#Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=td4yUMu_RFM NEICHEL IN THE THUMBNAIL
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he asked about facts about this game on twitter and i gave him like 3 replies about neichel so there's a good chance i show up in this video (don't spoil it if i do though, i'll watch it in like 10 minutes or so)
Kirby in the hat is so cute
imagine if mike was an ability in forgotten land and the final evolution was based on neichel
WHAT IF AIR RIDERS HAS A NEICHEL COSTUME FOR MIKE
it would be too peak
That would go so fucking hard
Magolor Neichelā¦.
gooey neichel
ok he doesn't talk about lore stuff which is fair lol
NEICHEL HAT
"why make a switch version for forgotten land"
cause HAL wanted to
there ive used five of my active braincells
Why make a Switch 2 ver?
Simply because Switch 2 was brought up and FL would be perfect game to utilize the power and make them look more fascinating
HAL already wanted to utilize the world of FL and play around with them more so it worked out perfectly and they got onto the work very fast 
(From Interview)
I hope the first 2D Kirby on the switch 2 is peak
so in short
they wanted to
i feel like people are sometimes way too "company make money" brained
I mean, sometimes thatās the case
sure
actually, because nintendo asked
i did feel like it did involve having a quick turnaround due to the shorter development time
The funny moment
having mouthful modes pre-existing also means they have a design to easily add onto compared to new abilities or any new gimmicks that would carry over to the rest of the game
keep Kirby's mouthful mode abilities past this game... begging
Its really funny that like
Mario's diagetic in-universe singer has like two games centered around her and its fun and then Kirby's diagetic in-universe singer is like Dead
so wait
they actually wanted to do more with that universe
...interesting
Well usually they just do one story and then move on to the next
they actually wanted to do more for this one somehow
just wait for the switch 3 edition
Hear me out
Neichel will be the side story final boss of the next kirby game
She will be the morpho knight of the next kirby
See you guys in 1 year to see if i was right
I'd be down
I cant see a singer wanting to throw hands for some reason lmao
we alr fought her with magolor...
Im sure that we can give her a fun and badass moveset
This is one of those theories where I'm going "I don't buy it... There's no logic here. But it's funny so I'll allow it"
Maybe use the idea of her getting corrupted by elfilis
Tried to remake genwel in gmod how well did i do
Its not bad
Beat uczex with base kirby w/o buffa
had to go as far as using amiboo but who cares WWW
You know what
Fuck it
Im going to try beating the uczex abilityless after gartic phone
I JUST REMEMBERED, I WAS RIGHT! WOHOOO
man, i kinda hope sammy does an unofficial cover of last song (unfinished) as neichel someday...
maybe for 35th music fest š /J
Star Crossed World has been out for an entire month! This edit would have come out like an entire 3 weeks ago, but I felt it was too early to release it, but here we are now! This edit is a sequel to the "Super Ultra Hyper Deluxe Finale Frenzy" edit I did last year with all the button mash sequences at the end of the Kirby games! But this time, ...
This edit is sooo good
Galactal Nova
Camera why š¤£
Have they ever talked about star allies and s2?
that would get to the heart of the matter 
do we really need void termina 4?
wasn't ABV enough?
If there's a SA S2 version, I kinda genuinely hope it's just like FPS type stuff and not another mode
they're going to save it for the 35th anniversary and add Galacta Knight/Elfilin/next mainline main character as an extra wave
I know I don't talk in this server much, if at all, but this has been bothering me the past couple of days, so I was hoping somebody here could help give me some answers. I tried asking a few times in the WiKirby server to no response, so...yeah. Anyway...
The avalanche of "And here we are!" voice clips for the attack of the same name in The Ultimate Cup Z EX is super hard to make out in the heat of a chaotic boss fight (at least until we can directly extract Switch 2 game data and the appropriate BFSAR in question, anyway). From what little gameplay videos I've watched, I can at least 100% confirm that it always begins with the English, Japanese, Canadian French and Latin American Spanish voices, plus a bit of Italian near the middle, and ends with the Korean, English, Japanese and Canadian French "And here we are!" voices, and then "Welcome, visitors" in both English and Japanese. It's mostly the European French, German, European Spanish and Dutch voice recordings that I'm having trouble deciphering, assuming they're even there at all to begin with...
The reason I'm asking this is not just because I genuinely want to know (y'know, sound design geek and all), but also because I have plans to do something similar in an upcoming film project of mine, so that way I can make it as clear-cut of a pop-culture reference as I can get with the limited sound files I have access to.
Undocumented attack I played like 3 seconds and its galactals its gonna be the one where they travel together in a hexagon isn't it
Yea ok there it is lol
And lol the funny invisible wall glitch again
This user was screaming they were the first person to find the attack and Iām like okay okay let me post it on the server first
This is what I'm saying bro why did they not realize they needed to make the camera switch to forgo
Or do a bird's eye view of the whole room after the dreamygar or something
This is exactly how I receive tons of damage because I couldnāt figure out where I was in the room
Not counting this video itself I've seen the attack twice
It is incredibly late into his patterns
Yeah, most people will destroy Mefilis before they get to this part of the late pattern lol
Doesn't help that there are attacks Genwel only does after a certain amount of health (The building variations obviously) and idk if this might be one of them
Yeah, like, I knew what was to happen because this is not my first time seeing this boss and I know where to run. But man lol This camera did not play nice here
Oh since the spoiler thread has been archived better repost this here lmao
Did they change the requirement for announcer Deeās figure in SCW
IK in base itās for beating cup 3, does the switch 2 version keep it like that or is it locked behind cup 4 instead?
Yes its still gotten for beating UCZ
Same for the theatre dee, nothing's unlock is changed to require SCW stuff
B/c that wouldn't make any sense with carrying your save file over
Ah ok
Odd
Probably easier to code it that way then some conditional āif they have it they keep it if not change requirement upon upgradeā
Even ignoring whether it would be easier or not why would you do it
Technicality
definitely
can't fly too close to the sun if you're using an infinite height glitch instead of flying
game going awoof
Garuru
I Just Got jumpscared by this
boop
awoofy jumpscare 
So whatās the policy on spoilers at this point
Well, the embargo has been lifted so everything is fair game
Aha. Ok so I was wondering, was anyone else seriously expecting Galacta Knight to show up?

