Like IDK what happened on the trailer department but like
#Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)
wise flame
toxic delta
I think they showed stuff but not super-direct (also I think that's more on Nintendo's end tbh, even non-Kirby stuff does it)
wise flame
Not even Star Allies went as far as to show a cutscene from like... after defeating the "2nd to last" boss during its pre-release trailers
toxic delta
I mean there was HiAD
they definitely showed too much there lol
Corrupt Hyness was more of a surprise than any other the other bosses
wise flame
Yeah HIAD kinda showed basically everything
Magolor Epilogue to some extent-ish? But between Star Allies and RTDLDX, DX has more of the edge because its post-game final boss is actually more of a surprise than... a white-colored ball
toxic delta
I meant Mages, Void was unknown too (but also not directly HiAD)
anyway I think Kirby has been mostly fine with it since then
wise flame
Ok unrelated note, I'm just re-looking the overview trailer...
toxic delta
especially with how much people argued over who final boss of Epilogue would be so much and barely guessing things right at all lol
wise flame
Could just be an intentional design but... why's the top star, and only that one, platinum??
toxic delta
tbh the fact the platinum isn't more rainbowy is weirder
since Kirby usually does that
wise flame
It looks more like they just overlayed a platinum star over the base-design
Again there may be a chance we're only getting one more cup from SCW, but this gives me vibes of "here's a bonus one too"
toxic delta
especially with how much people argued over who final boss of Epilogue would be ...
remember when people argued over Morpho vs Galacta vs original (or something else) and people thought Gem Apples would only have a vague connection? good times....
hybrid bolt
I think expecting a meaty campaign as big as the first game is
way too high for what is essentially 20 dollar dlc
toxic delta
I think what they showed already looks pretty good
definitely more worth it than like, Jamboree TV lmao
hybrid bolt
SCW looks great for what it is
sudden mirage
yeah my expectations are kinda low
hybrid bolt
I know someone who's sadly left that they weren't really feeling it because it wasn't a sequel but like at the same time, if the DLC isn't on par to a full fledged game, then uh
sudden mirage
2 levels per world, 3 treasure roads, and maybe 2 levels in the new world
hybrid bolt
if it had a lot of content, then that takes away time from the sequel lol
sudden mirage
yeah lol
toxic delta
2 levels per world, 3 treasure roads, and maybe 2 levels in the new world
it'd be more than 3 Treasure Roads assuming they're doing them, it'd be more like 6
toxic delta
it'd be more than 3 Treasure Roads assuming they're doing them, it'd be more lik...
not exact number but like bit of stuff in base game had 2
wise flame
In fairness, base-game's got like 25 levels
toxic delta
1-2 new bosses
think there'll be a few before finale at least
wise flame
If we're correct, at most SCW will add 12 levels... which is still quite chunky!
That's at least 3 whole world's worth of content right there
hybrid bolt
I almost forget how small the level selection was lol
I think it's helped that each level was really meaty
toxic delta
think there'll be a few before finale at least
if not, I assume ZEX will give a few more variants and maybe another boss
wise flame
Although I would accept 3 world's of content...
Gonna be honest the weird patterned landscapes that intermingle with the Forgotten Land makes me ponder at least one or two worlds where the aesthetic is entirely that
hybrid bolt
it seems like we'll get that?
for like the final world maybe
wait a minute it's more than 25
🤨
wise flame
Might be a little unrealistic but I think at least a level set in popstar would be neat
toxic delta
I'd rather a Lab Discovera stage
hybrid bolt
ignoring forgo post game, we get like around 30 levels for the base game.
wise flame
I don't think we'd count the boss levels
Those are just introductory segments for a full fight
hybrid bolt
oh right...
toxic delta
yeah, especially since SCW doesn't seem to have equivalent
the second stages are full stages
wise flame
Ugh had to keep re-checking that trailer...
"Expands on the original game"
"and adds a brand new story"
wise flame
No idea why they gotta... say it like that. I'm sure the first half is just the performance but like...
toxic delta
probably because of stuff like Jamboree TV
hybrid bolt
the first half expands on the existing levels with stuff you don't get to see in the base game
wise flame
~~ And before it turns out the "expansion" in question is Arrival Point's inclusion in the world map ~~
hybrid bolt
so they literally are adding assets
even if the ratio is smaller, it's not exactly a lie
toxic delta
probably because of stuff like Jamboree TV
vs here where it is actually integrated seamlessly and is affecting base game stuff
hybrid bolt
they're also adding segments with like
wise flame
Just the fact they actually re-located a whole level just brings implications...
hybrid bolt
3 new mouthful modes
wise flame
Yeah we all saw the trailer
But like... dude what's gonna happen to the entrance of Waddle Dee Town now?
green crater
It can easily just be an addition to the map without changing town
lean grove
it really doesn't matter because the level doesn't have any collectables to begin with
sudden mirage
it'd be more than 3 Treasure Roads assuming they're doing them, it'd be more lik...
oh yeah if we’re getting new evos it’ll probably be more
wise flame
The volcano continues to haunt me
lean grove
we're probably getting only one evo and its just for the final boss i guess
i feel like if these levels had more evos in them we'd probably have seen them already
sudden mirage
sword evo number #4 🔥
toxic delta
oh yeah if we’re getting new evos it’ll probably be more
I more meant that some of the Mouthfuls had two
hybrid bolt
I know Hal gets praised a lot and for good reasons, but once again, there's a very solid reason why having Nintendo as their daddy was a good thing
Kumazaki:
The project proposal I received from Mr Kamiyama for this game was so passionate; it was like nothing I'd seen before. It didn't focus on the aspects we usually focus on, like new game details or a new setting for the adventure. Instead, it offered guaranteed solutions to each of those tricky 3D-platforming issues that had held the concept back for so long, including specific control scheme plans to ensure players would have fun. With a proposal that solid, I knew we'd be OK, so work on the project officially began shortly after that.
toxic delta
I more meant that some of the Mouthfuls had two
but yeah if evo(s) happen then there'll be more too
could also do new ones with base game stuff but hard to tell
hybrid bolt
Hal is usually very focused on aethestics, setting etc. that the more gameplay oriented side from Nintendo kinda gave them solutions into transitioning to 3D.
toxic delta
> Kumazaki:
> The project proposal I received from Mr Kamiyama for this game was...
am I dumb, what does this have to do with Nintendo
hybrid bolt
I mistook his name with Ninomiya
toxic delta
could also do new ones with base game stuff but hard to tell
can't wait for Morpho Sword to get second one that is just its first one but with Crystal midbosses 
and maybe that one midboss-like enemy I guess
lean grove
that would imply that a scroll is the reward from TUCZEX
acoustic sage
TUCZEX
toxic delta
tbf they can put scrolls elsewhere
could just be general post-SCW one
like I mean, Masked Hammer is just gotten through dialogue lol
(then there's Morpho Sword that is just post-fight (like most boss stage ones) but idk if they're gonna have moment like that for this)
wise flame
I forgot about boss stages just giving you evolutions
Also, aside from all of world 1 lacking evos... World 4 and 6 are ones with a level or two that doesn't have an evo
tacit saffron
tbh the fact the platinum isn't more rainbowy is weirder
welcome back RTDL Platinum
toxic delta
nah even RtDL's had more obvious rainbow elements
and other flourishes
just wasn't metal part itself
(also Drum Dash did similar thing)
tacit saffron
nah even RtDL's had more obvious rainbow elements
take Cookie Country 4 for instance
which may just also be taking from Fantasy Meadows? 
toxic delta
not sure how that's related
tacit saffron
you know those animated rainbow loops/different patterns that can show up there
similar to imagery happening in that course
spiralling clouds...
whole dawn
how do i get blocktube! Please i neeeeeeed that!
compact robin
Obv I'll be playing through SCW as soon as it releases but I'll prob also be replaying FL too. Imagine one of the best Kirby games ever in 60 fps... (I have low standards)
hybrid bolt
60 fps + cleaner resolution.
but yes replaying this game again with better graphics is what probably will keep me satisified on top of the new content.
wise flame
<:voidthink:454488247175741440> how do i get blocktube! Please i neeeeeeed that...
