[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

[spark lotus]

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[ocean condor]

Baro#8858 - #kirby-kingdom

(https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/ykwj/games/index_h.html)
Go with Meta Knight DX [Meta Knightmare Ultra]
The protagonist is Meta Knight!
After being defeated by Kirby in "Meta Knight Strikes Back" ["Revenge of Meta Knight"],
Meta Knight is going on a journey of training to discipline himself again.
Nevertheless, it will be a wondrous journey, following Kirby's
previous adventures, one by one. What is waiting for Meta Knight
at the end of his journey...

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Quoted by NonaWax#1869 • [352190357880045579] · Dec 7, 2022, 9:37 PM

[neat path]

Hmm, I see

I still think after Squeak Squad makes more sense motivation wise, and with the Halberd, but whatever.

[spark lotus]

even though its a sequel to it you could take that as a game design thing

oh wait I just read it again

[main fractal]

||Hoping that Guest Star Magolor is canon||

||Actual Competent Morpho Vs Magolor is something I need now||

[stray arch]

Is upgrading all of magolor's abilities to max part of 100%

[main fractal]

No

[stray arch]

Oh

Well i'm gonna do it anyways

[main fractal]

Yeah it's fun to do

[stray arch]

What's a good stage for points? Besides the final one.

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||Trickery 6||

Trying to platinum the stages is how I got the max

[spark lotus]

this is the one they've been ||combo farming||

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Bosses specifically

[spark lotus]

bleh it doesn't say in the video what stage that is specifically

[stray arch]

It's the ||extra stage||

[main fractal]

||Get gold or more in everything except Final boss||

[stray arch]

||cuz the final boss doesn't have a medal lol||

[neat path]

||Morpho Knight? Competent? Funny joke you made there ||

[main fractal]

||Star Allies morpho Knight anyway||

[neat path]

||Eh, FL Morpho Knight isn't much better, imo.||

[floral mantle]

Faye's Morpho Knight Mod is the competent one.

[neat path]

Where can I see?

[floral mantle]

Oh, wait, that's not Morpho Knight. That's Sephiropth

[neat path]

Lol

Also, I just found it.

[floral mantle]

https://youtu.be/GCGkznNtrdY

[neat path]

Ye

[floral mantle]

I'm excited for the future of Kirby

[neat path]

Same

[floral mantle]

If we get another 3D game, I hope they add more copy abilities

[neat path]

I'm sure they will. Forgotten Land was definitely the basis for future 3D Kirby games, mechanically speaking.

[floral mantle]

Imagine a 3D beam

[neat path]

Give me

I want 3D BEAM ATTACK

Another totally normal pic of Meta Knight!

[main fractal]

What os unnormal

Oh

He would do that

[neat path]

:3

[stray arch]

DUDE

[neat path]

Noice

[cursive sandal]

magozart or something idk

[vast vapor]

magolor banging out the tunes

[stray arch]

How hard are level 3 cpus in Kirby on the Draw on touch screen?

I'm gonna try it

[neat path]

It’s certainly easier than with button controls, I’ll tell you that much.

[stray arch]

Oh it's wayyy easier

I got 970

[neat path]

Damb

[stray arch]

The cpus get a difficulty increase too, but it's still way easier

I messed up and forgot to reload once tho

So now I gotta do it again to get the other achievement

[neat path]

I don’t know what my record is off the top of my head, but I know I couldn’t get it with button controls, that shit sucks. I literally had to switch to touch controls to get the Extra Mission done.

[stray arch]

New high score is 1010

[neat path]

I never wanna go through some of those missions again, tbh. Tome Trackers extra mission can go fuck itself.

[stray arch]

True

How do you even manage

[neat path]

Luck

[stray arch]

Is there a certain strategy

[neat path]

Hope and pray

[stray arch]

I feel like the cpus know what it is before it appears

[neat path]

And maybe beg too

[stray arch]

Once i had a cpu pick up the tome less than half a second after the thing appeared

[thin forge]

idk

maybe

uhhhhhh

practice

[neat path]

My autistic ass can’t keep track of which tome is where, they were literally bullying the disabled kid in school. /j

[stray arch]

I can't track that many tomes

[thin forge]

id say its a skill issue on yalls parts but thatd be rude

[neat path]

Especially in the last chance part, where they’re all the same color.

[stray arch]

What's worse is that my best is 19

[neat path]

Oof

||You need 20 for the extra mission. 😭😭😭||

[stray arch]

Yeah

Sometimes my dumbass will be standing on the tome only for it to be called and run away from it because I was covering it

And i'd look everywhere but where I was standing

[neat path]

Yeah, I think that’s happened to me once or twice, maybe more.

[maiden swan]

Tragic

[neat path]

True

[peak dagger]

Visual processing is definitely one of those things that some people are naturally better or worse at. Not that you never can make up for it with practice, but some people have to work a lot harder.

Personally, I struggle a ton when there's a lot when there's a lot happening on screen. I do being able to track what's going on. Which makes some bosses in games REALLY tough. But I've, but I have to practice so much more lol

[stray arch]

How strict is the smash hit window for bomb rally

For me, smashing it is tough when it's slow

[neat path]

As strict as the window of me smashing your mom 😎😎😎

[stray arch]

I got the achievement to smash it 7 times but i swear I only did 6

[thin forge]

me seeing the your mom beacon

[junior fiber]

the your mom beacon

[proper spindle]

Do you just have a collection of Jack Horner clips?

[neat path]

Joseph Mother

[junior fiber]

he is jack horner

[stray arch]

I've gotten worse on samurai kirby. My average went from 17 to 20

[proper spindle]

Makes sense

[thin forge]

why yes, yes i do

why

[proper spindle]

Just… thinking of animating Marx to some of Jack Horner’s quotes

[thin forge]

you said that for this one lmao

[proper spindle]

That I did

I just feel a lot of jack’s quotes fit Marx really well

[thin forge]

agreed

magolor in star allies

[proper spindle]

I THOUGHT THAT EXACT THING

[junior fiber]

someone needs to anime this one with marx fr

marx is such a shitbag he's so similar to jack its funny

[thin forge]

could animate this one with haltmann

[proper spindle]

Honestly I feel like that one fits Marx or mag too

Also I’m just gonna steal these for those animations when I get my computer working again so uh

[thin forge]

"what do you think, Lor? do i wait for kirby and his friends to steal the crown and then kill them? or do i just kill everybody all at once?"

[proper spindle]

I feel like that could be Magolor talking to himself in the Lor as the gang approaches landia

[thin forge]

lmao fr

[proper spindle]

Or heck maybe he’s talking to the Lor

[thin forge]

fixed

[vocal latch]

That do be me

[maiden swan]

He’s probably talking to himself and the Lor is like “what is bro on about”

[thin forge]

i headcanon the lor as having GLaDOS' voice

[vapid kestrel]

The lor would say beep boop

Unlike Star Dream

[thin forge]

the key dee walking over the friend bridge:

[proper spindle]

the fact that it looks like four people makes it even better

[thin forge]

it is four people

unless theres eight and we cant see em

[proper spindle]

Yeah there’s eight if I recall

They’re just side by side

[thin forge]

yeah

who would this be for then

[simple dew]

Kirby kicked his ass so hard he lost his powers 💀

[thin forge]

lmao fr

[main fractal]

Trophy room?

Hmm

[proper spindle]

Daroach

[thin forge]

frr

[proper spindle]

Daroach after the gang steals a chest from Kirby

[thin forge]

"we must get this to the trophy room!"
"you know, it took a lot of murdering to get this chest! it all started-"
"TAKE IT TO THE TROPHY ROOM!"

