Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)

[lean grove]

i am still putting on my tinfoil

[rustic crow]

Can't spell Alivel without
E
V
I
L😈😈😈

[spiral void]

music.

[toxic delta]

maybe they are the actual note colors then? hmm

[twin fog]

Ando was light blue and ishikawa was pink in FL

So the question is just who's the last fucker

[spiral void]

oh nice

the evil & intimidating purple note:

[vagrant hound]

the the the

the new person maybe

the secret person

[twin fog]

the funny new hire?

[vagrant hound]

theres a chance

but than we already have purple...

[tardy mortar]

there's only one way to check for sure

okay that purple note isn't Sakai

[twin fog]

It definitely doesn't sound sakai

[tardy mortar]

(I'm checking Dream Buffet rn)

[arctic gale]

Mysterious new composer...

[tardy mortar]

yep

new composer

[spiral void]

How Frightening

[tardy mortar]

Sakai's purple is actually a lot more light

it's not deep purple

[twin fog]

And it's not ikegami shade?

[tardy mortar]

Ikegami is more blue

[twin fog]

zamn

[tardy mortar]

...actually navy blue

Wikirby got it wrong

[spiral void]

mfw indigo

[tardy mortar]

actually indigo is... fine?

I thought it might a bit more purple ish

[toxic delta]

anyone got pics of the Dream Buffet note colors?

[tardy mortar]

but I rechecked

...I should have done that actually lol

the problem though

I have absolutely not unlocked everything

but I'll do my best to have all 7 at least

...well I have all 8 (white included)

[vagrant hound]

Its funny how they were like "yeah ishikawa is red" and the note looks more like pink

[tardy mortar]

gimme a moment

[shadow kindle]

These songs are FIRE 🔥

[spiral void]

definitely more navy & lavender lol

[tardy mortar]

well when I datamined the colors... I only gave the colors they internally named them for

[robust tundra]

gosh the remixes in the new tweet are godly...

[lean grove]

i will admit i'm surprised ishikawa did an alivel mall remix

mostly because i rarely see him do remixes of songs like that

ando doing the first stage though is kinda just completely expected and i'm pretty sure his style is what was used to influence the style of all the other stage themes going forward

[wide peak]

i love the battle theme

it's so clean

[high widget]

didnt he do Psychomeddler

[lean grove]

no that was ando

[vagrant hound]

ando did psychomeddler yeah

[tardy mortar]

Actually

I wonder if that purple composer did Waveflow Waters lol

[vagrant hound]

Random note, I always love when ando did ishikawa music and ishikawa did ando music

[high widget]

Purple Composer is giving me Shimooka vibes

[tardy mortar]

because at this point that would explain his rock influence lol

oh yeah

but that guy is green so lol

[high widget]

I seeeeeeeeeeeeeee

someone said purple note is sakai

is that true

[tardy mortar]

no

Sakai is more lavender

I checked, see above with my screenshots

no one has deep purple

it's a new composer we haven't heard yet

[vagrant hound]

It's actually Magolor's cloth

he is the composer

[tardy mortar]

actually

wait

IT IS SAKAI who did the Alivel Mall remix

That's the exact same color as Dream Buffet

[high widget]

inchrestienting

[olive coral]

PEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAK

[tardy mortar]

so in order

Ando, Sakai and ???

[high widget]

whoever this new purple composer is, I am loving their rock vibes

[olive coral]

i need everyone to hop on beast battle of the meteors please.............................

[tardy mortar]

so this is the first mainline game from Sakai in a long time

[high widget]

when was even the last time lol

[tardy mortar]

Squeak Squad

[high widget]

What

[tardy mortar]

yes

[twin fog]

I need more funny names like The Lost Children's Alivel Mall

[high widget]

what did he make there

[twin fog]

It's so peak like wtf

[tardy mortar]

no idea lol

but he's credited there

[high widget]

huh

[robust tundra]

wait the alivel mall remix is from shogo sakai???

[tardy mortar]

yes

100%

[high widget]

Storm Area Squeak Squad maybe?

[tardy mortar]

It's his color

[robust tundra]

that explains why the guitars and bass felt so mother 3-ish omg

[tardy mortar]

I honestly did right in taking screenshots of Dream Buffet lol

[high widget]

can you send me the video link im trying to copy it but it wont let me

[tardy mortar]

because else I would have confused Ishikawa and Sakai

[twin fog]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1357065850951041247/1407941185665896549/19583634374713098674.mp4

When copying a link from a video right click the download button specifically

[vagrant hound]

you can also just save from the tweet on discord

[high widget]

Ohhhh

[tardy mortar]

Anyway I might be wrong but I am seriously thinking Waveflow Waters from Air Riders might be purple composer

[wise flame]

Oop the game file size estimate has changed slightly

10.8 GB

[toxic delta]

damn this late
though it's only slightly less anyway

but nice to see

[wise flame]

(IDK when the change has occured or if anyone else had pointed this out before)

[toxic delta]

didn't see it when I was checking stuff recently I think

[wise flame]

We're in the endgame

[lean grove]

huh
yeah it sounds more like sakai than ishikawa lol

so i wasn't crazy for thinking this didn't seem like an ishikawa song at all

[sterile quartz]

ucz EX battle theme leak ||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKywH9Nf7YE|| /j

[lean grove]

honestly crazy how everyone was expecting if sakai was freelance to work on air riders

completely throws everyone a curveball with this lol

[toxic delta]

is crazy if it's actually Sakai

[lean grove]

wonder if this means ohara is here too

[toxic delta]

it's been so long since he's been involved with main series

and even then he was never that involved

[lean grove]

yeah listening to this more and more i see this totally being sakai

it feels like something i could hear alongside rainbow curse tracks lol

[toxic delta]

anyway updated to test more things myself
Time Crash exploit is not patched either

[twin fog]

The only other thing I can think of that they might've cared about besides HSJ would've been the retry star glitch

[toxic delta]

has anyone tested that yet

[twin fog]

I never even bothered to learn how it works tbh

[toxic delta]

I don't want to because I don't wanna fuck with my file at all

(and don't wanna play through again to do it on new one)

[vagrant hound]

I forgot how to do it tbh

[lean grove]

people can still do the glitched meta knight cup on the new update right

[toxic delta]

yes

[vagrant hound]

literally spent 30 second looking for forgotten land icon

😭😭😭

[toxic delta]

LOL I see preload is out, nice

pretty icon

[tacit saffron]

green and blue

[tardy mortar]

I don't have the preload yet, the preorder still isn't done for some reason

I'll wait until the day has passed I guess

[wise flame]

Oh no...

It hasn't hit me yet

Also wow this is gonna haunt me for the next 7 days won't it??

