#Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)
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wait...
and they clarify they become the crystals themselves...a lot have to be gathered in order to even do so, scw doesn't happen every time he breaks his, these seem to be blue instead of always pink when you think that'd be a better connection, these starry crystals seem jagged while his is smooth
what if doomers used to look like that
Baby Sphere Doomers
tbf we haven't seen anyone get a dupe yet in general (not counting Spring Mouth obviously)
im personally guessing timetraveller gk has seen these time travelling guys though
and taken inspiration
but that's a guess
i also still don't think it directly has to do with gk getting sealed in a crystal
bc i don't the ancients were going like "wouldn't be ironic if we put him in a crystal?"
and i also doubt the clash kirbys were thinking that lol
but anyways ey actual single piece of evidence now
do wonder what these guys's deal is
heart corruption-mutated Starries? but no natural horns....
could be more related to heart with crystal-mutation too
Why are they so eggplant
if it is related to Void (because possible Jamba Heart), Void does have the potential to become anything so maybe Starry influence?
that's a funny sentence out of context lol
oh right forgot, when they spawn it's pink goop
is this thing here also supposed to be like goop?
or rather the red in the middle
wait
those AD crystals
the ones in the shmup segment of rtdl
are those starries
more like a broken clock is still right twice a day lmao
I mean also brings up the question of Team Meteor's relation (as they also look similar)
do have to gather things for them...
that brings up the question of any large bluish crystal in the series maybe
oh true
that too
also
like
are the crystalized enemies inherently malevolant
Now I’m thinking… Galacta Knight Is The Dad And Morpho Knight Is The Mom Of Kirby
if the crystals themselves are extensions of the starries
fiendish yaoi
is it inherently evil or just a negative effect that was unintended
probably? if they are they might've got influenced by the meteor
either that or the power is overwhelming or something
we do know Fleurina seems to have more than crystal influence at least
i think it could swing either way
if the crystals that broke off are starries
or were starries
same with frosty
wait frosty and fleurina were purple-reddish
OUH
just like the heart meteor
ah true possibly him too
though Fleurina is more obvious
also even if they aren't in the game, i feel like this starry reveal, even if the meteor had nothing to do with either
may also explain GK's prison and The Jamba Heart
also lore relevance != appearance
if that was true no character would be on hiatus ever again lol
also have pic from the side, and normal version for comparison
i didn't say anything since
i didn't know what to say cross is an extremely basic word especially in a game about interstellar travel lol
Goth
but also yeah lol
states that they travel through time and space...
i feel as thought it would be both imo
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I wonder who's stronger the Crystal enemies or the Forgo-Infected enemies
wait
yall are still forgetting how their lore works
void was sealed into a jamba heart, but jamba hearts exist separately from that one context
corrupt hyness and stuff
high quality version of the lost starries figure too
More Beast Pack descriptions!!!
like Crystal enemies seem more tanky from what I have seen
note that the awoofy is stated to not be effected mentally
also are inhale resistant
and how it's "business as usual" for him
this absolutely confirms SCW takes place at the same time as Story Mode
dunno about that
esp since the jamba heart explodes and no starries come off
as Beast Pack should be peaceful with Kirby and friends after defeating Elfilis
they could be connected but 1-1 outright doesn't make sense
it odes really imply one way or the other
They’re still described as victims though so I doubt they’re in too much control of themselves lmao
it says they fell victim to it
YAYYYY MORE
guess that's first dupe
Awoofy lore

wouldnt say confirmed but it does imply
I mean, the Beast Pack themselves weren't under mind-control
It was only Leon, and everyone else was just following orders
yeah I wouldn't say this confirms anything
Pretty
keep in mind, you can still do this after the game is completed so uh
fair enough
i love ad stuff randomly correlating things to time trvel out of pocket <3
never change lol
also Napping Beast still calls them Beast Pack (despite being a figure you can only get post-game) and says they're usually feral anyway
どうもう = 獰猛 (ferocious, fierce, truculent, savage)
they are still animals
yeah
the crystals seem to have gotten contaminated yeah
i think less so contaminated but they are not under the starries control
since they are all sealed away
fragments of a great evil raining from the sky to corrupt people with their evil?
we're back
so it comes off more as htey are "out of control"
and it looks like the entity is using it to form its own minions
yeah this is my current guess
especially since you know they're probably bringing starries back
The starries can time travel?????
i guess
I wonder what’s inside that evil meteor
im unsure of why the meteor is evil
Also if the island is the new hub damn we’re really just gonna set up base next to the apocalypse rock
text rn seems to imply the meteor is the evil entity
it seems to be responsible for the crystal guardian minibosses
and is the antagonist
The meteor might be sentient
it also is just chilling on the volcano island
Yeah why ain’t it doing anything
either it's got dark energy stuff or is straight-up sentient yeah
Knowing Kirby it must be sentient
Now are the Starries the straight up children of the twinkling planet or are they from the planet
Wouldn’t it be crazy if the planet just shows up at the end of the game
sounds like former but maybe both??
