[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

[granite cedar]

god this song is so good

[faint glen]

Thats literally whispy

[granite cedar]

and remastering job is so fantastic

[rustic trellis]

I mean Gorimondo, Claworline, and Silly Dillo fit into the catagory of "new designs but not the main antagonist"

[ruby narwhal]

Too bad I can’t do this on hydriath

[faint glen]

I suppose
I mean it is kinda better than before
But the entire game felt like "beast pack and eh this guy again"
I was disappointed whenever it was the latter

But again, kirby formula reboot, and etc

I have high hopes for next game

And i agree fl definitely did some cool things with their older concepts

[rustic trellis]

I do feel like PRB was weak in its bosses

World 4 being MK and world 5 being Dedede felt like kinda a scam

Especially when we got MK again in the executive office

[granite cedar]

i think my main issue with them that they didnt even feel like they fit the stages they were in

[rustic trellis]

and then we have adeline holo defense API

[granite cedar]

like triple deluxe was clever bastard. not only plot revolved around rescuing dedede, you literally end up fighting him on royal road

mk is just kinda. oh you fight him in the desert

and dedede clones are kinda. oh you fight them in music town. why? who tf knows

[rustic trellis]

Dedede Drum Dash lore

[leaden terrace]

they like music

[glossy mortar]

goomorning spoilers chat

[granite cedar]

see id buy it

if anything actually referenced drum dash during the fight

like imagine if the boss arena suddenly turned into big drum or sumthin

[rustic trellis]

Were there even any drums on world 5?

[granite cedar]

no

[faint glen]

Yeah the theme for mk and dedede were just
Technology again lol

[glossy mortar]

that would be the funny part

[faint glen]

And the theme for the dedede fights in fl is
Wild again lol

[rustic trellis]

you totally couldve made some drum related puzzles or something

[glossy mortar]

the drums come out of fucking nowhere

[novel fog]

I mean, it is an orangish dried up ocean at sunset I guess? though you fight him inside somewhere

[granite cedar]

basically this tale is old as time. robobot suffered from having ambitious scope and concept despite the game needing to amount to time and resources saving sequel to triple deluxe

[rustic trellis]

like a section where you have to get a key onto a high up platform using drums

[granite cedar]

thing is

[rustic trellis]

You do

[granite cedar]

nothing much suggests that in the game itself, only hint is music track name that was made post-factum

so it might be just kumazaki retroactively justifying it, we don't really know lol

[rustic trellis]

MK is fought indoors

[granite cedar]

no i mean

gigabyte grounds being dried up orange ocean part

[novel fog]

maybe the blenders, but true

[rustic trellis]

infact the only boss fought outdoors in prb is clanky and star dream

[faint glen]

Actually whispy was . The only boss in the game that was themed after the area lol

[granite cedar]

yeah

funny aint it

well

i guess haltmann counts? because hes a businessman and you fight him in the office

[novel fog]

really they just needed to put stuff inside the game more for that one lol

[rustic trellis]

what was world 2s theme again?

[granite cedar]

suburbs

[faint glen]

Well yeah but given i think

[novel fog]

town I guess

[faint glen]

Somehow i totally forgot lmao

[glossy mortar]

the highs and lows of suburban life

[novel fog]

I like the buildings

[rustic trellis]

World 2 being forgettable moment

[glossy mortar]

it is NOT

[faint glen]

It was cool tho!

[novel fog]

I remember the music and stuff

[faint glen]

I think it just got overshadowed by rhythm route lol

[rustic ether]

Every world in Robobot was great

My fav was definitely Rhythm Route tho

[glossy mortar]

Robobot is great

[rustic ether]

Robobot is still like

One of the best Kirby Platformers

[rustic trellis]

I felt like up until Rhythm Route the worlds were kinda basic

[faint glen]

I mean the town was new too

[rustic ether]

I liked the Oil Rig world

[rustic trellis]

i mean you got grassland, town, ocean, desert

the oil rig motif was kinda cool

[faint glen]

Well every kirby game has some, at least robobot made em feel a bit fresh by robotisizing

[rustic ether]

Arguably the coolest thing about Robobot for me, was the return of the Dark Matter Swordsman XD

[rustic trellis]

I mean tdx only falls into two basic worlds, being fine fields and endless explosions

[faint glen]

Well tdx was simply the best lol

[rustic ether]

LIKE SUCH A COOL DEEP CUT RETURN

[main fractal]

Dark Matter swordsman was such a good reimagining

[glossy mortar]

tdx is silly /pos

[granite cedar]

i love how they are milk carton boxes

[rustic trellis]

Dark Matter Clone carrying PRB's boss lineup

[glossy mortar]

oh my god they are

[main fractal]

Pretty muxh

[rustic trellis]

Clanky was pretty cool also tho

[glossy mortar]

and soda cups

[novel fog]

yeah, Robobot has lot of good object (don't know if there's a better word for it) motifs

[rustic ether]

Loved Clanky

And Mecha Knight

[rustic trellis]

MK was alright, but we didnt need to fight him twice

[glossy mortar]

we didn't Not need to either so i dont mind personally

[lofty condor]

If we’re talking about the bosses I just wanna say how much I love the boss designs in Epilogue

Like

[rustic trellis]

It would be like if we fought dedede instead of coily rattler and then fought dedede again

[glossy mortar]

WAIT YES THANK YOU

[lofty condor]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-epilogue-kirby-return-to-dreamland-adventure-wii-magolor-gif-27552776

[rustic trellis]

Epilogue bosses be kinda sick

[lofty condor]

Deadass good design

[faint glen]

Theyre fun and clever
Its a whole lot better than the recolours theyve always done

[novel fog]

here too, stuff like a sink

[glossy mortar]

they're recolors but like clever recolors

[faint glen]

Nah theyre redesigns

[glossy mortar]

oh my god??? these make kirby look so tiny

[faint glen]

They changed the actual models and concept

[glossy mortar]

yea ok fair enough

[rustic ether]

How have we been talking about Robobots Boss Lineup without bringing up Star Dream? XD

Has never been topped in terms of final bosses

[glossy mortar]

i dunno

[novel fog]

eh, subjective

[glossy mortar]

shooter bosses are always lackluster to me

[novel fog]

I prefer stuff like Void Termina and Elfilis

[glossy mortar]

little challenge or creative attack patterns, just Feel Powerful While You Kill Thing

[novel fog]

but they're all good

yeah

[glossy mortar]

which is nice and all

[leaden terrace]

Elfilis is like a whole new level

[warm totem]

What’s y’all’s best time in the true arena?

[leaden terrace]

star dreams very close though yeah

[glossy mortar]

elfilis is incredibly done yeah

[novel fog]

Star Dream isn't really the best gameplay wise lol

[warm totem]

19:53.06 Mecha ability

[glossy mortar]

i like bosses that make me think Oh that's clever

Example

[rustic ether]

It was hype tho, cant deny that

[glossy mortar]

||rampaging doomers putting explosion dust at the edge of the screen during their big suck attack so you dont just mindlessly run||

[rustic ether]

And the Nova reveal shattered my mind for WEEKS dude XD

[novel fog]

it was fine in main mode
True Arena is eh

[odd rover]

Love 1v1 final bosses

[lofty condor]

||I’m a big fan of how Magolor and Elfilis (and also Master Crown for that matter) don’t have any schmup sequences for their fights||
||Like, boss fights on ground feel more personal I guess lol||

[flat pendant]

i can't fucking believe that i just played peak fiction that somehow was able to surpass forgotten land levels of crazy for me. My mind will probably change but my lord....

