[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

[tawdry mulch]

i have gone conspiracy mode about Galacta being a hero still but being painted as evil by the ancients cause he tried to destroy them after realizing they were gonna destroy universes with their actions

[faint galleon]

Nonsense

[leaden terrace]

we will stand toe to toe until one of us falls

if thats how you say it

actually i dont know why i suggested that

[tawdry mulch]

Galactic Crisis scares them out of main universe but then they just go to Clash and evidently fuck it up cause funny Decisive Battlefield

[leaden terrace]

its not even the same subject lol but i guess its both theories were dead-set on

[ruby narwhal]

YES, I always had a theory that gk was (once) good and the ancients where evil and painted him in bad light and now we know the ancients had their moral downfall due to extensive use of the crown

[tawdry mulch]

if kumazaki ever pulls up revealing that Galacta saved main universe trhough the galactic crisis i will be floored

round of applause

[leaden terrace]

the only reason why i even latched onto this morpho theory is cus the butterflies look different color-wise, even if their body design is the same so i went full game thoery

and no im not talking about the yellow butterfly i mean like, the butterflies that appear in robobot to forgotten land

[main fractal]

Galacta Knight is actually Meta Knights brother

Or father

[faint galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/nephew-roommate-father-brother-cousin-gif-11282634

[leaden terrace]

true

[tawdry mulch]

urghhh i want knights lore so baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

[main fractal]

Nightmare made them

[limpid edge]

So... Your cousin's former roommate

[main fractal]

[tawdry mulch]

Forgot Parallel Nightmare is a real dude

[austere willow]

so like

hmm maybe i should ask this in adaptations

[astral ember]

Just like. Give us a Super Star-set up game with different Dream Friends and have one of the games feature the Knights

[tawdry mulch]

Kumazaki holding off on Nightmare lore cause he's been deliberating if he wants to adapt the anime events for him for the past decade

I guess he basically just does this shit in clash just on his own lmfao

[thin forge]

this implies dedede, at some point, wanted a monster to clobbah that there kirby

[main fractal]

Holy Nightmare Co

Game Dedede would never meed a monster

He was the monster

[thin forge]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-king-dedede-swole-evil-buff-gif-24986943

proof

[tawdry mulch]

Apparently Parallel Nightmare does

Summons Dmind and Galacta eats shit both times

[thin forge]

what a nerd

[tawdry mulch]

I don't remember if he summons any of the other ordeal bosses

[floral mantle]

Imagine if Clash Dedede goes into a mecha, and the mech get destroyed and it went into an Another Dimension Wormhole

and that mecha is HR D3

[tawdry mulch]

Ngl I expect him to finally appear in Clash 3 and use the original HR-D3 before Metal General gave it a new paint job

[spiral bobcat]

TFW you win the True Arena by a sliver of health

[leaden terrace]

WIOOOOOO

[thin willow]

I feel like the Most likely scenario was that either

1. GK used the master crown to unlock more power, which led to the ancients locking him up
2. (The more likely scenario) After his fight with void termina, he got corrupted (just like all the bosses in story mode). He became a liability.

[leaden terrace]

👏 👏 👏 👏

[floral mantle]

that would be a great boss fight

[leaden terrace]

yeah i always believed the 2nd one tbh seems pretty obvious

[spiral bobcat]

Tbh I lost most of it due to one attack in the final fight due to carelessness

But none the less

I managed to 100% everything in story mode now!

Including all 18 platinum medals for both versions of the challenge stages

All that's left is...Merry Magoland

[vocal latch]

Yeah, he essentially does the same as Taranza in Clash Deluxe

[floral mantle]

Still wonder what's Clash Dedede cooking

I hope it's reveal he's building a certain mecha...

[spiral bobcat]

Cooking a bag of chips

[tawdry mulch]

||Magolor Epilogue: The Interdimensional Traveler would later confirm that the Master Crown itself is the master of the Doomers, summoning them during its boss fight, as well as summoning the Rampaging Doomers and the Crowned Doomer to prevent Magolor from regaining his powers.||
what is kirby fandom cooking

[vocal latch]

Bro how did they misinterpret it so badly

[tawdry mulch]

i feel like this should be in the speculation box and not the trivia section

[floral mantle]

is this the fandom wiki?

[vocal latch]

||It's obvious the Master Crown went on to Grand Doomer to rule them 😭||

[spiral bobcat]

||...Grand Doomer is right there||

[floral mantle]

why does the wiki makes the lore look so confusing?

[tawdry mulch]

||i just find it funny since they explicitly stated Grand Doomer is the boss and Grand Doomer is the one using the Crown Shards lmao||

[leaden terrace]

||dog imma die||

[floral mantle]

is it me or does fandom wiki is a reason behind the overall confusion behind Kirby Lore?

[fathom cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/you-gotta-be-kidding-me-rip-wheeler-cole-hauser-yellowstone-are-you-kidding-me-gif-17784715

[tawdry mulch]

im open for speculation and junk but like they literally said Grand Doomer is their boss LMAO but i wont kill the fun let them vibe out i guess

[floral mantle]

why is speculation under Trivia?

[leaden terrace]

idk we can just politely tell one of the main editors abot it

...

actually yeah lets leave it that way

[tawdry mulch]

i dont care enough for that LMAO

[leaden terrace]

im waiting for our future arguments with people who genuinely believe ||master crown is the boss||

[ruby narwhal]

Crowned doomer absorbed the crown shards for power but there is no proof it was controlled by the crown

[tawdry mulch]

who knows could be possible given that ||the crown clearly wants the apples and the doomers including grand dont have a reason to give a shit||

[leaden terrace]

it only got a little bit of drip

[main fractal]

||Theu doomers arr attracted to power||

[astral ember]

Loki-looking mofos

[ruby narwhal]

Crowned doomer actually got the crown shards by playing squads in fall guys

[fathom cradle]

i thought it was questionable to put ||a 4 doomer fight literally right before you fight another doomer but it's probably just to obscure the identity of the true boss until at the very end||

[leaden terrace]

||grand doomer: likes energy
crown = power = energy = yowza
apple = energy = yummy||

i think i totally missed your point

not my fault

i have only 3 hours of sleep today

[tawdry mulch]

||Well their description does highlight the fact that we’ve already met the person who should be leading them as a reference to the person leading the other bosses so I think it's supposed to be an "aha" moment||

[fathom cradle]

yeah exactly that's what i mean

they can't put that earlier bc it'd give it away too quickly

[leaden terrace]

||yeah i think its just a matter of "wait why are we still fighting them??" which is very funny||

[ruby narwhal]

Maybe multiple parties where after the same artefact, Magolor, grand doomer and the crown all wanted the apple for its power but the crown couldn’t do anything as it was absorbed by grand/crowned doomer until grand brought it right to the apple and took control after it was no longer being used by crowned doomer after it’s defeated

[leaden terrace]

honestly i loved that

[astral ember]

||So who was leading the other bosses, Grand Doomer or the Crown?||

[leaden terrace]

||grand doomer clearly, the crown just came out of nowhere||

[tawdry mulch]

Oh lmao

[floral mantle]

and what's ||Whispy doing while all of this is happening? Bulking up?||

[leaden terrace]

||probably doesnt exist||

[astral ember]

You think Landia just juggled the crown onto different heads to stop creeping-in corruption?

[leaden terrace]

||i suspect the crown's strength relies on the negativity of its host, so landia's most likely a purely good being which is why it isnt too affected by the crown||

[astral ember]

Oh that's true! I believe the game directly says that, too.

[tawdry mulch]

||Grand Doomer is commanding them the Crown is I guess telling Grand Doomer what they need to get. It's probably an equivalent exchange where Grand Doomer gets power and Crown gets the Apple from Grands work||

[astral ember]

Well, the bringing out the darkness bit

[odd rover]

||If it amplifies the darkness could it amplify it to any degree it wants||

[leaden terrace]

||its how it managed to make use of all of magolor's abilities||

[leaden terrace]

||probably? tree crown was pretty damn powerful all things considered||

[floral mantle]

so... ||if Kirby wears the Crown... Does that mean ultra-prankster Kirby?||

[leaden terrace]

kirby would just not be affected

[astral ember]

The crown shatters lol

[leaden terrace]

LOL

too good

[fathom cradle]

||ultra prankster kirby?||

[floral mantle]

lol

[leaden terrace]

TRUEEEE

[astral ember]

Isn't that what happened with the Jamba heart?

