[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

[rustic trellis]

Magolor soul has been changed yes

Cant say anything else

[thin prairie]

Sweet

Can’t wait to see

[lilac osprey]

||As kirby or magolor?||

[thin prairie]

We love tornado

[fathom cradle]

||can't play as magolor||

Sadly

[rustic trellis]

Magolor Epilogue ||THE SUPER ABILITY SEQUENCE ALSO USES THE WORLD TO WIN MOTIF THIS IS A TDX W||

[fathom cradle]

It's goood

[novel fog]

||it's probably actually supposed to be from Welcome Your New Overlord but yeah||

[rustic trellis]

||No thats definetly Soul of Sectonia||

||I think in loop 2 its repeated the same amount of times as Soul of Sectonia||

[novel fog]

||it definitely sounds similar, but being from beginning of Welcome Your New Overlord makes bit of sense too||

[leaden terrace]

yeah i think both makes sense

[novel fog]

yeah

though could always just have been coincidence lol

[rustic trellis]

The way its used makes me really believe its ||Soul of Sectonia||

[leaden terrace]

i think this just seems like a generic motif

[maiden crane]

||Welcome Your New Overlord is the official name of "Under My Control" right||

[novel fog]

yeah

[leaden terrace]

yeah

[lilac osprey]

||do the clash games canonically take place after rtdl then due to the mag epilogue ending||

[thin prairie]

Fuck that name

Under my control goes hard

[austere willow]

its not world to win motif

its over the hill motif

[leaden terrace]

i agree but ill have to suck it up\

[thin prairie]

So does C-R-O-W-N-E-D

[austere willow]

which are VERY similar tbf

[thin prairie]

Crazy name

[leaden terrace]

crowned is the same fortunately

[maiden crane]

pretty sure Crowned is the same

[rustic trellis]

||We dont know if the portal warps him through time and space or just space so :/||

[austere willow]

but Over the Hill is the theme used for Aerogree

[novel fog]

is there any other song with it outside ones mentioned and Epilogue?

[rustic trellis]

||Kirby timeline about to look more complicated than zelda||

[maiden crane]

||"welcome your new overlord" sounds like something magolor would actually say||

[rustic trellis]

Because he does

[leaden terrace]

no im just guessing they prob just used it for a typical buildup intro

[novel fog]

I mean, it wasn't ever really official

[lilac osprey]

Ah, ||it might be all timey-wimey then||

[fathom cradle]

Yea he says it in the let me explain everything cutscene lmao

[thin prairie]

Because that is something he says

[fathom cradle]

So good intuition

[austere willow]

thats based on hte jp name and the jp name could actually maen Under My Management so like

[novel fog]

||in general? no, Clash takes place in a 'parallel'; for Magolor though yeah||

[fathom cradle]

Insert megamind clip here

[novel fog]

I thought it was more like him offering control or something like that

[rustic trellis]

also wait ME spoilers ||Thanks to the epilogue, main story final battle isnt canon in favor of EX mode final battle||

||since Magolor Soul is in the intro||

[leaden terrace]

technically both

[austere willow]

it doesnt really make a difference

[leaden terrace]

yeah

[rustic trellis]

I know i just think its funny

[leaden terrace]

it rly doesnt change much lol

[austere willow]

the reason people always go "extra mode isnt canon" is because the character u play as is different

and yet teh circumstances stay the same

[rustic trellis]

I just like how the turn tables

[red patrol]

Question

[austere willow]

yes Kirby can eat grapes

[rustic trellis]

and now ||main story is in danger of not being canon||

[leaden terrace]

he would never eat grapes.

[red patrol]

If ||Super Kirby Clash is canon now thanks to Magolor||

[leaden terrace]

he simply wouldn't.

[rustic trellis]

Yes/Eh

[fathom cradle]

something i always liked about extra mode is that they actually show landia and magolor changing into their ex forms

[rustic trellis]

||Clash happens, but its a parallel universe||

[red patrol]

||Does that indirectly make Galacta Knight canon?||

[leaden terrace]

kinda

who knows

[rustic trellis]

||Technically canon but not story relevant to anyone besides magolor||

||Aeon Hero being canon before GK moment||

[novel fog]

||yeah, and the only one they really said was like an 'if' story and stuff was Meta Knightmare Returns and now even that seems like it is canon in a way (though in a 'parallel' and not main world)||

[lilac osprey]

||has magolor directly interacted with or seen the most lore at this point||

[leaden terrace]

prob

[red patrol]

|| yknow what ill take it this is probably the closest we’re getting to him being canon for a long time||

[leaden terrace]

hes a huge nerd so

its possible

[austere willow]

headcanon is rn ||GK is from TKCDX/SKC world|| and thats why he's always ||from another dimension||

[rustic trellis]

I feel like ||GK not being canon|| is a running joke now

We make everything else canon first

[lilac osprey]

other question, ||how does magolor get to star allies||

[red patrol]

Tome Trackers is literally Magolor just flexing his lore collection on us

[rustic trellis]

Atm we dont know

[leaden terrace]

seems like the plan lol

[rustic trellis]

No clue

[leaden terrace]

i wanna see where we go from here

[novel fog]

||I mean, I think it's interesting the 'dimensions and parallels' thing was specifically in HR-D3's description while Galacta just has 'dimensions and time', though maybe it doesn't mean much||

[rustic trellis]

||Unless a clash sequel explains how magolor returns, he shall remain dormant in that universe ig||

[thin prairie]

Bro

I’ve beaten most bosses on true arena

And theres still 12 left

How tf

[leaden terrace]

lolllll

gl

[rustic trellis]

Get ready

[lilac osprey]

good luck!

[red patrol]

||I can’t believe the kirby multiverse is a thing now ||

[lilac osprey]

Have fun!

[thin prairie]

what

What are you not telling me

[red patrol]

:)

[rustic trellis]

||Kirby Cinematic Universe time?||

[lilac osprey]

just go to the next boss

[thin prairie]

Ok

Landia is next

[lilac osprey]

go on, you got this!

[thin prairie]

Then ig we’ll see

[leaden terrace]

yeah

good luck dude

tough it out!!!!!!!

[thin prairie]

Alright

Time to see

WHATTTTT

HYDRIATH??????

[red patrol]

uh oh

[acoustic crescent]

someone upload all 4 hal rooms video (main/EX + mago epilogue)
https://youtu.be/7TOc6Ue8DVU

[red patrol]

Yeah

[thin prairie]

Oh no

Does this mean

What I think it means?

Don’t tell me

[lilac osprey]

:)

[thin prairie]

||do I have to fight big tree??||

[rustic trellis]

si

[thin prairie]

Oh no

[late root]

I find it cool that ||the old super ability transformation animations from the original play when you fight magolor||

[lilac osprey]

wait this is base arena 2 left on magolor is the last one magolor phase 2 or someone else

[leaden terrace]

keep on going

[rustic trellis]

||Whispys|| the least of your concerns tho

[leaden terrace]

brave through the

um

incinerating flames of

the true arena

[rustic trellis]

Lets just say, after the tree has been chopped

[lilac osprey]

HEY DID MAGOLOR JUST IGNORE MY STONE

[leaden terrace]

sh

shhh

[rustic trellis]

||be prepared to welcome your new overlord||

[late root]

||Like, did anyone catch that detail in that fight!?||

[leaden terrace]

I SAID SHHHH /s

ME

[rustic trellis]

I mean theres no spoilers

[leaden terrace]

I SPECIFICALLY WANTED IT TO HAPPEN

[rustic trellis]

||Magolor Soul|| obviously is in true arena

[leaden terrace]

reposting for clarity

[late root]

Lmao

[novel fog]

||https://fxtwitter.com/imagesyeahokay/status/1629717653358100481|| lmao

[leaden terrace]

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[rustic trellis]

LMAO

[late root]

Bruh lmao

[thin prairie]

I hate rampaging doomers

So annoying

[lilac osprey]

hey he made it??

