#Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)

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jagged wind
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id be angry too if i got possessed like 37 times

shut pendant
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Buy from anywhere in Japan with ZenMarket, and get some free ZenPoints with my special link: go.zenmarket.jp/pjiggles

New Kirby content means new Kirby facts, including one of the coolest things I've ever covered on my channel: The hidden character that's actually, literally real, Neichel.

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Links and stuff:

Patreon ⯈...

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he asked about facts about this game on twitter and i gave him like 3 replies about neichel so there's a good chance i show up in this video (don't spoil it if i do though, i'll watch it in like 10 minutes or so)

green crater
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Kirby in the hat is so cute

shut pendant
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imagine if mike was an ability in forgotten land and the final evolution was based on neichel

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WHAT IF AIR RIDERS HAS A NEICHEL COSTUME FOR MIKE

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it would be too peak

languid cobalt
vagrant hound
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Magolor Neichel….

languid cobalt
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gooey neichel

shut pendant
sand patrol
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"why make a switch version for forgotten land"

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cause HAL wanted to

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there ive used five of my active braincells

vagrant hound
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Why make a Switch 2 ver?
Simply because Switch 2 was brought up and FL would be perfect game to utilize the power and make them look more fascinating
HAL already wanted to utilize the world of FL and play around with them more so it worked out perfectly and they got onto the work very fast lololunch

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(From Interview)

slate slate
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I hope the first 2D Kirby on the switch 2 is peak

sand patrol
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so in short

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they wanted to

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i feel like people are sometimes way too "company make money" brained

gleaming stream
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I mean, sometimes that’s the case

sand patrol
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sure

random shoal
lean grove
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i did feel like it did involve having a quick turnaround due to the shorter development time

lean grove
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having mouthful modes pre-existing also means they have a design to easily add onto compared to new abilities or any new gimmicks that would carry over to the rest of the game

high widget
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keep Kirby's mouthful mode abilities past this game... begging

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Its really funny that like

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Mario's diagetic in-universe singer has like two games centered around her and its fun and then Kirby's diagetic in-universe singer is like Dead

tardy mortar
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so wait

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they actually wanted to do more with that universe

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...interesting

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Well usually they just do one story and then move on to the next

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they actually wanted to do more for this one somehow

sudden mirage
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just wait for the switch 3 edition

languid cobalt
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Hear me out

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Neichel will be the side story final boss of the next kirby game

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She will be the morpho knight of the next kirby

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See you guys in 1 year to see if i was right

mellow lantern
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I'd be down

arctic gale
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I cant see a singer wanting to throw hands for some reason lmao

jagged wind
languid cobalt
green crater
languid cobalt
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Maybe use the idea of her getting corrupted by elfilis

subtle peak
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Tried to remake genwel in gmod how well did i do

languid cobalt
subtle peak
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Beat uczex with base kirby w/o buffa

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had to go as far as using amiboo but who cares WWW

languid cobalt
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You know what

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Fuck it

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Im going to try beating the uczex abilityless after gartic phone

twin fog
fading tartan
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I JUST REMEMBERED, I WAS RIGHT! WOHOOO

fading tartan
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man, i kinda hope sammy does an unofficial cover of last song (unfinished) as neichel someday...

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maybe for 35th music fest šŸ‘€ /J

pliant quarry
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Star Crossed World has been out for an entire month! This edit would have come out like an entire 3 weeks ago, but I felt it was too early to release it, but here we are now! This edit is a sequel to the "Super Ultra Hyper Deluxe Finale Frenzy" edit I did last year with all the button mash sequences at the end of the Kirby games! But this time, ...

ā–¶ Play video
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This edit is sooo good

vagrant hound
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😭

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There goes the star

gleaming stream
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Galactal Nova

green crater
crimson hill
lean grove
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that would get to the heart of the matter Kapar

sterile quartz
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wasn't ABV enough?

green crater
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If there's a SA S2 version, I kinda genuinely hope it's just like FPS type stuff and not another mode

lean grove
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they're going to save it for the 35th anniversary and add Galacta Knight/Elfilin/next mainline main character as an extra wave

warm nymph
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I know I don't talk in this server much, if at all, but this has been bothering me the past couple of days, so I was hoping somebody here could help give me some answers. I tried asking a few times in the WiKirby server to no response, so...yeah. Anyway...

The avalanche of "And here we are!" voice clips for the attack of the same name in The Ultimate Cup Z EX is super hard to make out in the heat of a chaotic boss fight (at least until we can directly extract Switch 2 game data and the appropriate BFSAR in question, anyway). From what little gameplay videos I've watched, I can at least 100% confirm that it always begins with the English, Japanese, Canadian French and Latin American Spanish voices, plus a bit of Italian near the middle, and ends with the Korean, English, Japanese and Canadian French "And here we are!" voices, and then "Welcome, visitors" in both English and Japanese. It's mostly the European French, German, European Spanish and Dutch voice recordings that I'm having trouble deciphering, assuming they're even there at all to begin with...

The reason I'm asking this is not just because I genuinely want to know (y'know, sound design geek and all), but also because I have plans to do something similar in an upcoming film project of mine, so that way I can make it as clear-cut of a pop-culture reference as I can get with the limited sound files I have access to.

twin fog
# vagrant hound

Undocumented attack I played like 3 seconds and its galactals its gonna be the one where they travel together in a hexagon isn't it

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Yea ok there it is lol

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And lol the funny invisible wall glitch again

vagrant hound
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This user was screaming they were the first person to find the attack and I’m like okay okay let me post it on the server first

twin fog
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Or do a bird's eye view of the whole room after the dreamygar or something

vagrant hound
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This is exactly how I receive tons of damage because I couldn’t figure out where I was in the room

twin fog
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It is incredibly late into his patterns

vagrant hound
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Yeah, most people will destroy Mefilis before they get to this part of the late pattern lol

twin fog
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Doesn't help that there are attacks Genwel only does after a certain amount of health (The building variations obviously) and idk if this might be one of them

green crater
lofty gyro
sterile quartz
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Did they change the requirement for announcer Dee’s figure in SCW

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IK in base it’s for beating cup 3, does the switch 2 version keep it like that or is it locked behind cup 4 instead?

twin fog
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Yes its still gotten for beating UCZ

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Same for the theatre dee, nothing's unlock is changed to require SCW stuff

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B/c that wouldn't make any sense with carrying your save file over

sterile quartz
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Ah ok

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Odd

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Probably easier to code it that way then some conditional ā€œif they have it they keep it if not change requirement upon upgradeā€

twin fog
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Even ignoring whether it would be easier or not why would you do it

sterile quartz
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Technicality

torn vapor
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Guys is this a far fetched theory

hybrid bolt
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definitely

shut pendant
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can't fly too close to the sun if you're using an infinite height glitch instead of flying

shut pendant
tardy mortar
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game going awoof

vagrant hound
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Garuru

tepid burrow
jolly lichen
craggy dove
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So what’s the policy on spoilers at this point

gleaming stream
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Well, the embargo has been lifted so everything is fair game

tacit saffron
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yeah you can say Lord of Chaos now

craggy dove
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Aha. Ok so I was wondering, was anyone else seriously expecting Galacta Knight to show up?

gleaming stream
craggy dove
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I mean aside from the fact that someone around here planted the idea in my head by predicting that Galacta Knight would be in the game, and pointing out that the starries all have what looks like the shape from Galacta Knight’s armor on their faces

