#Spider-Verse

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Real

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dude this movie is so great

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Probably the first movie to make me truly feel something it’s so good at tension

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There were genuine moments where I felt overwhelmed and that I needed a moment

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I don’t know how to describe it it was just great

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(OST AND CHARACTER SPOILERS) ||Spot Holes 2 and Spot in general are so just terrifyingly… off. The fact that he manages to stand out in a movie where the styles are so incredibly distinct is just ufhfhhfhf and he is shabajsjns||

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GOD

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THis movie

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I can’t stop thinking about it

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Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes

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Unbelievably memorable character

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On the flip side of emotion, was listening to ||My Name... is Miles Morales
THEY MIXED A GOOSE AS AN INSTRUMENT. THE GOOSE HONKS ARE INSTRUMENTS||

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Listen

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It's there

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||I won't be emotionally damaged until it happens||

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that would be so sick dude

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I can’t stop thinkigng about this movie dude how are rhey gonna top it

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I’m so excited

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It’s been so long to have this wondrous feeling of being so STOKED for what’s happening next

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OH LMAO

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I need the entire sequence to look like this

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Or else I'm burning down the theater

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||this black and white segment jumpscared the shit out of me||

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Just in case you missed this too

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||We need more love for my boy spider-plushie||

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Yeah I just went looking for that one

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This image is unreaaaaaal

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I get why Miles ||had a freaking panic attack||

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||that image was seared into his head||

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i'd be freaking tf out too

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||this spot is scary as hell||

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Not yet I'm not

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He had the coldest lines of the entire movie

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march please come fast šŸ™

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MARCH?

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WOOOOOOOOO

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??????

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I THOUGHT IT WAS APRIL

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THAT SOON???

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THIS IS LIKE THE MOVIE COMING A MONTH EARLY

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YEAH BABY

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lmao yeah

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MAtch 2024????

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yeah

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Less than a year

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really hope it doesnt get delayed

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If you don't want needless nitpicky complaining don't click-- I'm not trying to be a killjoy but I do have a few things to say

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oh the sequel could in theory release in my birthday 😳

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apperently its releasing march 29th so

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||Peter B Parker did not belong in this movie. His motivations, atmosphere, and story beats clash wildly at almost every point. If that's the narrative point, I think it's to the movie's detriment. He has really great emotional moments that deserve to be spotlighted (hehe spot) but they're drowned out by the ongoing action sequences. I feel like these scenes were somehow supposed to be in the third movie-- Miles intro, Gwen intro, and Peter B intro||

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||I'll be real I said the first line just to prove a point, he has a place in this movie, but in the form he's taken I think he needed to be someone else||

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||i get you, on rewatch that scene of the intense music playing over peter talking to mary jane was a little jarring šŸ’€ ||

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||His reunion scene with Mayday-- cute! Great! But Miguel standing there ominously and threatningly saps away any joy on the reunion, and also Miles is NOT overjoyed to see him, reasonably so! And it hurts and makes the scene go by so slowly and awkwardly||

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||"Hold the baby"... where to begin. Horrible timing, horrible pacing, music choice undercuts all of Peter's words, scene is used as a betrayal, Peter DOESN'T CARE AND KEEPS QUIPPING after clearly hurting Miles near irreparably... it was actually so awful on second viewing||

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||And yeah, the scene with MJ straight up has to be spliced in from a different version of the film, it has no bearing on that scene or the movie or Peter's story as the movie currently runs||

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Spiderverse had a rocky transition to 3D

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# inner elbow ||Peter B Parker did not belong in this movie. His motivations, atmosphere, and ...

||Yeah I didn’t really like him much. His story is already finished too, like compared to Miles having a new more personal foe with the Spot, Gwen’s struggle with her father and both having to deal with Miguel they have like genuine issues I can see taking a while to solve. It fees like B Parker was done in the first movie. His humor isn’t even good too, he just feels like a replacement of the gag side character spot was played out to be in the opening, except spot is. Y’know. While Peter is just a ā€œhey this how I’m doing now but I’m still a main character soā€||

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THAT WAS THE BIGGEST BETRAYAL

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||HIS HUMOR WAS TRASH. SO ONE NOTE... I WAS SO SAD||

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although

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I will come back with cope

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||There's something to be said about Peter being stuck in the past with his and Miles' dynamic, which is why he thinks it'll be like good old times, while Miles has grown up and isn't willing to play along anymore||

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||He's a hurt kid in a hard world where everyone hates him and Peter is trying to make jokes and "hold the baby"ing his way through a very important scene||

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||Which he at no point realizes he seriously goofed up in||

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||It could have great payoff in Beyond||

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you don't get to make that joke

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not until he does

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his send off in beyond will be him saying he was a terrible teacher

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I said "not bad kid"... but what I really meant was... "bad kid".

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you're a bad kid miles. if you had just held the baby like I said none of th

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lmao

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Unrelated to the current convo I really like the foreshadowing and how you can see the issues in t movie

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"Shut up, Peter. I was a bad kid. And now I'm a bad man. But I can't count on you to help me fix that."

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It’s not blindsided I love that so much

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Miles should've yeet the Baby

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THE WAY THE INTRO ||SHOWS SUPER SIGNIFICANT SCENES BETWEEN HIM AND GWEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE MOVIE||

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||LOVED IT||

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||not just on a rewatch the first time through I was like "that was. a really randomly emotionally charged scene? did that happen already?"||

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||Like learning how the go home machine works but if you remember the monologues about how Miles was bitten by the wrong spider you realize ā€œoh dude he won’t be in the right dimensionā€ and even if you don’t understand it then it’s easy to piece together when we see him glitch i love love LOOOVe that so much dude||

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On a rewatch I noticed the earliest moment you could reasonably guess that twist

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||which is that Miles' real window opens downwards but Miles fumbles on the glass for a second before pulling it upwards in the wrong world||

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"reasonably" being like, in the scene itself

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not the really great other foreshadowing

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||I love how a giant "EARTH 42" sign was on the screen for like 1 second during that go home machine segment and i just completely didnt see it||

