the Kirby series ||not just aesthetically, but also emotionally and wrting-wise||

[paper spade]

Oh I know, im saying just in general

[dire ledge]

fair enough

[warped yew]

i do think star allies gave us a lot to work with when it comes to the rules of his universe, and i see few people picking up on that. but thats just my interpretation of what he intended to do with void's lore

[vapid pawn]

||Two related invaders were born in a distant corner of the galaxy, Fecto Elfilis and Genwel Meteonelfilis. They are known as an Invasive Species that absorb other lifeforms to attain their Perfect forms. They roam through space as evil meteors and land on planets to invade them. Fecto Elfilis landed on an Earthlike planet and threatened the native wildlife, but was captured by Lab Discovera's research team before it could complete its invasion, where its spatial teleportation was researched on. Their brother, Meteonelfilis, tried to follow them after their failure, but the children of the stars--the Starries--had traveled through time and discovered the evil meteor, sealing it away. They seem to have sealed Fecto Elfilis away at some point, too. Though there's no traces of any Starry in the planet.

Fecto Elfilis, identified as ID-F86, was studied by Lab Discovera's research team for its spatial teleportation, which led to pioneering the planet's spatial technology. However, 30 years after their initial landing, a warp incident occurs where their small, compassionate side separates from their main self, this specimen, ID-F87, or "Fecto Elfilin" has amnesia and went missing. ID-F86's remaining half became known as Fecto Forgo, who became a tourist attraction. Eventually, most of the people of the planet used the spatial teleportation to leave the planet through a ship due to overpopulation, abandoning Fecto Forgo.||

deep backstory or smth idk i didnt make it

[frank zenith]

ever since rtdl, there's been constant emphasis on and expansion of the kirby lore

stuff like the ancients and dark matter

[warped yew]

anyways fun fact while researching for that post i just. realized that the "void the ancients saw shining in another dimension" might be like. the void from the another dimension road in rtdl dx true arena. i dont fucking know whats up with that one honestly

[dire ledge]

oh right

[warped yew]

chat are you heart matter soul matter dark matter or dream matter tag yourself

[frank zenith]

maybe there's ||a lot of different voids||

[coral falcon]

||I'm a dream matter 🌟 ||

[dire ledge]

So like

[vapid pawn]

Nah, it's supposed to be SMEX Void imo because its theme is Twinkling Star, and the pause desc. you're referring to is its Core form.

[dire ledge]

What teh fuck does ||Bottom of Another Dimension|| even fucking mean

[dusty hedge]

I’m woke matter 😔

[sweet isle]

||https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ZtZ37zkULBY||

||FRAUD FIGHT FRAUD FIGHT||

[dire ledge]

and why does it ||look like Void in that one specific boss battle||

[coral falcon]

||Hell ||

[warped yew]

idfk man i guess its like. the floor

[dire ledge]

and does that mean the other time the battlefield was seen without the ||Void-like orb, was it also a void?||

[warped yew]

yeah good point that makes sense

[dusty hedge]

I think it’s the arena where we fought magolor

[coral falcon]

NATALIE 😭

[scenic needle]

speaking of magolor

who was his contact

[dusty hedge]

AUTOVORRECT SHSHDUDHD

[vapid pawn]

||Ngl looking back at it, I know it's not the same but the normal version kinda reminds me of how Chaos Elfilis's orb looks lol, not the same at all tho||

[warped yew]

ok honestly i might just call bullshit on the bottom of another dimension void cuz like. its in the true arena but theres already another thing there in main story so like what

[dire ledge]

thanks (sarcastic)

[scenic needle]

who from halcandra fought kirby before the events of the game

[paper spade]

I'm guessing Void is just the perfect complete essence of the 4 Matters combined so when they are gathered you get something Void esque

[scenic needle]

and who TOLD magolor about kirby

[dire ledge]

yeah its so weird and wait

oh my god

[dusty hedge]

??? Sorry

[frank zenith]

it could literally be ||a void, the bottom of the universe||

[sweet isle]

marx obviously

[dire ledge]

BARO REMEMEBR THE POST ULTRBY SENT US OF THE ||DECISIVE BATTLEFIELD ARTWORK||

[scenic needle]

did we ever get an answer to who contacted magolor

[sweet isle]

/j

[vapid pawn]

yes

[dire ledge]

||BOTH OF THOSE DECISIVE BATTLE FIELD ARTWORKS FEATURE ORB||

[sweet isle]

it's been theorized it was marx who told magolor about kirby, not confirmed but would be funny if so

[scenic needle]

he's a candidate for the contact but NOT who fought kirby before due to not being halcandran (you can get the dialogue on either planet but you're intended to get it on halcandra)

[sweet isle]

[dire ledge]

||Dude. what if the final one they put in TKCDX is suppsoed to be an important orb||

Dude like

[scenic needle]

i have two candidates for the contact: Marx, and Ribbon

[sweet isle]

nah ribbon wouldnt be this evil

[leaden granite]

magoland mago told him

[scenic needle]

unwitting instigator of doom situation

[paper spade]

Why would Ribbon be in contact with Magalor?

[sweet isle]

makes no sense

[scenic needle]

magolor traveled the galaxy

[dire ledge]

||https://vxtwitter.com/Kirby_JP/status/1456516723234926596 ||

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[vapid pawn]

trutru

[scenic needle]

could have went to ripple star and talked to fairies there

[sweet isle]

dont put ribbon in that situation she deserves better

[dire ledge]

||Those two battlefields were drawn to represent something||

||But in the end they chose the Bottom of Another Dimension Orb||

why?

[scenic needle]

it's the more crack theory between her and marx

[dire ledge]

What does it mean

BARO WHAT DOES IT MEAN

[leaden granite]

shinya kumazaki stop putting lore in a code redeem graphic 😭

[vapid pawn]

the funny lmao

||I don't think the person actually is from Halcandra but it's either Daroach or Marx imo||

[vapid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-idk-dexter-innocent-gif-10412116

[sweet isle]

marx is the better candidate, bitch had beef with kirby anyway

[paper spade]

I mean it likely is Marx

[dire ledge]

there is a non-zero fucking chance that the ||orb in the bottom of another dimension is another important fucking orb in the series||

[scenic needle]

ok so the person who fought kirby was not halcandran after all and that was an english version mistranslation

[paper spade]

They are showing together multiple times

[dire ledge]

why is it likely to be Marx marx like dies

like thats an important thing that happened

[scenic needle]

but he came back

[vapid pawn]

||Marx Soul and Star Alllies moment lol||

[mossy gust]

SCW figure ||considering that whole Spaceship NEW WORLD figure referencing the Lor, while also looking like part of it, it got me remembering older theories...||

[scenic needle]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-marx-kirby-iomor-marx-gif-16431480049744587579

[dire ledge]

never really understood why people said marx

[paper spade]

Isn't there a rock ability statue with specifically Mag and Marx plus a Kirby Twitter post artwork of them?

[vapid pawn]

Because they get paired together all the time

[scenic needle]

not sure if ||Marx soul is canon or not|| but star allies shows he lives to that point

[dire ledge]

yeah because theyre both traitors

😭

[vapid pumice]

||When Chaos Elfilis is defeated in the ultimate cup z EX, I like the new remixed “Finding the light” soundtrack||

[scenic needle]

ok so marx likely was the contact after all

[dire ledge]

not because theyre friends

[vapid pawn]

||any KSSU modes being non canon would be dumb||

[dire ledge]

its like how theyres a stone statue of Magic Paintbrush Triple Star and Star Rod

theyre not related theyre just the magic sticks of the series

[tender kernel]

||texture rq||

[scenic needle]

||i mean wham bam jewel exists but does H2H happen||

[paper spade]

Id argue why would you have a statue of traitors? It makes more sense they're a statue of friends like the other statues duo and trio ones

[mossy gust]

oh, thanks

[tender kernel]

I mean it's bit of both

[dire ledge]

dude there's a statue of Gryll and Brobo

in KSA

[scenic needle]

hey look it's the ||Un-Dark Star Bowser's Inside Story||

[empty osprey]

AND HERE WE ARE 100% BEFORE ITS EVEN OUT IN MY REGION!!!

[vapid pawn]

||yeah why wouldn't it lol||

[paper spade]

Aren't these all implied to be made by the ancients and all used to defeat evil?