[neat path]

Dark Nebula trophy

[proper spindle]

I feel like dedede would have a trophy room

[main fractal]

The end of the movie is pretty much this one novel

[thin forge]

lmao

[proper spindle]

God which one is that cause I need to read it now

[thin forge]

kirby doing the

[main fractal]

Labyrinth of something rather

[rustic trellis]

That novel goes hard

[main fractal]

Didn't really care for it

[rustic trellis]

||Magolor manipulating Taranza by claiming he knows sectonia, then manipulating Kirby and co. to “help” Taranza and let Magolor steal the Amazing Mirror||

The part that fell odd to me was the random insert of ||Elline and Claycia||

Because idk if they even contributed anything substantial to the climax

[stray arch]

On samurai kirby i can't get less than 19 now

But yesterday i was getting as low as 16

Wth

[main fractal]

There was a new game at the time which needed shoehorning

[rustic trellis]

Mfw i average 14-16 but the first time i did 100 i got a 23 somehow because it was 3 am

[rustic trellis]

It just felt really forced because, first things first, THEY DONT LIVE IN THE MIRROR WORLD

[main fractal]

Lol

I can't even remember what their deal was in the plot

Don't care enough to check it again

[rustic trellis]

I think kirby and co walked into a spat because claycia had an artists block

So they help her out and then are like “lmao ok back to the plot”

[main fractal]

They don't even have Bandana Dee

Awful

[rustic trellis]

This was pre-bandana waddle dee era

[main fractal]

This was post rtdl

So by all means it wasn't

[rustic trellis]

He didnt have the bandana yet bc in the novels at the time he was the only waddle dee

No like

[stray arch]

What games do Pick and Mine appear in? I've never seen them

[main fractal]

And tdx already had him

[rustic trellis]

In the novels he doesnt get his bandana till Battle Royale

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Dream Land 3

[rustic trellis]

Except for a few cases

[austere cape]

i just got to halcandra bro im crying😭😭 why they got magolor living in chicago

[main fractal]

They both appear in one room in the whole game

[rustic trellis]

After Battle Royale he has his bandana in every novel after

[stray arch]

I thought he got his bandana in 64?

[main fractal]

There is no bandana in 64

[rustic trellis]

Im gonna continue this in #kirby-adaptations

[neat path]

I still like to think the 64 Dee is Bandana Dee, it makes sense :3

[main fractal]

Same

[stray arch]

I'm thinking of something else then

[main fractal]

No point having one character who never appears again

[neat path]

Yeah, 64 Dee doesn't have a bandana, but they act pretty similar, and their relationship with Dedede is pretty similar too.

[vapid kestrel]

||Magolor after getting sucked into a portal||

[main fractal]

||He got killed until he died||

[neat path]

||People die when they are killed||

[stray arch]

Also, doesn't he appear in super star in megaton punch?

[main fractal]

Ye

That's his first and only appearance withbthe bandana until ssu

[neat path]

Yep. But he didn't become an established character until SSU.

Then even more so in RTDL.

[stray arch]

So he was just some random ass waddle dee until ssu?

[neat path]

Probably

[stray arch]

I only have 3 more achievements until 100% (not counting the last one)

[neat path]

Noice!

[cursive sandal]

Holy crap I got to the final battle in the true arena first try

[stray arch]

They are: completing hard samurai kirby twice in a row, getting 20 points in time trackers, and completing a tour without failing a minigame

Tome trackers*

[cursive sandal]

Galacta knight screwed me over in terms of health though

Do I use my last souvenir maxim tomato?

[stray arch]

And you use support items and still get 100%

[stray arch]

I would tbh

[solar harbor]

Does Landia even have a guarding attack when riding

[cursive sandal]

I feel like half health isn't low enough to warrant it but I also don't want to go in with half health

[stray arch]

It has a dodge

With A

[solar harbor]

I think it's pressing A

Epic

[stray arch]

But no guard

[cursive sandal]

I'll use an energy drink

[solar harbor]

Because there's a huge enemy spam in the Another Dimension sequence and you can't use Souvenir Items during that part

In Extra Mode at least

[stray arch]

Extra mode for that kinda sucked

[cursive sandal]

||and he immediately starts off the fight with a double death laser. Cool||

[stray arch]

||Final boss took me around 5 attempts||

||on extra||

[cursive sandal]

||oh that's what everybody was talking about with the apple||

[stray arch]

||are you on extra or ME?||

Wait I confused you with someone else

[solar harbor]

I force closed the game after dying to the Lor EX

[stray arch]

Why?

[solar harbor]

Not even the level reloaded after that

[cursive sandal]

||THIS IS INSANE WHAT||
||THE SAND ATTACK AND MECHA ATTACK AND THE MUSIC||

[stray arch]

It's difficult, but if you die on the Lor battle, there's a checkpoint there

[solar harbor]

||GOOD LORD, GOOD LUCK ON THAT||

[solar harbor]

I dunno death breaks immersion sometimes

[cursive sandal]

||I got hit by both tornadoes and 2 of the energy blasts||

It took almost half an hour, an energy drink souvenir item, a maxim tomato souvenir item, and serious tornado iframe abuse, but I beat the true arena first try

Honestly surprised the only time I needed healing after all the provided healing items were gone was at the final battle

[solar harbor]

I should go into it with POCKET SAND

[cursive sandal]

Ok now how do I get the last 5% of completion

[solar harbor]

Time to put ||Pocket Sand in Magolor Soul's one eye||

[cursive sandal]

After I 100% this game I'm gonna finally go back and 100% forgotten land

[solar harbor]

Did you do all Magoland missions

Did you 100% both Story and Extra

[cursive sandal]

Or maybe even before depending on how s u f f e r i n g the last 5% is

[solar harbor]

Did you also complete every stage in Magolor Epilogue including ||Extra Stage||

[cursive sandal]

No, yes, no

Wait i mean yes on the last one

[solar harbor]

Did you do 100/100 missions

[cursive sandal]

No

[solar harbor]

Then snag the opportunity and take your time

[cursive sandal]

I have 28 remaining

||do the extra ones count towards completion?||

[solar harbor]

PLEASE NOTE: There's actually 20 True Extra Missions after you complete the 100 missions, but this is not required for 100%. However it's needed to unlock one of the songs in the Jukebox

[stray arch]

||i'm pretty sure||

[solar harbor]

For clarification 100% doesn't matter if you have a Complete Jukebox or not

[cursive sandal]

I knew about those. I was worried they did count towards completion

Nice to know they don't

[stray arch]

Oh

I'm gonna do them anyway

[solar harbor]

Trust me, the True Extra Missions are hell

Took me almost a day to do them all

[stray arch]

Also how the hell does true arena contribute to 4% of the save file?

[cursive sandal]

Which subgame is the worst to do all missions for

I'm just gonna listen to jukebox music

[stray arch]

Depends

My reaction time depends on how i'm feeling

[faint glen]

Yeah everyone complains about a different one i feel lol

[stray arch]

But tome trackers is just

[faint glen]

worst for me were the k64 one and crackity hack

[stray arch]

Mmh

[cursive sandal]

Kirby on the draw and tome trackers seem like they'll be awful

[solar harbor]

Booming Blasters has a True Extra Mission in Lvl 3 where you have to avoid taking damage

[solar harbor]

Which was absolute hell, I tell you

[solar harbor]

Use touchscreen

[stray arch]

That one wasn't too hard for me

[stray arch]

Tome trackers, yes, but touch screen KotD is easy

[solar harbor]

Also there's a True Extra mission where you have to win Level 3 of Kirby on the Draw without running out of bullets. You can reload even if you still have bullets left over, so that can help.