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The fact that there are those enemies called ā€œGALACTalsā€

vagrant hound
craggy dove
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I guess it was all just a coincidence

jolly lichen
craggy dove
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I guess in a way he was. Because he became Morpho Knight, hahaha…

vagrant hound
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I coped for Magolor and Lor

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And well

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It sure was unexpecting way

craggy dove
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You’ll get to see Magolor again when Air Riders comes out

tacit saffron
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tbf before this we already saw signs of increased advancements

vagrant hound
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I mean, Magolor did appeared
In a way

tacit saffron
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all of Lab Discovera

vagrant hound
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And Lor? Ahaha~

tacit saffron
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plus Redgar as an extension

gleaming stream
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I like the neichelor theory

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It’s peam

tacit saffron
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eternal capsule

craggy dove
vagrant hound
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Fa-lu-wa-a

vagrant hound
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Leon….

toxic delta
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also funny Epilogue music for ZEX Leon yeah

vagrant hound
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ONWARD I LOVE YOU

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My second or third or whatever favorite Kirby song

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🄰

vagrant hound
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Past adventure showed RTDLDX

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With Magolor in the icon

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Playing merry magoland

craggy dove
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OH the advertisements

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lol

vagrant hound
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Lowkey was surprising choice LOL I thought they’d do Magolor Epilogue music but I guess magoland works better in senses

tacit saffron
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ZEX reusing music all of a sudden is the funny

mellow lantern
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toid vermina korpho mnight

vagrant hound
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ZEX Leon reusing Magolor Epilogue literally made me vomit

tacit saffron
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for the last few no less

mellow lantern
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upset that it wasn't the void version of the song tho

tacit saffron
craggy dove
toxic delta
craggy dove
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But the music is so epic I guess I didn’t care

vagrant hound
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Magolor Epilogue yoinking Scattered souls so Leon yoinked Judgement and Onward Kapar

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Void = Morpho theory raises suddenly

tacit saffron
craggy dove
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I got nostalgic when they played the revenge of meta knight music during meta knight fight

vagrant hound
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Star conquering traveler (Morpho knight version)

toxic delta
tacit saffron
mellow lantern
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I await the next update to forgotten land where you fight morpho knight EX and it plays the void version

vagrant hound
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Steel wing made me scream

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Great choice

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Dream Buffet šŸ”„ šŸ”„ šŸ”„ šŸ”„

craggy dove
tacit saffron
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anyway space ship

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I didn't notice the others at first lol

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only the one that was specifically shown in the backstory

vagrant hound
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I wanted to kiss spaceship

craggy dove
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Morpho and Void Termina have something to do with each other?

tacit saffron
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I also wonder what's further underground

mellow lantern
tacit saffron
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since it matches with redgar man made

vagrant hound
mellow lantern
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wonder if NEW WORLD's underground is as bizarre as popstar's

tacit saffron
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no wonder you got ants as friends

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could ants live down there?

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also wonder where the broken elevator originally leads to

gleaming stream
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Okay

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Why weren’t Galactals just minibosses

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Instead, there’s this weird half and half where they show up as normal enemies sometimes

tacit saffron
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experimenting

toxic delta
# craggy dove What connections?

besides the obvious thing of appearing in Star Allies (and being final bosses of modes), eye stuff (specifically on sword for Morpho; worth noting concept art had sword be more Master Crown-esque too), both have Helper brainwashing moves (the only ones in SA to, even), Divine Terminus stuff, another dimension stuff, Morpho Knight EX and Soul Melter EX Void Termina have similar colors (Corrupt Hyness as well), fiery stuff, associations with afterlife places and death/destruction, etc.

tacit saffron
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also might lead to confusion

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thinking you will get an ability from it

toxic delta
tacit saffron
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you can't inhale them

gleaming stream
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Okay, I don’t see the problem with that

toxic delta
craggy dove
gleaming stream
toxic delta
craggy dove
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I never noticed the eye on Morpho Knight’s Sword. That’s a neat tidbit!

gleaming stream
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I think Galactals got done dirty due to the enemy format

toxic delta
gleaming stream
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If they really didn’t want to make them minibosses, at least make their attack patterns less complex

tacit saffron
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you'd find in optional rooms

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including the Doomers in every AD section

toxic delta
gleaming stream
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Or just create new minibosses that aren’t rehashes

toxic delta
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why are y'all 'enemies'

gleaming stream
toxic delta
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there's Soul Forgo being a 'boss' I guess (instead of 'other')

gleaming stream
tacit saffron
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SA SA SA

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you got the main boss

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and then this mid of the world gimmick boss

toxic delta
tacit saffron
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not to mention "gimmick" bosses don't always appear in the Arena

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you get all the space shooters

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yet grand mam is still stuck on that pebble of a planet

toxic delta
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but anyway they've been doing weird stuff like this for a while now

jolly lichen
gleaming stream
tacit saffron
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that's funny because the birds are the flight equivalent to the moles from earlier

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then the moles gain an EX member so later on

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gauntlet of facing most in Royal Road

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doesn't count as a mid-boss rush though?

toxic delta
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just remembered Kracko Jr.'s Revenge is also considered just a 'boss' (probably partially because of having True Arena round to itself) lol
and not a 'midboss'

tacit saffron
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not an enemy gauntlet level either like in Ripple Star Stage 3

mellow lantern
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do you people prefer arenas being mostly random or fixed order

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cuz it's always weird fighting kracko jr's revenge after kracko's revenge

gleaming stream
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If you can avoid it, it’s an enemy

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If it blocks your path intentionally then it’s a midboss

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That’s what the hypernova midbosses do

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And some Galactal fights do halt level progression

tacit saffron
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the doomers when they go from mid boss territory to boss status

toxic delta
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so it's a thin line sometimes

tacit saffron
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enemy ambushes

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thank you SA

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now normal enemies can also appear in the Arena too

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(we do not count that one Waddle Dee)

gleaming stream
jolly lichen
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i think galactals have no visible health bar unlike other minibosses really help emphasize that off-vibe which i kinda love...

gleaming stream
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Enemy ambushes have been a staple in the series for a while

torn vapor
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What do you think of my weird theory abt neichel possibly being a void termina incarnation

tacit saffron
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this is all Genwel's fault

torn vapor
gleaming stream
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From what I’ve seen of scw it’s pretty good but I do understand others who think it’s a bit lacking in certain areas

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At least it’s worth the price tag

gleaming stream
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Also why didn’t the Galactals just ambush Kirby? Are they stupid?

languid cobalt
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They fucking suck at it thats why

tacit saffron
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they were learning

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after letting Kirby have the option to bypass entirely

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in cahoots with the crystalized enemies

gleaming stream
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They’d probably get steamrolled since Kirby is a lot stronger now but it’s better than fighting him alone

vagrant hound
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I love how Japanese community started bombing the SCW content the second the one month silent spoiler rules ended LOL

toxic delta
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oh god it has been a month now lol

gleaming stream
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No it’s n- oh

languid cobalt
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2 weeks since i got my switch 2 holy shit SobKirby

vagrant hound
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I was scrolling through Twitter and forgot about it

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Now I can finally talk in Japanese…

gleaming stream
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That section looks nerve wracking

tacit saffron
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the typical crushing segment

tepid burrow
gleaming stream
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Starry Stages my beloved

tepid burrow
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Hi Gigi

gleaming stream
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Ah, Gigi has awoken

random tendon
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I got that one first time but that's actually funny that you just have to touch the platform to get it LOL I will add this to wikirby later

tepid burrow
tacit saffron
vagrant hound
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Bandee reflection 😭 😭 😭 😭 Also it’s so funny how both Kirby and Bandee’s reflections on the crystal floor are literally not reflecting their back but their face https://x.com/ayamal1go/status/1972089724602130710?s=46

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tacit saffron
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though I missed the starry?