3 new figures in one day dude
though could also just be latter and weird wording
Just like imagine the planet pulls up looking like Ego from Marvel
could get more, if more people upload videos
and haven't gotten much on JP side yet
idk if there could be anything else in the demo that could even have a figure
except like, the differently colored starry coins
but those might be gacha exclusive
Just realized we might get a Luma sacrifice scene with the Starries given they’re supposed to seal the meteor
maybe a figure of the crystal meteor itself??
but that might be saved for another volume entirely
Probably
or the small starryflower i guess
It's def some new lore and not Galacta or anything but I don't mind that
crystal kabu
Genuinely curious as to why the meteor isn’t doing anything
the spring for spring mouth
Unless it’s weakened
i don't see any of these having descriptions though
in the trailer i did see a glimpse of the meteor getting put back together
oh wow i never realized that elfilis' meteors are just debris but that maskes so much sense
ooh looks like they decided to translate 'native beast' this time as indigenous animal
literally unplayable
but yeah it's always been ambig if gk is particularly evil
much less DISTINCTLY evil
i do wonder if we're going to be going deeper into the funny space area where all these portal debris are coming from
yes, Starry Coins, any other enemy variants, small Starryflower
...maybe astronomer Dee if it's entire set but I doubt
(and keep in mind there's new base game-themed ones too but obviously no telling if there's more here)
we're 100% either fighting that meteor or an offscreen antagonist is absorbing it
oh yeah also the Spring itself lol
i think they probably limited the figures to only the stuff in the stage similar to the original game's demo
unfortunately no scottish dee lore yet 😔
also maybe freed Starries
oh right they could definitely have just regular starry
note there was also some landscape-type ones in base game but not sure there's anything notable enough for that yet (other than maybe some crystal one)
oh yeah kinda poetic
oh true the horns aren't natural
so that makes it seem like heart covered with crystal, and we break it down to its finer materials
i want to eat the starries
the fact the meteor looks like a heart naturally, im bullshitting but maybe that's convergent evolution with the jamba heart
does make me wonder if we're going to meet some heart corrupted starrys
YO I KNEW IT
main story: "beast pack is evil because leon is evil because forgo is evil"
forgo dreams: "beast pack is evil because they're memories of forgo who is evil"
star-crossed world: "beast pack is evil because crystal meteor is evil"
can beast corruption count as beast infection from the other end of the spectrum lol
beast virus
im assuming the first sentence might be in all of them
funny how generic awoofy's description is it's not even mentioned by name at any point lol
they really just the grunt huh
why don't the starries time travel before any of this happens /j
it could be slowly awakening as time goes on and kirby has to stop it again before it streads its range
this truly is a forgotten land of all time
so what's the lore so far
They're going back in time to the first meteor to get evil OFF the menu
that's right!
Now's your chance to be a great BIG shot!
New figurine descriptions were found, check pinned messages
yeah, see the trailers and stuff too
not too much else besides that
Still got like 3 months
yeah, probably will get another trailer and detailed official site soon enough
maybe in a month or so
https://fxtwitter.com/Amethyst4041/status/1916641219557445839 okay this one got me
Galacta Knight is back??
Quoting Depths of WiKirby (@DepthsOfWiKirby)
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Wonder what the explanation would be lol. Morpho knight dying = releasing galacta knight (even though we defeated him in SA)? Or some timeline/AD shenanigans... idk lol
Those cunty ass nails omg
yass bitch slay
They’re my king 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
Literally huggable design
His torso isn't even solid idk if you could hug him </3
One of my favorite character (they don’t exist)
who does the jp fandom think it's gonna be... Are they on the gk train too
Yes
AYY let's go
going to be fucked up if the starries are the reason galacta knight is untied to the timeline
you'll actually get another new knight that's related to gk, but not him 
the knight bloat will continue until morale improves
Sis knight at long last
think final boss will be original, and physically GK will show up in Cup at most
4 heroes of you're
My crack theory is that instead of fighting against GK, we will fight with him, maybe against the final boss. Why? Haven't got a clue
This would be heat
in 2035
what do you think he is, some kinda "aeon hero"???
how do you pronounce KatFLNS2E+SCW
To make LIGHT of a DARK situation... You need power of GALACTIC proportions... perhaps from a KNIGHT?
HAHAHAHAHA
I think it's probably going to be like FL was with the ancients
You'll see something connected to them but they themselves with be barely related to the plot
wait i’m late. GK theory might be legit? this is so cool
not gonna get my hopes up but.…

doesn't sound like he'll be final boss still, but possible connections (and perhaps fight in Cup)
would at least love a non-canon GK fight yeah
why would it be non-canon
Well i mean like
yknow. noncanon in the way the other GK fights are. but if they do that and worm it into the story like they did the other ATFL cups that would be so cool
and considering another dimension shenanigans, it would be very easy to make reason for the Cup
as well as the Meteors
There's a real possibility Forgotten Land becomes my #1 Kirby game after DLC. It better be considering it is the most expensive Kirby experience out there.
RtDL DX and SA already have a lot, not sure they can top that here
but FL is very different type of game in general lol
consider all three equals in different ways
Getting to outshine RTDX will be very difficult but feasible
Forgotten Land is already many times better than Star Allies but much weaker on replayability, multiplayer and playable characters.
I hope SCW gives Forgotten Land some kind of richer endgame replayability other than farming Rare Stones in the UCZ
just have them add a speedrun mode
2D vs 3D alone is a lot lol
then there's multiplayer-focus vs single-player focus
and lots of abilities (and Friend Abilities, Helpers, Dream Friends) with detailed movesets vs pretty limited amount with limited moves and evos (plus Mouthfuls)
i like how banana dee fans dont have the guts to ask for him to get a sidemode in this dlc this time
I'm still waiting for the Bandana Dee postgame.
bandee hasn’t even been MENTIONED regarding the dlc i dont think 💔
don't think they'll do that here considering the content already but they could
just damn
he was used in Treehouse
Treehouse footage shows co-op play
yeah anythings possible technically
well yeah. I assumed there would be multiplayer. Duh
but like other than him just appearing as P2, nothing
us bandee fans are used to eating leftovers
real question would be if it's more simple on the lines of SqSq or just a standard other character one
(but my guess is if they decided to do one here it'd be inbetween)
yeah. 
