Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)

[wise flame]

"Realistically", for this being something that's heavily highlighted far more than Mario Party or Zelda...
At the very least even if the new content is smaller than the base game, there could probably be some sort of replayability factor that makes up for it

The new coins seem to allude to something that can only be obtained from playing SCW levels...

[lean grove]

i mean i assume that you use starry coins to buy upgrades like ability evolutions

bare minimum of what they could add

i also think starry coins will probably be exchangable for rare stones

because the base game has a severe problem in renewable rare stones

[wise flame]

In the base game, Star-coins could be used for the following:

• Purchase evolutions
• Upgrade evolutions
• Purchase drugs
• Purchase food
• Pay to retry the arenas
• Gatcha figures
• Tip the local musicians

But then now it becomes a matter of... who's gonna buy our starry-coins??

[sand patrol]

prolyl the waddle dee

[sand patrol]

thinking about this now

isnt that what a lot of expansions are

[lean grove]

usually the DLC is either a side story during the main game, or the only post game because it lacked a post game to begin with, or it's a completely new disconnected area from the rest of the game that reuses the main mechanics

going back to old areas is just not a great expansion experience

[toxic delta]

I mean, this is actual original parts of the areas

and not just reuse in the way Forgo Dreams mostly is

only overlap is at the beginning

either way, it is 'postgame 2' but like....that is what SA updates (HiAD and Soul Melter EX; technically you can also include update Dream Friend Guest Stars in that I guess since you need to beat that mode to access them anyway) and RtDL DX Magolor Epilogue did too lol

and I mean, what else can you do without like fucking up the main game too much (almost nothing)

either way, it is on a pretty big scale at least (and kind in mind they have been holding back on showing stuff), 12+ stages with original remixes, and new enemies/midbosses (including variants) and new figures and new story (with seemingly a new hub) and other new songs and new Mouthfuls (aka more Treasure Roads too)
and likely a new Cup of some sort and potentially new ability (evolution)

(also it's 11 GB, if you care about game filesizes for this kind of thing for some reason)

[sand patrol]

Looks like it does use a lot of unique assets

Ifk if base FL upped its texture rezz either

Its hard to tell with the resolution difference

[toxic delta]

probably did

[robust tundra]

they probably did yea

i did notice some higher textures on a comparison

[trim sail]

Can you send the comparison video?

[robust tundra]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7sG2GO1DMs

[trim sail]

Not seeing anything that indicates they improved texture quality, they are the same textures just at a higher resolution

[twin fog]

It'd be great if they had released any screenshots of Switch 1 stuff but its all the new stuff in screenshots
I'm pretty sure they've shown few seconds of video footage of switch 1 areas at least but idk

Also wait why does Kirby look so low poly in this image wtf

[wild rune]

why does his head have a dent

[sudden mirage]

had to get it to 60 fps somehow!

[broken void]

Sorry I shaved a bit off his head for my bubblegum milkshake

It really doesn't taste as good without premium kirby ingredients

[toxic delta]

they did on official sites, but can't find larger versions of them (though I swear they posted them somewhere)

https://vxtwitter.com/Kirby_JP/status/1907443359536607242 oh right also on official Twitter lol

星のカービィ (@Kirby_JP)

『星のカービィ ディスカバリー Nintendo Switch 2 edition + スターリーワールド』は、Nintendo Switch版に比べて、画面の解像度やフレームレートが向上しているとのことっ！
より快適に遊べちゃうそうですよ♪
発売が待ちきれません～っ！
#星のカービィディスカバリー
#スターリーワールド https://t.co/kMydyi6eWK

vxTwitter / fixvx · Apr 2, 2025, 2:41 PM

[twin fog]

ah nice

[toxic delta]

https://store-jp.nintendo.com/item/software/D70010000096660 eShop page for Switch 2 Edition (not Upgrade Pass) also has some of them, if it makes a difference

[craggy dove]

I’m excited that Star Crossed World is coming out in little more than a month YAY!

[violet gorge]

Wait, this is actually a significant upgrade in graphics
Kudos to Hal

[warm briar]

But do you think this is Bandana Waddle Dee or another Waddle Dee?

[wise flame]

Whole other character

[warm briar]

While I really hope it's Bandana Waddle Dee, a redesign would be nice

[tardy mortar]

nah it's not Bandee

Bandee will always have a bandana

unless they rename the character

[tardy mortar]

Do you think Bandee deserves a name

[sand patrol]

this cant be bandee cause we have seen that bandeee has the same role in this game

[twin fog]

There is literally -5000 reason to think this is Bandana Waddle Dee other than the fact that their hat is a vaguely similar color

Me staring at Camera Waddle Dee who is clearly Bandana Waddle Dee's alter ego

[high widget]

i thought we already saw them being different

[toxic delta]

yeah, there's like a 1% chance of them being the same lmao
and that's if they: make BWD show up in non-prerendered cutscenes even in single-player (unlikely), force BWD to change outfits just for cutscenes and never show astronomer out of there (also unlikely), and not take into account that the rest of the game also has various themed Waddle Dees of this variety

keep in mind we've already seen BWD in multiplayer and they're the same as base game there

[sand patrol]

im thinking this is how you either access SCW from waddle dee town or he will buy stuff with the starry coins

or both

likely both

[ocean ingot]

Isn't it Assistant with the blue beanie? I thought Camera was the one with the green backwards cap

[vagrant hound]

Which camera dee

[toxic delta]

yeah Camera is the one that looks dead-inside lmao

him.... 💚

[vagrant hound]

So yeah

Same character

I swear the camera dee kills me

[toxic delta]

forgot there was another camera dee...

[high widget]

I kinda wanna see more Kirby games with random dialogue

[vagrant hound]

Can we have him in FL so we can have photo option

[high widget]

FL is a good step in that direction but I want more

[toxic delta]

impostor
we should kill them

[vagrant hound]

Magolor will receive 58391 randomly generated dialogue in next game

Every game is personalized

[warm briar]

Guys I just noticed this thing

[sterile quartz]

hey at least it goes in a different direction from forgo's dream

[sterile quartz]

this has been a major crux of scw theories for a while now
yes the starries's faces have a similar look to galacta's shield and mask opening

[warm briar]

Yeah mmmh...🤔

[sterile quartz]

it's also noting that one of the scw demo (in stores) had a figure description for starries, which state that starries crytalize and a bunch of them sealed away that purple meteor in the intro

said description can also be read to imply that special starries make up galacta knight's seal crystal

[green crater]

Personally I'm hoping that it has absolutely nothing to do with Galacta solely because that means any similarities are a funny troll

[wise flame]

Heavily Void Adjacent

[sterile quartz]

i mean i guess
but (donkey kong bananza massive spoilers DO NOT CLICK IF YOU HAVE NOT FINISHED THE GAME) ||the kopium was real so let the galacta copium also be real pls||

[wise flame]

I'm expecting some sort of angelic goliath bearing that accursed symbol being what's contained in that heart

[green crater]

also tbh I kinda think having Galacta be in this would be a bit of an anti climax

[turbid nexus]

Tricky Toby Fox strikes again…

[sterile quartz]

i mean i feel like it wouldn't be
but i also feel like it'd be peak no matter what it is

[toxic delta]

at the very least, their whole things each make it very unlikely they are actually related (and even if they were somehow, GK definitely isn't the villain and probably wouldn't be important to the story in general)

[green crater]

I just mean

If everyone and their brother is looking at the trailer and going "omg what if Galacta Knight", that means that it's the obvious boring choice. If you can guess it from the trailer, then why bother playing it?

But also I find the knights not particularly interesting to begin with

[toxic delta]

at most if GK shows up here at all, it'll be in the new cup

[sterile quartz]

i mean there is potential for him to be absolutely crazy in 3d tbh

like i feel like he has to show up even if he's just in the inevitable crystal cup

[green crater]

Arena, sure

Just as a major plot point, no thanks

[sterile quartz]

i mean he could work as a major plot point if written well enough
I think the people here are a bit too against it

[green crater]

I think most people here are for it, so I dunno what you're on

[toxic delta]

overall the similar motifs they have appear a lot in the series in general anyway (hell, even RtDL DX had crystal/gem themings and flowers motifs and another dimension-shenanigans and stars of various types and whatnot; and obviously similar things go for other modern games like TDX (and keep in mind, bit of these shared a lot with base FL to begin with too))

[green crater]

Anyway, yes, whatever they choose to do I'm sure they'll do well

It's just, on a personal level, it's not the direction I'd want them to take

[sterile quartz]

idk whenever i'm here it's always "gee i hope galacta isn't here/i dont think he'll be here/he'll just be a cup superboss with 0 lore ala rtdl"

[heady ravine]

I've seen both sides here tbh.

