#Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)
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starry crossed world holding back the next 3d game 
like i feel like the development schedule kinda would be really weird if they didn't already finish it by then
because then what were they doing in between all that stuff
im still hoping a ns1 version of it gets announced soon
maybe someone might figure out how to mod it in but fat chance they do it soon without being able to datamine the NS2 and being able to reverse engineer the original game
basically not anytime in the next 5 years
yeah thats not happening
Personally I can't imagine why HAL would randomly decide to make paid DLC suddenly unless Nintendo approached them about it to promote the Switch 2
Just doesn't seem very HAL
Or at the very least if they did ever decide 'we should do paid DLC' I'd have imagine they wouldn't have only made that decision so late that it ends up taking 3 years for it to come out
gotta follow what the higher up says
yeah, and there's good chance they did just see this as working better on Switch 2 anyway
i mean its also weird that they decide to do something that aligns with it being basically a switch launch title
this is more of a air rider topic, but I wonder if they'll plan on charging dlc if that game ever gets one
i feel like its less likely than smash
in the sense that its hard to imagine Bandai Namco sustaining development in a way that is worth it
like i could see it being the first Kirby game to get balance changes after launch but like not really them continuing to add new content instead of just releasing the game and moving on
guess it's a bit hard to see a one-&-done game nowadays for me
(also battle royale was the first game w/ gameplay balance updates)
hmm
i think the thing is that it seems like they're either taking the least riskiest option and making a sequel as DLC probably because they don't know if they can carry over every gameplay system into a new game even if it could sell better or they just were able to do it more easily with it being the best selling kirby game that also happens to be the most recent one
and also a startling lack of forced NS2 gimmicks if it was made to show off the new system tbh
hmm,...nah
I mean it's not really a sequel if it's built from same level (part)s
it isn't like we're say, going to Pop Star or something
also we can't say if there's lack of Switch 2 gimmicks if we haven't seen much
even SA only had the Switch's gimmick in....two sub-games
its technically a sequel in the strictest sense that it has a new story and not new gameplay
is HiAD a sequel
like I do sort of expect mouse minigame in the new hub tbh
probably not since they don't really give it a proper story in the same way this does
like there's probably a reason Star Crossed World is on the boxart instead of just being called NS2 Edition full stop
I mean it is the main addition
like how RtDL DX has Magoland (though not by name)
also Jamboree is similar (Super Mario Party Jamboree – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Jamboree TV)
so I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes a trend with Switch 2 Editions in general
it kinda counts as a sequel to SA's story mode
or rather a continuation
new joycon mouse subgame where kirby works part time in an office job at waddle dee town
moving up from burger flipping
actually it'll be where you connect Starries
like those connect the dots activities but the dots are Starries
or like Paint Panic
maybe you can unlock constellations
where you get exclusive art made by a different artist
for each level
Counterpoint: Let us create our own constellations, like in older Animal Crossing games, and then have them visible sometimes in the sky
yirgg this isn't like MKDS where you can draw your own emblem
where?
give me sec!
like Navi from OOT
SONG
IT GOES HARD
song?
WONDARIA
WHATDARIA
Neichel
oh?
OH NEWS
THEY BLOCKED THE VIDEO WHAT
NO…
Blocked??
WHAT NO
THEY BLOCKED IT
THERE MUST BE A WORKAROUND
record it using another camera lmao
There ALWAYS IS
HUH
REAL
WAIT WHAT HAPPENED???
HAHAHA
3DS camera GO
REAL
Honestly not much was revealed from what we saw already
that legit sucks but I imagine they are doing this because they don't want people to share these on social media they want us to use the app lol
But the MUSIC, we NEED IT
but for preservation? that sucks
📰 [Kirby™ and the Forgotten Land – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + Star-Crossed World] Stage Intro #3
View this content in the Nintendo Today! app: 🔗 today.oatmealdome.me
should work in a few minutes even if it won't embed lol
oh good
Theres always a workaround 
oh wait this is good for wikirby
Does this mean we'll see Crossing Wondaria's JP name
They don't actually show the level name anyways
oh ahh funny video
okay good it shows up
Homing Bomb jumpscare
can they at least make a decent app that shows everything at once then smh
and can be viewed on PC
or on you know, the Switch
anyway I will just get the videos from this account as it's easier than like cropping myself
ah lol
it's definitely good backup at least
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should be embed now
common ios L
oh i noticed smth!
whenever theres star crossed world news its always at 11 am est
wait when do you unlock homing bomb again in the game?
I posted all 3 kirby stuff we got to day in #kirby-kingdom
Winter horns
So world 4
wdym the Berlin demo was actually in German and not just English and yet I've barely seen footage of it lol
unfortunately they don't show very beginning of the stage and cut off the results (if they got any figures), but here's Crystal Wild Frosty's and Starry's German names, also ingame pic of Spring Mouth
(from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0bmYQbf5dQ)
Astralinis....
well this doesn't really in anyway reveal the order of the new content
ios bros we're screwed
they blocked the screenshot as well
audio still gets recorded but the video isnt
time to get another phone
real!
whats getting blocked and why?
video recording and screenshot taking of the app's videos
probably to prevent people from recording and posting it on twitter and other social media
Hopefully the quality isn’t shit
(The quality is shit)
which is very understandable, its common
..oops
i already did that
Oh yeah there ya go
Sadly it’s very strict in Japan to record stuff like these and post them on social media because it’s intended for specific app or specific audiences, and for personal use
People have higher risk of getting fined or arrested if they do it in the country, but I believe because Nintendo is in Japan, they’re trying to do it to prevent from people posting it outside the intended perimeter 
This is why you don’t see almost no videos online of the Nintendo Switch 2 events, they restricted people from recording or taking videos and post them on social media— people has been asked to stop the demo if they’re trying to pull their phone or camera to take one
apparently Milano demo was in Italian too but like all the footage is brief enough to where I never noticed (and none have any new names of anything)
Okay now that I can hear the music much better, the part at the end doesn't sound like the synth at all lol
That standee really makes you think, is that what the residents of the Forgotten Land looked like before they were destroyed by Fecto Forgo? (The astronaut figure)
Or is that just a cartoonish representation of them?

