[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

[shrewd turtle]

I do wonder ||what’s up with the epilogue bosses and why they’re listening to the crown. Are they the base game bosses corrupted by the crown? Who knows||

[urban bluff]

no

it literally say ||they work for the big doomer that become crowned doomer||

[worldly burrow]

probably like the parallel bosses from ksa

[shrewd turtle]

oh really? I didn’t realize it specified, where’s it said?

[urban bluff]

pause

[shrewd turtle]

I just remember it being vague which I assumed was ||the crown||

ok yeah but which one

[worldly burrow]

god i really dont wanna play the entire game again

extra mode was a mistake

[urban bluff]

||like, they are inhabitant of AD, under the rule of the doomer||

all of them

[shrewd turtle]

I see

[worldly burrow]

at least let me play as bandana dee or something 😭

[urban bluff]

they all mention ||being sent by a big boss to gather fruit fragment||

[magic gate]

Ok so judging by the sound track its called ||Mistilteinn||

the song is called ||Mistilteinn, Tree Crown without a Ruler||

[shrewd turtle]

doesn’t ||grand doomers pause say the same thing or am I thinking of the little doomers||

[ruby narwhal]

||its for the 4 little doomer||

[shrewd turtle]

ah ok

[ruby narwhal]

Also ||why does rampaging doomers (the name of the 4 doomer boss) sound like a really cool emo punk band||

[thin prairie]

im gonna do arena then go to sleep

[ruby narwhal]

||and don’t forget about crowned doomer being the lead singer||

[thin prairie]

doomers down

too bad it took 2 minutes

[fathom cradle]

On the ||last fight of true arena||

||About to beat it first try with sand, sand is so op lol||

[faint galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/sandintheeyes-drtsand-drt-boombeach-gif-19235077

POV: ||Magolor Soul's eye||

[shrewd turtle]

sand really is busted lol

[worldly burrow]

???

sand is terrible for me

[thin prairie]

i hate grand doomer

he teleports so fast and i can never hit him

[shrewd turtle]

block is invincible just like leaf and grounded up + b or down + b does big damage

it’s basically leaf but with bigger, stronger, and easier to use attacks

[worldly burrow]

beat the arena in like 7 mins with good ol hammer

[urban bluff]

it's basically leaf but also high jump but also water but also suplex(????????)

the strong thing about sand is you can leave a sand castle as active hitbox for bosses to touch while you attack them

[austere willow]

Sand is if Leaf was Stone and Whip

[fathom cradle]

Sand being able to move out of bad situations while in guard is really damn good

[austere willow]

in exchange for less projectiles, you get more sand

[fathom cradle]

And you can combo the hi jump damage with downwards sand ball or castle to drop on their heads

[thin prairie]

is grand doomer phase 3 not in the arena??

[fathom cradle]

||beat true arena, time is 24:31.63||

[thin prairie]

thats so weird

[fathom cradle]

Bc they don't have phases that require you to have a certain ability

[thin prairie]

why???

[worldly burrow]

so you arent forced to ditch your main

[fathom cradle]

Bc you can play as bandee, mk and ddd after you beat it once

And bc that yea

[thin prairie]

well its still dumb

[fathom cradle]

[thin prairie]

thats the best part of the battle

at least keep it if you play as kirby

[shrewd turtle]

I kinda found grand doomer phase 3 annoying in base game so I didn’t mind

[shrewd turtle]

but that would give the other 3 an unfair advantage since they get to skip it

[urban bluff]

the thing is, people will lose their ability if forced to do it

this is also why they threw grand mam out of SA arena

[thin prairie]

well boohoo life is unfair sometimes

[worldly burrow]

???

[shrewd turtle]

but why make it unfair when you could just not

[thin prairie]

might as well cut the whole battle if you cut the only good part

yes im very salty

[shrewd turtle]

yeah life is unfair but if you could just choose not to make it unfair they’re gonna choose the one that makes it not unfair

[novel fog]

||it could also be Grand Doomer, or both||

[solid narwhal]

So all the parallel characters now are

Whispy
Kracko
Dedede
Mega Knight
Dooter
Puffer
Iarth
Landia
Susie
And Nightmare

[urban bluff]

also like

they have been doing that for like, every modern kirby game, why complain now?

[shrewd turtle]

yeah that seems more likely which made me sad ||it being crown is kinda cooler imo but that’s ok||

[thin prairie]

because i really like that part of grand doomer okay

[novel fog]

||I mean crown could be influencing it in some way, but who knows||

[misty onyx]

can anyone tell me what stage the HAL room is in in ME? i wanna try and figure out how to find it myself thought

[solid narwhal]

Don’t think I kissed any..wiat did Taranza have one?

[fathom cradle]

||it's in the hub||

[misty onyx]

INTERESTING

[urban beacon]

How to get gold mask

[thin prairie]

do everything

[urban beacon]

ok

[thin prairie]

basically 100%

[urban beacon]

rip

[thin prairie]

at least i think thats it

[urban beacon]

time to grind minigames for the damn 120

Then true arena, then 100% ME then extra mode

Then im done

[misty onyx]

ok i just found it that was easy LOL

[urban beacon]

It says for completing main mode

So

[fathom cradle]

Yea it's honestly not that hidden lmao

[urban beacon]

Probably eveththing but merry magoland

[thin prairie]

oh that makes sense

i think that means 100% in the main story and maybe extra mode

not sure

[misty onyx]

||i think when i first when to that area earlier i thought it was an undroppable platform so i didn't bother||

[fathom cradle]

i think it is at first?

i remember ||trying to go down but it didn't work||

||i'm not sure when it unlocks||

[misty onyx]

ok yea that's how i remembered it too i thought i was just mistaken

that makes sense though

[thin prairie]

i just beat magolors first form using a maxim tomato box

[tired bough]

||im so confused on magalors epilogue why the hell id the master crown a tree||

[thin prairie]

||it touched the fruit||

||i think thats what the pause screen says||

[tired bough]

I’m having so much trouble beating it lmao

[shrewd turtle]

||corrupted the big gem apple just like it corrupted and warped magolors form||

[tired bough]

||master crown|| pause description: ||those who wear the master crown will gain power, but so will the darkness in their hearts. Thanks to the red fruit, it’s become a wrathful wreath—a destroyer called the tree crown without a ruler!||

Kinda but doesn’t really explain how

[shrewd turtle]

that’s basically saying the ||master crown has found a “vacant” host, the crown usually corrupts a heart into darkness but when the crown finds a host with no heart it becomes a heart of pure darkness||

||it probably helps that the gem apple is already a seemingly powerful artifact||

[tired bough]

||that sounds awful, so I guess this means magalor didn’t intend to take it that far when the master crown took over him||

||Is there lore with the gem apple?||

[shrewd turtle]

||yeah, magolor wanted the crown for power. I doubt he expected to get corrupted, either that or he thought he was strong enough to resist it like Landia does||

[thin prairie]

||not that much||

[shrewd turtle]

||so far not really? A Japanese Twitter post says Susie eats parfait with gem apples in it, and since this was actually referenced in star allies it might be canon? Which means the apples are edible…not that that’s majorly important…||

[thin prairie]

||seemingly just an interdimensional fruit with many uses||

||including bombs if the ones SA magolor has are real||

[tired bough]

||maybe the gem apple is pure and helps control power such as the master crown||

[novel fog]

||actually it was the TKCD official site, but yeah||

||in TKCD itself they seem to be edible too, since you use them to gain Vigor and stuff||

[thin prairie]

what do you need for ||gold kirby mask||

[tired bough]

||But since the master crown took it over and the pause screen says it has no heart the tree is the embodiment of evil ig||

[thin prairie]

||100% completion in main game or everything||

[novel fog]

||I think 100% Main and Extra but not sure||

[thin prairie]

ok

[fathom cradle]

it's ||100% main mode||

[thin prairie]

also i just beat (normal) arena

[fathom cradle]

which is more than just ||100% story mode and extra mode||

[tired bough]

I hate lor challenges

[shrewd turtle]

How did I not notice that

what the fuck

[novel fog]

huh really?