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||I saw it and was like "oh 42! just like the numbers in spiderverse 1 on the spider! lol!"||

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||i loved the use of the visions academy theme there too||

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||she said "why'd you change your hair?" and then aaron says "why'd you take out your braids, son?"||

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speaking of that scene. oho

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||aaron pushing away miles annoyingly after the hug made me sad||

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||from the very INSTANT that miles was in the wrong world I was like "so he's the prowler in this one. it would be too evil. it has to be true. they would do that". it was baseless speculation but I was hoping it was true and then when the prowler had an untied shoe I yelped out loud||

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also the entire theater was shouting "RIZZ" during that moment

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and I mean. can't blame em

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||seeing himself as the prowler def hurt him you can see it in his face||

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he did have the rizz stare though

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so sorry for your loss

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when's the funeral

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just kidding I don't care

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hold this baby you'll be fine

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What the freak. (Wtf)

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||I like how Miles gives up trying to convince Prowler to let him go as soon as he said "your dad"||

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||like oh. this guy had his dad die but doesn't care about a second chance. we are nothing alike and i will not get through to him||

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||i wonder what they're planning to do with him though||

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||is 42 miles gonna try pulling a miguel||

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movie producers they or "they" they

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||swap worlds||

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wait a gosh darn freakin second here. wait wait wait

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||was Miles42 supposed to be Spider-Man? for the purposes of canon||

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||or was Peter Parker 42||

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||im pretty sure miles||

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then that's double messed up

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||spot ruined BOTH miles' lives||

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it really sucks

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||also that scene got such a real laugh from me
"I created you. You created me. We're bound by destiny."
"Spider-Man, why'd you make this guy?"
"I didn't! At least, I don't think so."
the judgement in his dad's voice lmao||

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i loved that line

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Good humor. No way.

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this movie has a lot of lines i just like repeating actually

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It’s still so shocking to me

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the film has so many good jokes

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this film is so good period

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its a metaphor for capitalism

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you will piss your pants the first time through though

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just from runtime

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||miguel calling lego peter one of their best killed me in the theatre||

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that's the biggest anomaly

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a fictional brooklyn using NYPD instead of PDNY

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Honestly out of any cameo from any spider-man in the entire movie, ||Andrew Garfield had to have hit hardest. Bro was like, CAKED in blood lmao||

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||and he's a good actor||

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||and I like andrew garfield in general||

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||let him run around in live action in the third movie please let him do it||

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theyre gonna pulla who framed roger rabbit

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||Hate that I laughed at TRex Spiderman so much||

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It can get weirder

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||cat spider man: 😐 fucking t rex spiderman: Awooga ||

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I just washed my hands that’s why they’re wet!

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...no other reason

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erm what the flip

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no way Sonic Frontiers Ninja?

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OH TKFKXHUSJS S WNY MY GOD

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You’re all EVIL

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cruel evil villains

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Imagine this guy shows up in Beyond /s

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whAt waS HiS caNOn eVenT?!??/??/

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his father died.

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his father was killed right in front of him.

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that's how the story goes.

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and died

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something something canon event spidersmad

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the person who made the first canon event meme that started the trend straight up apologized lmfao

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what is it with spider-man and having the most unfunny repetitive memes that never die

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first it was morbius and now this

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It was funny when you used fictional events as canon events.

Not so much so when you use real life tragedies

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how did canon events morph into miguel stopping you from going back in time and stopping things

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when was time travel a part of this

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it wasnt

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I blame tiktok

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hearing Spider-Man 2099 everywhere is a treat tho I won't lie

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people mistaken Canon events as something else

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that’s what that was????

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i

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morbius is a spider man villain

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Canon events are what Spider-folks have to go through

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WHAT...

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I genuinely did not know that

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thats alr lol

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morbius shows up in a lot of the spiderman comics

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I thought they made him up

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hes rly obscure

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think his biggest role ever has been in the spider-man 3 movie tie in game

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Can't wait for Sony to make a Paul Movie for the venomverse

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paul

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I thought Sony is taking Spiderman Antagonist and giving them their own solo film.

Can't wait to see how bad would a Paul Movie be

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||ok back to spiderverse i KNOW miles is breaking out with the "dont watch the mouth, watch the hands" thing||

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||i feel like this one's gonna start with a fight/chase scene||

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wonder if ||Prowler Miles is gonna be a jerk but with some good in him||

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||he's still miles so i doubt he's fully evil||

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||the sinister 6 cartel are running around in brooklyn so i feel like 1610 miles will have a moral obligation to deal with that first before going to save his dad||

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big big movie ending spoilers
has anyone done this yet

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leo can i ban you.

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I don’t even know how I’m supposed to react to this…

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what did sony mean by this

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it's a joke

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so you can laugh at it

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oh okay

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something like "BAJSDBJBFAJSDHFSDJFH NOOOOOOOO" is the canon response

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so the universe will collapse if i dont do that

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more or less

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go back in time and

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BAJSDBJBFAJSDHFSDJFH NOOOOOOOOO

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could’ve just copied and pasted it now that I think about it

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yona...

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oh shoot I remmeber that trailer

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? it's the same images

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I’m supposed to be the fastest thijg alive…

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||BUT I WAS TOO SLOW TO SAVE MY BUDDY||

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lmao

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not a canon event

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cuz it didn't happen

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||miguel is the anomaly here...||

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where is Luke D

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wait no even longer this came out a year ago

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I just had the most extreme painful Deja Vu of all time

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I need you to understand that for a brief second I vividly saw actual messages on my screen that weren't there

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I can remember them I will tell you what they said

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From: Luke D.
Okay I know you all know it's a joke but seeing canon event memes used even ironically pisses me off. You're furthering them! They're only going to mutate into much unfunnier things and the movie's legacy is going to be tainted

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I saw this as if he actually said it. it was scary

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I don't know if he actually thinks this 😭 no slander intended I think I just hallucinated

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you just peered into another dimension's luke d

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that guy was mad

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# strange remnant Oh speaking of this (I will bring my point up somehow soon)

||Miguel is SO compelling. Miguel technically having a point makes the scenes with him so much better dudeee. He’s seen this (what Miles is doing) before. He’s tried it. It didn’t work out. He’s trying to help this ā€œstubborn bratā€ (to him at least), because he’s not willing to risk it all again. But to Miles he’s tired of being told about what his story will be, and him believing he can make a change because letting someone die to succumb to an algorithm is also in the right. So it creates these two unwavering forces that aren’t wrong in what they believe in and that’s so cool. Miles is trying to like, surpass the typical spiderman story, but Miguel thinks this will break everything. Miles wants to tell his own story, not a Spiderman story.||

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I don’t have the speech bubble one.