cartoonish probably
I think so too
but it's a fictional series anyway (well, for Wondaria I mean)
👍
like I doubt the dogs Wondy and Wondog were based on were actually so round lmao
Neichel was actually an octopus
The one we saw during the concert was a gijinka
XD
Sunflower from PvZ
Nah that’s Laura Shigihara
I mean some of the New World's fauna can be pretty cartoonish in proportions
Maybe they were based on a rounder relative of the awoofies
Imagine if we got more backstory of the FL in this
tbf it's hard to tell if they were always like that
most indication we have is with Primal Awoofies
but even that mentions their ancestors
Well still
Starries seem like they were the protectors of the FL due to the lore that was found out about them via gacha figurine
It's possible they've looked like that for millions of years, and only started becoming sapient after the humans left
So they evolved more mentally than physically
They came due to a force that is stronger that they could handle perhaps
Would make sense
don't really seem directly related, they were from another planet and have just been wandering Another Dimension
if they're protector it was probably more for everywhere in general
Yeah true
So like Barnyard kind of
But maybe they needed Kirby (and Elfilin’s) help because they have foreseen how powerful Kirby (and potentially Elfilin) are
I don't really think that's what's being implied
it really just seems like their sole purpose was to seal away the meteor
My point is maybe it became so powerful that they couldn’t handle it on their own anymore and needed an outside force to help them
WHAT.
lore now
(please) 'w'
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FINALLY
(from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTC7gHkNipQ)
I SEE............
don't forget the other pin
who the fuck keeps sending freaky things from space.
bothers me that they just call it Great Evil like straight up
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WAIT THAT VIDEO HAD TWO
WHATS HAPPENING IS THERE NEW STUFF WHERE????
no its the stuff you saw
and we still don't have JP for these (or any others besides Spring Mouth, Crystal Tortuilding and the Waddle Dee ones)
how long were you gone for
either way, not much
new nintendo today video i mean
there was Crossing Wondaria video on Nintendo Today but that's not much new lol
yeah
also got good video of Berlin demo earlier so we got few German names I guess
Worns, for short
once or twice basically
Once Forbidden Lands concludes, they just GOTTA show us the newer new stuff
ok that video was kinda nothing
Wintorns
lol
Wintorns for not-as-short
Winterns
Worms
clearly we should abbreviate it as ホワホル
NOOO

Wintorns XP
I like how the wondaria remix is secretly just a boxboy song 
(I mean it's an ishikawa song probably rearranged by ando so that's not too out of place for the conditions to form)
listening to the wondaria rwmix again, i genuinely cannot tell what time signature it is
10/4? 13/4???
yeah idk either lol
When the epilogue remixes themes from past levels 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪
them explicitly showing homing bomb does give more inkling this beign post game in some way
though ive been lied to before
they've literally called it a new story idk why they would make the story happen at the same time as the old one unless they wanted serious issues with the pacing
yep they sure will make elfilin appear out of nowhere despite being kidnapped
that's definitely going to happen
or they make it where you are locked out of SCW temporarily until you rescue him again

They’re probably gonna let you access it in the main story and leave it up to interpretation when it takes place
Funny thing is that I can literally see Elfilin still being present in SCW-specific stages and story even if he gets kidnapped
i dont because they have a whole system for that to show whether or not elfilin shows up or not
You can actually only access it after clearing all extra hard levels in tilt n roll
The best thing SCW could do honestly is add more levels to Tilt n’ Roll
the Starries seal Galacta Knight within a level of Tilt n' Roll Kirby and you get to play the new ultra hard level with a new remix of Galacta's theme playing in the background
it's played entirely on xylophone
oh and there's a kazoo in there somewhere too, of course
Instead of rolling Kirby around you roll Galacta Knight around
horse plinko but instead of horse its gala
sealed for their crimes
is this that new video series people love to see nowadays
WHAT IS THIS GIF LMAOOOO
I need more Kirby in my life
Real
A little bit of Kirby in my life
what if the starries are from halfmoon?
