[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

[maiden forum]

weird how they just wouldnt use the word karma

cause payback implies they want it personally

[tawdry mulch]

Not necessarily I guess it's like payback on a universal scale lmfao

[vast vapor]

wish me luck

[tawdry mulch]

Like the world is getting revenge on him by having this stupid ass bird appear to steal his shit

[burnt marsh]

hi

is streaming rtdl dx allowed, or not because of the spoiler policy?

[maiden forum]

either interpretation works

really its just if the ||doomers were in it to get magolor personally or just following the crowns orders or both||

[woven summit]

Ok so I beat the epilog was there a cutsceen if I sat through the credits?

[junior mesa]

||was the "big boss" supposed to be the crown?||

||the pause descs talked about the bosses following orders||

[tawdry mulch]

||big boss is Grand Doomer but the crown is using him basically||

[junior mesa]

hm...

[tawdry mulch]

||that's why they mention in the Rampaging Doomer description that we already met the boss of all doomers. Crowned Doomer is just straight up Grand Doomer||

||They say that THE boss of all doomers has become a black winged subjugator powered by the shards of the crown. So it's just him the bastard is back||

[vapid kestrel]

||It's SO fucking weird all the Epilogue bosses have like gear themes to them and there's 0 explanation to it||

[novel fog]

well it is in Japanese

||meanwhile English just decided to use payback lol||

[junior mesa]

||maybe it's like
"oo because they had contact with the ship parts in main mode their counterparts are influenced" or smthn||

[vapid kestrel]

||But the ME bosses have no actual relationship with the enemies from the main mode as far as we know||

[novel fog]

||I'm sure they'll reveal why eventually in an obscure interview or some shit||

[junior mesa]

||I do think it's possible that the ME bosses could hold some weird AD correlation akin to the parallel bosses in HiAD, even if it's not directly stated
I'm not saying it's canon or anything, just a possibility until we get the inevitable niche interview lol||

[vapid kestrel]

[novel fog]

||could also be in the guidebook whenever we eventually get one, or maybe even something like Twitter lol||

[brave crag]

||I mean doomers really like gear and they all serve Grand Doomer, so I guess that?
The real question is why they resemble the main game bosses when they aren't related to them.||

[maiden forum]

translators use some creative liberties challenge

[lost briar]

personally I think ||the Doomers specifically were after the fruit fragments because of the life energy they contain||

||the crown was just latched to its host, but then the crowned doomer disappeared after being defeated so it latches to the fruit as the closest thing||

[vocal latch]

||Their elements are kinda related to the Doomers too lol||

[wintry turtle]

Or they just || wanted them because they were yummy ||

[brazen drift]

hey what’s the topic of discussion today

[tawdry mulch]

||Cause they're in some of Halcandras ruins and those mfs love gears||

||as for why they're pop star bosses for me it goes with my theory about Clash happening on Halcandra in the past. Them being pop star dudes makes perfect sense if it's AU Pop star and them having SKC's elemental gimmick lines up with that too||

||We'll have to see if that's the answer but seems like the clearest thing to me (cause I'm biased towards my own interpretation teehee)||

[vast vapor]

I almost got first try oh my god

that ||upgraded magolor soul|| is terrifying

[junior mesa]

yeah, it isn't that bad overall
||I had the benefit of having seen Magolor Soul beforehand||

[faint galleon]

Oh shit Meteorz streams the True Arena Tonight

[vast vapor]

still better than robobot

[junior mesa]

yeah, this one does feel harder than PRB (at least for me)

[vocal latch]

||https://twitter.com/soyoko_625/status/1468188727654891520||

[coarse flower]

me when ||magolor soul ex uses super abilities that don't exist||

[novel fog]

||yeah I remember seeing that chart, it is nice||

[vast vapor]

||here come the mecha beams!||

[junior mesa]

||I still wish that the new super abilities at least had a different colour scheme to match Magolor Soul whipping out the Mecha lasers doesn't look as natural to me||

[tawdry mulch]

||You know I didn't really think about it before but it's pretty interesting how they took the effort to make the Dimension Mirror not be the same in Clash, having it be a different mirror even though it serves the same function, but the Crown is the same. How suspicious ||

[lime acorn]

||Greater Doomer!? Didn't know it exists||

[tawdry mulch]

Who was the guy that was so miffed about leaving his other mirror that they had to make another one with the exact same problem what a jerk

[lime acorn]

||I think I missed one lol||

[solar harbor]

Huh? I thought Meteorz was gone

I guess after all, Manager Magolor was a wake-up call

[tawdry mulch]

Meteorz was gone then a Kirby game came out

[vast vapor]

he came back?

[tawdry mulch]

I think he said on Twitter he's gonna do canon videos on a per game basis or something

[vast vapor]

well I guess to be fair you can’t just not report on ||clash being canon to the series||

[tawdry mulch]

He's still active on the internet just not really active on YouTube content

Rtdx he just kinda has too cause it came out so soon after he left lmao

[idle sapphire]

ME (Meteor Epilogue )

[junior fiber]

meteorz bringing himself back to life every time a game comes out

[tawdry mulch]

Yeah he did say if he does upload it will not be frequently

So he will probably make a video for new games if they have important stuff like this one

[odd rover]

https://tenor.com/view/undertaker-coffin-just-woke-up-wwe-gif-5289384

[junior fiber]

march 14th 2025 colourized

[tawdry mulch]

Now we need more Kirby lore enthusiasts and theorizers on the scene there are like 2 people who do this

[idle sapphire]

Like 2 good ones

[tawdry mulch]

Actually one it's kinda just rpg monger

[junior fiber]

rpg monger and meteorz

yeah

[tawdry mulch]

And he doesn't make frequent videos lmao

[junior fiber]

we NEED more kirby content creators!!!

[tawdry mulch]

Cause its just a hobby

[odd rover]

Remember when that Fromsoft youtuber tackled Fecto Forgo and did a little misinformation spreading

[tawdry mulch]

Hey theyre trying

[idle sapphire]

No I do not

[odd rover]

https://youtu.be/Vb-koXgLi8U

[solar harbor]

Huh

[tawdry mulch]

Tbh I don't think anyone should solely get their info from youtubers anyways tbhhh it's good for ideas though

[solar harbor]

Never watched the video but can anyone explain the misinfo

[odd rover]

Fecto Elfilis = Void

[idle sapphire]

Ew

[junior fiber]

no way lmao

[vast vapor]

lol

lmao

[solar harbor]

[swift oracle]

i think ive seen that

that's

[odd rover]

18 minutes of that

[swift oracle]

so silly <333

[junior fiber]

how

[leaden terrace]

Lol

[solar harbor]

Not everything has to be about Void what the fuck lmao

[junior mesa]

does he actually say that

[idle sapphire]

Must have saw the Profisia thumbnail and Called it a day.

[tawdry mulch]

Me when I see someones interpretation I don't agree with grrrghhh so angry will smash

[junior fiber]

that thumbnail went hard

[odd rover]

Literally a minute in

[junior mesa]

oml

[vocal latch]

Lol i remember they also state Fecto derived from infect instead of perfect

[solar harbor]

That was fucking funny because it isn't even Void at all

[odd rover]

As soon as I knew where it was going I clicked off

[leaden terrace]

LOLLLLLL

[idle sapphire]

Me when I’m allowed to find something a bit silly

[solar harbor]

I mean it's somewhat correct, but it does not explain Fecto Elfilis' name lol

[vocal latch]

But when does ID-F86 specifically relate to infecting?

[tawdry mulch]

Animals

[solar harbor]

The closest would be possessing Leongar?

[vocal latch]

Like, it's the perfect lifeform lol

[odd rover]

Beast virus theory (circa pre-FL)

[junior mesa]

bruh

[solar harbor]

IT'S CALLED SPECIES BORN OF CHAOS SMH

[junior fiber]

no wayyy whaat yooo 🤯

[swift oracle]

so insane and wild

[vast vapor]

chaos???

[junior mesa]

chaos control

[vast vapor]

like… essence of chaos???