[tender kernel]

but we don't know lot of specifics yeah

[dire ledge]

like i dont know how to tell you this but sometimes they just make funny statues like this is genuinely supposed to be easter eggs like there was a Mario statue at some point please dont make me explain Stone Statue Easter Eggs

[scenic needle]

||also doesnt marx die for real as marx soul yet is perfectly fine in allies||

[vapid pawn]

||the statue is called Legendary Items, so it's implied yea||

[dire ledge]

I will absolutely be fine explaining Oh why does ||this thing look like Dark Matter||

but Stone Statues is a bit egregious

and unneeded

[paper spade]

Who tf is Brobo

[vapid pawn]

||vro probably just got revived again lol||

[dire ledge]

Exactly

[tender kernel]

there's also interview thing and skits thing and JP Twitter stuff-

[vapid pawn]

||Plus the only other ancient items Magolor mentions is the Star Rod and Galactic Nova, which ties to Milky Way Wishes where both are relevant||

[scenic needle]

maybe??
idk
||either way he is alive so it doesnt matter THAT much||
||i now finally believe marx involvement in rtdl||

[coral falcon]

||I mean Marx knows things about creations we now know are from the ancients, it's not really a stretch to say he and Mago were friends since not a lot of characters up to the point you meet Magolor are really in the know of that||

[scenic needle]

because i saw the jp translation that said that the person who fought kirby ISNT from halcandra

[dire ledge]

no still dont see it as marx because marx DIED

[vapid pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/marx-kirby-kirby-star-allies-gif-1062823244669585529

[tender kernel]

||'death' is vague in this series, we don't know shit||

[coral falcon]

True Arena provides a perfectly fine explanation for him being revived

[paper spade]

Official art of Mag and Marx technically together

[coral falcon]

or he just never died yeah lol

[tender kernel]

||also Dream Friends exist and Marx Soul could be parallel (but also maybe he didn't die from that, we don't know)||

[dire ledge]

look man if you want me to think its marx give marx some lore

[pulsar nexus]

MAGOLOR MENTIONED

[dire ledge]

hi yukkuri

do you have the ||secret song|| yet

[tender kernel]

not yet

need to finish Treasure Roads lol

[coral falcon]

Not even technically, they are portrayed as prankster friends here so hard

[dire ledge]

is this a new save file 😭

[pulsar nexus]

||currently doing main story lol because it requires to 100% FL to get SCW to 100%||

[vapid pawn]

The only other person I can see Magolor refer to is Daroach due to both being thieves looking for great power and getting possessed by what they were seeking, but they don't really get paired up at all so.

[tender kernel]

incomplete save started 2 days ago yeah

[dire ledge]

as far as we know Magolor could have been talking to unknown new OC that would get revealed in 2032

[vapid pawn]

and iirc, Mass Attack says that Daroach isn't from Popstar right

[paper spade]

Would be a tragedy if true

[coral falcon]

Sure but ngl that would be kind of dumb. Like why would they add that tid bit/Easter egg just for it to be someone we've never met

[dire ledge]

like. i have no reason to think its Marx and if its Marx cool, but that requires them actually giving marx some lore even if its just implications

[tender kernel]

I mean they roam the universe anyway

[dire ledge]

and well marx isnt getting any any time soon unless he gets put into Air Riders or something

[paper spade]

||Marx should of showed up as the final boss of UCZEX tbh 😔😔 ||

Also nothing says Marx Soul isn't canon, like there isn't anything contradicting it is there?

[dire ledge]

idk

i just know marx gets blasted into Nova so hard that he appears a corpse regardless of him turning into Marx Soul

[coral falcon]

It's actually pretty consistent with all the other info shown in KSSU so

[paper spade]

Marx just petty like that

[coral falcon]

could be a parallel but tbh imo you're meant to think that it all happened in one world

[digital trench]

so um, can i share a discovery of something from 10 years ago?

well from toiday but was posted 10 years ago

[dire ledge]

that thing is dead

like.

dude he's not even purple

he's like so Dead Corpse

whather he absorbs Nova's pwoers or not this is his after math

[paper spade]

Ever heard of a ZOMBIE

[coral falcon]

?

[digital trench]

found on a random furry website but doesn't this design look familiar? 10 years ago too note the user's icon and text,,
Is time travel fucking real

What the actual fuck

[dusty hedge]

What

[digital trench]

either time travel or they are a fucking prophet

[dusty hedge]

I am having trouble believing this 😭

[elder ice]

||Writing a Neichel is stuck inside of the lor fic||

[tender kernel]

||again we have no idea how death works, Dark Matter (the character) fucking exploded and came back only 2 games later (and Clash figure hinting at return even still), Sectonia has been implied to be able to come back they just think it's too early to make her a 'friend', we have no idea how afterlife places work at all despite like a bunch being mentioned-||

[digital trench]

I'm not fucking kidding

I may have found more fucking fuel for the iceberg,

[dusty hedge]

Tbh. I think the safe conclusion to come to is a character is alive if Kumazaki needs them alive

[digital trench]

fecto elfilis was someones oc turned-kirby character

[coral falcon]

Nah this gotta faked somehow cuz what?

[tender kernel]

||this is ignoring the obvious stuff of space-time shenanigans and 'everything is parallels' btw (which they keep pushing more and more as games go on, even with SCW)||

[coral falcon]

even down to the similar names?

I'd be skeptical at least

[digital trench]

the user joined in 2014 on this furry site,

[elder ice]

Magolor fic, nothing much

[digital trench]

i have no clue

[elder ice]

What do you think

[vagrant fossil]

Time travel

[coral falcon]

Making it morbid was not what I expecting

It was a fun read

[tidal zinc]

ASTRO BOT MENTIONED

[elder ice]

Morbid as in what

[vagrant fossil]

Great read! Tho this made me wonder how body and soul work in kirby universe. Can they be seperate? Usually we destroy the body along with the soul, right?

[coral falcon]

The body in the Lor

[digital trench]

does anyone know any kirby iceberg/lore servers? because of my elfilis discovery

the rabbithole i discovered goes deeper

[elder ice]

||Her body and soul are intact||

[warped yew]

Can you provide a link to that artwork?

I know the website but I don't really have an account

[digital trench]

also on their journal, uh what the heck, did a furry work on KIRBY!? based

[warped yew]

this is very strange

definitely not for this channel but still very amusing

[digital trench]

yeah

thats why i asked for kirby iceberg/lore discord server

so we could add this to a icebrg

[coral falcon]

This is definitely strange, quite the mystery

[coral falcon]

I don't know of any such server but there are other main channels that you'd be able to get more discussion on this

[pulsar nexus]

[warped yew]

Congrats!!!

[coral falcon]

You did it!!

[neon bison]

hey all, please don't post furaffinity links here

[warped yew]

||song time song time song time song time oh my god let's goooo||

[austere wharf]

congrats‼️

[neon bison]

also that conversation is not meant for this thread anyways

[pulsar nexus]

||I listened to the unreleased song and my brain exploded. I don’t think I can survive anything for a while||

[tender kernel]

||hope you can get video to upload lol||

||mahoroba usage is crazy||

[empty osprey]

100% s2 gang!

[elder ice]

Do you remember the time i posted neichel being a lesbian and having a wife

It’s smth random

But with recent lore

Oh god it just became sad

[coral falcon]

HUH

[south folio]

THIS BASTARD GOT THEIR FUCKING OC IN!!! WHAT

also ||has anyone found the hal room for the SCW stages? if so where can i find it too i still need to get the rest of the figures and i need to g r i n d||

[torpid locust]

Yay!

[neon bison]

check pins

[south folio]

ty ty

[scenic needle]

everything except the first 4 areas of MKU

[tender kernel]

those have continuity and no contradictions too, so idk what you mean there (funny Dyna Blade moment)

[elder ice]

Meta knight shot down dyna blade

[tender kernel]

not related

talking about her chicks

they have their older appearance and not the young one

[scenic needle]

meta knight attacking his own ship for no reason and it never being brought up again

so what
it got sealed
meta knight unsealed it just so he could destroy it and then it got sealed AGAIN

[elder ice]

Meta knightmare was just meta knight being rlly bored

He asked the crew if he could destroy the halberd just because hes bored

[austere wharf]

that's just normal meta knight

[tender kernel]

it's literally just him training to discipline himself, and weird decisions doesn't contradict stuff

remember HiAD exists

[elder ice]

Ok uhh i need more feedback and thought on my fanfic

[tender kernel]

anyway god ||HAL Room theme is still getting to me, this is definitely my favorite in the series||

[torpid locust]

Mfw MKM is the only evidence that the Meta-Knights aren’t dead

[elder ice]

Were long overdue for captain vuls return

[scenic needle]

yes but it contradicts the secret sea

when would the timeframe for the MKU part 4 sequence even be

[tender kernel]

no it does not

[scenic needle]

yes it does because like

how is it there for MK to shoot down and in the secret sea

[tender kernel]

literally crashed in the same sea

[scenic needle]

not what i mean

but also either it didn't seal away the ship the first time or the second time

and whichever case WHY

remember the ship crashed there and was literally sealed off and prevented from flying by a forcefield until you break it to get into the area

[tender kernel]

||I really want to try to sing to this somehow, Green Tree Memories and 3 FL lyrical themes makes for such a good medley||

[torpid locust]

you sing?