[cursive sandal]

I probably won't bother with the extra missions

[stray arch]

You can tap kirby to reload

[cursive sandal]

I know

The game explains touch screen controls

[stray arch]

Right

I hate crackity hack, but i've gotten better at it

[solar harbor]

I like Crackity Hack somewhat because it has a rhythm to it

When filling up the bars

[cursive sandal]

I've already grinded the missions for like 4 or 5 subgames

[stray arch]

For me it's the marker that gets me

[solar harbor]

I have to like count to three in order to keep consistent on aiming the cursor marker

[stray arch]

Which is a lot of the power

[cursive sandal]

Is track 16 a hal room track?

[stray arch]

It'll say if it is

[solar harbor]

Pretty sure

What HAL Rooms did you discover

[stray arch]

All hal room location music is unlocked already

[cursive sandal]

The egg engines hal room

[stray arch]

I have all of them and have only been to 2 or 3

[neat path]

Does anyone else feel like mini boss corpses take longer to destroy in this game than they have before?

[cursive sandal]

They take so long to destroy it's so annoying

[stray arch]

Yeah

Especially in ME

Since you can't just eat them, you have to ↗️⬇️↔️↩️🅱️🅱️↗️↔️🅱️

[neat path]

True

[solar harbor]

Well at least defeated midbosses could act as a combo aliver

[stray arch]

I'm gonna count doing the extra missions and fully upgrading magolor as 101%

[simple dew]

God dammit
How much do I need

[stray arch]

Lots

[main fractal]

1500

[simple dew]

I WAS 100 AWAY

[main fractal]

It gets worse

[simple dew]

SOBBING VIOLENTLY WHY

I don't think I want to know

[main fractal]

Time and time again I would get something like 1492 or 1498

This is goriath right?

[simple dew]

Yes

I have a very wrinkly brain idea

[junior fiber]

skill issue

[simple dew]

Spam upward magic sphere and that big blast thing

Ez big combo

[ocean mauve]

if you have surge already that one is so good for combos

[main fractal]

Fiery puffer is the worst

[ocean mauve]

if you upgrade to double then on midbosses you can just go back and forth repeatedly

[neat path]

I mean, you don't need to get all platinums for 100%, you just need golds at least.

[simple dew]

It feels good

[vapid kestrel]

|| https://youtu.be/d9yZTmec3B8 ||
I still can't get over the fact that they nerfed Hammer and then Sand basically plays exactly like Hammer used to

[neat path]

Fair

[simple dew]

Simply just
Leaf

[vapid kestrel]

This is the current world record

[simple dew]

[ocean mauve]

yeah this run is insane

[main fractal]

Raghhh

[ocean mauve]

the jump tornado also goes crazy on flying bosses

just amazing

I do like that almost all of sand's moves are used here

only one I don't recall seeing used against bosses was the regular b attack

nice variety

[vapid kestrel]

Hm I have no idea if they intentionally did any of the things they did in phase 1 whispy ex lol

[ocean mauve]

I never realized running into whispy during the inhale would actually be faster than dodging it lol

[pliant socket]

This fucking sucks

[vapid kestrel]

Yea his inhale takes forever

[pliant socket]

They nerf hammer and then sand just

Comes in

Acts like old hammer

[vapid kestrel]

And he has armor during inhale

[pliant socket]

and fucking replaces it

I hate SA and its hammer charge fr ‼️

[ocean mauve]

I almost feel like hammer wasn't intentionally nerfed but they're just so insistent on keeping the smash 4 charge. though they did intentionally nerf other abilities

[pliant socket]

They better change it in the tdx remake or it's MID

[vapid kestrel]

I mean they could've made the charge as good as old hammer flip and then charge to even more powerful

[pliant socket]

LITERALLY

[ocean mauve]

If only...

[pliant socket]

Best ending

[ocean mauve]

at least dedede is busted

used to be considered meta before this new run came out

so hammer is Sorta good! lol

[vapid kestrel]

RIP DDD

Oh how RNG is ||Rampaging Doomers||

Maybe I just don't understand the ability enough but it kinda looks like he planned for the boss to do something completely different than it did

[ocean mauve]

hmm I'm honestly not sure

might have to ask falco

would make sense for that boss to be the worst bc it does suck lmao

[spark lotus]

finally, I've been waiting for a good sand run with how busted everyone says it is

[fathom cradle]

Wdym

Everything seemed planned to me

[spark lotus]

which boss you guys talking about

[fathom cradle]

Also ||rampaging doomers|| isn't rng from what I understand, that sequence of attacks looked like what I always see

[spark lotus]

I havent completed the video yet but ||rampaging doomer generally does the same thing every time||

[vapid kestrel]

Ah ok, I was just probably misunderstanding why a move was used then

[spark lotus]

but yeah that's one of the things I love about these types of runs, so far the good ones aren't just spamming the same move for literally every boss

I did see a Dedede run where ||they basically only did that Dedede bounce move I don't know the name of||

[ocean mauve]

don't recall what they did in that part but sometimes they'll take damage intentionally just to use sand tornado if that's what you're seeing

[ocean mauve]

think it's super dedede jump or something

[spark lotus]

sounds about right

[ocean mauve]

it's very good and spammable yeah lol

[vapid kestrel]

Anyway man
after SA I really missed arenas where bosses really only do like one or two attacks before moving onto the next phase lol
Glad that's a thing again in FL and RtDL Dx

Wtf was that star grab optimal

[ocean mauve]

star grab does such shit damage im surprised it's used

[simple dew]

Sorry about my breakdown before
I just had to simply get better

[vapid kestrel]

Yea I don't understand what its purpose is

[pliant socket]

Right on the dot, gg

[spark lotus]

ok jumping in whispy's mouth to save time has been a thing since the original but yeah it definitely doesn't look intentional here

they did that hi-jump sand attack into it somehow

(they also accidentally attack to the left instead of the right once - it looks like they were making room to dash into the Whispy and pressed 1 before they actually started heading right again)

[simple dew]

👍
Surge, Bombs, Upper Spheres, and Really Big Blast Thing

[spark lotus]

well, whatever the attack button is on switch

[vapid kestrel]

Yea that's probably what I was thinking of

[peak dagger]

Default is B but you can swap it to Y

[simple dew]

I find Y to attack and B to jump so much easier to use

[spark lotus]

i mean it might still be intentional and if it is that's huge brain

because if whispy has armor during the attack and the move they used lingers after Kirby stops, which it does..

[ocean mauve]

saame

just feels natural

[spark lotus]

they also seem to use star grab to destroy miniboss corpses

[simple dew]

Exactly
I don't know if it's because of Super Star, or that usually the attack button is Y in other games I play
But if there's an option to switch the buttons to that, I'm doing it immediately

[ocean mauve]

real

[simple dew]

Oh I also never use A/Y to drop abilities
It feels too weird

[peak dagger]

I honestly can't do it. My brain can't handle B/Y controls lol Too much early Kirby in my system

[simple dew]

I'm guessing you hated playing SS/SSU then

[peak dagger]

When I play Super Star on the switch, I remap my switch 😅

I think Ultra had A/B though. I don't remember fighting with it

[simple dew]

Honestly I don't actually remember, I'm just assuming

[ocean mauve]

I stopped pressing select to discard in RtDLdx because the joycon's - button is weird. forgot to swap back when I started using pro controller

[simple dew]

I would be way too lazy to do that and just deal with the Y/B buttons

[vapid kestrel]

Well the actual grab attack looks quick for that but I’m wondering why they ||grabbed a drop star to throw at magolor soul twice||

[ocean mauve]

tho I hate that you gotta hold to discard from SA. why did they bring that back

select skips this but I didn't wanna reach for that lmao

[simple dew]

I always use -, it may be a little uncomfortable sometimes but it's faster and feels more natural

[vapid kestrel]

I will forever miss instant dropping abilities with X

[peak dagger]

It's too easy to hit Y/A by accident, I think.

