Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)

[signal garnet]

i guess he never saw any tv screens with f86 on it...
i assume he would've gone "why he look like me"

bro must've immediately gone for the trees

[green crater]

Screw this I'm out

[wise flame]

Like is SCW gonna elaborate on it??

[signal garnet]

hm how would it do that?

oh yeah ig we're going to get more elfilin dialogue

(maybe?
depends?)

BRO ACTUALLY GOT LOBOTOMIZED

if we get to look at constellations i wonder if elfilin would comment on them (maybe not but)

[toxic delta]

that, the new Dee, and/or they just get plain descriptions

[shut pendant]

"why didn't fecto elfilis just say in the air so kirby couldn't hit them, are they stupid?"
"yes. yes they are."

[toxic delta]

not really much to elaborate, we know he just doesn't remember stuff from back then

most they might do more explicit mention ingame

[shut pendant]

i'm still REALLY hoping there's a crystal version of lab discovera

[tacit saffron]

definitely add more

they're willing to change the base adventure somewhat

[toxic delta]

#kirby-kingdom message guess this doesn't really say for stuff after but still is pretty implied

[tulip coral]

ultrby7457#0 - #kirby-kingdom

本人の記憶にはほとんど残っていないが、ID-F86の中に残されていた小さな博愛の心が分離して生まれた存在で、かつて研究者たちには “ID-F87" と呼ばれていた。
("Although he has little to no memory of it, he was born from the separation of a small benevolent heart left in ID-F86, and was once called "ID-F87" by researchers.")
from the guidebook

Attachment

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Quoted by ultrby7457#0 • [183218676760182785] · Feb 5, 2024, 3:34 PM

[signal garnet]

i still love whatever the hell scenario couldve lead to a mini you with your conscience leaves you lol

what experiment

what species

lmao

[broken void]

Being so morally repugnant that your conscience ditches you. Jack horner levels of nastiness

[signal garnet]

i love the idea that it wasn't because of a experoment gone wrong or anything he just thought he was cringe andfucking left

[twin fog]

Its so funny like
"Sir, on February 6th, Fecto Elfilis gave birth"
"What"
"Sir a distinct specimen separated from the main bo-"
"We were doing a warp experiment how the fuck did it split in half"

[broken void]

I am going to
Split up into 2

[signal garnet]

how the fuck did that happen 😭

[vagrant hound]

I am going to
split up into 3

[ocean ingot]

I am going to
split up into 4

[signal garnet]

I am going to
split up into 5

[vagrant hound]

Chaos Elfilis:

[signal garnet]

i lone how yukkuri is so perplexed by genome repairs for some reason lol

[ocean ingot]

Dark Meta Knight:

[signal garnet]

okokkokok

i have a crack theory

[signal garnet]

no i dont lol

[vagrant hound]

I split up faye by 3

[signal garnet]

why

[ocean ingot]

I got a theory about a supposed Crystal Elfilin :)

[signal garnet]

elfilis can create psychic projections, maybe they were trying to do a warp experiment, but accidentally got them to psychic projuect their conscience and reason

[ocean ingot]

Elfilin could get grabbed or stolen by the crystals, akin to just after defeating Fecto Forgo

(Although I don't see them doing this same trope yet again in the same game)

[signal garnet]

to the point it fully separated out into elfilin

that is my rationalization for elfilis splitting off from elfilin not being the most "howtf did that happen" thing ever

[tacit saffron]

pikmin

[odd crane]

Wow that’s my theory as well that’s awesome methinks

Oh wait that was sent yesterday

[silk jewel]

That’s what I’m saying

[vagrant hound]

what is golden freddy doing in here

[signal garnet]

golden freddy

[ocean ingot]

Can't wait for Crystal Armored Cyclops Kirby

[olive coral]

i think it's just dark aeon hero

would be funny if it was tho

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

https://fixvx.com/Ric_buuut/status/1915089023770714593

🧱Ric🧱 (@[email protected])

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH

QRT: Ric_buuut
GANG!!

I HAVE A GAME THEORY https://t.co/urb9O1ABeQ

vxTwitter / fixvx · Apr 23, 2025, 5:02 PM

theory continued

they could just have similar eyes but it's any creatures game

[turbid nexus]

Baby

[random tendon]

are people only now connecting the starries with elfilis lol

[olive coral]

...

maybe

well not just now

maybe a few weeks after the treehouse-

[sudden mirage]

ngl it took me a while for the gears to turn

[toxic delta]

outside here I guess lol

[random tendon]

true

smh

[toxic delta]

yeah I also compared them a few times

[random tendon]

discord when will you let us search per thread

not whole forum

[toxic delta]

#1357065850951041247 message literally day 2 lmao

[tulip coral]

ultrby7457#0 - #Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)

actually they do have Elfilin-esque stubs lol
the antenna things are wing-like, antler-like, and/or equivalent to the ears....
but this would assume they are really baby and that Elfilin and Elfilis still has actual elements of them

Attachment

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Quoted by ultrby7457#0 • [183218676760182785] · Apr 3, 2025, 8:16 PM

[random tendon]

but yeah elfilis is the safest bet too since you know it's from this game

[toxic delta]

but like, either way comparisons are bound to happen when it's FL and Another Dimension stuff again yeah

[grave fractal]

Yeah getting stuff from Elfilis' species here would be cool

[signal garnet]

would you really say greater doomer really looks different from a ase doomer in a way that's worth mentioning

[grave fractal]

When I first read that special page I thought it was hinting at the rampaging doomers from epilogue lol

Or well referencing

Cuz they look a bit different

[toxic delta]

again, original JP isn't the most distinct about it

[toxic delta]

and yes they do look a little different

[signal garnet]

ah gotcha

[olive coral]

real one

[signal garnet]

i honestly gotta respect forgo for coming up with such a complex plan while essentially being chaos

[signal garnet]

HOW DID I NEVER NOTICE THE EYES

[odd crane]

It does look different

[arctic gale]

The starries are baby elfilis's theory shall be real 🙏 🙏 🙏

[olive coral]

mostly cause it was from the treehouse footage and you need a good eye for that lol

[signal garnet]

A good eye

[odd crane]

Eyes?

Like…

Zero…

Zero returns as the villain for SCW?

[signal garnet]

Thr midboss guy has one eye just like 0

[odd crane]

What could this mean for the lore

[obtuse berry]

mecha kracko will return

[vagrant hound]

finally I can add the game to wishlist... ough

[tribal igloo]

It does look like wings-

[shut pendant]

[tribal igloo]

I wanna play the dlc so bad😭

[shut pendant]

same

[tribal igloo]

5 months of waiting 🥀

[fading tartan]

its ok.. itll be worth it

BTW

https://x.com/ric_buuut/status/1914873657710567786?s=46

🧱Ric🧱 (@Ric_buuut) on X

Got a pretty clear shot of the Fallen Star Volcano

do what you will with it

X · Apr 23, 2025, 2:47 AM

clearer pic of the volcano!

[toxic delta]

this is just from the key art

full thing with all the other stuff

the sus flower motif....

[coarse arrow]

You could say its a sus stone

(necrodeus confirmed)

[toxic delta]

oh hey Australian store stuff updated
https://ec.nintendo.com/AU/en/titles/70010000096830
https://ec.nintendo.com/AU/en/aocs/70050000056804

Upgrade Pack vs bundle

[twin fog]

17gb lmfao

[toxic delta]

note it's still an estimate so filesize can still change lol

but this is probably more accurate than JP site

[twin fog]

Why is the DLC 11gb now tho lol

[random tendon]

why is the DLC double the site of base game

[twin fog]

I feel like they made a mistake and 11gb is probably the combined size and 17 is just wrong

[random tendon]

also what

do they mean game chat?