[tender kernel]

...what you think I don't have a voice LOL

[paper spade]

|| Okay so UCZEX special fig is called "Invaders of a Distant Star". These creatures were an invasive species born in a faraway galaxy when Elfilis earlier invasion ended in failure their eldest brother Mefilis rose to the take on the challenge that Elfilis couldn't. By merging with the Starries they achieved a terrifying “perfect form” (whoever joked about them being like Cell was right lol but this does mean they have a normal, weaker form) but basically due to Kirby being Kirby the terror of these invaders has finally come to an end

So yeah 長兄 (choukei), this means eldest brother so even in Japanese description, Melfilis is confirmed male. 同族の (douzoko no) means of the same kind, family, race, kin, etc. the text is saying they are of the exact same species / race of invasion beings. 侵略種 is the literal word for invasive species

新たな完全体 (aratanakanzentai) which literally means "new perfect body" but 完全体 specifically is like "evolved" or "ultimate state" so yes, literally Cell from dragon ball LOL and for those talking about Freeza / Cooler dynamic... it says 果敢に挑み (kakan ni idomi) which more or less means like "boldly took up a / the challenge" implying the already knew it was risky to do so and took a more leadership role. Like when you fuck up and your manager has to fix the problem

It's already implied through other figs that yeah this is a whole ass race of horrific creatures but specifically they call Melfilis "eldest brother", really implying that there are more than two siblings because they could have easily said older brother, sibling or like leader or something so uh yeah guys maybe we get to see another sibling sometime?? ||

[torpid locust]

Not what I meant, I just didn't know you sing

[torpid locust]

|| can't wait for the elfilis family tree!||

[coral falcon]

Oh yeah ||family of pure evil and destruction||

[paper spade]

|| Papa and Mama Elfilis when?? ||

[torpid locust]

|| also, this means fecto elfilis was the stronger one||

right?

[coral falcon]

||I mean it kind of reads as Melfilis is a greater authority and is more powerful after absorbing the Starries||

[elder ice]

||Air riders:
kirby: wow i cant wait to race on this floating island!
Elfilis and Genwell’s uncle:||

[paper spade]

|| Yeah basically but Elfilis IS the one who became Lord of Chaos or whatever it was so eventually they come out on top ||

[coral falcon]

||Younger brother surpassing the older one, classic trope||

[paper spade]

|| yeah, maybe the Starries was holding back Mel true power, who knows ||

[austere wharf]

||i hope we see more funny elfilis esc fellows
they're both gorgeous <333||

[sweet isle]

meta knightmare ultra in SSU is not exactly canon specifically bcuz of all those contradictions. It was made back when kirby lore wasnt rly well defined so dont think about it too hard

[tender kernel]

no? there are none

people just go 'MK did something stupid' and say 'noncanon'

[paper spade]

Yeah, MKU is just meta Knight training arc, there aren't really any contradictions tbh

[tender kernel]

and continuity with Dyna Blade and MWW again

[sweet isle]

if anything the only "canon" part is him going to search for nova

[tender kernel]

I mean, nothing is canon Kirby-wise anyway

[sweet isle]

why would he shoot down his own ship? seems a lil counterproductive, so i usually dont tend to take that part of the mode too seriously

[paper spade]

Doesn't the description of the mode he "followed in Kirby footsteps" like literally? To a T

[sweet isle]

yes and also no

[tender kernel]

why was Kirby at Divine Terminus randomly during HiAD

[paper spade]

I mean maybe Meta Knight's 💰💰💰 like that and can repair his ship whenever

[tender kernel]

and again, it's for training

that's like, just straight up said lmao

I think it'd be weirder if he didn't test his ship at all

[paper spade]

Like there is nothing stopping any of us from tearing up own car for sport or something

[sweet isle]

wasnt it cuz he got told a portal appeared there?

[tender kernel]

they don't say that (or any reason, really lol)

[pulsar nexus]

||sending the unfinished track japanese version soon||

[tender kernel]

||FINALLY||

[pulsar nexus]

||just need to finish the upload of the hal room first ||

||and I also got the lyrics written down for the unifinshed song||

[sweet isle]

ah well

[wide wind]

a test...

[empty osprey]

||I can’t believe neichel became teto||

[limpid fox]

WTF 😭

thats crazy

[south folio]

theyre also the synth voice of elfilis too what the actual fuck

[limpid fox]

lucky bastard

[austere wharf]

oh my god that's so good

[pulsar nexus]

||Literally banging my head on the wall because the song metions まほろば which is part of name magolor is based on, and several other references and some are in kanji or wording referencing stuff like halcandra||

ANYWAYS ||sending the unfinished song rn||

[dusty hedge]

3 minutes….

[pulsar nexus]

||its like 350+ mb lol||

Discord is on fire for me

||あの宇宙（そら）の星（ほし）に　届（とど）くと信（しん）じ眠（ねむ）る
浮（う）かぶ景色（けしき）は　遥（はる）かなる 夢（ゆめ）ランド

星空（ほしぞら）がにじむ　人（ひと）のない遊園地（ゆうえんち）
チケット風（かぜ）舞（ま）う　嘘（うそ）の国（くに） 夢（ゆめ）の跡（あと）
異次元（いじげん）ゲートを　彷徨（さまよ）うの
歪（ゆが）む視界（しかい）　未踏（みとう）のセカイ
これが　夢見（ゆめみ）たミライ？
空間転移（くうかんてんい）で　君（きみ）のもと
時空（じくう）も次元（じげん）も　超（こ）え行（ゆ）きたい
窓（まど）をなぞって　星（ほし）と星（ほし） 結（むす）ぶ
嗚呼（ああ）

隣町（となりまち）へ　すぐ 行（い）くように
君（きみ）のもと　かけ出（だ）した
美味（おい）しいケーキ　焼（や）いて待（ま）ってて
冷（さ）めないように
隣町（となりまち）へ　綺羅星（きらぼし） 乗（の）って
君（きみ）のもと　飛（と）び込（こ）んだ
甘（あま）い果実（かじつ）の　パイもあるかな
Sweet Memory

あの星（ほし）遠（とお）く　もう戻（もど）れない日々（ひび）よ
まぶたに泉（いずみ）　揺（ゆ）らめくは まほろばよ
異次元（いじげん）ゲートじゃ　叶（かな）わない
AI 次第　心（こころ）もキカイ
これが　本当（ほんとう）のネガイ？
空間転移（くうかんてんい）を　繰（く）り返（かえ）し
時空（じくう）も次元（じげん）も　超（こ）えてしまい
窓（まど）に息（いき）をはく　観覧車（かんらんしゃ）は回（まわ）る
嗚呼（ああ）

隣町（となりまち）へ　すぐ 行（い）くように
君（きみ）のもと　かけ出（だ）した
白（しろ）い翼（つばさ）は　まだないけれど
いつか叶（かな）う
隣町（となりまち）を　綺羅星（きらぼし） 乗って
君（きみ）と今（いま）　飛（と）び出（だ）した
赤（あか）い果実（かじつ）の　パイを最後（さいご）に
Sweet Memory
Dreamy Memory||

[sweet isle]

[coral falcon]

It's finally here...

[coral falcon]

AI after all hahaha

[tender kernel]

||wonder if it's double meaning or not||

[pulsar nexus]

||ZEX final final boss break area music||

@tender kernel

[tender kernel]

nice

||now everyone can clearly hear the Lor noise||

[coral falcon]

well that's terrifying :D

[coral falcon]

||I know we've already heard it but every time it's still like damn||

[coral falcon]

||Paradise 👀||

[torpid locust]

😭 oh my god

[vapid pawn]

LOL

[coral falcon]

LMFAO

[pulsar nexus]

||also for no one’s asking, I’m getting video of no Elfilin ver||

[torpid locust]

|| they outdid prescient strirring in terms of creep factor||

[coral falcon]

||Heart Pounding Incitement of Eternal AHHHHHHHHHH||

[pulsar nexus]

||its depressing, lowkey||

[coral falcon]

||It gets more sad??||

[tender kernel]

||like that is legit the same noise right||

[coral falcon]

||100% is||

[mental osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dracula-rap-fast-gif-21998837

[coral falcon]

||https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxjP3Rrx5IxxMO5d6ZocE8JpNSPvymKvzh?si=hjIJKE_j7Hi26Vv2||

[pulsar nexus]

||Opening without Elfilin||

[coral falcon]

||He's not smiling anymore D:||

[rancid badge]

||MY POOR CHILD||

[torpid locust]

|| how do you even trigger this cutscene||

[tender kernel]

||start SCW with file in World 5 or 6 (aka after Elfilin kidnapping)||

[eager prawn]

||this is actually genuinely kind of disconcerting man...||

[pulsar nexus]

||it only works if elfilin is missing, so once its not, you cant see it anymore||

[tender kernel]

||can only do it with transfered files obviously||

[rancid badge]

||kirby without elfilin makes me cry 😭||

[pulsar nexus]

||I had a file with only getting up to elfilin getting kidnapped so||

[torpid locust]

[pulsar nexus]

honestly it was worth it

||I can fall asleep while watching kirby stuck underground pre-final boss||

[elder ice]

||So is neichel either the lor’s ai, or is the ai a replica of neichel’s personality||

||I think the song is written by the lor ai realizing she isn’t real||

[glass citrus]

man i wanna see someone beat whole ucz ex with no copy/base sword only...

