Deltarune Ch3&4 Spoiler Thread

[old bramble]

||I HAD DEALMAKER OMG||
sad I missed it but I'm def not going back 😭

[split wagon]

it was pretty hard to spot dw :')

[safe abyss]

||Honestly I am very glad the people who kept saying they wanted the chapters released seperately didn't get what they wanted||

||If either of these chapters released alone they would be so BORING||

[inland dagger]

chapter 3 secret boss
||i hate this thing i hate this thing i hate its fucking attacks||

[old bramble]

||The swords are fucking BULLSHIT I swear lol - I wish I had advice beyond just trying again and again until you get a run that does well enough||

[inland dagger]

||wait can anyone equip the shadow mantle or is it just kris||

[old bramble]

||I put it on susie personally - I know some ppl put it on kris and I did too at first||

[inland dagger]

||okay yknow what im just gonna guard on the turn the sword line attacks happen||

[old bramble]

Valid

ch 3
I'm checking the dr server and ||there's already disagreements being had about how bs this boss is - so dw you're not alone in the struggles here lol||

[inland dagger]

is it a bit much to hope it gets nerfed

[old bramble]

Nah I've seen people call for it too

[inland dagger]

because it feels like such a major jump in difficulty from like, everything before

[balmy bridge]

||Susie and Ralsei are the only ones who instantly get -999 HP the moment they get downed. Kris is downed normally unlike the other two.||

[old bramble]

I think not giving them ||red buster and dual heal is so weird because like. Why do they not have it for the most important fight so far||

[old bramble]

Ahh

[inland dagger]

like ||as a "boss youre meant to lose to" it definitely fits being this hard but as a boss you have to actually try to fight??||

[balmy bridge]

||Also...||

||The fuck did we do to Noelle in Chapter 4 weird route aftermath?||

[old bramble]

Please tag 😭

Thought that was ch3 lol

[balmy bridge]

oops

[balmy bridge]

Chapter 4

[inland dagger]

some fights did get rebalanced after release for chapter 1 and 2 didnt they?

[old bramble]

Honestly not sure o: wouldn't be surprised

[inland dagger]

honestly with how hard this fight is i kinda feel like just skipping it for now and just doing chapter 4

although then i have to redo chapter 4 later down the line when chapter 5 comes out

[old bramble]

Skipping is valid - esp if you missed stuff like ||egg||

[inland dagger]

like id have to make a fresh new chapter 4 save carried over from the chapter 3 file that did beat the secret boss

||wait does beating the knight give you anything besides the shadow crystal||

[old bramble]

||a weapon for kris||

[inland dagger]

damn

wait for the previous secret bosses it worked like this right
there is save data present for a beaten jevil
fresh new file made for chapter 2
you can get the shadow crystal from jevil in castle town but not his weapon or armor(?)

[timber spoke]

||it is really funny how people complained about geno bosses in UTY and then this happens, UTDR fangames with the gift of prophecy it feels like lmao||

[inland dagger]

||the knight's attacks do feel very "fan gamey" in a way i cant describe||

||i think its mainly they feel so much more, high quality compared to everything else?||

[opal pumice]

well seam did say the third crystal would be virtually impossible without the mantle

[inland dagger]

well he was definitely right

it just goes from virtually impossible to feeling slightly less impossible

[opal pumice]

||which he does state when you talk to him in the shop in chapter 4||

[inland dagger]

||oh so he does acknowledge it helps but just barely||

||i havent even opened chapter 4||

[opal pumice]

||he just goes 'yeah even with the mantle that's still rough, so no shame if you couldn't get that third one'||

[inland dagger]

||i do think its neat that we have the "you can actually beat this 'unbeatable' boss" trope but man||

[old bramble]

||Zenith Marlet.... 2!!!||

ch 3 ||I could legit see this thing getting a nerf but it remains to be seen. I think the sword hitboxes need to be toned down a little - you know the attack I'm talking about lol||

Also ||maybe make it more obvious that you're not aiming to deplete all of its hp - because that's gonna instantly demotivate players and susie's dialogue doesn't make it that clear. Maybe if she were like "If we can just hit you enough to weaken you" or smth? idk||

[gloomy onyx]

[CHAPTER 4... AFTER secret secret boss]

||HE'S FUCKING REAL... aaaaaaand doesn't even look like a lemon what the fuck||

Anyways So yeah, basically beaten chapter 4 RN!

(Nevermind that I did... something afterwards and saved... overwriting my "beaten" progress)

[split wagon]

ok i kind of just started chapter 4, but I got a question about chapter 3

||was there a secret boss similar to jevil and spamton?||

[gloomy onyx]

||Yes||

[split wagon]

||oooh ok||

[gloomy onyx]

However it's very... unconventional

[split wagon]

||dont actually spoil me on what happens!||

||just want to know haha||

||could I still get to it even from my final checkpoint?||

[gloomy onyx]

nope

this is what I was gonna talk about

[split wagon]

||I see i see||

||Thanks for letting me know though 👍||

||might find that out when i do a second "complete" playthrough||

anyways time to go back to playing chapter 4

[gloomy onyx]

||But to make it super non-spoilery DESPITE putting it under spoiler tags... Make sure to get S-rank for BOTH rounds... and... do what you gotta do for each time you get there||

[split wagon]

||ahh i figured||

[gloomy onyx]

With that being said, if you wan't the egg... you literally need a guide it's somehow SUPER cryptic, this one is...

[split wagon]

||an npc did say to me i should've s-ranked in the first round||

[gloomy onyx]

Oooh completely FORGOT to add, but you figured... gonna add it anyways:
|| The S-Rank Room, do what ya gotta do after each round ||

[split wagon]

[gloomy onyx]

Anyways checked some optional (what I won't bother doing RN) stuff for one of the chapters and...

Gonna be real with ya, I've seen things... Yet this unnerves me... That is all... cannot wait to experience this on my alternate file...

[balmy bridge]

||Player SOUL, what the fuck did you do to Noelle?||

[gloomy onyx]

||Yesterday, as I was taking the alternate route... I thought it was just metaphorical...||

||...They took it seriously||

||How much longer will this depravity go on for... and for what??||

[balmy bridge]

||We have an insane obsession for Noelle.||

||A very sick one.||

[gloomy onyx]

||Chapter 4 really just... has so much serious shit...||

[safe abyss]

I just watched some footage of the secret battle against ||Mike (Filler space so it isn't obvious what I wrote lmao)||

I loved it

||The fanbase kinda deserved that one i'll be honest lmao||

[opal pumice]

||where's the code for his room anyway||

[safe abyss]

||I don't know WHERE it is but allegedly the code is 6453||

[opal pumice]

there's something kinda sad about how ||tenna and spamton see each other as lying charlatans over what's ostensibly a misunderstanding born from forces outside of spamton's control||

[safe abyss]

Yeah

[opal pumice]

i haven't finished ch 4 yet but

so here's what we know have to be true about ||the knight - let's disregard carol's sus behavior and timing for now||
||has to be aware of the shelter and its purpose||
||has to be aware of said shelter's code-based security system||
||by extension, has to be connected to the three things said code is centered upon, that being: the church, the police, and the holidays||
||has to have had a strong connection with gerson boom to the point that he was actually brought back to life in their dark world||

[balmy bridge]

Weird Route

||Chapter 2 consequences on Chapter 4||

[opal pumice]

i would say ||carol is the most likely candidate to be the knight, except i'm unsure if the logistics would allow her to storm the church right after admonishing noelle and kicking everyone out of the holiday mansion||

[safe abyss]

||But genuinely it's the funniest thing||

||He probably WAS a reference to a soda commercial lmao||

[dusky comet]

Toby Fox haha funny interview part 2 || https://www.nintendo.com/jp/topics/article/9bb8ab8c-08db-470f-8478-ec42f7be1743||

[gloomy onyx]

Literally right there, not even SNEAKY either!

[silent dock]

WHAT

[pearl bridge]

(Chapter 3 final boss, meme)

[silent dock]

||TOBY, WHAT ARE YOU DOING||

||HOW META IS THIS GONNA GET||

I can't believe I found this on my own, extremely proud

I did it...

[silent dock]

||oh shit oh shit oh shit this is DIFFERENT||

[tawdry thunder]

Nah it's the Freeza pose

https://tenor.com/view/frieza-pose-menacing-dragonballfighterz-dragon-ball-fighterz-gif-27469236

[silent dock]

no, freeza is just a lesbian

[dusky comet]

||||

[silent dock]

||it's letting me fight the knight again...||

||I'm not getting one-shot anymore||

[safe abyss]

||Mike's battle theme is so GOOD|| (Early chapter 4 secret spoilers)

||It's all the best Spamton leitmotifs but JAZZIER||

||And I LOVE jazz||

[tawdry thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-raiden-senator-armstrong-source-gif-25038929

[inland dagger]

so (chapter 3 finale) ||after beating tenna but before the knight am i at all able to still exchange dark dollars into points||

||i honestly dont remember which vending machine allowed it||

||it was the machine right next to the "stage" sign right? but that one now only accepts dark dollars||

[honest nest]

it is now tomorrow which means it is time for more deltarune

time to ||actually try to find the chapter 3 secret boss and then play chapter 4||

[silent dock]

it's SO hard to find. took me replaying the chapter 3 times, all I can say is good luck

[honest nest]

yeah i don't really wanna do that so i got a spoiler free guide

oh no.

according to the guide it's correct though
still doesn't feel right considering the whole ||"we'll make you feel bad about killing monsters in a video game" thing that undertale does||

actually does anyone know if ||defeating the secret boss in 1 save file in chapter 3 gives you their item in every other save file where you didn't beat them? considering this was a thing with jevil in chapter 2||

if so that would be very nice

||unless you also need to beat the chapter for that to count||

[silent dock]

yeah but... ||this is like ADVANCED fiction. you're in the dark world, which is already more fictional than the light world to kris and co, plus it's a video game withine the game, so even more fictional||

[silent dock]

it does

[honest nest]

nice

[honest nest]

what about this

[honest nest]

||a game, within a "game", within a game. truly incredible||

||man i cannot find this final monster to get LV3||

oh nvm

this music is pretty good though

||you know this whole retro zelda-esque game thing kinda reminds me of the whole noelle ice palace thing||

||i murdered a penguin||

[silent dock]

||PENGUIN NOOOO||

[honest nest]

||https://tenor.com/view/kirby-nightmare-in-dreamland-whispy-gif-26004291|| somehow this gif is infinitely more fitting than i could've expected
||i mean he's even using a sword||

[silent dock]

I mean, wasn't that already the case?

