Time to talk about Neichel appearing in person in SCW again 
#Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)
tepid burrow
reef patrol
turbid nexus
Me when I reach the sky above Fallen Star Volcano and the Golden Wondog and Shadow Wondy animatronics appear
tepid burrow
I Have The interview as Hope for Neichel in SCW. Anyways cya tomorrow
turbid nexus
Cya
wise flame
I'll be assuming that the next 2-3 upcoming clips posted on Nintendo Today App will just be reuploads from Twitter
slim hornet
But I swear the designs of the final FINAL boss are sooooo peak
Void Terminaās design was fire
And the lore drop on KSA was INSANE
languid cobalt
How do you inprove on protection?
Hal: RED AND BLACK
tepid burrow
Basically the āimpending evilā in SCW:
tepid burrow
New video with no new information dropped on Twitter! https://vxtwitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/1955645519042109598
twin fog
2 weeks...
2 weeks until this game is out
1.5 weeks...
1.5 weeks until it breaks street date and we can watch the world's worst Kirby player stream SCW early... (Or more likely they stream the base game alongside SCW b/c they've never played FL before)
heady ravine
lol true
rustic crow
Regardless of how feasible they would be or what ability they'd bring with them, if you could choose around 5 minibosses from Kirby's history into the next 3D Kirby, which ones would you choose?
heady ravine
or watch a new player try entering scw and get confused about the difficulty
heady ravine
Regardless of how feasible they would be or what ability they'd bring with them,...
batafire, box boxer, vividria,bugzzy, poppy bros sr
twin fog
I'm obviously just gonna choose 5 random mid-bosses that have never appeared in 3D so we can get 3D models of more things
vagrant hound
Whatever, go, Tedhaun
twin fog
So I guess my choices would be Poppy Bros. Sr., Mr. Tick Tock, Efreeti, Waiu, and uhhhhh sure Jumper Shoot, Haboki, or Tedhaun idgaf
obtuse berry
Bringing back Box Boxer where he keeps his grab hitbox throughout the entire fight
toxic delta
still, i dont see what else they could reveal at this point
they could definitely like update the non-JP sites at least lmao
or release (kiosk) demo
wise flame
A pre-release demo would be neat
(It's just the same as the base demo but with 1 SCW level)
rustic crow
Regardless of how feasible they would be or what ability they'd bring with them,...
Fire Lions/Twin Fire Lions
Poppy Broe Sr
Bugzzy
Telepathos
Miasmoros
languid cobalt
Fire Lions/Twin Fire Lions
Poppy Broe Sr
Bugzzy
Telepathos
Miasmoros
Im genuinely shocked how long poppy bros sr has been absent from the mainline kirby games
twin fog
He was arrested and is doing time in federal prison
HAL will not invite him back once he's released at this point
tepid burrow
Free Poppy Bros Sr
turbid nexus
Im genuinely shocked how long poppy bros sr has been absent from the mainline ki...
If SA had like
More than 5 mid bosses I guarantee you he wouldāve been there
sand patrol
is there any version of the key art without the logo
toxic delta
you mean the SCW one? US site has this (first image)
stuff like older version of the JP site had similar but with border and cropped, though little larger (see the second image)
arctic gale
I ought to update my server banner to that lols
Or uh profile banner
They dont let me do that first one yet
sand patrol
stole my idea
high widget
2 weeks...
2 weeks until this game is out
1.5 weeks...
1.5 weeks until it breaks...
how does an update break street date
lean grove
how does an update break street date
it has a physical release with the update on the card
high widget
oh it does
gleaming stream
Im genuinely shocked how long poppy bros sr has been absent from the mainline ki...
Unfortunately, he died due to Kirby using the crash ability
turbid nexus
Apparently this one is Star Guide Waddle Dee
He tells you about stages in Star-Crossed World you havenāt cleared yet
vagrant hound
WATASHI
wise flame
Yeah uh what is their purpose??
turbid nexus
Iām getting this from Google Translate though so I donāt fully know lol
wise flame
"Woah Kirby you forgot a level"
olive coral
no idea
tribal igloo
https://FxTWITTER.com/Kirby_JP/status/1955826930814709826
WHATWHATWHAR
wise flame
Like does this imply there are hidden stages or like...
olive coral
Apparently this one is Star Guide Waddle Dee
He tells you about stages in Star-C...
does that mean there are star crossed levels we have to find????????????????
wise flame
What a weird fellow
olive coral
extremely
wise flame
I mean I was expecting SCW's levels to pop in as you play along, like base game...
turbid nexus
I guess?
I feel like it works like the Treasure Road stages where you have to find hidden ones but honestly I doubt it
olive coral
ARE WE GETTING MORE CONTENT???????????????
olive coral
can someone who doesn't mind the spoilers ping me when the spoilers drop???
I plan to kick my mom out of her room so i can experience this
AGAIN
ocean ingot
"Myefilin's Tiscal Journey"
Great job google lens, great job
vagrant hound
https://FxTWITTER.com/Kirby_JP/status/1955826930814709826
Rumor says he likes to collect sparkly coin and figure.
āStar Guide Waddle Deeā who tags along with him will tell about the āStar-Crossed Worldā stages that havenāt been cleared yet!```
green crater
I would guess the new lil one maybe gives hints to secrets in the levels then
tacit saffron
legend of the meteor
lean grove
i think honestly its just there in case you aren't aware that the level select isn't a thing
ocean ingot
Astronomer Dee telling us to save the Starries........
Kirby, help me collect the Energy Spheres and Part Spheres to fix the Lor!
lean grove
or maybe the level select doesn't work for SCW idk
idk how many you unlock all at once
tacit saffron
or maybe the level select doesn't work for SCW idk
that would be very weird for HAL to do
arctic gale
The legend..
vagrant hound
```He is āAstronomer Waddle Deeā who does research on the legend of the meteor. ...
Dialogue:
Astronomer Waddle Dee āAt this rate, the star of darkness will get revived. Please, take care of the Starries!ā
Star Guide Waddle Dee āI found a Starry stage that Kirby-san hasnāt cleared yet!ā```Revived...
vagrant hound
Dark Nebula is returning tomorrow
twin fog
Kirby collecting all the sealing Starries knowing full well he's going to allow the star of darkness to resurrect to its true form so that he can have an epic final fight
tacit saffron
Kirby collecting all the sealing Starries knowing full well he's going to allow ...
Kirby tapping his inner Goku
twin fog
Unironically though Kirby series is very good about that not happening except for Star Allies where Kirby just stands there and stares as Hyness slowly limps towards the Jamba Heart to slowly throw the three mages and himself inside
Like maybe you could argue they should've like punched Magolor in the face as he was monologuing before he put the crown on but like they probably just didn't realize he was betraying them until that point
vagrant hound
I wish I can punch Magolor in the faceā¦
Thinking about it, I could just have Magolor png on the TV and punch him that way
ocean ingot
Or Magolor plush...
vagrant hound
Right right
tacit saffron
Kirby's watching you
turbid nexus
Kirby collecting all the sealing Starries knowing full well he's going to allow ...