Considering all the Galacta clues...could Meta Knightmare 3D happen
doubt that
especially with MK Sword already existing
and still haven't got MK beating up Gorimondo simulator smh
im hoping it be another character one
if galacta is really comin back then im hoping he becomes redeemed tbh. then we can have him show up in every game as a friend or a cameo
nah, he should suffer forever bc it's funny

had
had a thought
but
The starries have kind of the same antler wings as elfilis
welp back to the crystal seal
that is kinda sus
thats what im saying
also the fricken heart crystal in the trailer looks like the jamba heart
what is up with that
no clue, my brain is saying its another void termina but i also feel like thats to obvious for HAL to do
yeah. still expecting its a new entity with vague connections to it
similar, but not really same
worth mentioning the crystals (that are related to Starries) also have the antlers
and new midboss-like enemy gets crystal horns similar to it too
lmao did they add a 5th finger to elfilis' hand last minute
It kinda looks like it was originally designed and modeled with 4 fingers and they decided to stick another one on
Can't wait to Mouthful Mode the Dragoon and have air-to-air combat against the meteor after successfully preventing the detonation
Gonna predict this rn, the starries are most likely going to try and seal the evil meteor again only for it to push them all away and transform into the final boss
I know this is kinda weird but I hope the SCW final boss is even worse to look at than Forgo's "chimera" form
I want it to be a vile disgusting freak of nature
And then they all gather around kirby giving hima boost
crystal headgear, crystal wings, a crystal GUN
Star Crossed Kirby >:)
REAL
Wait I was just looking at the wikirby figure page and do we not have translations for the JP figure descriptions we've seen?
Even though we don't have english versions crystal tortuilding and wanya wanya max warp star figures there's no translation of the JP ones up there, has anyone done a translation and posted it anywhere here perhaps?
God I'd give all of the JP descriptions we've seen to get either of the starry JP ones instead tbh
Valid
Pretty sure this was talked in Wikirby server when it first revealed
still can't get over the time travel thing
Thanks for reminding me I need to fix something in the Nintendo Today page
Its a funny thing to note because for some reason nowhere in Forgotten Land did they ever mention that Elfilis could travel through time even though he's obviously using AD powers
Then the guidebook eventually did mention that he can travel time
But it always stood out to me b/c it feels like they've always mentioned that AD transcends time since like 3DX onwards
i think the thing that feels really weird is that if they're mentioning in-game its going to be relevant for once?
But now with the DLC we're finally getting mentions that that things travel space and time like before
like the story is going to feature bono fide time travel in it somewhere instead of it just being "this character comes from outside time"
Yea I assume with Elfilis its like 'yea technically he can but it does not in fact have any relevance at all to his story'
Lowkey I thought you already did it lol
I thought you already did the translations but I guess I was wrong
It definitely could, but it could also just be a GK/HR-D3 desc moment
like i guess technically the figurine implies that the meteor was transported from the past into the future??
or maybe the reverse i can't tell
or at least transported into another dimension to be outside of time
Nah I just updated my base-game translations recently
I was thinking about starting an SCW figure translation doc but like
Idk how long it'll even take for us to get all the figures in the demo in JP
Which isn't a lot anyway
Probably never, unless people decide to take video or pic of experience, which not many people in Japan is doing
Would have to wait for… the release
My only contribution I made was mentioning references in Wanya Wanya Max Warp Star 😔
If I finish both of my FL novel translation, maybe I’ll do the figures as well
Waiting til release...
I can't wait that long I will NOT be around to translate descriptions I will be bleeding out from finally having any modicum of Kirby content again for the first time in like 2 years
The painful part will be having to translate based off images/videos since we won't be able to datamine switch 2 games that early unless a miracle happens pls pls pls pls pls
It seems like looking at the people, and my friends that went to Switch 2 experiences…
They weren’t able to play SCW
Because the ticket sold out immediately
time crash
I will simply die I will not wake back up
skill issue
Alright so I also checked
UNLESS its special invitation by Nintendo, such as press or officials, Japanese Switch 2 testing DID NOT allow recording or picture taking inside the booth
Skill issue, simply memorize every word exactly and reproduce the descriptions smh smh
They were able to take picture of some stuff but they weren’t not allowed to record or take picture of the monitors of the gameplay
Which means no Kirby stuff
I guess if they really want to put in the effort, they could just write down the japanese descriptions for the figurines on a notebook or something
Some people seemed to be stopped mid gameplay if they were found recording the video
But I dunno if Kirby was also no pic allowed, or people just didn’t take videos
Because spoiler stuff is very big in Japanese community, so it’s rare to post these types of stuff online
(People mentioned games like Zelda and MKW was no pic/recording allowed, so I would assume Kirby was also one of them, though I saw someone uploading a picture of them playing SCW but from far away)
Cause like I was one of the first person to upload a full video of Roche Limit remix from Kirby Cafe online, otherwise people only posted bits of them, and tell others to go check out their own (even tho I kinda only posted in this and Wikirby server)
with part of the plot being accidentally revealed I wonder how much of it really ties in with the New World in particular beyond still being the main setting in this case (where you go through remixed levels thanks to crystal meteorites)

I feel like the starries have huge dream friend potential
Maybe one of them could become the Bandee of their own kind
that would be cute albeit very unlikely
Unfortunately true....
The first crystal-themed adventure we went through, at first we started having to deal with crystals at "home"
Then we had to traverse through "stars" for more
maybe we'll go further underground
So the Starries having an association with time travel makes me hope that Galacta Knight appears as a boss in the new Cup even more
It'd be really cool but ig another possibility is that we'll get this goober
hey buddy, what's your lore like?
