#Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)
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love the star allies switch 2 edition releasing on august 28th
I have to re-check though...
But if I can't see even one Loading Tip then the Switch 2 fucked up the game /pos
idk even after i play KRTDX i go
so true, I can't wait for the build-a-Jamba Heart and make your own Void mode
why am i playing game with lamer gamefeel than KSA
like the best gamefeel u get out of KRtDL DX is like. the two new abilities and Magolor Epilogue
and then KSA i can be like unga bunga and do the hardest boss rush in the series and unga bunga there
For being a remake, it does revert to relatively outdated systems in parts
I cannot tolerate beam whip doing ONE hit
Where's my brrrrt?!
I like RtDL DX, they did mostly good job putting the newer stuff in it
I don't get how RTDL DX has lamer game feel when certain abilities do more
beam whip rotation
It reverts to annoying 2011 mechanics that got improved over the years
yeah, and some moves are their older variations
Its like Star Allies has the system and RtDL has the actual game
And then its like
When do we get to see that combined again
I think it's mostly fine though, keeps the original feel obviously
I certainly do not notice any massive improvement over abilities lol
same except afterwards i will replay the whole game including star-crossed world for the full 60 fps experience
it's hard for me to care when SA' enemies and bosses all die pretty fast
I just don't care.
me w/ FL bosses
and most of the stuff is minor anyway
I was convinced I'd never want to replay FL until I replayed FL and it was peak and I ended up replaying FL twice within like a month
FL is the only kirby game I've played where RESETTING is more fun than prolonging a file's life
also me for AM but I call it peam instead bc im biased
i had fun in FL doing no upgrades or evos whatsoever and it made the regular final boss feel tanky in wild mode
only if you powered-up abilities I feel
SCW is made or broken by how it handles our before-install choices
though SqSq and Epilogue are same way with that
I've seen takes that says FL is worse to replay because of the limited moveset/abilities and I'm like
Even If upgrades are OUR responsibility... if the game just allows us to enjoy basically starting with Uber Cheats with no option or temporary restriction... it has a problem!
eh, I usually marinate on these games years after and they hold up really well
it has less in that regard but it's fine as first 3D game
a game for me doesn't hold up well if the level design is a huge nothing burger, and I don't think FL is that.
Something something Star Allies is the X and Y of Kirby
very different feel to begin with
I think FL has the most robust novel gimmick out of the modern kirby games.
it's constantly featured in every level with a new interesting idea
they're also nice in that you don't really have to use them too often
Even when a level is finished, ugh man why do the vibes STILL WORK?!
THAT REMINDS ME
I did this run where in XY
i only took Physical Attackers
no special attackers
and the game became challenging ish
no exp sahre ofc
I will NOT enjoy UCZEX with base level abilities
steps forward.
then don't
I just go no exp share no megas and I don't perceive a difference in difficulty with most pokemon games
They're all just click buttons and win imo
QUITTER TALK!
what if you just use Morpho Sword
ya thats why i chose physical attackers only because i cant just click physical attack of one type to win
something channel kirby mentioned in his recent video that i never realized, is that mouthful mode works so well as a gimmick because it's not just a single gimmick
super abilities are also strong individual attacks, hypernova is only inhaling, robobot armor is all more powerful copy abilities
but mouthful mode is just a general term for a bunch of different gimmicks, including driving around, opening rooms, flying through the air, etc.
basically, there isn't a limit to what can be a mouthful mode, unlike these other gimmicks
thats why i want mouthful mode to be like
Oh no thanks, that will be for speedruns
a permanent thing
like
I want this to be part of Kirby's anatomy moving forward
doesnt have to be in every game he just can do it
i don't think it will appear again any time soon after scw
that'll be funnt
and i mean there's so much merch of mouthful kirby at this point
also its not tied to a magical force or mechanic
"Kirby stop getting fucked up and eating my car."

I think he'll technically have it but just not use it lol
oh right, more kirby merch, yeah they're definitely bringing it back
PLEASE
this is all i beg
I want to punt Kirby
We all do
or just like how they usually treat abilities between games
Spear is the only ability they add
kirby actually has permanent access to every gimmick but just forgot about them
same goes for copy abilities
i mean why do you think light hasn't returned? because it's so underwhelming and underutilized kirby just forgot it existed
Bandee is still a beggar
geniunely do think they're still cooking a new kirby game that's not dlc lol
actually it's because Cool Spook is on vacation
kirby also forgot about cleaning for 21 years
Light could have been so much more
Wild Mode ex
we have light bulb mouth and C A N D L E now
i mean, yeah, kirby air riders
There's gotta be a dedicated EX difficulty
I mean, pretty obvious they are lol
they wouldn't spend 3 years on just DLC
Or would they...
they wouldn't
it isn't like they spent 2-3 years on just RtDL DX either
(I mean, FL and Dream Buffet literally came out within that time lmao)
basically yes (though it's also technically not DLC, is weird spot)
it kinda is DLC if you ignore the physical release
kinda is, kinda not
like it's a textbook example of an expansion pack
the physical release can be considered a bundled version of the base game and the dlc
can also buy the full Switch 2 Edition digital
physical is also more precisely Switch 1 version and Switch 2 Edition bundle (due to how they work)
digital games in of itself is technically DLC but with a different definition of content
like it's just
DL
yeah, though obviously by that definition Kirby's had it since....SFC era arguably
though moreso at least since Wii VC
(which partially depends on how they handle later parts in general)
Literally showed up in return to dreamland remake
nah they definitely plan on bringing him back eventually, but not here
remake
(he was in original RtDL)
Ultrby my goat
so really last new appearence was....SKC
aka 2019
Okay we can’t play that game. That’s like saying that Magolor hasn’t appeared since Star Allies because he was also in the OG Rtdl
but yeah like basically SCW's story already contradicts his kind of stuff
what
GK fight is literally nearly the exact same, including the scenario
Like, even if he was in the OG game, they could very well have just omitted him from the remake.
it's not like Magolor with Magoland and Epilogue
no???
they do not like doing that
there's only been a few replacements ever and those were for reasons
My point is that they aren’t trying to “move past” him.