Kumazaki's site is named after it so this is true
wouldn't really call it a twinkling planet
Half Moon is so pretty
though it does have crystals too in SSU
but terrain doesn't seem too similar to the sus blue stuff
can't believe they took half the planet bro
yes
people have prolly already noticed it but I jsut did. It looks like the heart will get resealed as you progress
wonder how the final boss will inevitably break out in the end
im guessing it wont
the figure descriptions seem to imply the metoer itself is the entity
and it is creating constructs
so im guessing it will create something
elfilin will trip in the air and fall into the heart, breaking the seal and activating crystal elfilis 
the only thing thats weird is the new enemies dont really match the color of the meteor
meteor is like dark purple and red on the inside
enemies are blurple and pink
oh that makes sense
if i were to guess
this will be directly tied to starries collected
like forgo dreams
not just strickly getting to the end
do wonder if that piece seen in the trailer was made in beginning stuff (after the pre-rendered cutscene obviously)
since they have 0 Starries collected in Natural Plains there
Well, the Crystal Fluerina seems to have the dark purple and red colors as a part of its design
anyway, could just basically awaken with most of the crystal on it/unexpectedly fuse with it
or maybe it comes into contact with something else idk
yeah almost certainly not
imagine if the red part becomes an eye
im not writing it off completely but the GK connections are looking pretty superfluous
figures made it pretty unlikely it'd be GK in main story too lol
again only place I could see him is in the Cup
like RtDL (DX) style
I like GK but I don't want him to just be shoved in obviously (and some people definitely try to connect him to everything whenever a new game is revealed LMAO)
idk how else to describe it lmao
no its a good word i like it im just joking around
he does just kinda show up
do his thing
dies
kinda hard to get invested when im supposed ot think he is just cool off basis
like in the hierarchy of these kind of second final bosses i think the master crown is the best one
hmm
what if instead of having its own final boss
it adds an extra stage to one of the final boss stages
like if it gets sealed fully but what if it comes back later
Star-Crossed World takes place before the Main Story 
i actually noticed that theres also a lot of blue and pruple blobs left around like this guy
so its coloration is actually a combination of the crystals and the meteor
so yea i think its likely its using the residual crystal formations to contruct its own guys
oh is that part really supposed to be the meteor, I thought it was just like part of the crystal stuff (especially with it basically becoming the planet terrain in the 'Wish you were here' sign)
i think its part of the crystals
im just saying that its using these to build its own forces
ah
starts with the weird looking goo for its core then forms the crystals around it
Im still wondering what they're going to do with the bosses
Are they just going to be reskins?
Will aeon hero be there?
And most importantly
What are they going to do with the new secret final boss?
only actual new boss waiting at the end with semi harder rematches of pre-existing fights
expectation
Like the arena or a stage filled with bosses
Like the midboss tower and the 2nd to last stage
but maybe they'll put a twist on it
think bosses will be mix of FL ones and new ones
but it depends on how many
we've been here since ROTK
So like, new boss, crystal woods, new boss, crystal dedede, ect
I'm hoping for a Crystal Tropic and Crystal Carol at least yeah
Carol for penultimate one, Tropic because it would be cool (moreso if they do the original concept for it finally)
I know that this is just copium, but i really want a crystal magolor boss fight
do you mean like tropic being tall/infused with a building?
Half tree half king golem
we do now climb up a skyscraper so...
I was just thinking like
(from https://gigi9714.wordpress.com/2022/07/31/translation-of-the-kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-interview-from-the-june-2022-edition-of-nintendo-dream/)
and it could go well with crystal (path) stuff
could also do a non-Tropic boss with the idea of course
Building Woods
So kind of similar to whispy from mass attack
i actually think there might be original bosses
jsut not many
cause i dont really see crystal bosses fitting into the story
I only see a few fitting yeah
with the new midboss-like enemy they're almost certainly gonna do some new ones
Honestly I can see the boss fights showing up at the end of each second stage for SCW
Assuming they aren’t going to be fought in their own separate stages
Like how Phantom bosses show up at the end of each stage in Forgo Dreams
King Golem
that's Stone Tower Woods
kirby in 1993: "we will make this new revolutionary mainline game for a console that was already replaced 3 years ago 😎 "
kirby now: "sorry you need to buy a new console to play the dlc of a game you already own😁"
yknow this isnt a decision made by hal right
the higher ups at nintendo are the ones taking them
You know, Star Crossed World might take advantage of the Switch 2's power and might be straight up unplayable in the Switch 1 without the game crashing or frame drops happening all the time
I still wonder how the hell RTDLDX manages to run at 60fps
Indeed. It's the best looking Kirby 2D game on the Switch and it's also the smoothest at the same time
But then again as neat as it'd be for SCW to be available for Switch 1... They're already dead set on making this for Switch 2
It's not just the content to consider here, but also the revamped texture work and effects.
Plus have you seen all the enemies in the Wondaria Crystal level?
no way the Switch 1 would support all of them on screen without frequent frame drops
Ok real question (if a modder or so is here), how many enemies can you fit on screen until the fps drops in the OG game?
OK just checked the footage, idk how substantial the enemy count looks here tbh
Huh. Weird. I do recall there being a more chaotic segment
It may be the long rollercoaster with the crazy long-distance rendering
Plus there's the fact that the crystals actually reflect stuff
Not that that on its own would make to too powerful for the Switch but you get what I mean
Fuel to the fire or whatever
(We never got reflections in FL have we?)
Dunno, but tbf it's possible there just weren't really any scenarios in which something would be reflected
SCW really is just one big excuse for HAL to show off graphical capabilities and i love it
Last night I had a dream
That Star Crossed World was out
And the new Copy Ability coming to the game was Beam
You get it by inhaling this wizard-looking version of Gigant Edge
And it worked weird
How exactly?
