Deltarune Ch3&4 Spoiler Thread

[molten sigil]

||i highly doubt they're doing it willingly||

||hence their desperation for freedom||

[safe abyss]

||Also also, if Kris really was carrying around the knife the entire time, why is it not a usable weapon?
Previously you could make the argument they picked it up somewhere when at home, even if said argument was flimsy, but no they carry around that thing at all times||

[north jetty]

||https://fixupx.com/chubbidust/status/1930912699237425305?t=RV4iseRFcRMWL3XX4CLmmQ&s=19||

chubbidust.bsky.social (@chubbidust)

I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU
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FixupX · Jun 6, 2025, 9:00 AM

Snowgrave spoiler

||OH DON'T MIND ME JUST CRYING IN A CORNER||

[inland dagger]

||chances are kris is actively like, hiding things from us in the ui, including the knife||

||after all the only option we have to call on the phone is home||

[safe abyss]

||I mean, maybe??||

[inland dagger]

||meanwhile kris actively takes a call from a mysterious person and carol in the weird route of ch4||

[round olive]

||For all we know the Knight could be black mailing them||

[split elbow]

chapter 4 question relating to enemy locations
||does bibliox (the mage enemy) appear in the 2nd sanctuary, because i missed one of them||

[round olive]

Yes

[split elbow]

ok cool

[safe abyss]

||In general though the main point is Kris is some sort of freak who carries around a knife all the time
In fact thinking back to Chapter 2 Toriel recognises it's Kris' knife when she finds it in the pie tray, which implies it's their own personal knife||

||What kinda weirdo has their own personal knife||

[inland dagger]

||well we know kris is genuinely just a weirdo in general||

[molten sigil]

||i don't think kris is evil, but i definitely think they're in the same socially ostracized/outwardly violent category that susie's in, and that's also probably why they get along so well when the soul isn't influencing kris||

||found family and all||

[safe abyss]

||I mean yeah but i'd say there's still a difference between "being quiet and a little weird sometimes" and "Carries a knife with them at all times for no reason"||

[silent dock]

||tbh, I take chapter 4's ending as Kris hesitating to keep helping the knight, because of susie. which warrants a reminder from the knight on the phone that "they promised"||

[north jetty]

||Noelle literally states that as a kid, they would just look out the window in school and randomly throw it all down "as a prank"||

||Yeah Kris is def a lil weird lol||

[inland dagger]

||well kris isnt the "quiet kid thats a little weird type", they deadass chased noelle around with a heart pillow and said it was their heart 😭 ||

[safe abyss]

||Okay, very true||

||But idk i'd say that's still not quite the same as carrying a knife with you at all times||

[opal pumice]

read about ||ch 4 egg man encounter||

||was he kris' therapist at one point?||

[safe abyss]

I just realised
||Not only do I not know where the track "Big City Board" plays
But I don't know where "Sandy Board" plays either
The Desert Board plays "Adventure Board"||

||What are these tracks for???????||

(CHAPTER 4, but kinda early-ish)
||Anyways this line from BIG SHOT might be tied to Kris' stuff in Chapter 4 lmao||

[balmy bridge]

What's up with this guy???

[honest nest]

incredible

[safe abyss]

||I think the cat one is just meant to reference Cat Mike (who is already referencing Friend anyways but)||

||The semi-realistic cat one I mean||

||Not the questionably cat ones||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 secret area ||WHAT IN GOD'S NAME DOES ANY OF THIS MEAN???||

deltarune chapter 4: "WHAT IS HAPPENING"?: The Sequel

[balmy bridge]

||Undertale jumpscare 2||

GET OUT OF THE WAY!

||I'M TRYING TO FIGHT THE LAST ENEMY TO RECRUIT BUT THIS MF IS IN THE WAY||

||I NEED TO EDIT HIM OUT OF EXISTENCE||

[round olive]

Gandalf would be proud

[balmy bridge]

(temporarily)

[safe abyss]

(SPOILER FOR SOMETHING I THINK MOST PEOPLE HERE HAVE SEEN AT THIS POINT BUT THERE'S LIKE AT LEAST A FEW THAT HAVEN'T I THINK. IT'S IN EARLY CHAPTER 4 BUT ALSO KINDA LATE CHAPTER 4 IN A SENSE AND IT'S OPTIONAL SO UHHHHHH IDK HOW TO MAKE THE SPOILER WARNING GOOD)
||I've seen multiple people act like the Mike joke was Toby killing their cat right in front of their faces or something lmao||

[split elbow]

||uh i didn't find them||

[molten sigil]

||the mike joke is so funny because, technically, the only thing it really deconfirmed was mike being plot relevant||

||because friend face is 100% lore relevant||

[split elbow]

||pls don't tell me i missed them||

[safe abyss]

||Yeah||

||And honestly I would be HAPPY to have my silly theories referenced, yet some people act like they were stabbed 58 times and Toby was maliciously laughing at the fans||

[round olive]

||They’re in a section very close to the final boss||

[split elbow]

ohhhhh

ok i'll trust you

[safe abyss]

||It's a lighthearted jab, not a roundhouse kick to the back of the head||

[split elbow]

huh

interesting hidden text i found

kinda

||use the chapter 4 shadow crystal next to a prophecy light or whatever ykwim||

i mean it's not that interesting but still

[split elbow]

||ok i found them||

[fathom canopy]

|||he killed my cowboy||

[round olive]

||Cancelled it, even||

[gloomy onyx]

Psst... have you... done the thing there??

[honest nest]

what thing

i'm currently watching what may be the best scene in the chapter

[gloomy onyx]

You were there... did you...
||Find the room in between?||

[honest nest]

no

||where was it||

[gloomy onyx]

You were there

||You had to enter and exit that window... multiple times||

[honest nest]

||OH MY GOD I TRIED THAT AND I DIDN'T GET IT THAT'S SO UNLUCKY 😭||

[round olive]

||Kris always aura farming in the corner while the most emotional scenes play||

[honest nest]

it's fine i'm sure it was nothing
i mean i'm sure it was something
but i can always just look it up online after i finish my playthrough

cause i actually found the secret boss on my own for once so i don't need to replay lol

[gloomy onyx]

If you missed a certain something in Chapter 3 then it shouldn't be a biggie

[safe abyss]

||Your cowboy is closer to real than ever, pardner||

[balmy bridge]

sure

they might be a aura farmer

||but they will never reach their aura||

[round olive]

||This is the real reason why they’re working for it ||

[gloomy onyx]

Should we make some sort of pinnable guide for chapters 3 and 4 regarding when and where to find the major secrets??

...No question actually I may just do it myself

Mostly because it do be tedious relying on Discord's shoddy search feature

[balmy bridge]

yes

||since i fucking missed the last recruit of chapter 4||

Chapter 4

also

Chapter 3
||The Knight actually has a defeat sprite... although, the game obviously crashes if you deplete all their hp||

[safe abyss]

Chapter 3 ending spoilers
||https://vxtwitter.com/SpacePancakes/status/1931026113737773217||

💫 SpacePancakes 🥞 DELTARUNE SPOILERS (@SpacePancakes)

// Deltarune Spoilers

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The Goddamn Chapter Select changes from Tenna to the Knight when you beat the Chapter…are you kidding me https://t.co/TXCX0LuXDy

QRT: radialasymmetry
I KNEW I DIDNT SEE TEETH. why did i see teeth in people's screenshots

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jun 6, 2025, 4:31 PM

[split elbow]

Chapter 4 easter egg
||there's dialogue if you play the big piano song again||

[safe abyss]

REPEATING BECAUSE HTIS IMAGE WAS HUGE, CHAPTER 3 ENDING SPOILERS

[gloomy onyx]

I may do the guide via tumblr or something, but it may take a while...

[safe abyss]

||There's another easter egg here too||

[gloomy onyx]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN-

WHAT DOES THIS IMPLY

[split elbow]

ooo, what is it

[gloomy onyx]

The Answer:
||Obviously this is probs a failsafe, unintended thing when you kill an enemy the game never intends for you to kill||

[safe abyss]

||As a hint, 4 notes||
||4 VERY WELL KNOWN notes||

[split elbow]

oh

[unique copper]

||just beat the chapter 4 secret boss that was fucking awesome||

[unique copper]

say that again

[split elbow]

||i think ik what you're talking about but idk which of them it specifically is 😭||

[pearl bridge]

Why am I having so much difficulty finding OST tracks are they being taken down on YT?

Oh no wait there's the official uploads, am I foolish?

[balmy bridge]

soundcloud

me whenever ||the sanctuary|| plays

https://tenor.com/view/cherrysticker-gif-19173161

[safe abyss]

||Megalovania||

||If you play Megalovania something happens||

[balmy bridge]

||Toby is basically: "that shit not appearing, get it over"||

[safe abyss]

||I wouldn't say that's exactly it, it's just a silly joke
Odds aren't particularly high, but I wouldn't say it's him directly saying no to it||

[balmy bridge]

im sure ||megalovania is gonna return but just as a leitmotif||

[safe abyss]

||When you enter 'Sans (the store) in Chapter 5 the music is slightly changed so every third loop plays the first four notes of Megalovania||

||It is not on the soundtrack||

[gloomy onyx]

psst

Hey if you've completed chapter 3, or have gotten enough into the story at some point...

[honest nest]

apparently there's a secret ||debug-like area???|| in chapter 3
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ44sYKtTpE||

[quartz sable]

My favorite music from 3 + 4
||https://youtu.be/OobVFldn6As
https://youtu.be/nP9mB1sVJz4
Hopefully from now on is used in more chapters||

[honest nest]

||OH MY GOD IT TAKES 1225 POINTS||

[gloomy onyx]

...For no reason in particular...
Check USER/APPDATA/LOCAL/DELTARUNE

[balmy bridge]

hiii

i already knew that

[gloomy onyx]

(Chapter 3)
||The image varies, it will be whatever it was you took that day||

[split elbow]

||ik but what notes, i've been trying like 20 different note combinations and nothing happened 😭||

[gloomy onyx]

(Chapter 3)
||It seems like it may overwrite itself on further replays||

[lunar veldt]

[EARLY CHAPTER 3] ||I was watching a stream and what do you means Rouxls is bisexual||

[safe abyss]

||I'll try to find it||

[opal pumice]

||which recruit were you missing||

[safe abyss]

||I think it MIGHT be left, left, octave change, left, down-right||

||It's hard to tell from the video I found of someone doing it||

[honest nest]

?

