#[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

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leaden terrace
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i copied the render lol

austere willow
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gremlin

thin forge
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society if daroach was actually 7,982 roaches in a rat costume

thin prairie
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Oth it’s only been a minute
Your hands are gonna explode

faint glen
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fair enough pfvf

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lookin forward to it tho
liar wizard egg

leaden terrace
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dont tell jedi this

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dont tell jedi i showed yall without him

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bye bye

faint glen
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i think magolor would take liar and wizard and deceiving as a compliment
but not egg

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magolor will never defeat the egg allegations

thin prairie
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What about the cat allegations?

leaden terrace
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he aint responding to the cat allegations at all

thin forge
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those arent ears

jolly valve
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Magolor on the Lor: Pink one, move us behind those rocks

thin forge
leaden terrace
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trueee

thin prairie
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That implies his sholders are coming from his head

thin forge
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yes it does

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thats why i said it

thin prairie
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Man if magolor actually had arms that would be very disturbing

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Be like a hunchback gremlin

thin forge
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hear me out

leaden terrace
thin forge
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he grows feet, too

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runs on all 4s like a deranged crab

leaden terrace
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i just noticed the face on the far left lmao

worldly burrow
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Whats the best stage for farming magic points in me?

maiden swan
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||Trickery 6, I believe||

worldly burrow
worldly burrow
maiden swan
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||The Trickery 6 training door or whatever those are called||

worldly burrow
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Ah i see

austere willow
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Ordeal Doors

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Trial Doors in jp

thin forge
maiden swan
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Doesn’t that one take longer to finish

thin forge
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not for me

austere willow
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john mulaney voice

thin forge
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john mulaney voice

lime acorn
leaden terrace
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huh :(

austere willow
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"Another loss... with worse consequences..."

lime acorn
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We all cry over an egg qwq

worldly burrow
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his little giggle after performing the giant laser tho

glossy jay
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Crown needs a battery of some sorts to actually do anything

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If you let it sit on the ground it would do nothing

lime acorn
leaden terrace
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kick it acrossthe floor

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smash it with a hammer

glossy jay
leaden terrace
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wtf!!! left toe soul

glossy jay
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😭

thin forge
leaden terrace
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cant count how many times i almost teared up

worldly burrow
thin forge
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i just want to slap him in the face for being a liar but then hug him for like, being an egg

worldly burrow
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like if u cri everytim ;_;

leaden terrace
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i want to slap him for being a liar and kick him for being a wizard

glossy jay
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Is there any reason for that Magolor sad gif or is it just because he's sad in that mode

thin forge
leaden terrace
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then treat him to a dessert because i love him

worldly burrow
thin forge
glossy jay
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Well yea

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Bro deviled eggs

leaden terrace
glossy jay
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I'd fuck a plate of those up rn

worldly burrow
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they really sent him to hell

austere willow
unreal stag
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not slapping arms on an egg

leaden terrace
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what difference does that make

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this is my new magolor gijinka

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lime acorn
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LMAO

queen rune
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I sometimes make Kirby Gijinkas, but the design philosophy I have is to make them more bipedal with whilst keeping them as nonhuman as possible

leaden terrace
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i just try to find a good middle ground between monstrous/unique and human besides a few exceptions

queen rune
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I find making them just plain "anime people" to be kind of boring, and it loses some of the uniqueness. So I try to keep them non human if possible, maybe giving them some animal traits at most

keen atlas
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is magoland a different au

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also, is kirby clash canon??

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also also, do you need to beat the challenge staged with a gold ranking for 100% ?

leaden terrace
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||Magoland is unspecified but its implied to take in another place of time||

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||Yes Kirby Clash is canon||

ocean mauve
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idk what the requirements are for magolor epilogue stages, but for regular challenge stages you can get bronze and be fine

solar harbor
keen atlas
keen atlas
ocean mauve
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lmao felt

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i didn't have the patience to grind platinum either

leaden terrace
keen atlas
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another world could count as another au wouldn't it

leaden terrace
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not sure

keen atlas
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eh

novel fog
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another world could either be a dimension or a parallel
technically it could even be just a planet

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but we don't know

austere willow
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doesnt it just say "different"

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what does the jp say

novel fog
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something like some world and some time iirc

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leaden terrace
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yeah they keep it like really ambiguous in japanese

austere willow
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ya so you cant really say its "another"

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just "different"

granite cedar
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Yeah it's basically all but directly stated that it's from the future

wintry turtle
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Thats so awesome

leaden terrace
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prob left it ambiguous for all kinds of magolor fans lol

austere willow
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honestly i dont get whythey added "different world"

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because uh

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its right there on popstar on nutty noon

granite cedar
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I think

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This is meant to be sort of surprise reveal?

craggy sable
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The timelines are converging as fortold

granite cedar
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By the time people reach that point in the game

austere willow
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i mean sure

granite cedar
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"like oh this is not right"

novel fog
austere willow
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but i still dont get why "this is some/different world"

leaden terrace
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to keep it ambiguous :)

granite cedar
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Also can be metaphorical way of saying

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Different world aka world of tomorrow lmao

wintry turtle
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Yeah when I saw it in nutty noon I was like "waddahell, that's cool tho"

craggy sable
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It's in world 5.5

granite cedar
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Anyway i will never live down the fact that manager magolor is from the future theory outlived PRETTY much all pre release forgotten land theories

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Like bros (including me) were truly onto nothing with this one

craggy sable
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Man that nintendo direct lied about Magolor Epilogue

leaden terrace
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they said something about magolor going to a realm between dimensions and yet were in another dimension. curious.

craggy sable
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They made it sound like you could do any level in any order... but then the actual game kinda forces you do everything in order anyways

austere willow
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they did not lie

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they said the SKILLS were any order you want

novel fog
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I think it was more talking about upgrades yeah

craggy sable
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Not only can't I read I also cannot listen

austere willow
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like very explicitly "the order in which you unlock his abilities is up to you" or along those lines

craggy sable
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Doh

leaden terrace
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you were missing one thing here

