[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

[celest grove]

was he dead

was he teleported

we had no idea

[floral mantle]

I see... they left it open ended

[leaden terrace]

i was referring to the hyper zone and 02 floor

[vocal latch]

The Japanese version was far more clear by mentioning how you need to save Magolor's soul (thank you Deluxe for translating that this time)

[celest grove]

he just disappears

yes you save Magolor's soul but like

That doesn't mean he's dead

[vocal latch]

That's my point

😭

[floral mantle]

so some misintrepetation happen with Mistranslation?

[leaden terrace]

no i think they just

straight up excluded that

[vocal latch]

Yeah

[leaden terrace]

like

magolor soul is literally just

[floral mantle]

Oh yeah, they exclude a single line according to Faye's video

[leaden terrace]

"magolor is now a sad shell, nothing more than the manifestation of the crown" in the og line

[vocal latch]

OG localization

[leaden terrace]

when in the jp they literally left the singular line saying "save him!" 😭

[novel fog]

they added it, but also still put in 'possessed by the limitless power
of the Master Crown' which isn't really in JP RTDL DX description lol
idk if it matters much, but weird

[floral mantle]

what's the line Faye mentioned?

[leaden terrace]

i just said it

its something along those lines

[floral mantle]

I'll check again

alright, I see it

[vocal latch]

The translation is accurate, but they omitted the entire second sentence, which states「ぞうお と しゅうねん に とらわれたマホロアの たましいを、ときはなて！」"Free Magolor's Soul, enslaved by hatred and obsession!"

[tawdry mulch]

Killing him could be saving him. Like a zombie or something you know

Zombie magolor oh no we must free him from being zombie

[vocal latch]

but it's in the context of the crown's control lol

[junior mesa]

yeah

well it's basically a parasite at that point

taken over

[prisma island]

threw my hat into the ring

[vocal latch]

||a mistletoe ||

[junior mesa]

😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

[novel fog]

well they still say he's ruled by the limitless power, but do not specifically say of the crown like that

[vocal latch]

well the limitless power is off the crown

but good point, Deluxe omits the exceeding limit from last battle thing

which referenced Miiverse lore

man

[novel fog]

yeah, but like talking about remake description

since it sort of feels like English translation used original description a little

[ocean mauve]

having to hold back the urge

[leaden terrace]

dont let the intrusive thoughts win

[vocal latch]

100%

[novel fog]

do think it is interesting how they changed the descriptions from original to remake

like they removed the part talking about him now being the crown itself

[floral mantle]

I mean... ||It techinically happen||

[ocean mauve]

exactly

[junior mesa]

😱😱😱😱

[tawdry mulch]

||When the Tree Crown without a Ruler is a tree possessed by a crown with no ruler ||

[junior fiber]

lmao i've never seen is TA death animation

thats funny

[lofty condor]

||I love how he tries to reach out at Kirby one last time||

[junior fiber]

'Grrrrrr nooO O AHHHHH"

[leaden terrace]

"NOOOOOOOoooooooooo..."

anyway heres progress on my ||tree crown reference||

[vapid kestrel]

They wanted it to look different than the other teleporters and they had the asset already anyway

[leaden terrace]

its slowly starting to make sense now

[lofty condor]

I need to draw this dude soon

[leaden terrace]

i mightve made the ||gem apple pieces|| bigger than theyre supposed to be. ref ruined

[junior fiber]

my attempt at drawing him in 30 seconds

[jolly valve]

Yknow if Clash 3 happens, what other characters would fit as a Hammer Lord costume apart from the obvious ones like Forgo Dedede and Waning Crescent Masked Dedede. Totally not me trying to ask for ideas for my Clash 3 concept drawing whatsoever

[lofty condor]

||Tre Clown Witout e Wule||

[junior fiber]

Mustard Crenw

[novel fog]

still weird lol

[tawdry mulch]

I can practically hear his theme in this image (I'm listening to it)

[junior fiber]

im imagining a bad flute remix

[tawdry mulch]

Ermmmmmmmm... Parallel Nightmares teleport has little shards shoot out smhhh

Idk why my auto correct made that erm so long but thanks

[vocal latch]

Bonkers-based one

[novel fog]

what do you mean by little shards

[junior fiber]

i've kind of always wanted a hammer costume based off these thing tbh

[tawdry mulch]

When he teleports little triangles pop up around the magic teleporting aura

I just fought him (again) yesterday so I was like "wow little shards"

[novel fog]

oh
||they still have the circle, it just doesn't turn into shards||

this one

[floral mantle]

bring back the Gryll Beam Costume for Clash 3

[tawdry mulch]

There was a gryll beam costume

Did I wipe it from my memory

[vocal latch]

It was in concept art

[tawdry mulch]

Damn Nightmare summoning GK to that raw ass song then fucking dying is sick lmfaoo

[novel fog]

better picture, can tell they are the same here

[tawdry mulch]

I know one upload of that song is called Nightmare of a Galactic Crisis which is clever

Wish we had a real title pensive

[jolly valve]

Sword - Elfilis
Hammer - IDK
Doctor - Master Crown
Beam - Void Termina

I'd put Magolor Soul with the hammer but I don't wanna have two crowns lmao

[fathom cradle]

🤛:friendlysmile:🤜

[lost briar]

considering they made Wham Bam Rock and Dark Mind into a Hammer costume i'd honestly probably expect them to make up something for a hammer design based on someone

[tawdry mulch]

And it shall stay a concept forever

Gryll erasure every loves

[leaden terrace]

||tree crown's arms are easier to draw than i thought. just needed a lot of adjusting i only dread the roots tho.||

||i also like how its claws are shaped more like fingers/reptile-like||

[celest grove]

||you can say that the real problems are rooted deep||

[leaden terrace]

aaaaaaagh

[celest grove]

am i funny

[vapid kestrel]

?

[leaden terrace]

yes

[junior mesa]

whabam

[ocean mauve]

🤛🤜

there you go

[vocal latch]

🤛🤜

[junior fiber]

PEAK

[novel fog]

||btw does normal Gem Apple tree have the stars? just wondering, don't think I saw them on there but could be missing something||

[vocal latch]

No

[novel fog]

ah, interesting

[vocal latch]

||Maybe it'll have stars as a redesign for a new Clash||

[vapid kestrel]

[junior fiber]

makes it look like the super ability targets

[fathom cradle]

This is how dark crafter enters the main series

[junior fiber]

||funny since it gets sliced by an ultra sword||

[leaden terrace]

cant tell why theyre there either

[novel fog]

guess a little (though that uses more pointy stars)

[leaden terrace]

btw yeah here this looks so cool

[celest grove]

||It was not enough to be pointy, it needed to be more||

[leaden terrace]

||thats like 100+ edges on this bozo||

[jolly valve]

I want Clash 3 to have a Layered Armor feature

[leaden terrace]

||well actually, i think its moreso around 70||

[tawdry mulch]

Clash 3 when HR-D3 pulls up in its original form

[jolly valve]

Clash 3 when ||HR-D-Mind||

[spark lotus]

the current WR epilogue speedrun has some pretty good live commentary

[thin prairie]

i dont want a clash 3 im poor as all hell

[ocean mauve]

same

just gimme an actual game instead lol

[thin prairie]

true

7th mainline game of the year 🦾

[ocean mauve]

REAL!

[rustic trellis]

Me when clash cost 40$ and mainlines cost 60$

(Note how im saying clash cost 40$ instead of saying its f2p )

[ocean mauve]

true but it has the amount of content of a mobile game

I want an actual full game if they're going back to clash lol

[floral mantle]

Clash is fun... If you don't mind playing it in short burst rather than spent an entire day on it

but yeah, I wouldn't mind paying $19.99 for Clash Full game

[rustic trellis]

Star Allies burnt me out more than clash did, though i guess bad level design cant exist in a game with no level design

[thin prairie]

3d kirby clash...

:evil:

[floral mantle]

honestly... I don't 100% my Kirby games in one go

[rustic trellis]

TDX is the game that got me into 100% completing games

[maiden swan]

What in the hell

[astral ember]

Instead of a 3rd Kirby Clash, I really want a boss endurance. I feel like Kirby Clash comes down to doing a specific pattern of moves, but if we had a boss mode where it keeps tracks of all the abilities you use, there could be more replayability.

[vocal latch]

Kirby: Final Boss Endurance

[floral mantle]

I mean... Kirby Clash have replability?

[maiden swan]

So basically have the arena but it tracks abilities

[astral ember]

Yeah!

