[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

[spark lotus]

thing is I'm not sure what a globe of Earth on an ancient creation would prove. I mean saying it out loud it seems pretty obvious, but

[odd rover]

Alternate Earth

[thin prairie]

Speaking of which didn’t someone a few months ago translate the sign to figure out that kirby is 20cm?

[spark lotus]

the opposite

[odd rover]

The sign on Wondaria Speedway?

[thin prairie]

Yea somewhere in wondaria

[spark lotus]

the sign said you had to be 90cm or taller to ride, and if you associate it with the Roller Coaster, Kirby would be a lot more than 20cm

[solar harbor]

I think you mean the Coaster Mouth section

[odd rover]

Measurements were 3’0 - 6’2”

[thin prairie]

If someone can get it all completely worked out again then it should be pinned

[spark lotus]

I think I remember calculating that if we assume Kirby is 20cm and have him stand next to the roller coaster, it is around 160cm tall

[odd rover]

So 5’3”

[thin prairie]

I think there was something to do that the trees in chop champs make him 20cm

[spark lotus]

with that big thing over the seat it looks like you'd have a hard time being too tall and riding that thing

[vapid kestrel]

SA v RtDL v SKC
His hands and shoulder guards are now closer to his body than in either SA or SKC, his shoulderguards look like they're at the SKC size

[spark lotus]

yeah aside from the signs in Wondaria the series pretty consistently references him being 20cm

[junior fiber]

deluxe wings

i love when they give the knights giant wings fr

[odd rover]

True

[thin prairie]

Ok so yea Imma chock up wondaria sign to a continuity error

[vapid kestrel]

But yea tl;dr: RtDL GK is SKC Aeon Hero with his regular wing size, also his hands and shoulderguards are closer to his body than before

[thin prairie]

I cannot see kirby being much bigger than like a plushie

[junior fiber]

wait they made a new model for GK in SA when he showed up for 5 seconds?

[vapid kestrel]

Fry GK is a boss in SKC

[spark lotus]

could also headcanon that being transported to the Forgotten Land messed with everyone's sizes it did give Kirby the mouthful mode ability after all

[odd rover]

Y’know if Kirby was ~2ft in FL then the size of the big rig would match the size of an irl semi-truck

[junior fiber]

i had a brain fart

[spark lotus]

people talk about how some of the animals match up with what their irl sizes would be compared to a 20cm kirby.. but then there's sillydillo and the duck and ducklings you reunite

and also fleurina

[thin prairie]

Imagine the big rig was the size of a pez dispenser lol

[peak dagger]

Or that the people of the New World were smaller and just use measurements corresponding to their size but with similar abbreviations to ours

[spark lotus]

ye

[peak dagger]

Hot wheels truck lol

[junior fiber]

the truth is the new world had stronger gravity so everyone was shorter

[odd rover]

8 inches in Popstar language is actually about 60 feet tall

[vapid kestrel]

Like god his wings are the same size between RtDL and SA but the shape just leaves such a better impression

[thin prairie]

Anyone ever realize how funky the new worlds climate is?

[pliant socket]

Playdoh ahh wings????

[odd rover]

Yeah

[spark lotus]

the fact that they have a tropical whispy

[peak dagger]

Tropical, effectively, up until you hit Winter Horns.

[spark lotus]

technically not the first time we saw a Whispy deviate that much (Yggy Woods) would be the first

I messed up my formatting somehow

[odd rover]

Would be strange since they’d have to make the conscience decision to translate English to New World crypt

[junior fiber]

just like canada and the US

[pliant socket]

It's cold as shit here what do you mean

[peak dagger]

I just heard a snow plow go by, so yeah lol

[junior fiber]

its tropical (us) until you hit winter horns (canada)

[vapid kestrel]

Oh looks like his shoe model is slightly edited from SKC actually

[thin prairie]

Like the ocean moved from the wastes where life began to the powerplant which is hundreds of feet sunken
It isn’t global warming because there would be more water everywhere not an entire ocean being pushed somewhere else. And since its after ancient interference that means there probably was something keeping the ocean in the wastes where life began that stopped working. So it moved back to the powerplant area

[odd rover]

Then you go to Originull Wasteland (Atlantic Ocean-North Africa)

And Redgar Forbidden Land (Sub saharan)

[spark lotus]

how much evidence is there that the Forgotten Land is earth anyway?

like the semi truck is too human tech i guess

[thin prairie]

It is green and- thats it its green and the tech is human looking

[spark lotus]

and the theme of earth animals

weird earth animals but still

[odd rover]

Neichel existing
Human measurements
Architecture
The fact that Originull Wasteland is an Earth evolution reference according to an interview iirc

[spark lotus]

im guessing Neichel is that person who sang at that event

[odd rover]

Yes

[junior fiber]

its an earth like planet and thats all that matters to me

[spark lotus]

<insert image of Shiver Star>

[odd rover]

Like there’s more things implying it is Earth than not

[odd rover]

Different universes

[thin prairie]

I honestly hope that the new world isn’t earth

Because a “fantasy world or sci fi world exists after humanity’s downfall” feels lame to me

[spark lotus]

i was denying the Forgotten Land was the ancient's home planet theory because it's not ruined enough.. we've got way more ruined ruins that could be related to them and Forgotten Land just has paper lying around that somehow hasn't decayed and still moving amusement park rides

but the ||Saturn motif|| is making it a lot harder to deny Dx

[junior fiber]

tbf it was always fantasy with or without the new world's involvement

[queen rune]

To be fair, The inhabitants of the Forgotten Land didn't die out, they just left

[odd rover]

There is a good chance the New World people are still alive and doing well

[spark lotus]

plus the whole going away to a land of dreams thing

[queen rune]

I don't see anything wrong with it personally

[spark lotus]

and like even if it was just a tourist attraction the technology doesn't match the more "modern" ancient tech

[stray arch]

It's done but if I post it it would be a text wall

[leaden terrace]

Damn maybe because this may be one of their earlier homes idk idk

[odd rover]

Well you see the reason Halcandra looks worse than New World is because ||It was probably deliberately destroyed||

[spark lotus]

eh not really what I was talking about

[queen rune]

Halcandra supposedly got destroyed by something (most likely the Master Crown) while with the Forgotten Land, nature just took back over

[stray arch]

I can dm it to someone if anybody wants it

[spark lotus]

sorry, tbh I didn't really have an example there, just writing off the lack of decay as "Hyrule is fine after 1,000 years" logic just seems super lame to me

[junior fiber]

side note, if the ancients really were the new world inhabitants i think its funny to imagine ||them leaving their home to inhabit places like halcandra and shiver star just for those civilizations to get screwed too||

[odd rover]

Whoops

Hyper-powerful multiversal nomads that fuck up every planet they settle on

[thin prairie]

Its not that its fantasy its the “its all after humanity died or left” thing I don’t like all that much

[queen rune]

Seems like it's a recurring theme with them.

[junior fiber]

well thats just preference ig

[odd rover]

I like the idea of an angry alien accidentally jump-starting the franchise

[junior fiber]

oh wait thats true

if this is all true elfilis kicked off the lore didnt he

[queen rune]

I guess to some people, the existence of humans kind of demystifies a fantasy setting, because humans are too closely related to reality

[odd rover]

I like humans in fantasy settings because I like reality checks like that

It’s like seeing backstage in a play

[junior fiber]

good thing i dont mind

[queen rune]

I'm more of the camp that it can work if done well and how they contrast or complement the establish setting

[odd rover]

“Snap back to reality”

[queen rune]

For example: I'm cool with humans in Sonic because the idea of a world where humans and anthro animal people just casually coexist makes the setting more nteresting

[thin prairie]

Yea it is. I personally just think of the ancients as not human. Not that they don’t have a place in kirby, I love adeline. I just think the idea is a little cliche

[odd rover]

Said anthro animals are from far off islands

Or different planets depending on the universe

[spark lotus]

humans randomly become obsessed with clockwork and gear motifs

i mean, we would..

though the Lor runes font still isn't the same as Forgotten Land's language, interestingly

[thin prairie]

I am fine with whatever the new world is as long as the people aren’t humans
Plus it wouldn’t even make sense since hyness is an ancient and he definitely isn’t human

[junior fiber]

i think they found the magic ancients later on maybe

[queen rune]

I truly believe it's only a matter of time till we get time travel as a main gimmick/ theme in a Kirby game

[spark lotus]

is halcandran a language?..

