[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

[maiden crane]

i mean

why would he

[leaden terrace]

he prob doesnt care LOL

[queen rune]

Magolor not being an ancient and just being an ancient fanboy is kinda funny though. I like it more than him being Halcandra himself

[leaden terrace]

agree

hes such a nerd

[granite cedar]

i think its funny because

[maiden crane]

i mean even if he doesnt care does he really have a reason to

[granite cedar]

at least in the novels

[gilded veldt]

yeah it fits his character for him to lie about being from Halcandra lol

[maiden crane]

like, ||master crown is poofed, theres no "lessons of history" to really learn||

[granite cedar]

meta knight is ALSO a halcandran lore nerd (and being a lore nerd in general since he knew a bunch of stuff about ruins on popstar)

so like.

magolor can troll him now

"i know more than youuuuuuuuu dooooooooo"

[leaden terrace]

and kinda makes u feel more bad for him actually cause he basically forced himself to stay in halcandra all alone for a long time

[maiden crane]

the halcandrans definitely made the master crown to produce infinite food

[queen rune]

Magolor was probably just some nobody wandering the universe looking for a place of his own (and or also to be respected/loved/feared), came across Halcandra, and became obsessed with the lore of these "great and prosperous people". So much so that he tried to pass himself off as being from there

[leaden terrace]

he wasnt even there in the first place he didnt have the 'i was born there so im used to it' he just stayed there

[granite cedar]

magolor unironically sending meta knight "does he know" images with no context, driving meta knight insane

[leaden terrace]

with likely no contact to anyone

thats kinda fucked up

[queen rune]

"Yes Kirby. I am one of the GREAT PEOPLE of the Halcandran race. I know SO much about the many magical artifacts we made."

[thin willow]

He was doing it for power so like

[granite cedar]

it does make it seem like he was a genuine archaeologist

[leaden terrace]

yeah

[granite cedar]

for all it's worth

[thin willow]

Still a greedy nerd though

[leaden terrace]

but being in such a dangerous place all by yourself and for a very very long time no less shouldve taken a toll on ur mind

[queen rune]

Yeah, Magolor NOT being Halcandran himself does make him more interesting.

Same with Haltmann and Susie not being related to the ancients

[granite cedar]

it seems like at first it was just curiosity

its when he found LOR he became obsessed with power

yes.

and for cool hal room

[thin willow]

I don't know why people used the extra stage for grinding when they could've just used the final trickery room

[queen rune]

And then he found out about the all powerful MASTER CROWN and it was a wrap for him. He basically went full "I WANT"

[granite cedar]

according to magolor ex pause screen he knew about it for a while but thought it was a fairy tale

he believed the story only when he found lor

[queen rune]

"Oh word? This thing can make me GOD?? GIMME."

[leaden terrace]

he really seems like hes someone whos had those ambitions for a long time dont you think

he had to go to halcandra, he had to stay there for a long time

[granite cedar]

at first it was probably like

[leaden terrace]

all while thinking its probably fake

[granite cedar]

"lmao im so cool i will research all of those things by myself before anyone else"

then "oh i can be a god"

[leaden terrace]

but as soon as he finds the lor and the master crown he IMMEDIATELY bails out

and initiates his evil plan

[thin willow]

He planted a devil tree for cash
He's not the coolest dude
But he's working on it!

[queen rune]

No wonder he and Marx probably got along

[leaden terrace]

not just that but he KNEW kirby so he ALSO had that in mind at that point too

[queen rune]

Speaking of Marx, I DO like the theory I read somewhere that Marx is a Noddy

[granite cedar]

tbh the more we learn about magolor the less chemistry i see between him and marx. marx seems like a force of nature that can be tamed with food. magolor is more nuanced than that

magolor would probably manipulate marx if anything lol

[thin willow]

Something tells me capitalism magolor and Marx wouldn't get along

[craggy sable]

Marx doesn't understand the economy

[queen rune]

Marx is basically what every memes an "evil Kirby" to be

[craggy sable]

N'or does he care for the economy

[leaden terrace]

i see marx as a smarter person who just got a little cuckoo so i thought he and magolor would at least be acquaintances

[craggy sable]

He will destroy the economy if need be

[granite cedar]

and after everything magolor went through, he doesn't even have much interest in causing trouble besides mild pranks

[granite cedar]

i will say this

now that we know mags is not from halcandra

[thin willow]

Marx doesn't have acquaintances, on the grounds that he's a bit
Too unstable

[granite cedar]

possibility of him meeting up with marx is increased

[leaden terrace]

yeah

[granite cedar]

because it means he travelled for a bit before ending up there

[thin willow]

Marx really is just Kirby if he was an asshole

[leaden terrace]

honestly the both of them are weirdos i think theyd get along if just a bit

if kirby jp twitter showed them doing pranks together then i guess its telling enough

[granite cedar]

tbh twitter also shows sectonia and haltmann being alive

[queen rune]

Yeah. Small and pink/purple, cute looking, loves food, is really powerful, but just chooses to be an asshole instead

[leaden terrace]

its true they are alive

i saw them irl

[granite cedar]

they are alive. in our hearts

[thin willow]

Not haltman

[granite cedar]

lmfao

[queen rune]

This might sound weird, but I think Alex Hirsch would be a pretty fitting VA for an english Magolor.

[granite cedar]

i actually was thinking of tom kenny myself

[leaden terrace]

LOL YES TOM KENNY MAG

[granite cedar]

his more sarcastic voice would fit magolor perfectly

and since he's canonically more high pitched

than most fans think

[leaden terrace]

i was shocked to hear him

[queen rune]

Alex's King/ Bill cipher voice sounds like it would fit for Magolor to me, and he can do both comical and nice as well as menacing like when he's Bill

But I can also see Tom Kenny working too

[leaden terrace]

i personally cant think of a voice for him

but i suppose its closer to his real voice sfx

maybe even w that 16 bit effect that makes him sound so cute

[granite cedar]

i cant think of too many perfect english vas for kirby cast

[queen rune]

similarly, I think Fryda Wolff could also make for a pretty good kirby

[granite cedar]

but i fan casted dedede as dana snyder and never looked back

[leaden terrace]

i always heard taranza having like a more

nerd like voice

[queen rune]

YES. I was just about to say that too. Dana Snyder Dedede is perfect

[leaden terrace]

with a bit of modesty to it

[queen rune]

Spanish Meta Knight will always have a place with me, but I also think Kevin Michael Richardson could be a good Meta Knight

It would basically be like his role as Antauri from SRMTHFG

[granite cedar]

theres this new disney show

ghost and the molly mcgee where dana voices titular ghost

and he's literally just dedede.

this is where it hit me lmao

[queen rune]

Yeah, I was aware of that too

[granite cedar]

plus painter seap shorts

[leaden terrace]

i like the little voice sfx we have w mk

hmph!

[granite cedar]

mmmm!!

he's so reserved he's a funny guy

[leaden terrace]

me when i eat chocolate

[granite cedar]

HIM when he eats parfait

[leaden terrace]

and then u see brawl mk and he doesnt shut up LOL

HYUP HYUP HUYOYOYAH UAAARGH

[queen rune]

I sometimes watch a bit of The Owl House, and that's where I got the idea of Fryda Wolff voicing Kirby, because she also voiced || The collector, another childlike being with phenomenal cosmic powers who wants to have fun and play games. but doesn't know their own strength||

[solar harbor]

I used the Black Hole room 💀

[queen rune]

Speaking of Kirby talking: yay or nay on that front? I think it could work if they go about it like they do with Stitch, where he talks every now and then, but most of the time it's gibberish or sounds.