Iām betting we get a cutscene before the final act where they successfully seal the meteor away but uh oh something went wrong and the meteor broke free letās go after it
Then theyāll explain in a figurine that it was able to break out because it built up power while Kirby and Elfilin were collecting the Starries lol
tacit saffron
maybe feeding off the creatures via empowering them
not unlike Fecto Forgo trying to feed off the Beast Pack
turbid nexus
maybe feeding off the creatures via empowering them
The Dark Star and Awoofy
vagrant hound
MAGOLORā¦
Also funny enough, half of the reply section to the new tweet is about āI think heās going to betray Kirbyā āMagolor and Marx found a new victim to be suspected as a traitorā
Elfilin and Starries and Astronomer Dee, on their way getting suspected
All thanks toā¦ mainly Magolor
āAstronomer Dee looks like heās going to suddenly say Bravo Bravo at the end of the gameā
turbid nexus
Me when I plant the seeds of doubt onto my friend to make him distrustful of everyone
twin fog
"Haha Kirby I've betrayed you"
Kirby fans in 1993 reaching the end of MWW:
I did not mean to type 1993
vagrant hound
Bro live in the pastā¦.
shrewd oracle
2 weeks
twin fog
King where are the 2 week tranquilizers again I need em
shrewd oracle
š 
turbid nexus
Why does it have to release near the end of the month
Couldnāt it be like
Next week
Oh wait is that DragxDrive week or
shrewd oracle
Next week is chibi robo week
turbid nexus
Thats today
Lmao??????
twin fog
I once played a demo of chibi robo in a store as a kid
I don't know why but that was one of the scariest things in my life
Something about chibi robo just really scared me
shrewd oracle
When you're a kid the weirdest shit can scare you sometimes
spiral void
waow
shrewd oracle
Although tbh ive literally never seen gameplay of chibi robo before the nso trailer
I don't think anything in kirby ever scared me as a kid at least lol
twin fog
All I know is funny robot runs around holding a plug above his head that's connected to him
I watched a movie called Mirrors or something as a kid that made me scared of mirrors for like a week lol
I honestly don't remember if a game ever scared me as a kid
I think like
easter eggs as a concept in general used to scare me for some reason
Like I'd be like 'this is so fucking cool' but then for some reason I'd be a paranoid wreck whenever I thought about easter eggs too much
Especially with like spoopy ones
tacit saffron
MAGOLORā¦
everyone losing themselves due to darkness
ancient stuff + play around with = darkness corrupts you
Corrupted Starries?
these children trying to be like Landia
tardy mortar
https://FxTWITTER.com/Kirby_JP/status/1955826930814709826
it's him
wise flame
I hope this new fellow has a secondary purpose
Because if all they do is just remind me of a level that I missed, then that sure is... a purpose I guess?
What, I'm not gonna miss a single starry level, how hard could that be-
tacit saffron
https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-searching-gif-25603936
Kirby & the Amazing Mirror
late girder
why is wanya looking at the sun in the middle of the day with a spyglass
||was too lazy to add goku sorry š||
tacit saffron
because the sun is a star too
late girder
its bad for their eyes tho pls be safe astronomer waddle dee
high widget
He is Bird Watching.
twin fog
Hes aura farming
vagrant hound
Iām a huge sucker for ććć waddle dee so Iām screaming so hard rn still Oughhhhh I love you astronomer dee, youāre my fav waddle dee right next to souvenir dee
high widget
Being a Kirby fan (and also a UT/DR fan) and looking at fanart for both IPs is probably the best way to learn how to draw characters aura farming
limpid finch
someone pointed out the thing in whatever this fuckin shit is looks suspiciously like fecto forgo
yall probably noticed it already tbh but this is news to me LOL
tacit saffron
heart shaped
tacit saffron
prunsel
wise flame
Totally, the veins, the red, all repunsel!
limpid finch
tbh from this angle it DOES somewhat explain why the Starries look somewhat like Fecto Elfilis...
but it doesnt explain the crystals at ALL
wise flame
Yep they ensnared republican with the trees from snowdin
green crater
someone pointed out the thing in whatever this fuckin shit is looks suspiciously...
Kirby: Did you eat Fecto Forgo?
Suspiciously Forgo shaped meteor:
wise flame
but it doesnt explain the crystals at ALL
We're told the crystals are supposed to contain the heart...
green crater
I dunno, doesn't work as well with meteors
wise flame
...But IDK something feels sus about all this
Like, who is the one telling us about this?
Not the starries that's for sure
limpid finch
also looking at it a bit closer the starries do also seem to resemble the coral here but that's more than likely a coincidence imo
wise flame
I swear if we're doing a fountain of dreams again-
limpid finch
though the position of the... antlers? things??? on their head is very fecto elfilis
wise flame
"Yay we've fixed the thing!"
Haha I am now fixed I can kill everyone thanks bye!
limpid finch
not to mention this entire shot feels VERY much like the battle arena for GK in ssu
limpid finch
the way the giant rock formations curve inwards especially
also i may be stretching but...
arent the colors of this crystal thing in the center very galacta knight-esque??
i think they are at least
wise flame
Ugh nevermind I thought I saw something-
wise flame
For a moment I thought I saw a glimpse of the "true-er form" of... whatever's in the *Crystallized heart
But no it's just colors
calm gorge
green crater
Isn't there just a button for "jump to present"?
wise flame
Yeah but it blends a bit into the background
torn vapor
the way the giant rock formations curve inwards especially
Imagine we get a soul forgo fight and after beating them they are about to transform into a more elfilis like form only for galacta knight to burst out of their body and kill them
limpid finch
YEAHHHHHH
torn vapor
Therefore both fulfilling what kirby fans want
A soul forgo fight and a canon galacta battle
I just realized
Gk being in scw is just the kirby fan equivalent to k roll being in bananza copium
limpid finch
Gk being in scw is just the kirby fan equivalent to k roll being in bananza copi...
||at least the Kopium paid off~||
torn vapor
Yea
high widget
(spoilers for dk bananza)
sand patrol
Still think galacta knight would be the lamest outcome
I think it just becomes too formulaic at some point
lean grove
while I can see the connection with the Starries having time-travel and crystal sealing powers, I feel like Galacta Knight is kinda someone you just save for a new game without Morpho Knight already fulfilling the role
at best, I expect allusions to his powers in the final boss battle in the same way that Void Termina alludes to dark matter and the master crown
sand patrol
I think doing another knight fight in a game that already had one would be just be boring
high widget
I think doing another knight fight in a game that already had one would be just ...
it has 3
sand patrol
Also ngl I barely find morpho interesting
So galacta does nothing for me
Like he is a hero of yore
Cool idc
In general SA ambiguous lore dies nothing for me at all in just find it to be flavor at best
wild rune
Oh, that's people calling Astronomer Dee a traitor in my feed
high widget
your feed sucks
sand patrol
What did astronomer waddle dee do
limpid finch
Oh, that's people calling Astronomer Dee a traitor in my feed
HUH???
WE'RE NOT DOING THIS AGAIN!
sand patrol
Can someone explain
limpid finch
GOD LIKE. DO YOU GUYS REMEMBER EVERYONE CALLING ELFILIN A DAMN TRAITOR. ONLY TWO CHARACTERS HAVE BETRAYED KIRBY AFTER SETTING HIM UP. ONLY ONE IS A "MODERN" CHARACTER.
MORE CHARACTERS HAVE SWITCHED SIDES TO JOIN KIRBY INSTEAD BRO
FUCKING HELL NOT EVERY CUTE ALLY IS AN IMMEDIATE TRAITOR IN THE MAKING 
FUCKING BANDANA WADDLE DEE HAS ALLIED WITH KIRBY AFTER BEING AN ENEMY IN SSU
rocky berry
yo relax
limpid finch
nah nah nah lemme have this
rocky berry
this is not worth getting worked over
limpid finch
if modern kirby fans existed back in the classic days where we had characters like ribbon (VERY OBVIOUSLY AN ALLY) and gooey, oh my god this fandom would be 999x more insufferable
limpid finch
i know i know
however. and hear me out on this. ok? this may seem absolutely ludicrous but
i find it really annoying
also every single waddle dee npc in forgotten land is an ally too, so why are we singling out astronomer waddle dee??
he literally just got NAMED and people are sus already?? how the actual hell lmao
sand patrol
Memes
rustic crow
Kirby will betray the player one of these days when he reveals he actually LOVES caterpillars
high widget
Kirby after the end of the first world and he goes home to his house and to his bedroom and then a cutscene happens where they get out of bed and pull out a knife and look at the player with a smile
this is of course after he tears out what looks like the Friend Heart out of his body and throws it into a gacha capsule, of course
random tendon
WATASHI WADDLE DEE
WATASHI WADDLE DEE
toxic delta
not the first one right? just not the most common
Commentator and Weapons-Shop uses it right
toxic delta
when will they make atashi Dee....
twin fog
When will they make wagahai dee
high widget
when it wears a cat headband
vagrant hound
Oh yeah minion Dee also is Watashi I forgor
toxic delta
When will they make wagahai dee
Old Waddle Dee....
vagrant hound
Honestly some of these Watashi Dee are probably using Watashi because theyāre working
Itās extremely common to have 2 first person, so thereās a chance these Dee uses Watashi, and possibly boku if theyāre not working
(Like I use Watashi at work but not when Iām off the clock)
Wise Dee and Astronomer Dee does look like they use Watashi 24/7 though
sterile quartz
Gk being in scw is just the kirby fan equivalent to k roll being in bananza copi...
spoilers ||it's not Kopium they won||
turbid nexus
I mean it kind of was at times
tepid burrow
Looks like SCW is in the latest Nintendo Dream! https://vxtwitter.com/Stealth40k/status/1955933249659920661
sterile quartz
~~I mean it kind of was at times~~
yes but ||in the end it was real. If kopium is real then will galactium be real||
toxic delta
neat 'multi-case' (https://www.ndw.jp/nd2510-377/)
toxic delta
spoilers ||it's not Kopium they won||
really this is really more the equivalent of Epilogue pre-release
remember when people thought GK or Morpho were gonna be in that. lmao
(really it's even more unlikely for even GK to be in SCW than he was was for Epilogue at this point, considering the whole plot; at most he'll be in ZEX)
random tendon
not the first one right? just not the most common
yeah most use boku
sterile quartz
(really it's even more unlikely for even GK to be in SCW than he was was for Epi...