[solar harbor]

Wait guys the Chaos Emeralds are related to Void Soul

[junior fiber]

i bet the replies aren't so nice

[solar harbor]

TRUST ME IM INFORMATIONAL AND NOT A LIAR WIZARD LOL

[odd rover]

I’m gonna watch the whole video and do a live reaction

[vocal latch]

Elfilis went from Fecto to Chaos

Perfect Chaos

[tawdry mulch]

Perhaps this is why noone makes theory videos lmfao

If they don't align with general consensus the world ends

[swift oracle]

silly

[leaden terrace]

This is the real kinda shit

[odd rover]

Dream Land spelled as Dreamland smh

[idle sapphire]

Only Kirby fans will see the number 86 and yiik out

[junior mesa]

most of the replies are supporting it lol

[odd rover]

“The dog like enemies” THEY’RE CALLED AWOOFIES GRAHAHAHA

[leaden terrace]

Only Kirby fans will see a butterfly and scream

[solar harbor]

Ouuuch

[solar harbor]

Oh come on, they should read the Figures

Or consult WiKirby next time

[vast vapor]

spongebob fans:

[odd rover]

He names Primal Awoofy so WHY DID HE CALL THE NORMAL ONES JUST DOGS

[junior mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-star-allies-gif-12213097

[vast vapor]

the dogs from kirby

[swift oracle]

smiles

[odd rover]

This image is so perfectly cut

[swift oracle]

dog is my favorite kirby character‼‼‼

[solar harbor]

[solar harbor]

NO

that's cursed

[lost briar]

people who think Fecto means infecting must think Magolor's name comes from Magnets

[odd rover]

The entire Lab Discovera intro is playing

[solar harbor]

What if Death from Puss in Boots and Morpho Knight swapped places tho

[odd rover]

Me when I stick to Magolor

[junior fiber]

morpho would say nothing the whole time

motive not revealed

they reveal his character in a press conference or something

[leaden terrace]

IMO Elfilis is not Void but Elfilis simply came from the same place of origin as Void and the rest which is why there's a lot of association

[idle sapphire]

Sectonia’s Name comes from section

[leaden terrace]

I at least made sure I won't rant about that again lol

[junior fiber]

what did kumazaki mean by this?

[leaden terrace]

Wtf!

[odd rover]

86 pun explained

[solar harbor]

[novel fog]

nah, I don't think they come from same place either
there's not too much association with each other besides like Chaos Elfilis stuff

[junior mesa]

^

[ruby narwhal]

Finally, someone who shares my pain

[junior mesa]

him being circle =/= void

him being circle = every soul boss ever

[ruby narwhal]

Original video from skyguys btw

[swift oracle]

i hated those guys sm

[idle sapphire]

Those are some angr-

[odd rover]

“Lay-ongar”

[novel fog]

base Fecto Elfilis is pretty different and does not share much

[solar harbor]

They almost tided me over in my blind Magolor Epilogue playthrough if that helps

But now I platinum'd them first try after I came back to them (MAGOLOR SURGE IS OP)

[leaden terrace]

Not wrong but something told me Elfilis had a little more in common with them
Plus I liked the idea that theres a lot of wildly different results of what comes out of the origin

[novel fog]

I mean
Void can already become anything so like

[odd rover]

Now he’s talking about RTDL

[novel fog]

why would there need to be another

[odd rover]

JUST TALK ABOUT ID-F86 GRAHAHA

[leaden terrace]

To be fair Void is already like fucked up there lol. He was about to be birthed and can't seem to decide what he is

[junior mesa]

this is why i simply don't watch kirby lore videos

[leaden terrace]

Same

[junior mesa]

because so much of it is
either overexaggerating or making up stuff

[swift oracle]

he mentions kirby being void 😱

[junior mesa]

that just confuses people

[tawdry mulch]

Idk I find lore videos fun cause I like seeing other people's ideas

[leaden terrace]

People try to do some insane mental exercises just to make a point that would only provoke others

[odd rover]

“World of dreams” HE SAID LAND OF DREAMS

[swift oracle]

n that friend hearts r a thing he can do on his own

[solar harbor]

The first thing he sees, he imitates

Like a baby

[leaden terrace]

Yep

[solar harbor]

So Void isn't related to Kirby, obviously

[leaden terrace]

That's true for sure

[swift oracle]

what a silly creature

[junior mesa]

yeah but then there are the popular videos that are suddenly taken as canon

[novel fog]

I only really look at some of the JP ones (though most of the time it is just basic overviews of characters, locations, etc. and possible connections)
I ain't touching any of the English ones lol

[leaden terrace]

I avoid calling them related at all cost

[junior mesa]

or others that go "kirby's faster than the speed of light bc he outran black hole attack"

[solar harbor]

Though I kinda wish Void imitated the looks of other characters like Dedede and Meta Knight when fighting as a Dream Friend in Ultimate Choice

That'll be fucking funny too

[vocal latch]

https://twitter.com/kusa6sora/status/1083774605485993984?t=ctvZO93KWU4RjzDzwQ-oDA&s=19

草ッチ🐙🐟️ (@kusa6sora)

星のカービィ　スターアライズより、カービィ・マルク・マホロア・タランザ・ニル…悪い連中ばっかりだな
ニル尊い
マホロア描くの難しすぎてノーブラボーだわ

Twitter · Jan 11, 2019, 5:16 PM

[odd rover]

Infect + Forgotten = Fecto Forgo wow

[leaden terrace]

WOAH baby

[tawdry mulch]

Lol lmao I say as I still don't see how this makes Void Kirby moot

[solar harbor]

CROWNED MAGOLOR FACE

[swift oracle]

ahhh i love that art 🙏

[odd rover]

I wish Void copied other characters so mfs could think they’re Void

[junior fiber]

i need more void mimicking faces

[solar harbor]

Marx face on Void wouldn't be a stretch lmao

BUT IMAGINE VOID IMITATING SUSIE UAKFELFLDKSLSLDSKX

[junior fiber]

he could probably do it for almost every character

[hexed current]

What if the only other character it copied was Como. That would lead to funny theories

[vocal latch]

Void imitating Meta Knight would require a lot of effort

[junior fiber]

uhhh he could shape his mouth into the mask

[leaden terrace]

Oh no! Geometric shapes

[junior fiber]

eyes roll back

[ruby narwhal]

Void mimicking coo I want an excuse to see more owls

[swift oracle]

or just magically copy his actual face

[junior fiber]

probably this

[vocal latch]

(it'd look the exact same)

[odd rover]

“Opens a rift to Dream Land” IT’S POPSTAR

[junior fiber]

THE PLANET IS CALLED POPSTAR

[odd rover]

Oh he immediately said Popstar afterwards nvm

[junior fiber]

peace

[novel fog]

I mean, it doesn't just have to use the holes

[tawdry mulch]

I think the Void copying other characters faces HC is cute but I'll never understand why that is used to say Void Kirby is disproven tbh

[junior mesa]

wdym guys he already imitates meta knight
he just reflected the true man beneath the mask

[odd rover]

God the first like 11 minutes so far is just an FL recap

[vocal latch]

My joke was that it'd have the same face as it does now with imitating Kirby's face LOL

[faint galleon]

Because it severs the main thing that ties Kirby to void

[leaden terrace]

Same reason why people used it as evidence that Void is Kirby

[novel fog]

I mean Void can become anything
so it might as well be related to everything or nothing if anything

[tawdry mulch]

It's just funny cause if the face thing was even real then why doesnt he do it against the dream friends or something

[junior fiber]

i like to think void's normal face is this

[faint galleon]

Programming restrictions

[novel fog]

oh lol

[tawdry mulch]

They made custom songs for them that they could have just slapped on the Void fight if that was there intention lmfao

[junior fiber]

or something like that

[odd rover]

Star Conquering Traveler movement 1 is playing oh no bro

[novel fog]

would you make over 40 different boss fights each of the different characters?

[leaden terrace]

I mean I'm p sure that's the case

[tawdry mulch]

People say this but there's never even been a hint that they even intended to do this

[junior fiber]

or just no face

[junior mesa]

I mean... we know that he mimics whatever he sees first
i sorta feel the [void "felt something" because they're related] rebuttal as already being under the assumption that they're directly related
when, if we know that void copies traits, the similarities are just kind of... explained already?