[fathom cradle]

yes

i did story mode and extra mode before doing epilogue

[thin prairie]

how much is it

[fathom cradle]

i did not unlock ||gold mask until i got everything in main mode done (it unlocked after true arena)||

[novel fog]

is Magoland included in that

[fathom cradle]

i'm assuming not bc the file select first gives you an option between main mode and merry magoland

[tired bough]

Do I have to do every challenge in magoland for extra mode or nah

[fathom cradle]

no

[thin prairie]

no

[tired bough]

thank god

took me like 5 hours

[thin prairie]

just beat the final boss and it should unlock

[novel fog]

because I think I saw someone get it without 100%ing absolutely everything?

though I might be mistaken

[tired bough]

best ability for the arena

[fathom cradle]

you probably don't have to go so far as to get all plats or anything

[novel fog]

probably Sand, it is really good at least

[tired bough]

meant the arena lol

but I’ll try sand

[novel fog]

well either way lol

[fathom cradle]

i'm assuming you at least need to|| beat everything in main mode once||

i did ||true arena|| first try with sand

[tired bough]

the shield on sand is too op

[rose dome]

||the second or first true arena boss to be canon?||

[fathom cradle]

if you ever feel like you're in danger just guard

except for stuff like inhales

[tired bough]

Can anything hurt you if you guard

[tawdry mulch]

Lol making it as complicated as possible

[tired bough]

besides whispy inhale

[tawdry mulch]

It's just canon lmao

[fathom cradle]

i'm pretty sure i've seen stuff like ||hr d3's lasers hurt through guard||

[shrewd turtle]

||I honestly think it might be an error since you don’t even need to have seen magolor soul to unlock magolors epilogue, at least I HOPE that’s the case as it confuses things a LOT||

[fathom cradle]

one of those ||laser attacks that makes fire spew up from the ground|| did that i think

[tired bough]

I’ll watch out for that thanks

[fathom cradle]

just in case i would at least dodge easy attacks

but stuff like the ||rampaging and crowned doomer explosions|| gets really annoying and you can thankfully just guard those

[novel fog]

@vocal latch someone in another server got one of the JP descriptions we were missing, also have JP Kirby Arena one (English one was posted sometime yesterday), if you want to add those to the doc

[tired bough]

Wait they’re in this arena damn

[fathom cradle]

which one are you doing

[tired bough]

The arena

[fathom cradle]

oh lol

no the normal arena just has everything from story mode

[tired bough]

Alright good

[vale river]

Really thought he was gonna say "have a bad time"

[tired bough]

I couldn’t beat ||master crown||

[fathom cradle]

leo can you tell me how much time i have in rtdx

i can't check myself

[vale river]

You have "first played 2 days ago" hours

[fathom cradle]

you can see in the trending tab

[novel fog]

||also restored Magolor has new picture in the pause description, nice||

[fathom cradle]

if you click rtdx

[vale river]

25 or more hours

I know smh

I wanted to troll

[fathom cradle]

thank you

[vale river]

How about me

[fathom cradle]

First played 1 day ago hours

[shrewd turtle]

3 minute

[vale river]

You dare use my own spells against me potter

[fathom cradle]

10 hours or more

[vale river]

:(

Not gaming

[fathom cradle]

i have been no lifing so hard with this game

[vale river]

Lmao

I did have a seven hour shift today

Anyways what's the fastest way to grind points in ME

[fathom cradle]

||trickery 6 challenge ||

in ||locandra||

[vale river]

Ah

That makes sense

[fathom cradle]

you get ||1600 magic points in like a min||

[vale river]

Wow

[fathom cradle]

it goes even faster with ||upgraded surge||

[wintry turtle]

I also do the || rampaging doomers boss||

2200 per fight and only takes like a minute 30 or so

[hollow rain]

I was just about to ask about that and happened to see that.

[dawn forum]

||Mistilteinn|| when magalor hits it with that dollar store energy blast

[hollow rain]

Anyway, Magolor's Epilogue was AWESOME!

I love the combo and upgrades mechanic.

[novel fog]

||also just noticed JP description for Crowned Doomer uses 赤き果実 while Master Crown's uses 赤き実 for the red fruit, interesting||

[fathom cradle]

yeah the upgrades are neat

[hollow rain]

How much do I have to spoiler?

[fathom cradle]

i love the dialogue that accompanies each one

[hollow rain]

Same.

[fathom cradle]

new stuff in epilogue and true arena

[novel fog]

hope someone compiles them all in English and Japanese eventually

[hollow rain]

The ||increasing mobility|| is so cool. Love getting a high combo.

[fathom cradle]

you do see all the quotes in the upgrade screen even at max

except for ||the ones when you have a temporary max limit||

[hollow rain]

||Finale was REALLY unexpected and kind of random. Loved it!||

[fathom cradle]

||upgraded magolor surge is insane||

[glossy mortar]

the upgrade dialogue is so cute

[novel fog]

||luckily those ones don't seem to be much in Japanese at least, but would like to see English equivalents||

[fathom cradle]

oh lol sadly i didn't screenshot them

[glossy mortar]

Bastard compilation

[fathom cradle]

but they all start off the same way and end with a ||pun related to the move about how he can't come up with more ideas||

[glossy mortar]

(these are not my screenshots i stole them from a tumblr user iirc)

[novel fog]

I've seen a few at least lol

[vale river]

||Of course the final level for Mischief is 5586 lol funny Hal||

[hollow rain]

I love how it shows that even if Magalor wasn't as evil as he seemed (pretty sure it's canon that the crown made him evil), he still has a mischievous side.

[novel fog]

||JP ones just seem to be same but with move name swapped out from what I saw, so rare localization W||

[vale river]

Fufufufu

[glossy mortar]

EXACTLY you get it

[hollow rain]

Cool.

[fathom cradle]

||rare treehouse w??||

[hollow rain]

||Best Whispy fight ever.||

[vale river]

Beyond rare

The cow is still alive

[lofty condor]

||I swear to god RtDX made his character soooooo interesting||

[fathom cradle]

||fully upgraded upwards magic sphere dialogue||

[lofty condor]

||Like, he’s a horrible person and I love him for it||

[fathom cradle]

|| 🌸 ||

[glossy mortar]

finally taking time to listen to the new music

wiggles in excitement this is so good

[novel fog]

||lot of the JP ones only use two lines from what I saw, interestingly||

[vale river]

Wtf

[glossy mortar]

||i love Mistilteinn, Tree Crown Without A Ruler for the same reasons i love CROWNED. while it's obviously an intense battle song, it's also tragic in nature to highlight that the situation in of itself really is miserable||

[hollow rain]

You just know that there will be a YT video where they try to beat the game without upgrades. Obviously it's possible, but I can imagine it being VERY difficult.

[vale river]

I FORGOT TO PAUSE ON THE ME FINAL BOSSES 😭

I'm so dumb lmao

[lofty condor]

YOU MONSTER

[glossy mortar]

that's the difference between Under My Control/Whatever We're calling It Now and CROWNED as well i might go on a magolor ramble for a moment do excuse me

[fathom cradle]

||there's a separate pause screen in the ultra sword sequence as well||

very sneaky one

[glossy mortar]

hold on ill ramble in a moment

[hollow rain]

I'm upset that I have to beat the whole game in hard mode to unlock the truest arena. I already did the hardest mode. Now I have to do this really long in-between difficulty.