[toxic delta]

also worth noting for GK as a fight's case, the Knights and Elfilis sort of took his things lmao

me when funny energy swords and tornados and slashes and midair rushes

[heady ravine]

Yeah I've noted for a while now that Elfilis' light spears are similar to Galacta's light swords or whatever.

but idk they could still make a unique fight

[toxic delta]

and lasers but everyone's gotta have those

[heady ravine]

they might just have to come up with some new stuff

[toxic delta]

yeah, which is why it'd work better as a Cup fight anyway

[heady ravine]

Hm yeah i can see that

[toxic delta]

since hard to tell if they'd bring back Elfilis since, you know

(and also because it'd be easier to work in story-wise anyway)

[shadow kindle]

Well if Void can have two EX variants, then I don't see why Elfilis couldn't get the same treatment

[sterile quartz]

because of the lore or whatever

[shadow kindle]

They could probably work out something lol

True, the cup is canon

I feel like the explanation would definitely be tied to the crystals or the evil meteor

[toxic delta]

I mean here the story's already cut out and situation is different at different parts of the game (also keep in mind Void's whole gimmick, being born and killed for each of the three fights anyway)
if they did Elfilis-like fight like that, it'd be Elfilin instead

like, Forgo/Elfilis is alive in postgame (Soul Forgo during Forgo Dreams, and as Chaos Elfilis after Forgo Dreams but before beating UCZ) but Elfilis is basically gone (besides the part that returned to Elfilin) after UCZ

also hard to tell if it has enough to make whatever's in SCW's cup an actual tier above UCZ to justify locking it for that long

[warm briar]

They both also have horns

[toxic delta]

Starry's are more antlers (matches with the crystal plant-like stuff) and GK's are implied to be part of the mask so not really

[tepid burrow]

I saw a store display for Star-Crossed World at Walmart today

[sterile quartz]

though it is a different type of horn

[tepid burrow]

(I didn’t take a picture sadly)

[toxic delta]

really Starries's are closer to....Elfilis's lmao

but really lot of characters in Kirby have antlers or horns

[sand patrol]

i think the thing is the main bad guy seems to be implied to be them eteor itself

[toxic delta]

yeah that too

[sand patrol]

not something in the meteor

[toxic delta]

Axe Knight('s helmet), Nightmare, Dark Mind, Magolor, Landia, Taranza, Sectra enemies, Sectonia (in more ways that one, Antler moment), Hyness, Morpho's mask, Rampaging Doomers, etc.

[toxic delta]

also worth noting the midboss-like enemy's actual form (assuming they're related to the meteor stuff) isn't really GK-like at all either
they be eggs

goopy bald freaks

[sand patrol]

we also see blue looking goop around too

[toxic delta]

looks more vine-ish or hardened like rocks but could be from them

[broken void]

for a split second I thought this was new stuff

Brain is jumpscaring me

[turbid nexus]

This week we’ll get something trust

[toxic delta]

how much longer will it be, surprised they haven't put something out already

like Jamboree's overview trailer was a month ago, where's the SCW one smh

[turbid nexus]

Literally 😭

[shrewd oracle]

They're probably just waiting for jamboree TV to release now

After jamboree TV it'll be a month to release so perfect time to show more

[tepid burrow]

Which is in 4 days

[shrewd oracle]

They've been going all in on bananza marketing before this

[tepid burrow]

Honestly, Kirby media has been dry this year

Sure we got Air Riders and Star-Crossed World and other media, but still we need more stuff!

[turbid nexus]

Honestly I think it’s enough
Like we’re just lucky to have like 2 new games coming out in presumably the same year lol

We just don’t have much info on Air Riders that’s all

[toxic delta]

yeah, and adaptations are still going strong as always (merch is doing decently too I guess, plus Cafe stuff obviously)

compare to last year where there was nothing for the game side

besides FL Soundtrack if you count that

and the Nintendo Music stuff

for this year though, there was also Nintendo Today stuff as well even if it's minor

[sand patrol]

Next week is also a pokemon presents

So yea prolly not till the week after

[toxic delta]

ah true

[tepid burrow]

Probably during the Next Nintendo Direct

(Or that could be false)

[sand patrol]

I imagine this main bad guy will be original

We are game number 3 of people saying this is the one where they will galactic knight real

Don't think its happening guy

[random tendon]

it will be sis knight

[tepid burrow]

Crystal Neichel

[lean grove]

i see galacta being a bonus boss at best

[high widget]

would u guys eat starries if they tasted like konpeito/sugar candy

[broken void]

hell yeah

[tacit saffron]

they taste like glass

[green crater]

I would absolutely lick one

[tacit saffron]

lick what?

👁️

[toxic delta]

I have no idea what those taste like but sure
I'd also eat them if they tasted like blueberries or something

[ocean ingot]

Crystal Neichel Knight of Chaos

[high widget]

The Roaring Neichel

[ripe bane]

What enemy is the one in the first screenshot?

[twin fog]

The same enemy in the second screenshot

[tepid burrow]

Neichel please appear in the DLC

[toxic delta]

yeah, first pic is from their spawning animation

[tacit saffron]

weird of them to add a new enemy into a rerelease

if you don't count the devils in EEY

[toxic delta]

not really, this is a new story

SSU also had new enemies in RotK
SA updates had a few new variations + Big Bouncy midboss
and RtDL DX had some for new abilities (and again more new variations)

technically we don't even know their actual classification yet, is it a midboss-like enemy? or an enemy-like midboss? or something new

[tacit saffron]

rerelease non remake wise

doesn't matter

what matters is that this creature serves a purpose

[toxic delta]

tbf this is also technically DLC-ish and also there is no other 'rereleases' in the series (not that it's been called that, and EEY wasn't called that either, it was called a 'new version')

so hard to call it weird if then we've never had real instance of non-remake rereleases (outside of EEY, which isn't main series nor HAL) before

[tacit saffron]

including remakes than it is nothing new

[toxic delta]

either way this is the weird part about it anyway lol

[tacit saffron]

large but not quite midboss

if you could put this enemy into a box which would you put it in

[toxic delta]

idk, probably midboss-like enemy for now

[tacit saffron]

I'd say none for now

[wispy violet]

I have also obtained the new kirby

Best buy has some

[random tendon]

wonder if overview trailer for this is late july or early august

not sure if they want to reveal something else before

it kind feels like it

[turbid nexus]

I’m gonna bet for late July
Since Bananza and Mario Party will be out they can focus on SCW stuff

[sudden mirage]

maybe like

next week

Actually it’ll be this week. Fuck it

[wise flame]

Thursday

No proof no source, just feels like it

[tribal igloo]

My autism and I are NOT ready for this dlc bro😭

This dlc is about to crush me😭🙏

[sand patrol]

https://x.com/KirbyInformer/status/1947655921477276039?t=JiBmXvd32Xxvh3yElY0MSA&s=19

Kirby Informer (@KirbyInformer)

Nintendo of Korea has revealed new pre-order bonuses for Kirby and the Forgotten Land - Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Star-Crossed World! As more pre-order bonuses are revealed we will keep you all updated! ✨

https://t.co/5ryAYXACdA

X · Jul 22, 2025, 1:52 PM

[broken void]

I'm so hyped for Spring Mouth Kirby

Feels nice I actually have my switch 2 now so I can rest easy knowing I will actually be able to access this game when it's out

[green crater]

I've got one coming Soon. Caved and decided it wasn't worth waiting on the chance I'll stumble into one at work, and just ordered one online

[ocean ingot]

Oh woooow, completely copying me, I see

[shrewd oracle]

I think next week makes sense

It's finally after bananza and jamboree tv

It's a month before release

And that and drag x drive are the next immediate titles

For one drag x drive definitely isn't a huge priority to nintendo but also we at least got some info about that game recently with the release date

We still haven't seen anything new from scw so I expect that to pick up sooner rather than later

[sand patrol]

Or you know

Direct could happen

[turbid nexus]

I still think it’s just gonna be an overview trailer lol

[rocky berry]

agreed

[toxic delta]

also the usual official site updates either way

and probably finally some more stuff from Nintendo Today

[shut pendant]

only 8 more days until the next nintendo direct happens and finally gives us another star-crossed world trailer!!!

-# source: trust me bro

[sudden mirage]

We’re getting a trailer by next week one way or another

[random tendon]

we're getting a new trailer in 2

[astral oracle]

No today /j

[tribal igloo]

3 2 1!

[heady ravine]

I like yours more ngl

Looks better without the white border, for one

[wise flame]

You know I should REALLY wait for like, a Nintendo Direct showcase or an Overview Trailer, but....

I can still make wild-mode guesses on the scope and content of the game

[sand patrol]

i dont really have any

cause my expectations are not high

[robust tundra]

i kinda have moderate expectstions here but i really REALLY wish we got a trailer or something

i kinda am looking more forward to this than air riders cuz at least i know what to expect from forgo land...

[wise flame]

Yeah ngl even though I will proceed to make guesses anyways, all this harping on about Hal's "exceptionalism" sometimes could be a little overblown?
-# I can't put it into words because HAL's been doing far more than reasonally expected for something like Free DLC or a remake

[sand patrol]

lowkey the only thing i kinda want is for them to drop the switch 2 edition update a week early so i can doa replay of it before SCW drops

but i would buy this shit if it was just 60fps FL

[wise flame]

Yeah NGL, the method of activating 60fps is a concious decision

If FL got 60fps right outta the bat on the Switch 2, I don't think that alone would "devalue" SCW...

