664 rare stones. Why did I do this to myself 😭
#Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)
broken void
now get ready to Mash A
ocean ingot
To get full, true completion, what better way to prove you one hundred percented than getting every figure nine times 
green crater
i mean all you really need is 3 copies of every figure
Unless they changed something, three copies doesn't let you display three of the same one at once anyway. Unless you have another reason for saying three
late girder
any more is just. why
u need 9 to crown a fig and crowns mean ur king and doesnt everyone wanna rule???
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u need 9 to crown a fig and crowns mean ur king and doesnt everyone wanna rule??...
no
late girder
aw 😔
obtuse berry
wise flame
where did he go?!
toxic delta
up high in the center, not sure if there's platform there or what
wise flame
Ok better question: how'd he go?!
toxic delta
weird collision near the wall did it I think? but idk either
there are spots where if you touch them game automatically respawns you elsewhere (but most of the time they're out of bounds and/or don't do it immediately)
lean grove
its really common throughout this DLC for some reason
the collision of the crystals makes the game think you're stuck in a fall loop
and activate the anti-softlock measures by warping you back to the last place you were
toxic delta
its really common throughout this DLC for some reason
yeah, did see a video of it in Meteor Shower's Arrival too iirc
west goblet
This final boss is incredible. These visuals are insane.
vagrant hound
This is cute lol
Elfilin mentioned how he’s little embarrassed about how there’s an figurine of Kirby and Elfilin sleeping https://vxtwitter.com/kirby_jp/status/1967785793709281400?s=46
They were turned into figures without permission smh </3
vagrant hound
Full reveal of Astronomer Dee is here https://x.com/sanei_nlg/status/1967876115298480245?s=46
X
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Astrody
random shoal
coperdeecus
coarse arrow
Deelileo
somber temple
Full reveal of Astronomer Dee is here https://x.com/sanei_nlg/status/19678761152...
holy shit he's a marketable plushie too now
gleaming stream
Full reveal of Astronomer Dee is here https://x.com/sanei_nlg/status/19678761152...
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Rude\
gleaming stream
It's what that hackfraud dee deserves 
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Rude
vagrant hound
Bro did not deserve this
gleaming stream
His days are numbered
rapid stump
Oh they patched out that toy hammer trick?
green crater
If you mean the super jump, that wasn't exclusive to toy hammer, but yeah it was patched out
gleaming stream
wise flame
https://fixupx.com/nintendoeurope/status/1967966707315556730?s=46 yay Bandee
That damned figure collection music-
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https://fixupx.com/nintendoeurope/status/1967966707315556730?s=46 yay Bandee
the timing at the end though is perfect
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the new world inhabitants
broken void
wtf it's just like the damn intro cutscene
vagrant hound
New present code
https://x.com/kirby_jp/status/1968246150332600428?s=46
X
random tendon
kirby colorful store...
still sad I didn't manage to go during a time it was active :(
random tendon
the new world inhabitants
vagrant hound
gonna miss out by 2 weeks lel
I legit have worse luck in terms of colorful store because I missed out the one that happened near my old hometown, left like the day before
I was with my parent so I had to go, and my grandparent is very strict and would've killed me if I dont arrive to their place in time
vagrant hound
I LITERALLY SAW THEM SETTING UP THE DAY BEFORE HFHHHGHGHHG
whole dawn
the new world inhabitants
Shortly said- in einer nussschale!
fading tartan
OH MY GOD I JUST REALIZED SMTH
THERES 86 EX FIGURINES TOTAL
SNEAKY SNEAKY HAL.....
robust tundra
green crater
HAL intern: Shoot, we only have 82 of them
Kuma: It's fine, just add a couple random models you like
vagrant hound
HAL intern: Shoot, we only have 82 of them
Kuma: It's fine, just add a couple ra...
This is how we received random props
twin fog
Love the random trees and shit, really felt like they should've been in the base game considering all the random shit that was in the basegame figures
vagrant hound
I’m surprised they didn’t covered much more crystallized enemies
shut pendant
THERES 86 EX FIGURINES TOTAL
they realized they added more than 86 figures in the original game and had to fix their mistakes
shut pendant
865555555555
vagrant hound
My mother’s favorite song so far is Frost Street Snow Park
Otherwise she likes the Twinkling Star Showers a lot
fading tartan
My mother’s favorite song so far is Frost Street Snow Park
OOOH
me personally its the one with snow men
fading tartan
YA
fading tartan
OH MY GOD
OH MY GOD IM GONNA CRY
I JUST GOT TO THE NEW HAL ROOM
||WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERES A GREEN TREE MEMORIES REMIX???||
random shoal
||i think that track remixes all three major vocal themes||
fading tartan
||i think that track remixes all three major vocal themes||
OH MY GOD????
THIS SONG IS AMAZING AUUGHGHFHFJ
I WOULD HAVE NEVER EXPECTED THIS TYPE OF MUSIC FROM KIRBY WOW
THIS SOUNDS LIKE SNAILS HOUSE
||wait im past the twinkling star shower part, whats this melody???||
toxic delta
THIS SOUNDS LIKE SNAILS HOUSE
LOL I haven't heard much of their music but you're right it sort of does
fading tartan
YAYA
fading tartan
||wait im past the twinkling star shower part, whats this melody???||
does anyone know??
i have never heard this before i dont think. if i have id recognize it
toxic delta
LOL I haven't heard much of their music but you're right it sort of does
I only know them because of their Kirby-references to begin with
fading tartan
HEHE SAME
green crater
These waves have been nice, though, because apparently I missed a whole bunch the first go around
toxic delta
no Fallen-Star Volcano icon....
tardy mortar
lol the last wave is just 1 icon
and 2 more backgrounds and stuff but yeah not much lol
tardy mortar
twin fog
God I want Star-Crossed World datamines to know what the fuck is going on with Lagrange point transitions
Why does this song sometimes only transition to phase 2 like by the time you're halfway through the phase 2 fight
wise flame
Hey IDK if I or someone else already mentioned this before, but... They haven't fixed Morpho's sword beam animation (it still shows as Galaxia)
wise flame
God I want Star-Crossed World datamines to know what the fuck is going on with L...
Man, Forgotten Land has some serious music progression issues... It's like the music was built for a context where Kirby was using low-level abilities... way too much buildup and no snap to the next point
toxic delta
I mean SCW does it fine
and only issue in base game was for Fecto Elfilis
since there you could have to hear the transition loop for a good while
gleaming stream
wise flame
So they're just going to keep using the (banger) figure collection music, ok ok
random shoal
i think its very funny how they keep advertising this dlc
wise flame
Ok so just overall, SCW's "base game" are the levels up to the end of the Desert World...
While the "postgame" are the final 2 levels in Redgar
warped harbor
My father won’t let me get star-crossed world he thinks it's too childish
I’ve been saving up for a while now
gleaming stream
Your father is cringe
warped harbor
Your father is cringe
Damn
jolly lichen
God I want Star-Crossed World datamines to know what the fuck is going on with L...
just hoping someone find way to hack switch 2 as soon as possible... 🙏
toxic delta
https://www.hallab.co.jp/blog/detail/5944/ new HAL Blog
vagrant hound
OOHARA
gleaming stream
https://fixupx.com/kirby_jp/status/1968873211694821661?s=46 not the tweet asking if Bandee is okay lol
vagrant hound
Ohara was assigned after some BGM were already finished…
toxic delta
OOHARA
on the flip side, we still have no idea of anything about Kato lol
can't wait for them to turn into modern Shimomura (composer edition)
vagrant hound
We will find more about it in future, I’m just happy we got something from sound team, and from Ohara san after long absence and not hearing from her in while
late girder
like the last time we heard her was 2022 right during 30th concert stuff 😭
toxic delta
probably yeah
vagrant hound
Ooooooharaaaaaa saaaaaaaan!!!!!!!! Music <3
late girder
unrelated but imagine if hal had an rss feed for their blog thatd be cool i hate relying on twitter
toxic delta
I just refreshed the page until it showed up lol
since last week it was around that time
twin fog
God I want to hear all the Lagrange transitions
The weirdest thing I've noticed is the song seems to be meant to transition before genwel 1 is actually defeated
I've seen the transition when Genwel is at like 5% health or something
hardy zinc
Do you need to get to a certain point in the game for the star crossed stuff to unlock? I bought the game yesterday and cleared the first section and haven’t seen anything yet
The title screen still says “Star crossed world” so I assume I have to play a little more to see it, but I want to be sure
vagrant hound
You just need to do first level
lean grove
Do you need to get to a certain point in the game for the star crossed stuff to ...
