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[lost briar]

that's TD Broom Hatter

[ruby plaza]

😔

[junior fiber]

dw he's gonna get closure in triple deluxe 2

[prisma island]

"taranza the accident was 9 years ago you have to let me go"

[ruby plaza]

Taranza will get his friend back one day hopefully 😔

[peak dagger]

Nah
I think it would be more satisfying for him to move on

[junior fiber]

he'll probably get one last goodbye i bet

[ruby plaza]

https://twitter.com/TuuwArt/status/1635865997700890625?t=qAtSJTEQ3qMoDTSpnq-Cog&s=19

The Ultimate Ultimate Weapon (@TuuwArt)

Did someone already do this with Ingo and Magolor or...

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[junior fiber]

still dont get why arceus chose ingo

[ruby plaza]

Poor Ingo trapped in the past for no good reason

[ruby narwhal]

Here’s my full final boss design tier list with spoilers for all including epilogue

[junior fiber]

i'd put the aeon heroes in a tier higher but this is pretty good

[ruby narwhal]

Wow, and I thought I was being a bit biased towards aeon hero as he’s just gk with drip and I’m a gk fan boy but maybe, definitely top of A tier

Also zero relies way to heavily of the shock value of the blood and is literally just a floating eye, all shock no substance

[lime acorn]

Yeah it's fanon

Originally I wrote Mago-lore last year before the Pyuari Screams In September Nintendo Direct Incident™️

I had to rewrite it to correct the old one and follow the current Mago-lore we have today

Using Rosalina PFP guy's comment containing wall of text summarizing Magolor's journey as a base

I also think the old lore I wrote kinda doesn't make some sense

[long breach]

wait it isn’t actually halcandra???

but the halcandrians literally look like him

with the eyes and mask

[prisma island]

He outright admits it

he's probably the ancients equivalent of a weeaboo and i find that thought hilarious

[long breach]

so he almost admitted his imminent betrayal

i like to think magalor and marx are childhood friends as it’s confirmed they know each other from several sources

[prisma island]

i have my own headcanon regarding when they met but honestly we have no way of knowing for sure

for now at least

[long breach]

also magalor isn’t an ancient. he’s just one who admires and researches them. maybe a descendent we don’t know for sure 🤓

[prisma island]

that's
what i was trying to say

instead of being a weeb about japan he's being a weeb about the ancients

[long breach]

ong 💀

[fleet ocean]

never getting ovwe this gmae

game

||whyd they have to make the final boss ACTUALLY SCARY!!||

[thin forge]

literally every other modern kirby game:

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[paper herald]

wait how much is there?

[prisma island]

||for starters, the Ethereal Altar is literally called Room of Eden in JPN||

[vocal latch]

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Baro#8858 - #[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

||• His design incorporates the color yellow as it is seen as the "color of betrayal in Christianity" according to concept art
• The Master Crown's scales and coiling horns are reminiscent of a snake
• The first Magolor Day was on Easter 2017, Magolor Epilogue (where he "resurrects") reveals that it is right before his appearance in Team Kirby Clash Deluxe
• The "Lor" (or ロア) in Magolor's name means「楽園」in the Jambastion language, it can translate as "paradise" or "Eden"
• Magolor calls Halcandra the「約束の地」"The Promised Land" in Extra Mode
• The Ethereal Altar's Japanese name is「エデンの間」"Room of Eden", a reference on the Garden of Eden
• Magolor gathers the Fruit Fragments into the Red Fruit (which is an apple), which seems to be inspired by the Fruit of Knowledge (often depicted as an apple)
• When the Master Crown fuses itself with the Red Fruit, it becomes a tree, potentially a reference to the Tree of Knowledge and the Original Sin||

Quoted by Baro#8858 • [352190357880045579] · Mar 6, 2023, 9:48 PM

[austere willow]

doesnt Leongar call something a promsied lad

[peak dagger]

I think he has the "world of dreams" line

[cursive sandal]

Land of dreams

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Baro#8858 - #[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

LEONGAR (KIRBY AND THE FORGOTTEN LAND)
かつて、この地に 住んでいた者たちは
このお方から キセキの力を さずかり…
その力で かなた 夢の大地へと
飛び立って いったのだ。
The ones formerly living in this land were blessed with the power of miracles from this honorable one…
They flew off to a distant land of dreams with that power.

Track 102, the theme that plays in the exterior of the Lor area in Halcandra, is called...「夢にまでみた大地は」according to DeepL "The land of my dreams is"

Quoted by Baro#8858 • [352190357880045579] · Mar 6, 2023, 11:07 PM

[vocal latch]

Tbh

I kind-of wish Forgo Dreams and Magolor Epilogue had bad endings LOL, not sure how it'd have to work for Epilogue though

[leaden terrace]

Leon stays fucking dead 😭

[lost briar]

so true

[thin prairie]

has kirby ever had to face the realization of death lol?

[lost briar]

honestly it confused me how the beast pack apparently had Leon's soul the entire time

... or how they even got to Forgo Land to begin with but I guess that's a lesser issue than the soul thing

[vocal latch]

I guess ||it isn't that much of a shame for Epilogue because you still have True Arena for the worst fate of Magolor LOL||

[leaden terrace]

My idea is that they found the rest of Leon's soul fragments

which Kirby couldn't find because he knew Leon less than they did

[thin prairie]

ig after forcing out forgo out of leon it spilled out the rest of the soul fragments

[leaden terrace]

||giving Magolor 2 bad endings would be too mean lol||

[lost briar]

but then the game lied

[leaden terrace]

Magolor

[peak dagger]

My thought is that Forgo knocked the pieces out of him again when possessing him. The Beast Pack had been on their way to help and were there just in time to gather up the rescattered pieces and save the day

[granite cedar]

Kirby series broke and destroyed all laws of physics

[vapid kestrel]

No but The Noble Haltmann does

(L Localization reminder)

[ocean mauve]

lmao this is a good mental image

[royal oxide]

Magolor vs Magolor
https://youtu.be/K8pYIRX7hXQ

[ocean mauve]

persona 4

[vast vapor]

so true

[covert jasper]

who is this Magalor character are they new

[vocal latch]

Is it the same words?

As Magolor's new EX dialogue

[leaden terrace]

this reminds me

where have people been getting this "magolor wanted the master crown so he can save the universe" or smth along those words from

[vocal latch]

LOL

[lofty condor]

What was he gonna save the universe from
Himself lol

[leaden terrace]

idk

😭

[vocal latch]

I prefer the crack theory in Japan that he wanted it to make a theme park 😭

[leaden terrace]

yeah ill be honest i prefer this

i really dont get where some people get this from

[vocal latch]

Well what I always found interesting

[leaden terrace]

its got to be the most generic theory

[vocal latch]

Iirc in the JP version of his speech he says he wants to rule "this land" (Halcandra) before going "no! The entire universe"

[leaden terrace]

or assumption

[vocal latch]

But in localization it was "your" I think

Which made it a bit funny to me

[leaden terrace]

i still dont know what benefit comes from ruling halcandra so i kinda get the localization lol

[vocal latch]

Because he later gets the idea to rule Popstar in the same scene lol

It still works but yea

I just find it funny

[vocal latch]

It's a cool place

[leaden terrace]

i genuinely dont know why people want magolor to be good so badly

hes a bitch

he lied to u

[vocal latch]

I like him because he's an asshole lmao

[leaden terrace]

more than once

[vocal latch]

Saying he did nothing wrong is just a joke I like to say

[pliant socket]

I think magolor is a scope shot hater (derogatory)

[vocal latch]

I don't get people who actually think that

[pliant socket]

Considering that he cut it from his theme park

[leaden terrace]

Magolor is my best friend he would never do wrong

Sure he almost killed me but thats in the past

[pliant socket]

So I will allow him to rule the world if it means we get scope shot

[vocal latch]

MPS you prefer Pupupu Hero Magolor right

[pliant socket]

I prefer any magolor

[leaden terrace]

im going to read the novels just so i can see 100% asshole magolor

[pliant socket]

Wasn't the pupupu hero one the magolor that uh had a chilly crush all over him for some reason

[vocal latch]

It's the one with SCOPE SHOT

[novel fog]

yeah, it is funny lol

[vocal latch]

That's why Scope Shot isn't in the remake btw

It would've been funny if Scope Shot was in the Lor but not in Magoland tbh

[pliant socket]

PEAKKKKKK

PEAKKKKK

[novel fog]

especially with the whole 支配人 vs 支配者 thing lol

[vapid kestrel]

Yep, 約束の地

[vapid kestrel]

Misinformation tweet from Hyper Seap

[vocal latch]

Epic

[vapid kestrel]

They corrected themselves in a reply but it was an entire thread of tweets so you had to expand replies throughout the thread of tweets to find his correction

Oops wrong reply

[vocal latch]

Doubt that the song was actually about that ofc lol

[leaden terrace]

i dont even know how they got that conclusion

OH

[vocal latch]

Unless Susie was stranded in Halcandra, then the lyrics would be kinda fucked up LOL

[leaden terrace]

i didnt read the full thread

[vapid kestrel]

They misunderstood "Save the universe, Lor... and Magolor"

[leaden terrace]

i just stumbled upon it in search and was like "???"