It worked like a sword slash but with more verticality is I guess how I’d describe it. Pressing B gave the little beam thing horizontally and holding it let you send off a big orb that you either aimed with Ranger mechanics or something similar
Tropic Woods could've had a funny monke??? :<
They have Waddle Doos in Halcandra, they must've been brought by the ancients
no thoughts in this thing
A Wizard Gigant Edge sounds like a really fun idea ngl
Kinda wondering if SCW is basically gonna be the closest the kirby series will get to doing an infection/zombie storyline (outside of the soul bosses/Forgo arguably)
And Dark Matter kinda? Idk if they count since they're moreso possession but you could probably stretch the rules a bit to include them
haltmann corp was right there
That's mechanization which I'm pretty sure is it's own distinct thing from infection stuff
(Though you could argue it's a subset of infection tropes tbh)
they had meta knight fight you and actively wanted to mechanize everything so i think it counts
Main thing that I think is gonna differentiate the crystal infection from the mechanization, aside from the obvious, is that whereas Star Dream was very calculating, I feel the meteor will be a very primal, possibly borderline mindless evil
(Would be good contrast to Elfilis/Forgo as well)
From the very few figure descriptions we've gotten from people playing the in-person demo... The crystals, although affecting the environment and creatures, merely just add onto what's there without much in the way of possession...
The meteor seems to be controlling the mini bosses though
Based on the purple color
Doesn't have to be controlling
It is established they are pretty much willd animals so they could just be going feral
arent they already feral
they can be friendly if the end of the game is any indication
they are not like totally animalistic
Ah so like Zootopia
They aren't being actively controlled, but the crystals are affecting their overall nature
You know thinking about it in depth now
What the hell are Kirby enemies problem
They show up to a weird world through a portal and on sight they are like fuck this one guy in particular and attack Kirby
I assumed they were also brainwashed by Forgo like Dedede was since most of them fight with the Beast Pack
Or they could just be super territorial and have it out for Kirby lol
maybe that or they blame the situation they find themselves in because of Kirby
because everything happens around him
Or they are just assholes
creatures being creatures
luckily there never were any naughty waddle dees that Kirby encountered on his path
that or maybe they would try to push back against the Beast Gang a bit more than almost all found on the Forgotten Land
or could be swindled easily via promises or threats
Whiny Critic Waddle Dee
Cranky Dee
"You lousy scoundrels! Back in my day all we would do to our foes is just run back and forth or run into them. Hmph!"
main story-wise, they were given orders to go after Kirby either way (and obviously he's interfering with their plans)
And he just has dededes voice from the anime but old
wait that's so cool
That name is so child like its right up kirbys ally
Thinking about it now, the star at arms looks alot like mega titan
I mean, look
Horns
Pear shaped body
Vizer
4 arms?
Oh shit
Mega Titan is just tad away from Taranza 
Mirror world taranza
If you arrange the letters in "Mega Titan" you get "Deltarune"
If you arrange the letters in "Star-Crossed World", you get "Galacta Knight"
where are the two other arms
Yeah they're gone
Didn’t even saved for others smh
If you arrange the letters in Kirby you get bykir
This is a reference to bikers
If you rearrange madhattrem, you get drawcia soul
This made me choke

tbh they share more in common with the likes of Wham Bam
also
Mega Titan is totally not mirror world counterpart to obscure character Brobo
in that one game that isn't on NSO yet
that was made mostly by a division of Nintendo themselves instead of HAL

though might also share a bit in common with Metal General (both are guardians in a sense)
Wham Bam Jewel is turning into a final boss soul form and finally becoming canon
also the design of Mega Titan might be bit of a foreshadow to Dark Mind
Dark mind’s strongest solider (fan)
yes
I wonder what the evil in the meteor is this time
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Its jamba heart shaped but i doubt its termina agajn so soon
Uh yeah it's called a heart
could be related but the core stuff is weird at least
Boid terminal
I kinda only really see the jamba heart connection in shape, the close ups we've gotten of it just look different imo
Like colors? Black-ish and pink/red
Appears almost... Rocky?
Has a shell look kinda like SDSOS's core
when crystal comes off there's some dark parts but we also know it was sealed with crystals (and dark parts are not visible from surface) so it's probably not natural thing in whatever way Jamba Heart is?
This is kinda what'd I'd see the heart doing at some point, the wing/spike looking parts unfolding to unleash something, idk, random idea i had
NO WAY
WE'RE GONNA GET KIRBY SEPHIROTH?????
some people say this is like a jamba heart, while others say its not related AT ALL.
this IS the forgotten land so it has to be different
yeah im leaning towards the latter
latter?
not related
ah
yea, its definitely not related. but it looks like it. also void has nothing to do with said look alike here so this is something entirely different.
thats what i think too
think they might still have a relation but it's probably not super-direct if so?
Hrm, give me a moment here...
at least, there is stuff going on to distinguish them
"Latter" refers to the second item in a two item list. And for reference, the first would be the "former"
Ok I might just be seeing things here
But I swear they re-used the Jamba heart's design for this heart's "shell"
thnx for that! and yea, this "jamba heart" looks off.