[ocean mauve]

I knew I was reaching for that button for a reason

[vapid kestrel]

The thing that drives me the most crazy is being used to - to instant drop in FL but in town that opens up the Figure collection instead

[peak dagger]

Yeah that's maddening

[simple dew]

Instead of getting rid of a crown made of burning fire that could be a potential hazard, Kirby decides to play with his toys

[peak dagger]

That sounds in character

[spark lotus]

that is weird..

[simple dew]

Extra protection

[neat path]

Can never be too careful :3

[simple dew]

Spy:

[rustic trellis]

Something tells me that there is an impostor among us

[neat path]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-spy-spy-tf2-tf2spy-gif-19741465

[simple dew]

Oh...
Oh god...

[neat path]

What?

[simple dew]

There are multiple things wrong with this

[neat path]

Wdym? It's just Spy petting his cat :)

[cursive sandal]

Floppa

[ocean mauve]

floppa is my hero

[neat path]

I love Big Flopper

Him and his floppy ears are so cool :3

[pliant socket]

floppa

[neat path]

Whoa

[jagged dirge]

Is one of the hidden Magoland missions to get 30 on egg toss hard?

Or would 29 suffice?

I missed literally the very last egg

[neat path]

28

[simple dew]

I think it's 30
Not sure I got 30 on complete accident so

[jagged dirge]

Ok I'm good then

I hope its 28 for my sake

[neat path]

You'll know for sure once you finish the main 100 missions.

[jagged dirge]

True

[neat path]

Have you gotten there yet?

[jagged dirge]

I'm at 70/100

[simple dew]

I already did all 120
Honestly kinda easy, only challenging one was samurai 100

[neat path]

Ah, gotcha

[simple dew]

(There's this very funny thing called multiplayer)

[pliant socket]

if you did it in multiplayer....then you didn't do it

you will never know true pain.

[simple dew]

I still failed even with multiplayer so...

[pliant socket]

it doesn't really matter lmao

[simple dew]

I lied about it being easy
I suck

[neat path]

The three hardest missions for me were ||20 points on Tome Tracker, win without falling on Checkerboard Chase normal speed, and win without taking any damage on Booming Blasters.||

[simple dew]

Although I did get all 30 on egg catcher 3 on accident, that I didn't lie about
Adventure trained me for that moment

[neat path]

I did that too, lol. Before I finished the main 100 missions even.

[simple dew]

I don't understand how normal speed is harder than fast speed

[simple dew]

Same lmao

[neat path]

I don't know either, lol. Fast speed wasn't easy for me either, but it was definitely more fun!

[simple dew]

I think it may be because it was fast in 64 too

I don't fully remember though

[neat path]

I've never played it in 64, so I wouldn't know.

[simple dew]

I'm too lazy to go check so I guess we'll never know
At least not for the rest of tonight

[neat path]

Fair, fair

[burnt slate]

||https://vxtwitter.com/Mecha_nove/status/1634758517705019392?s=19 || wacky misleading hitbox no one will ever get hit by unintentionally

Also it kinda sux how maxed out mag makes for a worse free-form combo char thanks to the hit limit the game has on enemies

Stuff like the triple bombs instantly poofing an enemy away if you're too close since you can only inflict heavy knockback twice

Or surge just dealing too many hits for you do follow up with anything at times

[coarse flower]

uh
i didnt use bombs in boss fights (also rank does NOT matter on ||either form of master crown||

[burnt slate]

Talking about regular enemies

[coarse flower]

didnt use bombs much except to hit enemies below

[solar harbor]

MY SWITCH DIED AS SOON AS I GOT TO MAGOLOR EX'S FINAL PHASE LMAO

[solar harbor]

I'm trying to charge it in the car rn

[burnt slate]

The maxxed out big bomb is kinda bad for follow ups as well since it just hits too many times

[marsh patrol]

Oof

[coarse flower]

you mean ||magolor soul||

[solar harbor]

Nah Magolor EX is different

I'm on Extra Mode

Fun fact btw, Sand is OP as fuck

[coarse flower]

oh so EX's ||super ability shield||

[solar harbor]

Yeah

IT'S EASY BUT

My Switch's still dead

[coarse flower]

damn

[thin prairie]

Sand and leaf is like suplex compared to wrestler

Its basically a replacement

[coarse flower]

why is ||hydriath's gold rank so hard compared to the others? Even Rampaging Doomers's Gold was easier||

[solar harbor]

Wait what

I had an easy time on ||Hydriath's Gold Rank||

Man I sure do love Magolor Surge

[coarse flower]

wait HOW does that help? ||Hydriath is on or at the walls, where you cant get him w/o getting hit||

[solar harbor]

You can aim Magolor Surge upwards too

Just do Magolor Surge first then hold Up before doing another surge

If you do have chained surges unlocked

[cursive sandal]

Magolor surge my beloved

[solar harbor]

Magolor Surge made me platinum ||Rampaging Doomers|| first try too

Which is insane as hell

[cursive sandal]

Surge and cannon obliterate ||doomers||

Me when typing on mobile

[thin prairie]

The dormers definitely feel like they were designed for Magolor first and Kirby later
try beating them without a projectile or an ability with a lot of I frames

[solar harbor]

MY SWITCH'S UP, I just need to charge it to a higher percentage

[thin prairie]

Nice

[solar harbor]

I HIT MAGOLOR EX TWICE WITH SNOW BOWL

LMAOOOO

I thought he'd discard my ability after the first hit but nah he just gave me a free Fortnite Battle Pass

[thin forge]

i thought that was always a thing

[solar harbor]

Gonna charge my Switch again tho

[neat path]

He always discards it after two hits on the shield.

[solar harbor]

What the heck lol

I kinda forgot about it

Thought he'd do it after one hit

[neat path]

He does that on the main mode fight, and EX mode just has the two super abilities he didn't give in main mode, and of course Sword.

[cursive sandal]

He always dispels after 2 hits

[solar harbor]

Ah

Alright

[stray arch]

Just 100% the game. Gonna go for 101% (It doesn't exist but i'm gonna believe it does)

By that I mean fully upgrading magolor and beating all 20 extra missions

[thin forge]

youll be fine

[stray arch]

What ability did you guys use for the true arena?

I used mecha and spammed a quick charged beam

[wise roost]

Can anything break through sand’s guard

[thin forge]

black hole

thats literally it

[wise roost]

thx

[thin forge]

technically goriath's stage transition thing

[stray arch]

I never liked using abilities where you could just sit there doing nothing for the whole fight

[thin forge]

why

[peak dagger]

Different strokes for different folks

I like those kinds of abilities. But they're not everyone's thing

And that's cool

[burnt slate]

https://youtu.be/62adshvqJIs

[ocean mauve]

goriath ex's supernova attack (update this was a lie I'm sorry)

[thin forge]

nope

[faint glen]

God
And here i thought it wasnt possible on this level

[ocean mauve]

just make sure you run to the side when he pulls it out

[vapid kestrel]

Wait really?

[ocean mauve]

yea

[thin forge]

no lol

[vapid kestrel]

Also it's clearly a Spirit Bomb smh smh

[thin forge]

that aint even true

[ocean mauve]

I'll test it

[thin forge]

ive guarded through it several times

with sand

[vapid kestrel]

Yea personally I can't imagine why it would break leaf guard

Or well in this case sand

[neat path]

God damn, Sand is OP

[ocean mauve]

I vividly remember this so I gotta test

[faint glen]

Sand is just more op, less fun peak hammer 💀

[vapid kestrel]

Wait actually I forget, grab hitboxes don't work on Leaf and Sand guard right

[ocean mauve]

they don't

[vapid kestrel]

momento

[faint glen]

Wasnt the dash air hammer attack nerfed too

I swore it was faster in tdx/robobot

And did more damage

[burnt slate]

that's just how it was in rtdl

[ocean mauve]

ok nvm apparently I was just a dumbass

must have let go of r during it lmao

[neat path]

I imagine they'll probably nerf Sand if it returns in any future Kirby games, lol.