[rustic trellis]

||Master Crown|| really forgot that there was no lives counter and cried

[lilac osprey]

okay do I take leaf or sword for magolor phase 2 because phase 1 decided no more stone

[shrewd turtle]

What is this mask referencing it looks so familiar

[novel fog]

DMK's Dark Mirror move from Star Allies

[late root]

Cheese the fight with leaf

[shrewd turtle]

ohhh

[red patrol]

Btw

[lilac osprey]

on it

[red patrol]

Question

[late root]

Invincible guard very good

[red patrol]

||what was the deal with the background in the Master Crown fight?||

||what was that place being destroyed?||

[leaden terrace]

egg engines

[novel fog]

||seems to be past Halcandra (in particular it looks similar to Egg Engines)||

[red patrol]

So ||we theoretically could have been watching the moment the ancients died out?||

[rustic trellis]

Yep

[red patrol]

Christ

[novel fog]

||well lot of them, obviously don't think all of them were there||

[red patrol]

Btw, ||are the ancients the fellas from the New World? Old news yeah, but Ive never been sure if thats confirmed||

[novel fog]

||I mean there was definitely some there, and their language has similar words to the Jambastion language||

||but again, probably not all of them||

||just a major group of them||

[red patrol]

||Yeah, i could see the tech ancients being the new world ones, while the magic ones are just the ones like hyness||

[modest solstice]

||I think magolor epilogue was showing his memories of halcandra being destroyed by the master crown, I’m assuming the master crown was a similar deal to elfilis (they look very similar in the fight) I’m guessing magolor wanted to get the master crown for himself as revenge for it destroying his home. The parts of halcandra we do see in main story mode are like the remnants of it after master crown destroyed it all||

[red patrol]

||and of course whatever the heck is the deal with galacta and the other heroes||

[novel fog]

||well, Magolor isn't from Halcandra||

[modest solstice]

Ohh okay

[thin prairie]

Wait

[modest solstice]

I thought he was

Ah well

[thin prairie]

Why am I fighting magalor ex rn?

There’s still 3 left after him

[leaden terrace]

just fight

[thin prairie]

Ok

[leaden terrace]

shhh

[red patrol]

You’ll get there dont worry

[novel fog]

nah, it's revealed in new 120 Spheres Dialogue for Extra Mode he lied about it

[modest solstice]

Ohhhhhh

Huh

Makes sense lmao

[novel fog]

https://vxtwitter.com/KingProclaimed/status/1629423293165076483

[leaden terrace]

i like how guilty he felt about it, like just admitting that he lied lol

[wise roost]

Does HRD3 have new text or is it the same about floating in from another dimension

[novel fog]

based on old, but it is new

[red patrol]

In that case, ||does that mean we have yet to meet an actual Halcandran, or have they all died out from that thing we saw in the master crown fight?||

[modest solstice]

Lol that’s great

[thin prairie]

Oh yea

I forgot about galacta knight

But still

There’s 2 more after him

Magalor soul

And whatever is next

[novel fog]

||the most major thing from it is that it crossed through 'dimensions and parallels'||

[leaden terrace]

likely former

its not like everyone lives on the same planet

[modest solstice]

||I still feel like it’s where he is from because the designs around the ruins are the same as magolor clothing, so I guess it’s just not halcandra then||

[leaden terrace]

or dimension rather

[novel fog]

||depends, are the enemies there considered Halcandran?||

[red patrol]

||maybe he’s just the Kirby world equivalent of a weeb||

[modest solstice]

Ahaha

[red patrol]

True true

[thin prairie]

WHAT

[unreal stag]

i guess this means ||magolor does not look like squidward||

[leaden terrace]

remember to spoiler ur messages

[thin prairie]

I can’t

Hold on

[red patrol]

Rip

[leaden terrace]

lol

gl

[thin prairie]

Im never going to financially recover from this

[red patrol]

The magolor hyness connection dream is dead

[thin prairie]

Thankfully

I have tornado on my side

[red patrol]

Though ig it makes sense

[austere willow]

idk if its dead

theres probably a reason as to why Magolor who is actaully just

[leaden terrace]

its still possible

[austere willow]

Brown

To wear a cloak like that

[novel fog]

||yeah, they don't have same body-type, though perhaps he made the outfit to look like one?||

[leaden terrace]

its not like theres any contradictions

[red patrol]

I wonder if magolor specifically chose his hood because it made his ears look like actual Ancient race, like hyness

[novel fog]

yeah probably

[modest solstice]

||I think it’s sweet how in the epilogue magolor became stronger than the thing he wanted for power||

[thin prairie]

There goes master crown

Holy shit

[red patrol]

Character development, you love to see it

[unreal stag]

y'know

i wonder about the ||old friend mask||

[modest solstice]

Trueeee!

[thin prairie]

Woah

[unreal stag]

||that it's just named 'old friend'||

[red patrol]

?

[thin prairie]

Why does magalor soul look so menacing

[red patrol]

What mask

[novel fog]

the spider Sectonia one

[thin prairie]

Here we go

[modest solstice]

I personally feel like this game is almost a perfect remake, I wasn’t expecting so much extra content

[red patrol]

Ohhhh

[modest solstice]

I’m really happy with it

[red patrol]

Haven’t gotten that one yet

That’s really bittersweet ngl

[unreal stag]

the sectonia mask is named sectonia right

yet that one's just named 'old friend'

[leaden terrace]

yeah

[modest solstice]

That’s so sad…

😭

[thin prairie]

Ok

So

[unreal stag]

i wonder if that suggests she had another name

[thin prairie]

I thought I beat magalor soul

[red patrol]

Ig the only ones who’d really know who that actually is would be taranza and the sky people

[thin prairie]

So I paused

||AND HE HAS A SECOND PHASE!?!?!?!?!?!?||

[red patrol]

Suprise :)

[novel fog]

mentioned it earlier, the Japanese name is ありし日の友 (Friend of Past Days)
the two definitions of ありし日 are 'days gone by; before; long ago' and 'when the dead person was alive'

[wintry turtle]

:)

[red patrol]

Ough

[leaden terrace]

||taranza holding and staring deeply into the mask in his hands after magolor gleefully rewarded it to him||

[warm drift]

Does Rock still have that attack where it spins and turns big then smashes hard

[thin prairie]

The hell?

[red patrol]

Ye

[thin prairie]

Why did it give me an apple?

[warm drift]

awesome

it was the attack i used to beat arena

[red patrol]

||its magolors final attempt to help||

||after that, the crown has truly consumed him, thats why its only the crown’s eye now||

||also if you listen to the music carefully, you can actually hear him pleading for help||

[leaden terrace]

... thinking about it

[leaden terrace]

that mustve been one of the things he did as assist magolor

[red patrol]

It was

[leaden terrace]

so if the player used assist magolor and saw everything up to that point... ow

[red patrol]

Honestly

[thin prairie]

Holy shit

[red patrol]

I know a kid has no way of getting to that fight

[thin prairie]

That was so anxiety inducing

But I did it

And I’m ngl

[red patrol]

But its so sad to think about some kid playing through the game not knowing abt the twist

[leaden terrace]

im sure older people suck too hard they need assist

[thin prairie]

Theory

[leaden terrace]

...