I mean i'd argue epilogue gk was less likely
random tendon
Itās extremely common to have 2 first person, so thereās a chance these Dee uses...
oh cool sometimes I forget japanese pronouns are like that
sterile quartz
epilogue morpho was possible but gk was already elsewhere in the game
with scw there's some clear homages to gk that would be rather odd if he just had no involvement
why do the enemies (in their armored forms) wear masks and have horns resembling the horned mask
why does fallen-star volcano resemble gk's battle arena in ssu
toxic delta
I mean i'd argue epilogue gk was less likely
tbf part of the argument was that he'd be relocated/the fight would be replaced
sterile quartz
why does that one starry description line up with how GK's crystal works
im not even 100% on the meteor being him anymore but him not being here at all would be very odd
toxic delta
with scw there's some clear homages to gk that would be rather odd if he just ha...
tbf lot of games have these kinds of things
random tendon
I am still on boat that we will get vague allusions to GK but not really a GK fight
though I will say if we do get a GK fight I expect it as an extra in the new coloseum not like as the final boss of SCW
sterile quartz
tbf part of the argument was that he'd be relocated/the fight would be replaced
yes but that was unlikely
tepid burrow
Imagine Fecto Elfilis Soul
toxic delta
tbf lot of games have these kinds of things
why would (insert things here) have Dark Matter-esque elements if Dark Matter wasn't involved
sterile quartz
Imagine Fecto Elfilis Soul
we already got that with Chaos-Elfilis
toxic delta
why would (insert things here) have Dark Matter-esque elements if Dark Matter wa...
see Star Allies
sterile quartz
why would (insert things here) have Dark Matter-esque elements if Dark Matter wa...
isn't it generally usually agreed that dark matter was involved somehow
random tendon
why would (insert things here) have Dark Matter-esque elements if Dark Matter wa...
yeah kirby loves doing that
funny vague connextions
toxic delta
~~see Star Allies~~
and here, actually
twin fog
We got the funny konton now we will get the funny seitan for elfilis
sterile quartz
~~see Star Allies~~
didn't a jp thing state that hyness sacrificed dark matters to the jamba heart or something
toxic delta
and here, actually
though moreso on the Dark Nebula-side
toxic delta
didn't a jp thing state that hyness sacrificed dark matters to the jamba heart o...
what? no
twin fog
Hyness sacrificed master crowns to the jamba heart
sterile quartz
though moreso on the Dark Nebula-side
we don't know the english name
the dark star thing isn't a dark nebula reference as dark nebula isnt called that in jp
twin fog
dark nebula is made of dark stars in JP
random tendon
hyness sacrificed the person reading this to the jamba heart
tepid burrow
hyness sacrificed the person reading this to the jamba heart
Hello from the Jamba Heart!
toxic delta
Dark Star form HAS no English name
it might get one via Dream Land Directory, but we aren't that far yet
twin fog
the dedede that hyness sacrificed to the jamba heart
sterile quartz
Hyness sacrificed master crowns to the jamba heart
is it plausible that the master crown not being dark matter was somehow a rewrite
sterile quartz
Dark Star form HAS no English name
i know but im saying dark nebula isnt the jp name of dark nebula
and this there is no connection in jp
toxic delta
Dark Star is again, a JP name
twin fog
is it plausible that the master crown not being dark matter was somehow a rewrit...
how do you rewrite something that was never written to begin with
sterile quartz
Dark Star is again, a JP name
yes
please reread what i am saying
toxic delta
Dark Star is again, a JP name
this is not about English, English has nothing to do with this
sterile quartz
i am saying that dark nebula is not the japanese name of the boss
twin fog
No one is talking about the name dark nebula
sterile quartz
i am saying we should correspond the japanese name of the meteor with the japanese name of dark nebula
twin fog
Dark Zero is made of things called Dark Stars
sterile quartz
and realize they aren't connected
toxic delta
well yeah Dark Star is the name of the non-boss form duh
sterile quartz
Dark Zero
Dark Star
sterile quartz
well yeah Dark Star is the name of the non-boss form duh
where in the files?
toxic delta
Dark Zero is made of things called Dark Stars
moreso it's the form beforehand but yeah
sterile quartz
where it's likely called that because
random tendon
dark star from mario & luigi no way
sterile quartz
well
it's a black and purple reskin of the warpstar
toxic delta
where in the files?
it's been given multiple times, like in guidebooks and Character Encyclopedia
it's not a filename
random tendon
I thought kirby had invented stars
toxic delta
it's been given multiple times, like in guidebooks and Character Encyclopedia
it...
also you do realize the theory we're talking about originated more in JP community right
twin fog
Anyway the point is
the meteor is going to be sectonia
toxic delta
~~also you do realize the theory we're talking about originated more in JP commu...
you also realize I'm more poking at it right lmao
random tendon
Anyway the point is
the meteor is going to be sectonia
I thought it was daroach
twin fog
Yea its weird but they scrapped the daroach connections last minute
sterile quartz
it's been given multiple times, like in guidebooks and Character Encyclopedia
it...
it's still a generic thing
sterile quartz
how do you rewrite something that was never written to begin with
literally zero's eye
toxic delta
it's still a generic thing
and so is like majority of the GK connections LMAO
twin fog
literally zero's eye
And how was that rewritten, Magolor still has an eye
random tendon
I don't even know the topic anymore
sterile quartz
and so is like majority of the GK connections LMAO
(one of them)
toxic delta
and so is like majority of the GK connections LMAO
and motifs being used in general
sterile quartz
there's like uh
the volcano looks way too similar to gk's arena
in ssu
that was like
never used anywhere else
and the starry description
and the enemies armored forms slightly resembling him (though this is probably the weakest of the bigger pieces of evidence)
vagrant hound
Looks like SCW is in the latest Nintendo Dream! https://vxtwitter.com/Stealth40k...
Gonna preorder them soon
sterile quartz
and the starry description
that seems to very much match how gk's crystal works
even if the meteor isnt gk's seal verbatim it feels like it's informing us of the mechanics of gk's seal
random tendon
like we've mentioned kirby has historically done similar things but not confirmed like the new world civilization and the connection to the ancients
same with star allies and hyness
toxic delta
the volcano looks way too similar to gk's arena
we already have evidence the final fight isn't even there anyway
but also volcanos sort of tend to do this
and that's like, the only thing it has going for it to begin with (and even it isn't like, super-direct rn)
random tendon
before release everyone was like "omg they WILL connect these for sure there's no way it's so similar"
and we were all left with vague connections as usual
toxic delta
like we've mentioned kirby has historically done similar things but not confirme...
and yeah
and Dimension Hole stuff
sterile quartz
like we've mentioned kirby has historically done similar things but not confirme...
on your logic meta knight isnt a kirby
random tendon
I mean yeah that's not confirmed
sterile quartz
we already have evidence the final fight isn't even there anyway
but also volcan...
these don't actually look that similar
while the gk one does
sterile quartz
I mean yeah that's not confirmed
"it's not 100% confirmed therefore it's false and should be thrown away!"