[vapid kestrel]

I dunno if they particularly care about nerfing things for being too strong tbh

[ocean mauve]

on a funnier note though look at the sand guard (can't remember if wmex or falco told me this)

[neat path]

They did that with Hammer, lol.

[vapid kestrel]

Hammer dominated the series for ten years if not more lol

[neat path]

Ok, fair

[burnt slate]

blame smash for that

[rustic trellis]

And then they felt bad about nerfing hammer and gave us rtdx dedede

[simple dew]

Now hold on a god damn second here...

[vapid kestrel]

Was it Smash 4 that introduced the charging hammer or was it ult

[burnt slate]

4

[ocean mauve]

it's funny how the chargable hammer flip is worse than regular hammer flip in both smash and the main series

[faint glen]

It started in kirby in sa tho

[ocean mauve]

just a conceptual nerf

[neat path]

Soos Amoogoos

[faint glen]

Ah

[vapid kestrel]

Ackshually

It started in Planet Robobot with Hammer Lord

[ocean mauve]

ok but kirby clash is stupid and bad so um ratio

[rustic trellis]

Once again we can blame everything on clash

[burnt slate]

and the smash ability

[faint glen]

Well thats not a nerf outside the fact that kirby clash is a nerf of a game

[vapid kestrel]

Oh right Smash Hammer got the charge in PR right

[rustic trellis]

I dont know if smash ability had chargable hammer actually

[burnt slate]

ya

[rustic trellis]

It mightve kept its AM moveset, havent played PRB in a hot second

[ocean mauve]

smash ability in prb had it yea

[burnt slate]

dream collections had an uncharged ver that worked a bit like AM but way less cooler

[rustic trellis]

oh

[burnt slate]

robobot added a charge for hammer and the forward smash dash attack

[vapid kestrel]

IT WAS ALWAYS SO FUNNY TO ME HOW BAD THE HAMMER ATTACK LOOKED IN DC

[rustic trellis]

Clash gets to not be the scapegoat ig, blame smash

[ocean mauve]

am hammer flip is so nutty. faster than a regular hammer flip and it deals damage even when in its "preparing" animation

[vapid kestrel]

It was just the hammer flip swing animation but with like
No visual effects whatsoever

And also only the swing part and not the charge animation so it just looked so weird

[rustic trellis]

i mean tbf TDX+ hammer flip also deals damage in the prep

dunno if rtdl also does that but i think it does

[ocean mauve]

true but am smash hammer is FASTER and AWESOMER

and the damage i think is on par with the flip itself. they just didn't balance it. which im glad!

[rustic trellis]

I wonder what the damage to time ratios are comparing AM hammer flip and TDX hammer flip

[stray arch]

Goriath is just a huge dbz fan

[rustic trellis]

sure, AM takes shorter, but thats also less damage done in the prep time

[ocean mauve]

i think am's aerial hammer is optimal over grounded

since it does as much damage but is way faster to spam

[rustic trellis]

Probably, i remember shredding hands with that

[ocean mauve]

weirdly enough in am i find DMK easier to fight with stone than smash

[burnt slate]

it is since the attack ends as soon as you're grounded, so you can easily do another short hop aerial

[ocean mauve]

ah makes sense

[burnt slate]

also it's in a game where bosses have tiny hp

[ocean mauve]

stone just shredding gobbler moment

one shots if you get the right attack pattern mfw

[burnt slate]

and no boss i-frames when getting hit unlike TDX

[ocean mauve]

ahh that explains a lot

[rustic trellis]

it also helps that mega titan cant hide in the background for two years

[ocean mauve]

mega titan when it sees wheel kirby in the vicinity

[burnt slate]

robobot is more of an apt comparison since it removed it & hammer there did basically the same thing

[ocean mauve]

i hope one day they go back on adding charge flip

i don't think i've met someone that prefers it lol

[burnt slate]

https://youtu.be/02N5Y_tnf0I?t=504

[ocean mauve]

though of course i only talk to elite kirbsters.... perhaps the Common Folk prefer it!

is hammer the best in prb time-wise?

[rustic trellis]

The people who complain "OMG HAMMER IS TOO BROKEN" while ignoring Stone, Archer, Tornado, Sand, etc.

[vapid kestrel]

Yea hammer is the fastest in pr

[ocean mauve]

hammer's a fun kind of broken because its i-frames aren't braindead like the others

[pliant socket]

Tell me you haven't watched dragon ball without saying you haven't watched dragon ball

[ocean mauve]

you gotta know when to use the i-frames at least lol

[rustic trellis]

You actually have to learn the bosses patterns with hammer

[faint glen]

yeah hammer just feels like playing a high tier in a game

[vapid kestrel]

Second fastest is ice b/c it can do the same thing basically iirc

[ocean mauve]

I don't watch CRINGE tv shows. I o nly watch based steven universe and spongebob (this is a joke I'm so sorry)

[rustic trellis]

unlike stone where you sit there and then hope the boss doesnt pull a black hole

[faint glen]

i always liked it in tdx and robobot because you have to pay attention but you can wreck house without too much setup or anything like some stuff in sa

[pliant socket]

Its fine lmao

[ocean mauve]

is super ice sprinkle or regular ice sprinkle better

[vapid kestrel]

regularr

[ocean mauve]

ahh odd

[vapid kestrel]

same for hammer's aerial

[ocean mauve]

i'm assuming bc i-frames

[rustic trellis]

rare ice W

[ocean mauve]

certain rapid hitting moves should have fewer/no i-frames

just feels silly!

[pliant socket]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1077968255232254092/1082469770303115395/ezgif-4-f1324db9ae.gif

[vapid kestrel]

SSU were really
The Days when it came to that

[ocean mauve]

also I think I figured out what happened here

my r button is just dogshit

[vapid kestrel]

Ultra Hammer Swing just did half as much damage to bosses as regular Hammer Swing because they both can only hit a boss once

[ocean mauve]

that's so silly

[faint glen]

lmao

[pliant socket]

Its ok at least your switch isn't breaking!!! Teehee

[ocean mauve]

Teeheehee

[faint glen]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-kirby-kirby-meme-gif-24950913

[ocean mauve]

had 3 other buttons i could have been pressing instead to do the same thing so skill issue on my part

[solar harbor]

POCKET SAND!

[vapid kestrel]

You know what infuriates me most when it comes to 'boss rush too hard'?
People using a team of Kawasakis or Adeleines in SM/SMEX

[rustic trellis]

mewotactic actually forgor that the attack randomly shoots up and stop guarding

and doesnt want to admit it

[solar harbor]

I like putting sand in EX Mode Magolor Soul's eyes

[pliant socket]

I'm still mad about the hammer nerf....can't wait for them to buff it!!!! (Copium)

[rustic trellis]

I wand a hammer flip reversion but besides that i want hammer to stay exactly where it is

[burnt slate]

just play dedede instead since he's now a better hammer

[ocean mauve]

i hope they release a patch that makes charged hammer flip do 5x as much

[vapid kestrel]

I mean they did kinda address it for FL

[rustic trellis]

otherwise it becomes too broken

[pliant socket]

At least you could UPGRADE it there

and then it became the best weapon in the game (toy hammer) haahhaa

[ocean mauve]

true but he doesn't even feel like hammer since his best move is

[vapid kestrel]

I mean that's irrelevant to why Hammer is good in FL you can upgrade everything

[ocean mauve]

toy hammer isn't better than forgo hammer is it

forgo hammer does way too much

[rustic trellis]

