[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

[leaden terrace]

or maybe ||it flaps them||/// ill have to recheck later

ok yeah u can just see it in cutscenes

[celest grove]

sees the word "Magalor"

goes bonkers

[leaden terrace]

[stray arch]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-epilogue-hydroath-happy-valentines-day-valentines-day-dooter-gif-27558136

[prisma island]

Has to be one hell of an oversight given how it's put directly in your face and has an overlay over the entire cutscene rofl

[leaden terrace]

Lol😭

||They literally cannot do that. They had YEARS and MONTHS to not make this huge error||

[prisma island]

Exactly rofl

[leaden terrace]

||Not to mention HAL clearly pays a LOT of attention to many detail. They cannot just miss THAT, ESPECIALLY not Magolor Soul||

||Plus, HAL breaks their own rules sometimes, just to surprise people and do things their own way||

[prisma island]

Personally, I feel like it's the better choice thematically ||given how Magolor Soul's descriptions make it far more obvious that he's a victim of the Master Crown which makes the climax of the Epilogue far more impactful, especially since Magolor didn't do what he did with Landia and fucking bail even though he has more of an excuse this time||

[leaden terrace]

its more that ||they acknowledge Magolor Soul as the definitive design for a Magolor overtaken by the crown||

[prisma island]

Maybe I'm reading too deep into it, I dunno.
It's hard to tell with this franchise.

[leaden terrace]

personally its not that deep. ||HAL chose that cutscene specifically, UPDATED in fact. They have to know what theyre doing. If they made such a huge error, that might cause some serious damage tbh||

||Note the stylized portal and Magolor leaning to the side as it fades. These are differences unique to the Deluxe version||

[prisma island]

For the record I 100% agree, I was being a bit sardonic in my initial response

It had to be deliberate

[lost briar]

I feel like it's just meant to be like

||they expected you to do Extra Mode before starting Magolor Epilogue||

[leaden terrace]

lol probably

||but even then, they chose magolor soul and magolor soul only. rly makes u think||

[maiden crane]

dont magolor soul and uhh whatever we call the other one share the same thing story wise

[lost briar]

||or you know people could also entertain the possibility that ME is only canon to extra mode and not the story mode because of the theme of parallels but lol people would hate that||

[leaden terrace]

yep

theres no difference except the design and the sound

[leaden terrace]

😭 !?!?!?!?!? no

people should stop making things complicated

please

[prisma island]

Yeah I have huge doubts about that one lmao, given how it literally describes how ||Magolor survived the events of RtDL||

[leaden terrace]

our brains can only muster so much at once, PLEASE keep things streamlined

[maiden crane]

also ||extra mode only being canon changes nothing either||

||cause its just, the same story but in a literal new coat of paint and pain||

[leaden terrace]

this is true

[prisma island]

pain especially

[leaden terrace]

also, on another note, ||i've got more details of master crown's design down, may i post it now?||

[blissful yoke]

please do!!

[prisma island]

[prisma island]

Niiiice

[blissful yoke]

goodness gracious that's a lot of detail

[leaden terrace]

also, ||i think im able to conclude that at least a good number of the roots have 6 segments||

||oh COME ON SOMETIMES IT JUST DOESNT EVEN HOLD ITS SHOULDERS SYMMETRICALLY. This guy HATES symmetry||

[faint galleon]

I cannot fucking wait to see the concept art of this thing

[leaden terrace]

SAME

[faint galleon]

And whatever rejected designs they went with

[leaden terrace]

theyre clusterfucks i know it

[prisma island]

Probably a good bet rofl

Hhhh I've got so many drawing ideas and not enough time or motivation

[maiden swan]

||You would have a panic attack at an actual tree||

Nope I still hate whatever this thing is

[thin forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cyanide-and-happiness-ladder-tree-shaking-tree-cat-stuck-in-tree-gif-16335719

[harsh dragon]

Lol I didn’t see that

[harsh dragon]

||Look at the gold laced around the tree…

Then look at the Apple tree from Super Kirby Clash||

[leaden terrace]

||im gonna do the leaves and the spikes (on the giant ring on top of the tree) last. dont expect me to draw separate leaves though. i really dont wanna do that and its not like it matters||

[prisma island]

understandable have a nice day

[harsh dragon]

That fight was in the top 3 bosses in the entire series for me

[harsh dragon]

We’re talking Star Dream and Fecto Elfilis tiers of awesome

[prisma island]

It kicked my ass the first go around but subsequent fights were easy

||Egg got cracked|| like three times but since then it hasn't gotten me close to death

[harsh dragon]

It took me several tries to beat it, but I also wasn’t even close to maxing everything

I’m really excited to face it as hammer Kirby in the true arena

[novel fog]

||I mean they said before the one that made themeparks and that is in TKCD was the main Magolor so lol||

but anyway, might be dumb question but is ||Magolor's Black Hole (in Epilogue) visually different at all between Levels (besides larger size at MAX)? and is Dimensional Vanish visually different between Levels either?|| just checking

[thin prairie]

I don’t think so

[novel fog]

oh okay good

[leaden terrace]

||i hate how big master crown is lol. i cant see shit beyond theedge of the screen i feel compelled to ask someone here for pics of his model||

[thin prairie]

Im more concerned for the attack where it comes into the foreground

Like is it literally the only attack where dodging is mandatory to avoid damage? If so that kinda sucks ngl

[leaden terrace]

~~since when dodging isnt mandatory to avoid damage? ~~

[floral mantle]

Somehow, I get ||more magical points doing the Boss Rush than Trickery 6 stage||

Boss Rush is more fun repeating than Trickery 6

[ruby narwhal]

To dodge that without blocking you’re supposed to run to the far opposite side to dodge the initial impact and then float/hover in the air high up when it buries itself in the ground and makes that little shock thing

[floral mantle]

||Rampaging Doomers is one of the best Epilogue fight|| change my mind

[leaden terrace]

thats a spicy one

[ocean mauve]

you can guard it with sand or leaf or stone

[leaden terrace]

everyone i know seems to hate ||rampaging doomers||

and from what i saw, its def rly annoying

[floral mantle]

I love it for how unpredictable they are and how seemingly individual each Doomer is

[lofty condor]

Most people I see have a love/hate relationship with it

[ruby narwhal]

So much bs spam and moving hitboxes it’s unfair

[maiden swan]

||Hydriath clears sadly||

[floral mantle]

Me who fly and spam bombs:

[leaden terrace]

||doesnt help that the doomers come out from the side and damage u by surprise||

[thin prairie]

Thanks

[leaden terrace]

||doing this true arena no damage would be a total nightmare||

[maiden swan]

https://tenor.com/view/morshu-zelda-you-will-buy-from-me-gif-16437133

[thin prairie]

I beat the fight before but just wondering if guarding or dodging was absolutely needed

[ocean mauve]

thankfully the only attack in the game where you gotta actually move instead of spamming leaf guard is black hole

[ruby narwhal]

They’re one of the only bosses I’ve seen that actually punish you for corner camping

[leaden terrace]

||i saw someone specifically test if magolor (dont remember which phase) punishes corner camping, and they got hurt. which is v interesting||

[prisma island]

I hate ||Rampaging Doomers because their trails are really hard for me to see; I'm not colorblind but it's still hard for me to parse purple&yellow trails on a purple&yellow BG so I just rack up a ton of damage ||

[leaden terrace]

yeah i can see the visibility being a problem too, theres too much visual info at once

[prisma island]

it's the lack of contrast that's my issue

[ruby narwhal]

||I know that some of the orb and/or spike patterns in mag soul ta punish you hard for corner camping||

[prisma island]

can confirm lmao

this hurt lol

[ruby narwhal]

That was one of the specific ones that came to mind lol, that and when ||he puts the spike up in the corners which stay there and then he launches orbs from above||

[prisma island]

yeah he wrecked me hard on my BWD runs

[ruby narwhal]

Yeah, ||the new mag soul really seemed to be geared towards punishing bad habits especially those from the original (black holes on either side instead of the middle)||

[prisma island]

YEAH THAT WRECKED ME ON MY FIRST RUN LOL
I got hard punished for using Stone because I forgor ||the black holes bypassed them||

[icy thorn]

i JUST died to the black hole

i realized too late

[prisma island]

i am not a woman known for learning from her mistakes

[icy thorn]

i'm starting to feel like you're meant to use souvenirs

they know what they did

[prisma island]

oh yeah i had to use a tomato to salvage my first run

[icy thorn]

i haven't even gotten a souvenir tomato

would've died earlier if i didn't use my singular drink

used right before galacta i think

which was surprisingly easy

[leaden terrace]

||OHHHHHHH I JUST NOTICED SOMETHING ABOUT TREE'S WINGS||

[icy thorn]

what is it

[leaden terrace]

||I was wondering what was causing the leaves to shoot out and slightly burning, but it turns out there was FIRE hiding behind them. just like magolor soul's||

[icy thorn]

||i find it so funny how there's not an elemental whispy woods because of the fuckin tree||

[spark lotus]

||I feel like I've definitely seen people just walk to the side on that attack.. you can see the edge of a circular shadow and outside of that is where it's safe?||

I think there was footage of it in a ||Magolor no magic upgrades run||

Oh I found it again and ||I guess they do dodge for the second part of the attack?||

||https://youtu.be/cbehaVOD_qo?t=734||

^ that has a timecode to the final boss btw

[leaden terrace]

doesnt work

oh well

this is rly cool tho

[spark lotus]

i guess you have to actually open it in a browser for timecodes to work.. but yeah, cool video all around anyway

[leaden terrace]

no it works most of the time i guess u didnt put it right

or it just doesnt work

awww their pfp

Oh they make REALLY good use of the teleport skill

[spark lotus]

I used "copy video address at current time" and I just tested that it does work if you middle click the link 🤔 it's a mystery..