Anyways I forgot my upgrade-less file still had a hyper-drugged Kirby

Gonna sober him up in Downtown Grassland before SCW starts at any moment

...Oh that's 15 minutes worth of speedboost on Kirby

[solar birch]

It's probably Ogasawara

[lean grove]

no ogasawara has yellow notes

[solar birch]

Ah

[lean grove]

also hasn't been doing too much music lately

they've kinda being focusing on the sfx parts of game development

though the less music could be partially because of music fest perhaps

but either way the purple notes indicates its not him

[solar birch]

Either way with him being sound director for the whole game I'm honestly forever grateful to him for injecting more rock/guitar into the Kirby soundscape

[lean grove]

i think on the HAL blog post it said they had a new person join the sound team

[tardy mortar]

yep

[toxic delta]

yeah, 'K'

[tardy mortar]

it might be that person

[vagrant hound]

k for magolor

I mean kirby

😭

oh my god

[solar birch]

Super promising already

[lean grove]

now that we have heard sakai i do wonder if Ohara has any tracks because whatever sakai works on ohara tends to also join

[solar birch]

Honestly the soundtrack is in good hands when the time comes for the classic duo to retire

[twin fog]

Holy shit K for Kitasan Black

[tardy mortar]

for real though when people go freelance it doesn't mean they're gone

[solar birch]

Aye, Keiki Kobayashi still does Ace Combat stuff for example

[lean grove]

i mean it still is extremely unexpected because i would have never thought sakai would join for a mainline game

i suppose ishikawa did retire but like

[vagrant hound]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-kitasan-black-kitasan-satono-diamond-dia-gif-5888843041862096466

[twin fog]

I blame air riders
They must've said might as well or some shit idk

[lean grove]

i wouldn't have thought they would go all the way to bring Sakai on

because i assume HAL needs to approach Sakai rather than the other way around

i dunno how these contracts work

[twin fog]

well he was already there for dream buffet too ig

[tacit saffron]

well he left in 2023 the year after FL so I wonder

what's the timeline currently

[lean grove]

if i remember correctly he started a youtube channel where he did some music tutorials

[tacit saffron]

he did

as part of being a freelancer

[twin fog]

https://tenor.com/view/kitasan-black-kitasan-umamusume-uma-musume-pretty-derby-and-heres-the-yapper-gif-12895719817624764806

[tacit saffron]

such as how long was this planned out

because music is "usually" near the final stage of development right?

if it is Sakai then I wonder how much involvement he had for SCW, will find out for sure when it happens yet still though

[toxic delta]

just checked, yeah it does lol

[wise flame]

So what actually changed?!

[toxic delta]

probably nothing noticeable at least

didn't even change the Past Adventures book smh

[wise flame]

Nintendo what are the "issues" that were addressed?!

Yeah must be minor

[tacit saffron]

similar to other updates that add Switch 2 support

though this isn't like Splatoon 3

[toxic delta]

not really, those had other fixes (which this claims to have too)

[tacit saffron]

well nothing surface level so far

stuff you would have to go out of your way to know what changed

[coral yoke]

filesize look rather huge

[toxic delta]

Switch 2 games (especially Switch 2 Editions) be like that

[lean grove]

mainly because of higher resolution textures

those take up huge amounts of space even with compression

[toxic delta]

yeah, possibly models too

and SCW is adding a lot

stages, new enemy variants, mouthfuls, figures...

[lean grove]

models don't take up that much space i think

like its not an insignificant amount of data but the textures of that model will still often be the bulk of it

[wide peak]

btw the newest version didn't actually fix any glitches

all of them still work they only added a switch 2 edition sign on the menu saying it'll be out next week

i'm scared about star crossed world like how many glitches will this patch

[toxic delta]

and this rate wonder if they patched any there either (other than some probably being harder to do) lol
either way doesn't matter too much anymore, base game has stuff still afterall

[wide peak]

i'm expecting some of the more well known glitches like hammer super jump to be patched

[toxic delta]

if you're buying Upgrade Pass anyway, you can always unload it pretty sure (Switch 2 Editions work like how DLC does I think, and you can unload those now too)

if you have Switch 1 and Switch 2 and buy the physical version, it changes depending on the system so should be good there too

[tardy mortar]

I feel like it's only fixed if you play on the upgraded version, and not the Switch 1 version

[devout surge]

https://tenor.com/view/can-you-believe-guys-christmas-one-week-until-christmas-im-so-thriled-about-this-information-christmas-christmas-meme-gif-24202287

[wide peak]

i feel like it'll work as well on switch 2 edition since it's mostly a port with higher quality graphics

[tardy mortar]

we know it doesn't

people tried

unless they really failed at it

but people did try when there were demos around

[twin fog]

Inb4 they unpatched the glitch /s

[tardy mortar]

I just think there's just two versions of the game

and in one of them they decided to fix it

[wide peak]

wasn't the demos on the star crossed world version and not the base switch 2 version

[tardy mortar]

there is no base Switch 2 version, Star Crossed World is just part of it

you don't select Star Crossed World in some menu

it's just part of the game seamlessly

you can access SCW levels starting from finishing the first world

and they go alongside the original levels in the world map

[wide peak]

interesting i thought you could have upgraded to switch 2 edition without having to buy the 20 bucks upgrade pack which includes the dlc as well

guess not

[wide peak]

true!!!

we're back > it's over > we're back (again) > it's over (again)

[tardy mortar]

ah nope

if you don't pay for it, you will not get 60 FPS

it's all or nothing

I can sorta get the confusion since some games do get upgrades for free

but here's a way to tell the difference: those games do not really get graphical upgrades that much

it's just higher resolution and higher framerate, some limited functionality, and that's it

those that are paid actually get something more to it

even Zelda is not just higher res

that's what I would say but I actually think the Mario Party upgrade is a scam

that upgrade is just nonsense

but yeah when it's paid, you will not get any free upgrades whatsoever for the base game

that game will still be the Switch 1 version no matter what if you don't pay up

[wide peak]

forgotten land has the best upgrade pack rn on top of getting higher res textures, more fps and general polish you also get a new full campaign

but yeah i got it really confused cuz some games i could have upgraded to switch 2 edition for free and for some i had to buy the upgrade pack to update

[olive coral]

you got it already??? >:0

[tardy mortar]

well to make it simpler: if an upgrade pack exists at all on the eShop, it's just not free

[wide peak]

that's very simplified

i'm very excited 1 more week to go

[tardy mortar]

well yeah, but at least it's clearer

if there's an upgrade pack on the eShop, you can just assume there's no free upgrade, even seperately

[wide peak]

yeh

i guess you learn something new everyday

[vital lodge]

Guys my Forgotten Land updated to 1.1.0

It's a 126 MB patch

[torn vapor]

https://x.com/Kirby_JP/status/1958363437471309867?t=cc0UbpHCtEXxugZNnKtxsg&s=19

星のカービィ (@Kirby_JP)

流星の影響で、この世界の音楽も変わっちゃったみたいだよ！
これは「ネイチェル草原」で流れる「はじまりの流星群」と「迷子のアライブルモール」。なんだかいつもと違う雰囲気だね！
最後の「流星のビーストバトル」は、結晶化した敵たちとの激しい...

X · Aug 21, 2025, 3:00 AM

ITS JUST A MID BOSS THEME

[spark turtle]

This thing isn't going to be playable on s1 is it?

[vital lodge]

Guys the Alivel Mall Starry Remix is so, so good...I'm going crazy over it

[spark turtle]

Thought I saw someone get another games s2 content on the s1 by inserting the game

[lean grove]

its through gameshare i believe

[mossy crane]

elfilin casually confirming music in the Kirby universe is diegetic

[vital lodge]

I can hear some "Egg Engines" like music in that Mall remix...

[torn vapor]

Why is the mid boss theme rlly good

Its not even for the main bosses

[tardy mortar]

no

You're probably thinking of some games' GameShare or something, but that's not always a thing

[random tendon]

AM I NOT COPIUM

IS THAT ISHIKAWA PLEASE

[tardy mortar]

nope

The music in that tweet is actually Ando, Sakai and a new person at HAL

which is kind of insane to finally have Sakai working on a mainline game after so long

and I checked the colors to make sure

I took screenshots from Dream Buffet

[vital lodge]

Preloading for the Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition has started in my region. Currently downloading :)

[random tendon]

life is cruel

jk that's actually interesting

[lean grove]

yeah its crazy

[tardy mortar]

yep I got the preload now

[lean grove]

but its definitely sakai's style

[tardy mortar]

Purple guy is unknown at the moment but we'll know in a week

or maybe less

[random tendon]

I just woke up so

[vital lodge]

it's definitely a beefy update, the hype is real

[random tendon]

crazy week

how will I survive

[tardy mortar]

you will

Bandee can survive

[mossy crane]

I heard his name was william

[sand patrol]

So is that a real electric guitar is the battle song?