[twin fog]

wise waddle dee /s

[toxic delta]

probably just Wise Waddle Dee yeah

[random tendon]

I almost thought that LOL

but you can play with two players with online on

[toxic delta]

though base FL page doesn't mention it

[random tendon]

odd

they are adding huh

flash fishing 99

does RtDLD also say online is 1 player

because samurai kirby 100

[toxic delta]

no

[random tendon]

ah so I wonder if it's gamechat

still odd

[twin fog]

would that mean gameshare deconfirmed for FL then

[random tendon]

base FL perhaps

~~may be to make people buy the expansion ~~

[toxic delta]

https://store.nintendo.co.uk/en/kirbyand-the-forgotten-land-nintendo-switch-2-edition-star-crossed-world-upgrade-pack-70050000056804 European store also now has page for Upgrade Pack on its own, though size is more similar to what JP said

[twin fog]

lol really feels like the AU branch got the 11gb estimate and thought it was just the upgrade instead of with the base game

[lean grove]

maybe it's just two copies of FL lmfao for the sake of making the physical release compatible with both consoles

a flmao moment perhaps

it's both a NS1 version and a NS2 optimized version on there

[toxic delta]

these are for digital, but they could have mistaked physical one for that yeah lmao

wait no JP page also updated, so 11 GB is probably the currently more accurate one https://store-jp.nintendo.com/item/software/D70050000056655

[twin fog]

oh lmfao

Me when every base game model gets replaced with a higher poly model or some shit

[toxic delta]

Kirby will now be even more round

[twin fog]

lol the entire gfx folder of FL is like 4gb honestly wonder how much base game assets they're upgrading

[toxic delta]

probably a lot lmao

plus we're getting new figures, new enemies, new stages, etc., stuff's gonna start adding up I suppose

even if some is similar to base game things

[twin fog]

Man fuck SCW tbh I wanna see footage of the base game on the switch 2 edition just so we can directly compare how things look

[toxic delta]

the figures are separate models right

[twin fog]

Yea figures are separate models

[vagrant hound]

Sorry movie

*story

[toxic delta]

OH

[random tendon]

WHAT

DOES IT HAVE NEW STUFF

LET ME SEE

[fading tartan]

USUFJFNDNDNDNDJXJZ

[arctic gale]

[random tendon]

45 seconds

if nothing new I will cry

[vagrant hound]

its just a opening lol

[random tendon]

oh full cutscene music at least

[vagrant hound]

is this rtdldx /j

[toxic delta]

this will be best audio we have right

[random tendon]

yes

and it has music we didn't have before

[toxic delta]

oh nice

[random tendon]

they quoted GK's theme at the end omg!!!!!!!!!

||they didn't ||

[toxic delta]

is there any part they cut out of demo/trailer for cutscene itself

[twin fog]

#1357065850951041247 message
What it does have though

[tulip coral]

pikminispeakmin#0 - #Star-Crossed World (and Forgotten Land Switch 2 Edition)

Funny accidental leitmotifs
https://youtu.be/825nZJ0sPj0?t=57
https://youtu.be/2e9_NN3x_eM?t=124

Quoted by pikminispeakmin#0 • [1136114768042799175] · Apr 21, 2025, 5:29 PM

[random tendon]

YOU JOKE BUT

[shut pendant]

shocked babies

[random tendon]

some days ago I was humming the new theme music

and I automatically transitioned to moonstruck blossom

[twin fog]

They will proceed to make 5 more games that suspiciously have Sectonia's leitmotif accidentally

[random tendon]

based

[toxic delta]

me with this deranged unfinished doc comparing TDX and FL (SCW) motif/theming stuff
guys it's Sectonia guys, trust me

[fading tartan]

DONT LIE TO ME.

[turbid nexus]

NOOOOOOOOO I CAN’T LISTEN I’M IN CLASS

I was looking forward to hearing the cutscene theme so much though I’m glad we got the full thing

Also yeah obviously figured they cut most of it out of the demo lol

[reef patrol]

Choir vocals popping off like sheesh calm down it’s the opening cutscene

[twin fog]

On a serious note I am a bit confused by the theme
It sounds strangely unnatural to just be a regular ass track they composed and said 'yea this is good'
It almost feels like its some other theme reversed or something

I wonder if its like some leitmotifs first composed for a final boss theme that they then repurposed for the opening cutscene in a weird sounding way

Like the SKC town theme that was in tree crown that sounds super unnatural in the town theme compared to the tree crown use of it even though the SKC town theme came like 4 years earlier

[torn vapor]

Why is the intro music so fucking ominous at the end

[coarse arrow]

evil heart moment

[toxic delta]

part of me suspects motif will be used for actual lyrical theme at least

[torn vapor]

Like jesus a meteor crashed and no one even seemed to be hurt

Oh yea apparently in the treehouse footage of the intro it got cut out before the island rises

[toxic delta]

I mean, the fragments are crashing into things and crystalizing people

[shut pendant]

uhhhh @twin fog i think your kirby triple deluxe text translations document is missing the narration from the ending cutscene
there is an old 2021 translations document that has it though

[turbid nexus]

I just wonder why its a heart specifically lol
Like it looks like the Jamba Heart but for all we know this could be an unrelated new heart shaped object of certain doom

[twin fog]

OH YEA I noticed that like
a few weeks ago and then forgot again

[vagrant hound]

faye and the forgotten land

[lean grove]

I do wonder which came first
the TKCD town theme or the ordeal boss theme

[shut pendant]

lol

doesn't look like there's any major translation changes though lol

[twin fog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMTiUAak130&t=34s
I actually meant this part which I don't think is in the ordeal theme

[obtuse berry]

All the squishies in the impact site of the crystal died

[twin fog]

https://youtu.be/iQ1vrU0onhA?si=WVev8F6V6syvZuOR&t=136
It got so much sauce in Mistilteinn

[twin fog]

Lived up to their name

[obtuse berry]

Damb, discord delayed the messages I saw here. Was trying to reply to this w/ the previous message

[random tendon]

literal musician in wikirby server saying this lol

~~that's why I think it's shimooka not ando ~~

[tardy mortar]

go back to singing instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5peJd37J-k

[random tendon]

true

[vagrant hound]

LAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[random tendon]

I do think this could be a case of bunch of leitmotifs smashed together

but the thing is that ando is usually a wizard at that

[lean grove]

music being all over the place would not be new tbh I think ando kinda tries to shove leitmotifs everywhere at times

like Partners that Shook the Heavens is uh

basically a really forced attempt to use as many Meta Knight leitmotifs as possible

but personally my theory is that the original theme composition was done by someone else like probably shimooka or ogawasara or maybe even Ikegemi if it's going to be vocal again, that's why it sounds so awkward in when made to be timed to a cutscene

[acoustic sage]

Is it just me or does it feel like the cutscene doesn't have a proper start?

Like it's missing some kind of establishing shot

[toxic delta]

tbf we don't know when it takes place, could just start on world map

[lean grove]

honestly I just assume once you load into the world map for the first time after beating the game and having the dlc is enough context for them

[fading tartan]

BTW

does anyone else hear divine beauty in the cutscene music???

[random tendon]

yeah it's due to this

[fading tartan]

oooh, okay! makes sense

[random tendon]

anyway they said this is either shimooka due to how it feels a bit like amateurish in some parts, or a rare ando L

[shadow kindle]

The opening cutscene theme is pretty good

[vagrant hound]

Ando never takes L no matter what

[turbid nexus]

Hop off Shimooka

[vagrant hound]

Welcome ohara

[lean grove]

I think most likely it just means that Ando didn't compose the main theme

but still rearranged it for the cutscene

[lean grove]

and I do wonder if it is indeed lyrical again if then Ikegami was indeed brought on again to compose it

for what would be the third time

[ocean ingot]

I've done the same but with the Abandoned Beach remix and Four Adventurers 😭

[turbid nexus]

I’m not surprised
A lot of recent Kirby openings after Robobot just throw you right in lol
Though I guess the this one doesn’t need much of an establishing shot since we already know we’re we are

[vagrant hound]

you might wanna get your souls checked, maybe the sectonia is possessing your soul

[turbid nexus]

Okay I’m out of class now
Wow y’all weren’t kidding about the Sectonia stuff I thought this was gonna transition into Divine Beauty😭

[vagrant hound]

sectonia is returning

[turbid nexus]

Can’t wait for this to be the final boss theme

[shadow kindle]

I already have a feeling that the main leitmotif for SCW is going to sound sick in the SCW final boss theme

[twin fog]

Wait wtf why is the size marker after the t in they 😭

Wait actually 100 is the default size anyway isn't it

Since they reset it to 100 at the end

[sudden mirage]

Oh there’s a new video

[twin fog]

Wait this is the SCW thread moment

[shut pendant]

oh god damn it i was in the wrong chat again

[twin fog]