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had to replay it

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FL...

gleaming stream
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Yippee, Bandee in cutscenes

gleaming stream
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It’s a trick of the eyes

vagrant hound
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You fail but you didn’t

gleaming stream
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I don’t anyone will pay that close attention to reflections while battling Mefilis

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So it’s okay for it to be a bit wonky

vagrant hound
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My brain was already fried with air riders and Hankyu collab but

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With SCW spoiler unlocked

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I’m extra toasted

ocean ingot
glad path
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Realizing that HAL can just whip out Void's theme any time they want now
We should probably be scared of this

shut pendant
gleaming stream
obtuse berry
gleaming stream
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Elfilis is flabbergasted

ocean ingot
high widget
vagrant hound
twin fog
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@obtuse berry

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Smh HAL should've asked me why I didn't make the core move twice when they copied my attack smh smh ! ! !

high widget
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genuinely u are a pioneer

ocean ingot
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Hearing the rest area music there, makes me imagine if Magolor Soul's second phase in the TA had INTERNAL STRUGGLE as the bg music

shut pendant
shrewd oracle
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hydrogen baby vs crying bomb

twin fog
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Crying Bomb is my favorite ability evolution in Kirby and the Lost Mirror

vagrant hound
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1984

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Whoops video deleted on accident

high widget
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bestie

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what were you Doing

vagrant hound
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I was testing and screwing around!

high widget
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I feel like Void Pattern is gonna be like

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the next Hexagon motif

mellow lantern
vagrant hound
shut pendant
vagrant hound
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Last time it didn’t let me get it when I tried to, this time it let me get it when I wasn’t trying to get it </3

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I was screaming ā€œGIVE ME BACK MY MORPHO SWORDā€ and than the rest area give me Morpho sword so… based????

twin fog
# vagrant hound

Oh yea for anyone wondering this was me asking yukkuri to test if Genwel's dimension laser still glitched out when catching Fire using the burn attack and the answer is no

pastel lily
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So like I just remembered
When I was doing ZEX for the first time I skipped the cutscene for lord of chaos bcuz i thought it would be the exact same boss fight SobKirby

stray relic
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I can do basically anything in this game but I swear I can't do UCZEX with cutter what am I doing wrong

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You're telling me I can win with drill first try to reach 32/33 abilities but I can't do cutter?!

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Coincidentally, one of the few things it's good against is genwel, but it's too little too late

green crater
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I'm so bad at arenas, but cutter strikes me as the kind of ability you either need to accept that the run will take three hours and play super defensive, or be hyper aggressive and hope you kill them before they kill you

sand patrol
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yea thats about right

lean grove
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I do somewhat disagree with that second song interpretation because for some reason it's more like
a lullaby that sounds more like it's trying to soothe the meteor than anything towards the people of the world

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last one is pretty spot on though

sand patrol
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well you are right

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but as i understand it it was more of written based off the meteor prophecy

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the when elfilis showed up they thought therem ight be some weight to its validity

gleaming stream
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I like that Elfilis has thorough history

vagrant hound
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I mean unfinished song was made to express Neichel’s feelings and what happened in this world in past, and what she saw of the future in her dream, sadge song
BUT she was happy to be able to sing from deepest of her heart Smug

gleaming stream
vagrant hound
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And twinkling star showers basically mentions about how Neichel had a mixed feelings while working on the music…

shut pendant
robust tundra
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I DONT WANT NEW CONTENT JUST LET ME PLAY STAR ALLEIS AT STABLE 60

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i mean i WOULD love a fixed level design but im not sure if they'd take the extra mile

green crater
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I can't see them straight up changing the main game. Add stuff to another mode, yeah that's within the realm of what they've already done in other things (RtDX and SCW). But Star Allies already has SO MANY modes. It doesn't need more

arctic gale
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Most i want is a star allies sequel in like 15 years with every new blorbo introduced since the original

wise flame
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I just would prefer a patch for Star Allies

crimson hill
wise flame
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(Also Star Allies is old)

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so old man...

robust tundra
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i still remember the release anticipation

crimson hill
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Literally slightly over one year of the switch 1 launch

wise flame
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Also I would not want it to be locked behind $10 because like, what?!

broken void
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Imagine they're holding out on star allies s2e until we get 2 more blorbos so we can get a wave 4 with elfilin, blorbo #2, and blorbo #3

ocean ingot
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Brobo........

broken void
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True

robust tundra
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put drawciaa

ocean ingot
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A wave with spinoff characters would be cool

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Prince Fluff šŸ™

robust tundra
crimson hill
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Not to mention she is surprisingly important to the history of the series

green crater
torn vapor
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What if neichel is actually rlly depressed

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Like outside of her appearances in public she's actually a really introverted person who has to deal with paparazzi and scandals

fringe mist
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You probably don't want the camera angle changes to be that sudden with an attack that fast

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so you either have to change the perspective for the entire attack, or do what they ultimately went with which was just for the player to be alert about Soul Forgo's position

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Not exactly the easiest thing to design around with the key component of Forgo Leon's claw swipe

hybrid bolt
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I want the metaknight and dedede figurine so bad. 😭

fading tartan
thorny fulcrum
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Just forwarding this here as well for hc sake

turbid nexus
high widget
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I love Crystal Beast Pack something something

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im glad they kept that track when they had to retool Meteor Shower Arrival

tardy mortar
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we needed more Super Kirby Clash main theme

high widget
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Moonlight Labirynth is so sultry and for what

vagrant hound
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Ohara accidentally sent it to SCW instead of Kirby Cafe /j

high widget
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Fujiko Mine Lupin the III apepars in the Forgotten Land and that track plays

tardy mortar
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where is Roche Limit CafƩ

vagrant hound
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Cafe 3 next year, trust

lean grove
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oops, all Northeast Frost Street remixes

high widget
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this is a good thing

gleaming stream
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Oops all Meteoric Beast Battle

high widget
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this is a good thing

warm nymph
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The multilingual "And here we are!" voice clips from The Ultimate Cup Z EX have been driving me crazy for the past couple of weeks, but I think I've got most of those audio samples figured out. Keyword: most.

"And here we are!"
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« Et nous y voilà arrivés! »
"”Por fin hemos llegado!"
[Probably Dutch, though the voice clip sounds more like "Automatische taaldetectie... geactiveerd." instead of "Daar zijn we dan!" to me...]
ā€žUnd da wƤren wir auch schon!ā€œ
"E ora vi presentiamo la forma di vita..."
[Probably the European French equivalent of « Et nous y voilà arrivés ! », but since it's so quiet, I can only make assumptions right now]
"”Ah, ya hemos llegado!"
ć€Œź·øėŸ¼ ģ†Œź°œķ•©ė‹ˆė‹¤!怍
"And here we are!"
ć€Œćć‚Œć§ćÆ ć”č¦§ćć ć•ć„ļ¼ć€
« Et nous y voilà arrivés! »
"Welcome, visitors..."
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Until the day comes when Switch 2 game data can be directly extracted, this attempted transcription may very well be the best we've got, but I'd love to be proven wrong.

gentle pier
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was the zine interview translated ir still in progress? where do i go to know?

random tendon
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but yukkuri shared the main points here already around a week ago

vagrant hound
random tendon
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oh right the spoiler thread

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I went to continue translating and my internet died 😭

vagrant hound
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It’s telling you to go to sleep

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Timezone? Screw it! Go to sleep anyways! Just like the ancients on the spaceship like twinkling star sho-

random tendon
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too bad my dad fixed it Kapar

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hold Y to make elfilin disappear forever

vagrant hound
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Hold Y to kill Elfilin šŸ”„ šŸ”„ šŸ”„ šŸ”„

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They’re so evil for not mentioning pressing Y button in staff credit plays unfinished tra-

random tendon
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kuma: "what, you are expecting a direct answer?????"