IDK if google has it anymore, but Firefox has it as an extension
Oh google has it too
Mind you this is for PC browsing
shadow kindle
I really hope that the final boss theme for SCW is good
I'm also looking forward to the name of the final boss theme
sand patrol
I really hope that the final boss theme for SCW is good
Have they ever not
lean grove
the final boss theme for KF2 wasn't that good
sand patrol
Disagree
toxic delta
yeah I loved both of Fighters 2's
though either way, songs in SCW are already really good
reef patrol
Always bet on cake-thief waddle dee in SCW
sand patrol
Please give the forgo mini bosses proper palettes please
ocean ingot
Always bet on cake-thief waddle dee in SCW
Cake-thief Dee is disguised as Astronomer Dee trying to trick Kirby....
turbid nexus
Do you think they’ll give Trader Waddle Dee a figurine lol
toxic delta
most of it yeah, was one of the first things people did lol
tardy mortar
is it anywhere
toxic delta
NEICHEL
TWINKLING
STAR
SHOWERS
tardy mortar
lol
...that's just not helping is it
that's not helping the allegations of this DLC
toxic delta
NEICHEL
TWINKLING
STAR
SHOWERS
then there's '3' and 'New Release' (partially obscured) in black text
only thing that hasn't been translated is rest of the text at the very bottom I think
languid cobalt
then there's '3' and 'New Release' (partially obscured) in black text
only thing...
Neichel is a hat with glasses?
tardy mortar
So the name of the song we heard in the first trailer is probably called Twinkling Star Showers
toxic delta
Neichel is a hat with glasses?
I mean she wears one
just a drawing, it isn't an actual picture of her
toxic delta
yeah
tardy mortar
(she doesn't here)
toxic delta
I think it's just a ribbon
languid cobalt
tardy mortar
oh a figure well whatever
tepid burrow
Neichel my beloved
toxic delta
also find it interesting they actually got this type of meteor on here
tardy mortar
I had a hard time looking at this image and deciphering what it is lol
tepid burrow
also find it interesting they actually got this type of meteor on here
It wasn’t a coincidence, wasn’t it?
gleaming stream
Always bet on cake-thief waddle dee in SCW
I wonder if they ever got found
toxic delta
decided to translate the Cafe sign that Sign Mouth uses real quick too if it wasn't already yet
CAFE
OPEN 10:00
CLOSE 18:00
gleaming stream
“Sorry Kirby, I was hungry.”
toxic delta
decided to translate the Cafe sign that Sign Mouth uses real quick too if it was...
forget if there was any instances of time in base game
but anyway imagine only being open 8 hours lol
acoustic sage
decided to translate the Cafe sign that Sign Mouth uses real quick too if it was...
Bit weird for a café to open after most people have their breakfast...
toxic delta
when is Kirby Cafe usually open?
though this seems to be more of a morning-type one so yeah weird
though 10 AM is still early lol
maybe people actually have decent schedules here and don't get up super early
sand patrol
that's not helping the allegations of this DLC
What allegations?
toxic delta
think he just means Neichel being in
vagrant hound
when is Kirby Cafe usually open?
I thought you mean irl wise lol
toxic delta
yeah I mean that
toxic delta
oh so similar
ocean ingot
Im curious what the bottom right of the Neichel sign says...
There's a 3,
then "NEW REL..."
vagrant hound
If only water balloon mouth can wash them off
ocean ingot
I love all the details they hide everywhere
Alivel Mall Anniversary Sale my beloved
gleaming stream
10% off
ocean ingot
Such a cute detail considering it was the 30th Anniversary when it came out
turbid nexus
decided to translate the Cafe sign that Sign Mouth uses real quick too if it was...
This shit ain’t opening anytime soon
vagrant hound
They should open one in Hokkaido and make it White Horns themed
twin fog
~~the final boss theme for KF2 wasn't that good~~
Guest Star ass composition
ocean ingot
Unseen figurine of most likely that crystal mid boss
(i scoured this trailer for stuff)
turbid nexus
Yooooo
toxic delta
wonder if there'll be Kiosk demo out anytime soon...still haven't seen anyone mention there being one
toxic delta
I said Kiosk for a reason lol
though I think they probably should do eShop one too tbh
especially since S2E affects base game (and also isn't simply considered a DLC)
ocean ingot
Eshop one would most likely have the three og demo stages with Meteor Shower's Arrival as an extra for beating Gorimondo
sand patrol
The kiosk one could be the same as the switch 2 hands on events
toxic delta
yeah but it'd still be good to see
sand patrol
I know it was for bananza
toxic delta
wasn't Bananza's different?
iirc it had the Bananzas
though could be misremembering
sand patrol
Wait you're right ut did
toxic delta
yeah but it'd still be good to see
I'd like even a chance to see any other figures (though there probably isn't any more in it) and moreso other language stuff
sand patrol
Just had the 15 min time limit
toxic delta
I'd like even a chance to see any other figures (though there probably isn't any...
especially JP
Korean or Chinese could be nice too since they're usually pretty close to it
shut pendant
this screenshot is awesome
turbid nexus
Wait where is this from???
broken void
Wonder if SCW will end up getting its own world
This is from the latest overview I believe
The one with the new mouthfuls
turbid nexus
Hm, I don’t remember seeing this shot
Looks beautiful though
shut pendant
Wait where is this from???
https://www.nintendo.com/jp/topics/article/c17c31e4-acd2-4906-83b7-0c801fce730b japanese website that somehow no one talked about
turbid nexus
…Ah
toxic delta
we did, few days ago
turbid nexus
Baby
toxic delta
in fact here was how I found out lol
since they posted it after I stopped checking for the day
broken void
Ohhh woops i gaslit myself
turbid nexus
toxic delta
damn I was about to post it
turbid nexus
Oh the evil and intimidating purple crystals are timed
toxic delta
yeah that makes sense
Burts do indeed seem to have the purple aura like part of the trailer too
the
also the usual funny 86 spotting
tacit saffron
Burts do indeed seem to have the purple aura like part of the trailer too
not just them
the other crystal affected enemies do too
🟪 = evil
toxic delta
no, most of them are more blue
toxic delta
also the usual funny 86 spotting
how often does this appear in base game? know it's in Lab Discovera, I think the last HAL Room too?
feel like it appears more, but I forget lol
toxic delta
again pretty sure only purple ones like these are the ones posted
these Brontos don't even fluctuate color
tacit saffron
the rabiroo does spawn with purple dust clouds before a spiralling glimmer effect appears around them
ocean ingot
that hair tho 🔥
tacit saffron
though that first part might be base game already I think?
tacit saffron
that hair tho 🔥
this looks purple too
toxic delta
not really
toxic delta
feel like it appears more, but I forget lol
anyway, anyone know
robust tundra
anyway, anyone know
if i remember outside of lab discovera, i think its on every secret hal room and...maybe in the arena before fighting fecto elfilis?
i cant rememebr well but i swear there was an 86 around that part
toxic delta
yeah pre-Fecto Elfilis area is what I meant with Lab Discovera
checked and didn't see it in first HAL Room (and second is in pre-existing room anyway so obviously none there)
gleaming stream
https://fxtwitter.com/kirby_jp/status/1954740086094090559?s=46&t=KjgI8a61BxDiubZ...