[safe abyss]

||Oh and you have to start on the lower octave I think||

idk man

[honest nest]

oh my god
||that's adorable||

[balmy bridge]

||miss mizzle||

[safe abyss]

||OH YOUR IMAGE GETS SAVED FOREVER!||

||How fun!||

[balmy reef]

I wonder if dialogue changes in snow grave route in chapter 3 and 4 if so I am going to replay chapter 1 and 2

[nimble jetty]

FINALLY FINISHEC CHAPTERS 1 AND 2

onto ch3 :)

[balmy bridge]

[nimble jetty]

i hadnt played them on pc

[balmy bridge]

||it does||

||chapter 3 doesn't bring anything, but chapter 4 has some dialogue changes and a special cutscene||

[round olive]

Chapter 3 secret boss

||So is Kris’ attack going up overtime a Kris thing or a Shadow Mantle thing?||

[gloomy onyx]

HEY HEY [railway], THIS IS [restricted access]!
YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED!

I'M SORRY [railroad], I CAN'T GIVE [hyperlink blocked], COME BACK WHEN YOU'RE A LITTLE MMMMM [past the finish line]!

[honest nest]

||do-do i get a second chance||

[gloomy onyx]

WHAT?
YOU ALREADY ARE?!

well... best stay away from this unless you got some BIG BIG moments in spoiler flagged formats to showcase...

[gloomy onyx]

Honestly I'm not sure... go try... and if it don't work...

[nimble jetty]

instant favorite

[round olive]

||Actually, nevermind, it seems to be based on how many party members are left||

[nimble jetty]

aight time to disappear

[honest nest]

...it does
...fuck yeah

[round olive]

||Mini Bludin?||

[nimble jetty]

||you get the secret boss for ch3 on this game thjing right||

[round olive]

||Yeah make sure to get S rank. Getting an extra Key/ equivalent seems to be the most important thing though.||

[honest nest]

||can't believe i got both the secret boss AND THE EGG on my first chapter 4 playthrough. now i'm 1/4 for both lol||

[nimble jetty]

||on which fight?||

[round olive]

||You’ve already reached the section where you’re playing a game within a game, right?||

[honest nest]

chapter 4
||this fucking thing showing up everywhere is the best running gag in the game||

[opal pumice]

||oh so you didn't get the secret boss in ch 4 then, because miss mizzle shows up in the middle of that quest||

[balmy bridge]

||nah, i was too lazy to find the notes that i just went and found a video showing the keys to play||

[nimble jetty]

yes

[opal pumice]

||she's on the top of climbable spot on the left in the middle of that whole field with all the dark bullets circling around||

[balmy bridge]

||i know but the path is blocked by a dumbass mage||

unless...

hey, does debug mode include noclip

[opal pumice]

||at what point in the game are you in now||

||story wise||

[balmy bridge]

||I already beaten the chapter||

[round olive]

||You’re ranked for that entire section. The individual fights within it don’t matter all that much.||

[balmy bridge]

||I just didnt save in the final spot just in case||

[opal pumice]

||well in this current playthrough you're in - already at the third sanctuary?||

[balmy bridge]

uhh

i think its no longer possible

fuck it, im editing this file

also quick fact

Chapter 3

||Mess up a lot and you will get Z rank, and you will still have access to the S room||

[unique copper]

…disgusting game design

[nimble jetty]

can I reattempt it

[balmy bridge]

[nimble jetty]

@balmy bridge ||can I reattempt tenna's game||

[balmy bridge]

i have no idea

[old bramble]

idk but I know you can ||buy s-rank from a pippins in the lower room||

[nimble jetty]

oh? where

||is the lower room||

[fathom canopy]

||yes||

||chapter 3 has a lot of not-cool missable content that could really use having a warning, like "hey if you do this you won't be able to try again!" or just like, not locking things for the sake of locking||

||I recommend saving before doing the boards so you can retry them and some stuff later on||

[old bramble]

I think so! Haven't seen it myself - going off hearsay lol

[honest nest]

i'm genuinely tearing up over chapter 4's (almost) ending dude jesus christ

[nimble jetty]

nice

[honest nest]

genuinely amazing

[nimble jetty]

i hope chapter 3 and 4 arent too long

[split elbow]

finished chapter 4

man

[honest nest]

||i can't fucking believe they actually used it's raining somewhere else. like. they literally just confirmed that THIS is "somewhere else"||

[split elbow]

chapter 3 really isn't, NOW CHAPTER 4

[split elbow]

yeah it's pretty long i'd say

[honest nest]

FUCK YOU TOBY FOX FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

[nimble jetty]

now what

[honest nest]

fucking masterpiece

GEQGHUQEGUHUHUQEGHUQEGQQEGEGUI

[old bramble]

if I were kris ||i would fucking hate sans no lie LOL||

[honest nest]

GEQJGEEGQEGHEGH

[round olive]

Chapter 3 secret boss

||They really just said “here’s that intentionally nearly undodgeable Asriel attack but 10x longer and you also have to survive it”||

[honest nest]

times deltarune has made me cry:

2

ANYWAY GUESS I'LL DO THE WEIRD ROUTE TOMORROW WAHOOOOOOOOO

[nimble jetty]

I got the thing

[honest nest]

old deltarune theory video that predicted a major part of chapter 4: ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jWrZMLwPpM I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE JARU PREDICTED GERSON BEING REVIVED FROM HIS DUST IN A DARK WORLD 3 DANG YEARS PRIOR. NEVER JUDGE HIS THEORIZING CAPABILITIES AGAIN.||

[round olive]

Chapter 3 and 4 secret bosses
||There seems to be a pattern with odd number secret bosses being more difficult than even number secret bosses…||

[old bramble]

||ive been seeing people call him oberon just cuz of that theory lol. it is strange they never outright name him in the dark world||

[nimble jetty]

best boss ever

[round olive]

||Susie conveniently doesn’t know the name of Monster JRR Tolkien||

[old bramble]

real lmao

[honest nest]

it genuinely feels like these 2 chapters gave us exactly enough information to feel satisfied with all the stuff we didn't know, like all the theories that were confirmed and deconfirmed
and at the same time it feels like we have the perfect amount of vague hints left to theorize, like ||WHO THE HELL KRIS IS CALLING|| in chapter 4
speaking of chapter 4('s ending), ||I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE WE ALREADY HAVE A 2026 RELEASE WINDOW DUDE I'M SO GLAD WE ONLY HAVE TO WAIT A YEAR AND A HALF MAX TO GET MORE OF THIS INCREDIBLE GAME||

[old bramble]

||there's something really funny about susie's reaction going from "HE'S A DEAD DUDE?" to "can we take him to our castle town" lmao||

[honest nest]

||obviously they don't wanna reveal the "when a monster's dust is revived in a dark world their name is an anagram" thing yet!||

[old bramble]

[honest nest]

||i just realized this kinda parallels their conversation in the|| chapter 4 secret boss, ||where susie says she doesn't want an ending, while OBERON SMOG has seemingly already accepted his fate||

god, chapter 3 was really good, but 4 is a fucking masterpiece

[old bramble]

||the music in 4 especially is just fucking insane||

[honest nest]

chapter 4>>>chapter 2>>>chapter 3>chapter 1
in my opinion

1 is only in last cause it's pretty dang short and didn't give us much to work with yet lol

[honest nest]

DUDE I KNOW RIGHT

||i love how it's also using more undertale leitmotifs||

but man it's so sad that ||undyne (EXTRA LARGE SPOILER TEXT TO AVOID SPOILERED SPOILERS)|| died of ligma

[old bramble]

||her appearing in ch3 was hype as fuck and I'm sad we gotta wait at least another year to see her again lol||

[honest nest]

||also like yeah the mayor is definitely the knight right
we never see them in the same place
and if it's not her it's dess
ALSO OH MY GOD WE ACTUALLY GOT TO SEE THE MAYOR LIKE OMG I CAN'T STOP THINKING ABOUT HOW COOL THIS CHAPTER IS||

[honest nest]

true and true

||but ONLY 0.5-1.5 (probably about 1.25 imo) years is really really good||

[old bramble]

the detail of ||her using a goddamn KATANA is either like the most obvious piece of foreshadowing or a huge intentional red herring I swear lol||

[old bramble]

real yeah

[honest nest]

ANYWAY THE UNDERTALE 10TH ANNIVERSARY IS IN, LIKE, 3 FREAKING MONTHS, SO WE DON'T EVEN HAVE TO WAIT LONG FOR ANY NEW UTDR CONTENT

WOOOO

[honest nest]

TRUEE

[old bramble]

Undertale hard mode. It's Happening

[honest nest]

once i play the weird route tomorrow i can finally use twitter again without seeing a thousand untagged spoilers

i already got spoiled by THREE PEOPLE IN A ROW posting "||YOUR TAKING TOO LONG||" yesterday lol

not a major spoiler but still kinda annoying

[honest nest]

i genuinely hope so

GODDDD TOBY FOX IS INCREDIBLE

[old bramble]

OH YEAH SPEAKING OF how did you feel about ||jackestein||
||from what I've seen a lot of people do not like him LOL||

[honest nest]

and everyone else who worked on the game of course

[honest nest]

||why not?? he seems like a fun innocent character to me||

OH YEAH AND AFTER I FINALLY FULLY COMPLETE THESE CHAPTERS I'LL BUY A SWITCH 2 TOO

wait shit i just realized ||i never saw that one pink and yellow blobs minigame from the trailer||
||how the hell do you get that??||

[old bramble]

||i liked him but I will say I'm not a fan of chaser segments in video games so the fight was a little stressful for me lol I was rushing through and taking hits even though someone said he only does it at a certain point in the maze. I've heard some people struggled to beat him though which was surprising||

[honest nest]

yeah same lol

[old bramble]

||the ytp style splicing on his vocal lines was funny though||

[honest nest]

||i just have this menu with the epic music in the background lol. with everything in the menu being themed around this chapter it genuinely feels like a giant turning point in the story||

[honest nest]

||YOUR LONG||

[old bramble]

regarding big story moments, ||what exactly do you think the prophecy that susie saw and ralsei cried over was. obviously something pretty bad. Given what it says about the last tragedy, is it like. Ralsei has to sacrifice himself or something??||