random tendon
I don't personally think MK is same species as kirby but connected in some mysterious way
random tendon
"it's not 100% confirmed therefore it's false and should be thrown away!"
who said that
sterile quartz
who said that
it feels like how this place thinks sometimes
twin fog
I think the moment they made Galacta Knight that Meta Knight being the same species as Kirby makes very little sense
sterile quartz
I think the moment they made Galacta Knight that Meta Knight being the same spec...
i mean nothing prevents it
couldn't gk also be the same thing just from the past
twin fog
Like Kirby just has a species where every other member just loves being swordfighters
toxic delta
I think GK and MK are different species(?) but MK and Kirby are the same
sterile quartz
it feels like how this place thinks sometimes
it's the vibe i get
random tendon
anyway the topic at hand is mostly that there's no guarantee GK will be in despite the similarities people find
I would keep your expectations in check
sterile quartz
I think GK and MK are different species(?) but MK and Kirby are the same
i think gk, mk, and kirby are the same, but morpho is different
toxic delta
I think GK and MK are different species(?) but MK and Kirby are the same
(though they have fucked with things a little yeah, rip MK blushes)
toxic delta
anyway the topic at hand is mostly that there's no guarantee GK will be in despi...
yeah
plus keep in mind bit of the meteor stuff just straight-up contradicts already
sterile quartz
anyway the topic at hand is mostly that there's no guarantee GK will be in despi...
i agree and i literally don't think it's 100% and consider other options (Mainly "another member of elfilis's species" theory)
I just feel like this server is trying to outright deny the connections by every means needed
sterile quartz
plus keep in mind bit of the meteor stuff just straight-up contradicts already
how?
random tendon
i agree and i literally don't think it's 100% and consider other options (Mainly...
well you're getting the wrong impression then
toxic delta
how?
well for one it's radiating the power of darkness, is evil and the shape isn't really fit for containing a crystal of that shape
vagrant hound
sorry for the delay sob I posted the translation
vagrant hound
but
sterile quartz
well for one it's radiating the power of darkness, is *evil* and the shape isn't...
when i was bringing up gk's meteor connection i didnt say gk was the meteor verbatim
vagrant hound
nintendo today
sterile quartz
i was saying the meteor seal AND gk's seal used the same or at least similar mechanisms
toxic delta
well for one it's radiating the power of darkness, is *evil* and the shape isn't...
and that's sort of the main villain too
yeah that's different from GK appearing lol
sterile quartz
i was saying the meteor seal AND gk's seal used the same or at least similar mec...
like even if gk isnt there at all not even as a secret boss
vagrant hound
okay preordered nintendo dreams
sterile quartz
well
toxic delta
yeah that's different from GK appearing lol
no one doubts there might be connections
sterile quartz
i feel like the meteor seal and gk's crystal being similar is an intended connection we are supposed to draw on a greater level
im just saying it'd be odd to give us a gk loredrop in a game where he doesnt even show up
at least in star allies he showed up for like a few seconds
toxic delta
it'd be odd to give Lor a loredrop where it doesn't even show up
sterile quartz
~~it'd be odd to give Lor a loredrop where it doesn't even show up~~
there was nothing about the lor specifically in base fl?
toxic delta
~~it'd be odd to give Lor a loredrop where it doesn't even show up~~
x2, almost
toxic delta
there was nothing about the lor specifically in base fl?
I mean that's sort of the thing with Dimension Hole stuff (+language connections in both SA and FL)
I assume it'd more be that
sterile quartz
I mean that's sort of the thing with Dimension Hole stuff (+language connections...
that seems more "halcandrans" in general
rather than JUST the lor starcutter
sure the lor is included but it's all of the ancient stuff not just that
toxic delta
I mean that's sort of the thing with Dimension Hole stuff (+language connections...
though language connections also cover stuff like
Drawcia/Paintra/Claycia and Adeleine
and even Void
toxic delta
that seems more "halcandrans" in general
tbf not sure we've even seen an Halcandra-Jambastion ancient artifact directly do that besides Lor and maybe Master Crown (though latter definitely not clearly at the time)
sterile quartz
well you're getting the wrong impression then
well then why does every single time someone (at least me) speculates even the chance of it being gk the people here seem to deny the connections even exist by trying as hard as they can to genercize it, even when the things they are trying to compare arent that similar
toxic delta
tbf not sure we've even seen an Halcandra-Jambastion ancient artifact directly d...
(no Hyness does not count as an ancient artifact)
sterile quartz
tbf not sure we've even seen an Halcandra-Jambastion ancient artifact directly d...
Novas (kind of)
also arguably the star rods (though they connect to forgo in a different way ig)
toxic delta
no Dimension Holes (besides Star Dream but not counting it)
sterile quartz
no Dimension Holes (besides Star Dream but not counting it)
why not
toxic delta
due to more recent nature and not being able to tell if Nova (and the like) did indeed have it for sure (Star Dream using ton of different ones doesn't help with that)
is likely, but it isn't direct
toxic delta
guessing JP Twitter one again?
vagrant hound
yes
toxic delta
though language connections also cover stuff like
Drawcia/Paintra/Claycia and A...
anyway, do hope we get more New World language because I love this stuff
please new song with lyrics
turbid nexus
Nothing special <:Kapar:749732683852283965>
sand patrol
well then why does every single time someone (at least me) speculates even the c...
Cause the connections are just very surface level
velvet yacht
high widget
what if its actually Light Star
turbid nexus
high widget
mamma mia
wise flame
The last time a guy tells us to stop an impending fate, he turned out to be a fool
Will the astronomer be the fool?
(No I do not think he will be evil secretly, but I do suspect the entire adventure is all over a misunderstanding of sorts)
turbid nexus
Neat that the Waddle Dees hang out at the volcano too
Am curious to why the meteor is a bit crystallized
Wonder after you complete each Starry Stage in a world, thereās a cutscene where the meteor starts to slowly get sealed
vagrant hound
(they're all gonna get obsorbed and die)
turbid nexus
We gotta get Dedede
toxic delta
Neat that the Waddle Dees hang out at the volcano too
we already saw this in one of the other pics, but good to have another
tacit saffron
Kirby stop running away!
btw Wild Bonkers is looking even better with the crystal
agree or disagree
wise flame
Any variation is good
Ok so the volcano continues to haunt me
Even with only 2 weeks until release, I'm like... what do you actually do
tacit saffron
act as a Volcano
risen up from the sea
whether that implies the volcano was always there is up for future debate
tepid burrow
Neat that the Waddle Dees hang out at the volcano too
Looks like it is the same heart!
wise flame
There's gotta be some sort of settlement or something here
toxic delta
oh hey I'm day or two late but Korean site finally opened lol https://www.nintendo.com/kr/games/switch2/arzga/index.html
(similar content as JP one, of course)
wise flame
Just a thought, I'm not sure if I already said this or not but...
...With how crystals are clearly augumenting things it touches, perhaps we would be getting a lot of "evolutions"... or like some sort of toggle-able feature that terrastilizes existing evolutions?
tacit saffron
whether that implies the volcano was always there is up for future debate
anywho it doesn't seem to be an active one
hence why it's currently safe for them to be there
random tendon
Neat that the Waddle Dees hang out at the volcano too
oh cool so it really is a hub
rustic crow
Even with only 2 weeks until release, I'm like... *what do you actually do*
It's Groudon's crib
tacit saffron
if it's another hub they should add new codes and hide them somewhere
twin fog
oh cool so it really is a hub
Do you think astronomer will just like
Hop on the warpstar with you whenever you swap between town and island or is he just only at one or the other at different points
toxic delta
just magically teleport 
(tbh wouldn't be surprised if it was just not explained/basically both at once)
wise flame
I suspect the volcano consists of two "areas":
- Some sort of encampment near the coast
- The big fucking scary heart
gleaming stream
He can fly
gleaming stream
https://fxtwitter.com/famitsu/status/1955838165572575252?s=46&t=KjgI8a61BxDiubZJ...
Oh so the heart keeps getting crystallized with the more starries you find(?)