[leaden terrace]

mmm

i like what we have rn

no poyos but no straight up talking, just kirby being cute

[granite cedar]

if we get another cartoon i definitely would prefer him to talk.

in games he doesn't really need it, since he can express himself without us hearing him saying anything

[leaden terrace]

kirby talking is weird to me but i do appreciate the drama cds

[granite cedar]

we do know that he can talk

since he talked to elfilin and waddle dees in FL

in rtdl its more ambigious because it feels more like magolor is just talking to kirby instead of them having a dialogue

we just never hear his side of conversation

[queen rune]

I think it's always implied that Kirby is "talking" but in a silent protagonist way. otherwise how would any of the new characters know Kirby's name?

[granite cedar]

yeah

[leaden terrace]

i find it more interesting that he was more fixated on the expressions when he reveals a bad thing he did

[granite cedar]

i personally blame anime for creating misconception that kirby is too dumb/literally incapable of speech

[leaden terrace]

like he noticeably gets upset whenever kirby 'looks that way'

||and especially in magolor soul phase 2||

[queen rune]

Yeah, me too tbh. Specifically the english dub, because Kirby DOES talk a bit in the japanese dub

[granite cedar]

i think kirby can be very cute if his dialogue is written like he's overexcited young child

like he's in the novels and drama cds

[leaden terrace]

Fireplace! I love you!

i hope someone gets the reference

[granite cedar]

feels familiar but i cant recall exactly

[leaden terrace]

irts like at the very beginning

[queen rune]

random aside, but I love how the screen slightly shakes when Magolor Soul teleports. It just goes a little to show how powerful it is

[granite cedar]

i think that wasnt in the original

really love that touch

[queen rune]

It was

[leaden terrace]

i dont want him to speak full sentences but i would love him to go HAII HAII MAHOROAAA MAHOROAAAA

[queen rune]

I also like how (at least in extra mode) the black hole move warps the very background itself into it

[leaden terrace]

oh so it actually does warp in extra mode?

i thought it was like TOTALLY gone

[granite cedar]

this is only tangently related

but discussion of this scene in the climax reminded me of the bit from rtdl novelization

where magolor turns into magolor soul form and kirby is all left alone until

Kirby couldn’t help his cry of surprise. It was not enemies that came pouring out of the rift, but allies. Meta Knight and King Dedede. And Bandanna Waddle Dee too!

King Dedede made a spectacularly painful-looking landing and rubbed the back of his head. ”Yeowch! Now just where are we?!“

”King Dedede!“ Kirby ran and leapt onto the shocked king.

”Kirby?! I was wondering where you’d gotten off to…

🥺

[queen rune]

Yeah, I really like the idea of Kirby fighting Magolor alone at first, and then his friends come in to help during Magolor Soul

[leaden terrace]

AWWW

[granite cedar]

i also like how in the novel magolor tries to get kirby to rule the universe with him

[queen rune]

the novels have some great moments of characterization for the cast

[granite cedar]

”There’s no need to make that kind of face,“ Magolor said. ”You ought to know, I don’t hate you. After all, you were such a good little sap, putting in all that hard work just for me!…Heh heh heh!“
He was laughing so hard he was shaking. ”If you really feel like it, I can keep you on as my underling. Then you’ll get to work for me as much as you like!“

”Magolor!“ Kirby roared, his heart ablaze. Kirby almost never got angry, and he’d never hated anyone for what they’d done. But now?

Magolor had pushed him too far.

He took advantage of everyone’s kindness. He made a mockery of their hard work, and even that wasn’t enough for him. He wanted to control EVERYTHING. He was truly an evil wizard.

”I won’t forgive all the things you’ve done! Never!“

[clever hull]

Jesus fighting the ||rampaging doomers|| with no ability SUCKS

[granite cedar]

can imagine

they were the hardest boss for me in epilogue

[clever hull]

Those guys were not designed to be fought abilityless

[leaden terrace]

YSEE I NEVER KNEW ABOUT HOW NOVEL MAG WOULD ACT

BUT THIS IS SO GOOD

and the fact that jedi told me he gaslit taranza

[granite cedar]

he did lmfao

he pretended to be his friend just to take dimensional mirror

[leaden terrace]

I LOVE THAT

[granite cedar]

novel magolor is a devil

[clever hull]

Oh right he did do that didn’t he

[leaden terrace]

i dont read the novels and prob dont have the interest but

magolor is so good in there

[queen rune]

Novel Mags is just a straight up dick

[granite cedar]

i do prefer more nuanced take from the games but there is an appeal in deliciously nasty magolor

[clever hull]

Does magolor appear in any of the manga

[granite cedar]

he appears in a bunch of modern ones

[clever hull]

I remember seeing a shot of him wanting to burn down a school

Have any of them been serialized in the west

[granite cedar]

his probably most famous manga appearance is from pupupu hero

where he has... a crush on chilly

[clever hull]

I know he’s not in manga mania

[granite cedar]

not yet unfortunately

[leaden terrace]

i love the game but at the same time i always wanted a magolor whos literally just a petty asshole

so im happy w both

[granite cedar]

hopefully viz will license more kirby manga in the future

now that FL and seemingly RTDX sell really well

[queen rune]

Something else I like about the novels is how they let Kirby express alot of other emotions such as sadness, anger, and even fear. Yes he's super powerful but he's also practically a kid

[clever hull]

Magolor would dox someone for you if you asked without question but also would explicitly state he has your personal information too

[granite cedar]

kumazaki said that current characterization of the main cast from the novels is the closest thing to their game variations out of any adaptations

[leaden terrace]

i personally feel conflicted to it

[granite cedar]

so i like to think this is how game kirby would act if he could talk

[queen rune]

another moment from the novel I love is when he first sees Void's true form and has a bit of a freakout moment

[granite cedar]

yeah i love that

[leaden terrace]

kirby becoming more emotional means more range of reactions but at the same time hes like a kid

[granite cedar]

yup

[leaden terrace]

i cant imagine a child just

[ocean mauve]

kirby has been shown being visually pissed in games before but seeing him actually say/think it in that excerpt you posted is Sheesh

[leaden terrace]

having to deal with all that 😭

[granite cedar]

oh speaking of that

[ocean mauve]

kirby went off

[granite cedar]

novel kirby fell into depression once

:)

[leaden terrace]

NOOOOO

[ocean mauve]

I should read the novels fr

[granite cedar]

because he got isekai-d into clash universe against his will

and he couldn't see dedede or meta knight or bandana dee for weeks

[leaden terrace]

okay fine maybe ill read the novels too

[granite cedar]

i also love how novels are genuinely best sellers in japan. whenever theres a new novel its always in top 5 best selling books there LMAO

[leaden terrace]

i kinda got a little annoyed by people bringing it up in convos talking specifically about the games but... ah, no hard feelings truly

[granite cedar]

such a contrast against all those serious anime people

and then theres kirby

[granite cedar]

honestly valid

[clever hull]

||Hydriath|| kinda sucks with no ability too

[granite cedar]

but its mostly because theres not much game faithful adaptations 💀

if we had more of those...

[leaden terrace]

that is true..

...how many are there

and where.

[clever hull]

||Super hard to predict boss with nothing to counter said unpredictability||

||You can duck under the punches but that’s it||

[granite cedar]

besides novels theres like. pupupu hero i guess because its only manga to directly adapt plots from the games in story arc form

its most famous adaptation of rtdl arc which spawned 12 chapters, which is massive for kirby manga standards

[ocean mauve]

how many novels are there cuz if there's a million idk if I can swallow it lol

[granite cedar]

theres like 20+ of them

they are not too long

and first few are skippable

if you want to start reading them

i recommend to start with this one

https://friendship-ended-with-pokespe.tumblr.com/post/634659553820196864/kirby-meta-knight-and-the-strongest-warrior-in

[leaden terrace]

thx

[granite cedar]

sorry i derailed channel a bit. so uhhh

||supreme's lord coronation OVERLORD goes hard as hell||

[leaden terrace]

TRUE

imma be

frank

and say, ||i p refer it over the original crowned||

by a MILE

[gray glacier]

Finally finished the True Arena without copy ability,||which took about 46 minutes. How is the Rampaging Doomers fight even more ridiculous than Master Crown?||

[leaden terrace]

holy shit gj!