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the announcer isnt magolor

craggy sable
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I lied to myself

leaden terrace
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so they cant lie

craggy sable
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Dammit

ocean mauve
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epilogue speedruns are so fascinating because you really have to narrow down what the most important skills to upgrade are

craggy sable
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Dash

ocean mauve
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surprisingly they actually do upgrade health - one I assumed would be skipped lol

craggy sable
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Just dash

ocean mauve
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yeah dash is broken for sure

craggy sable
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(More health means less chance of game overing)

austere willow
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the thing about health is-yeah

craggy sable
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(Reminder that the upgrades just further expand your movset but does not increase actual attack power until far later on)

austere willow
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if u watched the GDQ of KSA

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they note that evne if youre playing mage sisters guest star

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if you dont collect the vitality/Green Hearts

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you may fuck up ur run by dying due to said health limitations

ocean mauve
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it makes sense - being able to take more hits lets you play more aggressively and ergo faster

austere willow
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and its very apparent during Morpho Knight EX because, EX

ocean mauve
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plus the first health upgrades for magolor are pretty cheap

granite cedar
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Thinking about everything this remake did it honestly does not feel real
I made this comparison pre release that it feels like a nintendo fanon wiki page but for real and i still stand by that

thin prairie
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What's the most common dream friend to Speedrun the game? Mages/magolor?

austere willow
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idk

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im not in that community

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Mages are fast because of Zan's dodge

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Magolor has surge

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so both would be fun to speedrun with i think

granite cedar
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I heard dark meta knight

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But that might be personal preference on that person's part

craggy sable
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How, they stole his shuttle loop

austere willow
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ya but Amazing Mirror levels are fun

leaden terrace
ocean mauve
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I remember prior to some of the dream friend updates the meta was fire meta knight (haha meta)

craggy sable
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Gotta be honest I do wish there be an extra world in the Epilogue

tepid pivot
craggy sable
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Just a little more something to make maxing out my stats not become a grind when I inevitably beat the final boss

tepid pivot
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speaking of dream friends , I had a fun time playing as them in star allies

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in fact they are probably what made SA fun and enjoyable for me

humble crest
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Ngl ||i wish you could use magolor in the story mode in the co-op after you complete that and the epilogue, just for fun||

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Wouldn't make any sense tho

unique gyro
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Remember the last time we got a big game remake like this?

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Kumazaki's directorial debut, KSSU

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Added lore, basically doubled the game content, and set precedent for all games that came afterwards in many ways

leaden terrace
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trueee..

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kumazaki always had it in him

granite cedar
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maybe not to such extremes though

thin prairie
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Kumazaki I kneel

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🧎‍♂️

granite cedar
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kumazaki is of course a chad but we shouldn't forget yutaka watanabe who is debuted as a director with this remake

thin prairie
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Wait yutaka directed rtdlx?

granite cedar
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yeah

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kumazaki is a general director

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and he helped planned out what will be included/changed and write text

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but yutaka directed the whole thing

thin prairie
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Oh ok
HAL is on a ROLL with these Kirby games
Actual golden age of the series

granite cedar
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kuma talked about how he wants to expand the number of directors within hal

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and honestly this might be a great decision

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he will be overseeing everything but more people will get to work on many projects

thin prairie
leaden terrace
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a part of me is kind of worried not knowing how that would go but at the same time im EXCITED

granite cedar
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yeah he talked about that in that infamous 2017 interview about how clash magolor is our magolor

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he's like

leaden terrace
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AH

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i mustve missed that completely

granite cedar
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"we are aware of many different fan requests regarding spin-offs like an rpg or a mobile game, but before we could pursue such projects i want to expand number of teams and directors within HAL"

solar harbor
granite cedar
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that's the thing

solar harbor
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So we can eventually add that to WiKirby

granite cedar
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we don't have the whole interview

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we have a page from it that someone took a photo of on twitter

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either ultrby or baro have it

solar harbor
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Nintendo DREAM right?

granite cedar
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yup

solar harbor
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Epic

leaden terrace
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like HOW would that even go

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what direction would they take

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how plot heavy is it gonna be

granite cedar
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i mean honestly

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we critique storytelling in modern kirbies

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but for a games of that genre and caliber

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they are fairly story heavy lol

thin prairie
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It's probably gonna be the third clash game

granite cedar
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so i can only imagine rpgs will push it further

austere willow
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honestly i expect something that has the same banter as Battle Royale

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especially if its new directors

granite cedar
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battle royale has no banter

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it has dedede whining about bs

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thing is that kuma still writes all (or most of) the text so lol

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he's like the de-facto main writer of the franchise now

austere willow
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i mean the whole point of Kuma even saying that is that he cant write everything

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he cant direct everything

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even if he oversees the project, like, Battle Royale still ended up existing

granite cedar
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battle royale is interesting because, while we have no confirmation on this because no one ever talked about it's development

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i don't think kuma really helped out with it at all?

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like in all other projects he oversaw he's credited first as a general director

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in battle royale he's credited at the very bottom

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even if he can't write everything he can give direction which is his job

austere willow
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exactly

granite cedar
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which is why i believe BR was like, a weird odd-ball exception

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i doubt they will ever talk about how the game came into being cuz its irrelevant and didn't impact anything but it fascinates me on this front

maiden crane
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BR will be remembered as "the game where sleep had a moveset"

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and not much else i think

granite cedar
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i dont think many people even remember that at this point

blissful yoke
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all i remember is like apple scramble and the apple juice song that came of it

ocean mauve
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I'd love for sleep to get a fighting moveset in another game

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at least it's useful in fl

maiden crane
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that is what BR should be remembered for

acoustic crescent
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wonder if ability upgrade from fl will still thing if sequel happens thinkinSoos

thin prairie
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I would rather have more abilities imo

ocean mauve
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ability evos feel like too good of a concept to get rid of