[honest nest]

idk LOL

OH-

[honest nest]

I WASN'T SERIOUS-

i mean i did seriously believe that from the beginning but i didn't expect it to be literal

well then

bro what is this option lol

[nimble jetty]

cjapter 3 ||I’ve seen stuff about ranks, are they important for progression?||

[honest nest]

||no, but you do need them for something optional||

[safe abyss]

||Just leaving this here so people will know, but eventually there is an optional door with a code in Castle Town, DO NOT SEARCH FOR THE CODE AND TRY TO COME BACK LATER, YOU'LL MISS WHAT'S BEHIND IT||

(early chapter 4 btw, but I worded it in the most non-spoilery way possible since it's important information)

[honest nest]

fun chapter 3 fact: ||taking a picture of rouxls makes you lose 1 point||

[safe abyss]

I know who Pluey is by the way

[silent dock]

tell me just one thing, does it have anything to do with ||the zapper right near the end, who can take you "nowhere"? otherwise I'll just follow that guide||

[silent dock]

yoooooo

[safe abyss]

||If you go back into Mike's room after the boss fight the cat one is called "Pluey"|| (Chapter 4 secret)

[honest nest]

oh right i forgot about pluey
can't wait to see pluey

[safe abyss]

You will need to heed my "important information" to see them (It's up there)

[honest nest]

||second S rank|| obtained

[honest nest]

||does- does not EVERYONE get PLUEY for FREE!?!?! 😭😭😭😭😭||

[safe abyss]

||Pluey may be free, but they are hidden||

[inland dagger]

so like, would anyone know

[honest nest]

😭

[inland dagger]

||definitely not asking because the secret boss is kicking my ass ||

[honest nest]

||if i remember correctly you can just go back to save and stuff||

[silent dock]

you can't

[inland dagger]

...

im gonna cry bro

||i exchanged all my points to dollars already||

[silent dock]

||there's a machine that does the opposite though||

oh yeah, there ya go

||I only just beat the secret boss myself, god damn was that hard||

[inland dagger]

ch3 secret boss ||also i realize now why the sword attack is fucking asinine, theres like, no iframes between hits like a lot of the attacks in this game give you||

[honest nest]

||OH MY FUCKING GOD THAT'S A WEIRD ROUTE HINT|| chapter 3 pre-secret boss

||IS THIS WHOLE THING HERE JUST TO HINT THAT YOU CAN DO THE WEIRD ROUTE IN CHAPTER 2 IF YOU DONT WANNA LOOK IT UP ONLINE OR SOMETHING??||

||IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW||

||I MADE A WHITE MAGE FREEZE A BLUE BIRD. BRO||

this was definitely one of the things i absolutely did not expect of all time

||I DID NOT EXPECT THE MAIN GAME TO OBVIOUSLY HINT AT THE WEIRD ROUTE LIKE THIS||

||okay i kinda get why this part of the game was so hidden now||

i think it's very easy to summarize chapter 3 in 3 spoiler-free words: WHAT IS HAPPENING?

unrelated to what i'm currently doing (chapter 3 intro): ||yeah the intro of this chapter basically confirms that gaster was studying dark worlds in entry number 17. like, if a place is darker than dark it becomes a dark world. you could say that darkness is 0 light, so 0 photons. if it somehow gets darker than dark there would be even less photons. so, PHOTON READINGS NEGATIVE.||

[inland dagger]

ch 3||yeah for how "relaxed" the main plot of chapter 3 is its also very lore heavyi think||

[honest nest]

||yeah it's really cool||

[potent belfry]

||How did you got to this part? :0 i wanna help a friend to reach this point but i think you need to get S rank before round 2??||

[honest nest]

||you need to get S rank in round 1, play the game, get S rank in round 2, play the game again, play the bonus round and go through the final area before going back to the green room, and then play the game one more time||

||so yeah it's pretty complicated compared to jevil and spamton lol||

[potent belfry]

||OOF YEAH, thanks for the help!||

[honest nest]

[safe abyss]

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE TRACK ||77|| ON THE SOUNDTRACK (The one titled ||"Air Waves"||) PLAYS?

[potent belfry]

Anyone knows ||how to get the Spamton and Tenna cutscene too? I know you need the dealmaker for it but idk where the secret room for it is||

[inland dagger]

ch3 ||its accessed through the room with the mini quizzes, you need to interact with one of the tv sets to find the hidden room||

||then go to the very right of the room it leads you into||

||i dont remember which exact tv set it is though||

also ch3 final boss ||only just clicked that the fight was basically just warioware after reading some people compare it to that||

[potent belfry]

||Oohh got it, ty ty||

[honest nest]

||man i just want the egg i have no damn clue what's going on anymore||

[safe abyss]

||Why the hell is that guy there||

||That's a chapter 4 enemy|| (semi-spoilery)

[inland dagger]

god i wanna play ch4 already but i also wanna beat the ch3 secret boss first

[potent belfry]

||wizard??||

[inland dagger]

also (ch3 finale) ||it just clicked the knight has "holes" on its hands, because of course it does||

[honest nest]

||WHAT THE FUCK????||

[honest nest]

i'm doing that and the egg right now lol

[honest nest]

BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING

deltarune chapter 3: "WHAT IS HAPPENING?"

(that's its subtitle)

[potent belfry]

OH YEAH- ||how do you get the egg? ||

[opal pumice]

a friend in another discord found the egg by himself i think

which is wild

[honest nest]

chapter 3 egg help ||DO I PICK YES OR NO???||

[honest nest]

absolutely no way

[potent belfry]

||UUUHHH. YES??||

[honest nest]

||it's simple, just follow this 10 step plan-
...that is not a joke by the way||

[honest nest]

WRONG ANSWER BRUH

now i gotta reset 😭

[silent dock]

uhh wtf??? how do I get here

[honest nest]

||https://www.reddit.com/r/Deltarune/comments/1l3cz6x/comment/mw115l5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button|| here's the egg tutorial i used

[silent dock]

oh I see

I'd found that place, but ||didn't know that I had to backtrack||

that'll get me started at least, thank ye

[honest nest]

||WAIT YOU HOLD LEFT TO GET THE EGG JUST LIKE HOW YOU HOLD LEFT TO GET THE "But..." IN THE CHAPTER 3 SWEEPSTAKES PAGE||

https://tenor.com/view/i-won't-forget-you-buddy-venom-eddie-brock-venom-the-last-dance-i-wont-forget-you-gif-13672003510163581064

[safe abyss]

Gonna take a nap but a quick reminder there is a very easily missed bit of content before the CH4 Dark World
@ me if you wanna find it and i'll say things when I wake up

[honest nest]

BRO????

i think it's time

[pearl bridge]

||Oh...thats a Gaster||

[honest nest]

NO NO NO NO NO NO
||EVEN KRIS IS TRYING TO WALK BACK||

[silent dock]

DAYS OF THE WEEK CONFIRMED???

[honest nest]

UMMMM

[potent belfry]

||The bunker ||

[potent belfry]

||HUH||

[honest nest]

WHAT IS HAPPENING

I KEEP SAYING THAT BUT WHAT IS HAPPENING

i gotta go eat
but someone please tell me ||how many phases the 8-bit boss that summons IMAGE_FRIEND cat things has please||

[silent dock]

||like 4||

[opal pumice]

oh yeah one more thing about how ||the ice palace is a hint for snowgrave||

||you cast ice magic by stabbing the white cloak||

[silent dock]

hm

egg ||man gave me advice about holding my breath, going left... ok did those, but counting 100 seconds? having trouble||

[honest nest]

||well i already made it to phase 5 lol 😭||

anyway i am back from eating yay

finally

||wait... was that the secret boss? just the rpg bit?||

||does chapter 4 have the actual next secret boss?||

[inland dagger]

||no||

||wait have you cleared ch3 before already and just are redoing it for the secrets||

[honest nest]

||replaying it to find the egg and secret boss||

[honest nest]

||so do i just continue onward? and then the secret boss will appear?||

[inland dagger]

||the secret boss is the knight||

[honest nest]

OH

ALRIGHT THEN

UHH YEAH

DAMN

[inland dagger]

||the mantle is meant to give you enough defense for someone to survive its attacks||

||as it greatly reduces damage from its elements||

[honest nest]

||i'll see if i can figure the rest out myself then lol||

[gilded warren]

||Ok this entire time I've been looking at screenshots in here and I've been like 'this shit reminds me of something' but I couldn't figure out what beyond 'yea they're emulating the aesthetics of really old games' but I just realized
Seeing all this shit reminds me of FNaF minigames 😭 ||

[honest nest]

||* Spamton turns to the audience and laughs.
* Spamton appeals to the audience with a festive jig!
* Spamton begs to the audience, Spamton prays to the audience.
* There is no audience.||

||honestly i'm genuinely surprised but also glad to see how important spamton is too this chapter||

[inland dagger]

||its kinda crazy to me how much tenna references a character that some people probably thought was just a one off random boss fight||

[honest nest]

WAIT HOLY SHIT IT'S THE MISPLACED PIXEL (chapter 3 final boss)

||holy shit when tenna is switching between scenes during his defeat you can see some stuff like the hallway in kris's house, the title screen, the classroom, kris's room, and even SPAMTON|| (chapter 3 final boss)

[safe abyss]

||I don't think these graphics actually mean anything (outside of maybe Spamton)||

||I mean the Chapter 2 easter egg Game Over text is here||

||(AKA the Undertale Game Over text)||

[honest nest]

this does NOT look like a real screenshot lol i still can't believe this happened (chapter 3 finale)

[pearl bridge]

||Good luck||

[honest nest]

WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT (chapter 3 secret boss)

[inland dagger]

||this only happens if you reload a cleared ch3 save from what ive heard||

[safe abyss]

||The copium i've seen regarding Mike is hilarious|| (secret spoilers)

[pearl bridge]

hHUh

[honest nest]

exactly, HUH indeed

chapter 3 is definitely ||the most unpredictable chapter so far. like chapter 1 and 2 were pretty similar but this on a complete different level||

[untold kite]

||Omg Star-Crossed World x Deltarune confirmed||

[honest nest]

||i am so glad i replayed chapter 3 to do the secret boss i did NOT want to miss this||

[hearty knoll]