I mean aside from the fact that someone around here planted the idea in my head by predicting that Galacta Knight would be in the game, and pointing out that the starries all have what looks like the shape from Galacta Knightās armor on their faces
The fact that there are those enemies called āGALACTalsā
You can discuss about the entire game with no need for spoiler tag policy or using the SCW thread in the whole server
I guess it was all just a coincidence
honestly, no
because it would be way too obvious and predictable at the same time 
I guess in a way he was. Because he became Morpho Knight, hahahaā¦
Youāll get to see Magolor again when Air Riders comes out
tbf before this we already saw signs of increased advancements
all of Lab Discovera
And Lor? Ahaha~
plus Redgar as an extension
eternal capsule
He did??
Fa-lu-wa-a
also funny Epilogue music for ZEX Leon yeah
I donāt get it
Lowkey was surprising choice LOL I thought theyād do Magolor Epilogue music but I guess magoland works better in senses
ZEX reusing music all of a sudden is the funny
toid vermina korpho mnight
ZEX Leon reusing Magolor Epilogue literally made me vomit
for the last few no less
upset that it wasn't the void version of the song tho
both were under the control so therefore
I was super surprised at this! So bizarre
I mean Hope of Birth fits better overall
But the music is so epic I guess I didnāt care
Magolor Epilogue yoinking Scattered souls so Leon yoinked Judgement and Onward 
Void = Morpho theory raises suddenly
then you get the morpho version of the star conquering traveler
I got nostalgic when they played the revenge of meta knight music during meta knight fight
Star conquering traveler (Morpho knight version)
not really with the small connections those two already have lol

I await the next update to forgotten land where you fight morpho knight EX and it plays the void version
What connections?
anyway space ship
I didn't notice the others at first lol
only the one that was specifically shown in the backstory
I wanted to kiss spaceship
Morpho and Void Termina have something to do with each other?
I also wonder what's further underground
sub-tree, crystal, old tower and garden
since it matches with redgar man made
My house
wonder if NEW WORLD's underground is as bizarre as popstar's
you really are homestuck aren't you?
no wonder you got ants as friends

could ants live down there?
also wonder where the broken elevator originally leads to
Okay
Why werenāt Galactals just minibosses
Instead, thereās this weird half and half where they show up as normal enemies sometimes
experimenting
besides the obvious thing of appearing in Star Allies (and being final bosses of modes), eye stuff (specifically on sword for Morpho; worth noting concept art had sword be more Master Crown-esque too), both have Helper brainwashing moves (the only ones in SA to, even), Divine Terminus stuff, another dimension stuff, Morpho Knight EX and Soul Melter EX Void Termina have similar colors (Corrupt Hyness as well), fiery stuff, associations with afterlife places and death/destruction, etc.
mostly smaller things but they do add up
you can't inhale them
Okay, I donāt see the problem with that
we don't know their classification
I see
Eh
and they have done weird stuff with enemies and midbosses (and bosses) in the past
I never noticed the eye on Morpho Knightās Sword. Thatās a neat tidbit!
I think Galactals got done dirty due to the enemy format
hell, Adventure/NiDL had intentional skippable midbosses iirc
If they really didnāt want to make them minibosses, at least make their attack patterns less complex
or the optional ones
you'd find in optional rooms
including the Doomers in every AD section
meanwhile for classification shenanigans, like half of the Hypernova stuff you'd expect to be midbosses are enemies
then there's stuff like Gigavolt and C.O.G.S. in RBP being straight-up bosses
Or just create new minibosses that arenāt rehashes
why are y'all 'enemies'
That would be cool but scw and forgotten land donāt have anything like that, I think
there's Soul Forgo being a 'boss' I guess (instead of 'other')
being bosses before you clear the area
SA SA SA
you got the main boss
and then this mid of the world gimmick boss
as said and shown, official classification is ć¶ć³ (basically 'small enemy') lol
not to mention "gimmick" bosses don't always appear in the Arena
you get all the space shooters
yet grand mam is still stuck on that pebble of a planet
(for comparison, these are considered 'midbosses' (yes Cannon Tower is a midboss))
but anyway they've been doing weird stuff like this for a while now
i actually really like that kind of twist instead of giving usual fairly simple patterns 
Okay but they function as midbosses
that's funny because the birds are the flight equivalent to the moles from earlier
then the moles gain an EX member so later on
gauntlet of facing most in Royal Road
doesn't count as a mid-boss rush though?
just remembered Kracko Jr.'s Revenge is also considered just a 'boss' (probably partially because of having True Arena round to itself) lol
and not a 'midboss'
not an enemy gauntlet level either like in Ripple Star Stage 3
do you people prefer arenas being mostly random or fixed order
cuz it's always weird fighting kracko jr's revenge after kracko's revenge
If you can avoid it, itās an enemy
If it blocks your path intentionally then itās a midboss
Thatās what the hypernova midbosses do
And some Galactal fights do halt level progression
the doomers when they go from mid boss territory to boss status
I mean, some enemies also halt progression (mostly room guarders)
so it's a thin line sometimes
enemy ambushes
thank you SA
now normal enemies can also appear in the Arena too
(we do not count that one Waddle Dee)
I feel like thatās a different case besides explicit minibosses though
i think galactals have no visible health bar unlike other minibosses really help emphasize that off-vibe which i kinda love...
Enemy ambushes have been a staple in the series for a while
What do you think of my weird theory abt neichel possibly being a void termina incarnation
this is all Genwel's fault
Fecto after seeing the dishes werenāt washed yet by their brother:
From what Iāve seen of scw itās pretty good but I do understand others who think itās a bit lacking in certain areas
At least itās worth the price tag
Nah
Neichel is drawcia
Also why didnāt the Galactals just ambush Kirby? Are they stupid?