Ok replayability was the wrong word to use

[thin prairie]

i dont have embeds but something inspired by like the bad boss brothers puzzle would be rly cool

[vocal latch]

me when I fight King Dedede, Nightmare Wizard, Dark Matter Blade, Marx Soul, Zero, Miracle Matter, Dark Mind, Dark Nebula, Magolor Soul, Soul of Sectonia, Star Dream Soul OS and Void

[maiden swan]

I remember not ever using the highest rank gear because I was in love with the dark matter and morpho gear

[thin prairie]

it would be cool to see how they adapt gryll and drawcia to fit in a trad kirby playstyle

[maiden swan]

Watching sword hero revive someone immediately was always funny

[vocal latch]

We already have Paintra, Vividria & Soul bosses to give us a juice for a mainline Drawcia battle ig

[astral ember]

Though Clash 3 would be cool too...

||Especially if it leads to fighting "Another Dimension Magolor" that's actually just Magolor Soul from the True Arena||

[maiden swan]

Fairy Queen boss will be real

[floral mantle]

me: can we get an Obama Boss Fight?

[rustic trellis]

Final boss endurance when you finally beat void, the final boss, but suddent the arena says 0? More and you go into the door. You enter a room that, despite lava being everywhere, gives you the chills. Lava everwhere to be seen, with a single volcano in the background. Suddenly a portal appears above you, and a rather rotund enemy comes out of it. Bouncing boss battle starts playing.

[floral mantle]

how would a 2d Elfilis work?

[thin prairie]

he just will

[floral mantle]

Can we play as other characters?

[thin prairie]

endurance final boss should be mr sandbag soul

[astral ember]

Dream FRiends pls!

With Elfilis being a new Dream Friend!

[floral mantle]

if we can, lemme use Magolor against Magolor Soul

[astral ember]

**Elfilin

[maiden swan]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-shouting-tantrums-crying-girl-gif-16422563

[floral mantle]

The true Final boss is Mr. Sandbag

and then Morpho Sandbag

[astral ember]

Morpho Sandbag hahaha

[floral mantle]

let's see people try to explain that

[maiden swan]

Real

[astral ember]

The Sandbag was crafted by the aincients to take infinite amount of damage and always come back. Inside it is the trapped soul of some super bad dude or something

[floral mantle]

And the secret boss is HAL-Bot

[astral ember]

I imagine that's how the lore would go

[floral mantle]

To access the secret boss, you need to beat 86 bosses with a singular copy ability/character

[thin prairie]

the ancients trapped the real life satan inside mr sandbag

[floral mantle]

HAL-BOT will replace that boss if it's your 86th Boss

HAL-BOT is easy to beat, and will give you a lot of points and buffs

[maiden swan]

Soul of Grigori Rasputin

[odd rover]

I just realized ||Moon Warriors|| is now called ||Stage of the Partners that Shook the Heavens||

True Arena music btw

[full sail]

LMAO i love it

[rustic trellis]

Iirc we knew that name before this game

I think dream buffet has it as that

[novel fog]

yeah we already knew that
is name of stage in Fighters 2 (and therefore was also the song name)

[lost briar]

we do have names for those stages secret songs now incidentally

[novel fog]

yeah

[lost briar]

I don't remember what was the name of the stage of destined rivals secret song but it was revealed in a music fest pamphlet

[vocal latch]

this predicted the outlines 😱

[thin prairie]

wheere kirby

and mad galore

[junior fiber]

i really like that bandee render

like whats he doing

[novel fog]

seems to be 深き絆の盟友の戦い (basically 'The Battle of Allies with a Close Bond')

[vocal latch]

I always took it as him running while holding his bandana (we see it slip down in the title screen lol)

https://tenor.com/view/king-dedede-kirby-meta-knight-bandana-waddle-dee-bandee-gif-24599821

[junior fiber]

oooh thats probably it

[vocal latch]

I like how his bandana doesn't slip anymore lol

character development ‼️

[ruby plaza]

Good news, another youtuber fell for the trap
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxxGIP4MOiLgTNjsZsQ3ArsJepFZjT5-o2

[junior fiber]

claims he sees what he has to do

dies

[junior mesa]

the classic blunder

[floral mantle]

Peak Puzzle

[ocean mauve]

it's funny because I remember doing this puzzle the right way on the wii version

and then I get to it here and just don't think

[vast vapor]

caught another sucker

[stray arch]

Arenct you supposed to charge one up and then bounce it off of the wall

[peak dagger]

Yeah, you're supposed to do it from the side

But it's a lot more intuitive from below, which means a lot of people get crushed

[junior fiber]

i must've been playing with my brain off

[peak dagger]

I just always assume "ah, yes, I cut this down and then run out of the way before it hits me" and then fail to be fast enough because it's freaking ice lol

[wintry turtle]

These poor souls falling for it every time

Not me

I only fell for it every time in the original

[ruby plaza]

I fell for it in the remake, no memory if I did in the original

[novel fog]

I just did it with the normal Cutter and then quickly going into the water in remake lol
but there is a bit of ways to do it

[flat pendant]

i find it interesting that the lobby before ||Galacta Knight|| uses the "Where True Enemy lies" track because you can hear faint crowd cheering in it, which could be a reference to ||Galacta Knight being viewed as a champion when he was a hero||

[novel fog]

don't think it is supposed to be like that

especially considering JP name

[floral mantle]

what's the Japanese name?

[novel fog]

真の敵の極地 (basically 'Furthest Lands/Polar Regions of the True Enemy' (could also be 'enemies'))
極地 can mean like 'the farthest land' or 'polar regions (like the Antarctic and Artic regions on Earth)'

the 極地 part might be partially in reference to Iceberg which it is remix of, or referring to it being late in True Arena (and in original it was used for all the later fights' rest areas)

真 part is also in reference to it being in True Arena of course lol

though overall, I think the song name isn't really specifically in reference to ||Galacta Knight||

just because there's lots of song names that are more in reference to how they were originally used

[flat pendant]

hm, well i was aware of it being a remix of iceberg and being used as the final 4 track. The track name has nothing to do with when it comes to referencing ||Galacta Knight|| but i was more referred in terms of it's intention which it's used and because its the only few songs with a crowd cheering in the background of it, they might decided to use that for his lobby track because of the previous lore regarding him.

[novel fog]

even when they could have changed them/made them more appropriate in context

[novel fog]

there's no crowd cheering in back of it?

[tawdry mulch]

||Galacta Knight organizing all of true arena to be in one fight and then fly away in shame||

[flat pendant]

to me the background ambience sounds more like a crowd with whistles. Of course it's original intention might have been to make it sound like cold wind but it just ends up sounding like a crowd in a stadium.
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVq3popnCD8||

[novel fog]

not really

it just sounds like otherworldly ambiance

and it was in original too

and obviously it was not meant to be that there lol

[ocean ginkgo]

I GOT THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF MAGIC POINTS IN MAGOLOR EPILOGUE...

||and i got nothing from it... i wasted 10 hours killing doomers just to get 999999 of a currency i can't even spend on anything anymore||

[peak dagger]

It's like ||maxing out your rare stones in FL after you've bought everything. It's for personal pride lol||

[wintry turtle]

Now that's dedication

Also how did I never see this before

It would've made

SO MUCH MORE SENSE

[tawdry mulch]

||Kumazaki: Magolors appareance doesnt fit with the worldview of the dream kingdom

Also Kumazaki: magolwo||

[odd rover]

He said ||the shoppe clothing fit the Dream Kingdom more|| didn’t he

[spark lotus]

Feel like ||Magolor just wanted to try something new, yknow. Plus it signifies a change with the whole "color of betrayal in Christianity"||

[tawdry mulch]

||He said something close to what I typed out basically. Something about him not fitting with the worldview||

||Kumazaki when he does a little misinformation spreading||

||like sureeeee you didn't just want to keep his identity more hidden until people max everything out okay buddy whatever you say||

[spark lotus]

Even though ||Clash came out before Magolor epilogue, it feels appropriate to redesign a character when giving them a different role ~~plus miiverse confirmed they were the same character anyway||

[thin prairie]

||magolor is actually MAGOLOR?????||

[floral mantle]

biggest plot twist:

[spark lotus]

Clash uninformed here ||Is this unused? Does he switch to this shoppe on 100% only in SKC||

[floral mantle]

||Something about maxing out the shop or the tree||

It is used

[fleet osprey]

||i think its when you buy the highest tree upgrade||

[novel fog]

that's not really what he said

[spark lotus]

We talking about ||that interview where they decided how to put the micro transactions in||?