after you beat the first boss
vagrant hound
Brawl at the mall….
random tendon
<https://www.hallab.co.jp/blog/detail/5944/> new HAL Blog
neat... but who the hell is yuki kato ohara, answer please
vagrant hound
The way you said Yuki Kato and Ohara’s name, it sounded like Yuki Kato (middle name) Ohara 😭
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You know i never really thought about japanese middle names
vagrant hound
They don’t exist 
(I wish I had middle name but you don’t get one if you’re born in Japan…)
vagrant hound
(If you’re Japanese bone in US, you can get middle name)
*bron
BORN
What lack of sleep does to a user
vagrant hound
Brone
random shoal
SLEEEEP
vagrant hound
I’m in class :(
random shoal
SLEEP AFTER CLASSES
vagrant hound
So real… gonna sleep after class and when NT updates
crimson hill
(I wish I had middle name but you don’t get one if you’re born in Japan…)
Just letting you know people don’t care about them really even if they do exist
They just first and last
mossy crane
my full name is 7 words long. you have no idea how annoying it is to write that every time
middle names were an evil and nefarious invention
stray relic
I think I've figured out some of the defensive weirdness with cutter, it has to do with trying to dodge while catching a cutter
It makes it unreasonably annoying to play and I can't imagine why it's designed this way
twin fog
Actually got to hear someone loop the bridge of lagrange point b/c they were so slow at doing damage
fading tartan
hey, what was everyones favorite starry stage? :O
i cant decide between "freezing wind and some snowmen" and "crystal beast pack battle"
hybrid bolt
Freezing wind and some snowmen is one of the reasons why I gas the dlc up
shut pendant
i like spinning dream parade, though waste that count time would probably be my favorite if it wasn't as similar to the original stage with the big open area
hybrid bolt
i like spinning dream parade, though waste that count time would probably be my ...
Fair though it’s still a really good stage for me
sudden mirage
spinning dream parade 🔥🔥🔥
stray relic
Finally got chakram cutter 28/33
Last ones left: cutter, tornado, pencil drill, drill, needle
Them are some trash
twin fog
You know
I wonder how many people would look at Elfilis and Genwel and say they're not 2 fully different bosses but meanwhile count Meta Knight and Morpho or Dedede and Forgo Dedede as 2 fully different FL bosses
lean grove
You know
I wonder how many people would look at Elfilis and Genwel and say they'...
i mean this is from an attacks perspective right
twin fog
From whatever perspective any given person wants to approach their view on it
lean grove
Meta and Morpho only share like 1 attack combo i think
Morpho doesn't even keep Upper Calibur
twin fog
Between the three sets I'd say Meta and Morpho are the least different and Genwel and Elfilis are the most different
I'd also say that between Fecto, Chaos, and Genwel, there's 4 unique bosses
There's the Elfilis fight shared by all 3, there's the chaos orb that's a different boss, there's the Giant Impact Genwel that's a different boss, and there's the Roche Sphere that's a different boss (But a half-baked story-purpose boss like fecto forgo)
obtuse berry
I seen a few ppl treat genwel as a reused one just bc he looks alike to elfilis. I only seen one acknowledge that the giant form is unique in terms of moveset at least
twin fog
I seen a few ppl treat genwel as a reused one just bc he looks alike to elfilis....
Yea it throws me off when people are like 'reused boss' and they're not like being facetious and are actually totally serious
Like phase 1 is a reused boss and then phase 2 and 3 are both original
Which goes back to my question, if these people go 'nuh uh phase 2 isn't original b/c its a base game boss's model with bells and whistles' then do they consider meta and morpho or ddd and forgo ddd 1 boss
When those are far more alike than genwel 2 is to elfilis
B/c when I first saw the final boss of SCW my reaction was basically 'oh so they did a Magolor Epilogue again'
With how Crowned Doomer is reused boss, Mistilteinn is original boss that's tied to the base game final boss (Being the crown again), and then instead of funny quicktime segment you have the roche sphere 'fight'
And like yea mistilteinn is a far more new design from magolor 2 than genwel is from elfilis but like
its still an original boss lol
tacit saffron
cool that Genwel uses his tail as a wrecking ball
tacit saffron
cool that Genwel uses his tail as a wrecking ball
also the way how Genwel is more aggressive knowing that Elfilis failed and such
obtuse berry
Which goes back to my question, if these people go 'nuh uh phase 2 isn't origina...
I think some ppl do tbh. Maybe im generalizing an audience, but I feel like some ppl will not recognize bosses being new if they happen to be the same character or have similar enough models w/ close enough moveset as a basic glance
twin fog
I think some ppl do tbh. Maybe im generalizing an audience, but I feel like some...
I mean yea there definitely are some
When FL was new I loved talking with who thought DDD and Forgo DDD were two bosses vs 1 and what they thought about Mecha Knight and Mecha Knight+
But my thing right now is I’m convinced a lot of people who do think of meta vs morpho and ddd vs forgo ddd as separate bosses think of genwel as not a separate boss
obtuse berry
you've prob seen more playthroughs/streams on SCW than me so I'll take your word on ppl saying or thinking that
twin fog
I think the lesson to be learned here is they should’ve added Galacta Knight and Dark Meta Knight and Parallel Meta Knight to this game instead
obtuse berry
tru...
on meteonelfilis' case, I think first impressions is just hard to break for a lot, so their thought that it's a reused fight is already set at the 1st phase
twin fog
Brain does turn off after first impression
obtuse berry
maybe (big maybe) ppl would recognize the giant + orb phase as different if the fight didnt flow too well into the next phases (boss music still playing & into transition, boss still present on screen for most of it, etc.), but that's just me theorizing too much on how ppl think
twin fog
on meteonelfilis' case, I think first impressions is just hard to break for a lo...
Tbh this is the problem for Mecha Knight+ too
Since I’ve always argued that frankly the dumb scorpion tail attacks basically makes phase 2 a completely different boss (like 96.9% of players are killing the boss before it ever stops scorpion kinning and does a regular knight boss-like thing again) but like
Phase 1 isnt that different with just ‘what if giant sword’
vagrant hound
mefilis and elfilis being treated like they're reused and such is like, an fair statement for many players but also at same time it makes no sense lol like you mentioned how people treat meta and morpho, or dedede and forgo dedede, like they're obviously the "knight fight" or "dedede fight" after all but that's just in the style of the knights or dedede, but they're not the same. mefilis and elfilis are 2 separate character to begin with, and they have similar attack because they're grouped the same, doesnt mean they're just clone or reuse lol me when I cant say much further in here
Havent seen people go "mefilis is just reuse of elfilis" much in JPN community but Ive seen some reviews from people going "wow that was disappointing, elfilis clone" otherwise
hybrid bolt
people just had crazy high expectations. 🤷♂️
tacit saffron
that's how Switch 2 DLC/new content for SW2 editions is so far I guess
hybrid bolt
I played much more extensive DLC for around 30-40 bucks, and I feel they offer more substantial content for a reason. 🫰
violet kiln
mefilis and elfilis being treated like they're reused and such is like, an fair ...
it's also a bit silly when meteonelfilis literally has a second form that is mechanically a completely new fight
vagrant hound
gleaming stream
tepid burrow
5 days until spoiler policy ends 
vagrant hound
ah finally I can talk about how magolor killed mefilis with a ultra sword, an parody to how he defeated master crown in magolor epilogue
tepid burrow
ah finally I can talk about how magolor killed mefilis with a ultra sword, an pa...