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apparently this movie was incredibly and extremely comics accurate to Miguel

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this is exactly how he should be behaving, they captured him perfectly

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which is amazing because he's the protagonist of his series lmao!

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WAIT THATS SICK

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||they really found a great scenario for making him into a compelling antagonist||

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AND ||its even better because of his whole ā€œsticking to formula idealsā€||

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it's crazy that all of this ||was built in like, a year and two months. he made the first transdimentional jump just a day or two after Spiderverse 1.||

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||The timeline is a little fuzzy because like. How did he found spider society and know Peter B, BUT ALSO try to replace other Miguel? Wouldn't his clear and blatant absence be noticed if he was part of that society while replacing his other self?||

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||Miguel O'Hara, leader of the Spider Multiverse: ok so I'm just gonna, like. go into another world and replace someone there. nobody follow me or ask what's up lol||

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||im guessing he got a few other spidermen to let but thats just an assumption||

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||he was also probably only able to replace himself for like a month with the 1 year timeline which sucks||

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lol! lmao even!

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hm I don't like how that joke has shaped up

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ppft

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I'm going to delete it because I don't like any sideways implications it makes stuckinanotherdimension

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||nah but imagine knowing you're the reason a whole universe collapsed, or at least think you are, that amount of pressure could form a diamond||

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sorry don’t know what I was gonna say

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Miguel was right to form rules and create boundaries

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He was wrong to give up on exploring the extent of those boundaries

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||His own personal fear for the multiverse clouds his ability to rely on others||

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||do you guys know about the master weaver||

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||Granted I don’t think Miguel is doing this for Miles’ mental sake more than it’s just ā€œi don’t want to risk anymore of thisā€ but it’s still another layer that’s really cool||

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no of course you didn't say that

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i was hallucinating

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yeah

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He might be in Beyond

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I was just wondering if the core behind it lined up with how you feel

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||he maintains the web of life and destiny, and miguel literally name drops that in the spider verse explanation||

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i dont feel itll devalue the movie even if it comes from people who misunderstand the film

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||they might cook with him all im saying||

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I DID say a while ago that spideys entire rogues gallery would eventually become a laughing stock if sony kept making these worthless spin off films tho

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fair enough

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This is not a Peter B situation

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I think ||Miguel still have no idea how the events work. Earth 42 is like a nail in the coffin for me- it is still there despite no Spiderman.||

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Wdym Morbius i- no I don’t even want to joke about it being good

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however even then people are just angry about the kraven desifgn rather than making jokes about it

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but i dont know what these rules really are, or if there're even any

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erm... not to be THAT guy, but uh... ||filler text get rickrolled idiot uhhh filler text VoidNerdina ||

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his own dimension is where the pider society is

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||Yeah, that's got nothing to do with Canon Events. Does it?||

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||i hope when someone reveals the true rules of the spiderverse in beyond it gives me that "BRUH OH MY GOD" click feeling||

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||it might be implied that other people have tried doing that too? bc miguel did say something like "we've all seen it" or something along those lines right||

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||the real thing causing the glitching is like, the AI Purah girl||

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||unless he's just referring to the other spider people who helped him in that dimension||

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||lyla is behind everything||

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||also the world wasn't glitching because of Miles saving the captain, it was dissolving because of the Spot. so there's no actual real in-movie evidence that disrupting canon events is bad besides what Miguel himself showcased||

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||I don't doubt it, but it means that for the viewer, we can only trust what info Miguel has||

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Wonder if we are gonna get a Spiderverse vs Inheritors movie after Beyond

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||THE BLACK STUFF SPREADING WAS CLEARLY THE SPOT STUFF not a quantum hole||

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||if Miguel was deceived then he can be an unwitting antagonist||

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basically there's room for them to interpret things in different ways

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||except for the part where he grabs MIles' head and slams him into a truck sixteen times. that was kind of villainy||

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||we literally saw the spot delete a sign near the start of a movie he can do that||

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Do you guys think after Beyond we'll get an Inheritors vs Spiderverse movie?

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no even if he was deceived miguel was still a full on antagonist

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# random oak I think ||Miguel still have no idea how the events work. Earth 42 is like a nail...

Purely spitballing (think I used that word right here) but ||even though the world still exists despite the lack of a spiderman, isn’t that moreso because there’s no anomalies? The only one we know for certain that’s there is non braids Miles. This also does make it confusing on Miguel’s beliefs of Miles being the original anomaly since he’s the reason’s Parker is dead and Miles replaced him, but I think it’s because Miles has always been in his universe whereas Miguel (anomaly) saw a world where he died and tried to replace himself in that world. That’s what I assume the first multiverse jump thing was, at least||

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drew would be moreso the unknowing antagonist

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||i do expect to see the master weaver though||

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||Miguel's technical term for the huge branching web of dimensions refers ONLY to spider people, not regular people. Miles "Tails" Prowler isn't spider-man. there IS no 42 spider-man. so there's no contradiction||

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idk i think all the ||canon event stuff is weird bc it really depends on how far you zoom out||

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||but miles existing in his own Earth should be causing problems that it clearly isn't yet||

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||wait are we talking about the same miles.||

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||ppl should be calling the miles in earth 42 morales smh||

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immorales

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||no call him kilometers immorales||