But unfortunately, they decided that it should be one of the other incentives to get SCW

[sand patrol]

tbf i have no doubt if scarvi wasnt absolute dogshit performance wise on launch they would sell its fps bump too

[robust tundra]

scarvi?

[sand patrol]

pokemon

[wise flame]

Welp time to do the wild guesses (some old, some new):

• SCW initially is designed for players who have already beaten Fecto Elfilis, thus the difficulty will reflect that.
• There probably will be a way to play SCW without needing to beat Elfilis...?
• The base-game adventure may be tweaked slightly, perhaps some QOL stuff like "here's every mission you missed", but otherwise it's very easy to overlook.
• SCW could have you start in the Forgotten Lands, before eventually having whole levels and worlds set in more alien locations.
• There will be new major bosses to fight during the initial "Forgotten land" phase, these will be original.
• The Volcano is SCW's HUB area.
• At least 4 more abilities will be added, half returning (spear is likely), half new.
• The new abilities will have some more complexity than the base-game abilities.
• There may be a successor to Guest Star/Metaknightmare/etc. in this DLC.
• There may be a new subgame or two, although they'll be simple like in Waddle Dee Town.
• The Volcano may initially start as a basic secondary HUB, but eventually it'll become the only method to explore outer worlds.
• SCW will get a Forgo-Dreams equivalent postgame mode.
• There will be an arena exclusive to the volcano, with 3 cups. The first will be the "normal" arena, the next will be the "true" arena. The third will be like how RTDLDX's take on the True Arena... a mix of EX-Story bosses and the new postgame bosses.

• No, despite everything, SCW will be an original story with original characters. Every element we've seen so far just so happened to remind us of things we've seen in the series prior. There will be no Galacta Knight, There will be no Adeleine, and there will be no Ribbon. However, a new Meta-Like will be introduced in SCW

[sand patrol]

i doubt new abilities

feels like an expansion more then anything

[lean grove]

i can see like 1 "new" ability at most but they'll be more similar to the additional abilities in RtDLD

[wise flame]

I wonder if some abilities will be tweaked...

[lean grove]

in other words they do at most one specific thing unique to it and the rest is basically interchangable with other abilities for the sake of not breaking the level design

[wise flame]

But not very many abilities in my head RN feel incomplete in FL

The only ability I have on my mind is cutter

Specifically because of the dash attack

that's it

[lean grove]

more ability evolutions is definitely on the books though

[twin fog]

The big 'feels like something's missing' in FL for me is definitely ice not having ice sprinkle in the air

[ocean ingot]

I feel like at least one new ability is likely, at the very least they did say that in the treehouse description (which could've been a complete mistake but... 🤷‍♂️)

[wise flame]

Sometimes some abilities' simplicity in FL make sense or even neccessary at times

[lean grove]

like there's so few abilities and so many of them with underwhelming 3rd tiers that there's no reason they can't make tier 4s with actually interesting things

[twin fog]

Cutter not having the dash attack was something I thought up years after the fact as 'actually they could've done that' I don't think I've seen anyone mention that before me and I certainly never felt like cutter was missing it beforehand

[wise flame]

But other times it's like... Ok but sword's slide input is a whole attack, why not give every ability that had a dash attack this functionality??

[lean grove]

they could have done it but its kinda just
not the point of cutter

like the main point is the boomerang projectile

if they want to make sword seem more unique then adding it doesn't do that

[wise flame]

I understand Ice not having the ice ball dash because it'd conflict with its unique "invincible" guard

But why can't fire have fire-ball?

[high widget]

i miss dash attacks

[wise flame]

You can only activate fire-ball mid-air

[lean grove]

3D space

[high widget]

i hope the next 3d game has dash attacks

[wise flame]

Oh shit wrong name

I meant burning

[twin fog]

Burning sucks ass as a fighting option so like thank god it doesn't have it grounded

[lean grove]

that's even worse

[wise flame]

Fireball's the rolling wheel thingy

[lean grove]

we actually do have that

[green crater]

The main problem with dash attacks is that unless you're intentionally half tilting the stick, you're literally always dashing, so the dash attack becomes the basic attack unless they give it some other input like sword did

[wise flame]

Yeah I should've clarified that when I say "why don't they have dash attacks", I meant "why not use slide"

[twin fog]

Yea like I said, I randomly thought one day in a conversation 'the only other ability in the game that felt like it could've had a unique slide attack is cutter'

[high widget]

I also hope they bring some FLconcepts into 2D

[wise flame]

Cutter's whole point is being ranged, but it also still has final cutter

[green crater]

I Imagine they'll be tinkering with movesets in future games anyway. Can't really imagine them doing it in SCW too much, but future games definitely

[wise flame]

Hammer spin could be possible but NGL I think Hammer's current gameplay in FL makes sense

(Also Forgo Hammer literally has the spin integrated into the default moveset)

Spear, the ability, feels guaranteed to be included

[sand patrol]

ehhh

[wise flame]

As cool as having more abilities in a DLC is...

[high widget]

tbh hammer spin being part of hammer flip would go hard in 2d

[wise flame]

Abilities kinda either need to exist before the game design is made or the abilities have a moveset that simply work as an alternative for something already in-game

Sand and Mecha are cool, but they're very much there as an alternative option to solve puzzles

[lean grove]

which is why i assume if they add some new ability its going to be very similar to a previous ability but with like one unique thing that isn't going to affect level design

[sand patrol]

i just think evolutions is such a big parto f the game that you either need to fast track this abilities evo line or mold it into base game

[wise flame]

Mouthful modes are easier to add in because they're level exclusive... Abilities can be done anywhere

[sand patrol]

but i doubt they would make such a radical shift like that

since this game more then any deliberately designed around 10 abilties

well 11

[wise flame]

I do wonder if the new evolutions will add some complexity

[sand patrol]

i think a new 3rd stage evolution for an existing ability would make the most sense to add

maybe a new cutter or ranger

[wise flame]

Because the damned Morpho Sword is the only evolution with added moves

But then the issue comes from the secondary currency...

[high widget]

I hope abilities have just as many moves as Morpho Sword in future 3D games

[wise flame]

Of course it could still just be a "one new evo per ability", but... there's still implications there

[lean grove]

like if they added a crystal/star ability i would probably expect them to make them have it be perhaps a mostly melee attacking ability with some small ranged elements in its other moves, maybe similarly to ice it can encase enemies in crystals
not enough to be outclassing other abilities but enough that it can be used in other levels in mostly the same way
and then for unique things it gets stuff like idk turning enemies it defeats into starry coins

[wise flame]

Ok something just started to bug me...

Ok so like SCW is obviously meant to be DLC for people who already played the game

And it's very likely a bunch of players have already gotten into the "star-tier" upgrade point of the game

[lean grove]

society if they didn't get rid of pause screen movesets

[wise flame]

So like... is SCW gonna address that, or will it straight up allow us to play an entire new adventure with Max-leveled abilities??

[sand patrol]

prolly

i dont see why not

[twin fog]

I mean the average person probably only has one or two abilities upgraded to +⭐ anyway

[sand patrol]

if you took the time to get every ability to star+ you prolly would not struggle with the dlc anyways

[wise flame]

As tempted as I am to keep using File 1 with 85% of the evolutions fully upgraded... I still rather wanna start SCW on File 2, which DOESN'T have any non-single-use abilities upgraded

Hey what's the max limit of coins in FL?

[twin fog]

5 digits

[sand patrol]

i think its 99999

[high widget]

drill quake spam my beloved

[wise flame]

Hrm I think I'm getting close

[ocean ingot]

Deep Sleep evolution called Eternal Sleep that just kills you upon use :D

[high widget]

morbid!

[sand patrol]

actually it brick your switch

[ocean ingot]

That's the evolution after

[wise flame]

I REALLY do hope that there'll be an option to downgrade evolutions because NGL I don't wanna have to replay two adventures just because the game initially didn't provide me a way to undo those decisions

[toxic delta]

never powered-up any abilities or evolutions on my save file (if I did that I was gonna do it on another file, but I probably won't do it now that, well you know (unless SCW gives an easy option to upgrade them all))

[lean grove]

i assume that the DLC will just make starry coins another way of getting rare stones once you get everything else you can get with them

so powering up everything to max will be easier

[sand patrol]

im literally just starting an ew save once it comes out

[wise flame]

Hrm how long should the spoiler embargo be

[sand patrol]

2 weeks like usual

[lean grove]

2 weeks is pretty common

[wise flame]

Perhaps

[lean grove]

maybe 3 weeks if its a heavy story thing but like

[toxic delta]

depends on how much it has

[lean grove]

star crossed world isn't going to be that long

its going to be like probably 6 hours long at most

saying that really generously

[wise flame]

Like any Kirby story

[toxic delta]

how long was the SA Wave 3 embargo, I don't remember
should at least be that

[wise flame]

(Although even by kirby standards, a standalone story mode with that length is still pretty beefy)

[lean grove]

the story as usual will basically boil down to a premise, and then things that happen at the end of the campaign

[twin fog]

That's as long as the entire main game

[wise flame]

Like any Kirby story...