[vocal latch]

Yeah Hyper Seap is a huge Magolor apologist

[leaden terrace]

OH they assumed Lor and Magolor would save the universe

lol

😭

[ocean mauve]

funny syntax error

[vocal latch]

LOL

[ocean mauve]

the use of an ellipsis instead of a comma makes it easier to misinterpret lol

[leaden terrace]

time to eat grandma

[ocean mauve]

if it said "save the universe, lor, and magolor" it's less likely to be misread

but I get why they wanted the dramatic effect lol

[vapid kestrel]

They just needed the word 'even'

Save the universe, Lor... and even Magolor!

[ocean mauve]

true!

[vapid kestrel]

bam fixed

There is a soshite in Jp before Magolor

Which is like 'and then' or 'thus'

[solar harbor]

What the fuck

[vocal latch]

I remember Hyper Seap also saying stuff like "Oh Magolor wanting to rule Popstar first, but then wanting to rule the entire universe is from the crown's influence" which ig ||with new lore, it could be||, but idk i always saw that as him just being excited over his limitless power

[leaden terrace]

same

i always see him as someone who loves to go to the extremes if it means getting bigger reactions and bigger satisfaction

[vocal latch]

Yeah!

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[leaden terrace]

its basically how i literally wrote about my magolor interpretation before deluxe came out

[vocal latch]

You even literally see this with Epilogue where he maxes out his abilities

[leaden terrace]

though the only difference was that he felt really guilty about betraying kirby (but not necessarily his own past crimes) so he had to make up for it on an equally extreme measure and thats why he made merry magoland

[novel fog]

though to be fair, I still do not get why he would have wanted to rule Halcandra lol

[vocal latch]

It's a cool place

[leaden terrace]

yeah id like to rule a desolate ruins too

[vocal latch]

Rule all Halcandle Dees by giving them a special theme park

[novel fog]

yeah but who are you gonna rule over, a robot and some dragon?

[vocal latch]

Tbh I wish Halcandle Dees appeared in Magoland 😭

[novel fog]

true
make every place a theme park

[vocal latch]

Halcandle Dees

The best creatures

[novel fog]

I mean that isn't much lol

[vocal latch]

But they're the best creatures

I mean he probably just wanted to rule it because of all the cool stuff it has ig

[novel fog]

they're cute, but they don't do the most

don't even have any cool spear-wielding ones

[novel fog]

maybe?? but what does it have on it besides some robots, Lor, and the Crown

[vocal latch]

I feel like his reasoning would've made more sense back before they retconned him to not be Halcandran tbh

[novel fog]

yeah lol

[vocal latch]

Who knows, I mean, he thought the Lor was a fairytale til he found it on Haldera Volcano

Maybe Halcandra hides more stuff?

[ocean mauve]

maybe he's a boomer who wants to bring back the ancients or their way of life

[novel fog]

maybe? but where is it, you'd think it'd be around the volcano too

[vocal latch]

Underground

[tawdry mulch]

Isn't there like some ice labyrinth under the volcano or something

[novel fog]

lmao imagine digging down to find it and falling through the planet

[thin forge]

||guys why the volcano look like a big tree||

[novel fog]

no?

[thin forge]

||foreshadowing moment!!!!1!!||

[ocean mauve]

||so did the master crown bring about the destruction of halcandra or did master crown just show that to fuck with magolor||

[novel fog]

there's a few blocks of it but lol

ain't really too cold

[lofty condor]

||I think it’s highly implied it did||

||I don’t really see any other candidates aside from maybe Galacta||

[thin forge]

||it looks like fire is raining from the sky in their arena which the crown doesnt do at all in its attacks. i think it just wanted a cool background from smth that was already happening (the volcanic eruption)||

[solar harbor]

||Kinda a mix of both, the backdrop being projected may be to show its true power and probably intimidate Magolor I guess?||

[tawdry mulch]

I thought they mentioned a cold labyrinth in the novel

Where Magolor found the Lor and ignored the other shit in there

[lofty condor]

||And considering it teleported him to that exact time where it’s being destroyed, it’s definitely responsible for it lol||

[vast vapor]

he melted the ice labyrinth

[vocal latch]

||Can't wait when a new Clash has Parallel Mage Sisters & Parallel Magolor ||

[tawdry mulch]

||Erm......... Theyre called..... Retaliators now..... Maybe you should read up on the new information........ ||

||Why did they do that actually why were they even Parallel in the first place||

[novel fog]

yeah but we don't see anything like this game-wise either way so lol

[tawdry mulch]

Novel real so ermm

Krby HATES Magoloe

[vocal latch]

||They aren't Parallel bosses in HiAD, just Retaliators. Their skin is from Hyness draining their energy, the white clothes might be similar to how Magolor got monochrome and white and green respectively.

When I say Parallel Mage Sisters I was throwing around an idea that the bad ending has then become that (or well, more accurate is probably Corrupt Mage Sisters)||

[novel fog]

and they never said exactly how cold it was, just it made it seem the heat on the surface was a lie

a bit of the other novel stuff does not match with RTDL DX anyway

[vocal latch]

Yeah, novels are just adaptations, not in the same universe.

[tawdry mulch]

Magolor got the Lor from the thrift store all is solved

[ruby narwhal]

Now that ||clash is confirmed semi-canon|| people are speculating a lot more about it and actually taking it seriously

[vocal latch]

Good.

[ruby narwhal]

It was all a ruse by magolor so he can use gem apple funds to improve upgrade magoland in the future

[leaden terrace]

as it deserved

[tawdry mulch]

This is me

I've already sifted through a bit of stuff there's honestly a lot of interesting things to be found

[vapid kestrel]

||Tbh that made way more sense before the reveal that he wasn't actually born here||

[vocal latch]

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Baro#8858 - #[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

I feel like his reasoning would've made more sense back before they retconned him to not be Halcandran tbh

Quoted by Baro#8858 • [352190357880045579] · Mar 16, 2023, 1:07 PM

[vocal latch]

[vapid kestrel]

fcuk

[leaden terrace]

owned !!

[vapid kestrel]

I'm convinced there's something going on with their color scheme and that weird line in their Jp description about them 'imploring the dark god'

[vapid kestrel]

Their skin is from Hyness draining their energy
They regain their normal skin color when you knock them out of Void Termina's cocoon things though

[novel fog]

I mean, if Guest Star happened in main world then they would have still been drained

since Hyness drains them there

now the color of the clothing is a mystery lol
does Another Dimension just like turning clothes white?