Lore
my reaction when The Ultimate Cup EX replaces Morpho Knight with Chaos Forgo (the merger of beast souls, starries, and chemical x)
Imagine if the time travel became relevant in the final boss fight and you get a glimpse of the New World in its prime like with Halcandra in Epilogue
that...
Star-Crossed World in 1998
Please stop teasing us
他にも…?
STOPPPPPP “and more…?” OKAYYYYY
Anyways jokes aside nothing super new
Go to bed it's a school night 🛏️
I’m on summer break 
Oh right... Smh!
I wonder what the other new mouthful mode will be…
Black hole mouthful
(How would he even do it?)
Hypernova reference
Real
Maybe a potential new Elfilis fight? (Though I doubt it's gonna happen)
Doubt it
Probably for the new Cup
Defeated it
Ok so that heart is def evil
still say it'd something like a Crystal Elfilin fight instead
Who says the new cup has to end with an elfilis fight
It could be more like meta knight cup
this too, very much depends on how things are structured
for sure they'll save something special at the end as pure usual
We don’t even know if there’ll be any new main bosses (outside the final boss) so Idk how probable it is we’ll even get a new cup
oh my god it does
that looks so weird from another angle
I assume they have just not shown this stuff yet
Pretty normal this stays under wraps fir awhile
Cause we are basically at a tease stage rn
Know the basic premise and that's it
That and whatever figurine descriptions we can get our hands on
Even then they don't rwally spell out what we couldn't have inferred
||unless a Magolor Epilogue situation happens again where Crystal Sillydillo is shown to be fighting Kirby in Yomidaria on the back of the physical box||

no new bosses would be very odd
I does have to have a final boss at least I think
I'm just super excited to play FL in 60fps
Low-key SCW isn't really a selling point for me
I hope the story isn't shoe horned into FL main story really
It would just add clutter to a pretty straight forward story and sequence of events
"This is the tale of a different world in a different time."
That doesn't bug me too much cause you can infer its just taking place after mago epilogue
I ignore magoland in the bg
That shits dumb lol
Magoland in BG is simply Magolor traveling back in time in 2011
The only logical way to explain it
I think they just did it as a neat visual nod
Yeah this
But in the story yea that shouldn't be there
Maybe they forgot about the exact lore
Thing about FL is that it's got such strong pacing
I think trying to put SCW in the middle of it will disrupt it
the final boss is a stage 
Master Fortress
And I'm inclined to belive it's post game since the levels look harder then forgo dreams even
moreso Energy Sphere/Mast distortions
especially considering the stuff with Grand Doomer
At worst I assume it's set up where you can do it whenever
Since a lot of people will prolly just boot up an old save to play it
treasure roads: 
but yeah I agree
it would make FL's pacing even worse
I do wonder personally if it will be like
after story mode or after forgo dreams
forgo dreams is a different map so it can work but story wise I just find it hilarious kirby would have to deal with two different crisis at the same time
considering epilogue and HiAD both unlock after story mode, I would guess it would be like this here
yeah
elfilin dies at the end and doesn’t come back
Kirby casually saving all the Starries while leaving the Waddle Dees to do labor in a run down lab just to please a big lonely + no friends 🐀:
if anything can they add the rest of the beast pack to waddle dee town
I want to talk to sillydillo
oh yeah also I mentioned treasure roads
will they add more to the new mouthful modes I wonder
Merry Magoland had certain bosses show up after defeating them in the main story
maybe they can do something similar?
If anything treasure roads serve to break up the pacing well since they are optional and can be done whenever the player feels like it
And I think the faster load times on switch 2 will make going in and out more seamless
we don't know how many new mouthful modes there will be
Even though they were pretty fast before
at least two
that goes for all NX Kirby games
I think it will be 4 new mouthfulls
base game had 1 or 2 Treasure Roads for each one (along with the one with bunch of them), so that's 2 to 4 already
I also bet that scrapped plane one will be one of them
what if you use the plane to kill the meteor in a shoot out
Honestly
here’s a somewhat stupid idea:
Game didn't have a shooter boss fights
new forgo dreams stage after you finish star crossed world
ends with a room made of blocks to spell out ELFILIN

you have waked up
Child could just refer to their age or demeanor
Not nessesarily that they need to have a mother
the translations feel closer to japanese, and in japanese they also called elfilin and the waddle dees children/kids
so yeah it's likely just that
wording with the 'of the' part feels weird, but we'll just have to wait and see what it is in JP
what if
I think that's just an evil contaminated egg creature
nah that is not an egg that is a BEAN
🫘
so many people responding to this tweet saying "omg they're gonna make galacta knight canon"
like
i thought at least most people knew super kirby clash was canon now because of magolor epilogue
and i think it should be more common knowledge that meta knightmare ultra literally takes place after the other super star modes and isn't just some alternate timeline
that barely counts tho
also the stuff in here makes him less likely to show up in main story at least lol
(like yes he can appear in the Cup, but that's still just speculation with nothing too for or against it rn)
how
okay what the hell is this take
can we admit we kinda agree with them
well we know he isn't the main villain (which seems to be final boss), and probably wasn't involved in the sealing
I think they confused themselves with the Zelda devs
ah i see now
would be lame is hes just a passing note ngl
most they could do is a non-final boss appearance (like some assist) to parallel four heroes Jamba Heart stuff but not sure how it'd work
I guess you could maybe bullshit he's in the meteor but I doubt
especially since meteor itself is the evil thing and core seems to be more red (seems more round too but hard to tell), unless it was just another core around it
THAT REMINDS ME, K ROOL WATCH IS REAL
but anyway, my bet is still on
there will be connections, but if he appears it'll likely just be in Cup
Also canon aeon hero is real already, but 3d aeon hero is not real
yeah i mostly want galacta knight appear just because a 3d galacta knight fight would be sick
Tbf Forgo Dreams isn't really an active crisis
funny thing is, without major modifications GK'd probably be really similar to Elfilis with more usual Knight elements too
What if they brought back his galacta-knights
GO MY GALACTALINGS
funnily enough in a way I can see what they mean but weird way to word it
like yes I think the fandom overhypes the lore but it's not like the devs don't care either
yeah its the opposite !!