They fucking suck at it thats why
they were learning
after letting Kirby have the option to bypass entirely
in cahoots with the crystalized enemies
Theyād probably get steamrolled since Kirby is a lot stronger now but itās better than fighting him alone
I love how Japanese community started bombing the SCW content the second the one month silent spoiler rules ended LOL
oh god it has been a month now lol
No itās n- oh
2 weeks since i got my switch 2 holy shit 
I was scrolling through Twitter and forgot about it
Now I can finally talk in Japaneseā¦
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That section looks nerve wracking
the typical crushing segment
This segment gives me goosebumps
Starry Stages my beloved
Hi Gigi
Ah, Gigi has awoken
I got that one first time but that's actually funny that you just have to touch the platform to get it LOL I will add this to wikirby later
Very rare
btw I got that one too
Bandee reflection š š š š Also itās so funny how both Kirby and Bandeeās reflections on the crystal floor are literally not reflecting their back but their face https://x.com/ayamal1go/status/1972089724602130710?s=46
Yippee, Bandee in cutscenes
smh bad game!!
Itās a trick of the eyes
Some of these mission trigger point is SO funny
You fail but you didnāt
I donāt anyone will pay that close attention to reflections while battling Mefilis
So itās okay for it to be a bit wonky
My brain was already fried with air riders and Hankyu collab but
With SCW spoiler unlocked
Iām extra toasted
Probably because that fight requires switching abilities/partners, and they probably want you to be able to use whatever ability yiu want for the ultimate choice (or aren't you locked to your chosen ability? I can't remembering)
Realizing that HAL can just whip out Void's theme any time they want now
We should probably be scared of this
A bit of light decorating. š Which figures are you displaying?
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LMAO
Galactal is staring
Elfilis is flabbergasted
"WHY AREN'T YOU BURNING"
"funni lava on head go brr"
that's one way to do it
Look at the biggest loser who canāt even suck you up with blackhole
@obtuse berry
Smh HAL should've asked me why I didn't make the core move twice when they copied my attack smh smh ! ! !
genuinely u are a pioneer
Hearing the rest area music there, makes me imagine if Magolor Soul's second phase in the TA had INTERNAL STRUGGLE as the bg music
Look at the biggest loser who canāt even suck you up with blackhole
...
hydrogen baby vs crying bomb
Crying Bomb is my favorite ability evolution in Kirby and the Lost Mirror
People: Kirby's enemies are so strong they can create black holes and he's so fast that he can outrun them!
The black holes in question:
Hexagon shaped Void
"well clearly every single kirby character is just constantly moving at a speed faster than light, it only appears slower for the player because else the game wouldn't be fun"
^ genuine 100% unironic logic i have seen people use
Lowkey, this was foreshadowing /j
Last time it didnāt let me get it when I tried to, this time it let me get it when I wasnāt trying to get it </3
I was screaming āGIVE ME BACK MY MORPHO SWORDā and than the rest area give me Morpho sword so⦠based????
Oh yea for anyone wondering this was me asking yukkuri to test if Genwel's dimension laser still glitched out when catching Fire using the burn attack and the answer is no
So like I just remembered
When I was doing ZEX for the first time I skipped the cutscene for lord of chaos bcuz i thought it would be the exact same boss fight 
I can do basically anything in this game but I swear I can't do UCZEX with cutter what am I doing wrong
You're telling me I can win with drill first try to reach 32/33 abilities but I can't do cutter?!
Coincidentally, one of the few things it's good against is genwel, but it's too little too late
I'm so bad at arenas, but cutter strikes me as the kind of ability you either need to accept that the run will take three hours and play super defensive, or be hyper aggressive and hope you kill them before they kill you
I do somewhat disagree with that second song interpretation because for some reason it's more like
a lullaby that sounds more like it's trying to soothe the meteor than anything towards the people of the world
last one is pretty spot on though
well you are right
but as i understand it it was more of written based off the meteor prophecy
the when elfilis showed up they thought therem ight be some weight to its validity
I like that Elfilis has thorough history
I mean unfinished song was made to express Neichelās feelings and what happened in this world in past, and what she saw of the future in her dream, sadge song
BUT she was happy to be able to sing from deepest of her heart 
Makes them more interesting than most Kirby antagonists
And twinkling star showers basically mentions about how Neichel had a mixed feelings while working on the musicā¦
popslop
YES PLEASE
I DONT WANT NEW CONTENT JUST LET ME PLAY STAR ALLEIS AT STABLE 60
i mean i WOULD love a fixed level design but im not sure if they'd take the extra mile
I can't see them straight up changing the main game. Add stuff to another mode, yeah that's within the realm of what they've already done in other things (RtDX and SCW). But Star Allies already has SO MANY modes. It doesn't need more
Most i want is a star allies sequel in like 15 years with every new blorbo introduced since the original
I just would prefer a patch for Star Allies
Yes and 1080 minimum pls! (Also gameshare online because bro online multiplayer for the multiplayer Kirby game)
i still remember the release anticipation
Literally slightly over one year of the switch 1 launch
Also I would not want it to be locked behind $10 because like, what?!
Imagine they're holding out on star allies s2e until we get 2 more blorbos so we can get a wave 4 with elfilin, blorbo #2, and blorbo #3
Brobo........
True
put drawciaa

She was actually considered
Not to mention she is surprisingly important to the history of the series
Please do gameshare for literally ANY Switch Kirby plsss š
What if neichel is actually rlly depressed
Like outside of her appearances in public she's actually a really introverted person who has to deal with paparazzi and scandals
There is a double edged sword in that doing this may cause Kirby to just RUN INTO THE BLAST INSTEAD, particularly with the relatively short delay before detonation
You probably don't want the camera angle changes to be that sudden with an attack that fast
so you either have to change the perspective for the entire attack, or do what they ultimately went with which was just for the player to be alert about Soul Forgo's position
Not exactly the easiest thing to design around with the key component of Forgo Leon's claw swipe
I want the metaknight and dedede figurine so bad. š
i think you just gotta be more patient !!
I love Crystal Beast Pack something something
im glad they kept that track when they had to retool Meteor Shower Arrival
we needed more Super Kirby Clash main theme
Moonlight Labirynth is so sultry and for what
Ohara accidentally sent it to SCW instead of Kirby Cafe /j
Fujiko Mine Lupin the III apepars in the Forgotten Land and that track plays
where is Roche Limit CafƩ
Cafe 3 next year, trust
oops, all Northeast Frost Street remixes
this is a good thing
Oops all Meteoric Beast Battle
this is a good thing
The multilingual "And here we are!" voice clips from The Ultimate Cup Z EX have been driving me crazy for the past couple of weeks, but I think I've got most of those audio samples figured out. Keyword: most.