[lean grove]

i'm only saying 6 hours at most because for all i know this is including a new arena mode that extends the story by an additional hour

[toxic delta]

I mean there's always gonna be the optional stuff too

[wise flame]

I just yearn for a mode beyond the arenas that is intentionally designed to be replayed

[toxic delta]

we already know there's multiple volumes of new figures

there's probably gonna be at least some with special requirements like base game did

and new hub area(?) might have additional stuff

[heady ravine]

True.

[high widget]

this makes me wanna play 2d kirby\

[heady ravine]

2D Kirby is awesome.

[random tendon]

we'll probably judge how much content there is once we're closer but I would say 2 weeks minimum

[random tendon]

iirc spoilers were different back then

like I recall a channel for every KSA spoiler that lasted basically the whole release cycle and I guess was also where people could talk about the leaked dream friends

can't recall when we allowed spoilers everywhere though

[toxic delta]

yeah, we had channels for other games too I remember (like Smash Ultimate) and you needed role for at least some of them iirc

[high widget]

discord was a different place...

[toxic delta]

back when there was no spoiler tags, threads, etc.

[twin fog]

Ok random thing I was wondering but never cared enough to actually look into but BotW and TotK S2E do have higher quality textures unlike SV and Odyssey free updates which are only raising render resolution
So I assume that should mean FL would also have higher quality textures?

[lean grove]

yeah probably

though idk how much it will make a difference though since those games are 4K with a free camera while you rarely see anything up close in FL

[twin fog]

Don't think BotW TotK are actually native 4K

[shrewd oracle]

if they're making you pay for the res upgrade since you can't get it separately from scw i kind of hope it'll be higher effort at least lol

but idk for sure

well jamboree tv is also out now in some regions so you can look at the res upgrades for that too ig

[twin fog]

man now that jamboree tvs out I need them to start posting news so I don't obsess over resolution bull

[wise flame]

Ribbon will show up and they'll act like that's normal

[vagrant hound]

We will get more Metroid news instead

[twin fog]

This is the one shot from FL I distinctly remember as 'lmao the texture resolution'

funny lookout tower texture

[random tendon]

oh right funny jamboree tv

[twin fog]

It's Jamboree Time!!

[vagrant hound]

Jamboree TV is a way of doxxing yourself to online friends!

[wise flame]

Jamboree TV?

More like Jam boring TV, they don't even got the classics on there!

Never shoulda let Zan strike a broadcasting deal with Susie

[trim sail]

No they are 810p-1440p DRS

[trim sail]

From what I've seen from a comparison the textures are the exact same in SCW just with a resolution bump

[high widget]

that feels like thats the case with botw as well no?

[trim sail]

Yeah from what I'm seeing

[twin fog]

No BotW has higher res textures too

[trim sail]

That's what I just said the texture resolution was increased

By "resolution bump" I wasn't only talking about the render resolution of the game but specifically the textures themselves

[wise flame]

Ok it's gotta be tomorrow

[toxic delta]

I hope they release trailer tomorrow (or well, today technically in bit of places), it'll be funny

[twin fog]

Starry World Tomorrow

[sand patrol]

Next week for sure

[tribal igloo]

trailer in 3 ...

[astral oracle]

A

[ocean ingot]

They shadow dropped tcgp trailer, surely we'll get SCW

-# (they are nowhere near the same size, i am just coping)

[coarse arrow]

Starved Cross Server

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-food-water-gif-22808295

[turbid nexus]

Next week for sure trust

[wise flame]

Come on it's $20 DLC, how much could we possibly expect?

(WAIT)

[tacit saffron]

well

so is Jamboree TV

[wise flame]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-scared-scaredcat-scared-cat-gif-7805744473386885099

I SAID WAIT DAMMIT

[high widget]

tcgp isnt that big to me

[wise flame]

Holy shit it's hard to find a correct GIF

Ya ruined the yolk!

[ocean ingot]

hence why i mentioned they are nowhere near the same size, star crossed world is the bigger thing

[high widget]

I see

[wise flame]

-# Dammit I wanted to do a joke why are you taking it seriously

[tacit saffron]

when it comes to (non-free) DLC modes/expansions/games? that have been separate/bundled before (First & Second Party) how much they've costed in the past?

can be Pokémon, Splatoon, Zelda, Smash, Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, 3DW + BF, Pikmin 3 Deluxe, etc

[tacit saffron]

continuing on from here

[toxic delta]

tbf SCW is already doing more than that did lmao

[wise flame]

-# I meant to accompany that comment with a gif exuding a surface-level smug look, which then dissolves into fear at the hidden scope of said DLC

[tacit saffron]

if the price really matters for how much content you get

[wise flame]

-# For rhe joke

[tacit saffron]

scope shot x10

[wise flame]

But like in my real non joke opinion, I do think SCW being its own game inside of Forgotten Land is still not off the table

[toxic delta]

anyway so far we got new story with 12+ stages (with new music), new songs outside of that, new Mouthful Modes (and likely new Treasure Roads), new enemies and midbosses (including variants), multiple sets of new figures, better visuals for base game, and likely a new hub area at least

[wise flame]

It's one thing to add in a mode via a free update

It's a whole other thing to charge $20

[high widget]

how do you the tiny text thing again

[wise flame]

minus hashtag, space, then your words

(-#) remove parenthesis

[toxic delta]

it's definitely not (at least nothing like what Jamboree TV did for sure), we've seen world map and we've seen base game area screenshots too

[wise flame]

I meant like it has a story mode, a postgame, and subgames

We all saw the trailer footage

[toxic delta]

ah

I think it's more like second postgame overall

[tacit saffron]

you're so ture!

[toxic delta]

but there's good chance of new subgames too

[wise flame]

We only got one $20 modern Kirby game so far and it's Fighters 2

is it unfair and incorrect to use that as a point of reference? Yes

[tacit saffron]

usually DLC = Side Mode/post game content

[wise flame]

But, even for a small little title like so, they managed to put in quite a bunch

[tacit saffron]

or expanding on the regular main game

[toxic delta]

overall it gives Star Allies Wave 3 (including HiAD) and RtDL DX (including Epilogue) vibes so far

[wise flame]

The OG Fighters Deluxe is straight up TDX's subgame but with like 2 bosses added in

[tacit saffron]

HL games also fall into this

[wise flame]

So boring and barebones

[tacit saffron]

since they have DLC more or less

expansions/episodes

[wise flame]

But then Fighters 2 said: Story Mode, Single Handed Mode, and more abilities and dream friends included

[toxic delta]

like I think it's gonna give little more than those obviously but that's like the baseline

[tacit saffron]

but there's also DLC outside of that

complex

[wise flame]

Better remain levelheaded until news come out...

(The next piece of news... I feel it in my mind... it will be... another "before/after" clip like the other short clips from that news app)

[toxic delta]

news should be soonish at least, only got about a month left (and other recent releases are out of the way)

sort of surprised they didn't release Overview Trailer already tbh

[obtuse berry]

It's bc HAL hates us since we've been preventing them on making more boxboys since Kirby sells more

[toxic delta]

smh we all know they should actually make another Eggerland game

[tacit saffron]

funny though because the base equivalent is Isolated Isles: Forgo Dreams

all so far involve going into another dimension/sky/realm for post game story reasons

where you go around collecting unique collectables while you fight off against new harder versions of existing bosses from within the game + trying to save a certain character/s from remains of the main villain/antagonist

[toxic delta]

yeah it's got some HiAD elements, though overall it's more the Guest Star and RtDL Extra Mode equivalent in this equation lol

[tacit saffron]

however Epilogue has the addition of playing as Magolor similar to past secondary playable character extra modes (MKM - GS)

[vagrant hound]

SCW if we get to play as Dedede

[tacit saffron]

Remakes: NIDL: Standard Extra Mode & MKm, SSU: RotK & MKmU, RTDLDX: Standard Extra Mode & ME

Star Allies: GS & HiAD

TDX and PR are sad and happy they only get the 1 (DDDT & MKMR)

[shrewd oracle]

5 weeks

[twin fog]

pleasepleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease
something something nintendo release in these unprecedented times

[tacit saffron]

they shadow drop Hey Pikmin HD for early August

[tribal igloo]

1 week

[glad path]

🎶 IT'S BEEN-

[wise flame]

Sometimes I think about that interview where the devs were worried that Story Mode Elfilis was "too difficult"...

Although SCW feels like it should be a postgame addition, would they treat it more as an alternative story? If so, will they potentially pull their punches for the final boss this time around??