Chap4 ||Nothing important I just despise the pumpkin man||

[safe abyss]

||Skill issue||

[south lion]

||you’re taking too too :(||

[untold kite]

Omg ||electrode from pokemon||

[hearty knoll]

||Literally his fault,,,,||

[honest nest]

to anyone who has done THE chapter 3 secret boss, ||IS IT POSSIBLE TO BEAT THE KNIGHT WITHOUT ATTACKING??? PLEASE||

||so far it's looking like it, susie is doing her dialogue||

[hearty knoll]

||Im too forgiving||

[inland dagger]

||as far as im aware no||

[honest nest]

😭

i'll try first anyway

[quartz sable]

Chapter 4. I assume i'm in the middle
||Gold piano is secret boss, right?. The water hint is at the place you can put dark dollars in a fountain?||

[inland dagger]

ch3 secret boss ||am i crazy or is "Nightmare Knight" actually a motif in the knight's theme||

[honest nest]

yup

and i couldn't be happier

[safe abyss]

||No I think it's just The Chase again||

[honest nest]

||which is also based on nightmare knight. and like, you're literally fighting the knight. i highly doubt it's unintentional||

||either way it's a BANGER||

[safe abyss]

||Debatably based on Nightmare Knight||
||Either way, there's still a difference, saying Nightmare Knight itself is the leitmotif used is misinformation, even if it is the likely reason it was used.||

[honest nest]

i asked reddit ||and the answer seems to be yes unfortunately||

[inland dagger]

||yes as in there is a way to beat them without attacking or there isnt||

[honest nest]

||OKAY I FOUND AN INSANELY GOOD STRATEGY FOR ONE OF THE ATTACKS. I THINK IT GUARANTEES NO HIT|| ch3 secret boss (still)

||i'm gonna try giving the shadow mantle to someone else||

[honest nest]

||nevermind i guess it doesn't nearly guarantee no damage. welp||

||i have now gotten to the same attack 4 times and died each and every fucking time||

OH FUCK

||THERE
IS
NO
FUCKING
WAY
IT JUST
USED
HYPER GONER||

||WHAT DO I DO WHAT DO I DO WHAT DO I DO WHAT DO I DO WHAT DO I DO||

||OH MY GOD I DID IT I DID IT I DID IT I DID IT I DID IT||

||I JUST HAD KRIS LEFT
WITH 7 HP
THE OTHER 2 WERE DEAD AND I HAD NO REVIVE MINTS
SO THE ONLY THING I COULD DO WAS ATTACK
AND IT WAS THE FINAL ATTACK||

this game is incredible

[hearty knoll]

Chap4/I need these out of my way

[honest nest]

i should go start chapter 4 now LOL

that was another like, 5 hours

[safe abyss]

Just randomly posting this Toby tweet here for reasons indecipherable
https://vxtwitter.com/tobyfox/status/1930569846301004154

tobyfox (@tobyfox)

After you finish Chapter 4, make sure to load up your save file one more time afterwards. There might have been something you missed!

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jun 5, 2025, 10:18 AM

[opal pumice]

right where

[gloomy onyx]

Above you, right now

[opal pumice]

by the way ||i gotta say the shadow mantle fight really gave me link's awakening vibes||

[silent dock]

chapter 4 intro, after doing weird route on chapter 2

||are you fucking kidding me||

[pearl bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-book-fire-fire-book-his-writing-is-fire-as-a-child-i-yearned-for-the-mines-gif-7492916682126134420

[gloomy onyx]

BUUUUT TBH, the ending of Chapter 4 is... real long! Maybe??

If you want to get there earlier, just do ||6453||!

You'd be missing some dialogue if you do this the other way

[wise turtle]

do we all agree that this is the best track in this batch ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN7qy-f092k||

[pearl bridge]

(Chapter 4) ||What if the knight is so powerful because it takes a genuine weapon (the katana in the Holiday's house) into the dark world, in contrast to all the other weapons which are harmless/non lethal objects in the real world||

[honest nest]

you know how i recorded my whole blind playthrough just so i could always rewatch it later
...yeah apparently obs didn't record any audio
...for all 10+ hours of footage
...because if i don't septuple check something it WILL go wrong
🫠

[balmy bridge]

What if...

[wise turtle]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2F9AHLGhHM|| this too

[balmy bridge]

||We brought a fucking gun?||

[safe abyss]

Nah ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-G-zto0mtSs||

BIG SPOILER TRACK

FOR A BIG SECRET

[honest nest]

honestly not too big of a deal, since i wasn't planning on rewatching the whole thing or whatever
just wanted to maybe post it on youtube just to have it i guess
still a bummer

but i fixed it for chapter 4

[safe abyss]

Better late than never

[silent dock]

I WAS WRONG

NEVER LISTEN TO ME AGAIN

[honest nest]

no context chapter 3 spoilers

[honest nest]

don't worry lol i'm starting from this new save file anyway

[honest nest]

credit to ||these people|| for somehow perfectly predicting that one thing

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spamton jumping out of kris' pocket in chapter 3 when tenna shows up

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Shit is literally this LMFAOOOOOO

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spamton jumping out of kris' pocket in chapter 3 when tenna shows up

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[honest nest]

damn those hyperlinks did not work
you could say they're [[HYPERLINK BLOCKED]]

[inland dagger]

maybe i shouldve done chapter 4 before looking for stuff abt chapter 3 online

[honest nest]

i replayed chapter 3 to find a bunch of secrets and i don't regret it
gives me a better save file going into chapter 4
honestly i recommend doing that

[inland dagger]

my stubborn ass wants to beat the secret boss though

for its equipment

but i guess later down the line when chapters 5 - 7 come around i can just make a new chapter 4 file if i wanna carry it over

[honest nest]

chapter 3 secret boss ||i wonder if anyone will be crazy enough to try to beat the knight without the shadow mantle (if it's even possible to avoiding taking damage in certain attacks)||

[honest nest]

it sure is interesting
though it doesn't seem very necessary

(hence why the boss is secret)

[silent dock]

actually, ||if you die without the shadow mantle against it, gaster specifies it's impossible to win||

[safe abyss]

I saw a no-hit run on Youtube earlier

[inland dagger]

||ask and you shall recieve https://www.youtube.com/live/qCqDuvOYPS8?si=RamgVx9ffgIYUv7x||

||he has yet to do it and is currently doing a second stream of attempts||

||but yes he is trying||

[pearl bridge]

Its been done

[inland dagger]

||does seam have any dialog in ch4 if you do manage it without the mantle||

[safe abyss]

||Anyways there are 2 new themes with the "Freedom Motif"
Neither have ties to Freedom and one isn't even a main secret boss theme lmao||

[honest nest]

||i love how gaster just randomly shows up, like he saw a secret boss that he didn't make go crazy and was like "hey i gotta show up now"||

[inland dagger]

||are they both in ch4? i dont recall hearing it at all in chapter 3 ||

[safe abyss]

||Yeah||

||And both are in secrets||

[balmy bridge]

Chapter 4 unused

[pearl bridge]

Ah right

Wait WAIT

[honest nest]

||i think i'm gonna play|| deltarune ||chapter 4|| tomorrow

^ not actually spoilers btw

[pearl bridge]

What if

[opal pumice]

y'know ||since from how gerson describes it, ch. 5's gonna get worse for a lot of folk||

||if we had the original 1+2, 3+4+5, and 6+7 release schedule we could've gotten a classic trilogy emotional arc||

[honest nest]

my favorite part of playing through chapter 3 was watching every fucking fan theory being deconfirmed, t'was hilarious

except ||woody theory||, i'm still kinda sad that didn't happen

[unique copper]

HONESTLY

[molten sigil]

i just fought END OF CHAPTER 4 SPOILERS ||mike||

||he can't keep getting away with this||

[opal pumice]

||where the first one's the 'hey it's an adventure' one, the second's the 'things get dark' one, and the third's the ending||

[unique copper]

||I got to the part where I meet the Pumpkin Boss, is that like halfway through chapter 4?||

[honest nest]

i'm looking at the chapter 3 soundtrack (and hopefully not accidentally seeing chapter 4 names)
i love how track 11 is called ||ruder buster||

[molten sigil]

yeah

[unique copper]

ok cool

[safe abyss]

||Nah i'm glad||

||The joke got old an entire year ago at this point, and it being real would only encourage more of it||

[unique copper]

||what was the woody theory?||

[safe abyss]

||Woody theory was the theory Chapter 3's secret boss would be a cowboy||
||It allegedly had a lot of evidence, but none of it was really GOOD evidence in my opinion||

[unique copper]

||Oh
bro that’s so lame 💀||

[honest nest]

chapter 3 ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_PLFuhThgs i can't wait for someone to make a lyrical cover of this where you can actually hear the lyrics||

[unique copper]

||I’m excited to see which songs Man on the Internet covers||

[safe abyss]

||"And the mom is kiss goodnight" is the most peak lyric ever||

[potent belfry]

||I WAS THINKING THE SAME the song it's actually so good||

[honest nest]

||i kinda wonder what the song would sound like if susie actually participated||

[safe abyss]

Semi-spoiler for PAINFULLY early optional Chapter 4 content that isn't hidden at all
||You can replay this minigame in Castle Town, adding versions of IT'S TV TIME!! (Tenna's boss theme) and Knock You Down!! from Chapter 2 as selectable songs
In said version Susie doesn't get eliminated instantly, and it sounds the exact same||

[honest nest]

i joined the hivemind

[honest nest]

if it's not hidden at all i'm not clicking it lol

(unless that was sarcastic)

[safe abyss]

Not sarcastic, i'm genuinely serious
The thing i'm talking about can only be missed if you're lame and go straight to the relevant story locations instead of messing about with random buildings and NPCs

[honest nest]

"messing about with random buildings and NPCs" is my middle name!

anyway my possibly controversial new deltarune take is that chapter 3||'s soundtrack is by far the worst one so far
too much reused and chiptune music||

[languid siren]

Chat i beat the ch3 superboss

[safe abyss]

||Nah I like it a lot||

[honest nest]

oh huh maybe not controversial lol

[safe abyss]

||Sometimes being fitting for a scene is more important than just being catchy, and i'll be honest it's hard to make really good cheesy game show music||

[honest nest]

so yeah my LITERALLY ONLY TWO negative chapter 3 opinions:
||not the best soundtrack (relative to other deltarune chapters) and THE SECRET BOSS STUFF IS TOO DAMN WELL HIDDEN!!!||

[safe abyss]

||Toby struck gold with "It's Showtime!" in Undertale when it came to game show music and he couldn't really reuse that||

[honest nest]

||i mean he reused part of live report too so he could definitely use the motif lol||

[safe abyss]

||He cut out the part that had Mettaton's motif though||

[small dome]

||IMO current ranking is probably 4 with the best, followed by 2 and 1, and then 3||

[safe abyss]

||And if you do the same to It's Showtime! then you don't get any music||

[safe abyss]

||I didn't like Chapter 4's ost||

[languid siren]

||they did manage to make good cheesy game show music though||

[safe abyss]

||I mean yeah but I can see why others wouldn't like it||

[languid siren]

||its not well hidden but its not forgiving at all. Missed it? Reload your file!!!!||

[balmy bridge]

I'M ||BLACK KNIFING YOU||

[north jetty]

I have amazing news

[honest nest]

yea yea

[north jetty]

||https://youtu.be/lIALSOkwdGQ?feature=shared||

[honest nest]

let's goooo

[safe abyss]

ALREADY!?