...maybe it's the spoiler markings interfereing?

[leaden terrace]

idk

btw

im finally done with the... basic components of ||tree crown design||

i still havent gone to the specifics yet but here

[prisma island]

[faint galleon]

God

[leaden terrace]

it was a good whole evening spent i say

[timid storm]

What are y’all’s times in true arena

[jolly valve]

I've mentioned this before but my headcanon for Magolor's Soul's canonicity is basically:
All of Main Story is canon until the Lor fight and then the end of Extra Mode (starting from Magolor's EX transformation) is where it picks up after

[leaden terrace]

seems like it yeah

[tawdry mulch]

puts HR-D3 in there cutely

[timid storm]

Yeah that’s what I think too

[jolly valve]

Or if we're using the novels for reference, Magolor's true second phase is Magolor Soul and the main story second phase is non-canon lmao

[tawdry mulch]

||now i dont want to swing a bat at the wasps nest but im playing SKC clash again and the Morpho helm description mentions that he appeared as a result of the screams of the strongest warrior in the galaxy sooooooooooooooooooo does that mean Guest Star did actually happen or what. whats the concensus here||

i promised myself i would never think about this again booting up ||clash|| was a mistake

[leaden terrace]

||i meaaaaan he knew of morpho in the first plaaceeee||

[prisma island]

Them making ||Clash canon by yeeting our Magolor there|| really opened a big can of worms huh

[tawdry mulch]

it sure did

[prisma island]

I need more Mago-Lore

[spark lotus]

WAIT

[floral mantle]

funny how ||by making Clash Canon,|| it let us see some overlooked lore

[jolly valve]

I mean, ||how else would've Hyness fell into the pool that lead to his corruption HiAD||

[spark lotus]

but if ||HE WENT THERE AFTER THE EVENTS OF RTDL||

||and star allies happens way after RTDL||

[tawdry mulch]

||lmao Magolor made a little detour for star allies||

[spark lotus]

||SKC is the second one though?..||

[jolly valve]

What if weapon descriptions are the only thing non-canon lmao

[spark lotus]

||yeah so||

[leaden terrace]

thatd be hilarious

[floral mantle]

SKC is a sequel...

[spark lotus]

would be kinda lame though

[vapid kestrel]

I mean I'm of the camp that Guest Star did happen but how does SKC's helm description support it being canon at all

[prisma island]

kumazaki wanted to watch us burn

[leaden terrace]

idk lol

[spark lotus]

||SK is a sequel||
Yeah ||so he couldve helped in Star Allies and then back to help/sell stuff in SKC||

[leaden terrace]

it just gave us what was already known

[junior mesa]

||I don't personally believe in main canon guest star, but the whole interdimensional traveller thing opens the door to it being in the weird semi-canon could-be-alternate-universe thingy||

[jolly valve]

Magolor just doing a little trolling that's all

[prisma island]

||the shoppe is his side hustle||

[spark lotus]

I needa revisit the weapon descriptions in clash now.. they do give us some tidbits iirc? but if we're just going to write them off 😔

[tawdry mulch]

||well Clash is canon so having that description mention the events is like the one thing that actually acknowledges what happened||

[leaden terrace]

they dont tell much interesting stuff iirc

they just tell whats already told

not to repeat myself

||but it does refer to dark matter in a present tense so...||

[spark lotus]

I think I remember there was some hecky stuff about present and past tense

with like dark matter swordsman

[floral mantle]

time to read up on Clash descriptions

[spark lotus]

oh I didn't click this spoiler first

[tawdry mulch]

clash lore so real

[prisma island]

Yeah, the biggest issue is ||how Magolor would've known about some of these things|| and that's what's driving us crazy

[spark lotus]

and maybe Dark Taranza?

[jolly valve]

Stuff like the Dark Taranza and Morpho gear truly be questionable

[spark lotus]

..clash confirms that unicorns exist moment

[leaden terrace]

mfw we still have nothing on dark taranza 😂 imagine being a DARK TARANZA and DARK NEBULA fan couldnt be me 🤣 🤣

[junior mesa]

plot twist where ||after TKCD he goes on a little interdimensional travel journey to get more shop inspiration before trying to return to clash & accidentally winding up in SKC instead||

[spark lotus]

"Bearing the appearance of a holy beast" the unicorn set

[junior mesa]

might be possible actually

[spark lotus]

and then there's the whole thing with the golden set for each class being "worn by a hero of the kingdom long, long ago"

[jolly valve]

It baffles me that they didn't put Dark Taranza as one of those final hard battles. Like c'mon you made a second Parallel Susie. Why not put in Dark Taranza in there as well lmao

[leaden terrace]

IM SO MAD

[spark lotus]

Landion helm implying Landia protects multiple treasures

[jolly valve]

Still funny to me that Dark Nebula got shafted so hard that Daroach's Morpho remix didn't even give Nebula a new one lmao

[junior mesa]

i mean, landia did protect multiple treasures

[floral mantle]

Broke: RTDL Deluxe is a remake of Kirby RTDL

Woke: RTDL Deluxe is ||an advertisement for Kirby Clash||

[junior mesa]

the lor was found in the mountain lair too

not just crown

[prisma island]

I'M STILL MAD

[spark lotus]

clash confirming dinosaurs exist moment

nothing new there considering there are living ones in epic yarn... probably a few more too

[jolly valve]

Is Sandran a dino or dragon

[leaden terrace]

lizad

[floral mantle]

me waiting for him as a Kirby Miniboss

[leaden terrace]

hes already dead

i killed him sorry

[floral mantle]

why you kill Mr. Frosty's cousin?

[leaden terrace]

he said mean things to me i couldnt tolerate it

[spark lotus]

there's quite a few unfamiliar headgears that are said to belong to random people

[jolly valve]

Give me a Sandran plush HAL. Such a neat lil design. And then Star Allies 2 so I can make this thing my friend with a silly hat

[prisma island]

THEY REALLY GAVE US A MID REMIX OF A MINIBOSS SONG THAT WAS ALREADY IN THE GAME AND HAD ALREADY BEEN REMIXED
They couldn't even fucking give us a remix of the full boss variant of the Squeak Squad theme

[floral mantle]

cuz it's a common Dark Nebula L

[junior mesa]

oh my god lmao
I thought this was four heroes of yore for a second before processing that this was referring to TKCD lol

[leaden terrace]

like i said imagine being a dark taranza and dark nebula fan 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

[spark lotus]

"Getup inspired by an unknown painting"

Magolor is not The Painter confirmed /j

[tawdry mulch]

doesnt Dmind kill him LMAO

[jolly valve]

Is there any other Kirby boss that got shafted as much as Dark Nebula

[leaden terrace]

d-mind fucking died and he came back ???????

[jolly valve]

Yeah in TKCD. He simply doesn't exist in SKC lmao

Just as clothes

Magolor skinned Dark Taranza alive

[floral mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/king-dedede-king-d-mind-taranza-shut-the-fuck-up-team-kirby-clash-gif-25401415

[leaden terrace]

magolor's a truly heartless being

[tawdry mulch]

actually he just got sealed in a different dimension and team kirby broke the mirror

[jolly valve]

I appreciate SKC for having my childhood dream of Nightmare and Dark Mind meeting.... sorta. Dark Mind stronger than Nightmare confirmed

[spark lotus]

Abyssium metal found at the bottom of deep seas.. I'll file that away for my imagination..