[granite cedar]

tbh i was never a huge fan of the og crowned

this take made song so much better

[granite cedar]

||rampaging doomers is the new infamous boss fight of the series i feel lmao||

and congrats

[leaden terrace]

i agree actually

i realized how bored i got of it for quite a while so im glad we got this

[granite cedar]

welcome your new overlord also got glow up with the new guitar in dx

[leaden terrace]

YEAH THATS SO COOL

ill miss the higher pitched guitar but i feel this meshes in better

[granite cedar]

original sound had its charm but it sounds more natural now i think

[leaden terrace]

yeah!

[late root]

good fuckin job man

only true pros would attempt that

[austere willow]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/40eebceb54c07a87e6b70c17364a67d5/33a9b5db008a1108-2b/s500x750/49ba16a5ea607edf1a2ea92abb83629564a724b5.pnj

thinking abt this

[leaden terrace]

SADASDFSFSDFDSHFGSD

IT NEVER ENDS

[maiden crane]

are we back to magolor claiming Christianity again

[late root]

choir's louder too

I like that change

they felt too quiet on og crowned

[leaden terrace]

yes yes yes that too

[late root]

egg boy proclaiming his day on egg day

typical of him lmao

[granite cedar]

KUMAZAKIIIIIIIII

i just realized.

we associate magolor with eggs.

he's a fucking easter egg.

[leaden terrace]

||the song feels so much more powerful and substantial now and the medley taken from star allies heklps SOOOO much making sure it doesnt get stale||

[granite cedar]

at this point

[late root]

a literal fuckin one lmao

[leaden terrace]

HE HIDE STAMPS LIKE EASTER EGGS

[austere willow]

in a meta sense AND in a literal sense

He's... an Easter Egg!

[leaden terrace]

EWAIT

OMG

[maiden crane]

have they like
referenced magolor egg in official stuff

[leaden terrace]

IS THAT WHY HES CHOCLATE

IS HE LITERALLY ONE OF THOSE EASTER EGGS THAT ARE MADE OUT OF CHOCOLATE

idk what im saying

[granite cedar]

i can say that 86 is

haru in japanese

aka hal

its a pun that HAL often uses

but idk what 55 means

[leaden terrace]

go go hal

[granite cedar]

oh

OH

[leaden terrace]

idk lol

[gray glacier]

55 sounds like Go!Go! in Japanese.

[late root]

lmao

hal + numbers = genius

[leaden terrace]

highway go go hal

[late root]

i can't freakin spell rn lmao

[granite cedar]

but yeah tis probably "go! go! hal"

[gray glacier]

||So, about the True Arena Magolor Soul's theme, I heard some Magolor's cries randomly added to it during the second loop. Is there any secret message hidden behind them or is it just another "And here we are!" moment to simply surprise the player?||

[granite cedar]

i think those cries form ||"kaabi" sounds to signify that he's crying for kirby's help||

[clever hull]

||Rampaging doomers and hydriath are dreadful copyless from my experience||

||The former was the hardest boss in the epilogue to begin it but doing it with base kirby is miserable||

[solar harbor]

||Look, I almost died to Rampaging Doomers playing as Magolor.||

||Until I finally learned how to use Magic Shield properly, which is OP as fuck||

||All the lingering electric miasma is not fun to deal with if you're not really observant||

[clever hull]

||The hitboxes on them are fairly generous||

||My issue with the fight moreso comes from the lack of ammo and how easy it is to waste it||

[late root]

||have a closer listen...||

||yes those cries sound like "kaa-bi"||

[leaden terrace]

i rly think the ||"kaa-bi" is intentional considering he did scream it when magolor soul dies, i mean everything else is totally gibberish but we know he says kaa-bi so that must be the case||

[gray glacier]

Thanks. They didn't sound like "kaabi" for me actually, so I should listen to it more.

[late root]

||what was the language again? magolorian???||

[leaden terrace]

magolorese

[late root]

thanks

[leaden terrace]

...wait

magolorian

LMAOOOOOOOOO

[late root]

lmaooooo

[late root]

at the 1:40 mark, you may hear it more clearly

[leaden terrace]

im just reminded of the mandalorian so forgive me

[solar harbor]

Honestly that'd fit more than Magolorese imo

But oh no Magoloran Launch

[late root]

OH NO-

[solar harbor]

Hold on guys, you wanna know some Cyon lore?

CYON LORE SNEAKPEEK - This is Fan Art, but cannot be posted in #canvas-curse due to potential spoilers for Magolor Epilogue. Posted with MegaStrimp's help.
||Here is the vectorized version of Master Doomer, the anomalous true leader of the Rampaging Doomers.||
||MASTER DOOMER - SPECIAL PAGE
Hailing from the edges of Another Dimension, this anomalous Doomer is rumored to be the true leader of the Rampaging Doomers of this strange world, only overshadowed by its grand, crowned counterpart. Its interdimensional body is teeming with unbridled anomalous energy, which can cause everything around it, including electronics, to be filled with overclocking power.||

The music video for my new form is planned to be a lore video, taking inspiration from some VTuber lore videos, while also tying in to the new lore introduced in Kirby's Return to Dream Land Deluxe.

The second image is intended to be one of the frames from it.

[late root]

goddamn

it fits to the lore perfectly

love the design too

[solar harbor]

||Master Doomer now also has a special description for when it's fought in the True Arena!

MASTER DOOMER - True Arena SPECIAL PAGE
The Master of the Edges brought forth the creation of the Overclocked Cyborg and a blue marble nearly brought down to chaos. It breached into Dimension Gaia as the edges of Another Dimension collapsed to oblivion when an atoning wizard found himself an exit. Drive it back before it and its Rampaging Doomers wreak havoc!||

[solar harbor]

Thank you

[late root]

welcome

[late root]

ooooooooh

[solar harbor]

||BTW fun fact about this - Master Doomer also has a similar attack to Grand Doomer where it spawns a portal that sends a lot of weaker Rampaging Doomers flying.||

||BTW because of the existence of Grand/Crowned Doomer, the Master Doomer is just second-place in terms of its power. You can tell by the number of tail-feathers, which is nine.||

[late root]

||it IS nine... that's... huh||

[solar harbor]

Fun fact by the way, I had to research WiKirby for that.

So basically, ||Master Doomer is in the middle of Greater Doomer and Crowned Doomer's power||

[heady relic]

King Dedede True Arena in 11:46
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6U0PxMaBkA||

[solar harbor]

Holy shit GG dude

[heady relic]

not me tho

[solar harbor]

OH LMAO

[gray glacier]

I heard that "kaabi" now. Imagine Ando recording those voice clips.

[granite cedar]

NICE

dedede in rtdx is lowkey busted. i want to try to learn how to optimize my run so itll be quicker

[ocean mauve]

that triple jump is busted but I always fuck up the timing lmao

but yeah it does so much damage and has i-frames the whole time like ok kumazaki it seems you have a favorite

[granite cedar]

he's also in general more powerful than hammer kirby

if he had fire properties hammer kirby would be totally obsolete

[granite cedar]

he doesn't even hide it! people asked what is his favorite kirby character on 25th anniversary concert and his first answer was dedede

[austere willow]

does the fire properties do anything outside of levels

[granite cedar]

idk

i mean like in general

[heady relic]

no. bosses have no weakness in rtdl

[granite cedar]

if he had em there would be no reason to ever use hammer kirby

[austere willow]

oh you mean like Forgo Masked

[ocean mauve]

I swear dedede's hammer flip does more than regular hammer flip but I can't prove it lol

at the very least it feels better

[granite cedar]

it is correct

[heady relic]

they do the same damage but dedede's range is bigger

[granite cedar]

yeah thats the thing

even regular swing is more powerful due to range

[gray glacier]

Wait, does Dedede have any shortcomings that hammer Kirby doesn't? Like larger hitbox or slower moving speed? I thought he was basically a better version of hammer Kirby.