[odd rover]

So many people still haven’t realized the Ancients were probably more than one race

[spark lotus]

what do you mean by this

[odd rover]

New World people just jumpstarted it

Hell what if there was an empire

[spark lotus]

yeah was about to say maybe it's like how Jamba and Halcandran (if that language exists) would be separate languages

[queen rune]

With the clockwork and gear motif you mentioned, plus how time travel is a very prevalent theme with Galacta Knight, I think it might become a main motif for a Kirby game in the future, maybe with the ancients themselves

[thin prairie]

Well yea but to be fair we only have two examples of actual ancients so like what else can we say they were than galacta like and hyness like

[spark lotus]

so its just kinda a thought you had

yeah, there's some casual time travel going on with Magolor too now

[ocean mauve]

I wanna see Renaissance Italy but portrayed in a kirby aesthetic

[queen rune]

I'm of the mind that the Forgotten Land people were humans, and then joined Hyness' people when they arrived in Kirby's universe, joining together and effectively becoming the ancients

[odd rover]

The Lor could time travel since that Miiverse post in PR

[queen rune]

And then when Hyness' people got to powerful for the humans' liking, they banished them and erased their influence from recorded history

[paper herald]

magoland literally opens w/ “in a different world… in a different time”
i totally feel this and it’d be such a fun mechanic too

[odd rover]

I like to think that Shiver Star had normal humans on it and the New World people went like “Hey guys”

[queen rune]

I think that Shiver star was one of their last colonies in Kirby's universe

[spark lotus]

gift of technology at the expense of your world, but it's fine since this is the land of dreams and we can just ditch this world for a new one

[thin prairie]

I like to believe magolor is an ancients decedents
and I just realized he shares the traits that potentially connect him to both the borb bodied ancients and the squidward ones.
He has the ears and potentially floating limbs since we don’t know what hyness looks like under the robe. And the body type of the borbs like galacta

[junior fiber]

i like to think its one of their first due to how "primitive" the tech is compared to everything else

[odd rover]

You think the Ancients had an empire?

[queen rune]

probably

[junior fiber]

where's the ancients capital

[paper herald]

i wonder if he like knows because of ||the whole not halacandran thing||

[odd rover]

It probably wasn’t conquest

Just the New World people (humans) meeting and joining a bunch of civilizations together

[thin prairie]

Oh really he lied about that too?
Im missing a dialogue peice

[odd rover]

Yeah

[paper herald]

yeah

[queen rune]

A human ancient as a villain would probably amount to being the Kirby equivalent of Raven Beak

[thin prairie]

Well it was a cool theory
To the trash with it

[queen rune]

Yeah, Magolor is not halcandran

[spark lotus]

it's the 120 spheres dialogue

[paper herald]

heres the dialogue

[thin prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-out-rage-parks-and-rec-nick-offerman-ron-swanson-gif-17688925

[spark lotus]

well he's not from Halcandra but could still be a descendant of ancients if you pull some strings

[thin prairie]

Goodbye headcanon

[paper herald]

ME TOO.

[odd rover]

He learned about the Master Crown via some random dusty tome according to Magolor EX pause screen

[junior fiber]

so many hcs instantly destroyed

[paper herald]

No fr i cried

[odd rover]

Hey remember when we called Magolor’s species “Halcandran”

[paper herald]

i was so in denial i had to see it for myself because people kept talking abt it but i broke

[queen rune]

I think magolor not being an ancient himself (at least to his knowledge), but someone who just became fixated with their history makes him a bit more interesting

[spark lotus]

everyone's going to have to call their "Halcandran" ocs something different now.. oh no

[paper herald]

Honestly explains why his language was called magolorese now.

[spark lotus]

except for the ones who made like, Halcandra Dee ocs

[spark lotus]

wait what

[odd rover]

Miiverse strikes again

[thin prairie]

Can’t have shit in my imagination lore. King deez’s reality gets shattered again anyway I still think its cool that the ears are a confirmed ancients trait even if it doesn’t mean much now

[hexed current]

I see Magolor’s hood resembling Hyness’s ears as kind of an “ancients cosplay” since he is such a fan of them

[spark lotus]

eh? I know Hyness has them..

[junior fiber]

magolor had ancient merch

[thin prairie]

The ancients were all furries confirmed except galacta
He doesn’t like the cat ear gamer LED headphones. Thats why he was banished

[hexed current]

Magolor meets Hyness and hash tag nerds out

[spark lotus]

so like... I wonder about this.. Magolor made a whole language? probably inspired by the ancients.. I wonder if his name is supposed to be in "magolorese".. and that's why it translates to "false paradise" in jamba, lol

[junior fiber]

wait until the next game his mask's horns turn into cat ears

[paper herald]

i love how the dynamic shifted from magolor being a terrified son’n’t to a fanboy

[spark lotus]

Nova does resemble a cat

[thin prairie]

Nova is a cat bro meows

Literally in PR

[spark lotus]

ye

[odd rover]

Also about the “land of dreams” Leongar was referring to #1077968255232254092 message

[ocean condor]

Baro#8858 - #[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

LEONGAR (KIRBY AND THE FORGOTTEN LAND)
かつて、この地に 住んでいた者たちは
このお方から キセキの力を さずかり…
その力で かなた 夢の大地へと
飛び立って いったのだ。
The ones formerly living in this land were blessed with the power of miracles from this honorable one…
They flew off to a distant land of dreams with that power.

Track 102, the theme that plays in the exterior of the Lor area in Halcandra, is called...「夢にまでみた大地は」according to DeepL "The land of my dreams is"

Quoted by Goober#1101 • [352190357880045579] · Mar 6, 2023, 11:07 PM

[queen rune]

Unless Galacta turns out to be future anime Kirby

[thin prairie]

No.

[junior fiber]

halcandra confirmed land of dreams 🤯

[spark lotus]

ye i remember that

[queen rune]

I just took Land of Dreams as Kirby's universe in general, and not Dreamland specifically

[odd rover]

We had a conversation earlier today if the Beast Pack actually went to the “land of dreams” and how disappointed they’d be

[spark lotus]

or halcandra before it was destroyed

[junior fiber]

i never though it was dreamland that'd feel kind of on the nose 💀

[spark lotus]

yeah i was just remembering the memes haha

[thin prairie]

“Oh boy I always dreamt about living in an active volcano”

[odd rover]

Leongar expecting to find the people only find half-melted remains

[junior fiber]

maybe they thought they could plug the volcano with another giant lab again

[odd rover]

And probably getting attacked by Metal General

[thin prairie]

I cannot see halcandra used to be all sunshine and rainbows when the volcano takes up half the island

[spark lotus]

for real

maybe it originally wasn't an island 😳

so many suns..

[odd rover]

Pretty sure Halcandra was uninhabited when the New World people arrived

[odd rover]

True

Maybe the rest of the planet went boom

[thin prairie]

It probably was a whole planet
If not my head canon is that it was used mainly for just production of items. Since a lot of heated and energized earth from the volcano being constantly active meant there was a lot of metal

[queen rune]

So either Galacta Knight or the Master Crown destroyed it. Both have been said to destroy planets, and Galacta is fought in Dangerous Dinner in the True Arena

[spark lotus]

The ancients after nuking Earth (Shiver Star): Hey hey! At least we didn't explode the entire planet this time!

[odd rover]

Hey look

Epilogue spoilers

[junior fiber]

that bridge goes hard

[spark lotus]

Find the difference's parallel counterpart: find the similarities.. ah, uhm.. the smoke??

[thin prairie]

GALACTA KNIGHT CAUSED WEIRDAGEDDON

[odd rover]

It’s about to go soft when the heat warps the metal

[spark lotus]

its vaguely on the red spectrum lol

[vapid kestrel]

I miss when GK had red eyes

But lowkey I also miss his circular eyes in SSU

[spark lotus]

i was about to say that agh

[junior fiber]

||i think the master crown background is really interesting because like wtf caused that||

||hell raining down from the sky||

[vapid kestrel]

||I mean I assume it did||

[odd rover]

||I wonder who was wearing the crown when that happened||

[spark lotus]

||the crown itself if we go with the theory it's using the apple to time travel||

[queen rune]

Something I find interesting about Galacta is that he kind of works as a foil to how Kirby is perceived, specifically around his power. We ONLY hear about how strong he is and how much destruction he could (or has) caused, but never about how he feels. His power was feared so much they sealed him away for it. Where as Kirby, while recognized for his power by the villains, is able to live a happy life with his friends.