Sounds like it

[tardy mortar]

it's possible to fake that these days

but it's not unlikely to be real

[random tendon]

I'm more surprised the midboss theme isn't ogasawara, but at the same time it didn't feel like it to me

I can see it being that new K person

[mossy crane]

do we have any instances of live performed Kirby music in any game

[torn vapor]

Tbh most kirby osts nowadays use real instruments

[tardy mortar]

Ogasawara seemed like he could have done it

but I guess there is now someone at HAL who's way more into rock

[torn vapor]

If toby fox gets into scw or air riders

Ill draw whatever you guys want

Im serious

[sand patrol]

Toby fox has become composer bigfoot

Today's Toby fix sighting

[tardy mortar]

the thing about this

I'm just gonna repeat what I said even if it's overlapping channels but

I feel like Waveflow Waters from Air Riders could be that purple composer

[random tendon]

OH

[torn vapor]

Its just a sonic composer under a alias

[tardy mortar]

That guy is already showing kind of promise in regards to electric guitar use in SCW

he may just as well do it for Air Riders too lol

Heck HAL might pull a Shimooka moment

where that guy is just doing a lot lol

like it's just so funny how a large amount of music in FL is just Shimooka

there's a lot of reuse from others tbh, but still

the job fell on him lol

The thing about listening to the midboss theme

the drums is also a highlight

not just electric guitar

[torn vapor]

If the mid boss theme sounds like that

Imagine the final boss theme

[tardy mortar]

well do we have to imagine it

when Roche Limit exists

[torn vapor]

No i mean

Since the mid boss theme is alot more insane than the base games mid boss theme

Imagine the final boss theme

Being more insane than roche limit

[random tendon]

need to relisten later but if so, interesting

ogasawara 2

[tardy mortar]

honestly yeah

ogasawara 2

now will it be death again

[spark turtle]

When did Sakai freelance again

[random tendon]

shortly after dream buffet iirc

[spark turtle]

So I guess he's still working with them after that, class

[random tendon]

the only other possibility is that this was made shortly after the completion of FL but in a way I doubt it, in particular with the new composer

if anything I guess sakai went freelance for more flexibility + he's getting old but still up to work with HAL

[sand patrol]

Kirby channels theory

[random tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-charlie-day-crazy-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-qanon-gif-23738584

[tacit saffron]

thing is so was Dream Buffet

keep it in private during the 30th anniversary...

[vital lodge]

Game preloaded. Total size: 16.6 GB

[lean grove]

real talk somehow this one off tweet dumped more info than the actual overview trailer a few weeks ago

[sudden mirage]

🫵 new music

[sonic quail]

With the original?

[vital lodge]

yes. Full size of the entire Switch 2 Edition

[tepid burrow]

ITS REDEEMABLE GUYS

[gleaming stream]

It’s beautiful

[tepid burrow]

No spoilers yet!

[wise flame]

Yeah lemme go check-

Huh, not here yet...

[long locust]

Modders and homebrew people on their way to datamine everything

I presume this is the reason why the full Forgotten Land soundtrack isn't quite on Nintendo Music yet
I'd sense a full release including the Switch 2 version

[somber temple]

Uh, no

Switch 2 has a LOT of security tucked into it

It could result in your console getting bricked or your Nintendo Account getting banned. It's a lot more sophisticated than was the Switch

So right now it is nigh impossible to actually mod one and datamine the game

[random tendon]

yes

they haven't even datamined the MKW soundtrack

[spiral void]

so really the only chance of spoilers are people speedrunning to end?

[random tendon]

yeah

and people who get the game before like oceania/asia

you can't datamine stuff before release anyway, never been possible, there is encryption

when stuff like that happens it's when people get access to physical copies

and dump the game

digital stuff is never available before release

[native reef]

CHAT!
IT’S GETTING REAL NOW.

[long locust]

Well that's good to know
I do question how on earth some streamers managed to get stuff like EoW and Brothership early and played on the Switch 1 emulators back in the day (thankfully karma catches up on them)

[random tendon]

I explained here

[random tendon]

oh separate music posts

[olive coral]

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYYINGGG

[wide peak]

this is due to switch 2 being not hacked yet once it's hacked people will start getting the soundtracks

[high widget]

why are you wendy's kirby

[random tendon]

not just a matter of being hacked, also a matter of people being able to extract the files from the game and convert them

[tardy mortar]

To be honest I do expect the files to be essentially the same formats

it doesn't sound like Switch 2 is very different from Switch 1 in that regard

but when it comes to hacking, yeah, the system's security is a lot more of a beast

Nvidia actually went over it in a presentation, talking about how it works

and it's a whole lot more advanced and more compartimentalized

where if some security breaks, it still wouldn't compromise the entire system

[lean grove]

I wonder since we're getting at least two new arrangers I wonder if the Deedly Dees next upgrade is just giving them more members

[tardy mortar]

to give an idea though: the Switch 1 security is still good because you still basically cannot hack the system outside of one specific way to do it

[random tendon]

this is fair but sometimes there are some differences, in particular since they mentioned switch 1 to switch 2 like games wasn't super 1:1

and they had to half emulate

[tardy mortar]

The half emulation is basically on the GPU side of things

[random tendon]

ah

[tardy mortar]

we actually know how it works because you can still kinda compromise a Switch 1 game

but it's not enough to compromise the system with

and hackers have been looking at how the backward compatibility works

and it sums up as this:
Switch 2 OS is basically the same as Switch 1 and all big differences are handled with a layer between the game and the OS so it adapts to the differences

the big difference is the GPU because it's outright incompatible with each other (the shaders)

so yes, it's not 1:1, but it's not that different

this is why Switch 1 & 2 shares OS updates in sync now

it's because it's the same OS, for the first time in a successor console

it can potentially be possible to compromise a Switch 2 Edition game

but what I am saying essentially comes down to this: It requires a hacker to look at the game specifically and test the differences

possibly bruteforce a bit, but it'll still be not enough to compromise the system, but it might be possible to get the files like that

but as I said, requires a specialist to do it

[vital lodge]

is there a video or website about this presentation? I'm very interested in this topic

[tardy mortar]

I forgot where it was

sorry

I know there is a presentation about it

[vital lodge]

nah, it's okay

[tardy mortar]

but finding that again would be a chore for me

anyway: all that to say, no one is going to extract the files unless there's a hacker with the means who's also a Kirby fan lol

and by hacker I mean actually doing the work of figuring out an entrypoint from inside the game and not just essentially stealing the work of others like I did for Switch datamining all the time lol

(I exaggerate I just mean using premade tools)

in any case, one final thing regarding Switch 2 hacking: Until you read the words "unsigned code execution" or "kernel-level code execution" or something like that, any other news regarding Switch 2 hacking should be ignored.

do not trust anyone about Switch 2 hacking reporting until you read these words

because running exploits at all on Switch 2 is actually not surprising, it was always possible even with the best security in the world, but it's not everything

And since most people do not really understand how hacking works, any sort of "progress" can look like it's a big step when it actually isn't

[twin fog]

Begging to god dumping happens within my lifetime

[tardy mortar]

To be honest once quantum computers starts to become accessible and bigger, security will become a major concern

you always see stories about how bruteforcing can take like millions of years?