[hollow rain]

Wow.

[urban beacon]

I wonder why the cutscene for me opening is magolor soul

I dont think thats a error on the devs part

[thin prairie]

welcome your new overlord

honestly under my control is a shit title

no likey

[tired bough]

How do I unlock true arena

[hollow rain]

Do hard mode too.

[vale river]

And it's a doozy wtf

This changes the entire mode for me

[hollow rain]

You have to do hard mode and Magalor's Epilogue.

[tired bough]

Wdym hard mode

oh extra

[hollow rain]

Yes.

[tired bough]

I still have to beat ||master crown||

[hollow rain]

Idk why they call it that. It's literally just a hard mode.

Ah.

[vale river]

Based on Kirby's Adventure

[tired bough]

It’s hard ngl

[vale river]

Or maybe Dl1? Was it called Extra there too?

[thin prairie]

yeah

[tired bough]

What’s with Nintendo and tree bosses

[thin prairie]

or actually i think it was technically extra game in DL1

[hollow rain]

They managed to get really close or maybe even top FL and SA (HiAD) bosses. Actually definitely topped HiAD bosses.

Idk.

[vital pasture]

Does anyone know what is track 199 in the sound test?

It isn't unlocked still

[hollow rain]

Ah.

[wintry turtle]

plat on every stage and fully upgraded lets gooo

[hollow rain]

||The finale would've been SOOOO difficult without checkpoints holy crap||

[shrewd turtle]

(Epilogue spoilers) ||who wants to bet this random fucking sword will somehow be referenced or have some lore importance later lol||

[thin prairie]

maybe its a hal room

i know there are songs locked behind them

[vale river]

I'd guess it's the ||Kirby Master cutscene||

That's the last track in the jukebox so it makes sense to me

[vital pasture]

I entered all 4 hal rooms

[lofty viper]

||Which Magologue stages are the HAL rooms in?||

[novel fog]

||'Deluxe Master!'||

[vital pasture]

And my file is already 100%

[vital pasture]

Whats this

[vale river]

Did you watch the Kirby Master cutscene?

[vital pasture]

Yeah

[tired bough]

||is there a strategy to fight master crown||

[novel fog]

idk for sure, but might be for ||all 120 Magoland missions|| based on what I've heard

[vital pasture]

Uhh

Those are pain

[novel fog]

if not, then idk

I just know others are having trouble with getting that song too

[lofty viper]

||i powered up Surge until i could do the double one, if you go back and forth it's an easy invincible move with a lot of hits for combos||

[tired bough]

Surge is the one where tou dash B right

That’s what I’ve been doing

[lofty viper]

yse

[thin prairie]

there is a song for all magoland missions

[lofty viper]

199 is definitely ||all magoland missions||

[fathom cradle]

i can confirm

[lofty viper]

are there any besides the 2 in story mode and the 1 in Magologue?

[fathom cradle]

the funny 100%
||https://vxtwitter.com/KingProclaimed/status/1629656506030501888 ||

[fathom cradle]

there's a new one

||in story/extra||

[lofty viper]

thanks, may you please point me to where i can find both new ones

[novel fog]

||Dangerous Dinner Stage 2||

[fathom cradle]

the one in story/extra is ||in 7-2||. if you want more details ||it's in the crusher room.|| You have to ||wait 86 seconds at the end||

the one in epilogue is ||in the hub.|| specifically ||to the east of 2-1, it's under a platform you can duck through||

[lofty viper]

tyvm

[fathom cradle]

also i'm pretty sure for the epilogue one, ||you can't reach it at first (like when you first reach 2-1). so there's some unlock condition there, my guess is just beating the mode but idk for sure||

[novel fog]

if you want to be technical, the ||Magolor Room in Epilogue|| could technically count as one too lol ||(you get 86 Combo for using Magolor Cannon on it at least)||

[brave crag]

||I figured it was going to the upper left corner that opened it.||

[fathom cradle]

oh is that what that was

i thought that just ||made a couple magic points appear||

[brave crag]

||Because like 3 magic points spawn when you go there and I was like "That can't be it".||

[fathom cradle]

lmao yea i thought it was weird

[brave crag]

||YEAH, BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE WAY TOO LITTLE.||

[fathom cradle]

no i get you

[brave crag]

So I feel like it might be related.

[tired bough]

Wait for extra mode I have to collect another 120 spheres

[lofty viper]

is the room you're describing an all-clear thing?

[fathom cradle]

||you reach it automatically if you do the extra stage after clearing the mode||

[novel fog]

yeah

[lofty viper]

i see ty

[fathom cradle]

funny hal with the ||86||

[misty onyx]

does anyone know yet which masks affect gameplay? like kines mask giving stronger water gun

[tired bough]

I don’t get it

[fathom cradle]

you also get ||860 points as a first clear bonus after doing the hal room||

[fathom cradle]

we don't know of any other effects. mine also has the water gun. but that's it for now

it would be

[novel fog]

mentioning ||86, final upgrade for Trickery costs 5586 ('Go Go HAL')||

[fathom cradle]

REALLY weird if those were the only two masks with some sort of additional functionality

but haven't seen any

[novel fog]

there might be, but they likely aren't obvious

[misty onyx]

right i was expecting someone to have figured out if there were mor by now

[fathom cradle]

wdym?

[fathom cradle]

i mean that ||you'll see the room with magolor's name as long as you beat the extra epilogue stage||

[misty onyx]

imagine a mask that increases damage 0_0

[novel fog]

||oh really, nice, wonder if there's any other cool number stuff||

[lean grotto]

HAVE A CONSISTENT WELL DESIGNED LORE TIMELINE I BEG

I PLEAD

[fathom cradle]

what you and i listed is all that i remember at least

in epilogue

[fathom cradle]

i'm guessing even if there are more effects they probably won't be that important?

[leaden terrace]

||Magolor soul being canon makes sense tho? It leads to epilogue the to clash, and presumably he eventually comes right back to main universe||

[fathom cradle]

bc you can bring masks into the arenas but it doesn't mark your run like the souvenir items or amiibos do

[leaden terrace]

They retrace back to the most important part

And make it that it makes sense

[fathom cradle]

the enhanced water gun for kine/mine doesn't matter in arenas after all

[leaden terrace]

||Plus Magolor soul being canon doesn't rly change a lot||

[lean grotto]

||FYM SOUL AINT CANON WHAT||

WHERE WAS RHIS STATED

[leaden terrace]

Idk it seems like they're changing their mind on a few things lol

[novel fog]

||well Epilogue one depicts Extra's at least, but yeah it makes sense, the clothes give similar vibe to Soul too||

[leaden terrace]

||Btw souls are generally seen as what if scenarios||

[novel fog]

I mean, it was never stated to be noncanon so

[leaden terrace]

Yeah that is true

[lean grotto]

||Istg does this mean eggpilogue is non canon ||

I will

[leaden terrace]

But for a while I think we accepted that they were all non canon

[fathom cradle]

i doubt that

[novel fog]

||note novel from last year used Soul as well lol, probably knew||

[lean grotto]

I will Do evil criminally apprehendable things

[fathom cradle]

i mean tbh there's no reason that ||soul can't be canon||

[leaden terrace]

What no??? Lol

[misty onyx]

true that might actually break the arena meta

[fathom cradle]

it's definitely a funny choice since you can move immediately into epilogue from story and the game even encourages you to do so