[tawdry mulch]

What did he say

[novel fog]

||all he said was about the new clothes was 服が緑なのは、お店の衣装ということですね。あと、ウソつきなので潔白の白もいいんじゃないかという設定もありました(笑)。 ("The reason his clothes are green is that he is dressed for the store. Also, I thought that since he is a liar, white for innocence would be a good choice (laughs).")||

||well earlier he did say the colors of original outfit did not fit the best for the worldview, but I doubt that is talking in general lol, think that would be moreso talking about at first (because of what that question asked in first place with 'why are the color of the clothes green instead of blue?')||

[harsh dragon]

I’m a little lost. Who are we talking about?

[wintry turtle]

|| He changes to his original colors when you buy every weapon and every hat. No upgrades needed. ||

[novel fog]

Magolor

[harsh dragon]

Oh no I was referring to the reviewer I saw people criticizing earlier. Sorry for not being clear

[novel fog]

oh

[spark lotus]

Ant dude?..

Only reviewer I remember this chat talking about. It's been a few days since I saw them talking about that though,

So that might not be the reviewer in question

[ocean mauve]

are you referring to kumazaki? if so, that's the series director ppl are talking about

(if not then idk lol)

[harsh dragon]

It might have been him

[spark lotus]

They could still be sniping at him too

[thin prairie]

what did ant guy do

[ocean mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mad-meme-plague-he-poisoned-water-supply-burnt-our-crops-and-deliver-gif-10420279

[spark lotus]

Ehh if you want a summary, a few things people have listed here

-placed Block Ball above Star Allies on basically a Kirby game tier list (except without the actual memy tier list)
-in his most recent video he allegedly repeatedly trashes Star Allies
-something about Scope Shot

[junior fiber]

the block ball over SA is still wild

[tawdry mulch]

He off handly mentions Star Allies frame rate like once or twice lmao

That's like it basically

[ocean mauve]

we just make fun of him bc we find his opinions silly but he hasn't done anything actually bad

he's chill

[thin prairie]

star allies shouldve been in 120 fps

[tawdry mulch]

His opinions are fine smhhhhh

[harsh dragon]

I understand that’s stupid, but really it’s not a huge deal. I wouldn’t get worked up this much about it

[ocean mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[thin prairie]

and given kirby jiggle physics

like a jello

[ocean mauve]

ok but FL unironically has frame drops when water balloon kirby starts jiggling and I find that super fucking funny

[thin prairie]

oml

[thin forge]

star allies has frame drops during void terminas intro lmao

[thin prairie]

does it actually

[tawdry mulch]

Lmfaooo

[floral mantle]

Honestly find more enjoyment with Failboat's suffering gameplay (Ignoring the chat's repeated Beam Attack spam and Beam Attack jokes)

[ocean mauve]

yeah I've had it happen but it's innocuous - just rly funny on principle

[harsh dragon]

More of his takes are pretty good. If there’s any disrespect I have for him, it’s cheesing the true arenas

He’s chill tho

[ocean mauve]

me using sand the whole time in TA

[novel fog]

I thought he did some plagiarizing once? not that I care about whoever he is anyway

[ocean mauve]

wait did he? I had never heard of this

[floral mantle]

Silvery make a video

[tawdry mulch]

Oh I forgot he was also talking about Star Allies' style in comparison to RTDX

Cause yeah RTDX kinda going crazy with the outlines and shading kinda fire

[novel fog]

yeah, think it was some Copy Ability video thing

[tawdry mulch]

Compared to SA which was good but just kind of standard

[peak dagger]

I like hearing him geek out about Kirby. It's fun. I disagree with many of his opinions, but opinions are subjective so it's whatever.

[thin prairie]

i like when the ant guy talks about the funny orb

[vast vapor]

if he poisoned their water supply wouldn’t literally all of them be dead

[harsh dragon]

I mean, I use hammer, which is far from the hardest true arena experience, but I wouldn’t call it cheesing. Cheesing is abusing infinite invincibility frames and using Amiibos imo

[tawdry mulch]

Kirbley

[floral mantle]

Basically, a Youtuber name Silvery talk about a Copy Ability ranking before Antdude, and some of his points about some abilities have very similar wording with Antdude, who release his video after

[ocean mauve]

spongebob characters seem to still utilize water normally despite being underwater

[thin prairie]

me using the sword dash and spin invincibility frames :evil:

[floral mantle]

I just dislike Antdude taking repeated jabs at Star Allies

[novel fog]

ah, he even stole jokes from there right?

[tawdry mulch]

Basedude?????

[harsh dragon]

Star Allies is only mediocre at worst, and it’s really only the main story mode

[floral mantle]

yeah. Though it can be coincidence but I'm not sure

[ocean mauve]

ahh damn

[harsh dragon]

Everything else in SA looks fire

[floral mantle]

I also never notice the Frame rates

[ocean mauve]

that's shitty

[thin prairie]

yeah after i slog through the sa main story it goes uphill from there

[ocean mauve]

real

[tawdry mulch]

Probably just a coincidence I'd be surprised if this was actually him stealing shit lmao

[novel fog]

I remember some were really similar (and there was a bit of them), but it's been a while

[harsh dragon]

Criticism of the main story is very valid criticism, but people need to stop pretending like that’s the whole game

[tawdry mulch]

Hate to complain about SA again but man it just stinks that the story mode is the anchor of the experience

[floral mantle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbtVzpZCI3o&ab_channel=Silvery Here is it

[ocean mauve]

oops lmao

hive dark mind

[thin prairie]

i need to play the 3ds games again but i am a picky bastard and have refused to settle with type a controls

[ocean mauve]

Citra

[main fractal]

Which are type a

[ocean mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[main fractal]

A for jump and b for Attack?

[ocean mauve]

yee

it feels weird for me too - I prefer type b

[thin prairie]

sorry but portable games emulated on a non portable system makes me explode and die

[main fractal]

I was used to type a but got kinda used to type b because snes online forces b

[ocean mauve]

fair

[tawdry mulch]

Me emulating them on my phone

[main fractal]

Type b with a GameCube controller wasn't fun iirc tho

[harsh dragon]

My hot take is this: The True Arena and other equivalents to that like Ultimate Choice are my favorite parts of Kirby games

[tawdry mulch]

Also Guest Stars canonicity annoys me too (this is relevant to RTDX spoilers cause ||Clash is canon and the Morpho armor references Guest Star||)

Like just explain the mode better smh

It's weird and uncomfortable and strange and annoying

[thin prairie]

||is clash not like a whole different timeline, as well as morpho being canon in FL||

[peak dagger]

I think the annoyance is because ||clash specifically references the Star Allies appearance|| and also ||our Magolor is in the clash universe so it confuses things when you put those two together||

Personally ||I just don't think about the hats that hard|| but I get it

[tawdry mulch]

correct

[novel fog]

||Clash is a 'parallel', and Magolor travelled to it (also, Galacta Knight/Aeon Hero is not originally from there either and main world Susie may have also possibly travelled there)||

[odd rover]

Magolor has been present for every Kirby-related event across the multiverse to sell things based on them

[thin prairie]

|| i forgot but how is the morpho armor specific to sa||

[novel fog]

||I mean either way Magolor can travel through parallels anyway||

[harsh dragon]

It feels like everything you’ve done is preparing you for these ultra hard challenges, and I cringe a little bit internally when people cheese it. To me, it kinda goes against the spirit of what makes these challenges special to me. I don’t have anything against people that do that, I just could never imagine doing it myself

[tawdry mulch]

||this only happened cause i decided to boot up SKC for fun and its easy to write the other ones off as things Magolor heard about but then i accidentally looked at that one while browsing armor and died||

[novel fog]

||the whole symphasizing with Greatest Warrior in the Galaxy thing in the description||

[thin prairie]

ohh

[tawdry mulch]

||and the fact i even have to consider a parallel timeline just for guest star to explain this makes me want to destroy my switch||

[ocean mauve]

||i honestly assumed that morpho got his form from absorbing galacta||

[tawdry mulch]

exaggerating of course but URGGGGGHH

[novel fog]

||remember he has Marx Soul (which is unknown if takes place in main world or not) sticker in SKC and mask in Magoland, and Dark Matter Clone mask in Magoland (Meta Knightmare Returns takes place in a parallel)||

[thin prairie]

||i like to think that morpho knight is his first 'physical' form and that he's just gonna stick with that but obv that messes with canon||

[tawdry mulch]

||i dont consider the masks or especially the stickers as meaning anything rn tbh||

[novel fog]

||I mean, I think at least some of the Guest Star stuff took place in main world to a degree (like Hyness's rituals), who knows about other stuff||

[tawdry mulch]

||for things so insignificant thats such a huge can of worms to open imo||

[novel fog]

||I mean he MADE the masks in Magoland and obviously he knows the names of stickers in Clash||

[floral mantle]

Did Dedede give Hyness a Dark Heart in his Guest Star Mode?