Why are waddle dees there lol
sand patrol
Prolly just waddle dees you rescue
wise flame
They just be leaving town
gleaming stream
Tourist spot
sand patrol
Its just another hub area
wise flame
sometimes they get bored of being safe, so they start finding thrills
Often it's by exploring mostly untouched regions of the lands
They only find ruins, but occaisonally, they do find cracks in reality
turbid nexus
Really hope the Beast Pack show up on Fallen Star Volcano as NPCs too
tacit saffron
WDT is simply too crowded
sand patrol
Really hope the Beast Pack show up on Fallen Star Volcano as NPCs too
Would be cool to put sillydillo there cause he likes collecting things
sand patrol
Im still kinda iffy on this being a subsequent addition rather then post game
Just like how well structured the game is
So throwing in another route might break it
Though I suppose its still optinal when you do it
tacit saffron
they simply couldn't fit another portal into WDT
otherwise that'd be weird and repetitive
lean grove
Im still kinda iffy on this being a subsequent addition rather then post game
It probably ends up being that you need to complete the main story to even complete the side story anyway
sand patrol
I mean
I didn't say put another portal there you could just have the island show up after the story is completed
lean grove
since at minimum you need to unlock redgar to unlock the last few stages, it wouldn't surprise me if they went further and required you to beat the main game final boss to unlock the actual final stages
sand patrol
I think story wise it would be weird that you could just say fuck elfilin and do the meteor side quests
tacit saffron
wants him to be a focus even if its no longer about him SCW wise
sand patrol
wants him to be a focus even if its no longer about him SCW wise
That's the secret
It is about him
His species
sand patrol
If you think about it
The main lore or backstory of FL was basically the world itself
tacit saffron
space
sand patrol
Elfilis as an entity is still pretty mysterious
tacit saffron
well
space invader
FL in 1978
more so how were they able to contain such a creature
that's more of a mystery than needing to know where such creature came from
or why they can split themselves and such
sand patrol
I suppose
But i saw it more as an explanation fir the state of the world
Why and how the people left
tacit saffron
they needed a weapon of some kind to bring said creature down so they can exploit out of self goals
whoever the people were they were very keen on leaving said planet behind
high widget
Neat that the Waddle Dees hang out at the volcano too
why ARE they there.
do they care about their life.
turbid nexus
Guess they wanted to see what was up with it too
tacit saffron
whoever the people were they were very keen on leaving said planet behind
to them it was a prison of freedom
high widget
and then they all get possessed by evil or something
toxic delta
finally we get to fight Waddle Dees-
tacit saffron
naughty Waddle Dees
tacit saffron
whoever the people were they were very keen on leaving said planet behind
for the stars
however the stars are now invading
violet kiln
Hey, so does anyone know if the āDark Starā has the same Japanese name as the Kirby 64 area?
turbid nexus
finally we get to fight Waddle Dees-
Waddle Dee Army boss fight
Itās like the Meta Knightsā fights in NiDL and SSU where each Waddle Dee you defeat chips away their health bar
toxic delta
Hey, so does anyone know if the āDark Starā has the same Japanese name as the Ki...
no
64 Dark Star is Final Star
violet kiln
Ohhh good to know
toxic delta
64 Dark Star is Final Star
éć®ę doesn't match anything one-to-one rn pretty sure
there is Dark Nebula's pre-fight star form ćć¼ćÆć¹ćæć¼ ('Dark Star') but I expect vague connection at most
and Jamba Heart original concept was ćć¼ćÆćć¹ć¹ćæć¼ ('Darkness Star'), but of course that's just an old concept
turbid nexus
Yeah at this point Iām thinking this is just a new antagonist entirely lol
tacit saffron
well still
turbid nexus
Honestly hope itās not related to Forgo at least
I like seeing new guys
tacit saffron
they can be connected via the dark (matter)
toxic delta
Yeah at this point Iām thinking this is just a new antagonist entirely lol
yeah probably Forgo/Elfilis species member or original with some possible (perhaps vague) connections
tacit saffron
new mouthful mode phase
instead of truck it's plane or powerful version of one of the newbies
vagrant hound
Kirby fans when they see a heart and star (it gotta be a references to a old stuff ) (half of the franchise has heart and star in it since the beginning of its time)
Anyways dark nebula soon
tacit saffron
if plane then they should call back to Dark Mind Phase 3
turbid nexus
ALWAYS BET ON
vagrant hound
Always bet on Magolor and Dark Nebula
(Good time when people thought dark nebula was showing up in Planet Robobot/KSA)
Instead, we got this
toxic delta
were there people who really thought that lol (for Robobot)
vagrant hound
Yeah lol
tacit saffron
should've thought of it for TDX
toxic delta
just gonna go mechanize this idiot star real quick
vagrant hound
The 10 year anniversary differences, similar to TDX and how AM and TDX was 10 year differences
toxic delta
ah
tacit saffron
considering that game is more of a continuation of that era
in some ways
meanwhile PR is more in love with Shimomura (& team) stuff than even RTDL was
vagrant hound
āSQSQ and PR is 10 year difference, since AM and TDX was 10 year difference and AM was referenced, maybe Daroach and Dark Nebula will return for PRā
(Instead we got KSS/U reference)
toxic delta
now I want Daroach-Borg
tacit saffron
āSQSQ and PR is 10 year difference, since AM and TDX was 10 year difference and ...
they didn't realize they were celebrating the other anniversary
vagrant hound
Squeak Squad brainrot is real (itās based and peak and I have one as well)
tacit saffron
you have a mouse in your head
maybe they will bring back the dark zero one day
who knows
toxic delta
the rats ā¤ļø
tacit saffron
the original beast pack
toxic delta
also never realized until now that the pic they use at end of his Guest Star credits is one that cannot be gotten ingame, huh
tacit saffron
edited
gleaming stream
Dark Nebula is in there
high widget
eating dark nebula right now
gleaming stream
How does it taste
toxic delta
US Nintendo site now has SCW on frontpage
they still haven't updated the page for it lol (same goes for UK one)
torn vapor
I hope the scw is bigger than the trailers make it seem
lean grove
that's a given due to them preferring people buying the game to find out more info
green crater
I don't expect it to be massive tbh. Enough to warrant the upgrade price. But like, I can't imagine it being a whole game's worth
lean grove
that being said it's only in the sense the trailers have given very little to begin with
if there's really only two new stages per world then... that's only 12 new stages
and then maybe 4 more if they decide to put a new world at the end
and then maybe like 6 new treasure roads for the mouthfuls
obtuse berry
20 more tilt and roll subgame levels
lean grove
and then maybe like 6 new treasure roads for the mouthfuls
maybe 1 more for any evolution unlocked from the final boss of this story
dry mauve
if there's really only two new stages per world then... that's only 12 new stage...
honestly, considering thereās 25 levels in the base game (not including boss stages), thatās basically half of the main story, or the equivalent of 3 new worlds. Although I do still hope thereās more theyāre not showing
lean grove
it is concerning how they haven't even shown one new enemy besides the midboss
torn vapor
Yea
Itll be rlly funny if hal learnt their lesson from epilogue and barely advertised new bosses
obtuse berry
The new crystal miniboss is actually the only new addition to the boss roster
You just fight different variations of them like the sphere doomers
The final boss of SCW is actually just a bigger version of it
high widget
what if the final boss of SCW is actually Mr Frosty
obtuse berry
Then it's a hint that he'll appear in air riders to be the forgotten land playable rep
high widget
The return of Frosty on a Star
turbid nexus
Itll be rlly funny if hal learnt their lesson from epilogue and barely advertise...