This mechanic is so cool
olive coral
https://fxtwitter.com/kirby_jp/status/1954740086094090559?s=46&t=KjgI8a61BxDiubZ...
so the violet starryflowers are timed
cool
tacit saffron
yeah...
tacit saffron
they didn't change it did they?
robust tundra
0/10 bad port
whatcha trying to get at?
wise flame
A joke
robust tundra
ah..
wise flame
I guess you didn't activate the crystal flower to find it
kind karma
Nah, you just don't catch me in other channels 
I was here a few days ago...I also linger in #kirby-adaptations
kind karma
the
Truly rocking it
Now that the Playtest Program ended, SCW truly has my full, undivided attention
wise flame
BTW #kirby-news is slacking
tacit saffron
you were divided by be4?
wise flame
(oh wait this came out an hour ago)
tacit saffron
tacit saffron
that would be hype as the only other DL3 enemy to return
don't you find it interesting when there's other creatures that give the same ability as the main one in the same game
even though there's no reason to have other than for sake of enemy variety?
ocean ingot
17 days guys...
(Can't believe it's already so close, like what)
tacit saffron
Tomorrow
heady ravine
don't you find it interesting when there's other creatures that give the same ab...
yeah that's always pretty neat
sterile quartz
Always bet on cake-thief waddle dee in SCW
Hot take: Kirby saw the waddle dee and assumed Dedede sent it
torn vapor
sand patrol
Im guessing if you are playing main story you need to rescue elfilin before unlocking the final starry stages
toxic delta
I think Redgar ones will unlock immediately (more specifically as soon as rest of Starry Stages are done and respective Redgar stages are done), it's just that even if they were the final stages there's only a very brief period to do the second one without him
there's a total of three main story stages after that lol (and two are boss ones, with Forgo Dedede seamlessly going into Lab Discovera)
sand patrol
I could see originull wastelands being locked off too
gleaming stream
Peak cinema
sand patrol
I do find it somewhat amusing people are trying to imagine what niechel would look like in universe
We already know
acoustic sage
I mean the billboard only shows her hat strangely
toxic delta
yeah, even if she's human and similar to Music Fest, we have no idea how it'll look in the style
see: Adeleine
acoustic sage
Not to mention it's entirely possible that her in-universe design wont be one-to-one with how she looks in the concert
toxic delta
see: Adeleine
(and Ado)
acoustic sage
For all we know, that might've just been a gijinka or something and she's not even actually human
toxic delta
(and Ado)
they're the only non-crossover human Kirby character(s) right now, game-wise
Neichel seems to be an adult, would she look taller at least? and we don't know what her eyes look like even from Music Fest
would the dress be as long ingame too?
acoustic sage
I think the fact that her design is censored or obscured honestly points towards her making some sort of physical appearance
They want to keep it a secret
toxic delta
billboard is already a lot compared to base game lol
do wonder how much more they'll give
I assume at least some figure will talk about her (finally)
acoustic sage
I think the fact that her design is censored or obscured honestly points towards...
Like if she's not really a big deal then why bother with it?
We already have a general idea of what she looks like
toxic delta
I assume at least some figure will talk about her (finally)
with how much the radio is emphasized it's surprising they didn't try to give description to it in base game (and only made it a two-star figure)
tacit saffron
obviously mystery
acoustic sage
Huh yeah you're right
acoustic sage
Yeah this basically
toxic delta
I don't even mean that really, I just mean like
the basis of it that was mentioned in Nintendo Dream interview barely any time after (or could already be inferred) lol
they don't even explain what 'Neichel' is in base game, it's just in the credits (and JP name of Natural Plains)
tacit saffron
guest role
acoustic sage
reveal when the time is right
Which will probably be here
tacit saffron
guest star 
acoustic sage
I doubt we'll ever really go back to the New World in the future, rarely does Kirby ever straight-up reuse locations
I think the most consistently-revisited place is Castle Dedede and even then the layout constantly changes
toxic delta
they don't even explain what 'Neichel' is in base game, it's just in the credits...
the thing in the credits is easily mistakable as just being a real person
especially outside of JP due to Natural Plains name being changed (though this one is more on localization lol)
sand patrol
For all we know, that might've just been a gijinka or something and she's not ev...
I mean
I think its fairly obvious she is human
toxic delta
the thing in the credits is easily mistakable as just being a real person
was enough for this question to be asked in interview
(from https://gigi9714.wordpress.com/2022/07/31/translation-of-the-kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-interview-from-the-june-2022-edition-of-nintendo-dream/)
acoustic sage
Yeah I was just bringing up a possibility
She will almost certainly be human, especially given everything that points to the New World's previous occupants being humans
toxic delta
she could be just human-adjacent instead
but slowly becoming more and more unlikely
acoustic sage
I do have a theory that the "space-folk" like the Haltmanns or Mage Sisters are related to humans in some way
toxic delta
ah, so convergent evolution
acoustic sage
where would fairies fall into this lol
Yeah they fit into this as well
Specifically being humans that occupied Ripple Star and subsequently evolved wings I guess
toxic delta
there's also People of the Sky
tacit saffron
ah, so convergent evolution
sci-fi stuff usually has human but not quite alikes
knowing 64 is inspired by that kind of genre
high widget
was enough for this question to be asked in interview
(from <https://gigi9714.wo...
btw is it nei Ch el or nei Sh el
toxic delta
ネイチェル (Neicheru)
so probably closer to the former
tacit saffron
Neichel must've been so generous to perform one more song for the audience
wonder when it will show up in the SCW stuff
I assume for the new credits screen they most likely have
though where do you all think it will appear other than that?
tepid burrow
was enough for this question to be asked in interview
(from <https://gigi9714.wo...
“Currently”
tacit saffron
“Currently”
goolo there Neichel
hybrid hornet
She will almost certainly be human, especially given everything that points to t...
so glad to see other people saying this 
velvet yacht
hybrid hornet
she could be just human-adjacent instead
but slowly becoming more and more unlik...
actually, was there anything new in regards to that revealed recently?
clever cape
I'm in Star Crossed Worlds. >:3c
lucid minnow
No flipping way-
toxic delta
actually, was there anything new in regards to that revealed recently? <:deyes:4...
not really (besides that one billboard)
hybrid hornet
oh ye the billboard is still pretty hype though
always good to have stuff acknowledged in the games
the fact it's just her hat and a microphone tells us that they are being intentionally ambiguous about it though
there needs to be like a meme for whenever they do that. Ado and Adeleine type thing, "whatever suits your headcanons, lore is vague enough to be whatever you want!"
gleaming stream
Do you think Elfilin is going to use his powers again
toxic delta
probably to some extent
glad path
Specifically being humans that occupied Ripple Star and subsequently evolved win...
What did they evolve wings from
Vertebrate wings are modified arms, but the Ripple fairies still have arms
They look like insect wings, but insect wings evolved from gills so ??? Howr???
toxic delta
oh hey SCW is now frontpage for the European sites lol
(its actual page still has not updated)
acoustic sage
What did they evolve wings from
Vertebrate wings are modified arms, but the Rip...
Beats me
I really don't like chalking stuff like this up to magic but like
toxic delta
magically gained it from eating too many insects
glad path
alternatively, lung extensions
toxic delta
I was thinking thin layer of skin(?) that just grew out lol
acoustic sage
~~magically gained it from eating too many insects~~
Bug eatin'
twin fog
they don't even explain what 'Neichel' is in base game, it's just in the credits...