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HE SAID THE THING

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"leave room for imagination"

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😭

ocean ingot
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Oh yeah, forgor to mention, but i took a girl to a formal dance a week ago, and the song i played in my car to set the mood was Moonlight Canyon Labyrinth. She had no clue it was Kirby Silly

gleaming stream
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It’s some kind of Kirby Star Allies

random tendon
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the way this is worded is so kumazaki though

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why does it feels like kumazaki's own kumazaki japanese gets 10 times more complex when he's giving answers to things like this LOL

jagged wind
#

should have said "and here we are" when you got there

random tendon
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kuma: don't worry about it

green crater
#

Kuma is a master at just not answering a question but still saying a lot of words

vagrant hound
#

He will do anything to avoid answering the question and distracting us with different stuff

gleaming stream
#

Toby Fox

random tendon
vagrant hound
#

He’s probably like ā€œKuma yap time, I will let him yapā€

twin fog
#

We should have a Kumayap translator

twin fog
# random tendon kuma: don't worry about it

"That's too direct, I'm not answering that yet. This is an FL expansion so it expands FL's world for people who want FL expanded. It makes the game replayable for fans. You can wonder why the world is that way. Unless you don't give a shit. Then you can skippa skippa and the game still works. Also Void is Kirby and Galacta Knight is Kirby."
Wow just put this through Kuma yapping translator how cool is that

random tendon
#

peak?????

sudden oracle
#

This sticker is SO canon now (real)

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Magolor and Neichel, lovers for life šŸ’™šŸ–¤

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Genwel x Nebby also canon hehe 🤭

twin fog
#

This purposefully resembling Dark Nebula will always be something I fully believe in even though objectively I would be the type of guy that sees someone say this and call them a dipshit

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This is also totally a reference trust

sudden oracle
#

All the GK fans got trolled so hard in this game (it’s honestly satisfying /j)

green crater
#

Am I a bad person for thinking it's really funny that GK wasn't here?

sudden oracle
#

No

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Morpho Knight: ā€œI’m the new Galacta, fools!ā€

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ā€œGet used to it!ā€

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ā€œMorpho Knight EX? Who’s that guy? Forgot about him, no pun intended!ā€

twin fog
#

I can't even call it funny b/c it was obvious GK wouldn't be there Kapar

sudden oracle
#

We got the Elfilin family reunion instead

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Kirby family reunions with Star Allies and games before

hybrid bolt
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people really expected GK huh

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I didn't

random tendon
#

I expected a vague allusion to GK and we got it

sudden oracle
#

The Galactals is the closest we’ve gotten

random tendon
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I meant more the figure description for collection all starries in japanese, but also true

sudden oracle
#

Oh yes this too

hybrid bolt
#

I think I am just whatever on the character.

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oh he didn't show up, meh.

twin fog
#

When the switch 2 gets hacked we will discover that you can see GK floating around just offscreen during the Genwel fight if you tilt the camera at the right time

sudden oracle
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HAL made the last minute decision to NOT include Galacta Knight or Morpho Knight EX

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(Evil)

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/j I don’t mind

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Kumazaki: ā€œLet’s give Neichel more lore instead šŸ”„āœļøā€

gleaming stream
#

Fraud Knight

lean grove
#

i do think it was super crazy that they gave the starries time travel abilities that are literally just not relevant

sudden oracle
#

GK and MKEX were deleted to make room for the prophecy šŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļø

lean grove
#

kumazaki just playing for the sake of the long con

turbid nexus
hybrid bolt
#

I just need snippets of the metaknight and dedede lore

green crater
#

It's such a funny name

hybrid bolt
#

but that damn astrologist dee only gives me doubles...

lean grove
sudden oracle
#

I need need NEED Neichel to wear that Lor Starcutter costume next anniversary concert šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™ (that is my dream, to confirm all of our theories)

lean grove
green crater
sudden oracle
#

PEEEAK

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(Explodes)

gleaming stream
rustic crow
#

Star Crossed World Spoilers:
||Idea for Kirby fanart- Nichel singing with Elfilin, Elfilis, MeteonElfilis and the Starries on the Lor Starcutter||

turbid nexus
#

Honestly I was going to be pissed if the final boss was just another Elfilis varient but unfortunately Genwel Meteonelfilis is a genuinely cool character and a nice way to add more to the New World's lore

...And then the same thing literally happened again with Lord of Chaos lmao

gleaming stream
rustic crow
turbid nexus
sudden oracle
#

Neichel and Starman are my new fav Kirby characters thanks to these new games lol

hybrid bolt
#

Starman's old.

rustic crow
#

I just watched a YT video going over FL tidbits and their going over Niechel lore got me Niechel fanboying again

hybrid bolt
gleaming stream
#

How did Elfilis get Genwel’s spear though

sudden oracle
gleaming stream
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Did he swoop in and grab it when no one was looking

sudden oracle
#

(I know he’s old)

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(Now I like him more than ever)

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(My hi-jump ability buddy)

gleaming stream
#

I wonder what starman tastes like

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Probably a lemon

hybrid bolt
#

I think little star people are just alright in my books

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I need beeg boys

sudden oracle
#

Oops wrong ping

gleaming stream
#

I like the idea that every Kirby character is fruit scented

sudden oracle
turbid nexus
gleaming stream
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ā€œGenwel, he’s beating your assā€

jolly lichen
ocean ingot
#

It was left behind after the battle (you can see it on the side of the battlefield in the ending cutscene)

sudden oracle
#

Star-Crossed World representation in Air Riders:

• Starry as a racer
• Genwel as an Easter egg/referenced
• Neichel as an unlockable racer AND singer in one of the songs

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Would be peak

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Galactal as a racer too

#

Please šŸ™

turbid nexus
#

The fact that Antares is made from living beings that were absorbed is kinda messed up and I love it lol

hybrid bolt
#

I do like the starries

gleaming stream
#

Starry as a food item

hybrid bolt
#

they're like little alien angels

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but still cute

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DONOTBEAFRAID but cute

sudden oracle
#

DO NOT EAT THE PRECIOUSSS 😭

turbid nexus
#

Look on the bright side you can get your own Starry form too

gleaming stream
#

It turns into a Crystal and I can’t move for eternity

gleaming stream
#

Fuck

toxic delta
#

+they probably wanted to make GK parallels more clear

twin fog
#

Tbh time travel has literally never been relevant outside of GK
It gets lampshaded with Lor a lot but it's also not actually relevant to Lor
It's literally never relevant besides GK and Elfilis getting addicted to Neichel pop

toxic delta
#

ah right Elfilis thing too

sudden oracle
#

I’m addicted to Neichel pop too, just like how Malamar is My Friend!

random tendon
twin fog
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Kuma: So AD transcends space and time

Kuma: And the butterfly came through AD

Kuma: And Lor goes through AD as you remember

Kuma: And starries go through AD
Fans: Are you implying these guys have traveled through time and it's relevant to something
Kuma: no

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Kuma: just saying yk

random tendon
#

exactly lol

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tbh maybe the funny neichel singing crossing time may be due to AD