[junior fiber]

pure jawbreaker

[tawdry mulch]

So I dont get it

[novel fog]

even just Dream Friends is more than 12

[faint galleon]

What is this supposed to mean

[vocal latch]

Also isn't the "felt something" just related to it gaining feelings, they also mention it in the pause screens

[odd rover]

Hold on this could be a meme

[leaden terrace]

Kumazaki straight up said that Void mimicked Kirby, so surely there's an intention

[vocal latch]

そして今、何かを感じ、ねがい、考えた・・・
ニルの中で、たましいが やどろうとしているっ！
And now, it feels something, it wishes, it thinks…
Within Nil, a soul dwells!

[leaden terrace]

Yeah

[vocal latch]

その ねむりの中でニルは はじめて、心から思った・・・
目の前のてきを、めっせねば とっ！
Within their slumber, Nil, for the very first time, felt from the bottom of their heart…
The enemy before my eyes, I must destroy it!

[tawdry mulch]

The whole Void face thing hinges on the fact that Void Soul and AB Void were supposed to make different faces but they didn't have time to do that when theyve never said that lmao

[ruby narwhal]

KSA devs making a different void face for every single helper and dream friend while already under strict crunch:

[novel fog]

yeah
and they said or hinted other times that it can become anything and is that it is influenced and dyed by who it first sees

[vocal latch]

Plus the same interview they mentioned how Hyness knew this legend

and tried to be the first to see Void

[junior mesa]

^

[novel fog]

and it is hinted towards that ingame too iirc

[junior fiber]

we lost void with dedede's face

[tawdry mulch]

Cause he wanted it to be dark and evil not cause he wanted Hyness 2

[novel fog]

at least that he knows it is influenced by who awakens it and stuff

[vocal latch]

They'd all end-up making Ishikawa-style photos 😭

[vocal latch]

But it's in regard of the face too?

[faint galleon]

And of course let's not forget

Funny Niru

[novel fog]

sort of same thing, isn't it?

Hyness was already dark and evil

[faint galleon]

Exactly

[tawdry mulch]

No lmao. Theres multiple ways you could interpret this interview I just find it annoying that we are only accepting one interpretation of it that in my opinion doesn't really line up

[faint galleon]

Also how freaky would Void with Hyness's face be...imagine the fucking ring eyes, yeech

[novel fog]

but it isn't just the interview?????

they've said it literally everywhere

[odd rover]

God this shit isn’t sending

[swift oracle]

so silly

[tawdry mulch]

The face thing no lmfao thats an interpretation they did not say "Hyness wants to see squidward" they side "Hyness knew Voids nature so he wanted to be the first to see it"

[junior fiber]

mfs pulling out receipts out of nowhere how do you guys always have these on hand

[tawdry mulch]

Which can mean he wanted to influence it to be a being of darkness like he envisioned for it

[junior mesa]

i have a private discord that i paste every lore thing i find in

[novel fog]

for example (https://www.hallab.co.jp/blog/detail/3296/)
私は主にカービィと、無であるからこそ様々なモノに染まり、似る…そんな個性のあの子を描かせていただきました。
この記事に添えた写真はその時の様子になります。
"I mainly drew Kirby, and that child with such a personality who, because it is nothing, is dyed by and resembles various things...."

[junior mesa]

because i can't keep track if i don't

[ruby narwhal]

Also, a bit off topic but, is there any evidence that crowned doomer was actually full on controlled by the crown as he only absorbed broken fragments of it to boost his power instead of putting it on normally

[faint galleon]

Things heating up in the Kirby lore council

[vocal latch]

I memorize when it was last posted

Keywords help

[tawdry mulch]

Idk I'm scared

[novel fog]

I have Void (Termina) documents I never finished

[leaden terrace]

I'm just watching keenly

[junior mesa]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/182899928140480512/995088280825626694/caption-50.gif

[leaden terrace]

Reading everything you guys say

[main fractal]

quick eat the evidence

[novel fog]

I never even finished the appearance or attack sections lmao
have no idea what I'm gonna do for ingame text stuff

like I might as well just translate entirely of Star Allies
hell do I do Jambastion document too or what

[tawdry mulch]

void is pretty cool i think

[novel fog]

yeah
it's sort of like a living creation myth

[ruby narwhal]

Jawbreaker lookin’ ass

[tawdry mulch]

big bang in the real

[leaden terrace]

Really love the idea that he's everything but also nothing at the same time

[tawdry mulch]

i do wonder if hes like the origin of the copy ability

[junior fiber]

absorbing void would give you the Copy copy ability

[tawdry mulch]

i think about that one attack where he shits out like a million little stars that all can give different abilities

[austere willow]

isnt that called a song

[junior mesa]

big bang (creator of the origin)

[tawdry mulch]

sheldon the true ancestor of origin

[novel fog]

doubt it
at least I think it would be from something more specific

[leaden terrace]

My brain would melt beyond threshold if they explain copy abilities so I'd rather not

[austere willow]

in any case i dont think kumazaki's part of the kirby lore is 'up to interpretation' anymore like. RtDL DX literally just answered shit and who knows what else would be answered eventually

[tawdry mulch]

well Void is THE guy who takes after other guys so makes sense the ability to copy others power would come from him

[odd rover]

What if Void is like the Yaldabouth/Demiurge where it did create everything but there’s a higher, omnipotent power in reality

[leaden terrace]

Yea that's v true

[junior fiber]

ancients!!

[leaden terrace]

Kumazaki really changed his approach to lore

And we'll be guessing less and less over time

[junior fiber]

that what happens when you cook for 10 years

the meal is almost ready

[tawdry mulch]

if this is referring to the void thing he does literally preface that response by saying its supposed to be something to think about lmfao hes basically asking you the reader to digest the information for yourself and make your own conclusion as to what it all means

[austere willow]

ya thats why we call em headcanons™️

[tawdry mulch]

true and thats why we should not tote it around like the Void Kirby killer when its supposed to be something for people to think about themselves

if they think its the assasain of void kirby then sure thats fine lmao

but its purpose is to explain what is going on so that we can find meaning in it

[novel fog]

the other ones don't have that preface though

so no matter what you think about that interview being canon or not, it does not apply to the other stuff

and it is clear that Void (Termina) was not intended to be related to Kirby

[tawdry mulch]

have yet to see other stuff that says "Kirby is not Void he is mr scrunkly bunkly also Void is me Kumazaki my self insert im the god of this world btw" so idk

i would like to know if void is kumazakis self insert however

[austere willow]

im pretty sure kumazaki's self insert is magolor

[junior fiber]

that says a lot about society

[austere willow]

no question

[tawdry mulch]

that makes a lot of sense

he does just time hop into everything

[odd rover]

GOD FINALLY

Why is this almost 21 mb

[tawdry mulch]

.mov

[novel fog]

I mean, people already posted stuff here from the artbook and HAL Blog
saying that it is nothing and can become anything

[odd rover]

AND WHY IS IT A FUCKING FILE FUCK

[junior fiber]

the .mov

was sealed for its power was too great

[austere willow]

ampether will not stop until he gets a straight answer

which could probably be like

10 years from now

so idc

[tawdry mulch]

TRUE

[austere willow]

just say its a headcanon

[junior fiber]

in a nintendo dream article

[odd rover]

I HATE KAPWING I HATE KAPWING I HATE KAPWING I HATE KAPWING I HATE KAPWING I HATE KAPWING

[tawdry mulch]

its a theory how how how

[odd rover]

I’m converting and compressing it

[rustic trellis]

the four heros sealed your meme away for being too terrifying of a power

[tawdry mulch]

spreading hilarity throughout the cosmos

[novel fog]

I will also post this part of that Soundtrack-related interview (https://www.hallab.co.jp/products/201801/)
熊崎
声優さんだけでなく、ゲームを理解している開発スタッフの声を活かしたボイスもあります。その１つにエンデ・ニルの最終形態、つまり第４形態のときの声みたいなものですが、あれはエンデ・ニル自体が何者にでもなれる摩訶不思議な存在、とされてきたものなので誰か１人の声ではない「様々な声を入れよう」としたこと、覚えていますか？
something like
"Kumazaki: In addition to the voice actors, there are also voices that are created using the voices of development staff who understand the game. One such example is the voice of Ende Niru in its final form, or fourth form. Remember that Ende Niru itself is a mysterious being that can become anyone, so we tried to “include a variety of voices”, not just one voice?"