[hexed current]

Another Dimension: mmm fabric dye my favorite

[vapid kestrel]

Honestly I just assumed they'd gain their colors back once Hyness lost his connection to them

[novel fog]

I don't think it'd work that way lol

[vapid kestrel]

I mean considering they regain their color from being released from Void's connection to them, it's not like you did something to restore their colors

[novel fog]

well yeah, that is weird
but either way they had the color up to that point, and the draining wasn't just color of their skin and stuff, it was energy/HP too, do they just magically get that back too?

like how does this stuff work

[vapid kestrel]

[vocal latch]

In Guest Star they get drained again

and guess what mode also connects to HiAD

[novel fog]

I already said that

[vocal latch]

Oh fuck Ultrby mentioned it already

[vapid kestrel]

Star Slam Heroes

[vocal latch]

I got ratio'd

Oh yea I did a funny New Overlord motif video lol (Epilogue spoilers)

[junior fiber]

oh this is nice

[vapid kestrel]

Love this credits image

[vocal latch]

same

[novel fog]

love how all three of those has Judgment of the Malus Pumila motif too and are by same composer lol

all three of them are by Yuki Shimooka

[vocal latch]

yea

[covert jasper]

hmm interesting, I have another I put on wikirby

https://wikirby.com/wiki/File:KRtDLD_Settling_a_Score_Atone_for_Ones_Misdeeds_-_Welcome_Your_New_Overlord.mp3

[tawdry mulch]

Latest thing I've been on with this is ||King D-Minds close parallels with Void Termina. And how King D Mind of all things in this holy world may actually help us understand Void a little more||

Which is funny considering ||D-Mind predates Termina lmaooo||

[novel fog]

oh yeah they also all have Magolor, the Distant Traveler in them of course lol

[vocal latch]

OH

THE SONG THAT SOUNDS LIKE WORLD TO WIN IS ACTUALLY JUST THE NEW OVERLORD MOTIF LOL

[leaden terrace]

yeah lol

[vocal latch]

I didn't even realize it's New Overlord motif 😭

[leaden terrace]

i guess the main distinguishing part is the act that its 3 notes each

[vocal latch]

Yeah

[leaden terrace]

while world to wi only has 1

iirc

[covert jasper]

shimooka is four parallel universes ahead of us

(for real though guy is insane)

I only noticed it because lately half of my brain is welcome to your new overlord

[leaden terrace]

Kirby fans when they have to listen to another new banger from the Kirby composers

https://tenor.com/view/ffxiv-louisoix-final-fantasy-gif-15070709

[junior fiber]

lmao

[granite cedar]

Kirby fans when they have to experience another new banger from the Kirby

[tawdry mulch]

So tired of bangers can they just make some bad songs smh

[granite cedar]

i gotcha covered

google "kirby tilt and tumble ost"

enjoy yourself

[covert jasper]

actually tilt n tumble OST wasn't made by kirby composers

explains a lot

[jolly valve]

New challenge: Smash an egg everytime someone spells it as Magalor

[vocal latch]

(Epilogue spoiler lol) the funny intro

[jolly valve]

Dundundun

[odd rover]

It took like 12 years for Welcome Your New Overlord to even get another partial remix

[austere willow]

tbh

since its Shimooka's track i dont think the ATONE FOR MISDEEDS one is actually referencing World to Win

[vocal latch]

Well I think it was inspired by it personally

Not a reference

[austere willow]

eh

[vocal latch]

If it was a reference, it'd be the literal motif

[leaden terrace]

which is totally fine because welcome your new overlord is already perfect and doesnt need more :)

[austere willow]

maybe

[vocal latch]

But it's not

it's just New Overlord motif

[vocal latch]

NEVERMIND

MY DUMBASS FUCKED THE NAME UP

[junior fiber]

minor spelling mistake

[covert jasper]

errrrmm the kirby wii music selection remix

[vocal latch]

11 years

I hope it gets remixed more now tho

[solar harbor]

I like CROWNED but I think Welcome your New Overlord deserves even more remixes

When I first heard about the Magolor medley (Supreme Ruler's Coronation ~ OVERLORD) in Star Allies, I was expecting it to have Welcome your New Overlord in its medley, but it didn't come out

[leaden terrace]

that is true

[solar harbor]

Though Light MetaS' remix of it makes up for it by adding the song, and it sounds fucking rocks

[leaden terrace]

it does need to be used in more songs

[vocal latch]

Ok HERE (epilogue spoiler again)

[leaden terrace]

nothing beats the original for me though

[vocal latch]

final version (I hope)

[novel fog]

to be fair, there's already a bit of motifs in that song lol

stuff like CROWNED, Dangerous Dinner, Fly! Kirby, Limitless Power, Road to Victory, Sky Tower, etc.

probably more I missed lol

||I like how well it goes with Magolor Soul True Arena battle||

[vocal latch]

same

||I wonder if future remakes will do something similar, like playing King D-Mind's theme on Shadow Dedede now||

[novel fog]

||also it being used there means all the Wave 3 Dream Friends (besides maybe Three Mage Sisters) have had new versions of their Morpho battle theme outside of Star Allies||

[vocal latch]

Tbh I love ~OVERLORD~ but I feel the intro sounds weaker than in the OG CROWNED lol

[novel fog]

still fits, I like it

[vocal latch]

It's fantastic but I prefer the intro of OG lol

It's an absolute banger tho

[leaden terrace]

it doesnt have that violin

so its always gonna be inferior

that being said the rest of ~OVERLORD~ is so much better than crowned

[vocal latch]

YEAH

TRUE

But that violin man

||does anyone have the full RTDX version of OVERLORD rn?||

I wanna cook something

Like as MP3 file

[leaden terrace]

we probably never getting something that goes as hard as that intro

ngl

not that i dont put my faith in the compoers to somehow do it again

[solar harbor]

Someone should mod in ||Light MetaS' remix of OVERLORD into the Magolor Soul fight in the True Arena. I had it playing in my headphones while doing the battle as Meta Knight and it fucking slaps.||

[ocean mauve]

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LuigiBlood#9296 - #[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe OST
MP3: https://mega.nz/file/QcZxBLjA#HpSq2iSBqsadNCZVd-8JGnAEz4SQ166oMl3qEOz90uo
FLAC: https://mega.nz/file/RJRHTIxI#ABB0SXVuaG9EAqzzU11By1NvoljoT4W_eBX6Rehvs0g

Quoted by meowtactic#3259 • [90489652095496192] · Mar 6, 2023, 7:31 PM

[vocal latch]

ok I got it

thx tho

[solar harbor]

||Best timing for it is right after Road to Victory and when the intro part of CROWNED first plays.||

[faint galleon]

||OVERLORD may be one of the best final boss themes...||

[leaden terrace]

this is true

[prisma island]

It's a prime example of how the mood/vibe of a song can drastically change if you change only the context, not the song itself

||In Star Allies it was pretty badass, almost as if it was warning Morpho that he was fighting the final boss, not the other way around
In RtDL-DX's True Arena it sounds almost tragic||

[leaden terrace]

||https://youtu.be/4DfFYVmL2sI?t=151 || ||that awiibo vid had like this timing on the transition to phase 2 how it just transitions to green greens around the time magolor soul opens its evil eye and its like, the coolest thing ever||

it made me love the song 1000x times

[faint galleon]

||TRUE TRUE TRUE ITS THE RAWEST THING||

||I THOUGHT THAT WAS SCRIPTED WHEN I SAW IT||

[leaden terrace]

IT WENT SO HAAAAAAAAAARD

i only wished that transition was faster JUST so it would time. the only timeline we lost

[vocal latch]

||combined Magolor Soul's True Arena defeat animation with Last Battle lol||

[leaden terrace]

||wow i did not know it ends like that||

what a fucking harsh chord they ended it on

[vocal latch]

||YEAH that's why I wanted to do that lol||

[leaden terrace]

that unironically made it even sadder lol

[vocal latch]

Yeah :(

[full sail]

i love magolor

[prisma island]

[pliant socket]

[prisma island]

He's my favorite little shit

[pliant socket]

My emoji is BETTER

[prisma island]

[pliant socket]

So true....

[prisma island]

I am a notorious emoji thief

[floral mantle]

is Magolor an Egg, or a Cat?

Or both?

[prisma island]

Yes

[pliant socket]

Yes

[leaden terrace]

he a egger

[pliant socket]

egger??? like egger engines rtdl????