If they wanted to, they would just not put him in.
The premise just smells of Galacta knight for me idk. Theres a vague whiff.
not really
it basically contradicts it for SCW itself
meteor literally cannot be him
something will be born from the dark star, and GK has never been a dark, evil being anyway (and like obviously it'd be weird for his gem seal to be in there either way)
again if he's in, it'd be in ZEX
I’d argue he was in SKC
no????
that's not innate
that's a transformation and he wasn't evil
there was no dark aura shit
and he wouldn't be 'born' anyhow
We’ll see i suppose
Who can be?
Unless its like a fully new character.
I mean yeah the current speculation is Forgo species member
the only thing they did was the fakeout in star allies, but for me that was more like a troll move as in "oh you thought this would be another galacta knight battle? trolled!"
it's also not even the first time we have a new birth boss
Void moments
anyway these 'second extra modes' tend to connect to their main games pretty directly, keep that in mind
even down to the boss themes
I think every mainline kirby final boss has been related to darkness in some way
funnily enough the one I can relate to darkness the least is like sectonia or marx
HiAD had Corrupt Hyness and Mages, Epilogue had Crowned Doomer and Master Crown
and even then sectonia is related to the moon, night, darkness
You wouldn’t play a secondary mode and end the battle expecting Pierre McJohnson brand new character you gotta give me NME guy NEO.
true
though Sectonia has dark lightning
new bosses can have connections to other ones
Star Dream?
depends on what you consider new, master crown wasn't new in epilogue like as a new entity but almost everything about it was lol
think some of Marx's Smash Ultimate moves were darkness-related too??? I forget
My eyes are genuinely so tired I thought this said “related to nakedness in some way”
it also transformed with Grand Gem Apple, which was partially new
that's a design on purpose
Star Dream does NOT look like zero two
concept art was bit closer with it
Void Termina 02 
like I said, concept art. but anyway lots of these design documents carried over, and you can see the zero two similarities in the final design as well
anyway there is the Dark Matter Clone and Sectonia Clone thing I guess
I see the resemblance now but I think using concept art is a bit silly, considering a lot of scrapped designs get repurposed into entirely new characters
either way I was just joking that we can relate all kirby final bosses to darkness it's not that deep
You wouldn’t say Magolor is related to Haltmann because Magolor looked like an elderly wizard in old concept art
well I just explained how the final design still uses these cues
but like I said, we're getting off topic
I was just making a joke 
didn't expect a errrrmm actually
It's not going to be galacta knight
I still think Magolor will show up in SCW, trust me
It would be very funny if they canonized Morpho Knight a second time in case all the Galacta fans didn’t see it the first go because of the tears
Star Dreamer also gives that vibe but maybe that's just me, doesn't seem to actually be darkness lol
they were both always 'canon' 
(even not counting distinct parallels, SA Dream Friend Guest Stars are implied to have happened to some extent, and MKU is definitely implied to have happened and connects with other things)
Okay how on earth would MKU happen
it literally has a story?
MK going "I want to train"
The story in MKU is that Kirby defeated all the- OH WAIT WRONG META KNIGHTMARE
my bad its like 3 AM here.
I still don’t think it can happen due to a little thing called Nova.
also MK just sort of destroys his own base for no reason.
#kirby-kingdom message
"The protagonist is Meta Knight! After being defeated by Kirby in "Revenge of Meta Knight," Meta Knight is going on a journey of training to discipline himself again. Nevertheless, it will be a wondrous journey, following Kirby's previous adventures, one by one. What is waiting for Meta Knight at the end of his journey?"
(from https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/ykwj/games/index_h.html)
Nova literally has continuity with MWW
you see it reform
Destroying the Halberd feels in character to me, looking at RoMK MK who was willing to conquer a country because people are lazy
same with Dyna Blade and her chicks, who aren't babies and still have the armor
yep
He is like “OH MY GOD WERE ALL GOING TO DIE IM SO SORRY I SHOULDNT HAVE PICKED THIS FIGHT” in RoMK
They just all survive because
????
I enjoy imagining him being like "THINK FAST" to the crew
Kirby is the goat
Sometimes shit just goes his way because he has a kind heart and soul
also saying that 'character doing this doesn't make sense' doesn't contradict things, else people would argue HiAD is not 'canon'
and again MKU is treated very casually afterwards and has been referenced directly three times (and has never been called a distinct parallel either)
always thinks of this post
(click for full thing)
Same vibe
Training for him, going up against a large mobile target with lots of guns
Training for the crew, going up against a small nimble target, maybe learning enough that Kirby can't infiltrate again
Training for all of them, practicing getting really good at putting the ship back together
I love meta knight so much I wish he didn’t you know
me when Meta Knight is the 'greatest warrior' (thanks RtDL (DX) Stone statue, TDX DMK description, and SA Channel post)
Do slavery that one time
Dedede: “Meta Knight’s Battleship Halberd went down”
Meta Knight: “Please crash them immediately”
you know I'm gonna laugh when they do GK Nintendo Today post and they just treat MKU like everything else
Kirby is Dreamland’s first ever abolitionist
If
they will
Honestly, I go with "is it funny or cool? Awesome, then it definitely happened" anymore lol
unless they stop early for some reason
(Magolor fans in tears)
I kinda wanna find out what the deal with their species is
they are fushigi /meme /reference
also this is great. Just to make Dedede's story accurate?