Wtf so true bestie

[shut pendant]

i think i'm too used to #kirby-kingdom being the channel right below #1019287715159744553

[sterile quartz]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Kirby/comments/1k6v4fh/nintendo_today_just_released_the_full_opening/

from reddit, the new intro cutscen

apparently they are the same

[shut pendant]

true

[random tendon]

yeah it's pinned here

[glad path]

I still think the heart on the island looks suspiciously wooden

[toxic delta]

get ready for Tree Crown without a Ruler 2

[shut pendant]

Crystal Flower without a Heart

[toxic delta]

https://www.kadokawa.co.jp/product/322504000754/ apparently July 2025 issue of Terebigēmu Magazine will have FL Switch 2 Edition stuff in it
might be good to keep eye on for when magazine preview images go up to see if there's anything new (like what happened with RtDL DX)

[vagrant hound]

pls remind me in one month Buy てれびげーむマガジン July 2025

[tulip coral]

Alright @vagrant hound, <t:1748104742:R>: Buy てれびげーむマガジン July 2025

[vagrant hound]

see yall in one month

(I'm also gonna get all the funny nintendo dream)

[random tendon]

ermmm no bot commands outside of #bot-commanding-banter !

banned

[shut pendant]

[vagrant hound]

womp womp

this is IMPORRTANT

[silk jewel]

when the world is star crossed

[vagrant hound]

also leo literally did a bot command over punching waddle dee so

this one should be excused

gigi will NOT get the picture of all the future books I am getting

[random tendon]

WHAT

[tribal igloo]

MY BABIES

ELFILINN

JRHFHGHGBBGHJK

HANG ON THAT LAST PART..

IT SOUNDS LIKE TRIPLE DELUXE

IM FUCKING SCREAMING

DUDE

THE FUCK

Excuse me and my language

😅

[vagrant hound]

LOOL everyone is saying this

(It’s true)

[tribal igloo]

Imagine if it is though..

I might be going insane

I am totally normal for triple deluxe

[toxic delta]

https://store.nintendo.co.kr/70050000057493 checking more things, Korean store page is also up now, says same size for Upgrade Pass as the other non-European ones

(oops meant to reply to updated JP site post but that's fine too)

Hong Kong one too https://ec.nintendo.com/HK/zh/aocs/70050000057443

https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-nintendo-switch-2-edition-plus-star-crossed-world-upgrade-pack-switch-2/ OH US page is up, price is completely confirmed $20 here now

[random tendon]

ah

[shut pendant]

epic screenshot

[random tendon]

can't find a page for the game + pack

[toxic delta]

not publicly displayed in page itself, but filesize is 11811160064 bytes, or 11.81116 GB here too

[random tendon]

"nintendo switch" lol

[toxic delta]

guessing they just haven't fully adjusted that yet yeah lol

https://www.nintendo.com/pt-br/store/products/kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-nintendo-switch-2-edition-plus-star-crossed-world-upgrade-pack-switch-2/ also here is Brazilian one if you need it, Gigi (since of course the other American pages are up now too)

[random tendon]

120 reais

https://tenor.com/view/jet-bean-killer-bean-ragdoll-ragdoll-fall-gif-23762382

[acoustic sage]

Still really want a big rig stage

[shut pendant]

omg imagine

[acoustic sage]

Big rig-mouthful Kirby when he sees Crystal Wild Frosty "blocking" the path:

https://tenor.com/view/open-season-shaw-deer-run-over-meme-gif-12251156658227451666

[olive coral]

i mean yea

but no one else thought to zoom in so lol

[toxic delta]

I mean, people have lol

[olive coral]

SECTONIA COMES BACK???

nah lol but imagine!

[olive coral]

mayyyybeeeee

[random tendon]

people on twitter are always late as usual lol

[fading tartan]

OH OOPS

[random tendon]

/lh btw

I did upload this to wikirby

[toxic delta]

only non-late thing was that one figure lmao

[twin fog]

What does this mean
No one thought to actually look at the image

It's like literally at the center of the image it's not like people didn't notice it was there

[toxic delta]

mentioning, Berlin, Dallas, Milan, and Toronto Switch 2 Experience starts tomorrow (and Tokyo one starts the 26th)
hopefully people will get more figures this time

[random tendon]

omg yes

[twin fog]

Guys we got a new render of Elfilin
Nobody has seen this before

[random tendon]

wtf that's so HD that literally jumpscared me

elfilin became real

[twin fog]

HD butt

[toxic delta]

https://twitter.com/sanei_NLG/status/1672439407167643648 smh he was already real

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X · Jun 24, 2023, 3:00 AM

this will be Kirby in 2025

[random tendon]

REAL

[arctic gale]

Awwh

[random tendon]

you reminded me that the kirby café stores always have this set and I always melted with cuteness at this lol

[signal garnet]

TRUE it's that kind of leitmotif vibe

[signal garnet]

FL cutscene themes ending in big brass haha

[signal garnet]

same

[toxic delta]

oh how long has it been there lol

[spiral void]

elfilin looks so funny

[heady ravine]

hehe

oop sorry ping

[signal garnet]

same

[random tendon]

I think it has been ever since the car mouth plate thing released

[turbid nexus]

Y’all ever wondered what he would look like if we shaved all his fur off

[signal garnet]

SECTONIA REAL!

[signal garnet]

why does he look like he's over a beartrap

[signal garnet]

butt

[arctic gale]

Bald

[toxic delta]

abomination

[arctic gale]

Uah

[toxic delta]

maybe it'd be bit more yellow idk

but Forgo is mainly pink so who knows

[reef patrol]

Looks very deep fry-able

[signal garnet]

there was this picture of a mouse with a giant ear i can't find

[broken void]

what did you DO TO HIM

[signal garnet]

though personally, sonsidering how forgo can just melt into blue slime

i question if maybe the fur is kinda like

[toxic delta]

does Forgo even have fur though

[signal garnet]

sorta part of his body?

not that it's unremovable but like

[turbid nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/rufus-kp-angry-kim-possible-gif-16368360

[signal garnet]

like maybe he's just a solidified blue thing and it's more like some of the outside blue is similar to fur

[toxic delta]

guess so

which makes the torn parts weirder lol

[shut pendant]

every forgotten land character has fur until proven otherwise

[signal garnet]

slime with extra steps

[hushed root]

Perfect for deep frier

[toxic delta]

even Gnawcodile?

[signal garnet]

i love how stupid gnawcodile's proportions are

[toxic delta]

big head

[heady ravine]

hehehe!

ive never seen it out of the water

thats so goofy

[broken void]

I can't remember. Seals have a little fur right

[heady ravine]

i dont think so?

i think they just have really thick fat

[toxic delta]

yeah figure shows it out of there

[heady ravine]

oh no they do have fur!

my bad

[broken void]

Yay

[heady ravine]

Oh i have that figure, i mustve only glanced at it

ou tight there is a seal enemy in fl

was wondering why you were asking that

balloon meister

silliest name for an enemy

[broken void]

He's a silly design I love him

[ocean ingot]

Bread crust

[signal garnet]

what would happen if you put elfilin/forgo in the oven

[signal garnet]

idremember...
fun fact they do have fingernails tho

[toxic delta]

whatever happens when you put honey in the oven (at least for Forgo)

or just slime in the oven

[vagrant hound]

Can’t stop me

[signal garnet]

from putting elfilin in the oven

[vagrant hound]

Forcing everyone to see super naked Elfilin

This channel’s pin is so cursed overall /pos

[broken void]

Ooo I did not know this

[shut pendant]

https://fxtwitter.com/TheAkaka123/status/1915438985536512097

CYN. (Ninja my go)🇵🇷🍉 (@TheAkaka123)

Quit playing with me HAL.

Quoting - ⭐️elfi - (@newworld_86)
︀
THE FULL INTRO CUTSCENE TO STAR CROSSED WORLD HAS BEEN POSTED ON NINTENDO TODAY!