[prisma island]

He was put in a Cat Day Kirby Twitter artwork but also throwing him into Cook Kirby's pot in Star Allies produces a fried egg 🍳

[floral mantle]

Egg Cat

[austere willow]

perfect

[floral mantle]

scarfy's a cat!?

[prisma island]

It may be because of the anime but I've always seen Scarfy as being based on some kind of pet

[solar harbor]

And it has cat ears

You know what's funny about Scarfy in the anime, we almost never see it transform into its one eye gremlin form once

[lofty condor]

||God the music makes it so depressingly horrifying||

[leaden terrace]

YEAH

not to sound dramatic but it really sounded like ||this wasnt mean to happen and youre just left with the realization of what you just witnessed||

[vocal latch]

glad y'all like the edit lol

[leaden terrace]

its rly goo

OH YEAH I KNOW WHY THIS HIT ME SO MUCH

it sounds like the ||main story's magolor chase cutscene where the music cuts short to a more cinematic ending||

[prisma island]

I've been wanting to draw serious comics revolving around the final true arena fight and y'all ain't helping rofl

[blissful yoke]

I've been trying to make ||true arena magolor soul|| art for a while and couldn't come close to the same vibes 😭

[prisma island]

Just the fact they ||explicitly inaugurated Magolor into the Kirby Characters That Have Been Possessed Club and went on to highlight how badly it affected him when it's usually glossed over|| has been on my mind for a concerning amount of time

[blissful yoke]

YEAH

[vocal latch]

silly scarf & triangle-pattern wearing fellas

[spark lotus]

Drawcia too

..and Dedede too technically, it's kind of a weird reoccuring pattern

[blissful yoke]

I drew this a bit ago but eh

[spark lotus]

in Nutty Noon's stages as well

[vocal latch]

Love it

[leaden terrace]

you should see my pin.

in this thread.

[vocal latch]

Yeah Dark Matter Blade's pattern is identical to Dedede's (fitting)

[blissful yoke]

Thats more like.. a cape i think

[ocean mauve]

that's so awesome

[leaden terrace]

its rly nice

[blissful yoke]

Ty dhdk

[ruby narwhal]

Also with this new lore ||and the design of the master crown boss|| we can finally confirm that ||the eye on magolor isn’t related to dark matter but just the master crown’s||

[leaden terrace]

yep

i like the sound of that tbh

[tawdry mulch]

I love how Soul and normal Magolor 2 have different screams like HAL really wanted an excuse to make two eldritch shrieks

[leaden terrace]

||that the evil eye doesnt only belong to dark matter||

[vocal latch]

||I think the eye is related to dark matter (闇の物質) in-general.||

[tawdry mulch]

||I assume he has the eye cause the Crown has darkness within it lmao||

[vocal latch]

||As in, the substance.||

[blissful yoke]

||with the crown being specifically described as a "one eyed wreath" its probably from the crown yea lmao||

[vapid kestrel]

I mean tbh if you go 'dark matter' at the sight of an eye in 2023 I'm 🤨

[spark lotus]

||though there's still the whole "obsession and hatred" thing||

[leaden terrace]

makes eye contact iwth a human being

DARK MATTER

[tawdry mulch]

What else would you call evil dark one eyed beings that possess people

[vocal latch]

||I also like to think the eye on the Master Crown is a remnant of the Jambandra-Halcandra prosperity shit||

[prisma island]

Oh I've seen it I wanna stay on the feels trip tho

[vapid kestrel]

I'm instead going to go "Master Crown!" every time I see Dark Matter

[blissful yoke]

As you should

[leaden terrace]

fair same

[lofty condor]

Holy shit the Master Crown

[tawdry mulch]

Easier to relate to dark matter than say "omg it's a disembodied being of darkness similar to other beings of darkness!! "

[ruby narwhal]

I hate how whenever light or darkness a bought up in Kirby there are those people who immediately go to dark matter

[vocal latch]

I mean, there's a difference between the established substance/matter, and the character at least

[vapid kestrel]

Me calling every final boss in Zelda a reincarnation of Demise

[leaden terrace]

i will do more comics if need be 😁

[ruby narwhal]

“Oh, this room is dark, must be a sign of dark matter”

[leaden terrace]

i am very good at that

[blissful yoke]

Real

[vocal latch]

I wanna do some horrible things after reading that sentence

[tawdry mulch]

I feel like everyone gets what it means when you call evil dark one eyed thing dark matter unless you're being obtuse lmfao

[leaden terrace]

me when i see the color black "ZOMG its dark"

[covert jasper]

no way... that's why they changed the name in portuguese... it's C for crown/coroa 🤯

[craggy sable]

C-Z?

[fathom cradle]

It's c for coragem

[covert jasper]

for some reason

[leaden terrace]

why is it called N-Z exactly

[vocal latch]

N-Z = Neo Zero

[craggy sable]

MORE LIKE E-Z

[covert jasper]

DFGVGJFDJXVFSDJKGJKSD KING

[vocal latch]

[pliant socket]

wtf....they knew ‼️

[novel fog]

could also be for Normal Zako

[ocean mauve]

nonzinary

[vocal latch]

You forgot A-M from DL3?

[novel fog]

because it is a basic enemy

[vapid kestrel]

But I love zines

[pliant socket]

Zamn...

[vocal latch]

Yeah lol

[ocean mauve]

no more zines for you

wtf is a zine again

[covert jasper]

neutral-zero

[craggy sable]

Magazine

[ocean mauve]

ohh ty

[covert jasper]

naddle-zee

[vapid kestrel]

no zitches

[vocal latch]

Zero
Neutral Zero
Dark Zero

[leaden terrace]

o..

[ocean mauve]

Not Zero

[craggy sable]

Meow I'm spreading misinformation

[novel fog]

nah obviously it is 'Not Zero'

[leaden terrace]

Hey if theres dark zero wheres bright zero

[ocean mauve]

Wait what I thought that was what it came from

[vapid kestrel]

zine is in fact short frrom magazine but people use it more for like

fan artbooks ig

[ocean mauve]

ahhh ok

[vocal latch]

YOU ASKED FOR IT HUARGHHHHHHHHHH

[vapid kestrel]

no way nark zind

[leaden terrace]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[tawdry mulch]

Why he look like that 😟

[craggy sable]

Meow I accidentally spread correct facts on the internet

[leaden terrace]

o..

[floral mantle]

oh look, it's Dark Mid

[lofty condor]

C-Zeez nuts 🔥

[leaden terrace]

Erm, OK!! 4MIDuser /j

[vocal latch]

because he WILL DARK MIND ALL OVER THE PLACE!!!!!!!!

get DARK MINDED

[fathom cradle]

King D-Mid...

[vocal latch]

D-MINDED

[craggy sable]

D-Minded?

Mindless?

[leaden terrace]

Based and D-Pilled

[tawdry mulch]

HOW

[craggy sable]

Thoughtless, Head empty

[lofty condor]

Dark Mind fancam

[floral mantle]

Dark Mind? More like Dark Mid

[vocal latch]

I need to make this an actual fancam LOL

[floral mantle]

Imagine having the credits roll during your boss fight

[craggy sable]

Master Crown?

More like Master Clown

[tawdry mulch]

Do you think all the one eyed "Dark" guys know each other have they talked about evil schemes

[craggy sable]

...Because Magolor is a Je-

[fathom cradle]

Lol Dark crafter coming in like

[floral mantle]

no, they haven't met each other since last Christmas.

[tawdry mulch]

Dark Crafter probably doesn't get invited to any functions

[covert jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-gif-25799821

[leaden terrace]

dark nebula was constantly rejected

[vapid kestrel]

Dark Mind: Dark Mind
Star Dream: Mother Computer
Star Dream stealing Haltmann's body: Mind Controlled By a Program
Dark Mind inhabiting DDD: King D-Mind
Star Dream mechanizing Dark Mind: Dark Mind Controlled By a Program
Therefore this will be what happens in Planet Robobot Z

[craggy sable]

Dark Crafter had a major color addiction

[tawdry mulch]

Me when I'm dark matter and decide to become a fucking clay monster with sun glasses

[craggy sable]

They had to be let go after... the incident

[floral mantle]

Dark Matter: Come back when you can pick up a fight.