Very big stretch, I know. I just look at the bottom points of both hearts and I swear I see the same exact crystalline notches for both of them
Clearly the Jamba Heart is related to the Starries 
But big difference is that the Jamba heart is just crystalline by default
Meanwhile this thing has layers
🧅
there's also the thing of 'this thing was sealed in the first place with crystals'
Yes, I already acknowledged this
Gryll

though this does have dark parts fly out when it fragments too
but like I don't think that was originally there either/could have something to do contamination from with meteor itself
I mean it splits into dark heart pieces that aren't crystal and instead smooth so 
Plus you gotta wonder, why did the darkness say Fuck You to Hyness and turn into a jamba heart and eat him
mad at him accidentally failing the ritual and splitting it apart, clearly 
But legit, I wonder if like the Jamba Heart isn't supposed to be crystalline and that's just a remnant of a sealing power that's actually meant to contain the darkness
yeah could be
though we never see part underneath like this one has so was Jamba Heart completely consumed/transformed or something
whatever the hell this is

Dinner
I'm still brainrotted by how Crystal Fleurina has like
clearly the color palette of the evil heart thing in her dress
Even though we know now that the crystallization is from the power of the starries whose crystalization power is meant to seal evil
So like the evil meteor's power is still attached to those crystal pieces that split off of it
yeah, there's some weird color stuff with Crystal Wild Frosty too but this is pretty explicit
Crystal Wild Frosty has like this one line of it running around his head but its so much less prominent lol
does crystal frosty have a figure
yes
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not the best quality but
more figures
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLy2qFgs8Kw at around 1:58:40)
They’re gonna copy and paste this description to Crystal Edge and Bonkers too aren’t they lol
Tbh it really gives off the same vibes as the Parallel DDD and MK descs from SA where most of it is just like
Summarizing the base game story
Though at least those reveal something more interesting about how Parallel DDD and MK got created from the story events while Crystal Wild Frosty's is just like 'yea no shit'
it almost feels like a demo description
but like, idk if it's actually that or not
feels very weird
seems rather standard to me
That'd be funny if they wrote demo descriptions instead of just not including CWFrosty as one of the obtainable figures
yeah, especially when stuff like Starry ones clearly aren't lmao
like those ones are definitely final
i think its pretty standard to have very generic descriptions considering they're randomly unlockable but also only the first set
they usually save the in-depth stuff for later sets and stuff with specific unlock conditions
suppose so, guess it's moreso stuff like the tone that feels off
do really wonder how it is in JP
🧌
I really hope the star crossed world takes time to beat and isn’t just like a 2 hour add on
Yeah I am getting that vibe 
Provided it isn’t a long wait until the next Kirby game I guess
think it'll feel a bit longer than that either way, depending on how much they add
we got at least 12+ stages, likely 2+ Treasure Roads, whatever new hub or whatever it is has to offer, obviously likely bosses
figures also, likely both directly and indirectly
keep in mind FL already takes longer than previous games for even the main story on average (probably partially because of the style)
FL is still rather short its like 10ish hours
good chance there'll be at least something new (evolved) ability-wise too
you say that as if 2D main series games aren't usually like 4
like 4-5 is the average for modern game
id say they are also around that time to 100%
meanwhile FL is more like 6-7 for the main story (on average)
though keep in mind playtime can also vary way more widely for FL because of all the side stuff that's available during main story (including Treasure Roads)
Yeah, if you're someone like me who dawdles and plays around with everything, the games can go way longer than an average playthrough
The main target audience of SCW is, well, people who got FL (as per the logistics of Switch 2 Editions)...
I'm certain they'll make this DLC as beefy as the main game...
all the work hours was spent on making particle effects. There's nothing else other than new levels sorry 
actually there will be no game
it's all an illusion
For $20, HAL was able to make a small game with a crazy amount of replayability (KF2)
$20 is the perfect price because if they went lower, we'd get Kirby's Dream Buffet
(You need to find the funny crystal flower to see the game)
B- but i love Dream Buffet, i love to play it 🥺
Dream Buffet may be $5 less than KF2 but unfortunately it made the fatal mistake of... not having a single-player focused mode
moreso it needed more options/replayability
not even being able to select map for Single Race, Single Battle Royale, etc. modes is weird
a Time Trial for Races of some kind would have also been nice
Where's my story mode with a final boss fight against the server hands Hal? Saving it for the Switch 2 Edition?
Ooh more constellations, just like Astronomer Dee's hat... Sectonia confirmed /j
i feel like every hype cycle the kirby fandom gets more and more delusional
im going to eat every diamond/4point star int he world
Don't worry Clay, the next Kirby game will feature a common motif already found in the series as a whole as its main focal point, at which point everyone will start connecting the dots
Hearts and Stars, an unavoidable constant in Kirby
I cant wait for the bourbon deep lore
Bourbon Soul
finally, the hexagon lore
well, start eating
Sorry I didn’t play every Kirby game yet what are you trying to imply (serious question)
Four pointed stars being everywhere
Which up until now has merely been an aesthetic thing... But the new stuff from SCW heavily involves it now
You know what ELSE has four points? (technically)
I didn’t read it lol
NO NEW info on the magazine but just wanted to share because it’s just nice to see them ^ ^
they removed that one hammer glitch
!!??
Context: On the magazine, they do a monthly art of drawing portrait of specific character from the game, and somehow they’re doing the new Waddle Dee next month 😭 😭 😭 😭 😭
We’re about to see bunch of Waddle Dee fanart LOOOL
Oh that's fun
They haven’t revealed the name yet, but there’s a slight chance we may find out, slightttttt chance (coping, won’t happen)
They’re already getting so much love and fame for 2 second of appearing <3
is he bandee cuz if hes not ima say if this replaces him im gonna respect bandana dee 100X more
plus i just made 3d art for bandana dee
Odds are that it's a new character, given Bandee has been seen to be playable still
I totally expect some kind of bonus evolution like idk Starry needle or somethin (it will probably be another sword evolution)
Don’t be so pessimistic!