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||Miguel's world's corruption was very quick (comparatively speaking). it happened soon enough that for the 6 months Pavitr was part of the society (the longest time frame we have confirmed from any character i think) the rules of the canon were established and strictly enforced. why is Miles fine after a year and two months?||

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||it's because AI purah killed Miguel's world so she would be his only sidechick||

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||is it confirmed pavitr has been part of the society for 6 months? i thought 6 months referred to the amount of time he has actually been spider man||

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||spot goes back in time with his powers to cause all of this ||

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he had rly capable traveling abilities just in his base form

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||so imagine what he could be capable of now that he looks like a silent hill 2 monster||

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then the longest confirmed time frame is four months minimum

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||Gwen knows Hobie for four months, Hobie has been there longer||

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thats probably what most of them are doing

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I do think what ||Miguel’s saying must have some merit to it because like what was up with his entire dimension just getting deleted?? It’s just weird to know for certain what an anomaly does vs what Spot does||

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Because if someone comes to you and say "Even if you tried to save someone you lost, your world will collasped." I'm sure most are gonna use that excuse

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||a lot of people are saying that spectacular and insomniac spiderman helping miguel is out of character but we dont actually know the context of how they were recruited||

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||that's the difference Miguel doesn't notice||

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||Do you think they were gonna, like. dispose of miles||

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||if it started causing problems||

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||also wouldnt miguel taking these people out of their base universes for the spider society be like rly fucking bad? It's implied gwen was gone from her universe for like 3 months in that short time and her father quit his job because of it

so what if dr octopus succesfully makes the head explode virus and spreads it while spider-dr is at the society or whatever unable to stop it||

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it could be that ||it's less harmful to the dimensional fabric of that universe or whatever bc miles himself always existed within there||

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brain hurting šŸ’€ šŸ’€ šŸ’€

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||like the reason miguel could have made everything shit was because he literally did not come from that world to begin with||

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and that's different from how ||miles is an "anomaly" to what was supposed to happen||

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and I realize something.

||On the off chance that if Miles successfully prevent the death of his father and his dimension didn't collaspe, then it's the end of their coping mechanicism with the canon event.|| Maybe ||that's why would Miguel try to stop him.||

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||he's so pressed about what Miles did to jumpstart the anomalies but the reason he had them cut all ties to miles' earth (1984? whatever it's called) is because it's not actively doing anything||

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||just leave the weird imposter kid alone and it'll be fine||

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1610 VoidNerdina

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miguel in general aside from like maybe shattered dimensions was always shown as a colder more calculated statistics based spiderman

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hes not focuse on helping individual people like most peters

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which isnt bad on its own, he looks at the big picture

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||part of me wishes superior spiderman was in this movie as well i'd like to see his take on this||

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||but when you combine that with the incident he caused and you have a srsly fucked up bitter individual||

strange remnant
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yeah honestly i feel hes the best spiderman in any media rn

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miles is absolutely crushing the competition right now

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the closest he has is insomniac peter which isnt saying much lmao

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yes

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actually there's something i never understood about into the spider verse that i realize still isn't any clearer

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at least to me, maybe there's an explanation

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||how was gwen already in miles's world before miles's peter was pushed into the collider particle stream||

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||like i get that they were using the collider before what we see in the movie||

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||"I was blown into last week... literally!"||

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||but i thought peter being pushed into it was what caused the other spider men to be summoned||

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||the force of the blast actually sent her back in time lol||

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they show time rewinding as she swings around a lightpost

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oh

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lol

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||lemme be J. Jonah because I want pictures of spider-plushie||

lyric nacelle
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i guess i suck at catching details then!

inner elbow
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you sucked at the detail of you sucking at catching details cuz pal we knew that

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universe wanted her to go back in time specifically for no reason

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PLEASE

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maybe I am the bad guy

scarlet turtle
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(Crickets)

inner elbow
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nah but don't forget that I just watched spiderverse two times two days apart

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this is what happens when you dont hold the baby

inner elbow
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SO TRUE IN FACT

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oh love miles' new suit btw

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I've seen mixed reactions

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I just enjoy it

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i thought there was an overwhelming amount of black before, but it grew on me

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Like an official version

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šŸ’Ŗ
🩸

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||havent forgotten peter lowkey insulting his suit||

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||"dont worry about the suit we're gonna get you a new suit"||

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Bleedin from the armpits

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why were they all so mean about it šŸ˜”

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projecting because their suits stink.

inner elbow
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Its because miles is a little freak

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He's just a smelly little guy with no fashion sense

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In a way it calls back to the untied shoe gag of the first movie

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Imma do my own thing hours

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||WHERE WAS NIC CAGE||

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dammit you posted already

inner elbow
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as spot's biggest fan you gotta arrive to the party however late

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i was busy

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i now have a spot reaction png though

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that's funny

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(sometimes it isnt a png which is weird)

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I found what to fill them with! more holes!

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"that doesnt make any sense!"
"it will!"

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that right there

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that's what I loved about the spot the most

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he was silly and nervous and all that

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but whenever miles made a quip he ALWAYS got the last word

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and it was always scary

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I love how the spot doesn’t shut up

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Like bro keeps running his mouth

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||ā€kick to the face! You weren’t expecting that were you! Neither was I, I’m in the zone!ā€ He straight up talks to himself while fighting||

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Hypothesis

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I’m going to put my head in that hole

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hellooo!