Anyways so news gotta happen next week surely

[tacit saffron]

they make new elfilis and fai will be like

hehe sans 2

[toxic delta]

it's almost certainly postgame, and even if it wasn't, even then part of it would probably be

people who played demo (aka Meteor Shower's Arrival stage) have said it felt harder than main game at least

there will almost certainly be new cup too, so even if they for some reason did, there could be other new stuff there

[tacit saffron]

take with a grain of salt

or pepper

whatever rocks your boat

[toxic delta]

I mean, these were people who played the main game obviously lol

including at least someone at Nintendo Dream (hence why I never said at Switch 2 Experience)

[tacit saffron]

compare this to IIFD-86

[tacit saffron]

what to call it

Starry Ultimate Cup?

[toxic delta]

partially depends on if it's standalone or if it's enhanced version of UCZ

[tacit saffron]

Crystal Ultimate Cup

[toxic delta]

Ultimate Cup S for the latter option though

[tacit saffron]

nonono please no

have mercy!

[toxic delta]

since Z is from 絶島 or Zettō

(aka Isolated Isles)

[high widget]

what if they call it Ultimate Cup X

because X is cross

[toxic delta]

oh that could work too, but depends on if JP does indeed mention the crossed stuff somewhere

since JP story name is just Starry World

[high widget]

i mean surely HAL knows that the ✨ motif looks like a cross by just rotating it

[toxic delta]

feel like it could be base game FL situation for the name at least

I would not be surprised if 'Star-Crossed' gets used late game

[turbid nexus]

Star-Crossed Cup

[lucid minnow]

Star-Crossed Cup X

[violet gorge]

On more month……

We have one…..more….month

[outer veldt]

Release an overview trailer please Nintendo

[lucid minnow]

1 month and 2 days

[tribal igloo]

Can you believe it guys? Just a month away!

[craggy dove]

HOLY BALONEY!

I’m ready now

I’ve got my switch 2 all hooked up

With no switch 2 games

[tepid burrow]

less then a month…

[rustic crow]

We need an overview trailer in the next couple weeks

[random tendon]

I def expect overview trailer this week or the next

[rustic crow]

Or a trailer inside of a Nintendo Direct if that happens soon

[random tendon]

well yeah but either way that won't be the overview trailer

[rustic crow]

I wonder if the whole OST of Forgotten Land will drop on the Nintendo Music App after SCW releases?

[random tendon]

they said the full OST will be available by the end of the year, but they could always drop it into batches

[lucid minnow]

one month left

[sudden oracle]

Oh my god, SCW is really a month away wow

Prepare the extended lore books and for banger music 🔥🔥🔥

Starry Knight will become real in 31 days.

[turbid nexus]

Funniest thing they could do is release an overview trailer right after the direct if they actually do one this week just like they did with RtDX’s Japanese overview trailer

[sudden oracle]

Is it rumored to have a Direct this week?

MORE TOMODACHI NEWS 👀

PLEASE NINTENDO IM BEGGING 🙏

Sorry I couldn’t help it

[tribal igloo]

Overview trailer in

[sand patrol]

17

[sand patrol]

https://x.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1949907713997132078

Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica)

Oh!

#KirbyAndTheForgottenLand – #NintendoSwitch2 Edition + Star-Crossed World is coming August 28.

X · Jul 28, 2025, 7:00 PM

[random tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/maçavras1-gif-16101498646883457546

[sand patrol]

i didnt embed this one for the max bait potential

[random tendon]

stop teasing us nintendo

[tepid burrow]

I hate you Nintendo

[broken void]

every now and then I'll see someone say the dumbest thing - saw someone talk about this game and say "hope they take the jamboree criticisms to heart by then"

• this game has already been deep in development and at this moment they're gonna be doing final touchups if even that
• it's not even made by the same development team!!!!
• HAL IS FUCKING GOATED

[green crater]

Alas, published by nintendo = all made by the same people, in the minds of the general public

[sand patrol]

people just dont know

it happens

but it is funny

[broken void]

Legit 😭 hard to fault them too much cuz there's not a lot of youtubers or whatnot talking about it but it's just Man lmao

[green crater]

Like, this is gonna effectively be a $20 dlc. I'm not expecting a TON, but I always trust HAL to give us something fun and well thought out

[broken void]

Real - they always deliver on this stuff. i have high confidence in it 🙏

[coarse arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/jonkler-joker-gif-4939694494140375951

[green crater]

If I get a solid four hours (of meandering "look at all the things") gameplay from it, I'll be happy

[wise flame]

Fuck you Nintendo

[sudden mirage]

they’re finally advertising this damn game ❤️

[shrewd oracle]

They kind of have to now

Our August games are this and drag x drive

[broken void]

I remember seeing drag x drive in the trailer and seriously thinking it would be something bigger lol

Think maybe it could have been if nintendo put more marekting and juice into it but figure they also know that it wasn't really a venture worth pursuing

[green crater]

This is honestly why I don't usually get a new console right off. It's ages before there's a good selection of games

[toxic delta]

is also just a digital-only game

[broken void]

Real lol - took the switch some time to pick up some steam. things will be a lot different a year from now at least

[broken void]

Yeaaaah - it's kinda sad because I think the concept is cute and I'd like to see a big nintendo game lean into the mouse controls. Maybe we'll have to wait and see what their other studios come up with

(Getting into another discussion at this point oops. So little scw info to talk about)

[toxic delta]

how much longer before the overview trailer smh

[wise flame]

When did FL get an overview trailer?

I think it got two?

[broken void]

I just Know they're waiting on showing us uhhhhh
Sand ?

[wise flame]

Or like a pre-overview trailer...

[broken void]

Actually fun little question that I think I've seen mentioned before - what ability could be added to this game without compromising the design of base game levels (in the same way that mecha and sand were deliberately crafted to fit in with rtdl's level design)

Maybe the answer is just "a new one" but that's a bit harder to brainstorm

[green crater]

Parasol could have some overlap with sword maybe

[broken void]

Yeah real! Maybe the water could interact with lava and stuff like ice does
(are there even any like. Molten blocks in this game or is it literally just skatable lava lol)

I guess designing abilities that can fit in with FL should theoretically be easier because abilities have way fewer moves on average than in 2d games

[green crater]

There's the fire blocks that you can cool off with ice

[broken void]

Ah ok those are in this game nice. I could not remember lol

[toxic delta]

3 weeks before release, but Jamboree TV had one nearly 2 months before it released

[high widget]

tbh i dont really see that much level design that prevents abilities from existing

[shrewd oracle]

I think we have a pretty good lineup of games announced rn tbh

We just need release dates

[high widget]

like i can see the concern to make abilities actually interact with the puzzles but i dont think its required

[shrewd oracle]

But we have mario kart, dk, fl dlc, prime 4, z-a, and air riders within a 6 (maybe 7) month span

[broken void]

Ooh i kinda forgot about air riders lmao

[toxic delta]

tbf like basically every ability in FL has some sort of element or interaction with stuff so it would be out of place if one did not

even BWD has multiple things

[random tendon]

I still on board that overview trailer is this week or next

[broken void]

That is fair yeah. I think abilities' functions in this game feel a lot more "sectioned off" than in 2d games where a lot of them tend to kinda overlap in which ones can do what puzzles

[random tendon]

fake fan...

[toxic delta]

(slash element and being able to hit Target Switches)

[sand patrol]

i disagree the game is way more inherently designed around the abilities so i think just taking them onto the base game would feel either slapdash or break the flow of some puzzles

[broken void]

Q3 of the year it's supposed to release and we ain't even seen a single bit of gameplay 🥀 im starting to believe it really just is not coming out this year LOL unless we get news soon

[toxic delta]

think the only one that doesn't directly have something like that are well, the one-use ones
and they still have something to stand out and bit of uses

[sand patrol]

it was fine in rtdl cause mosto f the puzzles were pretty broadly made anyways

[shrewd oracle]

I don't think it makes sense to add a new ability

Just the evos

[random tendon]

I think air riders news is inevitable

[random tendon]

sadly same

[sand patrol]

well this was done more cause they had two big releases planned

[random tendon]

unless it's like

a new ability like sand/mecha

that is unique but clearly feels like many abilities put together into one lol

[broken void]

sadly this does make sense to me but i still hope they surprise us. nevertheless i'll be happy with new evos

[shrewd oracle]

Even then though that's for a remake and they integrated it through the game bc they revisited the whole thing

[sand patrol]

they only gave an "it exists" teaser to sorto f lay the land for the year

[shrewd oracle]

This exists as a dlc

[random tendon]

new abilities but you can only play in SCW (jamboree TV moment)

[sand patrol]

but nintendo just does not role with game delays anymore

[random tendon]

[sand patrol]

mp4 has scared them away

if it has a release year its coming out that year

[shrewd oracle]

I don't believe in a delay yet either

[green crater]

I think some of the "ok but what about new ability" comes from the trailer which said "new abilities and mouthful" but also that could have just been someone screwing up

[shrewd oracle]

If we don't hear anything after September then maybe lol but thats a ways off

[broken void]

Lol fair yeah. Think the time to hear news is coming very soon

[sand patrol]

they just didnt want to really take attention away from their big newer releases

dk and mario kart

so it was basically just a taste of the latter quarter

[broken void]

This screw-up still fucks with me because both arguments of "it was someone who accidentally revealed info we weren't supposed to have yet" and "it was someone who mistranslated/misunderstood what they were supposed to write" make sense to me lol. we still have no idea 💔

[sudden mirage]

god I can’t wait for air riders

[sand patrol]

direct this week hopefully

if god is real

[sudden mirage]

one of the main reasons I got a switch 2 now lmao

[broken void]

Never been a racer guy and I did not play air ride but I will try this one because it may be Cool

[sand patrol]

but yea on SCW i can see a new evo

[shrewd oracle]

Even More Crystal Needle

[sudden mirage]

hal about to add 5 more sword evos:

[green crater]

Sleep gets a new evolution that makes every enemy on screen sleep instead of you

[high widget]

i just realized

Air Riders means online ecosystem

[green crater]

If it doesn't, I think people will riot lol

[sudden mirage]

why wouldn’t it have online lmao

[shrewd oracle]

The new scw sword evo:

[broken void]

galacta knight truther

Imagine galacta being the upgrade to morpho. like "ha who's the upgraded form NOW punk"

[green crater]

They should just do an evolution that fully makes you look like those glowing spikey high tier clash outfits. Just make those canon to the main game

[high widget]

no i never really realized like that people would want that

like

our last three forays into online was

Battle Royale -> SKC/KF2 -> Dream Buffet

[toxic delta]

but what about the one with star in the name...