[tawdry mulch]

it had to be stopped

[junior fiber]

it may destroy a planet or two, but such is life

[tawdry mulch]

kirby can also become anyone through the magic of copy ability therefore he is void the case is closed mic drop crowd cheers flowers thrown on stage

[junior fiber]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/182899928140480512/1081706330722672801/jumpscared.gif

[novel fog]

if that is the case, why haven't we seen him become a Waddle Dee

[odd rover]

The hope it uploads

YES

NO

[novel fog]

where is Waddle Dee Kirby

[tawdry mulch]

because waddle dee is too boring he doesnt want to be waddle dee

[odd rover]

WHERE IS THE SOUND

[rustic trellis]

counterpoint: Void is to thicc to be copied without hypernova, and kirby cannot copy abilities with hypernova

[junior fiber]

what did kumazaki mean by this

[tawdry mulch]

how he should eat the monkey waddle dees and become monkey

kumazakis greatest oversight

[tawdry mulch]

i have been defeated

[junior mesa]

i am genuinely curious though
is there any relation to kirby being void beyond copy ability?
(not meant to be aggressive, i just don't know what else there is after mimicry)

[leaden terrace]

Not that we know of

[novel fog]

I mean lot of characters have mimicry going on, not just Void and Kirby

there's also Gooey, Miracle Matter, maybe Magolor phase 2/Soul, etc.

[austere willow]

when did this become olympic gymnastics

[tawdry mulch]

well to go beyond Void since im sure everyone has read all that shit we all kind of just accept that Dark Matter dudes come from Void and theyve already drawn a few lines between Kirby and them with Miracle Matter using copy abilities and Gooey just is kirby hes fucking kirby dark matter wtf

[novel fog]

might also be able to include Animal Friends in there, who knows what is going on with them (in particular Rick)

[lime acorn]

||Fun fact: The length of Mistilteinn, Tree Crown without a Ruler with a single loop is roughly 7:27. WYSI||

[austere willow]

7:27

[tawdry mulch]

banger ass song

i love that song

[junior mesa]

so true

[novel fog]

guys can't believe Rick is Void

[lime acorn]

WHEN YOU S

[tawdry mulch]

i have explanation for the animal friends that is concrete im sorry Void Kirby fans cant help you

well im Void Kirby fans but i cant explain this stupid ass fish shooting light bulbs

[novel fog]

can you explain why Rick can inhale

[junior mesa]

kirby is simply a parasite

[lime acorn]

Same

[leaden terrace]

WYSI

[junior mesa]

gave rick the ability to gulp

[leaden terrace]

OH MY GOD

[lime acorn]

I can't fucking take it. I can't see 727 the same way again /j

[tawdry mulch]

i basically just say Kirby lets them do those things but thats just a HC cause kumazaki doesnt know how tf to address this

[novel fog]

and why him (and not just Kirby or Gooey) eating gives him copy ability

[lost briar]

oh it's an osu meme

[vocal latch]

||Mistleteinn...||

[tawdry mulch]

Rick is simply built different i guess

[leaden terrace]

Me when i play the new Kirby game and the zenith becomes Blue

😳

[tawdry mulch]

ACTUALLY this is another line drawn between Kirby and dark matter boom solved (help)

[austere willow]

i mean

[lime acorn]

727

[austere willow]

the simple fact that every other enemy has its own ability

i dont think Copy Abilities are that unqie

to kirby

like ecosystem/existence wise

Most things have an ability and sometimes they gain one sometimes they lose it

[tawdry mulch]

idk clearly the copy ability is something special given that the ancients were interested in it apparently

[austere willow]

(Broom Hatter)

like

[tawdry mulch]

funny ability scrolls and whatnot

[austere willow]

"You are what you eat" doesnt only have to apply to Kirby

especially considering eating is such a referenced thing

[tawdry mulch]

i dont think enemies have copy abilities but Kirby can copy what they do which is what makes them abilities

[lost briar]

I have no clue what the fuck this conversation is trying to accomplish

[tawdry mulch]

idk im just spitbally about copy ability cause its interesting

[austere willow]

thaaaaaaaaaaats void = kirby!

[tawdry mulch]

i do like how the novels mention that its a special thing i think thats fun

[austere willow]

i dont see why any of the animal friends shouldnt have copy abilities like

[junior fiber]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/182899928140480512/995088280825626694/caption-50.gif

[tawdry mulch]

forest animals

[austere willow]

they just can

[tawdry mulch]

if only we could be more peaceful 😔

[austere willow]

there's no explanation and yet it happens

so thats just how it is

[junior fiber]

maybe kirby can share his copy abilities idk

[tawdry mulch]

the forest animals have clearly crossed the origin

[austere willow]

sure

[odd rover]

Why is it impossible for the video to have sound

[austere willow]

because u have a lame video editor!!!

[junior mesa]

honestly though, i do kind of wonder how related dark matter (or "substance" in Void) is to Dark Matter (species)
because that'd imply that all negativity = Dark Matter (species)
and the choice to have the Katakana title for species & a different term for substance is interesting
I've kind of settled on "Void met Dark Matter (species) at some point and then began emitting a bunch of darkness because he copied it -> forms jamba heart -> ancients say nono -> etc. etc." personally, but it's always felt like a weird interpretive void topic

[tawdry mulch]

actually this is very bizzare but what if this has something to do with the dumb stack charge attacks lmfaooo

the sharing of power through piggy backs is CANON LORE

[austere willow]

i mean the simple idea is that its a team attack

[ruby narwhal]

Genuinely more scary that forgo itself

[junior fiber]

thought you said beam attack

almost had a heart attack

[austere willow]

so riding an animal friend means youre constantly doing a team attack

[tawdry mulch]

and i will not accept anything that says otherwi BEAM ATTACK

yes

[odd rover]

[tawdry mulch]

this is the real and canon explanation that i am 100% certain Kumazaki used precious work hours to think out

hes just great like that. what a guy

[austere willow]

irony levels out of control man

[tawdry mulch]

i need more theories about game mechanics that are completely inconsequential to the overall lore

[austere willow]

sure

[tawdry mulch]

'void isnt kirby!!! (sends a million words that dont say this)'
'void is kirby!! (shows face)'
shut UP EXPLAIN THE MULTICOLORED KIRBYS

[junior fiber]

be the change you want to see in the world

[austere willow]

Kine and Mine mask are the only masks that do anything because theyre fancy novelty masks that blow bubbles into the air and it carries over into the water

[tawdry mulch]

red kirby has changed his color to blue and we should be accepting of the new him

[junior fiber]

red kirby died

wake up

[tawdry mulch]

NO

[austere willow]

tell that to the Red Kirby fans

[junior fiber]

he's been deceased for years

tragic accident really

[novel fog]

this is true, he died to a random Waddle Dee

[tawdry mulch]

i cant believe this

[midnight kelp]

||So I remember making an Chaos variant of the Magologue final boss, what do u think of it||

[tawdry mulch]

thats what i look like right after a hot shower

[rustic trellis]

I too look like ||A god of destruction who destoryed halcandra|| after a hot shower

[austere willow]

i like how White is the color of pure chaos and destruction :)

[midnight kelp]

Honestly I would make it to where if u wear the DMK mask with MK he gets DMK’S Star Allies moveset

[austere willow]

what kinda novelty mask does that

[midnight kelp]

None

[rustic trellis]

Me when i wear masked dedede as dedede

[tawdry mulch]

||bold of dmk to make him bi and evil kind of messed up||

[vocal latch]

I would've liked it if Metal General Mask showed your damage or the enemy's damage you give to it per attack LOL

[rustic trellis]

tbf it would have rational, magolor is a wizard and a liar

[midnight kelp]

THATS NOT WHAT I MEANT

[midnight kelp]

Aaaand no one cares

[tawdry mulch]

why did i write dmk

[rustic trellis]

ah yes

[tawdry mulch]

i meant kumazaki joke fucking ruined

[odd rover]

UG FINE THE KAPWING WATERMARK WINS

[tawdry mulch]

im not changing it

[rustic trellis]

the source of all evil, director of kirby, dark meta knight

[main fractal]

DMK?!!!