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but what do we know (we don't know)

toxic delta
#

they'll make time-themed game eventually, trust

green crater
#

AD feels like just "don't think about it too hard. This world has lots of weird stuff going on. Anything is possible"

random tendon
gleaming stream
#

tricky kumazaki

twin fog
#

PoV: Door that turns you into a catboy

toxic delta
#

damn I want that door

gleaming stream
#

holy shit magolor

turbid nexus
toxic delta
sudden oracle
#

A Kirby time traveling game would be so peak!!!

gleaming stream
#

dreamy gear

random tendon
#

time traveling kirby game (it's just kirby clash again leeperTroll )

turbid nexus
#

If a time-traveling game gets made I demand there be a dinosaur world or else

toxic delta
#

I'd want it to be time-themed in general, not necessarily just time-traveling stuff lol

turbid nexus
green crater
#

Plot twist, we get a time travel game, but it's just us jumping back in Kirby game history and playing random levels from old games

random tendon
#

dreamy gear being stuck to merch/adaptations is criminal

toxic delta
rustic crow
# gleaming stream How did Elfilis get Genwel’s spear though

When MeteonElfilis goes into phase 2 they absorb all the crystal energy and their spear into themselves. And Elfilis has several showings of being able to absorb the energy and especially scan things around the world in order to use itself in some way. Like how some of Chaos Elfilis' moves seem similar to Morpho Knight's. And how it could make phantom copies of the Beast Pack and even someone like Meta Knight who it didn't have any control over, but again could recognize him enough to make said copy. So if Elfilis could do all that, then it likely could have "scanned" and gotten some power off of MeteonElfilis, up to and including its spear. Whether it's literally the exact spear or possibly just an exact psychic copy. (In any interpretation they always summon their spears out of the ether so that could go either way)

green crater
#

The spear is literally visible on the ground after the Genwell fight

twin fog
#

We get a time travel game but it's a spinoff where Magolor does random shit in the bg of past mainlines

#

This will explain why his portrait is in Triple Deluxe

gleaming stream
#

game of the year

toxic delta
#

can we get to travel to random subgames too

green crater
#

Finally, my stupid Magolor in DL1 edit will be real

sudden oracle
twin fog
#

Yirgg I know what you are you've just been leaking content from the future Kirby game smh

green crater
#

Man don't blow my cover like that!

hybrid bolt
#

I'll love more spinoff titles that aren't about kirby

turbid nexus
hybrid bolt
#

oh right the movie that made humpty dumpty a villain

gleaming stream
#

he was the best part of that movie

#

kinda like how magolor is the best part of-

sudden oracle
#

Magolor and Humpty Dumpty are business partners 100%

#

Susie had enough of them and strayed away from their business tactics, focusing more on her Haltmann Works Co.

(AU Headcanon)

#

Susie refers to them as ā€œthe eggheadsā€

#

Both of them get offended at the term

gleaming stream
#

susie would get tired of magolor outside of headcanon

sudden oracle
#

I always saw them having a love-hate relationship with one another

hybrid bolt
#

For me, it's all hate.

sudden oracle
#

There is nothing more that Magolor loves more than The Lor/Neichelmoney magolormoney

hybrid bolt
#

the lor, money and theme parks

sudden oracle
#

So if Neichel is a canon Kirby character can Ohmoto be one too…? šŸ‘€

#

Since, you know, the concert

#

Another human character

#

Ohmoto meets Kirby next game (real)

#

They both do the same exact Kirby voice

#

Dedede: ā€œMORE KIRBYS!?!?!?ā€

faints

crimson hill
#

Susie and sectonia walk in

sudden oracle
#

ā€œWhy does this woman have the same voice as us???ā€

#

ā€œAre we crazy???ā€

#

Susie documents the data

#

Sectonia believes she’s still been affected from the mirror

#

The two girlbosses of the franchise are Neichel and Susie

fading tartan
#

istg, this music is like the EMBODIMENT of christmas joy and cheer

turbid nexus
#

I love how the Starry Stage remixes go from sounding surrealistic to cheerfully joyous like this one

sudden oracle
#

I will say this again, The Wondaria Dream Parade remix is SO GOOD

ocean ingot
#

and then we get shredding rock and chill jazz 😭

fading tartan
vagrant hound
#

Also Ando be like: I accidentally made final stage music on my attempt on the first stage

#

Kuma: You cooked hard

fading tartan
#

😭

#

or am i being gaslit again

ocean ingot
#

yeah 😭

vagrant hound
#

True story yeah

ocean ingot
#

the original theme was put into the second half of Crystal Beast volcano

vagrant hound
#

Kuma was like ā€œdw my guy we aren’t wasting your first attempt, by reusing it for the last stageā€

fading tartan
#

THATS AMAZING HEAHEHAE

#

OH NOW THAT I LISTEN I CAN KINDA HEAR IT

turbid nexus
#

Genuinely Crystal Beast Pack Volcano Battle is probably my favorite track in this game now
I played the stage at my friend’s house and the whole sequence was amazingSobKirby

hybrid bolt
#

i dunno why I'm putting off the final boss lol

turbid nexus
#

Especially the end of the stage where you can see Lab Discovera

#

Genuinely beautiful

gleaming stream
#

It’s so pretty

hybrid bolt
#

it's a great send off to the new mouthful modes

ocean ingot
#

I know it was only the second half, but I'm playing the Crystal Beast theme over a video of Meteor's Shower Arrival, and it's such a peak experience 😭

hybrid bolt
#

unfortunately I let the hype get to unmet expectations

#

that I end up liking the first stage more for the last world

#

lol

turbid nexus
#

Also find it funny how Galactal is sort of an honorary Beast Pack member here
It really thinks it’s on the team

ocean ingot
#

Throwback to when they said Beast Pack in the trailer and the enemy on screen was Cappy 😭

green crater
#

Perhaps we are to assume Galactal has taken charge of this group of beast pack members, in a last ditch effort to stop you

hybrid bolt
#

my headcanon is that the crystals can

#

brainwash them

#

like zombies

gleaming stream
#

Just ambush Kirby man

hybrid bolt
#

or they hate kirby

#

kill the puffball

gleaming stream
#

It can’t be that hard to coordinate with fellow Galactals

hybrid bolt
#

galactals don't care about collatoral damage

gleaming stream
#

Obviously

hybrid bolt
#

little did they know if meteon succeeds...

#

everyone dies

green crater
#

What if there's only one, and instead of killing it, we just temporarily defeat it and it tries again

hybrid bolt
hybrid bolt
#

starries...angels...