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FxTwitter · Apr 24, 2025, 4:13 PM

[tribal igloo]

LMAO

EHRHDHHFHDHEJRGH😭

It would be so awesome if they had crystal versions of old bosses in the dlc or like holograms of them

Idk that's what my mind is thinking of

[shut pendant]

omg yes

[tribal igloo]

Since forgotten land kinda has some technology stuffs

[signal garnet]

Holo Defence API

[tribal igloo]

They could definitely pull if off If they wanted too

https://youtu.be/wzx7guu7R60?si=yfs96e1dnN7HSolY 0:53 you literally can't tell me that the story intro for the dlc at the end sounds like this😭

ITS LITERALLY THIS?DJNDNDNDNFNFGNYYYTRDL

[random tendon]

yeah it does

not like it means much

[tribal igloo]

I mean they also have a other reference to the game with that snow man

God I hated helping the snow man in that game

So much pressure

[toxic delta]

tbf snowman stuff is modern game trend (except SA and base FL), but yeah it seems most similar to TDX

but anyway funny how many Sectonia connections there are even if it probably isn't actually related to her lmao

[tribal igloo]

Imagine though

I would lose my mind/pos

[toxic delta]

funny incomplete list

[tribal igloo]

I mean they have a level named moonlight canyon as well 😭

Coincidence? I think not

[wispy violet]

wait so the dlc is half the game?

guh

[wispy violet]

when I first said something like that people said I was crazy

[tribal igloo]

😭

[toxic delta]

more than half (assuming you mean filesize-wise) it seems, at least going by current official estimates

[wispy violet]

.

[wispy violet]

yeah I was going by file size

thats pretty huge

[twin fog]

That Fucking Elfilis Render That I Hate

[silk jewel]

if somehow this dlc involves triple deluxe stuff

im going to explode

in a good way

[wispy violet]

it will

trust

-# I may or may not be delusional

[pastel jungle]

kirby fans when common shapes and objects

[toxic delta]

so true lmao

[signal garnet]

TRUE

[sand patrol]

wait why are people throwin in sectonia now

[twin fog]

I assume b/c of the funny leitmotif and nothing else (That specifially points to her over anything else)

[sand patrol]

which one

[twin fog]

.

[toxic delta]

I've been joking about it for weeks

[signal garnet]

^yeah lol

[toxic delta]

due to flower-crystal-constellation-heart stuff

[signal garnet]

it somehow keeps getting funnier which is funny itself since it probably won't happen

[twin fog]

Sectonia will return within the next 2 games trust

[broken void]

I do remember at least one case of accidental leitmotifs (tdx jungle level & vs star dream) so guess it's possible it happened again

[twin fog]

Its not even the first time we had an accidental sectonia reference

[toxic delta]

(and Elfilis having funny Sectonia connections too)

or moreso similar vibes I guess

[signal garnet]

people will use confirmation bias to say their favorite so and so is guranteed
but it's funny how somehow most of that mostly dubious evidence can somehow be pointed to sectonia or is stronger with sectonia somehow lol

[toxic delta]

Moonlight Capital in Welcome to Wondaria moment

[wise flame]

Everyone is so fucking wrong

ACTUALLY

THIS IS ACTUALLY TEASING TO MARX

[signal garnet]

ACTUALLY

[wise flame]

think about it, crystal propelled wings!

[toxic delta]

not enough hexagons smh

[twin fog]

Why can I never find that funny video of WYNO in ME

[toxic delta]

oh right that too

[wise flame]

The inexplicable inclusion of Marx's transitionary segment to the end in Welcome to Wondaria

[signal garnet]

THIS IS ACTUALLY TEASING TO LANDIA

[broken void]

I cannot remember what wyno is

[signal garnet]

i find it funny

how

it also includes moonlight capital lmao

[toxic delta]

funny thing is, they barely look crystalized half the time lmao
think SKC and Fighters 2 of all things is closest to it

[wise flame]

Marx's cutter attack used in Chaos Elfilis

[signal garnet]

TRUE

[wise flame]

Constellations?

gathering stars?

[twin fog]

Like I swear what the hell do I have to search to find that video every time I'm like 'I should pull up that funny video' I spend like half an hour not being able to find it

[signal garnet]

idk about you but chaos elfilis is acting a lot like marx soul!!!!

[wise flame]

Marx

[toxic delta]

oh right and Smash Ultimate, but that's for the hearts and not the hexagons

[signal garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/coincidence-i-think-not-coincidence-i-think-not-the-incredibles-gif-5096707

[wise flame]

In super star you gotta gather the stars to make a wish with a being powered by a heart

In SCW you gotta save the starries to do something against this heart thing

[signal garnet]

so anyways does anyone want to talk about why that crystal heart turned into a flaky heart and then pooped out an island?

[wise flame]

In super star you have to retread familiar yet alien worlds to get those stars

[ocean ingot]

The heart of Star Dream and the SCW Meteor Heart do like a little similar...

[signal garnet]

like were the crystals covering darkness

[toxic delta]

the heart is actually a clockwork star's heart

[wise flame]

In SCW you have to retread familiar yet still undiscovered regions of the Forgotten Land to get those starries

[wise flame]

WHAT'S THE HEART MADE OUT OF ULTRA BY?!

[signal garnet]

is it like the jamba heart, where the crystals were like the spears

[toxic delta]

moreso seems like island came up out of the ocean

[wise flame]

EXACTLY, JAMBA JUICE

[signal garnet]

in that they're something that got split off from it

[twin fog]

Ok fucking found it
Hell I'm just gonna write Welcome Your New Overlord leitmotif in this message because it's fucking stupid how hard it is to find this video
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1077968255232254092/1085936140802076793/Overlord_Intro.mp4?ex=680b9f57&is=680a4dd7&hm=9409ed9ce9a70517205c89917de853c194a43714e2fb5cde0f085dbef0981747&

[ocean ingot]

True Final Boss of the entire Kirby Series

[wise flame]

Marx spits a blue stone that splits into ice-cold projectiles

The crystals part and freeze the abandoned sea

and they're growing on blue stones

[signal garnet]

clearly this means that magolor is related to sectonia

||biologically||

[broken void]

They're both girlboss baddies

[wise flame]

what

[ocean ingot]

Clear proof that Magolor and Sectonia are actually Star-Crossed Lovers, and this whole game mode is just about their forbidden love

[signal garnet]

magolor is my favorite girlboss

[toxic delta]

actually this means they will fight to the death

[signal garnet]

What a world to win!

[broken void]

Baddy as in like bad guy lol

[signal garnet]

brainrot

[wise flame]

Nah meow I know what you said

[broken void]

Ahh lol

[signal garnet]

lmao

[wise flame]

wait who's who

[shut pendant]

What is this, some kind of Star-Crossed World?

[wise flame]

Kirby, I remember our 🔥GENOCIDES🔥

[signal garnet]

--the kirby fandom, early 200s

TYPO

[ocean ingot]

Bravo Kirby, you truly haven't learnt your lesson, have you? Your help with Marx, with the Master Crown... Surely you would know better than to trust a stranger... Well, this is your fault now. Prepare to bow New World, as the crystal coronation of your new supreme overlord commences! NYAHAHAHAHA

[wise flame]

Marx drop kicks Magolor, steals the crown, then becomes

...the bone guy

From like the early 2000's

Very fucking cool design I'm pulling it up rn

[signal garnet]

yeah ik who you're talking about

the og

[ocean ingot]

Welp, I'm off to draw some Crystal Marx art now

[wise flame]

wait where the fuck-

[signal garnet]

this will be kirby kscw in 2017

[wise flame]

Ok give me a moment here

[signal garnet]

TRUE
IT ALL POINTS TO MARX!

[wise flame]

Yeah this is all totally leading onto marx

[signal garnet]

PEAK!