[heady relic]

larger hitbox
that's the only disadvantage in deluxe

[granite cedar]

in original rtdl he was much weaker

in dx he was buffed

plus new moves

[heady relic]

in the original his hammer flip only does half the damage

[solar harbor]

Hey btw for those playing True Arena, who among you brought Maxim Tomatoes from Merry Magoland?

[granite cedar]

i did 😛 want to try later not to use them though

just for fun

[solar harbor]

GOD

Oh man I can't wait to cheese the whole thing

AHAHAHAH

[granite cedar]

yeah you can do that via souvenir items

[heady relic]

btw I tested the movement speed

dash: ice=water>mecha>kirby=meta=dedede=bandee

aerial speed
horizontal: mecha>wing
vertical: wing>mecha

[granite cedar]

makes sense

[heady relic]

I forgot to test meta's hover speed but I think it's somewhere around wing

his vertical hover should be slower

[gray glacier]

So they normally run at the same speed. That makes sense thinking back to the first cutscene where Dedede and Bandee chased after Kirby.

[ocean mauve]

I didn't but I also used sand so I mean
Does it really count

[vocal latch]

I love this game.

So so much

[granite cedar]

same

how did we get forgotten land and rtdl dx basically back to back

[vocal latch]

ikr

[granite cedar]

i just realized that title screen changes

[wintry turtle]

That's what I wanna know

[vocal latch]

YEAH

[granite cedar]

rainbow and balloons appear in the background

so awesome

[vocal latch]

Lol would've been funny if Lor & Landia popped up in the background

[granite cedar]

it would be like in 3ds games

where after you finish story, dedede and meta respectively show up in the background

[vocal latch]

yeah!

[wintry turtle]

I'd be damned if we got a sidegame this year still

[granite cedar]

my personal bet is on announcement of a major spin-off but nothing else this year

[vocal latch]

Ultra Clash

[granite cedar]

well

nothing else in game world that is

[solar harbor]

Does anyone have a pinned message for all the requirements for 100% completion?

[granite cedar]

i expect side-content

i dont but i can just tell you

[vocal latch]

||I do get a vibe that we'll get a new Clash for sure.||

[granite cedar]

you need to do collect all energy spheres and at least complete all challenge stages in both story and ex

do 100 missions in magoland

beat magolor epilogue

and beat both arenas

[wintry turtle]

New drum dash PLEASE

PLEASE HAL

[solar harbor]

Aw hell yeah

I was worried platinum is required for 100%

But thankfully it isn't

[granite cedar]

nope

you just need to finish them all at least once

oh yeah about epilogue actually

it wont be fully complete unless you do ||secret stage||

to unlock it ||you need to get gold on every level||

at least gold that is

[wintry turtle]

I would've been devastated if I didn't plat that stage first try

[vocal latch]

• Beat Story Mode, Merry Magoland, Extra Mode, Magolor Epilogue, The Arena and The True Arena
• Get all 120 Energy Spheres in both Story & Extra Mode
• Beat all Challenge Stages in both Story & Extra Mode
• Beat all Stages in Magolor Epilogue
• Do all 100 main Missions in Merry Magoland

[granite cedar]

imagine if fabled kirby rpg is in fact set in clash universe. again all i really want is for it to be a full paid game and main party not just consisting out of kirbies. otherwise ill be down

[vocal latch]

That'd be cool

What I want most for a new Clash is more character-interaction in the towns

[granite cedar]

this

[vocal latch]

Like I WANNA TALK TO EVERYBODY

[granite cedar]

YEAH

and like

[gray glacier]

I would show the admiration from the depths of my heart to every individual who has managed to clear all ||120|| Magoland missions, especially ||the last 20||.

[vocal latch]

THEY'RE ALL HERE BUT I CAN'T TALK TO THEM

[granite cedar]

give them appropriate medieval outfits too

and not literally just reuse their SA models

[wintry turtle]

I want magolor to bleed my wallet dry.

[granite cedar]

wait

let me cook

what if

kumazaki never shown dedede in those games because he plans to give him a bigger role in more complete clash game

after all if he's a king of dream kingdom it would be understandable to save him up for more important matters

[leaden terrace]

king dedede as the final boss 😳

[granite cedar]

nah

[late root]

imagine him hiring team kirby do some ordeal mission stuff

[austere willow]

eh

[granite cedar]

the ultimate hammer lord

😎

[vocal latch]

||My main idea is still that the first part of the story is a clearer version of Deluxe, with Taranza getting mad from the mirror and the balance of worlds crashing creating parallels, while the postgame story is about a parallel they never fought, Parallel Nightmare (who was hiding in dreams or some shit), who summons others (Pres. Parallel Susie, King D-Mind's Revenge and whatnot)
Secret boss would be Parallel Magolor, which is what happened to the Magolor in the True Arena of RTDX||

[leaden terrace]

So true

[wintry turtle]

King D Mind:

[leaden terrace]

||NGAHHHHHHHH PARLALEL MALGLORL PARALLEL MAGOLOR||

[austere willow]

imagine if Dededetour becomes canon somehow via different structure/bosses and then Smashing the Mirror becomes canon

and the "Shards"

create Parallels

[vocal latch]

heheheheh

[austere willow]

Boom

[leaden terrace]

OMG

[austere willow]

Ultra Kirby Clash

[granite cedar]

i feel like if ||they would do another clash games they would do something else honestly, mainly because skc is literally on the same system and it has very similar story as is. wouldn't be able to get away with it again||

[austere willow]

also

off topic

day 6 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfXleu3LsgY on loop

[late root]

imagine, it's just ||magolor soul from the true arena but way harder||

[granite cedar]

me when green winds remix

[leaden terrace]

YOU LISTEN TO IT TOO

I AGREE

[late root]

that song's a banger ngl

[austere willow]

I CANNOT GET Mage Who Relives Their Lonely Journey

off my head

I cannot.

its living in my brain rent free

[leaden terrace]

i listened to it while studying for finals last night and it was the most engaging ive felt studyin

[austere willow]

The track is so rich of that fucking emotion

[vocal latch]

||Tbh, I feel they'd just like combine all elements of both and just improve them the best way (hopefully lmao), and make it clearer.||

[austere willow]

its so lonely its so fucking ... anxious... unsure

and then its got BIG tones of triumph to sort of keep your hope up

[late root]

That fucking title looks like ZUN, the creator of the touhou project, made it

[granite cedar]

||perhaps... maybe add some gameplay outside of boss fights too||

and again ||allow for party members that aren't just kirbies||

[austere willow]

but the song keeps that anxious, uncertainty throughout

constantly

[leaden terrace]

you know the like singular 'off tune' note with that trumpet and flute

[granite cedar]

that's just average kumazaki music track title

[leaden terrace]

its my favorite part

[austere willow]

if thats not hitting my heart strings then IDK WHAT IS

[leaden terrace]

it just gets me every time

[late root]

yeah

:(

:)

[leaden terrace]

the entire song just GAH

[granite cedar]

i always loved ando's work on the series, don't get me wrong

but highkey

[austere willow]

the WAY they incoporate the segment of the Lor crashing down from the first cutscene and using it twice

[granite cedar]

his best work comes from FL and DX so far

[austere willow]

once in a soft way

[wintry turtle]

Epilogue OST is just complete baller

[junior fiber]

they all slap

[vocal latch]

||Would be cool if we could explore a bit of each area to interact with NPCs and level up with little enemies like Bronto Burts and whatnot lol||

[austere willow]

the 2nd time in EXTREME finality tone

its so AUGH

its hiting me

its hitting me hard 😭

[granite cedar]

WAIT

WAIT A FCUKING SECOND LET ME COOK

[vocal latch]

Hey, is there a limit to Stamp Rally btw?