[novel fog]

||no, it is canon||

[leaden terrace]

They're making what's believed to NOT be canon canon

[fathom cradle]

but in most respects the intended route SEEMS to be story mode -> extra mode -> magolor epilogue

[lean grotto]

||I F SOUL IS NON CANON BUT ACTUALLY IS AND EGGPILOGUE SHOWS WXTRA MODE AND ||

[fathom cradle]

like all the epilogue tracks are after the ones in story and extra mode

in jukebox

[leaden terrace]

They begged you

[lean grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/ren-and-stimpy-ren-stimpy-ren-stimpy-fire-gif-25821015

[lofty condor]

||Yeah honestly I feel like the Soul version of the second form was the canon fight lol||

[fathom cradle]

and ||the extra mode bosses are mostly before the epilogue ones in true arena||

[lean grotto]

Why can’t Kirby lore just make up its mind

[leaden terrace]

It did

[lean grotto]

[novel fog]

||true, hell technically everything thought to have been a what-if can be considered canon in a way now, just in a 'parallel' (and not in main world)||

[leaden terrace]

Tho I'd say we are seeing some significant changes this game

I believe Kumazaki has an interesting plan going on

[novel fog]

yeah, want to see what they do with ||parallels||

[leaden terrace]

Yeah it'd be fun

[lean grotto]

Hoping we actually get to see this plan in under the next 5 games lmao

/j

[glossy mortar]

ok chat i'm back

[novel fog]

||interested to see more derivative ones other than Clash too (Dreamy Gear when?)||

[glossy mortar]

||they kind of have to make a new clash game don't they||

[leaden terrace]

||I think the most important thing is that they recontextualized Magolor as a character||

[main fractal]

Kirbys Adventure remake with Dedede prologue

[urban bluff]

watch gamers, ||they gonna use TDX to make Mass Attack canon (Sun Stones)||

[leaden terrace]

||it might change the majority of the fandoms views and depictions of him||

[fathom cradle]

kumazaki starts setting up the next set of games by ||including a shopkeeper taranza in the next spinoff||

[glossy mortar]

a dedede prologue would be so cool actually

[urban bluff]

oh and ||canvas curse canon too (Paintra)||

[leaden terrace]

Dhjdbfndjdj

[main fractal]

||The prologue makes Dream Course canon||

[lofty condor]

||I swear to god that stupid tree is gonna come back to life at some point and start messing up the kingdom lol||

[novel fog]

||and stuff like Master Crown too, and Clash and Gem Apples||

[leaden terrace]

That omg

Inforgot

I still remember laughing so hard at the credits

[novel fog]

||as long as Master Crown doesn't get to it, it'll be fine||

[glossy mortar]

honestly there's no reason dream course can't be canon. like, all it establishes lore-wise is that kirby has canonically played golf with his good friend keeby. this contradicts nothing

[leaden terrace]

||Cus we literally like called EVERYTHING||

[main fractal]

What do ||sin stones have to do with Mass attack?||

[leaden terrace]

And that's just more fun rly

[urban bluff]

it's implied that ||necrodeus made them||

[glossy mortar]

||I WAS SO. "I KNEW IT".||

[nocturne summit]

||morphos body is no longer a sausage God bless||

[main fractal]

Where?

[leaden terrace]

Back to what it used to be

[urban bluff]

||make him bastard, irredeemable and will never change his way 🤝 make him fan favorite
hal when developing magolor's personality||

[leaden terrace]

TRUEEER

[lofty viper]

this is true

[nocturne summit]

Wait when

[main fractal]

Whem

[lilac osprey]

time to start magolor’s superhell adventure

[fathom cradle]

oh that is the unlock method?? nice

[urban bluff]

I forgot where but I think sth sth ||necrodeus turn sunlight into stones to so he can cover the world in darkness or sth||

[austere willow]

or maybe thats not ||morpho|| at all

[fathom cradle]

wow good thing i just happened to go there lmfao

[main fractal]

Actually yeah now that I think about it a Dedede prologue for adventure would legit be badass

[leaden terrace]

CLAY??? SO IM NOT?? THE ONLY ONE????? Jk idk what I'm saying lol

[novel fog]

it isn't though

[main fractal]

Set like 2 minutes after Dream Land 1

[leaden terrace]

What I did think is prob vastly.different anywayd

[urban bluff]

... did I get baited by mistranslation again

:diesofcringe:

[leaden terrace]

||It's either Morpho taking on the form similar to the butterflies or Morpho's the odd one out||

Fuck u phone DIE

[novel fog]

they only said the one who made the Sun Stones is not good with the sun, and lot of other stuff implies Sectonia (like the fact that they are gems lol)

[austere willow]

its just speculation because of the description of the person who made them

[brave crag]

It's not even mistranslation, someone just put on the Fandom Kirby Wiki that Necrodeus probably made the sun stones and a ton of people just went with it.

[leaden terrace]

LOL fandom

[main fractal]

Funny Kirby wiki moment

[novel fog]

it was a Mass Attack-obsessed admin, in particular lmao

[urban bluff]

I am but a chain in the spread of misinformation

[hollow rain]

The new bosses are so cool.

[main fractal]

Imagine being the number 1 Mass Attack fan

[hollow rain]

All of them.

[main fractal]

Can't let anyone forget Mass Attack so I must spread misinformation quickly

[urban bluff]

god I hate electricky dooter. why can't he kiss hydriath in canon

[novel fog]

note the appearance of the jewel too, when the only gem Necrodeus has been associated with at all is round and not like that

[leaden terrace]

We make ship art in retaliation

I'm too sick to do any like that rn but I would love to

[main fractal]

Hal really let us down in that regard 😔

Actually ruins the game

[hollow rain]

I think part of what made the devs make some of the bosses so difficult (besides clearly just being a harder campaign in general) is that if anyone who's less experienced with platformers gets stuck, they could just grind for better upgrades.

[glossy mortar]

i;m so not normal about this FUCKING EPILOGUE.......

[hollow rain]

Like it too much?

[leaden terrace]

Me neither

[glossy mortar]

yeah.....

[hollow rain]

Bruh it's the Kirby discord.

[glossy mortar]

waaa

[leaden terrace]

Exactly and that's why none of us are normal!!!

[hollow rain]

A lot of people here like it "too much".

[glossy mortar]

it's gonna be the magolor discord for the next few months as far as i can tell

[leaden terrace]

UEAH

[slender compass]

what are the ||songs played for each character when fighting Galacta Knight as B D, King D, and MK||

[hollow rain]

If Discord existed in 2011 be like (actually did it? I genuinely don't know).

[urban bluff]

apparently it's the same for all 3, disappointingly

[leaden terrace]

I still haven't heard what plays for BWD

[main fractal]

I didn't||bother finishing true arena wih Meta Knight||

[leaden terrace]

Huh whaatt

WHATNNO

[urban bluff]

||crescent masked first phase and robobot galacta 2nd phase||

[hollow rain]

Anyway, gtg. Have to beat Extra Mode for some reason.

[austere willow]

did you do a no-upgrade run too

[hollow rain]

No. I could, but not for my first playthrough lol. Wanted to mess around with them first.

Can I remove upgrades? I don't think I can but if I could that would be nice.