Dark Nebula: sad noise

[tawdry mulch]

He was trying to revolutionize fashion and failed miserably

[vocal latch]

Me when Dark Crafter just wanted to be a colorful being :((((((( extremely sad #rip #deep

[craggy sable]

Also they literally possessed god, you can't get away with that

[floral mantle]

Dude's got some cool shades tho

[fathom cradle]

Prz is a good acronym

[faint glen]

Dark nebula was actually trapped in a chest by the other dark matter guys, they did it as a prank

[novel fog]

this reminds me, wish someone would document all the keychain sets on the main menu of TDX (and stickers sets in Robobot), assuming they aren't random

[craggy sable]

Claycia is god right?

[vapid kestrel]

Przdent Haltmann

[vocal latch]

They 100% aren't random

I really doubt they are

The sets match too much each time

[tawdry mulch]

Claycia is probably god

She literally makes life

[fathom cradle]

Once you get enough there's definitely sets

[vocal latch]

Yeah

ig it's random before that tho

[vapid kestrel]

Claycia making shit out of clay but the game is no longer in a clay artstyle:

[fathom cradle]

[tawdry mulch]

Claycia making things out of HUMAN FLESH AIIYYEEE

[vocal latch]

I remember seeing people think Claycia and Elline are the creators of Drawcia and Paintra lol

[fathom cradle]

We have 5 claycia emotes

[vocal latch]

Claycia SWEEP

[tawdry mulch]

What if they are 😳

[vapid kestrel]

My reaction to that information

[craggy sable]

We need Rainbow Curse Lore

[ruby narwhal]

Yo that edit is fire

[vocal latch]

Thanks LOL

[vapid kestrel]

So is that eyeball

[craggy sable]

Enough of the canvas curse nonsense we literally destroyed an entire family

[floral mantle]

Drawcia and Paintra when their sister talk about Kirby:

[tawdry mulch]

Is the world actually made of clay???? Does it take place in the clay verse?????

[vocal latch]

No, see

Everything in Kirby is made of clay

and color (paint) brings it to life

[tawdry mulch]

Derp clay lore

DEEP

[vocal latch]

I did not steal this from Faye's old reddit post

[craggy sable]

This is the universe where Kirby is permenently ball

[vocal latch]

I totally didn't take that from there

[faint glen]

I do feel strongly that rainbow curse is its own universe

[craggy sable]

But no he can very much walk and jump like normal

[faint glen]

But. How it connects to canvas i have no idea

[tawdry mulch]

Clay verse!!!!!!!

[fathom cradle]

🖌️

[craggy sable]

It's just that he's stuck with the Ball Ability the entire game

[floral mantle]

Me when Claycia sees a Orange-clay butterfly:

[tawdry mulch]

Canvas curse is also in the clay verse but it got turned into a painting so we don't see the clay

[floral mantle]

imagine... Clay Morpho Knight

[faint glen]

Ok

Ok done imagining it

[craggy sable]

https://tenor.com/view/slime-colorful-squishy-stretchy-satisfying-gif-16762551

[floral mantle]

How awesome is it?

[faint glen]

Its ok

[novel fog]

yeah, though sometimes I question if they are set or if I'm just going crazy

[craggy sable]

Me when the boss is clay

[faint glen]

Id rather fight elline's idea of what meta knight looks like

Maybe meta knight does look like that in that universe

[novel fog]

because no one has documented the sets anywhere and stuff

[tawdry mulch]

🤯

[floral mantle]

... phantom thief meta knight?

[leaden terrace]

more like tuxedo mask

[tawdry mulch]

The eternal question is if this is a reference to Ellines drawing or the one Star Warrior that looks similar to this

A fusion of references

[vocal latch]

my dumbass is doing SMEX with Magolor again and I'm trying to use Epilogue strats 😭😭😭

[long breach]

balan wonderland looking ah ☠️

[vale river]

me when I use Magolor Surge backwards and forwards through the-- oh 💀

[vocal latch]

YEAH

[vale river]

at least you have Ultra Sword now

[vocal latch]

TRUEEEEEEEE

[junior fiber]

bitches be like "i have my whole life ahead of me" no lmao, the Magolor Surge is coming 😆

[austere willow]

sexy

[long breach]

that was unnecessary

[junior fiber]

dark mind fan cam goes hard

[vocal latch]

you think Hyness if he ever visited Halcandra would just do the Planet of the Apes ending

https://tenor.com/view/planet-of-the-apes-snacks-gif-26435442

[spark lotus]

the fact I know which flashback star warrior you're talking about

pretty generic masquerade mask though. I remember trying to design an OC with a unique one that was specifically meant to make them look attractive and, man, is it difficult.. the generic masquerade mask is already peak

[vocal latch]

Hyness when he sees Halcandra after centuries (it's like dogshit now)

[junior fiber]

halcandra dee looking at him

[long breach]

they aren’t dees are they

[spark lotus]

yeah TIL Halcandra Dee is a fanon name

[floral mantle]

wait, so what's their real name?

[spark lotus]

are they unnamed in JP though?

[long breach]

why not just call them halcandrians

[vocal latch]

Official name is Halcandle Dee

[long breach]

no

it’s halcandrans

[floral mantle]

ハルカンドルディ

[spark lotus]

well, it works, but that's kinda general

[floral mantle]

How you translate this?

[long breach]

how

[spark lotus]

oh so they ARE dees

[long breach]

no

[vocal latch]

Halcandle Dee is literally their official name wdym

[floral mantle]

ハルカンドルディ wait, how you translate this?

[long breach]

where

what source

[vocal latch]

JP guidebook iirc

official one

and afterwards in other stuff too probs

[long breach]

alright fine

[vocal latch]

Halcandle Dee lol

[long breach]

makes no sense tho

what’s the meaning of “dee”

waddle dees and halcandran dees aren’t related at all

[spark lotus]

Wad"dle Dee" Halcan"dle Dee"

[junior fiber]

there's also sectra dees

[long breach]

so popstar is actually wad

[spark lotus]

Sectle Dees in jp apparently

[long breach]

popstar is wadandria

☠️☠️☠️

[junior fiber]

wadandria

[spark lotus]

and yet Waddle Dees aren't native to forgotten land

[long breach]

yes 💀

[lofty condor]

Metal General:

[floral mantle]

the Forgotten Land equivalent is Awoofies

[long breach]

awoofledees

awoodle dees

forgodle dees

forgottle dees

[spark lotus]

New Worldle

[long breach]

☠️☠️☠️☠️

[granite cedar]

LMAO BUT IMAGINE

we know that mages and hyness are currently just. travelling around

how big are the chances that he is like

"hey why not visit our old home"

[vocal latch]

YOU MANIACS

YOU BLEW IT UP

JAMBLAST YOU

JAMBLAST YOU ALL TO Yomi

[lofty condor]

"Damn bitch, you live here?"

[long breach]

you will jever be able to unjamfuck the jam’sgiving turkjam

guys i solved the language

[granite cedar]

magolor would point and laugh at hyness but then get his notebook and pen and be like "ok but lore details hmmmm?????????"

[long breach]

hyness is literally a living ancient right

magalor would quiz the living shit out of him ☠️

[granite cedar]

yup

i mean heck, what do you think his hood is stylized after 💀

hyness' species

[junior fiber]

hyness would counter quiz magolor back

[vocal latch]

Hyness "Why do you dress like you're me"

[granite cedar]

"bonjam! i love halcandra's culture so much!"

"oh he's a weeb"

[long breach]

“hOw Was tHe lor StARcuTTeR”
“cAn iT tALk”
“sO tElL mE mOrE aBoUt hOw YoU wErE bAnIshed”
“tEaCh mE yOur lAngUage”

[novel fog]

yeah
pretty sure filename is similar too

and JP name for Sectra Dee is also Sectle Dee lol

[long breach]

magalor would be that one annoying side character that just follows him around no matter where he goes

[floral mantle]

Magolor: "Would you like to buy 60000 Gem Apples? It's really cheap. It cost only 99.99"

[long breach]

99.99 jamcoins

[floral mantle]

: Where did you get so many?