[odd rover]

Kirby characters do that a lot

[tawdry mulch]

Parallel Nightmare opens the portal up to bring him back from where he was being kept

[leaden terrace]

AND NOT DARK TARANGA

[tawdry mulch]

deadaranza

fr fr

[rustic trellis]

We also know that in terms of mirror breaking skills, 4 kirbies = 1 dedede

[leaden terrace]

just like his gf 😌

[rustic trellis]

which also equals 1 DMK

[jolly valve]

Good thing he's not made of glass

[vapid kestrel]

||What does it matter when Magolor travels different realities||

[tawdry mulch]

||dont we only have clash and main world for his travels||

[odd rover]

||All of this discourse over the Kirby Clash Incident is so strange to me because the multiverse has existed in Kirby since RtDL||

[jolly valve]

Hold up. I just noticed in this vid that Nightmare summons him thru portal instead of the Black Mirror. Maybe it truly is a sequel after all lmao

[tawdry mulch]

||unless we count masks i guess sure Magolor went to the 3DS dimension to get masked dedede's face||

[rustic trellis]

||He had to learn about the lore to make the masks somehow||

[vapid kestrel]

||RtDL happens before SA anyway so it doesn't make sense either way||

[tawdry mulch]

||wait what doesnt make sense||

[spark lotus]

I had the same confusion earlier, though ||SKC is the sequel||

I'm probably still going to get the ||clash games|| mixed up though

[prisma island]

I never finished skc lmao

[vast vapor]

to be fair who has

besides like

[tawdry mulch]

im sure ill reach aeon dark eventually

[rustic trellis]

DMK can survive being killed like 3 times, but Dark Taranza gets hit with a hammer once and hes shattered for the rest of his existence

[vast vapor]

100 people total

[tawdry mulch]

i dont even have his area unlocked

[jolly valve]

If SKC is a sequel to TKCD, then it takes place after SA. Simple!

[vapid kestrel]

||You're assuming Clash mentioning Morpho Knight means Guest Star happened in the main universe but like
How does it imply that||

[floral mantle]

because it represents his fragile ego and depression

[spark lotus]

oh here's some lore ||A lovely mask associated with a ravishing queen. Supposedly resembles an associate of hers from before she attained her great beauty.||

[prisma island]

taranza is the current series' punching bag

[spark lotus]

and shattering is his death animation in Guest Star Star Allies ahha

[leaden terrace]

even magolor bullies him a lot

[tawdry mulch]

||Cause for Magolor SKC is after SA given it came out after that game||

[odd rover]

||GK enters the prime universe for the first time and immediately gets slurped||

[vast vapor]

||magolor epilogue
magolor goes to the clash kingdom
magolor decides his work is done and goes back to pop star to join kirby
magolor is dragged kicking and screaming back to the clash kingdom where he is sentenced to peddle his fares for all eternity||

[jolly valve]

Waiting for Taranza Epilogue in TD remake where he gets bullied more. Or maybe we'll get a Sectonia Epilogue instead. But that would mean a happy ending for our boi which the universe doesn't allow

[leaden terrace]

im sure John HAL would do it

[leaden terrace]

HAHAHAHA

[spark lotus]

I'm guessing that the idea is ||just cause clasholor references it doesn't mean Morpho eating Galacta Knight happened..? But clasholor is canon now, especially if you go with the belief that it's not EX mode magolor||

[jolly valve]

When he sees Parallel Susie approach his stall in Clash 3

[leaden terrace]

THIS IS TRUE

[spark lotus]

but in terms of the timeline ||Clasholor could diverge from the SKC one i guess||

[prisma island]

taranza's the easiest one to get a reaction out of

[pliant socket]

||MAHOROA BLAST||

[rustic trellis]

Magolor leaving gem apples on the table for susie cause hes such a nice guy (dont tell her they are bombs)

[spark lotus]

more weapons lore apparently

||A magic hat that grants the user control of time. Supposedly the wielder can travel through space-time at will.||
.."||Supposedly.||" ||They're really starting to make time travel more of a casual thing recently||

[jolly valve]

Old Friend Epilogue
Intro is flashback to Soul of Sectonia exploding
She falls into the Mirror World
She dies in the end anyways because Taranza can't have nice things

[prisma island]

[spark lotus]

hold on do you ||Fight Galacta Knight (Aeon Hero) in SKC?||

[leaden terrace]

yep

thats ||exactly where he debuted in the clash games||

[spark lotus]

if we assume ||the morpho knight gear is canon then aeon hero is a different one o.o'||

[leaden terrace]

||i dont think the gear is any important||

[tawdry mulch]

Magolor making up misinformation (except it actually did happen)

[spark lotus]

oh wait time travel maybe?

[jolly valve]

I assume Aeon Hero was a past version of GK summoned

[odd rover]

This is exactly what happens

[rustic trellis]

I headcanon that magolor summons gear using a gem apple gacha

[spark lotus]

Bandee also references that Aeon Hero might be summoned again some time in the "distant future"

[tawdry mulch]

Galacta really got eated for nothing he just got released back into the cycle again lol rip

[leaden terrace]

i like to think GK's always stuck in the past and Aeon Hero is just one of his nicknames, doesnt exactly mean it's him from the past but it's... just Galacta Knight

[rustic trellis]

thats why he wants our money

[leaden terrace]

i mean he looked the exact same when he was summoned

[odd rover]

Aeon Hero is just a title according to the interview

[spark lotus]

well..

[tawdry mulch]

i think Kumazaki mentioned that he has that name cause the Clash world didnt have a name for him or something

cause in Japan hes just called the Hero Crossing the Origin

[leaden terrace]

yea, it is still just a nickname then

[spark lotus]

Even Galacta Knight is more like "Galactic Knight"

[leaden terrace]

or something like that

[odd rover]

Galacta Knight, the aeon hero

[jolly valve]

Oh right fuck I forgot that his light and dark forms were transformations lmfao

[leaden terrace]

are those light and dark forms gonna be any important

[spark lotus]

I'd argue SKC Aeon Hero/Galacta Knight does seem pretty different, like from the past.. I seem to recall they even were going for that in the concept art, like what he'd look like in his prime

[leaden terrace]

or are we just gonna forget about them

cus im kind of slowly leaning toward the latter

[spark lotus]

and then there's the whole Heart Spears thing, which he replaces with those small swords because he probably can't summon them anymore because his friends are dead/betrayed him /headcanon

[odd rover]

That was for the light/dark embroidery

[jolly valve]

Galacta Knight's drip beam

[tawdry mulch]

I think so probably. im HCing that Galacta only uses them for important fights. Like the Jamba Heart and uuh.... killing team kirby for some reason

im sure we will find out why he used it against team kirby LMFAO i have my own ideas

[leaden terrace]

galacta knight's powers are TOTALLY mysterious

[odd rover]

Tbf fighting four suped up Kirby’s is a lot

[leaden terrace]

so theres like not a way to explain them i guess

[spark lotus]

Aeon Hero has bigger wings and horns, I feel like his powers would have diminished after so much disuse from being in the crystal

explains why they dont use the dark and light forms anymore

[jolly valve]

Galacta Knight upon seeing everything else: Goes batshit insane
Galacta Knight upon seeing a butterfly: Ayo what's that

[leaden terrace]

i do like to think he wields positive energy which is why he's the one that can summon heart spears

[odd rover]

“Anymore” his last appearance was in a remake lmao

[leaden terrace]

i mean, he summons like, a BUNCH of them.

[spark lotus]

well we are talking about the theory it's a past version of him..

[tawdry mulch]

heart spear generator

[jolly valve]

I just love how both of Morpho's victims just stopped doing what they're doing and just observe before getting absorbed lmao

[spark lotus]

if we say Star Allies was his most recent appearance timeline wise the wings and horns still shrunk + no light or dark form

[leaden terrace]

"Hey, look, a butterfly..."
Morpho: 🥤

[spark lotus]

but then that goes back on the morpho knight armor

[odd rover]

Huh

[jolly valve]

NO MORPHO DON'T DO IT

[leaden terrace]

MORPHO DONT EAT THE FLOWER

[craggy sable]

-slurp-

[jolly valve]

The flower literally saved Dedede there

[craggy sable]

It's just observing

[jolly valve]

slurp

Hey if you look closely it has green eyes

[tawdry mulch]

kirbyd ead??!!