[north jetty]

Yup lnao

[honest nest]

never underestimate deltarune fans

[safe abyss]

||Does it use the original Lyrics or Ralsei lyrics though?||

[potent belfry]

OOOHHHHHH

[balmy bridge]

||black knife is maybe the most relevant theme in chapter 3 tbh (it's the roaring knight theme btw)||

[small dome]

||i can def see why someone wouldn't like it, but it appealed very strongly to my specific tastes||

[north jetty]

||Also am I the only person who thinks the start of Kris' last guitar solo sounds like that one part of Megalovania?||

||Yes, just me going insane? Okay||

[small dome]

||did they find the nightmare knight motif or was i just going insane||

[safe abyss]

||In general not a big fan of Chapter 4, I very much recognise why it is the way it is, but I mainly play Undertale and Deltarune for the funny bits, which Chapter 4 barely has||
||I can appreciate what it is doing, but it isn't for me||

[pearl bridge]

||Its at least the lost girl motif which may or may not be nightmare knight||

[balmy bridge]

idk, take a quick listen guys and tell me

chapter 3 btw

[safe abyss]

||It uses The Chase/The Door leitmotif, which many fans already compared to Nightmare Knight all the way back in the Chapter 1 days||

[balmy bridge]

is it me or... the beginning is actually ||the theme of asriel second phase?||

[safe abyss]

||This OST drop will be feeding MediaMotifs for like half a year honestly||

||"Deltarune Chapter 2 and 3 - All tracks with the HEY EVERY ! motif"||
||It's somehow 5 hours long||

[small dome]

||there was a LOT of don't forget, some of the LEGEND i heard, apparently the spamton motif is now everywhere, but i think the only freedom motif track was the chapter 4 superboss||

[safe abyss]

||There is a second Freedom motif track||
||Did you fight the OTHER secret Chapter 4 boss?||

||It's RELATED to that||

[balmy bridge]

Chapter 4

[honest nest]

(chapter 3) ||watercooler|| speaking absolute facts

[safe abyss]

||Why is Watercooler religious||

Well i'm gonna go sleep for a bit but I have one last thing i'm wondering
||Why was Toby hyping up Pluey so much, it's one of three completely optional and very secret minigames || (Big chapter 4 secret)

[honest nest]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2PPXpm92-8||

[unique copper]

||what does the golden piano do in chapter 4||

[old bramble]

Early chapter 4 castle town
||Hi what's mike's room combination||

[safe abyss]

||You know those old phones that only had numbers and had 3 letters assigned to each one?||

||Spell "MIKE" like that||

[honest nest]

i just realized chapter 4 is the halfway point of the game as a whole oml

oh cool my internet is dying again bye i guess

[quartz sable]

Chapter 4
||NEW DARK WORLD???
And i guess the 7 knights theory was right on susie opening the chapter 4 fountain lmao(at least one)||

[gloomy onyx]

Hrmm, am I missing something here?

Sure I missed something in Chapter 3, so it doesn't have the two stars on the chapter select...
But Chapter 4?! I thought I looked ALL over!

[old bramble]

ealry chapter 4 light world
||is there a way to make onion san pop up? - nvm literally right as i was typing that susie told me he must be busy today. thanks susie||

[shrewd dove]

chapter 3 ||how do you get the spamton easter egg?||

[gloomy onyx]

(CHAPTER 3)
||In the room/maze full of TV's and Quizzes, somewhere in the BOTTOM LEFT region of the area, there'd be a pair of green TV's... Interact with it, and then have Spamton Equipped||

[shrewd dove]

ohh i see

||is that at then end? cuz i went back to the first maze of tvs and quiz and didnt ofund a green tv||

[gloomy onyx]

||I think there's only one??||

[shrewd dove]

||i...didn't found those two tv???||

[gloomy onyx]

||It's in there somewhere... the one with the multiple quizzes and spikes?? Unless this is one more of the many secrets in the chapter where you can EASILY miss out by simple progression||

[shrewd dove]

||oh it seems its later on||

[old bramble]

chapter 4 light world
||kris is sure taking their sweet time. am i supposed to be doing something during this? i clicked every button...||

||am i supposed to quit the game?||

||nvm got it||

[quartz sable]

Chapter 4
||Is this the firet time ralsei kills something||

[shrewd dove]

chapter 3 ||FOUND IT||

||LMAOOOOO SPAMTON||

[honest nest]

chapter 3 ||WAIT OH MY GOD THE LOGO FOR THE RETRO GAME BEFORE IT FULLY STARTS UP SAYS MANTLE. WAS THE GAME ORIGINALLY ABOUT THE SHADOW MANTLE BEFORE TENNA CHANGED IT???||

[shrewd dove]

||chapter 3 so uh...the teleport doors arent working????? im trying to get to the egg but i cant use the doors to go back?||

is it a bug?

[gloomy onyx]

I think you gotta keep progressing the story...

[shrewd dove]

...huh..

[gloomy onyx]

But like, ironically that may not be a good idea

NEVERMIND I misremembered

It only becomes an issue ONCE ||You beat the secret boss, because THAT will lock you out of the egg||

[shrewd dove]

||i havent beat a secret boss yet...i assume its the spamton equivalent of it?||

[round olive]

Also Chapter 3
||I thought it said Manhole at first because I constantly tried to see if it opened Lmao||

[honest nest]

forgot to spoiler image damn it

||BLUE STOP SIGN||

[old bramble]

chapter 3 accessory ||if you get the blue ribbon, try repeatedly equipping and unequipping it on ralsei||

also random musing about early ch 4 ||i like how carol's reveal was more foreboding than most of the antagonists in this game lol||

[quartz sable]

Chapter 4 final boss
||Music goes hard
AND IT KILLED ME||

||what's tp "???" gain exception ||

[gloomy onyx]

NOO NOO YOU GOTTA BE SHITTING ME...

(CHAPTER FREAKING 3, FINALE)

DISCLAIMER: I already beaten chapter 3 and 4 yesterday, this is just a realization

|| SO YOU'RE TELLING ME... I HAVE TO defeat... THE "SCRIPTED LOSS" KNIGHT... FOR A SHADOW CRYSTAL?! ||

||OK OK, you know I can get behind super fucking cryptic EGG ROOMS... I can get behind secret bosses that require me to explore a room at certain times... But to hide this item behind something obviously intended to make you LOSE?? whattttt?!||

[knotty pawn]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS 😭

[gloomy onyx]

I thought this was ||optional with no reward other than a flex!!!||
(||TBF I didn't watch the "full" fight from other people's videos||)

[old bramble]

Anyone got a tip on how to find ch 4 egg when the time comes for me to grab it? I wanna be sure I don't miss it

[gloomy onyx]

Ah, give me a MOMENT...

IDK how far you're into it tho

[old bramble]

rn I'm at ||turtle dude (i think gerson)'s study||
I imagine I'm a bit far from it lol

[gloomy onyx]

Ahhh you seem early

[old bramble]

||But ch 3 has a thing where if you mess it up you can't go back to get it so I guess I'm just being preemptive lol||

Is there like. An obivous point where I know I'm near the end and can pause and go look for it

[gloomy onyx]

Ok lemme give you a semi-spoiler free hint:
||At some point in the chapter... a LONG WAYS from now, you'll find a save spot on an "inverted" staircase. Now, just continue taking the RIGHTWARD path... Ignore the "upward" path that progresses the story. Now, the end of this right path will be a door. If you're familiar with the "windows" subpage from the updated sweepstaks site... Well, that's how you find it||

[old bramble]

That's the perfect amount of vague for me thank you (/srs that sounds sarcastic LOL but I mean it)

[balmy bridge]

chapter 3

[molten sigil]

GOD DAMN IT ||I WAS RIGHT AND JUST FORGOT WHERE IT WAS||

[gloomy onyx]

MAJOR MAJOR NOTE:
||But keep in mind, when you find the egg room will be at a point where you may lose the ability to confront the secret boss||

[old bramble]

Oh shoot hmm

||So presumably I encounter the secret boss before I get to this point||

[gloomy onyx]

Ya better

[old bramble]

I will be on the lookout lol

[quartz sable]

Finished chapter 4
||PEAK. PEAK. PEAK PEAK PEAK.
Oh sans really was with toriel
PEAK PEAK PEAK
Where's don't forget
PEAK PEAK PEAK
WE ALREADY HAVE A YEAR?????||

[unique copper]

||IM AT THE CHAPTER 4 SECRET BOSS THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME||

[quartz sable]

||also
SUSIE CAN BLEED??? SHE ISN'T A MONSTER???||

[shrewd dove]

||spamton: b-but....POOKIE.....||

[shrewd dove]

ch3|| i got to the aprt where it seems im fighting roulx and the weather couple, and yet the doors doesnt seem to work. Is this the secret fight??||

[gloomy onyx]

...no

||Have you gotten S-rank for every round so far and... exploring the S-rank room each time?||

[shrewd dove]

||i got S rank first time and on the 2nd round i payed to get access to the S rank room||

||but the transportation doors remain useless||

||now im on a cutscene where roulx discovers he's not the 2nd in command if he dates both the weather reporters ||

[gloomy onyx]

Ah you should be good for now... I do think with what you've described so far you're close to being able to activate it...