[long breach]

so he can examine the currency

[vocal latch]

"Can you show me the holy book of legends?"

[long breach]

AH SO IT ALL STARTED WHEN…

[vale river]

(turns to audience)
"Sometimes, Grandpa Hyness likes to get a bit silly. He starts spouting nonsense and gets off topic easily."
"THEY TOOK IT FROM US! IT WAS OUR GOLDEN BOUNTY AND THEY BURIED IT DEEP IN THE EARTH TO TRY AND HIDE THE TRUTH!"
"See? He's just in his girlboss era. Lucky for you all, I've invented a machine that can help get him back to his senses! It uses cutting edge technology that the Ancients themselves likely used! Probably!"
"NOT THAT YOUR KIND WOULD EVER UNDERSTAND! YOU FAKERS OVERWHELMED US WITH YOUR LIES AND TURNED THE PEOPLE AGAINST US!"
"...right, anyways, introducing the Psychic Restabilizer! One wave of my magic wand and his mind will reset!"
🔨

[lofty condor]

https://tenor.com/view/squash-hammer-down-cartoons-smash-it-pound-it-gif-17800504

[vale river]

how to reign in your interview subjects 101 with Magolor

[long breach]

magalor the type of dude to murder your dog in minecraft and frame it on your best friend

with elaborate evidence

and if he gets caught pull the “whoopsie daisy it was an accident i thought it was a tree”

[fathom cradle]

Magolor when he unlocks the grand hammer

[vocal latch]

@austere willow hm...

[austere willow]

||why is the clash village and decisive battlefield there||

[vocal latch]

this sure is a pattern LOL

||Because the Decisive Battlefield has ruins of parts of Castle Village.||

[austere willow]

i dont think im referring to the ruins aspect

[austere willow]

im referring to the tall arena-esque architecture that surrounds the viewer in the bg with a lighter background behind it

[faint galleon]

What the fuck???

[vocal latch]

Oh ik, I just realized these 3 locations kinda share something in-common

[austere willow]

ruins?

[vocal latch]

||Specifically representing the ruined state of a place you already visited lol||

[lost briar]

that wasn't the reason you posted them??

[austere willow]

ohhhhhh

no i was doing the

this

because in the jp logo theres

and i was like

"That looks like the Divine Terminus"

[lost briar]

truly a shadow of the mirror cast across the galaxy

... or whatever

[austere willow]

https://cdn.wikirby.com/a/a6/KSA_HiAD_Altar_1_screenshot.png

[vocal latch]

OH

lol I see what u mean

[faint galleon]

Man the altar looks so beautiful

[vocal latch]

wait fuck I forgot to include Divine Terminus & Final Dimension LOL

oops

[austere willow]

i dont think u can have more than 6 images in a single post

[spark lotus]

interesting that that mysterious mirror battleground appears to be on rocks and not clouds

[ocean mauve]

you can have 10 if you mean discord

[austere willow]

huh

i guess its embeds that dont

[vocal latch]

I now genuinely wonder if Decisive Battlefield was meant to be Kirby Clash's counterpart to the Dimension Mirror's inside LOL

[spark lotus]

that's probably the best explanation, really

[ocean mauve]

oh yeah link embeds have a lower limit

[vocal latch]

Thing is

It wouldn't work with SKC

because it's a sequel and the mirror's gone there

[lost briar]

proves you wrong

[vapid kestrel]

Clearly Decisive Battlefield is the Clash Mirror World that you just so happened to reach through a regularr dimensional rift

[lost briar]

dammit i'm late, thanks internet

[spark lotus]

oh, you mean decisive battlefield is in SKC too?

[vocal latch]

Yeah lol

Every location from Deluxe appeared in SKC again

[spark lotus]

could also be some of that "Parallel Susie" /clones crap

[vocal latch]

wdym

[spark lotus]

yknow the whole.. interfereing with AD and causing the parallel bosses to be born..

[long breach]

clones are always way too confusing

[spark lotus]

||with epilogue|| and even the original RTDL ||the AD segments mimic other places||

[floral mantle]

Bandana Dee when he gets his Smash Invite:

[long breach]

imagine they add magalor or something instead as a fighter

[floral mantle]

I wouldn't mind...

as long as it's from a game that isn't:

• Adventure
• Dreamland
• Super Star (Except Bandana Dee)

[long breach]

sakurai adding dark meta knight daroach susie and drawcia before bandana waddle dee

[floral mantle]

Sakurai be adding Chef Kawasaki, Knuckle Joe, Marx before any other era (/j)

[long breach]

ong 💀

bronto burt for smash

[floral mantle]

watch they add Nightmare, a one-off villain, to smash before Bandana Dee

Ok... why isn't Kirby Slide a move?

[vast basin]

how many spinoffs do you guys think we'll get before our next mainline

[floral mantle]

1

[lost briar]

at least 2

assuming every 4 years we get a mainline

[floral mantle]

why they don't give Kirby his slide attack?

[faint glen]

He has it in rtdl?

[floral mantle]

I mean in Smash

[vocal latch]

||hey @vapid kestrel it'd still be accurate to translate kokoro as mind in the Master Crown description right? I thought of that one concept art where they mention how「頭脳を支配したように巻きつくクラウン」"The crown coils around as if it were taking control of his brain"||

[lost briar]

and we'll probably get smaller scale games every other year in between the mainline games

[vocal latch]

||ik kokoro also basically like is all 3 (mind heart soul) in meaning technically lol||

[lost briar]

Dream Buffet was a small project done by HAL themselves without Vanpool seemingly during the production of Forgotten Land

presumably came about as part of their experimentation with 3D

but all the other switch side-games were vanpool so like

i'm guessing this is what HD development means for the series now

[leaden terrace]

i mean if its used that way sure

[vocal latch]

||ofc heart and mind are kinda synonymous here anyway lol||

[leaden terrace]

||they translated kokoro as soul for dedede clone 2.0 iirc||

[vocal latch]

||And for Haltmann in Soul OS||

||For KPR you also have all 3 lol Soul OS, HEARTLESS MACHINE/PROGRAM, Mind in a Program/***Mind controlled by a program||

[leaden terrace]

ur right 😭

[junior fiber]

somehow now just realizing that magolor looks sad if you flip it

im glad with the design we got but i wouldn't mind this one either

[vale river]

just went back to Dream Buffet

Magolor has always been associated with gears, but it's interesting that his Magolor Cakes arena has two gears on either side of him

1. funny down smash joke

2. choosing gears over something like Gem Apples is interesting to me

[lost briar]

the weird part is how his costume even has a gear

and how the mage sisters don't even have their weapons

[coarse flower]

Persona 5 fans when they play RTDL 2-2

[tawdry mulch]

I would destroy HAL labs

My current idea is that it's Clash's state in the present. Dumpstered into AD like Halcandra (surely this is not a sign of anything important no siree)

This is major tinfoil hatting but the first fight there is Landia EX so hermmmmm master crown moment hermmmm

[spark lotus]

I was around the last time you brought it up and it's weird how I'm not recalling anything that like actually really contradicts your theory

besides it kind of interfering with ||the forgotten land's connection with the ancients|| anyway

[spark lotus]

but it really does explain why Landia with the master crown is just there. though if your theory is true the amount of casual time travel in the series boosts significantly which I'm not sure how to feel about.