[novel fog]

||like if this art did not exist then maybe but lmao||

[thin prairie]

MAGOLOR IS ALL OF THEM HE IS THE DARK MATTER HE IS THE ANTI CHRIST

[ocean mauve]

||i just hc magolor has 4th wall breaking powers that let him make references to the series itself and see characters he's never seen in universe||

[tawdry mulch]

||i just feel like if they were really meant for that (mostly for the masks) it would have been alluded to specifically. and also i go 🤨 and the masked dedede mask which uses 3ds dedee lmfaooo||

[floral mantle]

I like to think Magolor canonically watch Magical Girl shows

[novel fog]

||I mean, feel like the making masks stuff already alludes to that lmao||

[floral mantle]

Because Magical Girl helmet and wand

[thin prairie]

why do you think he giggles at the pitch of a rat after certain attacks

[novel fog]

||he has Lor Starcutter, so he can go wherever and do whatever he wants either way||

[tawdry mulch]

||saying the masks and stickers matter feels like saying the Dedede design differences matter lmao. They say nothing about them and are just here for fun||

[thin prairie]

||did he not lose the lor after the rtdl ending, it looked like landia just took it back||

[novel fog]

||again, if they did not have that artwork maybe I could have brushed it off; but it exists||

[novel fog]

||he has it by time Dream Collection happens||

[spark lotus]

Same hat

[tawdry mulch]

||tbh i dont think stamp rally art really matters to the degree where all past game modes are parallel timelines. I feel like if they were there isnt really a reason to hide it but thats just me.||

[spark lotus]

PLUS i really feel like the masks are like 70% of the reason you even get the whole "story of a different time" with Magoland

[novel fog]

||I mean where else would you put that fact, they had to have some intention with that lmao||

[novel fog]

again, Magolor is likely from future there lol

[spark lotus]

I guess some of that percent could be relegated to the whole apology theme park thing

[tawdry mulch]

||have him talk about it. They have him do it for the origin of the park, the reason he opens the shop, and what inspired him for the minigames.||

[thin forge]

i love how magolor has both the forgotten land dededesign and the tdx(?) dededesign as masks

[novel fog]

||well he also says he travelled different worlds anyway in that so; and they probably did not want to make stuff too long||

[novel fog]

it is just some world and some time, and obviously he has been building theme parks in different worlds

[spark lotus]

But what I mean with this is, it's a minigame place, why bother making the effort to make it make a little bit of sense in terms of canon? I mean yeah they're telling you not to think too hard about it but the fact they felt the need to clarify this lore wise

[novel fog]

there's also it appearing in Nutty Noon, which means it is not just straight-up 'noncanon'

[novel fog]

yeah, they definitely tried to clarify why it exists and stuff, and how it is Magolor's dream to make themepark and stuff

it would be weird if it was just not the same Magolor lol
would make his whole arc feel wasted honestly

[spark lotus]

Yeh
The souvenir Dees also say they're from a different time or something which is interesting

[novel fog]

just different world yeah

[tawdry mulch]

i guess only time will tell how this turns out but im just not ready to acknowledge an infinite multiverse of side modes without really understanding how this works in the first place

based off of goofy ahh accessories lmfaoo

[novel fog]

I mean there's bit more than that
that is just one thing lol

there's obviously all the weird Galacta Knight stuff
and there's Meta Knightmare Returns also being a 'parallel story'

[spark lotus]

"Sealed across various worlds and eras" or something?

[tawdry mulch]

eternal battle between "What-If scenario" and "parallel story"

[novel fog]

so most evidence points towards them being parallels and therefore being able to be travelled to

[tawdry mulch]

idk like they didnt even try to hide Magolor being the same in interviews i dont see why they wouldnt be explicit about this too tbh

[spark lotus]

They're weird about what they're explicit with.

[novel fog]

well, there's stuff like how in Clash he was not native to that world and was summoned via Another Dimension Road

[novel fog]

well, they only said because they were asked about it

remember, ingame they never explicitly said lol

[peak dagger]

Some of it is probably so players don't go "oh, you need me to fix your ship, but you have time to go make a whole amusement park huh?"

[novel fog]

and obviously there's him always being summoned in his appearances

[novel fog]

and also we have not had the interview for RTDL DX yet, will have to wait and see what they talk about there

[spark lotus]

Tbh doesnt the whole "Halcandra is future Dream Kingdom, aka alternate Pop Star" theory already kinda edge on multiverse stuff?

I guess it's different from INFINITE multiverse where there are universes that are only slightly different

[tawdry mulch]

i mean specifically the interviews cause they've been asked about the modes too and they say stuff like "what if scenario" and "parallel story" instead of "this takes place on a parallel" or whatever they said for Clash before now

evil kumazaki if he just didnt feel like saying this smh

evil man

[novel fog]

they never said like what if scenario like that lol

they opened with 'parallel story'

[tawdry mulch]

did they not call a different mode a what if scenario i thought they did

[novel fog]

and most people JP-wise interpreted that as parallel world too

[spark lotus]

PR I think

[novel fog]

that is what we are talking about

[spark lotus]

Oh, "that" is referring to Clash here?

[tawdry mulch]

it was probably Dededetour (cause its the only other one lmaoo)

[novel fog]

but really the 'if' story part there is probably talking concept-wise more than actual in-universe wise if you get what I mean

[novel fog]

nope, they never said anything really about that one

[novel fog]

what do you mean

I just mean it isn't what if scenario like just straight up 'noncanon'

[tawdry mulch]

yeah this is COMPLICATED im just going to sit tight cause they havent even situated Clash yet

god i hope this multiverse stuff doesnt get too weird and annoying

[novel fog]

eh, don't think they will do most with it

[spark lotus]

So you meant "like that" like this

I THINK I get it now

[novel fog]

like they might do more stuff with it with characters like Magolor, Galacta, etc. but I don't think it will be like main plot point or anything

[tawdry mulch]

this is the bad kind of complicated not the kind i like to dissect for fun lmfao

[peak dagger]

Yeah, I think they just wanted to make this one specific clearer. It doesn't mean they're going to delve too deep into it.

[novel fog]

well connected-wise I mean
of course I think they will do more parallels in general

[tawdry mulch]

ive said it before but my brain cannot function with the concept that the ancients came to the (presumably) main universe from a different dimension and there are diverging dimensions that reflect their actions in the main one that HURTS

[novel fog]

well, parallel and dimension are distinct

like HR-D3 JP description specifically says it travelled through dimensions and parallels

[tawdry mulch]

to be real i dont think we really have the details to say that honestly. and if they are what makes them different anyways. New World seems pretty similar to Shiver Star but its not in a parallel so ermmmmm

[novel fog]

parallel seems more like at least a dimension (though probably more than that) with parallel versions of main world characters

[spark lotus]

Filing that away in my brain

Literally the same sentence they said both of those words as if they were separate

Is that ||RTDX only pause screen or||

[novel fog]

yeah, the RTDL DX version

[novel fog]

they specifically use ジゲン (Dimensions) and パラレル (Parallels)

[tawdry mulch]

ill wait to see what happens with Clash before i decide my verdict on dimensions and parallels cause right now im not confident in a meaningful distinction between the two. Especially since we only have Clash and WOWZA it sure isnt fleshed out

[novel fog]

I mean it seems dimensions do not necessarily have parallel versions of main world characters, while parallels do

from what we have seen

[tawdry mulch]

maybe if Kumazaki didnt drop the ball on clash's world we would understand this better smh

[novel fog]

I do wish they explained Super Clash stuff better at least lol

like wtf is Parallel Nightmare

where is this man from

[tawdry mulch]

clash 3 wooohooo... its coming guys itll fix it

please fix it man

[novel fog]

who invited him

[tawdry mulch]

for now im just sitting on my theory that ||Dream Kingdom is just on Halcandra in its past||and i will just have to be happy with that until Clash's own lore satisfies me

its like the only thing that lets me make sense of Clash's world LMFAO

[novel fog]

I think TKCD stuff is mostly fine (but I wish it was ingame) but SKC is lmao

[tawdry mulch]

its either i understand nothing or i understand most of the stuff that annoys me about clash through that theory most

so im just going to go with the latter until SEPTEMBER!!! CLASH 3 BABY

[pliant socket]

or you're just mid

[tawdry mulch]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUGHHH

[neat path]

||I am currently fixated on Supreme Ruler’s Coronation. Specifically the version in phase 2 of the fight, with the Magolor sounds, lol.||

[neat path]

||What a really bold choice from HAL to change the first boss that much from the original.||

[north topaz]

Dear god

[pliant socket]

LOLLLLL

[lofty condor]

Lmao the cut off

[loud otter]

Waiting for the day someone beats the new true arena using only high jump

[cursive sandal]

failboat

[novel fog]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIrADO6zSeo|| like this?