[leaden terrace]

Cya

[urban bluff]

some boss seems brutal without extended floating time

[leaden terrace]

Prob not

[austere willow]

||when Fiery Pyrbbit locks the 1 ability that could substitute for floating and theyre the boss that requires the most floating||

[glossy mortar]

||wow they added subtle voices in the background of the magolor soul CROWNED remix that of which i don't remember where it initially came from. if that was there before i sure as fuck didnt notice||

[leaden terrace]

Star allies

[fathom cradle]

||the voices are def new||

[glossy mortar]

thats what i thought but i wasnt sure

[main fractal]

I called it

[novel fog]

||yeah, definitely has an otherworldly feel to it now too in places (idk how exactly to describe it)||

[fathom cradle]

||it's a neat effect but it does make it a little more hard to listen to lol||

[glossy mortar]

||THE VOICES ARE SO WEIRD. its almost like he's crying for help but according to the flavor text he regrets very little||

[main fractal]

I knew that ||Sallies Magolor crowned would be there somewhere||

[urban bluff]

||I get that the voice are supposed to be like magolor screaming for help but I can't stop imagine it as high pitched ando||

[glossy mortar]

HAL IS SO MEAN TO THIS FUCKING EGG

[fathom cradle]

also ||the sound effects on the lasers that spew fire from the ground|| are actually wild

||tinnitus simulator||

[urban bluff]

oh yeh

[main fractal]

||could be the crown influencing what he says or him trying to brush off his pain idk||

[urban bluff]

the sonic boom

[slender compass]

I wonder was ||Magolor essentially meant to be Zero Cubed?||

[urban bluff]

honestly I love when strong attack has sonic boom effect

[leaden terrace]

||I was thinking he just doesn't want to die and only begged Kirby to free him (not save him)||

[glossy mortar]

||that's not uncharacteristic of him actually||

[leaden terrace]

||Plus he never thanked Kirby didn't he?||

[lofty condor]

Lol I’m listening to that right now

||The added choir is really good||

[glossy mortar]

see and i will never be over this. during the first half of his first phase he doesn't take the fight seriously, but at the halfway point he genuinely gets nervous and actually starts putting effort into fighting kirby, putting out all defenses possible as a last-ditch effort to not fucking die

[leaden terrace]

||Only 'apologize'||

[main fractal]

||He says he appreciated Kirby getting all the parta||

[leaden terrace]

Well for saving him I mean

[main fractal]

Or do you mean ||freeing him from funny possession||

[vale river]

(he does)

[ruby plaza]

Me when no there are no cookies in Cookie Country

[glossy mortar]

yeah he does but the desperation is incredibly sad

he's like wait. Wait hold on I was being silly please don't kill me??

[leaden terrace]

Napoli juve aperol

[main fractal]

||Only point in time he would have been able to was after getting freed, which he instantly got sent to hell||

[leaden terrace]

Lol

[glossy mortar]

why is HAL so mean to magolor

[leaden terrace]

||Left to his own time to be an asshole again||

[ruby plaza]

When we gonna see Marx redemption arc?

[fathom cradle]

there is one ||max upgrade quote that's a little sad lol||

[main fractal]

||Magolors eyes completely disappear in the 2nd phase so I presume the crown has completely taken over by then, he gives Kirby an apple as food right before it happens||

[glossy mortar]

||let's have him Die! then have his corpse get puppeted by an evil force! then have him be sent to Superhell! then have him fight manifestations of his demons! then||

[fathom cradle]

||he comments on how he'll run around with his friends but it trails off with ellipses||

[leaden terrace]

WHAT TELL

[ruby plaza]

This one?

[leaden terrace]

Aw

[fathom cradle]

nah the ||surge one||

[ruby plaza]

Lemme grab it

[glossy mortar]

wait which ||surge one||

[lofty condor]

He’s so petty lol

[leaden terrace]

Awww

[vale river]

wait what is this game's font

I just noticed it's different

[fathom cradle]

||the dialogue for max upgraded surge||

[nocturne summit]

The shield one is cute too until it isn't LOL

[glossy mortar]

||huh. i dont think i maxed it out||

[fathom cradle]

crispy said he was gonna grab it so i'll just let him post it

[glossy mortar]

wait which one

[fathom cradle]

ok wait no it's not that one

uhhh

[main fractal]

The what

[fathom cradle]

ahhh ok

[nocturne summit]

Guard

Shield

[glossy mortar]

grinds my brain gears excessively and comes up with nothing

[nocturne summit]

Defined

Defend

Whatever it's called

[glossy mortar]

he has a lot of guard dialogues bro

[fathom cradle]

it's the ||max upgraded levitation|| that's the one that ||talks about him with friends||

[ruby plaza]

Here

[glossy mortar]

oh my god

[fathom cradle]

i'm sorry lol i got the wrong one

[glossy mortar]

that's so sad

[lofty condor]

???);7:$:8939????

[fathom cradle]

most of them are him thinking about ||how powerful and scary he'll be again||

[urban bluff]

my favorite is his flight one

[glossy mortar]

||"i'm tagging a laugh on the end of this to make it seem as if i find it entertaining, but truthfully i've been horribly negatively affected by these experiences" core||

[fathom cradle]

i thought this one was a little sad though

[urban bluff]

like ||dude already in hell paying for his sin and he still want to take over floralia???||

[ruby plaza]

Lemme grab all of them

[urban bluff]

wait

wait am I dumb

[fathom cradle]

that one is the upwards magic sphere one

[glossy mortar]

FUCK

[urban bluff]

oh yeah that

[glossy mortar]

thats so :((

[lofty condor]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-bird-sad-gif-21136900

[urban bluff]

||dude think he can just fire a blast upward and knock down an entire kingdom???||

[vale river]

you don't understand

[glossy mortar]

let him dream

[vale river]

||it goes like. really really far||

||like really far||

[novel fog]

JP equivalent is this if anyone wants

[tepid pivot]

honestly I'm really happy that he made friends with kirby in the end , or at least made amends with him

[leaden terrace]

Magolors such an asshole but he's also such a lonely asshole 😭

[lofty viper]

does Mecha's crouch actually have some sort of special property

[leaden terrace]

No wonder he loves to rely on others even if it's for selfish purposes

[vale river]

springlock failure

[fathom cradle]

||it lets you use faster blasters||

uhh

[glossy mortar]

||at the very least they are business partners||

[fathom cradle]

idk beyond that if you're looking for something else

[vale river]

it's not like Camoflage no

[novel fog]

||is pretty similar, 'can fly through the skies with friends forever' or something like that||

[lofty viper]

idk but it's in the movelist on its own

[urban bluff]

I think crouch let you do a counter if you press b right as you being attacked

[vale river]

I know guarding does that

[leaden terrace]

||I like to think he calls it a truce||

[urban bluff]

it could have been guard and I forgor

[fathom cradle]

that's not unique to crouch

[ruby plaza]

Poor magolor

[glossy mortar]

absolutely

[fathom cradle]

i think it's literally just there so that they can reference it in the controls for faster blasters?

although you could just say "while crouching"

[leaden terrace]

SJDNFNDNDB

[glossy mortar]

||"everything i care about" when the shield purely covers himself||

[novel fog]

JP one, ||basically seems to be 'Can I protect everyone with this?'||

[glossy mortar]

||mago "i fear death" lor||

[leaden terrace]

||Himself meaning he carries the valuable gem apples with him!!||

[urban bluff]

you know

[lofty condor]

||Someone send this sad sack to Equestria cause he needs some friends lmao||

[fathom cradle]

this gets more interesting when you consider the new dialogue that he also was on halcandra by himself for a really long time

[leaden terrace]

I hate him but I also care him

[glossy mortar]

perks up with curiosity

elaborate

[vale river]

I don't think he's redeemed guys

[glossy mortar]

god i just love him so much

[glossy mortar]

canon

[fathom cradle]

there's new dialogue in extra mode with 120 spheres that has a lot of info

[lofty condor]

Burn

[fathom cradle]

https://vxtwitter.com/KingProclaimed/status/1629423293165076483

[leaden terrace]

||Magolor... My mom just became abit more sensitive about her weight... Please be more respectful 😊 /j||

[ruby plaza]

I've said this before, but it's interesting how ||the Gem Apples from that Team Kirby Clash Deluxe is the main "collectable" in Magolor's Epilogue||

[leaden terrace]

Yeah

[fathom cradle]

lmao

[glossy mortar]

this is simultaneously so funny, so sad, and so weird

[main fractal]

||The entire forest when Magolor wields a chainsaw||

[glossy mortar]

||"no matter where we end up, let's stay friends!"||

[main fractal]

I feel sad for egg

[leaden terrace]

||the fact that he had to say "...OK?"||

[novel fog]

another JP equivalent, ||not sure if this is similar to English at all??||

[glossy mortar]

hal is given a kid and goes "holy shit we can fit so much trauma and social ineptness into this thing"

[main fractal]

6 of them!