We know the Lor time travels, AD can bring you to different places and times, Galacta Knight's always time travelling, and beam mages exist

one new thing that'd be time travelling is the Black Dimension Mirror, which I guess isn't that weird given its ties to AD

[vocal latch]

Well,
||-Dream Kingdom lacks technology
-It's in a Parallel, Halcandra is in another Dimension (these are separate terms)
-Magolor isn't interested in the Dream Kingdom, while he is obviously interested in Halcandra||

[spark lotus]

tbf since time travel is already a massive part of the theory you COULD just say it's even further in the past in regards to technology

but yeh I saw someone say it makes the world feel "small" and something about creativity and I kinda agree - if it's just some kind of alternate Pop Star you can't have crazy whacky species as the ancients or the heroes of yore, for instance

like it'd kinda feel like there's not much room for headcanon worldbuilding anymore

[peak dagger]

There's always room for headcanons

[tawdry mulch]

We love time travel in this house

[vocal latch]

||But the people of the New World are already pretty technological and had their technology of dreams||

[tawdry mulch]

Really need clash 3 now

[wintry turtle]

Bro they really gotta elaborate even more on AD and the star portals

[spark lotus]

I feel kinda bad, but casual time travel just kinda ruins everything in regards to timeline..

livin up to my name

[tawdry mulch]

I think in terms of technology it's just a different part of the world.|| We see unfamiliar structures in ME even though its clear they belong to Halcandra||

[peak dagger]

Plot twist, they do but it just makes it more confusing

[wintry turtle]

AUUUUUGH

[spark lotus]

well ||in ME near everything is modelled after the main story||

[vocal latch]

||That doesn't change the fact it resembles nothing of the New World's style tho||

||I doubt they suddenly went medieval lol||

[tawdry mulch]

||in terms of the parallel thing I really don't think we have enough information for this distinction to really mean anything yet tbh. And Magolor might not care about Dream Kingdom cause he knows it's doomed and is not trying to change the fate of this dead world||

[spark lotus]

so wait, in that theory, ||Halcandra is an alternate Pop Star, and what is the New World||?

[tawdry mulch]

||Shiver star real||

[spark lotus]

imo the whole ||"not knowing it's halcandra" thing feels a lot more likely. People call him a "weeb" as a joke but they kinda mean it, if you could go back in time to a place you endlessly researched and fanpersoned over, there's gotta be so many things you're curious about, why even research it if you would ditch it because it's doomed? You would ditch it because it's already gone by that logic||

||like halcandra is already ruined, how is being in the past of a doomed-but-not-yet world different than researching a ruined world? I can only see it as better in every way||

[tawdry mulch]

Lmfao poor dude is clueless

[spark lotus]

:/

oh you mean

nvm

[tawdry mulch]

I meant Magolor not you 😭

[full sail]

LMAO

[spark lotus]

oh ye i never interpreted as the latter thing we chill 👌

[tawdry mulch]

Magolor when he finds out it was Halcandra all along (he must go back to save it)

[spark lotus]

yeh I figured you were saying he's clueless like his logic was just flawed and not "he doesn't know it's halcandra"

[tawdry mulch]

Who tf knows what Magolors plans for altering destiny are. Actually maybe he can't. Does destiny exist in the kirby world. I guess a lot of the clash stuff does parallel main verse events despite being in the past

Destiny lore

That could be raw AF if the ancients were trying to like defy destiny or something lmao

[floral mantle]

they did built things like Nova...

[floral mantle]

Nova grant wishes, right?

[vocal latch]

yeah

One wish

[floral mantle]

Is there a wish it can't grant?

[vocal latch]

We don't know.

[spark lotus]

i dont think we know that

it did kinda fail in milky way wishes though.

[vocal latch]

Star Dream had a FATAL ERROR when it tried to grant Haltmann's wish

[floral mantle]

but wasn't it because... the person's still alive?

[vocal latch]

Well, it was in the process of making the wish, it was just stopped.

[vocal latch]

That's the common consensus

[spark lotus]

like it just started ominously going towards Pop Star to make Marx the new ruler, what was it planning to do? Oh I need to get closer very slowly.. when it WARPED there upon being summoned. Probably because of the Warp Stars though.

[vocal latch]

I'm pretty sure it was collisioning toward Popstar

it being a shooting star, called a comet and whatnot

Whatever Marx wanted his rule of Popstar to be, it def would've caused a loss of a lot of lives 💀

[floral mantle]

wait, so Kirby stopped it, right?

[spark lotus]

yeah, before it hit/got to pop star

[floral mantle]

I see...

[spark lotus]

broke the heart and nova just stopped moving until iconic nova death scene with marx

[peak dagger]

Yeah, whatever the plan was, Kirby stopped it

[spark lotus]

don't really know much about Nova's logic when granting wishes, I would think going off milky way wishes it uses efficiency with it's power

[floral mantle]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNzg1ZDFjM2U3MmRlY2EwMjE5Y2ZhMDBmOTlhNzU0YWMyMTlmMmE3MCZjdD1n/sQbUlk7ecWluW2jh3V/giphy.gif

[celest grove]

Nova seems to be having a good time

[spark lotus]

with Star Dream in the robobot what-if it seems implied it could tell what Meta Knight wanted without him even saying anything, so that works with the fanon you need to WANT a wish really badly in order for it to be granted i guess

makes wish granting comets less easily abused, I'd think?? Though marx still managed.. he didn't get the keys on his own though obvs

[celest grove]

Nova is just a neutral wish granting thing

Star Dream however...

seems to try to take action in advance

[vocal latch]

Well Star Dream became self-aware

it gained an ego

[celest grove]

which is its real problem

Doesn't need an ego

[lost briar]

it was one of those weird malfunctioning things i guess

[celest grove]

I think Star Dream only became self-aware when Haltmann put on the helmet

and Susie fucking up big time

[tawdry mulch]

Bringing someone back from AD I guess. Unless it's Galacta Knight lmao

[lost briar]

and susie stole it in the process

[celest grove]

However Star Dream most likely tried to process the wishes of Haltmann in advance before he needs to say it

[vocal latch]

Correct

[celest grove]

and that's where Star Dream is not smart

[tawdry mulch]

Although I assume the reason it could never complete the susie wish is cause it was incomplete

[celest grove]

no I think Star Dream is stupid

[lost briar]

i think there was supposed to be irony

[celest grove]

it only sees shit at face value

[vocal latch]

Well they've called Star Dream a broken/incomplete machine before lol

[tawdry mulch]

Dumb super computer

[celest grove]

it's a computer

it has no idea what feelings are

[tawdry mulch]

Syntax error smhh

[lost briar]

like, maybe it did bring back susie from another dimension
but by that time haltmann couldn't remember who susie was

[celest grove]

It was a cold machine

[lost briar]

idk, they never did explain how susie got back

but either way by the time she returned haltmann had lost his memories

[celest grove]

When Haltmann put on the helmet though, Susie stole it literally at the worst moment when it connects to Star Dream

making it malfunction

[tawdry mulch]

Haltmann: bring susie back from another dimension

Star Dream: what dimension

[celest grove]

and gain conscience

had she done it one second earlier

[tawdry mulch]

Susie toughed that shit out and came back herself like a boss

[celest grove]

it might have been a way different outcome

[tawdry mulch]

TRUE

I kinda wonder if Susie even knew that her being sent to AD wasn't supposed to happen. Cause she seems so chill about it lmfao

When she was in clash she was just like "yup this is part of the mechanization occupation project" does she know

[jolly valve]

I just realized that one of Crowned Magolor's concepts is just Phase 1 but upside down

[spark lotus]

makes me wonder how they always manage to summon Galacta Knight.. or if they do actually always manage to summon the same one.. o.o'' hm

[vocal latch]

I prefer the idea that Haltmann thought she died tbh

which is why it's a error; she's alive

[pliant socket]

spoiler that

[cursive sandal]

Isn't that what happened

[pliant socket]

thank ya

congrats btw

[quartz anvil]

thanks

[tawdry mulch]

That's the funniest syntax error of all time

Lol idiot thought she died

[vocal latch]

Common idea

[tawdry mulch]

I used to think that but now I find it too funny

Dumb rich guy didn't think to alter his wish

[vocal latch]

tbf his brain was getting more fucked each time 😭

[tawdry mulch]

L for the CEO

[vocal latch]

I'm pretty sure he genuinely forgot he did those wishes and then did them again and progressively it got worse

[tawdry mulch]

This reminds me I didn't even realize the whole thing about the space time transport program being prohibited was probably cause of the Susie incident till the second time I played lmaoo

[vocal latch]

Yeah

Well NOA made it sound like Haltmann knew of Galacta Knight LOL

[stray arch]

Update leak!