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I think the limited amount of abilities was so they could more tightly design levels around specific ones

thin prairie
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That's fair

ocean mauve
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and evos were a compromise to make the limited ability roster feel larger - which does make 'em feel a lot more interesting

thin prairie
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I would love if Hal polished up the ability evo system

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And won't make some of them slower for some reason

ocean mauve
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wild hammer was silly lol

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I would love to see new abilities and what evos they get. like parasol

thin prairie
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Beam as well

granite cedar
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there was this fan concept for water evolutions and they looked so cool

thin prairie
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Would you mind sharing them? deyes

celest grove
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...not that I will complain

austere willow
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its better than 1 dev team 1 game a year

celest grove
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The Kirby Battle Royale director is gone

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so that probably didn't help things

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and maybe this motivated Kumazaki's view on having more directors

austere willow
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and then RtDL DX arrives and makes the game be about ambition

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with Epilogue

leaden terrace
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oh TRUE

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u can literally see the differences between base game and epilogue

maiden forum
leaden terrace
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base game is simple not limited to anything just does whatever it wants while still keeping the story in mind halfway thru

austere willow
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nah the redemption is magolor specific

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i mean like

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Whole Game

granite cedar
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i think its not just ambition but friendship as well cuz thats what magolor learns to appreciate/learns what it really is

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further emphasizes with stuff like magoland

leaden terrace
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ya im just adding dw

maiden forum
austere willow
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I think for RtDL DX the themes are Ambition and Perserverance

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and then magolor adds Redemption

leaden terrace
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well technically pause descs too

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rly shows how much kirby has changed story wise

faint galleon
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Would it have been more terrifying for ||Magolor Soul EX to open its eye fully during the 2nd phase|| (true arena)

leaden terrace
thin prairie
leaden terrace
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i think the whole super ability gimmick also adds to it

leaden terrace
granite cedar
leaden terrace
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trueee

granite cedar
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i know i criticized the overuse of possession trope in recent years in this series but they finally made it really work with rtdl dx and forgotten land

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because they don't sugarcoat this shit anymore

leaden terrace
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TRUE

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||the fact that they made it that u dont just freely help ur friend break out of the possession really helps it sink deep||

maiden forum
austere willow
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idk looks like mint candy to me

granite cedar
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i think it looks better in stills than in motion in all honesty

maiden forum
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have a taste then

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it wont give you cancer i swear

granite cedar
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when its all dripping and and slimy it looks disgusting

blissful yoke
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i mean that's like the point isn't it

granite cedar
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im not one of these people who go "lmao kirby is actually super dark you guys" but this moment genuinely made me audibly go "what in the actual fuck" when i first played forgotten land

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i was COMPLETELY unspoiled i isolated myself from the world pretty much lol

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so i was like ???? ?!?!?!?

leaden terrace
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i like it when its gross and slimy i kinda vaguely wished theyd double down on it cus the fight was honestly underwhelming to me but... thats just the person i am LOL

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i love gross things

granite cedar
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they kinda count on you being so taken aback by the shock value that the fight itself is not too in depth

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its basically an interactive chase scene

leaden terrace
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true forgo itself is a lot of visual info at once

granite cedar
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honestly

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hot take maybe

maiden forum
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its also the only part of the game that actively lags

granite cedar
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but i feel like kirby would benefit from having boss fights that are PURELY for the story rather than for gameplay

leaden terrace
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TRUEEEEEE

granite cedar
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FL had more of those and it benefitted that game's storytelling a lot

leaden terrace
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I AGREE I AGREE

faint galleon
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Hmmm yea no I think the closed eyes is probably better

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leaden terrace
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UGGGHH

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UAGHHH

granite cedar
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oh

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oh no

leaden terrace
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horrifying

granite cedar
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yeah probably

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we've been spared

leaden terrace
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get it out here!!!

granite cedar
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not even zero and zero two had an eyeball this big

leaden terrace
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UGH IMAGINE IT IN MOTION

austere willow
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i could probably shoot at it with an arrow

leaden terrace
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AUGHHHEGHH

austere willow
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unfortunately no arrow kirby

blissful yoke
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use spear

faint galleon
leaden terrace
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wh

maiden crane
faint galleon
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Or something similar let me check

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No its just the angle I think

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But it looks like it is

leaden terrace
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id lose my MIND

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just when i thought soul couldnt be scarier it just... does

maiden crane
vapid kestrel
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Imagine pausing the game when there's an issue
Couldn't be me, a renowned streamer who has been doing this for years Kapar

acoustic crescent
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hi faye kirbyDoodle

leaden terrace
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it is true i ignore my computer failing because i was too busy dancing

acoustic crescent
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lmao

vapid kestrel
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Rule 11 of r/Kirby: You never know when there's a new emote or sticker vibecheck

faint galleon
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The Dark Heart that Magolor brought to hyness

thin prairie
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MagolorBehold Magolor escaped AD and went to a discord server

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Oh no now hes in double hell

vapid kestrel
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the idea is that you're supposed to jump into him to try and inhale all six orbs
Of course never mind trying to do that, I don't think a lot of people ever even realized they could

leaden terrace
storm cradle
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Did all the Magoland Missions, just gotta do the true arena

leaden terrace
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This Butterfly is Brown.

quartz skiff
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The rival in Kirby on the draw lv.3 are extremely fast they have a 1 second reaction time

storm cradle
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If I hate myself enough I’ll attempt to platinum the ability challenges

quartz skiff
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Can you# tell me how to get. 700 pts in lv 3 of Kirby on the draw

maiden crane
thin prairie
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I might be alone but I think I like the ordeal rooms more than the original ability challenges

quartz skiff
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Never mind

austere willow
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Bang

thin prairie
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Marx should be the last character with a gun

granite cedar
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amazing

austere willow
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** **MagolorBehold

thin prairie
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The best donut ever

austere willow
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how is holding such a giant donut

thin prairie
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Magic✨

granite cedar
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the same way he's holding ||the ultra sword in the end of epilogue||

thin prairie
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Bro opened the chest and got the dungeon item lol