[rustic trellis]

Usurping kumazakis throne has been his ultimate goal all along

[tawdry mulch]

i wonder what percentage of the global population will find this funny it might be lower than shiny odds

[odd rover]

Someone crop this I ain’t doing this

[austere willow]

i also will not do this

[odd rover]

Screw you

[junior fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-super-star-ultra-galactic-nova-explode-dies-gif-21264125

[rustic trellis]

me when someone starts a void argument

[junior fiber]

3rd void discussion of the week moment

[novel fog]

hey it could be worse

[junior fiber]

i bet it was worse a few years ago

[ruby narwhal]

Me when someone says something along the lines of “fecto = infection”

[rustic trellis]

The dark days of post wave 3 SA

When void was all we had to talk about

[junior fiber]

i wonder how that was

[junior mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-tonight-glass-break-kinemaster-gif-22142436

[ruby narwhal]

I can’t really be one to judge too harshly about not understanding void as I did believe the void = Kirby thing for some time and was only enlightened when I joined the server last year

[rustic trellis]

smh we have only mentioned void 24,000 times on this server

not enough void convos

[austere willow]

we should start another one

right now

[lost briar]

I'm still sad that the Rick mask doesn't give you Ice friction

[glossy jay]

Postgame Void episode next kirby game with two endings, a good and bad one

[austere willow]

hows a mask gonna affect ur feet

[rustic trellis]

coo mask should let you fly

[junior fiber]

Doid, void void void void, void void void void, void. Void void void void void, voiddd void!!

[rustic trellis]

...wait

[glossy jay]

Good one has him become kirby

[lost briar]

same way the bunny hood does

[glossy jay]

Bad one has him become another void

[novel fog]

Kirby = Void is boring anyway
where's the Magolor = Void and Popopo = Void theorists at smh

[vapid kestrel]

Why the FUCK is ||Void Shaking His Ass in the Background of the Fight with Magolor's Soul in The True Arena of Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe for the Nintendo Switch™️????||

[rustic trellis]

smh when are we getting the lore that the termina form is powered by the corpses of the ancients that were sacrificed in a ritual

[lost briar]

#kirby-kingdom message

[thin prairie]

GrucYord#9062 - #kirby-kingdom

broke: Kirby is Void and is related to Dark Matter because Void imitates Kirby and Dark Matter

woke: Gooey is Void because Gooey imitates Kirby and Dark Matter

Quoted by GrucYord#9062 • [406936140575277056] · Nov 15, 2022, 11:00 PM

[austere willow]

because hes the origin from the track title [Whatever this Word Means] surrounding the Origin

[junior fiber]

||void double cheeked up||

[novel fog]

you mean 'Corridor [Whatever this Word Means] the Origin'

[tawdry mulch]

im sorry that was too mean

[leaden terrace]

Fack you!

[tawdry mulch]

oh no did void happen again while i was gone

[rustic trellis]

"Corridor surrounding [Whatever this word means] Origin

[vapid kestrel]

Reminder the funny word is in RtDL

[leaden terrace]

TRUE

[odd rover]

You fuckin dick!

[rustic trellis]

me when people travel (they are distant travlers)

[leaden terrace]

Cock ass!

[novel fog]

yeah, though it means more like circulate there right
it isn't the same form is it

[tawdry mulch]

okay no void phew that was scary i can only do that once a month maybe

[rustic trellis]

void jumpscare

[odd rover]

IT’S “ALWAYS NAYSAYING EVERYTHING I CREATE”

[glossy jay]

Wtf is a tree crown

[rustic trellis]

There is no tree crown

[lost briar]

the wreath on the thing

[glossy jay]

Bush Tiara

[odd rover]

Y’know we’re doing a lot of yelling today

[tawdry mulch]

weird how this english version left out both instances of this i think they mentioned something similar in a different description in this game

[leaden terrace]

[tawdry mulch]

i only read them once my mind might be glazing over

[vapid kestrel]

||Why would you use the word circulate here||

[lost briar]

spherical

[novel fog]

||because that is dictionary definition of 巡り||

[glossy jay]

"Tree crown without a ruler" what does that even mean

[novel fog]

||there is a difference between 巡り and 巡る iirc||

[junior fiber]

||its a tree crown with no ruler||

[tawdry mulch]

||its a crown but it has no ruler cause it does the ruling||

[vapid kestrel]

||Ultrby that's really not how Japanese works||

[novel fog]

||巡り means "To go around in order. To go around and come back again. Circulation."||

[novel fog]

||I thought they would be same too then I looked it up, trust me I hate it||

[vapid kestrel]

And again, why would you use the word circulate in the context of ||'he continuously ???? many lands and worlds"||

[tawdry mulch]

||im guessing the thing about it traveling many worlds has to do with the rulers going to different places or something. Surely this thing cant sprout legs and walk away. right. please tell me it cant.||

[austere willow]

FAYE DOES MAGOLAND TOUR USE THIS WORD

[glossy jay]

The crown needs a power source to do anything

[junior fiber]

girth

[novel fog]

||it can also mean 'to walk around from place to place', and 'around things'||

[glossy jay]

Maybe the ancients used the crown to conquer worlds and its filled with that lingering desire built up over time

Like The Core from Amphibia

[austere willow]

but yeah the only actual link i can see from ||Void being in that center part||

is the track title "Corridor Surrounding the Origin"

like its not even solid evidenc

but its like

our closest thing to one

[glossy jay]

So was that a Void being born then? Or

Cyz why would he be chilling in the ground

[austere willow]

its the origin!

[novel fog]

||meanwhile 巡る has like a million more definitions compared to 巡りlmao||

[tawdry mulch]

||i think its supposed to be representative that the Crown is made using Termina's power and not just some void vibing but thats just me||

[vapid kestrel]

Magoland Tours are called アトラクションツアー Attraction Tour using English words

[austere willow]

dammnnnnnn

[junior mesa]

I figured this deserved some sound effects

[austere willow]

no funny word

[odd rover]

THANK YOU

[junior fiber]

now i wanna listen to that song

[odd rover]

This actually funnier with the background music

Thank you

[junior mesa]

[odd rover]

#fountain-of-memes time

[glossy jay]

Kirby lore is more confusing than Zelda lore to me

And that says a lot

[junior mesa]

I know little to nothing about zelda lore

[tawdry mulch]

link green he have sword

[odd rover]

Zelda lore is pretty much timelines

Pretty easy when you understand that

[junior mesa]

beyond funny sword man save princess from ganon pig guy
and there was a calamity version of him at some point (???) that like
took over cool tech robots

bam zelda lore im so knowledgeable

[rustic trellis]

the true test is how it compares to kingdom hearts lore

[glossy jay]

the Calamity was just Ganondorf's anger flowing from his corpse

It wasn't really ganon

[junior mesa]

makes sense

[glossy jay]

And corpse Ganon wakes up in TOTK

[rustic trellis]

Calamity ganon is also like the weakest form iirc

[odd rover]

Kingdom Hearts lore is just a mess
Granted Kirby lore is also kind of a mess but less than KH

[rustic trellis]

since it isnt really ganon

[junior mesa]

or at least more sense than like
me thinking ganon just became a misty evil force somehow

[odd rover]

Splatoon explains its lore so goddamn well

[glossy jay]

I hope totk is good

I want another trailer this month

Since it releases in two months

lmaoo

[glossy jay]

I'm sad that we're moving on after Splat 3

[junior mesa]

i'd have to wait for more footage to see if totk is more of the same or if it innovates enough
but I'd want to actually finish botw first before investing in expensive video game

[glossy jay]

They said "the finale of this story"

[maiden forum]

glad im not a zelda fan

[junior mesa]

i want to save up and not keep spending on
games

[glossy jay]

The leaked artbook shows tons of new content

[odd rover]

I’ll get TotK when I finish Botw (a few years from now)

[junior mesa]

true
if the next nintendo console is backwards compatible (it better be) then I'll probably (maybe?) come back to totk at some point

[glossy jay]

Botw annoys me too much

Too open with not enough to do

[vocal latch]