[round gate]

What do I do in Lost in Alivel Mall

How do I get past the ice cream door

[elder ice]

||Like the beeps and the lines relating to hearts becoming machines||

||it’s meant to be the ai of the lor, not neichel, singing the song||

[eager prawn]

||genuinely that's one of the most interesting bits of lore to come from the DLC imo... i love the picture of the series' lore that is forming, even with just these small details||

[elder ice]

||If neichel is still alive, where is she?||

[eager prawn]

||wait where is that implied?||

[elder ice]

Not sure

[eager prawn]

hrmm

[elder ice]

Just a question

I wonder

If both ||elfilis siblings|| are now part of elfilin

Do you think elfilin hears the argue

[eager prawn]

||can you imagine the sort of arguments they'd be having||

||poor elfilin||

free my boy

[elder ice]

||Elfilin goes on with his day whilst meteoelfilis and elfilis have an argument about the quality of kirby cafe food||

||Also since bonkers and wild edge’s crystal forms use he/him pronouns, I hc that meteoelfilis is transphobic||

[eager prawn]

||would they both cuss out kirby at just any given time. "god i hate that pink THING"||

[summer mauve]

||So does this refer to Meteonefilis, or Galacta Knight||

[eager prawn]

||im taking this one for GK im sorry||

[eager prawn]

||JPN translation also seems to imply GK too||

[elder ice]

Ok they are setting up galacta for the next game

Like there is no way

[summer mauve]

||Galacta Knight is galaxy level confirm||

[eager prawn]

i have some thoughts about ||what void is to elfilis/kirby/elfilin/GK||

[elder ice]

Oh and morpho using void’s theme in ||the ultimate cup ex||

[eager prawn]

||you're telling me. We have a whole plot about a member of someone's species being crystallised for excess violence/being generally evil. Then they also tell us the mechanism by which they were sealed is the SAME ONE for GK?||

[elder ice]

No and Leongar’s themes

||LIKE WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO DO WITH MAGOLOR||

[eager prawn]

it's so

it's all so

WHAT ARE THEY COOKING??

[mossy gust]

||Everything has to do with Magolor ||

[eager prawn]

can someone draw magolor in front of the ||lor starcutter prototype with like "magolor sweep" caption||

that stupid cat keeps winning

[elder ice]

||Even if he’s not in the game magolor still managed to be important||

[scenic needle]

||if we count chaos then yes, otherwise Meteon is stronger||

[eager prawn]

man and all my planning for ||gk too... maybe I will just have to make another copium theory board for the next game||

[scenic needle]

also ||Solid Elfilis vs Liquid Elfilis||

[elder ice]

I wonder where the next kirby game will be

[eager prawn]

surely on popstar

[coral falcon]

||HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS 😭||

[eager prawn]

||the final figurine kind of reads like a goodbye from elfilin||

[elder ice]

Tbh if elfilin is in air riders what will his special be

[eager prawn]

giant spear sweep which wipes out the whole map instantly

[paper spade]

|| This one is interesting but also tricky to both read and explain so the names of these two spears are "Antares" and ‘"Ares". Twin Spears created through energy absorbed in pursuit of a perfect form. Elfilis, the Star invader, becoming chaos rose to the sky grasping the Crystal Spear left behind by his brother Melfilis and imbued with the power of the Starries, this pair became the ultimate Divine spears

完全体になるべく取りこんだ精により、異なる武器を生み出す双の槍は...

So from what I understand 完全体になるべく(Kanzentai ni naru beku) basically means for the purpose or aim becoming a perfect form. 取りこんだ精により (Torikonda sei ni yori) is “by means of the essence they absorbed”. 異なる武器を生み出す(kotonaru buki o umidasu) is “gave rise to different weapons”. I'm pretty sure it's saying that their goal is to achieve this perfect form but the spears are a byproduct of the result, so the spears aren't pre-existing weapons nor are they required to achieve said form but manifest when one reaches a perfect state. This gives insight on their culture and goals, I guess? They need to invade and absorb to become perfect, so Im wondering are these spears like a sorta Rite of Passage for them?

It does say Mefilis left behind his spear so 残した (nokoshita) aka is just left behind directly. This obvious implies Melfilis is already gone and resealed but these spears don't disappear after they are defeated thus Elfilis somehow obtained the spear by the time of UCZEX. 宿す (yadosu) is important as it means to house, to lodge, to carry within, etc so the spears are vessels imbued with the power that came from the absorbed enegeries so like the Starries from the Melfilis fight. Although I'm unsure if it's also saying Elfilis absorb the starries directly too or is solely gaining their power from Melfilis spear. The text is strongly implying these are like the strongest spears of their species, like god tier spears. Pinnacle of their culture if they have one ||

[elder ice]

Sakurai revealing that elfilin can turn back into elfilis for a funny spin off

[analog sequoia]

||I don't think Meteonelfilis is apart of Elfilin after UCZEX, maybe just a small portion of the power of the starries||

[paper spade]

so there are TWO god tier level spears just lying around and we are just not gonna give them to Bandana Dee???? 😭

[eager prawn]

I feel like he deserves them tbh

technically he also clutches up alongside kirby across the entire game

[analog sequoia]

Idk why don't we let him manifest his own perfect life form spear

[elder ice]

Does anyone in this server know tokai

[eager prawn]

i wonder what that would look like....

[elder ice]

I think no

[paper spade]

Goddle Dee when?

[analog sequoia]

||I do find it quite sad to see that Elfilis and Meteonelfilis never got to truly reunite with each other||

[eager prawn]

||especially elfilin's dialogue at the end of the final boss... very bittersweet||

[paper spade]

|| A duo fight with both at the same time would go crazy ||

[analog sequoia]

||Elfilin and Meteonelfilis team up when?!?||

[elder ice]

Kirby fighters 3

[paper spade]

|| imagine them doing sick combo moves together yooo that be so hype ||

|| Honestly waiting for the next Star Ally DLC with Elfilis as a playable character ||

[pulsar nexus]

||the moment when I screamed over rtdldx music being used against leongar more than the actual final boss||

[leaden granite]

||fighters 3 secret final boss trust||

[analog sequoia]

||ngl I'm waiting for both Elfilis and Meteonelfilis||

[pulsar nexus]

||ITS SO TRIPPY LISTENING TO ONWARD TO HGRFN PAIN MY HEART KNOWS WELL AND JUDNGNMENT OF MALUS PALMMAMFNNFNA IN FL BUT ITS WORTH IT PLEASE HAL RELEASE THE COMPLETE SOUNDTRACK OF BOTH RTDLDX AND SCW||

[paper spade]

|| Next Kirby game Final boss is 1000% gonna be Bandana Dee with angelic angel wings, dual wielding both spears and probably idk have a dark matter eye ||

[eager prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[summer mauve]

||Elfilis really did not want to be upstaged by their brother so they decided to run it back one last time||

[paper spade]

|| oh what the fuck, based on this, the ones saying Lor = Niechel might be kinda right ||

[pulsar nexus]

Self pin but

It’s important I think

[wide wind]

time to call it a night

[coral falcon]

||The AMVs of this song are going to be so cracked||

[frigid sinew]

||so true
the electro swing sections are so good like holy shit ||

[spiral stump]

I admit i couldnt wait until i got SCW so i began spoiling myself

I'm losing my freaking mind bro

[empty osprey]

Where does this play?

||it’s a remix of dream buffet main theme||

[pulsar nexus]

||I was thinking the same thing lol||

[empty osprey]

||I checked the obvious spot and thankfully there wasn’t new content there||

[pulsar nexus]

LOL

nahhhhh hive mind

[empty osprey]

Also ||the Kirby only intro has a different song||

Wait found it

[pulsar nexus]

||Yee it’s interesting. Glad I have a no Elfilin file||

[crude copper]

||i saw people say that this dlc has no lore because galacta knight didn't show up and this is like the craziest amount of delusion from a kirby fan i ever seen ngl||

[empty osprey]

||it’s just a alt song for tilt n roll extra hard||

[spiral stump]

||i'm sorry but the DLC didnt need him to be peak||
||We have the freaking Roaring Knight||

[pulsar nexus]

||Bro that’s actually wild. They should see me. Legit, look what the game did to me. I’m close to going to hospital. I’m gonna EXPLODE||

[spiral stump]

GOD ARE YOU OK

[empty osprey]

||can you explain the joke I’m out of the loop||

[spiral stump]

YUKKURI ARE YOU SLASH J OR SKASH SERIOUS

[pulsar nexus]