[twin fog]

I had no idea quantum computers were a thing that was still happening, I thought it basically died when AI proved to be the next big technology instead of quantum computing lol

[tardy mortar]

nah it's very much still a thing that has legitimate uses

gotta note: quantum computers are not necessarily "faster"

I don't think it will ever be a thing for our households, it's really useless for that

but if we're getting in the days where they can become powerful enough and for hackers to be able to use them for hacking purposes, and that the world hasn't transitioned to a different security system

oh boy

it'll be extremely chaotic

because these things can break encryption

[twin fog]

zamn

[tardy mortar]

there are studies about that

These things can essentially figure out every single encryption key in very little time

but, these things are not powerful enough to do it for most real world uses

there are stuff in the works specifically to make quantum computers unable to deal with it

[random tendon]

oh right quantum computing

is a bit scary

[tardy mortar]

so as long as a transition is being done, it should be okay

To be honest I still don't understand it very well, it's so extremely outside of my understanding of software

[random tendon]

quantum computing is what AI pretends it is

[tardy mortar]

but seeing studies about breaking encryption with them, and succeeding at it

is enough to make me go "oh fuck"

[random tendon]

yup

[tardy mortar]

so there might be a world where the Switch 2 is hackable just by bruteforce

where you can just get everything

[spiral void]

oh damn

[tardy mortar]

but we're currently extremely far from that

[random tendon]

yeah by that time it won't be switch 2 lol

well at least not accessible to a regular person

[tardy mortar]

I don't think it will ever be accessible to a regular person

it's too specific and not very useful to the layman

unless somehow quantum computing becomes so cheap and small enough to beat the old silicon chips

which I just do not see happening

at least not in our lifetime imo

but yeah if there's no transition to newer security systems, hackers with access to powerful enough quantum computing, they can outright take over the world and that's no exaggeration

it would be extremely chaotic, but researchers have already figured out ways to beat quantum computing at its own game

but just about anything that cannot transition its security system, it'll be fucked

anyway what is this topic that's almost Haltmann Works Co. levels of chaos

that's not Kirby

lel

[lean grove]

h

would be funny if those band members were starries

[gleaming stream]

What instrument would they play

[lean grove]

we have a keytar, guitar, keyboard, and drums right
probably a trumpet

or some other horns

[olive coral]

lemme know when the leaks start leaking

[wise flame]

Oop, pre-load just dropped

Oh no I have to live with that updated icon for a whole week

I hate this

[tepid burrow]

Same

[shadow kindle]

I'll probably buy the upgrade pack on the day it launches

[thorny fulcrum]

Just like with Splatoon 3 😭

[rocky berry]

#adorable-announcements message

[tulip coral]

zlaker#0 - #adorable-announcements

<@&1264008256578129961>

Hello everyone. I wanted to take this opportunity to relay the Star-Crossed World spoiler policy. This spoiler policy only applies to Star-Crossed World and not the base game of Forgotten Land. This spoiler policy begins <t:1756303200:f>.

• You are free to discuss the DLC in #1357065850951041247 without tags up until Winter Horns for the first 2 weeks of the spoiler policy. Anything beyond must go into a spoiler thread (which we will make soon) where you required to tag and mark your spoilers. An example of this would be: Final Boss ||Dale is the final boss||. This part of the spoiler policy will last up until <t:1757563200:f>.

• After the first two weeks are up, you are allowed to discuss all of the DLC in #1357065850951041247, including the final boss. If there is more to the DLC after the final boss then it must be discussed in the spoiler thread. We'll most likely update this part of the spoiler policy when some of the modteam has beaten the DLC. This part of the policy will last up until <t:1758772800:f>.

• Ultimate Cup Z EX must be tagged and marked and can only be discussed in the spoiler thread.

• As always, not following the spoiler policy will lead to a strike or a ban. If you see someone post spoilers outside the correct threads, then please ping the <@&1407050560556765224> and not the <@&451057945044582400> role. The same applies for reports. Do not use @shadow dust for reporting people breaking the spoiler policy.

• One last thing I want to mention is that if you want to share artwork or other media pertaining to the DLC then post it in the correct thread by following the spoiler policy. That means if you want to post an artwork of the final boss during the first 2 weeks of the spoiler policy, then you do it in the spoiler thread. Artwork of spoilery content is not allowed in #canvas-curse or anywhere else.

After <t:1758772800:f> everything will be fair game and people can discuss the DLC freely in the server. If you have any questions regarding the spoiler policy, feel free to ask any of the moderators.

Thank you reading and we hope you all enjoy revisiting Kirby and the Forgotten Land!

https://tenor.com/view/spring-mouth-kirby-kirby-elfilin-starry-kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-gif-8524821624655263627

Quoted by zlaker#0 • [82109680486199296] · Aug 21, 2025, 5:49 PM

[thorny fulcrum]

WAIT WHAT

[random tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-strange-we-are-in-the-endgame-now-just-saying-gif-24286272

[thorny fulcrum]

THE GAME IS GONNA RELEASE ON THE 27TH?!

[tepid burrow]

Spoiler Poilcy Jumpscare

[random tendon]

28th

[thorny fulcrum]

But why does it start on the 27th

[random tendon]

if that shows for you as 27th that's due to timezones

[rocky berry]

timezones

i hate them too

[random tendon]

but it releases first in australia

[bleak kiln]

Sucks I won’t be able to play the dlc

[thorny fulcrum]

Ohhhhh ok

[rocky berry]

nooooo

[shadow kindle]

I'm so hyped and excited

[rocky berry]

actually idk if ill play either

[thorny fulcrum]

So it’ll still probably release at midnight for me

[shadow kindle]

I'm going to see spoilers before I play

[rocky berry]

i have a surgery the day of or before

[bleak kiln]

Because isn’t it switch 2 locked?

[tepid burrow]

Has someone already got inside the DLC?!

[rocky berry]

it is

[rocky berry]

no lol

[random tendon]

if you are from the americas then it will be up at midnight ET

[bleak kiln]

Yeah that sucks

[rocky berry]

unless press has it and are playing atm

[tepid burrow]

Oh

[rocky berry]

but otherwise nop

[random tendon]

we just announce spoiler policies in advance

[bleak kiln]

Why is a dlc locked behind a console-

I’ve just found the idea stupid

[random tendon]

why is a game locked behind a console

[rocky berry]

cuz nintendo wants ur money

[random tendon]

same principle

[rocky berry]

and hal does too

[late girder]

i can tolerate that hal wants my money, but god FORBID nintendo wants my money. its like they work together or something...