Oh god we talked about Zelda

👁️

[junior mesa]

i loved botw personally
I liked the exploration and sense of freedom, but i get why it isn't for everyone

[vocal latch]

[junior mesa]

altho i reset when i got to the castle bc i had put the game down for a while and picked it back up not knowing what to do

[tawdry mulch]

tbf there is still a bunch of jp exclusive stuff

[glossy jay]

Botw is fine but it has a lack of diversity

[vocal latch]

It's basically him as a vengeful spirit who's separated from his body, which is why in BOTW he tried making his own body and in AOC he had to possess

[glossy jay]

Not in Splatoon 3

[tawdry mulch]

haikaro walker or whatever its called

true splat 3 is good about it (no haikaro walker)

though i do wish story mode did some things better with what was actually going on

[glossy jay]

Grizz survives at least

[tawdry mulch]

the files were banger but they didnt really explain why the tests are here and the objects that make a razor. maybe itll get explained later but later is sooooooooooo far

[glossy jay]

So he's not over as a villain

[tawdry mulch]

im pretty sure grizz is dead af

i love grizz hes funny

[glossy jay]

He's floating in space in the credits

[tawdry mulch]

he was in the credits but i think that was just "silly haha credits thing" cause you know there was also color changing ink surrounding the planet too lmfao

and he looked totally different when he was about to blow up

[glossy jay]

Would be kind of dark to show a blown up Mr. Grizz corpse in space lol

[solar harbor]

ELECYON LORE SNEAKPEEK
||Rampaging Doomers have stormed Dimension Gaia (Planet Earth), thanks to the giant dimensional rift that Master Doomer has breached out from. After noticing that Another Dimension is becoming unstable, Magolor and the Lor Starcutter are forcefully thrown into Dimension Gaia...

What new opponent is he going to face this time around? It seems that the Cyon Comet has been destroyed... so it's going to be one that is unexpected for him...||

[tawdry mulch]

||havent seen anyone mention this but i noticed that the building during the crown fight look different from the ones in egg engines. the egg engines ones look way more scrappy almost like someone or some people are trying to make a recreation of the city that once stood there||

which is kinda sad

[solar harbor]

Some artwork of the newly vectorized ||Rampaging Doomers alongside the Master Doomer||

[fathom cradle]

cool stuff

[solar harbor]

Thanks

[leaden terrace]

meteorz was streaming true arena

and the stream stopped working when magolor soul is close to defeat

😭

[solar harbor]

What the fuck

[lofty condor]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[leaden terrace]

THIS IS SO SAD

[faint galleon]

Ice hammer froze the stream

[leaden terrace]

I WAITED 65 MINS FOR THIS HAHAHAHA

omg it bluescreened apparently

[solar harbor]

BRUUUH

HOWWW

[leaden terrace]

BAKHWLFHAWLDN OOOO IT JUST ENDEDH

[solar harbor]

????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[leaden terrace]

HDAOLIHDAHPWDP_)WUEW)U@@

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

||WE MISSED HIS REACTION TO THE DEATH ANIM||

😭 😭 😭

[faint galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-kirby-magolor-kirby-gif-22271141

[solar harbor]

BRUUUUUUH

[leaden terrace]

||HE LITERALLY GOT BACK IN THE GAME AS SOON AS THE PORTAL CLOSED||

[lofty condor]

||Before Magolor Soul was sent into the portal at the end of the battle, he focused all of his remaining energy into blue-screening the livestream as one final gift. Now nobody will know Meteorz’ reaction||

[leaden terrace]

oh no

new super chat said something wrong

[rustic trellis]

spreading misinformation on the internet

[leaden terrace]

||OH MY GOD HE DIDNT EVEN FULLY PAY ATTENTION TO IT EITHER IM CRYING||

[fathom cradle]

Super chat shut the fuck up challenge

[rustic trellis]

this is a magolor moment

[solar harbor]

WHAT

WHAT THE FUCK LMAO

[leaden terrace]

HE WAS SO FOCUSED ON THE BLUESCREEN

NOOOOOOOO

[rustic trellis]

To be fair thats fair

Bluescreen is a pretty important issue

[leaden terrace]

It is

but egg

[solar harbor]

Regarding ||Crowned Doomer||, someone posted this on the comments section for ||Another Domination||'s extended version by B-cah. A dream of prophecy.

[proper spindle]

Started the true arena

There’s 21 bosses

What the hell

[junior mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-plan-patrick-star-scheming-gif-4998016

[maiden swan]

Do they know

[leaden terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-plan-patrick-star-scheming-gif-4998016

[proper spindle]

I couldn’t even beat the original without tornado

[proper spindle]

Wait there’s MORE???

[leaden terrace]

o qdje:LAWBDHLAWDJHN

[proper spindle]

I was garbage at this game’s arena

And now you’re telling me I have to fight double the battles????

[junior mesa]

sand will be your friend

[faint galleon]

You can use magoland souvenirs in the True Arena, if you want to cheese it even further

[solar harbor]

And don't forget to grind at Egg Catcher!

[lost briar]

to compensate there's 3 maxim tomatoes instead of 6 regular tomatoes

[solar harbor]

FUCK YEAH

[lost briar]

oh no wait

that's how it was in the original

[solar harbor]

OH

[proper spindle]

But I don’t like saaaaand

[junior mesa]

don't

[lost briar]

honestly kinda jank that RtDL and PR are the only games that don't give you 6 tomatoes in true arena

[proper spindle]

Also uh… I kinda swore to myself to not cheese my first run

[junior mesa]

yeah
rtdl gives you up to 30 magoland tomatoes instead

[proper spindle]

I honestly hate how few stars the bosses drop

Later games like robobot and star Allie’s give plenty and it’s so weird they didn’t up the star count for return deluxe

[junior mesa]

tbh i thought there were plenty of stars & projectiles

[proper spindle]

And the bosses get invincibility frames

I thought they realized how annoying that was and removed it

And now it’s back

[glossy jay]

When I try to punch Goriath while he's roaring and get PUSHED BACK

[fathom cradle]

I always thought tdx was the most annoying with stars

[proper spindle]

Star Allie’s and forgotten land were definitely the kindest games star wise

It’s weird having whispy give tons of stars in star Allie’s and then going back to only getting apples

[junior mesa]

tbh i barely notice boss i-frames
(i used Ninja for TA)

[proper spindle]

Ninja might be my best bet for the arena

[junior mesa]

it's pretty solid, but I will say

[proper spindle]

Funny considering how much I used to hate ninja

[junior mesa]

be careful on doomers

both epilogue and normal

[proper spindle]

Yeah they’re really weird

[junior mesa]

greedy quad shocks can uh
mess up your hp against doomers of all variety lmao

[proper spindle]

Their movement is weird enough in normal mode

And then the rampaging ones are just pure hell

[junior mesa]

also remember that blossom storm's (iirc thats the name? up-down attack) i-frames aren't great & will leave you hanging in the air afterward, not optimal in a lot of scenarios

so for i-frames just use dash attack or use the smoke screen

[proper spindle]

I always forget about smoke screen

[rustic trellis]

Step 1 of winning true arena: cheese it, then pick dedede for round 2

[junior mesa]

smoke screen can be handy for like
smaller i-frames
like when general is launching his rockets from the bg at you

[proper spindle]

Honestly I might want to try doing a bullet star only run

[junior mesa]

step 1: just first try it like me

[proper spindle]

But this games bosses aren’t very generous

Especially the epilogue bosses

[junior mesa]

the epilogue bosses in TA aren't nearly as bad as in epilogue

their hp is cut down quite a bit

[proper spindle]

Also goriath

Fuck goriath I hate him

[junior mesa]

poor goriath

[novel fog]

well, pretty sure it is they didn't have as much HP as the EX bosses to begin with

[proper spindle]

Stupid teleporting water counterpart

They would definitely make a no ability run absolute hell on their own

[junior mesa]

regardless kirby & co. deal way more damage in TA than mag does in epi

[proper spindle]

Yeah I noticed that on my attempted cheese run

Tornado eats their health

[molten vapor]

thank goodness

[junior mesa]

tbh i kind of wished that the epi bosses put up more of a fight in TA

they felt too... easy?

[proper spindle]

You want more of a fight in a twenty one battle long arena?