[odd rover]

||I wonder how the previous hosts were defeated||

[astral ember]

it touched Kirby and was all "welp, guess I'm good now"

[leaden terrace]

I SUPPOSE LMAO

[floral mantle]

||Galacta Knight and gang, maybe?||

[leaden terrace]

||lemme guess they were killed||

[odd rover]

||Did the Crown just go “Ok this host is done, time to find a new one”||

[leaden terrace]

||we never know what truly happens to the hosts except maybe magolor soul did give a good glimpse||

||their entire body disintegrates likely due to damage or good ol parasite way and the crown makes up its own form? maybe???||

[tawdry mulch]

I think that was like Termina sees Kirby and/or his friends and goes "oh shit friendship man that's cool augh no gotta kill no friendship no no no"

[odd rover]

||Cordyceps Crown||

[floral mantle]

Magolor ||find out about the Crown by reading a tome, right?||

[odd rover]

Mhm

[floral mantle]

Was he aware of the side effects?

[odd rover]

Maybe he forgot to read the side effects

[leaden terrace]

tbh its a dusty tome

[odd rover]

Whoops

[floral mantle]

or maybe it's purposely excluded?

[leaden terrace]

i dont think all the details are in there

[astral ember]

He probably assumed he was too good because he wanted to make everyone scream... ||With joy and laughter!||

[leaden terrace]

true !!

[odd rover]

This is why you always read the nutrition facts

[vocal latch]

If you think about it

||Crowned Doomer is...Grandtransaction||

[leaden terrace]

ohhh my gawddddd

[tawdry mulch]

Grand Doomer owns HAL Labs

[odd rover]

Mfw Grand Doomer purchases a company

[astral ember]

That's why Grand Doomer wanted the money apple

[floral mantle]

Magolor Epilogue is basically ||Magolor, Master Crown, and the Doomers fighting over the control of the market||

[tawdry mulch]

Money does grow on trees

[leaden terrace]

shut up get out

[odd rover]

I wonder ||why was the crown created in the first place||

[leaden terrace]

||i suspect the creator was being influenced by the force that possesses the master crown||

[floral mantle]

||What if the Crown as originally created as a seal, but the thing it sealed becomes too powerful and used it as a vessel?||

[tawdry mulch]

Think those ancient bastards just wanted power

[astral ember]

Same reason the ancients made the Star Rod, Nova, and did experiements on Elfilis:

||To heck around and find out||

[covert jasper]

lol is fandom wiki already on omega speculation mode 💀

[leaden terrace]

YEAH

[odd rover]

Now ||is the crown really gone?||

[tawdry mulch]

The things selling point is it grants universe controlling power

[lofty condor]

You know this convo is funny because ||I like how most of the antagonists leading the bosses in FL and ME are just referred to as "the boss" and nothing else||

[odd rover]

Oh boy let’s see

[lofty condor]

Like way to be secretive y’all

[leaden terrace]

idk

[obtuse vessel]

So are all the ancients humans

[leaden terrace]

||last time the crown breaks it fucking faded away so surely it mustb e gone. NOPE||

||so theres a 50/50 chance that the crown is gone or still there||

[tawdry mulch]

Hyness exists so no probably

[covert jasper]

me when I only use wikirby now anyway

[lofty condor]

Me!

[floral mantle]

why did the Ancients create (X)?

The Answer: the Ancients feel like it

[covert jasper]

the most common theory I see is that the ancients were a group, so they were more than one race

[odd rover]

You think “The ancients” is an umbrella term for ancient civilizations in Kirby

[leaden terrace]

im actually so

tired rn

but i wanna keep talking

help

[astral ember]

Is it confirmed that Hyness is one of the ancients?

[covert jasper]

no, just implied

[obtuse vessel]

I think so

[odd rover]

It is incredibly likely

[covert jasper]

like most of kirby lore

[floral mantle]

I wonder if Magolor is ||a descendant of the ancients||

[leaden terrace]

probabl ynot lol

[odd rover]

Nothing is ever confirmed just “incredibly likely”

[leaden terrace]

||he already lied about being from halcandra||

[obtuse vessel]

I could see it

[odd rover]

Except this

[floral mantle]

I mean, it is possible though?

[astral ember]

||He's not. There's dialog where he confirms that he isn't from Halcandra, he just thought it was neat and stuck around and researched it for a while.||

[covert jasper]

||probably not when he revealed he's not from halcandra||

[odd rover]

What is fandom wiki saying rn?

[tawdry mulch]

Lmao Magolor shattering countless headcanons

[floral mantle]

wait, where he find the dusty tome?

[odd rover]

Probably exploring

[astral ember]

||I love that this game really is just rewarding you for 100% by giving you more lore from Magolor himself||

[leaden terrace]

||woudlnt like it if hes like actually related to the ancients, the fact that he lied about being from halcandra already makes him an interesting character cus hes literally less relevant than we thought but at the same time hes becoming so fucking relevant to the lore||

makes him such a unique character yknow

[odd rover]

Now is ||he from the same dimension/universe as Halcandra or a different one?||

[tawdry mulch]

||Idk I just saw the one thing about the Crown being the ruler of Doomers in the trivia section of the Doomer page||

[odd rover]

Lol

[covert jasper]

||I'm the ruler of the doomers (they are my pets)||

[floral mantle]

I wonder if the next game ||will be part of a seperate canon or the main canon||

[tawdry mulch]

||Probably different considering Halcandra is just a sad little island with geometric shapes around it||

[floral mantle]

no way, Bandana Dee rules over the Doomers!?

[odd rover]

“I’m da biggest bird i’m da biggest bird” - Grand Doomer

[idle cedar]

Is there a database/archive anywhere of every pause description?

[floral mantle]

The Doomers are traveling back to the first Magolor Day to take Doomers off the menu /j

[tawdry mulch]

He could even be from Kirby's universe tbh lmao Pop Star is just at the corner of the universe after all

Backwater ass planet

[floral mantle]

Popstar have 2 moons, right? Or at least 2 moons?

[odd rover]

Does Mr. Shine count?

[astral ember]

Who was it that Magolor said he knew anyway? Did we ever get confirmation?

[floral mantle]

isn't he the sun?

[covert jasper]

nope

[odd rover]

Mr. Bright*

[floral mantle]

wait

I mix up the 2 misters

[obtuse vessel]

https://youtu.be/VHnZYzhRgXI
can you confirm this scenario happened

[tawdry mulch]

I like to think Mr. shine and bright are the super star sun and moon

A brotherly dispute

[maiden swan]

Well they got very large

[tawdry mulch]

a family torn by the cosmic jester

[odd rover]

Man

[tawdry mulch]

I hope they still call each other

[fathom cradle]

I would love to see a modern Mr shine and Mr bright fight

Their eclipse attack would probably look sick in 3d

[maiden swan]

Oh they do, just not names that should be said

[floral mantle]

How many Moons does Planet Popstar have?

[odd rover]

Does Planet Popstar not rotate around an axis so Mr. Shine and Mr. Bright orbit it to give it a day/night cycle

[astral ember]

It is odd that they never returned again. Or the painer or that weird digging machine thing.

[floral mantle]

How does Planet Popstar astronomy work?

[maiden swan]

The sun and moon probably just rotate around it

[vocal latch]

||I like how it just looks at you during this phase lmao||

[maiden swan]

Bless the souls of whoever is living on the other planets

[faint glen]

||i mean if magolor has no relationship or even location of the ancients, what explanation do we have of his appearance||

[floral mantle]

Imagine a planet where a Penguin is stronger than the Sun and the Moon combine

[tawdry mulch]

||He likes their culture. He did live on Halcandra for a while tbf||

[maiden swan]

Aquarius has to be miserable to live in now that I think about it

Imagine the tides

[tawdry mulch]

||clearly practices their magic too given his runes appearing in HIAD||

[faint glen]

||i mean he still has the ears, but idk||

[tawdry mulch]

||He's not FROM Halcandra but he was there for a long time by his lonesome to study all this junk||

[floral mantle]

will Kracko return for the next game?