[honest nest]

this feels like the main thing people are gonna theorize about until chapter 5 lol

[old bramble]

real lol

[honest nest]

i saw spookydood already made a theory (or possibly big analysis with some of his own ideas) video on the 2 chapters so i'm hyped to see that

||http://fxtwitter.com/BrunoGoldberg/status/1930414517688607122|| lol, lmao even

Bruno (@BrunoGoldberg)

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||also i just realized i never placed the egg from chapter 3 anywhere (nor the one from 4) if that's even possible.||

[old bramble]

||i didn't either - I think the ch3 one is impossible and I wanna say ch4 probably is too but I'm not sure||

[honest nest]

here's a random filled out chapter 4 bingo card i found online
||almost a bingo twice but not quite||

[old bramble]

I'm a little surprised at just ||how much the game dropped chess theory off a cliff LOL I thought we'd have some sorta consistent formula but ch4 is like Nah. There is no Main Evil Guy||

[old bramble]

you can check off ||candle darkners - that's what that big fat smokey one is supposed to be||

[honest nest]

||same with the secret boss formula lmao. no more guaranteed discarded objects, freedom, amusement park rides, or even the secret boss actually being... secret||

[old bramble]

YEAH all of that just. poof

[honest nest]

||though the knight very much seems like an outliar since OBERON SMOG actually uses the freedom leitmotif and a unique soul mode||

[honest nest]

||but also he has only susie which is pretty sick||

||and ALSO them giving a different item depending on if you fight or spare them||

||honestly a little unfortunate that we can't really try to predict secret bosses...AT ALL anymore, but it's still cool that they're doing more unique stuff||

[old bramble]

||lmao yeah it's like Oops! all weapons now||

[honest nest]

||screw being a pacifist-||

[old bramble]

||I do definitely appreciate how much freer (haha) the game feels without the formulas at least but yeah they were fun||

[honest nest]

||we're truly entering the unknown. the dark, if you will.||

||but also like us now having the context of most of don't forget's lyrics is so cool. like "when the light is running low etc etc and the places that you know seems like fantasy" now obviously describes dark worlds. and the "light inside your soul" is LITERALLY a light inside your soul.||

man

i gotta go process all of this information now

[old bramble]

real af

[honest nest]

https://fxtwitter.com/tobyfox/status/1931124211239858487 new toby fox tweets

tobyfox (@tobyfox)

Important UNDERTALE/DELTARUNE PSA for YouTubers, streamers:
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FxTwitter · Jun 6, 2025, 11:01 PM

youtube being extremely annoying about utdr music as always

early chapter 3 ||https://fxtwitter.com/changanomaly/status/1930499773699629260 https://fxtwitter.com/GummyGuppy/status/1930831999138206101|| bruh

🦋 changan/长安 DELTARUNE CH3&4 SPOILERS (@changanomaly)

deltarune spoilers
︀︀
︀︀i just realized........

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Willow🏳️‍⚧️😈 (@GummyGuppy)

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FxTwitter · Jun 6, 2025, 3:39 AM

[split elbow]

gonna do the weird route

||i'll have to play through chapter 3 again tho, then i'll get to the new stuff,||

||it's still a good chance to see some easter eggs i missed||

[gloomy onyx]

OOOF THAT TOOK FOREVER but for those who care about: Secret Bosses, Shadow Crystals, Eggs, maybe some SUPER EASY to miss enemies for Chapters 3 and 4... I just made a guide on tumblr!

⚠️ Of course, SPOILERS!!! ⚠️

📘 Guide Below:
||https://www.tumblr.com/zerbietheslug/785647401077784576/zerbies-barebones-deltarune-ch-3-4-secret?source=share||

I try my best not to directly show the secret bosses or Major Plotpoints... except for one un-embed video link showcasing that exact thing...

[split elbow]

||still interested where the eggs are placed tho||

||like ok maybe not chapter 3, since that one just dissapears from your inventory in the chapter 4 beginning||

||but what about the one in chapter 4? it's still there, maybe we can place it somewhere during the night, or maybe it's in chapter 5, idk||

[opal pumice]

|| https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifINNsGgFyA ||

[gloomy onyx]

If anyone wants to pin this, feel free!
Should make the hassle of searching up stuff on discord... not an issue??

[gloomy onyx]

Oh damn I have to update my guide already!!!

[balmy bridge]

Of course it's midblr

I AM NOT MAKING AN ACCOUNT

[gloomy onyx]

Wait gimme a moment here

I'm pretty sure I have the setting that makes shared posts... be visible to everyone regardless of account??

Oh this is bullshit... I thought there was a way to make that NOT have the popup

Oh ok lemme do something here

[shrewd dove]

honeastly nowadays tumblr is MUCH tamer

compared to twitter at least

in fact the only problem i had on tumblr were bot accounts

[gloomy onyx]

OK DISREGARD PREVIOUS LINK, here's one for non-users vvv

⚠️ SPOILERS For SECRET BOSSES, SHADOW CRYSTALS, EGG ROOMS, GENERAL STORY STUFF ⚠️

📘 Guide below:
||https://zerbietheslug.tumblr.com/post/785647401077784576/zerbies-barebones-deltarune-ch-3-4-secret||

It was intended to have a "read more" line break, but the means of making my posts visible to non-users kinda removes that!
So keep that in mind!

(Again, any mods in the chat, feel free to pin this guide to make secret hunting just a LITTLE more convenient)

[gloomy onyx]

You should be able to view the new link now

[honest nest]

WHAT

||...somehow that's even more obscure||

[frigid wedge]

Noo way

[opal pumice]

||she doesn't read||

[opal pumice]

||how is this christmas reindeer aurafarming so effortlessly||

[honest nest]

soundtrack ||why do some of the tracks in chapter 4 just, not correctly capitalize all words lol. like "Another day in hometown"||

[gloomy onyx]

That's ||just a sentence||

[round olive]

Can anyone confirm if the chapter 3 and 4 mini bosses ||are almond milk drinkers?||

[honest nest]

||but no other music titles work that way||

chapter 4

[round olive]

||Both Ralsei and Tenna deserve an apology ||

[honest nest]

chapter 3 secret ||huh so i guess this trully is the "Not applicable. But..."||

[shrewd dove]

||tenna only got beef with spamton but both were equally desperated

doomed yaoi as the kids says||

[shrewd dove]

||you kiinda need to do this if you want to survive a wee bit longer against the knight||

||unlike snowgrave which is ||

[honest nest]

chapter 3 secret ||so i watched a short and apparently it IS possible to beat the knight without the shadow mantle, which is very very interesting. according to a random comment seam even has unique dialogue for this.||

[split elbow]

FULL CHAPTER 3 AND FULL CHAPTER 4 SPOILERS
||we should make a poll to see who people think the knight is, cause at this point there's only 2 candidates: Dess or Carol||

[shrewd dove]

||i was thinkngi it was carol considering she seems like a bitch......but considering dess is missing we cant rule them out||

||-i use them cuz im not sure what gender is dess||

[split elbow]

||female||

[split elbow]

||there's also the unused text to take into consideration, it updated||

||so if dess was the knight, it would be weird if the person in the unused text string was her||

[shrewd dove]

ah

[split elbow]

||unless it's another person in the unused text||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 ||can't believe that these two are (on a big technicality) the same character||

[alpine dawn]

i was so surprised CH3 ||Tenna ended being a full prerendered sprite....like, i thought it was only for the intro video and then he stayed like that lol||

[final tendon]

||whats the updated text say||

[north jetty]

https://x.com/punchingalt/status/1931091630129307836?t=qgoe2tWJ4sLJiT4tGYtyFw&s=19

pm DELTARUNE SPOILERS (@punchingalt)

if 4 is that much smaller than 5 what the FUCK is happening in 5 I'm scared

X · Jun 6, 2025, 8:51 PM

[gloomy onyx]

Alternatively

[north jetty]

Oh my god Ch5 Snowgrave is gonna be DIABOLICAL

[gloomy onyx]

fuck beat me to it

[pearl bridge]

||"Noelle said she was very excited to go with you" - Carol||

[gloomy onyx]

...Also... Haven't personally experienced it yet but HOLY SHIT

(Chapter 4, Weird)
||THE RED DOT, THE THANK YOU PAGE... IT WAS FOR THIS ROUTE||

[balmy bridge]

||I'm weirding it, I'm weirding it.||

||I'm gonna weird the route.||

[final tendon]

ch4 weird route ||they removed the rose losing its petals animation bc people were taking it too literally||

[honest nest]

soo ||the light blue type of "neo" dark fountain at|| the end of chapter 4 ||is definitely the one shown in the menu right???||

[split elbow]

||https://x.com/jojoton56/status/1930654529034318050||

[gloomy onyx]

As terrible as it is to say... ||it would have fit all things considered... but if that's NOT the case...|| then what??