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🏹
MagolorBehold 🗃️

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You got:the bow and arrow

magic gate
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first try level 3 9999.99'd crackity hack so probably that

thin prairie
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You don’t need perfection on the first meters, just close perfection. And you need to perfectly time the target

magic gate
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Oh I know, but it was perfect perfect timing

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as in all the meters did the glow when perfect

storm cradle
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It appears I have reached ||the maximum amount of Stamp Cards, which is 99||

humble crest
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Same

granite cedar
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yea they just ||repeat after that||

storm cradle
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||it still advances and gives me prizes, the number just caps at 99||

granite cedar
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im glad that they are essentially ||infinite at least||

humble crest
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Yup exactly

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So did anyone ||discover any other masks that got passive abilities like Kine and Mine ones?||

storm cradle
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||apparently it’s literally just them||

humble crest
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Sad

ruby narwhal
acoustic crescent
ruby narwhal
slender compass
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What do the Kine and Mine masks do

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Given they are fishies I assume something to do with swimming

acoustic crescent
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yep
allows you shoot double water cannon at underwater which is only possible with water ability normally

main fractal
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I realised something awful

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||Let's say you come across an evil tree...||

quartz skiff
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Tone trackers lv 3 18 pts

ruby narwhal
main fractal
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||By yourself you're in trouble!||

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||But if there were four of you! Four is better than one||

covert jasper
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the funny

storm cradle
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That they just implemented for a single mask

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For shits and giggles

vocal latch
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||I feel like one of the programmers was just a really big fan of Kine tbh||

acoustic crescent
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||i wonder if it's possible to add/remove custom properties on every masks via mods...thinkinSoos||

vapid kestrel
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lol, lmao even

main fractal
celest grove
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when I look at the clean role image it looks like an apple slice if you don't think about it

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eat your apples people

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word of bandeewanya

acoustic crescent
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thanks bandee bandeewanya

leaden terrace
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oh wait OOPS

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gigi already told u lol

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but its amazing either way

crimson lodge
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I BEAT THE TRUE ARENA WITH NO ABILITIES HOLY SHIT

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MY BODY IS FREAKING SHAKING RIGHT NOW.

quartz skiff
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How do I score 18 pts on magalor tone trackers

austere willow
flat pendant
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i just now realised why did HAL name drop the Kirby, Dedede, Meta Knight & Bandana Dee team name

quartz skiff
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Omg!!!

austere willow
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you Waddle Did it!

flat pendant
vocal latch
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In the Japanese version it's just "Kirby and friends" or whatever

austere willow
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why are you dmind now

vocal latch
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I have no idea

rustic ether
austere willow
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you could probably eat a plush

rustic ether
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Why is there no Zero merchandise?

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We don’t have enough merchandise of Kirby villains XD

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Gimme a Zero plushie lmao

austere willow
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that is a plushie

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this is a plushie donut

ruby narwhal
rustic ether
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That’s a plushie?

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You can have that? XD

flat pendant
austere willow
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but its not clear

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in jp theyre the Kirby Hunters

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in Clash

vocal latch
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yeah

austere willow
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You know what makes Crossing the Parallel with You such a good staff roll

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the fact that it doesn't just show memories

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but the future

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Between FL and M.Epilogue

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i hope its the new Thing™️ for Staff Rolls

vocal latch
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||What if Deluxe & Super Kirby Clash were in the same world but just with different Team Kirbys lol||

austere willow
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i mean isnt the issue with those 2 is the story not the player

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like. there's 4 kirby's

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in addition to ADVENTURER BELL

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its not gonna matter if theres more than 4 kirbies

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it gets weird when you think about the plot

quartz skiff
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I did it

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austere willow
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congratsulations!

vale river
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Nice

vocal latch
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||I mean, D-Mind was sealed in a distant dimension in TKCD, and the mirror gets destroyed, then Parallel Nightmare calls him from beyond dimensions/from another world with a Dimensional Tear||

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||The weirdest thing really was more-so Magolor & BWD not recognizing Kirby iirc||

austere willow
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again

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there's like 4 Kirby's + adventurers

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it doesnt really matter if Kirby is recognized or not because Kirby's not really unique in that world

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i mean who else does Magolor sell the products to

vocal latch
#

That's my point lol

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My point's that this "point of confusion" isn't really important due to the Kirbys in that world

vale river
vocal latch
#

Could be a similar-but-different universe too yea

vale river
#

Kind of interesting that there would be two gem apple trees

austere willow
#

i mean

vale river
#

Unless he just uproots the one lmao

austere willow
#

you just need to plant an apple with a sprout

vocal latch
austere willow
#

sounds easy enough

vale river
#

We don't know if multiples of those exist

austere willow
#

its a fruit

vocal latch
#

So it's just the same world but with a different Team Kirby, maybe? Idk why Magolor's Shoppe is back to 0

vale river
#

Clay this is a magic rock fruit

austere willow
#

trying to con more people

austere willow
vale river
#

We can't just assume for complete certain it acts exactly like an apple

#

You're right, it's possible

raven solstice
#

idk if i should spoiler this or not but judging from the final boss and end credits pictures of Epilouge, is the Master Crown actually deadzo or is it much deeper than that

vale river
#

I'd even be willing to agree it's likely if I thought about it more

austere willow
#

we have no information regarding the Master Crown's whereabouts

vale river
#

But you can't just assume it's true, that's not how it works

raven solstice
#

i mean i would assume it's deadzo, but idk

vale river
#

It's not like the gem apple sapling looked like a gem apple initially

austere willow
#

ya but if it was true it'd be as easy as saying "just plant another tree"

vale river
#

You're right

#

I just didn't want my point dismissed out of hand

#

It's what I wanted to talk about

vast vapor
#

second try woot

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vale river
#

Lesgo

vocal latch
#

Very nice

austere willow
#

wow so true

#

arena

raven solstice
#

round 21? there's 21 rounds??