It’ll be a hammer evolution
Honestly i feel like a bonus evolution would kinda be disappointing
to me its just. same old same old, you know?
i think adding a new ability or two could REALLY freshen things up
not that they cant do evolutions, but i think a new abikity would be better
NEXT MONTH?????
whats their name
kuzcoooooo
idgi
make Pufferfish Needle real
really though if they do more evos I expect it to be for every ability (besides Sword and Hammer)
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They haven’t revealed the name yet, but there’s a slight chance we may find out, slightttttt chance (coping, won’t happen)
even then I wouldn't put it completely past them to powercreep themselves and make an upgrade for either of the two that you get from the final boss of the DLC
can't wait for Galacta Sword/Starry Hammer or whatever
there's definitely enough room in the UI if they decided they wanted to do a fifth tier
Hammer but the hammer part of the hammer is just a slightly larger Starry on a stick
invariably I think new Evolutions will probably be the main new content added because if they're making new currency there needs to be something to spend it on
yeah, but as you said it would be special one
compared to others being probably more normally obtained
not that I'm sure what more they could do for a Sword one tbh (unless they gave it Ranger and Drill stuff)
Hammer one they could definitely do bit more stuff though
Disney movie
Anyways don't look at the animated backdrop of Kirby Star Allies title menu for version 4.0
I will not elaborate
Don't even look at the animated backdrop for the file icons either
i say new abilities
eh i only think they could only add 1 new ability, maybe 2
which i think is more likely to be very similar to already existing abilities
which means that returning abilities would be very unlikely
I hope its Parasol, Fighter, or Ninja
Also, Star-Crossed World would be PERFECT for new abilities to show up, because pre existing abilities are already powerful
like i would expect them to do something like add a Crystal Ability except its main attack is making a lingering projectile like Bomb or and its unique stuff is just kinda minor stuff that lets it solve puzzles that normally other abilities like Ranger or Ice would solve
and then as a second new ability, they just add a second screen wipe ability like Mike or Cook or whatever if they want a returning ability
at most, i could see pre existing abilities getting the meta knight treatment
Like maybe a marx inspired bomb ability
i think them making new evolutions is much more likely considering they're likely greatly increasing the difficulty compared to the main story
the old third tier evolutions were designed for the last 1/3rd of the main story
so invariably there's room to make more difficult challenges and more powerful evolutions to make them easier
what would they even do for something like fire????
they'll figure out something
and i highly doubt hammer and sword are getting new evolutions
they made a toy hammer more powerful than a regular hammer so it really doesn't matter as long as it looks different
I think at most, 1 or 2 new abilities, and maybe 4th evolution for abilities without one already
but anyway considering how they treated adding new abilities to RtDL Deluxe, there's a basis that any new abilities they add will need to be very similar to abilities already in the game so that they can still see use outside of the DLC stages
i think its gonna be returning abilities
my bets parasol fighter or ninja
i hope stone doesnt return genuinely though
No offense to the ability, its just not the best for 3D
parasol would make for a better defensive ability if they REALLY wanted one
Imagine Crystal and it can like, make enemies fight for you, almost like weaker helpers
Actually given the figurines have descriptions, it'd be the funniest thing ever if some of the cameo figures talked about what they're currently up to
most likely not
Crystal Needle looks more similar to Rare Stones than the Starry crystals
God I am not ready to inevitably here an electric guitar rendition of the Star Crossed World motif
It’s gonna happen
We all know it’s gonna happen
And I am not ready for it :)
AAAXHWXECHJECEHGH....

Hey does anyone know how the save files look in SCW? Anyone have any screenshots?
I don't imagine they'd look any different...
It's not like Heroes in Another Dimension or Magolor Epilogue where it's a separate mode
all that changes is the world map gets additional stages to select
the rest of the world map stays the same aesthetically, it's only the DLC levels that have a different look
Oh yeah you're right
It's not even like the secondary levels have a crystal effect over them
Though that would basically mean each "site" would be half-crystallized
I'm still waiting for the Crystalized/Star-Crossed Beast Battle
oh right we already know that the midboss battle theme is already a remix of the SCW main theme
and it's in electric guitars too lol
What
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that's what i was talking about lol
the save files would probably be the same
eats your save files
oh I see base game European page updated to mention Switch 2 version
is this best quality we have of this nice Meteor Shower's Arrival render they keep using?
https://www.nintendo.com/en-gb/Games/Nintendo-Switch-games/Kirby-and-the-Forgotten-Land-2045110.html
It's kind of dim...
still better than the other versions we had which were blurry instead
Another Sky, Another City...
if there is another reused final boss in gonna crash out
what if there was and you did
You’re gonna what!!??
we're gonna crash
new background????
new background but with less grayness
i know the final boss arena is gonna look so sick
-# It's the exact same arena you fight Void Termina in
inside or the outside
would be funny if they found some way to do something similar to the inside one lmao
I mean if they do inside it's just another opportunity to have Core-esque stuff for no reason
like, it'd be funny if they found a way to do this again
MAGOLOR SOUL BACKGROUND
Legit I can’t wait to see what they do for the final boss lol
Imagine they only create one brand new mid-boss and then the major bosses are just harder-er versions of existing bosses... But hold on, the final boss is different
the final boss is actually a souped up version of the new miniboss (has the same attacks, but now there's dramatic camera changes & more crystal spawns)
Considering Magolor Epilogue I would not be surprised
hmm yes void soup
THIS IS SO BEAUTIFUL
ACTUAL WALL PAPER MOMENT
(is this a new image?)