[austere willow]

he throws food when youre low at health yeah

[leaden terrace]

......

[red patrol]

Comgrats!

[thin prairie]

Listen to this theory

[leaden terrace]

congrats!!!

[rustic trellis]

Souvenirs: "allow us to introduce ourselves"

[thin prairie]

||so you know how I’m the second phase, his eyes disappear?||

[red patrol]

Yeah?

[novel fog]

I mean, Souveneir items and some good abilities probably would help

[thin prairie]

||my idea is that the master crown has fully taken over magalor, because it took away the only thing noticeable as magalor, and now it’s just the dark matter eye||

[red patrol]

True, i just think true arena Magolor soul would be quite the challenge

[thin prairie]

||that noticeable thing bein his eyes||

[broken rune]

||how did magolor get the lor back. that feels like something that shouldve been addressed considering landia took it back||

[red patrol]

Ye, thats what its impling

[novel fog]

||yeah though Sand at least can cheese everything besides the Black Holes||

[leaden terrace]

the fact that we spent lika whole day without true arena footage

[thin prairie]

“Player one can now enter the true arena as other characters now!!”

Fuck that

[red patrol]

||no wonder they gave true arena magolor soul a sand super ability, its so busted||

[broken rune]

beat the arena as all characters to unlock 204%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[leaden terrace]

WTF!!]=

[novel fog]

||probably decided to come back to him for some reason, or he got back to main world with Dimension Hole (by finding one somehow) and took it back||

[thin prairie]

[fathom cradle]

just did ||another true arena run||, this time with dedede

honestly despite the length i still don't think ||this true arena is actually that bad||

[thin prairie]

Kudos to you

[fathom cradle]

but it's very fun

[thin prairie]

You’ll never catch me playing that again

[novel fog]

oh btw did anyone check what ||Macho of Dedede|| is named in English yet

[fathom cradle]

it's the same

[unreal stag]

i was more pointing out that they didn't actually give her a name, so i was wondering if that meant she had a different name before becoming sectonia

[novel fog]

oh okay, makes sense

[red patrol]

||i wonder if the joronia thing is actually canon||

[leaden terrace]

the joronia allegiations are still in the air.

[novel fog]

maybe
probably just didn't want to address stuff too directly

and keep it vague

[burnt slate]

yea, rtdl's ex bosses aren't too threatening & the epilogue versions are based off of main story so they're already handicapped in a way lol

[thin prairie]

I was in the dress up masks

[burnt slate]

still looks like a fun TA tho

[leaden terrace]

i think well only find out when tdx gets its remake

[novel fog]

is ||History of Kirby Fighters|| same too

[fathom cradle]

yep

[leaden terrace]

id be so horrified if joronia is real

[thin prairie]

||And interdimensional magalor sounds so cute||

[leaden terrace]

i cant imagine the reactions

[red patrol]

Why?

[fathom cradle]

lol yea most of the epilogue guys aren't too bad

[leaden terrace]

theresa whole debacle whether joronia is legit or not

[fathom cradle]

even ||master crown|| is like. pretty straightforward?

it's mostly just really, REALLY flashy

[leaden terrace]

if its just a silly cpu name thing or an actual lore drop

[red patrol]

Really struggled with some of the endgame epilogue bosses

[leaden terrace]

yknow thinking about it...

[fathom cradle]

at least for me, the guys i get hit on the most are ||rampaging doomers and crowned doomer||

[leaden terrace]

taranza is named after tarantula

[red patrol]

Just kept fudging buttons

[thin prairie]

NO WAY

[leaden terrace]

so joronia would be after the jorogumo

[thin prairie]

Frfr

[burnt slate]

||yeah, the doomers seem to be the main run enders (not counting galacta but everyone's used to his moveset by now even with the tweaks )||

[austere willow]

SMEX is still hardest boss rush imo and if u say dream friends well cest la vie ig

[leaden terrace]

wouldnt that... make more sense if thats the truth then?

theres no way sectonia was always an insect. spiders arent insects

[fathom cradle]

yeah i agree on that

[red patrol]

Honestly I don’t really get the issue with the joronia thing

[fathom cradle]

||the epilogue doomers have really good stage control with the constant weird little explosion things they send out ||

[quartz wave]

i really had no idea how i'd beat this true arena until i tried tornado and realized i didn't have to put in effort

[red patrol]

Its a cute name, and adds more depth and tragedy to Sectonia as a character

[fathom cradle]

i could see those being super annoying with certain abilities

[leaden terrace]

i think its the fact that it was coupled with the funny cpu names like dedede soul and other stuff in dream buffet

so ppl cant decide if its real or just a joke

[quartz wave]

||that gimmick and the whole flow of the boss fight reminded me of hollow knight||

[red patrol]

Thats fair

[unreal stag]

i mean hey

if toby fox can do it

[leaden terrace]

personally i think its possible cus it fits taranzas naming scheme

[unreal stag]

why not kumazaki

[leaden terrace]

but well see

[red patrol]

Can’t wait for Dedede Soul to become real

[unreal stag]

drop some lore in the middle of silly stuff

[red patrol]

Kumazaki is unhinged and I love that for him

[unreal stag]

magolor sweepstakes

[novel fog]

Dream Land 1 Deluxe when lol

[leaden terrace]

oh god!!!

[unreal stag]

we already had that

it's called super star

[leaden terrace]

extra mode deluxe 😭

[unreal stag]

and that got a deluxe

[novel fog]

I mean that's more like a retelling

[unreal stag]

so now it's double deluxed

[novel fog]

it does not really have the deluxe vibe lol

[austere willow]

isnt Dedede "Soul" literally Masked Dedede

[leaden terrace]

huh

[red patrol]

True

[leaden terrace]

i..

i guess...

[unreal stag]

hoshi no kirby super deluxe is it's name after all

[novel fog]

that's more like an EX form to me, but could be seen that way I guess

[fathom cradle]

dedede "soul" with bound pound (it's super dedede jump but in 3d now)

[leaden terrace]

LOL

[unreal stag]

and then it became ultra super deluxe

[novel fog]

yeah, but that's the whole package, not really just one subgame

[leaden terrace]

superstar ultra is the best name a kirby game could ever get

besides planet robobot

just saying

[unreal stag]

hoshi no kirby double triple bossy deluxe on a raft, 4x4 animal style, extra shingles with a shimmy and a squeeze, light axle grease, make it cry, burn it, let it swim when

[leaden terrace]

we serve games here, sir

[thin prairie]

Ima say something rq

People who play true arena for the second time

Props to you

You would NEVER catch me playing true arena again

With or without tornado

[quartz wave]

man i just realized they nerfed galactic counter

now the move that made meta knight's playstyle so fun in star allies is completely infeasible for arena runs

[unreal stag]

i would just want you to know that response broke me

[leaden terrace]

youre welcome

[tired moth]

what species is magolor

[leaden terrace]

egg

||dont forget to spoiler||

i mean the image

it has the name

[marble jungle]

May have encountered a bug so I'll just describe ||Master Crown||, it's a ||POW!! across the ground from the laser burn that's the same as Galacta Knight's laser burn, but it sounds cleaned up, heavily bassy and actually mutes the soundtrack for a tiny bit, emulating a deafening sensation without actually causing hearing damage||

[marble jungle]

That sound design is ingenius

[leaden terrace]

i love sound design like that

[craggy sable]