Hell yeah

[vale river]

I don't know what the devs intended us to conclude about the specifics of the ||origins of the Gem Apple Tree and Gem Apples, but once I beat the mode I was naturally led to conclude that the Gem Apples provide some sort of power to cross dimensions, which is why Magolor collects a bunch. Did you notice how the collectibles in Magolor Epilogue had the same colors as fragments from Clash? fire, light, water, rare? Maybe not an intentional reference but I like to think that he sells items he "finds" to gain power to cross dimensions||

[leaden terrace]

||I like to think it's really just susie||

[novel fog]

||seems moreso he's saying it would be nice to ボッコボコ (beat up relentlessly) someone (well, specifically uses the word アイツ if that makes a difference) with this?||

[vale river]

||but then again, he also gets the Lor back somewhere in-between Clash and Star Allies (assuming that's the real magolor! lmao!) so he could also just use that. food for thought!||

[fathom cradle]

||the lor pulling up into magoland like "yeah we homies now"||

[vale river]

oh right, magoland also takes place in the future

wherein the lor is chilling

[glossy mortar]

very distant future. the boy finally got his wish

[urban bluff]

||notice how magolor only have 1 friend ability in SA and it is only when lor is involved||

[vale river]

"finally" TIMMY THIS IS YOUR THIRD AMUSEMENT PARK THEMED AFTER YOURSELF TO APOLOGIZE TO KIRBY

[ruby plaza]

IIRC, didn't the crown somewhat corrupt magolor?

[glossy mortar]

WWAIT. WAIT SHIT YOURE RIGHT

[leaden terrace]

Jfc Magolor...

[glossy mortar]

well he sure did retain a lot of its power. that is canon

[vale river]

according to final boss pause screen of ME, ||the crown strengthens both the user AND their negativity. It goes both ways||

[glossy mortar]

so yes!

[vale river]

||so yeah by using the crown he actively became more evil than he was before, which was already pretty evil||

[urban bluff]

I think it's kinda implied in ||his moveset and master crown boss that half the moveset used in his fight are actually his true power||

[vale river]

||it's also retroactively explaining why Landia is immediately hostile with Kirby and friends, because even though it's a noble and good dragon its negativity was enhanced as well||

[glossy mortar]

||i figured that was power he retained from the master crown||

[urban bluff]

||like, any move that use a magic circle is magolor's, any move that use a star portal(not the black hole since it starts as a magic circle) is master crown's||

[leaden terrace]

Dream collection shows it well too

Iirc

[urban bluff]

||the ball blasts are also magolor exclusively, since master crown never use it once||

[leaden terrace]

He's very talented

[urban bluff]

oh actually

[glossy mortar]

i like to think that his magic without the master crown is comically harmless

it probably isn't but its a funny thought

[urban bluff]

||helper magolor IN this game use that magic circle too, so he definitely has magic before crown||

[main fractal]

He's lazy

[glossy mortar]

he's a support guy

[leaden terrace]

We already know he's pretty powerful just not fitted to be a singular force

[glossy mortar]

||even with upgraded powers in epilogue his dps is BAD||

[leaden terrace]

||The fact that his fireballs are weak but he can just easily use a beam and black holes ..||

[urban bluff]

||sth sth gem apple powers him up and give him back his old color and OP moveset present in star allies||

[leaden terrace]

Maybe it's just him

[vale river]

⬇️ ⬆️ ➕ 🇧 = Toy Hammer

[leaden terrace]

Honestly why wouldn't he

The dude FLOATS

[slender compass]

still funny ||Magolor likes looking into the Ancients and may be a descendant and uses magic but the Ancients were implied to be science nerds who kicked out the Jamba men for using dark magic (implied to be partly out of zealotry)||

[glossy mortar]

||he's probably a force to be reckoned with when he has more chaotic magic, but he doesn't by default||

||"TAKE THIS" throws a puny fireball at you||

[leaden terrace]

He just needs more time 😌

[urban bluff]

oh yeah he definitely also ||has atleast teleportation before crown. if you activate double stamina helper magolor while inside his ship, he will teleport to the foreground, give you the stamina potion, then teleport back to the pc||

[glossy mortar]

this guy strains himself trying to levitate for longer than a few seconds he needs to exercise more

[main fractal]

He was beaten to death

[glossy mortar]

that is fair

[main fractal]

Magolor goes through a healthy dose of trauma but ||it pays off. He fulfils his heroic goal of making the universes best theme park or whatever||

[glossy mortar]

it is all he ever wanted.........

[lofty viper]

why do i feel like, if your combo just concludes before you enter a door, you lose all the points

like the points haven't reached mago yet and they don't chime

[glossy mortar]

sounds like an oversight to me

[urban bluff]

sounds like skill issue to me

jk

[lofty viper]

i guess i should verify but i's just a feeling i get

that's true, most issues are skill issues

[main fractal]

Pretty sure you get the points

I wasn't very observant though

[leaden terrace]

You do iirc

[near kraken]

God I'm so happy I'm playing this game again

[lofty viper]

i guess just always wait before door

[near kraken]

I used to have it on the Wii as a kid, so I'm pretty happy :)

[leaden terrace]

WAIT I KEAN

You did get the points

[lofty viper]

oh opposite

heck yeah

[leaden terrace]

I watched meteorz and he asked the exact same question

And good number of people in chat said yes

[slender compass]

now I want to know fans' ideas ||for super ability counterparts of all abilities in RTDL||

[leaden terrace]

That'll take a little time to imagine

[plain hound]

okay so

can someone help me??

[plain hound]

i have got 100% yet i am missing "Track 189"

does anyone know how to get it?

[thin prairie]

prob missing hal room

[fathom cradle]

it is the hal room

there's a hal room in epilogue

[plain hound]

ohh thank you!!

[thin prairie]

there is

[vague tide]

Here for the last mask

[fathom cradle]

yeah so i got it after beating true arena

i'm not sure if you need 100% on the other modes or not

but at least beat everything in main mode first

[vague tide]

I think im missing the ||epilogue bonus stage|| then

Because I beat all the other stages and true arena

[fathom cradle]

try that first then

[urban bluff]

oh good luck

||that stage is long, but not hard||

[lofty viper]

what's the strat for keeping a combo going against ||fishy monkey||

[vague tide]

I saw a video about that one, yeah its pretty long

[plain hound]

ookay found it thanks!!