[shrewd oracle]

Yeah but I think the aesthetic of the platinum one matches the crystals better

[green crater]

I'm realizing that my brain went the other direction and followed from Smash instead of previous games. Smash has online, so I would expect it here too

[high widget]

yeah see exactly like

Sakurai has literally been doing this shit nonstop

its going to be a different online ecosystem

[toxic delta]

easy solution, we fuse them to make Platinum Starlight Hero Sword

[wise flame]

We can have more than just crystal-themed evos

Speaking of evos

I just remembered about some of the world map's landmarks only giving coins rather than unlock a treasure road

Will SCW change the interaction with said landmarks?

[shrewd oracle]

i stg if we get more kirby clash content or lore 😭

[wise flame]

I think remakes will be doing that

[sand patrol]

i was thinking star-crossed cutter

[random tendon]

kumazaki: how can I make this about clash

[vagrant hound]

A-mazing advertisement

[tacit saffron]

they could just make EX evos if they didn't want to add an entirely new ability for just some exclusive DLC

[toxic delta]

make it about Fighters instead. it'll be funny

[tacit saffron]

you'll get more if they make a new free to play game featuring FL assets inside a 2D space

[sudden mirage]

kirby monster hunter 🔥

[tacit saffron]

or what we call Another Dimension (there is no sky here, leave)

[twin fog]

every now and then I'll see someone say the dumbest thing
I too occasionally use this server /s
No but obviously the correct answer is for HAL to learn from Jamboree's mistakes by cancelling the DLC for 11 years until they make it good

[tacit saffron]

Whose Jamboree in this conversation?

[broken void]

Yeah exactly - every game studio should cancel all their development processes to address very specific concerns

[twin fog]

Honestly like
This isn't actually a problem if SCW is just postgame and not like intermixed throughout the base game like we're all thinking
It'd just end up as an ability you never encounter to use until postgame levels lol

[broken void]

Honestly I do kinda hope they do that lol would be nice to have one consistently designed campaign rather than having to be adjusted for different world difficulties

[twin fog]

Yea the big thing that makes this work in FL is that in this game Mix, roulette copy essences, and the ability room don't show you abilities until you've found them in game first

[shrewd oracle]

To get over any balance issues they should just not let you play scw at all

[twin fog]

SO TRUE?

[shrewd oracle]

Even if you get the s2e

[tacit saffron]

Lock it in or get locked up

that's the motto?

[tribal igloo]

HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?????????????????????

ARE THEY FINALLY DOING SOMETHING?

PLEASE NINTENDO PLEASE

I SCREAM AND CRY

[craggy dove]

I saw that at Walmart

[tepid burrow]

Same!

[random tendon]

imagine having walmart in your country

either way bandee spotted

[rustic crow]

A weird take I saw recently was that Kirby was not a very consistent in terms of quality. Then in the same thread they say a different Nintendo series is more consistent when said series only has like 5 entries to its name. XP
Which in a way yes that does make it more consistent with each entry being good, but I feel like comparing series with such a huge gap in terms of number of titles is a little disingenuous

[broken void]

YEAH - def strange cuz I do think kirby is one of the most consistent series in terms of quality - at least when you go by mainline games

[violet gorge]

Its kinda funny how people just cannot comprehend the idea that theres different development teams and companies behind a series or game instead of in house or the console creator. Especially since alot games open literally with the developer company besides Nintendo in their face or slap them giant in the credits.

[broken void]

Or simply just how long game development takes - like even if it were the same studio it's like Yeah I bet they'll redesign everything the way this person wants it a month before release

It's all silly lol

[outer veldt]

Wishful thinking

🥀

[sand patrol]

i think ndcube was just super lazy with jamboree TV

[outer veldt]

Maybe

[toxic delta]

definitely a NDCube thing, they've always been this sort of way

though Jamboree TV definitely has some of the weirdest decisions even compared to their past works lol

[outer veldt]

Such a underwhelming expansion

Probably won't pick it up for a while when I get my switch 2 lol

[random tendon]

jamboree TV almost feels like it was almost its own game then they just put it into jamboree

[sudden mirage]

jamboree tv is so funny lmao

I legit think they should’ve just waited and made jamboree a switch 2 game

[tacit saffron]

Jamboree now seems like they split on purpose

[toxic delta]

honestly I think it might've been better if it was a standalone release to some extent lmao

[random tendon]

yeah lol

[tacit saffron]

assumingly it was already planned during development

[violet gorge]

I have no desire to pick up jamboree TV. Mainly because well I don’t play a ton of mario party as of late anyway. Plus a lot of it is tied to camera junk right? Yea that doesn’t seem too enticing

[toxic delta]

and there'd be more reason for someone to buy it

[tacit saffron]

TV is a gimmick DLC

[sudden mirage]

yeah that’s my main thing too it seems like a lot was built for the camera

unless I get a cheap camera down the line

[tacit saffron]

a tutoriel of all the new NS2 gizmos

a tech demo

[sudden mirage]

their greed sickens me they don’t need to make welcome tour twice

[toxic delta]

I mean then they stuffed stuff like Tag-Team rules into it too
why weren't those in base game

[sudden mirage]

frenzy should’ve been an update for base game

[toxic delta]

yeah

[tacit saffron]

to justify the price?

[toxic delta]

the rules are like the only worthwhile additions, they are not worth $20

[tacit saffron]

it's weird both normal game additions are just locked behind it

[sudden mirage]

if they added the new board rules to base game

then kept the switch 2 stuff separate and made it $10

it would’ve been good I think

[toxic delta]

also part of one of the only two Jamboree TV modes you can play online :)

(why is Carnival Coaster not playable online)

[tacit saffron]

apparently they slightly changed the models in Jamboree TV

is that correct or?

[sudden mirage]

idk if that’s true but the characters are pretty expressive in carnival coaster specifically

anyway this is the kirby thread!

[toxic delta]

there's also the visual stuff not applying to base game at all (or at least, not all stuff being in Jamboree TV to make up for it)

anyway I am glad SCW looks much more worth it

[sudden mirage]

hal will make it worth the $20

[toxic delta]

and that stuff seems more seemless than whatever the hell that game is doing
and that everything applies to base game

[sudden mirage]

I needs this overview trailer

[toxic delta]

we will be able to see Elfilis in the best quality....

[violet gorge]

I need them to reveal the nee copy ability already
New copy abilities are quite literally never kept secret at least in the modern day. They’re always front and center so the descriptions of SCW mentioning a potential new ability consistently feels super odd

[tepid burrow]

I Need More Neichel

[violet gorge]

Oh also I hope they add online game share support to FL

Like its so weird how game share is legit only compatible with like 5 games. Like theres so many multiplayer games on switch that would work well with it’s switch 2 online option how the heck has it felt like nothing’s been done with it. Every kirby game having it available would be godly

[toxic delta]

I mean none of the Kirby games have got Switch 2 update so

when will they update SA

[tepid burrow]

SA already has DLC tho

[broken void]

I NEEEEEED sa update bro I'll replay the game the moment they drop it. I want that juicy 60fps. Like that stark difference when opening Scarlet on my s2 is what I wanna experience with SA

[violet gorge]

Bro people actually being able to experience star allies multiplayer would be a godsend we need that update

[broken void]

Not dlc but the free performance updates games have been getting - like pokemon scarlet and mario odyssey for example

[violet gorge]

Mod team playthrough stream?

[broken void]

Wait yeah if they had gameshare on it too it would be peam

[tepid burrow]

Oh!

[violet gorge]

I can see the vision now!
Yukkuri being player one and trapping everyone in the dream palace until they all pick magolor

[green crater]

How does the gameshare thing even work, would games actually need an update or is it the kind of thing they could just mark as supporting it?