Like, Kirby, Meta and Galacta are the same species, right? What does their culture put in the baby formula? Crack cocaine?
former likely are, we have no idea for GK though
never seen under his mask
good chance though
I have a HC that the species only grows wings when they gain the will to fight 10,000 suns in a single instant
I mean, you could see what he does in SKC as his form of a copy ability, he has some pretty direct similarities with Meta Knight…
did Kirby lose his when he gained the will to fight a million
Galacta Knight is also pretty much made as a direct parallel to him, like meant to "mirror" him in a way
tbh yeah i never really thought too hard about Kirby specifically getting wings, I just wanted a HC that gives some orbs wings without doing it to others so I didn't have to make up wings for adaptation orbs that don't have any
without making the wings Not Real or a cape
I see them kind of like the spear and sword? They’re gear! Means to an end. Weapons.
Kirby doesn’t have them because Kirby has no need for them.
it's based off the wing reveal in Super Star which goes so hard
also because uh
frankly, when Kirby DOES come at you with something he’d consider a weapon its a lot stronger than what MK and GK get
I feel like a lot of people are gossing over the fact we're getting a new difficulty in the arena wich likely means a new secret boss fight
Well, Kirby also has "protagonist power", ie a game wouldn't be fun if your player avatar couldn't ever win
oh yeah even beyond just putting the DLC's final boss in
Yeah
I don't really see anyone talking about Morpho Knight actually, he's a lot more likely to show up
probably because the fans want Galacta Knight even more, lol.
justice for the birb borb, bring him back
WHAM BAM JEWEL
Hes already in the game though
ye which is why he might show up again
Well, also Morpho is already in FL so it's not exciting to speculate about it
hopefully not to steal away the Forgo Soul 2.0 boss fight again
I hope they do something besides huge ball
I feel like trying to double dip on Morpho outside of the new arena would just sort of lessen his impact?
Especially since his appearance requires killing an upcoming boss
true
it worked for Galacta Knight because he was reoccurring but if we got more unique designs we never got to fight because of Morpho, it'd be a little eh
Honestly i sort of want a remake of the galacta knight fight from super star ultra
That would be awesome
My biggest continuity based kirby headcanon is that the moment Kirby meets Link in the Super Smash Bros. Series he thinks he is so cool he gives the sword copy ability his cap.
That’s all I got in my hopes of canonization of alternate stories.
It would be really funny if smash was cannon to kirby becuase that would mean kirby has canonically met sans undertale
Sword actually should've been a little knight helmet hat
not really for former, it's more of a Power Effect if anything I think
like one of the basic sets for Sword Hero in Clash 
with how he holds up the spear and all
There is a Smash Bros. Copy Ability in PR.
Did y’all remember when the final boss of P.R. Is an AI that has completely absorbed the soul of an opportunistic capitalist that started making it to pursue an idea but got so slothful he forgot what he was doing it for and just started to use it to turn a profit?
Also smash has its own cannon
Like im pretty sure all the fighters are toys or something
Smash Kid makes up lore for all of them
Yeah in the next smash game you cant actually take damage at all becuase the kid playing with they toys keeps dodgeing all the attacks
I don’t mind it
It feels like an "it was all just a dream" explanation
i sort of hope the new arena mode is way harder
i just replayed the ultimate arena z and beat it like second try
I hope it's not too hard, ultimate cup Z is already pretty hard
yeah i get that
I imagine they balance this stuff around the first few attempts, not the "I've replayed the game a bunch and know all the mechanics perfectly" attempts
nah i havent played since around the game release
Though given it's listed as being UCZ ex, I do expect it to be at least a little harder than UCZ? Otherwise why else call it that.
On one hand, an "ex" difficulty feels expected
On the other hand... it's Kirby, for what reason would this be needed?
Imagine if the heart transforms into another clockwork star
That would be insane
Like
Genuinely
Clockwork Star, Meet...
Because they are fucking huge, star dream was bigger then popstar
...I have no good equivalent nevermind-
if that heart floats over to a pedistol and a giant ass clockwork star starts to emerge from the ground i will lose my shit
The moon from gurren
"meo- cough"
Literally the exact same thing
"squeak"
I'm personally hoping for something that's not just another reference to a past boss. Like, Nova is cool, but we already had Star Dream
I feel like it should be like aeon hero to meta knight
Have it be another one of its species, but have it be a completely different
part of me wants that but like the kirby mythos is already so huge i would be fine with waiting until the next mainline game for something new
if they do something new though i want them to commit
I enjoy references to past games. I just guess I prefer them as stuff other than like final bosses
as long as it isnt another orb ill be happy
I also accept that it's easier to speculate about stuff like "what if the final boss is GK" or "wouldn't it be cool if Nova", than it is to come up with something completely original. But I kinda feel like, if it's something we could come up with, it's not very interesting
i was so disapointed when the secret boss in the hardest arena of FL was just a red orb
I mean, what would ya expect from a final-soul boss?
even if its dark nebula 😔
Nebby would be ok I guess. It's been ages at least
...