[granite cedar]

god i really hope they will just relagate shmup stuff to pre-final boss parts of the climax instead of making it part of final boss like robobot and sa

[lofty condor]

Yeah

[rustic trellis]

Um ackthually the boss' name is "Lor & Magolor" so Magolor DOES have a shooter in his fight

[lofty condor]

Um ackthually

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-bonk-gif-24279189

[rustic ether]

Alright fr tho peak Kirby fiction for me…

[celest grove]

Finally done with Extra Mode

[rustic ether]

Morpho Knight becoming canon

[celest grove]

I'll do the Arenas later

[rustic ether]

[celest grove]

I left the game cart to my mom so she can actually play it

[worldly burrow]

Anyone know tips for getting platinum on rampaging doomers

[lost briar]

pretty much the only way is to just have a high combo when you finish them off

like, just don't get hit

just spam Surges

[austere willow]

i think for visuals its aesthetics

motif in visuals is like

very specific symbols

[ruby narwhal]

Just beat mag epilogue final boss first try on a slither of health

Damn that was a good fight, ||the root attacks where surprisingly quick||

Now onto the true arena — v —

[novel fog]

I meant for the object part but lol

[exotic cobalt]

||Has anyone tried to do the merry magoland true missions with no cpus for the non-checkboard chase missions that state that it is required? If so, does it work?||

[glossy jay]

RTDL is probably my favorite Kirby aside from FL

[main fractal]

Good choices

[subtle marsh]

in the second phase of the fight, there is a moment that all four doomers group together to make a black hole: if you have lv6 surge, you can very easily hit all four a lot of times at once with three surges

[lost briar]

I just remembered something

there was this green greens arrangement that was in an ad that never plays in the actual game

I wonder what was up with that

[maiden swan]

Void Termina stole it for the SA remake

[cold pawn]

I can't even imagine how a SA remake would be like

Replayability wise, it's packed with lots and lots of content. So how much a remake would add?

[plain hound]

god the Grand Doomer and ||Crowned Doomer|| tracks sound so damn good together

[lost briar]

difficulty settings?

[cold pawn]

That would be cool, but minor in comparison to what RTDX added to the OG game

[lost briar]

the easy difficulty of story mode was supposed to be in response to TD and PR being too difficult

for younger players

[cold pawn]

Who actually said that TDX and PR had difficult Story Modes?

[lost briar]

Kumazaki himself

[maiden swan]

Me

I died in the true arena

[cold pawn]

Ok, he's a genius and everything, but this is such a bad take

[maiden swan]

😦

[craggy sable]

Crazy how I can play as all of the helpers and dream friends and have each of their records stored.

I could definitely spend 200 hours on this game

[plain hound]

so thats why Star Allies story mode was brain dead

[cold pawn]

But True Arena is not part of Story Mode

[maiden swan]

To a normal person, maybe

[floral mantle]

also heard that's because a certain audience stuggle to beat the bosses in Story Mode

[lost briar]

it's why they added two difficulty modes to FL and RtDLD

one being normal mode and the other being easy mode

[craggy sable]

But Methanoid that's literally the arena, not story mode

[cold pawn]

So is Pyribbit to blame for Star Allies's very easy Story Mode?

[craggy sable]

That was 2 games ago blue kirby

[pliant socket]

HOP OFF MY GOAT...

[maiden swan]

This name was an amazing idea, just call me tiller

But I know, I’m just messing withyou

[craggy sable]

Anyways, Magolor Epilogue's music is banger

All the way through

[coarse scaffold]

yo, nobody noticed m- 😭 i-

[lofty condor]

So true

[vapid kestrel]

Lmao

[coarse scaffold]

s'been like 12 hrs

[craggy sable]

The final boss' lore does not talk about Magolor

At least from what I remembered...

[coarse scaffold]

i think what they meant was the cutscenes or something

i don't see how it implies him being sadistic

that or im blind because so am i 💀

[maiden swan]

Probably because he became a capitalist

[coarse scaffold]

HOW IS THAT SADISTIC?? 😭

[cold pawn]

Just a curiosity, so RTDX was more developed by Vanpool than HAL itself?

[coarse scaffold]

i need my explanation, how is he sadistic 😭

😭 pls bro my hopes were too high

[craggy sable]

I mean look at Magolor

[cold pawn]

idk i guess the ||Master crown tree|| was already dead but then Magolor wanted it to be deader than dead so he went ||Ultra sword|| on it

[craggy sable]

He lied about everything, worded stuff so damn weirdly, oh and of course whatever the Epilogue implies

[coarse scaffold]

💀 huh

[leaden terrace]

broooo wtf im listening to its like im in... another dimensio- (shot in the head)

(repeated shots)

[craggy sable]

Truly evil and sick and twisted, up to no good icky

[cold pawn]

Like, from what happens in the ||True Arena||, the ||Master Crown|| explodes after being defeated.

So what Magolor did with the ||Ultra Sword|| was not that necessary

[plain hound]

yooo

[leaden terrace]

i never saw that

[coarse scaffold]

ah

[quartz wave]

Okay I’m late but where did Kumazaki say anything about Dark Matter??

Is this a recent thing?

[leaden terrace]

||i think magolor just wanted to completely finish master crown once and for all||

||also, master crown exploding is just a replacement for whats basically a cutscene so thats not a good point||

[coarse scaffold]

crap now i needa do more research bc i dont know what you mean

THIS IS LIKE MILLIONS OF TIMES MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE GAME

IM BROKE MAN 😭 D:

[craggy sable]

Wait what

[leaden terrace]

im p sure some bosses end like that too when theyre not meant to play a cutscene

[leaden terrace]

i dont think so

but if i were to assume

he would be talking about it in his robobot posts

[leaden terrace]

this is like, the most generic heroic thing ever, why would anyone find sadism in that

[lofty condor]

Why are we talking about sadism again lol

[cold pawn]

Maybe they're referring to some of his ||maxed out ability monologues||

[leaden terrace]

thats just him being weird

||and evil||

||thats not being sadistic though thats just him liking to be bad||

[lofty condor]

||"Thank badness!"||

Yeah, so sadistic
I'm so scared
Don't let the monster eat me!!!!

[leaden terrace]

||he specifically mentions how upset he is when kirby didnt seem to react to his 'evil plan' so he takes his evilness personally||

kidn of like a childish habit

[maiden swan]

||Kirby’s fluoride stare is beyond any evil Magolor could think of||

[neon kelp]

Hey guys I 100% completed the game file! But i'm still missing track 52 and 199 in the jukebox, do you know how to unlockem?

[leaden terrace]

usually they must be HAL rooms

[coarse scaffold]

I was honestly hoping there wouold be some kind of sadism because the idea of magolor being sadistic is fun to play with to me

[leaden terrace]

but i dont know myself umm hold on

[neon kelp]

thanks oth!