That’s the best part of the DLC
vagrant hound
aura farming magolor in scw
tepid burrow
Oh wait what I’m I talking about?! I hate Magolor!
gleaming stream
too bad a starry sucker punched him into the stratosphere
tepid burrow
But playing as Magolor was a dream come true!
fading tartan
listening to final boss music again, WHY are there galacta knight motifs 😭
twin fog
Kumazaki ordering Ando to throw in a bunch of stupid character leitmotifs not b/c those characters are there but b/c the boss does something very vaguely similar to them b/c its really funny:
turbid nexus
May all the pain King K. Rool fans felt get sent to Galacta Knight fans
twin fog
Kumazaki: Ok so the boss is crystal themed right and all the crystals are blue and spiky in this game
Ando: yea
Kumazaki: Genwel will make a smooth pink crystal to surround himself in instead like Galacta Knight
Ando: Why
Kumazaki: And like he has this orb on his head that looks like void termina and after you defeat him his body disappears and only that orb remains and the orb grows an eye and fights you
Ando: Wait so is the orb Genwel's true form, why is it like tha-
Kumazaki: And he will turn giant and he will stand outside of the platform you're standing on to attack you like King Dedede in Blowout Blast
Ando: Ok su-
Kumazaki: Now throw all of their leitmotifs in there
Ando: Wait is there a story connection with the giant dedede thi-
Kumazaki: That would get to the heart of the matter
Ando:...
Ando: Is there a story connection on the other two things either
Kumazaki:
Ando: I accidentally put Sectonia in there again
KumazakI: Good
shrewd bridge
Kumazaki: Ok so the boss is crystal themed right and all the crystals are blue a...
“Um actually the sectonia motif is cause genwell looks like soul of sectonia when he does the big laser attack 
“
twin fog
I would accept that if dude ACTUALLY FIRED A GIANT LASER IN PHASE 2 SMH
jolly lichen
I would accept that if dude ACTUALLY FIRED A GIANT LASER IN PHASE 2 SMH
I think he spend all of energy for sending tons of long slashes instead of laser 
random tendon
Kumazaki: Ok so the boss is crystal themed right and all the crystals are blue a...
dang it the SCW interview is way more interesting that I expected it to be
fading tartan
Kumazaki: Ok so the boss is crystal themed right and all the crystals are blue a...
IS THAT WHY THEIR MOTIFS ARE THERE?????????
BAHAHAHAHAHA
toxic delta
(it's a joke, interview doesn't even have Ando I think)
fading tartan
(it's a joke, interview doesn't even have Ando I think)
OOOOH okay
sorry i tend to take things literally xp
twin fog
Wait actually ig one of those jokes is a spoiler
lofty gyro
I discovered that I can make 9 minutes go by really fast during a boring time by humming the final boss theme lmao
wise flame
Ok so yeah SCW absolutely works better as a first time playthrough
(just beat Elfilis then got to the remaining levels and to SCW's final boss)
warped harbor
Real
random tendon
still no interview right
random shoal
yukkuri didnt get a copy and neither anyone else who would put it up online ig
vagrant hound
Didn’t get my interview yet but had someone telling me some stuff #1410236410564182097
fading tartan
honestly? looking back literally the ONLY gripe i have with scw is that i wish there were at least one or two more surprise mouthful modes
vagrant hound
Didn’t get my interview yet but had someone telling me some stuff <#141023641056...
update, reading the interview and dying rn
wise flame
BTW HOLY shit the 2nd tier evos still struggle against Genwel
twin fog
Oh even the laser sight of ranger reflects
I guess that makes sense
Never really thought about the fact that it was an actual beam of light coming out of the gun and not just UI like the reticle is
gleaming stream
They’re so cute
acoustic robin
Last 4 are cutter, drill, pencil drill, needle
ooo what are you up to? :o
stray relic
ooo what are you up to? :o
30/33 done, tier 2 done
Cutter drill and needle left, all a special kind of trash
acoustic robin
30/33 done, tier 2 done
okay okay but like-
what is it you're doing? :o
wise flame
Replaying UCZEX with every evolution I suppose
stray relic
Every ability no items base rank
I'm so good at the game now that even this shit wasn't much of a challenge anymore, I literally had a tomato left
And that, finally, makes the 33/33 for UCZ. I have no idea why I couldn't do this before, I guess UCZEX made me get a lot better.
Now can genwel 3 be done with base drill?
oak olive
i hope i can revisit all these levels after beating whatever final boss there is
because they're super cool but also long. i really don't feel like replaying them just to look for some challenge i forgot
also because a lot of them are "do [this] without taking damage" which is super annoying because there usually isn't a simple Retry button, you gotta start over
green crater
i hope i can revisit all these levels after beating whatever final boss there is
Yeah, it's just like the base game levels. You can come back at any point to replay, either to collect things you missed or just because you want to
oak olive
yeah... but even in base game some of the levels made me tear my hair out
i guess it's just more of the same, I'll get good and it'll be more fun with time. right now it just looks like a huge chore
green crater
I honestly recommend just playing the levels as is, getting what's reasonable, finishing the finale. And then coming back for those ones, but only if you actually want to.
oak olive
especially since I'm replaying the base game alongside it. and some base levels are already giving md some trouble (i didn't keep up with the missions in some of them 💀)
oak olive
I honestly recommend just playing the levels as is, getting what's reasonable, f...
yeah, true!
green crater
I'm very much for the idea of doing "clean up" later
Getting stuck trying to 100% levels before moving on is how I end up quitting games before finishing them
oak olive
i already do feel like playing some earlier ones twice bc they're genuinely fun, but i also want to focus on progressing
oak olive
Getting stuck trying to 100% levels before moving on is how I end up quitting ga...
yeah that's true
i agree. it's why first beating a level i thought this DLC wasn't going to be as fun as i hoped
btw i just noticed the kirby burgers can have different faces
that's so good
hard oyster
If anyone is available to translate, I found this dev interview(?) on Twitter.
X
random tendon
If anyone is available to translate, I found this dev interview(?) on Twitter.
...
I've already been working on translating it, yukkuri some days ago shared the main points of it in the spoilers thread
hopefully I can finish the full translation by the end of this week
either way that tweet image has most of it blurred on purpose
hard oyster
either way that tweet image has most of it blurred on purpose
Oh, sorry about that. 😓
random tendon
all good, I will admit I only noticed when I tried to zoom in
oak olive
building a collection of beds
this screenshot will be funnier when i get the sleep ability evolution
gleaming stream
precious creatures
toxic delta
no, I'm consuming all 120 of them and you can't stop me
gleaming stream
greedy mf
green crater
They're so lickable
gleaming stream
true
turbid nexus
no, I'm consuming all 120 of them and you can't stop me
Genwel Meteonelfilis speech bubble
vagrant hound
no, I'm consuming all 120 of them and you can't stop me
I thought this message was about energy sphere 
toxic delta
I'm not a Sphere Doomer I think
broken void
I am
vagrant hound
I’m no sphere doomers but I wanna lick all the energy spheres
vagrant hound
Wings are awesome I think
broken void
feels awesome. I can fly!!!
vagrant hound
Oh my physical ver of Nintendo Dream just arrived today 
Literally said week delay and it arrived decently early 💀 💀 💀
Idk what to do with them 😭
turbid nexus
You lucked out
vagrant hound
I guess I’ll, take the Undertale 10th anniversary postcard but
Legit dunno what to do 
toxic delta
I mean it has Magolor mention so all is good in life
vagrant hound
Just gonna cut the Magolor page and stick it on a wall
Selling the SCW interview page for 86 gem apples
toxic delta
but the SCW interview mentions Magolor too....
vagrant hound
but the SCW interview mentions Magolor too....
Of course I’m cutting out that part as well
vagrant hound
toxic delta
hell yeah Todo
rapid stump
Ok cool someone did make only phase 3 of lagrange point on youtube
high widget
i thought that phase was called Sing of Radiant Theia tbqh
high widget
speaking of Lagrange Point
I think Lagrange Point using so many motifs is genuinely some sort of Deltarune fan-track type nonsense
like it legitimately reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_K9GfABX7o
gleaming stream
Lmaooo
random tendon
I can't believe bravely default has copied deltarune all this time
lean grove
i thought that phase was called Sing of Radiant Theia tbqh
pretty sure it is
high widget
also im realizing just now that Lagrange Point has like
that metal hit instrument/percussion from CROWNED
stray relic
ONLY TWO LEFT
Cutter, why are you SO bad?