[leaden terrace]

and you know what else as green eyes

[craggy sable]

Tasted like crap

[leaden terrace]

this baby boy

[spark lotus]

tbh my view on the series is a bit far removed from the general views here as you've probably noticed bc yall are boring /joke /lighthearted

[leaden terrace]

(im going at nothing)

i mean same

[tawdry mulch]

oh em cheese a None render

i think

[leaden terrace]

i lived on headcanons as my life support as a kirby fan

[tawdry mulch]

dont we all tbhhhh fr fr

[spark lotus]

if we go Star Allies -> SKC and Aeon Hero is the exact same Galacta Knight with no time travel but FL makes Morpho Knight canon that pretty much has to mean that Morpho Knight's form isn't reliant on Galacta Knight, which most people seem to believe already

or there's the idea mentioned before that aeon hero and galacta knight are just different ones

[tawdry mulch]

yeah i dont think his form is reliant on GK

[craggy sable]

Zerbie can't read today

[leaden terrace]

"Once it consumes a powerful soul, it gains form as a crimson knight!"
Umm yeah so Morpho Knight is basically a fusion of the butterfly and Galacta-

[tawdry mulch]

brings up morpho novel again where it is mentioned that Morpho Knight has been rumored before which shouldnt be possible if Galacta is necessary for him to exist

[jolly valve]

I mean if Morpho's form is reliant on what he absorbs, then he would've turned into a mouse butterfly in FL lmao

[leaden terrace]

true

[spark lotus]

I feel like you're joking but that's basically what I think lol

[leaden terrace]

yeah i am

someone argued this against me and i got confused

[tawdry mulch]

mouso knight

[leaden terrace]

like, sure, its not a farfetcched theory but

[spark lotus]

while Chaos Elfilis doesn't have butterfly wings... he does still take on a lot of the red that Morpho has..

[leaden terrace]

at this point they already kinda contradicted it soooooooooo

[spark lotus]

other argument is that he wouldve been specifically the mouse fetus

[tawdry mulch]

mouse mode

[leaden terrace]

id go as far as to say elfilis gets the false eyes on his ears from morpho

[craggy sable]

What are their motives?

[leaden terrace]

cus morpho is a(n unspecified) butterfly

and butterflies tend to have false eyes to ward off predators

[craggy sable]

If they aren't there to end a life, then what?

[leaden terrace]

so chaos elfilis has eyes on his ears, and they almost resemble...

[craggy sable]

Are they literally hungry for power?

[tawdry mulch]

Morpho wants to KILL evil dudes and people living past their due and also he wants to FIGHT

hes following Kirby cause he wants a BRAWL

[leaden terrace]

in my headcanons morpho knight is literally just a predator that feasts on souls and their energy lol

[jolly valve]

I'm surprised that nobody made a Morpho Knight EX reskin mod for FL yet

[spark lotus]

I guess we don't really know anything about it, would think Morpho is amicable towards Kirby being the one that usually wakes him up when something is happening/after Kirby passes out, + he gives the Morpho Knight blueprint after his battle which could just be written off

[leaden terrace]

nothing benevolent here just a, hungry little butterfly

[craggy sable]

The dark coloration may blend too much with the already dark environment

[tawdry mulch]

hungry hungry butterfly

[novel fog]

they don't seem to be different, Aeon Hero is just a nickname given to him because he did not have a name in the Clash world yet; he traveled there through the Another Dimension Road

[jolly valve]

If DMK, Marx, and Magolor didn't have the being Kirby's friend armor, they would've been possible victims too

[spark lotus]

I'd also say that since Fecto's whole thing is fusing with things, it managed to reach completion with morpho after you defeat morpho knight

[tawdry mulch]

no more elfilin necessary

[craggy sable]

Although, seems like Morpho Knight chooses to fight in other dimensions

Or timelines

[leaden terrace]

completion more like

reach past necessary threshold

Becomes chaotic xdddddddddddd

[prisma island]

#forgotten-landscape-portraits message

[ocean condor]

Novie-G#7739 - #forgotten-landscape-portraits

this is what happens when it's late, i'm bored and have a dumb meme idea (postgame ability + boss)

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Quoted by Novie-G#7739 • [229363481852379136] · May 3, 2022, 4:11 AM

[tawdry mulch]

hes just so quirky

[lofty condor]

Yeah, I think it gave them much more power than he expected lol

[leaden terrace]

Mfw my pure essence is no longer stable and I am hanging onto my last bit of life

[lofty condor]

I don’t think Elfilis even wanted the orb form to happen

[leaden terrace]

LOL

[lofty condor]

It’s the same with every other soul boss with a extra phase ||they just lose the last bit of sanity lol||

[leaden terrace]

i mean he was about to pierce u w that spear

[tawdry mulch]

orb mode tore elfilis into bite sized pieces

[lofty condor]

Yeah

[leaden terrace]

My interpretation is that the orb is actually Elfilis' mind acting as the core/soul and Elfilis' body is just fabrications of his psychic powers :)

[lofty condor]

I like to think the smaller orbs were the souls of the Beast Pack members he absorbed as Chimera Forgo

[maiden swan]

That would mean it could bring those back at will since kirby can just destroy them

Which sounds pretty rad

[tawdry mulch]

elfilis killing dozens of animals to becom orbo

[jolly valve]

Literally how I thought (or was wishing) ME was gonna end before the leaks happened lmao

[maiden swan]

You ain’t from Kirby if you ain’t ever done this before

⚪

[leaden terrace]

dude

i still cant believe

rtdldx didnt leak until like

a day or two before release 😭

[spark lotus]

uncertain I have a good source for this ||https://twicomi.com/manga/Azuhoon157/1566343177581301761|| but was just thinking of this comic lol

[leaden terrace]

like i genuinely was confused

what was going on

[tawdry mulch]

i wanted them to show up and do a muscly hand shake before beating the shit out of Magolor

[jolly valve]

Tempted to draw that

[leaden terrace]

I was half expecting morpho to appear and absorb the boss

before leaving

because its not interested in Magolor

[jolly valve]

Now only Dark Meta Knight lacks a fancy "EX" form

[craggy sable]

Real interesting how this bug doesn't actually appear in this game

[prisma island]

poor ||galacta|| didn't get to do shit in the game ||he was finally made canon by proxy||

[jolly valve]

Dark Meta Knight EX. He gets King D-Mind's shiny blue coloring

[tawdry mulch]

i thought this was going to be Galactas prison and he would lash out at Magolor so he could escape instead of him lmao

[jolly valve]

Reminds me of the time where I stumbled into a couple of 4-koma comics of GK that always ends in Morpho's splash screen lmao. Hopefully I can find that again someday

[lofty condor]

||It’s so funny how obsolete Galacta is in the TA now||
||"Look everyone, all the ME bosses are here too! Now they’re are 21 rounds including an upgrade Magolor Soul fight! Oh, and Galacta’s still here too.||

[jolly valve]

https://twitter.com/telunet/status/1530747754560925697 WAIT I FOUND IT. All I had to do was search "Morpho Knight 4-koma" in Japanese lmao

🍤てんつゆ🍤 (@telunet)

わかってたけど見開きで同じコマが4つ並んでるのおもしろいな

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Twitter · May 29, 2022, 3:07 AM

[strong seal]

LMFAO

[leaden terrace]

LOL

[floral mantle]

so... Morpho Knight is the punchline?

[prisma island]

I do appreciate what we ended up getting at least, especially since it solidifies that ||yes, Magolor has genuinely changed for the better, despite him being a little shithead teasing about going back to his old ways||

[leaden terrace]

THIS IS LIKE ONE OF THOSE MEMES

WHERE ITS LITERALLY LIKE THE SAME IMAGE REPLACING THE PUNCHLINE

[charred lion]

Hey guys! Trying to get a solid answer on something-- does getting all gold challenge medals do anything?

[leaden terrace]

Not really, iirc

[spark lotus]

it MIIIGHT unlock a soundtrack???? something does that

[charred lion]

Okay, trying to decide if it's worth the pain haha

[leaden terrace]

Just makes you feel good

...or something

[charred lion]

Like no extra stage or scene

[spark lotus]

not required for 100% though

[prisma island]

also rest in pieces galacta

[spark lotus]

in ME anyway

[charred lion]

I was confused bc I'm at 87% on extra mode before landia

Have done all gears and challenges

[craggy sable]

If you're talking the story challenges...

Nope it's just a flex

[spark lotus]

that is pretty funny

and it always happens to Galacta Knight and no one else lol

it'd be pretty neat if the reason the butterfly could get to him is because ||he's "died" and used the Room of Eden before||

[craggy sable]

Have you walked around the LOR for a bit?

[charred lion]

Not more than necessary to walk to challenge doors!

Is there a secret something 👀

[jolly valve]

Same artist also has a Forgo version lmao

[maiden swan]

I can imagine the opening of his SA theme playing each time

[leaden terrace]

e;JAWLDRHJAWLDH

[craggy sable]

Not sure if you're supposed to see the opening animation for the subgames and ability rooms for it to progress the percentage

[charred lion]

I didn't do that for main mode and have 100%

[covert jasper]

this is peak humor

[charred lion]

Though I did at least walk into those areas

And see the doors open

So you know what, that could definitely be it

[covert jasper]

LOOOOOL

[leaden terrace]

i cant wait to see the next victim

just

WHO will it be

[lofty condor]

The first one lmao

[craggy sable]

Hrm, perhaps just beat landia and see where that goes

[charred lion]

Ye ye

I'm nervous, I never did rodl extra mode on Wii

True arena is probably gonna be a toughie for me lol

I did ssu true arena last year though so I'm prepared

[craggy sable]

Wait do you actually have to visit the lor every time a subgame or room is unlocked to count it into your progress?