I thought i found every hal room, but i think I'm missing one in magolor epilogue, i found only one in that

[leaden terrace]

ahhh wait

[faint glen]

i think theres only one there

[pliant socket]

There's only 4

3 in main game

and 1 in ME

[leaden terrace]

52 is played in a secret route

[pliant socket]

OHHHH YEAH

[novel fog]

||52 for secret path in Story Mode Mid-Boss Tower, 199 for all 120 Magoland missions||

[coarse scaffold]

💀 i mean kirby is worse than everyone else, he just rampages countless planets especially his own for no reason other than 1. hunger 2. they're in his way 3. boredom idk

[leaden terrace]

199 is achievement

[pliant socket]

Nutty Noon btw

[leaden terrace]

has to do with magoland

;)

[faint glen]

i feel like probably marx is more the sadistic one
i think magolor just has like a warped childish view of villainy yeah
and didnt realize what trouble that could get him into

[neon kelp]

I know there's one|| in classic level 3, then in Egg Engines (the door in the treadmill) where is the third one?)||

[leaden terrace]

i feel theyre both childish

[faint glen]

well probably

[maiden swan]

Idk I’d be pretty mad if I woke up from my nap and the green giant is trespassing on my property

[faint glen]

they do like the mischief

[leaden terrace]

i mean i think theres a degree of sadism in magolor in some cases

[coarse scaffold]

probably but then again marx is boring, he doesn't have a whole bunch of screentime and also doesn't have to put as much effort into his lies as magolor does (to my knowledge)

[faint glen]

well yeah he just says one thing

[maiden swan]

I wanna know how he got the sun and the moon to throw hands

[leaden terrace]

||like how he likes to watch his enemies try to escape the blasts of his bombs and also he bullies taranza as well as make fun of his trauma more than once||

[faint glen]

to be fair he gives visual proof but

[coarse scaffold]

the question is would you murder someone entirely unrelated in cold blood for that reason

[coarse scaffold]

fr

[maiden swan]

Wrong place at the wrong time

[novel fog]

well it is really just if a problem arises, not really hunger or boredom

[coarse scaffold]

hang on where is your evidence of him bullying taranza??? 😭

[leaden terrace]

yeah hold on

[floral mantle]

he's a jester, so...

[novel fog]

and if it is a enemy attacking him or someone else of course

[coarse scaffold]

yes but as i said, most of them are completely unrelated to the issue and possibly only attacking in self defense

[leaden terrace]

theres these

[coarse scaffold]

huh- i see-

[leaden terrace]

and if ||clash shoppee were to be taken account, he specifically poitns out how taranza's feelings never reached sectonia on taranza gear||

[novel fog]

maybe like Waddle Dees, but most others? though it is not known if he actually hurts/kills most of the Waddle Dees anyway

[faint glen]

i think maybe magolor has a skewed view of taranza because of clash

[leaden terrace]

oh and also, ||they also have default sectonia mask so lol||

put right besides old friend

[novel fog]

and even then, there is a bit of the time where Waddle Dees are causing trouble/close to harming Kirby or similar

[proper spindle]

Funniest part is that he calls the actual Sectonia old friend

Like wow dude

[leaden terrace]

"yeah i can tell youre having some issues man."
"mmm..." (sad)
"im going to use that as leverage for my sick sense of humor"
"wh-why"

[novel fog]

in JP it's ありし日の友 (something like 'Friend of Past Days')
the two definitions of ありし日 are 'days gone by; before; long ago' and 'when the dead person was alive'

[proper spindle]

Also I never realized how much he says dude

[leaden terrace]

I FORGOT ABOUT THIS

That is just

so mean

[proper spindle]

Magolor is a scumbag and it’s great

[floral mantle]

Doesn't Enemies respawn once you left the area?

[leaden terrace]

"Oh yeah I have to let them know that shes also dead"
"But, why"
"I dont know its funny"
"What about it is funny"

[novel fog]

yeah, and they are said to revive at some point
so he probably does not even kill most of the enemies

[proper spindle]

Taranza must suffer even when he is not present

[leaden terrace]

even when they turned into stars and explode? 🤔

[floral mantle]

Player Choice...

[proper spindle]

Also uh

[novel fog]

yeah, even when they are swallowed

[floral mantle]

Kirby probably didn't kill most of them. It's all the player's fault

[proper spindle]

Tons of characters explode into stars and then show up like nothing happened

[novel fog]

true lmao

[proper spindle]

I think everyone just has the power to teleport or something

[leaden terrace]

were killing their families

no biggie

[proper spindle]

Or it’s a gameplay thing and we shouldn’t think too hard about it

[floral mantle]

If anything, blame the player (Especially a certain game theorist) that Kirby is killing the enemies.

[novel fog]

like Mr. Shine and Mr. Bright was fine after Adventure

despite exploding

[floral mantle]

Whispy Woods is fine, even after you burn him down/ cut him up/ shock him to death/ freeze him

[odd rover]

Yeah it’s just a gameplay thing

[maiden swan]

I like to think he can just regrow himself fine with an apple

[floral mantle]

And... Kracko remembers everything, right?

[leaden terrace]

kracko never dies tho

[odd rover]

Wrong reply but still

[leaden terrace]

hes like the one character to specifically appear whenever and wherever he can

[floral mantle]

Wait, does Kracko remember every battle?

[leaden terrace]

as long as there are clouds

yeah

[odd rover]

I wonder how the inhaled enemies revive

[leaden terrace]

like way back to super star he remembers everything

[proper spindle]

Say it with me now, “MatPat is always wrong.”

[floral mantle]

I wonder how would a 3D Kracko fight play out like

[odd rover]

I can see how normally attacked enemies “revive” like they’re probably just being pushed out of the way

[odd rover]

Blowout Blast

[faint glen]

actually i wouldnt be surprised if part of the reason kracko wasnt in fl because they didnt figure out how a fight with him would work

the lightning being significant would be kinda tough

[leaden terrace]

he seems like a pretty simple boss i dont see why he would be difficult to work with

[proper spindle]

That or having him appear doesn’t make much sense

[leaden terrace]

maybe hes just not relevant

[faint glen]

well none of his regular attacks would work in 3d

[leaden terrace]

tropic woods was a given cus whispy woods appears in all kirby games

[odd rover]

Kracko watching everyone get sucked into another universe:

[floral mantle]

Kracko: I'll remember this Kirby

[lost briar]

back in the old days it was a memory thing, the game didn't usually have enough memory to remember everything that was on screen so it would reload the enemies when it reached a part of the screen

[granite cedar]

Demolishing arena as Dedede is so much fun. I'll keep trying to optimize my run

[lost briar]

nowadays it's kept for consistency

[faint glen]

or so u dont have to restart a level if u need an ability

[floral mantle]

or... maybe Kirby doesn't really kill the enemies

[leaden terrace]

"Finally, I have everything to myself!" (Immediately a giant portal appears and Kirby, Bandana Waddle Dee, and Elfilin are thrown out) "WHAT THE FUCK"

[odd rover]

Adeleine, Magolor, Gooey, the Animal Friends, Marx, and whoever else watching the vortexes open:

[leaden terrace]

👏 👏 👏

[faint glen]

daroach hearing about the treasure and cursing himself he didnt follow:

[odd rover]

Oh yeah the entirety of Forgotten Land was probably like an hour on Popstar

[lost briar]

Forgotten Land and Magolor epilogue don't have respawning enemies for the sake that otherwise it would be farmable currency in some way

[tawdry mulch]

i just realized the magic points in magolor epilogue are apple seeds after getting to play it i feel dumb

[floral mantle]

ok, Kirby just hates the beast pack for kidnapping them Waddle Dees

[leaden terrace]

forgotten land doesnt work the same way as 2d games do

[lost briar]

or in FL's case, be more trouble than it's worth to figure out what constitutes "off-screen" in 3D

[odd rover]

Wait given Elfilin was nursed back to health in like 5 seconds it’s possible the entire story took less than a second

[leaden terrace]

and magolor epilogue, p sure its just cus u play as magolor

who doesnt need to suck in enemies

[faint glen]

its cuz of the combo system i think

also that

[leaden terrace]

i guess that too

[lost briar]

since off screen might include what's directly in front of you but being unloaded

[floral mantle]

Time works werid that way

[odd rover]

Time dilation

Kirby became interstellar

[granite cedar]

FL does have respawnable enemies but it's mainly those that give abilities that are required for puzzles

[leaden terrace]

yeah true

[lost briar]

even then it's not off screen style

[floral mantle]

Can't wait for the next 3d game to have a Kracko Boss Fight

[lost briar]

more like room guarder

[floral mantle]

I miss that cloud

[leaden terrace]

(appears twice in Star Allies, four times if you count twins as two)

[odd rover]

How long do you think it took for the people on New World to see them again

[leaden terrace]

probably like 30 seconds lol

[floral mantle]

but Star Allies is like from 2018, right? Been like 5 years.