Forgo take too long

[vapid kestrel]

At +⭐ Toy Hammer is better

[rustic trellis]

we need our single hit style

[ocean mauve]

BUT THE CHARGE!

ah damn

[pliant socket]

Toy hammer solos unfortunately

[ocean mauve]

what's the "meta". counter attacking with charges? or what

[vapid kestrel]

Upgrades aren't more powerful at +⭐

[rustic trellis]

Toy hammer is peak, sorry dedede fans

[ocean mauve]

ohhh ok

[vapid kestrel]

In fact some are weaker I think

[pliant socket]

IM NOT GONNA SUGARCOAT IT
R + Control Stick + B

[vapid kestrel]

I don't remember enough to give an example but like I'm pretty sure some of the abilities' base forms have higher damage values than their evolved forms at +⭐

[rustic trellis]

ice players literally shaking and crying rn

[burnt slate]

for some bosses yea, but it's mostly charge during the intro animation and do it again bc now they're at half health

[ocean mauve]

sheesh

[burnt slate]

sometimes you can even skip the phase by dealing a bit of damage and then do a dodge hammer flip

[vapid kestrel]

But yea I feel like they very purposefully wanted hammer to be OP again for FL

[burnt slate]

i.e. 🦍

[ocean mauve]

the one game where charge flip is good...

[rustic trellis]

Minibosses when they get vaporized instantaneously

[vapid kestrel]

Every other ability with a charge attack doesn't get the benefit Hammer does when it gets a perfect dodge or whatever it's officially called

[ocean mauve]

at least ranger gets the pew pew pew attack

that one is fun

[vapid kestrel]

Sword just gets the third swing of its neutral combo, Ranger gets like
A special attack? I forget, does any other move on it normally shoot like that or is it specific to the dodge counter thing

[pliant socket]

I need my cracked charge flip back...please bring it back for tdx and pr please please please please ple-

[ocean mauve]

i think it's dodge specific

[vapid kestrel]

But Hammer they were like 'yea just give them immediate level 2 charge' like wtf

[ocean mauve]

imagine if sword got immediate level 2 tornado

[burnt slate]

morpho sword would've gotten higher times if it did

[ocean mauve]

true...

is morpho sword meta or is it toy hammer

[burnt slate]

since the big challenge for that is the long charge time for big sword mode

toy

[rustic trellis]

Toy Hammer iirc

[pliant socket]

Toy Hammer is meta

[vapid kestrel]

Well no one of the Drills is meta

[rustic trellis]

Morpho is good damage and also a good crutch for those who arent good at the game

but hammer is better

[pliant socket]

OHhhhhh

[junior mesa]

weren't there twin drill strats that someone did that were like
faster than toy?

[pliant socket]

Was it twin drill

Ah ok

[vapid kestrel]

Yea twin drill b/c it draws the fastest

[rustic trellis]

You see but you have to consider that im choosing to believe drills doesnt exist

[ocean mauve]

is the damage dependent on the size of the circle

[vapid kestrel]

Yea

[junior mesa]

twin drill looks interesting but I'd never want to use it

[ocean mauve]

how big do you wanna go

[rustic trellis]

I imagine minibosses you prolly wanna go big for an instakill

[vapid kestrel]

So like the game of speedrunning FL fights is finding the quickest shape to get three full quakes basically

[ocean mauve]

figure eight but with an extra head

idk

[pliant socket]

Ermmm boooring 💤

[ocean mauve]

i gotta see a vide of this because im having trouble visualizing the strat

[rustic trellis]

you telling me to speedrun fl we need to have passed geometry?

fuck

[junior mesa]

must be a headache if your shapes are so tight that one slip-up gives you a lesser lvl quake and then you gotta run reset

[burnt slate]

I think it was also about drawing ovals since you can do 2 quakes of damage on a single loop

[vapid kestrel]

https://youtu.be/934Aq7dbEng

[pliant socket]

holy shit??????

[vapid kestrel]

Don't they draw like

[vapid kestrel]

Speech bubble shapes?

Or maybe that's for speedrunning the actual game and not arena

Since they can't spend the time to upgrade to twin drill

[junior mesa]

that clawroline fight tho

wtf

literally almost one-shots

[solar harbor]

X72 Overclocked

[vapid kestrel]

Jesus christ watching clawroline fall down at like 5 frames per second is painful after getting used to 60fps again with RtDL Dx

[junior mesa]

60 to 30 is always really weird at first but

you kinda adjust to it over time

& then it feels fine

[ocean mauve]

ok jesus

so he just make a big loopy

[burnt slate]

ya, two quakes in one attack

[pliant socket]

Literally cracked

[junior mesa]

the Leon fight there is interesting too
forgot how much cool Arena potential there is in 3D compared to 2D

[pliant socket]

and here I thought that toy hammer couldn't be beat

So sad

[junior mesa]

it just feels so like
strategic
and its satisfying to watch in kirby of all games

[vapid kestrel]

Wait actually

Is Twin Drill only faster than Toy Hammer with the speed boost item

[burnt slate]

think so

[ocean mauve]

speed boost affects the drilling speed? that's odd

[burnt slate]

i remember a convo that drill needs that speed boost to make a circle with the best amount of hits

[peak dagger]

Yeah, speed boost definitely helps with drill

[vapid kestrel]

https://youtu.be/Xc_dudER3hU
https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm40364632
Twin Drill with buffs is 2:36.04 and Toy Hammer with buffs is 2:37.05
The actual world record is https://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm40424115 2:23.12 by using Crash to kill the first fight and then getting Toy Hammer (and also using a second controller to spawn Bandee sometimes)

[solar harbor]

What the fuck lmao

[burnt slate]

o yeah, i remember that

they basically had to avoid getting any of the blueprints except for toy to have a better rng chance of getting crash when needed

and then spawning b.dee to deal the finishing blow

[thin prairie]

Bruh why does twin drill do so much damage lol

[vapid kestrel]

Oh right lmao
Funny RNG copy essences when you can affect how many abilities there are in them by not evolving RIP

[vapid kestrel]

Twin Drill can only do so much with like
Complete knowledge of boss patterns to know when and where to set up your quakes

Drill is still garbage to play with casually

[rustic trellis]

If you dont have a Ph.D in the drill, pick hammer

Moral of the story

[ocean mauve]

toy hammer ALSO lets you ascend into the sky. coincidence?

I Think Not

[rustic trellis]

funny hammer jump

so glad they never patched that

[ocean mauve]

same

yknow im in a kind of vertical level right now. let's see what happens

[odd rover]

(True Arena) Ok so ||I got to Magolor Soul EX’s final phase and died|| I currently have 22 energy drinks, 11 maxim tomatoes, and 10 amiibos. I think I can win tomorrow

One of those amiibos is a Kirby amiibo

[ocean mauve]

skipped to the top floor of the place go figure

oops wrong chat

[odd rover]

I just remembered that you can only use 7 amiibos

[vapid kestrel]

My man are you landing a single attack every 3 healing items

[odd rover]

I grinded items like 3 times

[vapid kestrel]

Bro niconico locks even 480p behind premium????