[granite cedar]

they can repurpose epilogue's gameplay loop.

for this.

they can totally do that.

[austere willow]

you cap out at 99 and after that it repeats (youre stuck at 99)

[leaden terrace]

Onward to A Pain The Mage's Heart Knows Well ~ Road to Judgement

[granite cedar]

replace magic points with experience points.

boom.

[austere willow]

Yeah that works

[vocal latch]

thx

[austere willow]

I approve of your pitch Klu

[granite cedar]

since in clash kirby and others don't have copy abilities, they can unlock moves and skills this way

hire this man (me) hal

[late root]

Yeah

that sound way better lmao

Imagine, normal magolor bossfights would just be bullethell

[leaden terrace]

Judgement of Malus Pumila is also a very touhou name

[junior fiber]

malus pulima??

[granite cedar]

malus pulima.

i think its scientific name for an apple

[junior fiber]

wow

[granite cedar]

kumazaki i love you sm

like idk. his take on kirby is just. so insane.

it was a match made in heaven

[late root]

the cultivated kind to be exact lmao

google my beloved

[junior fiber]

funny to think about how the next kirby director is growing up with his crazy depiction right now

[leaden terrace]

||This would be tree Master Crown's theme: Judgment of Malus Pumila ~ Crown of Yggdrasil with No Ruler||

[austere willow]

Paradise Apple/Fuji Apple

[granite cedar]

thats the thing

[vocal latch]

Of course it's a PARADISE apple

[granite cedar]

THIS kirby is now definitive kirby

its kirby that sells millions of copies on the regular

[leaden terrace]

and thank god this is the definitive kirby

[granite cedar]

its kirby multiple generations of kids are growing up with

[junior fiber]

fr i love kirby‼️

[leaden terrace]

its just amazing were just going in the best possible kirby timeline lol

[granite cedar]

few franchises have as much of a bright future as kirby right now

it feels very gratifying to be a fan

[leaden terrace]

when antdude says "being a kirby fan is too easy" he really means it

[granite cedar]

i know some people were fans for longer but it still feels rewarding that i stuck around since 2015

[late root]

being a kirby fan is too easy

yet being a kirby loremaster is not lmao

[leaden terrace]

I've been a fan since maybe 2017-2018, it took me a while and a bit of growing up just to really get into it as the person i am now but today i feel like its the best time for me lol

[junior fiber]

i feel like joining at rtdl or TDX was the perfect time

[leaden terrace]

5 years of being a kirby fan and im also about to finish my finals soon...

[junior fiber]

what i did

[leaden terrace]

and maybe even graduate 😭

[late root]

time flies fast man...

[vocal latch]

Hey, if you know your sources, it's not as hard

[leaden terrace]

so true

[solar harbor]

Just like every other Magolor Epilogue track lol

[late root]

you have a good point

[leaden terrace]

some forgotten land's music has this too

Faded Dream of a Psychomeddler

[granite cedar]

the wastes where life began

[leaden terrace]

A Full-Speed Farewell from the New World

[granite cedar]

two planets approach the roche limit

[leaden terrace]

(i think it doesnt sound bad if u think of it as a touhou credits thme)

[long turtle]

The Road to Victory/GCN/Arena Theme made me so happy when hearing this game

I popped OFF

[leaden terrace]

WAIT

I JUST REALIZED

Supreme Lord's Coronation - OVERLORD
this is literally formatted like a touhou song.

except ~ is -

[austere willow]

same thing in japanese, really

[junior fiber]

le ~

[leaden terrace]

true but its always been ~ for touhou regardless of language so its kind of like, its trademark or something like that

[maiden crane]

cant wait for it to be in that "is it Kirby or touhou" quiz

[junior fiber]

i did so bad on that

[leaden terrace]

i got 98 right 😭

out of the 107

[solar harbor]

That one's my favorite

[solar harbor]

I'm glad too

I'm glad to have started with Triple Deluxe, and look where I am now

[dreamy jay]

I finished the game 100% but still 3musics are unavailable, do you know why ?

[solar harbor]

I started with a Kumazaki game, and still going with a Kumazaki game

[solar harbor]

Do you mean the songs used for Magolor's fight?

[dreamy jay]

Also when i fought the true arena there was a boss i haven’t seen before, galacta knight

[solar harbor]

Yeah Galacta Knight is True Arena exclusive

[leaden terrace]

i dont remember if triple deluxe or planet robobot was the one that intorduced me entirely to kirby, but rtdl is the one i was most familiar with

[solar harbor]

Both the Wii version and the remake has that

[dreamy jay]

52 166 and 189

Are the missing musics

[solar harbor]

Track 52 is unlocked upon entering the secret door at the beginning of Nutty Noon Stage 5

Track 166 is the same conditions but in Extra Mode

Track 189 is ||played in the HAL Room for Magolor Epilogue||

[dreamy jay]

I don’t get how to obtain the 189

What is this room you’re talking about

[storm gazelle]

you go to the top right and top left corners of the hub

then go to the bottom left

[dreamy jay]

Oh ok

[storm gazelle]

and theres a new area

you go to the top left first

[solar harbor]

Aight thanks, I'm looking for it now

[storm gazelle]

you also have to crouch to get to the area

its under a half floor

[storm gazelle]

i meant bottom right

sorry :(

[dreamy jay]

Thanks a lot

[solar harbor]

EITCH

IT STANDS FOR... H

[unreal stag]

do we even know what the gem apple is

like all we know is that magolor has to piece it back together to restore himself, and then ||the master crown takes control of it||

[fleet prism]

nope lmao

All we know is what you said

[unreal stag]

and also ||after defeating the master crown he takes the gem apple and turns it into currency for some reason||

||also they explode?||

at the very least ||it's powerful enough that the master crown is capable of manifesting itself through it alone||

[fleet prism]

||It's meant to reference the original sin I think||

||I don't know much about about how the story goes to elaborate on it||

[dreamy jay]

This game was really nice tbh

I’ve had a lot of fun for the last 4 days finishing it 100%

[vocal latch]

||It's a reference to Magolor's Gem Apple bombs in Kirby Star Allies & Kirby Fighters 2||

[unreal stag]

||the original sin is the serpent tempting eve to take and eat a fruit from the tree of knowledge of good and evil||

[unreal stag]

yeah that's why i pointed that out

[unreal stag]

||that god had forbade adam and eve from eating||

||after the two of them ate from its fruit they 'became ashamed of their nakedness' and god subsequently banishes them from the garden of eden for their disobedience||

and thus the fall of man

technically speaking ||'original sin' in christian doctrine not only refers to the incident that led to the fall of man, but also the state of that inherited guilt and sin from adam that all of humanity is born into||

[vapid kestrel]

I mean that always seemed like the case lol

[vapid kestrel]

It does not

[austere willow]

its strange because it does a warping effect on like

the dimensional rift getting-sucked-in animation

i guess tehy removed it for clarity (?)