IM SERIOUS

[wide wind]

||bruh do these people have eyes. new world past lore. neichel lore. elfilis lore.||

[empty osprey]

||galacta knight is a lame overused fraud there I said it||

[sudden arrow]

Take a shot everytime yuki goes to the hospital cuz of a kirby game (many got drunk already)

[spiral stump]

||idk i saw people saying the final boss is quite Mr. Rory Nite||

[crude copper]

I sympathize with Galacta Knight truthers but if you literally think about everything for a more than a second, he literally doesn't belong in this game. He has no narrative connection to anything so it'd just be mindless fanservice for fanservice sake

[wide wind]

||i think galacta being here would have made it worse||

[spiral stump]

Truth nuke

[empty osprey]

||I’m so glad he isn’t here||

[spiral stump]

It hurts but it's the truth

[wide wind]

I'm genuinely worried about you

[spiral stump]

I'm gonna be real i was genuinely expecting him😭

[empty osprey]

||And not just because he is my least favourite knight||

[spiral stump]

But even without him this dlc is making me crazy

[empty osprey]

||WE DONT NEED 4 DIFFERENT KNIGHTS IN ONE GAME||

[pulsar nexus]

I think I’m just not okay when something like this comes up

[sudden arrow]

||Same||
||i saw so many people being like "if gala isnt there i will draw divorce"||
||Boy, i do have some news for you!||

[spiral stump]

||The final boss......||

[empty osprey]

Same

[spiral stump]

||I NEED TO FIGHT IT OMG||

[pulsar nexus]

also, cough spoiler tag

[spiral stump]

Mb

[sudden arrow]

Yuki you dont NEED to go to the hospital to show ur excitement 😭

[wide wind]

||magolor shows up and is referenced so many times. if this happens every time you see him...||

[empty osprey]

Sorry!

[empty osprey]

Literally frame one reaction time

[pulsar nexus]

||no joke this happens every single time||

[paper spade]

|| Okay so the billboard figures. The English one says something about the songstress choosing to stay on the planet but the Japanese billboards doesn't say that at all lol, no mention of her staying behind so that's a weird localization thing ||

[wide wind]

||bc of the dlc i finally get the neichel hype. she seems really cool||

[glass citrus]

i really surprised hal actually bothered put fair amounts of stuffs on SCW when it's just small side dish for already solid base game

[sudden arrow]

i should draw the ||flying chinchilla siblings||
||i love how genwel and elfi have way different personalities in JUST their attacks||

[wide wind]

||the lore discourse environment in kirby kingdom is about to get crazy||

[spiral stump]

||THEY REALLY COOKED SO HARD FOR A SMALL DLC OMG||

[austere wharf]

||me but with the new world inhabitants
love neichel even more now||

[pulsar nexus]

||they actually do mention it!||

[sudden arrow]

as for that i need to fix the romaji lyrics i made for aiding my own suffering trying to cover the theme song

[sudden arrow]

||Lor is neichel will become the new Void is Kirby 😭🎉||

[paper spade]

Where at, am I blind

[spiral stump]

Wrong reply

[spiral stump]

||not me thinking Genwel was prohibited stuff but forgotting i'm in the channel he probably was leaked on like a week ago||

[wide wind]

||hey at least there's something sorta tangible there||

||probably||

[pulsar nexus]

||そう、何かを予言した歌姫もまたその一人だった||

[scenic needle]

||tbh it's super unlikely Elfilis cared and it's 50/50 on if Meteon cared||
||Meteon could be read as "You killed my sibling Fecto-Elfilis! I'm going to GENOCIDE you!" with the same validity as the DBZ Cooler interpretation||

[spiral stump]

||Lor Starcutter lore was NOT on my freaking bingo card||

[sudden arrow]

||i mean sorta but there is still chances it could evolve into the second sorta theory about these things||

[scenic needle]

||only if it gets proven false in an interview or jp translations like void is kirby or robot susie did||

if it gets ||proven true then it doesn't count||

[spiral stump]

||Hi! Meet my secret brother, he's called Jewel Meteoryte!||

[sudden arrow]

||Neichel being the one handling Magolor's fake ass... even if it turns out to be fake its still comedy gold||

[crude copper]

||well there is a lot more evidence for this so id say people should go for it||

[tawdry canopy]

I prefer ||the idea that Meteon had deemed Elfilis a weakling and a failure.||

[crude copper]

||like with void is kirby there was just a bunch of assumptions based on poor story presentation in-game but lor = neichel thing actually has some neat parallels and evidence to back it up||

[spiral stump]

||Evil Big Brother relationship||

[past cobalt]

||I am the genwel that they call meteonelfilis||

[austere wharf]

||😭 lol poor elfilis||

[crude copper]

||i mean thats basically what happened isnt it||

[pulsar nexus]

||"On the day of departure, the individual chose to stay on this planet as their destiny. The diva who predicted was one of them"||

[crude copper]

||genwel hated elfilis because elfilis was woke and used pronouns. he, like a true member of elfilis clan, was unwoke and used he/him||

this distinction is still so funny to me

[scenic needle]

||the issue is that there is one figurine that instantly puts it back to debate, which is why the jp song and jp good sign are so important to me on this||

[past cobalt]

Also i was right

[spiral stump]

||where was the distintion i couldnt find it😭 ||

[scenic needle]

like ||why would i believe that when something else states she probably never went there to begin with||

[austere wharf]

||elfilis is the woker. The Heartbreaking 💔||

[crude copper]

||its in a couple of figurines, its the most obvious in one that talks about their weapons||

[spiral stump]

||ohhh||

||idk why but i genuinely tweaked out seeing Genwel's spear is called Ares||

[spiral stump]

||What 300+ hours of non stop Xenoblade X brainrot does to a mf||

[crude copper]

ngl i am still shocked by the fact that we are actually getting. answers. yknow. actual explainable connections. and not just more vagueness for vagueness's sake

it really does feel like kumazaki is building up towards something

[austere wharf]

It's Scary.

[pulsar nexus]

||next game will have magolor and elfilin as a main character along with kirby||

[austere wharf]

In a good way <3

[crude copper]

its scary exciting

[spiral stump]

||we gonna meet the youngest brother: Roaring Knigfilis||

[past cobalt]

||Galacta knight soul in the robobot remake||

[tawdry canopy]

||I expect a new game first than another remake||

[crude copper]

||this is inevitability at this point. i hope gooey also shows up. this is how we will have the true gang: kirby, dedede, bandee, meta knight, elfilin, magolor and gooey.||

[coral falcon]

That would be an insane lineup

[past cobalt]

||He does that one space slice attack with starcutter which FOR SOME REASON sings the new world song||

[crude copper]

lowkey just kirby fighters 2 line-up plus elfilin

[pulsar nexus]

||merchline and png picture for the book and other media be like:||

[crude copper]

lmao

[crude copper]

TRUE 😭

[coral falcon]

||and also covers every base for the connections 😭 Main 4 + ancients nerd (magolor) + invasion species member (elfilin) + dark matter member (gooey) all of which have connections alluded to||

[pulsar nexus]

||like the only differences are there is no marx. but he is stuck in the merch hell||

[coral falcon]

I mean gooey and magolor in the same game was still crazy to me even then lol

[past cobalt]

||Daroach for Kirby's flagship phase||

[coral falcon]

We need it

Daroach side character like Mass Attack would be so peak

[tawdry canopy]

||we could have a thief character||

[haughty nexus]

need the next game to have Kirby baby void and elfilin interacting

[pulsar nexus]

||It's actually very nice how the story of elfilis concluded very well. The only thing is the buildup about the people that onced live there before departuring to "their" new world||

[sudden arrow]

Yall give me a caption for this
ill add it in fire text

[haughty nexus]

|| need to draw fecto as sans looking at genwels spear like papyrus’ scarf in those genocide route drawings ||

[crude copper]

skawo started a letsplay of the dlc and lol lol lolllllllllll 😭

if only he knew how right he was

[paper spade]

|| Uh, a bit of a mistranslation of what's happening to who. the literal meaning of this is “Yes the songstress who gave the prophecy was also one of them" その一人だった means "one of them" but it's referring to the previous line. ある詩とこの星に残る道を導いた means a certain prophecy guided the path that remained on this planet. It's talking about the path of guidance being left behind as they left the planet (likely being the song). Its not saying Niechel herself remained, only that she was part of a group of people to help create said path, aka said path that remained. A poetic way of saying the song she wrote was left behind as guidance for others ||

[sudden arrow]

||Elfilis after what happenned to Genwel:||

[haughty nexus]

LITERALLY THIS LOL

[crude copper]

||i kinda love how theres no family affection involved whatsoever. the main game had this sweet ending where elfilin accepted remains of elfilis as a part of himself. meanwhile elfilis and genwel just fucking hate each other lmaooooooo||

like idk even if there was no other big lore this shit is so funny that it justifies dlc's existence on its own