[worldly burrow]

https://www.spriters-resource.com/nintendo_switch/kirbysreturntodreamlanddeluxe/

KRTDL DELUXE SPRITES ARE FINALLY ON TSR

[novel fog]

oh wow nice

[pliant socket]

Yooo awesome! Thanks again rabbid

[worldly burrow]

come to think of it ksa rips are baron

[junior fiber]

2 eyed kracko

[worldly burrow]

amazing

[slender compass]

I wished that Robobot had these

but nope, neither boss levels or arena do this

[novel fog]

||https://fxtwitter.com/GMOKAWAII/status/1633784915962781696 || idk if this has been posted here yet, Sand bug

[solar harbor]

What the actual fuck

[cursive sandal]

parasol's passive hitbox but more funy

[novel fog]

now I just wonder what caused that lol

[ocean mauve]

they must reveal their secrets

[full sail]

wait..... is that new music?

[cursive sandal]

yeah that's true arena

[leaden terrace]

Sand does it again.

[lost briar]

yes and no

[covert jasper]

if we want to be technical ||it's the magolor guest start remix, so not exactly new, but new to the remake and once it loops it changes a bit from the original||

[lost briar]

||its not exactly a loop||

||only in the sound test||

[covert jasper]

oh I never paid attention

I'm just saying what people have said

[lost briar]

||in the battle itself the thing is two music tracks that have the same timing||

||so they fade into each other seamlessly||

dang this is taking a while to upload

[covert jasper]

dang 75 MB

[lost briar]

what nearly 7 minutes does to a mf

longer than the "full" four phases of the Suite: The Star-Conquering Traveller (6:45)

[novel fog]

https://twitter.com/GMOKAWAII/status/1633783064462770178 was looking at other tweets to see if I could find anything and lmao

ぃぬ (@GMOKAWAII)

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this is totally normal

[prisma island]

they kinda went unhinged with track lengths in star allies lmao

i wouldn't complain if the songs didn't usually outlast the actual fights

[faint glen]

Thats an understatement and a half lmao

Morpho dies within like a minute to most dream friends

[prisma island]

Even Void is guilty; my first SMEX run I didn't even get to hear the 8-bit section before I killed it

[faint glen]

Dam yea

[zealous glade]

master crown is better than new magolor soul

[lean fog]

Real

[timid storm]

Why does merry magoland sit in the background of some in-game levels when it supposedly takes place in another dimension? That’s what the intro said right?

[leaden terrace]

||tag||

[novel fog]

well, it takes place in some world and some time
considering the sky distortions in Nutty Noon during Grand Doomer fight (presumably from Mast), probably has something to do with that

[timid storm]

But it’s like

In the background of the first room in nutty noon 1

Are the sky distortions there too?

[novel fog]

yeah that's what I mean

[timid storm]

Oh ok

[novel fog]

could be affecting other areas too

[timid storm]

Weird

[novel fog]

and I think it'd have to do with the distortions since it is also in Nutty Noon

[jolly valve]

We never got the Arena previews from FL ripped right?

[tawdry mulch]

I just assume that he moved the park to the present time. I like to think he did it as a test run for when he fully opens it in the future lol

[novel fog]

I'd rather just assume it is distortions for it being in Nutty Noon

since Kirby still flies off to somewhere when you go to it

[tawdry mulch]

Idk what the distortion thing is anyways lmfao

[novel fog]

the fact that sky in Grand Doomer battle is Another Dimension one
mentioned in pause screen description

so would not be surprised if it was affecting other stuff too

[solar harbor]

Grand Doomer is fucking anomalous, y'know lol

Warp space-time, warp your dimensions, bring Magoland into view

[novel fog]

well I'd assume it is more the Mast

I do not think Grand Doomer could do that (on his own), would not make the most sense lol

[tawdry mulch]

Ermmmmmmmm..... Magoland is on the ground...... And thats in the sky 600 miles in the air touching space

Ermmm.....

[novel fog]

well there is also Energy Spheres everywhere

[solar harbor]

Then... explain all the dimensional rifts going around lol

[novel fog]

yeah lol

there is clearly stuff going on besides just the Grand Doomer fight stuff

and it being seen around Nutty Noon is what makes me think it has something to do with around there

[tawdry mulch]

Well the sales waddle dee shows up in the worlds so I assume Magoland has some connection with the present

[novel fog]

well yeah

Kirby goes there on Warp Star

it isn't like you can't go to it

just does not seem like it is in main world

[tawdry mulch]

Kirby just decides he wants to casually time travel (space time continuum in shambles)

[novel fog]

maybe you access it through rift or something? wish they would explain it

[spark lotus]

It's like a mirage

Tho personally I'm also of the opinion the park was moved through time

[tawdry mulch]

It's explained by it being moved to present time 🧠

[novel fog]

how did this man move entire park to another time

[tawdry mulch]

Time travel magic

[spark lotus]

The Lor's parts could do that

[tawdry mulch]

Of course

[novel fog]

at that point this man could just do whatever he wants (well, he can probably already do that)

[tawdry mulch]

Hey well he managed to get to Halcandra on his own when it's only accessible from AD

[spark lotus]

I wonder if Manager Magolor ever acknowledges the time travel in any way, probably not else I'd hear of it

[tawdry mulch]

He's got some skills

[novel fog]

no, he does not really care

though he does tell you about your adventures and all of course lol

how does he know how many Waddle Dees I have killed

[spark lotus]

He tells Kirby his dream as if Kirby wouldn't know it already ||from the 120 spheres dialogue|| but I guess it's hard to keep track of that sort of thing anyway

[tawdry mulch]

He sort of just mentions off handedly that he studied fun past attractions

[novel fog]

yeah, from various worlds

[tawdry mulch]

He has been to minigame dimension

"another world in another time" wdym another world it's Pop Star bro Waddle Dees work there

What is kumazakis cooking

Nothing that's what he's cooking nothing we will starve

[novel fog]

well even the Waddle Dee says he's from a different world lol

[leaden terrace]

he enslaved the waddle dees from another world

they may seem happy but their eyes are begging you to help them

[marsh patrol]

Hm
||I was thinking of some sort of connection existing between Galaxia and Master Crown||

[novel fog]

he built it in the New World

that's why the Waddle Dees are in different colors

[tawdry mulch]

Magolor making a park for his 4 friends but on a completely different planet for maximum inconvenience

[novel fog]

imagine only having 4 friends

[tawdry mulch]

Magolor time traveling specifically to get Crowned Landia at the park and not the current one

It's all about iconicity

[leaden terrace]

maybe thats why he got shot down

[tawdry mulch]

Who remembers the four little baby dragons honk shoo shoo

[leaden terrace]

he was trying to get them to merry magoland

[tawdry mulch]

Big ass four headed dragon with the crown HELL yeah

I will demolish the space time continuum for this

Well Magolor will

Elfilin getting a statue with the other dream friends is cute. He's like an honorary one

[leaden terrace]

hes such a good friend that kirby features him on everything

deserved

[tawdry mulch]

Sorry he wasn't here for when some guy tried to create god to kill everyone

But he can be part of the dysfunctional team in spirit

[solar harbor]

Tbh that'll be neat if that was confirmed to be such, in seriousness

[tawdry mulch]

It really is a dysfunctional team how can half of these people stand each other

[leaden terrace]

i mean there's wondaria

[tawdry mulch]

Wondaria Remains demolished for Magoland

[solar harbor]

Imagine if he just pulled a lot of shit out of Wondaria just to make Magoland

[tawdry mulch]

Oh hey my head canon for Wondaria being related to Magolor died I didn't realize that KUMAZAKI I'LL SUE YOU

[leaden terrace]

wouldnt be out of character

[faint glen]

to be fair they were only really a "team" for one fight
...unless you havea group of 4 of them i guess
canonically they all have different reasons for stopping the cult though
..mostly

[leaden terrace]

im telling you guys

Magolor is a living Egger plushie

[tawdry mulch]

Hes real

[faint glen]

does that mean he is soft

[tawdry mulch]