[thin prairie]

||The power of fruit||

[junior fiber]

||the master crown just sent magolor back in time as a power move? 😭 ||

[vapid kestrel]

||I just don’t get the point of the tine travel theory||

[odd rover]

||Or it’s an illusion||

[spark lotus]

||in a pause screen it tells you to "end this chain of destruction" which kind of implies the destruction you're seeing is actually happening||

[vapid kestrel]

||Like literally what does it accomplish||

[odd rover]

Yeah it just over complicates things

[burnt slate]

cool setpiece

[thin prairie]

Same

[odd rover]

||Doesn’t it also talk about how it’s taken previous victims||

[thin forge]

aight what we discussin now

[spark lotus]

I was a nonbeliever like you once

anyway I never have a personal attachment to these theories, for the record

[odd rover]

Burger king crown

[spark lotus]

I'd need to go check hmm

[thin forge]

whoppe-

gunshot

[junior fiber]

i just kind of dont want the reasoning of halcandra falling to be the master crown 😔

[queen rune]

If it wasn't the crown, it could've been Galacta

[odd rover]

Could’ve been both

[spark lotus]

do you mean ||the ones who wore the crown previously?||

[odd rover]

||Galacta gets caught||

||Proceeds to set the Master Crown loose||

[odd rover]

Yes

[spark lotus]

oh I see what you mean now

||in that context it'd be talking about the cycle of people possessed by the crown||

[queen rune]

||Galacta: allow me to just extra screw you over out of spite||

[spark lotus]

though ||in that same description it apparently starts inviting destruction (gesturing at Halcandra's fall in the background) /j||

guess it could be anything though really

||since magolor is fighting it||

[queen rune]

Which Copy ability which you found lackluster would you want them to try and redesign? I'd like Metal, ghost, and ball to get reworks in some way

[tawdry mulch]

||I saw it ass the Crown using the Apple to distort space time to back when it became an evil god tree that laid waste to the land||

[spark lotus]

||*滅亡 metsubou means destruction, downfall, ruin, extinction, usually of something like a country or clan or species.||
uh oh (also I'm looking at Faye's doc lol)

[tawdry mulch]

||after crown goes poof everything goes back to normal and a magical portal to the past opens how weiirrddd||

[junior fiber]

maybe it was just an illusion too?

[spark lotus]

well, ||we don't know that clash is in the past specifically... though it does look medieval||

[odd rover]

It’s almost like it was an illusion

[junior fiber]

power play

[tawdry mulch]

||Start of the clash games say they take place a long time ago in a far away realm ||

[queen rune]

||The thing about modern Kirby final bosses is that they are so casually powerful that the idea that they would be capable of time space manipulation isn't entirely out of the question.||

[odd rover]

||It’s definitely a primitive universe but no time travel shenanigans||

[tawdry mulch]

Unless Kumazaki decided to LIE

Ol lying ass

[pliant socket]

sorry for not adding more portals today guys!!! i was sleepy

i will do it tomorrow

[vapid kestrel]

||I mean whether the crown can manipulate time isn’t a question, the only question is why would what’s happening be that the crown went to destroy ancient halcandra||

[spark lotus]

oh yeah, ||no motives for the crime.. aside from bullshitting something like vengeance on the civilization that kept it from running free or something||

[vapid kestrel]

||I just don’t understand why interpret it that way instead of the crown just showing you the destruction it caused in the past||

[tawdry mulch]

That's what I assumed it was lmao

Sick flex

[odd rover]

Why do so many ppl feel the need to overcomplicate what happens

[peak dagger]

Yeah ||it being a thing from the past is how I read it too. It's a memory. Also it looks sick||

[spark lotus]

this also fits with ||the room of eden/apple of eden creating illusions/staging redemptions and stuff||

[tawdry mulch]

||Tree Crown without a ruler when the soggy egg with no magical powers restored enters the room||

Step it up ancients.

You can beat a|| tree. ||

[vapid kestrel]

||i think the more interesting thing is that the description says the crown traveled to many lands and worlds||

[odd rover]

Oh no bro

[vapid kestrel]

||so like, was it even from halcandra originally? Probably not right||

[vocal latch]

||CLASH❗❗||

[tawdry mulch]

I have no idea what that means so I will not think about it too deeply

Ancients road trip

Bring your crown to work day in a different dimension

[odd rover]

||Crown went through the multiverse||

[spark lotus]

||Master Crown is the reason Dedede's missing in clash ||

[tawdry mulch]

||It's okay Landia still has it in that time (for now) ||

[junior fiber]

oh fuck wait

2 master crowns lmao, who built the clash verse one

[odd rover]

||You think the Landia in SKC is just split from the timeline||

[junior fiber]

probably better not to think about it

[spark lotus]

||alt universe landia||

[odd rover]

Or the ||crown is a replica||

[spark lotus]

me thinking about ||Landia having the crown when they come to play in magoland..|| ..again

[tawdry mulch]

||honestly Ive been theorizing that they're the same and that Dream Kingdom is literally just on Halcandra (was) ||

[thin forge]

||is there one crown or does each universes version of landia have one||

||because parallel landia||

[vapid kestrel]

Well three, Parallel Landia is a different Landia than Clash Landia

[odd rover]

Parallels are replicas

[tawdry mulch]

AD when it shits out another crown for fun

[vapid kestrel]

Yea ig the funny mirror is responsible for parallel landia

[junior fiber]

now thats just overcompensating 😭

[tawdry mulch]

This is okay and not a problem at all

[junior fiber]

why is AD making clones of people and no one cares

[odd rover]

I’m pretty sure Landia in Clash is an alt timeline one where Magolor didn’t learn about the crown or something

[tawdry mulch]

Cause ancients decided to make universe-restructuring objects from the creator of all life

[spark lotus]

Parallel Nightmare trying to pull an anime Nightmare

[thin forge]

also, are there two extra susies (are parallel and pres. parallel susie the same i dont remember)

[vapid kestrel]

I mean
Yea
Its the clash universe

[thin forge]

DID SOMEONE SAY VOID?!

[odd rover]

Same character

[thin forge]

oh ok

[tawdry mulch]

I DIDN'T SAY VOID technically

[junior fiber]

they should just drop the AD game tbh i need it now more than ever

[tawdry mulch]

Technically speaking there was no mention of such a being

[spark lotus]

ah crap im gonna miss my duo streak brb

[thin forge]

i love void termina i want a void termina plush

[tawdry mulch]

TRUE

Life size put him at the dinner table

[thin forge]

phase 1 void termina

please

[junior fiber]

gorimondo

[tawdry mulch]

Urghhhh where is clash 3 I want it now!!!!!!

[spark lotus]

got my streak with 4 minutes til midnight x-x

[tawdry mulch]

Need my follow up information IMMEDIATELY

[vapid kestrel]

we don’t jnow either way whether pres parallel is the same person or not right

[vocal latch]

Parallel Susie & Pres. Parallel Susie are stated to be the same ones.

No, we do.

[junior fiber]

oh well there's that

[thin forge]

phantom gorimondo having the most disgusting color scheme ever

[tawdry mulch]

Wait really I thought they said the opposite lmao

[vapid kestrel]

Where are they stated to be the same

[spark lotus]

need a contest for worst designed Kirby character in the entire franchise

my bet's on Yamikage from the anime

[tawdry mulch]

Urghhhh this is why it should be in the GAME

I'm seething

[spark lotus]

(I dunno I cant think of anything else)

[vapid kestrel]

So fucking based

[tawdry mulch]

Parallel Susie comes to chill on the cart did she just decide to be fucking evil again

Actually thats in character

[vocal latch]

When you unlock her mission it states

[vapid kestrel]

Me when I personally think all the town cameos are noncanon

[vocal latch]

Same in English

[vapid kestrel]

This is for the second time you fight pres

[spark lotus]

Cappy Town actually has cameos??

[vocal latch]

No, it's also when you unlock Pres. In general

[junior fiber]

but SKC taranza needs a happy ending

[vapid kestrel]

This is her first desc

[junior fiber]

happyish ending

[cursive sandal]

isekai

[vocal latch]

I'm not talking about that one

I'm talking about the message that pops up when you unlock it

[vapid kestrel]

Oh wait like

[odd rover]

Toughest/God

[vapid kestrel]

Huh ok

[vocal latch]

Not her description on the menu

[tawdry mulch]

I've managed to come to terms with all of them but Hyness and the Sisters those ones hurt my brain

[junior fiber]

susie prologue better touch upon this 😤

[tawdry mulch]

I've already settled on ||Dream Kingdom is past Halcandra so where the FUCK do these guys fit in even without this theory LMAO||

Sure they're the same guys I guess???? I don't know man

[vapid kestrel]

Wait so you think it’s like

[odd rover]

Wait why would it be ||past Halcandra||

[vapid kestrel]

The same halcandra from rtdl?