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scream

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peak comedy

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I don’t believe in comedy

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Just kidding

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||I love that how are you line||

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||he politely says hello to Spider-Man, rudely gets kicked in the stomach and STILL says how are you, he’s so nice I can’t believe Miles smh||

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||me beating up people who say they didnt like spot||

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also ||his fighting during this scene is so cool, hes outmaneuvering goddamn spider-man||

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Just saw Across the Spider Verse, pacing in a few places feels a LITTLE too fast, but it's still a masterpiece

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And I'm not gonna lie: the last 20 or so minutes was better than the entirety of Into the Spider Verse

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So yeah, 9/9, watch it right f*cking now

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thoughts on the greatest villain ever

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Really fun and at the same time threatening villian

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||i had to see it so now all of you do||

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I love ||Spider-Punk so much he may not be the craziest character but his chaotic neutral antics and how he’s animated is just so coooool dude. Love how he teaches Miles to really get the most of his shock stuff and it’s what starts the chase scene it makes it so much better||

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like there's this photo of him next to doc ock in his apartment and he has a beard there

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Both movies have such great shots but this particular one from the first one stays with me a lot

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Especially since I keep hearing how they scripted it like the wording of ā€œThe camera is upside down because as Miles is falling he is risingā€ is just so good and everything about that specific interaction too its all so good

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His more parkour based Spiderman antics in that moment and apparently the fact that at that moment he was animated at 24FPS???? Because apparently he was animated at 12FPS unlike all the other Spider people to show he wasn’t ready or was inexperienced ??? God that’s so good

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Oh my god it just hit me

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leo you are the essence of evil

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Such a sick design though

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🄯

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UpsmhshvaAYSUAOL

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I have to end you.

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Spot speech bubble image

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Wow, that sure hit the -

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Eating a bagel rn

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yo make sure not to throw any bagels. real waste. might hit a person too

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I'm chucking it

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mf stop wasting yo bagels

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smh my head

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I ate it after

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ok

inner elbow
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Why did Aunt May kick open her own back porch door in the first movie

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What did she accomplish besides looking really cool

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She styled on the opposition and to be fair what’s cooler than tha-

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Did you run out of T usage for the day. Did you hit your T limit

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It's okay you can have one of mine

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She styled on the opposition and to be fair what’s cooler than that

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She was just taking them to the shed 😭

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There aint opps to style

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She styled on the opposition and to be fair what’s cooler than that…

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REAL

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I just wonder because she obviously cares for the house

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Oh hey a thought

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What do you think Miles and MJ's relationship is

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He probably didn't tell her about his identity but I feel like he'd want to talk about Peter

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Ask about how he spider-manned

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You know that's sweet

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Feel like they’d get like a motherly connection that’s more casual

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He swings by to say hey

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I'm glad Aunt May left town cuz that would be dicey for her

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wait am. I

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Oh

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I was thinking of Aunt May to begin with oops

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But I still think MJ and Miles would have that type of relationship

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Lol you know that makes the motherly comment more sensical

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I was going to make a mommy joke but figured a third person referential post was safer

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I don't disagree but I think he'd try to stay distant from her in a way

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Miles would probably wonder if this Peter had struggles like him or something and she’d go ā€œyeah he is stupid i hate him i shouldve divorcedā€ and then peter appears and goes ā€œhold the babyā€ and then everyone laughs until tears fall

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They're kind of worlds apart

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ROLL CREDITS

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mayday's first words are "wake up in the mornin feelin like p diddy"

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Hu? H

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Huh?

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Am I forgetful

inner elbow
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Read it again

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Who is mayday

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😭

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Mayday Parker

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Hold on

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The baby?

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The baby

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OHHHHHHH

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never knew her name

inner elbow
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He named his baby after his emotional state

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HEHDVSKA

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evil. I think you should hold the baby and calm down pal.

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@wintry sparrow get in here and finish your message you're going to give me an aneurysm

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I love you and want to hear what you have to say and you WILL indulge me

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(Glaringly unfitting chase music plays)

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Forget what this is reference grfn g

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Referencing

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The first message is because Meeper was typing

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The second message is me expressing friendship through humor

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The third is ||the Peter B Parker scene "hold the baby"||

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Oh! I have forgotten. That makes more sense (the third one)

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Yes

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Miguel just needs to hold the baby

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You notice his kindest moment was after holding mayday

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I really like how this movie implies that the cast hung out a little bit in the first movie that we didn't get to see

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||like how miles knows about Gwen's dad-- they must have chatted on the bus!!||

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||oh to see the bus chat in spiderverse 1||

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I wish we got to see them just chilling more

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That’s why i love that very short scene in aunt May’s house

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into the spiderverse

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SMH

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Lies

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projection

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He was I saw it

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Share your thoughts anyways

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I SAW HIM IN THE THEATER YEAH

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I RECOGNIZED HIM IMMEDIATELY

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i completely missed him

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Oh my god, I am so glad this scene was cut

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This would have ruined not only the scene, but everything the movie was building up to

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LMFAO

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damn this is kinda funny lmao

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that's hilarious

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Glad it's not in the movie definitely but

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it's hilarious

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it doesnt at all yeah

inner elbow
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this looks like a fun watch

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damn a lot of people think miles is dying

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The entire movie is building up to Miles finally succeeding at that leap of faith, and by ruining that, you ruin 80% of the movie

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Again, out of context it's funny

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But in context, it f*cking sucks

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thank god it was removed haha

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I want miles to die

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i think he has too many good things

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(sarcasm)

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he's not a relatable spider-man. too happy

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bro is jealous he's not spider man

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if i was spider-man I would simply ||let my dad die to maintain the canon|| yalikedeepfriedjazz

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You'd be a horrible Spider Man

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i would be such a terrible spider man

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wrong!

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you can wear the mask

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if you didn't know that, i hope you do now

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Doesn't mean I should

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i'd have to find the crime nothing really happens here šŸ’€

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okay then you can be Chat Noir YaLikeJazz

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i'll stop speeding cars

drifting haven
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I actually live in a pretty tame place

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if I got spider-man powers right now I would move to new york

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it just would not be the same if i didn't

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good idea

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I wouldn't

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i'd go down town

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Truth be told, I'd just try and keep my life as normal as possible

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there arent any super villains here

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yet at least

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with great power comes great fear of centralized government

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My thought process is, if somehow there are radioactive spiders that turn people into spider-man, there's realistic fear of other mutants and stuff

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so maybe a spider-man would actually be needed

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the very catalyst of power speaks to other power out there

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If I was spider-man I’d be a villain

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Well then, let it be someone with competence and not me

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leo would stop you

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That’s it there’s no bit I just need to take out all my rage on the world that has wronged me (no soup box 2)