Rock solid all muscle

[faint glen]

[leaden terrace]

wait theres already an egger character wtf

WHO ARE YOU

[faint glen]

OH

[tawdry mulch]

I really do wonder if Egger engines actually is supposed to be alluded to by the Eggers. But there are also those guys yeah

[faint glen]

thats one of the . m fs from triple deluxe

[tawdry mulch]

And egger land

[faint glen]

u hypernova and fuck em up

theres 4 of them i think

[tawdry mulch]

Maybe egger is just a fun word they like overseas or something

Cultural divide

[leaden terrace]

when you say egger you get two results

[novel fog]

Winged Eggers/エッガーウィングス (Egger Wings)
from TDX

they are very egg

[faint glen]

eggers are actually plushes of a mascot character based off magolor

magolor merchandised himself so much it caught on in other regions

egger is a bootleg magolor

[tawdry mulch]

Hal just really likes the word Egger I guess

Egger land canon

[leaden terrace]

just like they love the word egg

[novel fog]

Egger Engines

Egger Land

Egger Wings

so much Egger

[leaden terrace]

tamagotchi

[tawdry mulch]

Maybe we should start diving into eggerland lore it might be important you never know

[leaden terrace]

wait whats the jp name for

egg catcher

cus i thought of tamagatcha lol

[novel fog]

たまごきゃっちゃ

basically Egg Catcher lol

[tawdry mulch]

Next we will learn King Egger was the king of Dreamland before dedede

Is king egger a real character did I make that up

[leaden terrace]

WHAT IF THE ANCIENTS WERE EGG-SHAPED DOGS ALL ALONG

and theres two whole races of cats and dogs

[tawdry mulch]

The egg lore runs deep

[spark lotus]

There's also the gegg things in Mass Attack I think they're called?

[tawdry mulch]

Holy shit the dog nursing the eggs

[leaden terrace]

No way

[tawdry mulch]

Hes the real god of the Kirby world

[novel fog]

iirc he is

[tawdry mulch]

No one actually knows egger land lore 😭

Whatever sure King Egger

[tawdry mulch]

Egg matter

Ah silly me two eyes what a foolish mistake

[leaden terrace]

wdym

dark matter always had 2 eyes

[novel fog]

okay yeah エッガー大王 ('Great King Egger')

[solar harbor]

[ocean mauve]

never realized he's being quite scandalous here

cover that up dark matter. you're in public

[leaden terrace]

the dark matter knows no laws.

[thin forge]

https://tenor.com/view/animation-movies-disney-pixar-mike-wazowski-gif-14842119

[peak dagger]

Side note, but I love how we can't really prove that Hyness isn't somewhat egg shaped. Like, he has a neck kinda, so not as round as Magolor or Kirby. But he probably has floating hands and might not have feet at all.

[thin forge]

he has a head though

[leaden terrace]

YEAH actually ive been wondering about that

[peak dagger]

Yeah, I mentioned the neck

[thin forge]

maybe hes a head with an egg body

[peak dagger]

Just, there's not much else we can know about him. It's funny to me

[thin forge]

like a snowman type build

[faint glen]

wdyd when the next game's worlds are
Eclair Evergreens
Garlic Grounds
Gelatin Glacier
Espresso Emprium
Ravenous Ravine

[leaden terrace]

look at how small his body is

[thin forge]

does he even have arms

like

[leaden terrace]

probably not

[thin forge]

hands i mean

why does bro wear a robe

[faint glen]

id say he has to move the sleeves but like

armless kirby chars exist

they can move their hands just fine

[thin forge]

maybe he just makes them float with his mind

[junior fiber]

He got floaty hands I bet

[thin forge]

and doesnt even have hands

[peak dagger]

Almost certainly a "floating hands" creature imo, but they're probably floating like around where we'd picture the elbows

[faint glen]

this made me realize kirby level names is somewhat harder than i thought

especially when they dont really do repeats afaik

[thin forge]

does magolor have a bigass squidward nose like hyness does

[leaden terrace]

maybe thats why they resorted to making up names for epilogue lol

takes satellite names ................. oh make it aero

Oh yeah aerogree

so smart

now make them color themed

[junior fiber]

They must hide their noses to protect the masses from their overwhelming charisma

[faint glen]

they really said fuck the last letter of the colors

except red we like red

tbf probably because "Pyre" is already a thing

[leaden terrace]

Where do they get Locandra from anyways

[junior fiber]

I don’t even know what Locandra means

[faint glen]

well magologue canonically takes at the bottom of something something ad whatever

and it uses egg engines stuff

so i guess its like "halcandra but low haha"

its a guess anyways

[leaden terrace]

6 feet underground of Halcandra 😭

[junior fiber]

Could be it

[novel fog]

the name? Loss Halcandra

JP is ロスカドーラ

rosukadōra

[thin forge]

is this loss

[faint glen]

loss but the guy is magolor and its just a master crown in the bed

[leaden terrace]

makes sense idk why they removed the s tho

[novel fog]

ロス is basically 'loss'
カドーラ is like corrupted version of candra part of Halcandra (ハルカンドラ) it seems

[leaden terrace]

Loscadra

[faint glen]

||everyone was sayin the swords in magologue mean galacta knight or morpho knight or leprechaun knight or whatever but no fuck that MAGOLORS GOT A SWORD BABY||

[leaden terrace]

||LEPRECHAUN KNIGHT 😭||

we literally just past st. patricks day

[faint glen]

fbndvnfdv ik

that may or may not have been a joke only i made based on the funny four leaf clovers in the definitely-lead-up-to-boss cutscene they showed

[novel fog]

||I was moreso thinking something like Morphlora or Morphlower lol||

||but then we got cool tree instead||

[tawdry mulch]

IMPOSSIBLE

[peak dagger]

||I was hoping for a Knight team up, but I was far from disappointed. That ending was sick||

[faint glen]

||i didnt think theyd really bring morpho back so soon again
esp when it really didnt fit magolor at all
...yet i still kinda did when i tried to get morpho sword with ultra sword for like several minutes and failed||

[novel fog]

||I think it could go well with the plant/fruit theming, but what they went with was good||

[faint glen]

||im still kinda disappointed all the pause descs in magologue wasted all their space on hyping up a 'boss' that ended up being just grand doomer and thus not really much of a reveal for me, but i agree that fighting master crown was really the best way it couldve gone for magolor's rtdl story||

[nimble urchin]

Why is ||Galacta Knight|| in the crowd in the 100% complete cutscene

[thin forge]

||ultra axe||

[leaden terrace]

||i knew it had nothing to do with the knights but the tree was still a pleasant surprise. mostly because we were constantly joking about whether whispy was gonna be a penultimate or final boss||

[faint glen]

||bro thought he was part of the team 💀 ||

[novel fog]

he was there in original too

[thin forge]

||hes happy for kirby and his friends||

[peak dagger]

||I was full of glee at the reveal, and at least 50% of that was for that reason lol||

[leaden terrace]

||i also had the stupidest laugh when i saw the credits pics, because we ALSO had been joking about it||

[faint glen]

||bvdfbcsd
DO THEY KNOW?||

[peak dagger]

Honestly the whole epilogue is a joy. I'm glad they decided to do it

[faint glen]

its what i neededddddd from the series
more of a self-actualization need than a physiological one but still

[jolly valve]

Kracko Arena preview in SA be like

[faint glen]

please kumazaki please keep using the characters you have

[leaden terrace]

kumazaki reusing the same character for the 85464th time in the future kirby game:

[faint glen]

yeah, kirby smsmh

[leaden terrace]

true

[faint glen]

When i become old-but-yet-also-young-somehow and i own the series i will change it to Daroach of the Stars and everyone will have to just deal

[peak dagger]

It would be really cool to get even just small things with some of our side characters. They don't have to be full modes for everyone, but give some of them a few moments at least

[leaden terrace]

when i become successor to kumazaki i will make it all about elfilis

[faint glen]

Based

U play as elfilis and just kill ppl

[novel fog]

nah I will make it all Magolor

egg everywhere

[leaden terrace]

i just wanna see more tanza ..

[peak dagger]

Yeah, he'd be cool

[jolly valve]

Kumazaki making the 1987th Drawcia-inspired character:

[faint glen]

Thats whatll happen when kumazaki accidentally leaves the hal hq doors unlocked
Magolor comes in and takes over hal itself

[leaden terrace]

he saw nothing but pain and agony for the last 9 years

at least give him a happy break where he moves on

[faint glen]

Taranza really does deserve to move on

[jolly valve]

Taranza down bad all the time

[faint glen]

He really has just become like a running gag lmao

Haha ur wife is dead!1!