"And here we are!"
ćććć§ćÆ ć覧ćć ććļ¼ć
« Et nous y voilà arrivés! »
"”Por fin hemos llegado!"
[Probably Dutch, though the voice clip sounds more like "Automatische taaldetectie... geactiveerd." instead of "Daar zijn we dan!" to me...]
āUnd da wƤren wir auch schon!ā
"E ora vi presentiamo la forma di vita..."
[Probably the European French equivalent of « Et nous y voilà arrivés ! », but since it's so quiet, I can only make assumptions right now]
"”Ah, ya hemos llegado!"
ćź·øė¼ ģź°ķ©ėė¤!ć
"And here we are!"
ćććć§ćÆ ć覧ćć ććļ¼ć
« Et nous y voilà arrivés! »
"Welcome, visitors..."
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Until the day comes when Switch 2 game data can be directly extracted, this attempted transcription may very well be the best we've got, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
was the zine interview translated ir still in progress? where do i go to know?
I'm still translating it, about halfway done
but yukkuri shared the main points here already around a week ago
Yeahhhh itās in https://discord.com/channels/132720341058453504/1410236410564182097
oh right the spoiler thread
I went to continue translating and my internet died š
Itās telling you to go to sleep
Timezone? Screw it! Go to sleep anyways! Just like the ancients on the spaceship like twinkling star sho-
Hold Y to kill Elfilin š„ š„ š„ š„
Theyāre so evil for not mentioning pressing Y button in staff credit plays unfinished tra-
kuma: "what, you are expecting a direct answer?????"
HE SAID THE THING
"leave room for imagination"
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Oh yeah, forgor to mention, but i took a girl to a formal dance a week ago, and the song i played in my car to set the mood was Moonlight Canyon Labyrinth. She had no clue it was Kirby 
Itās some kind of Kirby Star Allies
the way this is worded is so kumazaki though
why does it feels like kumazaki's own kumazaki japanese gets 10 times more complex when he's giving answers to things like this LOL
Aura farming
should have said "and here we are" when you got there
kuma: don't worry about it
Kuma is a master at just not answering a question but still saying a lot of words
He will do anything to avoid answering the question and distracting us with different stuff
Toby Fox
it is very funny that in this interview his answers are always twice as long as ninomiya LOL
Heās probably like āKuma yap time, I will let him yapā
We should have a Kumayap translator
"That's too direct, I'm not answering that yet. This is an FL expansion so it expands FL's world for people who want FL expanded. It makes the game replayable for fans. You can wonder why the world is that way. Unless you don't give a shit. Then you can skippa skippa and the game still works. Also Void is Kirby and Galacta Knight is Kirby."
Wow just put this through Kuma yapping translator how cool is that
peak?????
This sticker is SO canon now (real)
Magolor and Neichel, lovers for life šš¤
Genwel x Nebby also canon hehe š¤
This purposefully resembling Dark Nebula will always be something I fully believe in even though objectively I would be the type of guy that sees someone say this and call them a dipshit
This is also totally a reference trust
All the GK fans got trolled so hard in this game (itās honestly satisfying /j)
Am I a bad person for thinking it's really funny that GK wasn't here?
No
Morpho Knight: āIām the new Galacta, fools!ā
āGet used to it!ā
āMorpho Knight EX? Whoās that guy? Forgot about him, no pun intended!ā
I can't even call it funny b/c it was obvious GK wouldn't be there 
We got the Elfilin family reunion instead
Kirby family reunions with Star Allies and games before
I expected a vague allusion to GK and we got it
The Galactals is the closest weāve gotten
I meant more the figure description for collection all starries in japanese, but also true
Oh yes this too
When the switch 2 gets hacked we will discover that you can see GK floating around just offscreen during the Genwel fight if you tilt the camera at the right time
Rejected š
HAL made the last minute decision to NOT include Galacta Knight or Morpho Knight EX
(Evil)
/j I donāt mind
Kumazaki: āLetās give Neichel more lore instead š„āļøā
Fraud Knight
i do think it was super crazy that they gave the starries time travel abilities that are literally just not relevant
GK and MKEX were deleted to make room for the prophecy š£ļøš£ļøš£ļø
kumazaki just playing for the sake of the long con
Sometimes I feel bad that GK missed out on SCW but then I remembered his greedy ass was already a final boss in SKC
Thought the Galactals having a name like that was even meaner lmao
I just need snippets of the metaknight and dedede lore
It's such a funny name
but that damn astrologist dee only gives me doubles...
can't wait for starries to appear in the next remake just to explain why things are different
I need need NEED Neichel to wear that Lor Starcutter costume next anniversary concert ššš (that is my dream, to confirm all of our theories)
you thought this was just a remake of Kirby 64 and then the starries change the timeline to let BWD be playable 
Kumazaki = Magolor
Too bad, she only wears Lor themed high heels with no elaboration. The rest of the costume is the same as the previous concert
Implying that starries can speak to Kirby 
Star Crossed World Spoilers:
||Idea for Kirby fanart- Nichel singing with Elfilin, Elfilis, MeteonElfilis and the Starries on the Lor Starcutter||
COOK COOK COOK
Honestly I was going to be pissed if the final boss was just another Elfilis varient but unfortunately Genwel Meteonelfilis is a genuinely cool character and a nice way to add more to the New World's lore
...And then the same thing literally happened again with Lord of Chaos lmao
Insert Magolor is covering his ears with a pillow somewhere
That'd be the secret follow up pic with everyone else outside the window
Genuinely seeing the boss subtitle change was surreal they cooked so hard
Neichel and Starman are my new fav Kirby characters thanks to these new games lol
Starman's old.
I just watched a YT video going over FL tidbits and their going over Niechel lore got me Niechel fanboying again

How did Elfilis get Genwelās spear though
LE GASP!!!