[wise flame]

(Listen I'd LOOOVE to link the source but it's LOST MEDIA brooo)

[twin fog]

marx's eyes being under the hat is so cursed

Dude looks like he does so many drugs

[signal garnet]

nes sprite of character with hat syndrome:

[shut pendant]

sakurai came back to the kirby series just to make them put marx in everything

[signal garnet]

see Metall

i think rhv is spitting

[olive coral]

I'm a fraud😭😭😭

[twin fog]

Source is definitely dead but this is the highest quality version I found, you can see the artist mark for LinkWolf69

[olive coral]

also aint no way

[shut pendant]

yup

[broken void]

WHAT

[wise flame]

(I don't think *this design was ever given a concrete name so it's definitely hard to find an HQ post of it)

[twin fog]

Funny localization VAs when they're just random fuckers from treehouse

[shut pendant]

here you can hear her talk

[broken void]

The way she ate that voiceover though

[shut pendant]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-kirby-meta-knight-bandana-dee-waddle-dee-gif-25250682

[broken void]

I wish she'd drop that specific line in the treehouse just to fuck with fans lmao

[shut pendant]

no way she would spoil that for the people who haven't played the game yet

[twin fog]

Girl must have had so much self-control to not constantly say And Here We Are during the presentation

[shut pendant]

😭

[wise flame]

And here we are in the Star Crossed World expansion

[broken void]

Like make it subtle so it doesn't give it away if you haven't actually played that far lol

[broken void]

You get me

[toxic delta]

tried my hand at it
works oddly well lol

[signal garnet]

CLOWN CRYSTAL EYES

[broken void]

Peak

[signal garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-writing-fire-his-writing-is-fire-is-this-fire-hold-up-gif-15400153686296022809

[toxic delta]

making the hat like darkness lol

[shut pendant]

marx being revived for the third time just so he can fuck with kirby more:

[vagrant hound]

Now make every single one of them kiss

[acoustic sage]

It's been three whole years...

[signal garnet]

i've had people yell at me in skawo's server about spoilers so apparently not

[acoustic sage]

Plus they've already shown stuff beyond that point before, like Morpho Knight at the concert

[shut pendant]

these streams are also for incentivizing people to play the games shown, which would include people who haven't played og forgotten land yet

[shut pendant]

i think the casual nintendo fan who hasn't played forgotten land yet is more likely to watch the nintendo treehouse stream than the kirby anniversary concert

[signal garnet]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[random tendon]

what do you mean that casual fans don't stay up to watch music fest live

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[arctic gale]

Couldn't be me....

[signal garnet]

japanese music fest that mostly isn't freely available online and i didn't even know existed until after the fact 😔

[broken void]

I still haven't watched it. Oops

[toxic delta]

tbf
they also showed Morpho Knight Sword at release event LMAO
wonder if they'll pull that stuff again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjx7ju9OJPs
just spoiling the true final ability evolutions, as you do

[signal garnet]

LMAO

[broken void]

LOL

[toxic delta]

it's also on merch but that came a while after (and JP-only)
(and talked about in magazines too of course)

[broken void]

I wish they all got the pretty renders - the ones that are in-engine screenshots stick out like a sore thumb

[shut pendant]

please hal or nintendo give us these renders wikirby has used these "temporary" cropped files for 3 fucking years

or maybe someone just rip the models from the figures so we can use those

[toxic delta]

we have them

we have scans of the Copy Ability Encyclopedia lol

just no one's actually cropped and uploaded the art from there yet

[shut pendant]

i mean like transparent versions

yeah

[twin fog]

Bruh that's awful
Can you imagine if there was someone who could do that but was lazy as shit to do it

[shut pendant]

[acoustic sage]

I wonder if that eye in Morpho's sword has any significant meaning

Morpho itself isn't really associated with eyes at all

[twin fog]

Funny sword that was designed to look like the master crown and void's weak points

[signal garnet]

i just thought it was a crystal

[twin fog]

We do a little bit of trolling

[acoustic sage]

Nah it has a pupil in it

[signal garnet]

oh true

[toxic delta]

the

[twin fog]

Oh wow seeing them with anti-aliasing is weird

[fading tartan]

HUH

I WANNA SEE

[shut pendant]

wait where is this

[random tendon]

wait why is the angle different from the other from wikirby /genq

[twin fog]

Wikirbys are cropped from the in-game figure viewer

[shut pendant]

the wikirby image is literally just a screenshot but with fansparency

[toxic delta]

https://archive.org/details/kirby-abilities-encyclopedia images are in zip specifically
(https://ia804600.us.archive.org/view_archive.php?archive=/10/items/kirby-abilities-encyclopedia/Kirby Abilities Encyclopedia.zip)

[random tendon]

OH I see

[toxic delta]

it can be bit hard to view with just numbers lmao

[fading tartan]

AHAHAHA YESSSZ

[random tendon]

oh I missed this existing

but probably because I was in japan judging from the upload date

[shut pendant]

yeah i don't remember ever even hearing of this thing lol

[fading tartan]

I NEED MORE KATFL STUFF..

[random tendon]

nice

oh wait now I remember

[shut pendant]

damn that's a lotta pages

[toxic delta]

yeah there was whole discussion in files channel in WiKirby server lmao (someone had to reupload it because of where it came from)

[random tendon]

someone posted it on a ... bad site then reuploaded on archive.org

yes

[fading tartan]

are there any scans of any katfl booksh

?

[shut pendant]

here's the full images for morpho knight sword and masked hammer

[fading tartan]

i remember hearing abt there being a guidebook

[random tendon]

anyway that's epic time to add this to my endless pile of wikirby projects

[fading tartan]

DONT OVERWORK URSELF

[toxic delta]

you mean guidebook? sort of but it isn't good quality

[random tendon]

no scans but I own it

[fading tartan]

ill take what i can get ^_^

[toxic delta]

is one of the guidebook scans we have at all lmao

[random tendon]

it's a pain to scan books

[signal garnet]

LESGO

[random tendon]

this is the ebook version it looks like

[toxic delta]

yeah, bit of modern 'scans' are

[signal garnet]

(wait you're that elfilin artist i love on twitter i think)

[fading tartan]

OH AWHH THANK YOU??

HELLO!!

[signal garnet]

oh hey i love your work!^^ ty for making it

[fading tartan]

thanks! :D

[toxic delta]

https://archive.org/details/img-20240107-131630-110 anyway here
all in JP obviously

[signal garnet]

yo neat

[fading tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-gif-7846237205530980005

[signal garnet]

im getting to foggy to clearly read all of this, but clearer FL art looks like good news!

[tribal igloo]

YO I CAME UP WITH A CRAZY IDEA

So there's a new extra place by the world/lands right? What if at every end of those levels it brings back a cool boss we seen from before (like I mentioned earlier)

So it doesn't have to be just Galacta knight

What IF the new areas are based off of old bosses

THAT WOULD BE CRAZY

[shut pendant]

Level 1: Crystal Kracko
Level 2: Crystal Gobbler
Level 3: Crystal Blade (like a dyna blade relative like acti blade from the novels)
Level 4: Crystal Dragon (like ice and electric dragon)
Level 5: Crystal Pix
Level 6: Crystal Pyribbit

[tribal igloo]

Nahh not pyribbit😭

I always hated them💔

[vagrant hound]

Crystal Pyribbit soil

SOUL

You know what, he can stay as Pyribbit Soil

[tribal igloo]

Soil😭

[languid cobalt]

Crystal pyribbit soil, more like crystal pyribbit compost

[languid cobalt]

NO

We

Need

Mega titan

[vagrant hound]

Mega Dead Dead

[heady ravine]

good boss

but yeah, this dlc having crystal versions of past bosses brought into 3d would be so great

[ocean ingot]

Still remember when I thought Forgo grabbing Elfilin was some sort of Sewage Kracko :(

[heady ravine]

oh a toxic pollution kracko would be sick

like it starts out as like a water based formation in a polluted lake that turns into a gas cloud in the second phase, making him have the shape and behavior we all know and love

[silk jewel]

The villain of this story will be Dale

[shut pendant]

does this count

[heady ravine]

what the fuck is that from

wait ive seen that in a fangame

[turbid nexus]

Super Kirby Clash lol

[heady ravine]

Oh

yeah ive barely played that

its called venom kracko right?

[shut pendant]

yes

[languid cobalt]

Sounds abour right, he is a piece of shit

Also yeah, i got tricked too

[ocean ingot]

Imagine if SCW had Water.... and then it like evolved into something like Poison but themed like Polluted Water...

[languid cobalt]

Hear me out, sparkly water

A fusion between water and mirror

[sterile quartz]

i see but i feel like the reason GK has a leg over sectonia is because sectonia's story is over and gk's is explicitly not

[sterile quartz]

[sterile quartz]

this is the book that says elfilis really is pure evil

among a lot of other things

[wispy violet]

ya'll are stupid /j

the answer is very very clear

its not gk, sectonia, or marx.

It's susie!