If NOA were based they'd realize they fucked up and retcon Natural Plains back into Neichel Plains smh smh
toxic delta
true
especially weird since like even in English, first word in most of the other World names isn't just an actual word lol
twin fog
NOA keeping the first word in every world name a name and not a real word except the one name that actually fucking matters:
The Forgo Dreams names also still trigger me so much b/c they're all named after like
The actual names of the locations and not just the descriptive word
Me when the Plains, Bay, Park, Horns, Wasteland, Zone in English vs the Chel, Burg, Daria, Horns, Nesia, Gar in JP
hybrid hornet
Leongar ⁉️
twin fog
Gar from Redgar in this case
Forgo Zone is just
Layers of 'what the hell' in this case because like
hybrid hornet
but is there still a bit of a connection there? 
like Leongar's new name taking after the area names, which are in the Forgotten Land's language
twin fog
They translated Redgar's name as "Redgar Forbidden Lands" but then the Forgo version of the level is called Forgo Zone
And like in the Big Red Tortuilding gacha figure they called the area Redgar Forbidden Zone instead so like that's what Forgo Zone is named after
hybrid hornet
(especially since Forgo taught Leon "human language" and had him change his name which might also have been changed to suit said language)
twin fog
So why didn't they just actually name the world Redgar Forbidden Zone
sand patrol
Maybe to tie into the games title more
twin fog
but is there still a bit of a connection there? <:marxist_think:3058778553661521...
Could be
Redgar is Reddogaru in JP, Awoofy is Garurufi, Leongar is Reongarufu
sand patrol
Its only called forgotten land outside of japan
twin fog
There's a theory I see a lot that the garf ガルフ (garufu) part of Leongar's name comes from Forgo フォルガ (foruga) backwards but just フ fu instead of フォ fo
I don't remember if that's an interpretation actual JP people have or if that's just from people in EN community looking at JP names
hybrid hornet
Its only called forgotten land outside of japan
whats its original name?
twin fog
The game's called Discovery in JP
toxic delta
yeah, so instead the name drop is basically with Lab Discovera in JP
hybrid hornet
so is Discovery the name of the planet or do they just not have a name for it? lol
grave fractal
Planet Discovery does go hard as a name but nah
hybrid hornet
I don't remember if that's an interpretation actual JP people have or if that's ...
am also curious about this
vagrant hound
Sounds like some TV channel name
hybrid hornet
this entire chat is so purple rn
twin fog
But yea TL;DR the Forgo names in JP are all consistently named after the second half of the world names, NeiCHEL, EverBURG, WonDARIA, WhiteyHORNS, OrigiNESIA, RedGAR
But in English they're completely inconsistent
Forgo Plains, Forgo Horns, Forgo Wasteland are named after the second word in the world name (With Whiteyhorns having been turned into a two word name as Winter Horns)
Forgo Zone is technically too but is specifically named after an alternative translation they only used in a random figure
Meanwhile Forgo Bay is named after the second half of the name Everbay instead of being Forgo Coast
And Forgo Park isn't named after Wondaria Remains directly at all
wise flame
this entire chat is so purple rn
Sickening! 
This is star crossing a line!
toxic delta
blue jumpscare
toxic delta
But yea TL;DR the Forgo names in JP are all consistently named after the second ...
tbh I never even internalized Forgo Park not actually having any of Wondaria area name in it I think lol
why didn't they call Forgo Zone something like 'Forgo Inferno' then
hybrid hornet
so wait is it like ForgoDaria
that's pretty funny if Forgo named all their areas after themself
toxic delta
it's moreso
sand patrol
so is Discovery the name of the planet or do they just not have a name for it? l...
Its really just a thematic title
twin fog
so is Discovery the name of the planet or do they just not have a name for it? l...
I mean the place isn't called the Forgotten Land in English either
Its at best called the new world
hybrid hornet
was curious because it got me thinking, if they don't call the land the Forgotten Land in the JP fandom-
do they just call it New World?
twin fog
Yes
again the place is never called the Forgotten Land in English either outside the title of the game, its just the new world
vagrant hound
忘れられた地 sounds cool tho
twin fog
I mean I think they might've called it 'the forgotten land' in some english trailers probably
vagrant hound
The forgotten land just sounds like it’s a sentence rather than name of pls e
*place
New World is the actual name while forgotten land is just a title
vagrant hound
If the place was named forgotten land, it would be so stupid funny considering Japanese would be ディスカバリー (Discovery)
Americans has forgotten the land, Japanese has discovered the land…
twin fog
land that makes you forget it every time you step off of it
silk jewel
Lab Discovera,,,
glad path
Could be
Redgar is Reddogaru in JP, Awoofy is Garurufi, Leongar is Reongarufu
I saw "garurufi" and my first thought was garurumon
The digimon brain worms are still strong it seems
tepid burrow
Neichel Fans may still have a chance “but she is not anywhere CURRENTLY in the setting of the story”
reef patrol
The final boss summoning Neichel through time and space:
acoustic sage
We just got done with Kroc Watch, we're doing Diva Watch now
acoustic sage
Gorimondo Bananza
hybrid hornet
Adeleine/Mage Sister fight 2.0
reef patrol
One thing I’ve just considered is how will the UCZEX fit into the canon after any semblance of forgo (and by extension Elfilis) is completely gone
lean grove
the answer is it doesn't matter
wise flame
Unlikely for it to happen, but I kinda would like to see if they'll elaborate on the phantoms further here
turbid nexus
One thing I’ve just considered is how will the UCZEX fit into the canon after an...
Crystal Elfilis will come out of a portal from a world where they successfully defeated Kirby and fused with the meteorite
green crater
When in doubt, just sprinkle in some Another Dimension portal nonsense
turbid nexus
Pretty much lol
wise flame
I get it, Phantoms are explicitly stated to be shallow replicas from Elfilis' memories... and they're just there to serve as EX bosses...
But are these things capable of being more than mere reflections?
turbid nexus
Aside from Phantom Meta Knight
Probably not
I can see Phantom MK being more rouge since they’re made from leftover energy, but I think the Phantoms are just mindless followers
wise flame
It would be interesting to have an EX boss that is more of its own thing, rather than a mere replica or "retelling" of a prior battle
tribal igloo
https://fxtwitter.com/kirby_jp/status/1954740086094090559?s=46&t=KjgI8a61BxDiubZ...
👀👀👀👀👀👀
wise flame
Another unlikely change: In the basegame postgame, they'll give the Isolated Isles mid-bosses their much needed redesigns
toxic delta
probably not
I do hope they give unique Kirby Dance and results theme variant at least though
and obviously give thought beasts (enemies usually containing Soul piece) a figure
hybrid hornet
it kinda feels like star-crossed world is pulling and rtdlx and being written in alongside the events of Forgotten Land
hybrid hornet
One thing I’ve just considered is how will the UCZEX fit into the canon after an...
though you'd think the crystal stuff still happens like, After Fecto Elfilis
if this were a DLC i wouldn't be surprised if it all happened before Fecto, but it's kind of a remake, right?
wise flame
Another unlikely change: In the basegame postgame, they'll give the Isolated Isl...
Honestly the main reason I think it's unlikely is that the phantom bosses' designs were clearly made as a little surprise
hybrid hornet
They don't even get to stick around - they didn't want Another set of clones just running around
wise flame
SCW is very much something after postgame
hybrid hornet
They don't even get to stick around - they didn't want Another set of clones jus...
(we have a lot of those. Like, we got mirror counterparts, AD mirror counterparts from clash, Star Allies parallels, probably even more)
twin fog
The Star Allies parallels are still alive as far as we know though
wise flame
I think the main reason why they've decided to have SCW be accessed as soon as Gorimondo's defeat is more a business/marketing/something
hybrid hornet
that's what i meant yeah
twin fog
oh yea I misread what you meant
hybrid hornet
I think the main reason why they've decided to have SCW be accessed as soon as G...
buh 
that'd be so immersion breaking though
It's really going to be Magoland 2.0
green crater
We'll just have to wait and see how they approach it in game
wise flame
buh <:crine:237051763298009090> that'd be so immersion breaking though
Magolor Epilogue was one of the main selling points of RTDLDX, but unfortunately due to everything going on in that mode, you have to actually need to beat the story for anything to make sense
hybrid hornet
huh, maybe they added Magoland specifically to make the rest of the game newer... oh and the new abilities. actually something similar happening here, there
wise flame
SCW seems like it's somewhat addressing this thing, they'll probably still state the events of it to happen way AFTER FL, but the initial presentation would say otherwise... "just another adventure"
Anyways, back to phantoms:
If FL is making their arenas canon, they'll have to imply why the phantoms exist here [In UCZEX]...
hybrid hornet
i feel like it'd be less complicated if the star stuff just got "retconned" into FL
this whole thing, whether the stuff is after or during FL,
feels like it's Still going to be ambiguous even after the game releases lmao
toxic delta
Anyways, back to phantoms:
If FL is making their arenas canon, they'll *have* to...