[covert jasper]

🫵

[covert jasper]

||ancients fanboy ||

[tawdry mulch]

Kracko is on vacation

[floral mantle]

Can't wait for a game where Kracko complain about not showing up in the previous game to kill Kirby

[leaden terrace]

okay im oging to slep goodnigh

[tawdry mulch]

He clearly has some shit to work through considering he shit he held grudges over in his Kirby fighters description

Sleep0th

[leaden terrace]

im pasin out

[faint glen]

G0d night

[floral mantle]

Man, I got this weird idea for a Kirby game...

[obtuse vessel]

Go honk sho mimimimimi RIGHT NOW

[tawdry mulch]

YOU...! Did you think I'd forget? The time you smashed into me with your Hi-Jump! That time I was betrayed by Helpers! Or when I was replaced by that mechanical cloud! I-I... Sniff... there's something in my eye..

Drama queen get over it

[covert jasper]

kracko is currently busy gathering energy to be the final boss of the next kirby game

||I mean we got almost whispy as the final boss in this game so lol||

[tawdry mulch]

The hi jump thing I get though thats kind of embarassing

[floral mantle]

imagine a Final Boss Kracko for a game where Kirby explores a kingdom in the clouds (Not Florilia)

[tawdry mulch]

Kracko is an EXTREME hater him and Whispy having a hate off

Whispy is probably winning now though

[faint glen]

Yeah and it did ur job better than you ever have

[floral mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/2219-marx-kirby-silence-shut-up-gif-22907583

imagine a Kracko-Whispy Dual Boss

[tawdry mulch]

Kracko lore

[floral mantle]

and it's call Team Returning

or something idk

[faint glen]

Well at least theyd take up less slots oops

[floral mantle]

Basically, Kracko bombards you with lightning and whispy keep you on the ground

[tawdry mulch]

Kracko Epilogue

[main fractal]

Kracko Duration

[rustic ether]

The Robobot Armor Mask is objectively the best mask

I’ll take no criticism lol

[astral ember]

You just discovered the plot of Kirby Fighters 3

[tawdry mulch]

Unfortunately beaten by every mask with sound smhh

[floral mantle]

Kine and Mine Mask >

These mask makes Onion Ocean a bit more tolerable

I hate that ocean

[rustic ether]

Oh yeah I forget that some of the masks do things

[lofty condor]

Finally back home

Time for more ME

[tawdry mulch]

I cannot fathom why only the kine and mine mask do special things

Who what when where and why

[craggy sable]

Just those two

[covert jasper]

the kine fan working on the game:

[craggy sable]

Seriously I have yet to see any datamining on what other masks do

Heck not even like, what line of code even allows these TWO masks to do this one thing

[tawdry mulch]

Ado mask should make you take double damage for challenge runs tbhhh

[craggy sable]

The confusing part is that Fatty Puffer mask exists,

yet despite being another aquatic-based character, that mask does nothing

Oh yeah Chu Chu exists,

But she ain't built for water it doesn't count

[humble crest]

||does the master crown boss fight description change when magolor use the sword to destroy the crown?|| cant check rn

[tawdry mulch]

I feel like there has to be something we are missing but maybe they really did only do Kine and Mine to be funny. Cause at this point someone should have figured something out LMAO

[tawdry mulch]

Yes

[craggy sable]

Oh what

Great time to speedrun this boss

[tawdry mulch]

I shall get the description with great haste

[humble crest]

Perfect thank you

[craggy sable]

NO ILL DO IT FIRST-

/s

[tawdry mulch]

||VS Master Crown
To free the tree and bring an end to the
destruction... To take responsibility for
his wicked ways... With all of his magic
infused into the sword, he must strike!
Magolor must atone for his misdeeds!||

ACK

[humble crest]

Lol

[tawdry mulch]

Thanks discord

[humble crest]

Oh i see

[faint glen]

||"free the tree" it didnt exist before||

[lofty condor]

||https://youtu.be/U2e3Q-9sAUg|| My gender

[vapid kestrel]

||Me when I am born into slavery so I do not need to be freed||

[tawdry mulch]

||Probably did otherwise where did big ass slices and the magic points (which are apple seeds) come from||

[lofty condor]

||God I thought the Beyond the Hill part of this theme was completely original lol||

[craggy sable]

Of freaking course there would be a freaking (Epilogue Finale)

||Pre-Mortem pause description for the FINISHING KILL||

[faint glen]

||ok sure slavery argument but im pretty sure magolor cut that mf tree in half anyways||

[tawdry mulch]

||And then it grows in Clash||

[faint glen]

||the tree appeared from master crown absorbing the apple tho, not the tree it came from||

[tawdry mulch]

||which isn't really his doing the Apple just kind of followed him by the will of fate I guess||

[floral mantle]

Now that the game been out for a while, what score will you give it?

[faint glen]

7,8/10 too much water

Nah uhhh 8.5-9ish

[humble crest]

Solid 9/10

[tawdry mulch]

||tree grow apple therefore apple come from tree||

[faint glen]

Magolor epilogue was the peak of the game
Tho i liked magoland more than i expected

[tawdry mulch]

||Also Crown showed the past of Halcandra so there's a chance it reverted the tree to what is was before all hell broke loose||

[floral mantle]

until the AI starts to cheat

[faint glen]

Eh i didnt mind any of em

[craggy sable]

9/10

Duck you MagoLand

[faint glen]

The only thing that was painful was beating crackity hack 3 times in a row because thats stupid difficulty

[craggy sable]

Also duck you ability challenges

[floral mantle]

I hate Egg Catcher...

[faint glen]

Well u only ever need to get 28

[finite pecan]

wait what do they do

[floral mantle]

improve underwater attack

[faint glen]

Yeah same boost as what water ability gives u

I assume they do not stack tho

[lofty condor]

Boss time moment

[craggy sable]

Well since I 100% my save, what now?

Arenas?

Nah, Magolor Epilogue EX

[lofty condor]

||https://youtu.be/0bWUiwT49-Y|| I now have an excuse to post this again

[craggy sable]

(Doesn't actually exist)

[floral mantle]

do Magologue... but with no upgrades

[faint glen]

Hot

[craggy sable]

Later

Because having seen a guy play Epilogue without upgrading once, it sounds like insanity

I'll start with just not upgrading my health...

[faint glen]

Yeah uh i feel like the beginning of magologue is kinda the hardest part of the game to begin with lol

[craggy sable]

And also my float for that matter

[faint glen]

Er hardest part of the mode i mean

[craggy sable]

I think the levels are a bit too generous with their medal requirements

Because at some point, you're just gonna get platinum on everything the first time

[covert jasper]

I am finally listening to ||INTERNAL STRUGGLE|| like in full and ishikawa omg

[faint glen]

Save for bosses

[rustic trellis]

i mean if you want levels without generous platinum requirements, challenge mode exists

[faint glen]

||Y eah||

[craggy sable]

Well, except for the bosses those are tough actually

[rustic trellis]

I mean, imo Rampaging Doomers is by far the easiest boss to plat

[covert jasper]

ishikawa could make the whole OST for a horror game

[granite cedar]

how is this the most terrifying track in the franchise

i dont know but ishikawa gone it and done it

[faint glen]

I mean tbf they havent really tried since like kirby 64

But it definitely hits

||very undertale genocide feeling..which maybe fits some peoples theories of being a bad end thing||

[granite cedar]

well they did try literally last game

echoes of the eternal tour

theres also one squeak squad track that is inexplicably unnerving

[vapid kestrel]

I mean there was also Working Sounds in PR

[granite cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbe_YjSxzfE&list=PLcDYq-YNNKHMUowoPipNIb3vz1wsODbcQ

for what reason ishikawa made it like this

its the funny mouse game.

there is no need for such track there lol

[faint galleon]

Is this not just ripple star catacombs

Or am I smoking

[granite cedar]

its similar but its not the same

[floral mantle]

Because Kirby's horribly out of character and we need to make it seem dark

[faint glen]

He literally isnt

[covert jasper]

btw @celest grove if you want you should continue your OST rip, since the one in the pins I downloaded isn't in the jukebox order and it bothers me lol

not sure if you ended up finishing it but wanted to give a heads up anyway

[celest grove]

oh

well I have it

gimme a sec

Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe OST
MP3: https://mega.nz/file/QcZxBLjA#HpSq2iSBqsadNCZVd-8JGnAEz4SQ166oMl3qEOz90uo
FLAC: https://mega.nz/file/RJRHTIxI#ABB0SXVuaG9EAqzzU11By1NvoljoT4W_eBX6Rehvs0g

It's in jukebox order

and of course all composer info

and the comment section of every track include the original filename

I may eventually stop doing FLAC rips

because I'm running out of space

lol

also it's not impossible that I messed up somewhere

but I tried my best

[lofty condor]

This game sucks

[granite cedar]

still not as bad as "out of cone-trol" pun from forgotten land

[quartz skiff]

Who would trust magalor

[strong seal]

knowing what we know about magolor now, what's the one question you would ask him if you had the chance

[granite cedar]

"where did you get that dusty tome"

[tawdry mulch]

Library

[floral mantle]

so...