[coral falcon]

Honestly tracks that ||Elfilis is such a hater that even their family can get it||

[muted nymph]

||I think it's just Fecto who hates Genwel||

||Consider the fact Genwel came to the planet only because Fecto was defeated||

[crude copper]

lets call astronomer waddle dee coperdeecus LMAO

[coral falcon]

WAIT YES

[crude copper]

average skawo W

[paper spade]

|| TLDR: In the line ある詩とこの星に残る道を導いた.
残る(nokoru) is grammatically attached to 道 (the path). It is not attached to 歌姫 (the songstress) in the next sentence, the English translation blurred the two lines together ||

[pulsar nexus]

||where does it say ある詩とこの星に残る道を導いた?||

[coral falcon]

||Could just be genwel thought that he had clean up his little bro's mess haha, though the figure provides no info on what genwel felt||

[pulsar nexus]

||cause personally, as a native speaker, I can only think of the diva staying behind from the wording in the billboard figurine description||

[paper spade]

|| 3rd / 4th line of text ||

[sudden arrow]

i think i made a good enough ||neichelor|| image
(I will make a good one when spoilers thingy gets lifted off)

[pulsar nexus]

||ある者はこの星に残る運命を選んだ。そう、何かを予言した歌姫もまたその一人であった||

[empty osprey]

So do you guys think next Kirby will be 2d or 3D?

Genuine question

[scenic needle]

what does the line say

here

[empty osprey]

Because 2d isn’t dead thankfully

[pulsar nexus]

||it actually doesnt say ある詩とこの星に残る道を導いた anywhere||

[coral falcon]

I think the next mainline will be 3D

[empty osprey]

I do hope next game adds a second attack button like battle royale tho

[coral falcon]

I do wonder what the next 2D title will be, I feel like there's gonna be another one within the next few years

[sudden arrow]

combination of both
like what star allies did but with more bosses, iykwim

[muted nymph]

3D considering I think they still want to do one more attempt at nailing the 3D formula right away

[coral falcon]

Yes this so much, FL suffers from limited moveset

[empty osprey]

The abilities movesets was the biggest issue with fl

Morpho sword is an exception tho

[coral falcon]

and the ||crazy boss fights of SCW seem even crazier because of that, like in some cases you just can't do much not because of the boss itself but because the moves suck ass||

[empty osprey]

I actually used its other moves practically in scw

[haughty nexus]

|| this last track sounds like something you’d hear at the ending of every episode of a Kirby and the forgotten land arc with the lyrics and a singer added at the last episode of the arc ||

[pulsar nexus]

||because if this was the case, it would mean "someone is guiding people to stay in this planet with the song"||

[empty osprey]

It feels like sqsq but not in a good way (sqsq is my favourite Kirby game btw)

The abilities in sqsq also have the same issue

[paper spade]

|| youre right 💀, tf was I on, i'm so washed it's like 2am, someone give me one of those big Fs Mr. Crocker hands out to his students ||

[haughty nexus]

They just need to do what they did with morpho sword to every other ability I think

[glass citrus]

I think that's one of favorite parts from FL in unintended way at the same time ironically for me

[paper spade]

|| if my other interpretation were inaccurate, the other figs desc let me know ||

[pulsar nexus]

||evil neichel theory||

[empty osprey]

A second button like br would help more

Battle royale unironically has better movesets

They just need to do that but with fl game feel

[coral falcon]

I agree, of course abilities shouldn't all be as broken as morpho sword but giving them more diverse moves would also just help them add more abilities so that not every single one has to fulfill a specific niche

[empty osprey]

Like my favourite ability doctor was done well in br but if it was done in fl it wouldn’t be the same

[coral falcon]

like there could be some overlap in niches, and moveset differences would be enough to justify having two abilities that can accomplish the same thing

[empty osprey]

Yeah

[glass citrus]

i'm sure hal already awared of that after base FL released out 👏

[pulsar nexus]

||honestly there is like one thing Im sad about scw. no mouthful treasure road||

[empty osprey]

?

[coral falcon]

Also based fav ability, it's in my top 5

[pulsar nexus]

||I LOVE gear mouth so much but Im sad there wasnt any treasure road </3||

[glass citrus]

i meant about moveset prob

[coral falcon]

||That's pretty suprrising, I was expecting there to be treasure roads for the new mouthfuls||

[empty osprey]

||DETACH FOR SPEED IS SO MUCH FUN||

[coral falcon]

||At least 1 for each||

[glass citrus]

maybe someone could make mod for them
...assuming switch 2 is hackable

[empty osprey]

So anyway fl as a game it’s a good first step for 3D Kirby but I hope to god they fix abilities in the next attempt

It’s a solid a tier Kirby game

[muted nymph]

Not really a possibility as of right now

[coral falcon]

They are pretty in touch with fandom so yeah, I wouldn't be surprised

[muted nymph]

Even if the Switch 2 got hacked

[crude copper]

imo 3d because major figureheads of forgotten land werent involved with the dlc

[pulsar nexus]

||honestly scw is a MAJOR upgrade from fl. I had fun playing fl but SCW exceeded it. to a level I put it in the top 3 fav kirby game of all time. number one stays as rtdldx tho||

[coral falcon]

||SCW level design looks so so fun||

[empty osprey]

But for super duper gameplay fans other Kirby games have more to offer with the ability variety and movesets

[craggy trench]

I am even more excited for the future of kirby after SCW

Both gameplay and story wise

[empty osprey]

What are they cooking

[coral falcon]

||Like pretty interesting platforming and puzzle without being too punishing||

[crude copper]

Tatsuya Kamiyama was mentioned by Kumazaki to be a major force for making Forgotten Land happen and itd be weird as hell for him to not work on this DLC unless he's working on something more important right now

[empty osprey]

||HOW THE HELL WAS THE LORS PAUSE SCREEN A HINT FOR SCW||

[crude copper]

current series art-director Riki Furuhmann is also just mentioned in special thanks, DLC has it's own art director

so yeah it all points to HAL working on a big new project which is likely a 3d game

[pulsar nexus]

||IT WAS SO FUN. Literally havent had fun playing the game in long time. while fl and scw doesnt have like, major replayability like ksa or rtdldx has, its still very fun and the environment were so beautiful||

[craggy trench]

||i don't know how involved kumazaki is (or any other HAL Labs members) in terms of Air Riders but maaan i hope that game has some absolutely insane lore||

[empty osprey]

Wouldn’t it be really funny if it came out next year

[crude copper]

i dont think it will straight up come out next year but

an announcement is possible

[empty osprey]

2 years is more likely

[pulsar nexus]

I forgot HAL is hiring graduates soon. oh boy

[austere wharf]

kirby rpg #trust

[pulsar nexus]

I'm scared to apply

[empty osprey]

Btw I really wanna see gooey

[crude copper]

no major releases next year, but an announcement

seems likely to me

thats how 2021 went lol

[pulsar nexus]

def 35th anniversary

[crude copper]

we got FL announced for 2022

[empty osprey]

You can do it!

[coral falcon]

Do it!

[crude copper]

yeah do it

[muted nymph]

Yeah it would make sense if they released the next mainline during the 35th anniversary

[crude copper]

you can do it

[craggy trench]

Yeah, we already got SCW and Air Riders this year, i don't expect anything next year besides maybe an announcement

[empty osprey]

Frame one magolor reaction shows how much you know Kirby

[muted nymph]

We need Ribbon and Adeleline back

[pulsar nexus]

😭

[crude copper]

at least on a videogame front. warpstar inc acquisition is suspicious as hell...

[craggy trench]

VERY suspicious yeah

I am interested to see where nintendo stars goes

[crude copper]

but yeah from what ive seen level design in SCW is even better than in the main game

they are definitely got the hang of what makes 3d platformers tick

and making strides even on a smaller budget

[empty osprey]

Which is absolutely insane for first attempt

[crude copper]

i say smaller as if this thing doesnt have 2 pre-rendered cutscenes and a lot of gorgeous looking in-game cutscenes

[empty osprey]

Granted they did have 30 years to get it right

Hot take

[crude copper]

i guess less smaller budget and moreso economical

[coral falcon]

They really like doing that recently, playing with ideas (both gameplay and narrative) in side games and expanding on them massively in the mainline

[empty osprey]

I prefer the in game cutscenes

[muted nymph]

I do aswell

[coral falcon]

Me too

[pulsar nexus]

||also I lied about my only sad thing about SCW being no treasure road. the lack of dedede made me sad||

[crude copper]

i like the cinematography

in pre-rendered ones

but

i dont like super realistic fur on elfilin lol

[coral falcon]

The in-game cutscenes remind me so much of the expressiveness of Kirby 64, I love it

[empty osprey]

Rtdl and tdx I do like the pre render

[pulsar nexus]

||that's why you watch the cutscene without elfilin!!||

[austere wharf]

i think it's kinda cute

[empty osprey]