[shrewd dove]

ok good

[gloomy onyx]

Once you get that part overwith, and maybe one cutscene or two... then it'll be time to do the thing

[honest nest]

chapter 3 ||OH MY GOD I KNEW THE SONG NAME WAS FAMILIAR
NOELLE MENTIONED LISTENING TO IT ON HER BLOG POST
THAT'S WHY IT HAS HER LEITMOTIF IN IT!!!!!||

[gloomy onyx]

oh and of course a reminder that ||You HAVE to get the egg before entering the S-rank room for a final time...||

[shrewd dove]

yea

ok...got it

got to the place

||....the.....the minigame just...lets me kill susie and ralsei..?||

||oh my GOd kris just turned their eyes away when-||

[split elbow]

early chapter 4 spoilers
||KRIS WHEN TF ARE YOU GONNA STOP PLAYING PIANO 😭||

[shrewd dove]

i...

||i got the egg||

[balmy reef]

I think I am close to the end of chapter 3

[shrewd dove]

me rn:

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-dog-traumatized-gif-10801559770686219962

[pearl bridge]

||LET THEM EXPRESS THEMSELVES FOR ONCE 😭||

[unique copper]

||I GOT TO THE TITAN THIS IS INSANE||

[split elbow]

||chat is it weird that i think that (probably) gerson is REALLY CUTE FOR SOME REASON 😭||

||like his voice and his laugh idk why i think it's cute||

[shrewd dove]

||i got the shadow mantle but man do i feel AWFUL after getting it....||

[split elbow]

||you got the egg before this?||

[shrewd dove]

||yep||

[split elbow]

cool

[shrewd dove]

||that was the first thing i did before finishing the "snowgrave minigames"||

[north jetty]

AW FUCK YEAH, #1 SPLATOON YOUTUBER BEAT THE CH3 SECRET BOSS WITHOUT THE KEY ITEM

[molten sigil]

hard calling this for later

beginning of chapter 3 spoilers ||i'm like 90% sure this is susie's room||

[languid siren]

Chat uhh ch4 related

||is there any secret boss other than the old man||

||cause this one felt way too easy to reach||

[shrewd dove]

ch3 so....||where is the secret boss? i've heard is the knight but im about to fight tenna...||

[pliant loom]

||you won’t miss it||

[shrewd dove]

alright?

[unique copper]

||it’s actually a secret item that might help you||

[shrewd dove]

i got it already tho

[old bramble]

Waitttt WHAT

Chapter 4 secret boss
||Is this turtle guy actually the secret boss? WAs not expecting that||

[unique copper]

||he was a shopkeeper in Undertale||

[old bramble]

Ye

[shrewd dove]

||WAIT HANG ON IM FIGHTING TENNA ALREADY AAAA||

[unique copper]

||i got to the end of chapter 4
Idk whether I should laugh or cry||

[split elbow]

||it's fine||

||just trust me||

[split wagon]

chapter 4 very vague spoilers ||(I'm still at the beginning I think)||

||fdjkdjfiirjebjzioxodjbevgstsrragbdyduidjdbveytf||

[split elbow]

ok wait i wanna talk weird route stuff
||so, i haven't beaten chapter 4 yet so no big spoilers pls but is there a weird route in this chapter||

||i forgot if the sweepstakes said applicable or not||

[shrewd dove]

ch3|| omg susie is loredropping||

[split elbow]

||at the very least, considering noelle is important to at least the start of chapter 4, it could change a lot if you do it with a file where snowgrave was done||

[shrewd dove]

||IM CRYING SUSIE HOW DO YOU DO IT? HOW TF YOU KEEP BECOMING A BETTER CHARACTER WITH EACH PASSING CHAPTER||

||WDYM TENNA'S DEAD????||

||HOLY FUCK THE KNIGHT'S DESIGN DOES HARD||

||IT KICKED MY ASS AND HOLY FUCK UNDYNE??????||

UHHHHH

ch3 ||DO I RESET????? THE KNIGHT DEFEATED ME AND IT TOOK UNDYNE||

||screw it, im resetting ||

[round olive]

||Clearly you haven’t played enough RPGs to immediately recognize that it was an i winnable battle. ||

[shrewd dove]

||hey, dont need to be that cheeky >:/||

||it didnt even gave me the shadow crystal, and i just saw ppl talk and being able to survive the battle||

[round olive]

||Oh so it’s like Super Metroid Ridely where you can technically “win” even if nothing changes? Nice job surviving still||

[shrewd dove]

||i cant win it but i can however harm it to a point it'll give up||

||no way im gonig to chapter 4 without giving it a piece of my mind, and considering i can ACT i suppose i'll go the classic rpg way||

||interestingly enough, the knight has antlers......so the candidates reduces drastically

either it's dess.....or noelle's mom||

[north jetty]

||Nah it's actually the father who's stuck in the hospital||

||Duh||

[shrewd dove]

||rudy would NEVER||

[balmy bridge]

...

[north jetty]

||Because he literally can't lmfao||

[balmy bridge]

||OLD MAN IS FUCKING PEAK||

[north jetty]

YEEEAAAAHHHHHHHHH

RAWEST SHIT EVER

||I will say though, I initially thought the Knight HAD to be Noelle's mom||

||But now? I dunno, I'm leaning back towards it being Dess||

[round olive]

Chapter 3 “””Secret Boss”””(?)
||Ngl it didn’t feel like the shadow mantle did anything while fighting the knight so I kinda just assumed it was for something else. Especially since Seam says something like “even if you did have the Shadow Mantle you probably wouldn’t have won” in Castle Town… even though I did have it||

[old bramble]

@gloomy onyx question about the ch4 egg
||sealed the fountain and got to the part where there's another dark fountain in the next room. did i miss the egg or do i not get it until i enter that next dark world?||

[gloomy onyx]

||You're on the right track||

[old bramble]

Oh ok whew

[gloomy onyx]

Don't forget
||Save Point @ Inverted Staircase, take right path||

[old bramble]

Bet 🙏

[inland dagger]

||well the shadow mantle wearer of the party will be taking like, 10ish damage on average compared to the others 40||

starting chapter 4 and ||oh my god toriel's church outfit is legit her undertale outfit||

[shrewd dove]

||thr knight is kicking my ass despite my best efforts...||

[round olive]

||Ngl at the time I was probably thinking that it was just Kris’ Main Characterness allowing them to live longer lmao. Me when I further Traumatize Kris to get the Shadow Mantle only to basically waste it.||

[inland dagger]

ch4 ||wait. why is there a save point. in the light world.||

[round olive]

Toby didn’t want to at first but play testers convinced him, according to a newsletter

Chapter 4 Secret Boss
||So is there a point in using Rude Buster against Gerson or is it just for cool points?||

[gloomy onyx]

NGL I think staying alive is more valid

[shrewd dove]

Ch.3 ||i gave up for today, the knight is kicking my ass and i got tired BUT IM NOT GOING TO CH.4 UNTIL I TEACH THIS NEUTRAL GENDER ELDRITCH HORROR A PIECE OF MY MIND||

[gloomy onyx]

oh boy I'm about to HAVE FUUUUUN with THAT ONE

...Oh what the fuck-

(Chapter 3 FINAL boss)
||Ok so, IDK if I'm seeing things, but... does the mere act of SAVING after defeating Tenna trigger a "retry" mode for the Knight rather than progress the story?!||

[inland dagger]

||its not that because i did save after beating tenna and didnt get the retry option||

||most people seem to think it only triggers upon reloading a completed ch3 file and dying to the knight again||

[balmy bridge]

Chapter 4

...eh?

[old bramble]

also just making sure im not missing something about chapter 4 secret boss
||there's no one else besides gerson right? like He is the secret?||

[balmy bridge]

||he is the secret||

||like... he the one who gives you the extra weapon and crystal||

[round olive]

Early Chapter 4
||I wonder if anyone will calculate how fast Susie had to move in order to grab Tenna as fast as she did||

[old bramble]

||That's what I was thinking lol. But for a second I was considering if they had some like. secret secret boss since I thought I saw someone mention it lol. And maybe another shadow crystal. (Don't ask the thought process)||

[gloomy onyx]

Hey, for the record:
(CHAPTER 3 FINAL BOSS)
||If I by chance lose ENOUGH times to the Knight, I MAYYYY just have to cheat via equipment||

[round olive]

||Well I guess a good thing about The Knight actually being the “”””””””||Secret Boss||”””””””” ||of Chapter 3 ||is that I won’t have to make a separate file for whenever I feel like refighting a secret boss.||

[gloomy onyx]

Ok how about... FOUR tries... if those get used up... I WON'T be afraid to do something bad

THREE

Two

made good progress... one

[inland dagger]

ch4 ||hey so can i bring tenna in the castle town at all or no||

[gloomy onyx]

...Zero

ARRRIGHTY LET'S CHEAT

[shrewd dove]

||I havent finished ch.3 and i fear the knight killed him for real...||

[pliant loom]

||go to castle town and see what’s new||

[round olive]

||Yes, though you’ll be able to choose if you want him to stay or not||

[inland dagger]

||damn, i already gave him to mettaton before coming to the town||

||oh well||

[balmy bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-issues-gif-13031152103567454559

Ah fuck

This shit was too much

Chapter 4 is straight up the best chapter as of now

[pliant loom]

Yeah

[gloomy onyx]

(Chapter 3 FINAL BOSS + Secret Boss)
||OKAY LET'S SEE HOW THIS FUCKER WILL DO AGAINST A TRIO WEARING DUAL SHADOW MANTLES||

[balmy bridge]

Bitch, what

[gloomy onyx]

I TOLD YOU I WAS GOING TO CHEAT

[balmy bridge]

And your thought was doing that instead of...

[pliant loom]

Chapter 4 final boss ||it’s so funny that get dunked on was the killing blow||

[balmy bridge]

Setting HP to 999?

[gloomy onyx]

haha the "file editing" program didn't actually do anything!!!

[balmy bridge]

are you stupid.

[gloomy onyx]

YES!!!

[pliant loom]

Being smart is cringe

[gloomy onyx]

Also, wouldn't this carry on over to chapter 4??

[balmy bridge]

No.

Already tested

[gloomy onyx]

AHHH OK....

[balmy bridge]

The game sets to a default hp value with every save file

[gloomy onyx]

I'M STILL GONNA DO THIS, already backed up the Two saves associated with the file I'm on

OK FINE I'LL DO THAT INSTEAD

[gloomy onyx]

this applies to the... other stats too, right??