[granite cedar]

WHAT LIBRARY

[floral mantle]

The Magolor Tome Library

[covert jasper]

me when in my kirby fancomic's universe I had created a mysterious library with books of the ancients before star allies even released thanks yet again HAL

[pliant socket]

Ok yeah ME is so much more fun compared to extra mode

I like extra mode don't get me wrong but like. Doing it back to back after doing the main game is tiring

[floral mantle]

so you doing an upgradeless run or normal?

[pliant socket]

Not upgradeless cause this is my first playthrough

[floral mantle]

ok

[lofty condor]

👍

||Time for the Rampaging Doomers||

[sand frigate]

||i was about ask "how the fuck did you beat a stage with no points" and then realized they all got counted lol||

also nice

[main fractal]

Truly the epiloguest Magolor

[lofty condor]

||Magolor Epilogue but getting points make you lose||

[floral mantle]

Lol...

Why is this something Failboat would do?

[lofty condor]

||https://vxtwitter.com/tumbleruff/status/1632845306386857992?s=46&t=KjgI8a61BxDiubZJ7PvGsg|| Time to see how crazy this fight is lol

Wow that

Was crazy lol

||I was expecting them to fight more like Landia and not the Three Mage Sisters: Doomer Edition||

[tawdry mulch]

||Hold on a hot second is King D Mind appearing like Dedede cause of Taranza being weird but still having the Dark Mind eye at his core an indication of Void's functionality ||

[thin forge]

||void? what does void have to do with this lmao||

[tawdry mulch]

||Dark mind mirror attack moment||

||in AB Void fight||

[faint galleon]

||But we know that's another mimic, what does this have to do with D mind||

[ruby narwhal]

Does anyone know what tracks 135 to 161 are in the jukebox?

[covert jasper]

https://wikirby.com/wiki/Jukebox/Kirby's_Return_to_Dream_Land

[clever harness]

Oh!

Ok!

[timid storm]

||secret magolor fight is hard but it’s no match for water kirby||

[clever harness]

So ||Robobot Galactica Knight plays if your Meta Knight or Dedede in True Arena.||
That's cool.

[timid storm]

Oh cool

[clever harness]

Kind of wish it was ||Triple Deluxe Dark Meta Knight for Dedede, though.||

[timid storm]

That would’ve been cool

[ruby narwhal]

I meant in dx, I think they’re different, no?

[covert jasper]

this page has DX too

[timid storm]

What’s jukebox 135-161

[pliant socket]

It should say it on the page

[timid storm]

I don’t have them

Oh the wiki

Ok

[pliant socket]

Yes the wiki

[fleet prism]

The wiki

[timid storm]

||Magoland secret songs ok||

[craggy sable]

Man, Track 199 should've been gotten the moment you heard it

But NOOOOOOOOOO,

I have to hear it in every situation it's used

[timid storm]

I want to get 100% so bad but I kind of don’t want to do magoland

[craggy sable]

Like seriously bro why not be a true arena reward

[ruby narwhal]

Oooooh ||it’s the secret songs in magoland|| I’ve already unlocked a few of them but they aren’t in the jukebox for some reason

[floral mantle]

according to the wiki... ||It sounds like it pretty much is?||

[pliant socket]

Platinuming this is gonna be soooo fun

[craggy sable]

Yet it doesn't register

[floral mantle]

Really now...

[pliant socket]

OHHH like the fucking distant traveler motif?

God yeah it does get annoying

But it fits

Kind of

[craggy sable]

Despite it playing after ||100%-ing the Epilogue or even beating the True Arena||, no turns out you actually have to complete ||ALL THE MISSIONS IN MAGOLAND||

WAIT NO I DID THAT

[pliant socket]

||oh lol I 100%ed magoland first||

[floral mantle]

The ||Extra Missions|| don't count?

[floral mantle]

how fun was it?

[craggy sable]

OH NO, THEY WANT ME TO THE FUCKING ||EXTRA MISSIONS|| SO THAT I CAN HEAR IT AGAIN

[floral mantle]

Do you enjoy some of the cheating AIs?

[tawdry mulch]

||Yes mimicking the very present Dark Mind at the time of the fight||

[neat path]

||I just beat the True Arena, with no abilities or souvenir help!!!||

[craggy sable]

Whoever is responsible for this unneccessary requirement to unlock a 5 second jingle should step down from their job and consider the actions they've allowed themselves to commit

[floral mantle]

Vanpool: HAL:

[jagged dirge]

What's the best way to grind magic points before the lvl 6 trickery challenge level?

[novel fog]

||you know what they meant (influence of the energy/hearts)||

[craggy sable]

Mind you, I can beat the true arena 100 times, hear that victory jingle every time I win, and STILL DON'T HAVE IT REGISTER TO MY JUKEBOX

[celest grove]

Song 199 is like

the proof of true 100%

[thin forge]

black hole challenge

[jagged dirge]

Thanks, figured so. Didn't know if the beam one was more time efficient or something

[spiral bobcat]

This one comment for the music of the final boss for magolor's epilogue lmao

[tawdry mulch]

||That's just not mimicking lmfao if hes mimicking dark hearts he should be making boowowowo sounds and flying away to transition into the next level||

[timid storm]

Bruh I tied to meta knight 3 times in a row

In samurai

[novel fog]

||again, you know what they meant||

||I never said it was mimicking, I just said it was influence||

[neat path]

||I LOVE MICROTRANSACTIONS||

[pliant socket]

||Skill issue....all you have to do is put all of your funds into saving||

[floral mantle]

||or you can burn down that tree before it hits you with a bill||

[neat path]

||Or you could give into the capitalist agenda, and spend all of your money :3||

[floral mantle]

didn

didn't they put a cap on how much you can spent?

[lofty condor]

Alright final boss time

[pliant socket]

TRUEEEEE

[lofty condor]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-shiver-shivering-scared-gif-22811013

[covert jasper]

have fun with peak fiction

[lofty condor]

||This is exactly how I felt playing FL already knowing who the final boss is but still being scared of fighting it lol||

[neat path]

Which final boss? ||Normal mode, Extra mode, Epilogue, or True Arena?||

[neat path]

||I had that reaction without knowing who it was, lol||

[thin forge]

yes

[floral mantle]

what is the cap?

[lofty condor]

Epilogue

[thin forge]

buying the highest possible purchase one time i think

[covert jasper]

the cap is 40 dollars iirc

[neat path]

Gotcha

[thin forge]

aint the most expensive gem apple bundle thing 50 or 60?

[lofty condor]

Also lemme just say ||Crowned Doomer destroying the arena is raw af||

[covert jasper]

no

[spiral bobcat]

40 is all you need to win magolors heart

[covert jasper]

oh actually the cap is only in TKCD

[pliant socket]

Which is um. Going away in 3 weeks!

[neat path]

It's less than full price for a full game, so why didn't they just charge it up front?