leaden terrace
junior fiber
#

funny to imagine the ||master crown being in the clash verse stuck as the gem apple tree||

leaden terrace
austere willow
#

||thats not the crown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!||

leaden terrace
#
  1. BOSS ROUNDS.
austere willow
#

||THE CROWN POSSESSED THE TREE THE TREE IS NOT THE CROWN||

raven solstice
#

i'm gonna have so much fun playing True Arena

#

and i thought 3DX's was brutal

austere willow
#

i'd argue that its just as brutal

leaden terrace
#

||yeah the master crown is TOTALLY not in the tree||

vale river
#

||mistelinn is mistletoe and the crown is the "wreath" adorning the tree, which can be the gold wrapping around the base or the wicked wing leaves||

#

||if the gold... the gold is on the final tree||

junior fiber
vast vapor
austere willow
junior fiber
#

makes sense

vale river
#

I am going to

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Blow up into 3

vocal latch
proper spindle
#

I mean the gem apple tree does have those gold rings

leaden terrace
proper spindle
#

So maybe what’s left of the crown just fused with the tree

junior fiber
austere willow
#

why is there no wikirby page for the Specific dumb magic apple

leaden terrace
#

i dont think theres ANY ||part of the crown that latched onto the tree||

raven solstice
#

i haven't finished EX mode but i can only assume True Arena is literally every boss including Epilouge, which is greeeat because those bosses are annoying and will take forever

vocal latch
leaden terrace
#

||if it were true, magolor would have a bit of a crown with him too and as far as we know he most likely doesnt||

vast vapor
austere willow
#

it already has gold

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junior fiber
vast vapor
#

||I don’t think they were nearly as bad here though, especially rampaging doomers||

#

||they still suck though||

raven solstice
#

also it took me dying to funny tree boss in Epilouge to realize the anagram in it was APPLE

vale river
#

||The crown of desire holds
the dark cruelty of masters from
long ago. Twisted around a trunk
of magic bounty, it only seeks to
reign once again. Devoid of mind
or power, it exerts the only control
left to it-- in-game purchases!||

austere willow
#

Rampaging Doomers is Area Denial the boss its so fuckin funny

leaden terrace
vocal latch
leaden terrace
#

just to be safe

raven solstice
#

sorry'

#

lmao

leaden terrace
#

its ok

leaden terrace
raven solstice
#

||because the first 4 letters of the dimensions, plus Extra Stage spells out A P P L E||

proper spindle
#

Honestly when you look at the apple tree and Magolor soul they both have those weird gold tendrils wrapping around them

junior fiber
leaden terrace
#

magolor soul does not have golden anything

#

its all white

maiden forum
#

It's the crown

raven solstice
#

well yea the tendrils wrapping around is the Crown

vocal latch
leaden terrace
#

i would DIE painfully

vale river
#

Yeah but we're talking about the actual Clash tree

#

In Clash

#

It has golden tendrils around the base

proper spindle
#

^

vale river
#

Tendril is a fun word

maiden forum
#

That's very strong visual design especially on magolor soul

#

Where the crown literally has its claws wrapped around him

vale river
#

And that's why it's sussy that clash has it

leaden terrace
#

i mean do we even know if it connects

#

hey does anyone have the model

vocal latch
#

Which one

raven solstice
#

TKC?

leaden terrace
#

magolor i mean

#

phase 2 base magolor

proper spindle
#

Also isn’t the last we see of the crown before it latches onto the fruit literally just the shards and spooky shadow magic

vocal latch
leaden terrace
#

uhuh

raven solstice
#

hmm

vale river
#

Uhhuh

proper spindle
raven solstice
#

it's the exact same hue as funny tree

leaden terrace
junior fiber
#

me listening to this conversation

leaden terrace
#

||so its likely that it still survived egg's sword lol||

proper spindle
#

I think it’s just

#

Part of the tree now

austere willow
#

those are the crown claws

leaden terrace
#

yeah but i mean from the back

vocal latch
#

OH THAT

leaden terrace
#

directly from the crown to the wings

#

i know we have the claw sticking out at the back of traitor magolor's head

vale river
#

The Juggler

leaden terrace
#

so i wonder if they add onto that

austere willow
#

youre very fortunate

#

Faye has sent us Magolor Ass earlier

proper spindle
#

Would explain why gem apples can just heal stuff

leaden terrace
#

OH RIGHT

#

OKAY YEAH

#

YEAH I SEE NOW

maiden forum
#

Magoass

leaden terrace
#

so i guess following the simpler geometry here

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they connet

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c

#

ct

austere willow
#

in any case

#

that makes me wonder

raven solstice
#

||also pertaining to Epilouge, why the hell is it that int he opening cutscene it shows Magolor Soul dying instead of base, because if it were base then it'd make sense why the tree has yellow instead of silver, that was the first thing i noticed, and idk if it's a bug or if intentional||

austere willow
#

the Crown itself likes to grow

#

its described as a ||mistletoe||

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||the Fruit Fragments had a green coloration prior to fusing||

leaden terrace
proper spindle
#

Okay so hang on a sec

junior fiber
raven solstice
#

||so i'm lead to believe that Epilouge is supposed to pick up after Extra Mode & not Story Mode||

leaden terrace
#

idk

proper spindle
#

What’s the difference between story mode Magolor’s final phase and the Magolor soul from ex mode