[balmy bridge]

I have no idea where the def stats are

Just don't mess with the atk stats, you might break the fight

[gloomy onyx]

Ahh ok... There does exist a file editor btw https://saveeditor.spamton.com/ But of course these things ain't ALWAYS perfect...

oh my god that worked?!

Yeah I got NO patience for this sorta nonsense

[alpine dawn]

FINISHED both chapters

holy macaroni

[inland dagger]

so uh ch4 ||does kris legit play a bunch of different songs on the piano if i just wait around||

||wait holy fuck theyre playing roulxs theme??||

[round olive]

Chapter 4
||So what does Carol say to Kris if you don’t turn that Santa thing on before leaving?||

[alpine dawn]

ch4 ||Carol looks like the grinch for some reason lol||

[balmy bridge]

Can any of you guys edit this shit

[split wagon]

help for late(?) ch4
||apparently I missed someone to recruit I think, would it still be possible to get to them?||

[gloomy onyx]

(Chapter 4)
||You may need to go back and revisit the climbing sections you weren't able to access from the beginning||

[split wagon]

||I see||

||I'll go backtrack and check||

[split wagon]

||got it, thanks! :D||

[timber spoke]

||yeah, they aren't on soundtrack at all unfortunately||

[safe abyss]

(SPOILERS FOR A BIG SECRET)
||Why is it that i've seen multiple people jump on the theory that Mike is somehow Gaster???????????||

||Like, that is just dumb||

[round olive]

Reallllly late reply, but (Chapter 4 Secret Boss)

||In some of Gerson’s dialogue in Undertale, he talks about how Undyne would follow him everywhere as a kid due to him being a hero in the war. So he’s likely a big factor of why she became Captain of the Royal Guard… also there’s the fact that their fights use the same soul mode but that’s more obvious.||

[safe abyss]

||This was before we actually had the game, so I didn't know about the Soul Mode connection.
Still, those are all very fair points.||

[round olive]

||Yeah honestly I was just looking for an excuse to talk about the Undyne connection Lmao ||

[split wagon]

I just finished chapter 4

[safe abyss]

||Reload your save file for more content||

[split wagon]

||WHAT||

||OMG||

[opal pumice]

now i understand the "but..." in that one sweepstakes page

[split wagon]

||I AM CLOVER UNDERTALE YELLOW||

[opal pumice]

||deltarune yellow||

[split wagon]

||WHY IS IT RECORDING MY HARDWARE THINGS AND STUFF||
||where am i going with this...||

[safe abyss]

||:)||

[opal pumice]

||where'd you get the code for the mike room||

[safe abyss]

||If you reload your finished Chapter 4 file a path to Castle Town opens and a note with the code is added next to the door iirc||

[opal pumice]

||dang it's post-game content||

[split wagon]

whoops i gotta go do stuff irl

[safe abyss]

||Well there is an alternate way to figure out the code early||

||It just requires some specific real-life information and thinking||

[split wagon]

||im guessing it's from digging in the game's files?||

[safe abyss]

||Nope||

Solution/Answer to thing currently talked about
||Old phones had 3 letters corresponding to each number, you can figure it out it if you write "MIKE" with the numbers in such a way||

[inland dagger]

ch4 ||so im at the golden piano thing, i have the first and middle parts of the puzzle, wheres the end portion found?||

[opal pumice]

ah, ||hence 6453||

||the sequence would be 64445533 i believe||

[old bramble]

does someone know where to put ||the egg|| from chapter 4

[inland dagger]

chapter 4 secret boss(i think??) ||aint no fuckin way gerson is the secret boss and has motifs from undyne's boss themes (cant remember which one specifically its from)||

ch4 secret boss ||wait does healing also count for progress towards winning this fight||

[old bramble]

Yup! ||you can spam defend and heals and win||

[inland dagger]

ch4 secret boss ||damn that was so much easier than chapter 3's, or even jevil and spamton for that matter||

||also both this boss and chapter 3's rewarding you with weapons no matter what is, interesting||

[safe abyss]

||God some of the optional dialogue for|| (BIG SECRET SPOILERS) ||Mike is really funny||

||Toby really is just venting his frustrations with the fanbase here||

||Holy shit he's real|| (MORE OF THE SAME STUFF FROM ABOVE)

[fathom canopy]

hey chat so i just completed chapter 3 and i wanna know if i missed something (obvs big chapter three spoilers below)
||i got shadowmantle, the knight shard, the geaster egg, spamtong pipis scene... anything im missing? is mike in this chapter or 4?||

||also where is ramb is finding them a chapter 3 thing or 4||

[safe abyss]

||Mike is in 4||

[fathom canopy]

oh okay

so i think i can start it now!

[split wagon]

chapter 4 ||post-game|| spoilers
||PLUEY IS REAL||

[honest nest]

||https://youtu.be/UtF0aFVxp3U?si=Ws72uk2WyLgXm45Y|| someone already made a no-hit TAS of the chapter 3 secret boss lol

[old bramble]

kudos to this uploader for the spoil free thumbnail and title

[safe abyss]

I'd assume everybody here already beat Chapter 3 so i'm gonna ask
||Does ANYONE KNOW WHERE THE HELL THIS PLAYS?!!?||

||You can't do the Bonus Round normally I don't think, so where the hell is this used???||

||Is it a "Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans" type thing where Toby made a song purely as a troll??||

||This theme even has the Don't Forget leitmotif for some reason, even though Chapters after 1 generally use it less||

[honest nest]

welp, time for chapter 4

[honest nest]

reverse kudos to the TWO non-spoiler-in-thumbnail-free ||weird route|| videos youtube has already recommended me

[honest nest]

||i have no idea, i also thought it was just a purposefully unused song for the area you were "supposed" to go to||

[safe abyss]

||Either Tony did one of his Tricks or there's something we've missed||

[honest nest]

https://tenor.com/view/scott-cawthon-toby-fox-deltarune-matpat-undertale-gif-6167844581461217726

just started chapter 4, i'm already impressed by ||HOW I'M ALREADY IMPRESSED BY THE FREAKING LOGO BEFORE EVEN STARTING THE CHAPTER!!!||

1. ||these outfits are hilarious||
2. ||TORIEL USING HER FUCKING UNDERTALE SPRITE??? LIKE 1:1???||

[inland dagger]

finished chapter 4

holy peak

that was fucking amazing holy shit

||WHAT THE FUCK A CONFIRMED RELEASE DATE FOR CHAPTER 5??||

[honest nest]

the sprites in these two chapters are absolutely S tier (early chapter 4)

[balmy reef]

I just beat chapter 3

The ending was crazy

[pearl bridge]

||If only we could see Kris be themselves more often 😔||

[honest nest]

||https://fxtwitter.com/UnderTale/status/1930946248720499114|| first chapter 3+4 hotfix released

UNDERTALE / DELTARUNE (@UnderTale)

We have uploaded our first hotfix patch for DELTARUNE on Steam! Steam should update the game automatically, all you have to do is launch the game again after. Now, back to fixing the next set of bugs...

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FxTwitter · Jun 6, 2025, 11:13 AM

[pearl bridge]

Aw the account stopped being Gaster. It was like that until now

[split wagon]

ch3 secret boss discussion
||ok i thought the secret boss encounter in that digital world thing was the only one in this chapter, and if I'm hearing this correctly, there's actually another one??||

[pearl bridge]

||You get the shadow crystal by fighting something at the end of the chapter. Something you need the shadow mantle to fight it with||

[split wagon]

||i see||

||i haven't actually replayed the chapter and fought the other secret boss myself, just watched someone else play through it||

[pearl bridge]

||You've already played chapter 3?||

[split wagon]

||of course||

||both chapters||

[pearl bridge]

||You get the shadow crystal by "beating" the knight|| (Chapter 3 final boss)

[split wagon]

||im just watching someone play through them ||

||intriguing, thanks for the info ||

[inland dagger]

both chapters ||the difficulty difference between the secret boss of chapter 3 and 4 is crazy honestly||

||one is probably the hardest fight in the game and the other might be the easiest of the 4 so far||

[honest nest]

still early chapter 4 ||LMFAOOO SANS CONTINUES TO BE THE FUNNIEST CHARACTER EVER||

[split wagon]

ch3 secret ||oh I just found out the knight IS the other secret boss||
||I just thought it was another new character ||

[balmy reef]

I started to do this minigame before I started chapter 4

[honest nest]

||don't mess with me and my gang||

[honest nest]

spoiler images!!!!

[honest nest]

"early" (it's been over 2 hours but i've made no progress) chapter 4 question: ||am i able to know the code yet||

||dang its not 1997||

[safe abyss]

||Technically it isn't actually said in-game yet but you could figure it out if you know how to think||

[honest nest]

hmm

https://tenor.com/view/richard-watterson-think-remember-i-rember-i-forgor-gif-22847457

||can i get a hint ||

[safe abyss]

||Nokia||

||That's the hint, very vague sorry||

[honest nest]

wut

[safe abyss]

||If I gave more details it's be too obvious i'm being genuine||

[honest nest]

[safe abyss]

||Just look up a picture of a Nokia or some other old phone and go from there||

[honest nest]

||oh right those phones where you can press numbers multiple times to type letters||

||that was my first guess but i just assumed you couldn't spell anything with that because there's only 4 numbers lol||

[calm furnace]

POST CHAPTER 4: WE GOTTA KILL TOBY FOX MAN ||https://vxtwitter.com/_kyregcy/status/1930693221283156099||

rayo (@_kyregcy)

ASKFNSKFBSL

QRT: tobyfox
After you finish Chapter 4, make sure to load up your save file one more time afterwards. There might have been something you missed!