Make Elfilin playable and have him have a form like Elfilis since he absorbed his remains and I’ll give SCW a 10/10
Imagine...
良い線いってる!makes me smile
Probably for the final fight? Maybe???
wasn't this turned into arch glider
THIS
would be cool albeit retreading
it seems too simple for the final fight
I would love for it to be something with like some dogfight sequences tho
that would be dope
Could be different than arch in different flight style, since this is a plane, and it's not just gliding
play Star Fox again
Revenge of dreamland
new last battle mouthful will be kirby piloting a fighter jet
And the final Boss will be Neichel herself
neichel soul
Perhaps it's a coincidence, but when i see those crystals,
i'm reminded of the team meteor attacks from Super Kirby Clash.
But then again, crystalline imagery finds itself running through the entire series.
Or mayhaps i should stop, before i go insane, trying to find Lore continuity 😂
oh yeah diamonds are just everywhere Kirby-wise
moments
(few more of the Royal Road ones)
shapes
I can't wait for the sequel to diamonds, hexagons
Guhh
Given the colors, i'd say Pix would probably be the best comparison
if there even is meant to be one
but idk what that would mean unless the halcandrans made pix
i do wonder if they could add more new midbosses that give base game abilities tbh
especially if they decide to add more copy ability evolutions
like its not impossible they decide Wild Fire Lion or whatever and tie it into a Wild Fire evolved copy ability for example
I doubt it
for the base game they seem to be adjusting a few things here and there but only to serve Star-Crossed World and nothing more than that
so far at least
wait a second
i never fucking noticed this what
will this like
be on the regular stage or is this like
specific to the new stage
?
Prolly new stage specific
Pix is most likely a power source
wait something i just realized
when they designed stages and objects for Forgotten Land
they always wanted to give a vibe to the objects where its possible for them to do that in real life
which is why they put like chains and pulleys and stuff on platforms
but thats not applying to the Crystal stuff
this specific example is funny because there's like one part of the oasis stage where they couldn't figure out how to make natural floating platforms so they just left floating chains
I do indeed remember that

fuck I forgot the land

But its magic, Clay!
Maaaaagical
🪄
Man, I love how realistic this game is, everything makes perfect logical sense!
The devious floating pulley platforms:
I feel like this is one of the ONLY exceptions
i think it's right to praise a game for doing a good job if there's like
only one odd case out
you know when we were talking about Crystal/Meteor Elfilis
is that you have to realize Elfilis is already done and settled in UCZ which is part of the plot (somehow)
Maybe a new boss?
Or an amped up chaos effilis like what they did with mags soul in dx
That’s true but knowing this series they could excuse an Elfilis refight via a portal to another dimension or something lmao
Parallel Elfilis
Hear me out
What if elfilin gets hit with a meteor piece, making his elfilis side show more
But also making him go berserk
that's what some think
because Elfilin does start to use his actual powers during the end of FL
plus the remains of Elfilis/Forgo inside him now
somehow, galacta knight returned
Super +: Twin Waning Crescent & Waxing Crescent Pres. Corrupt Parallel Shadow Masked Wild Stock Phantom Forgo Chaos Ringle Soul OS's Revenge Returns DX EX 2.0 (Dark) (True Arena)
Leaked SCW cutscene 
https://fxtwitter.com/EmerxShiu/status/1922297530785604092
Twin Giant Masked Wild Core Forgo Stock Phantom Parallel Chaos Tac Soul OS EX DX 2.0.'s Revenge
real
and then jesus help kirby to break crystals
What if Forgo Dreams became crystallized as well
In a way anyhow, probably not directly
At some point the crystals cause us to enter Elfilin's mindscape for some reason, delving even deeper into the recesses of Elfilis' memories than before
if they did, it'd probably just be one stage
though hard to pick which one when all worlds are doing crystalized first stages already (and Forgo Dreams stages start with those)
unless they did something unique
I mean both this and Forgo Dreams remix certain elements and have more original segments, so this would be like original²
thing is Forgo Dreams start with beginning of first stages
and crystalized version of stages always start with the start
Now that I think about this I'm not sure that's what I meant at all...
What I meant to say is what if Star-Crossed World had a Forgo Dreams(-esque) segment as well
Eternal Echo of the Thrilling Tour-our-our 2.0.
lack of SCW news is making me imagine things
I could agree
SCW just got cancelled wtf,,
dont jumpsacre ppl like that >:(
Say it ain’t so
And we're getting air riders soon... Plus... Forgotten Land is like Blowout Blast with the 3D and the Treasure roads
The FL times were from not using evolutions until after meta knight cup
(is this in this thread because you are trying to figure out how long SCW will be)
Oh me when Im not in kirby-kingdom
oh lol
Ok I've been thinking for awhile and I gotta hear you guys' thoughts on this
Everyone's always saying this and that means crystal galacta knight! But isn't that kind of odd? I mean galacta knight honestly have never really interacted with/used the game's theme before in this series. Not RtDL, not PR. Heck even in games where he uses a gimmick it's completely unrelated to the game's gimmick itself.