[floral mantle]

several weeks

[leaden terrace]

to be honest there isnt really a mainline game between SA and FL

[floral mantle]

true...

[unique gyro]

It's probably to be coy about the fact that "old friend" is supposed to be pre-mirror Sectonia

[proper spindle]

Yeah I know

[novel fog]

I mean, they had a lore explanation for it even back then at least either way lol

[unique gyro]

a classic Kumazaki Kirby "If you know, you know" moment

[proper spindle]

But I like the idea that Magolor named the sectonia mask after her monstrous form just to bully Taranza

[floral mantle]

Where did Joronia name originated from?

[leaden terrace]

i find it really interestign that they avoided calling her sectonia though

nor even call her joronia

[novel fog]

Dream Buffet CPU nickname

[leaden terrace]

i wonder what theyre cooking

[floral mantle]

oh I see

[novel fog]

maybe they didn't want to reveal too much or make anyone mad

[floral mantle]

Amazing Mirror 2 (I'm coping.)

[leaden terrace]

true

too early

[odd rover]

Make anyone mad wah

[novel fog]

so they just went with neither of the names lol

[novel fog]

some people do not like the name Joronia

idk why but lol

[faint glen]

i mean "spoilers" i guess

[lost briar]

personally I just don't really care

[novel fog]

yeah, I would be fine with Joronia and stuff

[odd rover]

Couldn’t she just

Taken a new name after taking enough hosts and therefore Joronia and Sectonia would both be real

[novel fog]

yeah

[lost briar]

her Sectonia name is supposed to come from the words "near" and "insect"

[odd rover]

The Sectonia conservative party wildin

[leaden terrace]

i personally dont mind joronia

just cus its consistent with taranza's naming scheme

wouldnt be too far off

[lost briar]

it's not surprising that people don't like joronia I guess when some people hate the idea that Sectonia stole her current form from someone else

[leaden terrace]

plus isnt bee sectonia always called queen sectonia, and not just sectonia?

[lost briar]

and choose to believe she mutated herself directly into this form via the dimension mirror

[maiden swan]

Hasn’t she taken multiple forms though

[odd rover]

Isn’t that literally the story

[leaden terrace]

i think thats p much the implication

queen sectonia looks nothing like spidtonia

theres also the complete lack of the other 4 hands

[lost briar]

Taranza and Sectonia were the same species so they also have the same magic abilities

[leaden terrace]

so its easy to guess that she mustve taken her body from a queen wasp

...is that why she took on the title of queen?

[lost briar]

their species being called a parasite and being specialized in "taking control" or whatever

[leaden terrace]

wait they were called PARASITES?

[maiden swan]

More like old friend was said to take her forms through parasitic means

[lost briar]

something along those lines

it's like
the way they used their powers basically made them parasites

[maiden swan]

Either something her species is capable of or some black magic she got from the mirror

Who knows

[leaden terrace]

i guess thats totally fair

i thought you meant ltieral parasites

[lost briar]

Taranza uses it to control Dedede like a puppet
Sectonia used it to take control of hosts like the Dreamstalk

so parasitic behavior at least

[maiden swan]

I would call the first one hypnosis rather than parasitism

But I could see why you would

[leaden terrace]

is it really hypnosis when taranza literally used strings to control dedede's body

[maiden swan]

Uhhhhh

Maybe

[leaden terrace]

oh yeah also

both sectonia and taranza show similar magic attacks

so its likely they just know them before the mirror

[maiden swan]

Fair point

But when does Taranza learn how to use rapiers

[coarse scaffold]

it may not be canon but it's still true

[coarse scaffold]

mood

[novel fog]

I mean he could probably learn if he wanted to

but anyway yeah Sectonia and Taranza share similar magic, and both specialize in あやつり (puppetry or manipulation) magic
they can also both create and/or summon jewels

[coarse scaffold]

diancie moment

https://tenor.com/view/diancie-used-diamond-storm-pokemon-gif-19480608

literally

💀

[granite cedar]

fucking fuck the last actual extra mission for me is to win all games in magoland tour level 3 and i hate it with burning passion grrrrrrrrrrrr

[fathom cradle]

Some games are just automatic no gos if I see them

[granite cedar]

same

[fathom cradle]

Thankfully if you back out before starting it changes which subgames are picked

[granite cedar]

but the thing that frustated me rn

is that i was confident i would get this one

but i... somehow lost in egg catcher BY ONE EGG TO CPU

wanted to throw controller out in the window lol

[fathom cradle]

[lost briar]

I wonder if there is someone out there who's doing Magoland Tour with Ninja Dojo, Egg Catcher, Kirby on the Draw, and Crackity Hack

[maiden swan]

The ai dedede was so cracked on ninja dojo

After the first 3 targets I pretty much said “nah you got it”

[main fractal]

My favourite Kirby genre is ||Getting the op finisher ability at the final boss||

||Also why are Galacta Knights eyes open in the crystal?||

[coarse scaffold]

he opens his eyes wdym?

[proper spindle]

Truth be told I just cheated the minigames

I just plugged in some controllers and selected the hard difficulty

[cosmic scroll]

||His eyes stay open even in the crystal, I think it is just a visual glitch or mistake and doesn't have more deeper meaning.||

[lost briar]

it feels like a visual glitch to me

in the original his eyes faded in so it feels like they forgot to set it here

[pliant socket]

^

Same vibe as the charcoal mouth from super kirby clash 😭

[lost briar]

it wouldn't be Vanpool without some visual detail that annoys us

[pliant socket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/182899928140480512/965408606595989544/unknown.png

I expect no less from the people who made zip lash

and sticker star

[coarse scaffold]

huh

[lost briar]

it will annoy me perpetually how they interpreted the maracas on the Castle Lololo stage as some corrupted texture and simplified them into rectangles

[pliant socket]

TRUE

[ruby narwhal]

Oh fuck, well I’m not unseeing that anytime soon

[granite cedar]

truly conversation of all time

[lost briar]

I'm already annoyed at the localization butchering song titles, I'm not nerded out enough

[floral mantle]

for this game?

[lost briar]

yes

[floral mantle]

uhh... which one they butcher?

is it just Fly Kirby?

[granite cedar]

i think most of them are fine

[lost briar]

one of the glaringly butchered ones is "Four-Headed Guardian Angel: Landia" being turned into just "Guardian Angel: Landia"

[granite cedar]

admittedly this one a bit of a mouthful in english honestly

im personally bothered more by "otherwordly warrior" and "the birthplace of steel"

[lost briar]

space limitations and songs being a mouth shouldn't be a problem considering the sheer length of the Magolor Epilogue song titles

[floral mantle]

but they didn't butcher every song name?

[pliant socket]

They removed the dashes from crowned? 1984

[vocal latch]

No, it's still there.