[austere willow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VvdL2Fgb6M

[leaden terrace]

Magolor crying :(

[fathom cradle]

i just did surge spam as usual

throw in a couple magic spheres while he's bouncing around

the boss platinums are a little strict but they don't require you to keep a perfect combo for any of them

[lofty viper]

man

[fathom cradle]

tbh surge is so good a lot of the other options don't really matter lol

just speaking from an efficiency standpoint

[remote leaf]

I’m worried Dedede is secretly bald- https://twitter.com/dededaio/status/1629526944147558400?s=46&t=4gGqi77Hh7GivvbwLjvgiw

Klu 🐧 (@Dededaio)

h-help. 😳

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[leaden terrace]

Good thing I have a thing for bald men too!

[urban beacon]

Grinding minigames for food

So boring

I wish there was more minigames

[urban bluff]

if dedede has fur on his head he's technically never bald

[lofty viper]

||is last stage of magologue ranked||

[fathom cradle]

||the bonus one or the final boss||

||the former is, the latter isn't||

[lofty viper]

ty i meant latter

[urban beacon]

Gonna aim for 20 maxim tomatos before the arena

Then 35 for true arena

Overkill but i suck

[hollow rain]

Can someone stream some RtDD while I play Extra Mode? It's honestly kind of boring because I already be Magalor's Epilogue and I want the Truest Arena. Just for chatting and the extra entertainment.

Actually, the stream isn't needed.

Anyone wanna chat?

[slender compass]

I wished the Miniboss massacre sequence in Dangerous Dinner 3 had the mini bosses suffer the same fate normal enemies receive

Where they crash into the screen

[thin prairie]

I’m kinda crazy

[rustic trellis]

Man just pressed a and prayed

And i can respect that

[violet cloak]

Sooooo, I just beat Magolor Epilogue today and uh...gotta say I DID NOT expect that ending.

[thin prairie]

You know me so well

[thin prairie]

Same tbh

||Giant tree||

||And super Kirby clash||

||And micro magalor||

Short for

||Micro transactions magalor||

[neat path]

||Fuckin Whispy didn't appear anywhere else in the epilogue, and he made up for it in spades at the end! Well, kinda, lol.||

[leaden terrace]

||spoiler them pls||

In case if u don't know how to spoiler, put || at each end of ur messages

[thin prairie]

Isn’t this the spoiler channel?

[leaden terrace]

Yeah but they pop up in search

So it's best to be safe and not spoil anybody

[neat path]

Yes, but there are still things people even here don't want to be spoiled on

[signal elm]

||So that’s why magolor has them apples in star allies||

[thin prairie]

Fine

[leaden terrace]

That too

[thin prairie]

SPOILER!!!!!!!!

[signal elm]

$&@! &$@! Sorry

[leaden terrace]

Lol it's ok

[neat path]

Also, I just beat the True Arena. ||Wasn't expecting that amped up Magolor Soul at the end at all!||

[leaden terrace]

Just be sure to do it

[signal elm]

I mean you won’t get it unless you know what I’m referring to

[thin prairie]

||Magalor soul is normally amped up, wachu mean||

[violet cloak]

||Yeah when the Master Crown possessed the Gem Apple Tree and basically became the Tree of Knowledge from the god damn bible...couldn't have POSSIBLY predicted all that.||

[neat path]

||You must not've beaten the True Arena then.||

[leaden terrace]

If u rly wanna know, it's true arena spoilers ||he has a new phase||

[thin prairie]

I’m on ex halcandra rn

[neat path]

Then get to it!

[thin prairie]

I’ve 100% up to this point

But I can just go back

I’ll do it

[signal elm]

||Then you quick time his ass ||

[neat path]

Well you need to beat EX mode to get the True Arena.

[thin prairie]

I know

[signal elm]

Yay

Can’t wait to spend 5 hours of my life

[neat path]

That was true of the original game, so I don't think it needs to be spoiled here.

[signal elm]

Doing that

[neat path]

Lol

[signal elm]

Even though I did that yesterday

[neat path]

C'mon, you know you enjoy it :3

[thin prairie]

I gotta go pee rq

Then I’ll get to it

[neat path]

👍

[signal elm]

5 hours of the same thing

I did yesterday

[neat path]

Yup!

You can do it!

[vague tide]

How do I get track 189 and 199 in jukebox?

[novel fog]

||I believe 189 is HAL Room in Epilogue, 199 is for completing all 120 Magoland missions||

[wintry turtle]

oh

|| theres more missions after 100? ||

great

[red patrol]

||question, no spoilers, but is it worth it to gold or higher all magolor levels?||

[neat path]

||Yes. Apparently.||

[vague tide]

||Gold on all is required to unlock the bonus stage||

[red patrol]

||does the bonus stage have lore?||

[vague tide]

||which needs to be beaten to count towards 100%||

[wintry turtle]

just got 30 on level 3 egg catcher first try after reading the mission for it 💀

[urban bluff]

||it's not only needed to get 100%, you also unlocks 2 songs from it||

or 1? probably one

[red patrol]

||is there a boss fight in the bonus stage? Or new info?||

[urban bluff]

nope

[red patrol]

dang

[vague tide]

Ok what the hell is that ||next to last true extra mission||

[urban bluff]

it's just ||remix of 6 AD section in the main mode, with distant traveler from dream collection playing in the first 3, and crowned drum dash playing in the latter 3||

[red patrol]

So its just for a challenge?

[novel fog]

||Interdimensional Traveler (or whatever they named it in English) and DDDD CROWNED right?||

[urban bluff]

y

eah

[fathom cradle]

🇾

[red patrol]

okay then im not going for that

[urban bluff]

king stop making fun of me and get your pikachu

😡

[fathom cradle]

Lol I still haven't booted up scarlet

[red patrol]

If its just a challenge with no reward then i dont really see the point aside from 100%ing

[urban bluff]

well, it's kinda satisfying

[vague tide]

You get an ||86||

[novel fog]

also a jingle I guess

[urban bluff]

and also ||I kinda like to think that EX stage is after the boss, where magolor enters the portal and is now running to find an exit from AD||

[worldly burrow]

do you have the smaller health limit in the true arena

[fathom cradle]

No

[worldly burrow]

thank god

i hate how extra mode has both harder enemies and less health

[urban bluff]

k now that the game is out long enough

[worldly burrow]

its been 1 day

[urban bluff]

(lol literally not even 2 days)

[vital pasture]

Finally beat the true arena without mark of shame

(Without souvenir)

[vague tide]

My playtime is 47 hours lmao

[ruby plaza]

Why is it so hard to get Platinum on Magolor Epilouge 3-BOSS

[clever harness]

Oh,|| does RTDL Deluxe have EX Stages?||

[ruby plaza]

Poggers got 1612 somehow

[stuck sonnet]

||Just killed a tree [not Whispy] 👍 ||

[urban bluff]

😭 NOOOO, not ||Yggy Woods||

[wise roost]

Does Magolor say anything new in extra mode? I just got all 120 in main mode and don’t want to do it again

[fathom cradle]

Yes

[odd rover]

Alright

Just started Magolor Epilogue

First of all the intro goes hard

Second, it’s weird how ||it shows Magolor Soul being defeated||

[junior mesa]

||makes more sense if you read the novel||

[odd rover]

||what happened there?||

[junior mesa]

||Magolor Soul is final phase magolor instead of the normal version there
basically just implies that Magolor Soul is the canon and that main mode's form isn't (for some reason)||

[night ginkgo]

Just had a question about a spoiler related thing ||does Magolor Soul have a new move set? I just watched a YouTube video and his first attack was completely different than what I remember it being||

[odd rover]

||I accept that because Magolor Soul’s design goes harder||

[novel fog]

||likely powered up (and became EX) in canon fight||

||in novel, it's EX too isn't it? don't remember||

[novel fog]

||he has new fight in True Arena||

[ruby plaza]

||Just realizing the final Magolor Epilogue level is just the all of the Doomer levels back to back from the main campaign||