[rustic trellis]

wha

ew

[odd rover]

As you can see I have a skill issue

[rustic trellis]

if you want more than 2 pixels on the screen better pay up

[burnt slate]

ya, same for speeding and slowing down a vid

which is why nicovid is dying

[rustic trellis]

ah yes netflix syndrome

"people aren't buying our product so lets make it even more enticing by removing things people should have access too unless they pay us"

when they "accidentally" got rid of account sharing

[vapid kestrel]

Oh my god I forgot they do that funny thing where they go out of bounds using the hammer jump glitch and die to make Phantom Meta Knight weaker

[rustic trellis]

PMK when he sees a pink ball falling out of the sky in the distance

[burnt slate]

it's actually just so they dont have to go through the intro scene so they can reach full charge faster

[vapid kestrel]

Oh right UCZ bosses don't get weaker on death

Only MK Cup? Or does normal UC also get weaker

Or do none of them lol

[burnt slate]

dont think any of them gets weaker

[vapid kestrel]

Huh, weird, I swear I remember hearing about MK Cup having something regarding dying repeatedly to make the bosses weakerr

Anyway why do they pause buffer the last hammer flip on Morpho huh

[burnt slate]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

prob to make it easier to predict where morpho will go

[vapid kestrel]

Damn the wr really uses Crash 4 fucking times lmao

That's literally a third of the fucking boss rush there's only 12 bosses 😭

[junior mesa]

sounds possible if the game carries that lower boss hp value over until the next successful cup attempt...?
since kirby games typically do that w/ normal bosses at least

if that's the case wr could prolly grind deaths before the actual attempt maybe(?)

[solar harbor]

Fuck no, Galacta's on me now

Better prepare my POCKET SAND!

THIS MF'er

||Oh no, Master Crown... How tf do I fight this guy as Kirby||

||Wish me luck...||

POCKET SAND! (not)

JESUS FUCK THE ||SANDSTORM TWISTERS||

THE ||DOUBLE BLACK HOLE THREW ME OFF||

||JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WHAT EVEN IS HIS MECHA LASER ATTACK||

[cursive sandal]

||mf is really like "hey you know my attacks that do a frick load of damage? Yeah what if I did 2||

[solar harbor]

||You can't even dodge the Black hole attack with the Sand Guard. WHAT EVEN ARE YOU FUCKING TRYING TO DO?||

[cursive sandal]

||nothing can defend against the black hole except running||

[solar harbor]

||Magolor sounds like he's writhing in pain oh god||

[cursive sandal]

||this applies to the black hole in the main story as well||

[solar harbor]

||YOU'RE GOING TO FUCKING BRAZIL||

POCKET SAAAAAAAAAAAAND!

CLEAR (with items)

[vapid kestrel]

Magolor and Chaos Elfilis's black hole ignoring abilities is based
Cringe Marx black hole when it didn't ignore Stone

Also cringe Void itadakimasu in general

Lame ass black hole attack

[junior mesa]

||I highkey wish that the new soul wouldn't have been so scripted
huge part of its difficulty is just "oh hey you're used to this attack, but look, I'll do it differently to throw you off!!!!" but
it just does the same moves every time in the same order
I get it, but I also think that just trying to juke the players used to the normal moveset and then not being much beyond that feels a tad disappointing||

[rustic trellis]

wait did void have a black hole attack

[vapid kestrel]

||I mean it's not like Magolor Soul was ever that random||

[rustic trellis]

ive literally done smex so many times and cant remember

[vapid kestrel]

Void had itadakimasu

Well literal Void doesn't have it

Only story mode Void Termina and Void Soul has it

[rustic trellis]

oh

makes sense why i forgor then

since i typically do smex

[solar harbor]

I noticed Souvenir Bomb doesn't hurt you now tbh

[vapid kestrel]

He spawns three Mini Cores (What are they officially called again) that spin around him with a black hole effect

If they suck you in they just chew on you

It's super lame

[rustic trellis]

I think ive either always killed him before he did that or just simply didnt notice

[vapid kestrel]

And also even if you regularly fought story mode Void Termina or Void Soul you probably wouldn't know about this attack because the cores like

Die in one hit

[rustic trellis]

SqSq dedede summoning help moment

[solar harbor]

Also you drop your mask if you lose

[vapid kestrel]

So like you probably kill the cores the literal frame they spawn lol

[burnt slate]

im just happy black holes have been threatening as of late

[junior mesa]

||sure, but with the way new soul is mostly just trying to juke you it gets old fast, at least for me||

[rustic trellis]

Chad magolor and elfilis black hole vs virgin star dream soul os heart critical error

One of these is a fair attack that you cant guard

and the other isnt

[junior mesa]

||it's cool the first time you see it and then you realize there isn't much substance beyond tricking players that knew the og pattern||

[solar harbor]

They're kinda annoying as fuck since I don't like hearing Kirby's scream whenever he gets trapped in one

It's like he's being put through a torture device

[burnt slate]

messed up when ex whispy has a more dangerous vacuum attack compared with most other black holes

[rustic trellis]

Whispy literally being #3 when it comes to black hole

and he doesnt have a black hole

[vapid kestrel]

It's always funny to me when you don't have to run and can walk away from a suction/black hole attack

[junior mesa]

strollin' along

[novel fog]

idk if there is an official name outside files for Mini Cores

[rustic trellis]

i remember one time in inhaled a friend and spat them at the black hole and just kept running after

thank god for shaking charging super inhale

[novel fog]

and I think it is two mini cores for normal Void Termina

[vocal latch]

lmao imagine their official names being "Mini Nil/Void" or "Mini Ende/Termina"

[vapid kestrel]

Huh is it really? I thought he just did it slower

[novel fog]

I mean, I'd assume they'd have Mini in the name, would connect to Zero (with his Mini Dark Matters) lol

[vapid kestrel]

Well the second and fourth forms are officially called cores

Second Core and Final Core

[novel fog]

I meant the Mini Cores

[vapid kestrel]

I mean

First Core lol

First Core and Final Core

Final Core is such a funny name since there's only two cores

[solar harbor]

Hey btw what are the medal thresholds for ||Extra Stage|| (Magolor Epilogue)

[vapid kestrel]

Funny artbook when the designer mentioned you were originally going to make multiple round trips in and out of Void

[novel fog]

||Silver is 3500, Gold is 4000, Platinum is 4500 iirc||

[burnt slate]

just get a 400 combo score

[solar harbor]

Also if I game over on a stage in Magolor Epilogue do I keep the points

I just wanted to make sure even if I die on the stage I can still get a Platinum

Or Gold if anyone wants

[burnt slate]

i assume it resets your score back to the checkpoint, so the start of a new area

[solar harbor]

Hmmm

I'd have to hypothetically test this but I can't since I'm in midway of the stage ||where the CROWNED song from Drum Dash Deluxe starts playing||

[vapid kestrel]

Actually if you game over in epilogue your save gets deleted and I will visit your house

[solar harbor]

Alright, IRyS watchalong when

[vapid kestrel]

When are we getting a nephilim in Kirby

[solar harbor]

Knowing Kumazaki, he will do it one day

And people would meme IRyS about it

[vapid kestrel]

Honestly I don’t even remember where I first learned this word I feel like I used to know some other fictional character that was based on a nephilim

[solar harbor]

wait, 02 is already one

[solar harbor]

I probably heard more about the word when Ironmouse brought up IRyS on stream lol

After seeing her in a My Story Animated video lmao

(That was also how I found her)

OH YEAH if I die on the stage it lets me keep my points

Awesomesauce

[burnt slate]

dante from the h||ated||it game DMC: devil may cry

[solar harbor]

IT'S FUCKING EPIC YO

||Microtransagolor Real||

[vocal latch]

||I like to think the portal he entered at the end led him to Extra Stage which led him to Clash world||

[solar harbor]

READY TO GO

[royal oxide]

https://fxtwitter.com/Peachy_Spider/status/1634776678139408385?s=20

[solar harbor]

I AM NOW TRULY A KIRBY MASTER

[royal oxide]

Congrats!

[solar harbor]

Thanks

I still feel kind of awful because I got traumatized by Kirby sounding like he got fucking tortured to death in the black hole attack tbh

Idk it's just me overstressing over seeing me take lots of damage in one go

But that one's a literal fucking anxiety trigger at this point

Not the first time it happened honestly (Chaos Elfilis says hi)

[heady relic]

Fighter True Arena 12:57
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgtTLFpsukU||

[craggy sable]

Excuse me what?!