like you got slashing stuff (including downward thrust), tornados for Chaos, multiple types of lasers, flying rushes, spectral spear projectile stuff (Orbital Pulsar), etc.
the overarching story isn't a mess, it just has some blank spaces
....which I guess adds to him being more likely as a Cup boss lol
i just think it's weird they say hal is "causing the overarching story between games to be a fucking mess"
like. there isn't even an overarching story
even if they mean the whole ancients stuff I don't think it's a mess lol
he'd be close to equivalent despite not being related
some things are unclear, but that's also part of the fun
TDX is one where they put lot of thought into to
To be fair, it has been years since k rool had a significant role in a dk game
I have seen some takes that are against leaving things a mystery, because for them it shows that "HAL has no idea what they want their story to me"
and as a writer... literally no? like anyone who has written a story with any mystery has at least once made the decision to keep certain things a mystery because if you explain too much you also take away the fun of the people experiencing your story
(it's just rest of Mirror World stuff was already a mess/obscure anyway)
k rool? what lol
King A. Eon
We already have king d mind
they made galacta connected to all sorts of things like the ancients and jamba and whatever over the years but never follow up on things 😭 starries are next to be connected to him and he prob wont even show up in the game. wasted character fr
sometimes you know the answer to a mystery but you keep it a mystery because it's more fun
sometimes you don't know the answer because you feel it's not important or that it would be cool for people to make their own answers
really I think some people just don't understand the basics of storytelling
random writer rant over
I lied one more thing
oh yeah also RtDL DX is the peak of this stuff
literally almost all the content was based on connecting past stuff (usually with Magolor)
and showing things that were said in the past ingame
the reveal of a mystery is very important
so yes there is also the chance kumazaki has an overarching plan to, idk, reveal some stuff he has hinted in the past as mysteries
instead of just doing boring long exposition he may be doing a "show don't tell". so since games take a while to develop, that stuff takes time
once again FL had some reveals about what is (most likely) the ancients (or related to them) which imo would had been way more boring if it was been revealed in text via RtDL like "ah yes the ancients come from this place called the new world!"
anyway now I'm really over
Epilogue moment
ending with Clash moment
theme parks in various worlds moment (Magoland)
there's also him supposingly having more Drawcia stuff planned to some extent since the start
yeah
kirby lore is like a big puzzle with no correct answer
LET KUMA COOK
EXCEPT ONLY I'M RIGHT AND YOU'RE WRONG!!!
most kirby lore discussions on social media in a nutshell
You are such a gift to the world kumazaki 
ah right they have crescent shots too (for Chaos)
and Kuiper Belt Wave is also like Rising Spine in a way
Somehow i prefer when franchises like kirby uses mystery this way
Its not frustrating
Unlike a certwin indie franchise with a bear....
my only peeves is with obscure stuff sometimes and like, some Mirror World stuff
and localization being fucky a bit of the time, of course
yeah
mind you there is some intentional changes
but lot of inconsistencies and straight-up mistranslations too
hell we're already seeing the inconsistency part with SCW I guess
Wonderia...
you know I knew Starry face mark was sort of similar to Lor Mast but I didn't realize Lor also had four-pointed star mark too lmao
just is more in the back instead
Random thought but I wonder if they'll fix the letter spacing on Elfilis's boss title
Fecto Elfi lis
doubt but maybe lol
Will they fix Morpho Knight's bird title 
that one probably
will note it's in some other languages too
The game will finally be playable once they fix that /j
get ready for
Chaos Elfi lis
:)
Its what now
In JP they accidentally wrote his title with the bird kanji instead of the butterfly kanji
yeah, has been officially clarified to be an error
and is inconsistent with stuff like the figure either way

I feel bad for the 5 people that made theories based on the word
And found out they were actual typo

you know
i don't believe this myself
but for the sake of the joke
i see people saying it can't be sectonia everything with her was wrapped up
and i'm like
mirror sectonia 
No...taranza already went to therapy off screen dont ruin him loke this 
Are you guys excited when they reveal that the twinkling planet the Starries are from is ancient Popstar
If morpho ex shows up I will become allied mastercomputer
actually it's parallel Popstar
aka Popstar but blue
Isn’t this so it can turn into a bowsers inside story reference during the lor star cutter fight
What if Popstar is the Starries' mother
Lowk tho it gotta be Popstar right
Especially in Japanese where it'd probably read as
"Twinkling star" with the double meaning of hoshi
don't mean this fully seriously btw but either way for planet I suspect terrain will be like this at least
That's also fair
either きらきら or きらめき (煌めき) probably
Yea
always a chance they could do ティンクル though lol
Trutru
Is the final boss just gonna be a big meteor lol
/j
Hi guys any new sneak peaks today 
The giant meteor is none other than Twinkle Popo
none yet
Twinkle Popo
The Cosmic Crasher
Aw ):
I would die of peak if this were to actually happen
Fan service 100
Star Slam Heroes lore expanded upon? 👀
Ok guys just had an idea that would absolutely destroy everything
Kirby will mouthful mode a comically colossal baseball bat to swing a home run
Watch
Ok so this is the Forgotten Lands, a city abandoned by its peoples and now reclaimed by neature
This is literally hive mind moment, I was thinking of same exact thing last night
SCW has this thing where four pointed stars are HEAVILY prominent
Now consider this: What's the connection between an abandoned world and a 4 pointed star?