Me too buddy me too
(Ever since TDX, though, "secret" final bosses always got that "bonus phase of their core" type of fight)
Ok maybe some outliers since then but like yeah
seeing another form of elfflis that just made them an insane eldrich horror beyond what we already had wouldve been way cooler than the orb
Eh, perfect excuse to recreate Drawcia Soul in 3D
yeah
🌏👨🚀🔫👨🚀
It's all Drawcia?
Always was
She practically owns the patent of final boss attacks
the smile on my face wouldnt disapear for a week strait
I would say between drawcia (burning sun, paint splashes, bounces) and marx soul (laser, thorns, cutters, black hole, split and rush) almost all the souls reference them one way or another
YES
There's this music video i saw for a Two Planets arrangement, and it had such a cool design
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=734&v=kxdUhduD3Og
(at 12:12 if the time url thingy don't work)
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Beat me to it this time lol
expected it to be tonight since Air Riders Direct lol
more of the timed purple crystal stuff
Can’t believe we’re getting air riders full music before SCW /s
This is "Spring Mouth". As the name suggests, it lets you jump hiiigher than usual!
For enemies and metal blocks, aim carefully from above and use the "Drop Attack"!
This ability is very thrilling, and exhilarating~!```
spring mario but good.
Can't lie nothing about what they've shown so far has blown me away but hopefully the dlc itself is more than meets the eye
Probably one of those things that's more interesting to play than to watch someone else play lol
They’re def keeping some things hidden
smh kirby jp let me translate magolor related stuff, instead of scw
When you visit Waddle Dee Town, talk to Magolor to unlock the new "Skibidi Toilet" ability.
Wow! This ability sucks!!!```
I hate this
Yay!
I hope your pillow smells like leongar
What does he smell like
lion
Will have to go to a zoo to find out what that's like
I love stickers like this cause they make me giggle like an idiot

erm
they use far-flung now

(distant is better)
Drum dash superiority 💯
august 28
The treehouse footage sold me on the game
i'm the forbidden fourth team (no switch 2 for me, spoiler time)
The hidden 5th team: Casuals
Not in it for the lore or the challenge but they have fun anyways
I suppose I'm with Team "Quick Finish"
quick finish but NOT because youtubers will ruin it or a disregard for "balanced gameplay", whatever that means
Im sitting on the middle of quick finish and fair play
Ill use the upgraded abilities, but none of them besides hammer and sword are fully upgraded to star plus, and I rarely use the stat buffs
Hell Ill probably limit myself to meta sword for a substantial part of the play through
Let's be honest upgraded abilities have never really mattered for like 90% of gameplay anyway
Its almost exclusively the boss fights where they actually matter
Any that change movement def do matter
If you look at the image they were replying to (And I certainly don't fault you if you immediately looked away without reading it after seeing it) by 'upgraded abilities' zerbie meant ability power up and not evolutions
Ohhhhhh
Thar makes more sese
Even then though not many upgrade movement
So you are still not entirely wrong
The man who brings storm tornado to every level to rush past everything as fast as possible:
But they definitely make killing things more fun
don't let air riders distract you from the fact that scw is 9 days away (8 for certain regions)
galacta knight revival in 9 days
Always bet on Nebula
Watch this guy come out of the meteor (SCW is actually a prequel to Air Riders)
can't wait for this chat to blow up like how the air riders chat did lol
Which will happen on August 28th
or 27, depending on your timezone
pretty excited for both things
Same
ofc first will come star crossed world and then in november we'll get air riders
Can’t wait for more Elfilin
I do wonder if both games have some kind of connection like dark heart in star crossed world and this weird dedede oc in air riders
Kirby Year
probably not
I could see latter making references/ties in some form eventually though
moreso assuming it gets post-launch support (which it probably will)
This is a ghost town for now
Me: I will fucking die waiting for SCW
Sakurai: Air Riders Direct
ZUN: Touhou 20
Hololive: All For One
Me: Oh ok.
Well, it's basically about to be 1 week before release
They have already showcased the mouthful modes they want to show us
They have already given us a fairly sized 2nd overview trailer
And they have already given us what they want to show us in terms of the motive for the adventure
What remains to be seen is if there will be a dedicated spotlight video for UCZex
(and of course, a last minute "release trailer" where it shows us clips of cutscenes during a final boss moment)
Craziest part is that it’s only Tuesday lol
Dont wanna speculate a pattern RN but it looks like every 2-3 days a spotlight video is made
I'm glad air riders direct was this week not the next week
another Kirby Year
both games being on the Switch 2 in release/first year
Switch 2 is going to be quite the road for this series to follow on + Switch 1 games backwards compatible
☕
we must remind ourselves this is not normal
huh, guys...