[final tendon]

||a much more tame "losing ones innocence" metaphor is what i gathered from it||

||like she just was told she actually killed a bunch of sentient creatures and put her friend in a coma||

[gloomy onyx]

(weird 4)
||So is this still dess or is this noelle?||

[pliant loom]

Chapter 4 || https://youtu.be/zUdaQNlIJZk||

[honest nest]

(chapter 4) does he know

(chapter 4) he doesn't know

[pearl bridge]

Spoilers for uh everything ig
||Carol is:

• Cold blooded as hell
• Is directly aware of both dark fountains and the soul possessing Kris
• Directly communicates with Kris about sacrificing Undyne and where the Next Fountain will be
• Has a missing/deceased daughter and an Ill/Dying Husband
• HAS NOT ONE, BUT TWO KATANAS IN HER HOUSE (The one in her room is even black ⚠️)
• Is the Mayor and so has ease of access to the Shelter
• Kris has made a promise with her.||

||The Knight:

• Makes Kris kneel if the first battle against it is "won" rather than just striking them
• Is capable of accessing the light world/creates dark fountains (is a lightner)
• Accesses the Bunker's dark world.
• If reached in chapter 4's beginning sequence with them, Kris does not attack the knight, and lets them be struck down.||

[balmy bridge]

i think the scene ||where Asgore is talking alone and says "black shard" is mostly just referring to the katana in her room||

[pearl bridge]

||Yeah||

[balmy bridge]

that what i said

[north jetty]

||I thought it was her hand bleeding out from the ring||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 spoilers that likely hint at chapter 5 ||...so chapter 5's dark world(s???) is definitely gonna be in flower king right. i mean susie even noticed its back door||

[final tendon]

hell yeah

[old bramble]

oooo hell yes please

[final tendon]

||return of flowey...||

[gloomy onyx]

(CHAPTER 4)
||According to Asgore's dialogue upon eavesdropping him in another room... perhaps he is the one to instigate a dark world at his place?||

[pearl bridge]

||Oh yeah, he knows||

[final tendon]

||we still havent found out why asgore was kicked off the police force huh||

[pearl bridge]

||We'll find out...in a year||

[final tendon]

||maybe its bc he couldnt find dess or had an unintentional hand in her dessappearance||

[honest nest]

chapter 3 ||https://x.com/daily_object__/status/1930864659050967272 there's no way whoever runs this account isn't a deltarune fan||

Daily object (@daily_object__)

Daily Object #421:

Water Cooler

X · Jun 6, 2025, 5:49 AM

[gloomy onyx]

Fuck you 😰

[pearl bridge]

||https://youtu.be/sAL1jRM7isA?si=TTofycvI0o8nKj1X || Chapter 3, unused

||THIS IS SO FUNNY||

[final tendon]

buble

[opal pumice]

||so is ch 3's watercooler also a mizzle or is she just a watercooler||

[gloomy onyx]

||Forshadowing||

[opal pumice]

ye

[gloomy onyx]

Like seriously though

[opal pumice]

actually ||there's 2 watercoolers too||

[gloomy onyx]

||That one camera person NPC later on talks something about the water coolers in specifically||

[final tendon]

ch4
||when youre at your friends house and they start arguing with their parents||

[opal pumice]

...i forgot if it was said in this discord or another one but ||i can't unsee how carol looks like the grinch now||

||...grinch knight...||

[final tendon]

guys i think i have a theory

https://tenor.com/view/emma-frost-emma-frost-wink-marvel-rivals-gif-8209594417527485430

[gloomy onyx]

I think??

[final tendon]

how do i spoiler a tenor gif

[fickle otter]

I somehow got out of bounds on ||soul exploration|| in chapter 4. I pressed up when I exited the ||vent in the main room||

[gloomy onyx]

You know, Deltarune just has a LOT of continuous dialogues

[pearl bridge]

LITERALLY

[gloomy onyx]

Like sure some repeat things, but others got more than 1 thing to say...

Lemme check something RQ

Anyways so yeah chapter 3 is 100% complete, it has the 2 stars

[old bramble]

||i really like that she doesn't outright shame asgore for eating the snack tray she's just like "please do it outside" lmao||

[gloomy onyx]

Ok just checked...
||Discussing with the NPC a 2nd time alludes to the water coolers housing mizzles||

This and ||The "hermit"|| are the only times they tease enemies from the next chapter

[balmy bridge]

uh anyway

what month do you think chapter 5 is releasing

[gloomy onyx]

12

[balmy bridge]

WOAH MAN

YOU CANT SAY THAT

[gloomy onyx]

97

86

[balmy bridge]

good.

[alpine dawn]

omg ||JEALOUSY OF SANS DATING TORIEL....||

[nimble jetty]

CHA[PTER 3 DONE

[jagged lotus]

Question for Chapters 3 and 4 on weird route ||without spoiling too much will I have to go out of my way to do something specific on each chapter to continue the weird route or can I simply continue like normal and the weird stuff will happen?||

[nimble jetty]

ch3 ending ||dude susie im crying wtf||

[old bramble]

Ay ggs! grats on beating the end boss

[nimble jetty]

WAIT WHAT

[alpine dawn]

||SURPRISE||

[nimble jetty]

WHAT

||WHERE DID UNDYNE COME FROM||

[opal pumice]

||remember toriel called the police because of the slashed tires||

[old bramble]

||Say, you know how you haven't gotten a shadow crystal this chapter yet?||

[nimble jetty]

a what

okay that's chap 3 fully down

[old bramble]

||Those little things you get from beating secret bosses that Sean evaluates||

oops autocorrect

[nimble jetty]

poohhhh

i see.

anyways deltarune has made me cry two days in a row

[old bramble]

there's some strong emotional beats in this one

[honest nest]

||and that's only the second best chapter ending!||

[nimble jetty]

||finally some good fucking melee references||

[round olive]

||I like how the first one you encounter has the simplest vocabulary possible while the last one you fight is as verbose as possible.||

[pearl bridge]

||Chapter 4 you need to do a specific cutscene or else the route aborts||

[jagged lotus]

||Noted||

[honest nest]

(chapter 4)
so like
...
yeah

[round olive]

||Did not expect what happened in that animation to actually happen in one of the chapters yet tbh||

[honest nest]

(also chapter 4)
also like
...
yup

[pearl bridge]

||I was so convinced that the trailer animatic would be for the fucking angel, or final boss, NOT THE CHAPTER 4 FINAL BOSS||

[honest nest]

😭

[pearl bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/pomidor-tomato-veggietales-shocked-realization-gif-17630703

[honest nest]

||https://fxtwitter.com/chompsreal/status/1930786187012382729|| (chapter 4) now that i can use twitter again without having to constantly avoid spoilers i keep finding these funny tweets

chompz (@chompsreal)

Shows up
︀︀> Steals Undyne's motif
︀︀> Casually hands you a ShadowCrystal
︀︀> Neg diffs a Titan
︀︀> Dies
︀︀
︀︀Is he just built different?

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FxTwitter · Jun 6, 2025, 12:37 AM

[alpine dawn]

||i loved him, the most fun SB fight so far imho...even when i dont dislike any of them, the music here was booping||

[pearl bridge]

||GYA HA HA||

[fathom canopy]

done with le game

im so glad that (post chapter 4) ||5 is coming next year||

[honest nest]

OH RIGHT TOBY TOLD US TO RELOAD OUR SAVE FILE AFTER CHAPTER 4 I FORGOT ABOUT THAT-
i'll do that tomorrow
...deltarune tomorrow

[shrewd dove]

ch3 ||man i cant beat the knight, no matter what i do the sans-like attack just obliterates me||

[alpine dawn]

i got actually kinda frustrated too so ||i write down all thier attacks order more less||...funny enought ||while writting down, i beat it||

[gloomy onyx]

Well, if it seems like it's too much, there's... the nuclear option

[fathom canopy]

OH?

[shrewd dove]

no

||i REFUSE to go to chapter 4 with THAT ending||

[gloomy onyx]

What?

[shrewd dove]

||im getting rfustrated too, the one where it splits thescreen just kills me no matter how much i try to dodge||

[gloomy onyx]

What what?? No

[honest nest]

chapter 3 ending ||https://fxtwitter.com/SpacePancakes/status/1931026113737773217 oh my god||

💫 SpacePancakes 🥞 DELTARUNE SPOILERS (@SpacePancakes)

// Deltarune Spoilers
︀︀
︀︀-
︀︀-
︀︀The Goddamn Chapter Select changes from Tenna to the Knight when you beat the Chapter…are you kidding me

Quoting Asym Deltarune Spoilers !! (@radialasymmetry)
︀
I KNEW I DIDNT SEE TEETH. why did i see teeth in people's screenshots

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FxTwitter · Jun 6, 2025, 4:31 PM

[gloomy onyx]

No-

Fuck

Dammit man i wanted to make an avgn reference with

THAT'S RIGHT WE'RE GONNA CHEAT

[shrewd dove]

||hm...idk man i already cheated to get the points to get the best armor||

[gloomy onyx]

(Chapter 3)
||All I did was set HP to 999||

||This gets reset for the next chapter so DW||

[honest nest]

chapter 3 ending ||what if the chapter is called "Late Night" because the "kNight" shows up "Late"||

chapter 3 ending ||https://fxtwitter.com/ArbeePoo/status/1931043960127909959 ...OH||

arby (@ArbeePoo)

for everybody that refuses to believe its a bat that morphs into a sword for some reason???????????????????????

Quoting arby (@ArbeePoo)
︀
I'm so serious this bat knocks literally every other theory out of the park why would carol be wielding a baseball bat sword

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▶ Play video

FxTwitter · Jun 6, 2025, 5:42 PM

[shrewd dove]

||o-oh||

[gloomy onyx]

IDK what happens when you change anything else but that thing seems like the SAFEST type of thing to change for this fucked up situation we're willing to put ourselves in

[pearl bridge]

||If it meant to be a bat initially...would the top be more...blunt?||

[gloomy onyx]

(Chapter 3, FINALE)
||No, shadow mantle means jack shit even when everyone is wearing a PAIR of them because... woopty-freaking-doo! The Knight has attacks that the armor doesn't protect against!||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 ||https://fxtwitter.com/PvzDaily/status/1930836628479647940WAIT OH MY GOD THE MIKE THING GENUINELY REFERENCES ALL THE FAN THEORIES||

~ ! INCANVENIENCE ! ~ 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 (@PvzDaily)

@jadedholiday Yes. All 3 of them are referencing a popular theory
︀︀The smile
︀︀Friend Inside Me
︀︀and Mikecat

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FxTwitter · Jun 6, 2025, 3:58 AM

[honest nest]

||https://fxtwitter.com/_kyregcy/status/1930693221283156099 LITERALLY A COWBOY WHO SAYS HE HAS "FRIENDS" ON THE "INSIDE"||

rayo (@_kyregcy)

ASKFNSKFBSL

Quoting tobyfox (@tobyfox)
︀
After you finish Chapter 4, make sure to load up your save file one more time afterwards. There might have been something you missed!

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FxTwitter · Jun 5, 2025, 6:28 PM

[shrewd dove]

||...which line of the code are kris, susie and ralsei's HP?||

[honest nest]

||this is even further supported by this likely being added late into development since it was themed around the switch 2, as well as toby saying they hadn't implemented pluey yet||

[minor delta]

||deltarune fans are gonna start seeing a water cooler like how kirby fans see butterflies||

[gloomy onyx]

||Whatever one has the exact same number as their HP?? I used a whole file editing website for the change tho... nothing corrupty has happened onto chapter 4 so far||

[minor delta]

||it has been there since the start||

[gloomy onyx]

||Like this works https://saveeditor.spamton.com/ kinda but you should ALWAYS back up your files!||

OH AND OF COURSE you gotta look up which is which or else it won't apply...

very confusing file system this game has

[old bramble]

||it just had some of the best vibes honestly. I love that this one wasn't "I'm going to kill YOU!" it was just a badass training arc for susie - it's so unique||

[alpine dawn]

btw, idk if i asked this here but ||if you replay Rise up your bat minigame, ralsei sometimes get too into it....like he will yell the lyrics, like has a new sprite and all.....but i havent seen anyone mention this anywhere||

[languid siren]

So

I beat chapter 4

[gloomy onyx]

Ok but did it beat you?