[novel fog]

also do not like Woods Wayfarer

[lost briar]

CROWNED is the JP name anyway

[pliant socket]

Oh um oops

[coarse scaffold]

i-i-
I-I think you're mistaking hypnosis for like- mind control used in fiction-
im incredibly nervous about pointing this out, but like- hypnosis isn't exactly the same as the mind control in fiction and i know its being used to refer to fiction but at the same time i cant help but point this out being someone who's dabbled in that area and knowing that media misconceptualizes it so often and im so sorry-
||it genuinely took a lot of work to fight my internal anxiety and actually send this ;w;||

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1024805090797826150/1030605136957022258/IMG_7271.gif

[ruby narwhal]

When they have a song title that’s an entire sentences

[leaden terrace]

LOL

i totally get you

[lost briar]

Otherworldly Warrior just does not feel consistent to me

[pliant socket]

Literally me fr dw

Anxiety SUCKS

[coarse scaffold]

😭

[pliant socket]

though I simply own it because I'm better 😎

[lost briar]

they also mistranslated a KF2 song

[coarse scaffold]

i tend to be extremely insecure regarding what i say on the internet especially because ppl could just be like "🤓"

[lost briar]

they thought it had something to do with flying

[pliant socket]

Its ok your thoughts are valid

[lost briar]

so they added the word "flying" into it and made it even more nonsensical with context

[vocal latch]

They did change Distant Traveler to Interdimensional Traveler tho

1984

[coarse scaffold]

at the same time although i may not be very experienced as a hypnotist i'm mainly bothered because a lot of people (to my knowledge) mistakenly believe hypnosis is the same as some kind of witchcraft spell used in works of fiction

[lost briar]

but then they used Far-Flung for Magolor's theme

[granite cedar]

i like how they did use far-flung actually

cute star allies call-back

or. call-forward i guess

[floral mantle]

they changed Under my control to Welcome your new Overlord

[lost briar]

terribly inconsistent in terms of being a translation tho

[coarse scaffold]

i know what i'm talking about, even if not extremely thoroughly, i know the basics

[vocal latch]

Especially when the Lor Starcutter is in the background of that section lol

[granite cedar]

what else is new

[granite cedar]

it's not changed

it was translated for real for the first time

[lost briar]

since we also got Distant Halcandra

[granite cedar]

under my control was a fan name

[coarse scaffold]

hWHAT

[floral mantle]

Oh yeah, you right

[granite cedar]

none of rtdl soundtrack barring 2-3 exceptions had official english names

and even those that used to have english names ended up being retranslated here. like cookie country became "four adventurers - cookie country"

(good future)

[lost briar]

#1077968255232254092 message

[thin prairie]

Sacred Faerie#9691 - #[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

Help me

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Quoted by GrucYord#9062 • [278295447838261251] · Mar 3, 2023, 3:55 AM

[vocal latch]

Returning to Dream Land was changed to Return to Dream Land

[novel fog]

I'd like it if it was same term in JP, but it isn't

[granite cedar]

huh

then yeah this is weird

[coarse scaffold]

I'VE BEEN LIED TO MY WHOLE LIFE

[granite cedar]

but its too tiny of a detail to really get infuriated over imo

[floral mantle]

They change Kirby Adventure Wii to Kirby RTDL

[granite cedar]

maybe im just

used to star allies levels of inaccuracy

so small errors dont phase me anymore

[lost briar]

which is why I'm choosing to hyperfixate on why they just straight up removed four-headed for no reason

[floral mantle]

Why do they change "Kirby's Adventure Wii Deluxe" To "Kirby Return To Dreamland Deluxe?"

[granite cedar]

because kirby's adventure wii is a bad name

[novel fog]

Far-Flung Starlight Heroes is 遥か but Magolor's theme uses 彼方

[vocal latch]

Lmfao IMAGINE in European versions the credits were just called "Adventure Wii"

[granite cedar]

me

me when

jukebox says

"green greens (adventure wii version)"

[floral mantle]

why is there a track called "Help... Me... Kirby?"

[pliant socket]

AHHHHH

NOOOO

[granite cedar]

i want to smack whoever came up with that stupid name in noe lol

[novel fog]

though tbh idk if distant is best word for 彼方 either

[vocal latch]

I think they just
Looked at the world map

And went

"yea adventure wii"

[granite cedar]

yeah

[vocal latch]

Wait I mean level map

Oops

[granite cedar]

i guess there is also food themed level names

[coarse scaffold]

I thought of

[vocal latch]

They just saw High Jump, Whispy and Level Map and went "yup, this sure is a Kirby's Adventure Wii"

[lost briar]

and an extra mode nobody likes

[unreal stag]

it's still funny to me that it's called 'kirby of the stars wii deluxe' in east asian regions

[floral mantle]

At least we are lucky that we didn't get Kirby Adventure's Wii Deluxe translation

[pliant socket]

erm guys akshually kirby's adventure shares similarities with the new wii kirby game so we should name it adventure wii 🤓

[unreal stag]

(it can't be played on a wii)

[granite cedar]

thank god

[coarse scaffold]

,:T don't people complain about kirby games being too easy though?

[granite cedar]

i would actually have to change my console's region just so it wouldnt display that title screen 💀

[lost briar]

people don't like filler either

[floral mantle]

Let's not start the Extra Mode converstation please

[coarse scaffold]

also i personally like it because it makes magolor less of a pushover in base rtdl 😭

[floral mantle]

It got too heated yesterday about it

[pliant socket]

No the extra mode in adventure sucked ass lmao

[coarse scaffold]

why?

[pliant socket]

The one in rtdl was good

[coarse scaffold]

adventure??

wait u mean deluxe?? 😭

[pliant socket]

Yeah kirby's adventure

[coarse scaffold]

justyoureverydaykirbyfan.exe has stopped working

[pliant socket]

The one on the nes

😭

[humble crest]

What's this disrespect to the kirby's adventure wii title 😭

[coarse scaffold]

i wouldn't know then bc i the first kirby games i played were on the wii

[unreal stag]

i agree

[coarse scaffold]

RTDL and epic yarn were the two i remember the most 😭

[unreal stag]

and i beat the whole thing

i'm a super star baby

[pliant socket]

Thats fair!!! I wasnt referring to rtdl dont worry

[unreal stag]

so i can say for certain that it was terrible

[pliant socket]

I had to beat it 3 times for the 100% completion page in wikirby.

Torture.

[unreal stag]

you did that????

[pliant socket]

Yes

The majority of that page was my work

Specifically the screenshots

[floral mantle]

who's brilliant idea is it to call RTDL "Adventure Wii"

[unreal stag]

oh thank you for your help by the way then

[floral mantle]

or the other way around

[pliant socket]

No prob....

[unreal stag]

the original name is hosh no kirby wii

[pliant socket]

It was painful kind of

Cause I had to 100% the spinoffs

[unreal stag]

(i checked it a couple times to make sure of what i needed for 100%

[coarse scaffold]

i don't know what it is but in main mode magolor's a pushover no matter what ability i use and somehow i struggle with goriath
and the same applies to extra mode but magolor poses more of a challenge, sometimes i game over in the another dimension stage, and fatty puffer, goriath, grand doomer, HR-D3, and landia all make me wanna impale my tv

[unreal stag]

kdl2 specifically)

[pliant socket]

Its ok!!!!! I feel your pain

[coarse scaffold]

im pretty sure i almost actually had a heart attack bc of hr-d3 bc i had a bit too much caffeine mixed with a panic attack- 😭

[pliant socket]

Oh definitely, i was missing 100% for a bit before I found out that you needed chao/girl gooey for 100%

[coarse scaffold]

and i was up late so nobody was awake 🙃

[pliant socket]

Ahhhhh that must have been horrible im sorry

[coarse scaffold]

nah it's fine
i didn't let it stop me

like legit all i did was pause the game for a min and go straight back to playing

[humble crest]

Might be biased cause i always called the game like that but adventure wii>>RTDL

[floral mantle]

Ok, then you get Kirby's Adventure Wii Deluxe

[pliant socket]

I'm still mad at the UK....they got a brain training game on switch while us americans got nothing

[floral mantle]

Like... why that?