star/spacey titles
Chances of breaking street date this week or do physical Switch 2 versions of Switch 1 games require an extra download

i think there's probably the high probability that anyone who does break street date doesn't care about streaming the game
Like how we didnt get stuff for RTDL DX literally the day before it released
switch 2 editions that are the full game and not just upgrade pack come with everything on cart
the only barrier to it leaking is someone actually caring enough to get it early and upload pics or videos
Nice, so early leaks will really just come if someone gives a shit
Begging to god but man
we ain't gonna see shit 😭
Which actually on second thought right no based
Do not want to watch early leaker take 10 minutes to beat gorimondo
yeah i don't think it's likely if even rtdx was leaked like
the day before lol
to leak this would require someone to buy base FL too
physical Switch 2 versions have both on cart
and yeah it can, real question is how much people who get it early would post
Yea like
who's gonna buy FL again just to leak the game early
Who's gonna buy the game to leak but doesn't already own FL
either way though the usual people will post longplays right when full game releases
I have no doubt about that at least
silksong in two days too
A full time hater
Someone who's on that "I HATE SURPRISES" kinda grind
Or, a retail employee
could also just happen by chance
if someone didn't have it yet (or sold their physical to get Switch 2 physical) and was planning to get it
Despite leaking only one day before, it was still a memorable day because the Magolor Epilogue credits had everyone like:
and for me it's the new Deltarune chapters and Millie Parfait
yeah i can see little forgotten land/star crossed world references in air riders
but prob not as well again it'll be a mystery
I'm just here thinking if the final boss turns out to be ||Elfilis|| again, it would become like William Afton from FNAF, but either it would give memes similar to the "Peepaw" memes that spawned back in '22, or it will actually be treated as a real threat (Yes I am very rotted with FNAF)
is it weird that the most thing i'm excited for in star crossed world is ultimate cup z ex
i'm hoping it'll be hard since ultimate cup z it's not really that hard just get a maxed out toy hammer and speed boost and damage boost and go wild
I mean
those are meant to be easy options
you can always just use normal things if you want
(and boosts are marked on time so game agknowledges it too, same way as amiibo, as well as Souvenir Items in RtDL DX)
really it's like using Tornado, Sand, etc. on RtDL DX one and Souvenir Items and using cheesy strats and going 'why isn't this harder'
one of Kirby's main things in general is being able to make it as easy or hard for yourself as you want
Base ability ucz is pretty brutal
i tried doing a abilityless boostless run one day and it was horrible
idk how can anyone do it
Takes practice for sure
Im really looking forward to whats in store for this new arena though!
watch them nerf toy hammer in star crossed world
struggling? use ability/character with invincible guard or similar like Stone, Ice, Archer, Leaf, Magolor, etc. or something Master-like like Mage Sisters, Masked Hammer, or Morpho Sword; use power-ups or amiibos or souvenir items or whatever
want to make it harder? limit stuff like your guarding or dashing or hovering, use abilities you aren't comfortable with or do it ability-less, take minimum healing items, etc.
probably not
only nerf would be removing superjumps, but that'd be a general thing
would also be weird because of save compatibility
please hal don't patch hammer/dragon fire super jump glitch
literally one of the best forgotten land glitch to ever exist
masked hammer is an okay ability toy hammer still beats it even without any boosts
but toy hammer with boosts does the most damage out of any ability in the game
I mean Masked Hammer is pretty close anyway and the actual Master-equivalent, also better for stages
(im talking like maxed out toy hammer not the basic version)
was just giving out examples anyway
pretty sure that's actually Twin Drill
but it's harder to use
or at least, it's theoretically faster
it might be but you need keep doing circles to get most out of it where with toy hammer you just have to hold a button for few seconds
yeah as I said, harder to use
it might be better for the stages but for ucz (with boosts) it's not that good
I mean again, it is still pretty good ability overall (really if you're speaking time though it's still up there anyway so I have legit no idea what you're talking about lmao)
and again, it is just an example
and again, it is a Master-like
I'm just saying you can make it as easy or hard for yourself as you want
yeah
you can use whatever you don't have to use meta abilities good or bad doesn't matter it's your save you choose what you want
some make it easy some hard
forgotten land is now confirmed to be the only switch era game so far to not have any magolor in it
star crossed world you know what to do
dont worry
magolor will appear
if he doesnt, Im calling hal to personalize my copy
Chaos Elfilis is close enough I think
(also funny lor in New World language stuff)
either way he'll probably be in Past Adventures menu
well he already is but you know what I mean
And it's also the best selling one 
it is no longer frontpage, rip bozo (Air Riders is instead)
also, they still haven't updated the page for it (probably aren't going to at this rate...)
I am SO tempted to lose all my money on file 2
Unless regular Star coins still have value here
Kirby fans kinda feasting right now
So far I have like 18k star coins on my main save
Hopefully that's more than enough for unlocking figurines?
i have maxed out my star coin counter so hopefully i can get all of the new figures
Is the max coins like 99k?
Five digits yes
yes it's a lot of 9's
If you're talking about the figures in SCW those don't use base game coins
who's ready to grind!!!!!
There aren't grind rails in SCW, that's Air Riders silly
Welp I've about upgraded EVERY EVOLUTION AND ABILITY in File 1
Hammer glitch helped out today
Can we use them in scw
1 week and no info 
I just hope there's a "downgrade" setting tbh
i do wonder if rare stones will be used to upgrade abilities
since like you don't use star coins for the main currency of star crossed world
perhaps
there aren't any new upgrades so far
even if there were I'd think you'd use starry coins instead anything you'd use star coins for
why'd I only just now realize they're star coins and starry coins that's so silly
Hopefully there's a way to transfer star coins into starry coins
People who had played the SCW demo have confirmed that hammer super jump was patched, unless they somehow all failed at doing it
with amount of people testing it, including the speedrunners, yeah its most likely patched
you guys better start rate stone grinding
Speaking of, there’s a chance that the switch 2 compatibility update could arrive as early as later today, and that might patch out the hammer jumps as well, so remember to have auto updates off if you still need to grind rare stones!