[maiden swan]

Midpho Knight

[floral mantle]

Let's start the trend of "Anime memes but is replaced with Morpho Knight"

[jolly valve]

Next victim will be Drawcia because I'm still convinced that Kumazaki's fighting thru hell to get her back lmao

[floral mantle]

that's exactly what the 4komas are like

[leaden terrace]

oh drawcia might actually be an interesting

choice

[spark lotus]

what exactly is Morpho's title after eating Fecto anyway. Ik it's "Fluttering Dream Eater" in english

[tawdry mulch]

yeah he loves dream

[jolly valve]

I can read your mind Kumazaki. I know he really wants to consider Canvas Curse mainline

[burnt marsh]

was canvas curse even made by kumazaki

[leaden terrace]

"Dream-Eating Bird of Paradise, Valfrey Knight" in japanese

[burnt marsh]

or was that the weird post-sakurai pre-kumazaki era

[leaden terrace]

Birds comes from dreaming bird which is a japanese word used to call butterflies

[craggy sable]

Perhaps

[peak dagger]

Canvas Curse is Kumazaki's first original character design with Drawcia

[leaden terrace]

^

Canvas Curse was by a completely different director

[burnt marsh]

that explains a lot tbh

oh yeah i forgot about the scaries drawcia art he made on twitty

[spark lotus]

the use of the word "reborn" with Galacta Knight is kinda weird to me but whatever

[tawdry mulch]

BIRD? LIKE DOOMERS 🤯

[lofty condor]

Drawcia is also like
The one spin-off character to get a mask too lol

[leaden terrace]

Haha it makes sense bccause

Morpho Kngiht is actually the fusion between the buttefly and G

[craggy sable]

Self Inserr

[peak dagger]

Drawcia is his baby, it's fine

[burnt marsh]

lack of forgo and void termina masks still make me irrationally angry

[craggy sable]

We coulda gotten more characters

[burnt marsh]

idk why it matters so much to me but it DOES

[lofty condor]

I’m surprised SD didn’t get one either

[leaden terrace]

wait she got a mask?

i forgor

[lofty condor]

Literally Magolor and Sectonia are the only modern final bosses to get one

[lofty condor]

Yep

Comes with her laugh

[leaden terrace]

cool

[burnt marsh]

i guess they wanted to do the penultimate boss fights instead of the final ones for masks

thats why we got leongar and hyness

and not forgo or void

[burnt marsh]

since sectonia has two fights in the main mode i guess she was the exception

(for the modern games)

[floral mantle]

no way, Spongebob becomes Morpho Knight

[craggy sable]

But instead we got...

Adeleine (Focused)
3 Retaliator Mages
Coo (Grey)
DARK Dark Metaknight
Elfilin (Smiling)

Man they got lazy with these special masks

[jolly valve]

Doesn't explain the lack of other spin-off final bosses tho

Drawcia literally his baby

[burnt marsh]

and thats why we got haltmann and not star dream too

[spark lotus]

Prince Fluff mask 😭

[burnt marsh]

elfilin (smiling)

[leaden terrace]

oh yes id LOVE to wear a mask of yin yarn

[burnt marsh]

elfilin (crying)

[floral mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/elfilin-kirby-and-the-forgotten-land-kirby-ranger-kirby-kirby-gun-gif-25308737

[burnt marsh]

elfilin (screaming)

[leaden terrace]

oh yes id LOVE to wear the mask of

necrodeus

[burnt marsh]

elfilin (trolling)

[jolly valve]

But I don't mind if he brings her back as a main villain in a mainline. She's my favorite villain from the DS era cus her design is sick lmao

[floral mantle]

You know what Mask will be peak?

Gimme a Kumazaki Mask (Mii)

[leaden terrace]

TRUE

[burnt marsh]

have anybody modded in new masks

[leaden terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/get-this-man-a-shield-get-this-man-a-true-morgan-freeman-morgan-freeman-true-gif-25958604

[craggy sable]

For a reward that comes from doing EVERY crappy subgame mission....

It sure as hell isn't satisfying when all you get is an already existing mask with a small texture change

[burnt marsh]

idk what the modding scene for rtdl dx is like yet

[floral mantle]

you get:
-Removed Outline
-Change Dedede design
-King DededeTree

[craggy sable]

What the hell why does Ribbon get a new hairdo but Adeleine gets that expression??

[floral mantle]

Gimme a Kumazaki (Mii) Mask

I want to beat Magolor as Kumazaki

[craggy sable]

They could've... I dunno... changed her hair too?!

[burnt marsh]

why is the treedede one of the first ones

[craggy sable]

It's important

Vital

[burnt marsh]

true!

[peak dagger]

Pretty sure I saw Fat Meta Knight
And don't forget "Meta Knight in a car"

[floral mantle]

what... Meta Knight in a car!?

[craggy sable]

Magolor with a gun

[jolly valve]

Seriously need a mainline game where Drawcia gets redeemed or some shit so that she can be put alongside all the other Dream Friends for becoming reoccuring characters lmao

[burnt marsh]

"why would i be in a car? i'm playing kirby. why would i be playing kirby in a car? the fuck?"

[craggy sable]

Drawcia's dead

Soul got shattered

[burnt marsh]

if anybody knows what this is from you have earned my respect

[craggy sable]

Only Vividria remains

[floral mantle]

why

[burnt marsh]

patrick

[jolly valve]

Vividria coming home only to find that both of her sisters are dead

[floral mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-cry-about-it-cry-about-it-meme-magolor-kirby-kirby-cry-about-it-gif-25023298

[craggy sable]

"Welp at least we have Vividria, Vividria, Vividria, and Vividria"

[burnt marsh]

bruh! magolor epic!

[craggy sable]

(Only 1 Vividria survived)

[leaden terrace]

Vividria's not smart enough to be aware of her situation

she'll be fine

[jolly valve]

Vividria and Drawcia Mask is the closest I'll get to a playable one lmao

[lofty condor]

: I can’t wait to show Drawcia and Paintra how much I’ve grown! I wonder why they haven’t been calling lately…
: …

[leaden terrace]

Kirby laughs awkwardly

[jolly valve]

: YOUR SISTERS ARE DEAD GRAAAAAHHH

[leaden terrace]

"Well, you see, Vividria, my friend, I killed them!"

[burnt marsh]

is claycia a drawcia sister i forgor

[craggy sable]

Kirby what the fuck

[burnt marsh]

i think she was confirmed to not be

[craggy sable]

Unrelated

[leaden terrace]

claycia has nothing in common

i mean

fuck

i mean shes got no relations yea

[craggy sable]

Not even a cousin

[burnt marsh]

then antdude did a little misinformation spreading

[leaden terrace]

antdude you slick little ant

[burnt marsh]

though idk if it was deconfirmed by that point

[craggy sable]

"The beta design of Metaknight"

[jolly valve]

Drawcia be like: Eeeheeheehehehehe

[peak dagger]

That was a trip through the discord search feature, here you go look lol
https://gamebanana.com/mods/427766

[jolly valve]

Magolor Soul: Rewr

[leaden terrace]

REWR LMAO

[burnt marsh]

"star allies is bad, robobot is better than forgotten land, and triple deluxe is better than return to dream land"

(im joking everyone is entitled to their opinions)

[craggy sable]

The worst Kirby game is Samurai Kirby

[burnt marsh]

is this a model made specifically for this mod

[covert jasper]

finally, a good RtDLD mod

[leaden terrace]

Me when I smell skill issue (the scent is strong)

[craggy sable]

Level 3

[peak dagger]

I have no idea

[pliant socket]

Never trust someone who puts pinball land over star allies

[craggy sable]

0th there's no skill it's RNG

[burnt marsh]

samurai kirby is only tolerable when youre playing on a monitor

with any tv it has a millisecond of input delay

[covert jasper]

SO TRUE

[burnt marsh]

that i use at least

[leaden terrace]

RNG in ur body fo sho

[craggy sable]

0th every individual has a limit to their reaction time

[burnt marsh]

you need borderline inhuman reaction time for level 3 meta knight

[leaden terrace]

Just react faster 😎

[burnt marsh]

and from what ive heard SSU was worse in that regard

[leaden terrace]

the older games were ruthless

[craggy sable]

0th I had to resort to turning off the game every time I lose to Megaknight so that I can keep my previous win and NOT be forced to start it over

[covert jasper]

yeah samurai kirby was originally much harder

[burnt marsh]

do you get anything for beating config mode in DL1 with 1 life and 1 hit point

i really hope not

[craggy sable]

If you haven't figured out this little exploit then good luck ckmpleting that stupid mission

[covert jasper]

bragging rights

[burnt marsh]

epic!