[bleak kiln]

Well this game is now on two consoles, but I hate how I have the switch one version and would happily pay for the dlc, but can’t because it’s locked behind the next gen console

[tepid burrow]

It’s close…

[vagrant hound]

Gonna be one of the first people to play the game as Japan Timezone

[bleak kiln]

Most people still have switch one

[random tendon]

forgotten land is on both consoles, forgotten land + SCW is not

it's like a remake

[rocky berry]

tbh i get ur complaint

but it is a common practice

[bleak kiln]

Fair

[rocky berry]

same thing happened with ff7 on ps4 -> ps5

[bleak kiln]

Sony has been doing that for years

[random tendon]

yeah they could have just rereleased- yup

[bleak kiln]

(Stuck with a ps4)

[rocky berry]

u could only play the yuffie dlc on ps5 until it was released on pc and other consoles

[random tendon]

that is why I suggest treating this as a new game

[bleak kiln]

Alr

[twin fog]

This is why they should've released Magolor Epilogue as DLC for the Wii version too

[random tendon]

TRUE

[bleak kiln]

But yeah they would’ve made more money if they released the dlc on the normal switch as well though

[rocky berry]

yea but they wanna sell switch 2s tho lol

[random tendon]

well not really because they are also making money on switch 2 sales

[vagrant hound]

I would take it still

[rocky berry]

i dont think nintendo is worrying about switch 1 sales atp

[vagrant hound]

RTDL HD

[random tendon]

plus it's pretty obvious this DLC only exists as switch 2 marketing

[rocky berry]

its already at 150+ or something

they want ppl to buy switch 2s

easy way of forcing ppl in doing so is exclusives

[random tendon]

plus again this is 3 years after FL

there will be new people playing FL

due to the DLC

[bleak kiln]

Yeah

[rocky berry]

im curious how much of a sales boost the game will get

[random tendon]

and if someone has a switch 2 and not 1 they don't have many new games and may as well grab kirby

[rocky berry]

cuz rn its at something around 7.5 mill i think

[random tendon]

releasing this as DLC for switch 1 means you are in competition with all switch 1 games and DLC

[bleak kiln]

I saw speculation that the reason this dlc got released this late was due to it being in development in 2022 or something

[thorny fulcrum]

LETS GO I GET IT AN HOUR EARLY

[random tendon]

switch 2 you have less switch 2 exclusives right now so less competition

[bleak kiln]

Don’t quote me on this, it’s just speculation that I’ve heard

[random tendon]

that sentence on itself feels contradictory

[bleak kiln]

How so if I may ask?

[random tendon]

2022 is not late

we are in 2025

if it was developed in 2022 why didn't it release sooner

this is DLC not a full new game

[bleak kiln]

The speculation part was because Nintendo said for projects at this time to start working on making the games switch 2 stuff

[random tendon]

either way we know HAL after forgotten land development ended they went to return to dream land deluxe full time

[bleak kiln]

The only proof to this I believe is the DK bananza thing

[random tendon]

I'm confused then

[bleak kiln]

I see

[bleak kiln]

Atp so am I

[random tendon]

I mean at this sentence still

[turbid nexus]

Thought it leaked for a second and nearly died😭

[random tendon]

I still don't understand what it is trying to say

[turbid nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/whew-spongebob-thank-god-that-was-close-damn-gif-10882958

[vagrant hound]

Yeah Dale is final boss, astronomer waddle dee is magolor

[tepid burrow]

Same

[tepid burrow]

Where did this come from??

[bleak kiln]

I was trying to say that I saw speculation on youtube that the reason forgotten land got this dlc 3 years after release was because they were working on it when Nintendo was starting on switch 2 stuff, so Nintendo pushed these projects back for switch 2’s release

[vagrant hound]

Future me

[random tendon]

ah I think I get it. so the theory is that this started as switch 1 DLC?

[bleak kiln]

Yes

[random tendon]

because personally I highly doubt that

[tepid burrow]

Comet???

[random tendon]

as we saw in the music post today for example it looks like we have new composers and thus a different team

when star allies updates was in development the team was mostly the same

I think this indicates there's a gap + they were two separate projects

[bleak kiln]

Ohhhh I see

[gleaming stream]

Please ping me when a soundtrack playlist pops up

[wise flame]

$5 bet tomorrow night they'll reveal a new subgame

[random tendon]

how big the gap is unsure, it's possible this did indeed start in 2022 but I have a feeling it was always switch 2 exclusive

[wise flame]

(ANOTHER MINIMUM WAGE JOB)

[vagrant hound]

Imagine Sakai actually did the song before he left Hal /lhj

[random tendon]

same with ishikawa... (copium)

[vagrant hound]

The “K” (it’s Kumazaki)

[lean grove]

Ando stole the Alivel remix slot in Dream Buffet from him

[random tendon]

kumazaki so talented he's now like sakurai and making the whole DLC himself

[vagrant hound]

Kumazaki “fine, I’ll do it myself”

[random tendon]

speaking of the K guy remind me can he be yuki kato or whatever was his name

[vagrant hound]

(Takes out 86,555kg Kumazaki Kirby bible)

[random tendon]

I can't recall the timeline of these

like when the K guy joined

[toxic delta]

when will spoiler thread open btw

[vagrant hound]

In 5 years

[random tendon]

likely a day before

because otherwise people will spam it with off topic stuff

[vagrant hound]

Probably 24 hours before Australia drop

[toxic delta]

ah okay

[wise flame]

What signal should I put out in the case of [Unexpected Depth]...? Hrm...

Ah I'll just use the good ol' "there's more"

[toxic delta]

sounds like it was whoever's first time working with HAL at all (and iirc their post was a while after RtDL DX) but considering we have literally no idea what Kato did with RtDL DX maybe

[tepid burrow]

Time to dream about Neichel

[wise flame]

Careful what you wish for buddy

Who knows what she'll do in a week

-# It's literally just a performance there won't be any evil stuff going on... maybe

As long as she doesn't give us that side eye then we'll be good

Man it'd be nice to see another person again

[wise flame]

Welp, better get your unrealistic Bingo Cards ready

[gleaming stream]

Always bet on Nebula

[long locust]

Eh no need to make a bingo card this time

The main thing that really matters plotwise seems to be at the endgame

[long locust]

If I had to make a guess development probably started sometime after RtDLDX was finished

[random tendon]

yeah that's my guess too

[wise flame]

I'm split between "Yeah this is probably a short adventure with only crazy stuff at the end (and postgame being more of just a revisitation of the content)" and "I paid $20 for this, it better be crazy"

I cannot say "Oh but HAL has given us a whole mode with dozens of levels for free in 2018" because frankly, as much as HAL as spoiled us on content as of late... still gotta keep myself in check!
(Remember, they didn't add Magolor Races or DC challenges in RTDLDX, so that's something to take note of)

[long locust]

Considering how much value Jamboree TV had for its price I'm honestly more inclined to say this will have better value

[wise flame]

HAL's already got that credibility

[sand patrol]

well you can do it

itll just take like

years

many many years

ill spoile SCW by 2132 mark my words

[spiral void]

The Horror

[olive coral]

I fucked around and got it as audio :D

[gleaming stream]

How is this the miniboss theme

[wise flame]

I'm only getting 3 spaces checked out

(oh what the hell did paint.net do to some of the text)

[astral oracle]

Star crossed world is in a week

[languid cobalt]

Ill have to wait for a bit to play star crossed world

But i should be done with it by the time spoilers are allowed

[sudden oracle]

Starman for Star-Crossed World 🙏

[wise flame]

Alright, for those who have BlockTube on Firefox/Google, here's some tips:

• When entering words in the "video title" blacklist, do NOT be super specific. Entering titles like "Kirby Star Crossed World: All Bosses" is not fool-proof, the extension will only be looking out for videos with the exact title entered.
• Be super vague and plain by entering only a key word or so, like "Final Boss" or "Star Crossed World".
• Account for potential variations of titles
• Also consider regional variants as well
• If you wanna go nuclear, just remove everything Kirby

[wide peak]

yeah but mostly just about switch 2 getting hacked this is the big crucial point

once switch 2 gets hacked things will be moving forward

[twin fog]

Switch 2 is never getting hacked bros

Hopefully we can at least dump things soon though

[toxic delta]

yes it will
grabs an axe >:)

[wise flame]

Isn't hacking the first neccessary steps to dumping?