Galacta Knight
[LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER]
Now consider this: What's the connection between an abandoned world and a 4 pointed star?
That's right
Yes, SCW is actually about Monkeys
Apes
Now, what sort of being to do with monkeys is also something that can be considered a great evil?
Kirby Bananza
Exactly
Have some decency
The crystals are unrelated they're just a cool aesthetic sorry guys
What about the Crystal Coconut?
Isn't this just what some Japanese fans think Void Termina is
lmao yeah
Pfft
You ride on Galacta Knight's back to fight the TRUE evil 
Final boss is a Flotzo confirmed /j
LMFAO
Oppa Giganto Style
Kirby when he lands on parallel popstar and it retries him back to DL1
Possible new lore? https://x.com/KirbyInformer/status/1916759315345817808
In the original FL demo, were all the volume 1 figurines (sans the SPECIAL ones) obtainable?
no
Not all of them
a bunch of volume 1 figures are postgame only
There were only like
10-20 available figures in the demo I think
Lemme check
It had 19 figures
[Upon checking Wikirby]
What do you mean the 1 star figurines are machine-exclusives??????
Why do I only know of this now?
because the capsules items are guaranteed to give you a two or better
that's how it works
Kirby, Elfilin, Bandana Waddle Dee, Waddle Dee, Sword, Bomb, Cutter, Car-Mouth Kirby, Cone-Mouth Kirby, Dome-Mouth Kirby, Captured Waddle Dee, Captured Waddle Dees, Awoofy, Buffahorn, Tortorner, Tortuilding, Car-Shop Sign, Lightron Works Sign, Maxim Tomato were in the FL demo
...and if Wikirby isn't messing up, only just the 1 star figurines in Volume 1???
aren't the majority of 1 star figurines in volume 1
if I'm counting right, Vol. 1 has 11, Vol. 2 has 20, Vol. 3 has 17
so it's second least
Imagine though if the final level was a 3-D version of Green Greens...
Sonic Adventure 2 style
huh/
Found another video that has Star-Crossed World, and they were hyped, but they hardly showed anything, much less figures 😭😭
Guys...
Everywhere I go....
Hey uh
"Evil thing falling to planet" is something that happened to the Devil from the Bible and we basically fought the tree of the knowledge of good and evil in magologue so uhhhhh... yeahp
Can you imagine if evil thing falling to planet happened in Kirby? For an nth time???
Imagine if they put Popstar in peril, despite it not even showing up other than the intro cutscene, for the second time
do you think there will be new credits tied to Star-Crossed World?
End credits? Most likely yes if there's an actual new final boss
get ready because you'll cry when Jun Ishikawa isn't there 
there's more
n....n-z....
Best Dark Matter creature
they carry a virus
beast virus
cat virus
Oh
"hey how do you we start this modern kirby game plot"
"make something randomly appear from the sky"
i mean
the franchise name is Kirby of the Stars
its always about the stars (the skies)
another sky
The sky had a baby
ugh man they have run out of ideas! I didn't find a good pic of dimension mirror at the beginning of AM but it's in the sky too lol
true
😭
The sky is the real final boss but we just don't know it 
G-glup!
Why did they change Kracko's design like that anyway?
Like for a few years his spikes were multicoloured instead of gold
Except this only applied to his models
All of the art of him released during that period just gave him the gold spikes
To my knowledge of course
I like the multi colored spikes
they stayed for his SA appearance so perhaps this is how Kracko is now
Krackos design changed
?
His spikes
Starting with Triple Deluxe I believe, they changed his spikes from gold to multicoloured
they did
Because he evolved
Hopefully they bring back kracko dx or krackos revenge
There are a ton of krackos and whispys
they did twice for the latter
I like how with whispy, its alternate trees
But with kracko, its literally just him with the exception of like 3
Out of about 7
And we know how kracko gets when it comes to fakers
or a stone golem
Yeah and stone golems
don't forget all the other smaller trees
The ones from 64 or mass attack?
THEY ARE DOING IT LIKE FIGHTERS 2
in short: expansion pass page only in the american site mentions portuguese, base game and european websites (and I assume japanese) also don't mention portuguese
oh wtf
but terms don't look localized...
unless something changed since I last checked
although I can't find that mention on here https://www.nintendo.com/pt-br/store/products/kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-nintendo-switch-2-edition-plus-star-crossed-world-upgrade-pack-switch-2/
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/nintendo-switch-2-kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-nintendo-switch-2-edition-star-crossed-world-121526/ seems to only be on physical page (this is US one)
weird thing is, this only mentions these four
if this is accurate, are there no other languages on the cart??