Still on 1.0 and can’t update so not yet
I don't think compatability patches go as far as fix bugs...
it is harder at 60fps, and there's only been two people that tried
but very likely patched anyway yeah
I wish you could make the pop-up not appear at all
there's def more than 2 people, since I saw a lot of people that attended the demo for scw mentioned they failed
while the fps change might be possible, its probably patched LOL
regardless, Im so excited, even tho Im carried away by magolor in air riders so I barely talk in here now
ah, I had only seen two mention it at all
it was mostly fellow japanese folks,
Right now we’re going based off the previous switch 2 editions games that received compatibility updates (Zelda’s and Mario Party) and those received bug fixes as well, but it is still possible that Kirby won’t patch out any glitches
yeah
I love how air riders completely demolished scw news 😭
Jamboree's was also a week before Jamboree TV's release
still cant believe this game is releasing next week
TBH I HOPE IT DOESNT OVERSHADOW IT COMPLETELY...
doubt it overshadows it but it also did
because in general kirby fandom, people will care for both games
Honestly thank god cause I need something else to focus on until it releases next week lol
but also they dont own switch 2
more people will own s2 when air riders releases
so people will likely go for air riders more
since its gonna be a long standing game for party and competitive
holy shit! two cakes!
Wonder if it is patched on the Switch 1 version too or only on the Switch 2 version
Going to be interesting to see how speedruns are going to get split by console type
Poor Elfilin
We're hoping that it will only be a switch 2 version thing but it's likely it will be patched in both sadly
Don’t worry he’ll be in Air Riders
I’m still only sort of processing they gave us a gun copy ability
I don't think there's going to be any new copy abilities
Not even new blueprints
I don't think they want to lock out stuff that is needed for 100% completion in the main game behind the DLC
Unrelated, but the ears on your pfp almost perfectly match up with Magolor's, amazing 😭
WRONG CHAT 
Trust me he won't
Gorimondo will get in instead
i have no reason to believe in you
i feel like FL would have been released before Air Riders entered development...
Well the proposal was written during the Smash dlc cycle. But he said in his last video that he wasn't expecting to start dev until like April 2022, which is after FL came out if he was right
So yeah
Nothing Trailer! https://vxtwitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/1958212433496899804
Is that…the Beast Pack?!
Familiar foes take on fresh forms alongside new enemies in #Kirby and the Forgotten Land – #NintendoSwitch2 Edition + Star-Crossed World! https://t.co/S9bm8mPtr5
8 Days until Neichel
is that the... beast pack!? (shows non beast pack)
Beast Pack… interns
someone is getting fired today
cappy officially part of the beast pack
We have a FL rep then in Air Riders!
Imagine Clawroline over Elfilin
le super jump is le patched?
does it also include dragon fire cuz that was another way or is it only hammer
Here's your reason
negative reasons
I'm so glad they put the beast pack in Air Riders for Forgotten Land representation.
Imagine crystallized sillydoo
NUH UH I'M GETTING HIGH ON HOPIUM
Yeah honestly I don’t see what disqualifies Elfilin from getting in lol
It’s so funny how all of these guys minus Crysteye are Beast Pack affiliated
And then there’s Cappy
...anything new gang?
Nothing yet
No, it's pronounced "Crusty Eye"
You see the evil heart's been asleep for so long, the forbidden built up eye crust started chipping off into those buggers. Ironically, getting the stuff off them kills them
they need oxygen
I came up with it on the spot
I’m not good with names
Casually dropping fan-made names of unconfirmed characters during serious convos, huh?
I think we get atleast one as a reward for beating the game
Galacta sword 
Galacta Lance
I actually like how Galacta Knight has a completely different weapon and a shield for actual defending
If they ever do another new Knight I'd like for them to have something other than a sword too
Like maybe an Axe
hear FL got its update, no notes yet
no specifics at all lol
anyway update if you dare (for people who want to still use all glitches)
Oh nice
The jump?
…my thing isn’t loading </3
THANK GOD
Wait did they not bother patching the hammer glitch?
doesn't seem so
either it's only patched in SCW or they actually didn't patch it at all
Intetesting
It's quite literally a compatability patch for SCW
they could still change stuff in Switch 2 Edition itself (I mean we already know they did lol)
funny Point of Arrival
However, still uncertain what the "issues" in the patchnotes refer to if not the hammer jump
could just be easily encounterable softlocks
Maybe they fixed the whole deloading invisible wall thing in Battle of Blizzard Bridge
Lemme check something super important for those FREAKS OUT THERE...
either way Hammer Jump was main thing I was worried about so good to see that's still in
Or maybe the Arch Mouth clip
anyone want to check Chaos Elfilis duplication? or discarding ability to pass through loading zones?
or the Time Crash discard and not break after use thing
Ough did NOT realize this game forces you to fight all the bosses in Lab Discovera
I can’t test them because
Somehow I don’t have any data
Idk where my 100% file went
I ate it
NOOOO
it was too tasty...
Starman is in Air Riders cause SCW will feature the Starries merging into Starman and you ride on his back to take down the meteor's true form, trust
Pssst remind me again how the elfilis dupe works?
Do you have to just noclip to the first stairs?
Or do you have to go deeper?
Hammer glitch off the arena or hover jump all the way during deadly sun
PLEASE TELL ME IT'S NOT PATCHED
I'm fighting story elfilis rn
that is new patch, Hammer jump is saved
specifically hover jump to over the entrance yeah
Chaos Elfilis Core only
FUUUUUUCK
oh wait they updated the game?
yep
Not important
is it to include switch 2 edition of the game
I mean it is
Compatibility patch
the compatibility update yeah
it really is just switch 2 edition compatiblity i do wonder what the several issues fix means cuz it clearly didn't patch hammer super jump
ITS NOT PATCHED!!!
For now
😔
A hammer jump hater in 2025?