Shit I'm making too much progress today

I'll do the... final(?) parts of this Epilogue tomorrow

[smoky pumice]

I have a question regarding the stamps you get throughout the game: If you replay a level, will the stamps still remain in the same spot (i.e be able to “farm” them) or do they act like keychains/stickers from TD/PR

[wintry turtle]

I think they stay in the same spot

[novel fog]

yeah
pretty sure they act like that in TDX and PRB too

[fathom cradle]

oh so

[smoky pumice]

Yeah the regular keychains/stickers do. I don’t know why I thought of the stamps as the ultra rare keychains/stickers lol. Thank you both

[fathom cradle]

i'm ||playing as bandee in true arena||

||his gk fight actually keeps the landia/gk music||

[novel fog]

oh huh??

why

[fathom cradle]

so ig it's only ||dedede and mk with the unique music||

[austere willow]

makes sense

Bandee is a RtDL character

[novel fog]

yeah but like

it is very weird he gets nothing

[austere willow]

what would he get then

[novel fog]

||especially since he was a playable character in KF2||

[fathom cradle]

i feel like ||him not getting the kf2 music makes sense since that's VERY dedede and mk specific, but yeah it's interesting he doesn't get his own music to match lol||

[novel fog]

||so KF2 Cresent Masked DDD and MK wouldn't have been unfitting for him||

||and it's not like Dedede was really in PRB yet he still has the Robobot Galacta so???||

[austere willow]

i think him being an RtDL character won out

[burnt slate]

||apple scramble plays instead of galacta's theme||

[austere willow]

finally

[wintry turtle]

No way

That's awesome

[novel fog]

it is just a weird decision overall lol

[smoky pumice]

Does Bandana Waddle Dee even have a unique theme that they could’ve implemented?

[novel fog]

I mean, there's definitely ones they could have chose

[fathom cradle]

||https://vxtwitter.com/KingProclaimed/status/1629752305007607811
https://vxtwitter.com/KingProclaimed/status/1629752452227407872 ||

idk why i didn't just get both themes in one video but oopsie

[novel fog]

||but again, even KF2 final boss theme would have been fitting considering context and all||

[wintry turtle]

I'm never gonna make it to him with Bandee so imma just watch it 💀

[burnt slate]

idk, spear's multi-thrust is pretty decent in rtdl

mostly bc multi-hits were strong in that game

[fathom cradle]

anyways wish me luck for the last two rounds

[burnt slate]

plus spear toss is pretty safe

[smoky pumice]

||krtld dlc gives us beetle||

[burnt slate]

thinkin about it, I wonder ||if the reason why mag soul's black hole no longer distorts the background is bc of the TA version where there's two||

||it would be a harder to read where your character is when the effect is going on and such||

[novel fog]

||I mean, think it would still work for normal one||

[fathom cradle]

||https://twitter.com/KingProclaimed/status/1629755294937907202 ||

SelfProclaimedKing (@KingProclaimed)

this one is for gigi #Kirby #KirbysReturntoDreamLandDeluxe #NintendoSwitch

Twitter · Feb 26, 2023, 8:08 AM

||i guess this means i am obligated to do true arena with mk at some point||

||not tonight though||

[burnt slate]

get ready for those shuttle loop spams if it's as powerful and broken as it was in rtdl

fully invincible for a couple of seconds and you can jump out of it & still keep some i-frames to do another loop

[fathom cradle]

lol i haven't played around with mk yet so it'll be interesting to see how he controls

what's up with counter in this game

[leaden terrace]

sad but i think its totally fair

heres hoping they bring it back in the future tho somehow, its such a cool visual

[austere willow]

cant go through Babut's grabs, idk if it goes through the bosses' grab attacks

[burnt slate]

it'd be funny if it couldn't counter gala's multi-slash or sword spin since it was a grab attack back in rtdl

since multi-hits against the player wasn't fine tuned at that point

[fathom cradle]

does it work the same here?

i guess the point is literally that you aren't sure

[burnt slate]

ya, I just started mag's hell trip after doing a clean up of everything else

[fathom cradle]

we should get an emote of weak magolor at some point

[vocal latch]

Time for Magologue for me.

[burnt slate]

still, im pretty curious over what dx has changed or remained the same with galacta other than the obvious stuff like more energy swords and revolution beam explosion

sux now that the TA is bigger, which means more work until I can reach him to do some testing, but whatever

[fathom cradle]

||always gotta do 18 bosses first||

||i noticed there's a pretty clear structure to it too, first 10 bosses are always the ex ones, ending with landia ex, then leading into the 4 main epilogue bosses, then final 7||

neat that they did that since i feel like ||it would be sussy to get goriath then hydriath right after lol||

[burnt slate]

[vocal latch]

I'm still confused AF on what other masks do

Do some give slightly more damage or smth???

[fathom cradle]

if there are other effects, we don't know what they are

[granite cedar]

i did it. i did everything.

i am

still comprehending it all

[vocal latch]

Congrats!

[fathom cradle]

[vocal latch]

||Gem Apple & Shopkeeper origin story was real after all||

||||

[granite cedar]

i think the timing of western fandom starting to find out ||that magolor in clash is mainline magolor and his christianity theming right around remake's release|| is very funny

like talk about fate

[vocal latch]

YEAH

[fathom cradle]

@burnt slate i'm not gonna do it rn but ||i tried out mk and yeah. the shuttle loop iframes are still plentiful||

[granite cedar]

||i honestly don't even mind it being setup like this. it actually explains it far more why would he do something like this. aka this was first "selfless" act to truly atone before coming back to dream land||

[vocal latch]

||Yeah I LOVE that they actually show it now||

||Good job!!! Less interview-only lore!!||

[granite cedar]

ppl discussed this here already probably but ||i love how full upgrade text on magolor's abilities actually showcases his character growth||

[leaden terrace]

so klu

[vocal latch]

Yeah!

[leaden terrace]

how do u feel about magolor rn

[burnt slate]

ez win

[granite cedar]

this one especially hits different

[fathom cradle]

the upgrade text is actually peak

i need more of this

[granite cedar]

this game is his revenge of the king moment

[vocal latch]

||Triple Deluxe 2 ||

[spice osprey]

upgrade text so I good I even did the ones for the ability maxes before the cap upgrade

[leaden terrace]

im going to make a whole comic about this.

[granite cedar]

going from good character with potential to a great character with potential actually being realized

[leaden terrace]

likem soon. i have everything in mind.

[fathom cradle]

[granite cedar]

timeline where labyrinth novel happened (bad timeline)

actually that timeline is probably where magolor didn't go through atoning at all lol

[vocal latch]

||Yeah we did talk like twice about how Magolor seems to just like to bully Taranza lmfao||

[leaden terrace]

maliciously even

[granite cedar]

ok yeah but since i literally just finished true arena i want to ask

||WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT VOID THING IN THE BACKGROUND OF MAGOLOR SOUL FIGHT ?????????????????????||

[spice osprey]

also do you guys still need the ||full upgrade magologue desc|| picture because I can go get that

[leaden terrace]

i think we just need them like

stitched together

just for convenience

[vocal latch]

||The orb now literally reuses Void Termina's core texture & effect btw. Faye checked||

[granite cedar]

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN

[leaden terrace]

lol how tf

[granite cedar]

KUMAZAKI WHAT ARE YOU COOKING ??????