Did he swoop in and grab it when no one was looking
Oops wrong ping
I like the idea that every Kirby character is fruit scented
Starman and Starries are the bestest buddies
Looking at the translated version of the spear figure it says they "crossed through space" to grab it
I'm guessing they just grabbed it from Fallen Star's arena after getting kicked out of Forgo Dreams lol
That means that they were probably watching the whole fight
āGenwel, heās beating your assā
i think this figure kinda answer your question 
It was left behind after the battle (you can see it on the side of the battlefield in the ending cutscene)
Star-Crossed World representation in Air Riders:
⢠Starry as a racer
⢠Genwel as an Easter egg/referenced
⢠Neichel as an unlockable racer AND singer in one of the songs
Would be peak
Galactal as a racer too
Please š
The fact that Antares is made from living beings that were absorbed is kinda messed up and I love it lol
I do like the starries
Starry as a food item
Look on the bright side you can get your own Starry form too
It turns into a Crystal and I canāt move for eternity
Fuck
tbf another dimension-related stuff has that by default
+they probably wanted to make GK parallels more clear
Tbh time travel has literally never been relevant outside of GK
It gets lampshaded with Lor a lot but it's also not actually relevant to Lor
It's literally never relevant besides GK and Elfilis getting addicted to Neichel pop
ah right Elfilis thing too
Iām addicted to Neichel pop too, just like how Malamar is My Friend!
"the lor can time travel. also AD crosses space-time"
"that's cool"
"but this fact is never important"
"what"
Kuma: So AD transcends space and time
Kuma: And the butterfly came through AD
Kuma: And Lor goes through AD as you remember
Kuma: And starries go through AD
Fans: Are you implying these guys have traveled through time and it's relevant to something
Kuma: no
Kuma: just saying yk
exactly lol
tbh maybe the funny neichel singing crossing time may be due to AD
but what do we know (we don't know)
they'll make time-themed game eventually, trust
AD feels like just "don't think about it too hard. This world has lots of weird stuff going on. Anything is possible"
kumazaki when asked about hero doors in HiAD and multiple magolors in epilogue:
tricky kumazaki
PoV: Door that turns you into a catboy
damn I want that door
holy shit magolor
Neichel on her way to attract the 86th malevolent otherworldly being to the New World because of her singing
or the door that turns you into rat 
This is what Iāve been wanting for so long!
A Kirby time traveling game would be so peak!!!
dreamy gear
time traveling kirby game (it's just kirby clash again
)
If a time-traveling game gets made I demand there be a dinosaur world or else
I'd want it to be time-themed in general, not necessarily just time-traveling stuff lol
YES
bad
I actually miss Dreamy Gear so much you have no idea lol

WOOHOO!
Plot twist, we get a time travel game, but it's just us jumping back in Kirby game history and playing random levels from old games
dreamy gear being stuck to merch/adaptations is criminal
Kirby Generations
maybe partially about a world nearly frozen in time, with icy motifs everywhere
sure you could do a bit with that
then postgame can be time-travel shenanigans (excuse for going through the stages again lol)
When MeteonElfilis goes into phase 2 they absorb all the crystal energy and their spear into themselves. And Elfilis has several showings of being able to absorb the energy and especially scan things around the world in order to use itself in some way. Like how some of Chaos Elfilis' moves seem similar to Morpho Knight's. And how it could make phantom copies of the Beast Pack and even someone like Meta Knight who it didn't have any control over, but again could recognize him enough to make said copy. So if Elfilis could do all that, then it likely could have "scanned" and gotten some power off of MeteonElfilis, up to and including its spear. Whether it's literally the exact spear or possibly just an exact psychic copy. (In any interpretation they always summon their spears out of the ether so that could go either way)
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The spear is literally visible on the ground after the Genwell fight
We get a time travel game but it's a spinoff where Magolor does random shit in the bg of past mainlines
This will explain why his portrait is in Triple Deluxe
game of the year
can we get to travel to random subgames too
Finally, my stupid Magolor in DL1 edit will be real
Magolor and Neichel on various interdimensional time adventures š„āļø
Yirgg I know what you are you've just been leaking content from the future Kirby game smh
Man don't blow my cover like that!
So YOU'RE the rumored HAL spy!!!!!!
oh right the movie that made humpty dumpty a villain
Magolor and Humpty Dumpty are business partners 100%
Susie had enough of them and strayed away from their business tactics, focusing more on her Haltmann Works Co.
(AU Headcanon)
Susie refers to them as āthe eggheadsā
Both of them get offended at the term
susie would get tired of magolor outside of headcanon
I always saw them having a love-hate relationship with one another
There is nothing more that Magolor loves more than The Lor/Neichelmoney 
the lor, money and theme parks
So if Neichel is a canon Kirby character can Ohmoto be one tooā¦? š
Since, you know, the concert
Another human character
Ohmoto meets Kirby next game (real)
They both do the same exact Kirby voice
Dedede: āMORE KIRBYS!?!?!?ā
faints
Susie and sectonia walk in
āWhy does this woman have the same voice as us???ā
āAre we crazy???ā
Susie documents the data
Sectonia believes sheās still been affected from the mirror
The two girlbosses of the franchise are Neichel and Susie
Freezing Wind and Some Snowman Song
Listen to all Kirby Star-Crossed World Forgotten Land DLC Songs! #kirby #kirbystarcrossedworld #kirbyandtheforgottenland #ost #music #nintendoswitch2
āŗ Full Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLltD0VqVxLyOdNmi2Ge9cJpoCMT7JqjUh
āŗ...
istg, this music is like the EMBODIMENT of christmas joy and cheer
I love how the Starry Stage remixes go from sounding surrealistic to cheerfully joyous like this one
I will say this again, The Wondaria Dream Parade remix is SO GOOD
and then we get shredding rock and chill jazz š
i wonder which level youre talking about! /J
Also Ando be like: I accidentally made final stage music on my attempt on the first stage
Kuma: You cooked hard
IS THAT ACTUALLY WHAT HAPPENED??