[honest nest]

spamton save editor just completely stopped working for me a while ago lol

[languid siren]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[gloomy onyx]

Oh really?!

[languid siren]

I was NOT expecting ||a fucking TITAN to be a chapter boss||

[gloomy onyx]

No it's... it's still up... maybe just a temp shut down??? It worked the other day

[honest nest]

||https://fxtwitter.com/RHVGamer/status/1930982212817637435 i saw it||

RHVGamer (DELTARUNE SPOILERS) (@RHVGamer)

he just screamed his heart out lmao

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FxTwitter · Jun 6, 2025, 1:36 PM

[languid siren]

||thats fucking final boss material and they made it a disc one final boss||

Man

[gloomy onyx]

Well it's a shut down we know who to blame

[honest nest]

oh hey it's working again
neat

[shrewd dove]

i cant find them....

[gloomy onyx]

Just... use the spamton file editing website

It's... functional

[languid siren]

||and its my favorite boss in the entire game thus far too, it really felt like taking down a world ending catastrophe||

[gloomy onyx]

I do not suggest changing items or armor or anything but HP for this situation

[languid siren]

||recognizing the trailer wings from it was also cool||

[alpine dawn]

OH COOL, btw, ||was he playing the right lyrics now? or still his version?||

[gloomy onyx]

Hey uh... ok IK pipes brought something up earlier today but I don't think it was properly showcased

[honest nest]

||there weren't any lyrics||

[gloomy onyx]

(Chapter 4)
||https://x.com/Dinosauriaetc/status/1931001091040092455||

What happens when you do that in this?

[alpine dawn]

oh ok....||btw I LOVE IT, RALSEI IS GETTING BADASS LOL||

[honest nest]

LMFAOOO HAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

I LOVE YOU TOBY FOX

||i really wonder how many insanely obscure secrets there are in these chapters because i've already seen SO MANY||

[honest nest]

||...probably because it was it's tv time instead of raise up your bat||

[old bramble]

BRO ||i tried to play megalovania but i was doing it in the wrong key (i am not a music guy lol)||

[honest nest]

||damn i got a 311 combo before messing up lol||

[pearl bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/open-season-shaw-deer-run-over-meme-gif-12251156658227451666

[opal pumice]

||someone in another discord i'm in just had a thought that perhaps dess' mind and body were separated somehow, and her body is what has become the roaring knight via darkness corruption while her mind is calling out||

[shrewd dove]

ch3 ||I BEAT THE KNIGHT AT LAST!||

[old bramble]

GG!!!

[shrewd dove]

W||AIT THE ENDIN'S THE SAME???||

||EVEN IF I BEAT IT IT STILL TAKES UNDYNE??||

[old bramble]

||but now you got one cool ass sword||

[north jetty]

From Shayy's Ch4 Snowgrave stream

[shrewd dove]

||BUT LESBIAN FESH! ;O;||

[old bramble]

Speaking of chapter 4 btw i got a question about the weird route
||Does anyone know if it's like. Intuitive to do on your own? Or do I need to follow a google doc for this||

[north jetty]

Easy to intuite

[old bramble]

Awesome

||I had a feeling ch 2 would be the tricky one to figure out and the rest would just kinda fall into place lol||

[north jetty]

||There's a couple mini interactions that add to it you might miss, but you don't need them to stay in the route||

[shrewd dove]

CH3 HOLY-

THAT ENDING

[north jetty]

Yup

[old bramble]

Random question about these chapters as a whole btw
||Anyone know wtf is up with ralsei's mouth disappearing sometimes? Is he hiding it in his scarf?||

[fathom canopy]

||Its Gaster. he takes his mouth sometimes because he is the knight||

[old bramble]

TRUE??

[fathom canopy]

||I never actually noticed this with ralsei tho||

chapter 4 beginning and end spoilers
||This chapter really goes from "haha amongus ding ding ding ding ding ding ding" on the beginning to "ralsei you have fucking blood in your face" at the end what the fuck was this||

[inland dagger]

||i mean the chapter as a whole goes from 0 to 11 the moment you touch that guitar||

[fathom canopy]

||It's very, very hard for a story to manage having such wildly different tones kinda of coexisting and going back and forth with em, but I think Toby manages to achieve it||

||chapter 1 and 2 are saturday morning adventures, chapter 3 first poses as another but then transitions into a serious plot, and chapter 4 is a direct continuation of that. I do hope we get some glimpses of sunshine and it's not all super grim and serious in the next chapter tho||

[old bramble]

chapter 3 question
||how feasible is hitting a z rank or is it just easier to go for s||

[fathom canopy]

||might be easier to go for s honestly||

[final tendon]

||is z rank getting no points at all||

[old bramble]

early chapter 3
HUH?????

||WHY IS IT 5 NOW||

hmm is this a reference to ||the ice key now that i've seen it?||

||wait no i found a key i've never seen before wtf||

||tried to fight lanino and elnina with violence. Lol (they're bulky af)||

[gloomy onyx]

Guys Guys

IDK if anyone mentioned this

(Presumably when you Start Chapter 3 or 4 without beating prior chapters)
||Check the "hole" on the leftward outside area in Castle Town...||

||You're just handed shadow crystals and gear from the secret bosses||!!

What does the game mean by this

[round olive]

That’s been a thing since chapter 2

[gloomy onyx]

?!

The ruck

[north jetty]

That is... so weird

[round olive]

Yup, I wasn’t sure if they kept it or not though

[north jetty]

I guess it's so anyone who skips chapters or doesn't transfer saves

Can still access... whatever they're needed for

[round olive]

Hopefully chapter 5 works the same way considering how easily missable Chapter 3’s shadow crystal is

But yeah, you have to beat the secret boss in another file first for it to happen

[north jetty]

Ohh

I guess that also saves time on Snowgrave routes, does it not?

You don't have to refight any secret bosses

Or does it not count like that?

[round olive]

This is what the wiki says. Nothing about chapter 3 or 4 yet though.

I remember people covering it way back when mostly

[balmy bridge]

They moved to deltarune.wiki

[gloomy onyx]

...

Oh shir

oh shit

[round olive]

Will look for that version next time

[gloomy onyx]

Only know of this TODAY because my bro was playing chapters 3 and 4

...I accidentally had Steam Cloud on, so when I downloaded Deltarune... data from my PC carried over onto his

[balmy bridge]

[gloomy onyx]

(overwriting his stuff but he was on CH1 so he didn't care)

[balmy bridge]

lmfao

[gloomy onyx]

He was on jevil too

[balmy bridge]

o h .

[gloomy onyx]

He didn't care

[balmy bridge]

The way you're saying it makes it look like he actually cares

[gloomy onyx]

no i care

[balmy bridge]

Chapter 3

[round olive]

||They turned her into Plot Device, funniest shit I’ve ever seen.||

Chapter 4 Castle Town
||ngl, Lancer calling King Papa was really cute lol||

[final tendon]

chapter 4 final boss spoilers

[balmy bridge]

Chapter 4

you will get the joke later for those who haven't played it yet.

[round olive]

Chapter 3 secret boss

||Finally beat the damn Knight. Definitely the hardest UT/DR Boss since Sans IMO, and I’m sure it’ll be much harder to master as well.||

[balmy bridge]

Augh, I want to ||see the vessel return...||

[opal pumice]

||hey cool drink||

[old bramble]

chapter 3 secret boss
||actually beat it first attempt of this weird route file (my second run of chapter 3) - so yay not bad for me||

[round olive]

||How much of a difference does the extra health make?||

[old bramble]

||Felt like my guys weren't dying quite as much - though a big part of that is just being a little more familiar with the attacks (and how liberal I've been using deluxedinners lol). You could argue it gets counteracted by not having access to jevilstail and dealmaker though (though the reduced cost on rude buster from devilsknife is handy)||

[round olive]

||Nice, honestly I went with Jevilsknife on my pacifist save so the idea of fighting the Knight without the Rude Buster bonus sounds scary lol||

[old bramble]

||Lmao fair yeah - honestly my runthrough with devilstail wasn't too much worse - usually just means kris has to defend more||

[opal pumice]

by the way ||was there a smorgasbord 3?||

||the 'water fire and air' fight in the secret hallway of the 3rd sanctuary is pretty much smorgasbord 4 so i was curious||

[old bramble]

this is my favorite npc in the whole game (ch4)

[old bramble]

hmm can't remember...

[opal pumice]

||wait how do you get him there||

[old bramble]

||think it's weird route exclusive for some reason||

[opal pumice]

gotcha

i think i'll actually have to do a weird route run at some point

[old bramble]

OH FUCK

CH 4 weird route (early)
||BERDLY'S IN THE HOSPITAL?!?!?!?||

[opal pumice]

now that ||the game actually gives hints as to its existence (well after the point it can be initiated it should be noted) i'll take that as the game telling me that it is, in fact, an experience it's intending me to have at some point||

||unlike genocide, which undertale went out of its way to discourage any player from pursuing it||

[old bramble]

||interesting little change in|| early chapter 4 dialogue in the weird route

Ch 4 character thoughts
||Bratty is a bad person||

[gloomy onyx]

psst

IDK if anyone's mentioned it...

Or at least here, but...