[leaden terrace]

how tf did u get that key

[vocal latch]

I'm on mobile 😭

[leaden terrace]

OH FAIR AWFAWFSWDSDW

[vocal latch]

|¦ are close to each other there

[granite cedar]

also wow i guess i was wrong

kumazaki might just be doing something with ||void after all||

[leaden terrace]

hehehe

or should i say

hee hee hee

[fathom cradle]

||the subtle connections to other bosses weren't enough||

[vocal latch]

||Well, the fight is in Another Dimension, and we know that there's as many Voids flying as there are dimensions ||

[fathom cradle]

||now we're literally putting void models into soul fights now||

[spice osprey]

also while i'm here does the true arena let you bring in the magoland items because there's no way in hell i'm doing it legit when I do unlock it

[fathom cradle]

it does

[granite cedar]

also i find it interesting how they just stated now that master crown is evil as fuck and even landia is barely holding it together while protecting it

[fathom cradle]

it marks your run if you care about that but you have access to everything

[burnt slate]

the mark of shame

[leaden terrace]

||you need magolent. worlds most reliable lore verification tool!||

[vocal latch]

||If it is meant to mean anything, my guess would be it's a Void who's starting to get dyed by things?||

[spice osprey]

time to play an unreasonable amount of egg catcher

[limpid edge]

||Electricky Dooter and Hydriath are in a polycule with Fiery Puffer Kumazaki is my son he told me||

[vocal latch]

||Also a neat nod to Parallel Landia lol||

[granite cedar]

my personal baseless interpretation is that ||amount of dark matter energy from the master crown was enough to start breaking the void's seal||

[vocal latch]

||Who was "blinded by the crown's power"||

[granite cedar]

but like i guess ||new magolor soul phase|| is as close to ||zero three as we gonna get||

its literally ||third phase too lol||

[vocal latch]

||Magolor's eyes being gone is even further funny 0² reference||

[granite cedar]

yeah lmao

[granite cedar]

||dark core... maybe im onto something with my interepretation||

[vocal latch]

||Same filenames as VT's core files because they're reused lol||

[granite cedar]

ah makes sense

[vocal latch]

||AND (KIND-OF) CANONIZED ‼️||

[leaden terrace]

wtf does this imply tho

it even shoots like the rings.

[granite cedar]

wait

||is this phase canon||

i would LOVE It to be canon but

[vocal latch]

||The ending of it makes me think so, though Magolor Epilogue uses the Extra Mode defeat animation.||

||Either way, Magolor Soul SWEEP||

[granite cedar]

ending does tie into beginning of epilogue better than usual animation

[vocal latch]

||Yeah||

||And I mean, Soul was canonized already, so why not?||

||Really funny how we're slowly getting Soul Bosses canon now lmfao||

[vast basin]

HD

[granite cedar]

also while this is not explicitly confirmed or anything (to my knowledge, i know there is some sort of unlockable cutscene for extra missions) ||i guess future manager magolor kinda did outlive beast virus theory after all||

[fathom cradle]

[vast basin]

wtf hi Klu, you beat the thingy?

[granite cedar]

yes

just like

[cedar solstice]

you want more?

[granite cedar]

30 minutes ago

[vast basin]

Sweet, wdyt of it

[fathom cradle]

have you seen the new extra mode dialogue

for 120 spheres

[vast basin]

He has a lot

[granite cedar]

you mean that you get after 120 spheres?

yeah

[vast basin]

Magolor is a FREAK

[granite cedar]

it left me speechless lol

[vocal latch]

CLAY WAS RIGHT

[fathom cradle]

it's a great reward

[leaden terrace]

wait what about clay

[granite cedar]

i was actually for YEARS thought magolor was halcandran

and then hes like

"you know. im not sorry bro"

[cedar solstice]

spoiler tag that bro

[granite cedar]

technically its extra mode thing

[leaden terrace]

yeah bro ,smh bro!

[vast basin]

He’s such a weirdo

[cedar solstice]

yes but it's still remake exclusive

[fathom cradle]

lmfao

[cedar solstice]

and a huge thing

[fathom cradle]

it's fine

[leaden terrace]

||THNAK BADNESS AJSDKDJHKSDLASRHFWe||

[granite cedar]

HOW DID I MISS THAT

LMFAO

[leaden terrace]

LMAFOFOOFO

[fathom cradle]

that second image is literally him in half the upgrade text

[leaden terrace]

||HE JUST LIVES TO BE EVIL. ||

RO*WEP(YWHEDJAWDHKHAWDLAWf

[granite cedar]

him still being kinda evil/resentful at first in epilogue does add a lot to him actually changing later on

oh speaking of epilogue

[cedar solstice]

anyway here's dedede surprised face in hd

[granite cedar]

||I SOMEHOW PREDICTED FINAL BOSS WHISPY WOODS?????????????||

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

[fathom cradle]

the magolor dialogue is legit such a joy to read bc he's just such a little gremlin egg

[leaden terrace]

||I laughed my fucking ASS off upon seeing that||

[granite cedar]

actually by that point where i got in the game

i like

completely forgot that there was no ||whispy variant||

[leaden terrace]

||ACTUALLY NO I LAUGHED MY ENTIRE BUTTOCKS OFF UPON SEEING THE CREDITS||

[granite cedar]

then this happened

[granite cedar]

i think it should be funnier than it is but they gave this thing rawest design imaginable like wtf

[leaden terrace]

FR

[granite cedar]

and fight itself is like. genuinely fantastic what

[leaden terrace]

||imagine making trees COOL||

guys holy SHIT

[granite cedar]

lmao

magolor epilogue spoilers no context

[vast basin]

Magolor’s Week

Monday: Put products on discount (actually raise the prices)
Tuesday: Read necronomicon
Wednesday: Travel to the realm of treeants (lumber)
Thursday: Gaslight Taranza
Friday: Sell the blood of the covenant
Saturday: Conduct evil scheme
Sunday: Magolor day!

[leaden terrace]

BHJAFKHSDHS

[cedar solstice]

||master crown: fuck he beat all the other bosses, who do I possess?
whispy: this place rocks yo there's no kirby around here
master crown: eh he'll do||

[vocal latch]

Did you check second pin lmao

[granite cedar]

HAHAHAHA

i didnt check pins at all thanks for mentioning this

ok yeah and also all music in epilogue slaps hard

[leaden terrace]

NO KIDDING

[granite cedar]

ando didnt compose much for forgotten land purely so he could compose the shit out of epilogue

[leaden terrace]

i fucking love them sm

[vocal latch]

||Fucking Gem Apple currency has the craziest lore||

[ruby plaza]

I can't wait to shitpost mod this game

[leaden terrace]

i love ||onward to a pain my heart knows well because it's so uptlifting yet melancholic which fits magolor so much||

oh no. ive just started typing magalor

[granite cedar]

make dream land great again

I DIDNT KNOW THERE WAS SEPARATE DESCRIPTION FOR ||ULTRA SWORD PHASE||

KUMAZAKIIIIIII

its so raw too wtf

[vocal latch]

||Pay For One's Sin||

[granite cedar]

oh yeah uhh

any thoughts on ||master's death thing|| in metal general descriptions

[leaden terrace]

saying it again

someones gonna make a comic about that

and its gonna make all of us cry

[vast basin]

Oh Klu ive been waiting to tell you how silly the epilogue is

[granite cedar]

is this foreshadowing that ||we will see what brought an end to halcandran civilization in master crown fight||

[vast basin]

||the judas expo redeems himself by fighting the demonic manifestation of the original sin

Except he doesn’t because he just takes the corpse, fucks off to another timeline and starts a business with it||

||Unironically hillarious, he saw a lesson and refused to learn it. Fate ordained him a redemption arc and he said “no actually i think i’ll keep being myself 🖕 “||

||To top it all off, the altar where you make the big Apple is called the room of eden in Japanese lmfao||

[novel fog]

oh hey btw Baro did you see I sent the JP description for ||Magolor (restored)|| as well as Kirby's Arena one? gonna add those to doc?