I don’t hate it 
Awww I thought they would skip the phantom metaknight cutscene by now
Still dreaming about Neichel
Guys sorry but I'm on a roll and i don't wanna compromise my timescore for this sorry
did they patch ability refresh
I'll do it on round 2
since you can do meta knight cup under 5 seconds with ability refresh
i'll update later and test out a bunch of glitches cuz so far the only confirmed one to not be patched is hammer super jump
Ok so like,
Oh thank god hammer jumps are still in
Gimme a moment but let me know if I did something wrong here
hammer jump lives… game is still good
That’s actually super based of HAL. They could have easily patched them like in the switch 2 version but they chose not to. They know ball.
i do wonder if the game will get updated in couple of days to include compatiblity for star crossed world on switch 2 only
it already did
Ok so I went down the stairs then came up...
did this update put it in there as well
this is the patch we're talking about lol
...FUCK ok
Elfilis can't clone itself if its still on stage
yeah it needs to be Core
keep charging your flips you can kill him before he goes into the whole rocks section
Oh FUCK
dodging is also crucial since it slows down the time and lets you charge flips more efficiently
-# it still. works.
Ok guys guess I'm going no abilities for this!!!
guessing non-Hammer method still works too? lol
First time fucking doing this glitch OHHHH GODDDD
yeah it's rough actually fighting them, especially whenever core(s) do their black hole
OH NO THE CUTSCENES ARE STOPPING ME DUUUCK
Oh ok that's that I suppose
Not gonna share it but I DID beat the boss
🔥 🔥 🔥
So I guess there’s really nothing super crazy—
We just have to wait for how much actual switch 2 edition will do
Welp at least I tried the dupe for science
It's still 30
ok
It’s not the actual switch 2 edition
This is a precautionary patch
Got it
The switch 2 edition will still release along with the actual Star crossed world 🙏
I’d say it’s safe to update this
How come i just noticed this now 
It only changed like few hours ago
It's now legal to bully yukkuri
It’s now legal to ban you Faye

Why hasn't it happened yet I've been waiting for 5 years
okay puts the Crown on his head again
OK IDK if this is even fair to bring up, but to those with 60fps mods... does that affect the Hammer Jump?
(Of course it must be noted that SCW could bring in another round of "fixes" and changes to the base-game...)
it makes them harder from what I heard
https://fixupx.com/kirbycafejp/status/1958006342544986466?s=46 looks refreshing
I can’t wait to try it
Is that deadass the rubber "mace" toy on a drink?
Will this appear in-game?
Not that we know of
Does Kirby Cafe sell a crystal-topped car cake?
Well it's gonna happen
Along with this drink
What if they had a gun
probably late to this, but see SCW has been added to 'Pick-Up Titles' section on official JP site, nice (not on History page yet though)
It comes out in a week I think
yes
oh hey Nintendo Dream issue should be out today right? wonder if anything new in there...
ah Dengeki too
nothing huge for dengeki, major stuff would just be the scw mouthful poster
yeah what I expected
I hope Magolor shows up for no reason
I will force magolor to show up
Honestly I feel like the entirety of stuff in the DLC will be full on original
Like, no returning characters
With the current info and the new miniboss being crystal-star themed, it just lines up
Like I will be very surprised if Galacta Knight shows up or if there's some connection with Star Allies
I still think it’s galacta but a new character is always welcome, obviously
it's definitely not GK for SCW at this point, at most he's in ZEX
Oh yeah there’s a new ultimate cup
funny evil dark star with dark power (that has been in new world multiple times, likely multiple ones) that something will be born from and will cause disaster
I got no theories for that, anything could happen
Actually, I do wonder how hard it’ll be
patch for updating FL to add support for the switch 2 edition is up
Follow these steps to update Kirby and the Forgotten Land, or review the software's update history.
we are in the endgame
So does having SCW pre-ordered do anything right this second?
I was about to buy it right now but I'm curious if I should update the game first
if you're in any region besides the americas, preload has started (meaning you can download it early, there's no way to play it early tho)
preload will start for the americas in a little more than an hour
besides that, no, pre-ordering right now does nothing
Thank you🙏🏿

I'll just do the update and the purchase one after the other
Oh my glob Gold points still work for this purchase
no
Guess this'll be the last thing I use them on
No
流星の影響で、この世界の音楽も変わっちゃったみたいだよ!
︀︀これは「ネイチェル草原」で流れる「はじまりの流星群」と「迷子のアライブルモール」。なんだかいつもと違う雰囲気だね!
︀︀最後の「流星のビーストバトル」は、結晶化した敵たちとの激しいバトルをイメージした曲だよ♪
︀︀#スターリーワールド
YOOOO
Oh sweet my predictions of a twitter post were true
So yeah every 2-3 days we're gonna be fed news
oh shit it's music!!!!
God I’m so happy we’re getting some soundtrack clips
ESPECIALLY FOR THE RUNNING THROUGH THE NEW WORLD REMIX
迷子のアライブルモール
FUCK ASS MUSIC TITLES
ITS WHAT I WANTED ALL ALONG!
LET'S GOOOOOOOO
Shout Outs to the Siivagunner Slider mix that did a full-on recreation of the first song
THIS IS SUCH A RTDL DX CODED NAME
Fuck binging Criminal Minds I’m putting the AirPods in rn
Ok guys let's look for any possible villain leitmotifs!
(impossible, hindsight-locked)
C-MINOR MALL
okay
Anyways I suspect like 3 more twitter posts before the release
that miniboss music is 100% dynamic
2 day intervals
because I absolutely didn't hear some of these parts in the gameplay before
The final post will be massive spoilers
I hope not
Do not forget
so busy with Air Riders I forgot to look...