[spark lotus]

OOOHH is that what you meant

[vapid kestrel]

Or do you mean its a parallel halcandra that’s also in the past

[spark lotus]

I thought you meant cappy town actually got cameos in the games but you were talking about the way Taranza and others show up in the adventure plaza or whatever

[tawdry mulch]

||Dream Kingdoms planet and dimension is Halcandras, and it's eventually becomes the Halcandra we see today basically||

[vapid kestrel]

||And you have a problem with the mage sisters and stuff but not Taranza???||

[tawdry mulch]

||He's just AU Taranza I GUESS clash makes my brain hurt this is the only way I could make sense of it remotely LMAO||

||new game please!!!! ||

[spark lotus]

is there a vid of all the cameos you can get in the town square

[odd rover]

||Being totally honest that’s even more convoluted than it being just an au Popstar||

[vapid kestrel]

||I feel like your idea that its past halcandra solves 0 problems and introduces hundreds||

[tawdry mulch]

Is there something about Taranza I don't know about in Clash

[vapid kestrel]

Whack af

[vocal latch]

Parallel Susie when she goes from fighting you, to chilling with you, to become president and fight you again lmfao

[spark lotus]

personally im glad there aren't TWO susie clones

one edgy clone would be enough for any character.. maybe even an entire franchise

[odd rover]

Me when AD makes two parallel forms

[solar harbor]

Darkness will fade away
Team Kirby will light your way
Corporate invader has descended
And you are not alone

[junior fiber]

Super Kirby clash 2 is coming out in 2024 so I hope you’re determined to see this theory through

[spark lotus]

flashbacks to the Dream Friends getting cloned

[tawdry mulch]

||Idkkk it makes more sense to me tbhhh given there is ancients stuff in clash, we see its ruins in Decisive Battlefield, Landia with funny crown is there, and elemental Pop Star bosses show up in ME||

[junior fiber]

Glitch in the AD matrix

[tawdry mulch]

All the problems are Clashes for being STUPID and poorly explored urghhh clash be good for one second

[odd rover]

The ruins are the town

[tawdry mulch]

Correct

[odd rover]

Like you can see the mission board (I forgot what it’s called) peaking out

[spark lotus]

wait would that mean Team Kirby was the four heroes of yore and also responsible for sealing Galacta Knight

[junior fiber]

Wait that’s actually cooking…….

[tawdry mulch]

||I forgot to mention the fact that Magolor even gets sent there in the first place literally why does he get sent to the past of some random world||

[vapid kestrel]

||So like, in your timeline, when do the ancients develop technology then
Why are they a medieval style kingdom, when do they start building factories and modern buildings like in the crown battle||

[spark lotus]

i dunno if i should spoiler tbh im not connecting the dots to anything spoilery

[vocal latch]

It's implied that the Team Kirbys between the two games are different teams lol

[junior fiber]

How incredible

[odd rover]

The four heroes of yore are actually the main four who went back in time

[spark lotus]

yeah i think the other one's called Team Kirby Z? maybe?

[vapid kestrel]

I still can’t accept the idea that SKC and TKCD are the same continuity

[junior fiber]

I’m just gonna pretend every clash game before SKC doesn’t exist tbh

[solar harbor]

Well, Bandee's comment regarding Castle Village in SKC contradicts that tbh

[tawdry mulch]

||Well they made less techy stuff on their Pop Star civilizations. And the ruins in ME are more medieval too. I think they just did both||

[spark lotus]

the legend of Dark Mind falling to four heroes was the story of the previous clash all along

[vapid kestrel]

No tkcd has team kirby and skc has super team kirby

[tawdry mulch]

Super team kibley

[junior fiber]

💀

Next one’s gonna have ultra team Kirby

[vapid kestrel]

Super Team Kibble

[spark lotus]

right i think I just took Team Kirby Z from the novel then

[thin forge]

were going back in time to super kirby clash to get aeon hero off the menu. thats right, were going back in time to super kirby clash to get aeon hero OFF the MENU

[tawdry mulch]

NO HE'S ALL I HAVE

[vocal latch]

How does it contradict the notion they're different Kirbys

[spark lotus]

the bringing back memories line?

[vocal latch]

I said the Kirbys are different; nothing about Magolor or Bandana Dee.

[odd rover]

Oh and ||what do the elemental bosses prove? And Landia is probably an alt timeline one||

[vapid kestrel]

Kuma when he reveals GK is not one of the ancient heroes he just decided to shape his energy beams into heart spears to taunt the heroes

[tawdry mulch]

||It's a SKC gimmick and the fact they're from Pop Star period||

[junior fiber]

Speaking of heart spears

[tawdry mulch]

This ain't their home town

[spark lotus]

||eh, cuz they're both in epilogue and in clash.. but I think Nightmare made the elemental bosses? and the ones in the epilogue are born from something else||

[thin forge]

https://tenor.com/view/samueljackson-stupid-decision-avengers-gif-8475062

[vapid kestrel]

I think there are just elemental fuckers bc why not

[odd rover]

||Pretty sure Crowned Doomer made the elemental bosses||

[vocal latch]

I mean, the Elemental bosses in Epilogue aren't even following the same name scheme as Clash

Unlike Parallel Bosses

[junior fiber]

Still wish they called him Electricooter

[tawdry mulch]

||Landia thing gets messy with the crown its the one thing that I stared down Clash for like years. How tf is this guy here WITH the crown how how how||

[peak dagger]

This is one of those times I'm going to say is "because they thought it was cool". It's a neat way to revisit bosses with a new twist

[odd rover]

||Imo this feels like copium to deny the multiverse existing||

[junior fiber]

||multiverse is HERE and it is COMING||

[tawdry mulch]

Potentially however I find this BORING and want to search for deeper meaning behind these decisions

[odd rover]

||It could really just be a different Landia. Maybe an au, maybe branching off Halcandra’s universe||

[vocal latch]

I mean, I think it's easier to connect them with the Elemental Doomers you fight in Main Story

[odd rover]

That’s true

[vocal latch]

Mainly due to the anesthetics of each world and ||Rampaging Doomers even being purple normal ass Doomers but OP as hell||

[junior fiber]

Tbh I feel like there’re way too many holes in this theory to begin with

[vocal latch]

Yeah, Halcandra's never been called a Parallel World

Just a different dimension

[tawdry mulch]

That would kinda just give it away instantly wouldn't it lmao

I don't feel like they need to say that tbh

[vocal latch]

Give away what?

The two terms are established to mean different things in the Kirby universe.

[tawdry mulch]

That it's parallel Pop Star

[vocal latch]

Parallel ≠ Dimension ≠ Time

Another Dimension can send you to all 3 things

[junior fiber]

Gah damn

[tawdry mulch]

Idk seems kinda semantical compared to the actual stuff going on imo

[vocal latch]

Not really.

[vapid kestrel]

You know what the funniest thing is

[vocal latch]

They state HR-D3 crosses dimensions and parallels

[tawdry mulch]

Like idek how I'm supposed to parse|| Magolor just getting sent to some random world in the past|| lmao

[vapid kestrel]

Firstly do we agree that parallels are basically like
AUs where many things match the ‘main’ universe

[vocal latch]

Yeah.

[tawdry mulch]

Idk for me personally I feel like there is probably a reason

[odd rover]

Mhm

[spark lotus]

parallel bosses?

[vapid kestrel]

I think its funny that
The mirror world probably wouldn’t qualify as a Parallel

[spark lotus]

cuz a few of them are like created or something.. the jamba ones really

[vocal latch]

Parallel Bosses in JP aren't called Parallel but "Another"

[spark lotus]

and yes that is hilarious

I LOVE that kirby doesn't follow the edgy mirror world trope but there's still parallel worlds

[vapid kestrel]

Me when 69% of the resemblances to Kirby’s world in the mirror world are not native to the place but made by the mirror

[junior fiber]

I thought the mirror was so over complicated with how it produced copies of things but now I like the thought of it only reflecting the worst traits of someone and not just making opposite versions

[tawdry mulch]

||I feel like given that we only have Clash and it was just made canon we really don't have anything concrete that can be said about parallels. Especially given the possibility of New World and Shiver Star being different versions of each other||

[spark lotus]

Dark Mind symbol Susie is suspicious to me still

randomly worshipping a manifestation of evil is profitable for business lol

[vocal latch]

Sure, but how does that relate to Parallel worlds?

[vapid kestrel]

Dark Mind symbol Susie is the worst thing to ever come out of Clash

[vocal latch]

Also true

[spark lotus]

would think it means she was born and thus not from an entire edgy parallel world

[tawdry mulch]

Clash moment

[vocal latch]

In the interview they state the Parallel Bosses were born from the mirror, so that's like the only connection.