#

galactals...demons...

gleaming stream
#

Also Kirby is there

tardy mortar
random shoal
mossy crane
rustic crow
#

Me when I read the name Kuma out of context:

jolly lichen
#

so someone attempted to seeing whole(?) patterns of ZEX elfilis fight besides wmex... thinkinSoos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNnpsHHf9as&t=1s

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ā–¶ Play video
vagrant hound
#

I have a recording of me fighting Elfilis for 1 hour and I thought that was normal 😭 😭
Some of these patterns are like, just WAAAAY too beyond what you will see
It feels fake sometimes, even

#

It’s like with Mistilteinn and their attack how you barely see past 3-4 min into the phase

#

TA Magolor Soul with double blackhole phase 2…

#

I mean good on them for making stocking amount but

#

I wonder if one of the team member just went ā€œlet’s make these final bosses last 50 yearsā€ (because Mefilis has very long one as well)

vagrant hound
#

It’s moreso, the HP situation 😭 It’s annoying to try and get them down to a decent HP to see some attacks

#

I’m just hoping for the SCW guide to become real

#

If not, at least art book for FL+SCW

#

But only after RTDLDX because I’m bias leepertroll

sterile quartz
#

do the crystal minibosses have new attacks or are they just downgraded versions of the forgo dreams minibosses

#

if the former is true why doesnt the wiki document them

vagrant hound
#

Because it can take some time to fully update wiki pages, and still figuring stuff out

sterile quartz
#

ok that makes sense but

#

do they actually do anything different

random tendon
#

wikirby does have coverage of the attacks

#

there are no new ones, just variations, though I don't know if they are like the previous harder versions of them

twin fog
#

They designed the final boss movesets in the case that little timmy perfectly masters dodging all the attacks but is too afraid to attack on any of them except that one move they're really confident about Kapar

#

Challenge run where after deadly sun you're only allowed to damage chaos elfilis core by reflecting the para matter bits Kapar

vagrant hound
#

I would genuinely do this

twin fog
#

šŸ‘ļø

vagrant hound
#

Maybe next time when I stream

#

Also need to figure out which ability lets me reflect the para matter the most

twin fog
#

My guess would be like tornado simply from how fast it can move

#

iirc the ranger needs a level 1 charge or two uncharged to defeat the bits

#

But maybe that's without +⭐ and attack boost idr

vagrant hound
#

Ultimately it also depends on how easy I can defeat the other boss in general

#

I don’t feel like dying

twin fog
#

Society if amiibo gave you abilities

vagrant hound
#

So real

twin fog
#

Actually morpho knight with beeg blade and moonshots would probably be the fastest way to defeat bits

vagrant hound
#

Hmmmm honestly you might be right

#

Just requires full or + health 😭

#

And not accidentally hit Elfilis

twin fog
#

Unless the moonshots don't go under the core and you fail the challenge from hitting it

#

Moment

vagrant hound
#

LOOOOL

#

I could test it later

#

Along with testing the late beast pattern

#

Galactal I hate you

#

I love how MK and Dedede feels easier

twin fog
#

Galactal when dude does nothing the whole match except 'teleport' very slowly

vagrant hound
#

I hate the contact damage </3

wise flame
#

Galactals are kinda annoying in UCZEX

#

They don't even have variation they're just tacked in between the mid bosses

twin fog
#

Why do mfs have so much health

vagrant hound
#

Galactal showing up makes me go :D to :| real quick

twin fog
#

They do absolutely god nothing why do they need that much health

vagrant hound
#

So much health that doesn’t even show up

wise flame
#

The only "difference" between both fights is that they spawn different goons

twin fog
#

Ice Sphere Doomer should've gotten that much health that mf has more attacks than a boss

#

Galactal does fuck all

wise flame
#

The big fucking scary gorilla that is 20x my height?
Yeah I can just step on his toes no problem

vagrant hound
#

I can’t wait to find out the accurate HP for every boss and see Galactal has double the health as most of them /j /j /j

vital lodge
#

they also deal great damage

wise flame
#

Oh this ballerina girl that's only 2x my height?

Nope don't touch her she hurts somehow

vagrant hound
#

I TOUCHED THEIR HAND AND LOST 1/3 OF MT HEALTH I HATE YOU GALACTAL

twin fog
#

The only good thing about galactal is that they don't have a defense multiplier when they're spawning or on phase transitions like actual mid-bosses do

wise flame
#

Why didn't they think of removing contact damage for mid-bosses??

#

3 years

obtuse berry
#

To spite tornado & needle for fun

wise flame
#

The mid-bosses just have this quirk as if they're some sorta "buffer" or something to make the next genuine boss intimidating

vital lodge
twin fog
#

Oh huh

#

Maybe they do then

wise flame
#

Note to self:
Dragon Brother? Safe

Literally the spawn of Dragon brother? Ouchie

twin fog
#

idk I don't have the game Kapar

wise flame
#

...What

gleaming stream
#

Man, Galactals got done so dirty

twin fog
#

Speaking of HP
I wonder how much less HP Genwel has in ZEX

#

Dude feels like he got a crazy health cut

obtuse berry
#

Was about to say what was the hp cut in the UCZ for the bosses there, but they have the same amount as their main (forgo dreams) mode counterparts don't they?

gleaming stream
#

wmex, did you like the Galactals

turbid nexus
#

Genuinely those guys are tanked
Love em

obtuse berry
#

The teleports are a bit of a time waster & their attacks aren't too special outside of the meteor maybe, bit they're ok

#

Maybe a bit too tanky for certain abilites / no ability since they barely spawn in a lot of stars

gleaming stream
#

Tanky, huh

shut pendant
#

awesome

twin fog
#

wojak points

shut pendant
#

WOO HAL ROOM

shrewd oracle
#

:ICANT:

random tendon
#

any ishikawa songs /genq

late girder
#

The video is more than two hours, so probably.

random tendon
#

woah

twin fog
#

It's like 96.9% of SCW/ZEX

random tendon
#

peak

#

actually it will only be peak if it has beast drum of meteors

shrewd oracle
#

i actually think that's like

vagrant hound
#

HAL room Starry ver is the best HAL room music lololunch

shrewd oracle
#

one of the few scw original tracks that's not in there

random tendon
#

NOOOOO

tardy mortar
#

Putting aside Mangosteen's cover

#

ćŖć‚‹ć¹ćNEICHELć•ć‚“ć£ć½ćē™ŗå£°ć‚’ä¼¼ć›ć¦ę­Œć£ć¦ć‚‚ć‚‰ć„ć¾ć—ćŸćŒć€ć‚ćć¾ć§åˆ„äŗŗć®å£°ć‚’ē„”ē†ć‚„ć‚ŠåÆ„ć›ć¦ć„ć‚‹ć ć‘ćŖć®ć§ć”å®¹čµ¦ćć ć•ć„ć€‚

ā†“ćƒ‡ćƒ•ć‚©å­ćƒćƒ¼ć‚øćƒ§ćƒ³ćÆć“ć”ć‚‰
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjEdut1T3Ak

ā—†åŽŸę›²
未完/ćƒ©ć‚¹ćƒˆć‚½ćƒ³ć‚° (NEICHEL Unfinished Track)
ć€ę˜Ÿć®ć‚«ćƒ¼...

ā–¶ Play video
#

That is pretty damn good too lol

shut pendant
#

oh wow they really weren't lying about the whole game being leaked lol
this message is from 4 days before the game came out

gleaming stream
#

Meteonelfilis

shut pendant
#

i really like the contrast between their splash screen poses and how fecto is a lot more majestic while genwel is PISSED

gleaming stream
#

Genwel’s hate for Kirby is so funny

languid cobalt
languid cobalt
gleaming stream
#

Kirbwah

random shoal
#

Apparently he didn't care that much for Elfilis, I think he was pissed purely on principal

#

"bro how could you die to a pipsqueak like that, you make me so fucking mad rn" type beat

shut pendant
#

"my sibling SUCKED ASS at destoying this planet i'm gonna SHOW THEM HOW IT'S D-"

kirby, jolly as ever:

turbid nexus
#

There’s no way Meteonelfilis is gonna have a change if heart, the second they get out of that crystal again he’s making a beeline for Kirby’s ass😭

gleaming stream
#

Implying that he’ll escape again

turbid nexus
#

Maybe they’ll let him out if he behaves well enough lol

gleaming stream
#

Lol

shut pendant
coarse arrow
#

Imagine if Meteonelfilis finished Absorbing the starries Mid-Elfilis fight

#

(This will be a Ultra Kirby Clash boss fight trust the process)

shut pendant
#

you know
i'm starting to get a little suspicious about how all these final bosses just kinda... leave