[leaden terrace]

cries i knew i didnt remember it wrong

i watched meteorz's extra mode vid specifically to see it

and it wasnt there

[acoustic crescent]

maybe due to ||double black hole attack from true arena of magolor soul||?

i feel warping effect will not very well working something like that

[vapid kestrel]

What happened how is Dedede fast in this game

[acoustic crescent]

also hi faye

[austere willow]

hi faye

dream friends are still busted

[acoustic crescent]

clay too

[vapid kestrel]

In Japanese it's ~ bracketing OVERLORD
Like Crowned Overlord ~OVERLORD~
But for the record we have Everything Vanishes ~ Each to Their Respective Worlds, Far-Flung Survivors Return ~ Fly! Star Allies and Determined to Fly ~ No night lasts forever

[leaden terrace]

THANK YOU for this information

also what is the 1st one

[vapid kestrel]

Jp name of Each to his Own World from RtDL

[leaden terrace]

COOL

[vast vapor]

this isn’t star allies anymore

[vapid kestrel]

Getting a literal touhou title every console Kirby is fun

[novel fog]

||isn't the worse, but main thing with this is that Dream Kingdom/Clash world is in a 'parallel', not dimension (though we do not know specifics of parallels yet, but it is clear they are considered separate); also isn't clear Magoland appearing in Nutty Noon is because of Magolor time travelling or intentionally manipulating time or anything like that||

[vapid kestrel]

Wait no I forgot

We got two in Star Allies

ほしのきき ～ ほうかいの おひるねタイム
Star Crisis ~ Crumbled Naptime
遥かなる生還 ～ 飛べ！スターアライズ
Far-Flung Survivors Return ~ Fly! Star Allies

[leaden terrace]

1st one is literally a touhou title

[fleet prism]

Bro brings an entire theme park to past nutty noon and refuses to elaborate

[novel fog]

||idk if it was intentional lol, could be something to do with sky warping around there too (due to either Mast or Grand Doomer)||

[vapid kestrel]

OH IM DUMB I FORGOT THERE'S TWO IN RTDL TOO

[leaden terrace]

we have strawberry crisis

and crumbled naptime can also be alluded to sleeping terror

i think

idk

[fleet prism]

Makes me wonder if the Devs originally intended on having Magoland present in the background at all times before deciding to make it not visible, and the nutty noon thing is an leftover of that they did not bother fixing

[austere willow]

its literally on the tilte screen

[leaden terrace]

magoland in halcandra

[austere willow]

also, the waddle dee souvenir shop guys are in every single Level Select screen

[vapid kestrel]

異世界ハルカンドラ ～ 新たなてき
Another World: Halcandra ~ New Enemy
全てキエテ ～ それぞれの世界へ
Everything Vanishes ~ To Each Their Respective World

[fleet prism]

god damn it there's no way around it

[austere willow]

Magoland exists in the past soryr

[fleet prism]

time travel is real

[austere willow]

the Souvenir Shop Waddle Dees also like

"If you want more items, earn more stamps rally!"

[leaden terrace]

i hope they make the next galacta theme touhou tidle'd

because i know hes the one that deserves it

[austere willow]

i dont think the Lor subgames give you stamps, right

[novel fog]

yeah
who knows why though

[leaden terrace]

hes the one with the fucking knife rain, lasers

[austere willow]

ive played a few and they didnt give me squat

[leaden terrace]

master spark-ass attack

[novel fog]

just stars I think (and maybe a ticket? I don't remember)

[austere willow]

will check right now

[fleet prism]

In one hand I'm glad all evidence points out to that graph I made but in the other hand time travel is officially in the Kirby franchise, shit is gonna start becoming more and more confusing now that a damn egg can just warp to the past

[leaden terrace]

its ok

HAL can do it

just leave it to shinya kumazaki

[austere willow]

as long as they dont use it to affect the plot

and by that i mean Sonic Generations style

[leaden terrace]

true true true

[fleet prism]

I'm scared of the implications

[leaden terrace]

that wouldve been

the worst thing ever

[novel fog]

I mean, it's supposedly supposed to be in a different world and time or something like that
but who knows what that means

[fleet prism]

The gift shop waddle Dee definitely and undeniably time travelled through

[vocal latch]

||I feel like it might be from the Dimensional Hole the mast made tbh||

[leaden terrace]

i think rn i think theyre just limiting it to another dimension, magolor and likely susie

[austere willow]

ok so it DOES give stamps in the Lor lmao

[leaden terrace]

the whole time traveling thing

maybe that would be simple enough

[austere willow]

but theres still the masks themselves and souvenirs ONLY being given to you at Magoland

[novel fog]

yeah

[vapid kestrel]

Me when GK returns with 受難の十字架 ~ グランドクロス

[leaden terrace]

😭

and it slides into the right bottom corner of the screen like BGM: 受難の十字架 ~ グランドクロス

8 green stars appearing at the left top corner too

its over.

[faint galleon]

Wait I thought the ||planet robobot Galacta theme was supposed to play when meta knight was fighting him||

[vocal latch]

I really hope Kumazaki gets interviewed on Magoland's situation man

[vocal latch]

||For Kirby & Bandana Waddle Dee they play the tracks from the original
for Dedede & Meta Knight they play their battle theme from Fighters 2 & Robobot GK||

[vapid kestrel]

Aw hell nah GK pulling out the 淵符 「クロス・ザ・ワールド」

[leaden terrace]

LMFAOOOOOO

[late root]

WHAT THE-

LMFAOOOOOO

[leaden terrace]

speaking of

i wonder if well ever get a boss battle that just stops time for attacks.

nothing big just

this isnt the first time this has popped up in my mind

[maiden crane]

like, they stop time, set up an attack, and then you have to just dodge it immediately?

[wintry turtle]

Well we sure as hell got that as the player so far so we're getting there

[maiden crane]

i swear ive seen a game do that before

[spark iris]

I was kinda left disappointed with how magolor plays

In the epilogue

He cant use his sword

Like in star allies

[leaden terrace]

yeah basically what she did

the knives suddenly appearing after a red flash

[spark iris]

Quick question whats the max number of spikes magolor can summon im the epilogue

Compared to star allies

[fallen gust]

[spark iris]

In star allies he could summon like a row of 8

[fallen gust]

I really do want Merry Magoland Deluxe.

[solar harbor]

Hey everyone, I finished upgrading the RtDL portion of HAL Room's page in WiKirby. Hopefully it'll be easier for you all to find information about the HAL Rooms.

https://wikirby.com/wiki/HAL_Room

WARNING the screenshots contain spoilers, obviously

[leaden terrace]

👍 👍

[quartz skiff]

||kirby

||rampaging doomer||

[solar harbor]

Hey does anyone know the other special properties of the masks besides Kine & Mine?

[long turtle]

They don't have any from what i've heard

[solar harbor]

That's kinda a shame

||Because I was wondering if the Morpho Knight mask has lifesteal like with FL's Morpho Sword||

[fleet ocean]

kine and mine have special properties?

[vocal latch]

Yeah, they give you the same stronger water blow which you get from Water ability

[fleet ocean]

WHAT??

[thin forge]

who is mine

[fleet ocean]

kines girlfriend

or mom

[thin forge]

oh

[fleet ocean]

or Female relative

idfk

from kdl3

[solar harbor]

Mine is confirmed to be his wife

[fleet ocean]

WHAT

HES MARRIED??

[solar harbor]

Correct

https://wikirby.com/wiki/Mine

Check WiKirby

[thin forge]

kine has more rizz than 99% of the kirby universe

[fleet ocean]

😭

[slender compass]

Wait I wonder if Magolor talked with another version of himself or if he just passively knows their existence

[vocal latch]

I'm still extremely confused why only Kine & Mine's masks have an ability

Like genuinely, I'm so confused lol

[fleet ocean]

maybe its rhe same case with 1-1 ex

[thin forge]

also, are the super abilities just kinda a thing? or were they created by something like the master crown

[slender compass]

If he talked with a version that already fought Kirby and redeemed himself why didn't Future Magolor try to talk past Magolor out of evil

[vocal latch]

They come from the Super Enemies that come from Dimensional Holes.