I think I am gonna get the 100% at this point tho, I am much better with drill than I used to be
tepid burrow
Spoiler policy ends tonight
fading tartan
OH HEY QUESTION
has anyone figured out what the birds at the beginning of "meteor shower's arrival" are singing yet???
toxic delta
I still haven't heard anyone get good recording of that kind of stuff yet
my guess is Twinkling Star Showers but I can't tell
fading tartan
i can go back and listen to it rn
lemme see...
i almost want to say theyre singing "running through the new world" again but in a more distressed tone? or maybe its just the stage's theme
toxic delta
still can't really tell but probably more like that yeah
twin fog
It's still so weird to me that they made it so Genwel's dimension gate on the ground doesn't have a hitbox for his variation of Kuiper Belt Wave
Its like
Yea that's a weird ass hitbox but why is it gone only on Genwel lol
twin fog
This thread will finally be good when Star Dream gets Triumphant Returned
sterile quartz
Let’s laugh at Chaos Elfilis
||follow spoiler policy||
twin fog
I want to eat chaos elfilis core
gleaming stream
this truly was a magolor epilogue
sterile quartz
Star dream soul os stop resending that we get it
twin fog
Do you think it tastes like blueberry inside now
vagrant hound
Yes
green crater
robust tundra
Star dream soul os stop resending that we get it
that's an automatic thing it cant hear you
robust tundra
you bet kirby thought of that at one point
lean grove
this is so sad
sterile quartz
that's an automatic thing it cant hear you
turn it off
gleaming stream
yummy starries
lean grove
deedly dees, play despacito
shrewd bridge
I cant believe starman sacrificed himself to defeat mr alien man at the end
sterile quartz
yall sad
i'm lauging because i won
robust tundra
turn it off
i can't i'm not a mod
vagrant hound
I forgot the command
gleaming stream
I cant believe starman sacrificed himself to defeat mr alien man at the end
that's why starman is the best kirby character
vagrant hound
robust tundra
and even then they put it as automatic to keep remniding people and not spoil something on accident till the spoiler embargo lifts
twin fog
Smh why don't I have mod perms just so I can kill bots
shrewd bridge
smh you have the kill command highlighted in red
vagrant hound
@broken void do you remember how to stop sticky
shrewd bridge
Spoilers are allowed
Im going to put spoilers in your attic
sterile quartz
the policy literally states that it's ok to discuss spoilers
gleaming stream
wait, faye is not a mod
twin fog
Wait discord has a /me function like twitch???
green crater
yeah
twin fog
Oh it just italicizes ok
gleaming stream
im so stupid man
sterile quartz
so get star dream to fatal error
gleaming stream
how am I just noticing this now
shrewd bridge
noticing what
twin fog
I quit like a year and a half ago after they wouldn't let me eat basic battlegrounds
shrewd bridge
fair
robust tundra
so get star dream to fatal error
open planet robobot and go beat star dream at the true arena then 
vagrant hound
?stickstop
shrewd bridge
lets gooo
vagrant hound
Aha
shrewd bridge
freedom
gleaming stream
so, is this chat gonna close too
robust tundra
maybe??
twin fog
no you're going to close instead
gleaming stream
now we can discuss spoilers anywhere
vagrant hound
Nah this chat is staying opened
sterile quartz
dontsayitdontsayitDONTSAYIT
gleaming stream
same
gleaming stream
I liked the part where Magolor showed up and killed Neichel
shrewd bridge
Anyways, now that thats dealt with, i really hope nobody spoils star crossed world for me cause im getting it tomorrow :) :) :)
vagrant hound
Is there other mods that can help me right at this second I’m sobbing and crying where IS EVERYONE
sterile quartz
(Not sending (Deltarune chapter 3 spoilers DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT BEATEN THAT CHAPTER) ||Eram, The Knight|| or (chapter 4 spoilers DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT BEATEN THAT CHAPTER) ||Gerson||
twin fog
Just ping the server owner 19 times
vagrant hound
So true
vagrant hound
Kirby
robust tundra
(Not sending (Deltarune chapter 3 spoilers DO NOT READ IF YOU HAVE NOT BEATEN TH...
the spoiler embargo for deltarune has been lifted 4 months ago tho
green crater
Just ping the mod role a bunch of times. I'm sure nothing bad will happen
vagrant hound
True!
sterile quartz
the spoiler embargo for deltarune has been lifted 4 months ago tho
ok nvm
gleaming stream
Leo summoning circle
vagrant hound
<@&1308663579368755200>
shrewd bridge
and throw in one random member just to mess with people
sterile quartz
https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-eram-nightmare-shadow-mantle-secret-boss-gif-13...
vagrant hound
Erm this is SCW thread
sterile quartz
Erm this is SCW thread
ok fine i'll stop
this was in response to someone saying "FreedoM" and someone else saying "dont say it"
that's why i was sending deltarune boss gifs
shrewd bridge
neither of those even work for the freedom joke ;-;
sterile quartz
it was in response
shrewd bridge
they dont have the motif
gleaming stream
mefiliis would have the freedom motif
sterile quartz
they dont have the motif
ik but you fight them (well for real in dess's case) on the route
sterile quartz
mefiliis would have the freedom motif
would he
gleaming stream
I dunno, that's scary
twin fog
Meteonelfilis would roll umapyoi credits
sterile quartz
Meteonelfilis would roll umapyoi credits
meteonelfilis's horns look like atma weapon from ff6
twin fog
Meteonelfilis would have mystifying murmur
gleaming stream
Meteonelfilis would have mystifying murmur
sounds like a xenoblade art
sterile quartz
the most interesting thing about genwel is that his elfilis form is an illusion controlled by the orb while fecto-elfilis's elfilis form is their true form
which implies that either fectos age weirdly (the meteor form is the final state?) or genwel is somehow missing its other half?
twin fog
ok but consider this
They look exactly the same
What was HAL cooking
sterile quartz
ok but consider this
They look exactly the same
What was HAL cooking
😕
sterile quartz
ok but consider this
They look exactly the same
What was HAL cooking
ehh fair enough mockery of mine
you're as confused as i am
sterile quartz
ok but consider this
They look exactly the same
What was HAL cooking
btw chaos-elfilis still has that 02 look
and as I said before, rip Chaos-Elfilis's first spear
i wish that they wielded some fusion of Genwel's Ares and their own Chaos Antares
but i see what they were going for
Chaos-Elfilis base is the FL equivalent to Main Mode Crowned Magolor in RTDL
(exists but is supplanted in canon by harder variant)
vagrant hound
Neichel when she unfinished her track </3
fading tartan
NOOO
vagrant hound
Best female Kirby character
green crater
I like her hat
vagrant hound
I like her dress
sterile quartz
to celebrate look at my lord of chaos pics
chaos elfilis on that dr. weil grindset
sterile quartz
Speaking of Neichel, what do guys think of her
ok character
i am of the belief that she is dead outright
fading tartan
I WISH SHE DIDNT DIE I WANT MORE SONGS <//3
vagrant hound
History repeats
sterile quartz
and that her part in the story is over
fading tartan
its ok 3 songs is good enough
twin fog
God I want to know how much HP mefilis and zex chaos have
and by want to know I mean I'm not motivated enough to calculate it myself from watching how much damage things do to it
sterile quartz
and by want to know I mean I'm not motivated enough to calculate it myself from ...
We will find it
vagrant hound
I just want the SCW guide book to be real
sterile quartz
Also the HP of the ucz EX royal road style deficits
shrewd bridge
Someones going to have to offer their soul to the nintendo ninjas to get that info
vagrant hound
Or at least FL + SCW guide book (updated ver)
shrewd bridge
whose it gonna be
sterile quartz
I just want the SCW guide book to be real
Give us Genwel and fecto character clarity
Like does fecto still count as pure evil (villains wiki were fools to cut them)
twin fog
Maybe when enough time passes I will get impatient and actually go try and figure it out through health bar visuals and testing but I am not motivated enough yet
(I am hoping someone else is more obsessive to do that themselves instead of me)
vagrant hound
Just wait till Japanese community’s spoiler month is over
shrewd bridge
Maybe when enough time passes I will get impatient and actually go try and figur...