#

galacta knight obviously keeps getting re-sealed over and over
true arena magolor soul left into some random dimensional rift
and meteonelfilis is just sealed again rather than destroyed or whatever

#

can't wait for the evil villain team-up in 3 years

#

which will obviously also feature dark rider or whoever the kirby air riders guy is

random shoal
#

i mean lowkey itd be kind of sick if this is how they could justify some kind of villain team up in the future

#

especially would be funny if magolor was in the plot. magolor fights his corrupted self from alternate timeline

shut pendant
#

that sounds like something magolor would do

#

are there any other villains that just kinda left in the same way

#

like yin-yarn was yeeted into space i guess

#

dark meta knight got friend hearted in star allies but he's still like a douchebag normally probably

coarse arrow
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Magolor comes back to make more money only to see magolor soul from another dimension going batshit

languid cobalt
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With mefilis, you could say that hes just floating around like galacta knight does when hes sealed

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But the other 2 were active choices

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What they mean idk

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But im excited to know

gleaming stream
languid cobalt
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If aeon heros temporal

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Its kind of irrelevant that he died lmao

gleaming stream
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You mean, he’ll be back

languid cobalt
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Yep

gleaming stream
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Morpho will show up and erase him for real

shrewd oracle
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sinister six

toxic delta
vagrant hound
twin fog
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God Chaos Elfilis 1 in ZEX with the crystallization is so sexy with how much damage it does

wise flame
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*zexy

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FIFY

vagrant hound
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ć€Œę˜Ÿć®ć‚«ćƒ¼ćƒ“ć‚£ć€ć‚·ćƒŖćƒ¼ć‚ŗćŖć©ć®ć‚²ćƒ¼ćƒ ć‚½ćƒ•ćƒˆé–‹ē™ŗć‚’ę‰‹ćŒć‘ć‚‹ć€ę Ŗå¼ä¼šē¤¾ćƒćƒ«ē ”ē©¶ę‰€ć®å…¬å¼ć‚µć‚¤ćƒˆć€‚ļ½œThe official website of HAL Laboratory, Inc., developers of the Kirby series and other games.

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KUMA DRAWING

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!?

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KUMA STARRY????????????????

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of course kuma mentions hard stuff

obtuse berry
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he should've mentioned tilt and roll's new track instead

vagrant hound
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NAZO NO UTA

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LOL

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unfinished track again

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kuma is mentioning similar stuff as the interview

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about the diva...

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and about how the meteor was attracted by the song

vagrant hound
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YOOOO

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NEW WORLD

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LANGUAGE

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DIES

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ā€»ēæ»čØ³ļ¼šćć‚‰ć‚ćé„ć‹ęµę˜Ÿć‚ˆć€ć‚ć®ē©ŗć‚’č¶…ćˆć¦ ć‚ˆć†ć“ćļ¼

toxic delta
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see him mentioning that he wrote stuff, as usual

vagrant hound
toxic delta
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bit of these were in Welcome to the New World too, but still nice

vagrant hound
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HAROAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 😭

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I will continue dying every time roa is mentioned

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I guess NW language @ripe bane

toxic delta
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of new ones, there's at least
ćƒ•ć‚”ćƒ«ćƒŠ = 遄恋
ćƒ«ćƒ¼ćƒ“ć‚§ćƒ« = 流星

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if I'm reading right

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also another instance of ćƒŽć‚¢ as 空 lol

vagrant hound
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bro really cant do this to us like this

fading tartan
vagrant hound
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kuma you cant do this to us, you're gonna kill us

late girder
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I JUST SAW IT OMGS

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i havent been reading here much i feel like im missing things 😢

vagrant hound
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I think I just threw up

gleaming stream
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I love the starry drawing

twin fog
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ancient, decaying vehicle in the climax
Clearly Kuma's talking about the Big Rig and nothing else YaLikeJazz

vagrant hound
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Spaceship_NewWorld among us!

twin fog
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Oh another tally for the language being called the ē•°äø–ē•ŒčØ€čŖž

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Funny isekai language

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Oh
He's confirmed it here that meteonelfilis was also drawn by song

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So he was indeed talking about Lagrange-Theia and not Roche Limit when he was talking about the building chorus in the ND interview

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Oh actually he mentions the singing voice here too

toxic delta
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well I guess that was more the Elfilis part
moreso Neichel directly caused them both to come lmaooo

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self-fulfilling prophecy

twin fog
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Self-fulfilling prophecies are fun
Though if you consider that the prophecy is not just a forewarning but also destiny/fate then maybe her song just 'decided' what the next meteor would be

toxic delta
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true

twin fog
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And like the fact that there would be a disastrous meteor shower was destined whether or not genwel heard the song and ended up being the meteor or not

vagrant hound
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wait so I wasnt tripping when I said about mefilis??

toxic delta
twin fog
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Yea they localized it out right
I love forgetting whether things are only in JP or made it into English

toxic delta
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yeah lol

errant plank
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Oh hell nah we have time paradoxes in Kirby now

twin fog
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Bro he did NOT just Hyness pause description us in a HAL blog post

vagrant hound
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kuma is hyness

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🫶

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bro today is wild day for me, kuma blog drop and tilt and roll kirby cafe jumpscare

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istg the meteor's gonna fall tomorrow and half the world will sunk

turbid nexus
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Not if I intervene

vagrant hound
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kuma turns into magolor and stops the meteor from falling

toxic delta
vagrant hound
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simply summon neichel

toxic delta
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easier solution, simply become Neichel

ripe bane
twin fog
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ćƒ†ć‚£ćƒ©ć‚Æćƒ« ćƒ•ć‚”ćƒ«ćƒŠ ćƒ«ćƒ¼ćƒ“ć‚§ćƒ«ćƒŽć€ćƒ•ć‚”ćƒ­ ćƒŽć‚¢ćƒŽ ćƒŖć‚©ćƒ¬ ćƒć‚”ćƒ­ć‚¢ļ¼
Tirakuru faruna ruuveruno, faro noano riore haroa!

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What the fuck

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Why is ćƒ«ćƒ¼ćƒ“ć‚§ćƒ«ćƒŽ meteor

toxic delta
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think it's just ćƒ«ćƒ¼ćƒ“ć‚§ćƒ« but yeah idk

ripe bane
toxic delta
twin fog
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ok but like
What the fuck does faluwa mean then 😭
Wikirby thought faluwa was the first word of Twinkling Star Showers but according to this that was faruna

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And yea listening to the song it does sound way more like she's singing faruna

toxic delta
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who knows, maybe it's that but corrupted?? either that or some other word in the song

vagrant hound
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time to fix wikirby /j

lean grove
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inb4 kumazaki accidentally referencing development stuff we weren't supposed to see

spiral void
ripe bane
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By the way, is that 夢の跔 a Last Song reference?

twin fog
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He's talking about Spaceship New World

twin fog
random shoal
twin fog
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So yes tl;dr last song is indeed referencing Wondaria with that line

random shoal
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a bit confusing but i guess it makes sense?