[leaden terrace]

Um just win dude 🙄

[craggy sable]

Well I did 0th

[leaden terrace]

Good to hear

[burnt marsh]

also im working on a funny project

i may post it here since it contains rtdl dx spoilers

[craggy sable]

Only because Metaknight was slacking by 2 microseconds

[faint glen]

ASHFVNFVDNCDCHA

[burnt marsh]

forgo looks so silly up close

[faint glen]

HOW IS THIS REAL

[burnt marsh]

it took me forever to notice their little nostrils

[peak dagger]

You ascend as a god and none can stand against you

Irl I mean

[burnt marsh]

what is the context of this emoji and why is it named after the brawl at the mall

[burnt marsh]

lmao

[lofty condor]

There’s an earlier episode of Phineas and Ferb where Buford challenges Phineas to a fight- yeah

[covert jasper]

someone made an edit of this with kirby and gorimondo but idk where it is lol

[lofty condor]

Squezzepig did

[fleet prism]

rawr xd

[charred lion]

So yeah, I only needed bronze/you don't need to ever visit copy room or subgame room on the lor for extra mode 100%

It just counts the final boss sequence as the last 13% of the game

Time for magolor epilogue!

[odd rover]

https://youtube.com/shorts/lxci3LtlsDU?feature=share

It got turned into a short by Youtube

[jolly valve]

Alright pack it up. We've peaked here

[odd rover]

Ok guys question

Is “canon” even a thing anymore in the case of a multiverse

[spark lotus]

yeah because of stone transformations

like Qbby and 8-bit Kirby

[covert jasper]

well there is a canon per each universe I guess

[odd rover]

“It’s not canon to the main universe” FL takes place in another universe therefore it’s not canon

[leaden terrace]

eh

[covert jasper]

GK isn't canon in the main timeline for example

[leaden terrace]

if its connected, its canon

[covert jasper]

or rather

didn't have a canon battle I mean

[spark lotus]

case-by-case I guess

[odd rover]

The entire final battle of RTDL is not canon because it takes place in Another Dimension

[covert jasper]

I mean like

[spark lotus]

anyway there's probably more things like

this

[covert jasper]

let's say we learn we also live in a multiverse

our own "canon" would still be our own universe stuff

[spark lotus]

like the cameo art on the ground tiles in star allies, why are those there?

some random paint roller made them? eh.. valid hc..

[covert jasper]

otherwise literally everything is canon so nothing is canon

[odd rover]

So canon could just mean “It stared our prime cast”

[jolly valve]

Everything is canon! Don't let Kirby wiki tell you otherwise...

[covert jasper]

and you get stuff like "kirby won against dark matter" and "kirby lost against dark matter" both true and you explode

[tawdry mulch]

i dont really understand canonicity in terms of in game dimensions/universes as opposed to the whole series tbh

[fathom cradle]

In the case of a multiverse I think "canon" is best meant to be understood as being related to the main storyline

Otherwise the word canon carries little meaning without having to constantly add an explanation of "everything is canon bc everything can just be in a parallel dimension"

[spark lotus]

continuing with the example, stone transformations aren't canon because of stuff like this.. oh and the HAL logo also

but also because they reference newer games in remakes

[odd rover]

This but with the word “canon”

[charred lion]

Is the weird ass Kirby manga canon? Idk, but it makes me uncomfortable either way

[odd rover]

Kirby multiverse game features manga

[spark lotus]

is this image itself satire..?

[jolly valve]

Is THIS canon?

[fleet osprey]

there's another factor about media that covers a multiverse

[peak dagger]

Lol I just noticed the bomb looks like him

[fleet osprey]

"relevancy"

[junior fiber]

canon's kinda arbitrary now i just wont think about it that hard

[spark lotus]

hal rooms also aren't lore relevant.. really..

[fleet osprey]

let's say that Right Back At Ya is canon in the ingame Kirby "multiverse" in theory

but it wouldn't be relevant enough to put it in a string of lore

UNLESS directly shown ingame

[odd rover]

True

[tawdry mulch]

hal rooms are real and are deeply important to the lore

[odd rover]

“Irrelevant au”

[spark lotus]

[jolly valve]

"stop arguing about the canon!" -Magolor probably

[tawdry mulch]

yeah for now this is how i feel about it. I wont knock other people for thinking otherwise of course but its too broad for my liking

[leaden terrace]

trying to insert the term multiverse is only gonna make things worse

[fathom cradle]

Kumazaki when his self insert ancient character is added 30 years later into the series

[leaden terrace]

like

poeple are literally

bringing things from other fandoms

[junior fiber]

wdym

[spark lotus]

oh yeah.. samus and shit.. since she did cameo :/

[junior fiber]

oh lmao

[spark lotus]

and qbby given how many times they're referenced lol

[tawdry mulch]

we barely understand Clash yet LMAO im not ready for the infinite multiverse

[spark lotus]

...does Qbby have more cameos than Prince Fluff?

[fleet osprey]

trust me, even HAL doesn't care this much about Kirby canon

[junior fiber]

thats just a reference there's not much of a reason to bring that up

[leaden terrace]

idk why i said that but like, im sure people are so used to seeing multiverse that as soon as they see time traveling and ||clash being revealed to be canon|| they just

immediately say it

THIS

omg

what strimp said

[fleet osprey]

they can just add funny cameos here and there from other Nintendo games with no intention of being canon

but people would still take them as such

[peak dagger]

Yeah, I really feel like the fan base takes this WAY more seriously than HAL does

[fathom cradle]

Lol they even added a gold Tom nook statue in tdx

For a stone form

[floral mantle]

me when people say Obama is canon to Kirby Lore (He's in Dream Collection)

[fathom cradle]

Or actually that was pr

Iirc

[spark lotus]

Girl Blob isn't canon because she's a replacement/localization of a japan-only cameo

[tawdry mulch]

for the past games and their silly references yeah but they do clearly carefully put together the stuff that matters imo

[fleet osprey]

it's all fun and games so I wouldn't just try stopping people from speculating unless there's direct misinformation shared as canon

[tawdry mulch]

given how much junk ME followed up on

[peak dagger]

Like I know this is the franchise with the funny background lore, and the director who likes random references to different mythologies and philosophy. It's not that they don't care at all.

But fans take it to another level imo

[leaden terrace]

"Guys, look at this kirby lore chart I just made its like so detailed and has all the connections but I assure you this is very important for our lore understanding"
Nintendo: check out these lineup of kirby games !!! (excludes dedede drum dash)

[tawdry mulch]

WTF where is drum dash

[junior fiber]

ok but that recent lore chart was pretty good

[leaden terrace]

it is

[fathom cradle]

that's just kind of the nature of fandoms is it not

[odd rover]

86% sure cameos are just silly little things

[fleet osprey]

Kirby canon IS also inconsistent due to the earlier games not following a specific formula/lore

[jolly valve]

What's the lore on Drawcia's hands

[tawdry mulch]

NONCANON!!!!!! no hands!!!!!!!!!!

[spark lotus]

I don't think anyone has said anything to disagree with that idea, yeah

[junior fiber]

marx hands

[fleet osprey]

btw Magolor Soul hands have lore

[odd rover]

Kirby multiverse game where Marx gets freaked out over his manga self having arms

[spark lotus]

they kinda do lmao

[leaden terrace]

The lore is that he

Rewr!

[jolly valve]

Void Termina tatoo lore

[spark lotus]

Crowned Magolor's fingertips break the gloves and Magolor Soul has no

[fleet osprey]

his hands are ripping through the gloves

yeah

[tawdry mulch]

did you know gaming: "magolor grow fingies"

[junior fiber]

he ripped the gloves apart that monster

-34 drip points

[ocean mauve]

he got the ash ketchum gloves

[tawdry mulch]

the fandom curse

[fleet osprey]

in my headcanon Magolor Soul is the canon design

[tawdry mulch]

although idrc about people sifting through the details cause its FUN

[fleet osprey]

Magologue kinda points at that in the intro but idk how valid that is

[junior fiber]

HAL sure gives Soul more love so i wouldn't doubt it

[spark lotus]

||Magolor just coming back in normal form after all of that (and only being demoted to ghost bleached tatters AFTERWARD) makes me wonder about what a lethal blow would be in the Kirby franchise. Like obviously everything is very fantastical but you never think about it||

[tawdry mulch]

ME should make you PARANOID since they ||gave an origin to that fucking ultra sword||

[spark lotus]

idk i just like thinking/theorizing about things

[leaden terrace]

as valid as relating it to whats quite literally the canon events i guess

[fathom cradle]

Honestly I don't really see a problem with magolor soul being canon

[jolly valve]

Since the multiverse is a thing, there's one universe out there where Magolor picks up the wrong crown

[fleet osprey]

god

[leaden terrace]

gets 10 coins

[fathom cradle]

The canonicity of other hard boss forms is mostly bc the events of their modes contradict main story in some way

[leaden terrace]

"HOLY SHIT!"