[coarse scaffold]

ALSO A QUESTION I HAVE ABOUT RTDL
WHY DOES HR-D3 HAVE A CHECKPOINT THAT SKIPS PHASE 1 (metal general) THAT APPLIES EVEN AFTER YOU GAME OVER, BUT NOT FOR PHASE 2

[humble crest]

Im fine with that

Im used to it

[unreal stag]

sudden realization

we have hoshi no kirby

and then hoshi no kirby super deluxe

and then hoshi no kirby ultra super deluxe

and then hoshi no kirby wii

and now hoshi no kirby wii deluxe

[coarse scaffold]

ALSO WHY DOES MAGOLOR ALSO HAVE SIMILAR CHECKPOINT BS, I SWEAR I GAME OVER'D TO MAGOLOR SOUL AND THERE WAS STILL A CHECKPOINT

another question
they didn't include all super abilities in magolor's phase 1 in DX, did they..?
i was literally complaining to my bf that they should do that like- the day before it's release

[unreal stag]

they did (they combined snow bowl and and super hammer)

[coarse scaffold]

oh my god

[humble crest]

They should have kept the different title based on your region tbh, like idk maybe some of my european brothers don't know if this is a new game or a remastered version lol ( even if 99% it's clear what it is, but yeah you get the point)

[coarse scaffold]

hang on, wdym by that?

[unreal stag]

he slams the big hammer and ice falls

and everythings on ice

[coarse scaffold]

no, that's not what i mean

wait

are you referring to phase 2

when magolor uses the abilities

[unreal stag]

oh phase 1

[coarse scaffold]

yeah

i was saying that kirby should use all of the abilities

[unreal stag]

i actually haven't seen what phase 1 looks in deluxe

[coarse scaffold]

to me it makes the battle seem more climactic

not to mention the way it is normally triggers my ocd, ultra sword only takes down one portion of the shield even if it's the last one

and aside from that i actually don't like that they combined snow bowl and grand hammer but not flare beam and monster flame

[pliant socket]

I mean they did combine flare beam and monster flame

In normal mode

[lost briar]

no?

they're separate attacks

[fathom cradle]

They mean the magolor phase 2 attacks, not the ones you use in phase 1

?

Otherwise that statement is just wrong

[lost briar]

you do still use it twice at least like the other abilities

[coarse scaffold]

the thing that irritates me is the fact that it's in separate battles

[fathom cradle]

Plays in multiplayer and someone else gets the kill

[coarse scaffold]

i think i read about a glitch like that

[fathom cradle]

Nah it's not a glitch

It's just that the shield disappears so technically anyone can attack it

[pliant socket]

OH

[floral mantle]

How difficult is the Kirby Level 3 AI compare to other minigame AIs?

[fathom cradle]

It's just not intended in singleplayer

[pliant socket]

Sorry then

[coarse scaffold]

no i mean like if someone else gets the kill in base i think it causes him to become undead or smth

and also causes the game to freeze

[fathom cradle]

Well maybe there is a very specific circumstance in which that happens but I've seen ppl who are not kirby kill and it doesn't freeze the game

[coarse scaffold]

ah

[fathom cradle]

It's just really anticlimactic lol

[coarse scaffold]

i've never done it before but i read about it on the kirby wiki

[fathom cradle]

[pliant socket]

Which one

[coarse scaffold]

wdym??

hang on lemme see if i can find it

i was wrong u dont just need to attack him

[floral mantle]

so...

How difficult should a Kirby Party Game AI be?

[coarse scaffold]

i have no clue

[floral mantle]

should they be Magoland Level 3 difficult?

[faint glen]

mario party has multiple difficulties idk why kirby wouldnt also

[floral mantle]

True...

[pliant socket]

True...

[thin prairie]

i would love kirby party

old and new subgames in one package

with boards

maybe even the ones from DL2

as bonus games

[ruby narwhal]

Merry magoland deluxe

[vapid kestrel]

Because HR-D3 is a separate boss from Metal General that has two phases, rather than being a separate entity

[vapid kestrel]

Meanwhile Magolor 1 and Magolor 2 are actually considered two separate bosses

Which is why they're split up in the game's original arena ig

It's a thing you can't really discern with any real consistency by playing the game, only looking at the files

[thin prairie]

true

just make NDcube make it to speed up development though

HAL needs to focus on the next main game

[vapid kestrel]

For example, in Planet Robobot, Star Dream phase 1 is considered one boss (MotherComputer), then Star Dream's second and third phases are considered a single boss with two phases (MotherComputerShip)

Meaning if you die to star dream phase 1 or star dream phase 2, you start right before phase 1 or 2 again, but if you die to the nova fight you will have to fight phase 2 again

[thin prairie]

some might think NDcube shouldnt make it but mario party superstars was good

who cares if 9 wasnt to your personal liking NDcube are decent at making party games

[exotic cobalt]

You guys know if you get anything for maxing all levels in epilogue or no?

[thin prairie]

nothing except making the game easier

i think

[exotic cobalt]

Thought so too, just wanted to make sure

[vapid kestrel]

There is a glitch that freezes the game and the specific circumstance is by damaging Magolor while he's in the middle of blocking Kirby's Ultra Sword
Cause you're either supposed to hit him with normal attacks and kill him regularly or use the Ultra Sword and do the finisher sequence, and normally if you lock swords with him all the other players stop moving and therefore can't attack, but if there's a player with a Spark shield the game doesn't get rid of that hitbox and it can kill Magolor while he's in the middle of the sword struggle with Kirby which causes the game to softlock

[vapid kestrel]

ah funny image

[faint galleon]

Is that glitch still in RTDX

[pliant socket]

9 was good....

Also wii party was a banger

[thin prairie]

9 was very good

i like it a lot

just felt the need to say that since most people dont

[vapid kestrel]

Lmao that'd be hilarious if it was

Or better yet, inb4 the glitch is gone with spark but you can perform it with like
The souvenir item bomb or some shit

[vast basin]

lol this happened to me

[fathom cradle]

[vast vapor]

in the original?

[floral mantle]

question... anyone remember... Feburary 12th, 2023?

[vocal latch]

funniest screenshot

[brave crag]

||Pay For One's Sin !||

[vocal latch]

not the same dialogue but I got two tweets where Magolor had the same expression LOL ||(Klu & Gigi jumpscare)||

[vocal latch]

very based

[nova venture]

Brazilian dialogue sweep

[vale river]

Bandee Hi-Jump

[glossy jay]

Guys I fucking love Kirby

[junior fiber]

so true

i love kirby‼️

[shrewd turtle]

that was me birthday

[floral mantle]

Lava Levels or Underwater Level?

Which one you prefer?