[covert jasper]

40

[spiral bobcat]

Hammer Kirby is still good in this game

[pliant socket]

Oh definitely, still one of the best abilities

[spiral bobcat]

I know it's not as strong as it is before, but it carried me for the true arena

Hammer Twirl my beloved

[neat path]

Yeah, definitely. Tho there are some other good ones too.

Sand

[pliant socket]

Don't worry guys! We'll get our unnerfed hammer flip when tdx comes!

[pliant socket]

Right?

[neat path]

Triple Deluxe Deluxe!

[spiral bobcat]

😔

[pliant socket]

...right?

[spiral bobcat]

I will say though

[thin forge]

quadruple deluxe

[lofty condor]

||Images that precede unfortunate events||

[spiral bobcat]

The new hammer flip shreads sphere doomers faster than in the original game lol

[neat path]

A launch title for the first 4D Nintendo console!

[spiral bobcat]

||DON'T GIVE INTO THE MICROTRANSACTIONS!||

[vast vapor]

||eat the gem apple||

[covert jasper]

[lofty condor]

||Images that precede legendary events||

[neat path]

||Magolor Epilogue ending truly goes hard.||

[vast vapor]

||this is exactly how I wanted it to end||

[lofty condor]

||God it’s so funny how none of the Knights were in this mode||

God-tier mode

Alright lemme watch the credits

[neat path]

||Lol, yeah, lots of people thought Morpho Knight would be here, but nope, it's just God Woods!||

[vocal latch]

||Bro I'm still flabbergasted at the fact that the original Magolor Day was on EASTER||

[covert jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-meme-memes-reads-letter-gif-20713760

||this was me watching the credits for magolor epilogue||

[vocal latch]

LOL

[covert jasper]

SO TRUE (although this isn't a spoiler)

[thin prairie]

i literally don't get the point of putting spoiler tags over stuff that's in a spoiler thread

[neat path]

Gotcha, sorry.

[covert jasper]

it shows up in search results

plus people here may be at different progression of the game than you

it's a courtesy

[lofty condor]

Wow they weren’t kidding
This really was Magolor’s Epilogue

[brave crag]

Staff channel leak:

[vast vapor]

that magolor really can epilogue

[lofty condor]

||Jokes aside that was awesome||

[neat path]

We truly did Kirby's Return to Dreamland Deluxe

[novel fog]

||This game really is the culmination of Magolor lmao||

[lofty condor]

||I expected it to be longer but zamn that mode was good||

[covert jasper]

banned

[brave crag]

[neat path]

Anyway, here's something actually spoiler worthy! Me beating the True Arena with no abilities!

[covert jasper]

insane

[sand frigate]

jesus CHRIST that background is gorgeous

[brave crag]

Welcome to the club!

[lofty condor]

Please help ||I think Magolor is my new favorite character now||

[novel fog]

same lol

[sand frigate]

absolutely unreal how good this game looks

[covert jasper]

||welcome your new overlord!||

[neat path]

||I'm sorry, there is no cure, you're stuck with him for life. Now go buy the Magolor plush >:3||

[covert jasper]

but yeah magolor epilogue is just magolor propaganda

[novel fog]

||which one >:)||

[ruby narwhal]

curse. those. doomers.

[lofty condor]

[neat path]

This one >:3

[vocal latch]

||• His design incorporates the color yellow as it is seen as the "color of betrayal in Christianity" according to concept art
• The Master Crown's scales and coiling horns are reminiscent of a snake
• The first Magolor Day was on Easter 2017, Magolor Epilogue (where he "resurrects") reveals that it is right before his appearance in Team Kirby Clash Deluxe
• The "Lor" (or ロア) in Magolor's name means「楽園」in the Jambastion language, it can translate as "paradise" or "Eden"
• Magolor calls Halcandra the「約束の地」"The Promised Land" in Extra Mode
• The Ethereal Altar's Japanese name is「エデンの間」"Room of Eden", a reference on the Garden of Eden
• Magolor gathers the Fruit Fragments into the Red Fruit (which is an apple), which seems to be inspired by the Fruit of Knowledge (often depicted as an apple)
• When the Master Crown fuses itself with the Red Fruit, it becomes a tree, potentially a reference to the Tree of Knowledge and the Original Sin||

[novel fog]

smh imagine not buying all of them

[neat path]

Fair

[covert jasper]

kumazaki what.

[vocal latch]

If I missed anything tell me lmao

[neat path]

||The eye of Magolor Soul represents...Dark Matter ||

[novel fog]

||I like how the white on Clash Magolor symbolizes something too, his 潔白 (innocence/purity) ||

[vocal latch]

Yeah lmao

[covert jasper]

||I swear if TKCD released just before easter in 2017 for this kumazaki is 4 another parallel dimensions ahead of us||

[vocal latch]

IKR

||LIKE WHAT||

||AND IT HAS A DOUBLE MEANING TOO BECAUSE HE'S AN EGG AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA||

||I originally thought that was the joke, but now with Epilogue it has a fucking double meaning||

[neat path]

||Magolor is Jesus||

[covert jasper]

the more this series goes on the more I refuse to believe kumazaki is a real human being

like

wtf

[vast vapor]

||pretty sure kumazaki is god himself||

[vocal latch]

This is like uncanny either way

Who would've thought that a cute funny fucking line would mean this 😭

[neat path]

I can’t wait for the Ancients to be the equivalent of Ancient Rome!

[faint glen]

||wrong game thats clash||

[faint galleon]

OOOOOOOOUGH

[celest grove]

egg is best egg

[vocal latch]

[covert jasper]

NO WAY

[humble crest]

Holy

[neat path]

||OH MOTHER FUCKER||

[vast vapor]

death

[humble crest]

||this is INSANE||

[faint galleon]

[celest grove]

Only Kirby fans can go insane over ||Ancient Rome||

[neat path]

True. No one in real life cares about that anymore.

[bold epoch]

Anyone interested in joining me on parsec to play a no-copy ability run?

[novel fog]

||also since we're mentioning 楽園 (paradise), could mention that Lor is supposed to lead you there (which is mentioned in Lor EX) description lol (also possibly maybe the Mafo (or Lie) and Mapop (or Hope) possibly being like Mago/Maho part of name thing)||

[celest grove]

||isn't Mafo actually like Maho in japanese||

[novel fog]

no

||Mafo is マフォ||

[vocal latch]

It has a similar pronunciation but it's not the same.

[celest grove]

oh

then I did a mistake

[novel fog]

||and then there's Mapop which is マポップ||

[thin prairie]

|| OH MY GOSH IM TIRED OF LEVEL 3 OF EGG CATCHER WHO WAS THE PERSON WHO HAD THE IDEA OF THE TRUE EXTRA MISSION OF COLLECT 28 EGGS OMG I FEEL ON HELL I CANT I CANT ||

[celest grove]

I did it

I got 28 eggs... and died

but it still counted

so I'm happy

[thin prairie]

Help me thwn 🥰😡😭

[celest grove]

no

git gud

[vast vapor]

I got a perfect on level 3 somehow so

If I can do it anyone can

[celest grove]

Kirby games are ez

[thin prairie]

Speak for you

[celest grove]

Also speak for you

[floral mantle]

says the Cheating AI who shoot all the targets before you can

[humble crest]

Nah

[idle cedar]

||they got the classical architecture and futuristic architecture. perhaps a difference in eras or the science vs magic users thing hyness ranted about||

[neat path]

Got damb

[vast vapor]

||chaos elfilis||

[neat path]

||Also, that's supposed to be Egg Engines, right?||

[idle cedar]

||yes. egg engines got owned by master crown. metal general is the only thing left operating this cringe city lol||

[covert jasper]

yeah

[neat path]

||Ah, I see, nice.||

[celest grove]

||wait is it time travelling or something||

[idle cedar]

||before this game I thought egg engines was still an active city. nope, it's just metal general ||

[humble crest]

||probably time travelling yeah, the ancients are known for this||

[vapid kestrel]

Halcandle Dees, doing absolutely fuck all in Egg Engines:

[vast vapor]

||to be fair pretty sure if HR D3 was summoned in an active city people would definitely say something about it||

[neat path]

||Well the Ancients are gone, and the enemies around the place don't seem to have the greatest intelligence, so I'd assume it wouldn't be active, or at least not like it once was.||