[sudden mirage]

one day I need to go back to cranking 90s in magolor guest star

still 4th on the leaderboard… I think

[broken void]

I can see myself spamming fire shuttle loop every 3 seconds and getting dragged back to p1

[violet gorge]

Thats what Im confused about because really on paper and what Ive experienced trying it out it seems more so like streaming a game over to someone else and them being able to put in inputs rather than something like download play where the other player needs to get their own demo version of the game

Its weird because the former wouldn’t really need an update. It would be more so like a built in parsec where you can connect other people’s controllers. Its odd

[green crater]

Yeah, that's the impression I had gotten originally, like theoretically any game would be compatible with that?

[sudden mirage]

It’s probably more complicated than that

[violet gorge]

Yea. Seems like its an in-between however not really sure how that works but yea

[sudden mirage]

They gotta make sure the game runs without problems streaming to both switch 1s and 2s

I don’t think it’s like xbox game pass or whatever where it’s streamed from the one server

More like your system makes its own server

[green crater]

Yeah, that's how a lot of Switch stuff already seems to work

I'm more just wondering if it's the kind of thing we need to wait for actual game updates for, or if it's more waiting for them to test existing games and decide "yeah we can let people do that one"

[sudden mirage]

I think it’s tied to game updates

Oh yeah it’s literally in patch notes lmao

[shrewd oracle]

it's tied to game updates because there has to be an option within the game itself

there's not an overarching separate "gameshare" function that you can launch games from and share them with

[green crater]

Ahh, yeah that would do it

[twin fog]

Well the simplest thing I can immediately think of to the question of 'why wouldn't gameshare just automatically work with all multiplayer games' besides just having to add a button to start gameshare into the game is that it would need the game to be able to stream at a playable quality unlike gamechat streaming that was like 10fps even in their trailers

[shrewd oracle]

(there is a gameshare function to let you play games of other ppl but that's not what i mean)

[shrewd oracle]

i assume it's like nso where they want to have tested it first before dumping it on there with all the options

[green crater]

Yeah, I wasn't thinking automatically and just more "could they just see if the game works and if it does add it to the allowed list"

But having it have to start from inside the game answers that

[shrewd oracle]

they don't want something with gameshare without making sure it's good first

[toxic delta]

update does not equal that kind of DLC

Switch 2 updates are seperate thing and bit of games with DLC (free or paid) already got them

like Captain Toad Treasure Tracker as was posted lol

[vagrant hound]

My tired eyes thought you said Magolor’s Tome Tracker

[toxic delta]

Toad is Magolor?!

[vagrant hound]

Captain Toad game is just Magolor Epilogue but longer!

[shrewd oracle]

tbh you should be able to upgrade captain toad to make black holes

[violet gorge]

You should make his dizzy animation attack stronger lol

[sudden mirage]

captain toad should have a big sword I think

[acoustic sage]

Captain Toad should be able to throw a miniature version of his spaceship

[forest shell]

when does scw release again

[fading tartan]

august 28!

[lucid minnow]

that’s right!

[forest shell]

yay!

[gaunt steppe]

Are we thinking 2 levels per world

[toxic delta]

at least 2 stages per world for sure (besides Lab Discovera, unknown for that)

but there could be more

they also all seem to be getting unique themes which is nice

[sterile quartz]

Have we gotten ANY new stuff yet

[rocky berry]

we will.soon

[sterile quartz]

Kirby Tomorrow

[tepid burrow]

Don’t start that again

[sand patrol]

tbf its been at least a month since that joke got beaten to death so its do for another round

[errant plank]

Kirby in 5 seconds

[tribal igloo]

Kirby right now

[lucid minnow]

Kirby next month

[sand patrol]

nobody has really brought it up but if this expansion is just post game i think the level selection could be non linear

[toxic delta]

we do see the meteors hit in some of the stages but maybe to an extent yeah
though Forgo Dreams is linear iirc when there's not really any justification for it so who knows

oh yeah also second Wondaria stage isn't visible in the Treehouse
though hard to tell if it's just a thing for there or what

[vagrant hound]

mfw elfilin got abducted but teleported back for some reason in star crossed world

[toxic delta]

actually same for Alivel in reveal trailer so

and we know that is a stage

so it's probably gonna be mostly linear again

[lean grove]

or at the very least you need to complete the first stage to unlock the second of each world

and then maybe beating that unlocks the boss level or whatever
assuming they aren't repeating SA boss levels or Forgo Dreams and making the boss at the end of the level

[toxic delta]

true could be that

hard to tell if Abandoned Beach's is open either though

don't see any obvious crystal elements at least

but could be obscured

[high widget]

oh theres no clouds

[reef patrol]

Nintendo getting the drab x die slop out of the way before SCW, we’ll get that overview trailer soon enough

[outer veldt]

Soon I hope

And we cope

[reef patrol]

DxD releases in the middle of august and SCW releases at the end of the month so it appears to be next in line

Are there any other August releases?

[vagrant hound]

https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/News/2025/August/Upcoming-games-August-2025-2884004.html

When you’re in the August release competition and your opponent is ball game and Demon Slayers

[random tendon]

so since we are getting a partner showcase tomorrow at this point I think for this game we will just get more random news drops lol

[vagrant hound]

Kirby was forgotten

[toxic delta]

they forgot the land....

[tepid burrow]

And now there’s a star-crossed world.

[lucid minnow]

If we don't get anything kirby related, we'll riot /j

[tepid burrow]

Agreed /j

[turbid nexus]

Honestly we have to get something next week then right

[obtuse berry]

Sorry, I dropped all the new footage down a 70 story building

[robust tundra]

Probably dropped on a video unceremoniously

[obtuse berry]

No more new info

[turbid nexus]

Damn we gotta delay it again
At least nobody ate the game this time

[outer veldt]

Nintendo has forgotten about kirby

[sudden mirage]

yeah so when are we getting that overview trailer

[tepid burrow]

Probably tonight

Just Like, once again Mario Paint NSO and Drag X Drive

[sand patrol]

I mean for this game

[sudden mirage]

You know what

Sure

Make a week out of it

[sand patrol]

Im content with getting no new info

Or at the very least minimal info

[toxic delta]

tbf the Drag x Drive one still hasn't been released in JP lol

[tepid burrow]

Interesting.

[shrewd oracle]

Tbh i kind of agree bc I assume it's not going to be that long given it's a $20 dlc and from what we know not every level is remixed

We'll probably still get some overview trailer or something tho

[toxic delta]

tbf officially they've barely clearly actually shown stuff either

hell the only reason we know what the story actually is is because of figures in the demo. that we only have English of

we don't even have the original JP

or any other language (despite demo being in a bit)

[shrewd oracle]

yeah i mean i'm not saying there's not more they could show

since it's working off FL tho i feel like i'm fine not really knowing all that much more until it releases

since we can actually enjoy a kirby release without datamines for once lol

[toxic delta]

I mean, could get leaked

[shrewd oracle]

only issue would be potential physical leaks but idk if people will care enough to get it early even

[shrewd oracle]

also bc like

[toxic delta]

I mean someone got Rune Factory's Switch 2 Edition before that released, if people are getting that I wouldn't have too much doubt (and remember people played SA early too)
either way stuff is definitely getting immediately posted on release day as always lmao

[shrewd oracle]

we actually have a release date for this game lol

unlike air riders or prime 4

[shrewd oracle]

that was a new game

[toxic delta]

even moreso if it's 'short'

[shrewd oracle]

the only way star-crossed world is even leaking physically is for the full FL + scw release at $80

the upgrade pack is just a code

[toxic delta]

yeah I know

[toxic delta]

and I'm sure it won't have as much as DKB

anyway only around 4 more weeks left, we'll see when we get there

[tepid burrow]

There’s more mouthful modes?! https://vxtwitter.com/KirbyInformer/status/1950614781263532437

Kirby Informer (@KirbyInformer)

According to Nintendo, Star-Crossed World will feature multiple new Mouthful Mode abilities. We expected this to be the case, but it’s always good to have official confirmation!

https://ntdo.com/6015AyHd3 https://t.co/vNmzHNSWex

vxTwitter / fixvx · Jul 30, 2025, 5:49 PM

[toxic delta]

I mean they've said this since the start

it's nothing new

Treehouse was explicit with it and other stuff used plural too

[tepid burrow]

Oh.

[sonic quail]

Was the nrw copy ability singular or plural

[toxic delta]

if you mean in the description singular (but that's an error to begin with and we have no real indication if there is any)

there's possible Nintendo Dream hint but that's probably about evolutions

[heady ravine]

I wonder what the other mouthfuls will be.

In particular, I wonder if there will be any that are adjecent to any of the contest entries.

Because that would be pretty cool.