[thin prairie]

hi-jump is so funny

it worked a lot better in adventure

[thin forge]

the final not-doomer energy sphere in extra mode

absolute hell

i hate it so much

[vocal latch]

Is that the key one

[thin forge]

yea

something i didnt know: keys have a time limit for existing

[vocal latch]

I always use Spark for it

Which I'm pretty sure is why you fight Dubior in the same level lol

But yeah it still requires you to be VERY careful

[dreamy canyon]

hey does anybody know what track 199 in the jukebox would happen to be
its the only one i dont have

[solar harbor]

WE NEED THIS BUT IN RTDL DX LMAO

[vocal latch]

||Have you done the Extra Stage in Magolor Epilogue or beaten The True Arena?||

[fathom cradle]

That one is|| doing all 120 missions in magoland||

[dreamy canyon]

alright another reason to ||hate samurai kirby|| wonderful

[gusty current]

Samurai Kirby my detested

[junior fiber]

i dont like how slow paced samurai kirby is compared to the other minigames but i dont hate it

[floral mantle]

I hate Egg Catcher more

[junior fiber]

egg catcher slander will NOT be tolerated

[floral mantle]

Fine. Ninja Kirby I hate doing in Mago Tour

Minigame slanders:
Kirby on the Draw when AI doesn't cheat for once

[cursive sandal]

I hate egg catcher

[solar harbor]

I think Egg Catcher Level 3 is easy

[celest grove]

it isn't

I spent days just to get 28

[solar harbor]

It only took me a few hours, most of my hours were spent playing Story Mode tbh

[celest grove]

Partially because I got real sick a few days ago

and it absolutely messed with my reflexes

It absolutely made me slower at Samurai Kirby too

[queen rune]

I think a Ancient as the main villain would serve as a fitting finale to this "era" of Kirby.

[celest grove]

they would never do that lol

it would never be clear

[queen rune]

I think they could and it could be cool

[floral mantle]

Not gonna lie, I think this new era is based on 'Dimension travel'...

Star allies kinda ended the previous era

[celest grove]

Kirby lore has never been super clear

it was always a mess of vague stuff

though

||Magolor Epilogue's ending is one of those rare moments when it was clear cut||

[faint glen]

||Idk i think magolor epilogue was very clear yeah||

[celest grove]

||which is highly unusual||

[faint glen]

||not sure how much theyll ever start connecting anything but i think this was very satisfying||

[solar harbor]

||It finally made a Miiverse post real||

[celest grove]

But I still think HAL would never make an ancient obvious

[floral mantle]

I still don't know why ||someone intrepet Magolor Epilogue as RTDL/ RTDL Deluxe/Clash are 3 separate universes||

[celest grove]

they would dodge around any confirmation

[floral mantle]

honestly, Ancients should remain anonymous

[queen rune]

||I just personally think having an ancient as the villain (especially if they're human like Forgotten Land teased) would be really cool in a Kirby game. We're well used to eldritch horror villains by now, so it would be neat for Kirby to face a different kind of monster.||

[floral mantle]

wait, is Hyness an ancient?

[faint galleon]

||But like...they're all dead as far as we can tell||

[celest grove]

I'm not sure if Forgotten Land ever confirmed the inhabitants were ancients?

[faint galleon]

||Unless they're human, there's Adeline, but that's about it||

[cursive sandal]

definitely affiliated in some way

[celest grove]

is there any actual hint about that

[floral mantle]

so far it's speculations

[faint galleon]

Never confirmed but it would make less sense if they weren't

[odd rover]

Even then she’s probably not descended from New World

[faint glen]

I mean not really?

[floral mantle]

Though I think ||Halcandra is one of the settlements of the Forgotten Land Residents.|| Mostly because of ||Egg Eggine||

[queen rune]

At the very least, the people from the Forgotten Land are human, because the singer of the intro to forgotten land appeared at thelastKirby symphony, and is an actual character in the Kirby series

[odd rover]

Measurements in Wondaria Speedway say the rider must be 3’ to 6’2” in order to ride

[faint glen]

Please dont make a kirby anniversary band canon

[floral mantle]

so how tall is Kirby now?

[faint glen]

Its not gonna work

[celest grove]

well humans is one thing

[odd rover]

8 inches

[celest grove]

but are they even the ancients

lol

[floral mantle]

even up against that measurement?

[odd rover]

8 inches just happens to be half the height of 6ft

[faint glen]

What

[floral mantle]

Maybe the dimension vortex mess up Kirby's height?

[celest grove]

it messed with everyone's height then lol

[odd rover]

Idk it’s weird

[floral mantle]

I mean... Mouthful Mode

[leaden terrace]

neichel 😂 😂 😂 🤣 🤣 🤣 😂 🤣

[odd rover]

Height in Kirby is weird let’s not discuss it further

[leaden terrace]

or was it reichel id

[odd rover]

Neichel

[celest grove]

neichel

[leaden terrace]

okay Good im not stupid

[celest grove]

Still waiting for Neichel's reveal though

as in like

[odd rover]

Who plays her

[celest grove]

yes

[odd rover]

Me too

[leaden terrace]

i wonder if shes really a human?

[floral mantle]

Neichel's appearance in Anniversary is probably non canon

[celest grove]

who knows

[leaden terrace]

i mean most likely. its weird people suddenly believe thats neichel lol

[celest grove]

I mean they still play pretend with it

[leaden terrace]

but again the reveal in FL was so insane i get why were driven crazy

[celest grove]

they still don't do like

[faint glen]

Reveal in FL?

[odd rover]

Well that is supposed to be the Neichel correct

[celest grove]

"look it's Neichel, but her actual name is <something>"

[faint glen]

Ok now im confused

[leaden terrace]

like the whole endgame reveal

[celest grove]

no, they just call her Neichel

and nothing else

[floral mantle]

Maybe let's keep Real Life Kirby events and Kirby Games seperate

[leaden terrace]

the implication that the HUMAN LANGUAGE exists in kirby

[celest grove]

For now nothing is confirmed canon

[odd rover]

Neichel is a stage name after all

[floral mantle]

last thing I need is a bunch of lore hunters reserving seats at Kirby Cafe for Lore info

like, imagine they make Kirby Cafe Canon...

oh the riot

[celest grove]

Gigi already did that

[leaden terrace]

like, regardless if its english or not, this is clearly human language were dealing with and i think that just makes it even more mind boggling

[odd rover]

Everything is canon

[floral mantle]

except the anime

[faint glen]

I do think fl is probably originally human settlements

[odd rover]

Wake up the fog is coming

[celest grove]

it's still random how they still haven't revealed who she actually is though

[leaden terrace]

and yet, theres this singer whos singing in a completely different language

[celest grove]

probably in the next 3D game

[leaden terrace]

im telling you

[floral mantle]

Taiko Drum is canon to Kirby, and since Touhou have a collab with it, Touhou is canon to Kirby

[leaden terrace]

theyll just randomly put her identity as a hard to find cameo

[odd rover]

Has anyone considered that New World could be an Earth equivalent that had identical lifeforms like The Planet in FFVII

[queen rune]

I personally think the fact that Forgotten land clearly takes alot of references to our world, the voiced dialouge in Lab discovera, and the aforementioned singer being a character in the series (who will probably show up in a new kirby game) , all point the the FL inhabitants being human

[leaden terrace]

people dispute that saying that all the locations are not english or anything

but yknow

that language actually IS english

so like...

welp

[odd rover]

It is English just different script

[leaden terrace]

this IS human

[floral mantle]

Language evolve

Things change over time

[odd rover]

One time I had a theory that New World script was Kirby trying to interpret latin characters

[queen rune]

Yeah, at the very least they're human. I don't think it's meant to be exactly our earth, but at least an equivalent. It would also explain how they were advanced enough to capture and study Fecto Elfilis

[celest grove]

that... could have been funny

[leaden terrace]

it could!!