[toxic delta]

but yeah dumping is main thing to me anyway

[gleaming stream]

Gotta give Nintendo credit

[mossy crane]

all you need is a trashcan for dumping tbh

[sudden oracle]

Nintendo made Switch 2 hackproof 😭

[wise flame]

Don't worry guys

All it takes is putting one thing into where it shouldn't go and boom full access

[toxic delta]

not necessarily, console did just come out lol
it would be a while until anyone found anything either way

[gleaming stream]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-ron-swanson-computer-trash-garbage-gif-21878872

[wise flame]

"They say if you open the cartridge slot and tickle it with a feather, it will confess its entire source code"

[sudden oracle]

People after trying to beat the final boss of this game (probably)

[wise flame]

"If you put 4 acupuncture needles into the pressure points, it will activate an emergency mode"

"Hey do you rememeber [RULE #2 redacted]? Yeah turns out it gives people full access to the Switch 2.... Only the physical version, costs $120"

There's going to be a silly method eventually

[gleaming stream]

I hope it’s that hard

[sudden oracle]

Same tbh

Imagine if they nerfed the dodge too lol

And hammer

[gleaming stream]

Too far

[sudden oracle]

It’s Soul Melter EX all over again

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-played-these-games-before-seong-gi-hun-squid-game-i've-played-these-games-already-netflix-gif-16480153790313233198

[wide peak]

ultimate cup z melter ex

[twin fog]

This means the new elfilis will have a combined 10K HP right
Do it HAL you cowards

[wise flame]

I still am curious if anything to do with base-game has been changed

[wide peak]

now featuring super ultra fuckass destroyer 90001 elfilis

[long locust]

Forget this I'm speedrunning it myself without the internet

[wide peak]

that does 1 trillion damage and can't be set on fire or frozen

[twin fog]

They accidentally removed Clawroline's rainbow afterimages
No one notices for 2 years

[wise flame]

With UCZ actually having a semblance of continuity... how's ex even gonna handle Elfilis?

"Phantom Elfilis"

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-elfilin-and-here-we-are-fecto-forgo-gif-25395639

[wide peak]

new copy ability leaked

[wise flame]

This is the design of Phantom Elfilis guys

So yeah anyways when SCW drops, first thing I'm gonna do on file 2 is check to see if I can undo my upgrade on crash

It's the only ability in the whole file to have been upgraded

[wide peak]

i still believe even if it takes a year or two or three or ten it'll happen one day

[sudden oracle]

Unfair Chaos Elfilis fight real

Just like Unfair Magolor becoming real

There’s a pattern

[wise flame]

Ok one base-game change I'd like is for mid-bosses to NOT do contact damage

[random tendon]

oh right I should preorder this

[tacit saffron]

it's ironic we act like this is a new game when the actual new game is in Nov

this is only just Dessert for the mainline

it may as well be though

[vital lodge]

to be honest I'm much more hyped for Star Crossed World compared to Air Riders

I much prefer mainline Kirbies compared to the Spin-Offs

[tacit saffron]

fair enough

[silk jewel]

THE MUSIC IS SO GOOD

I LOVE IT

[wide peak]

cuz kirby fans need to get a game every 1-2 years of else they'll go

[sand whale]

Help my preload icon on the home menu is here but I wanna play it

But I cant

Pre ordering is a blessing and a curse

[tacit saffron]

hiatus...

[silk jewel]

Triple deluxe deluxe

[somber temple]

okay no, the problem is that I still need to purchase the upgrade pack

BUT I JUST GOT BACK TO UNI LMAO

And still doing Bananza

Oh me, oh my. The spoiler culture on Twitter dotcom is unavoidable

welp. I might start another blackout... really a shame because I still have a VTuber subathon to watch live

PSA: PLEASE DO NOT BROWSE TWITTER WHILE PLAYING THROUGH THE GAME, THERE IS ALWAYS A CHANCE TO GET SPOILERS

https://fixupx.com/SonicoVt/status/1946254373476049383

Remember this tweet, this is an IMPORTANT telling of the state of spoiler discussion online.

Sonico (@SonicoVt)

The current spoiler/leak culture of the internet is so awful rn, if you like something and dont beat it/watch it FRAME 1 you are cooked
︀︀
︀︀Makes it so, bc you are rushing, you dont appreciate it enough and any problems you have get 100x worse than what they truly are

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FixupX · Jul 18, 2025, 5:02 PM

[tepid burrow]

SCW spoilers already?!

[somber temple]

Not yet.

[tepid burrow]

Oh

[somber temple]

This is just a forewarning I need to send out

[tepid burrow]

Good idea

[sand patrol]

this is just a big ol skill issue

[somber temple]

Really?? Why?

[sand patrol]

we have so many browser extension and word blocking tools you can avoid spoilers easily

[somber temple]

I guarantee ya - there will ALWAYS be someone posting spoilers with unrelated captions.

Which is nasty

[sand patrol]

or you just regulate your internet usage

[somber temple]

it's why I debated going on a blackout for a while

but I still have a lot of VTuber stuff to catch up to idk

[wise flame]

Do NOT use YouTube on TV

[somber temple]

I did it for Deltarune, so...

[wise flame]

FIND a third party app that is known to hide thumbnails

[tepid burrow]

Why Is that?

Oh

[somber temple]

Yeah I'm gonna just lock ReVanced for the meantime

[wise flame]

(Oh this is for phones should've elaborated)

Oh and just don't socialize for like 5 days

[somber temple]

I'll have to see if I can head to the mall

[wise flame]

Not even us well intentioned people should be trusted!!

Especially the mobile users

Because it's a little tricky to figure out how to spoiler photos

Do all this and maybe you'll keep your surprises safe

[somber temple]

also I'm really worried, if we wanna save Starries, I really hope no-hitting the new bosses is not important

[wise flame]

You're goung to have to no hit bosses sorry

[vagrant hound]

I’m going full non-blind since I gotta kill people if they spoiler the game outside the specific forum

[astral oracle]

Yes kill them all.

MURDER.

[vagrant hound]

Final boss is Fecto Dededale Soul

[somber temple]

Welp the game already taught me how to no-hit bosses. Time to dance again

[wise flame]

Can we hire a moderator who either illegally accessed the game early or just doesn't care about Kirby?

[vagrant hound]

I mean

[wise flame]

We can have them go blasting

[vagrant hound]

I’ll finish the game by the time half the world gets SCW

[wise flame]

UGH what time do you predict?

[vagrant hound]

Idk I get SCW like 13 hours before US does

[charred fiber]

Why do you get time travel privileges smh

[wise flame]

If my predictions are correct, I either could play SCW at 6:00 pm Pacific Time

[vagrant hound]

Muwahahaha

[wise flame]

Or 9:00 pm

[vagrant hound]

9pm since US gets them midnight of EST

[wise flame]

And this is the day before release date

[vagrant hound]

Well

[wise flame]

I guess we're both getting it at night-ish

[somber temple]

I wonder if you get anything for completing the new content. 200% completion methinks...

[wise flame]

Oh I'm stupid-

It's gonna be a full day for you over there-

NO YOU'RE GOING TO PLAY AN ADDITIONAL 5+ HOURS

[spiral void]

I will be opening up youtube dot com on the 28th only to blasted with FINAL BOSS + ENDING STAR-CROSSED WORLD 🔥

[turbid nexus]

Don’t be so dramatic

It’ll be the 27th!!!!!

Genuinely ready for the "UCZEX All Bosses + No Damage" video to get posted like at 9:00 in the morning to see Crystal Elfilis’ big ass head on the thumbnail

[vagrant hound]

I’d legit post final boss in the spoiler thread right before US gets the game

[turbid nexus]

Oh god

[tepid burrow]

Is it going to be Neichel?