[vocal latch]

I will

Thx!

[leaden terrace]

||As soon as he saw an opportunity to capitalize, he just relapses||

||It reminds me of that The Boys meme where the guy goes "Alright!" (i havent watched The Boys)||

[granite cedar]

i mean tbh ||i kinda interpreted that him trying to actually genuinely help this time, just in his own way||

especially since ||he takes no money for anything in magoland in the present||

that said i just want to say that him changing his clothes to blue ones when you buy off all his stock in clash now

hits differently

||he's about to return to dream land||

[vast basin]

||It does lead directly into clash, and there’s a pause description that says something like

“Perhaps he has learned his lesson? Or… maybe not.”||

[novel fog]

||he did say he wanted to make a shop in new Extra 120 Spheres description, so makes sense he did just that lol||

[leaden terrace]

||stays around for the next game "teehee"||

[granite cedar]

yup

he's basically like

doing something somewhat altruistic

while also furthering his "goals" again

just more harmless ones

ONLY thing im somewhat disappointed about is like

||lack of any acknowledgement that story mode/extra mode events Happened in magoland via manager magolor dialogue||

[vast basin]

||Now that he's restored all
of his powers, Magolor is
reborn! Maybe he'll use his
powers to help others this
time! Or maybe not...||

[granite cedar]

i expected at least SOME Cheeky shit from him

[vast basin]

The intro of magoland makes it clear that you’re not really supposed to look too much into it

[granite cedar]

looks much into it

[vast basin]

Fuck!!

[fathom cradle]

"please guys forget about the lore for one second and just play booming blasters"

[vast basin]

As for me, my personal pet peeve is some of the voice line changes from Kirby

[granite cedar]

i would be ignoring it if not for the fact that you literally see magoland in the background of first nutty noon stage

[fathom cradle]

NO HI YAH

[vast basin]

No Haiya >:(

[burnt slate]

think that magoland is could be happening in the present time (after FL)

[fathom cradle]

i feel like the only truly weird part about magoland is the fact you can see it from nutty noon

[granite cedar]

also extra mode dialogue ||literally outlining timeline of events for him lmao||

[novel fog]

||I mean, then it appears in Nutty Noon stage 1, and Magolor talks about wanting to build theme park in both Epilogue and Extra Mode 120 Spheres dialogue; it is likely future Magolor, and Mast caused distortions and shit||

[granite cedar]

||epilogue > clash > magoland||

[burnt slate]

forgot dream collections

[granite cedar]

well that is precisely why i overthink it

its canon. its there.

[leaden terrace]

sorry i ated magoland

[granite cedar]

future magolor theory outlived beast virus

[leaden terrace]

its not there anymore

[novel fog]

||I mean there's also Dedede's Drum Dash Deluxe, but we don't know exact order they're in||

[vast basin]

“Hey, so we just met the guy, right”
“Yeah”
“Why is there a massive theme park with his face on it over there”
“That’s a timeline anomaly. Please ignore it.”

[granite cedar]

oh yeah i also think ||its a very nice touch that magolor soul throws you an apple RIGHT before he gets completely consumed by the crown as the last ditch help from magolor himself||

this game actually has some massive storytelling improvements

i think with both rtdl dx and forgotten land i can safely say that they are gonna be taking stories and lore more seriously now in this "new era"

[ruby plaza]

Apparently Magolor is known as Mahoroa in the files

[granite cedar]

its his jp name

[fathom cradle]

another guy to add to the list of narcissistic kirby characters who slap their face on everything

[vast basin]

Rtdl-tdx-pr is basically a trilogy of narcissists

[fathom cradle]

everyone's good at branding in this universe ig

we needed more hyness faces on everything in star allies

[granite cedar]

another reason why hyness is cringefail

[leaden terrace]

"Gweehee mahoroooaaaaa!! wahahaaah"
"Welp, there goes the next 18 hours of our adventure. Anyone wants tortillas?"
"What What the fuck are you guys talking about"

[granite cedar]

he can't even be narcissistic right

[burnt slate]

he doesn't like his face tho

[granite cedar]

does he

i was under impression he was "hiding it" because those were ritualistic clothes

[leaden terrace]

tbh he wears it in that one

pic

and doesnt wear it except the clothing in the other pic

u know what i mean

im too lazy to name them

its the one with the mages

[granite cedar]

yeah its kinda inconsistent

[leaden terrace]

i think he just wears it whenever he feels like it

[vast basin]

Its a hood on kinda day

[leaden terrace]

its ok he just got a few screws loose this is a normal thing now 😊

[vocal latch]

||My current headcanon for Magoland in Nutty Noon background is that the Lor's mast kinda fucked time & space up lmfao||

[granite cedar]

yeah basically

i think this is why intro dialogue for magoland emphasizes "different time"

[vocal latch]

||While Merry Magoland mode itself is after Forgotten Land IMO||

[granite cedar]

it was indeed always from the future

and magolor can record all your progress from the adventure... because he lived it. lmao

[vocal latch]

||and different world in the sense that it's the world of tomorrow and whatnot yknow||

[granite cedar]

but like honestly im glad that there is this sort of explanation because

i wont lie even if this is not something we should think hard about, having masks of future characters that they havent met yet would break my brain otherwise

[maiden crane]

i love/hate how
itd be so easy to say ||merry magoland is just post forgotten land||

||but then its fucking in the background of Nutty Noon||

[granite cedar]

i mean again

time distortion shit

its the same way rtdl bosses come there + gang from story/extra mode coming there

[vocal latch]

||I like to think the Landia in Magoland is Clash Landia which is why they have the Master Crown still.||

[vast basin]

the worst thing this game does is that ||now i have to take Clash seriously again||

[vocal latch]

Heheheheh

[leaden terrace]

sorry jedi but it is how it is

[granite cedar]

i mean at the end of the day it just means that everything except ||magolor himself|| is just alternate timeline

well

not timeline, universe

my brain not working today

[vocal latch]

|| ||

[leaden terrace]

||at least dark taranza is canon now so im happy 😌 ||

[vocal latch]

||Oh yeah Klu, JP version of HR-D3 mentions how it crosses dimensions & parallels. Only other times the word "parallel" used there was used, was for Team Kirby Clash Deluxe interview & Meta Knightmare Returns Miiverse post||

[leaden terrace]

||oh wait that means dark taranza is also canonically dead||

well im not happy ☹️

[vocal latch]

||It's from the bad timeline where GCN happened lmfao||

[vast basin]

well there's ||the Susie minidrama from the 2017 website where she also crosses into the dimension herself and sasses off with PSoos||

||there's also now a non-zero chance that Taranza in TKCD is main timeline Taranza also fallen into the alternate timeline while he was doing something||

[granite cedar]

this makes the reusal of ||roar of dedede|| more poignant

timeline where ||dedede is still evil/an asshole||

[granite cedar]

what does even suggest the latter

[vocal latch]

||My best guess for Taranza entering the Dream Kingdom is using the Dimension Mirror to go to Another Dimension lmfao||

[granite cedar]

i know novels is like. Dubious thing to use as evidence but ||the clash novelization went out of it's way to like go "oh its not the same taranza wtf our taranza is a good boy"||

[novel fog]

||yeah, also note Galacta's is just 'dimensions' and 'time' instead, which is interesting||

[granite cedar]

but HONESTLY in the end im kind of glad they ||canonized??? clash||

because i think it streamlines things more rather than makes them confusing

[leaden terrace]

makes more sense than not imo

[granite cedar]

yeah

[novel fog]

||I am very curious what they will do with 'parallels' in the future||

[leaden terrace]

HAL just knows wtf they doing

[granite cedar]

if anything it once again shows to me that kuma does things to make lore more coherent now

[vast basin]

||i suppose i just took it that way given the other two wave 3'ers had direct contact with the clashverse, and that there's not much to suggest that was in any way different to differentiate the one we're familiar with ||

[granite cedar]

WOULDNT THAT BE ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS IF ||SUPER KIRBY CLASH GOT AN UPDATE NOW OUT OF THE BLUE||

[vocal latch]

||The Susie website drama was also referenced in Star Allies where when she's cooked, a Gem Apple sherbet appears.