I mean they already basically did, mysterious vortexes
wise flame
Well yeah for UCZ
toxic delta
same as base game
wise flame
but ex
hybrid hornet
I mean they already basically did, mysterious vortexes
oh god they got yoinked through time from when they still existed so you could fight them in the future
Forgotten Land has so much time travel. everywhere.
wise flame
Very much implied UCZ's weirdness is because of Elfilis' final attempts of reforming
So whatever goes on in UCZEX, something else has to be interfering instead
toxic delta
same as base game
'The influence of the meteor reaches even here... Things are looking bad!' moment
wise flame
what the
toxic delta
from Spanish overview
toxic delta
no it's all the European trailers but the UK one
(though UK does still show the inside unlike US and the Asian ones, but still cuts before the dialogue)
hybrid hornet
maybe we'll get arena "lore" with how it always lets you fight "past" foes
glad path
How would you even fight neichel
Adult humans in the kirbyverse are probably capable of pulling crazy nonsensical bullshit
I don't have any evidence for this I just think it'd be funny
wise flame
The crystals could give us a clue
hybrid hornet
Adeleine being able to create lviing drawings:
wise flame
Simply that the darned things just manifest whole creatures and landscapes out of nothing
...or is it merely giving us a perspective of something we couldn't see otherwise?
hybrid hornet
actually? all the crystal stuff does kinda fix a small gripe I have with forgotten land
wise flame
Like these crystals could be the means for separate realities to exist simultaneously
hybrid hornet
in that it gives the area The Fantasy it was severely lacking in before
glad path
Adult humans in the kirbyverse are probably capable of pulling crazy nonsensical...
Us in 2040 when we gotta fight a human guy in the newest kirby game and he just creates a whole-ass dinosaur on the spot (it's peak)
hybrid hornet
Us in 2040 when we gotta fight a human guy in the newest kirby game and he just ...
Adeleine drawing up an Ice Dragon:
by the way your name makes me doubt if I'm spelling Adeleine correctkly
wise flame
Honestly as cool as these earth-like locales are, I still yearn for alien landscapes
Adeleine is how she's spelled
I do not know why it is, but it is
hybrid hornet
bc fantasy
hybrid hornet
Honestly as cool as these earth-like locales are, I still yearn for alien landsc...
It's only really cool if you believe human civilization theory
otherwise it's like.. this failed attempt to make the civilization "mysterious" by "not leaving" any evidence to who they were
green crater
I think it's fun as a contrast to the silliness that is usual for Kirby. Makes the place feel more alien (to the games)
But yeah I'm excited to see what weird crystal stuff they come up with
hybrid hornet
like they tried to do that by making it "generic" but what is "generic" in a fantasy world?
glad path
I do wish there were some wacky aliens that stuck around
So far we've got like, Hyness, but he's only been in Star Allies and... SKC for some reason apparently
wise flame
The thing about Forgotten Land's setting is that, sure there's worldbuilding and a little history with specific places... But ultimately the game and the story focus more on the aftermath of the civilization than concern itself with how it ended
SCW might be where they finally focus on the past a bit more
glad path
I think it ended with everyone leaving bc it's way too intact for the most part for it to have been a disaster of any kind
wise flame
Even without SCW, there's clearly a lot of subtle hints all over the place that could imply what these former residents looked like
turbid nexus
I think it's fun as a contrast to the silliness that is usual for Kirby. Makes t...
Yeah
Problem with making this world feel more alien is that Kirby is already alien enough lol
wise flame
We know their fashion, which is very much familiar...
The animals they've left behind look more like our creatures at home, sure a few differences but you can clearly tell what they are...
The infrastructure and non-science technology also are familiar...
hybrid hornet
We know their fashion, which is very much familiar...
The animals they've left b...
frrr
Kirby enemies always so abstract less than 30% of them are even Inspired by animals
meanwhile Forgotten Land looking like a Zoo
wise flame
You don't just leave all that around and expect us to somehow think them to be anything other than humanity
glad path
The bull guys (I don't remember their name off the top of my head) are so funny
hybrid hornet
i think they incorporate bison into their name?
it's so funny, like you look at the Enemy chart for Forgotten Land and Every Single One is an animal of some kind. Except Gordo Bar and a cardboard cutout
turbid nexus
The bull guys (I don't remember their name off the top of my head) are so funny
Buffahorn
hybrid hornet
every new enemy FL adds, i mean
glad path
How did Gordo bar happen
wise flame
Sure, floaty arms are essentially Kirby's answer to alien "humans"...
hybrid hornet
We know their fashion, which is very much familiar...
The animals they've left b...
there's also the astronaut cutout photo booth thing
wise flame
But these guys- er girls... they're very much their own thing... Also we've seen enough of them...
hybrid hornet
so real
hybrid hornet
they're too common, I've seen people say it's almost kind of been standardized in a way
also forgotten land enemies/characters are Weird in Another way
in that they all have legs and arms
wise flame
So many floaty armed girls in the modern age...
When will we get armed girls?
No susie does not count just because she has a gun
hybrid hornet
in that they all have legs and arms
it's smth that's not normal in the Kirby franchise. They're orbs with feet. There are a Few, like Bonkers, but it's definitely uncommon
glad path
My theory on the jambastion mages is that they were human before hyness saved them with magic (they seem to have shoulders, which doesn't make sense for a being with floating hands unless they didn't always have those)
wise flame
I hope HAL doesn't imply or confirm Forgotten Land residents to be a subset of humans who previously left Earth
Because I very much want my crack theory to remain a crack theory and not a prophecy
hybrid hornet
My theory on the jambastion mages is that they were human before hyness saved th...
RIP living weapon Mage Sisters
we could've had the fandom explode with Galaxia forms
hybrid hornet
I hope HAL doesn't imply or confirm Forgotten Land residents to be a subset of h...
I'm pretty sure they're going to remain intentionally ambiguous about whether they were human forever
glad path
My theory on the jambastion mages is that they were human before hyness saved th...
This would also explain why they have such human skin tones
hybrid hornet
Ig I'll still appreciate all the little newer hints they drop about it, but it'll always be fushigi and "ufufufu i wonder~"
I do hope it becomes more of an Ado/Adeleine thing where it's really obvious but Technically Still Not Confirmed
glad path
My other take on humanity in Kirby is that Adeleine might be the only friendly one and we haven't seen the others because they aren't so friendly anymore
hybrid hornet
if those last two arent references to any other franchises, who are they
wise flame
They're all in Dreamland 3
green crater
My personal headcanon anymore is that humans are common in the galaxy, but that they just don't often visit where Kirby is
glad path
My other take on humanity in Kirby is that Adeleine might be the only friendly o...