(Chapter 4)
||Have you considered only breaking Berdley's Arm a couple chapters ago?||

(Continuation of above)
||https://x.com/_trueface/status/1930748013103784429||

[opal pumice]

thought had occured to me

the first major miniboss encounter in the game is against c. round, who was a boss that healed itself to full if you tried to fight it violently

||the final boss of the first half of the game has a similar moment that's played a lot more seriously||

it's like poetry, it rhymes

actually wait typing that out ||i just realized you defeat the titan with a throw prompt with susie, and the first throw prompt in the game is during the rematch with c. round too||

[pearl bridge]

Interesting detail (Chapter 3 final boss)
||Apparently Kris' attacking power is initially kneecapped during the knight fight but it goes up if Susie and Ralsei go down||

||[Little Sponge] you continue to confuse and frighten me||

[unique phoenix]

hiiii its me here again - im redoing ch3
just got ||the Shelter Key. Do I need to be looking out for something specific?||

Lemme guess ||- I just have to come back after the bonus round?||

[inland dagger]

||pretty much yeah||

ch3 ||wait did the spamton sweepstakes actually mention Raise Up Your Bat as a song in universe before?||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 ||https://fxtwitter.com/jojoton56/status/1931251712255197220?t=jKaQrWW_sLO32rSiSlTIqA&s=19 genuinely one of the coolest things ever||

Jojoton56 (@jojoton56)

@playcentermd It's so funny

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[pearl bridge]

||FRIEND INSIDE MIKE||

[honest nest]

||https://youtu.be/k4G7qdSyUd0?si=gE51AIr95BqqQiHf|| someone has already started a "beating [chapter 3 secret boss] (||without shadow mantle||) every day until chapter 5 releases" challenge. wow

[silent dock]

I KNOW WHO PLUEY IS

[honest nest]

speaking of the chapter 3 secret boss, ||OMG I JUST REALIZED THEY PROBABLY DON'T PUT KRIS ON -999 HP BECAUSE THEY'RE SECRETLY WORKING TOGETHER OR WHATEVER IT IS. i thought it was just cause i gave them the shadow mantle on my first attempts at the fight lol||

[silent dock]

should probably also mention that contains chapter 4 spoilers

but yeah

[unique phoenix]

||damn this zelda boss is a toughie||

[inland dagger]

||well at least this person knows roughly how long theyll be doing it||

also just asking this again ch4 ||is the fact that chapter 5 was revealed to be next year considered a spoiler||

||and should we even be tagging it||

[silent dock]

||also susie gets "battered and broken", ralsei gets "turned into a pile of fluff", but kris? they just "kneel silently"... like kneeling before their master or something||
||they're also the only one the knight doesn't swoon at the end of the secret boss fight, instead they just make them kneel||
so yeah, already in chapter 3 there's things pointing to that

[honest nest]

yeah that second bit is what i was referring to

[unique phoenix]

anyone got tips for ||this boss|| or is just a matter of locking in

[inland dagger]

honestly the only tip i can suggest is locking in yeah 😭

[unique phoenix]

fair xd

got it

[inland dagger]

ch3 ||apparently the bonus board is actually mostly finished and playable https://youtu.be/rDbdFVZLpgI?si=SyjmwtAtX_KSh4ZW||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 ||https://youtu.be/ua1Znu9lNzs?si=uZc4Xf3rMR9ZKcRE man this is so cool||

[unique phoenix]

ch3 ending question ||okay so how do i "beat" the roaring knight.||

||is it just a matter of surviving an X amount of turns or do i have to reduce its HP a certain amount||

[pearl bridge]

||You need to attack it||

[unique phoenix]

aw shiet

[pearl bridge]

||Give Susie the Mantle so she can rude buster as much as she can||

[unique phoenix]

bit late for that

||retries start at the start of the fight||

||ofc, i could just reset the game itself||

[pearl bridge]

||Who did you give the mantle to?||

[unique phoenix]

||Kris||

[pearl bridge]

||Yeah idk if you've noticed but Kris' damage gets handicapped until Ralsei and Susie go down.||

[unique phoenix]

||huh! neat||

[honest nest]

||if you went back to the save point after beating tenna you can close and reopen the game and then give the mantle to susie (if you didn't save there you probably have to redo the tenna fight though)||

[unique phoenix]

i did, i think i might do that

[honest nest]

definitely, ||when i did that i beat the boss on my second try lol||

anyway does anyone have a spoiler-free guide on the weird route in chapter 3 and 4 (||if 3 even has one||)

[pearl bridge]

||In 4, when Kris throws you out of their body, go to the vent at Noelle's room||
||3 has weird route specific dialogue but idk how necessary it is||

[honest nest]

alright so ||no chapter 3 weird route
guess i'll just fight everything and probably get the shadow mantle||

[pearl bridge]

||It'd be weird to not do the weird route game...in the weird route||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 ||https://fxtwitter.com/YouNotGonnaWin/status/1931110900519600459 this seems pretty believable||

gamesing (@YouNotGonnaWin)

#deltarunespoilers what i think is happening with the knight

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[unique phoenix]

doing that

[honest nest]

yeah lol

[unique phoenix]

||i have to do 1000 damage dont i||

[silent dock]

no idea

||it's a certain amount||

[honest nest]

||you have to take about 25% of their hp
according to the deltarune wiki they have 7300 hp
soo that's about 1825 damage you need to deal i guess? but honestly it seemed lower to me||

[unique phoenix]

||so 25%||

[honest nest]

yeah i mistyped lol

[honest nest]

chapter 3 secret ||oh my god the ball machine has a hint to the egg room??||

[silent dock]

dang

[honest nest]

thank you toby fox

chapter 3 ||is there a list of all items you can get from the ball machine yet?||

[unique phoenix]

||fuuck i was really close||

[calm carbon]

Chapter 3 question. Doing act only and uhhh I got || s-rank on the first game and played this secret game in the back. Was I supposed to kill the enemies for this key? ||

[honest nest]

yes

||it's not morally wrong to kill these enemies, they're just video game characters! smh||

[inland dagger]

chapter 4 secret boss ||https://youtu.be/tHGOMcujK4E?si=-mxjxKCXgVZM8-dc||

||turns out gerson has extra attacks and dialog if you make absolutely zero progress on his "mercy" meter and just defend the whole time||

[honest nest]

interesting

[unique phoenix]

||am i just bad at video games (yes)||

[honest nest]

||don't worry it's really difficult lol. probably definitely the hardest secret boss so far||

||I HAVETH NOTHING.||

[nimble jetty]

||I need an oc like this||

[honest nest]

chapter 3 ||uh what's this referring to||

mitosis

[nimble jetty]

How did ||you get susie to 205 HP||

[calm carbon]

Ok so another question. Will I eventually still be able to do whatever secrets are in this chapter (3) if || I don't get S-rank on the game show rounds ||

[inland dagger]

||ive heard you can buy your way into the s rank rooms but idk how or what npc youd talk to do that||

[calm carbon]

Figured it out thanks 🔥

[split elbow]

chapter 3 secret boss
||so i redid the knight fight with my weird route file from chapter 2 and like i did it first try 😭||

[split elbow]

time for chapter 4 weird route

oh boy

[unique phoenix]

||how 😭 ||

||is it a question of equipment cuz my weapons might just be shite||

[pearl bridge]

Chapter 4, around the middle
||When Susie creates the dark fountain, her eyes glow like how Kris' do in chapters 1 and 2||

||I have no idea what this means for Kris' eyes||

[unique phoenix]

||I do like 110 damage per rude buster is that bad||

[inland dagger]

||wait does this mean thats just, how eyes glow when someone makes a dark fountain or intends to?||

[pearl bridge]

||Maybe its like a determination thing...but this also kinda implies Kris made the Computer dark fountain which...lmfao if true||

[unique phoenix]

||getting a new axe puts it up to ~140, which does cut the math down quite a few turns. still, i'll be trying this another day||

[nimble jetty]

oh i love him

[fathom canopy]

He's awesome

[honest nest]

top 10 deltarune character for sure

[final tendon]

ch4
we all know who the top 1 is..

[honest nest]

||your*||

[inland dagger]

||ngl he genuinely scared me initially when the first one happened||

[final tendon]

||do you think he was a reference to the "youre genocides" memes||

[safe abyss]

People found the entirety of ||board 3|| in the files almost completely finished (CHAPTER 3)

||And honestly it seems short enough compared to the other 2 that I don't see why it was cut||

[honest nest]

honestly might be possible

chapter 3 secret boss ||let's hope it doesn't take as many attempts this time now that i'm on my weird route save file and am a lot stronger||

[safe abyss]

||And when I say "almost completely finished" I mean literally everything except some optional NPCs work exactly as intended with unique dialogue||

[honest nest]

||i don't have nearly as many revivemints though which is NOT good||

[pearl bridge]

||Imagine if the Knight knew what we had done to Noelle||

[honest nest]

oh my god

||OH FOR FUCKS SAKE I DIED TO THE FUCKING HYPER GONER||

||THAT WAS SO CLOSE TO FIRST TRY THAT'S SO ANNOYING||

[balmy bridge]

You're getting fucked.

[silent dock]

||have you tried putting exactly 1225 points in it||

[honest nest]

yeah i saw a clip of that and just did it myself

[silent dock]

nice

[final tendon]

||oh no you can die to that||

[silent dock]

yeah it took me like 4 tries to survive it on my first run

[honest nest]

||alright back here||

[silent dock]

||I didn't know holding your breath was a permanent speed up, so I kept saving that action for just before, but kris was always downed||

[honest nest]

OH FOR FUCKS SAKE

[honest nest]

IT IS?????

thanks for telling me lol

[split elbow]

||idk 😭, i mean, devilsknife definitely helped due to better magic and less rude buster cost, but idk what happened, kris and ralsei were taking much less damage than my pacifist run file, well, not entirely, it just seems like the knight started doing their "swoon" attacks latter than usual, and also their attack patterns were different||

[alpine dawn]

I counted ||15 turns with Knigt will attacking it...on the 16th and last turn you need to attack not matter what or is game over||

My strat was ||bouncing blade on kris to give it more dwfense, shadoe mantle on susie and devilknife too attack with rudebuster, ralsie supporr....keep defending as kris and ralsei and attack the knight as susie...get max heal when the narrow swords attack is happening||

[honest nest]

||literally full health. there is NO way i die a third time.||

||...i only got hit twice lol. guess i just had to lock in (and hold my breath to move faster)||

||chapter 3 preparation for chapter 4 weird route complete||

[safe abyss]

Apparently all of the ||content in Mike's room|| is different in the Switch 2 version
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpeK2RVQvrk||

[silent dock]

ah, so that's the exclusive content for switch 2

[honest nest]

oh wow so it IS ||the part from the trailer. guess it makes sense they cut it out of the trailers for other platforms then||

chapter 4 weird route ||LMAOOO NO FUCKING WAY THEY ACTUALLY JUST NAMERDROP IT. LIKE TOBY DOES NOT WANT PEOPLE CALLING IT THE SNOWGRAVE ROUTE INSTEAD OF THE WEIRD ROUTE||

[pearl bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/cell-writing-blackbeard-writing-gif-5728066505004548744

[honest nest]

thank you ||susie deltarune for confirming the name||

||now we wait until the deltarune wiki changes it (unless it already did, idk i haven't checked it to avoid spoilers obviously lol)||

[safe abyss]

||This confirms those are the MINIGAME names, and not the character ones, in case anyone was still wondering||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 ||BEHOLD, THE POWER OF THE DOUBLE TWIN RIBBON (or twin twin ribbon)||

[silent dock]

YES SAME

and add the uh whatsit

||tension bow||

||then it's TP galore||

[safe abyss]

||Toby should add the ability to fuse 2 Twin Ribbons too||

[silent dock]

||quadruplet ribbon||

[safe abyss]

||Chapter 7 has the Octuplet Ribbon which covers the entire bullet box||

[honest nest]

some castle town dialogue if you don't recruit enough darkners

oh my god (chapter 4 weird route)

[silent dock]

oh my god I didn't check that???