My evidence: presence of another dimension, [redacted], [data expunged], trust me bro

[toxic delta]

and HWC has crystal-ish stuff (including Dimension Meteor, diamond-like, and four-pointed shapes)

might as well post these ones too lol

[wispy violet]

more evidence for my crack theory !

[shut pendant]

my ears are yearning for more kirby music i NEED the full versions of all the new tracks

[turbid nexus]

I need that Running Through the New World remix I’m so hungry

[tribal igloo]

SAMMMEEEE

[ocean ingot]

I want the full Abandoned Beach remix...

Also can't wait for both Forbidden Land remixes...

[signal garnet]

They said its not impossible for sectonia to return and the clash line could be a reference to his earlier appearances who knows, this point also presumably assumes that this appearance will have to do with their story and won't just be a cool arena fight :circus:
(Plus if we're talking story and also assuming gk craves death, I always thought it was weird since pulling him from an earlier time just to repeat basically the same events would...just lead to him feeling the same way, and could allow one to argue his story might just loop around in circles as long as he keeps being dragged into boss fights over and over because "hes badass")

So really yeah sectonia's unlikely obv, who knows what will happen!

[ocean ingot]

The entire Kirby series is just Galacta Knight's punishment in the underworld

[signal garnet]

Galacta knight is squidward

[toxic delta]

maybe if Squidward was violent

[turbid nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-parenthood-angry-gif-10859407

[twin fog]

I can't stop thinking about how the upgrade pack is apparently 11gb

Can't help but wonder now if the original 5.7gb listing for the update is indicative of like
how big like only the SCW content was without any of the replaced base-game assets or if its just a completely random incorrect number they had

[fading tartan]

its

What?

ARE YOU SAYINF. KATFL IS GOING TO DOUBLE IN SUZE

[twin fog]

The Australian listing says the upgrade pack is 11gb and the full bundle is 17gb

[fading tartan]

SIZE

[fading tartan]

WHAT????????????

WHAT DO YOU MEAN STAR CROSSED WORLD ALONE IS DOUBLE KATFL'S ENTIRE SIZE

[sterile quartz]

isnt it like 11 gigabytes

total

[sterile quartz]

wait what

is the game optimization that big

because like

[fading tartan]

hal always makes sure to make their games worth the price oh my GOSH 😭

[twin fog]

That's what I was assuming but that's how AU lists it so 🤷

[sterile quartz]

no i doubt the new content takes up that much of it

[sterile quartz]

ehh

i somehow doubt that the content is entirely scw content

because like

no way dude

[twin fog]

2.5K assets go brrt

[sterile quartz]

scw seems too small

either the effects have a lot of files to get working

or the framerate is the thing

but it is NOT that much

[lean grove]

i assume its probably decompressed textures

for the whole game

since textures make up a large amount of filesize compared to data

[twin fog]

Yea its like
How much of the base game assets are they redoing in HD

[toxic delta]

and basically everything but European store lists that as size rn (for upgrade pack, for most)

[lean grove]

i don't think higher poly models will increase filesize that much tbh
like its a few hundred MBs at most

its probably just higher resolution textures to match the higher resolution

[toxic delta]

also SCW seems to have a lot already

new stages, new figures, new enemies (even if variants), new Mouthful Modes, etc.

even outside the visual standpoint, we're getting ton of new songs too

[lean grove]

it doesn't make sense to expect twice as much content as the main game though

[twin fog]

Honestly I don't even know if I believe that they'll replace models with higher poly ones

[toxic delta]

yeah base game definitely takes up a chunk too

[lean grove]

they probably won't replace models

[lean grove]

so realistically the only way its being doubled is if they're enhancing the base game as well and adding "redundant" content in the form of higher resolution textures

[toxic delta]

I mean they are, we know that already

but even actual new stuff isn't super-small or anything

[twin fog]

Like if you just break it down to like a simple 50/50 split and like 5.5gb worth of it is base game material redone and 5.5gb of it is SCW then like
If you're increasing textures from 900p worthy to 1440p worthy dfk maybe that's gonna make each texture like twice the size they were before? So like maybe 2gb worth of assets from the base game redone?

Doing that elementary school simplification but man

Wait half of 5.5 is closer to 3 not 2 ig I can't even do elementary math

[toxic delta]

oh right should also mention, at least one prerendered cutscene too obviously
(and then there's new gimmicks, whatever is in the new hub, overworld adjustments, etc.)

[twin fog]

Oh yea if they redo all the pre-rendered cutscenes to be 1440p

Oh right there's only 4 pre-rendered movies not counting the funny tutorial vids

[toxic delta]

oh I forgot about the tutorial videos

can anyone tell from Treehouse video if they're higher quality too now (guessing so)

the

[twin fog]

I'd imagine they are
Also actually the 1080p cutscenes in FL rn only add up to like 338mb

The tutorial ones ad up to 11mb

[toxic delta]

ah lol

is there any chance of them making music (and sound effects) higher quality lol

[twin fog]

So like I imagine all the pre-rendered cutscenes combined in the upgrade pack would take up like 800mb-1gb assuming they redid all the base game ones and then there's like
A second pre-rendered cutscene in SCW we haven't seen yet

Could be like as low as 700mb if there isn't a second prerendered cutscene or anything

inb4 they do the videos in 4K actually

[twin fog]

Can't imagine they would
Maybe they'll randomly update Roche Limit like they did with Birth of Hope

[toxic delta]

oh yeah also
do y'all think they'll do anything with that place in Waddle Dee Town where Point of Arrival was originally accessed
since that has own spot on map now

[twin fog]

I imagine it's just a redundancy now

[toxic delta]

they won't pull a RtDL DX subgames moment and have two entrances to it right
right?

[twin fog]

Star Allies had the world map select for Kirby Star Allies as well as the Starlight Heroes access too

[toxic delta]

true lol (but having them both made enough sense)

quick way or the cool way (or also the closer-to-how-it-is-in-other-games way)

there was unique animation for world map one there right

[twin fog]

yea you fly into a black hole

[toxic delta]

ah yeah thought so

is nice to see that beyond that end eyecatch lol

moment

[twin fog]

Honestly the fact that you fly into a black hole to reach the battlefield and like
They don't show you that is so stupid
Like yea its technically in the end catch but honestly you can't tell at all its a black hole from this image

You just have to actually see the black hole in starlight heroes and recognize the way it looks

[toxic delta]

you can but Void is blocking the main tell yeah lol

I moreso didn't realize they were the same one for a while

[twin fog]

I would absolutely not agree that this was an image of a black hole or tunnel or whatever if we couldn't see it in-game on the map afterwards

Like I'd just say its a random swirly aura effect

[toxic delta]

ending probably doesn't help since it just makes it look like it's in the same space

[twin fog]

Also just
Man if we actually saw kirby and the funny red smoke cloud flying through the black hole instead of just this image it'd be so peak like
That'd be such a cool scene

Hell even seeing like what is shown in the game
The way they fly into the battlefield is so peak when the battle first starts
Just having a simple scene of them flying through space and into the portal even with nothing really going on would've rocked

Honestly the more I think about it
All the world transition cards should've been animated cutscenes
Same problem as FL's credits photos showing the party with the beast pack

The scene of Kirby and friends checking on DDD
The scene of
Uh
Don't remember what the post MK one was, was it just a shot of the Jambastion? Ig that one's a cutscene then
The scene of Kirby and co flying into space
The scene of them chasing the red cloud into the black hole
All should've been cutscenes

[odd crane]

It does look like wings

[torn vapor]

Kirby and The Forgotten Land + Star Crossed World (2025)

https://x.com/RealSonicDaily/status/1915462061972443182?t=M100f_tu9mMDMwwrZUPdHQ&s=19

Metal Sonic Daily (@RealSonicDaily) on X

X · Apr 24, 2025, 5:45 PM

[lean grove]

something funny I just realized that no one's brought up
Galacta Knight's consistently been referred to as "crossing space-time" since his debut, which is a funny coincidence considering the localized title and levels incorporating "crossing"
but the problem is that every localization since RtDL has removed this aspect, and at most the phrase is associated with Another Dimension in general

[vital lodge]

The full Switch 2 Forgotten Land is going to be 17 GB? whaaaaat? 95% of it must be upgraded textures...no way Star Crossed World is going to be a lengthy postgame...