š
or am i being gaslit again
yeah š
True story yeah
the original theme was put into the second half of Crystal Beast volcano
Kuma was like ādw my guy we arenāt wasting your first attempt, by reusing it for the last stageā
Genuinely Crystal Beast Pack Volcano Battle is probably my favorite track in this game now
I played the stage at my friendās house and the whole sequence was amazing
i dunno why I'm putting off the final boss lol
Especially the end of the stage where you can see Lab Discovera
Genuinely beautiful
Itās so pretty
it's a great send off to the new mouthful modes
I know it was only the second half, but I'm playing the Crystal Beast theme over a video of Meteor's Shower Arrival, and it's such a peak experience š
unfortunately I let the hype get to unmet expectations
that I end up liking the first stage more for the last world
lol
Also find it funny how Galactal is sort of an honorary Beast Pack member here
It really thinks itās on the team
Throwback to when they said Beast Pack in the trailer and the enemy on screen was Cappy š
Perhaps we are to assume Galactal has taken charge of this group of beast pack members, in a last ditch effort to stop you
Just ambush Kirby man
It canāt be that hard to coordinate with fellow Galactals
galactals don't care about collatoral damage
Obviously
What if there's only one, and instead of killing it, we just temporarily defeat it and it tries again

Rival Galactal
Also Kirby is there
I thought he only said that first sentence which felt raw on its own lol
I mean hey at least he said there's something to look forward to in the future haha (cope)
š only kuma can deliver such a long ass paragraph without answering anything
so someone attempted to seeing whole(?) patterns of ZEX elfilis fight besides wmex... 
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I have a recording of me fighting Elfilis for 1 hour and I thought that was normal š š
Some of these patterns are like, just WAAAAY too beyond what you will see
It feels fake sometimes, even
Itās like with Mistilteinn and their attack how you barely see past 3-4 min into the phase
TA Magolor Soul with double blackhole phase 2ā¦
I mean good on them for making stocking amount but
I wonder if one of the team member just went āletās make these final bosses last 50 yearsā (because Mefilis has very long one as well)
genwel has "that" many patterns? 
Itās moreso, the HP situation š Itās annoying to try and get them down to a decent HP to see some attacks
Iām just hoping for the SCW guide to become real
If not, at least art book for FL+SCW
But only after RTDLDX because Iām bias 
do the crystal minibosses have new attacks or are they just downgraded versions of the forgo dreams minibosses
if the former is true why doesnt the wiki document them
Because it can take some time to fully update wiki pages, and still figuring stuff out
wikirby does have coverage of the attacks
there are no new ones, just variations, though I don't know if they are like the previous harder versions of them
They designed the final boss movesets in the case that little timmy perfectly masters dodging all the attacks but is too afraid to attack on any of them except that one move they're really confident about 
Challenge run where after deadly sun you're only allowed to damage chaos elfilis core by reflecting the para matter bits 
I would genuinely do this
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Maybe next time when I stream
Also need to figure out which ability lets me reflect the para matter the most
My guess would be like tornado simply from how fast it can move
iirc the ranger needs a level 1 charge or two uncharged to defeat the bits
But maybe that's without +ā and attack boost idr
Ultimately it also depends on how easy I can defeat the other boss in general
I donāt feel like dying
Society if amiibo gave you abilities
So real
Actually morpho knight with beeg blade and moonshots would probably be the fastest way to defeat bits
Hmmmm honestly you might be right
Just requires full or + health š
And not accidentally hit Elfilis
Unless the moonshots don't go under the core and you fail the challenge from hitting it
Moment
LOOOOL
I could test it later
Along with testing the late beast pattern
Galactal I hate you
I love how MK and Dedede feels easier
Galactal when dude does nothing the whole match except 'teleport' very slowly
I hate the contact damage </3
Galactals are kinda annoying in UCZEX
They don't even have variation they're just tacked in between the mid bosses
Why do mfs have so much health
Galactal showing up makes me go :D to :| real quick
They do absolutely god nothing why do they need that much health
So much health that doesnāt even show up
The only "difference" between both fights is that they spawn different goons
Ice Sphere Doomer should've gotten that much health that mf has more attacks than a boss
Galactal does fuck all
The big fucking scary gorilla that is 20x my height?
Yeah I can just step on his toes no problem
I canāt wait to find out the accurate HP for every boss and see Galactal has double the health as most of them /j /j /j
they also deal great damage
Oh this ballerina girl that's only 2x my height?
Nope don't touch her she hurts somehow
I TOUCHED THEIR HAND AND LOST 1/3 OF MT HEALTH I HATE YOU GALACTAL
The only good thing about galactal is that they don't have a defense multiplier when they're spawning or on phase transitions like actual mid-bosses do
To spite tornado & needle for fun
The mid-bosses just have this quirk as if they're some sorta "buffer" or something to make the next genuine boss intimidating
Really? Because I have to time my Toy Hammer Star+ charge correctly when it spawns. If I release charge too early, it doesn't destroy its first layer of armor. So I assume they do have a defense multiplier when they spawn
Note to self:
Dragon Brother? Safe
Literally the spawn of Dragon brother? Ouchie
idk I don't have the game 
...What
Man, Galactals got done so dirty
Speaking of HP
I wonder how much less HP Genwel has in ZEX
Dude feels like he got a crazy health cut
Was about to say what was the hp cut in the UCZ for the bosses there, but they have the same amount as their main (forgo dreams) mode counterparts don't they?
wmex, did you like the Galactals
Genuinely those guys are tanked
Love em
The teleports are a bit of a time waster & their attacks aren't too special outside of the meteor maybe, bit they're ok
Maybe a bit too tanky for certain abilites / no ability since they barely spawn in a lot of stars
Tanky, huh
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awesome
wojak points
WOO HAL ROOM
:ICANT:
any ishikawa songs /genq
The video is more than two hours, so probably.