plus the potential for inaccuracy for that is pretty large
twin fog
Not really since we can mod the original and compare the healthbar basically to the pixel if we wanted to
vagrant hound
I’m still not forgiving RTDLDX guide book to not include TA Magolor Soul
shrewd bridge
i mean sure i guess educated guesses that the boss' hp is not in fact 694 and is actually 700 is there but
but considering base game chaos elfilis phase 1 has 3400 those numbers were for demonstration purposes only and are not an actual educated guess
sterile quartz
I’m still not forgiving RTDLDX guide book to not include TA Magolor Soul
It’s to troll people
toxic delta
I’m fearing we won’t actually get SCW guide book
same, but can't really tell if we will or won't for a few months
sterile quartz
Watch it have Genwel and z-ex but it lies and says Genwel replaces chaos
toxic delta
they wouldn't
vagrant hound
It’s to troll people
I mean, they did showed but they never showed like actual guide to it
toxic delta
yeah
sterile quartz
(This is the same lie I told a friend to hide chaos Elfilis EX)
toxic delta
yeah
SA ones also mentioned Void Soul even if it did not cover the fight (for whatever reason)
though it's also worth noting for RtDL DX one it was a reworked original RtDL guidebook
remember hearing about it having bit of oddities with how it implemented things in general
twin fog
Oh yea they did cover star dream soul os thoroughly in the PR guide huh
shrewd bridge
Oh yea they did cover star dream soul os thoroughly in the PR guide huh
the entire thing or just the heart phases?
toxic delta
they covered most final boss stuff thoroughly
it's just for SA and RtDL DX lol
toxic delta
the entire thing or just the heart phases?
entire thing yeah
shrewd bridge
cause for all 3 prior phases you could've just had an entire page with only "Press L/R to avoid all damage" on it
toxic delta
entire thing yeah
that's how we have the move names and phase names (outside of internal stuff)
vagrant hound
vagrant hound
twin fog
I still wanna know if black hole actually fucking works or not if the Core goes out of bounds or if they just like
Never considered that
B/c I just saw another player fighting chaos elfilis today where the core went out of bounds on the third black hole
ocean ingot
Man, still can't get over Chaos Magolor Soul, that really was crazy
vagrant hound
This means I can stream the entire SCW in the vc
toxic delta
same, but can't really tell if we will or won't for a few months
anyway also still wondering if there'll be SCW novel
but at least that one we'll probably find out in less than a month
trim sail
Confused as to why this thread is open if we can talk about the entire DLC anywhere
vagrant hound
I will probably stream ZEX this weekend
twin fog
The same reason we have Kirby channels instead of 'but this is a Kirby server why don't you just talk about kirby in general'
toxic delta
Confused as to why this thread is open if we can talk about the entire DLC anywh...
I mean it's the same thing as with the other Kirby games
trim sail
The same reason we have Kirby channels instead of 'but this is a Kirby server wh...
Fair enough
toxic delta
I remember us doing it for SA and FL and RtDL DX at least
vagrant hound
It’s like “I wanna focus on SCW only” vs “I wanna talk about SCW but also other games mixed”
shrewd bridge
at this point it will be used for a while and then die a natural death
toxic delta
It’s like “I wanna focus on SCW only” vs “I wanna talk about SCW but also other ...
yeah
it's still a recent game
twin fog
Do you think it's long enough that I can narcissist post without nintendo killing me btw
trim sail
The fact I thought about that reason and still asked why
vagrant hound
Ur fineeeeee
toxic delta
Do you think it's long enough that I can narcissist post without nintendo killin...
you mean repost all your mod videos again lol
maybe
twin fog
you mean repost all your mod videos again lol
maybe
My monke brain when I saw this
toxic delta
you gonna do comparison video of stuff or nah
twin fog
I should
This one isn't actually that similar beyond what a still frame makes it look like
But the triple black hole is crazy
shrewd bridge
smh cant believe the nintendo ninjas got you for leaking internal documents :(
rip
Was it also you who got their mod taking down that was putting the chaos elfilis effect over some of the other bosses
twin fog
yea lol
I put it on Forgo specifically
Me: What if Chaos Elfilis does black hole 3 times in a row, but between each black hole it shoots lasers at you and cutters in all directions you have to avoid during the black hole, oh and what if the black hole changed position
HAL: Combines the cutters and lasers into lasers shooting in every direction between black holes and otherwise does the same thing
The funniest part about this is I did originally intend the core to change position between each black hole but changed it to only between the second and third specifically because I realized it was possible for the core to go out of bounds which makes the black hole not work since it can't pull you out of the invisible wall
And at this point I have no idea if I just realized something HAL didn't when they made their version of this attack or not
shrewd bridge
I do have to wonder if the out of bounds black hole in Chaos Elfilis can suck you through the wall
If it came up in testing than i imagine it could and then would spit you out center stage or smth
but if not then oh well HAL's folly i guess
twin fog
I could see it maybe being possible they let the core go as far out as possible while still being barely in the wall where Kirby could still touch it but I'm really considering the possibility they just didn't notice
twin fog
If it came up in testing than i imagine it could and then would spit you out cen...
Oh yea that is another problem I had
Where even if the core itself was in bounds and kirby could get sucked up, it could spit kirby out oob after the attack was done
idk if they fixed that I'd hope they did
shrewd bridge
Oh yea that is another problem I had
Where even if the core itself was in bounds...
imagine if it didnt though and we could get dual elfilis again
twin fog
Unfortunately we do have OOB tricks and confirmed that elfilis doesn't clone regardless in S2E
twin fog
Yea
toxic delta
update didn't change shit yeah
in general really
most they added was like a button to go to S2E eShop page when on Switch 2 iirc
spiral void
lord of chaos 🤤
obtuse berry
SCW should randomly bring the cloning trigger to a different boss bc they somehow messed up the code and you can spawn in 7 morpho knights if you go out of bounds 
high widget
its very obviously twinkling star showers isnt it
wise flame
It's gotta be
Although compared to the original Arrival Point ambience, this one is more "naturalistic" to a point where it takes a while to register the reference
high widget
yeah it uses the bird sounds way more smartly
i think its because birds do sing like that
sing that sort of melody
anyway now that spoilers are lifted
wise flame
Oh yeah I can say shit uncensored and unfiltered now...
No i'll.... I'll do that later
wise flame
Oh blg also got the funny parade car stuck here
how?!
random shoal
Did people seriously theorize Daroach
Lmao
toxic delta
nah it was jokes lol
random shoal
Ok good
random shoal
Dark Nebula was the most convincing case for me
toxic delta
nah, most I thought was something vaguely related lol
but I was pretty set on Forgo relative already by that point
because part of FL + inside of Star of Darkness looked Forgo-esque close up (even from angles we had back then)
and it being obvious enough that Elfilis was part of a species
random shoal
I didn't really pay attention to the marketing all that much so out of all implausible theories Nebby sounded least implausible
toxic delta
ah lol
random shoal
I never believed in GK day one though
I saw people being so intent on thinking this is happening while only thing I felt was an impending disaster when it's not gonna
At this point if GK is getting anything relevant it's never going to be something we can realistically theorize about unless it's super telegraphed
toxic delta
ah lol
mostly was just memed on around here because 'Star of Darkness' thing
reminds me of how they said Fruit Fragments contained 'great power' (for Epilogue) lol
they should keep Nebula-baiting, it's funny
toxic delta
I never believed in GK day one though
I saw people being so intent on thinking ...
yeah, as soon as Starries figures got found that theory should have been dead in the water (at least for being final boss)
most I could have seen it as was ZEX boss lol
also lot of motifs people were saying were GK-related were more just....general things lmao
(and there did turn out to be a few actual implied connections in the end, but still)
random shoal
Like i said before, GK doesn't belong here
Starries is the connective tissue here and their connection being implied is far more interesting than GK just showing up somewhere he doesn't belong
toxic delta
also lot of motifs people were saying were GK-related were more just....general ...
Sectonia was main thing I used as example of 'yeah these share motifs, doesn't mean shit' back then
got gems and four-pointed stuff and stars and flowers and hearts and darkness stuff and constellations and singing and cool guitars, etc.
but does that alone mean anything? not really
Kirby series just really likes reusing motifs. a lot.
hell there was four-pointed stuff in base game FL lmao
toxic delta
Like i said before, GK doesn't belong here
Starries is the connective tissue her...
anyway yeah, do like the way they did it in the end
and having connections to lot of other stuff in general even if things did not explicitly appear
which is pretty similar to what base FL did
torn vapor
What if the elfilis species is actually chill and genwel and fecto were just losers
Like imagine meeting a member of the elfilis clan in the next game and they're one of the nicest characters in the game
random shoal
this is still questionable because like
even if they are just two losers
why do they have such insane powers
torn vapor
Maybe they're traitors
Or smth
Like it's common for people who have lots of power to eventually go a bit crazy
high widget
Like i said before, GK doesn't belong here
Starries is the connective tissue her...