This music is incredible
Forgotten Land's last pre-release trailer dead-ass showed us Forgo Dedede and a snippet of Fecto Forgo's cutscene
I love the guitars
It's godly
I really really love the guitars
someone ping me when a full soundtrack playlist is available, whenever that may be
I was going to wonder if the music note colors meant anything with composers and then the purple note showed up 
sad no lyrics with Alivel Mall but still banging
well
...what if there's more composers...
There has been new hires on the sound staff at HAL
could be new Hal labs staff I guess but at the same time somehow I'm doubtful of ishikawa doing the remix of Alivel mall
one of them spoke in the blog
I do think the Alivel Mall color is too pink to be Ishikawa
The fact they're already fully playing music here...
OH YEAH
ALIVEL MALL IS PEAK TOO
Gives me vibes of "We're running out of surface level information to show without slipping any more big surprises"
Gotta keep my expectations in check though
but it's probably not composer info on the note color
We'll never truly know what we're gonna get until release
The miniboss song is just so Ogasawara
I remember one time they posted the cutscene of Fecto Elfilis
But I'm pretty sure that was well after the game came out
Never forget the juice
Like maybe even over a year since release
and honestly I'd expect it to be either ando or shimooka that did the alivel mall remix
probably ando
But I can't remember what potentially spoilers things were tweeted before the game dropped
oh man
Actually I'm thinking I should absolutely downgrade my abilities before I start the DLC stuff
if they're supposed to be playable even that early, then I may as well play pretend
miniboss theme is pretty intense for a track that's going to last for 20 seconds lol
the original miniboss theme was already intense lol
OH WAIT
THE MUSIC NOTES
THEYRE COLOR
EE
D
FIRST SONG IS ANDO
SECOND IS IKEGAMI
wait wh
theres a 2nd purple one
but its a deeper purple
You think Ikegami came back to do music?
WHAT2WQWJJQQHH3R3THQHQSHQSJWD4G4G
oh man I forgot the color coding from Dream Buffet
Bro I legit teared up at that alive mall, love hearing one of my favorite tracks remixed
I do hope they further elaborate on the use of Starry Coins
i also don't think ikegami is back to work on music
like besides the fact that he got promoted out of music staff
Like that whole secondary currency is very much an elephant in the room ATM
he's only done the melody composition recently
no it isn't? its for buying EX figures
and not full arrangements
OH YEA HOW ARE WE FEELING ABOUT EVIL ALIVEL MALL
inb4 its sakai
ITS PEAK
i still dunno about sakai working on this
I'd rather wait for the sound test to be certain
like this a song heavily based on a specific motif
You do not just introduce another type of money only for it to be used for gacha figures...
because it implies Sakai did Alivel Mall
technically twice?
he was the lead sound on NiDL
idk what that means though
every song we get credits for there is just ishikawa
Oh yea funny remake with like no new music
what is happening first sakurai drops 7 songs from air riders to nintendo music and now hal casually drops several songs from star crossed world on twitter
i do think the thing i'm wondering about is why they decided to change the note symbol for the third one
like what does that mean
IM LOSING IT
does it mean two composers worked on it or..??
i don't think the thing you're wondering about is that tbh
i mean the other thing
other thing i'm wondering about
These songs are so otherworldly and ethereal they hit different, also that mini boss theme slaps HARD
nah I was just messing around
mmm
I'd rather wait for the sound test to be sure
I'm however extremely mad about one thing
I cannot seem to rip music anymore...
I need that alivel mall remix injected into my bloodstream ooof that's nice
I'm pissing and crying everyday that we won't be able to dump SCW much less datamine or mod it
aside from not accessing files, I wanted to try recording from the Switch 2 and I just can't
my PC refuses the Line-In
and that kind of angers me
I had that kind of patience before and now I can't
Why is this active
because new music
流星の影響で、この世界の音楽も変わっちゃったみたいだよ!
︀︀これは「ネイチェル草原」で流れる「はじまりの流星群」と「迷子のアライブルモール」。なんだかいつもと違う雰囲気だね!
︀︀最後の「流星のビーストバトル」は、結晶化した敵たちとの激しいバトルをイメージした曲だよ♪
︀︀#スターリーワールド

the second is pink colored, which is likely ishikawa
Maan
Nice
Ishikawa still cooking...
ando, ishikawa, and the menacing purple which usually goes to sakai but
it could also be a whole new composer
Gotta wait for the Switch 2 actual DLC update to see if it's patched there
double notes must mean something i need to put on my tinfoil hat
For reference in 2022 they tweeted out Running Through the New World with a yellow eigth note
https://vxtwitter.com/Kirby_JP/status/1505741798345682947
今回のディスカバ紀行は、冒険をいろどる音楽を紹介するよ!
これは「新世界をかけぬけて」っていう曲なんだ~!
この広い草原を冒険するカービィが目に浮かんで、ワクワクするよね!
他の場所では、どんな音色が聞こえるんだろう…?早く出発しようよ、カービィ!
#星のカービィディスカバリー https://t.co/EX0uE9EuFk
Seems the Switch 1 version is unpatched though
All three of these go so hard and they’re for the first two levels and a mini boss, I can’t even imagine how good the later themes or the final boss theme will be
like i'm legit wondering if the double note whatever its called, means more than one composer/arranger
I presume there are game kernel updates that is Switch 2 exclusive
yes
I do wonder if there are new composers this time around because of Jun leaving HAL
either a random sakai jumpscare, or new composer
regardless ando and ishikawa 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
not necessarily how it works tbh
does the symbol change just mean they want to emphasize the actiony change or???