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if you got your powers then presumably you were in the place with the spider

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so stick around wherever you were at the time (pun intended)

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i'd have to make a cool costume

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making the web shooters would be like, unrealistically hard

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fr lol

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that's the only hitch in the plan

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i'd be climbing only spider man

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to be fair, sticking and gymnastics gets you most of the way

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but I want web shooters

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I don't want to be weird biotic webs tobey tho i would take no webs over those webs

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web shooters are cool

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you'd need a Nile Red lab

inner elbow
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but hey, if we're talking about this like it's real, getting webs is part of the canon in some way

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I’d make my own by

inner elbow
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you would

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if you became spider-man, no matter who I'm referring to, you WOULD find a way to get webs

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that's a thing you would necessarily do no matter how difficult it seems right now

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I’m glad you know how dedicated I am at protecting Earth. šŸ™‚

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you would make your webs to kill people

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and I mean specifically you this time

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Falsehoods. Lies. Blasphemy.

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if I was spider-man it's like. I'd keep my powers a secret until they were needed but I would absolutely get the costume ready lol

strange remnant
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I’m a kind god.

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I’d allow do-overs.

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how

strange remnant
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nah I'm too scared of big spaces

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oh yeah btw

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WHO COUGHS AT THE START OF THE MOVIE

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there's a very clear "Cough!" that pops up in the bottom right before even the studio logos appear

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is that just to alert everyone that it's starting or is it supposed to mean something

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I think it's just something the editors snuck in as a little easter egg

inner elbow
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lol fair

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I thought that was my theater????

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Hello???

inner elbow
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you didn't see the cough?

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or you thought it was yours exclusive?

lyric nacelle
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bro gaslighting people into going to the theater for the 5th time

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Leo is so scary because sometimes he’s like ā€œyeah I had to paint my house it really SUCKED (somehow a pun related to the event)ā€ and then other times he puts me in these MENTAL MINDGAMES I don’t know how to WIN

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I swear. My movie coughed

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The people either knew or were the movie cough.

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those are the voices

inner elbow
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yes everybody's movie coughed

strange remnant
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No way… echolocation…

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ECHO echo ech-- okay no echo

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Saddest betrayal in the movie

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ogh I love the spot

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I love gwen

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i love pavitr

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hobie... is fine. not enough screen time but he's funny

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||(he has more screen time than pavitr leosus )||

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Love hobie i lovr him

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He is literally me

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(We are both gay and hate capitalism with a burning passion)

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Also yeah about earlier I feel everything about spiderverse that was changed and cut was for the better

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The original leaked storyboard version where gankie was more of a character was kind of boring and safe imo

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Who???

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Plus while I love the concept art a lot of it is way too realistic for what the movies tone and everything is going for

lyric nacelle
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# strange remnant Who???

Miles roommate and best friend in the comics
He’s in the movie but only as a small one scene character and was originally gonna have a bigger role

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Oh

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Fun fact he was the main number 1 inspiration for Ned in the mcu

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Good I’m glad he’s not big

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lol

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||bro was too busy gaming to call the cops on the spot|| 😭

inner elbow
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they actually had to cut gankie out BECAUSE of the MCU

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Tbh

inner elbow
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he stepped too close to Ned and the whole Hobgoblin thing they're doing with him

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I’m glad for that

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|| good cow :) 🫳 🐮 ||

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Ned in the mcu is one of the best parts of the whole trilogy iMO

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I don't know if I agree because I like spider-man with a "guy in the chair" but Miles' loneliness makes ATS work and I like ATS

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It can definitely work

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But it really needs to be done well

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And not zeb wells norman

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oh yeah when can we get sandman in spiderverse btw

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love that guy

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I feel so bad for sandman Spider-Man 3 was the last big role he had in like anything

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In the insomniac universe he’s just straight up sealed away forever in one of peters forgotten backpacks

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Plus he had the least screen time of anyone in no way home iirc

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I love sandman conceptually so funny

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what if my hand was a big hammer and i hit you

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what if I dropped you in a pool and you dissolved

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YEAH

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hilarious duality

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tbh it always scared me when they did the whole "omg lead him to water" and then he comes back Bigger

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spiderman: where can you find more water than the ocean?
(one scene later)
spiderman, running away: I FORGOT (car slams into ground behind him) THAT THE OCEAN (concrete erupts in front of him) HAS SAND

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Poseidon quivers before him

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Peter after knocking sandman into the Mariana Trench

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And then he comes out bigger than the damn planet

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Galactus sand man

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Someone in another server I’m in thought that Spider-Man sandman was the same as like the mythical sleep helping sandman so she was always confused why he was fighting him snbshshshjsjsjdj

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LOL

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thinking about spider-man battling sleep has me circling back around to "what if I was spider-man" and like yall

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I would get paid šŸ’€

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like not per bounty or whatever, I would try to keep it very much "allow gratitude to fund me" but

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I could NOT do what peter does and have a real job

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I’d take a dump in a coffee can

inner elbow
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you what

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I’d make it a mystery

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Who’s this EVIL spider person

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Make it a manhunt, set up stands to earn money for causing kerfunkles and misery

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YEAH

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do the inverse peter parker where he gets "exclusive pictures"

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you set yourself up to get caught by yourself

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earn bigger and more elaborate government funds as your methods prove effective

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while ALSO living off the money and valuables you steal

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why am I helping you with this wtf you're evil

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You get me with this!

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no

strange remnant
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Wait whoa not the evil part

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no I don't want to

strange remnant
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I’m not evil

inner elbow
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YOU'RE EVIL?