Starries sealed GK so either way
it was a founded prediction just not Him In The Game
grave fractal
I didn't think GK being there is much of a stretch considering his random ass appearance in RTDL's true arena lol
drowsy beacon
One thing I'm curious about
I have played the original but haven't played the expansion - no Switch 2 yet, and no way to transfer savefile as the Switch 1 was gone without an online membership
How does the game's level progression work if I play without a save file?
I did see some spoilers for myself
If I unlock a new area, do the Starry levels appear alongside the new areas?
high widget
If I unlock a new area, do the Starry levels appear alongside the new areas?
iirc the Starry levels appear after you beat the boss
of the area
this means you can't do SCW's ending without finishing FL's base game story
drowsy beacon
Okay that makes sense
gleaming stream
sudden oracle
Elfilin: “I have a complicated family…”
Kirby: “Poyo poyo poyo… (Think yours is rough? You should see mine…)”
shut pendant
oh i didn't even notice the spoiler thread closed lol
languid cobalt
R.i.p to a goat
tepid burrow
You know what that means?
vagrant hound
All your theories are WRONG!!
twin fog
https://www.twitch.tv/syphith/clip/OddAlluringMinkPrimeMe-Cr5Rk9TKrkvcc0zn
Ok the dimension laser can false capture like Elfilis's could
Makes sense but first time seeing it at least
twin fog
Man just saw a dude not even do half of Roche Sphere's remaining health after the third crystal break b/c they were too scared to charge their ranger
This is what I was saying when I said Ranger is literally bottom tier if you don't know how to use it
Like it's not like they were wasting the time per se they started spamming shots immediately and never stopped but they just didn't go for a charge
And they didn't even come close to depleting the Roche Sphere's health
obtuse berry
lmao
languid cobalt
What are the chances of spear being in the next 3d kirby
shrewd bridge
I both am and am not surprised that spear wasn't in forgotten land
Bandana waddle dee is pretty much spear, but giving BWD something unique that kirby cant do in FL when kirby already has all the abilities and mouthful modes makes sense
its not like star allies where anyone can use the friend pedestal or friend hearts
random shoal
okay but star allies also didnt have spear
only game to have both spear and bandee as playable is rtdl and its remake
stray relic
WHAT THE ACTUAL SHIT
THIS WAS MY FIRST RUN
NO HIT ORB WITH THIS TRASH
I absolutely cannot believe I did this, by far the hardest thing I've ever done in this game
Only cutter remains, I'm certain I'll get it if I can do this, and that'll be the big 100%. Will I be the first player to do this?!
stray relic
Man just saw a dude not even do half of Roche Sphere's remaining health after th...
Is that what Genwel 3 is called? I thought roche was fecto's theme
Why not Lagrange Sphere?
twin fog
Its called that in the cutscene name
stray relic
Btw look at that time tho, i wonder if anyone has had a slower UCZEX run than that
shrewd oracle
didn't faye post clips of someone running into max timer
stray relic
I assume you'd have to stall on purpose to do that
Is anyone that bad at the game without getting themself killed?
(I assume it's 99:59?)
shrewd oracle
i didn't watch the run faye did so idk if this is what was going on, but i could easily see a scenario in which someone who's having trouble keeps retrying and thus reaching max time
bc retries keep the time of your past attempts
stray relic
Oh yeah that does exist
Does anyone know if I'd be the first player to clear 33/33 abilitites with no items or upgrades?
twin fog
Yea if you aren't playing aggressively and keep using retries you could run the timer to max like that guy did
toxic delta
Is that what Genwel 3 is called? I thought roche was fecto's theme
Roche Sphere is an actual thing and a different concept from Roche Limit
(also yeah it's just cutscene name thing, it's probably actually just like 'Core' or something)
toxic delta
Why not Lagrange Sphere?
also Lagrange Sphere is not a thing
twin fog
When are we getting an r/Kirby evaluation quiz where you're asked questions about roche lobes and sukhavati and japanese wordplay
arctic gale
whenever we need to do the r/kirby member purge to separate the real fans from the fakes
the users who get all the questions right are the ones that get banned
twin fog
r/Kirby quiz but all the questions about things that are actually good like touhou and umamusume and roman history
arctic gale
truuue
vagrant hound
You’re right, let’s purge this server
arctic gale
we'll start with you
arctic gale
ohh tenor is slacking where on earth is the gender well mr. meteor gifs
twin fog
Cringe kirby fandom not making kirby gifs
arctic gale
that guy is so ful of great gifs too
twin fog
On a Voyage of Loss To Know My Heart
twin fog
Leongar after Forgo starts playing ME music in his head 24/7
twin fog
It took me until just now to remember how the english title went
Onward to a Pain My Heart Knows Well moment
vagrant hound
I’m still wrapping my head around
That it’s real
I went to sleep and woke up hoping it was fake news
It wasn’t…
Leongar is a cat (lion)
Magolor is a cat
Yeah this make sense
twin fog
Fecto Forgo is the forbidden fruit
To this day I'm still like
Why is Fecto Forgo called BossOrigin in the files
Like you have BossLion, BossLeopard, BossArmadillo, BossLion, BossOrigin, BossChimera, BossChimeraPerfect
Why are you Origin what does that mean
arctic gale
Origin is the preferred web browser of Fecto Forgo clearly
twin fog
It's like
He's the origin of intelligence in beasts? He's the origin of the events of the plot? He's the origin of spatial transport technology that caused all of modern Kirby's plot points?? idfk
twin fog
I still find BossChimeraPerfectSoulCore so funny as well, excessively long internal name
sterile quartz
It's like
He's the origin of intelligence in beasts? He's the origin of the even...
THEY'RE they origin of the entire franchise's plot
sterile quartz
~~I still find BossChimeraPerfectSoulCore so funny as well, excessively long int...
what about Genwel-Meteonelfilis and Chaos-Elfilis EX
turbid nexus
vagrant hound
Morpho jumpscare
Okay Elfilin lol
最後には、恐ろしい何かが待ち構えている気がするんだ。カービィ…ボク、胸騒ぎが止まらないよ…。
Yeah, I wonder WHO
turbid nexus
Don’t worry it’s just good ol’ Meteonelfilis again and no one else!
twin fog
twin fog
https://fxtwitter.com/kirby_jp/status/1971411290351599787?s=46&t=KjgI8a61BxDiubZ...
Also they're really just gonna give us this awesome camera angle of the rest area huh
wise flame
I recorded something but won't show it but when I was using monster flame on morpho knight, bro just became this for the whole attack animation:
https://tenor.com/view/kinger-glow-digital-circus-the-amazing-digital-circus-gif-8340459209702077690
not sure if this was already known in the OG game tho-
twin fog
Morpho Knight don't stay still to have your soul taken by fire and especially Ice challenge:
Also why won't you show it lol
twin fog
Switch 2 not accessible RN also lazy
Ah IC
wise flame
Wait why did he dash pre-tornado attack
Also WOW it took me until the literal final boss of this run that I remembered that spamming attack was better in DPS than holding
twin fog
Ah bro was incandescent
Wait yea actually what the fuck was that weird movement
This is actually the craziest video I've ever seen wtf
wise flame
How the fuck is the upgrade so anomalous?!
jolly lichen
Wait why did he dash pre-tornado attack
morpho seems way bright than usual in vid...
twin fog
Ok so morpho wasn't bright before the teleport
I feel like whatever caused him to shift like that is also probably why he's just glowing the entire time
It probably interrupted the shader animation of him teleporting in
jolly lichen
ooh
wise flame
Speculation: A failsafe was activated when an attack was performed in an undesirable location
twin fog
His position makes way more sense where he originally appeared perfectly in the corner than when he like shifted into the wall
Wow I think that's the first time I've seen someone encounter the ZEX deadly sun tackle and not figure out to climb the crystals even though they're like 10x more stair-shaped than the Z version
obtuse berry
Wait why did he dash pre-tornado attack
looking at it, maybe it's the burn on morpho that somehow got it to trigger its escape teleport again
im sure the knights for ZEX could be a bit wacky atm with the new dodge tweaks they added
twin fog
oh yea true the burn dot triggering a second dodge makes a lot of sense
twin fog
Wait lmao
Is there a reflection of morpho knight sword in the roche sphere's eye when it explodes if you have the ability
Ok no that weird orange dot is just always there ig
sterile quartz
Wait why did he dash pre-tornado attack
morpho attempting to show its true godly form and kirby not being able to comprehend it
twin fog
Watched a chat member basically screw over a ZEX run by telling the player about morpho ghost attack lol
This is why whenever I do decide to chat and mention the attack I always make sure to emphasize that the guard charge attacks are cool but utterly fucking useless
The player just kept spamming morpho ghosts on chaos elfilis which is like
Basically turning the game's super weapon into slightly less shitty homing bomb
broken void
"streamer have u tried using the attack that fucking sucks? it might help you out!"