[idle cedar]

||yeah once he gets the gem apple he presumably goes back in time to destroy halcandra which is what we see. if this is the case then magalor literally saves halcandra from complete destruction||

[covert jasper]

||I forgot if it was in the RtDL novel or what they said halcandra used to thrive or something||

[lofty condor]

Yeah they did

[celest grove]

||But in that case Magolor saved Halcandra in the past but in his future||

[covert jasper]

||mie knew!||

[idle cedar]

||part of atoning for his sin maybe||

[lofty condor]

Until it ||all fell into sudden ruin||

[celest grove]

||That said like... Halcandra still fell into ruins out of this||

[covert jasper]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm why is that so familiar hmmmmmmmmm

[idle cedar]

they running on those treadmills which is good for their physical fitness

[covert jasper]

||halcandra 🤝 new world||
||sudden ruin||

[fathom cradle]

what the fuck are they doing

[covert jasper]

their best

[neat path]

||Eh, I think he just went to the present Halcandra, and the fight didn't have much consequences to the place.||

[novel fog]

free him

[idle cedar]

||he didn't. present halcandra is already destroyed||

[junior fiber]

also those ones inside the crushing thing

[vapid kestrel]

||I think it's just like. A recreation of the past. Like what is the point of putting a closed timeloop here what does that achieve||

[covert jasper]

yeah this is how I see it

[celest grove]

||Suddenly HAL remakes Alcahest and suddenly it's Egg Engines at one point||

[idle cedar]

||the entire city is destroyed sinking into the ground during the course fight. you see its ruins when you play egg engines||

[covert jasper]

god I still love this trivia section

[neat path]

My honest response to all this:

[covert jasper]

TRUE

[thin prairie]

If we get a game detailing the ancients fall,(since it feels like we may be inching towards that) I want it to be styled like the steam punk AU
Or just any kirby game styled like the steam punk AU merch

[vocal latch]

WAIT

[celest grove]

fuck my brain is going into a rabbit hole of ideas i wanna see in Kirby

[covert jasper]

kirby RPG copium forever

[celest grove]

I need to stop

[junior fiber]

that'd be sick

[idle cedar]

||believe it or not, halcandrans were actually good at making bridges. the cringe warped bridge in egg engines isn't intentional. master crown messed it up 😔||

[vocal latch]

||The gap between TKCD's release & Easter was also 3 days lmfao||

[pliant socket]

||Yup we're aware||

[celest grove]

||I was randomly thinking about a Zelda Kirby game set in Dream Kingdom dimension||

[covert jasper]

KUMAZAKI??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

KUMAZAKI????????????????????????????????

HELLO?????????

[neat path]

||I think if the Master Crown did that, there'd be nothing left, lmao.||

[pliant socket]

||Btw.........do you guys know the best way to platinum hydriath||

||im kind of stumped||

[covert jasper]

pick a god and pray

[vapid kestrel]

||But that's. That's literally what's happening in the first screenshot.||

[celest grove]

Currently my mood

https://soundcloud.com/aurorange/alcahest-panakeian-temple

(not the original song)

[covert jasper]

BASED ALCAHEST MUSIC

[thin prairie]

That’s because magolor is a living easter egg

[vapid kestrel]

Not anymore

[idle cedar]

||exactly. it would have been gone if magalor didn't go back in time with the crown and absolutely destroy it||

[fathom cradle]

just upgrade magolor surge and do hit and run tactics

[celest grove]

||I secretly want basically Kirby Alcahest||

[fathom cradle]

you don't need perfect combos for plats

[pliant socket]

ok cool lol, just maxed it out

[neat path]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smiling-smile-cat-orange-smile-cat-gif-23133359

[junior fiber]

idk i dont think they actually went back in time

[celest grove]

||It's legit impossible to tell if they went back to time or if the Crown basically reproduced its own dimension with a recreation of what it remembers||

[thin prairie]

The Goriaths and rampaging doomers are this game’s version off prybbits “come here so I can kill you” just on a smaller scale

[hexed vault]

||my tactic was to get lucky with magolor surges, bomb from above when it breaks the floor and then hit it with a beam. pray for a high combo||

[celest grove]

||Because Magolor with the Crown also pretty much made his own dimension to fight Kirby in||

[pliant socket]

Thank u comet 🙏 I will try

[novel fog]

||yeah, at most the Halcandra would be from a parallel (and/or it gets destroyed anyway lol, not like Magolor and Master Crown's fight caused it or anything)||

[neat path]

||Pyribbit's fine, y'all are just impatient ||

[celest grove]

yes

we are

this boss sucked

[junior fiber]

he's worse in SKC

[idle cedar]

||Hal introducing the multiverse to the Kirby universe to explain microtransaction lore while we still don't know who meta knight is||

https://tenor.com/view/amen-gif-23345354

[junior fiber]

1 minute time limit challenge 😭

[fathom cradle]

we better get hydribbit in taranza prologue smh

[thin prairie]

Lmao

[neat path]

||Or Galacta Knight, or Morpho Knight, or The Ancients, or Kirby himself!||

[celest grove]

If we get Kirby Triple Deluxe Ultra it could be nice to have Kirby Fighters Deluxe and Drum Dash Deluxe in it as bonus

[novel fog]

||I mean, we had parallels and stuff before Clash lol||

[thin prairie]

||Something about gem apple lore is 100x funnier when said as microtransaction lore||

[novel fog]

||they've just been more prominent with stuff like both Clash games and RTDL DX now||

[floral mantle]

pretty sure ||Kirby's origin is supposed to remain a mystery?||

[celest grove]

Sakurai wants Kirby to stay mysterious

[neat path]

||Maybe, but there's still the others, lol.||

[celest grove]

and I'm sure Kumazaki will respect that

as much as he did play with fire in Star Allies but he never really confirmed anything about Kirby

[junior fiber]

he got very close to the fire

[floral mantle]

hmmm...

[thin prairie]

I just realized battle royal was the only online multiplayer centric kirby game that had a content update with sleep being added. Idk if thats funny or sad

[celest grove]

you forgot Mirror

[floral mantle]

How many Christan references does Magolor have on him?

[celest grove]

100

[neat path]

All

[pliant socket]

Infinity

[idle cedar]

kirby origin: kirby blew in on a spring breeze and chose violence

[neat path]

Minus a blatant cross symbol anywhere.

[thin prairie]

Magolor when he goes to church on magolor day

[pliant socket]

You see. This isn't common knowledge but Magolor was born into the world on the same day as Jesus's birth

[floral mantle]

Kirby's true origin:

Sakurai draws a circle. Then he dot the eyes. Then he add a great big smile. and Presto, it's Kirby

[pliant socket]

Source: me

[thin prairie]

Source:I made it the fuck up

[neat path]

Source: I went back in time and made it true!

[floral mantle]

Me when a certain Youtuber sees all of Magologue:

[thin prairie]

Source: magolor is spreading misinformation on the internet

[neat path]

Whom'st'd've?

[floral mantle]

so... anyone familiar with Kirbo?

[neat path]

Oh yeah

[thin prairie]

I thought you were talking about
planet the bronto burt

[neat path]

That YouTuber.

[odd rover]

Kirby’s origin: He became a coordinate plane

[pliant socket]

||ok so im assuming that the hydriath platinum medal requirement is like 1500||

[floral mantle]

Remember what is associated with Kirbo? Now look at Magolor epilogue...

[finite pecan]

anyone know how to get track 199 in jukebox?

[neat path]

https://tenor.com/view/poyo-terminal-montage-whisper-poyo-kirbo-christian-kirbo-gif-26485584

[pliant socket]

||complete every magoland mission||

[floral mantle]

Terminal Montage seeing Magolor Epilogue be like:

[finite pecan]

NOOOO

[idle cedar]

||true. this is all we really have to go off of. I think we can safely say that master crown caused halcandras destruction at least. and so far I am leaning into the time travel explanation||

[hexed vault]

yeah

[neat path]

The first Terminal Montage two part Kirbo special! Part 1, Return to Dreamland. Part 2, Magologue!