[vagrant hound]

“Finished the game”

“The final boss was Fecto Dark Dededale Soul EX”

[turbid nexus]

The final boss will be an original character named Queen C. Rystal

[vagrant hound]

Parallel Sectonia

[timber hollow]

Nah it's gonna be Elfilis's corpse, trust!

[turbid nexus]

Ultimate Lifeform too angry to die

[timber hollow]

Bro always comes back

[turbid nexus]

Jokes aside this shot is so pretty

[tepid burrow]

Pretty as the Final Boss

[gleaming stream]

Definitely an endgame cutscene

[tacit saffron]

trailers be like that

[coarse arrow]

I have a test the day before the game comes out

https://tenor.com/view/dobby-dobby-dinner-table-crash-out-meme-silly-gif-13353036235976118047

[gleaming stream]

Avoid YouTube like the plague

[wise flame]

Wait is this good or bad??

Anyways DON'T check your phone at any point before or after

[dry mauve]

I’m not taking any chances I’m going ghost starting Monday

[tribal igloo]

yesssssssssss

the pink and blueee

aaaaaaaaaaaaa

[shut pendant]

can't wait to see these thumbnails again in a week

yaaay.

[torn vapor]

It’s k rool’s wife that he mentioned in dkc 3

The dlc is just a training arc for her so her husband doesn’t steal her pots and pans

[tacit saffron]

All the Starries!!! All Bosses (No Damage) 60FPS/or more HD Widescreen

[remote herald]

This dlc is NOT ready for me 😭

That comment is going to see me fight the first boss the fly back into space

[twin fog]

The DLC is not ready for Attack Boosted Toy Hammer+⭐

[shadow kindle]

Should I just buy SCW now and then play it immediately when it releases in my time zone?

[torn vapor]

What happens if you already completed the post game before going to scw

[twin fog]

Kumazaki shows up at your house and breaks your switch 2

[wide peak]

true

[remote herald]

If its not patched

[ocean ingot]

(dw i left out True Crystal Magolor so as not to spoil you guys)

[twin fog]

As in like they nerf it or what

[remote herald]

The toy hammer glitch

[tacit saffron]

there's no Manager Magolor on here 0/10

[twin fog]

HSJ is doable with every hammer
It'd also have no real relevancy to SCW either its not like it lets you skip bosses besides Leongar

I was just talking about how toy hammer is the highest DPS in the game

[remote herald]

The more i think about the dlc the more im convinced this is like a new race or something that infests planets. Something like dark matter but not quite

Mainly becuase of how the crystalization spreads and covers the world

It feels like its trying to take over

[tacit saffron]

maybe this is where Magolor Soul went

possible yet unlikely

[twin fog]

Well we're already told why the starries crystalize things in their figure description, which says that their power is meant to seal evil

Like how the star of darkness was crystalized before all the crystals exploded off of it as it was falling

[vagrant hound]

Not my bias

Totally

[twin fog]

I think the most interesting thing is the crystalized mid-bosses since they have both signs of the crystals which are the starries' power and design elements of the star of darkness

But like its probably just that like some bits of the star of darkness's power broke off still attached to the starries' seal when it exploded

[wide peak]

too washed for this

[twin fog]

nice

[wide peak]

phantom meta knight and morpho knight wasted so much time

[remote herald]

Holy shit what if the forgotten land isnt a plannet but instead a living being

[wide peak]

im not getting tru ucz ex if i keep getting above 5 minutes on regular ucz

[remote herald]

Like the whole world is some huge living thing

And thats why the crystals are covering the ground

[twin fog]

No they just crystallize where ever they land b/c they're lost and waiting for someone to guide them
I think that was also from the figure? Honestly I've lost track of where the story info come from

[remote herald]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-gamer-gif-19466112

[twin fog]

Ok yea

[remote herald]

Im just saying galacta knight gets sealed away in a crystal, what if the staries are the ones who sealed him and by proxy maybe the ancients???? Idk im just spitballing

[twin fog]

There's definitely some vague bullshit that's gonna be going on between sealing crystals and gems and whatnot

[remote herald]

Im using my combined 1/4ths of a braincell to rapidfire crackpot conspiracies

[shrewd oracle]

Crazy that we'll have a new kirby final boss in less than a week

[remote herald]

How long do you guys think the dlc will be?

[shrewd oracle]

12-13 levels with final boss sequence

And then also ucz ex

[wide peak]

i do wonder if ability refresh works in other arenas cuz normally you can't get like sleep in ucz

[turbid nexus]

I know I’m so excited😭 😭 😭

[wide peak]

why am i comparing it to getting sleep i meant like rarer abilites like crash

[ocean ingot]

Ability refresh?

[turbid nexus]

I know they gonna cook with that final boss theme considering how the music sounds……

[ocean ingot]

Oh wait like the abilities that show in the waiting room? Im so slow

[wide peak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXcKRIor2kA

this explains ability refresh better

[ocean ingot]

Ohhhhhh, that's pretty cool actually

[wide peak]

it's one of the more lesser known glitches

[wise flame]

If anyone's wondering... Yes, Morpho's sword during specific attacks still take on Galaxia's shape with the latest update

ANYWAYS I got 32 rare stones... gonna spend them on figurines (despite having all 256 of them)

FUCK it let's empty out my wallet too I guess

I will let Carol 🐆 take all my savings because I want to treat SCW as a fresh new game...

[somber temple]

That's right, Carol will use it to fund Channel PPP

[twin fog]

So true

[warped harbor]

I’M OLD

[wise flame]

I'm BROKE

(In Game)

Well I'm not touching this game for the next 6-7 days

5 days

[wise flame]

Ok in the next twitter post later today, they will show a four panel gallery showcasing stuff they haven't shown us so far (but not spoiler territory)

[sudden mirage]

got my preorder in finally

[formal warren]

Same!!! 🔥

[gleaming stream]

Just a week away

[tepid burrow]

I have school next week

So i can’t play SCW immediately when it releases

[shadow kindle]

Same

[shadow kindle]

This might seem like a dumb question, but if we buy SCW now and preload it, can we still play the game but without the 60 fps and SCW content or do we have to wait until SCW's release to be able to access the game again

[high widget]

oh yeah havent thught of that

are you allowed to open it lol

[random tendon]

you can access the game, you will get a prompt it will launch the regular game and you can accept and open

[shadow kindle]

I see

[random tendon]

see here

[vagrant hound]

So glad I got sick before SCW instead of during SCW release

[shadow kindle]

Thanks!

Does it perhaps have something to do with Magolor?

[vagrant hound]

Honestly imagine if they didn’t let you play 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
Would’ve been kinda funny

[random tendon]

yeah LOL

[shadow kindle]

That would be cruel lmao

[vagrant hound]

Probably not lol

[random tendon]

english name of alivel stage

Lost in Alivel Mall

[remote herald]

It would be really funny if efflin ends up betraying kirby in the dlc

[turbid nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/superbowlsunday-theweeknd-weeknd-halftime-show-gif-20283693

[tardy mortar]

I did get sick while playing RTDL Deluxe at one point

it wasn't a super bother but it wasn't great

[void jay]

This is a syncronized unlock for everyone right?

We shouldnt be having early copies or similar this time

[toxic delta]

no

it depends on region of eShop you bought it from

see how Jamboree TV was for reference

[random tendon]

it's like a game release so yeah australia will get it first then japan

[wise flame]

Welp there goes my acronym prediction

[toxic delta]

yeah, and then America will basically be the last to get it

[void jay]

Where do you think this game will end up landing in your kirby game rankings?