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jun 5, 2025, 6:28 PM

[honest nest]

||bruh, you don't press the numbers multiple times, that's why that works lol. that's kinda weird||

||WAIT OH MY GOD IS THIS THE FUCKING SWITCH 2 MOUSE MINIGAME||

[inland dagger]

||so is the whole "mike" thing just, toby making fun of the insanity that the fandom has come up with over the years||

[safe abyss]

||Yeah
He probably WAS a reference to the soda commercial lmao||

||Either that or his role was always Tenna's perpetually off-screen stagehand and the fans accidentally jumped on him being an important boss||

[inland dagger]

||so how many things does "mike" reference from the fandom||

||i see "friend inside me" again||

[honest nest]

CALL THIS CHAPTER 3 THE WAY I HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT IS HAPPENING

[safe abyss]

||I think it's only the "Mike is a cat" theory and Friend Inside Me||

||Though the first Mike is also close to an old fan design before we knew about Tenna, just with a microphone instead of a TV||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 might already be my favorite chapter

AND I HAVEN'T EVEN PROGRESSED THE STORY YET

[inland dagger]

end of chapter 4 ||so like, chapter 5 is when the festival is supposed to happen right, and theres also tons of hints towards asgore getting involved in the dark world stuff somehow||

[honest nest]

||COWBOY SECRET BOSS COWBOY SECRET BOSS COWBOY SECRET BOSS COWBOY SECRET BOSS

WOODY THEORY WAS FUCKING RIGHT????? KINDA?????||

[inland dagger]

||only right because toby thought it hilarious to make fun of||

||so i wouldnt even say "the theory is right" its more toby having a lot of ironic fun at the insane theory's expense||

[safe abyss]

||I mean no this is a reference to Woody Theory||

[balmy reef]

Man chapter 4 is starting a weird way

[honest nest]

HE'S JUST LIKE ME FR!!!!!!! (chapter 4 start. yes, it's been almost 3 hours and i still haven't progressed)

[inland dagger]

||oh god okay yeah that whole thing is just "toby pokes fun at the fandom" huh||

[safe abyss]

||I've seen so many people cope and go "NO MIKE IS STILL IMPORTANT NO HE'S REAL AND HE MATTERS AND" dude just give up||

[shrewd dove]

||isnt there a boss fight against mike? Or did youtube baited me||

[inland dagger]

||tbf he was "important" in the sense that he was helping tenna's whole show keep going||

[safe abyss]

||Not spoiling but just wait until you do it before clicking any of the spoiler tags around now||

[honest nest]

||OH MY GOD IT'S PLUEY||

[safe abyss]

||I mean yeah he's important in-universe but from a storytelling perspective he's a gag||

[inland dagger]

yeah

[safe abyss]

||Just there so Tenna has a generic assistant to talk to because that would be funny||

[inland dagger]

||presumably also helped spamton as an assistant in the past then too? i kinda forgot what spamton's dialog regarding mike even was||

[honest nest]

||FREEDOM MOTIF
IS IT NOT ACTUALLY THE FREEDOM MOTIF ANYMORE??||

[safe abyss]

||He kinda just mentions him out of nowhere I think||

[safe abyss]

||Never was||

||I've been SAYING you all jumped the gun||
||Like twice at least||

[inland dagger]

ch4 secret boss ||i mean arguably with gerson the concept of freedom still is there, he never mentions freedon explicitly but you can sorta interpret his whole thing about "the prophecy has been retold a bunch, stories get retold in new ways" can be that||

[pearl bridge]

^^^^ Rhv dont click

[safe abyss]

||I think they're talking about the music for one of the Mike minigames||

[inland dagger]

i know

[pearl bridge]

In case you thought ||it was about mike||

[honest nest]

i mean yeah it says ch4 secret boss of course i'm not clicking it yet

[safe abyss]

||Small Mike's minigame (Battat) features it||

[inland dagger]

||i just mean that for the bosses themselves freedom seems like a motif, but the song thing itself isnt||

[safe abyss]

||Yeah the bosses have it as a theme, but the motif for the music shouldn't be called that||

[inland dagger]

||id assume at this point the song motif might just be a secret boss thing in general||

||so i guess itd just be "the secret boss motif" lmao||

[safe abyss]

||Honestly i'd say "Shadow Crystal Motif" works||

[inland dagger]

anyway im lazy to find the rest of the secrets in ch3 and ch4 + i will need to replay ch4 when i beat the chapter 3 secret boss

so time to go on youtube and see like
everything ive missed

[shrewd dove]

Soeaking of

Ch3 ||the knight doesnt has the freedom/shadow crystal motif||

[honest nest]

IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING ||AMONG US REFERENCE||

😭😭😭😭😭

[inland dagger]

ch4 secret boss ||wait i just realized it was never confirmed before this that dragon blazers was basically just "deltarune as a game in universe" or something right, but gerson saying it was based on the prophecy (or rather, based on his books which were based on prophecy)basically means it is sorta canon right?||

[safe abyss]

||Allegedly the most recent patch changed an animation in Chapter 4 Weird route||
(Chapter 4 but only if you did Snowgrave in Chapter 2 spoilers)

[inland dagger]

||wait theres a chapter 4 weird route?||

[safe abyss]

||No but the Chapter 2 one affects Chapter 4 heavily||

[honest nest]

oh fuck this might be the hardest dialogue choice yet
||kris x berdly ship for all the truthers,|| or ||A FUCKING UNDERTALE FUN VALUE REFERENCE????||

i gotta choose the first one

....................(internally screams)

[pearl bridge]

(Chapter 4 datamine mucho spoilers)
||https://youtu.be/NyG087DfPWw?si=TB_ZigMbUSHrGtO3 ||

||THIS IS IT. CAROL. IS. THE KNIGHT.||

||Like if it weren't hard to dispute before...this is the smoking gun||

[pliant loom]

Question does anyone know where the switch 2 room is?

[safe abyss]

||It's in Castle Town, but sharing more details would be spoilers||

[inland dagger]

||mayor knight enjoyers are eating good damn||

[hearty knoll]

Just finished chapter 4 I’m goin’ crazy

[pliant loom]

||oh it’s mike||

[pearl bridge]

||Me watching people call the knight Dess at this very moment||

[safe abyss]

||WHY AM I SO BAD AT GIVING VAGUE HINTS?!||

[pliant loom]

Am I right?

I finished it on switch 1 btw

[north jetty]

BIZARRE CHAPTER 3 SECRET WAS JUST FOUND
||https://fixupx.com/jmoriboy/status/1930770914074833257?t=PlI_Dvj9HP1nuV34jqhHtQ&s=19||

* It’s off. 🫀 (@jmoriboy)

( deltarune spoilers #deltarunespoilers )
︀︀
︀︀something really fucking weird just happened. has anyone else found this 🧵

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▶ Play video

FixupX · Jun 5, 2025, 11:37 PM

[pliant loom]

I am planning on replaying when the patch drops

[inland dagger]

||ive seen how you get this, you gotta input exactly 1225 points into the gacha machine||

||fuckin "fnaf 1 1987 in the custom night" ass secret||

[pearl bridge]

HOLY SHIT

||THATS EVIL||

[balmy reef]

Holy shit chapter 4 battle theme slaps

[pearl bridge]

Can you uh

Tag that, not everyone's there yet

[safe abyss]

||The title of the track implies it's gonna be used for at least the next few chapters btw||

[inland dagger]

||very rpg of the game to adopt a new battle theme for its second half||

[safe abyss]

There's already a ||It's TV Time!|| with lyrics video lmao

[pearl bridge]

(Chapter 4 house) ||https://youtu.be/UeSzu8XE2VA?si=X1q0jyfOjvMrUFv9 ||

||You can see Kris reacting to the conversation||

[safe abyss]

||I saw on twitter earlier that apparently when Susie is talking about Kris' flirting skills you can see Kris blushing lmao||

||It's very faint though||

[pearl bridge]

Is this...a coincidence? (Chapter 4 house)

||Note that lost girl is playing from that jukebox which triggers the conversation||

[inland dagger]

ch3 ||it just clicked that tenna's "unique text" might be like, his version of spamton's weird [TEXT] stuff||

[shrewd dove]

||spamton was mimicking him||

||they were friends after all||

[honest nest]

||NEW BATTLE THEMEEEEEE||

[balmy reef]

Slaps by the way

[north jetty]

It... uhh...

Maayyyyybeeeeeeeee????

[pearl bridge]

Im probably looking a tad into it

[inland dagger]

ch4 ||do we even have to spoiler that the end credits mention that chapter 5 is next year||

[honest nest]

I SWEAR TO GOD IF ||JARU'S "GERSON GETS REVIVED IN THE DARK WORLD"|| THEORY IS ACTUALLY FUCKING TRUE (chapter 4 dark world)

||i love how these games can go from insanely serious lore drops to the stupidest jokes imaginable that will ALWAYS make you laugh||

[safe abyss]

HOLY SHIT THIS GUY GOT IT RIGHT

||Some random guy from 8 days before release lands on the exact title of a Chapter 3 track lmao||

[balmy bridge]

||I'm gonna go replay my chapter 4 savefile||

||Seems like I missed the "holy water"||

[pearl bridge]

Chapter 4/Weird route ||So apparently they changed the animation for when you force Kris to give Noelle the thorn in the light world||

[safe abyss]

||Yeah, the misinterpretations regarding that scene were quite.... intense||

[split elbow]

chat, anyone got any non spoilery hints to not miss the chapter 4 secret boss?

[balmy bridge]

Look around areas you previously visited after you ||get the climbing gear||

[split elbow]

ok

thx

[safe abyss]

||A sign near a fireplace has some hints too||

[split elbow]

also from what i get

||the egg is after the secret boss right?||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 dark world but also chapter 3 secrets ||OH MY GOD??? IT'S THE WIZARD WHO TELLS YOU HOW TO GET THE EGG IN CHAPTER 3????||

[safe abyss]

||I guess there ARE books in Toriel's home, so it makes sense||

[north jetty]

Ch3

[pearl bridge]

I
Didn't even realize

Oh

No

[opal pumice]

||how'd she get to the church from the mansion though||

||my one thought would be that she just took the back door but||

[safe abyss]

||Tenna's entire character is about abandonment issues lmao||

[hearty knoll]

||I know it’s not gonna happen but my dumbass has hooked onto the idea that Dess is the knight somehow||

[inland dagger]

ch3 ||genuinely tenna's whole thing of missing how happy things were in the dreemurr family (and the holidays by extension) before something went down is really depressing||

[calm furnace]

||There was no misinterpretation lol that’s what the animation was implying. Especially if you read between the lines in the chapter 2 weird route of forcing Noelle and Kris into a traditional heterosexual romance||

[safe abyss]

||I mean i'd say the animation being changed shows it wasn't the intent||

||Why else would they do that?||

[pearl bridge]

||I think it was meant to be analogous but not literal||

||Like how the weird route was analogous to forcing romance||

[calm furnace]

||Oh I was never saying it was literal, it was symbolic the whole time, but the implications with how it was originally were obvious. The fact it was changed implies it was a mistake on Toby and Team’s part||