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I’m doing it for a good cause

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oh

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you know that's fair

strange remnant
inner elbow
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oh you're spider-punk

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wait that's sick

strange remnant
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This is just me. My plans might seem dastardly, but I just need to redistribute the wealth of this world

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Spider Verse style with Peni’s giant mech hm it appears I am simply the best spiderman of all

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oh im

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stupid

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Spider Punk’s style with Peni’s giant mech hm it appears I am simply the best spiderman of all…

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lmao

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you're like

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robin hood but a spider

strange remnant
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Yeah it’s so cool right?

inner elbow
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no

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it's evil

strange remnant
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Eventually, I’ll probably have the grand power to bring forth the changes this world needs.

strange remnant
inner elbow
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that's not how evil works yona kirbwah

strange remnant
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Every time you leave that last bit out you make me seem like some heartless being…

inner elbow
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evil is evil

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don't you want to know what I saw in there?

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I know what you're trying to do, and it won't work. They're gone.

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That’s different. He was clearly evil. I am a good person!

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I once again must plaster my logo onto the wall for you to see

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LMAOOOO

strange remnant
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turbid echo
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Mat pat trying to be Miguel so hard

inner elbow
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also the thumbnail is largely disconnected from the video lol

strange remnant
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Classic MatPat

inner elbow
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also I liked it

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you should watch it it's fun

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and goes over precisely what i been saying (is what why I liekd it lol)

strange remnant
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Wait wgat gave you been sauing

inner elbow
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miguel is dead wrong about canon events

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in nearly every way it's inconsistent

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he's just too afraid because of what happened to him

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The spiderman is imminent

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He will arrive in 30 minutes or less

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This is true

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Maybe

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oh nah he's for sure wrong

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he is a human trying to understand the infinite void

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aka marvel editorial

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and i think deep down he knows that he doesnt have all the answers too

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but ||after what happened with his faux-universe it's understandable that he doesnt want to risk it||

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||How did it take me watching the film theory to realize that supaidaman was the Japanese TV-show spiderman ForgorDeluxe||

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||bro’s just super paranoid about deleting another universe ||

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||his unhinged-ness is understandable but he’s still wrong as hell||

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that's so cool actually

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||I love how directly antagonistic and even villainous he is while being a faithful recreation of his protagonistic self||

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# inner elbow WHO COUGHS AT THE START OF THE MOVIE

it's apparently an in-joke with the video editors and producers https://twitter.com/alliterandy/status/1667737416432758784

Fun #AcrossTheSpiderVerse Fact! 🧵

Did you catch the very first first image of the film? It’s not the Sony logo! It’s a COUGH onomatopoeia card synced to the signature @philiplord @chrizmillr COUGH. The visual was born from a semi joke/pitch I created…

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oh my gosh that's so cute I love it

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Damn that's a fucking movie

inner elbow
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nice

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So i just watched Across the spiderverse and I gotta say

Honestly best movie I’ve seen

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Actually i was under the impression that everyone who appears in the @ menu is in the thread but i just checked and that is not the case meowtactic i am so sorry if you were not already in the thread i thought you were

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but you got to see a funny gif so really worth it .

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BASED gif thank you

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I love the :True: react

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True…

lavish sparrow
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Lmao

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||I don’t know which one is worse, Miles Prowler or this||

lavish sparrow
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lavish sparrow
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What’s that guy’s name?

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Like, his spider-self

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I forget

inner elbow
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I don't think he dropped a spider name

lavish sparrow
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So what do we call him then

inner elbow
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Pavitr

lavish sparrow
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Pavitr

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Probably one of my favorite characters tbh

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He’s funny and quite awesome

inner elbow
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real

round fossil
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Or India Spider Man

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Idk but calling him Pavitr is better

lavish sparrow
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Pavitr is based

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spider-man india is his name yeah

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pavitr when the mask's off poggurai

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love that guy

lavish sparrow
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His yo-yo

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Truly one of my top 3 spiders

lavish sparrow
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I just remembered the part where Miguel says that all the spider-people should go catch spider man

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And then all the spider people start pointing at each other like

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That one meme

sour crystal
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yes

rancid cloud
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but comics wise he's called Spider-Man India, like how Gwen is Spider-Woman in-universe but called Spider-Gwen

lavish sparrow
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Oh

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I see

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Im gonna call him Pavitr though, since its shorter

rancid cloud
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yeah that's fair

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spindia

lavish sparrow
rancid cloud
lyric nacelle
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@wintry sparrow

wintry sparrow
sour crystal
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Aunt Norma

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she's old and shes got grey hair

sour crystal
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does she remember when trees were everywhere, and no one had to pay for air?

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"šŸŽµ You may know me, my name is spot..I'm just the alchemax bagel cafeteria guy..šŸŽµ "

sour crystal
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LMAOOOO

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please put me down before i make more of these

sour crystal
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stop cooking

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turn off the stove

inner elbow
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@solemn anchor hi hello

wintry sparrow
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i didn't see anyone post this yet

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Win....

inner elbow
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This movie is getting delayed for another two years man

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Have you seen the dev commentary on twitter for this mf

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In one shot they needed THREE HOBIES OVERLAID AND SCRAMBLED to get the effect they wanted

wintry sparrow
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hobie supports the wga writer's strike by delaying every movie hes in for 3 years more

inner elbow
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There's also the famous "hobie under the stage" where they hid a Hobie out of shot but pulled his guitar up and put it on the main Hobie

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So that they could separate its baked in outlines from the other

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As if he wasn't already the most visually disruptive mf

lavish sparrow
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Hobie has such a cool animation style tbh

inner elbow
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Love him

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Love this movie

lavish sparrow
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Same

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Hobie pleasantly surprised me

solemn anchor
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how is this movie real

lavish sparrow
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The way Pavitr and Gwen were talking about him and then his introduction like

solemn anchor
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i just finished watching it lol

lavish sparrow
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Instant s tier personality

inner elbow
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It's not real wake up

sour crystal
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"i dont believe in teams"
"werent you in a band?"
"i dont believe in consistency"

lavish sparrow
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Hobie has such an amazing personality

sour crystal
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"for the record, i quit" lmao

lavish sparrow
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ā€œKid’s an anarchistā€

wintry sparrow
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"I hate the AM, I hate the PM" was a lot funnier of a line 20 minutes after i saw the movie when it clicked that by PM he means the prime minister

inner elbow
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Taking a crap on the establishment I saLUTE you

sour crystal
inner elbow
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That line is literary gold Meeper

lavish sparrow
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Was anyone else surprised by Peter B Parker having a child?