[urban bluff]

wait new emote???

[novel fog]

btw most of the bosses have slight bit more HP than they did in original

[molten vapor]

it already is one of the hardest challenges in the franchise

[junior mesa]

yes

yes i do

[novel fog]

this includes the Extra Mode ones
idk how much of a difference it makes but it is there

[proper spindle]

Well, arena hell aside

[glossy jay]

22 battle long, include Heavy Lobster for no reason

[proper spindle]

Wait what

[glossy jay]

Make it 22 battles long

[junior mesa]

heavy lobster jumpscare

[proper spindle]

The only thing blocking my 100% completion is true arena

[fathom cradle]

yea ta difficulty is mostly from the length rather than any individual fights

the bosses just don't have enough hp to actually get enough damage in

stuff like ||the epilogue doomers are hard bc they constantly flit about and don't give you time to hit them in the first place lol||

but even then they have specific attacks where you can usually get a ton of damage in

[idle sapphire]

Is RtDL the only game that gives the bosses a pathetically small amount of health compared to the story?

[fathom cradle]

like when ||crowned doomer starts spawning smaller doomers|| it's over

all the arenas have less hp for the bosses than when they originally appear

rtdl always felt pretty easy to me in particular though idk

[idle sapphire]

Yeah, I haven’t done The RtDLDX one yet but In the og it was definitely the easiest imo

[fathom cradle]

rtdx is mostly just more of the same

like ironically after ||crowned doomer i'm relieved to be in the final 6 bc all those bosses are pretty predictable||

i appreciate that they ||made a harder magolor soul fight but tbh i still think he's on the lower end of soul boss difficulty lol||

[faint glen]

||crowned doomer is probably the hardest fight save for magolor soul||
||either that or . Rampaging doomers lol||

[thin forge]

||it aint even hard with sand cheesing||

like

guard 24/7

[faint glen]

||i thought funny tree would be easily the hardest but i didnt have much trouble with it honestly because its so predictable and unlike a lot of other bosses it doesnt have constant hitboxes||

[thin forge]

like

why is galacta here lmao

compared to everybody else

[faint glen]

He was there in the original!

[thin forge]

i know!!

[faint glen]

Hes still harder than magolor/lor ex

[thin forge]

ok true

[faint glen]

He does die awfully quick tho lol

[thin forge]

ngl magolor souls design goes hard

[tawdry mulch]

galacta once again appearing for no reason in the exact same game so people get mad when he appears in the next game (pretend tdx does not exist)

[thin forge]

imagine the funny butterfly appears

[faint glen]

I want a game with no knight fights
I wanna see if theyre capable of that

[tawdry mulch]

false impossible

[faint glen]

Whats funny is they definitely knew people would get sick of the galacta fights lol
Cuz robobot had a half fakeout with it being dms first and then him, and then star allies had a full fakeout
...then it introduced morpho and seem to want to tire him out just as quickly wee

[austere willow]

no

[faint glen]

All arenas have less boss health yeah

[burnt slate]

||shame that TA mag soul kept the same spread magic orb pattern and not this one ||

[austere willow]

this is

quite

[faint glen]

Its a thing so theyre more beatable and streamlined

[austere willow]

the diagram

[burnt slate]

noone gets hit by that attack

when you got only 2 orbs actually aiming down at the ground

[faint glen]

I love magolor's triple ball fire attack. Thing
because its like the mans got no aim at all its funny

[austere willow]

Revolution Flame

[faint glen]

Oh yeah i guess that is the same move

He can aim it in 2 dimensions at least

[novel fog]

and Revolution Orbs

[novel fog]

(yes these are considered different attacks with different names, have no idea why none of the other EX (or Magolor Soul) attacks do this)

[austere willow]

I think its very funny that Magolor's Magic Orb attacks are instantly more effective when he just shoots it at a straight line

Traitor Magolor be lik

swoosh

fwoosh

its GOING SO MANY DIRECTIONS

[tawdry mulch]

tbh people keep asking for Morpho too an im like lets reel it back love the guy but between EX and his canon appearance lets make his next one worthwhile lmao those other two were crazy

[austere willow]

(it doenst hit anyone)

[junior fiber]

||Why the croissant ||

[austere willow]

why not

[tawdry mulch]

thinks the Knights are the most poorly handled thing lorewise to me tbhhhh

[faint glen]

||Magosoul is a croissant||

[junior fiber]

🥐

[thin forge]

we just want him to put another character out of their misery

[faint glen]

||magolor can be so many foods||

||egg, croissant, cat||

[tawdry mulch]

Galacta and Morpho had their big moments now so now give them the plot relevance they deserve lmao

[thin prairie]

I just finished the true arena and man, really cool ending. But I really wished they split it in two between the epilogue bosses and the EX bosses

[leaden terrace]

Morpho:

[thin forge]

https://tenor.com/view/alf-tux-gif-20040572

[austere willow]

Morpho is no match for ||the Master Crown||

[thin forge]

lies

[junior fiber]

I’d love for Morpho and GK to get games where they’re main plot relevant

[faint glen]

||What if morpho ate the master crown||

[leaden terrace]

i mean we dont know the full extent of either's powers

[thin prairie]

I would honestly like to see that fight

[leaden terrace]

i mean except crown kinda

but it still mostly uses magolor's powers

||and arguably its much weaker as tree||

[thin forge]

well galacta has destroyed planets as collateral but we dont really see him do that

[thin prairie]

Maybe this is a case of immovable object’s versus unstoppable force

I mean ||the crown|| on its own is a doomsday device really

[leaden terrace]

||morpho already lost to kirby and hes not even that powered up so he must not be that strong either lol||

[thin forge]

||EVERYONE loses to kirby||

||using that isnt even fair||

[junior fiber]

Except for me

[leaden terrace]

||duh but it just appears to him and tries to fight him and loses immediately like wtf u tryna gain from that||

only embarassment

[faint glen]

||i mean i dont think losing to kirby is much of a benchmark
But he did also lose to a rat, human kid, blue orb, hamster||

[leaden terrace]

||at least MAGOLOR lasts long||

||at least MAGOLOR lasts long||

[thin prairie]

||yea and the master crown does too. Funny how a super ability is needed to defeat magolor but not the super crown. At least when kirby fights it||

[junior fiber]

Kirby’s strength varies depending on what they need him to do

[faint glen]

||it is also fair that morpho never had a second phase like any self respecting final boss||

[leaden terrace]

||this implies magolor is actually stronger than the crown ||

[faint glen]

||technically master crown did, magolor needed the funny big sword||

[novel fog]

||well that's moreso just because Kirby only fights it in Arena, don't need Super Abilities to defeat Magolor there either||

[thin forge]

||tbf it took like, three times to kill void for good||

[thin prairie]

||well yea he is, he literally beat it||

[faint glen]

||i think mags is simply more resourceful||

||but master crown + magolor > magolor > master crown without host||

||or well. A literal apple as a host||

[leaden terrace]

||no i mean the reason crown is so strong is cus it used magolor's powerful magic. otherwise, its like tree||

[novel fog]

||we don't even know if those other two fights take place in main world, and either way they are not the same beings||

[thin prairie]

||Unrelated but is there a secret ending for fully upgrading magolor? Just wondering, don’t tell me what it is though just if there is one||

[faint glen]

||well yeah
Magolor is stronger than a gem apple||

[leaden terrace]

||tree is still pretty powerful for sure but i dont think its to a level magolor is||

[leaden terrace]

no

[thin forge]

||or maybe the apple is pure which means the crown is weakened, like how landia is a pushover||

[leaden terrace]

i mean

i dont think so

[leaden terrace]

thats what i was thinking

[novel fog]

||no, just different pause screen description for Magolor iirc||

[leaden terrace]

||but i think it only amplifies its hosts negativity||

[thin prairie]

One message removed from a suspended account.

||I went through the entirety of mags epilogue wondering where the whispy woods parallel would be. Just to see it as the final boss||
||whispy woods family reunion is WILD||

[faint glen]

||so its not a Bad Apple after all?||

[thin forge]

||where does yggy woods fit in this||

[leaden terrace]

yknwo what thinking about yeah

||i dont think theres a real wya to measure crown's power||

||highly depends on its host i guess. people would be more or less fucked if it was magolor||

||parasites do be like that||

||theyre super weak but can be very annoying to deal with once it latches onto a host||