saw yukkuri using it to chase after giant genwel though lol it kinda worked there
jagged wind
i only use that attack to find out which is the real clone
twin fog
Morpho Ghosts at least have some niche uses
shrewd bridge
this is why i stick to hammer
toxic delta
only really good for bosses that it's hard to get close-up to (or don't want to risk it too much for)
shrewd bridge
why think when i can bonk
tacit saffron
so obscure attacks...
toxic delta
only really good for bosses that it's hard to get close-up to (or don't want to ...
like Sillydillo lol
tacit saffron
no need when you can enlarge your sword model
twin fog
Though attacking the giant genwel is probably better to just use the hellfire wind tornadoes from the full charge slash than using morpho ghosts
tacit saffron
broken void
can it reach forgo dedede when he's in the background
twin fog
Probably
toxic delta
idr, don't think so? but yeah he moves around a lot too anyway
lean grove
don't think it does, but i think it works for regular dedede
twin fog
Honestly have no idea I forgot what the speedrun does with forgo in the bg
I feel like they probably spam the hellfire wind tornadoes
lean grove
mainly based on experience with ranger having similar issues with hitting forgo dedede during that move
but not with world 4 dedede
broken void
I swore ranger could hit forgo - at least from what I could remember. But it's been a while I might be forgoring
twin fog
Ok no they do spam morpho ghosts on forgo ddd during the meteor attack
toxic delta
ah nice
broken void
Oh awesome
twin fog
Looking at it again I think they don't use tornadoes probably b/c it takes longer to charge?
Alternatively the tornadoes might have trouble touching dedede since the ledge he stands on is higher than the battlefield you stand on so the tornadoes might be getting caught on the ledge
idk
Actually oh they also just use moonshots in the buff run
wait if moonshots hit then maybe there isn't a higher up ledge
Then yea ig its jsut that tornadoes take too long to charge
toxic delta
yeah, don't like using them casually either partially because of that lol
the ghosts feel more spammable
twin fog
But yea spamming ghosts has niche uses but you should only do it when you can't reach the boss with anything normal
B/c its just low damage and you don't heal
toxic delta
yeah lol
twin fog
Especially with Elfilis being far away from the boss really doesn't give you a lot of advantages
A lot of their attacks really don't get easier to dodge from being far away
The refracting crystal laser is definitely easier at least but like
Just go up to it
Oh I mean the core btw
not elfilis 1
They were spamming ghosts on the core
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ok but like why the fucking shit did they put song of supplication into genwel's theme
insane
that parts always so insane to me
two GK excerpts on the final theme sure like Okay. its simultaenously giving both Welcome Your New Overlord and A World to Win like okay. its epic and cool and references the Starries sealing GK in a description
but Song of Supplication
is crazy
because the only other info other than Song of Supplication was on that music trakc is like
the eye orb's visual appearance
they will explain GK and Starries but not fucking Void istfg
twin fog
ok but like why the fucking shit did they put song of supplication into genwel's...
Giant man with swords for hands
Core that has void-like pattern and the eye-to-body ratio is really similar compared to other balls with eyes in the series
And probably the general size of the ball too
twin fog
If mistilteinn were good it would’ve turned its hands into swords
ripe bane
I wonder if the RTDLDX True Arena Another Dimension Bottom ball and Meteonelfilis's core are Voids from different dimensions (with the first one most likely being the one from Another Dimension).
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i mean the thing about Another Dimension is
in JP its Another Dimension Road
is ADR like an actual place or just a space between dimensions
sterile quartz
i only use that attack to find out which is the real clone
where? in chaos-elfilis?
can't you just look at the shadow
jagged wind
can't you just look at the shadow
ghost thing faster
ripe bane
in JP its Another Dimension Road
I thought the road was the place the Lor travelled through to get from Popstar to Halcandra and saying just Another Dimension or 異空間 referred to the whole dimension and the dimensions that have been stated to be in it.
twin fog
I thought the road was the place the Lor travelled through to get from Popstar t...
Another Dimension is the name of the dimension that has the Another Dimension Road that leads to different dimensions
ジャマハローア。
これは、未だ全てを読み解けぬ
とある書物に記されていたのだが、
もしかすると神のおられる器は、別の世界から
ある道を通って来られたものかもしれぬと…。
その道のある空間はかつて、こう呼ばれていた。
「アナザーディメンション」と。
Jamahelloah.
This is something depicted in a certain book that has yet to be fully deciphered,
but it perhaps suggests that the vessel in which god resides arrived from a different world
by passing through a certain road...
The dimension where this road exists was once known as such.
"Another Dimension".
https://x.com/Kirby_JP/status/1060003938173210624
X
ripe bane
Another Dimension is the name of the dimension that has the Another Dimension Ro...
Ok, thanks. I'm still wondering why the Jamba Heart was in Another Dimension and how the scientists sealed Hyness's clan despite Hyness's ability to summon Dimensional Rifts (as seen when he summoned Galacta Knight).
random tendon
Another Dimension is the name of the dimension that has the Another Dimension Road that leads to different dimensions
most sane kirby sentence
twin fog
They should rename Another Dimension to r/Kirby
r/Kirby is the name of the dimension that has the r/Kirby Road that leads to different bans
mossy crane
someone should make a mod of this methinks
stray relic
God cutter is terrible, my best run (far from my first) just died at morpho
It's like good against tropic woods and clawroline and that's about it
I swear it's never been this bad before, it does no damage unless you can crowd consistently and is terrible defensively
Am I just playing it wrong? All I know I can do with it is regular throws, final cutter, and charge which is usually less dps than regular and is mainly situationally good for defensive reasons
stray relic
Final cutter is its best dps but is omly consistently available in a few fights
stray relic
Buzzsaw cutter is fun tho
crimson hill
I don’t like the final cutter making it so you can’t attack after
mellow lantern
cutter is discusting in star allies
stray relic
Chakram cutter is also one of the middest tier 2s
crimson hill
Robobot cutter was insane
stray relic
There are a lot of games I like cutter in
mellow lantern
then again chakram cutter is also the first tier 2, then again volcano fire is also the first tier 2 and that's solid
stray relic
Volcano fire is literally just 90% as good as dragon fire
mellow lantern
also I find it weird how long it takes ice to evolve, like not until late into world 4
and you get the last evo pretty soon after that as well once you beat silly armadillo in world 5
stray relic
I am a firm believer in ice after learning the timing for the guard+spam move
It's my 2nd fastest time with a tier 1 and very close to hammer
Ice has spice
It's actually harder to do the maneuver with blizzard ice bc the spikes on the shield can get in the way
crimson hill
I am a firm believer in ice after learning the timing for the guard+spam move
It’s so dumb I love it
It’s also stronger on s2 edition because the damage for the exploit being tied to framerate
stray relic
It's so good against everything but like clawroline and a couple others require some skill to do well with it
wise flame
Fire and Ice are ridiculous
crimson hill
What’s fires tech?