I will assume this is a mistake for now, in particular due to this
Beast Pack also isn't localized at all
yeah
found another bunch of star-crossed world footage that unfortunately doesn't have figures
according to them forgotten land had consistently the busiest crowd though lol
and a nintendo employee said they had the highest coin score of the day
GOOD
hey wait a minute this mission symbol for not getting hit by the "big crystal turtle" is different

oh yeah I saw another one earlier that got another Big Starryflower and Crystal Wild Frosty one
so seems like not many new ones left to get (for English)
i think thats because they didnt get the starry for that!
did anyone point this out before i don't remember seeing this
that means uncleared
mhm
oh damn
thats the crystal theyre trapped in
seen it since the first demo before anyone knew what it meant lol
ooh right
dont worry i thouight the same HEHAHEHA
or moreso the first Switch 2 Experience
@shrewd oracle why is our reality like this instead
People know whats peak
Gaming priorities in check
Kirby fans rise up 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
It's also one of the only 2 NS2E games that do more than textures and FPS improvements
Although with Mario Party apparently you need some peripherals to make the most out of the new content... so SCW is more noteworthy in this regard
HOLY SHIT
They waited and waited and then dropped the album right before the DLC 
Can't wait for the nintendo music release to just still not include SCW music
it probably won't (unless after the rest is on there) lol
115 / 23 = 5
so unless they do uneven waves or SCW happens to have like exactly 23, 46, etc. tracks
(but obviously there's also the possibility they don't include some Soundtrack songs and well who knows)
where was it
I've touched the next generation of Nintendo with my own hands!
I attended the Nintendo Switch 2 Experience in Dallas, TX, USA. An event like this is a dream come true. Thank you to Nintendo for setting this up for the fans.
In this video, I offer my early impressions of Nintendo Switch 2, Mario Kart World, Donkey Kong Bananza, Metroid Prime 4...
I could've gone if I wanted to
But it's a few hours away 😦
WHY CANT I DO ANYTHING COOL 
there wasn't any switch 2 experience in my country lol
I could have gone to NY but I only git a single invite
I didn't realize there was a multiperson option so I would have had to go alone
Didn't feel like it
Kinda wish I did anyways
exactly why
wtf man lol
oh sorry
sorry for using this image i just think it's really funny
me when I forget people here don't talk portuguese
so,
then someone random person on twitter tagged bowser asking if it's true that FL will be in portuguese
he answered (in portuguese) "of course!"
epic
I am not 100% believing just yet mostly because this is a bit weird to announce like this LOL
but if true a welcome news
means I have a better excuse to replay FL in full on switch 2
~~he confused with air riders
~~
if true they better rename forgo dedede from the RtDLD mask name or else 😭
@toxic delta lol!

huh
why isn't it on any other eShop pages then
and why does package version only list the American four
yeah I have no clue what is going on LOL
Hey gigi
Fl was just confirmed to get a portuguese yranslation
there is a chance doug bowser got confused
yeah that's literally what we're talking about lol
that is why I am not 100% buying it just yet
but there is a possibility maybe this is a last minute addition
or maybe they originally just copied the languages from base FL and hadn't updated yet
curious, do the zelda games list portuguese?
Yes
because BoTW and ToTK are also set to get portuguese
I mean in the japanese site
UNSETTLED DEDEDE 😭
yeah idk what they were cooking with that name LOL
I hope some names get retconned because they were made with little context
wait it's doing maintenance???
By the mario party narrator
if they actually dub it
same for Korean and Hong Kong's
same brain lol
maintenance to add portuguese...
@amber tinsel help I am going crazy doug bowser said forgotten land will get portuguese (idk yet if just switch 2 edition but still wtf??????????)
Zelda also adds it to switch 1
oh apparently American too but you can still view things on site
MAINTENANCE TO ADD PORTUGUESE LET'S GO
I think it's just a more general eShop maintenace....
nah clearly they had to take down everything to add portuguese
probably Virutal Card related, those still haven't been added yet
I jest in part but maybe they could be also updating that among other things lol
ah I see they just did System Update for it
Gameshare too (but obviously you can't use it yet)
oh cool
???? lmao
OKNDOUG???
LETS GO???
what happened there
I know fighters 2 had it listed as well at some point (having portuguese)
(S)HE (BE)LIE(VE)D
Same thing
lol!
https://fxtwitter.com/PortalKirbyBR/status/1917376642730635694
And it was an error
source?
We'll have to wait for the forgotten land remake in 2035 💔
Wow. Bowser was lying?
Bowser was Magolor
The King of the Koopas would never do something like that
Arthur taught me many great lessons growing up, and this one was the most important by far. From episode Buster the Myth Maker, Arthur PBS.
Did he ever do that before?
besides i guess saying the prices in latam would be accessible. Or was that someone else
don't worry nobody knows who Doug Bowser is
There will be no Switch 2 news at my daughter's wedding.
Classic bowser
true!

magolor should be in this dlc tbh
was always a tragedy that he was snubbed from the original game
MAGOLOR MENTIONED
reallll
If Magolor shows up, no one will see my body ever again
o h 
I can't believe Doug Bowser just went on the internet and told lies.
Bowser.
just looked at this, holy shit the double meaning for forgo dedede's jp name is amazing
i love that
THEY BETTER RENAME HIM OTHERWISE WE HAVE FULL PERMISSION TO RIOT /j
rip in peace
kirby has a bunch of cool kanji puns, it's insane
This video consists of footage from the Nintendo Switch 2 Experience Event in Dallas! It includes new gameplay of Mario Kart World, Donkey Kong Bananza, Metroid Prime 4 Beyond, Kirby & The Forgotten Land, and MORE!
Feel free to use the footage, just give credit.
Hey that's interesting, I didn't notice before that you're provided abilities at the beginning of the stage
Wonder if that's any indication of the general difficulty and whatnot
Normally it's only for bosses
I mean, is a demo and they probably didn't want to leave you with nothing (especially since this isn't first stage of the entire game or anything)
Oh yeah that is fair
and also since this is supposedly harder than main game anyway
what if a new colosseum cup has morpho knight ex randomly appear again
maybe if it got something else's power offscreen
since SA fight is specifically about it mastering the power it got from GK
IT'S ALREADY GONE
If you set them to other language it doesn’t show up
They only have Japanese right now
Maybe morpho using aeon hero lights form?
and it's so fun
oh hey they finally fixed the languages on US physical page
lmao
https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/nintendo-switch-2-kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-nintendo-switch-2-edition-star-crossed-world-121526/
IDC WHO THE STARRIES' MOTHER IS AS LONG AS SHE EXISTS

I would scream if they came back bruh😭🙏
Mind blowing lore incoming as usual
Mother Popstar
Cosmic Caretaker
A race of winged creatures tasked with utilizing a crystal to protect themselves...