I mean it's surely going to be the longest postgame ever (excluding RTDX's Extra Mode which really doesn't count), but 17 GB...wow...

[sand patrol]

The textures don't really look upscaled

[wild rune]

Isn't the Japanese way smaller?

[vital lodge]

That's just the Upgrade Pack

Base + Upgrade is 17 GB

[signal garnet]

Thats not the best argument since Trailers have been not giving us the full picture before

We frankly don't know much about what scw even is

Or how many new features they plan on adding

[random tendon]

I don't think the file size relates to content

this is 20 dollars it won't have as much/more content than base game

I think what we should focus more is that HAL added HiAD and all the KSA updates for free

and imo that points to star crossed world being bigger than all of them combined, which I hope it is

[signal garnet]

Ii think they'd just let you access it still
As a little small detail

[sand patrol]

Well

I think SA used the finish long term approach

[signal garnet]

I learned it was a black hole
Just now when you said it lmao

Cool looking stuff but random lol

[random tendon]

it didn't, in particular not HiAD. we almost got just an extra planet instead lol

I mean mostly that I expect this to be bigger than HiAD at least

[signal garnet]

I just realized whenever the series does that reminded me of making me feel like

Enchanted Portals lol

https://youtu.be/ELD7Et9WjD4?si=CgL-FK5M83cOaR_M

Most of these are in-between/50% hp boss phases fyi

[acoustic sage]

"No! That's my-- CRYSTAL SONIC!!"

[signal garnet]

Starrie Oppressing Force: WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
Kirby: "Kirby.
Of.
The Stars."
saves the starries once and for all

[toxic delta]

not much new obviously but page updated again, now is closer to JP and UK ones (instead of just having description)

not as big as JP site, but keyart without logo or a border I guess

[fading tartan]

AHUUGDHAHaha sndndnd

YES YES YESS

YESSS!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes

[toxic delta]

really the crop seems different in general near the sides and top

for comparison, other key art pics we had were these
you can see more of the art now

[fading tartan]

this is awesome!!!

[toxic delta]

is interesting to see how rift doesn't extend all the way
(mind you I think we saw this ingame already but still)

[shut pendant]

kinda reminds me of this part of the forgotten land logo lol

[random tendon]

it was foreshadowing all along?????????????????????

[shut pendant]

everything in this game was secretly foreshadowing

[toxic delta]

oh yeah reminder to be on the lookout for Switch 2 Experience videos

[turbid nexus]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-through-binoculars-brandon-the-ms-pat-show-finding-someone-looking-around-gif-7525923395731616534

[tardy mortar]

To give an idea: BOTW Upgrade Pack is like 9 GB but TOTK Upgrade Pack is 3 GB

if you wanna benefit from better load times, the Upgrade Pack probably needs to have file duplication just so it's loaded from a place that's actually faster

[random tendon]

oh that is actually a good point

[toxic delta]

ah yeah true

[tardy mortar]

but can still use the original cartridge for stuff that isn't necessarily prone to high usage (and therefore has no real benefit to duplicate for faster loading)

[toxic delta]

mind you, things are gonna be sort-of duplicated anyway with figures
and maybe stage stuff

and wouldn't be surprised if enemy variants are separate too
all those already add up a bit

[tardy mortar]

that said I think BOTW Upgrade Pack has seen actual refactoring to a lot of systems and files

While TOTK didn't really need it because it's more up to date technologically speaking

But the good thing is: At least the Upgrade Pack does not actually require you to download the entire game

your physical cart would still be used legitimately

that said, there's potentially a point to have in having slightly faster loading if you play digitally or using a NS2 Edition physical cart

than playing with the original cart with downloaded Upgrade Pack

At least the cool thing is that a NS2 Edition cart actually works on Switch 1 to play the original version

[sudden mirage]

NS2 edition carts have everything on the cartridge right

[tardy mortar]

yes

There was a lot of confusion apparently caused by Nintendo Customer Support

except you shouldn't really rely on them for many reasons

and then in the end, it was patched up and clarified and it just turns out that, as usual, the box actually said everything accurately

[sudden mirage]

Nintendo properly explain anything the first time challenge

[tardy mortar]

and that the fact it did not mention the word "download" should have tipped people

[sudden mirage]

But that’s cool. I’m really glad they’re doing it like this

[tardy mortar]

because that was the first thing I mentioned when people repeated the Customer Support thing

and I was here like "so they mention download required on Game-Key Cards plainly in front of the box but not NS2 Edition cards?"

The only thing that wouldn't be necessarily obvious was Switch 1 support, but even that was something I questioned when the box says "this includes the Nintendo Switch game and the Upgrade Pack"

but I can see how not obvious it is

but it turns out you just had to take every word literally

It's a bit unrelated but Split Fiction is a box with an eShop code in it.

and the box still says Game Card not included, download required

Putting aside the bullshit in how they didn't even bother with a Game Key Card

In every single possible case, it is plainly stated on the front of the box

...There are moments on PS5 where the mention of download required is extremely small on the box.

if at all

so I'll give some merit to Nintendo being very much transparent

[signal garnet]

You can see more water!

[signal garnet]

I love they managed to make a gradient FEEL like grass

[toxic delta]

what does this one feel like

[shut pendant]

paint

[toxic delta]

I thought it was like blueberries...

[signal garnet]

Lock on technology 2.0????? /j

[signal garnet]

Not enough dark blue
Reminds me more of space or the ocean maybe

HAL's true plan was to incorporate rorschach elements into their logos lol

[ocean ingot]

Two Planets Approach the Rorschach Element

[vital lodge]

This is so interesting I wish I could see what's going on behind the scenes

[glad path]

https://fxtwitter.com/EpsilonD2/status/1915649419195658661

Sparked Neo (@EpsilonD2)

@SomethingInWorl //weird yellow thing after the outside breaks off, broken Warp Star or Pac-Man?
︀︀
︀︀Weird blue goop with pink eye and closer look at weird yellow thing looks more star shaped so that’s 2pts for broken Warp Star

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FxTwitter · Apr 25, 2025, 6:09 AM

[wise flame]

https://tenor.com/view/pac-man-gif-5243770954508413714

[toxic delta]

honey

[slow ivy]

post credits scene

kirby and elfilin chilling in dee village

dr strange portal opens

“erm… this isn’t the maze! 😅”

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[toxic delta]

anyway looking at stuff again, interesting too see how when the meteor hits it gives off blue, green, and yellow light
in general those + pink seems to be their 'main' colors

most stuff is predominantly blue and pink rn but we got breakable crystals being green and yellowish (and Starryflowers being about equal with the non-blue and pink colors)

[wise flame]

Fractal Forgo

(Wait that's not even a crystal-based name, nevermind)

[smoky kestrel]

okay it sounds kickass though

[toxic delta]

actually I guess it's got all of them just most shots so far have the warm color parts

[smoky kestrel]

i see pink in there. yknow who else is pink. and also crystals. Galacta knight. Confirmed. /j

[toxic delta]

but he's got barely any green smh

[smoky kestrel]

actually kirby is pink and kirby has crystal shards and crystal needle. So this is actually proof that Kirby will be in Star-Crossed World

[toxic delta]

but you know who had bit of green? Flowered Sectoni-

[slow ivy]

i feel like realistically it’s just the splitting of white light because they’re like prisms but the connection to the 5 main kirby colors is interesting because i’m also seeing some red in there

[toxic delta]

seems more pinkish overall

than red

[slow ivy]

what is pink but light red

[smoky kestrel]

i’d love to see these tie back to the hypernova fruits. plants with weird power that are rainbow

[toxic delta]

I mean, magenta exists

[slow ivy]

idk it’s either that or it’s probably not intentional

or they’re finally undergoing red kirby erasure

truly the worst of times

[toxic delta]

anyway I guess they could do prismatic theming with this
prisms are crystalish

[slow ivy]

i saw a crazy theory where the meteors are connected to the crystal shards in some way

that might be worth exploring

[toxic delta]

(and Kirby games do already have lot of rainbow-theming, hell even in FL itself Forgo Dreams already has it even if not emphasized)

[toxic delta]

really there's lot of crystals they could connect too

but yeah Crystal (Shards) has portal+fragment+meteor (in opening) stuff going on

though latter is more thematic connection

[wise flame]