[celest grove]

instead we got Kirby's terrible writing

and based Waddle Dee who still bothers with it

[leaden terrace]

also

[faint glen]

Well kirby cant read

[odd rover]

Elfilin’s the only character who can actually read it along with the Beast Pack

[floral mantle]

how bad is Kirby's writing?

[leaden terrace]

the scaling of the locations most likely also implies

[floral mantle]

he's learning tho

[queen rune]

still bad, but he's getting better

[leaden terrace]

that kirby is like as tall as at least a human's knee

[vast vapor]

can’t be worse than mine

[leaden terrace]

or just their leg

and i just love that

[floral mantle]

I heard a joke about how it's not Kirby that can't read, just Meta Knight have terrible writing.

[celest grove]

I remember reading someone saying Kirby couldn't read the letter in Kirby Fighters 2 because Meta Knight & Dedede wrote it with too many flavored words and Kirby couldn't get it

as a hc

[leaden terrace]

ksdjlshdlsd

[odd rover]

Long time ago I found out actually matches the irl height of a semi-truck

[celest grove]

and I think that's perfect

[leaden terrace]

wdym

[celest grove]

I can see MK being way too good with words

that it makes Kirby's head spin

[faint glen]

mk is definitely pretentious like that

[celest grove]

or he wrote in cursive and Kirby has a hard time with it

lol

[faint glen]

LOL maybe

[odd rover]

If Kirby was that tall then the Big Rig has the same dimensions as an irl semi-truck

[leaden terrace]

what about dedede

[celest grove]

Dedede just trusts MK

[leaden terrace]

Omg yeah

its amazing

[celest grove]

Also MK is the only bookworm that I know of in Kirby universe lol

and Magolor

I almost forgot Magolor

[lofty condor]

Dedede would have neat hand writing but he writes everything to big (like me)

[celest grove]

Magolor clearly knows how to read

[main fractal]

Stamp ralley is the best "levelling" up system in the Kirby games

Can't stand what fighters 2 and buffet have

[solar harbor]

That book Meta Knight was reading on a knoll in the intro cutscene to Kirby's Return to Dream Land & Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe

[floral mantle]

Stamp Rally should come back for a Kirby Party game

[leaden terrace]

||hes read from a dusty tome no less, thats how he found out about the master crown||

[celest grove]

Magolor is a true preservationist like me

[floral mantle]

I find out Kirby's canonical height

[faint glen]

magolor probably speaks like 5 languages

and he knows slang in all of them too

[odd rover]

I non-ironically love seeing my stamps tally up

[leaden terrace]

and yet he cant find a proper accent 😭

[faint glen]

it is a satisfying sound

[floral mantle]

Stamp Rally should show up in a Kirby Party Game

or a Kirby Carnival game

[faint glen]

i do kinda like the idea of like
magolor uses a ton of slang as a way to like characterize him as foreign kinda

[floral mantle]

Kirby Carnival with stamps makes sense imo

[main fractal]

Fighters 2 fans when you don't need 10k stamps between masks

[faint glen]

lmaoo

[celest grove]

"yo! Teacher can I bomb the school"

[floral mantle]

Kirby Carnival game when?

[faint glen]

"wait you can just get things without grinding?"

[ocean mauve]

I mean tbh finding a foot-or-so tall human that wants to cosplay kirby must be kinda difficult

[ruby narwhal]

Fighting rampage doomers in ta as base Kirby is going to drive me insane

[leaden terrace]

his accents literally like, 'hey kaabii have you been gat'erin them shep'arts?"

[main fractal]

I wish Magolors bombs looked like this

[ocean mauve]

oh Jesus I wish you luck

[odd rover]

Smallest human ever is 1’2” simply just get them smh

[ocean mauve]

if you're doing no ability

[ruby narwhal]

Already ended two runs

[ocean mauve]

gotta hit 'em up fr

[ocean mauve]

they wouldn't be so bad if ||they didn't litter the screen with boom booms||

[odd rover]

Do you think you can pull Magolor by the hand and it would “detach”

[celest grove]

nah it would just go far

[ocean mauve]

there's an invisible bungee cord connecting his hands to his body

[ruby narwhal]

Their erratic movements with multiple being in play constantly makes it even worse

[celest grove]

or-

that

[leaden terrace]

im p sure hell just get pulled by it

[odd rover]

If you let go would it spring back and slap him in the face

[celest grove]

nah

[ocean mauve]

need someone to make a comic of this

marx of course would be doing the pulling bc he's a dickhead

[odd rover]

How does Marx even grab him

[ocean mauve]

ON THAT NOTE ||interesting that master crown has marx's vines attack||

[ocean mauve]

teef

[floral mantle]

it makes sense though, imo. ||It's a tree||

[junior fiber]

perhaps another soul boss moment

[celest grove]

||tbh it makes way more sense there||

[floral mantle]

Though it makes sense because ||It's a tree||?

[junior fiber]

if the ||crown counts as one||

i wonder if they're actually cooking something or they just like referencing past moves

[leaden terrace]

i mean

this is the first time theyve referenced this move in a while i believe

i think they might be cooking smth

[junior fiber]

probably both

[odd rover]

You think that Magolor’s skills are his normal skills or they came from the Master Crown

[leaden terrace]

honestly former

[vast vapor]

that seems like the kind of thing they’d do for shit and giggles

[leaden terrace]

we know magolor is as strong as he can be thanks to ME

wait

im calling it ME

😭

epilogue

[junior fiber]

i am not shitting NOR giggling 😡

[floral mantle]

tbf, ||Master Crown having vine moves makes a lot of sense because... he's a tree||

[leaden terrace]

so like

when he becomes traitor

[vast vapor]

true

[leaden terrace]

hes probably just, somewhat stronger than he was

[celest grove]

ME, more like

YOU

[leaden terrace]

ME. YOU.

[junior fiber]

ME is a funny acronym

[leaden terrace]

||trees dont make seeds, nor do they have vines...||

[junior fiber]

taranza prologue is TP (toilet paper)

[odd rover]

Is it true that the ||Red Fruit|| references the ||Fruit of Knowledge|| in Japanese

[junior fiber]

wouldn't be surprised

[floral mantle]

||it's a tree tho. || TBF, ||Trees also don't jump and shoot air bullets||

[vast vapor]

||give apple me give plant apple me plant apple give me plant apple give me you||

[junior fiber]

||master crowns thoughts during the fight ^||

[leaden terrace]

so true

[maiden swan]

||You plant tree? Tree plant you||

[vapid kestrel]

||Wdym trrees don't make seeds 😭 ||

[faint galleon]

||It's called FRUIT||

[solar harbor]

||Yes they can! Just ask Whispy Woods ||

[vapid kestrel]

||Mfs when they find out a fruit is just a container for seeds||

(NSFW)

[junior fiber]

NAKED

[sand frigate]

i juust beat the epilogue

||did i just fight a fucking tree as the final boss lol||

[leaden terrace]

||I mean they aren't the ones with the seed, technically it's the fruit||

[coarse scaffold]

||im telling you man whispy woods has had enough||

[sand frigate]

tag

[leaden terrace]

Ur it

[coarse scaffold]

apologies

[vast vapor]

||yeah||

[coarse scaffold]

personally i prefer being tagged in replies bc otherwise im probably not going to respond and if someone says something related to information i need in an active chat i may never know what they said 😭
and the info will def be lost if its in a thread like this

[sand frigate]

nonono

i didnt mean that

i meant

spoiler tag

[coarse scaffold]

OH

😭

[sand frigate]

bc of context