[thin prairie]

||yggy is like the great deku tree, the really wise step grandpa. Since hes a cherry tree. Flowery is the second adoptive cousin tree. The master crown is like, idk the head of the family, and normal whispy is the middle child. Somehow having the most attention yet seemingly the most average.||

[faint glen]

||i think master crown tree was probably the closest you could get to approximating master crown's "power"
It certainly still put up a fight but without a host's power to leech off of its not as powerful||

[leaden terrace]

mhm

||and to think it lost to normal magolor||

[thin prairie]

||that apple must’ve been pretty fucked in the head for the master crown to turn it into a Biblically accurate demon tree||

[leaden terrace]

couldve been worse honestly

[thin forge]

||yeah, coulda been just whispy||

[thin prairie]

||it’s because gem apples represent microtransactions thats why its so evil lmao||

[thin forge]

(actual horror game fr)

[leaden terrace]

||it could still warp things and shoot giant roots and shoot lasers, but its nothing like the absolutely massive beams, the insane reality warping black hole, the interstellar spikes, THE USE OF SUPER ABILITIES||

its pathetic

[austere willow]

you say that like those are feats of strength and not mimicry

[leaden terrace]

what does that have to do with anything

[thin prairie]

Yea I guess just strong things can use ultra abilities

Like in general
Thats why morpho knight can use ultra sword in a way

[austere willow]

idk

i feel like ur highballing what Magolor's boss fights can do

i think theyre like same amount of power

[leaden terrace]

eh i just think magolor has a little more in his arsenal that really benefited the crown in the fight

[leaden terrace]

morpho seems to have a mysterious thing with master crown going on but thats prob not too important

and prob not going to be elaborated on anytime soon

[thin prairie]

My question is that if magolors powers are really his or holdovers from when he had some of the master crowns energy
I know we see him regain it but still if he was able to do everything he does by default then why couldn’t he handle landia himself

[austere willow]

no

magolor had those powers before im pretty sure

I mean

Assist Magolor literally teleports the same way

[leaden terrace]

yup

[austere willow]

and like here's the thing

its not that he doesnt have the powers

its that he lost to Landia

[faint glen]

Honestly him losing to landia is a decent point
But he still needed the sword to beat master crown and. I think he just learned a bit

[thin forge]

bro didnt press x

[thin prairie]

Lol

Bro forgot to upgrade before entering the fight

[thin forge]

lmao rip

i maxed all my upgrades

[jolly valve]

Whip Challenge really unleashes a new level of rage

[thin forge]

is it just me

or is the item challenge piss easy

[austere willow]

is it

[fathom cradle]

Item challenge is pretty easy for being the last one

[ocean mauve]

it's def not the worst one since you don't have a ton of movement options to remember

[faint glen]

Its not that easy
But doing it well is arguably simpler than a lot of the others because theres less to remember/keep track of

Its easier to die tho

Like getting bronze on it is probably harder than the rest

[leaden terrace]

bro prob just tried to crash into landia w the lor

doesnt even fight

he just KNEW

he had to crash into landia

[faint glen]

Lmaoo

He would do this

[thin prairie]

I honestly didn’t want to use souvenirs items in my True arena run. But at the end I needed it because I didn’t want to do another half hour climb

[leaden terrace]

and he failed and almost DIED\

[faint glen]

Or judging by what happens when u get back into halcandra

[thin forge]

i just like

[fathom cradle]

This is what inspired the friend ability in star allies

[thin forge]

used amiibos

[leaden terrace]

😭 😭 😭 😭

[faint glen]

Magolor flies into Landia's lair with the Lor
"HAHAHA! You're toast, Landia! The Master Crown will be mine!"
*Landia fires at the Lor while Magolor magologues*
"SHIT"

[thin prairie]

Amiibos are just souvenir items for 20 or more dollars I bet

[thin forge]

nah i jus bought the splatoon amiibo card set

[thin prairie]

Cool

[thin forge]

it was like everything connected in my head

[austere willow]

i think what really happeend is like

notice how the Lor isnt under magolor's full control and whim until the crown

the Lor simply like

straight up

"im not shooting at hte dragon"

"WHAT WHY NOT

[thin forge]

it alive

[austere willow]

Boom

[thin prairie]

What really happened is that mags had the lor on auto pilot fight while he watched YouTube videos on the lors screen
But the lor lost because it’s only working on kirby fighters two 2 star cpu level

[leaden terrace]

anjdHAWDSLHWDKW

[austere willow]

if Magolor just.

went on foot

he wouldve probably won

[leaden terrace]

he wouldnt though he wouldnt just fight landia on foot he wants to do it the most epic way possible

[thin prairie]

Or lack there of

Yea

[faint glen]

No one talks about how casually they shadowdropped the Lor being fully conscious and thinking
Like i know Magolor already lampshaded that in the original but i was not expecting to get Lor's perspective on Magolor

[leaden terrace]

thats why he has the whole evil plan to get reaction out of people going "WOAH WOAHH WOAHH" its CINEMATIC its CATHARTIC

[faint glen]

The Lor Lore

[thin prairie]

I always thought the lor’s name was a pun on how this game started taking the lore seriously

[leaden terrace]

i remember reading faye's translation ||"When Lor first met Magolor, it felt something about him" and i thought "SOMEBODYS GOT A CRUSH???" but no its just suspicion 😭 ||

[faint glen]

||DNVFVNDCND Mags would say yes 💀 ||

[thin prairie]

||how would a boat have feelings for an egg lmao||

[leaden terrace]

exactly

this is how

This is exactly how you say it

||How would a BOAT have FEELINGS for an EGG||

SO ITS POSSIBLE

[leaden terrace]

eshflAWHFILAWBGFKASDJSBDLSDSD

[solar harbor]

Does the Lor Starcutter even know what is the Internet

[austere willow]

its a boat from a prosperous civilization

of course it does

[thin prairie]

Lmao magolor trying to use the lors browser and it saying no

[faint glen]

||honestly i would totally see this tho||
||if the Lor could talk, like
"I had felt something about you from the start!"
"Oh- uh- I'm flattered, but I'm not really looking right now, sorry!"
"Something OFF about you!!"||

[leaden terrace]

"How do I... find... Pop Star"
"In your ass"
"Alright Lor you sassy motherfucker"

[faint glen]

Lor would absolutely sass
I dont make the rules (i do)

[leaden terrace]

||JWFOIAWHFOLAWHNDOLAHWD||

[thin prairie]

Wait I just realized this meme fanfic is just basically the karen and plankton dynamic from SpongeBob. Im dying

[leaden terrace]

||"I'm sorry but I'm NOT into spatial boats ahah"
"I SENSE YOU BEAR A SINISTER HISTORY OF MANIPULATION AND EXPLOITATION IN THE MAKING"
"Stop itttt hahha"||

[faint glen]

||NFBNDVDN REAL||

[thin forge]

plankton made karens personality like that.

hes into humilation

[leaden terrace]

speaking of all this guys

im making a comic.

[thin prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-i-have-an-idea-wait-up-ill-look-at-it-closely-i-know-that-gif-17827266

[faint glen]

Comic lets goo

[thin forge]

new headcanon unlocked: the lor sounds like GLaDOS

[austere willow]

ive been meaning to animate tihs with magolor

[leaden terrace]

well a SILLY SHORT comic but... it's very very important very very very much much imperch. in relevance to this stupid topic

[thin prairie]

Magolor fans when the the lor sees the halberd itself behind magolors back, shippers in shambles

[leaden terrace]

so as a treat, ill give you guys a little sneakpeeeeek.

[austere willow]

omg i hope its daroach from above

[faint glen]

i mean i would love if it was

[jolly valve]

Is Platinum on Ability Challenges required for 100%?

[faint glen]

it is not

[thin prairie]

No

[faint glen]

only bronze

[leaden terrace]

hehehe

[jolly valve]

Good. Don't have to go through that hell lmao

[faint glen]

LOR MOMENT
HOW DID U MAKE IT LOOK THAT GOOD THO GOD

[austere willow]

gremlin

gremlin