[ocean mauve]

fighter the GOAT!!!

[solar harbor]

sigh I just feel uneasy because True Arena infuriates me in many ways

Losing abilities, black hole attack, me being not accustomed to fucking ||Magolor Soul in True Arena||

At this point I feel like I should just let Kirby die instead of finishing the arena

[ocean mauve]

if you can ||dodge the black holes, you're good to go in that fight. if you wanna play it super safe, just place sand castles down when there's an open opportunity, then hide again||

[solar harbor]

By the way for clarification I did beat the True Arena first try

I just feel mentally strained after so many ridiculous chains of events happened throughout it

[ocean mauve]

ahhh I get you

[solar harbor]

Like, ||I was panicking because I dunno how to fight Master Crown as Kirby considering I don't play as Magolor anymore||

||And the other time I got caught in a black hole and the game forced me to hear Kirby's anxiety-inducing scream while watching me take lots of damage from it||

||The attack also fucking removed my Sand ability so I panicked and used Sword from a nearby Blade Knight, then I deployed a Random Copy Essence and chose Sand to continue on, and god... I don't think I like this.||

||This is just way more tense to actually enjoy than anything else||

[ocean mauve]

||it's a scary fight yeah. magolor is brutal||

[solar harbor]

It was a good thing I grinded out Egg Catcher to ease things

But yeah I don't enjoy this fight at all, this emotionally and mentally strained me

||I yelled Pocket Sand anyways while Magolor Soul was sent straight into the portal, though. I signify success, regardless of what happens!||

[ocean mauve]

have a calming kirby video to help ease any nerves https://youtu.be/BZB8ScSze1I

[solar harbor]

Sweet, thanks

I just remembered, the game really did call me a Kirby Master after all so there's that

Thinking about it, nothing changed much in the Kirby Master cutscene from the Wii version, actually

But it really did show I won despite how bad things went

[ocean mauve]

yeah I forget if it even changes anything tbh

other than updating the models

[novel fog]

well there's Sandran and Armoroid in it now iirc

[ocean mauve]

ahh yeah

the new fellows

[solar harbor]

https://open.spotify.com/track/0q07y6MBc2c08xDIbCWq9e?si=5c976ddcf7614078

Afterwards I played this song

OH AND TO ADD TO THAT, I WAS GREETED WITH GOOD NEWS FROM IRONMOUSE SO THERE'S THAT

OKAY, NOW THIS DAY IS TRULY WINNING

"Best VTuber" in Streamer Awards goes to Ironmouse. Kirby Master in Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe goes to ME.

PREPARE TO BOW, R/KIRBY, WELCOME YOUR NEW KIRBY MASTER & DEMON QUEEN

[vocal latch]

Based on our discussion yesterday what if Magolor just dresses as Traitor Magolor (or EX) during Halloween lmfao

[solar harbor]

I think Kirby and his gang would be very unamused at that

King Dedede: Magolor we've been through this, come on man

Kirby: Hmmmph (Looks very unamused)
Bandana Waddle Dee: Uhhh... nice costume I guess?
Meta Knight: just no

[main fractal]

What if he brings out soul costume 😳

[solar harbor]

Kirby:
King Dedede: Get that out of my sight!
Meta Knight: No.
Bandana Waddle Dee: Aaaaahh! runs away

(Marx would also fucking laugh so hard on the ground because he thinks Magolor Soul looks stupid)

[leaden terrace]

OMG

They'd just try to beat him up again

[novel fog]

just go to a world where they aren't around lol

do they have Halloween in the Dream Kingdom? I'd assume they do

[solar harbor]

||I'm pretty sure Team Kirby would be unfazed by the Magolor Soul costume, as they didn't know what the heck was going on with Magolor lol||

||Team Kirby's reaction to Magolor Soul Costume
Sword Hero: Cool!
Doctor Healmore: Great costume! I wonder where'd ya get it...
Beam Mage: A new boss to tackle? Sounds like my plan!
Hammer Lord: Uhh... can I have more candy?||

[thorny shard]

As i move and keep on going through every stage of Dangerous Dinner EX

I have the Super Star Ultra True Arena Music as BG Theme

this is the final stage of my training before the true arena of this game

[solar harbor]

GO GO GO!!

[thorny shard]

Heheheh

[solar harbor]

While ||True Arena Magolor Soul|| may be very... fucking yikes for me, I gotta say... I think my new catchphrase for this game is...

POCKET FUCKING SAND!

[thorny shard]

the last gears and then the final boss.. jeez..

[vocal latch]

I swear I still get the feeling Magolor is cooking something for Easter

Like I get the feeling something Magolor-related will happen

[leaden terrace]

april 9th

i kinda expect them to do smth on april 1st

[main fractal]

Kirby 2

[main fractal]

Is ||Magolors sword called Mistilteinn||

[solar harbor]

Nah

That's a stretch

||The sword is unnamed||

||Mistilteinn has several meanings though, one of which also refers to the wreath design on the Master Crown (since it's also used to refer to parasitic mistletoe)||

[novel fog]

||definitely not, would not be too fitting for him there anyway||

[spark lotus]

Well, there apparently ||IS a legendary sword called mistilteinn||

[novel fog]

||well yeah, but there's a mistletoe that turned into an arrow or spear too||

[main fractal]

||I'm gonna call Magolor's sword Mistilteinn anyway||

I will tell lies. Spread a little misinformation even

[novel fog]

||I mean, people already call Master Crown's boss form that so it might get confusing lol||

||since that is what song title is referring to||

[main fractal]

||Magolor would honestly do that, oh I killed the tree god Mistilteinn and got a sword out of it? Imma name it After the legendary sword||

[rustic trellis]

The man himself would definitely say ||his sword is mistilteinn only if it actually isnt||

[main fractal]

True

[proper spindle]

Next clash game has him selling the exact sword

[jolly valve]

Magolor: What if I break your trust someday?
Kirby: Poyo! (Trusting you is my decision, proving me wrong is your choice.)

[peak dagger]

Though there's a nice parallel that || the name can also be a legendary sword, and you cut that boss in half with a pretty sick sword. Even if the name probably does refer to the boss itself ||

[leaden terrace]

i feel like it refers to the battle itself

||it refers to both the boss and the sword||

[vocal latch]

Agreed

Funny double meaning

[novel fog]

||yeah, there's no real evidence that it is name of Magolor's sword though (or if it was intentional parallel)||

||could be nice if it was a parallel, but who knows||

[peak dagger]

Yeah, I just think it's neat, even if it's a coincidence

[limpid edge]

||If there wasn't a comma in the title it would've worked even better, because you could read it as "Mistilteinn (who is a) Tree Crown without a Ruler" or "Mistilteinn (verb; use the sword named Mistilteinn on the) Tree Crown without a Ruler"||

[novel fog]

eh, don't think it works like that

[leaden terrace]

||this is a p uncommon name format anyways im sure its just meant to refer to the tree in the end||

[vocal latch]

||Lol would've been funny if it was actually called Mistilteinn in the battle||

||Master Teinn||

[leaden terrace]

||or both the tree and the sword||

[lofty condor]

||What if we kissed…||
||Under the Master Crown…||

[leaden terrace]

😳 !!!

[main fractal]

[leaden terrace]

||magolor and the sword kissin||

||"I love you sword!"||

[rustic trellis]

||This kiss is under my control||

[novel fog]

||yeah it is just in relation to the tree, 王亡き樹冠のミストルティン||

[junior fiber]

hydriath and electricky dooter:

[solar harbor]

||O_O||

[solar harbor]

||HOLY SHIT||