[hexed vault]

||me with the slick 1502. I'm such a gamer (pained)||

[floral mantle]

or ||there's multiple wielders and Ancients are complete idiots||

Let's make a bunch of clockwork stars that can grant wishes

• Ancients, probably

[pliant socket]

||im probably gonna just max out my trickery so this won't be as painful||

[neat path]

||If the Master Crown did cause Halcandra's destruction, I think it would've been from one of its past wearers, and that's the reason it's being guarded by Landia.||

[floral mantle]

Why does the Ancient love making things that would eventually cause their own demise?

[hexed vault]

hubris

[neat path]

Idiocy

[junior fiber]

tomfoolery

[neat path]

They're the 2nd most stupid geniuses in fiction, right behind Dr. Eggman!

[pliant socket]

||I was 8 points off ||

[vast vapor]

||trickery, even||

[neat path]

Tomfuckery

[pliant socket]

Tomfoolery

[fathom cradle]

if i could make i would

[thin forge]

laughs in doctor heinz doofenshmirtz

[neat path]

Nah, Eggman's dumber.

[idle cedar]

||the gem apple was one of its wearers technically 😎||

[junior fiber]

ahh perry the platypus what will you do against my galactic novainator

[thin forge]

https://tenor.com/view/perry-the-platypus-phineas-and-ferb-pnf-dr-doofenshmirtz-perry-gif-26543370

[thin forge]

eggman: "a sentient blue hedgehog?"

sonic: puts shoes on

eggman: "SONIC the sentient blue hedgehog?!"

[neat path]

💀

[covert jasper]

reference to humanity

[pliant socket]

OK I DID IT

[floral mantle]

... it's kinda sad

[pliant socket]

Im so cool (no im not)

[junior fiber]

one at a time ladies

[neat path]

||I already got the EX level, I don't need all Platinums, lol.||

[thin forge]

||i got platinum on the ex level first try i had no idea what i was doing half the time lmao||

[lost briar]

||I got platinums on most of the stages by the time I beat the final boss lol||

[floral mantle]

Imagine ||upgrading all the Magolor Abilities except health...||

[thin forge]

why

[junior fiber]

simply be like me and get bronze/silver on everything

[thin forge]

why would i imagine that

[neat path]

||I mean, you need to upgrade Health to get all the stages...||

[lost briar]

it was weird as hell how I was botching those Room Guarder segments where you have to protect a container of Magic points but I still got platinum

[floral mantle]

you know...

Who here die to that Cutter Puzzle?

[junior fiber]

me

[floral mantle]

lol

[junior fiber]

felt stupid afterwards

[neat path]

The one in White Wafers?

[maiden swan]

Not me but it’s always funny watching people die to it

[floral mantle]

yes.

[finite pecan]

i actually never did, i always did it on the platform to the left

[granite cedar]

wait a fucking second. did people point this out yet. probably did but what the fuck.

[neat path]

Ah. I may have when I first played the Wii version years ago, but definitely not now :3

[odd rover]

Difference in skill

[granite cedar]

im talking about the symbol btw

[odd rover]

Oh no bro

[junior fiber]

oh on the floor

he

[granite cedar]

are they actually cooking with ||d-mind/dark-mind lore???||

[junior fiber]

he's gonna come back

[maiden swan]

||Symbols look slightly different so I’ll call it coincidence||

[neat path]

||That's the fucking joystick symbol.||

[granite cedar]

hell yes they will make my boi d-mind canon

[thin forge]

||when the battle is decisive||

[granite cedar]

we will have our evil dedede fix at last

[odd rover]

D-Mind will invade the prime universe

[junior fiber]

they should make shadow dedede canon tbh

[granite cedar]

i mean thatll be even easier

dedede just need to look in the mirror during a canon event

[junior fiber]

then do it HAL!!!

[odd rover]

||My god we can say shit like prime universe now||

[maiden swan]

“Your majesty look at this mirror I found”

[neat path]

||Actually, never mind, I see it.||

[finite pecan]

YOOO KIRBY'S DREAM BUFFET 2 CONFIRMED

[granite cedar]

honestly we shouldve started doing that a while ago

would make it much easier to distinguish

[odd rover]

True

[junior fiber]

canon basically means nothing now so might as well get a better term

[granite cedar]

i mean

[floral mantle]

or call it Clashverse and Main

[granite cedar]

what we always meant by canon was always prime-verse anyway

aka main verse, the one that is relevant

[idle cedar]

who lives here

[odd rover]

Me actually

[junior fiber]

racists

WHAT

[neat path]

Dark Matter

[odd rover]

Oh no bro

[vocal latch]

||I think it more likely represents the crown. Though it also reminds me a bit of 0² or the Jambastion eye symbols lol||

[novel fog]

||oh yeah didn't mention yet, doesn't Magolor call Halcandra the 約束の地 (promised land) in JP version? just something to think about lol||

[covert jasper]

||I think someone did but this is insane because we never learned what this symbol means so lol kumazaki what||

[vocal latch]

Oh VERY true

[junior fiber]

wouldn't mind more mirror lore 👉 👈

[vocal latch]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/933615439848808448/1080965678477090886/image.png ||

[odd rover]

Hell yeah third mirror game

[floral mantle]

can't wait for Amazing Mirror 2

[covert jasper]

kirby when eyes

[junior fiber]

eyes end hexagons

[neat path]

HEXAGONS

[neat path]

ALL HEXAGONS ARE DARK MATTER!!!

[thin forge]

guys its just an eye

wait what am i saying

this is kirby lore

[junior fiber]

dna motif for some reason

[covert jasper]

kirby final bosses be like

[odd rover]

Dark Matter is in your blood

[vocal latch]

All eye symbols we've had before at least afaik

[fair oriole]

||Can you lose in the master crown phase 2 battle?||

[vocal latch]

Just for comparison

[thin forge]

magolor: 🥐

[covert jasper]

[vocal latch]

||I'm pretty sure the one at the altar is meant to represent the crown's tree form, though.||

[neat path]

I mean, to be fair, Hyness's rant confirms the cult did something with Dark Matter.

[neat path]

Yes

[vocal latch]

They worship dark matter (as in, substance)

[junior fiber]

they drink it

[odd rover]

Gulp gulp

[junior fiber]

the soul melter hot sauce is pure dark matter..

[neat path]

Yes

[neat path]

Who's to say the Dark Matter entity isn't made of it?

[vocal latch]

Oh it 100% is.

[floral mantle]

so... ||this brings me to ask this question, is Dark Matter truly gone?||

[vocal latch]

Without a doubt lmao

[lofty condor]

You know I’m legitimately surprised that ||True Magolor Soul didn’t go ball mode lol||

[junior fiber]

im still lost on heart matter tbh, im just assuming thats what kirby's made of for whatever reason

[neat path]

||Probably not, but we'll see.||

[vocal latch]

https://tenor.com/view/science-dark-matter-science-fact-space-science-space-gif-25229993

[junior fiber]

i eat dark matter

[lofty condor]

Cool facts!!!!!

[floral mantle]

next kirby game:

||Somehow, Dark Matter Return||

[junior fiber]

through a rift in space time--

[neat path]

||He went one eye mode tho, so that counts for something.||

[novel fog]

||Mentioning Master Crown stuff, still wonder if Master Crown could be like Magolor's 'forbidden fruit', there's a line from the Bible about the forbidden fruit that sounds suspiciously Magolor (Soul)-like:||
||"And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."||
||'your eyes shall be opened'? sounds like Magolor Soul lol, 'ye shall be as gods' also sounds very Traitor Magolor-like, wonder if it is just a coincidence or if they planned it to be like that||

[vocal latch]

||You know, I wonder, is the Dimensional Abyss personalized for any who enter it? ||

[neat path]

||Also, him not getting confirmed destroyed, but only warped through a portal, in the True Arena is pretty sus.||

[vocal latch]

||Would be funny if Galacta Knight entered it before, considering how this remake specifies his seal being a「ジェムの ふういん」(Jemu no Fū in) "Gem Seal"||

[nocturne summit]

In the original a lot

[novel fog]

||still wonder why they specifically used ジェム for that, gives Gem Apple vibe||

[vocal latch]

Yeah

[vocal latch]

||Well, he was sealed by Team Kirby, who use Gem Apples for power-related things ||

[floral mantle]

... wait what

[novel fog]

||I mean I guess, but I'd assume he was sealed before that too lmao||

||oh wait the Gem stuff just comes to him lol||

[pliant socket]

||what's the platinum requirement for 4-3?||

[vocal latch]

||He's already ancient by that point so yeah, true, though Parallel Nightmare summoned him without any seal so yea who knows||

[novel fog]

||also surprised you wrote all this without mentioning the apple stuff (and how the Forbidden Fruit is often depicted as one) lol||

[vocal latch]

Yeah also true

Wait

guys

LEONGAR (KIRBY AND THE FORGOTTEN LAND)
かつて、この地に 住んでいた者たちは
このお方から キセキの力を さずかり…
その力で かなた 夢の大地へと
飛び立って いったのだ。
The ones formerly living in this land were blessed with the power of miracles from this honorable one…
They flew off to a distant land of dreams with that power.