wise flame
Mashing attack with fire is more optimal than holding
stray relic
I'll have to try that
wise flame
Pretty sure the burn effect works similarly to freeze
The only difference is that well, burn is damage over time... rather than a big hit
stray relic
The burn seems to max out really fast anyways though unless you're using tier 1 fire
mellow lantern
I like how both fire and ice are great in FL
just wish fire had a miniboss as well
stray relic
I don't think there is a fire minibpss anywhere near as iconic as Mr. Frosty
wise flame
2/4 midbosses utilize fire
mellow lantern
I don't think there is a fire minibpss anywhere near as iconic as Mr. Frosty
No but still would've been cool to see one return, or a new one
The only two existing ones are fire lion and flame galboros
would've been cool to see a new one
stray relic
Kind of surprised a version of galboros didn't show up
stray relic
The dlc should've had 4 or 6 new abilities too
Well probably not new ones, just classic ones
mellow lantern
wish it did, though at the same time they'd prob have to give each of them two evolutions
mellow lantern
beam should be in the next 3d kirby game and can be evolved into attacking beam and then evolved further into offensive beam
allows you to do very strong beam attacks
stray relic
Beam, stone, fighter, parasol
Spark
All seem easy to implement, I was surprised stone didn't make it to start with
Every beginner abuses stone
mellow lantern
maaaybe they thought it'd be awkward to use in 3d but it'd prob work good still
stray relic
It'd literally be exactly the samr
mellow lantern
maybe they couldn't think of how to evolve it
stray relic
Just take inspiration from all the different stone forms that have appeared previously
Like the anvil
mellow lantern
that would def hurt
have the final stone evo be fist stone where it's like that giant stone fist in mass attack
stray relic
It would've been easier to put in than some of the ones that got in
The main reason I can think of why they didn't is they got tired of people abusing it, but then just give it a timer like floating got
mellow lantern
yesh
I think also when it comes to ranged abilities, they have the problem of ranger existing, and I can get them wanting to make a new ability that's better to communicate that it's got massive range
stray relic
And they basically made ice's guard stone so that's probably not the issue
Yeah I think ranger is why beam isn't in
mellow lantern
and possibly spark too given it also has a major ranged attack
stray relic
Spark has a more interesting mechanic of its own tho, ranger literally just got beam's charge
mellow lantern
true spark does have the whole defensive range approach
stray relic
I wonder if being able to flick the stick more than just left-right is why spark didn't get in
Maybe you could charge it way too fast
mellow lantern
my guess as to fighter is because they wanted abilities to be more simple and fighter is mr complex
stray relic
Probably so, it needs a fleshed out moveset to work well
mellow lantern
hoping that the next 3d game does have more complex movesets so fighter can return
stray relic
And parasol is a bit duplicative to start with, especially so with a reduced moveset
Is there any sign of whether the next mainline kirby will be 2d or 3d, only had remakes and dlc since FL
mellow lantern
honestly no sign it could very well be either
stray relic
We're coming up on the 3-4 year release interval
Air riders might've set the timetable back tho
mellow lantern
Only hope of course is that the next 2D game is original and not a remake, even if I would like to see TDX and PR remade someday
stray relic
I'm sure there will be more mainline 2d releases
2D and 3D will probably run in parallel like mario
twin fog
So it'll take 16 years for us to get a new 2D game that's not a remake /s
stray relic
I'm not convinced it's realistically possible with cutter. I can't have more than 3 tomatoes left before the four warriors no matter how well I play.
That's just nowhere near good enough. You can't avoid taking some hits playing cutter.
With any other ability I can reasonably only use one tomato in the random segment
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Air riders might've set the timetable back tho
how
if there was anything that was gonna delay HAL from making Kirbly game it was SCW but even then it looks like a smaller team from HAL
and then Air Rider's is literally not even developped by HAL
stray relic
and then Air Rider's is literally not even developped by HAL
That I did not know
stray relic
I only saw the gameplay portions lol
turbid nexus
I played ZEX on my friend’s switch and holy shit the changed boss patterns are a huge jumpscare lmao
Mainly Phantom Sillydillo’s I actually took the most damage because of it
But fucking like
Morpho Knight
languid cobalt
Yeah morpho knight kicked my ass
shut pendant
morpho knight and galactal in the same club of "WHY DO THEY TAKE SO LITTLE DAMAGE"
turbid nexus
I played ZEX on my friend’s switch and holy shit the changed boss patterns are a...
Nvm he thinks Neichel is Susie’s mom I’m stealing his Switch 2
shut pendant
morpho knight and galactal in the same club of "WHY DO THEY TAKE SO LITTLE DAMAG...
and also "WHY DO THEY KEEP TELEPORTING AWAY RIGHT AS I'M ABOUT TO HIT THEM"
turbid nexus
Galactal’s a tank with abilities lmao😭
twin fog
Galactal looks annoying with anything other than Toy Hammer +⭐ tbh
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Galactal is the most HP sponge boss ive ever seen from the Kirby series
like yeah Void with the dynamic defense and Chaos Elfilis with just sheer number
but like Galactal as it is is like
THE most HP sponge boss ive ever seen from modern
vagrant hound
When I first fought Galactal, I was stressed how long it took to destroy them 💀
Like no health bar did not help
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i dont htink ive seen any other HP sponge bosses except for those specific sitautions like Final Boss or Kirby Clash
like ykwim every other boss has a very clear obvious amount of health and you can tell when it ends
vagrant hound
Galactal (its peak in stage but its mid in UCZEX)
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like its even like
defensive against Ice and Fire
its so...
its literally the Kirby version of Blissey or something
jolly lichen
its literally the Kirby version of Blissey or something
i'm really curious about HP value of that thing due to how it's so abnormal in many ways... 
twin fog
https://youtu.be/xoRl1yXjm-0?t=37
Mf making a speedrun look like regular gameplay
Actually how many bosses are shorter than the galactal fight
They took about 52 seconds to beat this Galactal and 55 seconds to beat the second one
Phantom Gorimondo tok 37 seconds
Phantom Tropic took 41 seconds
Phantom Clawroline took 44 seconds
Phantom Dedede took 45 seconds
Phantom Sillydillo took 54 seconds
Phantom Meta Knight took 56 seconds
Chat
Chat the Galactal fight takes longer than literally every boss before Phantom Forgo Dedede what the fuck
Or well takes the same amount of time as sillydillo and MK
obtuse berry
truly the real boss of SCW
but yeah no ability looks like it sucks against it
bc most bosses / mid bosses are usually vomiting out stars while galactal just stares at you and teleports
and spawns 3 stars after attacking
twin fog
World's most boring midboss (?) fight, asked to leave colosseum
vagrant hound
The lack of star dropping in any game makes me cry in despair
DMK and MK…
Like I get that you don’t get penalty or anything for not being able to beat the arena fast or slow but
random tendon
unrelated to current convo but I need to stop procastinating the SCW interview translation, please bully me to do it this weekend /lh
obtuse berry
which screws with abilities like fire, ice (in normal circumstances), or drill
magic eagle
twin fog
What is the luck part
Getting a bunch of enemies in an inhale?
trim sail
What is the luck part
Getting a bunch of enemies in an inhale?
Almost losing the ability, she inhales it last second
twin fog
No she doesn't?
You lose control of the game the moment the boss dies which was the moment she spat the star bullet where are you seeing a second inhale after that
trim sail
She grabs it right before he dies then
I don't know how given she isn't even facing the copy ability
I was in the VC when it happened
twin fog
Why did you go down the route 'she wasn't facing the copy ability but she somehow grabbed it' instead of just 'she didn't grab it'
random tendon
I think the game is just set so that if you defeat a boss while the ability item is around you get the ability there
I felt I've heard of this before
twin fog
It is yea
trim sail
She clearly did grab it because she kept the ability afterwards
random tendon
underrated QoL I always forget about
twin fog
The developers had Planet Robobot trauma
Not a problem in SA since Morpho Knight and Void termina 2 are the only bosses in the entire arena that end with a cutscene that isn't the final fight
languid cobalt
Also 2 games in a row where a knight is the 3rd
twin fog
SCW is very Magolor Epilogue coded structurally after all
Extra modes added onto an existing game with a very final-boss coded final boss compared to a regular extra mode final boss
hybrid bolt
Guess why I’m fine with it
twin fog
Meanwhile HiAD's 3 mage sisters is a lot less final boss coded and its the only one where they also added a harder variation of the existing knight fight
hybrid bolt
Magolor Epilogue was shorter than I would have liked at first but then upon a replay I just loved it more
random tendon
SCW is very Magolor Epilogue coded structurally after all
Extra modes added onto...
this is very funny I am currently translating the part of the SCW interview that kuma compares it with epilogue and says it's different, though in the sense that epilogue is post-game
hybrid bolt
Makes sense
trim sail
Rewatched the footage like 5 times now I see that she didn't inhale it at all
random tendon
kumazaki when funny waiwai talking about magoland
ワイワイ4人で遊べるゲームとして「マホロアランド」moment
anyway that's enough kumazaki japanese for my tired brain
shrewd oracle
Yeah no ability is really dull against galactal
lean grove
galactal made me give up my no ability run lol
really just made me wish they made it fully a midboss instead
mellow lantern
I like how angry king dedede is in forgotten land