woah
It's like 96.9% of SCW/ZEX
i actually think that's like
HAL room Starry ver is the best HAL room music 
one of the few scw original tracks that's not in there
NOOOOO
Putting aside Mangosteen's cover
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That is pretty damn good too lol
oh wow they really weren't lying about the whole game being leaked lol
this message is from 4 days before the game came out
Meteonelfilis
i really like the contrast between their splash screen poses and how fecto is a lot more majestic while genwel is PISSED
Genwelās hate for Kirby is so funny
I mean he did kill his little bro
The reactions to it are hilarious
Kirbwah
Apparently he didn't care that much for Elfilis, I think he was pissed purely on principal
"bro how could you die to a pipsqueak like that, you make me so fucking mad rn" type beat
"my sibling SUCKED ASS at destoying this planet i'm gonna SHOW THEM HOW IT'S D-"
kirby, jolly as ever:
Thereās no way Meteonelfilis is gonna have a change if heart, the second they get out of that crystal again heās making a beeline for Kirbyās assš
Implying that heāll escape again
Maybe theyāll let him out if he behaves well enough lol
Lol
"no no no, more, no, what are you doing, no why, oh that's bullshit"
- his reaction when last song ended
Imagine if Meteonelfilis finished Absorbing the starries Mid-Elfilis fight
(This will be a Ultra Kirby Clash boss fight trust the process)
you know
i'm starting to get a little suspicious about how all these final bosses just kinda... leave
galacta knight obviously keeps getting re-sealed over and over
true arena magolor soul left into some random dimensional rift
and meteonelfilis is just sealed again rather than destroyed or whatever
can't wait for the evil villain team-up in 3 years
which will obviously also feature dark rider or whoever the kirby air riders guy is
i mean lowkey itd be kind of sick if this is how they could justify some kind of villain team up in the future
especially would be funny if magolor was in the plot. magolor fights his corrupted self from alternate timeline
that sounds like something magolor would do
are there any other villains that just kinda left in the same way
like yin-yarn was yeeted into space i guess
dark meta knight got friend hearted in star allies but he's still like a douchebag normally probably
Literally
Kirby clash plotline
Magolor comes back to make more money only to see magolor soul from another dimension going batshit
Im the most suspicious about true arena mags soul and aeon hero dark
With mefilis, you could say that hes just floating around like galacta knight does when hes sealed
But the other 2 were active choices
What they mean idk
But im excited to know
Not if Morpho has anything to say about it
You mean, heāll be back
Yep
Morpho will show up and erase him for real
sinister six
just SCW story stuff (nothing after, no one posted ZEX stuff) but yeah lol
TA Magolor Soul will return, trust
God Chaos Elfilis 1 in ZEX with the crystallization is so sexy with how much damage it does
ONE AND ONLY KUMA https://www.hallab.co.jp/blog/detail/5957/
KUMA DRAWING
!?
KUMA STARRY????????????????
of course kuma mentions hard stuff
he should've mentioned tilt and roll's new track instead
NAZO NO UTA
LOL
unfinished track again
kuma is mentioning similar stuff as the interview
about the diva...
and about how the meteor was attracted by the song
YOOOO
NEW WORLD
LANGUAGE
DIES
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see him mentioning that he wrote stuff, as usual


bit of these were in Welcome to the New World too, but still nice
HAROAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA š
I will continue dying every time roa is mentioned
I guess NW language @ripe bane
of new ones, there's at least
ćć”ć«ć = é„ć
ć«ć¼ć“ć§ć« = ęµę
if I'm reading right
also another instance of ć㢠as 空 lol
bro really cant do this to us like this
BAHNCASHMJBACMHJYCACGKYUAWEDKJVYTCMGHTAWDCYB
kuma you cant do this to us, you're gonna kill us
I JUST SAW IT OMGS
i havent been reading here much i feel like im missing things š¢
I think I just threw up
I love the starry drawing
ancient, decaying vehicle in the climax
Clearly Kuma's talking about the Big Rig and nothing else
among us!
Oh another tally for the language being called the ē°äøēčØčŖ
Funny isekai language
Oh
He's confirmed it here that meteonelfilis was also drawn by song
So he was indeed talking about Lagrange-Theia and not Roche Limit when he was talking about the building chorus in the ND interview
Oh actually he mentions the singing voice here too
oh lmao so it is just a complete paradox
well I guess that was more the Elfilis part
moreso Neichel directly caused them both to come lmaooo
self-fulfilling prophecy
Self-fulfilling prophecies are fun
Though if you consider that the prophecy is not just a forewarning but also destiny/fate then maybe her song just 'decided' what the next meteor would be
true
And like the fact that there would be a disastrous meteor shower was destined whether or not genwel heard the song and ended up being the meteor or not
wait so I wasnt tripping when I said about mefilis??
since was talking about stuff in the past too I guess
Yea they localized it out right
I love forgetting whether things are only in JP or made it into English
yeah lol
Oh hell nah we have time paradoxes in Kirby now
Bro he did NOT just Hyness pause description us in a HAL blog post
kuma is hyness
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bro today is wild day for me, kuma blog drop and tilt and roll kirby cafe jumpscare
istg the meteor's gonna fall tomorrow and half the world will sunk
Not if I intervene
kuma turns into magolor and stops the meteor from falling
need to make a hit song to summon the meteor first
simply summon neichel
easier solution, simply become Neichel
So, haruka was "faruna" and not "faruwa"? Then what exactly is "faruwa"?
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Tirakuru faruna ruuveruno, faro noano riore haroa!
What the fuck
Why is ć«ć¼ć“ć§ć«ć meteor
think it's just ć«ć¼ć“ć§ć« but yeah idk
I wonder if it has something to do with the word for meadow ("nooveruro" iirc).
can't wait for it to be randomly referenced like 3 games from now
ok but like
What the fuck does faluwa mean then š
Wikirby thought faluwa was the first word of Twinkling Star Showers but according to this that was faruna
And yea listening to the song it does sound way more like she's singing faruna
who knows, maybe it's that but corrupted?? either that or some other word in the song
time to fix wikirby /j
inb4 kumazaki accidentally referencing development stuff we weren't supposed to see
awwwwww fellers spotted
I wonder what Kumazaki meant when he said that the big rig truck was also made to guide the new world inhabitants to space.
By the way, is that 夢ć®č·” a Last Song reference?