[thin forge]

yeah but like

are THOSE

just kinda a thing from another dimension

[slender compass]

supposedly Another Dimension stuff

its never truly explained

[vocal latch]

Yeah.

[maiden crane]

magolor doesnt seem like the type to really do that honestly

i mean like, by all accounts ||the master crown thing was a set back, he didnt really lsoe anything major in terms of power||

[vocal latch]

My main wish for masks would've tbh been stuff like Metal General mask showing you damage points or smth man

[maiden crane]

||that and he did learn a valuable lesson from that whole thing, don't mess with kirby||

[vocal latch]

Like man I'm so confused why's it just Kine & Mine lmao

[slender compass]

beyond apparently Kirby being under threat of corruption if he holds onto the Super Abilities for too long

which justifies the timer they have in the game

[vocal latch]

Huh???

[celest grove]

?

[thin forge]

kirby is too much of a good boy to be corrupted

[slender compass]

I heard it here before but not sure if its just a head canon or explained somewhere

[celest grove]

I don't think it was ever explained

[vocal latch]

Definitely sounds like a headcanon to me.

[thin forge]

(unless that crack theory about galacta knight being kirby from an alternate timeline is true)

[vocal latch]

I think the timer's just a gameplay thing tbh, so you don't fool around too much

[thin forge]

yeah

or maybe kirby gets tired from exerting himself too much with them

[novel fog]

that's moreso just an (implied) novel thing
hasn't been mentioned ingame at all

[main fractal]

Turn into sword

[slender compass]

interesting

[fleet ocean]

man the more i listen to it the more tragic ||supreme lords coronation|| is

im p sure ||at one point it sounds like magolor is actually sobbing||

[main fractal]

Something I'm beginning to wonder now, was ||Isloated Isles Another Dimension remix specifically made for RTDX but used in fl first?||

[fleet ocean]

could be the case, ||rtdx did start development before katfl iirc||

[main fractal]

Wait hang on

||Scattered souls has an fl motif||

[north topaz]

Are platinum medals in ability challenges required for 100%

[main fractal]

No

[north topaz]

ok

[thin forge]

phew

[granite cedar]

Even gold isn't required

You just need to finish the level at least once

[main fractal]

Just beating it is required

[north topaz]

Ok

Thanks

[main fractal]

I think you need to beat every Magoland Missions though

[brave crag]

Platinum should have been required though.

[thin forge]

no

the children need to be at least able to get 60%

[main fractal]

So true Big Jack Horner

[thin forge]

the rest is blocked off by the sheer difficulty of getting all the missions done

that, and the true arena lmao

[brave crag]

Also Dedede's OP, I just finished The True Arena in half the time it took me with Kirby just by spamming Super Dedede Jump.

[thin forge]

wait

[brave crag]

Super Dedede Jump - Destroying bosses since 2018.

[thin forge]

can i use dedede the first time or do i have to beat it with kirby first like the regular arena

[rose dome]

hal really saw unfair magolor soul and said "write that down, write that down!"

[brave crag]

Have to do Kirby first.

[thin forge]

dammit

[granite cedar]

Dedede is so broken and it makes me happy

His dx incarnation is probably the best he ever was when he's playable

[main fractal]

It was a ritual for me to use Dedede in old rtdl

And now he's a fucking beast

[neat path]

So true

[vocal latch]

This picture man... (Epilogue)

[granite cedar]

Hm wait

Wait a fucking second

[fallen gust]

Ah nothing like making new friends to ||totally scam them.||

[granite cedar]

This has the same art style as the main game lmao

[fallen gust]

I wish green magolor was an alt skin for epilogue.

[granite cedar]

This shouldn't surprise me too much but

Kinda sus

[leaden terrace]

tbf arent all these just reused mod...

...hm

[granite cedar]

Still sus i think

[thin forge]

MICROTRANSAGOLOR

[main fractal]

||It's been 4 years since clash 2||

[leaden terrace]

4 years what

[vocal latch]

||Entire thing is sus, shows a lead-up to Team Kirby Clash Deluxe, a game that's gonna be unavailable this month lmfao (Yes I know Super exists, but this picture is specifically based on Deluxe||

[leaden terrace]

omg

how has it been THAT long

[main fractal]

||By September this year anyways||

[leaden terrace]

it feels just

IT JUST FEELS LIKE IT CAME OUT 2 YEARS AGO

[thin forge]

i mean

[main fractal]

||They should make a third clash game tbh|| 😳

[thin forge]

you can go to the castle village

[novel fog]

||also just noticed he got his white and green outfit right after entering the Clash world||

[vocal latch]

||Yeah, but this is specifically the Team Kirby Clash Deluxe version with Broom Hatter & Magolor making his Shoppe first there.||

[thin forge]

fair

[vocal latch]

||Reminds me of Mage Sisters' white clothing in HiAD||

[thin forge]

i wish that returned it was so pretty

[brave crag]

||Clearly this means that TKCD is canon but SKC is not.||

[lofty condor]

||Where the fuck is Sailor Dee||

[thin forge]

but thats a sequel

[lofty condor]

||Why do they keep erasing him||

[rose dome]

gone. reduced to atoms

[novel fog]

||well SKC would still be in a parallel (even if they weren't the same), and Magolor clearly was there||

[lofty condor]

https://tenor.com/view/zane-ninjago-lego-ninjago-death-fail-gif-22975365

[thin forge]

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-jack-horner-what-did-i-do-to-deserve-this-what-specifically-death-gif-27359468

[brave crag]

||Yeah, I was just joking, don't worry.||

[brave crag]

||No HD model.||

[lofty condor]

||Magolor Soul getting sucked into the vortex at the end of the True Arena||

[rose dome]

https://tenor.com/view/peachvitty-gif-24343442

[granite cedar]

You know what other thing is kinda sus

||mages masks have new voice clips||

[rustic ether]

||True tho, I was honestly expecting a new 16th variation of the fucking tree XD||

[granite cedar]

||and they are some of npcs that were in skc||

[novel fog]

||wait do they??||

[granite cedar]

Some of them are reused, but other are new

[rose dome]

||master crown:||

[granite cedar]

Same with haltmann actually

[tulip hamlet]

||Whispy Soul||

[granite cedar]

Susie and Sectonia are more obvious but it's not hard since Ohmoto is right there

[novel fog]

||Haltmann in Clash when lol||

[granite cedar]

||finally president susie lore||

[novel fog]

||(is he dead there too)||

[leaden terrace]

probably

||i mean we never see sectonia||

[novel fog]

||well we know Sectonia is dead there yeah||

||but how would Haltmann die? there's no cool machines there, right?||

||actually now that I think about it, have we ever seen the planet Dream Kingdom is on, is it just like Pop Star or...?||

[vocal latch]

||We don't know, I think?||

[granite cedar]

We don't

Dream Kingdom's world building is very scarce

[novel fog]

||can't wait for it to be a star like Pop Star but blue for no reason or some shit lmao||

[fleet ocean]

FINALLY. I FIANLLY GRINDED ENOUGHT TO GET ||TRICKERY 6 IN MAGOLOR EPILOGUE||

[maiden crane]

thats why we need a Kirby rpg set in that world lets go /j

[fleet ocean]

|| THE ONLY STAGE I WAS MISSING TO UNLOCK THE EXTRA STAGE 😭 ||

[granite cedar]

This but unironically

[astral shard]

So I managed a 1 ms time on Samurai Kirby 100

[granite cedar]

||popstar but it has asteroids around it that form a gear shape||

[astral shard]

I dunno how aside from head-counting the usual times the ! appears

[novel fog]

||actually, have we even seen Warp Stars there? interesting how much we don't know/haven't seen||

[astral shard]

||I don't believe Kirby ever uses a Warp Star in either clash game||

[vast vapor]

||That extra stage was such a cool reward||

[thin prairie]

Im gonna play kirby while putting myself through cruel and unusual torture

[lofty condor]

||Why is he Mr. Beast||

[astral shard]

||MR. EGG!!~||

[fleet ocean]

YOOO ||THE DISTANT TRAVLER SONG FROM KIRBYS DREAM COLLECTION||

[maiden crane]

||he'll get one in an rpg to explain quick travel||

[thin prairie]

really????
no reaction at all?????