MAGOLOR (https://www.nintendo.co.jp/3ds/jlkj/special/index.html)
中に入っタラ、ピンクのオンナノコが、売り物のジェムリンゴを勝手にシャーベットにシテ食べてるシ、ボクもうビックリしチャッタ。
I was so surprised when I went inside and saw a pink girl eating Gem Apples that were for sale, turning them into sherbet.

FRANCISCA (https://twitter.com/Kirby_JP/status/1090082144091688961)
秘書スージーはジェムリンゴシャーベット！
Secretary Susie is a Gem Apple Sherbet!||

[novel fog]

||I would love to see more spin-off game 'parallels' similar to Clash||

[granite cedar]

ahem

dreamy gear

please

[novel fog]

yeah, that's what I've been saying lmao

[granite cedar]

crying and begging on my knees

[novel fog]

make Dreamy Gear real smh

[vast basin]

no way fransoos real

[granite cedar]

LMAO IT MAKES GEM APPLES SHERBET SO FUNNY NOW

||yes susie fucking making an ice cream out of remains of origin of sin||

[craggy sable]

Hold on a second

-Silently counts something in order-

...Oh god,

[vast basin]

||religion is powerless against two capitalists 👍 ||

[vast basin]

no way fransoos real

[craggy sable]

(Magolor Epilogue Boss Prediction)
||Oh my fuck don't tell me the bosses are exactly where they were in PopStar... Don't you FUCKING TELL ME that my last boss is going to be... A tree||

[vocal latch]

||Again, I've said it before, it'd be really cool if the next Clash game, if it's not a sequel but another remaster or port or whatever, if it has like 2 stories: Black Mirror story, then after that Parallel Nightmare as a kind-of postgame||

[granite cedar]

............the fact that there is team kirby clash deluxe password referencing star allies is fucking with my brain right now

[vocal latch]

One of the passwords was even made when Magolor was announced for Star Allies lol

[vast basin]

it was pre-launch so it sorta makes sense

[vocal latch]

Yea

[lost frost]

||so does anything special happen if you lose the qte||

[unreal stag]

so

now that magolor epilogue is a thing

what do you think a hypothetical td/pr remake would have as an unlockable story

[vast basin]

coming soon: Susanna Prologue

Play as a 9 year old running away from Doomers

[unreal stag]

now that we have a baseline as to what to expect

[craggy sable]

This better be one impressive conclusion, I'm gonna lose my mind when I inevitably come to this pivotal moment

[granite cedar]

honestly i dont think they would have any

at least not the same as magolor epilogue

i think HAL would want to keep this sort of thing unpredictable instead of making it feel formulaic

[lost frost]

I mean

what would they add?

[vocal latch]

||It'd be cool to see the credits with her assigning a job for HWC and shit||

[granite cedar]

thats the thing

[lost frost]

do we really need a taranza prequel?

[granite cedar]

there is not much to add in the first place

[vocal latch]

||Hey if they make a Sectonia Prologue/Taranza Epilogue they could make the Magic Points their species power of leeching stuff||

[craggy sable]

GriefStricken Resolution:

[lost frost]

especially when we already have the other side modes in TD and RB

[granite cedar]

i think the likeliest "epilogue" is for susie

taranza's arc is too ambitious for one side mode like this

meanwhile

we can use seeing susie rebuilding HWC

[vocal latch]

||President Susie ||

[vast basin]

taranza needs a whole game lol

[granite cedar]

yeah

[vast basin]

/notbiased totes

[lost frost]

I think expanding on the already made side modes would be better personally

[craggy sable]

I sadly don't think Taranza needs a necromancy arc

[granite cedar]

this is why i dont jiff well with "taranza epilogue" idea

yeah lets put all his grief arc into one post-game mode

that would be totally satisfying after a decade of build up

(not)

[lost frost]

like dedede drum dash and meta knightmare returns(iirc) would be so good to flesh out

[leaden terrace]

i mean most of the time were talking prologue

i dont think anyone has actually said epilogue when it comes to taranza

[granite cedar]

prologue can work better but it also would be a bit wonkier imo

[craggy sable]

Taranza needs a "move on with this terrible event" arc

[leaden terrace]

and honestly i think itd be very interesting

[vocal latch]

||Shadow Kirby final boss in Taranza Prologue||

[granite cedar]

there is not much to flesh out about meta knightmare returns tbh

[lost frost]

(edited to put the REAL dedede side mode from TD)

[granite cedar]

it serves its purpose well

[lost frost]

ok but unironically D3tour is pretty kool

[granite cedar]

me when dededetour still has the best speedrun mode gimmick and literally nothing reused it since

kumazaki why are u like this

[vocal latch]

Yeah

[granite cedar]

ok yeah heres my another grievance with the remake

[lost frost]

but when are we getting drum dash lore tho?

[granite cedar]

i see no reason why they couldnt have added a speedrun mode

i dont even care about playing as other characters, i resolved that issue for myself

[vast basin]

honestly think its doable, it just needs a few things

||- Prior context from a recently finished campaign - much like Magolor has the context of RTDL's main story

• More cutscenes, probably with either dialogue or inferred emotions
• more stages than Eggilogue ||

[granite cedar]

but like...

[vocal latch]

Drum Dash lore ||literally gave the entire basis of Magologue & Magoland||

[granite cedar]

its easiest thing to add lol

[lost frost]

well dedede is a very specil boy so he gets all the kool stuff

[granite cedar]

i just hope that if they go down that route, it will take place in the "present" time then

[vast basin]

you mean most recently, not a sort of flashback?

[granite cedar]

yeah

kinda like revenge of the king taking place way after everything else in super star ultra

[leaden terrace]

If we're actually talking epilogues though, how would that really go for Taranza I wonder?

[lost frost]

||anyway her I go gushing about how good this silhouette looks again||

[granite cedar]

WAIT

I JUST REALIZED

||ITS LITERALLY MASTER CROWN||

what the fuck!

[lost frost]

oh and if D3tour ever gets remade

make d-mind the final boss

or like

a boss

who cares about shadow 3d

[granite cedar]

i hope they dont

would leave more questions than answers

[craggy sable]

(Epilogue Intro)
Man I do like that subversive reference to
||The introduction of Marx soul, with a sepia flashback to a character's supposed death before revealing that they're alive somehow... except no Magolor didn't die and reborn a vengeful soul in this case||

[granite cedar]

with shadow dedede at least its easy. he looked into the mirror, he got spawned

[lost frost]

eh just slap something something space time rift

it worked for new yoshi's island

[granite cedar]

you mean it didnt work

[maiden crane]

i though new yoshis Island a whole did not work

[leaden terrace]

why d-mind?