sour crystal
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the spot is still my favorite character but hobie is second place ngl

lavish sparrow
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And the child actually acting like spider man mini

sour crystal
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lol

lavish sparrow
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I didn

inner elbow
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Gah I hate thinking about that scene where Hobie shows up because HOW DO YOU THINK MILES FEELS. How do you think he's going to feel when he looks back at that moment 😭 I can't think about it I feel so bad

lavish sparrow
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Yeah same

wintry sparrow
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was so scared about hobie when they were talking about how there'd be a miles gwen hobie love triangle when in reality that's literally not a thing why did they say that

sour crystal
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hobie is THE homie

scarlet turtle
lavish sparrow
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I’d like to be friends with him

inner elbow
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When I saw the memes I was like oh is Hobie going to belittle miles? He's kind of rough and wild

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And then in the movie every word he says to miles is like I love you little man you're the goat keep fighting here have a gun

lavish sparrow
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Yeah

wintry sparrow
lavish sparrow
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Dude Hobie fucking carried the movie

lavish sparrow
inner elbow
wintry sparrow
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OH that 😭

sour crystal
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spot seems like he would be a fun person to hang with if hes not ||trying to kill your dad||

inner elbow
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I've seen the movie twice and the choreography in the fight is like, miles fighting alone while the others do combo moves

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That's unfair

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lavish sparrow
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Bro spot went insane after Miles said ā€œyou’re an everyday villainā€

inner elbow
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(During the scene where they save civilians from the falling rubble they work together with miles tho)

sour crystal
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villain of the week

lavish sparrow
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Yup

wintry sparrow
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i think that's where it set in for miles yknow. ||the fact that gwen peter b and everyone else from ITSV could have visited him at any time but chose not to||

inner elbow
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YES

wintry sparrow
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poor kid kirbwah

inner elbow
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and it doesn't have time to sink in because

sour crystal
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BRO I WAS SO SAD WHEN I REALIZED THAT

inner elbow
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Cosmic horrors beyond my comprehension jumpscare

lavish sparrow
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Yup

inner elbow
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I think the real hardest scene is Hold The Baby

lavish sparrow
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Yes

inner elbow
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His first friend, and now his last remaining friend

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sour crystal
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||"you do NOT have my location"||

lavish sparrow
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Also, you guys remember when Miles heard about Miguel and said ā€œArent vampires usually the bad guyā€

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And then well

arctic slate
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in fact across was supposed to have a scene in that world where you could see gwen and hobie jamming out on a concert

lavish sparrow
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Miguel turned out to be a bad guy?

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Foreshadowing

arctic slate
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well hes not a bad guy, hes a complicated guy

lavish sparrow
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True

arctic slate
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he wants to do a good thing but misguided due to his grief

inner elbow
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He slams miles' head into a train six times

lavish sparrow
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Lmao

wintry sparrow
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he's a bad guy in terms of the story but this does not mean he is bad guy?

sour crystal
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lmao

lavish sparrow
arctic slate
lavish sparrow
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But like

inner elbow
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If I slam your head into a train just the once I think I would be a bad guy to you YaLikeJazz

lavish sparrow
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Didn’t miles already have his canon event

wintry sparrow
scarlet turtle
lavish sparrow
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Uncle aaron

scarlet turtle
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i definitely think hes a not great person now but like there's a reasonable sympathetic reason for that

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he went mad with grief

wintry sparrow
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I LOVE ANTAGONISTS THAT AREN'T VILLAINS
I WANT TO SEE FOILS TO THE HERO THAT BELIEVE THEIR CAUSE IS JUST

inner elbow
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I've said it a few times but the way they seamlessly translate Miguel into this movie without compromising any of his traits-- turning a protagonist into an antagonist with no sacrifice of morals or motivation-- that's script genius

sour crystal
arctic slate
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yeah and its obviously building up to his redemption where he sees error of his ways and starts to change

sour crystal
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there are multiple

arctic slate
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they needed a central antagonistic figure for big climax for part 1 and all

lavish sparrow
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So

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Miguel is like

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The antagonist who’s also an antihero?

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But spot is the main antagonist?

inner elbow
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Spot is the villain

lavish sparrow
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Uh

inner elbow
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Miguel is an antagonist

sour crystal
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spot is the overarching villain/antagonist

lavish sparrow
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Okay….

scarlet turtle
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Spot is peak

lavish sparrow
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Okay i think this makes sense

sour crystal
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can confirm

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i still think kingpin is a better villain due to his complexity and not disappearing from the story halfway through but that's not saying much

lavish sparrow
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Maybe spot stays consistent in Beyond the spiderverse

arctic slate
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well tbf it wasnt spot's movie basically. im sure he will shine more the next movie

sour crystal
lavish sparrow
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Yeah

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Also

sour crystal
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or just immediately start wrecking everyone

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idk

lavish sparrow
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Did anyone here get surprised by Miles ||Being the prowler in earth 42||

sour crystal
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yes

scarlet turtle
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Ye

sour crystal
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i wasnt surprised by ||him being revealed to enter the wrong universe||

lavish sparrow
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I connected the dots as soon as uncle aaron said ā€œi’m not the prowlerā€

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i thought he was black cat at first lmao

sour crystal
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huh???

lavish sparrow
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Who???

sour crystal
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HUH?????

scarlet turtle
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that would’ve been

lavish sparrow
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Who is black cat?

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||LIKE NOT WHEN HE TOOK THE MASK OFF OBVIOUSLY but like when he jumped miles on the roof||

wintry sparrow
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one of spidey's love interests from the comics

lavish sparrow
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Ohhhhhhh

scarlet turtle
lavish sparrow
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That would’ve been interesting

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What would your spider-names be

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I just keep thinking about what mine would be and I just have the idea ā€œSpider Foxā€

inner elbow
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Spider Nah

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Gonna go teach high school economics

lavish sparrow
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Spider Economist

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