[vast vapor]

I should’ve spoilered this. Shit

[thin forge]

well it isnt really

spoilery?

[vast vapor]

No but it does show him ||in the clash clothes||

[thin willow]

It's faster yea

[warm totem]

Wait hang on

If the dream kingdom is an alternate dimension

Does that mean that there are two Kirby’s?

One in the main dimension and four others in the dream kingdom dimension?

I mean the idea of a Kirby multiverse isn’t out of the question

[fleet ocean]

i just 100% krtdl dx and. wow that was such an amazing game

i loved every bit of this game

[warm totem]

Same

[smoky adder]

||mistilteinn means mistletoe||

[vocal latch]

||Hey, so something I'm thinking about, Gem Apples restore your vigor, and the Fruit Fragments helped Magolor restore his powers (image is what the JP word used for Vigor in Clash means)||

[fleet ocean]

OOH

oops caps

[granite cedar]

OH.

[novel fog]

||it's a parallel yeah, most of the characters seem to have equivalents there||

[smoky adder]

||just magolor things||

[novel fog]

||is vigor explicitly mentioned in RTDL DX at all? still neat though||

[vocal latch]

||Not afaik, Fruit Fragments are described on having「大いなる力」"great power" is all I know||

[granite cedar]

Still this feels like more than just a coincidence lol

[novel fog]

||still find it funny they used a phrase associated with what Daroach was looking for lol, should have told him it was down here the whole time||

[granite cedar]

Someone pointed out

[granite cedar]

||Master Crown Tree's eye looks very similar to Dark Nebula||

Maybe similar wording was intentional

[novel fog]

||I mean it's more orange but yeah||

||though it is similar to Void Termina's and Morpho (EX)'s sword's too isn't it? just little less detailed?||

[faint glen]

||omg the fucking tree||

||never recalled it literally looked like that||

[austere willow]

So this apple is just really good energy source?

[magic gate]

||And isn't there a version of the gem apple tree where the apples are green?||

[ruby narwhal]

Hal is just trying to encourage healthy eating habits

[leaden terrace]

||when theyre unripe? yeah||

||they alwyas appear that way until theyre ready to harvest||

[novel fog]

||maybe? Master Crown was able to turn with tree with it, so I'd assume it'd had a bit of power (even after Magolor got stuff from them)||

||though I do wonder if the apples were always down here or if they were made from Magolor's 'scattered power' or something||

[fleet ocean]

whats yalls fav boss from this game

[granite cedar]

||magolor soul 2||

basic answer. but like

[leaden terrace]

||yeah i think its clearly magolor soul 2||

[granite cedar]

too good

[leaden terrace]

presentation, on point. battle, really good. music, hell yeah.

[granite cedar]

fucking

STORYTELLING THROUGH GAMEPLAY

hal's been getting so good at that

[thin forge]

also, cutscenes without dialogue

(the entire rtdl intro)

[leaden terrace]

||all it literally took was, close eyes! make apple appear! make him go into portal!|| wow!
THAT IS LITERALLY MY FAVORITE FUCKING THING EVER

[fleet ocean]

mine is tied between ||master crown|| and ||magolor soul 2|| yeah

[granite cedar]

kumazaki realizing that gameplay can also tell story in more ways than one been the best thing

[faint galleon]

||Magolor Soul 2 is so FUCKING GOOD ON GOD.||

[vocal latch]

lmfao

[granite cedar]

i think in hindsight my main issue with 3ds games, to an extent star allies, is that it feels like story/lore been at odds with the gameplay. like they were two separate things that rarely came together

but now?

peak fiction.

PEAK FICTION.

[fleet ocean]

i like ||master crown|| for ||how it ties into team kirby clash and the bible symbolism||, but i also like ||soul 2|| for ||..well, basically the entire fight. the phase 2 music feels very tragic||

i like both for how surreal they are to me

[leaden terrace]

it is literally tragedy. omg

[ruby narwhal]

O . O

[astral shard]

I need to finish Extra Mode

[leaden terrace]

||like everything that could go wrong? goes ABSOLUTELY wrong||

||MAGOLOR FUCKING DIES||

[faint galleon]

||Reading the fucking 2nd phase description while the 2nd phase music with Magolor's voice bits in the background GHHRRRAHRHNNNNGGH||

[astral shard]

I 100%'ed up to World 2 and it and True Arena are my last goals for 100%

[granite cedar]

wait

oh my god

i just realized

[faint galleon]

||"I may get to toy with you again!" NO YOU'RE NOT, YOUR ASS GOING TO YOMI||

[granite cedar]

is

is ||magolor soul 2|| a reference to how ||rtdl originally was supposed to have a "bad ending" if you didn't collect all energy spheres||

[fleet ocean]

WAIT WHAT

[leaden terrace]

OMG

[fleet ocean]

THAT WAS GONNA BE A THING??

[leaden terrace]

IMMA LOSE MT GFFUCKING MINDDDD

[granite cedar]

yes

[faint galleon]

||Someone brought that up||

[fleet ocean]

OH MY GOD..

[faint galleon]

||And I believe it 100%||

[leaden terrace]

SO...

SO...

gulp

[granite cedar]

okay can we make a deal

[astral shard]

I'd believe if that was a thing.

[granite cedar]

can we make all non canon arena fights like these to be ||worst case scenario fights||

from this point on

[leaden terrace]

YES

YES

PLEASE

[astral shard]

Technically they are

[austere willow]

i think its ironic in a karmic way that 100% gives Kirby a crown save file

like

[faint galleon]

Asides from Chaos elfilis and Void they already are

[austere willow]

Kirby really do be wearing that crown

[vocal latch]

||Very likely, yeah.||

[austere willow]

anyway. i got 100%

[leaden terrace]

i mean yeah they already kinda are

[granite cedar]

KINDA but also i dont think its as pronounced

they should hammer it home more

[astral shard]

Marx Soul is
Soul of Sectonia is
Star Dream Soul OS kind of is

[vocal latch]

||Only one before this fight that really was like that was Star Dream Soul OS now that I think of it ||

[fleet ocean]

yes..

[vocal latch]

||Both also have the similarity of the character who tried to control the thing getting their ego, their soul sucked away.||

[leaden terrace]

||Marx Soul: Nova is gone, Marx dies right in front of Kirby holy shit
Magolor Soul: Crown isn't shattered, Kirby fails and Magolor is dead
Soul of Sectonia: ?
Star Dream Soul OS: Haltmann is completely erased
Void: Void dies in what's probably the worst case for this poor little guy (too much energy of everything at once. hesj ust gonna explode byeeee)||

[astral shard]

||Chaos Elfilis was essentially Soul Forgo reviving itself with enhanced power after escaping the defeated Morpho Knight||

[leaden terrace]

||does anything actually change with soul of sectonia dying?||

[vocal latch]

||I'd really disagree with Void's death being a bad end tbh||

[burnt marsh]

wouldnt void actually be the best case scenario

yeah

[faint galleon]

||Whoever decided to make Supreme Coronation ~ OVERLORD the boss music for magolor soul 2 needs to get a fucking raise||

[leaden terrace]

yeah i dont think its a bad end

||but it must be pretyt painful for void anyways||

[burnt marsh]

cause thats the one thats implied to be reincarnated with a good heart

[vocal latch]

||Also I thought Marx only absorbed the part of Galactic Nova that it had missing during Meta Knightmare Ultra||