[vast basin]

see if i was the director ||(i harness the power of me sharing birthday with Sakurai and force myself into the position), i would simply make the final boss Taranza fighting Sectonia and then Sectonia getting to beat the shit out of Dark Mind||

[leaden terrace]

wow hi masahiro sakurai ur my greatest idol 🥺

[lost frost]

(genuinely though out of all things why did they decide that yoshi's island needed to have fucking time travel of all things)

[lost frost]

correct!

[vast basin]

[lost frost]

Honestly I just like him a lot design wise and fight wise

[leaden terrace]

fair i love d mind too

[lost frost]

he'd make a very fun normal boss

also was hammer nerfed in damage again?

[leaden terrace]

||Anyway this WOULD be the optimal plot||

[vast basin]

||see the third twist is that after the secc battle Dark Mind snatches Taranza up and the player gets to control secc ||

[leaden terrace]

||SO TRUE, SECTONIA TO THE RESCUE!!!||

[ruby plaza]

But where does the Bee movie become apart of it? /j

[granite cedar]

ok listening to ||Supreme Lord's Coronation - OVERLORD|| closely now

||MAGOLOR LITERALLY CRIES FOR HELP||

this is actually dark as hell

[vocal latch]

||They also confirm in Sound Test that Magolor Soul's scream sounding like him saying "KIRBY" was intentional||

[granite cedar]

YES

[lost frost]

||and the 4th twist is parallel nightmare shows up and beats secc making you have to beat him||

[vast basin]

NOT AGAIN

[granite cedar]

oh wow in the comments someone pointed something genius in the final pause description that was from ||magolor's POV||

[lost frost]

||also are both clashes canon?||

||or just super||

[leaden terrace]

||PARALLEL NIGHTMARE LOLOLOL||

[granite cedar]

instead of ||begging for kirby's help, magolor tries to lighten up the mood by being his usual self||

[leaden terrace]

||TKCD is the one canon RN, not sure about SKC||

[granite cedar]

contrasting with how he was pretending to get kirby's help in very beginning

[vocal latch]

||Magolor enters Team Kirby Clash Deluxe in Epilogue specifically. Broom Hatter & starting out in Castle Village.||

[leaden terrace]

I keep wanting to repeat myself whenever this Magolor convo comes up

am I crazy

or should I keep parroting myself

[granite cedar]

yeah theres nothing about skc specifically

[lost frost]

UGH

[vast basin]

Kumazaki comes out saying: "actually its both its just a split timeline thing"

[lost frost]

WHY DOES PRESSING ENTER DELETE HIGHLIGHTED STUFF

[fathom cradle]

||the Kirby master video is so funny now after not having those kinds of 100% rewards for so long||

[ruby plaza]

||I'm just confused, why does Magolor's coat turn to green?||

[fathom cradle]

||magolor sitting next to gk in the front row||

[ruby plaza]

Like specifically that color

[granite cedar]

tbh now im kinda hoping they will bring it back as a regular thing

[fathom cradle]

The color of commerce

[granite cedar]

with the knowledge they got D.A.G to do cutscenes in this too

it means HAL can allow themselves to do em

[vocal latch]

||Super Kirby Clash still references Clash Deluxe by Dark Taranza gear & Bandana Dee saying "being here sure brings back memories, huh?" when entering Castle Village but they don't recognize Kirby at the start of the game.||

[vast basin]

idk, in Christianity, Green is the color of fertility
white also represents purity

[ruby plaza]

||I can't believe Magolor took up another evil immediately after being free, Capitalism||

[vast basin]

Me having to look up colors in christianity thanks to that one magolor concept art thanks kuma

[vast basin]

ur a weirdo (we love u)

[granite cedar]

hmm it seems like ||in jp magolor pov description last sentence is more "playful" sounding||

[leaden terrace]

Me without any sleep wanting to look up the meaning of colors in Christianity too

[granite cedar]

makes sense to me

[fathom cradle]

✝️

[granite cedar]

that said otherwise translation is accurate

[novel fog]

||iirc in JP version Bandana Waddle Dee basically just says that the place 'feels familiar for some reason', which is very odd||

[leaden terrace]

I know red means baa nin Christianity

[leaden terrace]

i think its both tbh

||Magolor seems to say it like he sees Kirby and others as like a plaything||

[granite cedar]

i think its fitting that he has "fucked up" sense of humor

[leaden terrace]

not in like a villainous way but

[granite cedar]

but in jp its a bit more pronounced

[leaden terrace]

i can sense he has like a very weird way of treating others

[granite cedar]

yeah

he's a bit twisted

but he's more well meaning now

[leaden terrace]

being alone in halcandra for a long long time does that to ur mental health

[lost frost]

||speaking of clash. a clash game where instead of 4 kirbs you play as kirby with the many friends and foes in the series||

[granite cedar]

deadass my headcanon for why he is the way he was

he didn't have anyone he could call a friend

but now...

also makes sense why he's so hyperfocused on friendship now

[leaden terrace]

||My ass headcanons now that Magolor is full of self-pity and whatever he does is his way of solving that self-pity only to realize his wrongs after and fall into yet another cycle of self-pity||

[vast basin]

ass headcanons????

[granite cedar]

oh yeah also i just want to say

[leaden terrace]

MY ASS!!

MY AS!!!!

MY ASS, JEDI! MY ASS!!!

[granite cedar]

ishikawa is so chad for composing only one actual new track for rtdl dx

and track being TERRIFYING

[vast basin]

https://tenor.com/view/lanz-reyn-xenoblade-xenoblade3-gif-25896161

[leaden terrace]

UDHKAHFLWHFGKAGds

[lost frost]

||the tree one?||

[novel fog]

oh is it really only one?

[granite cedar]

well

[granite cedar]

there are few other "tracks"

but they are just ambience

[novel fog]

I knew he didn't do much but still lol

[granite cedar]

one with the actual music is just ||the final rest area before magolor soul||

and man

its genuinely terrifying lol

[leaden terrace]

||SO TRUE, THIS IS WHAT DEFINES HIM FOR ME||

[lost frost]

so how fast can you beat the final bosses

[lost frost]

link?

[novel fog]

||like how you can hear Magolor's theme in there||

[wintry turtle]

Yeah that had me like for a minute before going in

[austere willow]

oh did Klu cross the barrier

[vast basin]

BTW KLU DID YOU SEE THE ONE WHERE MAGOLOR SAYS|| "yeah i could totally take over a Kingdom in the Sky... if i wanted to ofc. lol. lmao.||

[ruby plaza]

Also I always thought the ears on the hat were just apart a fashion choice, I didn't relize magolor had pointy ears

[austere willow]

hiiiiiiiiiiiii Kluuuuuuuu

[granite cedar]

yeah i saw all of them

[vast basin]

WHAT IS HE UP TO

[marble jungle]

||I mean, it's not like I blindly came across an artifact and suddenly got my soul sucked away by that, is it?||

[vast basin]

LITTLE FREAK

[leaden terrace]

Just what is he cooking

[granite cedar]

ill look if its on youtube

[ruby plaza]

IIRC, 2 minutes?

[leaden terrace]

it is

[granite cedar]

considering other final upgrade dialogue

[leaden terrace]

its named uhm

[ruby plaza]

Each

[leaden terrace]

inward struggle

look it up

[granite cedar]

i think he's just "joking around"