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me when series now has two distinct theme parks so when you vaguely mention a theme park you have to think about which one is being referenced

twin fog
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Well there's still the part where it says 'land of falsehoods'

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Which seemingly has no real association with Wondaria while is blatantly a word married to Magolor

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Marry Magoland

random shoal
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neichel is kinda slandering magoland for no reason...

lean grove
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like its about the irony of a place thats supposed to be filled with people, not being that

twin fog
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There's a bunch of ways you can make things work
But the matter is that there is no blatant association between Wondaria and the term falsehoods like there is with magoland and its manager being kirby series' avatar of lying

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Like you could say 'oh wondaria is the land of falsehoods because it wasn't just there to be a fun amusement park about funny children's story but was used as a propaganda tool'

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Same with how I pointed out tickets evoke magoland where Stamp Tickets were a major mechanic of magoland

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Like yea wondaria is a theme park so obviously it also has tickets but that's never a focus unlike with magoland where its one of the key traits of it

lean grove
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i mean there are ticket booths everywhere in wondaria

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so idk about it not being dwelled upon

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its like anywhere you go they have that ticket booth model somewhere on the stage so like

twin fog
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My point is like
If Kuma dropped a line about 'that evil parasite'
There are characters who are literally thematically highlighted as parasites, like Mistilteinn, Genwel, and Sectonia
And like yea you could very solidly argue a bunch of other things in Kirby could be fittingly called parasites
But the point is those are the ones that actually have that trait directly highlighted and associated with them

lean grove
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it doesn't come across to me as anything more than just general theming

ripe bane
high widget
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whos the parasite

twin fog
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Bandana Waddle Dee’s bandana

coarse arrow
random shoal
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I wrote a blog post! I also drew a few Kirby picturesāœļø
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#kirby #Star-CrossedWorld
#ć‚«ćƒ¼ćƒ“ć‚£ #ć‚¹ć‚æćƒ¼ćƒŖćƒ¼

tacit saffron
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Kuma Starry

vagrant hound
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SCW has some of the most satisfying end tbh, as in like, wrapped up very nicely overall
It’s not that FL ended bad or anything, but the ending felt like things were missing. But SCW answered a lot of the question that I had in FL and so it feels very satisfying and wrapped up nicely

vagrant hound
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I’m just very glad Kuma didn’t go ā€œyeah btw Elfilis has 3 more siblingsā€

tacit saffron
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you can't say neichel

vagrant hound
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Like Wondaria, going to space, better view of Elfilis like why they showed up, what happened to the inhabitants, more about the inhabitants including Neichel, etc

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It may be my bias but it’s one of my favorite story from Kirby by far

my true bias stays in RTDL/DX and Magolor Epilogue being my favorite

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I love the theme, a lot

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(Like theme of the game)

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(Not as theme as just music)

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I’m glad we got to at least know Neichel was happy with making the unfinished track, even tho it’s interview lore LOL

gleaming stream
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I think the neichelor theory is neat

gleaming stream
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So, what did you all think of Mefilis

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I think it’s funny how they’re extremely petty

turbid nexus
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Honestly he’s probably my favorite antagonist now next to Elfilis

gleaming stream
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Really?

turbid nexus
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Mhm
Love me some screwed alien world conquerors

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He stole my heart when he used that huge ass building as a weaponSobKirby

gleaming stream
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Lol

coarse arrow
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Not only does he have probably the most insane boss design in the series (well he did kinda one-up elfilis in that regard but anyways) but also his fight is sick.

green crater
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I want a glow in the dark plush version

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Or maybe at least one that would glow really good under a black light

gleaming stream
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Cute idea but I doubt Hal will give the greenlight to make a final boss plushie

green crater
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Yeah no it'll never happen

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But a girl can imagine

gleaming stream
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Yes, imagination 🌈

green crater
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If I were better at sewing...

ripe bane
ripe bane
turbid nexus
gleaming stream
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If this fight is an indicator of switch 2 Kirby games to come then LETSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHYPERGAY

turbid nexus
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Also love how his eyes just go blank when his second phase is defeated 😭

gleaming stream
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Oof

languid cobalt
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I wonder if the next kirby game while be next year

gleaming stream
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Nah, too early

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Especially with Air Riders releasing this year

sand patrol
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so is neichel being the lor just now the most popular takeaway

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cause i feel like thats kind of a bleh conclusion

lean grove
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don't say that out loud, now you're going to get the defenders

sand patrol
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my b

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i just feel like its doing the thing again where everything has to be literally connected to everything else

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cant just be subtext

tepid burrow
sand patrol
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is poopy theory

tepid burrow
gleaming stream
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I like the theory but it’s only a theory

turbid nexus
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I just think it’s funny

green crater
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I don't mind it because it's funny, but I honestly see the song as being references for the sake of references

tepid burrow
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Honestly

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I really don’t mind the Lor Neichel Theory, but it helps me Like the Lor Even More

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the devious Kumazaki and his Kirby lore

green crater
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I've also seen some people say "Lor is literally Neichel" and others say "Lor has AI based on Neichel", and of the two I think the second one is at least more reasonable

But also not everything has to mean something

tepid burrow
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But how does Neichel become the Lor?

shut pendant
tepid burrow
shut pendant
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this is truly the kirby = void of forgotten land

turbid nexus
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The reason why the Lor actually beeps in the song is because Magolor passed through the New World while the last meteors were striking the continent she was on and did nothing to help because he sucks and I don’t like him (heartwarming)

tepid burrow
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Let’s just say Kirby theories are something

shut pendant
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are there any good kirby theories

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like, in general

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and like actual theories with multiple pieces of compelling evidence and not just headcanons with 0-1

tepid burrow
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That’s a good one

turbid nexus
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It should be true smh

shut pendant
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because i am mature enough to understand the quality of someone's personal idea while also having my own unique opinions on the matter

ripe bane
# shut pendant are there any good kirby theories

Galacta Knight being one of the 4 heroes who sealed Void and the Starries sealing him are technically still theories. Also, the new world inhabitants being part of the ancients and also them being the scientists Hyness mentions.

shut pendant
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i think there's a line between theories and things that are very obviously implied

lean grove
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can't have a theory with no evidence, can't have a theory with compelling evidence

tardy mortar
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tbh Neichel = Lor is at least imo not coming from nothing

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at least it feels way more reasonable of a theory than like

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Kirby is Void lol

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I am part of those who thinks the song isn't doing random references for the sake of it

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I do think however that saying Neichel = Lor is a bit presomptuous

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and we don't have enough evidence to support that

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but I do think they are linked

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the way it's linked however? who knows

ripe bane
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I honestly think the Lor sound effects in the song are meant to reference the fact that new world ships looked like it and the mechanical heart line was meant to mean that machines can't really fulfill people's wishes, a recurrent theme in Kirby.

vagrant hound
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Neichel theory be like

Neichel: I just had a random dream of this egg achieving his dream, so Imma make this part of the song because it sounds joyous

Neichel: Magolor is my son

Neichel: I… am Lor Starcutter

tardy mortar
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it can be possible that the Lor sound at the end is actually that the New World spaceship does the same sound

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and as much as I don't rule that out

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...it still links everything to Lor

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lol

shut pendant
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#1357065850951041247 message taking this message out of context

tulip coralBOT
ripe bane
tardy mortar
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whether the link is direct or indirect

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there's a connection to Lor 100% to me

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I am straight up convinced there's something

ripe bane
tardy mortar
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I just think we can't figure it out yet

ripe bane
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But it doesn't make sense to me that Neichel would become the Lor after being implied to be happy about her decision to stay in the new world.

tepid burrow
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Why does everything have to be related to RTDL?!

tardy mortar
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well

ripe bane
tardy mortar
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Neichel seems to regret that choice

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if the song is to be believed

tepid burrow
tardy mortar
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but here's a theory

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what if everyone except Neichel are people who always chose the option that would get to their inevitable doom

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that one is completely out of nowhere from me