[inland dagger]

ch4 ||what the fuck do you mean theres a track named The place where it rained||

[minor delta]

||is it safe to talk about Jackenstein now?||

[shrewd dove]

||nice fucking job toriel and asgore, you traumatized the tv||

[honest nest]

||OH MY GOD IT'S THE FUCKING SPOOKTUNE LEITMOTIF WHICH WAS TEASED IN A BLUESKY POST|| chapter 4 dark world

[safe abyss]

||I mean it's fine to talk about anything as long as it's in spoiler tags and has a warning like this ||(GENERIC SPOILER WARNING FOR SHOWCASE PURPOSES)

[south lion]

||you’re taking too long :(||

[safe abyss]

||you're taking too long IS TAKING TOO LONG||

[opal pumice]

||YOUR L O N G||

[pearl bridge]

||YOUR TOO TOO||

[opal pumice]

||mamma mia||

[safe abyss]

||Jackenstein is such a great character||

||Jackenstein haters DNI||

[unique phoenix]

in the middle of ch3 rn, this game is making me feel so gd dumb

[opal pumice]

||why would you hate jackenstein...||

||he's a sweet lad||

||big baby boy||

[safe abyss]

||I've seen some people hate him because his boss fight is hard||
||Which, I haven't played the game yet, only watched others, but he doesn't look too hard||

[opal pumice]

by the way question

||what unique items are in the ball machine||

[honest nest]

||contender for the SECOND strangest boss fight in the game (first is still rouxls in chapter 3)||

[opal pumice]

||i wanna ask because i wanna do the 1225 secret but that looks like it ends the ball machine so i'd wanna make sure i got everything it could offer me before that||

[safe abyss]

||Chapter 3 Rouxls is what people kept expecting his boss fight to be in the Chapter 1 days (him literally changing the rules), but it was done in an infinitely better way than any of those predictions||

||If we ever got a serious Rouxls fight I think the world would literally explode, he has theoretically infinite power||

[pearl bridge]

||https://youtu.be/SfbEH1K6xAk?si=qm7ObO1s_wezyGjT || Chapter 4 early dark world
||Woah you can beat this section???||

||And Kris....doesn't engage the knight! Who would've thought.||

[split elbow]

||i had a feeling this was possible||

also where's the moss in chapter 4, it's not really important but it definitely is there since it's been in every chapter so far

and it's funny

[opal pumice]

it just hit me a while back that ||kris left the door open at the end of chapter 2 so that the knight could come in||

[safe abyss]

||Probably slashed the tires to lure Undyne over too||

[opal pumice]

||so remember when susie sees the prophecy of how 'the girl fell in love' and went on ahead telling kris to stay behind||

||turn right at that moment and there's a door on the other side of that hall||

[pearl bridge]

||This begs the question...why was the Knight going to take Toriel initially. Kris certainly wouldn't agree to that themselves||

[unique phoenix]

ch3 question ||- can anyone tell me if i need to beat the susiezilla game with a good score to get The Good Stuff ™️ ?||

[north jetty]

Ch3 music
||https://youtu.be/KAtudLu42vA||

Damn, legally distinct ||Zelda 1|| is kinda a bop!

[safe abyss]

||Can't wait for the Chapter 7 Kris secret boss where a grand reprise of this starts playing (This is only partially a joke)||

[opal pumice]

y'know what's interesting to me

||the game is clearly dragon blazers 2||

[pearl bridge]

(Chapter 3 secret area)
||https://youtu.be/z1dujgzhcuw?si=RS0TY05cMvzIlyo5 ||
||What did Toby mean by this||

[safe abyss]

||Actually the title screen (before it cuts to the NO CONTROLLER screen) seemingly says "Mantle"||

[opal pumice]

i mean it does say ||something like "[shadow?] mantle"||

[unique phoenix]

plez i beg u i dont wanna look it up 💔

[opal pumice]

||but the game is clearly meant to be dragon blazers 2 considering the whole ice palace segment||

and that's interesting to me considering ||as we learn from gerson and susie in chapter 5, dragon blazers (at least the first game) was an adaptation of lord of the hammer (with artistic liberties taken much to the chagrin of some hardcore fans of the book series)||

||lord of the hammer itself is gerson's reimagining of the deltarune prophecy||

[balmy bridge]

Auughh...

||So Krusie...||

||wtf with Kris' rizz anyway, he getting fucking everyone||

[hearty knoll]

||If by “Good Stuff” you mean the egg and Secret Boss then I don’t think so..? You only need to S-Rank the first and second board to get to the secret boss. If you didn’t S-Rank ‘em I believe you gotta do the whole chapter again,,, as for the egg, I’m not sure, honestly, best to wait for someone else to answer that one before trying the secret boss, cuz I do know you gotta do something before the second board for its. I think.||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 dark world ||"lol imagine if he is the secret boss", i said comedically, moments before realizing that he is definitely a secret boss

anyway susie continues to be the main character of deltarune||

holy shit this music is incredible ||I LOVE UNDYNE'S LEITMOTIFS||

[north jetty]

||Technically they're Gerson's leitmotifs||

[honest nest]

||OH
MY
FUCKING
GOD
I WAS JOKING!!!!!!||

[hearty knoll]

||I’m an overly sensitive and emotional person. Hearing Spear of Justice’s leitmotifs made me tear up a little, bro||

[north jetty]

[pearl bridge]

||During the looney tunes moment in Dess' closet Susie and Noelle literally discuss Kris' rizz abilities 😭😭||

||Well if you let them anyways||

[unique phoenix]

||oh, well, i didn't S-rank the first board, so I'm cooked 🔥 ||

[hearty knoll]

||You and me both 😔||

[unique phoenix]

||its a litle lame ngl||

[minor delta]

||YOUR KING||

[hearty knoll]

||Oh definitely, ‘specially cuz you have to redo the whole chapter again. But I guess it is what it is :/||

[safe abyss]

||You can pay an NPC to get S rank anyways||

[honest nest]

||NOOO NOT THE FUCKING DIAGONALS
I SUCKED AT THOSE IN RIBBIT MOD||

[unique phoenix]

where

[safe abyss]

||In the room below the green room there's a Pippins with sunglasses at the bottom||

||He'll sell S rank to you for Points||

[minor delta]

||i hope jackenstien gets memed||

||toby straight up made a ytp within his own game||

[unique phoenix]

||can this be done after beating the first board||

[safe abyss]

||I think so.||
||Never saw someone use it, but on a stream I watched they were down there after Board 1||

[unique phoenix]

||do you know if playing The Real Game before getting an S-rank on board 1 will lock me out||

[honest nest]

this is incredible dude

[safe abyss]

||You can't play the real game without S rank||

||It's physically impossible||

[unique phoenix]

||Yes, but to get everything in The real game you need S ranks in both boards, right? I got an S rank on board 2, but not 1, so i could play it||

[shrewd dove]

||kind of? however you can cheat it by earning enough points||

[safe abyss]

||I think so??||
||idk man I haven't even played it myself yet I watched 2 playthroughs||

[shrewd dove]

||theres a pippin outside the green room who will give you S rank if you give them 1500 points||

[unique phoenix]

||that pippin isnt showing up for me sob||

[pearl bridge]

||(Re-analyzes scene again)||
||Oh..we...didn't knock Susie into Kris they pulled her back. Did the sprite almost kill susie here???||

[silent dock]

I've finished chapter 4

wow.

just wow.

[safe abyss]

GOD I hate online wikis

[round olive]

Chapter 4 general spoilers

||I love how Gerson ended up being the Undertale character with the most hype moments and aura in this game and he isn’t even alive lmao
||

[safe abyss]

||The Deltarune wiki is at the moment spreading misinformation, filled with stubs, and awfully redundant.||

||And I just KNOW if I edit it it'll be reverted for no reason||

||And that's for the pages that AREN'T protected||

[unique phoenix]

follow-up question, ||starting the last/bonus board is NOT what i want to do, right?||

':>

[silent dock]

uh

how to answer this without spoilers

||you won't be able to start it||

[unique phoenix]

i feel like its a yes/no question

[safe abyss]

||Try it, you won't lose anything||

[unique phoenix]

||im just kinda lost cuz people are telling me there's a pippins with shades that i can pay for an S rank, but he's not there||

so im just gonna continue, but not save

[silent dock]

I mean yeah, that's gonna happen when the game has only been released for 2 days
it'll come down eventually, and get more accurate over time

[safe abyss]

Well yes, but my anger at not being able to contribute is irritating me
No, we don't need to list both ||Dig! Dig to the center of the earth! from Chapter 3 AND lancer-spin.mp3 from the Sweepstakes on the Leitmotif page, they're the same thing.
Too bad the page is PROTECTED||

[honest nest]

chapter 4 secret boss ||SUSIE'S AXE'S LIGHT WORLD EQUIVALENT CONFIRMED??||

[inland dagger]

i thought we knew this already?

at least it feels like something revealed before

[safe abyss]

Heavily implied before

[shrewd dove]

||the pippins is outside the green room on the down exit||

[inland dagger]

end of ch4 ||im genuinely starting to question if kris's relationship with susie is even real or if its also something we as a player kinda push||

||like the way they are most definitely working with the knight and against the goals of us the player and stuff but is there anything to even grasp at how they feel with susie||

[round olive]

||Kris seems to be slowly gaining a greater sense of autonomy if the piano scene and Shadow Mantle mini game are anything to go by, so all the moments of them acting weird with Susie is making me lean towards it being genuine.||

[molten sigil]

||they have a lot of bits together that aren't spurred on by the soul||

like ||them pouring punch into each others' mouths||

[inland dagger]

||its mainly just im kinda not sure how to read their whole "probably working with the knight/some sinister force but also is friends with someone actively trying to stop said force" thing||

[round olive]

||I imagine there’s something in the Bunker they REALLY don’t want anyone to see.||

[inland dagger]

||frankly i think just the entire idea of kris being the knight's accomplice has me rethinking all of their relationships||

||like, do they actually care about toriel and was genuinely wanting to save them against the knight in spite of a possible working relationship with them or do they give no shits about their own mother?||

[safe abyss]

||The possibility of Kris genuinely being a horrible person interests me||

||Also i'm just gonna say why did Susie barely react to the fact Kris has just been carrying around a damn knife the entire time|| (CHAPTER 4)

[inland dagger]

ch4 ||also kris like, didnt help susie or ralsei up when they were all getting hit by the swords on the way to the knight||