[junior fiber]

She made a business deal

Sponsoring dark mind duh

Why else would she plaster the symbol

[odd rover]

Trade Offer ‼️

[tawdry mulch]

Parallel Landia representing nothing

No sponsorship

[vocal latch]

It annoys me that Parallel Landia doesn't come out from an AD portal

[vapid kestrel]

Honestly I hate the fact that all the parallels are born from the mirror

[tawdry mulch]

How the hell did the Parallels come back in SKC didnt we break the fucking mirror

[odd rover]

I repaired it

[vocal latch]

I mean, Parallel Susie entered through a Dimensional Tear

[tawdry mulch]

I prefer the mirror thing only cause I don't want to think about the logistics of any of this tbh

If only this was IN THE GAME

KUMAZAKI

[junior fiber]

clash is so fucking weird for no reason

[vocal latch]

We see them enter with Dimensional Tears Ampether lol

[odd rover]

Black Mirror is weird

[spark lotus]

I kinda prefer the mirror thing because edgy parallel world is meh? but thats probably a mega preference thing

[vocal latch]

So the mirror being destroyed doesn't stop anything

[junior fiber]

You ruined everything

I wish the black mirror didn’t exist

[odd rover]

Sorry was feeling silly

[odd rover]

Me too

[vapid kestrel]

I kinda just think that the parallels are from other dimensions even despite the interview

[spark lotus]

also it adds to her character arc imo. You lose everything to a clone of yourself, except you ARE the clone and you had no right to it anyway.. so she becomes the president of a company

[odd rover]

Genuinely there is like no reason for it to exist

[vapid kestrel]

What parallels are there in clash again
Landia, susie, and uhhh

[tawdry mulch]

WHY DO THEY STILL EXIST team Kirby is literally not doing their job KILL THEM

[odd rover]

Nightmare

[vocal latch]

I mean they didn't really kill them tho

[vapid kestrel]

Oh right Nightmare

[junior fiber]

And these parallels are from the mirror? Or AD

[tawdry mulch]

Straight up fire team Kirby we need a new team

[spark lotus]

like, both, kinda

[odd rover]

Why tf does Nightmare have a parallel counterpart

[vocal latch]

Parallel Susie/Pres. Parallel Susie, Parallel Landia & Parallel Nightmare

[odd rover]

How did that happen

[tawdry mulch]

No reason these AD monsters should be running around

[spark lotus]

yeah the clone thing brings up questions about AD just popping out edgy clones of everyone

[peak dagger]

Probably so they can include him without people going "isn't he supposed to be dead?!?"

[tawdry mulch]

I guess he just decided not to pull up till later

[spark lotus]

but personally it was all the mirror's influence, though they aren't made directly by the mirror

[vocal latch]

My headcanon is he was a Parallel Boss that was hiding during TKCD

[vapid kestrel]

The interview is weird, it basically says that the mirror has magic in it that connects it to AD, but then says the mirror ‘created’ the parallel bosses and uses the same term for it creating Dark Taranza as well

[junior fiber]

Lmao what

[junior fiber]

[odd rover]

Schrodingers mirror

[lost briar]

this is why clash lore sucks fr

[odd rover]

The mirror simultaneously is and isn’t connected to AD

[tawdry mulch]

I'm assuming mirrors connection to AD makes AD go on the fritz thus the Parallels are born

[lost briar]

that damned mirror

[junior fiber]

Complete dog water

[tawdry mulch]

Clash lore when it's not in the DAMN GAME

[vapid kestrel]

Like what the fuck is this explanation

[solar harbor]

Jesus just use pause descriptions or something

[spark lotus]

AD is just what gets upset when you mess with the fabric of space time too much, which is what the mirror did /headcanon

[tawdry mulch]

And language locked

[solar harbor]

If you want those lore in the actual game

[long breach]

☠️

[lost briar]

that doesn't really work in an online game

[peak dagger]

I mean, the story isn't online

[lost briar]

and also they use the quest board descriptions as replacements

[tawdry mulch]

Idk make Magolor talk shit about the bosses. Or even Bandee he does it for Aeon lol

[odd rover]

Ok ok so

The Black Mirror simply summoned the Parallels and created Dark Taranza

[junior fiber]

God clash would be so better off without the fucking mirror

[vapid kestrel]

I’d like to just interpret it that way tbh

[odd rover]

Finally my headache is over

[tawdry mulch]

Black Mirror caused them to be created by AD

I guess

I hate clash

[odd rover]

I understand everything now

[junior fiber]

I guess that makes sense

[spark lotus]

its weird, I feel like I remember them using "born" in reference to the Paralells

[solar harbor]

WiKirby also mentions the Black Mirror is supposed to be a gateway to Another Dimension so there's that

[vapid kestrel]

Yea its literally in that paragraph above I just posted

[spark lotus]

oh RIGHT in the sentence right after the one i just read

[long breach]

bro i thought it was just mirror = gateway to other dimensions what the hell is this

[spark lotus]

sorry I skimmed

[junior fiber]

The real question is what happens when you put the black mirror in front of the dimension mirror

[solar harbor]

The universe would implode

[odd rover]

The multiverse goes boom

[spark lotus]

i think it is though

[tawdry mulch]

Black Mirror 🤝 Jamba Heart
We will make evil clones of people because why not

[vapid kestrel]

Me when it says the Parallel Bosses are summoned one line then says they’re born from the mirror like Dark Taranza the next

[spark lotus]

the original mirror is called Dimension Mirror iirc?

[solar harbor]

??????

[tawdry mulch]

Me when I summon a baby

[solar harbor]

Is this pulled from Japanese or English

[long breach]

💀

[spark lotus]

this actually got a laugh out of me

[tawdry mulch]

This doesn't exist in english LMAOLL

[thin forge]

guys i think team kirby died

[junior fiber]

Me when I shatter the dark mirror to smithereens with a sledgehammer

[long breach]

i wonder what sakurai thinks of the lore

[thin forge]

"da hell is this"

[tawdry mulch]

Japanese exclusive info moment

[vapid kestrel]

Sakurai is the one that made pause descriptions remember that

[spark lotus]

the eternal curse of "pause for lore"

[harsh dragon]

Yeah but they were never THIS elaborate

[vapid kestrel]

Im pretty sure he said in an interview something basically along the lines of ‘i did it because people like lore’

[harsh dragon]

Oh damn lol nvm

[tawdry mulch]

Kumazaki decided to be bold for clash

[long breach]

he sure did 💀

[tawdry mulch]

And provide no information

[vocal latch]

You know what the funniest thing is, we have the exact same summon birth debacle with D-Mind

[tawdry mulch]

Clash 3 has literal paragraphs to dump

[spark lotus]

i remember that

[harsh dragon]

That final boss for Magolor Epilogue is something I’m STILL obsessing over

[tawdry mulch]

To explain all of this in an accessible fashion

TRUE

[thin forge]

forgot land

[lost briar]

Nightmare in Dream Land and its consequences have been a disaster for the kirby fandom

[long breach]

speaking of mag epilogue do y’all think he should be playable in arena/true arena

[thin forge]

yee

[spark lotus]

I've heard people say the gachas are worse and I think I'm inclined to agree

[tawdry mulch]

yes kumazaki flipped a coin and decided no on that

[thin forge]

username checks out

[long breach]

💀

[junior fiber]

NiDL pause screen lore is like that one image of the tiny domino knocking over larger and larger dominos

[harsh dragon]

Would be a really cool bonus for beating the arena and true arena for the first time

[long breach]

yeah that’s what i’m saying

[tawdry mulch]

Pause lore into interviews with a games worth of information pipeline

[odd rover]

https://tenor.com/view/taeuvre-squidward-squidward-shocked-squidward-break-gif-26165410

[junior fiber]

The pause screen lore revolution and it’s consequences

[harsh dragon]

I’m really excited to reach the true arena myself

[vapid kestrel]

[long breach]

same but extra mode seems almost like a chore ☠️

[harsh dragon]

I’ve heard they giga buffed Magolor Soul

[tawdry mulch]

D Mind is hilarious cause why the fuck he dedede

[odd rover]

Anyway I hope pause lore burns in Hades

[long breach]

yeah but they also buffed extra mode

[harsh dragon]

Nah I’m looking forward to it

[long breach]

less healing items and almost no max tomatoes

[tawdry mulch]

literally no way to know why hes fucking dedede in game LMAO

[junior fiber]

Yeah can someone remind me why it took the form of dedede I know it isn’t

[odd rover]

I love how we legitimately have no idea what D-Mind is

[harsh dragon]

Fuck yeah I love a good challenge

[spark lotus]

Dark Taranza imagined someone brutal and that's what came out

[junior fiber]

Dedede is also the only one who’s not in castle town like 💀

[spark lotus]

iirc

[long breach]

same

[junior fiber]

Huh

[spark lotus]

he wanted a warrior out of the mirror or something

[lost briar]

no fucking way

[spark lotus]

ye I'd probably be more helpful if I could find the actual thing

[junior fiber]

And the mirror spat out dedede

[spark lotus]

i think its another interview

[tawdry mulch]

Taranza said "I like strong men and I am currently thinking about then and I will imbue this dark being with my thoughts like Hyness Kirby Star Allies" so Dark Mind said "woah thats cool and a strong man in this kingdom is Dedede so I will be him"

[long breach]

there’s apparently a theory that dedede is one of the 4 heroes of yore but not sure about that one

[lost briar]

oh it existed for thepast two weeks

[junior fiber]

I follow

[harsh dragon]