I do wonder if the crystals and elfilis have some correlation

So far here's some similarities:

• Empower living beings
• Manifest objects and entities out of nothing
• Mess up the sky
• Heart Motif

[toxic delta]

also stars, as always

[wise flame]

Nothing on spacial teleportation yet

[toxic delta]

Rare Stones in base FL are also already crystal-like

[slow ivy]

i saw a theory that the crystal shards are used to repel general evil (dm in 64’s case) so they’re probably being used to nullify the jamba heart because it’s covered in tiny shards

idk how reasonable it is because we don’t know much about the shards themselves

they are kind of just a generic magic collectable

[toxic delta]

I just realized there's sort of a four-pointed star in icon but it's not the most similar to SCW ones so far

other than

[slow ivy]

am i missing critical 64 lore do we know what the shards even do?

rather than just “beat dark matter”

[toxic delta]

make portals
full Crystal can become a gun
get rid of dark cloud possession
maybe some other power, we know dark cloud wanted it

[shut pendant]

actually we don't even know that since the 64 dark cloud is not confirmed to be related to dark matter

[slow ivy]

i mean the gun can hurt 02

[shut pendant]

yeah

[wise flame]

Spacial teleportation

[acoustic sage]

Maybe they just wanted to get rid of it, rather than harnessing its power

[wise flame]

But yeah that's it really

[acoustic sage]

That's more of an Ado situation where every sign in existence points to it but HAL just decided to be little shits about it and intentionally make it 'ambiguous"

[toxic delta]

also it's considered the 'fairies's treasure', so I guess 'look pretty' can be considered a use

[slow ivy]

i swear it’s like an activation code whenever i hear something about kirby and portals

don’t think it don’t say it don’t think it don’t say it don’t think it don’t say it aaaaaaAAAAA ANOTHER DIMENSION

[twin fog]

Maybe Zero Two and his dark cloud could've integrated with the crystal like how the Master Crown ended up full of darkness

[toxic delta]

oh yeah they say it has とてもすごい力 ('very great power')

[twin fog]

Didn't call it a hihou, cringe

[toxic delta]

とてもすごい力 vs 大いなる力
who wins
(latter is the one used for Squeaks's goal in SqSq and for Fruit Fragments in Epilogue)

wonder which one Big Starryflower will use for its JP figure description

[twin fog]

Oh wait the star rod is also called a 秘宝 in the instruction manual I totally knew that before just now

[toxic delta]

oh makes sense

can't believe Dedede stole two hidden treasures...

[twin fog]

Smash Melee also calls the star rod a 秘宝

[slow ivy]

i’m so scared of SCW because i’ve seen these insane theories about one of the heroes of yore showing up or dark matter or someone hype but it’s probably going to be just some original villain even if we’re lucky

or worse something like parallel elfilis

[twin fog]

In what world is an original villain worse than dark matter or galacta knight showing up

[toxic delta]

also using 降り I guess

[slow ivy]

absolutely not worse, but i think some people are getting their hopes up

[twin fog]

like crack theories aside having a paid dlc and its just centered around a rehashed boss would be so fucking cringe

[toxic delta]

yeah, especially when like
no modern main series game has a 'returning' villain (other than 'basic' extra modes)
not for 'second' extra modes either

[slow ivy]

i’ve seen theories that galacta knight is going to take off their mask and

like

no?

[toxic delta]

closest we get is Star Dream and Void
but those are not the actual entities or anything

[twin fog]

Like you can technically say Master Crown fight in RtDL DX is technically a returning villain since the Master Crown was in the original game and Magolor Soul was basically 'the crown itself' so in that sense maybe we could get someone who story-wise is technically a returning character but like
idk bout all that tbh

[slow ivy]

like i said original is LUCKY realistically for the price of what honestly is going to be a slightly bulkier ex mode it might just be a souped up rehash like heroes in another dimension

[toxic delta]

and Master Crown but that's an object (Gem Apple) rather than a character

[slow ivy]

come to me my hero sour joe

[twin fog]

I don't see any possibility they would make something on the level of HiAD when HiAD was a free update and this is paid DLC

At the very least it would have to be something on the scale of Magolor Epilogue

[wise flame]

The small starry count that we got to see for world 1 and 3 makes me think there's more than just the Forgotten Land

[toxic delta]

yeah I expect closer to Epilogue (but probably beyond that)

[slow ivy]

i think you’re right but this is also nintendo

[twin fog]

Its HAL

[toxic delta]

especially considering what's been shown so far

[toxic delta]

12 stages are already a lot but I would not be surprised if there was more (whether it be unique Lab Discovera one and/or new world)
+we're getting new hub stuff and probably Treasure Roads too

[wise flame]

If we're going off of pattern recognition and Kirby formulas...
Then half of the levels in SCW take place in the first/last level of Forgotten Land's 6 worlds

Like if there's only 2 "remixes" per world then we got 3 world's worth of levels

[twin fog]

The big question when it comes to looking at the Starry count is like
Whether the boss stages will be like the base game where the boss takes up its own level with 7 starries or if they'll be like forgo dreams where they're at the end of a full stage

[slow ivy]

i guess it is like close to half the price of og forgotten land so we are definitely getting something big for a final boss

the more i think about it the more i think it’ll be something original

[wise flame]

With this whole star theme we got going, the obvious thing to conclude from it is that we'll be going beyond FL at some point

[slow ivy]

but i think some fan theories are putting way too much on HAL

[twin fog]

It's exactly a third the price and like half of that is just the cost of upgrading from switch 1 to switch 2

[slow ivy]

currency exchange is weird

[twin fog]

What does this have to do with currency exchange

[wise flame]

Also we have to consider the fact this expansion may be getting post game content of its own...

[toxic delta]

probably not a stage with Starries at least (for former)

[signal garnet]

Ooh
Probably no meaning to that but that's a nice attention to detail aesthetic

[slow ivy]

i know the canadian price of forgotten land, the american price of SCW, and I don’t want to double check

[twin fog]

What does that have to do with what we were talking about

[wise flame]

If they're gonna keep this new stuff separate from the base game (we already got starry coins from the trailers/footage), then that implies that there's more going on over there

[twin fog]

Like why did canadian price of fl suddenly get mentioned
Like is the context that you're canadian

[slow ivy]

i’m saying i thought it was half and it wasn’t lmao

nvm

[wise flame]

Like sure SCW could be shorter than FL's story mode, but why incorporate a separate currency unless there's something longterm going on with it?

[twin fog]

The fact that there's a separate type of coins is interesting yea wondering what the point of that is

[toxic delta]

whatever's in the new hub I guess

[lean grove]

i honestly kinda think that there will be a way to convert those starry coins into rare stones
but i'm very sure that the main use of them will be for what will be the new copy ability (abilities?) will be and its equivalent of evolution

[toxic delta]

and maybe for the new figure Gotchas

[wise flame]

...Wait has the US Nintendo store been updated before or...?

[twin fog]

Rare Stones definitely feel like something that was more scarce than needed to be for the base game so having new ways to get rare stones would be nice

[toxic delta]

yes

[wise flame]

Ah ok

[toxic delta]

first updated yesterday then again this morning

[wise flame]

Ugh how annoying, they show the filesize for the upgrade pack but not the packaged game...

[twin fog]

Is AU the only store that shows the bundle size

[lean grove]

i feel like the EX gotcha machine will still use regular star coins
if only because you still get star coins anyway and its probably going to get tedious to grind starry coins as far as we know since there are way less stages

but then again i suppose we don't know how that works

[wise flame]

I guess?

Also holy shit the AU webpage for the upgrade pack got atrocious color choices

[toxic delta]

I think so?

[wise flame]

Starry Coins are absolutely meant for SCW-related things

Now why we still get regular coins judging from gameplay footage... I mean it's kinda just there for players who still have things to do for the base game

[signal garnet]

It's funny how little people are thinking of the game literally named after crystals
And had the incredibly creatively named object called "THE CRYSTAL"

[wise flame]

The crystal caves from GCO

[toxic delta]

yeah, powering-up stuff in particular uses it

plus obviously buying items

[toxic delta]

not first time it was brought up here lol

keep in mind this series has lot of crystals

[wise flame]

So many rainbow spiky things in Kirby