[pearl bridge]

||Its like hes in some kind of SNOWGRAVE||

[silent dock]

what's the dialogue

[calm furnace]

||Unplug Berdly?
Yes ❤️

No||

[balmy bridge]

While ||I understand that Toby changed/removed the rose during that scene with EVIL RED DOT||

[balmy bridge]

I think a better way ||to represent the scene is by making the petals colors change to darker color||

[calm furnace]

||Ultimately yeah but it was a hotfix so they likely didnt have time to make an elaborate new animation. Just had to push something out to get it replaced as soon as possible||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 weird route
||welp. here we go again||

[silent dock]

||I messed up at this part, accidentaly aborted the weird route (heard the abort jingle) and had to restart||

[honest nest]

i did the same thing lol

||but i got a guide. that for some reason misgenders kris. but it's literally the only one i could find||

||this is fucking insane lol||

[feral pawn]

song ||i love the version of rude buster that plays during the elnina and lanino fight bro||

||its so groovy probably my favourite new song||

||and tenna's boss fight theme is growing on me. love how it starts pretty up beat then gets intense then goes right back to full happy||

[silent dock]

yess ||ruder buster||

[feral pawn]

||tobiathan fox cooked||

[pearl bridge]

||This scene and the next is so fucked oml||

[covert nest]

||do you ever wanna do the normal route but realise that all your good items and weapons are in the weird route and you cant be asked to replay the game (and that dang knight boss) so you gotta finish the weird route first...||

[calm furnace]

||Even the one afterwards where you aren’t even given an option to talk back to Susie. ||

[covert nest]

||WAIT I JUST REALISED THATS KRIS' HAIR, I THOUGHT THEIR HEAD TURNED INTO A SPIKEY PILE OF LIKE PINK SLUDGE||

[silent dock]

chapter 4
||anyone know how to reach this guy?||

[pearl bridge]

||Piles of Kris's sludge||

[honest nest]

||oh crap i just remembered saw that but immediately forgot about it||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 ||WAIT THESE THINGS ARE FUCKING TITAN SPAWNS WHAT THE HELL||

||you can see their outline, it's the exact same||

[nimble jetty]

easy ||tension gem goated||

I love him omg

[round olive]

||https://www.rxddit.com/r/Deltarune/s/tWSOoRPvO4||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 secret boss FIRST TRY BABY

[silent dock]

NICE

oh god

chapter 4 post weird route ||I chose "pray for noelle" at the hope candles thing||

[inland dagger]

||after the nightmare that was attempting the knight, gerson felt piss easy||

||still died to him a few times but like, his attacks feel far more managable than the knight||

[silent dock]

my cousin described it as an "abyssal difference in difficulty"

[inland dagger]

yeah

that sounds about right

[unique copper]

||wait how hard actually is the knight to fight||

[inland dagger]

||very.||

||the hardest among the 4 secret bosses so far for sure||

[round olive]

||Average Undertale Fan game||

[unique copper]

||oh alr

I fought Gerson and his fight was essentially a muscle memory test||

[shrewd dove]

so uh...

i tried to open chapter 4

||and the game crashes when susie tells kris to wake up||

[silent dock]

chapter 4
||put 5000 D$ in the fountain to see if it would give me anything better than a revivemint, and BOY did it deliver||

[silent dock]

better report that huh

[honest nest]

chapter 4 ||so apparently the big blue piano has a bunch more easter eggs instead of just megalovania||

[shrewd dove]

im trying it again and if it crashes i shall tell mister toby fax

[silent dock]

||do they all trigger the same thing as megalovania?||

chapter 3

[honest nest]

||they all have unique dialogue
i'll probably post it later||

||like, ralsei calls your best friend "friendly and sweet"||

[unique copper]

||yo could you lmk when you do? That sounds super interesting to know what the dialogue says lol||

[nimble jetty]

YOOOOOOO (CH4 SECRET)

[honest nest]

ofc

[shrewd dove]

went the email

cuz i cant start ch.4 ;o;

@gloomy onyx so uh..question? ||the HP of the characters goes back to normal right? or do i have to edit them again just to be sure||

[gloomy onyx]

||HP resets next chapter, don't worry...||

Now I'm curious... what did you do??

[honest nest]

chapter 4 ||lol when you jump to the piano in the second sanctuary kris and susie's ball forms have the regular color palettes||

[nimble jetty]

Imma be honest

||the chapter 4 secret boss is really hard||

[safe abyss]

OHHHH THIS WAS A REFERENCE TO THAT ONE CHAPTER 3 LINE THIS ENTIRE TIME

[shrewd dove]

||before knowing the spamton editor existed i tried to edit them manually with notepad plus following a guide...||

[gloomy onyx]

Ahhhh.... Yeah no I hope you backed up the correct save files before going ahead with that

[shrewd dove]

||i did put everything the way it was before going to the soamton editor tho||

[gloomy onyx]

-# Wait why am I spoiler tagging these...

[shrewd dove]

I sent an email cuz it may as well be a bug however..

[gloomy onyx]

Deltarune's file system is so darn confusing... like there's 2 versions of the same file... and all the "data" is just unlabeled numbers... hope you didn't by chance change some important numbers or anything...

[shrewd dove]

Imay have to check, most of them were at 0

[nimble jetty]

alright im doing better

chapter 4 spoilers ||lowkey. this hammer os justice fight might be my favorite fight in the entire game so far||

ASND THE MUSIC TOO? ||THE BATTLE AGAINST A TRUE HERO REMIX IS INSANE||

chapter 3 theorizing ||I think this goes to show how closely Tenna and Spamton are related. that and "holy cowabunga-dero!" mixed with "holy cungadero!"||

[gloomy onyx]

(Chapter 4 ||Secret Boss|| be like)
Doing it, doing it, doing it well!
Doing it, doing it, doing it well!
Doing it, doing it, doing it well!
I represent ||Susie's Healing Spell||!
❇️
AUGH, AUGHH, AAAAAAAAA-

[nimble jetty]

it all goes downhill once ||the first healing spell is used||

but ||hammer dude is so cool||

[gloomy onyx]

Psst

pstt

||Healing Spell gets better per use||

[nimble jetty]

this is the coolest take I've ever seen on the ||fast turtle trope|| (chapter 4 secret boss)

[nimble jetty]

i figured but

wowie...

[gloomy onyx]

||Try practicing it some more after the spooky fight... if ya ever considered replaying the chapter later...||
|| Saves you the need to build up 80% TP||

[pliant loom]

||yeah her healing actually gets ok which honestly is a really cool bit of character development through gameplay ||

[gloomy onyx]

||Or just... use it on some of the enemies RN...||

[nimble jetty]

So…

||should I go fight enemies with OKheal and then challenge gerson again?||

[honest nest]

(i don't think spoilering the word "secret" is very necessary lol)

[pliant loom]

Same

[silent dock]

the two same files thing is because one of them is the completion file

which is important to have, because regular save files only take into account everything that's happened up until the moment you save

so if you were to get an item or something after saving, if a completion file wasn't made, it wouldn't transfer to the next chapter

[honest nest]

(very late chapter 4) man this sequence is so fucking good

[silent dock]

yoo I just did that

[honest nest]

speaking of incredible sequences at the end of chapter 4
||this part probably takes up like 90% of the game's sprite sheets LMAO||

[silent dock]

we're both doing post weird route right? it's a race to the end at this point

[round olive]

||So is having the thorn ring necessary|| to continue the weird route in chapter 4?

[honest nest]

||not post weird route, just still the route. it's just that aside from 1 scene this chapter's dark worlds aren't changed||

||how the fuck did they do this in a 2d game||

[silent dock]

||yeah but I like to describe it that way so I don't spoil whether it's got any changes or not||

[round olive]

Or is it sorta just an extra thing you can do like wearing Noelle’s watch?

[opal pumice]

a thing i just thought that was neat

[honest nest]

||i don't really think it would make a difference but fair enough||

||ralsei just randomly hovering for his running animation||

[opal pumice]

susie has at multiple points in this game given you a choice that she promptly cuts off before you could make a decision

which ||in light of very recent events is a rather interesting pattern||

[molten sigil]

gotta say

chapter 4 ||why does the titan look like a real human guy at first||?

[pearl bridge]

||My name is Edwin||

[opal pumice]

||probably just to make the scene more unsettling||

[silent dock]

chapter 4 end
||wonder why we can wait here?||

[round olive]

Kinda want to know before redoing 3 and 4 for weird route.