[toxic delta]

above FL (probably around TDX and below SA and RtDL DX)

definitely up there with music as well so far lol

[tepid burrow]

The hype is real! https://vxtwitter.com/Stealth40k/status/1958933941030653966

Stealth (@Stealth40k)

After 5+ weeks, Donkey Kong Bananza is no longer #1 on the Switch 2 eShop.

It's Kirby time! https://t.co/NE02n1R0A8

vxTwitter / fixvx · Aug 22, 2025, 4:47 PM

[long locust]

It never has worked like that
For digital versions, you unlock it whenever it's midnight of the release date in your timezone region
For physical versions, they're always available regardless of when you obtained it (yes this is how you get YTers who spoil everything ASAP)

[random tendon]

the thing is that some updates do drop at the same time, I believe DLC. I know KSA updates did and I think the smash bros DLC? and those were at the same time for everyone

hence the question

[toxic delta]

yeah though those were more general updates

[vagrant hound]

It would raise up a question if its a same release, because they will have to time it perfectly for every country to hit the date for it to work

[toxic delta]

free updates almost always drop at the same time

[vagrant hound]

jamboree dropping based on region and it being similar to scw, for now, Im just gonna assume it will be the same

[toxic delta]

also with how the dates have been listed

since it's '28th' everywhere

[robust tundra]

monke pass torch to round boy

[tribal igloo]

Me when I get a physical copy of the game

[wise flame]

Welp! 🖐️ 😐 🤚

https://tenor.com/view/gun-db-shotgun-gif-21597283

/j

[forest shell]

Absolute Poyo

[wise flame]

Ok now that I think about it, it is a little weird that they even put "Arrival Point" ahead of Waddle Dee town on the map

Considering that, location-wise, it should be before the town

Of course it's just there for gameplay, so it shouldn't be looked into much...

[lean grove]

Location-wise it needs to be close to the beach

[remote herald]

Is the switch 2 update avaliable rn?

Like updated graphics and frames

[green crater]

No

[vagrant hound]

No

Only pre-download

It’ll go live along with SCW

[green crater]

We call SCW a dlc because it feels like one contentwise, but it's really the Switch 2 edition itself. There is no update separate from SCW

[remote herald]

Well yeah scw is dlc

I was solely talking about the upgrade

I wonder how we will refer to scw in like 10 years

[rapid stump]

When does SCW drop again

[remote herald]

Becuase this is like the first dlc adventure

[vagrant hound]

28th, based on your region

[remote herald]

Less than a week

[vagrant hound]

Midnight of est for NA folks

[remote herald]

Star crossed world, just a week away

[rapid stump]

Wait it's this month?

[remote herald]

https://tenor.com/view/can-you-believe-guys-christmas-one-week-until-christmas-im-so-thriled-about-this-information-christmas-christmas-meme-gif-24202287

[vagrant hound]

Midnight of Japan for Japan folks (which is 11am est)

[rapid stump]

For some reason I thought it was September

[vagrant hound]

Yeah it’s next week haha

August for SCW, November for Air Riders

Gonna be a tight schedule

[remote herald]

Its so hard being a kirby fan, we have to wait 3 WHOLE MONTHS for new content 😫

[wide peak]

it drops 27th for australia and japan people and 28th everywhere else in europe, asia and america

[wide peak]

i like it it has the same naming remix as the other revealed names (meteor shower arrival and crossing wondaria)

i wonder what the vs crystal bosses music is gonna be called

[green crater]

What I meant was that scw isn't really a dlc

Even if we call it one

[vestal isle]

galacta knight is in this one for real this time

[high widget]

The Greatest Warrior Ever

[wide peak]

..........in another dimension

[high widget]

i wish they called it The Greatest Warrior Evermore

instead of just Ever

[tepid burrow]

Welp, no Neichel 😔

[forest shell]

Wait

what

is that an actual soundtrack

[green crater]

No, it's just someone hoping

[forest shell]

oh

[vagrant hound]

If it’s a actual soundtrack name we would probably delete it 😭 😭

Or screamed louder

[forest shell]

We wouldve screamed louder

[somber temple]

tbh I'm scared

I realized I can't get the upgrade pack in time

another VTuber viewing hiatus next week to dodge spoilers

Twitter's probs gonna be filled to the brim with those

thus I cannot use it to browse for VTuber fan art, ARGH

[tribal igloo]

A--AH???

I am not gonna trust this yet lmao

[somber temple]

Most insane fan name ever

[tribal igloo]

But yeah I really hope galacta knight is in this

If morpho knight can return so can they

[toxic delta]

if he appears at all it'd probably be in ZEX (and overall partially depends on how they handle the last half there)

[rustic crow]

Something just occurred to me. The footage we've seen obviously has shown a good chunk of midbosses upgraded and at least one totally new midboss
But outside of the main evil enigma, how many full on bosses will the Star Crossed World specific content offer?

Like will some bosses get Crystalized somehow? Maybe it could even happen to Claworline at some point which would prompt Leongar to save her like she helped save him

That probably isn't likely, but I still wonder about other potential new bosses or boss upgrades

[turbid nexus]

Honestly I feel like the only new main bosses will be fought at the end of SCW

I can see a final gauntlet of two or three new ones

[toxic delta]

could see there being one or two in between (maybe at Fallen-Star Volcano itself)

[wise flame]

Well, since they've bothered to acknowledge and demonstrate UCZex, it may be safe to assume the beast pack leaders won't be crystalized

The "scope" of SCW is something that concerns me, only in the context of it being basically paid

It could be small but servicible, a mere bonus incentive for new players...

But it could also be an entire game that merged with the base-game

It would be dissapointing if the entire adventure is set in the Forgotten Land, with the prospect of going someplace new being exclusive to a climactic final boss...

I want surprises, though. As much as I want the Twitter account to just announce that "Hey guys this adventure is bigger than we made it to be" in 2-ish hours... I think it's best if they keep things surface-level...

[toxic delta]

12+ stages (with unique music), ZEX, figures, new stuff in Waddle Dee Town, etc. is already a bit

[vestal isle]

i couldn't think of something funny to top "the greatest warrior in the galaxy, EVER"

[hybrid bolt]

Pretty solid for 20 bucks

[tacit saffron]

DLC extension featuring more new stuff intended for normal gameplay

featuring new assets including models, 3 more varieties of gameplay for main gimmick power up, new rooms/areas, music, characters, writing, not to mention needing to promote the game/new content from the outside

• the upgrade benefits

would be neat if there was an option for just the upgrades to get without needing SCW on top of it

however it is what it is

[hybrid bolt]

Around 12 levels is already 1/4th of the games content being there

We either take this or have a semi- large dlc that undoubtedly only belates the main development of the next gen mainline Kirby title

The only erroneous part is locking the tech upgrades behind a paywall

[tacit saffron]

treat before the next main meal

[gleaming stream]

Who will find all the starries on their first run

[tacit saffron]

may or may not want to find them on a first run

I mean there's still the automatic ones you get at the end of the stage

just so you can progress without needing to be gatekepted by diverting from the main route

[toxic delta]

tbh I'd rather them this way than normal update so I can remove it if I want

since iirc the free Switch 2 updates are....updates

also rather it'd come with something rather than being BotW/TotK ones lol

[tacit saffron]

free on their own when you put in and play a Switch game on a Switch 2

but then there's SW2 edition

a layer up from just an update

[toxic delta]

(and vice versa with Jamboree TV)

funny $20 Switch 2 Edition that doesn't even affect the base game for some fucking reason

[tacit saffron]

they feel more close to the Wii U ports on the Switch