#

Is only ex mode called Magolor soul

junior fiber
#

ex one is angrier

vale river
#

Presentation

leaden terrace
#

||i think its mostly story mode but magolor soul is canon||

vast vapor
austere willow
#

yeah like

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vale river
#

Oh you're a boss all right, just not an EX one

austere willow
#

Why is it green

junior fiber
#

green pomme

maiden forum
#

|| Considering how many thing change color I wouldn't look too far into magolor soul being silver to tree being back to gold. Also the crown is back to gold when it shatters ||

raven solstice
#

because it's not ripe yet

vale river
#

Unripe YaLikeJazz

leaden terrace
#

yes

austere willow
#

like yeah Ripe Apples arent green

leaden terrace
#

yesss

austere willow
#

but like

leaden terrace
#

I like where this is goin

austere willow
#

there's green flames and everything

leaden terrace
#

Go on

junior fiber
#

so where the yellow gem apple

covert jasper
vast vapor
#

you ever hear of granny smith apples

vale river
#

Gigi the mode is unbeatable now

vast vapor
#

my question is

junior fiber
#

nah gem apple would taste disgusting

vast vapor
#

why is it Blue

vale river
#

Gigi you cannot beat the game

austere willow
#

Like the Crown is described as a ||plant, a mistletoe|| so what if the Crown's ||source of power, the gem itself, is a parasitic gem plant||

vast vapor
#

Gigi eat all the fruit fragments

celest grove
proper spindle
#

The master crown is so weird to me

austere willow
#

WAIT

#

NOOOOOOOO

leaden terrace
#

huh?

junior fiber
austere willow
#

mfer reactioned with sectonia and made me realize someting stupid

vale river
#

I love instigating

covert jasper
celest grove
#

you do that just to force Warpstar Inc to open Kirby Café in Brazil

vale river
#

*Halcandra

covert jasper
#

same thing

#

but yes

austere willow
#

Hmm

proper spindle
#

Honestly I wonder if the apple tree and dreamstalk are related in some way

austere willow
#

i fele like Kumazaki's gonna expand more on the plants theming

#

i swear it

#

I actually swear it

vale river
#

He swears it

celest grove
#

looks at Malus Pumila

austere willow
#

YES the fruit but like

#

||Flavor text suggests that her transformation was supported through parasitic methods: Soul of Sectonia's Special Page in her second phase states that she "has fed off of countless hosts"||

covert jasper
leaden terrace
#

maybe thats what theyve been building up with since TDX...

...is taranza gonna be important again? :o

proper spindle
#

Both are mystical plants that get corrupted by the main antagonist before being released and becoming really pretty iconic parts of their world

austere willow
#

Additionally, in Kirby: Planet Robobot, Sectonia Clone's Special Page says that her DNA contains elements of creatures spanning a period of 1,000 years.

covert jasper
#

things that kirby teaches you:

  • butterflies cannot be trusted
  • plants are evil
vale river
#

Hm

celest grove
#

nature is shit

covert jasper
austere willow
#

like crack theory

leaden terrace
#

oh my fucking god

junior fiber
#

tf was sectonia doing eating creatures from 1000 years ago

vale river
#

Does this lead to the conclusion that the Ancients used some form of plant in their creations like the Dimension Mirror?

maiden forum
#

Idk if the plant and apple theming is just || as an allegory for sin in Christianity ||

austere willow
#

what if Sectonia, in her methods to become powerful and beautiful, became a mistletoe or something

celest grove
#

Does that mean Taranza is 1000 years old

austere willow
#

Like

vale river
faint galleon
junior fiber
#

im so full from ** **fossils

covert jasper
celest grove
#

or was Sectonia doing time traveling for some reason

vocal latch
austere willow
#

SDKJDSJJDSJKDSKJ

vale river
#

Pokécenter employee: sir you can't be back there get out right now
Me shoveling every Shieldon into my mouth as fast as possible:

covert jasper
leaden terrace
#

nkjdshfdjk0

vocal latch
#

Wait Sectonia also has swords thefear

maiden forum
#

Kuma def had this all planned out since gem apples though

#

What a guy

junior fiber
#

insane

celest grove
#

the bear thinks too much

proper spindle
#

Weird how the boss that corrupts a plant in the main dimension is just already dead in a dimension with another plant that also gets corrupted by a boss from the main dimension

covert jasper
faint galleon
vocal latch
#

yea

maiden forum
#

At the very least he had an idea for what actually happened to magolor

covert jasper
#

tbh swords in general are always important in fiction and kirby is no different

#

for sectonia I guess just a coincidence?

austere willow
#

more and more it feels more like Kumazaki has been taking steps to make everything connect

vocal latch
#

Obviously haha

#

I was just joking

austere willow
#

idk about the swords/rapiers but like

#

the plants vines thing

covert jasper
#

ah lol I can never tell with kirby lore speculation kirbwah

austere willow
#

the eyes and dark energy thing

vocal latch
#

Dw lol

austere willow
#

the ancients and technology thing

covert jasper
celest grove
#

Instead The World to Win (Soul ver.) will be named "Joronia"

austere willow
#

and his own contribution... Another Dimension

covert jasper
#

NO MORE KUMAZAKI VAGUEPOSTING (for most part)

faint galleon
#

Magolor went through a glow up

junior fiber
#

dripped out

maiden forum
#

Sectonia having rapiers is mote of an aesthetician thing since rapeirs are typically portrayed as elegant weapons

covert jasper
#

I cannot wait for the SA remake in 10 years that finally explains what the hell void is

leaden terrace
#

what if they suddenly explained void like the very next mainline game lol

maiden forum
#

Auto correctvyay

#

You are so unhelpful

covert jasper
vocal latch
#

The only time her rapiers/swords had significance was in MKR because Star Dream just summoned sword (or lance ig LOL) fighting characters

junior fiber
vocal latch
#

Galacta Knight when he doesn't use his lance like one

vocal latch
raven solstice
#

bro

celest grove
#

To be honest I would rather have them reinterpret the DMT

leaden terrace
junior fiber
#

the DMT is a fandom recognized thing but i hope they remake all of them fr

vocal latch
junior fiber
#

DL2 especially

celest grove
#

and by reinterpret I mean giving DL3 good controls and good level design

covert jasper
#

based

vocal latch
covert jasper
#

DL3 but epic

vocal latch
#

present tense.