[spark lotus]

everything is valid 💯

most people believe that Magolor Soul replaces Magolor phase 2 (Crowned Magolor) in canonicity here anyway

[tawdry mulch]

mario does exist in the kirby canon

[fathom cradle]

But extra mode in this game literally is just the main story

[spark lotus]

yeah, so they just ignore everything else in the ex mode and only focus on the soul replacing Crowned Magolor

[junior fiber]

im so glad they haven't done a side mode like extra mode since though

[tawdry mulch]

HR-D3 WILL NOT BE ERASEWD

[jolly valve]

I mean non-EX Magolor outright transforms into Soul in the novel too. Crowned Magolor's existence is purely to hide the surprise lmao

[fleet osprey]

RtDL Ex Mode really is uhh

[spark lotus]

interestingly ||Crowned Magolor doesn't have a pause description||or so I'm told

[fleet osprey]

one of the worse ones

[spark lotus]

it was boring in the original too haha

[junior fiber]

yeah thats what i meant soul pretty much gets all the attention

[fleet osprey]

at least they did their best to improve it on the remake lmao

[tawdry mulch]

URGHHH just make it DIFFICULTY OPtiON!!!!!!

[leaden terrace]

still makes it mandatory

[spark lotus]

oh yeah you need it for 100% haha

[fleet osprey]

I don't agree with a difficulty option either, it'd be weird seeing Whispy EX on your very first playthrough

[charred lion]

I just finished extra mode and quite enjoyed it personally. I do prefer all the extra modes in games afterwards though where they're waaaay more streamlined and not just every level lol

[fleet osprey]

keep in mind that people default to Hard Mode in nintendo games

[peak dagger]

I see it a bit like ||they went, ok, we need a finisher for this final boss. Really make it cool and echo the main story. So Ultra Sword then, he can do that? Yeah, but where does it come from? This is a story about him getting powers back - have him transform a boring sword or something. Sounds good, also let's make the scene sick af||

[fathom cradle]

Introduces a third difficulty that's unlocked in the postgame

[pliant socket]

Ermmmm proof?

[fathom cradle]

[tawdry mulch]

cann mario?!

[junior fiber]

hello kirby i am super mario

[pliant socket]

WTF! Real

[fleet osprey]

I just realized that you don't need to beat hard missions for 100%

.

[junior fiber]

I AM SAVED

[jolly valve]

Magolor's true intention of getting the crown: Poseable fingers (canon)

[fathom cradle]

You need them for complete jukebox though if you care about that

[prisma island]

That's true, yes

[junior fiber]

star allies if it was good

[odd rover]

Lmao

[fleet osprey]

me with 300% with hard missions:

[odd rover]

You need to beat them for a complete jukebox though

[tawdry mulch]

||honestly wouldnt be surprised if they already had a plan for the Magolor story given they even called out the Ultra Sword move as having dubious origins in the SA artbook. and also Clash lmao||

[spark lotus]

[junior fiber]

thats lario muigi

[spark lotus]

also in Dedede's arena in super star apprently

[tawdry mulch]

riick the hamster

[odd rover]

Also god ||Another Domination|| goes so hard

[tawdry mulch]

MARIO

[pliant socket]

SOMEONE POSSESED MY COPY OF PRB GUYSSSSSS WTFFF

[leaden terrace]

WHAT DA FAKKKK

[spark lotus]

oh i didnt know about that one

or is that a mod or something o-o

[odd rover]

That’s a stone luigi

[junior fiber]

this is scary...

[tawdry mulch]

SUPER MARIO?!

[fathom cradle]

(It's just one of the stone forms you can get normally)

[pliant socket]

They put super maro in the kirby game!!! Wtf!!!

[fathom cradle]

You can get Tom nook in pr too

[peak dagger]

Lol well we can at least agree||the scene framing of it was beyond cool. God the visuals in this game are great||

[tawdry mulch]

kirby lore heads still cant explain the HAL rooms smhhhh

[fathom cradle]

Hal are the ancients

[peak dagger]

The Ancients were literally HAL themselves

[fathom cradle]

[peak dagger]

Lol

[fleet osprey]

god i love 3ds kirby era

[pliant socket]

Can't believe they put debt in my kirby game!!!

[fleet osprey]

i cant even express it enough

wish my 3ds wasnt broken

but I'm so glad I could live through that wonderful time

[tawdry mulch]

rip 3ds

[odd rover]

From Those Who Departed For Space

[tawdry mulch]

oh my goooooood

[junior fiber]

my dumbass lost of my 3ds

[prisma island]

TRUEEEEE
It sounds like a song from a completely different franchise but it still slaps

[tawdry mulch]

ancients leaving behind cryptic messages that say "H" "A" "L" what could it mean

[junior fiber]

before they left they hid special rooms in moons what could this mean

[odd rover]

Mfw dubstep in Kirby

[odd rover]

Maybe this is why the Ancients are so well known

[fleet osprey]

speaking of dubstep in kirby

[leaden terrace]

||Another Domination|| makes my feet constantly slip on the floor and my body in constant movement

[fleet osprey]

||ever noticed how Magologue Area 3 theme sounds like a Robobot track||

||they can still cook the same style and im so excited for a possible robobot remake becasue of it||

[odd rover]

I’m currently bopping my head

[tawdry mulch]

kirby planet bobobot

[pliant socket]

||Robobot remake that will actually remake egg engines!!! Wtf!!!||

[prisma island]

It was the music to ||Pyred Dimension|| that stuck with me haha

[jolly valve]

Bandanna Dee's Apple Juice made from Gem Apples. How would Magolor feel?

[tawdry mulch]

||Blue Blizzard Remix is FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE FIRE||

[fleet osprey]

||tears of the master crown||

[junior fiber]

tired of people sleeping on PR's ost 😭 i listened to the entire thing a few weeks ago again and it SLAPS

[fleet osprey]

people are sleeping on Robobot ost??

[tawdry mulch]

im WIDE AWAKE

[junior fiber]

i've seen people shrug the whole thing off because of the beeps and boops

[peak dagger]

Robobot is probably my least favorite modern game, and I still adore that soundtrack

[junior fiber]

they also compare it to TDX but im not even gonna lie PR's ost is better

[pliant socket]

Robobot ost is mid because it doesn't remake steel hometown

Sorry i don't make the rules 🥱

[fleet osprey]

I will eat you

[junior fiber]

fair

[pliant socket]

tdx had steel hometown so it is simply better...

[prisma island]

Catch me going to Gorgeous Go-Round and Flight of Azure

[junior fiber]

grahhhh shush mps

[peak dagger]

I'm not saying I dislike it. I just enjoy playing the others more

Soundtrack is perfection though

[pliant socket]

real talk tho pr's ost fucking slaps, definitely tied with tdx as my favorite video game ost

[fleet osprey]

3ds sweep

[pliant socket]

3DS games try not to be peak

[junior fiber]

PR ost haters when i tell them to listen to Steel Beat

[pliant socket]

We peaked at Kirby Fighters ‼️

[prisma island]

I really appreciate how PR used a lot of Canvas Curse music for their extra stages

[peak dagger]

My favorite is the techno lab music

[tawdry mulch]

pr haters when Star Dream opens its eyes and goes MREEEOOWWW

[fleet osprey]

i unironically want blowout blast to be ported

[pliant socket]

pr haters when I respond to them with this

[junior fiber]

suddenly they like PR

[tawdry mulch]

its a reference to their favorite game kirby supra sta

[fleet osprey]

remember when robobot was released in japan one month earlier haha that was certainly fun

[pliant socket]

omg!!!sakurai banger!!! Sakurai thank you for making magolor can you sign my babies and put me in smash 6-

[jolly valve]

I wonder what old game will have references all over in the next Kirby game. We had Amazing Mirror in TD, Super Star in PR, DL3 in SA, and 64 in FL(?). And I guess Adventure for RtDL?

[fleet osprey]

i love being spoiled of the biggest reveals in kirby history

nova and dark matter

[tawdry mulch]

yeaaaaaaaaaah that was fun

[junior fiber]

lmao that happened??

[burnt slate]

ya, PR was leaked

[pliant socket]

Remember the shitty fan translation

[tawdry mulch]

i just wanted to listen to the final boss theme and it had fucking Novas theme in it so kinda my fault but MAN

i also saw Void Termina's true form on my youtube but i didnt realize it was the final boss till i played LMFAO

[floral mantle]

which one?

[pliant socket]

The one that came before pr's release

[burnt slate]

it was even got leaked in english so ppl understood the general plot of the game unlike tdx, where it came out for jp first

[odd rover]

How does FL reference 64?