(Halcandra + interdimensional space travel may have fucked them up a bit)
wise flame
Granted they're just cameo characters who happen to also be holding a collectable essential to beating the final boss, so maybe they don't count?
hybrid hornet
I hope they get retconned out in a remake frfr
wise flame
But that's like saying that "Bob from x game" didn't happen even though dude contributed to the plot
hybrid hornet
Girl blob is the true canon /j
wise flame
(Halcandra + interdimensional space travel may have fucked them up a bit)
Space travel, always fucks up everyone
glad path
Samus in particular is weird bc if she's canon, then so is the rest of Metroid which means there's two ancient civilizations bc the chozo
hybrid hornet
yeah i Do Not Like crossovers
doesn't particularly matter with what I think
I'm usually not fixated on two things at the same time, I have no idea what happens in Metroid or whatever jp game Chao is from
wise flame
This is probably like a Portal/Half Life situation where, even if both exist in the same universe... ultimately it doesn't matter
Oh Chao
hybrid hornet
if i ever wrote something I would avoid acknowledging any of those cameos At All Costs
wise flame
YOu know
glad path
I mean I lowkey think Metroid is in the kirbyverse but comically far away 99% of the time
hybrid hornet
okay that does make the goku memes funnier though
wise flame
Yeah maybe we shouldn't consider Dreamland 3 Cameos canon actually
hybrid hornet
LMAO
wise flame
We got goku here man I- I don't think we can let that slide
green crater
Just wave your hands and go "Another Dimension is mysterious". Maybe the cameo characters fell into a portal and ended up in the Kirby universe or something
hybrid hornet
there's no solid timeline therefor we exist in the timeline where the cameo characters were someone else
wise flame
if you care about your sanity, sure go ahead
hybrid hornet
Samus was a UFO
wise flame
Otherwise if you care not for yourself for the sake of sadistic mind enjoyment...
Uh well Goku's canon
wise flame
Despite being set in an industrialized world
Forgotten Land sure does lack pipe-action
Robobot's got more pipe action
opaque crater
1-2. 
opaque crater
Is Tom Nook canon? (Robobot Stone cameo)
glad path
Just wait, SCW will have us go through a pipe and then have to turn around because they're crawling out of the pipes
wise flame
Hamster-ass movement
opaque crater
Hamster-ass movement
Hamster tubes but no Rick. Typical.
glad path
Random but
I'm surprised we've never had a derelict space station level (unless you count Jambandra base but I don't bc it's not really derelict and it's so far removed from space station aesthetics)
Jambandra is made of bones
glad path
I thought of like
A level where you go through a space station, but there's no one there, and when you reach a certain point...
You hear footsteps from the outside above you
that might be too scary for this series actually
wise flame
"So you found the computer room"
green crater
I do hope we get some more horror-adjacent stuff like Forgo
wise flame
You know we've done quite a bit of horror as of late
...I think we need more... beauty
glad path
I think I've talked about it before but I'm shocked HAL hasn't tried the "different blood color" trick (though Forgo's chimera form is basically this but with animal flesh)
toxic delta
I mean, Void Termina's is more pink
hybrid hornet
...I think we need more... beauty
Sectonia revived ⁉️
toxic delta
I mean, Void Termina's is more pink
enough that it can be mistaken for just bodily fluids in general
took me years to learn that it was supposed to be blood lol
wise flame
I think this new Rat character will contrast itself a bit more
Elfilis was, gooey... slimey... revolting... furry
The other rat will be an inverse...
tepid burrow
Elfilis was, gooey... slimey... revolting... furry
glad path
Forgo's face in chimera form is just raw Leongar face flesh
It doesn't mesh with the green sludge and it's textured differently
wise flame
The rat will be... tough... shiny... beautiful... bald
glad path
And the eyes don't fit in the sockets
toxic delta
looks pretty similar to normal Forgo color-wise
wise flame
Although TBH I'm uncertain if the final boss will even be crystallized
Considering that uh, we need those to seal it
Then again that new mid-boss implies that it may be able to utilize those same crystals to its own gain
Assuming those guys are the product of it
toxic delta
looks pretty similar to normal Forgo color-wise
it's just Lab Discovera there has pretty heavy blue lighting
wise flame
I wonder if the rat will be pink
hybrid hornet
wise flame
The fucking swiss elfilin
hybrid hornet
full of cheese
glad path
Elfilis has mostly exaggerated mammal characteristics (albeit the "horns" might be mandibles lined with proboscises)
What if the new villain has mostly exaggerated amphibian/reptile characteristics
wise flame
Elfilis is what they eat
toxic delta
Elfilis also has axolotl ones
glad path
Evil frog time
wise flame
Although, are these "rats" inherently mammalian, or is this just the result of surplus mammal consumption?
toxic delta
but anyway I'd like to see one with different kind of insect traits
wise flame
Elfilis very much seems like another "anti-kirby" of sorts
toxic delta
moreso the whole 'can become many things/anything' kind of thing
glad path
Why does Elfilis have human-like hands actually
Did Forgo eat a human at some point
hybrid hornet
some of the animals still have five digits
wise flame
I do hope this final boss does its own plot-beats rather than try to be like Elfilis...
toxic delta
moreso the whole 'can become many things/anything' kind of thing
they really like doing those lol
and other stuff that has lot of potential to be done with them
wise flame
Elfilis' motivation was from exploitation and abuse, so of course it enacts radical plans
hybrid hornet
maybe the animals take after what was once the FL civilization
and that's why they're anthropomorphized lol
wise flame
Meanwhile, we have yet to learn why this rat needs to be imprisoned
hybrid hornet
or Forgo just made them like that for their own reasons
glad path
I don't think it's from Leongar or any of the animals tbh
They look way more human (Leongar's hands are still very clearly distorted lion paws)
hybrid hornet
Meanwhile, we have yet to learn *why* this rat needs to be imprisoned
planet destroying meteor, could end up technically not being their fault if they had no control over where the meteor was going
toxic delta
Meanwhile, we have yet to learn *why* this rat needs to be imprisoned
well it's got the power of darkness....Elfilis had nothing like that
hybrid hornet
WAIT THE FIRST RESULT FOR EVIL ELFILIN IS
wise flame
Hrm, but it can't be dark hearts because we've already seen how they work
glad path
Da roach
hybrid hornet
I don't think it's from Leongar or any of the animals tbh
They look way more hum...
i think this is a pretty good shot of their hands kind of hard to find
wise flame
Seems like with Corrupted Hyness, an excess amount of negativity can just cocoon him in the stuff
tepid burrow
WAIT THE FIRST RESULT FOR EVIL ELFILIN IS
Daroach and Elfilin are Brothers!1!2!1
wise flame
Meanwhile the "dark star" we see here looks partially petrified
hybrid hornet
i think this is a pretty good shot of their hands <:marxist_think:30587785536615...
The hands would look kinda feminine instead of distorted if the thumb wasn't so far away from everything else
glad path
Why are they so big
green crater
For the same reason the feet are six feet long
green crater
I'm referring to the sticks as the feet
sand patrol
It diesnt need feet cause it floats everywhere
glad path
That's how ungulate legs are proportioned if you think about it
glad path
Jackelopes are cool but their possible real-world basis is kinda sad
heady ravine
probably
hybrid hornet
full image
wise flame
Jackelopes are cool but their possible real-world basis is kinda sad
Considering what a desparate Fecto Forgo looks like... it... also checks out
hybrid hornet
you mean that gif?
green crater
I'm referring to the sticks as the feet
It's just funny to read it this way to me
hybrid hornet
on their tip toes
glad path
you mean that gif?
Yeah
There was a video at some point too though
Their whole two of them
Horse-type anatomy
hybrid hornet
what are jackalopes real world basis i cant find anything
glad path
(Horses have a single toe per leg)
hybrid hornet
Considering what a *desparate* Fecto Forgo looks like... it... also checks out
do you mean like how they're a mish mash of two creatures instead of one natural creature
sand patrol
It is kinda insane they were able to make an alien looking character in a series full of alien characters
hybrid hornet
(and also they are fictional before anyone comes at me)
hybrid hornet
It is kinda insane they were able to make an alien looking character in a series...
and it still looks alien when taken out of context
wise flame
do you mean like how they're a mish mash of two creatures instead of one natural...
No it's to do more with the aformentioned "sad" part... A sickly cause for supposed IRL sightings...