[tawdry mulch]

Yeah that was fun

||Final boss of ME should have been Treehouse fr fr||

[vocal latch]

||If you think about it, we've had 4 villains now who are tied to the mind and are literally-or born from malfunctioning ancient relics LOL (Nightmare, Dark Mind, Star Dream, Master Crown||

[odd rover]

Holy shit

[tawdry mulch]

||I'm almost convinced the Mirrors are just fucking made to be evil at this point LMAO. How does it happen twice. ||

[odd rover]

This would explain Magolor’s shoppe being there honestly

[tawdry mulch]

||two different mirrors Nuh uh this was made with MALICE||

[odd rover]

Shit

[leaden terrace]

||guys what if the decisive battlefield as when magolor did an oopsie with his gem apples and everything blew up||

https://tenor.com/view/pie-face-mask-spongebob-taylor-bartley-gif-14751610

[odd rover]

Ok uh here’s my non-mirror explanation

||The Dream Kingdom that became the decisive battlefield split from the timeline after Magolor arrived||

Bam, no parallels necessary

[junior fiber]

they should just drop the next clash game

smh

[spark lotus]

so ||Magolor comes and causes the "decisive battlefield" to not become like that by selling weapons and armor and stuff?.. if so, the shoppe is there though..||

[odd rover]

||No he blew it up with Gem Apple bombs||

Went kaboom

[vapid kestrel]

Ampether in utter disbelief as its revealed whatever the name of the crown Parallel Landia is wearing is also evil

[tawdry mulch]

I'm POSSIBLE

Impossible

Phone wtf does I'm possible mean

[lost briar]

protagonist of a certain disney channel cartoon be like

[vocal latch]

https://tenor.com/view/kim-possible-revealed-gif-24902394

[lost briar]

goddammit

[floral mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-magolor-magalor-virginity-shield-gif-20298354

[junior fiber]

this gif

[leaden terrace]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/132720341058453504/1084520601781276872/ah_a_female_sex_sword_activate.gif

[vocal latch]

they should've used this version in the game tbh

[leaden terrace]

the bestest timeline

https://tenor.com/view/kinkytwt-crying-gif-19391255

me being stuck in a timeloop having to listen to this for an eternity as my ultimate fate

[vocal latch]

||This is what Magolor Soul hears after True Arena||

[leaden terrace]

HAHAHAHAHA

[leaden terrace]

#fountain-of-memes message ||Magolor laughing at Kirby after the betrayal before he becomes taken over by the Crown and subsequently snuffed out entirely||

[ocean condor]

"Big" Jack Horner#1498 - #meme-buffet

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Quoted by 0th#0747 • [654796996418207786] · Mar 16, 2023, 10:33 PM

[junior fiber]

god this is actually pissing me off

nah but this one could've worked in the TA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCA9ScZLQAM

[solar harbor]

I remember Welcome Your New Overlord Pain Mix fucking making me die of laughter because of the Nokia arabic ringtone

[junior fiber]

the ultra instinct bit unironically goes hard

[maiden swan]

It does

The Busta Rhymes segment goes hard too

[prisma island]

the fucking slam jam part 💀

[halcyon night]

||wtf is that god tree final boss ||

[leaden terrace]

||🌳 ||

[tawdry mulch]

||its a canon explanation for microtransactions||

[thin prairie]

||whispy wood from ummmmm||

[peak dagger]

||It's clearly the dev team fulfilling a 30 year long desire to make people take the tree boss seriously||

[leaden terrace]

Source: ||https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/106279871||
||THIS MAKES ME SO SAD UGH||

[tawdry mulch]

||me waiting for them to explain that whispy exists everywhere cause of apple magic or some shit||

[thin forge]

||whispy exists in all dimensions||

[spark lotus]

the fact this could actually happen

[peak dagger]

But like, seriously, ||I can only imagine that getting to take a tree boss and turning it into a scary final boss had to be really fun for whomever designed that fight||

[thin prairie]

||they should add tree guy to smash brothers brawl||

[jolly valve]

Finally unlocked True Extra Missions and holy shit I feel so relieved that it counted that one perfect level 3 Egg Catcher game I did once prior lmfao

[tawdry mulch]

man kumazaki is gonna put the rapture in one of these games isnt he

[jolly valve]

Involving a big bad that's above even Void

[tawdry mulch]

the progenitor of the progenitor of origin

[jolly valve]

Wow Drawcia's laugh gets really old fast with the mask

[thin forge]

marx soul doesnt

i love the demented cackling he do fr

[faint glen]

The squeaks dont get old

[junior fiber]

yeah i really like marx's laugh

LARK??

[rocky wigeon]

Holy shit, this song really does go well with drinking some caffeine, makes me want to run up the wall in a 20 lap run

[prisma island]

daroach sounds like a goddamn luma

[jolly valve]

The only thing that would've made the masks perfect are matching sprays for kirb

[prisma island]

i want cherry kirby palette again

[pliant socket]

||Canon reason for why we should play clash together||

[spark lotus]

I like how in the epilogue ||they make the multiplayer magolor's phase into Magolor with an animation before playing the Ultra Sword cutscene||

[hexed current]

Void with a mustache (Void’s dad)

[jolly valve]

New NSO icons got Epilogolor lfg

[fathom cradle]

YOOOO

@ocean mauve i remember you wanting this

[thin prairie]

they finally have a meta knight

[ocean mauve]

OH yay

[jolly valve]

Do the icons ever come back because I missed Wave 2

[fathom cradle]

lol funnily enough it is literally just the one epilogue magolor in terms of epilogue content

[ocean mauve]

they knew...

[fathom cradle]

they may in the future

[pliant socket]

They rerun them sometimes in the future

Sucks though they should just have a shop

[jolly valve]

They should at least give another cycle from the first wave after the final wave's week

[tawdry mulch]

||Clash 3 soon!!! ||

[ocean mauve]

yippee...

[fathom cradle]

Lost in the pink void

[vapid kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-void-soul-gif-25810339

[thin prairie]

kirby

WTF

[cursive sandal]

Is it too late to get rtdldx icons?

[jolly valve]

So why's the Dark Matter mask specifically the clone? Is it the eye?

[ocean mauve]

why is that gif so high in frame rate

[thin prairie]

void fucking eated him

i wish star allies had that frame rate

[vapid kestrel]

Fuck the framerate why is it so HD

Who made this gif I want to know

How did they make it

[cursive sandal]

I wish sa didn't sacrifice gameplay for fanservice

[pliant socket]

The previous waves? Yes. For now

[vapid kestrel]

Me when adding Daroach to the game lowered the framerate

[thin prairie]

kirby star allies is a video game

[ocean mauve]

erm actually ur gonna have to wait a few hours for sa's birthday to end before you can slander

[cursive sandal]

[thin prairie]

they should make a kirby game

where like

um

[ocean mauve]

oh wtf it's you axel

[thin prairie]

hi

[ocean mauve]

i didn't even notice

sup

[thin prairie]

im the real axelotl

[ocean mauve]

[cursive sandal]

Axelotl, like axolotls?

[thin prairie]

no

like axelotls

[cursive sandal]

What

[cursive sandal]

gaming

||crowned doomer gaming||

[hoary canyon]

Do the thumbs on magolor look off in this WIP drawing? Hes supposed to be clenching his fists but Im not sure where to place it since his hands are kinda..

blob

[solar harbor]

Looks like clenching fists to me

[cursive sandal]

||crowned doomer|| with an expression of pure rage

[unreal stag]

when's overlord gonna get a pain mix

[vapid kestrel]

God deliver me from this hell

[junior fiber]

why do you feel the need to make it harder than it is

[prisma island]

wake up babes new unfair magolor soul just dropped

[lofty condor]

Jesus the Another Dimension attack scared the shit out of me lmao

[burnt slate]

like how the eye is still doing the same animations for its attacks while the body is T posing