But something about the hd cutscenes don’t hit the same

[austere wharf]

idk i really like pre rendered

in game r neat too 🎉

[glass citrus]

fluffy elfilin

[pulsar nexus]

rtdl/dx was so perfect for this

[empty osprey]

Awoofys look really weird in cutscenes

[pulsar nexus]

I think its the eyes

[empty osprey]

It is the eyes

[pulsar nexus]

the realistic fur vs those plastic like eyes

[empty osprey]

Exactly

[pulsar nexus]

its so uncanny lol

[muted nymph]

The prerendered cutscenes definitely go a bit too far on realism I would say

[empty osprey]

The hyper realism on pre render looks off

[austere wharf]

oh yeah the eyes r kinda funky

[empty osprey]

Rtdldx went back to stylized and it looks really good

[austere wharf]

hmmmmm

[paper spade]

|| Okay so the song (the lyrics manager Mag posted) is basically about Niechel longing for someone they can't reach (likely someone who left the new world) I think that's the simplest way I can put it? And her describing what it feels like ||

[austere wharf]

i think pr/ksa's pre rendered ones r neat

[empty osprey]

I do like robobot are good tho

Mainly do to scale and destruction working really good in pre render

[austere wharf]

at least from what i remember of them
last i saw pr was in take off!'s joysound vid 😭

[pulsar nexus]

I really hope they keep it that way
rtdldx is like, perfection in terms

but also fl with realistic fur make sense since, well, animals but yeah
looking forward to whats coming in future

[empty osprey]

Mt dedede blowing up wouldn’t hit the same in rtdl style

[austere wharf]

I'm sure they can find a nice middle ground

[muted nymph]

I'd say they already did with FL (talking about in game graphics/art style)

[empty osprey]

Just please no more eye fur

Or realistic grass

I think the lighting might also have something to do with my dislike

[empty osprey]

Oh yeah fl s2 looks gorgeous

Dare I say best looking s2 game

[austere wharf]

oh yeah i find the little outline around the eyes kinda odd sometimes

[empty osprey]

It looks good in game

[muted nymph]

Eh I wouldn't go that far but the artstyle of the game definitely helps it punch above its weight

[austere wharf]

it's somewhat unnoticeable but it bugs me during close ups 💔

not that big of a deal tho

[empty osprey]

I meant like so far

Keep in mind this is literally month 3

[muted nymph]

I suppose if we only consider Nintendo exclusives then I would agree with you

Though Prime 4 exists

[paper spade]

Based on Morpho knight EX pause description in Star allies. Where I believe it specifically mentions Morpho may appear in a land of dreams or a land of the dead (something like that). And Morpho does appear in Forgos dream realm in FL... My prediction is that the next game (likely 3D game) takes place is Kirbys universe of the underworld or at minimum Morpho next appearance does 👀

[empty osprey]

What do you consider best looking currently

No Metroid

[muted nymph]

Fast Fusion

[empty osprey]

THATS LITERALLY WHAT IM HOPING FOR

[crude copper]

i dont think pre-rendered cutscenes in RTDX look bad but its obvious that they reused the same animation rigs as the old ones and they look very stiff. environments and character models do look nice though

i think animation itself in pre-rendered cutscenes looks REALLY good and smooth

[empty osprey]

The original rtdl is also stiff

I’m fine with how rtdldx looks

It’s just the sa fl cutscene artstyle I don’t like that much

[crude copper]

i do hope that next game's pre-rendered cutscenes strike a better balance in terms of detail and stylization

[paper spade]

I think rtdldx is serviceable in that regard

[crude copper]

to an extent i feel like HAL wanted to wow us with details

[empty osprey]

Also are more constant with the actual game

[muted nymph]

Honestly I rather not have prerendered cutscenes

[crude copper]

i think they are cool

[muted nymph]

If they stick with the style they are currently doing

[crude copper]

the closest thing to good kirby cartoon we have right now

😔

[paper spade]

I want to see DeDeDe individual facial pores in the next game or so help me 😤

[empty osprey]

Especially when the in game stuff looks so amazing

Like the Kirby car scene in base game

[frigid sinew]

Wait fr?

[pulsar nexus]

they hire graduates every year

its just the application is soon

for 2026

Im scared because Im applying in 2026 and 2027

[paper spade]

Can we talk about how great the camera works especially during boss battles? It really allows them to go crazy with the attack patterns if needed be

[crude copper]

really my main hope is that they will make more (and better) character renders for the next game. HAL is very conservative with those, and often ones that don't include characters that appear in pre-rendered cutscenes look very off

looking at dedede renders for both FL and RTDX, or Clawroline render

[muted nymph]

And expect visual fidelity to be even better with the next game considering Switch 2's capabilities, SCW is still using assets and lighting if it were a Switch 1 title

[crude copper]

(we dont even get renders for smaller enemies or most bosses anymore lol)

[empty osprey]

I do unironically hope we get 60 star Allies before next game

60 fps skc would also be sick

Star allies is mainline so it’s more priority

[pulsar nexus]

I miss all the artwork for regular enemies and such

stuck with this

[paper spade]

What's wrong with literal perfection?

[pulsar nexus]

he killed my soul

[austere wharf]

that one is funny It Can Stay

[crude copper]

you know what is the last final boss to get an official artwork in any capacity.

sectonia.

that was more than 10 years ago at this point

[paper spade]

I mean, at least we have the concept art books 📚

[crude copper]

only for one game 😭

ONE game

i am shocked forgotten land or rtdx didnt get one yet

[craggy trench]

Does super kirby clash galacta knight count 🥹

[crude copper]

art and style is the most useless book of all time btw im sorry. like okay its kinda neat how it has a lot of official art in one place but they had a PERFECT opportunity to include concept-art for all games that would never get a book all to itself but they just. didnt. they relagated concept art to a small negligible portion of the whole book which is taken up by art which can be easily found on the internet otherwise.

...sorry lmao

[pulsar nexus]

wdym magolor is a final bo-

jokes aside, while I understand the artwork stuff, I also hope all those old stuff returns. I miss all the artwork...

[crude copper]

its a bit frustrating

[craggy trench]

ig leongar just got a new render thanks to nintendo music but I'm desperate for more kirby official renders of other characters

[crude copper]

wait he did

?

[craggy trench]

Yeah

[crude copper]

show

[pulsar nexus]

who invited him

[crude copper]

lmao

its not really a render its just a screenshot with background removed... but ig its the closest thing to one atp

[craggy trench]

Close enough yeah

[paper spade]

Is the Star allies concept art book the only one?

[pulsar nexus]

bro got the pose in the green screen

[craggy trench]

I hope since we're getting new FL icons through NSO we get some new renders of the characters

[summer mauve]

Star Crossed Worlds really is just ||Cooler's revenge when you think about it||

[crude copper]

yeah 😭

[crude copper]

yeah

no other game got a dedicated art-book

art and style only includes very miniscule amount of assorted concept art over the years

[paper spade]

I only have these two, I thought robobot had an art book, am I tripping?

[crude copper]

robobot didnt have an art-book

it had some of the concept art released via various different sources but no art-book

[paper spade]

💀

Maybe FL + SCW will get an art book now that the dlc is here

Like Elfilis is such a great design, I wonder what ideas they had for him before settling with the one we got and also why the went with furry bait Carol

[crude copper]

same

[pulsar nexus]

hoping rtdldx concept art will drop along with more rtdl concept art

[craggy trench]

Gcn.... i need more gcn.....

[pulsar nexus]

I've been playing SCW for almost 18 hours now 😭

I havent even slept yet

[austere wharf]

you really should b4 you pass out & wake up to 10+ hours of scw that are just you idling 😭

[crude copper]

yeah

please sleep yukkuri 😭

[craggy trench]

Yes please LOL

[pulsar nexus]

||The Lor lore literally broke me so badly I legit can’t sleep 😭 😭 😭||

||Its the biggest surprise I’ve seen since 2023||

||Like, I’ve been a huge Lor fan (RTDL fan moment) and I’ve always wondered how and where Lor was from, and what exactly they were. And, well. I feel like they’re so close. But also at same time I’m fearing that this is getting closer to the end of the ancient people arc||

[crude copper]

||i mean hey. if we actually get to the end of ancients arc. it always means theres gonna be brand new storyline to follow||

[pulsar nexus]

||But but but Magolor….||

[haughty nexus]

|| it’s hard to think where they’d go after the ancients since like their presence has been felt since like adventure ||

[crude copper]

||magolor wont go anywhere. as if he wont be a nerd about some other thing next||

[crude copper]

||WELL to be fair. we dont know anything about dimension mirror or where it came from and nothing suggests that ancients are involved so far lol||

[vapid pawn]

||I would disagree with "nothing", its design similarities and its connections to another dimension point enough to it.||

[pulsar nexus]

||”wow I wonder who you’re gonna simp for next”||

[crude copper]

||yeah but compared to other stuff its more "vibes" than outright stated evidence.||

[vapid pawn]

||Sure, though I do think Kumazaki explicitly connecting it to AD is also an important point to consider, and yea I do think the design matters||

[hoary flame]

Is there a place where I can see what people have cooked up in terms of translation of Japanese figure descriptions?