maiden forum
#

DL3 but I don't wanna die

celest grove
#

(and I consider DL3 a remake of DL2 anyway)

junior fiber
#

dl3 was kind of a snooze fest ngl

raven solstice
#

eeeeh

leaden terrace
raven solstice
#

DL3 is weird

vocal latch
celest grove
#

I hate DL3's controls

junior fiber
#

i thought it was kinda boring

raven solstice
#

nah nah nah i hate SS's controls

vocal latch
#

WHY IS IT PRESENT TENSE

celest grove
#

Super Star's controls have aged but I can still play it

leaden terrace
#

maybe he just saw DMS one time

celest grove
#

meanwhile DL3's controls are... very much more aged than SS

leaden terrace
#

and he said "yo"
and DMs said "sup"

covert jasper
#

SA toyed with the idea of making dark matter related to other stuff more directly, it would be wild if they actually realized that in another game

vocal latch
dreamy canyon
#

hey spoilers rtdl deluxe thread howre we all today

covert jasper
#

like it's clear kumazaki wants to do that

celest grove
#

The only thing about Kirby that I wonder about is how much ambition they have for Kirby now

junior fiber
raven solstice
#

because in the NTSC-U version there's no way to get rid of abilities without making a helper and it doesn't sound like much but it makes the experience a huge slog, you can't just drop an ability, you have to make a helper, get rid of the helper, and inhale another enemy and or get a copy essense

celest grove
#

now that he actually gets way more attention than before

vocal latch
#

Amazing Mirror remake where Kumazaki gives lore to the four colored Kirbys Dark Meta Knight creates thefear

vocal latch
celest grove
#

The Kirby anime even sold out several times

junior fiber
vocal latch
raven solstice
#

it takes like 8 seconds compared to PAL regions, where the SELECT button can get rid of an ability instantly

celest grove
#

if there's a moment for Kirby to actually become more of a transmedia thing

#

it's now

#

it has the momentum for it

junior fiber
#

they shoud

#

make a new kirby anime

leaden terrace
#

alright HAL

#

where's the anime

junior fiber
#

spit balling

leaden terrace
#

right now.

#

HAL.

#

dont make me pull out the star rod.

celest grove
#

I totally think Kirby anime selling out was not planned by HAL

#

They didn't think it would happen

raven solstice
#

where. is. my. Right Back At Ya SEQUEL??

#

MAKE IT HAPPEN HAL!

leaden terrace
#

Make an anime thats actually faithful to the GAME CANON!!

junior fiber
#

if they make a new anime it should be game accurate 😡 😡

celest grove
#

I think HAL and Nintendo are noticing that Kirby is taken more seriously now

dreamy canyon
#

god i hope rbay doesnt get a sequel i swear to god

raven solstice
#

i'm already depressed Nintendo shut down like every reupload of it like 3 years ago

limpid edge
#

I don't want a fucking RBAY sequel

celest grove
#

and with the highest selling game in the series too

#

(also I don't want Kirby anime sequel I want a new one)

faint galleon
celest grove
#

no

leaden terrace
#

I should be seeing ANIME FOOTAGE ON TWITTER RN

#

CIRCULATING

limpid edge
#

I WANT A STORY DRIVEN KIRBY SHONEN WITH ALL OF THE DREAM FRIENDS

raven solstice
#

well Forgotten Land sold well at least partly because it was on the Switch

leaden terrace
#

I WANNA SEE ANIMATED TARANZA

#

well 2d animated

covert jasper
celest grove
#

Switch is one thing

covert jasper
#

SA was at 4 million by the end of 2021

celest grove
#

But FL reached a new public

junior fiber
celest grove
#

because it's 3D

covert jasper
#

it will easily also pass DL sales

vast vapor
#

forgot to do the challenge stages oops

IMG_5714.jpg
covert jasper
#

if it didn't yet

vast vapor
#

now I’m Done done

leaden terrace
#

👏 👏 👏

celest grove
#

There are people who only took Kirby seriously because FL was a 3D game

#

and those people don't give a shit about RTDX

#

or SA

covert jasper
#

morons

junior fiber
#

those guys are cringe

celest grove
#

Now I don't think they're a majority

tepid pivot
celest grove
#

but I think it's not a insignificant amount

leaden terrace
#

honestly that onyl makes me more excited for the future of kirby

celest grove
#

there's nothing more sad to a fan to see a game being ignored for stupid reasons

leaden terrace
#

if we actually get another anime... thats not only game accurate... but lives up to how the games make themselves to be

#

id LOVE it

celest grove
#

Though RTDX seems to be selling well

dreamy canyon
#

"ah kirby sucks because its 2d" hows about i pour mac and cheese down your ears until it starts flowing out your nose

celest grove
#

but no idea to what extent

faint galleon
covert jasper
leaden terrace
celest grove
#

and I had discussed here how I saw a review of someone saying RTDX is a bare minimum and is as lazy as other ports and I'm like

vocal latch
#

Some guy def said Planet Robobot is only good because of 3D Rumble

celest grove
#

UGH

covert jasper
granite cedar
covert jasper
#

so true

leaden terrace
#

I MEAN ITSTRUE

#

and shes a wasp so it FITS

dreamy canyon
vocal latch
slender compass
dreamy canyon
junior fiber
#

2 is cooler than 1 too

slender compass
#

its totally one of the best remasters in the gaming landscape

covert jasper
#

it's one thing to say "I prefer 3D games over 2D games"

it's another to say "2D games are bad"

the first is fine, the second you're clowning

celest grove
#

The entire review says the game is worth a 15/20, but keeps complaining it's the exact same game, and that they didn't pull a 3D World + Bowser's Fury thing (he thinks Magolor Epilogue is not comparable)

maiden forum
#

Secondary had better rapier technique then galacta knight has Lance technique

granite cedar
#

You know i love how kirby always swings into Extremes
You go "this is so cute", "this is so cool" or "this is so horrific"
This franchise doesn't hold back on any front lol

slender compass
#

compared this to remasters that barely added anything new and detracted from the original version due to rushed and improper replication and porting

junior fiber
#

GK cutting things with a lance like its a sword is chad behaviour

maiden forum
#

SECONDARY?!

leaden terrace
celest grove
#

in the sense that it's the exact same game, yeah, in a sense, yeah

granite cedar
#

Or even "this is so funny"