[pliant socket]

Yeahhhh

[tawdry mulch]

really did expect demon kirby as the final boss so seeing that thumbnail did nto spoil me cause i had no clue what i was looking at

[pliant socket]

Wait was it the ACTUAL english localization

[junior fiber]

i wasnt really in the wider fanbase when PR came out

[odd rover]

Or RTDL DX referencing Adventure

I remember I bought Star Allies because “eh why not”

Now I’m here

[jolly valve]

All I can think of is Club Penguin Dedede and Needle Kirby lmao

[pliant socket]

I enjoyed the SA demo but I didn't buy it because the Nintendo YouTubers possessed me into thinking that it was a bad game

[tawdry mulch]

all i remember from when Robobot came out was that people didnt like Galacta showing up. i wasnt even talking with fandom people and that still reached me

[odd rover]

Yeah FL is pretty independent. I heard the reason for avocado Dedede was because the character designer for 64 came back

[junior fiber]

you buying Star Allies on a whim 5 years ago (you are unaware that you will soon fall into a rabbit hole of kirby obsession and lore)

[burnt slate]

rtdl did make his return less impactful, and the general trend of knight final bosses in extra mode was made apparent in PR after triple deluxe had dmk

[odd rover]

Lol

[pliant socket]

Yeah at least we got the better galacta remix out of it

[odd rover]

I hope for more unique final bosses in extra modes

Especially considering ||Master Crown||

[jolly valve]

This one I'm also not sure. Just purely the level select design and that one boss tower lmao

[pliant socket]

and you have to admit: galacta destroying star dream with a single slash was raw

[tawdry mulch]

buying star allies on release was fun cause i was like "that was fun! that was the whole game though?"

[jolly valve]

And a schmup before the true final boss

[pliant socket]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-planet-robobot-galacta-knight-who-pinged-me-gif-25418181

[junior fiber]

it was

going into PR blind was so fun

3ds kirby games had a different vibe man....

[odd rover]

Man I hope GK’s last appearance isn’t SKC

[junior fiber]

also GK using a stabbing weapon to slash will never not be funny

[odd rover]

Well he technically appeared

[austere willow]

who tf u talking to for people to say that KPR ost is slept on

[odd rover]

He’s that strong

[junior fiber]

im probably remembering like 2 interactions from this server months ago

[spark lotus]

i somehow got really lucky and was only spoiled on Mecha Knight

[jolly valve]

Hearing Mecha Knight's theme being a remix of the SS theme for the first time was a banger

[spark lotus]

I thought Nova's :3 was going to be a mustache and it was Haltmann's face the first time I saw that, and then it fully revealed and it was like :OOOO

[odd rover]

I got vaguely spoiled for FL

Granted I deliberately asked for hints

[tawdry mulch]

no spoilies for FL i did not give into my curiosity

unlike the rtdl remake cause noone wanted to dump the rom

[jolly valve]

I always spoil myself with Kirby games because I always wanna see what secret abomination endboss they got lmao

The only time I didn't get spoiled was HiAD because I played that shit right away when it released

[harsh dragon]

I used to do that, but Forgotten Land showed me that it’s WAY more worth it to experience for yourself blind

[pliant socket]

TRUEEE

at least it wasn't fucking

Splatoon 3

Where we could have gotten a dump the weekend before

[spark lotus]

honestly don't remember if I got spoiled for FL

[tawdry mulch]

lmaoooo

[spark lotus]

compared to going into robobot blind it's hard to remember.

[odd rover]

I went into Magolor Epilogue 0 spoilers

[pliant socket]

but the guy with the early copy listened to a dumbass who had no idea what he was doing 😭

I was so pissed bro

[jolly valve]

The thing that caught me off guard the most was Morpho Knight EX in Soul Melter EX. Wasn't expecting a new form

[odd rover]

I got spoiled for the ||Magolor Soul EX|| fight

[harsh dragon]

I’m so happy I experienced the finale of that mode blind

[tawdry mulch]

the only thing i got spoiled for FL was Welcome to the New World which is the sole reason im not subbed to Gamexplain anymore LMFAOOO

[junior fiber]

i remember when faye dropped ALL of the boss names and Roche limit in the spoiler thread

crazy times

[pliant socket]

A blessing in disguise

[spark lotus]

same, I found an addon to block youtube thumbnails on a different browser and specifically searched a full playthrough so I could go in blind (I dont have a switch)

[junior fiber]

listening to roche limit with no context was wild

[harsh dragon]

Lmao

[pliant socket]

SAME THAT WAS SO FUCKING CRAZY

[junior fiber]

like how tf am i supposed to react to Fecto Elfilis

[jolly valve]

They couldn't have bothered making a Parallel Pon & Con for Soul Melter EX though. Triggers my OCD lmao

[tawdry mulch]

lmfaoooo that was so funny

[covert jasper]

RtDLD spoiler thread be in topic challenge

[cursive sandal]

the only fl spoiler I got was looking at a picture of fecto elfilis for less than a second because I immediately scrolled away

[tawdry mulch]

impossible

[cursive sandal]

I remained unspoiled for magologue

[peak dagger]

Uhh
I managed to not get spoiled for the Epilogue here which was the only thing I really cared about

[prisma island]

I got spoiled on the ||Master Crown||'s design but not its name
Plus I didn't look at it too closely so it still caught me off guard

[novel fog]

yeah
JP version of Robobot at least had all languages for it except Korean in it I think
so if you hacked your 3DS to play it on a non-Japanese 3DS it would play in whatever language your 3DS was set to

[junior mesa]

challenge for best TA run

[covert jasper]

best TA run (any bandee run because bandee is the best)

[harsh dragon]

Nothing in the world could’ve emotionally prepared me for ||a giant eldritch tree god with the text “Master Crown” below the health bar||

[covert jasper]

MOOD

[peak dagger]

God, I was somewhere between awe and delighted laughter

[jolly valve]

I stumbled upon FL spoilers in 4chan and then saw Fecto Forgo and was like "That's it?"

[covert jasper]

||I love that it's just called "master crown" and nothing else||

[jolly valve]

And the Chaos Elfilis figure dropped right after lmao

[odd rover]

I was like “What the fucking”

[covert jasper]

||you are literally battling THE CROWN it's wild||

[harsh dragon]

||Dude I got CHILLS||

[prisma island]

I saw ||the tree monster||
I didn't see its name
I wasn't paying attention so I didn't notice ||the fuckin crown on top of its eye||
my adhd bailed me out on this one

[peak dagger]

Magologue giving the best visuals ever

[odd rover]

I’ve never felt such a mix of excitement and fear before

[cursive sandal]

||that moment when the health bar appears with the fking words "Master Crown" goes so hard||

[jolly valve]

How did it hit people for the first time when the Ordeal theme was the intro lmao

[tawdry mulch]

||even seeing the name Master Crown in this channel, the speculation about the tree, and the explicit mention of a tree in this channel could not prepare me for apocalypse Halcandra City feat. Garden of Eden symbolism tree||

[prisma island]

For the intro I was more fixated on ||how it showed Magolor Soul instead of the version from Story Mode||

[covert jasper]

I think I felt that for every modern kirby final boss, but this one had a special flavor to it

[harsh dragon]

||I already knew, without fully understanding why, that this would be a MASSIVE lore drop||

[floral mantle]

me discovering ||Christian Kirby is actually kinda canon with all the biblical symbolism associated with Magolor||

[covert jasper]

insane indeed

[cursive sandal]

||I didn't even know until someone said it in a youtube video I watched I think||

[covert jasper]

kumazaki is crazy

[odd rover]

Same

https://tenor.com/view/running-chase-disney-father-dad-gif-17596024

[junior fiber]

this was the most wild revelation

[harsh dragon]

||I know a Christian Kirby fan that’s gonna lose his mind in hype over that boss||

[odd rover]

Kumazaki on his way to write the craziest fucking ending for a side mode

[covert jasper]

TRUE

[floral mantle]

Can't wait for ||Something about Magolor Epilogue||

[junior fiber]

i fucking love kirby climaxes though

they're always awesome

[covert jasper]

so true

[junior fiber]

they've mastered the art of final bosses

[cursive sandal]

Modern kirby is insane

[covert jasper]

SO TRUE

[floral mantle]

Even the OSTs are lit

Like, we would never get all of this if Kumazaki never become director

[covert jasper]

my brother once told me "kirby turned final bosses into art" and I've always been "so true, so true"

[floral mantle]

would we?

[junior fiber]

even Adventure was exuding the vibe modern games do

[cursive sandal]

kumazaki is an amazing director

[junior fiber]

THEY DID

[thin forge]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-kirbo-terminal-montage-psalm-gif-19961242