Elfilis gives me the impression of a cancer, especially in its melted form
Which that reminds me we still don't actually know how Elfilis invaded...
sand patrol
I think the art designers always do a super good job at making weirdly creepy but not out of line stylistically final bosses
wise flame
All the power it has demonstrated to us when complete, and yet... it messes with only the animals
You don't just arrive to a civilized planet if you're only going after the fauna explicitly
sand patrol
I wonder if it has a limit on what it can control
ocean ingot
?
sand patrol
Maybe it expected to control the people if the FL
wise flame
Unless Elfilis' species is persecuted
sand patrol
But they were too intelligent so they could fight back
We also know it has the goal of conquest
Not nessesarily destruction
wise flame
It's apparent now the larval form is more of an emergency response rather than a mere loss of self
So could Elfilis have arrived to FL in such a form?
wise flame
Perhaps?
toxic delta
It's apparent now the larval form is more of an emergency response rather than a...
not really
sand patrol
I think the figure description makes that pretty apparent
Even the lab discovera intercom
It was one being that separated into two
toxic delta
not really
it's the form 'before gaining wings' (becoming adult) so it isn't like it was never in it before
sand patrol
So add them together you get the full form again
toxic delta
it's the form 'before gaining wings' (becoming adult) so it isn't like it was ne...
we have no idea if normal Larva form is one-to-one in abilities (or lack of)
wise flame
Hrm...
toxic delta
also keep in mind Elfilin is a 'child' in comparison, whatever you make of that
wise flame
So either, this new rat has undergone a similar situation like Elfilis and is missing a piece of itself...
...Or what I've said earlier about "emergency response"
toxic delta
or it could have just never fully developed
sand patrol
Id imagine elfilin is a new species
wise flame
So weird this all is
sand patrol
Born form unique circumstances
wise flame
Like this species can both age and de-age...
sand patrol
Not like the separation was natural to begin with
wise flame
or is "larval" more just alluding to its state of being than age??
Man this is all weird-
toxic delta
Id imagine elfilin is a new species
don't really treat it too much like one like with Chaos Elfilis but we'll have to see
since circumstances with Forgo and Elfilin are weird anyway
sand patrol
Also without the eternal stasis pod fecto would turn to goo
green crater
Maybe the heart is an egg and the things inside it is actually an infant
sand patrol
Do its really just maintaining any form it can
Hence why it becomes an amalgamized animal thing when it escapes containment
toxic delta
Maybe the heart is an egg and the things inside it is actually an infant
oh maybe
could also be like a cocoon
sand patrol
Could also be like elfilis where its simply reverting to its larva form when contained
wise flame
Coping mechanism
tepid burrow
I think Neichel may be a soothsayer.
now I’m going crazy
Think about it… could Neichel know about the Forgotten Land being well forgotten?
And could she know about the crystals falling on the forgotten land in Star Crossed World?
tepid burrow
I told you i was going crazy
green crater
Speculation can be fun
vagrant hound
Chaos Neichelfilis
heady ravine
it aint that deep
Why can''t it be?
tepid burrow
Chaos Neichelfilis
sand patrol
Why can''t it be?
why cant anything be then
we pretty m ch know what she is there really isnt ambiguity
tepid burrow
What if Neichel was a Alien
tepid burrow
See can see the future with her crystallized eyes
reef patrol
Imagine if we get a figurine of the Neichel billboard so we can learn more about her, that’d be neat
tepid burrow
Imagine if we get a figurine of the Neichel billboard so we can learn more about...
Yes
wise flame
"Ah finally, Neichel paraphernalia!"
A rusty ass advertisement sign in figurine form
tepid burrow
I’m done here, more Neichel Speculations tomorrow
What did the overview trailer do to me-
reef patrol
"Ah finally, Neichel paraphernalia!"
> A rusty ass advertisement sign in figuri...
I thought of it being the billboard instead of Neichel herself because HAL wants to keep the appearance of the new world citizens unknown
wise flame
She will be in the thumbnail one day
tepid burrow
I Hope your hearing this Shinya Kumazaki
wise flame
Kumazaki can you add Adeleine thank you
I do not care if she's irrelevant I just think it'll be funny
tepid burrow
Neichel is Adeleines Daughter
turbid nexus
Imagine if we get a figurine of the Neichel billboard so we can learn more about...
That be cool
Honestly I still feel like Neichel will show up in some way
Not sure how but I feel like we might get something lol
tepid burrow
Neichel IS the reason why Adeleine went to Popstar to study it
turbid nexus
I doubt she’s whatever that damn meteor is
wise flame
"Hey so when we all ascended apparently that meant we ceased to exist in our current forms"
"Of course, not everyone handled this prospect very well..."
tepid burrow
I Need Neichel to have a big part in Star-Crossed World
tepid burrow
Somebody has to stay behind
The beast pack and Neichel
wise flame
Ah, pop singers
You see them, then you don't
What career choices did she make to remain in this decrepit wilderness?
Hrm... that reminds me... the radio...
...Could be cartoon logic but... something has to have been running the station for any songs to play...
tepid burrow
I still wonder of how Neichel would be inside a meteor
Maybe Neichel has some connection to ID-F86
Like a Shadow and Maria situation
reef patrol
No way, Neichel gets shot by the government
rustic crow
this screenshot is awesome
"Hol' up
Their art is THIS fire?!🔥🔥🔥🙌🏿"
sand patrol
That be cool
Honestly I still feel like Neichel will show up in some way
Not sur...
i think they are gunna leave her as a visual reference
just background nods
and maybea figure of a billboard
but i think its clear she is more of an easter egg for the hardcore fans
green crater
...Could be cartoon logic but... something *has* to have been running the statio...
Probably the same way the carnival rides are still running
sand patrol
its almost ARGish with how she is handled which is funny
tepid burrow
You guys should start believing that Neichel is going to appear in the story of Star-Crossed World
sand patrol
ill star beliving when she is not a million years dead and burried
tepid burrow
The World will never know
green crater
You guys should start believing that Neichel is going to appear in the story of ...
I can give you a "it'll be really funny if she does"
tepid burrow
The World will never know
unless it’s 3 or 1 days before the DLC releases
turbid nexus
Honestly there’s like
One part of me hoping they just pull a Rosalina and have her be implied to be the mother of the Starries because like
Honestly that would be really funny
That’s just my reasoning
It would be funny
tepid burrow
I’m going to calm down now I’ve been talking cuckoo crazy since like 6:32 PM 
glad path
Something I find peculiar is that the island around the meteor entity looks like it's been bleached, in comparison to the entity's deep red and black palette
Probably just to draw your eyes to it, but wouldn't be shocked if it has deeper implications
green crater
Sometimes it's all you can manage, in the hopes that in the future the next time maybe someone can do something more permanent
wise flame
You know, there's a whole race of things specifically tasked to seal an evil and nothing else... but yet when the seal is broken, they themselves are sealed...
Something is not adding up
And it doesn't seem like sealing the heart back up is going to end the adventure... not with what the crystal has demonstrated towards the Forgotten Land
These crystals have done nothing but empower things... Perhaps we're once again dealing with a rat who's used a normally kind race for its own selfish gain
Maybe the Starries don't know they're secretly helping the great evil all along??