I think extra mode is a great addition. A substantial part of the game being very challenging is much better than all the challenge being relegated to the true arena and some minigame side modes

[long breach]

it is good

[burnt slate]

bc clash can only make 1 brand new boss each entry (taranza, p.nightmare) so they opted for shadow dedede as a base since its the closest one to dark matter in terms of attacks

[tawdry mulch]

Oh em cheeeeseee its just like Void hes imbued by the thoughts of the people who summon him no waaaay

[vapid kestrel]

Wait when do they ever say d-mind was summoned in tkcd

[tawdry mulch]

He became fat fucking penguin

[junior fiber]

So like, black mirror dark mind stole dedede’s appearance

[vocal latch]

I just sent u the image 😭

[harsh dragon]

I also think that extra mode does a better job of preparing people for the true arena rather than just throwing them to the deep end after a 1-2 hour side mode

[long breach]

it’s because it’s the purest perfectest form imaginable

dedede is peak performance

[tawdry mulch]

Good job Taranza you could have chosen anything and he took the form of a penguin

Still would have had the gross eye though so I dont think it would have been a good Sectonia replacement

[vapid kestrel]

[long breach]

speaking of dedede i find it hilarious how everybody else basically just stays the same but dedede changes design every 5 years 💀

[odd rover]

I just realized decisive battlefield is a parallel universe to a parallel universe

[vapid kestrel]

Ah lol

[harsh dragon]

Sometimes even less time than that 💀

[long breach]

soon dededesign lore will rival kirby lore itself

☠️

[spark lotus]

we've never actually seen what any character in Kirby looks like because our vision is tainted by the game's artstyle /j

[harsh dragon]

The virgin Astral Birth Void lore vs the CHAD dededesign lore

[long breach]

frfr

[tawdry mulch]

This hurts my brain so for now I just say it's the Clash verse's eventual remains in AD since AD is beyond space time

I mentally cannot process Magolors shop cart in both places and them being different timelines my brain will short circuit

[tawdry mulch]

I patiently await the reveal that Dedede gets frequent cosmetic surgery

[thin forge]

d-mind WAS the monstah to clobber that there kirbeh

[tawdry mulch]

Very true

[junior fiber]

Dedede singlehandedly keeping dreamlands cosmetic surgery business alive

[thin forge]

waddle dees using cosmetic surgery to give themselves a mouth

[vapid kestrel]

There is one possibility I’ve considered on and off for a while that would make it make sense, I just never wanted it to be true

[junior mesa]

he gets a haircut (from waddle dees)
gets a bad cut every now and then

[tawdry mulch]

Cosmetic Surgeon Waddle Dee when Dedede enters for the fifth time this year

[thin forge]

whats wrong with the star allies design again

[tawdry mulch]

I'm scared

[burnt slate]

ppl didn't like dedede's thousand yard stare when idle

plus neck

for some users

[lost briar]

i think the thing people didn't like was the smaller eyes?

idk

[odd rover]

Magolor’s shop isn’t in the decisive battlefield no?

[thin forge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-big-eyes-big-ol-eyes-staring-stop-staring-gif-20959711

[tawdry mulch]

If it's clash related the fear of clash doing anything other than what I've theorized fills me with fear

[lost briar]

i don't really mind

[tawdry mulch]

I just want to understand that stupid free to play spin off in any capacity

[vapid kestrel]

That possibility being that the Black Mirror like retroactively created an entire dimension
So like Parallel Susie and D-Mind come from a dimension that was technically newly created when Taranza used the mirror, but has retroactively always existed, so Susie and King D-Mind do have histories and know each other

[tawdry mulch]

anonNONOBONO

[junior fiber]

WHO LET HER COOK

[spark lotus]

oh man I thought you were going to say something about why Dedede's Dededesign changes constantly

[odd rover]

Oh no

[tawdry mulch]

My brain would MELT

[odd rover]

Um uh umm it’s just a cart

Not Magolor’s

aneurism prevented

[tawdry mulch]

Yeah. The world is in turmoil Kumazaki you can just plagiarize my theory if you need to idc I just don't want to be annoyed by Clash

Do ANYTHING make it a book or something

Fake world Magolor fanfiction

Help me OUT

[burnt slate]

finally, the official kirby timeline that adds unnecessary stuff to it

[tawdry mulch]

Clash 3 coming September my mental stability rides on its revelations

[spark lotus]

anyway yeah this theory would destroy my perception of the mirror's power level lol

[tawdry mulch]

Mirror accidentally making a new pocket dimension oopsie poodles

[spark lotus]

dang it's almost 1 am

[tawdry mulch]

I guess Jamba Heart literally did do that

[vapid kestrel]

I mean the mirror already connects to AD which means it can connect to different times,
So if that makes the mirror too powerful maybe it like
Made D-Mind and Parallel Susie, put them in some dimension, then pulled them out from that dimension 15 years into its future

[tawdry mulch]

But it's okay because theyre totally dead we killed them

Dimension Mirror is in thin ice if it's sister version can do all of this

[vapid kestrel]

It’s like that stupid skyward sword sidequest where you plant a tree in the past to take its fruit in the present
But instead the mirror created parallel susie and d-mind and then put them in some dimension and pulled out their future versions and that’s why susie has d-mind’s symbol

[tawdry mulch]

Dedede needs to go on that tour now

I hope the guy that made these mirrors got a special place in hell

[vapid kestrel]

Kuma will make us cry in the next Kirby game when the final boss summons a mirror to shoot a laser at you and then the guidebook calls it the Master Mirror of Jealousy and Desire

[thin prairie]

do we know kumazaki's favorite kirby game?

[tawdry mulch]

Deep lore of the one asshat who keeps making evil mirrors

[vapid kestrel]

Adventure

[tawdry mulch]

Old ass

[thin prairie]

gotcha

[tawdry mulch]

Is that why he still hasn't given Nightmare lore lmao

Too scared to touch the antagonist of his favorite game it's too sacred

[junior mesa]

tbf parallel nightmare

[tawdry mulch]

Parallel

[thin prairie]

give nightmare lore kumazaki 📣

[tawdry mulch]

Not the real guy still

[junior mesa]

idk what lore they'd give normal nightmare anyways

[tawdry mulch]

AND no lore to boot

Kumazaki is keeping Nightmare on the back burner for one enormous world shaking reveal

[vapid kestrel]

I think its funny when kuma describe things as nightmares (悪夢 akumu)

He uses this word in Hyness’s description and ||TA Magolor Soul phase 1 description||

[tawdry mulch]

Kumazaki cooking something malicious with Nightmare fr

Or he's just letting it burn

[vapid kestrel]

Me when Nightmare is the lamest nightmare

[tawdry mulch]

Kumazaki ain't even thawed out Nightmare he ain't ready to cook

Dark matter got so much STUFF and the series first antagonist that isnt Dedede gets some fights in a spin off

And then got killed for Galacta to get lore

[vapid kestrel]

Oh Right Hyness also talks about the funny nightmare of a galactic crisis but I mean this desc

[tawdry mulch]

Nightmare of a galactic crisis oh my gooood

Kumazaki might have just forgotten about that one

Not cooking at all still in the container

Sitting in the fridge

[vapid kestrel]

I think it’s funny that Nightmare is like
Children’s adventure final boss

Before the actual big boys came to play

[peak dagger]

Nightmare walked so that modern bosses could run

[vapid kestrel]

Hey at least he introduced teleporting final bosses trope

[burnt slate]

idk, marx was the one that more paved in the final bosses today

[vapid kestrel]

Still so weird that void never teleports ever at all

I guess that’s another dark matter reference since none of them teleport either

[spark lotus]

With the whole "nightmare of a galactic crisis" thing I think Clash's plot is a parody of something with the real Nightmare

[long breach]

i want more 4 heroes of yore lore

[burnt slate]

nightmare was mostly projectiles w/ a protective weak spot & the closest boss that acts like that was dark mind

[tawdry mulch]

He was the original big evil weird offputting guy and now he's child's play

[vapid kestrel]

No but seriously Dark Matter, Zero, Zero Two, Dark Nebula, and Void are the only final bosses that don’t teleport

Though Dark Daroach can teleport

Even Dedede can teleport in Drum Dash

[burnt slate]

daroach just moves really fast

[tawdry mulch]

I've had this thought cross my mind it would be interesting

[long breach]

you mean final bosses? because

[tawdry mulch]

One big non teleporting family

[spark lotus]

There's that whole theory that the specific thing it parodies is the divergence of the anime and game timelines lol

[vapid kestrel]

I said final bosses

[long breach]

oh

☠️

[long breach]

dedede kirby’s dreamland

[vapid kestrel]

Not including spinoffs of course

[long breach]

👍👍👍👍👍

[prisma island]

dark nebby using daroach as a crutch

[vapid kestrel]

I still yearn for the day we fight possessed queen ripple

[peak dagger]

Oh man that would be cool

[thin prairie]

kirby 64 deluxe

[tawdry mulch]

My personal HC is that Galacta was the crisis and while the ancients stopped him they got scared away into Halcandra. Galacta was actually just trying to protect the main verse from their dimensional meddling when it got too far

[thin prairie]

[pliant socket]

Maybe in Kirby 64 Deluxe, coming yesterday

[long breach]

my dream is to have every kirby game remastered on switch but that’ll never happen lmao

[cursive sandal]

Whatever caused galacta to get sealed, I doubt he had bad intentions.