20230305_191357.jpg
celest grove
#

RTDX does bring you RTDL almost as is

#

experience wise

dreamy canyon
faint galleon
granite cedar
#

LITERALLY LMFAO

leaden terrace
#

WRKAWHEAWIHEWE

celest grove
#

instead the complaints I saw goes to "why isn't there new super abilities"

junior fiber
granite cedar
#

Actually there is even better image that examplifies what i mean

covert jasper
granite cedar
#

Let me find it

vast vapor
#

“this game sucks because it’s 2D” ok enjoy being wrong

junior fiber
#

they really live giving everyone a happy ending

maiden forum
#

Idk why people wanted vorpal Cutter so badly

vast vapor
#

2D does not equal bad

faint galleon
celest grove
#

some other complaints are a bit more legitimate like "why can't I play BWD or DDD in Extra mode"

vast vapor
#

that is true

leaden terrace
slender compass
#

not only is this game free of bugs, as HAL typically does, it added some new content

coarse flower
#

how to get the "a smash for a smash" mission

celest grove
#

"why no online in Magoland"

raven solstice
#

truthfully it would've been cool if the old Super Abilities that weren't used came back, but idk i'm fine with no new ones if the new animations are amazing

quartz skiff
#

How do I get gold on 3-boss

faint galleon
#

Also true

slender compass
#

sure there are complaints

junior fiber
maiden forum
#

Extra mode would been so fun if player 1 could character switch at any time

celest grove
#

like, the review has some legitimate criticisms, but puts it all in the same banner of "lazy port"

coarse flower
#

what review

slender compass
#

but honestly this is worth the price

celest grove
#

(and then Metroid Prime Remastered gets considered the best port even though it's the exact same fucking game)

coarse flower
#

WHAT REVIEW

raven solstice
#

people that claim RtDL DX is a "lazy port" clearly have never played it or seen it in person before

celest grove
#

RTDX review

junior fiber
#

when people say its not worth the price i just get confused because like what do you expect from remakes

celest grove
#

in french, it's a YT vid

vocal latch
coarse flower
granite cedar
#

If those two pieces of trivia being next to each other doesn't tell enough what kind of series Kirby is, idk what will

Screenshot_20230305_191554_Chrome.png
maiden forum
#

Is it just a guy or a review outlet

celest grove
#

note not everyone said this

vast vapor
#

people call the game lazy because it didn’t have everything they want but then the game is updated with new content which means the game is unfinished and therefore bad

leaden terrace
vast vapor
#

morton’s fork

vocal latch
vast vapor
maiden forum
#

Rtdl is a game that doesn't need sweeping changes

#

It's no crash bandicoot

pliant socket
faint galleon
coarse flower
thorny shard
maiden forum
#

I do think people overstate the creepy or allegorical parts of Kirby

thorny shard
#

...except for the grand doomer

junior fiber
#

common HAL L rtdx sucks sleeper

maiden forum
#

It's 80% cute bullshit

leaden terrace
#

grand doomer's banned

junior fiber
maiden forum
#

15% polyester

#

5% fucked up

dreamy canyon
leaden terrace
#

be a bitch

dreamy canyon
#

how..

leaden terrace
#

eat shit

vocal latch
#

Grand Doomer is banned from Merry Magoland.

raven solstice
#

there's no middle ground with some fans, they're like "oh man this game isn't the new SSU, therefore it's bad" but if there's DLC or an update it's "wow they had to update this? bad game, came out too early"

faint galleon
leaden terrace
coarse flower
leaden terrace
pliant socket
vocal latch
dreamy canyon
limpid edge
vocal latch
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i was surprised there was no Scope Shot, but i didn't love it either

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Is this a no-brainer

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fandom 🤢

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Fandom 🤮

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not just the kirby fandom but fandom in general is just SO bad

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yeah i hate that site

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I honestly don't get why people dislike the remake and think it is not worth the price

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too bad some of my fave wikis had to be there

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Why is Magolor called Maglor in spanish

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idk

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o erasure

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this is by no means an atlus remaster

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who's on the magoland ban list? serious question

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nightmare is for sure banned

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Kill me, but this is like the only fandom where I slightly prefer the Fandom Wiki. It's extremely informative in parts where WiKirby gives no information, and also it doesn't disregard any information that's not 100% set in stone

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so use wikirby

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no ads

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or maybe no ads that i see

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cus i use adblock

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I'm not calling Nintendo a bunch of saints but it still stands

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sure nintendo had been unbased for a bit

thin prairie
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but HAL is not even Nintendo

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Who actually said that

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its a child company

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and its not GF either

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!?!?!?!? CLASH TARANZA BANNED

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what does this mean

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Like, the fandom wiki actually goes into detail about Flamberge and Francisca's relationship, which makes it so much easier to explain to someone who doesn't know about it. Meanwhile it isn't even MENTIONED in WiKirby

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dark matter hella banned

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# leaden terrace !?!?!?!? CLASH TARANZA BANNED

https://twitter.com/Kirby_JP/status/1216918055038488576/

星のカービィ (@Kirby_JP)

チョット聞いてヨォ！オカッパ頭のタランザが、みなとまちにやってきたンダ！
ドコにいると思ウ？ボクのお店の屋根に居座ってるンダヨ！ボクのよろずやにホレボレしちゃうのはわかるケド、別の場所にしてほしいナァ。
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Parallel Susie/Pres. Parallel Susie is also banned.

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like Magolor

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Ah yes, the Three Mage Sister, such unimportant side characters 🙄

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🤷

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At least we have verified info

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the disrespect 😭

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anyone can edit wikirby you know

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Sh

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if you feel something is missing from wikirby, you are free to add it

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Actually I just commented again on that review video's comments to talk about how everyone thinks Metroid Prime Remastered is good (including that channel) but for some reason, Kirby RTDX isn't as good just because there's not enough new content, I'm like... meh

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wikirby prefers to deal with facts than speculation

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also wikirby has music pages