Honestly I feel like there wonāt be any other new bosses except the final ones lol
high widget
I don't remember Magolor Epilogue advertising its new bosses
shrewd oracle
we saw fiery puffer in the reveal trailer at least
turbid nexus
Hydriath was in the overview trailer too
lean grove
it's probably logical to assume that any new bosses will be like the one midboss given the very specific design, but it just is so weird that we don't even know the first one
tacit saffron
can't be Gorimondo unless they want to do RTDLDX True Arena again
lean grove
I think given the scope of the DLC we could maybe assume at least 2 or 3 bosses before the final boss? perhaps spaced out every other level
like the first boss is in everbay coast and the second is in winter horns, that kind of deal
high widget
can't be Gorimondo unless they want to do RTDLDX True Arena again
it shall happen
tacit saffron
Crystal Gorimondo
tacit saffron
I said that already
high widget
yeah so theyre going to RTDL DX True Arena again
where its every ex boss then the ex bosses of those
shadow kindle
I'm kinda expecting at least 4 remixed versions of the main story bosses similar to what they did with HiAD and Magolor epilogue
lean grove
I just want new things in this DLC I don't really like how it's just shaping up to be post-game 1.5 because it can't step on the toes of the original post game
shadow kindle
I do wonder how they'll handle Elfilis in UCZEX
somber temple
Astral Birth
Fecto.
shadow kindle
I assuming they'll probably do something similar to Void
Maybe Starry Elfilis or Crystal Elfilis
Maybe we'll get a remix of two planets approach the roche limit
high widget
no
i think they will make Chaos Elfilis harder
and SCW will have its own unique final boss but isnt the final boss
shadow kindle
I mean
We all know that the SCW final boss is OBVIOUSLY not going to be the final boss of UCZEX
lean grove
I could see them decide to replace Chaos Elfilis with like
an actual Soul Forgo
or maybe they just make Galacta Knight the final boss of TUCZEX
because why not, they already have a bunch of alternate dimensions to run through at this point
shadow kindle
I would imagine that the potential Elfilis fight in UCZEX would pretty much be a much harder Chaos Elfilis but with a different boss title, a different colour and replaces the word "Chaos" with another word
Oh and it would most likely have new attacks too
lean grove
I just don't think they can try to one up Chaos Elfilis again
mostly because that fight is really long, it takes like almost 3 minutes just to beat the first phase
shadow kindle
I mean the Void fight in SMEX was also pretty long even you have allies
I wouldn't be surprised if they did something like that again
limpid finch
id love it actually
rustic crow
I have work on the day SCW comes out because I was too hesitant to ask for that exact day off
But luckily on the flip side it's the shortest shift possible so it works out
somber temple
hey, I'm not sure when I'll get SCWorld tho
yes, I have the original version of the game, I just need to get the Upgrade Pack and I'm all set
but, as I recently returned to college, I dunno when I will be able to get the Upgrade Pack
time to pay up
toxic delta
I don't remember Magolor Epilogue advertising its new bosses
all except Crowned Doomer and Master Crown were partially known before release
compact robin
Ots prolly gunna be like a 2 hour expansion
Yeah realistically this is probably meant to be a small little DLC
somber temple
but hey, Gear Mouth looks sick, and Neichel's appearance being somewhat acknowledged in-game is also sick too
tepid burrow
but hey, Gear Mouth looks sick, and Neichel's appearance being somewhat acknowle...
DID SOMEONE SAY NEICHEL?!
somber temple
YEAH
I still remember the days of being hyped to see her during Music Fest lol
me bringing my Meta Knight plushie and my in-progress playthrough of Milky Way Wishes on KSSU on my 3DS... to witness Neichel appearing for the first time...
god fucking damn
I'll never forget this
#kirby-music-fest message
tulip coralBOT
https://discord.com/channels/132720341058453504/417458111553470474/1007241775779...
cyonofgaia#0 - #kirby-music-fest
tepid burrow
We all witnessed Neichel (i woke my dad up when they played Morpho Knightās theme)
somber temple
not gonna lie I was thrilled
honestly, I felt Kirby Music Fest was more exciting for me over big concerts like Hololive's imo
but that may be due to my hyperfixation bias lol
I mean, I'm a huge fan of the series since the day I bought Triple Deluxe as my first game
Back in 2016
somber temple
for me I was running Ironmouse's cover of KING a few minutes before the concert began
and also there was Kirby's Dream Buffet ads pre-show
and after the concert I played A Full-Speed Farewell
And then got motivated to finally beat Milky Way Wishes, I did lol
but not gonna lie, I was celebrating even more than usual because I was hyped after the concert
okay, okay, god damn, I forgot we're in the Star-Crossed World thread lol, we were talking about Neichel lmao
tepid burrow
I want to hear your Neichel theories in SCW
twin fog
Theory: She continues to be irrelevant, hopefully we get an image of her
tepid burrow
I Want Neichel to have a big role, may not happen but i still believe
sand patrol
I think its not happening
With like 90% confidence
Just isn't really what she is
She is a neat nit of world building and clearly a fun tease for the fans (hence her showing up at the concert)
But that's really all she is not every piece of lore needs to share importance you can have set dressing
hybrid hornet
It'd be so cool if she were an actual character but the only way to do that is if there's like, "records" she left behind, like "audio" or writing
cuz i dont think they're ever going to confirm/deny exactly What she is given how divisive that is
hybrid hornet
It'd be so cool if she were an actual character but the only way to do that is i...
it'd actually be so crazy if we got something like that from one of the world's previous inhabitants, to give us more insight into what happened to them 
without touching on what they were
shrewd oracle
This is like gaster in deltarune except gaster is actually more important there than neichel is here
But I mean like, when people think gaster is actually going to show up and be like "im the final boss now šæ"
sand patrol
cuz i dont think they're ever going to confirm/deny exactly What she is given ho...
I mean what more is there to confirm
They are not really ambiguous of you are queued into this
hybrid hornet
im assuming you mean it's not ambiguous that they're human in which case 
āØ āØ thank you for saying that always lovely to hear
wise flame
Feet, check
Legs, check
Body, check
Arms, check
Hands, check
Grey Skin, check
Big bug-like eyes, check
Yep this is a human person-
sand patrol
Well kuma confirmed what she is
hybrid hornet
it's like an Ado/Adeleine situation to me though - in her case, it's obvious they're the same character, but they decided to be intentionally amgibuous about it because "people might get sad to see she's grown/changed"
sand patrol
Directly
hybrid hornet
yoo what
fear
wise flame
Adeleine's metaphorical sister,
toxic delta
Well kuma confirmed what she is
when?
wise flame
Sing-a-lot
tepid burrow
In the interview?
hybrid hornet
Sing-a-lot
kuma confirmed she's an (anonymous) singer lmao /joke
wise flame
wise flame
[the interview]
tepid burrow
wise flame
Artist is not an occupation or a hobby it's a species apparently (they all got powers)
I guess singer is too
hybrid hornet
I've been trying to refrain from even saying the word "human" too much even
wise flame
HUMAN I KNOW YOUR NIECHELS
hybrid hornet
yuo're
toxic delta
Artist is not an occupation or a hobby it's a species apparently (they all got p...
the artist species of Drawcia, Paintra, Paint Roller, Kirby sometimes, Elline, Magical Paintbrush, Adeleine
toxic delta
I think we'll get more on her than base game at least (I mean we already basically did)
hybrid hornet
ye i was talking about her species š and the entire species of the new world and stuff
sand patrol
And I'll get anecdotal now and say yea I fully belive how she appears in the anniversary concert is what she is supposed to be
toxic delta
I think we'll get more on her than base game at least (I mean we already basical...
maybe talk about her in figure or something, maybe even with that exact sign
wise flame
The closest we're gonna get is like, an abandoned concert stadium thingy
tepid burrow
āShe is just a singerā Maybe sheās more then that
toxic delta
maybe talk about her in figure or something, maybe even with that exact sign
because base game is vague about the fact she even exists in-universe (especially in most localizations) LMAO
sand patrol
I don't think the human architecture with the human language (lab discovera message) is really being ambiguous
hybrid hornet
And I'll get anecdotal now and say yea I fully belive how she appears in the ann...
based
I do think them being Adeleine looking makes a bit more sense than full-on proportionately accurate humans because the new world's scale isn't big enough to match Kirby being 8 inches
I dunno if I'd actually Mind humans like that in the kirby world too much though - as long as they don't become common place maybe
sand patrol
Credits theme too
toxic delta
I don't think the human architecture with the human language (lab discovera mess...