[crude copper]

also tbh you can argue that elfilis clan and void stuff has not that much to do with ancients directly and they can focus on that next

[pulsar nexus]

My brain

/gen

[hoary flame]

Open your brain

[pulsar nexus]

Okay!

[vapid pawn]

||Plus this is weaker evidence but Dark Mind fits with Nightmare and Mistilteinn as malfunction goobers lol||

[haughty nexus]

Yeah this is what i was thinking of

[vapid pawn]

||and the Mirror was supposed to reflect wishes||

[hoary flame]

No but like for real

[crude copper]

||another dimension just seems to be an overall connective tissue of everything kirby at this point, but fair enough||

[hoary flame]

I would like to have like some Google doc or whatever if there is one

[pulsar nexus]

I would talk about it but I’m fried rn from playing this game for 18 hours

[haughty nexus]

Like elfilis morpho and void are in a mysterious place in terms of lore rn

[pulsar nexus]

I will say

The translations are pretty accurate

[hoary flame]

Oh that’s good

[pulsar nexus]

They did good job on most part, even though some are kinda eh but overall it’s a good translation

[hoary flame]

Hey can you do me a favor maybe?

If there is anything where the translation clarifies stuff can you maybe DM me that?

Or maybe just put it all into a document and eventually send that in?

Idk

I am not good at Japanese at all

[pulsar nexus]

I’m sure it’ll be posted around if you check around in future

[crude copper]

this translation is peak because they canonized ||kirby of the stars|| in english 👆

[pulsar nexus]

cough

Tags

[crude copper]

didnt think of it as much of a spoiler but fair enough

[hoary flame]

||I think the most based thing is that Fecto Elfilis is canonically just nonbinary because he wants to be||

[pulsar nexus]

||what I really loved about this game’s lore is, that the lore is very clean. It’s not “oh it’s hinting” 99% of the game, but rather ended the Elfilis arc very well. And explained why we got the elder brother to show up. Or even found out they’re elder brother of Elfilis. They explained it so well in a small figure description. I guess there’s still question like Void and Starries and stuff but, I preferred, and also more easier to understand more than FL lore. I guess being a DLC and not a full game size does limit on things. But it also brought in more info, about past games stuff. It’s like a piece of puzzle that’s been missing finally been found in some way or other. It’s perfect||

[hoary flame]

||Like their brother is a guy but Fecto Specifically is just nonbinary. So based||

[hoary flame]

||What I wonder is why Elfilis + Morpho + Starries = Dark Matter?||

||This is like the closest we have come to literal Dark Matter! It uses memories to attack and even summons Dark Matter-like eyes that use the same three elements that Dark Nebula used!||

[pulsar nexus]

||I think it’s funny because people were joking around the meteor is actually Elfilis’s long lost brother and well||

[hoary flame]

||Its insane how on the nose the parody description is||

[pulsar nexus]

||always bet on dark nebula, never bet on Galacta knight. Welcome back, dark nebula||

[hoary flame]

||Welcome back Dark Matter haunting the plot!||

[craggy trench]

||we got dark nebula back through one of genwel's attacks looking like him and galacta knight a sliver of lore from a gacha figure, Dark Nebula forever||

[hoary flame]

||Because I swear to god why does Genwell explode the same way Zero did? Why?||

[craggy trench]

||I'll always bet on dark nebula from now on||

[pulsar nexus]

||people about to cope Galacta knight based the armor’s look with genwel and galactal or that Neichel and Galacta were once dating||

[indigo mulch]

||so what is Meteonelfilis's dynamic with Elfilis based on the Japanese ver||

[pulsar nexus]

||At least the mast of Lor looking like Starries might make sense now. The evil side of me wants to say the people were using the power of Starries or studied the power to get Lor moving, and Neichel possessed the Lor and the song were made because she dreamed about it as well similar to the meteor’s prophecy. She dreamed about how Lor will meet Magolor, hence the reason for stuff like fruits (apples) being mentioned. And how it references stuff related to Dream Land. The neighbor can be taken as Halcandra or Popstar as well. The Dream Land being Popstar, it’s very interesting. But regardless that’s what my evil side is saying so it’s probably overthinking. On OTHER HAND, at least Neichel is certainly going to be relevant in the future not just stuck in FL. Being tied with Lor, it means it’ll tie with Magolor. And… yeah. Enough yapping. My brain is fried. Back to gaming. MAGOLOR!!!!!!!||

[elder ice]

||My theory is that neichel has been receiving many weird dreams, and alongside the meteor, she has a dream of an ai based off her in a ship made by her people||

[pulsar nexus]

||”wow you’re such a loser. You’re shameful. So as a older brother, I’m coming to destroy this place. Never mind. This pink guy was too strong.”||

||TLDR, not much difference||

[elder ice]

||"non binary sibling you are right I'm so sorry i doubted you" ||

[strange falcon]

||GOOD LORD THAT BOSS FIGHT HAD ME SWEATING||

||My girlfriend is such a huge Galacta Knight truther rn I'm So Sorry to her when she actually gets to the final boss GOD!!!!!!||

||The fact there's those enemies named Galactals that have the same shape as Galacta's mask😭😭😭 We ain't ever getting Galacta Knight again are we||

[eager prawn]

||there are SOME crumbs.|| you could say there’s… potential

[strange falcon]

||They just keep bullying us 😭😭||

||I know I was gonna lose it had morpho knight showed up again, I remember my gf was losing her gotdam mind back during forgotten land LOL||

[eager prawn]

||I just can’t get past the fact that there is genuinely a pretty significant amount of stuff in SCW which implicitly relates to him. ||There is no way theyre not setting something up…

[strange falcon]

||I want to have hope....... He'll come back😭😭😭 And not as morpho knight💔||

||I'm a bit of a lazy head so Imma just wait till everyone slowly reveals the lore in SCW I'm not a completionist LOL||

[eager prawn]

tbh if they wanted him dead and gone they could’ve left what happened to him in KSA be… but then… SKC…

[strange falcon]

||GALACTA KNIGHT FOR SURE NEXT TIME!!!! ALWAYS BET ON GALACTA KNIGHT||

[eager prawn]

am I just going to be perpetually “all in” on GK for all time

[strange falcon]

Wowie zowie I looked in the mirror... my eyes are just so red

I gamed too hard

[crude copper]

||connection is that its very strongly implied that starries also sealed off galacta knight, this is why there is a lot of similar imagery||

[strange falcon]

Oh mah gah....

[crude copper]

||so yeah galacta knight was still mentioned. just unfought and unseen lol||

[strange falcon]

Drats!!!!

||We'll get em next time...... for sure..... definitely......||

[crude copper]

||i mean hey its better than i personally expected. i.e. nothing at all ||

[eager prawn]

remember: all IN

[strange falcon]

True!

||That boss fight had me so sweaty good lord I still got that adrenaline kicking....||

[crude copper]

just watching it was insane lol

[strange falcon]

||I almost 1st try'd but I died at the second phase of the last form💔💔💔 I was so mad when I realized I was RIGHT THERE😭||

[hoary flame]

||”Gonna fight this gumball, gonna record it and post it after when I destroy the world”

“I got my ass handed to me I ain’t posting that shit!”||

[strange falcon]

||"Okay this is a little too easy there's definitely a phase 2"

"Damn this is crazy thank god its over my health is so bad"

"IT'S NOT OVER????? AHHHHHH" ||

[elder ice]

Since a lot more people are active

I have a fic where magolor ||finds neichel’s body in the lor’s locked room||

[bold sigil]

||Soooooooo Chaos Elfilis is called ‘God of Chaos’ in jp ||

[hoary flame]

PFA- What?

[bold sigil]

||In the Ultimate Cup Z-EX his title shifts from ‘Species Born of Chaos’ to ‘Lord of Chaos’ but that’s a apparently another mistranslation||

[dire ledge]

||Lord of Chaos|| tbf is as close as we can get

[dire ledge]

im pretty sure its just because they avoid using the word ||God||

also. its a pun. its not that important

[elder ice]

What do you think

[bold sigil]

Pun?

[crude copper]

||fraudelent hyness not being able to summon true god only for kirby to beat an actual god one game and dlc later:||

[somber basalt]

Hearing that ||unfinished neichel song||

Why does it have the freedom motif.

[lapis terrace]

i just beat it. i feel ||so hyped but also like a major clown||

||i tried to not get my hopes up i swear i did... but. all the connections.......||

||im sure ill warm up to the final boss eventually but it felt. kind of a let down? not that it wasnt gk, but it was basically just elfilis 2 with a side of dark mind||