I just feel like the Kirby Fandom is getting really near 100% confident in the series doing something completely unprecedented this particular time.
I feel like its almost a certainty for whenever a "x is definitely going to show up in this new game/mode" that what really ends up happening is way cooler than what everyone else thinks is going to happen
I think whatever lore drop we get here is gonna be way more interesting than "galacta knight isn't dead or smth"
we end up getting lore expansion on the mage sisters instead
Peak ⁉️
zan spawns in and says "kirby this is where hyness hide the extra jamba heart" 
Dedede gets off his lazy ass to only then say:
Oh no, this was the heart I was supposed to bring to Hyness!
“dude. I forgot. fuck.”
If this gets pinned it'd be so many levels of ironic I couldn't even begin-
Maybe by July or late June we'll get more SCW news
Or whatever the heck direct is up next
in june, trust
releasing the switch 2 just so nintendo can follow it up to "our first ever post release direct!!!!"
"A loaf of bread, a container of milk and a jamba heart for Hyness"
"A loaf of milk, a container of bread and a Right Back at Ya! DVD"
"A Right Back at Ya! DVD, Neichel and treasure from Secret Sea"
T H E J A M B A H E A R T T H A T K I N G D E D E D E B R O U G H T T O H Y N E S S

dedicated people you could say
the reason why dedede randomly had dark nebula in his basement is because he just got really sidetracked getting that jamba heart for hyness
Dark Nebula is the jamba heart that Dedede was supposed to bring to Hyness
"Oh right..."
"The jamba heart, the jamba heart for Hyness, the jamba heart chosen specially to give to Hyness, Hyness' jamba heart"
"That jamba heart?"
yeah if dedede successfully brought
to hyness, there would've been prosperity, and star allies would've never happened
@toxic delta fuck it for some gut reason im interested in your thoughts lol
I doubt GK is appearing in main story
Starry figures make it very unlikely
at most I think he'll get new Cup fight
i .. okay
are you looking through pinned messages lol
yes because of this
shaved elfilin
Deep Fried Elfilin
i imagined that in chill's voice
i thought the box art didn't have enough clutter yet
can you make it blank
the voices, they won't go away
you mean like this?
where's the Extra
extra what
epic yarn
oh and Ultra, needs Ultra too
add every single number
add every single number but split between the two titles
add them all to both (but with second instance having numbers being from different things than the first, and in different order)
also put HD-2D Remake on there because why not
damn
i mean bob from Monsters vs Aliens is blue and he came from a tomato does that count?
Guys, i just realized that with Switch 2 Editions we can make this title even longer
oh right i'll finally be able to update this thing i made like 2 years ago
Oh also not just Switch 2 edition but also + Star-Crossed World
Kirby’s Dream Adventure Sounds Hard
Nah it's actually pretty easy
Forgotten Buffet Deluxe
Forgotten buffet deluxe would just be dream buffet 2
"Rainbow planet battle"
I'm not sure if that more accurately describes splatoon or rainbow curse
Possessed dedede speedrunning all of chapter 4 while Kirby is exploring chapter 1
Star Stacker 3 Crystal Tumble
it freakin peaks
"epic mass return" 🔥🔥🔥
Somehow, epic mass returned
you know instead of speculating so much about Galacta Knight
Let's speculate about Gryll
why don't we speculate more about the other characters that could play a role in this new story?
Astro Dee 
while at it, EVERYONE SHOULD VOTE GRYLL IN THE NEW POLL AND MAKE SURE TO GET THE KIRBY POLL ROLE FOR WEEKLY KIRBY POLLS-
We should make a poll about which poll is best (it's the one that's about Magolor)
I have so many magolor poll in stocked but people didnt want me to constantly use magolor because he actually swept every poll that he was included in
what importance does Elfilin hold still beyond being the main star and companionship?
wasn't even on the original box art
They really forgot the Elfiland 
dont think ddd or mk will have much relevance w/ star crossed world
we dont even know if there will be any noticeable cut scenes save for the intro and the ending
like hiad or even forgo zone
When Dedede once again falls victim to the new enemy’s mysterious influence!!!!!🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🥶 🥶 🥶
i guess its technically possible for them to appear but like
it's never really been about them
and its the starries' story for this time
forgotten buffet deluxe...
I think that if something happens to Waddle Dee Town in SCW, then Meta Knight would stay there to protect them, as he had been doing during the base story. Dedede I could potentially see him doing something, perhaps to save some Waddle Dees if anything happens to some.
I appreciate it <3
If any character other than magolor got a theme park, which one would be the best to go to?
i wanna say susie
not only bcuz she too is a capitalist bastard
but also i feel she'd do wonders selling haltmann-themed merch
heck, even merch of herself
i'd say dedede too but he'd get bored quickly and would get distracted with the games of his own park
Dedede's Cake Royale is basically one step away from a theme park too
Dedede Resort
yeah
I know someone who'd eat that up like there's no tomorrow
i was gonna say taranza but he's a humble boy
It'd quickly either turn into a one-off attempt to beat Kirby or basically one of his 15 billion castles lol
I find the idea of Susie still wanting to sell merch of haltmann cute and sad
I'm talking about Wolfgang
I think he moreso meant of the company than the guy
@vagrant hound, <t:1745512742:R>: Buy てれびげーむマガジン July 2025
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lol
what's next, will you forget the land too
we need to remind them .
Did you think they would have new treasure roads