[tribal igloo]

WHAT

[sand patrol]

we knew this

[heady ravine]

it seems like some people didn't to be fair

we werent sure if it was confirmed or not, ourselves

[random tendon]

how is this any different than this

it's even why we made our recent challenge lol

[sudden mirage]

if anything I think this proves it wasn’t a mistake before

[sand patrol]

i think you could conclude that anyways

like one new mouthful was clearly just a taste of it

[twin fog]

hard to be a mistake when like this line is basically with every single official mention of this game yea

[toxic delta]

yeah they said it multiple times

[random tendon]

not sure why people would think it's a mistake when it's in multiple places

yeah lol

[sand patrol]

it would be cool if they literally do not show anymoreo f them

[sudden mirage]

well now we’re really really sure!

[random tendon]

only the ability thing is mentioned once and that's why we aren't sure

[toxic delta]

again, Treehouse said it even more explicitly

[random tendon]

what if they are all mistakes...

[sudden oracle]

New copy ability announcements when 👀

[heady ravine]

i just wasn't sure, i hadnt looked into it that hard

[sudden mirage]

heartbreaking: spring mouth is fake

[sand patrol]

still very much in no new ability camp

but im now let me see

[sudden oracle]

We need Circus Kirby in Wondaria

[sand patrol]

0/15 on predictions

so god bless

[sudden mirage]

idk about new abilities but I think we’ll see some new evos

at least one

[sand patrol]

yea

give me star-crossed cutter

[sudden mirage]

we’re getting space ranger 2

[twin fog]

Crystaller Needle

[toxic delta]

watch it be like
Crystal Fleur Tornado

[broken void]

I bet they're holding onto spray paints and just haven't shown them at All

[sand patrol]

though i think a starry themed evo would make sense

[random tendon]

crystal morpho knight sword

[sudden oracle]

Crystal Toy Hammer 😭

[sudden mirage]

if we don’t get spray paints I’m killing them

[tepid burrow]

Mike please

[heady ravine]

PLEASE

[wise flame]

Uses for coins:

• Evolve/Upgrade
• Gacha
• Drugs

Uses for Star Coins:

• Evolve/Upgrade
• Gacha
• ???

[ocean ingot]

Invincible Candy stock item :D

[tepid burrow]

2 hours before possible Star-Crossed World Overview Trailer Shadowdrop.

[toxic delta]

it'd be more like an hour and 20 minutes if they did it

though again, Drag x Drive's was never uploaded in JP lol

[tepid burrow]

Now we wait for news. May not happen but who knows

[shrewd oracle]

it didn't

[toxic delta]

as I expected, nothing

they just uploaded the JP Drag x Drive trailer lol

[shrewd oracle]

they just dropped drag x drive overview trailer on nintendo jp youtube

and nintendo today internationally

[tepid burrow]

[shrewd oracle]

tbf this would be like the worst time to reveal it

in between the partner showcase announcement and airing

it'll probably just be next week or something

[tepid burrow]

So we have to wait a while now…

[sand patrol]

next week the earliest

[tepid burrow]

I’m inpatient so I can’t wait.

[shrewd oracle]

4 weeks away now

[sand patrol]

prolly get a trailer next week

or some kind of new info

prolly on nintendo today

[tepid burrow]

I’m prepared!

[sudden oracle]

I stick by my bingo board

[tepid burrow]

Right above the Mother 3 Plushies!

[robust tundra]

[tepid burrow]

Neichel please

[heady ravine]

dark nebula in scw would go crazy

[lean grove]

would be funny if they decided to merge both news drops for SCW and Air Riders and get a full on Kirby direct

of course that implies they're able to stretch out that news to 15-20 minutes so maybe not unless they decide to reveal even more stuff for some reason like idk maybe switch 2 performance patches for the other games

[toxic delta]

talk about JP-only merch and adaptations, clearly

or something along those lines lmao

[warm briar]

Guys I was thinking what if the Starries were actually fragments of Galacta Knight and maybe he came back towards the end of the game? It might make sense for him to come back this way after fusing with the butterfly in Kirby Star Allies

[toxic delta]

probably not, especially with the latter part

[sand patrol]

That wouldn't really make sense

[toxic delta]

if they wanted to bring him back they would do what they always do (space-time shenanigans)
also wouldn't really make too much sense and contradicts the potential foreshadowing in SKC Channel

[sand patrol]

I think a lot of the galacta knight connections are superficial

[toxic delta]

I mean there's definitely stuff going on
but it's not that strict and even if it was, SKC is right there lol

[sand patrol]

The antlers on the starries aee more like elfilis

[toxic delta]

oh you mean to Starries

yeah there's barely any specific connections

[wise flame]

Antlers, or wings??

[toxic delta]

also the crystal ability was never something GK could do, and the appearence isn't really similar either

really lot of motifs in this mode in general are just common Kirby ones (including some to base FL too)

TDX and RtDL DX also has good chunk of these lmao

[tribal igloo]

She star my world until I star crossed worlds

(Kill me😭)

[tepid burrow]

Wait… THE COLORS ARE THE SAME!

This Is probably a dumb fact but it’s nice to notice

(Also someone on Twitter found this out so I shared it.)

[random tendon]

twitter when they learn the color wheel

[toxic delta]

they're not really the same anyway lol

I do not see Elfilin Green or rainbow and not all were used at once in the song anyway

[random tendon]

also just looking at the colors and ignoring my whole write up next to it is also bad 😭

In "Welcome to the New World!", Star White is used before Neichel's name is revealed; once her name shows up in the screen, the penlights change to Another Dimension Violet, likely representing how she is pretty much coming from another world. Once she starts singing, Elfilin Green is used to represent her, matching both the meaning of her name in the new world language ("nature") and Elfilin being from the new world. Once the chorus of the song kicks in, both Elfilin Green and Star White are used, and only Star White is used in the middle instrumental part of the song, as Ohmoto walks back to stage. During the duet between Ohmoto and Neichel, Kirby Pink is used when Ohmoto sings, reflecting her role as Kirby's voice actress, and Elfilin Green is used when Neichel sings; when the two sing together, both colors are used, although at the climax of the song (the "走れ [...] きらめく草原をなで ようこそ" verse), Rainbow is used instead. Finally, during the instrumental outro, Soul Blue is used to represent the blue skies of the new world, and ultimately Star White concludes it

[toxic delta]

and like, you can probably do this for most stuff

[toxic delta]

yeah
lot of the color stuff was timed (including for the penlights)

[random tendon]

yup

[toxic delta]

stage lights and the border ones too, but they never officially listed those

still love the detail they put into it

[sand patrol]

wtf

they didnt need to be that elaborate

[random tendon]

they are crazy, I had fun documenting the penlights https://wikirby.com/wiki/Kirby_30th_Anniversary_Music_Festival#Penlight_usage

[toxic delta]

also probably worth noting Elfilin Green also sort of matches her outfit
(though really there is more than one interpretation to bit of these in general)

[toxic delta]

not just for comparing Welcome to New World penlight colors to other stuff, but for comparing SCW stuff to other song penlight colors
Crystal Fleurina is Magolor....

[sand patrol]

i do think the red is supposed to be the corrupting force of the meteor

since it has the red glow

and its sort of infused with the crystals

[ocean ingot]

I will say I remember seeing some crystal somewhere with the tealish, Elfilin Green kind of hue, vaguely

[high widget]

I say color palettes being shared among the same game is very very common

[tacit saffron]

no way Star Allies alt mid boss palette when

[lean grove]

kirby is pink
galacta knight is pink
luigi is pink

what does this mean

[high widget]

when was luigi pink

[wise flame]

You mean Luigi the 3rd

Or was it the 4th?

[sand patrol]

https://vxtwitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/1951583756264829052?t=nAfPcp0bavRJDNKAT8LioQ&s=19

Nintendo of Europe (@NintendoEurope)

How it started

How it’s going

The power of the meteor transforms the world in #Kirby and the Forgotten Land – #NintendoSwitch2 Edition + Star-Crossed World, arriving August 28th! https://t.co/TwHqmc3UgI

vxTwitter / fixvx · Aug 2, 2025, 10:00 AM

[turbid nexus]

I hope we don’t get an overview trailer and all news of this game will be shown on random Twitter posts referencing outdated memes

[tribal igloo]

e

-# I'll delete my message if it's to much

[sand patrol]

yea its too much

get rid of it

[tribal igloo]

you know what I am just gonna get rid of it😓

Sorry gang

[sand patrol]

(i have no clue what the message was)

[wise flame]

Fuck you Nintendo (x2)

[amber tinsel]

Please give me content...... ough.....

I haven't been in this thread in like a month

Did we get literally anything since the Abandoned Beach remix

[turbid nexus]

No

Like

Literally nothing

[amber tinsel]

😭

[ocean ingot]

the Wondaria remix...

[turbid nexus]

I know I said this like multiple times but we should be getting an overview trailer soon I’m so sure of it

[twin fog]

Actually SCW is cancelled to 2027

[ocean ingot]

I ate SCW, the crystals looked too much like Konpeitō, SCW will never come out

[turbid nexus]

Oh yeah there was a Nintendo Today preview with Crossing Wonderia
Nothing too big since we already saw it in Treehouse but still nice to hear the music better

[amber tinsel]

We got that during the Treehouse though

Ahhh ok a newer look