[pliant socket]

Too much work for such a task

[odd rover]

Galacta Knight did too much trolling

[pliant socket]

Especially for something that will most likely give little return

[long breach]

but yeah in rtdl dx there’s the past adventures which includes robobot and stuff does that mean rtdl takes place after???

[pliant socket]

Game development isn't free you know

[long breach]

exactly why that’ll never happen

[vapid kestrel]

Me when Kumazaki creates a Kirby 64 remake with possessed queen ripple fight ad the final boss of the boss rush
Me when it takes place in a parallel world where kirby did not collect all the shards and ripple destroyed all the fairies and the pause description says ‘reunite her with her beloved subjects’

[long breach]

i know 💀

[pliant socket]

idk why it's phrased like that. It's past in the sense that those are the games that released before the remake

[cursive sandal]

Getting sealed in an "indestructible" crystal prison for who knows how long and repeatedly getting freed for no purpose other than to be someone's opponent in a fight would probably take a toll on someone's mental state

[pliant socket]

Not that the remake came after those

[peak dagger]

That's "past" in the sense of real world time. These are the games that you can still buy (for a very limited time in a bunch of those cases)

[tawdry mulch]

||Yeah the whole thing about Clash being canon got me thinking cause why does he go Light and Dark mode there but nowhere else (aside from against the Jamba Heart). For now I just HC that he did it because the Ancients were in Clash verse so he wanted to take the opportunity to get through Team Kirby and finish the job he started before he got sealed||

[pliant socket]

2 weeks.

[peak dagger]

Yeah

VERY limited time

[vapid kestrel]

Honestly I can’t wait for Aeon Hero to just
Not be Galacta Knight

[tawdry mulch]

||That job being the Galactic Crisis in main verse where he kicked their shit in lmaoo||

[long breach]

that would be funny

[tawdry mulch]

I will destroy HAL labs

[long breach]

it would be funny

[vapid kestrel]

Like all the other GK appearances in the series are the same guy but Aeon Hero is a parallel GK

[tawdry mulch]

It would be funny but I would faint

[long breach]

oh dear god not this again ☠️

[cursive sandal]

In super star/ssu, he flies away almost immediately after being freed, right?

[tawdry mulch]

I would pass out if Kumazaki ever said Galacta and Aeon were different people

[vapid kestrel]

I mean you gotta wonder why he looks like he ordered wing enlargement pills

[pliant socket]

Kirby fans when they hear "parallel"

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-headache-gif-21575957

[long breach]

doesn’t he explode

[cursive sandal]

No, after being summoned by nova

[vapid kestrel]

Yea funny gk explodes like nova after the battle

[cursive sandal]

Before the fight

[odd rover]

He’s not in Super Star

[tawdry mulch]

He explodes in Clash like three times before they put him in a rock

[long breach]

yeah and meta knight flies after him catching up and going ahead of him

[vapid kestrel]

Well he stares down MK first

[cursive sandal]

He runs away and meta chases after him, right?

[burnt slate]

||a random nico comment pointed this out, but I wonder if there's some implications with how they call galacta's gay baby jail a "gem" seal in a game where the gem apple plays a prominent role in rtdl dx ||

[long breach]

which means meta is faster??!!!

[pliant socket]

I think I gaslit myself once into thinking that he flew back into nova like marx

and then exploded

[vapid kestrel]

[vocal latch]

I like how his death in SSU was kinda retconned lmfao

[tawdry mulch]

Galacta is merely explosion immune

[long breach]

actually wait what happens to nova after metaknightmare ultra

☠️

[cursive sandal]

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the "first" time galactic was freed from the prison, so he immediately tried to escape

[tawdry mulch]

Dude can't die he literally blows up multiple times in clash LMAOO

[odd rover]

Note Meta Knight arrives at the platform before Galacta Knight

And Galacta Knight still fights him

[long breach]

yeah

[vapid kestrel]

Your face when Galacta’s wings fall off in the next Kirby game but someone gives him power and he gets up and new ones sprout out of his back

[lost briar]

||mfers when they see the ending that the nintendo direct teased and assume the pink gems meant galacta||

[vocal latch]

He only blows up once in SKC

[tawdry mulch]

Me that was me

Oh was it once what happens the other times

[vocal latch]

Ok but Galacta Knight Epilogue would be epic

[long breach]

kirby fans when micro transactions:

[tawdry mulch]

I know last fight he's sealed

[vapid kestrel]

Why were there pink gems in the air again was there literally any reason

[long breach]

a galacta knoght prologue 👍👍👍👍

[tawdry mulch]

In light he fucking explodes

[vocal latch]

He flies away as Aeon Hero, explodes into feathers as Aeon Hero (Light) and sealed as Dark

[lost briar]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[long breach]

takes place in the past they seal void terminal

[tawdry mulch]

Okay unfortunately only dies once a real shame

[vocal latch]

https://media.giphy.com/media/7xbZYq6QtiLo9hbwmc/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/VYvPgEsCUwXB3A2v57/giphy.gif

[lost briar]

goodbye chat

[tawdry mulch]

He should have blown up multiple times smh

[cursive sandal]

You've been sealed for who knows how long and have possibly gone insane. You get freed. What do you do first? Get tf out of there. Understandable behavior

[tawdry mulch]

God he looks so COOL

[burnt slate]

||that's the gem part of master crown's face||

[cursive sandal]

HAL really needs to expand on galacta

[vocal latch]

||Those were from the Red Fruit, I think?||

Oh that too

[pliant socket]

Shout out to the portal frfr ong

[odd rover]

He deliberately fought Meta Knight

[tawdry mulch]

Yummy portal

[vocal latch]

||Yeah ok the gem part of MC makes more sense than Red Fruit lmfao||

[odd rover]

Oh yeah Galacta Knight loves war

[vapid kestrel]

I can’t wait for them to reveal GK can teleport/transform into a bunch of feathers like Morpho can with butterflies

[tawdry mulch]

He should be a little dove

[vocal latch]

Bird Galacta vs Bat Meta vs Butterfly Morpho

Who wins

[cursive sandal]

I haven't played ss or ssu so I don't know specifics

[burnt slate]

blows up like a pillow

[pliant socket]

Mirror Dark

[tawdry mulch]

Then we can make fan art of Galacta with dove soap

[odd rover]

He’s not even in Super Star

[pliant socket]

You see instead of transforming into a bird he transforms into GLASS

so if you touch him....

You BLEED

[odd rover]

Oh no!

Our Galacta Knight!

It’s broken!

[cursive sandal]

Again, never played either so I don't know what stuff is ssu only

[vapid kestrel]

Tbh I still can’t get over how good GK looks with outlines

[vocal latch]

Ok but for Amazing Mirror remake or whatever they lowkey should make "Dark Galacta Knight" a thing, his intro can be that Galacta Knight appears, then looks at the Dimension Mirror and then gets SLASHED by his shadow shown there, and DGK appears

[tawdry mulch]

Galacta Knight SLANDER he's actually the scrunkliest bunkliest splorgo there is

[cursive sandal]

Scrimblo

Very scrunkle

[burnt slate]

war crimes

[tawdry mulch]

My man's may not be cooking in this game but he sure did dress good

[burnt slate]

galacta def got a bit of a glow up in rtdl dx

[vapid kestrel]

||I still can’t believe they did jack with neither gk nor morpho in this game||

[tawdry mulch]

Also he got 30 swords now how cute

[odd rover]

So funny

[burnt slate]

stuff like the crescent shot leaving sparkles behind (even if it's taken from the skyward shot projectile) & the lightning summons

[vapid kestrel]

We will finally see what’s under GK’s mask when he gets 86 Energy Shower

[tawdry mulch]

||I thought the galacta one was locked in lmaoooooooooooo||

[cursive sandal]

||I was very disappointed when the epilogue didn't have morpho at all||

[peak dagger]

You'd think they'd at least ||do something like have galacta's crystal float by in the background as an Easter egg or something||

[vocal latch]

||I wanna headcanon that Galacta Knight goes to his own version of Ethereal Altar after each time of getting defeated but he can't get a break lmfao||

[heavy smelt]

Hello chat. ||I just 100%ed Magolor Epilogue, all Platinum Medals on all stages and bosses-||

[vapid kestrel]

Yea they made his lightning look so fucking good I was so salty in 2019 because his lightning in SKC looked barely any better than it did in RtDLWii

[tawdry mulch]

||I will be courteous to Clash for having Aeon be canon but so help me if they do one stupid thing with Clash's world I will be at Hals doorstep||

Kumazaki I've got my eyes on you all two of them

[vapid kestrel]

Congrats

[tawdry mulch]

It's so close to being cool don't mess it up lmaoo

[peak dagger]

Where do you keep the second one, Waddle Doo?