A race that seems to be childlike...
we ourselves will approach the roche limit with popstar and fight the whole planet... for some reason
Wow we got space fairies now
Cosmo and Wanda gonna save Kirby at the end
Cosmo: “Timmy is looking a little pink, don’tcha think?”
Wanda: “That isnt Timmy, you nincompoop! That’s Kirby!”
Cosmo: “Ohhhhhh! Wait, is he gonna eat me?”
Im curious if we could get some new abilities for the dlc
Or atleast new upgrades
It's a possibility that they might but hmmmm
i could see one new evolution
particularly ranger
space ranger kinda fits thematically already though
less so utilizing crystal more so turning into it
I mean that's still utilizing it
they are putting it to use
just less so 'a' and moreso 'crystals in general'
imagine going from storm tornado to hurricane tornado
i suppose :P
"Let us bring back a legendary swordsman from a forgotten time. He may end up destroying a nearby planet or two"
i just realized that forgotten land is gonna be getting substantially more sales soon (depending on how the switch 2 version counts sales, cause it can be bought both standalone and as an upgrade to the original game, it's very weird) so it probably won't be beaten as the most sold kirby game for a long time
Looking at Galacta Knight stuff to see about his connection with his sealed crystal...
if base game goes on more sales I'd especially expect it to go bit higher yeah
(though some people might just buy used copies instead)
though I think after it comes out they'll probably do both on sale at once whenever they do go on sale, eShop-wise
rip
we should count starry crossed worlds dlc as a seperate game tbh
Why
because its consistent with the way fans track the sales of other games
also i feel like we might get a situation where nintendo counts and totals the dlc card and the fl + dlc box as the same which could complicate things
yeah DLC will probably be counted seperate to some extent
Triple deluxe my beloved
DAMN OKAY FORGOTTEN LAND I SEE U
poor robobot though... 
Do you think there will still be lag spikes during Fecto Forgo 
What if Fecto Forgo is the sole reason this game doesn't hit 4K 60fps /s
what if it doesnt lag tho
dang i wish star allies got the same treatment
three mage sisters fight without killing frames....
I honestly dislike the dynamic resolution more than the dynamic framerate in SA
Really hope SA gets an update on S2
thats all im asking rn
updating kirby's model would be nice too
3ds ported model......
don't think they'll change model too much if they do one
but I wouldn't be surprised if they changed some texture stuff
me when KSA gets a NS2 edition in 2027 solely so that they can release it on an actual anniversary date for once
Kirby Star Allies Nintendo Switch 2 Edition + ???
also put in an outline option because this is legitmately the only kirby game that benefits from it
just graphics and performance update really
i feel like star allies already has a lot of content on its own thanks to the free dlcs
maaaaaaybe a level dfesign update but i dsoubt they would go that far for a game that's almost 10 years old
bit of the things they could do with SA would be intrusive/feel out of place so they'll probably just do minor one for it
we know they could because of Fighters 2
add in Elfilin as a new dream friend maybe
as the only major thing to take away from it
no more even harder rematches
nothing higher than soul melter ex
that still conflicts
because of HiAD
since whole purpose of that mode is to give Dream Friends (other than Mages who you unlock from it and are a Master-like anyway) a single player experience
plus it's not like a requirement...
and would therefore be out-of-place
and I doubt they're giving him an unique mode or a Guest Star that goes beyond what Mages has
mind you it should say a lot they thought the Guest Stars weren't good enough in the first place
also you can justify his inclusion because of time and space weirdness!
Honestly if they do add Elfilin to star allies, how we would HAL even handle his guest star mode since most dream friends have unique level designs in their guest star mode based on the game they represent. Since Elfilin would be representing FL, it would be hard for them to come up with a good level design for his guest star since they would have to try and recreate the 3D FL levels in 2D
And reusing the same guest star level design used for the wave 0 dream friends and the normal helpers would be kinda boring
take creative liberties?
yeah that too
at that point, you might as well make whole mode and well
why not spend that time on something else instead
everyone only wants SA to get update for minor things anyway lol
tbf they're making SCW when they could've just released something else
While I would like to be proven wrong by HAL, the chances of them adding Elfilin to star allies is pretty much almost impossible to begin with
I mean this at least doesn't conflict or anything
and is also just pretty original/second extra mode
and even then a Elfilin add on might just be free or like $10 at best
mind you, second extra mode is also something SA and RtDL DX had (and added, SA added it in update, in RtDL DX it's a new thing original didn't have)
I doubt they would give us new content for a game that's about to turn 10 years old in just a few years
FL is understandable since it was only just released like 3 years ago
then RTDLDX in this case would also be out of the picture
I mean RtDL DX is a remake, not DLC to game that already got DLC
also tbh i wouldn't be surprised if like
Star Crossed World's development started after Dream Buffet or something and it was already finished in early 2024 barring localization
yeah, though it makes soundtrack release feel even weirder lol
(but that was already weird to begin with)
i just assume their priorities went to the anime and 30th anniversary concert blu-rays and they didn't want any of them to overshadow the other
yeah but you'd feel like they'd wait with this having new songs