I mean they still treat it as such for most part
even if it is bit obvious
sand patrol
Sure but only so we can put more pieces together
tepid burrow
It could be impossible that Adeleine is Neichel because Star Allies
hybrid hornet
I don't think the human architecture with the human language (lab discovera mess...
also them calling the language Forgo teaches Leon "human language" in a guidebook, when in-game they say pretty much the same thing in a figurine while explicitly avoiding the word "human"
I am (not) Normal about forgotten land humans
sand patrol
Well they are not literal humans I dont think the new world is literally earth
Its just basically humans
tacit saffron
humanoid
hybrid hornet
the fact every new enemy added in Forgotten Land is basically just an animal, when in the series less than 30% of all enemies are even animal-inspired
the fact that a lot of the new cast has legs and arms, which used to be unusual in Kirby
hybrid hornet
the ado reference in the forgotten land spoken language, though they reference Void too i think
tacit saffron
well yeah nobody was expecting it except HAL themselves
anyway Neichel is just Pauline 2
sand patrol
Kinda
shrewd oracle
Mookie Bananza
tacit saffron
because Odyssey did it so we're going to do it too
sand patrol
But Pauline I think you need to be a bit obtuse about lol
tacit saffron
they can't beat Splatoon though
tacit saffron
Mookie Bananza
before that King, before that
toxic delta
the ado reference in the forgotten land spoken language, though they reference V...
they reference bit of Jambastion (language) stuff in general
hybrid hornet
I think niechel showing up in real life is the payoff
yeah i get a bit confused by people saying she "doesn't actually look like that," like idr what the alternate interpretation is supposed to be, mysterious kirby character design but gijinkafied?
sand patrol
There is at least some ambiguity with niechel but I think its mostly cut and dry her role
toxic delta
they reference bit of Jambastion (language) stuff in general
and by extension little bit of Halcandra
turbid nexus
This is like gaster in deltarune except gaster is actually more important there ...
So whatās the Kirby equivalent to the Bunker
toxic delta
and by extension little bit of Halcandra
oh also Noddies (Nodiruna jumpscare)
tacit saffron
But Pauline I think you need to be a bit obtuse about lol
well before that she was just damsel in distress
they had to make her standout somehow
toxic delta
yeah i get a bit confused by people saying she "doesn't actually look like that,...
I mean I think she'd look more like Ado/Adeleine in-universe
hybrid hornet
I mean I think she'd look more like Ado/Adeleine in-universe
ye
hybrid hornet
like ig in that interpretation it's technically true she doesnt actually look like that, but then you don't have to take it farther by saying she's a Waddle Dee or something
sand patrol
And i hope she stays that way
The billboard is just more
I think it confirms the title of the main theme of this game too
tacit saffron
the worldbuilding is fun
toxic delta
I mostly just want them to mention her in a figure or something
tacit saffron
gets you more invested and thinking about the affairs of the world
hybrid hornet
I do think they are still being intentionally "ambiguous" or maybe just mysterious/fushigi about it because it feels like a few people just don't like human FL people
they'll drop a million hints but never Directly Confirm it
sand patrol
Well yeah
toxic delta
I mostly just want them to mention her in a figure or something
even billboard is locked behind knowing new world's language even if it is a bit better
sand patrol
Thats why I say its all but confirmed
hybrid hornet
real
tepid burrow
Maybe the species of the Forgotten Land are all Animals
sand patrol
even billboard is locked behind knowing new world's language even if it is a bit...
I tgink the point os she is basically there for us to find
But a figure would be nice
But I think the point is that its sort of building on the hidden lore they are known for
By having a literal real life payoff fir being invested in it
toxic delta
I mean base game just had her in credits, and it wasn't even clear if she was real person or not
(JP had her mentioned in Natural Plains name, Neichel Plains, but most other languages erased that so)
sand patrol
Well people still got excited when she showed up in the concert
So clearly it worked
toxic delta
a JP-only concert still
hybrid hornet
Also got excited when we saw music fest novel and wanted Neichel lore
toxic delta
~~a JP-only concert still~~
though Nintendo Dream interview was fantranslated at that point
hybrid hornet
also the fact Neichel's singer is anonymous- I Think it's like. The actual real life singer didn't actually want to be anonymous, but they had her be anonymous for the sake of the Wonder and Fantasy of her actually being Neichel
sand patrol
Japanese fans are still fans
toxic delta
but anyway you do not know how many people I saw thought Dream Buffet trailer back then was shadow-drop lol
sand patrol
Even if its more cumbersome for us
toxic delta
never said anything against that at all
just saying there is lot more Western audience than usual (and they know that), so I think having more obvious thing ingame would be nice
sand patrol
Sure that's fair
hybrid hornet
in-game things are the best bc even if i lived in japan idk if i'd go to concerts - like, maybe
and it's more explicit so people don't have to go digging through miiverse or a wiki
toxic delta
Music Fest was streamed at least
sand patrol
And it was well advertised
somber temple
Music Fest was streamed at least
yeah
I'm really happy they did that
that allowed almost all of us at the r/kirby server to watch it live!
I still vividly remember the day I watched it
Complete with my Meta Knight plushie and my 3DS still at Milky Way Wishes
vagrant hound
in-game things are the best bc even if i lived in japan idk if i'd go to concert...
Everyday I think about how I got covid and couldnāt go to the music fest
Imma be real, but, Japan is small enough, and also has so many transportation methods that itās very easy to travel across the country, and like huge chunk of people does this, waking up early or take the night bus to the destination and go home that night
Oshi-katsu are very crazy down here 
glad path
Imagine if you can go into SCW without Elfilin, but...
It plays the weird route jingle
reef patrol
Speargrave route
random tendon
by the way do we have an idea what time this will drop?
DLC usually drops at the same time for everyone right?
toxic delta
no
it drops as usual digital games do (aka depending on region of eShop you bought it from)
languid cobalt
by the way do we have an idea what time this will drop?
DLC usually drops at th...
For me its probably 11 pm on the 27th
heady ravine
Imagine if you can go into SCW without Elfilin, but...
*It plays the weird route...
halfway through scw you see a fully completed elfilis destroying the parts of level you dont visit in the crystal route, and kirby just does nothing
toxic delta
it drops as usual digital games do (aka depending on region of eShop you bought ...
saw this with Jamboree TV
heady ravine
truly the darkest kirby game
vagrant hound
yeahhhh based on jamboree TV id assume this will be the same
release based on the region
since it also has switch 2 editions attatched
vagrant hound
probably because they just default everything to midnight of whatever region
toxic delta
yeah, and otherwise more people would get it earlier physically probably
toxic delta
yeah, and otherwise more people would get it earlier physically probably
even if only by a few hours
vagrant hound
probably gonna just play FL right until before the midnight
and do switch 2 version of FL after I do 2 runs of SCW
heady ravine
wait do switch 1 fl saves transfer over?
toxic delta
even if only by a few hours
(though some places do midnight release events still right?)
heady ravine
do we know that?
vagrant hound
should be
toxic delta
wait do switch 1 fl saves transfer over?
yes
heady ravine
at least you can start scw after beating world 1
toxic delta
yes
JP article mentions it (in regards to SCW unlock stuff) https://www.nintendo.com/jp/topics/article/c17c31e4-acd2-4906-83b7-0c801fce730b
obtuse berry
Sorry, Kirby ate your save file during the shift from 1 to 2
vagrant hound
gonna have a save data for after elfilin kidnap and see what happens
(nothing will happen)
toxic delta
it'd be funny if he was just absent from all the cutscenes
vagrant hound
lowkey it would be cool
toxic delta
(including the prerendered ones)
heady ravine
huh, i didnt think of that
heady ravine
cause yeah you could start scw anytime after gorimondo
vagrant hound
I'm literally dragging bandee for the cutscene
vagrant hound
cause yeah you could start scw anytime after gorimondo
they're gonna make it like merry magoland where they explain it happened at different time
turbid nexus
JP article mentions it (in regards to SCW unlock stuff) <https://www.nintendo.co...
ā¦You know I never noticed the Waddle Dees in this pic until now
They look
So small
Bugs when you lift up a rockā¦
turbid nexus
Magolor is Missing
turbid nexus
Yeah
Idk how I missed them at first
Guess I thought they were coral
That heart looks so cool thoughš
heady ravine
it really does
random tendon
it drops as usual digital games do (aka depending on region of eShop you bought ...
oh I thought all updates did huh weird
toxic delta
tbf this is a 'Switch 2 Edition'
and also has physical release and standalone digital one too
which is probably why they treat it like this
now for the actual 'update' that adds compatibility with it (which will affect Switch 1 too), that'll be at same time everywhere obviously
but we have no idea when that will come out, Jamboree TV's was like a week before release
and is more minor overall
ocean ingot
ā¦You know I never noticed the Waddle Dees in this pic until now<:SobKirby:128026...