[leaden terrace]

guess the only real obstacle is magolor

[jolly valve]

inb4 Taranza finds himself nice mantis lady

[leaden terrace]

yes i LOVE to resurface someone else's trauma

[faint glen]

If magolor has to die for taranza to finally be happy...

https://tenor.com/view/kyloren-sad-star-wars-i-know-what-i-have-to-do-adam-driver-gif-11159545

[leaden terrace]

FDSFGDFGDFJ

[thin forge]

void termina!!!!

[jolly valve]

Need more Magolor-Susie-Taranza interaction in future games. Magolor and Susie killing each other while Taranza crying in the corner

[peak dagger]

But like seriously, I'd love stuff like Daroach showing up again and telling some tales of what the gang has been up to, or quiet moments with Adeleine and her art, or show us Gooey hanging with Kirby and Bandee.

[leaden terrace]

we need a kirby game thats just that

[peak dagger]

They don't have to be big things, but character interactions are so good

[faint glen]

Yeah i was thinking this

Like pmdeos special episodes combined with . Well kss i guess

[jolly valve]

Gotta love SA for making them relevant again and have them appear as cameos from time to time

Like who would've thought we'd see Ribbon again in 2 games after SA

[peak dagger]

Heck, do another silly party game and have the option to be one of the extended cast. Masks are great, but I'm sure there's silly ideas that don't require every character be a ball

[faint glen]

The dream friends are still the main reason id love an rpg

Because there can be dialogue. One can hope

[jolly valve]

Magolor to Taranza and Susie when they're in the same party:

[leaden terrace]

SAWTFSTEDFESDGTHYHTY

HE WOULD

[faint glen]

Fvhfvdncd

[leaden terrace]

imagine one of the members auto leave the party when u put in all three

one of the members being one of the three

cus they hate each other that much

[peak dagger]

Why do we think they all hate each other?

[leaden terrace]

magolor is annoyed by susie, taranza is bullied by magolor, susie clearly hates everyone

[faint glen]

Magolor and Susie are business opponents and they just bully Taranza

[leaden terrace]

or at least wants to kill t hem

[jolly valve]

Image full of lies

[faint glen]

I mean

Magolor is in this image so

[leaden terrace]

magolor made this pic

[jolly valve]

Taranza screaming internally as he sees the huge dreamstalk in the background

[faint glen]

Magolor: What are you doing, Susie?!
Susie: Mechanizing your ship. It could use some improvements.
Magolor: It's sentient, y'know! We're friends!
Susie: What made you think that would stop me?

[leaden terrace]

LOL

[faint glen]

Taranza: But...Magolor, I heard you stole that ship initially!
Magolor: Shut up Taranza.
Susie: Shut up Taranza.

[leaden terrace]

they disregard everything taranza says

[faint glen]

Bfvdcs yes

[main fractal]

The lunatics

[jolly valve]

This will be your villain for Clash 3 this year (real)

[lofty condor]

Good.

[leaden terrace]

Good.

[thin forge]

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-kong-ok-gif-27031186

[harsh dragon]

||Fighting Magolor Soul from extra mode using sword is so fun||

[prisma island]

I mean Taranza's been seen tending to it along with the People of the Sky in Kirb Twitter art

Also I got to play Magolor Epilogue with my brother as opposed to playing alone and it was a blast we got into Shenanigans and I'm gonna make doodles soon™️
Not tonight though it's 1 am

we were threats to society and also ourselves

[idle sapphire]

I sometimes forget how big Magolor actually is.

[thin forge]

hes the size of this walnut but way smaller

[unreal stag]

question

who are the other magolors if you play magolor epilogue multiplayer

[leaden terrace]

The voices in his head

Who can also interact with the world

[unreal stag]

you mean like a stand

[leaden terrace]

Sure

[cyan wraith]

I had this idea where they could’ve changed it so that similar to ||Elfilin||. Magalor became the final boss not out of his own volition. Like after beating Landia. Magalor pulls out a baseball bat to destroy the crown only for it to jump him and take control of him, his last words being to plead Kirby and friends to destroy the crown, even if he dies.

[leaden terrace]

||Shouldve told Kirby to do the destroying himself, no problem||

||No matter the situation, always rely on Kirby||

Susie knew better

[brisk sonnet]

||I hate this lmao||

[leaden terrace]

Hehehehehe

[brisk sonnet]

There is no escape ig

[vocal latch]

||Remember,「異空の数だけ、自由に飛ぶ「ニル」がいた。」"There's as many 'Voids' as there are other dimensions." ||

[leaden terrace]

Jorrifying

[heady relic]

Water True Arena 14:39
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivqauoMtLPY||

[nimble urchin]

why is Keeby here

[sand frigate]

you beat the main story

so kirby's colors will change randomly

[nimble urchin]

Nice

[tired moth]

https://youtu.be/8dNZhG1qtOs
where does this music track play in-game?

put it here just in case it's a spoiler

[vapid kestrel]

Mfs when they remember waddle dees are all over the galaxy in ssu

[leaden terrace]

Ok, crack theory time guys
||What if Master Crown is an essence of a Void injected in the relic? In all forms (Phase 2 Magolor, Magolor Soul arguably and tree crown), his wings are covered in dark blue fire. You can even argue phase 2 mag is basically all blue fire.
Where you fight Magolor seems to be a planet that is completely covered in blue fire (almost like a star) with something in the middle creating ripples (don't know what it means but my only connection is that Void makes his ripples too. Prob not good enough evidence though). With True Arena giving a major hint making it literally Void, I'm drawing a pretty crazy conclusion that this planet might be acting as some sort of an egg for say AD's version of Void to develop in, biding its time.
With that in mind, I'd been wondering why you fight Magolor on that random flaming planet if it meant more than just cool factor, but I came to a thought that if the crown supposedly came from there, it must be because it's at its strongest there with all the concentrated fire and ultimately why it could practically reform for another round? It must've influenced Magolor to subconsciously lead them there as if it was his plan the entire time.

The only thing possibly really contradicting this is the fact that the ending cutscene shows it falling apart and the dimension itself dissolving into purple darkness. Whatever that means.|| Uggghhh ok nvm maybe this is why I don't make actual theories often lol I realized my mind goes all around the place without actually focusing on the main or even the first point

I can't tell how big this really is since I'm on mobile but I'm sorry in advance lol

[vapid kestrel]

The ending cutscene is just what’s been happening every time you enter AD

The funny dark wall closing the dimension

[leaden terrace]

That's true but it makes me wonder about the fate of that star planet thing

Cus you know. It turned into hexagons and fucking collapsed

[vapid kestrel]

Funny internal names

[leaden terrace]

Oh my gosh wtf

[vapid kestrel]

It got eaten

I ate it

[leaden terrace]

FAYE why you ruined my crack theory

Don't tell me you thought it was crackers

[vapid kestrel]

It tasted like gouda

||no but seriously why is void in the bg of true arena what was he cooking||

[leaden terrace]

RIGHT

[vapid kestrel]

I want to bounce on him

[acoustic crescent]

same

[faint galleon]

What

Im trying to look up what that is and I do not understand a single thing here. God why is quantum physics a thing.

[vale river]

Doesn't it mean in essence that it exists at a single point in space even when accounting for "multiverse" positions that can sometimes be different?

[faint galleon]

....That...makes sense for ||Void||

[leaden terrace]

Yeah smth like that

[vale river]

Ah, no, it's the opposite

Quantum Superposition refers to the general principle of one thing being able to exist in multiple places at once

Because of the whole "if it's observed it does one thing but if unobserved it does another" property that quantum physics has going on

So... lmao???

[faint galleon]

:huhdog:

[leaden terrace]

Oh I thought u meant THAT lol

Im not good at reading explanation

[vale river]

I thought it meant that even though it could be in many places, it only exists at one no matter what

But it does Not mean that

[leaden terrace]

But yeah, it's like Schrodinger's cat

[vale river]

Yeah, Schrödinger's Cat is just a basic application of quantum physics to help explain to people how it works

The cat isn't dead or alive, it's at the quantum state of both

Much like Magolor? Eh?