[tawdry mulch]

I've been exposed

[peak dagger]

[burnt slate]

finally found the pic of gk's crescent shot

[tawdry mulch]

Pink xause he pink

Kumazaki I can only pretend like I understand why Ado, Hyness, and the Sisters appear in clash for so long please release that third game this year

[odd rover]

Can’t wait for that Kirby multiverse game

[tawdry mulch]

I'm scared after Bayonetta 3

The multiverse fills me with fear

[vapid kestrel]

Fucking fabulous

[tawdry mulch]

I'm sure they won't lead me astray though Hahahahaha

[burnt slate]

nah, that's just the fear of seeing a french kirby

[odd rover]

The vastness of the infinite multiverse stares into your soul

[leaden terrace]

so pretty

[thin prairie]

kuma is a way better writer than kamiya imo

he can cook

[tawdry mulch]

TRUE

[leaden terrace]

Let's hope Kamiya instantly retcons the multiverse lol!

[tawdry mulch]

I'm liking what I'm seeing so far so hope they actually flesh out clash soon

[odd rover]

Y’know if there’s two Master Crowns created by the branching flow of time would they do the funny D4C thing where they instantly destroy each other if to come into contact

[leaden terrace]

because I'm sure that already happened to like 50% of the franchises

and Bayo seems like the type

[leaden terrace]

maybe

[odd rover]

We’ve never seen actual variants interact with each other so what if this happens

[prisma island]

into the kirbyverse

[odd rover]

Dream Kingdom Kirby and prime Kirby meet and instantly disintegrate

[burnt slate]

i mean, we're getting little cereza's adventure pretty soon & it follows more on the worl of 3 and possibly that faye alt world

[leaden terrace]

fuck the continuity then

[thin prairie]

i wonder how ddd would react to his dededesign variants

[faint glen]

i wish the cereza thing was its own franchise so bad bro

ppl are shitting on it just because its not bayonetta

[odd rover]

What if Landia in the Dream Kingdom is the same one

Just wearing a crown replica

[leaden terrace]

wdym its not bayonetta guys its cereza look 🥺

[faint glen]

bndvfvc

[leaden terrace]

i rly wonder if theyre gonna explain what dream kingdom really looks like

like

i know we go to some random ass places

but by what means even

[faint glen]

Wait dream kingdom?

[leaden terrace]

do they even have warp stars

well dream kingdom clashverse

whatever is easier

[faint glen]

Oh ok

[burnt slate]

they have warp carriages and wagons

[faint glen]

I deadass forgot it was called that lol

[leaden terrace]

This is true

Every time Team Kirby fainted they get cartedb ack

[faint glen]

But theyre still shaped like stars

Theres also like star shaped trebuchets
They shoot u into the background

[odd rover]

Good news I just made sense of the Decisive Battlefield having Magolor’s shop in it

It’s just a recreation

[long breach]

guys

[leaden terrace]

Yeah so that wrecked remains of Magolor's Shop? Yeah I made it look like that was it convincing

also yeah

[faint glen]

||Thinkin abt the fact its very possible the whole reason they thought of all this stuff of making clash canon was just so they could justify him having gem apples in sa fncnc||

[long breach]

hear me out guys galacta knight is aeon hero

reason 1. they both have pink eyes

[leaden terrace]

impossible

[faint glen]

More like adeon hero

[long breach]

reason 2. it’s very hard to hear but you can hear the galacta knight motif in aeon hero’s theme

[leaden terrace]

😭 😭 😭 😭 i cant doubt that

[peak dagger]

||Like, wasn't that one interview that mentioned Clash Magolor being our Magolor from like 2017 or something?||

[odd rover]

||prime Magolor being in the Dream Kingdom was always a thing, the epilogue just popularized it||

[odd rover]

Mhm

[leaden terrace]

also impossible i do not hear it at All

[peak dagger]

So it's more just everyone knows now

[long breach]

turn up your volume

[faint glen]

Oh huh ok

[leaden terrace]

dont hear it either in fact i dont hear anything

i think im deaf

[faint glen]

Damn this song is a banger
*static*

[long breach]

have you tried turning it on and off again

[peak dagger]

In fairness, I don't think anyone outside of Japan knew about that interview until pretty recently anyway. I remember chat being pretty flabbergasted here

[leaden terrace]

let me try

[faint glen]

The game or ur ears?

[leaden terrace]

WOAH

WOAHHH

You're right..

[long breach]

😸

[heady relic]

probably the fastest way to beat Goriath
Balloon Bomb + Mike
https://twitter.com/yosshy0927/status/1635546208763777024

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Twitter · Mar 14, 2023, 7:39 AM

[pliant socket]

LOL

That was awesome

[ocean mauve]

it's what that dumbfuck deserves

Curse goriath

[leaden terrace]

https://twitter.com/Ersta_kirby/status/1634166778011217920

에스타 Ersta (@Ersta_kirby)

마버로아, 나는 ------
Magolor, I ------
#kirby #magolor #カービィ #マホロア

Twitter · Mar 10, 2023, 12:18 PM

Kirby's side of ||Magolor Soul's phase 2 desc||

(If u dont have twitter and cant see the other posts in the thread, dw, theres a link that has the full comic!)

[ocean mauve]

that's so sweet :(

[royal oxide]

https://fxtwitter.com/yee33tea/status/1632885375390875648?s=20

||If you know, you know||

[leaden terrace]

Nguh

Guh

Sniff

||I'm getting PTSD from normal apples too||

[royal oxide]

You should see the first image

[leaden terrace]

I SAW IT... AHHH

[thin prairie]

Can’t believe they made apples from kirby real

[cold pawn]

I can't be the only one thinking that the first level of Cookie Country in Extra Mode tricks into thinking that Extra Mode would have been much more difficult

[pliant socket]

Honestly.

[cold pawn]

Those random pigs caught me off guard, and I thought the rest of Extra Mode had more surprises like that

[pliant socket]

Other than the fact that your health is halved

Its not that hard

Even with half health.

[cold pawn]

Yeah

[ocean mauve]

I was very let down too

why did they ONLY add cool stuff to that level

guess there's also 7-3 with a morbillion phanto enemies (just use spark and charge the barrier)

[pliant socket]

They probably just didn't have the time/budget to include so many changes

[ocean mauve]

sad

[wintry turtle]

Reminds me of undertale hard mode

[ocean mauve]

a shame we never got a full hard mode

[cold pawn]

At least we have modders..they could get us a True Extra Mode

True Extra Mode based on what first level of Cookie Country in Extra Mode does

[ocean mauve]

revenge of dream land (probably idk I never played it)

[cold pawn]

A shame they didn't do Extra Mode in that one

[acoustic crescent]

||wonder if RoDL gonna reference the true arena mago soul of this game if it get finished...||

[cold pawn]

Surely they would reference the remake in some way.

[celest grove]

Magolor Epilogue art || https://twitter.com/nire023/status/1635616160275390464 ||

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Twitter · Mar 14, 2023, 12:17 PM

[acoustic crescent]

egg

[leaden terrace]

i forgive u..

[lime acorn]

The egg wanting to apologize to his fwiends :(

[vocal latch]

I feel like Void Termina's Crown is closer to the artwork than actual model of Magolor phase 1 lol

[leaden terrace]

i mean yeah theres the blotty edges

and the slightly pointy more wider eye

[vocal latch]

Yeah that's the main reason I think

[solar harbor]

I had Mecha when I was in 7-3 if I remember correctly

Found those Hunter Scarfies & Degouts not too stupid

[leaden terrace]

overall tho im p sure magolor's crown is just closer

[solar harbor]

Since y'know, funni long-range shots

[vocal latch]

Wdym closer

Also in this design the funny wings are OUT

Looks epic

[leaden terrace]

TRUE

[leaden terrace]

more accurate i mean, theres the slimmer shape, slimmer talons, uhhh the wings

[vocal latch]

Yea

Well the wings are the same for both model and concept art, no?

[leaden terrace]

it looks like its poking out but yeah essentially the same

or maybe thats just how the lines make it

yeah ok yeah its the same

also you know why didnt they add the texture on magolor phaes 2's model? it has scale-like texture on the rings in the concept art but they didnt rly add it :(

[vocal latch]

Only difference is the wing's 'bones' (what's the word here???)

You see them in concept art

YEAH I'm sad about the scales