Or maybe they do (but are glad we're helping), and we're the ones making a wrong inference??
tacit saffron
And it doesn't seem like *sealing* the heart back up is going to end the adventu...
with the platform rising the 2 up from the volcano to a perhaps bigger and more appropriate battle arena?
then surely they're already at the new climax
with the meteor nowhere in sight
wise flame
Despite it being only 3-ish weeks before release, it still feels too early to speculate on these sorts of plotpoints
tacit saffron
perhaps this is the equivalent when they had Kirby in the cutscene before you fight Elfilis shown in the trailer
out of context
teasing
wise flame
as per all trailers
tacit saffron
indeed
however every other time we've seen of this volcano so far this doesn't match if going by what we're given
no platform appearing in the sky with thunderous clouds around
muted hawk
This happened
tacit saffron
sand patrol
I dont get it
vagrant hound
acoustic sage
I wonder if there'll be any moments where we actually have to put the gear into a mechanism
vagrant hound
or is this just the JP Twitter one
same as JP twitter post
toxic delta
ah okay
tacit saffron
Do i see Neichel?! <:Kapar:749732683852283965>
right there ⬇️
⬅️
tepid burrow
sand patrol
The remix of abandoned beach is so good
random tendon
same as JP twitter post
no wonder it looked familiar
west smelt
pre-ordered the upgrade pack
but I have to come back on the 28th to pick up the code from Gamestop
sand patrol
for other volumes of the EX figures is the astronomer waddle dee just gunna pull out a different colored box
sand patrol
the surface level is my favorite level
tepid burrow
https://twitter.com/aquamarine0424/status/1953661259448299692
MAGOLOR?!
But honestly, what does this mean?
tepid burrow
We need more Neichel Predictions now
wise flame
Adeleine
tepid burrow
So your saying that Neichel could be Adeleine grown up?
wise flame
Well no that's silly
Although, Neichel is kinda green-ish in her attire
Might be Adeleine-adjacent but...
tepid burrow
Still saying that Neichel and Adeleine Are Family
ocean ingot
https://twitter.com/aquamarine0424/status/1953661259448299692
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-# https://fxtwitter.com/aquamarine0424/status/1953661259448299692
wise flame
Still saying that Neichel and Adeleine Are Family
Well it's possible
tepid burrow
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@ yukkuri73
wise flame
Then again Adeleine must be in some sorta situation if she's willingly visited planets on her own
ocean ingot
Lowkey forgot to send this lol
Bro's foot is attached by like a thread lol
tepid burrow
Superman scenario
wise flame
I really do hope the volcano will be industrialized
ocean ingot
Kirby is just young magolor...... arms become ears and the feet fully detach and turn in hands......... /j
wise flame
Do starries even have a culture to begin with? Can they even build villages or a town??
tepid burrow
Lowness, what’s your Neichel predictions for SCW?
olive coral
But honestly, what does this mean?
NO IDEA :D
tepid burrow
I still believe that Neichel is going to be a big part of the story
wise flame
Hrm, with the ability to play SCW alongside the Base Story...
Assuming that SCW is set after the Base Game, would they only allow us to play up until the Forbidden Lands?
ocean ingot
?
we know Star-Crossed World happens alongside the story
sudden mirage
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magolor is trapped inside that rock
vagrant hound
👄
sudden mirage
it’s like pauline
ocean ingot
Starries are like jawbreakers and Magolor is in the center......
tepid burrow
Kumazaki Said in the interview from the June 2022 edition of Nintendo Dream he said she is not anywhere “currently” in the setting of the story
wise flame
Again this is only assuming that SCW is intended to be post-story but has been designed to work as if it works alongside the main game
tepid burrow
Neichel will appear again, trust
wise flame
I think for a first time perspective, I think it'd be better in terms of pacing to stop introducing SCW levels after winter horns
sand patrol
Kumazaki Said in the interview from the June 2022 edition of Nintendo Dream he s...
this is coded talk for she is dead
wise flame
Then after getting Elfilin back will the Forbidden Lands get its new levels
tepid burrow
I still believe she’s going to have a big part anyways
sudden mirage
I think scw works best if you look at it as a Thing That Happens at any point you choose during the story
tepid burrow
Realize that I’m not going super crazy this time everyone?
wise flame
I think scw works best if you look at it as a Thing That Happens at any point yo...
perhaps
arctic gale
Neichel final boss where she forces you into a rhythm game
sand patrol
I think scw works best if you look at it as a Thing That Happens at any point yo...
Im going to guess the last part will be post game though
At least fighting the final boss
tepid burrow
Maybe she won’t be the final boss, she probably will appear at the end of the story
arctic gale
Maybe concert style cutscene for 100% like in robobot
Or 110% idk how much percent is star crossed world
tepid burrow
arctic gale
A kirbfied recreation of welcome to the new world from music fest 
toxic delta
Or 110% idk how much percent is star crossed world
they'll probably just treat it like SA did for Wave 3
tepid burrow
A kirbfied recreation of welcome to the new world from music fest <:TeeHee_Magol...
I will lose my mind
toxic delta
they'll probably just treat it like SA did for Wave 3
put crown on save file
green crater
A kirbfied recreation of welcome to the new world from music fest <:TeeHee_Magol...
That one fan art that puts Kirby and Elfilin in the clothes they wore during the duet!!!
tepid burrow
Besides may be speaking off-topic why is there so many Kirby 64 references in Forgotten Land
wise flame
Elaborate
arctic gale
That one fan art that puts Kirby and Elfilin in the clothes they wore during the...
That fanart is still so cute 🫶
wise flame
I'm aware of the factory level theme taking heavy cues from Kirby 64, but I can't recall what else
arctic gale
Clutter needle?
rustic crow
I really do hope the volcano will be industrialized
(Team Maga enters the chat)
arctic gale
Ahh thats all that comes to mind right now
tepid burrow
02 exists
wise flame
Yes but like
tepid burrow
I misread
ocean ingot
Volcano Fire, which resembles Fire + Rock
tepid burrow
Sorry
wise flame
ok
ocean ingot
Rock + Needle being a Drill, which yeah
wise flame
arright. Anyways uh...
arctic gale
Kirbys kinda always liked having little references here and there and i think forgotten land has notably less reference action going on than previous games
green crater
That fanart is still so cute 🫶
I found it, squee
https://twitter.com/kanokiwa/status/1557766152319029248?t=BqUjonwNjwVyJesqVOMtmQ&s=19
X
tepid burrow
Does Kumazaki love putting lots of Kirby 64 references in the games?
wise flame
You know I wonder if SCW will continue being original in terms of content and narrative
arctic gale
I found it, squee
https://twitter.com/kanokiwa/status/1557766152319029248?t=BqU...
Ooh yay! Yeah i love that
ocean ingot
Bomb + Spark is a lightbulb used to light up stuff
wise flame
Or will it bring in more callbacks?
arctic gale
I was struggling finding it a while ago
ocean ingot
Five morbillion more Magolor references
green crater
I had to hunt through canvas curse lol
tepid burrow
I found it, squee
https://twitter.com/kanokiwa/status/1557766152319029248?t=BqU...
Maybe Neichels voice actor will be Elfilins voice in SCW
green crater
I honestly just wanted an excuse to share it again. It's one of my favorites
twin fog
What does this mean
Like they recast her?
wise flame
Neichel won't appear physically, we will see her in some form of forgotten media
ocean ingot
a HAL room with a vhs of a Neichel performance
twin fog
a HAL room with a picture of kumazaki
tepid burrow
a HAL room with a picture of Brobo
wise flame
In the end of the story, Elfilis brought popstar into the fight
You'd think we'll take the next fight into popstar?
tepid burrow
You'd think we'll take the next fight into popstar?
twin fog
no
green crater
a HAL room with a vhs of a Neichel performance
Super low res with scan lines
arctic gale
Maybe kracko is the final boss
tepid burrow
Maybe kracko is the final boss
Could be!
arctic gale
Crystal platform suspiciously going up into the sky? You know who lives in the sky- Kracko
tepid burrow
Should i stop being crazy?
shrewd oracle
The final boss will be skully
tepid burrow
💡
wise flame
Very transition-y looking elevator
arctic gale
Just one skully
tepid burrow
The final boss will be Evil Elfilin
wise flame
We're not much going inside something, we're going into somewhere
wise flame
Man I just want at least 1 space world
wise flame
"star crossed" like no way in hell will it all be within the planet
tepid burrow
arctic gale
Space kracko
wise flame
When are we gonna cross some stars??
wise flame
That's the secret boss
tepid burrow
Woody from Toy Story Is the final boss