I assume you're just actually completely lost and not going along with my joke š
He's talking about Spaceship New World
夢ć®č·” is 'the vestiges of a dream', he's saying Wondaria's design makes it look like the vestiges of a dream
PEAK
So yes tl;dr last song is indeed referencing Wondaria with that line
a bit confusing but i guess it makes sense?
me when series now has two distinct theme parks so when you vaguely mention a theme park you have to think about which one is being referenced
Well there's still the part where it says 'land of falsehoods'
Which seemingly has no real association with Wondaria while is blatantly a word married to Magolor
Marry Magoland
neichel is kinda slandering magoland for no reason...
i just interpreted it as how its supposed to be "welcoming" with its presentation but the emptiness betrays that
like its about the irony of a place thats supposed to be filled with people, not being that
There's a bunch of ways you can make things work
But the matter is that there is no blatant association between Wondaria and the term falsehoods like there is with magoland and its manager being kirby series' avatar of lying
Like you could say 'oh wondaria is the land of falsehoods because it wasn't just there to be a fun amusement park about funny children's story but was used as a propaganda tool'
Same with how I pointed out tickets evoke magoland where Stamp Tickets were a major mechanic of magoland
Like yea wondaria is a theme park so obviously it also has tickets but that's never a focus unlike with magoland where its one of the key traits of it
i mean there are ticket booths everywhere in wondaria
so idk about it not being dwelled upon
its like anywhere you go they have that ticket booth model somewhere on the stage so like
My point is like
If Kuma dropped a line about 'that evil parasite'
There are characters who are literally thematically highlighted as parasites, like Mistilteinn, Genwel, and Sectonia
And like yea you could very solidly argue a bunch of other things in Kirby could be fittingly called parasites
But the point is those are the ones that actually have that trait directly highlighted and associated with them
it doesn't come across to me as anything more than just general theming
I read "climax" and I thought he meant the one from the base game.
whos the parasite
Bandana Waddle Deeās bandana
"Next piece of the story now, please tell me."
The Meteor she's asking:
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SCW has some of the most satisfying end tbh, as in like, wrapped up very nicely overall
Itās not that FL ended bad or anything, but the ending felt like things were missing. But SCW answered a lot of the question that I had in FL and so it feels very satisfying and wrapped up nicely
such as?

Iām just very glad Kuma didnāt go āyeah btw Elfilis has 3 more siblingsā
you can't say neichel
Like Wondaria, going to space, better view of Elfilis like why they showed up, what happened to the inhabitants, more about the inhabitants including Neichel, etc
It may be my bias but itās one of my favorite story from Kirby by far
my true bias stays in RTDL/DX and Magolor Epilogue being my favorite
I love the theme, a lot
(Like theme of the game)
(Not as theme as just music)
Iām glad we got to at least know Neichel was happy with making the unfinished track, even tho itās interview lore LOL
I think the neichelor theory is neat
So, what did you all think of Mefilis
I think itās funny how theyāre extremely petty
Honestly heās probably my favorite antagonist now next to Elfilis
Really?
Mhm
Love me some screwed alien world conquerors
He stole my heart when he used that huge ass building as a weapon
Lol
Not only does he have probably the most insane boss design in the series (well he did kinda one-up elfilis in that regard but anyways) but also his fight is sick.
I want a glow in the dark plush version
Or maybe at least one that would glow really good under a black light
Cute idea but I doubt Hal will give the greenlight to make a final boss plushie
Yes, imagination š
If I were better at sewing...
I hope we get one.
Also, we need a life size Zero plushie.
Genuinely this fight has some breathtaking visuals for like
A series with already amazing visuals
If this fight is an indicator of switch 2 Kirby games to come then 
Also love how his eyes just go blank when his second phase is defeated š
Oof
Its definitely a great indicator
I wonder if the next kirby game while be next year
so is neichel being the lor just now the most popular takeaway
cause i feel like thats kind of a bleh conclusion
don't say that out loud, now you're going to get the defenders
my b
i just feel like its doing the thing again where everything has to be literally connected to everything else
cant just be subtext
WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT LOR NEICHEL?!

I like the theory but itās only a theory
I just think itās funny
I don't mind it because it's funny, but I honestly see the song as being references for the sake of references
Honestly
I really donāt mind the Lor Neichel Theory, but it helps me Like the Lor Even More
the devious Kumazaki and his Kirby lore
I've also seen some people say "Lor is literally Neichel" and others say "Lor has AI based on Neichel", and of the two I think the second one is at least more reasonable
But also not everything has to mean something
But how does Neichel become the Lor?
still don't know why everyone suddenly came to the conclusion that they have any more relation than "neichel DIDN'T take (the spaceship that would inspire) the lor starcutter"
Thatās the part of the theory that doesnāt make any sense
this is truly the kirby = void of forgotten land
The reason why the Lor actually beeps in the song is because Magolor passed through the New World while the last meteors were striking the continent she was on and did nothing to help because he sucks and I donāt like him (heartwarming)
Letās just say Kirby theories are something
are there any good kirby theories
like, in general
and like actual theories with multiple pieces of compelling evidence and not just headcanons with 0-1
Bandana Waddle Dee is The 64 Waddle Dee
Thatās a good one
It should be true smh
i agree that that one is good even though i don't believe it myself
because i am mature enough to understand the quality of someone's personal idea while also having my own unique opinions on the matter
Galacta Knight being one of the 4 heroes who sealed Void and the Starries sealing him are technically still theories. Also, the new world inhabitants being part of the ancients and also them being the scientists Hyness mentions.
i think there's a line between theories and things that are very obviously implied
ok what do you want then
can't have a theory with no evidence, can't have a theory with compelling evidence
tbh Neichel = Lor is at least imo not coming from nothing
at least it feels way more reasonable of a theory than like
Kirby is Void lol
I am part of those who thinks the song isn't doing random references for the sake of it
I do think however that saying Neichel = Lor is a bit presomptuous
and we don't have enough evidence to support that
but I do think they are linked
the way it's linked however? who knows
I honestly think the Lor sound effects in the song are meant to reference the fact that new world ships looked like it and the mechanical heart line was meant to mean that machines can't really fulfill people's wishes, a recurrent theme in Kirby.
Neichel theory be like
Neichel: I just had a random dream of this egg achieving his dream, so Imma make this part of the song because it sounds joyous
Neichel: Magolor is my son
Neichel: I⦠am Lor Starcutter
it can be possible that the Lor sound at the end is actually that the New World spaceship does the same sound
and as much as I don't rule that out
...it still links everything to Lor
lol
#1357065850951041247 message taking this message out of context
Kirby is Void lol
I mean, there are many things that could be inferrred from a connection to Lor here.
whether the link is direct or indirect
there's a connection to Lor 100% to me
I am straight up convinced there's something
I also think so.
I just think we can't figure it out yet
But it doesn't make sense to me that Neichel would become the Lor after being implied to be happy about her decision to stay in the new world.
Why does everything have to be related to RTDL?!
well
Kumazaki moment.