Track 102, the theme that plays in the exterior of the Lor area in Halcandra, is called...「夢にまでみた大地は」according to DeepL "The land of my dreams is"

GUYS

[odd rover]

[novel fog]

lol I noticed that too

I wonder if Halcandra really is the land of dreams

[vapid kestrel]

What's 102's English name

[vocal latch]

The Long-Desired Land I think

[vapid kestrel]

Makes sense

[novel fog]

yeah The Long-Desired Land

[hexed current]

Weird take incoming but ||the crown shards around the apple look like they would taste good. Like very sweet cereal||

[pliant socket]

||b-b-b-bronze???????||

[vocal latch]

😭

MPS destroyed

[solar harbor]

||When I platinum'd it I got a combo of 96||

[pliant socket]

I'm not mid I swear

[solar harbor]

Upgrade Magolor Surge

[floral mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-epilogue-kirby-return-to-dreamland-adventure-wii-magolor-gif-27552774

[vast vapor]

skill issue

[floral mantle]

Let's not make fun of MPS...

[vast vapor]

don’t worry though ||getting platinums in epilogue is actually pretty easy||

[vapid kestrel]

Yea I think I would translate 夢にまでみた大地は as "The Land I've Only Ever Dreamed Of Is"

[vocal latch]

Dude this is crazy

Jukebox lore insanity further continues...

[tawdry mulch]

Land of dreams real

[vocal latch]

YEAH

[vapid kestrel]

Wait so this was the theme outside of the Lor in Halcandra right

[tawdry mulch]

Dreamland 2

[vocal latch]

Yes

[vapid kestrel]

That funny theme that sounds like shit

[pliant socket]

2nd try moment

Mwahaha

[vapid kestrel]

Lmfao

[vast vapor]

skill issue revoked you are a gamer

[novel fog]

do think it is weird it doesn't seem to have Magolor's speaking style at all

[vapid kestrel]

Wait good point, maybe it's not from Magolor's perspective and just a general title

Like "A Land Only Ever Seen in Dreams Is"

[tawdry mulch]

Some guy: "we are going to the land of dreams."

Some other guy: "The medieval one or the main one"

Guy from before: "Both! And maybe even a third!"

[pulsar falcon]

Game 100%ed

What a dream battle!

[pliant socket]

||Holy SHIT they did not just put the rapture in kirby||

[vocal latch]

why are the lore-related titles in funny ass themes like this https://youtu.be/hyFOkuj5F-k https://youtu.be/6I5FNAiL2H4

[tawdry mulch]

Ancients coming to Pop Star like "This is the Land of Dreams.. " (Galactic Crisis happens) "This is no longer the land of Dreams this other place is instead"

[novel fog]

also god I wish someone would write down the JP lines for Magolor's new 120 Spheres dialogue so I could look at it easier lol

[vocal latch]

SAME

Google Lens doesn't help because it mixes small & large similar looking characters up

[pulsar falcon]

Hmm seems like I'm lacking track 199 in the music player

[novel fog]

did you do all 120 Magoland missions lol

[pulsar falcon]

Oh

Not yet

[granite cedar]

i feel like this in a way represents this series perfectly, doesn't it LOL

[pulsar falcon]

Is that why the vegetable valley remix wont play in the main menu?

[vocal latch]

IKR

You saw what we found right Klu LOL

[granite cedar]

okay but this is actually crazy

we might already have a definite answer on what leon/forgo meant by this

which would make sense

||halcandra being central hub for ancients to travel to different worlds with their prosperous society moment||

[pliant socket]

Yeah

[tawdry mulch]

Well maybe cause we still don't have a clear cut idea of what their course of events was since Halcandra seems to be the place they went boom

[vapid kestrel]

Honestly I'm only half convinced this is meant to call back to FL's land of dreams but like
Maybe the point of the title cutting off in Japanese is like
"The land you dreamed of is already destroyed/doesn't exist'

[tawdry mulch]

And the seem to have dipped from main universe

[granite cedar]

thing is

this is sussy to me because literally no one referred to halcandra like this

[tawdry mulch]

And clash is somewhere in here

[granite cedar]

and it's not from point of view from magolor

[tawdry mulch]

Somewhere.

[pliant socket]

||biblically accurate tree defeated||

[novel fog]

yeah even Magolor just called it the Promised Land

[granite cedar]

which was the one overhyping it

[novel fog]

(which is still sussy in its own way lol)

[granite cedar]

so yeah i feel like this is definitely intentional

and more probable than literally them going to dream land straight up lol

[thin prairie]

Yall read the pause for the two doomer ex fight?

Like who else could it possibly be about? What else?

[pulsar falcon]

Okay why is the || Fighters 2 final boss theme || in the music player? Along with two different versions of ||Galacta's theme||

[vast vapor]

epilogue had such a great ending am I right

[granite cedar]

those tracks play in true arena if you play it as dedede or meta knight

[pulsar falcon]

Oh?

Where specifically?

[novel fog]

what the original Doomer thing?
could be related to Greater Doomer
though I've also seen theories they're somehow related to Elfilis and/or Marx lmao

[pliant socket]

Peak i think

[thin prairie]

The greater doomer isnt from long ago. So for now I am gonna go with Elf.

[novel fog]

||Galacta Knight fight||

[pulsar falcon]

Mmhm

[neat path]

||Galacta Knight||

[pulsar falcon]

||Galacta's battle is so lame honestly||

[novel fog]

I mean, I never said it was, just could be related
and note Clash is still a past-like setting

[pulsar falcon]

They didnt have to go so hard into being an accurate remake

[vocal latch]

#1077968255232254092 message

[thin prairie]

Baro#8858 - #[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

||GREATER DOOMER
かなた からの まよい鳥が 再来！
次元を わたる そのツバサは
暗き やみ夜に まぎれこむ！
The distant lost bird is back!
Its dark wings that cross dimensions
blend into the dark night!

SPHERE DOOMERS EX
古代には 今とは ちがう姿で
空間をこえる力を 使いこなしていた というが…
It is said that in ancient times, they had mastery of
dimension-crossing powers in a different form than they do now… ||

Quoted by Baro#8858 • [352190357880045579] · Mar 5, 2023, 12:17 AM

[faint galleon]

Long Desired land...???

[vocal latch]

Scroll up even further to get your mind blown LOL

[vapid kestrel]

I copied Magolor's speech into my doc if you wanna look at it

[vocal latch]

Which one?

[neat path]

I mean, from the original release, it was the first fight against him in a non remake game, so it was pretty impressive at the time, but yeah, it has gotten pretty stale.

[vapid kestrel]

His 120 speech I mean

[granite cedar]

me when i thought that this leongar's phrase will be source of speculation for years to come and then the funny rtdl dx jukebox happens

[pulsar falcon]

Being this the same system as Aeon Hero fights yeah

[idle cedar]

wait sphere doomers are actually furries 😦

[fleet prism]

THEY'RE NAMED FEATHTRIES

[novel fog]

note they don't seem to need to always have spheres (or similar) in their mouth, while the others are always seen having something

[thin prairie]

Maybe? Now they are.....featheries?

[faint galleon]

THEY DID NOOOOOOT??????

[granite cedar]

i mean they are literally like

fucked up birbs