[silent dock]

||you can't have it if you completed the chapter 2 weird route||

[honest nest]

||no clue lol, it's the first thing i thought too
might fit into player = angel theory somehow||

[honest nest]

mentally preparing

[honest nest]

||i guess it might just be a coincidence because of the outline lol||

[silent dock]

chapter 4
AYO

||THE DEATH ANIMATION IS USED||

||did that damage thanks to black shard being equipped on kris||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 final boss ||WAIT OH MY GOD KRIS'S BLACK KNIFE DOES SO MUCH DAMAGE AGAINST THE TITAN BECAUSE IT DOES EXTRA DAMAGE AGAINST "DARK" TYPE ENEMIES||

[honest nest]

lol we're noticing the exact same things

||except i didn't notice the damage until just now lol||

||might be the strongest attack in the game (besides snowgrave maybe)||

||wow that was short lol||

||damn if you try to ignore susie's idea and keep fighting with the massive black shard damage it just heals back 10k hp||

[nimble jetty]

Okay yeah I gotta take a small break before I reattempt the chapter 4 secret boss

Dont wanna burn myself out

[opal pumice]

like i said a while back

[silent dock]

OH

chapter 4 ending
||what ralsei says about the prophecy's ending changes quite a bit in weird route||

[honest nest]

||wait it is???||

||i skipped through that, shit, what does he say||

[silent dock]

||it changes after he says "I want to believe there isn't just one ending"
he starts saying something like "but what would that even be? and how do we know it wouldn't be something even worse?"||

[honest nest]

||oh shit.||

||oooooooooooooooh shit.||

||WEIRD ROUTE HAS A DIFFERENT FUCKING ENDING CONFIRMED||

[honest nest]

anyway now i shall do this

[molten sigil]

chapter 4 weird route ending spoilers
||iirc the weird route also hard confirms that the phone voice is carol||

||when the phone person calls kris at the end of the chapter, it's normal text instead of creepy shadow text, and it uses carol's talking soundbyte||

[opal pumice]

y'know i thought the 'man behind the egg' stuff was just a silly easter egg thing

[honest nest]

...not even gonna post screenshots of this
please anyone who completed chapter 4 do this and see for yourself

[opal pumice]

but seeing ||ch 3 and 4's egg sequences make me think that whole sidequest is gonna build up to showing something regarding kris' past?||

what does ||egg man say regarding his schedule againin||

||i got 'donut on thursday' (the tree room in ch 1 is between the starwalker room and the ring-shaped room) and 'throw it out the next day' (in ch 2 it's between the freeway and the dumpster)||

[silent dock]

||on saturday he lets it cool on the windowsill||

[honest nest]

oh crap you might be onto something

[silent dock]

||which does line up with where you find the chapter 4 egg, although I won't say more||

||on sunday he harvests the wheat||

[honest nest]

frmo the deltarune wiki:
||On Thursday, he goes to sell the donuts.
On Friday, he tosses the leftovers in the dumpster.
On Saturday, he lets it cool on the windowsill.
On Sunday, he harvests the wheat.
Hold your breath, head to the left, and count backwards to 100.||

[silent dock]

chapter 4 secret boss
||come to think of it, doesn't gerson mention a field in chapter 5?||

[honest nest]

so much to theorize about

[silent dock]

chapter 4 end
||also, didn't realise there was actually dialogue here||

[honest nest]

BRUH

||how much do you have to wait 😭||

anyway
looks like i'm now completely spoiler-free for the game (except like minor dialogue differences probably but i wasn't gonna spend time finding those on my own anyway)

[silent dock]

a WHILE

[honest nest]

||is there any more dialogue||

[silent dock]

yeah

[pearl bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-bro-muscle-man-regular-show-oh-no-bro-gif-25502455

[opal pumice]

yeah, ||gerson tells us that the fifth chapter of lord of the hammer (his best-selling fantasy series that is also his reimagining of the deltarune prophecy) is 'the field of pink and gold', where 'the vast garden is charred in an inferno of jealousy'||

[pearl bridge]

||I dont think Kris will be able to live with themselves after what we're gonna do to Noelle bro what the fuck is going to happen in chs 5-7||

[opal pumice]

that ||combined with one of the prophecies in the third sanctuary of 'the flower man trapped in asylum', and the missable sequence with asgore in carol and rudy's room in the holiday mansion, has led a lot of people to believe chapter 5's dark world will be in flower king||

[alpine dawn]

funny you mention this...CH3 AND 4 spoilers ||in the sword route on the last dungeon, there is a room where a monsters is out of reach, but flower monsters are attacking you, if you kill the flowers, a bridge from to get to the monster....yet the monster suddenly moves incredibly fast towards kris....is quite scary....i think this is foreshadow for CH5 weird route with asgore||

[gloomy onyx]

(Chapter Select Screen)
Huh...

Why is the spacing so odd

...no... no I... I got everything... right?!

[opal pumice]

i think that just means you have a completed file 1 and 3

[gloomy onyx]

?!

[silent dock]

yeah

[opal pumice]

stars just indicate completed file slots

[silent dock]

you did it on save file 1 and save file 3, that's all

[gloomy onyx]

Really?!

I thought this was some sorta ranking system

[opal pumice]

nah

[silent dock]

nope

[gloomy onyx]

...

[silent dock]

also means you never got the the end on save file 3 in the first two chapters

[gloomy onyx]

Well TBF File 3 is my replay

It continues from one of the files from chapter 2

We do not discuss what goes on in File 2

[opal pumice]

well that explains that

finish your file 2 run then and that should fill up that space

[gloomy onyx]

Nah

[molten sigil]

oh my god

[gloomy onyx]

Imma do my own thing

[molten sigil]

i think i get (egg) ||who the egg man is||

[gloomy onyx]

(or just the same exact thing I was doing but better)

[molten sigil]

i think ||it's a piece of gaster||

[gloomy onyx]

The stars on the files are still super misleading because like... well on account on my experience w/ Kirby games... that would've implied I found everything important, and not that I just beat the chapter...

[molten sigil]

||https://fxtwitter.com/cellbotHQ/status/1922153679857107209 ||

celly ໒꒱ ‧₊˚ | fell into deltarune h”e”llhole (@cellbo...

oh my god chat am i onto something here

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FxTwitter · May 13, 2025, 4:55 AM

[silent dock]

well it's been like this since the LTS update

[molten sigil]

||the egg man namedrops deltarune (having meta knowledge like the intro speaker) and is pretty jovial, like the weird valentine's day card||

||and he only ever appears in places that are extremely obscure to get to, and are deemed as "forgotten" places||

[honest nest]

chapter 3 ending ||https://fxtwitter.com/wandydoodles/status/1931400074317226348||

alex !!! DELTARUNE SPOILERS (@wandydoodles)

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FxTwitter · Jun 7, 2025, 5:17 PM

[silent dock]

||gonna go ahead and say "absolutely not" to this part||

[gloomy onyx]

Ah, confident statements without elaboration

[silent dock]

hm? what should I be looking at?

[gloomy onyx]

Truly a weakpoint of a theory

[silent dock]

OH WAIT

lmao

I get it

[honest nest]

chapter 4 ||https://www.rxddit.com/r/Deltarune/comments/1l5ej2s/i_dont_see_many_people_talking_about_this_scene/ NO FUCKING WAY I MISSED THIS SCENE???||

[silent dock]

yeah I saw that one

[gloomy onyx]

Shyren ||N'or her agent may be a gaster as that... cracked theory goes... But you know who's an agent||?
HER MOM!!! ||Noelle's mom, not-||

[honest nest]

chapter 3 secret boss ||https://fxtwitter.com/DarkWorldz95/status/1931395135100600803|| i like this idea

Cast (@DarkWorldz95)

deltarune spoilers but
︀︀my theory / headcanon with ramb was that he was supposed to be the actual secret boss in some way due to his talks of freedom and just being kind of weird, but since kris made the fountain and not the knight he was never given an actual shadowcrystal

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FxTwitter · Jun 7, 2025, 4:57 PM

[silent dock]

interesting actually

[molten sigil]

ig ||the shadow crystal does something to the people who have it||?

[silent dock]

chapter 4 midway point scene
|| https://fixupx.com/luzsrealm/status/1931143484544823776 ||

nico ✿ DELTARUNE SPOILERS (@luzsrealm)

#deltarunespoilers
︀︀
︀︀havent seen much talk about this scene but is so sad how kris basically resolves to self harm to keep the player from saying something hurtful and it makes me wonder if they'll be willing to do more extreme actions in future chapters..

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FixupX · Jun 7, 2025, 12:17 AM

||I'm really glad I didn't pick that option||

[honest nest]

||i kinda noticed their secret boss-ness too|| (see this is why i like having these tweets so i can re-see my reactions to everything)

[honest nest]

(replying to this)

[alpine dawn]

||im glad im trying to get along with kris...choosing the most susiecore answers i can ....also being kind enough to Ralsei without being creepy||

[honest nest]

||chapter 4 handles separating kris from the player so fucking well||

[pliant loom]

||I honestly think the prophecy that upset Susie might be Kris betraying the group and the soul goes to the vessel || chapter 4

||the way it described the human as a cage is interesting ||

[molten sigil]

||wouldn't susie have talked to kris directly about it if that were the case||?

[alpine dawn]

ch4 ||i read it like, the heroes werent meant to be were kris and susie actually....ralsei was made on purpose to be the prince of the dark to help. There is another girl, and she is the tradegy will happend in order to save the world||

[nimble jetty]

(ch 4 secret boss) dude I think I need to skip this fight

[pearl bridge]

||Lock the fuck in||

[molten sigil]

if i had to guess, ||noelle's gonna get destroyed in some way||

it'd also explain ||why all the snowgrave route options pertain to specifically her||

[nimble jetty]

||I'm locking tf but I keep coming up short||

[silent dock]

lock in HARDER

[nimble jetty]

IM TRYING

RAHHHHHH

[pliant loom]

||also I think there will be more than one ending ||

[nimble jetty]

btw even if I dont win

this is still

the most fun boss fight i've ever had

[silent dock]

right??? I love it so much

[nimble jetty]

YEAH

||gerson my goat||

Im not even halfway through the chapter and this is so peak

GOGOGOG (LATE CH4)

[pearl bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/jjba-polnareff-stairs-dio-loop-gif-2767463883889072134

[honest nest]

||https://fxtwitter.com/Imoffline9/status/1931388335433437440 OH LORD THE GAME HAS A KILL COUNTER||

Banana_duck (@Imoffline9)

@the_real_tortas You also get this in the power tab after

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FxTwitter · Jun 7, 2025, 4:30 PM

[nimble jetty]

Late chapter four ||INSANE LORE||

[honest nest]

"||insane lore||" is an accurate description of the whole chapter

[pliant loom]

||who are the kills?||

[honest nest]

||the titan spawns (mentioned in the tweet it's replying to which doesn't show in the embed lol)||

[pliant loom]

Ooooooh

[split elbow]

i did it

I DID IT