[faint galleon]

||Magolor is the cat, he is-||

[leaden terrace]

Ur right omg

[faint galleon]

||EXACTLY||

[vale river]

No nova what have I DONE

you were far funnier

[faint galleon]

||Magolor is either dead or alive after this fight, but we don't know that||

[vale river]

Beginner science with Kumazaki
Period 1: Planetary Mass and Roche Limits
Period 2: Quantum Physics and Schrödinger's Microtransactions
Period 3: Star Allies Bad

[leaden terrace]

JSHDH

[leaden terrace]

TRUE

Btw I found a japanese vid of the ||true arena Magolor soul phase 2 theme and a good number of comments said how it makes them almost or do cry. Considering I saw similar comments in the English ones, made me realize how impactful just adding Magolors voice really is wow..||

||I wish I could cry at the funny sad egg song too..||

I mean it already makes me v sad so I guess that's not too bad

[main fractal]

I at least shed a tear

[vast basin]

||would not put it past Magolor to be trolling and just be reading a copypasta or something||

[leaden terrace]

||one of the comments is literally just "I cried"||

||Another is just "wow,,, egg,,,"||

[novel fog]

||well lot of people think Magolor's saying stuff like 助けて…カービィ… (Help me...Kirby), 解き放って (Release me) and/or 頑張って (Hang in there/keep at it) so that probably helps lol||

[leaden terrace]

Yeah that makes sense

I also think thanks to that post about ||how apparently forgiving the Japanese fans were to Magolor that the devs did not need to make him apologize in dream collection that I feel the fans are much more emotionally attached to the character||

[heady relic]

are there unused attacks of ||Crowned Doomer?||
I found these moves
||BossGrandDeathLowperBulletFire
BossGrandDeathLowperBulletSpark
BossGrandDeathLowperBulletFreeze
BossGrandDeathLowperCutter||

[novel fog]

||I thought he used the Spark and Freeze ones at least? unless they are different||

[heady relic]

||the spark shot is SparkAttack(Shot)||

[novel fog]

huh

[heady relic]

||those names imply they would be elemental shots like normal Sphere Doomers||

[novel fog]

||honestly it would have been cool if they used those lol||

[lost briar]

||is the bullet those things that make exploding cloud when they land||

[novel fog]

||bullets are what Sphere Doomers shoot||

[heady relic]

||yes those are the basic shots||

||for "Cutter" I don't know if it would be Marx-style cutters||

[tawdry mulch]

||doomer soul?!>!>!||

[novel fog]

||maybe, it would have been fitting since he already uses other Marx moves||

||or well stuff based on them at least||

[vocal latch]

||me when Bound Pound & Deadly Sun||

[obtuse vessel]

So are there new pause descriptions for the true arena?

[lofty condor]

||Only for Galacta and both Ultimate Magolor Soul phases||

[obtuse vessel]

Ok

[odd rover]

I beat the true arena with Dedede

Fun guy

I beat ||Galacta Knight|| with the Dedede Jump

[jolly valve]

Listening to Another Domination on loop and it got me like

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-default-dance-fortnite-dance-kirby-default-dance-kirby-fortnite-dance-gif-21544382

[novel fog]

||something I hate is that for some of the Magolor Epilogue bosses they don't seem to have any visual distinction in the second phase from the first; most, if not all, of the bosses from original have some sort of distinction, even it is just an aura, always liked that||

[lost briar]

||i think Dooter and Puffer just get bigger||

||well, at least dooter||

[floral mantle]

And ||Hydriath goes Super Saiyan||

||Rampaging Doomers just decided to gang up.||

[novel fog]

||Master Crown doesn't seem to have anything different at least||

||and the Doomers don't look like have any different auras or anything||

||Crowned Doomer at least seems to have a slight effect, which is nice||
||but why do Rampaging Doomers and Master Crown seem to have nothing lol||

[burnt slate]

wonder why the user kept pausing inbetween fights

is it really that they dont have a capture card & are using 30 sec clips to make the whole run?

[heady relic]

exactly

[smoky adder]

its might be a buffer

[burnt slate]

damb lol, imagine the size and the amount of failed runs

[spark lotus]

like the switch clipping function? is each boss fight really less than 30 seconds?

[burnt slate]

some fights were longer, like ||master crown and TA mag soul||, so there were multiple pauses inbetween for clipping the action properly

[novel fog]

checking, people have tested if going to HAL Room in Cookie Country gives 113 and 114 or not right? I am guessing they don't but just to make sure

[spark lotus]

tough as far as I can tell, at the very beginning 30 seconds passes without pausing, though there is a loading screen

[austere willow]

100% completion Menu theme

Random chance of playing though

[pliant socket]

Way to spread misinfo

It plays after 100%ing the game AND fully completing the jukebox

(You can tell if it's completed cause the icon will be golden in the menu)

Normally though without completing the jukebox (not finding every hal room and not going through the nutty noon secret routes) it will play the normal main story complete theme

[pliant socket]

sorry for not making it clear was responding to this, it permanently changes though I think you can toggle it by playing it in the jukebox? Don't quote me on that though

[pliant socket]

But yeah sorry for this comment lmao I just wanted to clarify

[pliant socket]

Ok no it doesn't work

But yeah it isn't random and the music change is permanent

My sincerest apologies for the somewhat rude response again

[molten vapor]

i was recently wearing 8 crowns at once. magolor has nothing on me

[austere willow]

uh

hm

[vocal latch]

Undead Magolor is impossible now :(

[molten vapor]

?

[vocal latch]

https://youtu.be/GXzsoT-SjuY?t=267

[molten vapor]

ohhh

[molten vapor]

Sadge

[faint galleon]

They fixed it!!!

[novel fog]

what about the funny Grand Doomer glitches

do they work or no

[vocal latch]

Which ones?

[novel fog]

https://youtu.be/StI36jYqm3U?t=345 around 5:45 here

[austere willow]

what triggers this

[novel fog]

using Ultra Sword on other player after having destroyed Grand Doomer's shield stuff I believe

[austere willow]

huh

strange

[vocal latch]

imma try it

[leaden terrace]

well this is awkward

magolor really went "FUCK YOU" traps you into a point in time where nothing changes

[vocal latch]

didnt work for me

[novel fog]

in original or Deluxe

[vocal latch]

DX

[novel fog]

so they probably fixed it

since it seems like they fixed the stuff with other Ultra Sword segments too

[austere willow]

i mean

i'd assume they'd fix known bugs

and mainly leave new ones

[novel fog]

there is some bugs that still work but yeah

[austere willow]

Teehee

[novel fog]

it's more lesser known ones

[austere willow]

like

[novel fog]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1078624703155027968/1086239273373679657/WALL_CLIP.mp4 this one supposedly worked in original

||https://fxtwitter.com/Mecha_nove/status/1630054300037840896 || and I believe this one worked in original with normal Magolor (Soul), but don't remember for sure

[jolly valve]

Can't believe Landia brought the Master Crown to Magoland

[floral mantle]

Me thinking it's a fake

[tawdry mulch]

Manager Magolor doing insane time travel shenanigans to bring Crowned Landia to the park

[floral mantle]

Last thing we need is a Master Crowned possessed Landia destroying Magoland

[floral mantle]

Can't it be a fake?

[tawdry mulch]

Well it keeps them fused so idk lol

[hexed current]

It is to flex on Magolor. “You can’t put it on without instantly succumbing to the darkness? Ok let me just leave the sacred resting ground and hang out with the crown in the chaotic environment of a theme park, no big deal”

[molten vapor]

Crown possesed ai meta knight

[jolly valve]

No Grand Doomer in Magoland is sad. Why can't Doomers be friends 😦

[floral mantle]

Magolor hates them

[tawdry mulch]

Grand Doomer certified hater

And he would also eat the park

[hexed current]

I like to think they are minor pests like seagulls at Magoland

Swarm of Doomers gather when a Waddle Dee drops french fries

[jolly valve]

Man my Extra mode playthrough is hella slow lmao

[ocean mauve]

felt

sucks you can't blast through with one ability cuz you still need to get spheres again

[leaden terrace]

The Master Crown that Landia brought to Magolor

[novel fog]

there isn't any spheres, so he isn't interested

[ocean mauve]

I'm gonna go with the lazy choice to disregard magoland in its entirety. not even deciding if it's canon or not but I just don't wanna think about it lmao

[tawdry mulch]

Understandable

[ocean mauve]

it's just a lot of What lmao

[hexed current]

Doomers may think they only want the ship parts but that's because they have not yet tasted the perfect ratio of salt and sugar that Magolor puts in the fries to get people hooked and constantly buying

[jolly valve]

Dreams Friends statues without the actual dream friend cameos is also weird lol. Guess we can count it as recalling Magolor's allies in SA

And uh maybe he met Elfilin one time idk

[ocean mauve]

he met elfilin in the timeline where SA came after FL and elfilin was a dream friend

Obviously!

[tawdry mulch]

Probably cause the park is from after FL