This tweet has closer view of the dees
ocean ingot
The Dark Star waiting for Kirby to save all the Starries when he keeps trying to Hammer Super Jump for hours on end
wise flame
by the way do we have an idea what time this will drop?
DLC usually drops at th...
As a Californian, here's the times I remember regarding releases:
(Pacific Time)
- Star Allies updates: (5:00 pm)
- Forgotten Land release: (9:00 pm)
Mind you, these occur a day prior to stated release, and often at evening or night
sand patrol
so release date in the US is based on the eastern timezone
so midnight on thursday there
and wednesday at 9pm on the west coast
random tendon
and I hate that brazil also follows that time so it's at 1 AM for me
random tendon
I'm debating getting a physical code but also feels like too much trouble for a code
random tendon
wow and this doesn't even have magolor /silly
vagrant hound
I'm debating getting a physical code but also feels like too much trouble for a ...
Honestly might as well as get it digitally at this point since itās more certain
random tendon
yeah that's probably what I will do
vagrant hound
wow and this doesn't even have magolor /silly
I was debating for 2 months smh </3
random tendon
can you predownload this like you can with a game or
because otherwise having to wake up to get it downloaded and only then play will be miserable
vagrant hound
Uhhhhh good question, I donāt remember
toxic delta
yeah, checked Jamboree TV launch streams to make sure lol
turbid nexus
Honestly Iāll probably just download it from Eshop
Since Iām literally hanging onto a $20 gift card just for this lol
turbid nexus
I mean Iād
Have to get a Switch 2 to use it though lol
random tendon
ah so you can download it first
toxic delta
Honestly Iāll probably just download it from Eshop
~~Since Iām literally hangin...
probably will too, just so I can have un-updated Switch 1 version as well and not have to pay $80 for separate physical lol
(if it wasn't for first part, could just sell my original physical copy probably)
twin fog
ā¦You know I never noticed the Waddle Dees in this pic until now<:SobKirby:128026...
They're doing the Star Allies thing again /s
"Oh we're HD now, time to zoom the camera out"
"Oh we're 1440 now, time to zoom the camera out"
toxic delta
I mean this is probably part of a cutscene anyway lol
even ignoring the typical black bars
twin fog
My guy got a render!!!
Pokemon ass pose
vagrant hound
Mr Beast
turbid nexus
True
twin fog
Also the most interesting thing about this to me is this implies this guy is in ZEX
Even though it just seems to be some strong enemy you can walk past rather than a midboss
turbid nexus
turbid nexus
Also the most interesting thing about this to me is this implies this guy is in ...
Yeah thatās odd
vagrant hound
Oughhh fun more translation
toxic delta
https://fxtwitter.com/ghaithdalhoumi/status/1956818634992685429?s=46&t=KjgI8a61B...
also when was the last time they did these? SMRPG? or do they do these all the time and people just don't talk about them
lean grove
Even though it just seems to be some strong enemy you can walk past rather than ...
idk it has the "critical health" phase shift when it loses like half its HP and normal enemies definitely don't have those
turbid nexus
https://fxtwitter.com/kirby_jp/status/1956914177509060706?s=46&t=KjgI8a61BxDiubZ...
The music
lean grove
idk it has the "critical health" phase shift when it loses like half its HP and ...
the weird part is how it doesn't have a health bar
my best guess is that was a treehouse only thing to avoid revealing the name but idk
twin fog
https://fxtwitter.com/kirby_jp/status/1956914177509060706?s=46&t=KjgI8a61BxDiubZ...
Holy shit its peak
toxic delta
is this gonna be the Fallen-Star Volcano theme?
random tendon
https://fxtwitter.com/kirby_jp/status/1956914177509060706?s=46&t=KjgI8a61BxDiubZ...
WHAT IS THIS MUSIC
omg it's a remix of GK's battle theme no way
vagrant hound
me wondering if ē½ć should be disaster or catastrophe
twin fog
Elfilin really likes saying konokanji huh
random tendon
me wondering if ē½ć should be disaster or catastrophe
yes
vagrant hound
Thanks for the awesome answer! /lhj
twin fog
me wondering if ē½ć should be disaster or catastrophe
Yea those just mean the same thing to people in english
random tendon
peak
toxic delta
Yes was born from the starā¦
Astral Birth
lean grove
Yea those just mean the same thing to people in english
I suppose disaster has the implication of being "sudden" and a single "cause" while catastrophe has the implication of being built up to and having multiple "causes"
if that makes a marginal difference?
spiral void
that song is soooo good
tribal igloo
https://fxtwitter.com/kirby_jp/status/1956914177509060706?s=46&t=KjgI8a61BxDiubZ...
the music š
twin fog
idk it has the "critical health" phase shift when it loses like half its HP and ...
Oh yea we did see that at some point didn't we
ocean ingot
My guy got a render!!!
Aura farming
twin fog
In before they're midbosses without HP bars or room guarder borders but if you defeat all of them you get the true ending or something
vagrant hound
sorry crappy translation, Im in middle of playing horror games with croco and co
rightttt crocs
twin fog
Im going to go insane these 2 weeks
toxic delta
same
torn vapor
X
Ok the final boss is gonna be rlly fucked up
with that music smth terrible is gonna happen
twin fog
The music is really satisfying
vagrant hound
https://fxtwitter.com/kirby_jp/status/1956914177509060706?s=46&t=KjgI8a61BxDiubZ...
crappy translation of the dialogue
Astronomer Waddle Dee: According to the legend, it says that meteor has fallen to this world several times.
If, this meteor was the star of darkness that disasters are born from...
Elfilin: ...Hey, Kirby. This feeling, I'm not sure... I have a very bad feeling about this.
Something terrible is about to be born from inside this thing...```I swear it reminds me of something but I can't think of anything in Kirby
Maybe it reminds me of lusamine's theme?
torn vapor
crappy translation of the dialogue
```
Astronomer Waddle Dee: According to the ...
We went from galacta knight to alternate fecto forgo to the appearance of another member of the dark matter species
twin fog
I know there's some Lusamine related tracks in SM that use a similar female voice and like percussion sound
But I more so mean the melody reminds me of lusamine's battle theme
toxic delta
ah, I was thinking normal theme
twin fog
I think her normal theme has the same leitmotif right
toxic delta
yeah
twin fog
Ah yea her encounter theme is a better match for the slow vibes
toxic delta
We went from galacta knight to alternate fecto forgo to the appearance of anothe...
doubt it's the latter lol
at most it means more Jamba Heart-ish ties but that doesn't really mean Dark Matter Clan at all
spiral void
crappy translation of the dialogue
```
Astronomer Waddle Dee: According to the ...
fascinating
toxic delta
doubt it's the latter lol
at most it means more Jamba Heart-ish ties but that do...
especially when this doesn't really contradict the possible other Forgo species thing (which we don't really know too much about overall)
Elfilin commenting on it is sus
turbid nexus
crappy translation of the dialogue
```
Astronomer Waddle Dee: According to the ...
Bro the Roaring is about to happen
random tendon
crappy translation of the dialogue
```
Astronomer Waddle Dee: According to the ...
no way dark nebula
but for real interesting
several times??? what has the new world gone through
vagrant hound
Is this Jurassic era
toxic delta
I mean you have ID-F86 and shit already LMAO
random tendon
yeah but like even more than that damn
random tendon
Is this Jurassic era
TRUE
vagrant hound
Dinosaur watching the meteor falling and revealing Fecto forgo
sand patrol
thiscould still be a fecto
arctic gale
Dinosaur mention!????? 
sand patrol
they do justi nvade and fuck shit up
vagrant hound
Invasive species (+meteor)
toxic delta
at the very least, if not that it could be an 'ID-(F)'
random tendon
dark matter fecto
vagrant hound
ID-Fecto Meteor
toxic delta
at the very least, if not that it could be an 'ID-(F)'
wtf are the first 85....
arctic gale
ID-FVoid