[night ginkgo]

||Oh cool||

[junior mesa]

||Not that I'm aware of, no||

||doesn't look EX to me + used Monster Flame & Flare Beam instead of Snow Bowl & Grand Hammer||

||but afterwards is Soul, so
at minimum Soul is (probably) canon||

[novel fog]

||oh weird||

[leaden terrace]

how does magolor soul design go so baller

like that gotta be one of the most unique enemy design

[urban bluff]

k so question

[leaden terrace]

UGHHH ITS SO BEAUTIFUL IN HD

[urban bluff]

so who named the masks in magoland?

asking because ||Old Friend||

[leaden terrace]

probably magolor

[novel fog]

||anyway, would make most sense if canonically Magolor became EX before fight, but we'll see if they say for sure in the future||

[novel fog]

Magolor likely lol

[leaden terrace]

||magolor has a streak of making fun of taranza in malicious ways||

[urban bluff]

yeah, magolor is the likely one, which make ||old friend|| a very interesting choice of word

[novel fog]

||it is basically 'Friend of Past Days' in Japanese iirc||

||ありし日の友 is it in Japanese yeah||

[junior mesa]

||I'm not sure if they're really given names in-universe
dunno if the mask names necessarily correlates to magolor knowing lore
might be looking too deep into it||

[novel fog]

||note ありし日 can mean 'while still alive' too||

[junior mesa]

||that's a
sad title||

[novel fog]

||I mean he can go wherever he wants, and it is funny to imagine he just knows everything lol||

[novel fog]

yeah for sure

[leaden terrace]

okay thats a low blow

[junior mesa]

||yeah, i just
have to wonder how deep it's really meant to be lol||

[urban bluff]

||has any blow to taranza ever not low||

[leaden terrace]

...

youre right

[novel fog]

||but yeah the two definitions of ありし日 are 'days gone by; before; long ago' and 'when the dead person was alive'||

[ruby plaza]

||Now I'm confused, why is Magolor now Green here? Obviously it's the colors from Team Kirby Clash Deluxe||

[novel fog]

||didn't you see ending?||

[ruby plaza]

Idk, did I?

[novel fog]

||he went to Clash world||

[ruby plaza]

||So is Clash canon then?||

[leaden terrace]

...

yes

[ruby plaza]

I didn't know

[novel fog]

||yeah, it is in its own 'parallel' (basically seems to be other worlds that parallel the main one with stuff)||

[leaden terrace]

BTW I STILL cant believe that they ||made it that Kirby do the original poses in the final boss.|| Still absolutely wild

its literally the only thing i actually wanted from the remake

and they did it

[red patrol]

Btw, has anyone been able to ||extract magolor’s cries from the music in the new phase 2 of the true arena magolor soul?||

||i heard you could actually hear his voice in the music and i checked and sure enough||

[novel fog]

||it is in song itself||

[red patrol]

||i just want to hear it a bit clearer||

[leaden terrace]

this made me realize it has only been 3 days technically since the release. what a fucking 3 days only shit.

[novel fog]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DfFYVmL2sI||

[leaden terrace]

the obsession is REAL

[neat path]

Magolor Epilogue spoiler kinda

[zinc dirge]

just finished magolor epilogue and OOHH MY GODDD

[wintry turtle]

Do I need plat on all ability challenges for true 100%?

[lime acorn]

LMAO

[red patrol]

That one is so much clearer than the one i found, thanks!

[fathom cradle]

No

[lilac osprey]

My drip has been restored

and misdeeds atoned for yadda yadda etc etc

[marble jungle]

Could Magolor's arc basically be interpreted as...?
||1. Coward, bully, cad and thief wants to get treasures and be filthy rich
2. Goes to the fascinating Halcandra, finds Master Crown, turns evil
3. One of owo possible scenarios play out

4A. Gets rekt while Crown gets shattered
5A. Floats into some weird realm with Crown remnants
6A. Fights Crown's physical manifestation, atones for his sin
7A. Leaves the realm, becomes a shopkeeper

4B. Gets rekt while Crown takes over his body
5B. Becomes sad egg shell, cries out to Kirby in pain and in vain, no use
6B. Dies||

[rustic trellis]

Im just gonna believe that [TRUE ARENA SPOILERS] ||True arena Magolor Soul is the canon fight, and that portal leads to Magolor Epilogue||

[junior mesa]

no

||magolor epilogue's intro doesn't show the TA portal||

||it shows the normal ending||

||TA Soul is probably just gonna be some weird vague interview shtick or answered in some future game or smthn
If it lead to Epilogue they would've had it as the intro imo||

[rustic trellis]

||Yeah, thats true, but disregarding the fact that ME had to show the main story ending because of spoilers, i think magolor being sucked into ME via portal makes more sense than just simply disappearing||

[leaden terrace]

||yea. even if true arena doesnt seem to be canon it seems like they were trynna build smth with him being pulled into the portal||

wait

true aena spoilers

[junior mesa]

||it didn't even show the main story ending though||

[leaden terrace]

just making sure

[junior mesa]

||Also if they wanted the timeline to be "goes into portal" instead of "disappears" why didn't they just change all of the animations||

[marble jungle]

||I'm probably not talking whether anything is "canon" or not; I take Meta Knightmare Returns as an alternate scenario too||

[junior mesa]

||instead of having the fading away thing anyways||

||plus in the ME intro he's white like how he was fading too||

[leaden terrace]

yeah but its still intriguing no

[rustic trellis]

||thats fair, i probably shouldnt of said canon and instead used the other c word: cool||

True Arena ||I still think the feelings magolor shared during the True Arena fight are most likely canon though||

[leaden terrace]

most likely

and numerous interpretations can be taken from this

[junior mesa]

||I mean, there's nothing to say whether he was Halcandran or a foreigner afaik
Either a big Ancients geek / fanboy or is a legitimate descendant
and the latter makes more sense given the Halcandran Dees & Mag's attire methinks.
He read about the Master Crown before finding it tbf as well.
the second scenario I don't get (?). Do you mean True Arena...?||

[leaden terrace]

most likely

[junior mesa]

probably
||at minimum his "that was super insulting kirby smh" thing was legit||

[rustic trellis]

I mean in EX mode ||he says he wasnt from Halcanda, so unless he was lying about lying||

[junior mesa]

||is this a new 120 spheres dialogue?||

[rustic trellis]

think so yeah

[junior mesa]

do you have the transcript or sc

[marble jungle]

||EX mode dialogue after all gears are taken: Magolor admits Halcandra is not really his homeland and he's kinda not impressed with the planet compared to the legend he's heard about||

[leaden terrace]

theres a vid

[rustic trellis]

i dont have it but i think the videos in the channel

[maiden crane]

heres one i found from awhile ago

[fathom cradle]

https://vxtwitter.com/KingProclaimed/status/1629423293165076483

[junior mesa]

interesting

[rustic trellis]

||Knowing how much magolor hates kirby before ME truly reflects his Super Kirby Clash prices...||

[leaden terrace]

||his hatred stretches beyond universes.||

[austere willow]

IM SORRY DID THEY GIVE SUPER ABILITY GRAND DOOMER EX NEW MOVES?

[lilac osprey]

||what if the entire remake was just an ad for Super Kirby Clash||

[fathom cradle]

What did you see?

[austere willow]

or was Grand Doomer EX always capable of doing the like

Sun-esque Burning attack

[burnt slate]

ya

[austere willow]

oh it was always capable

got it

[junior mesa]

in white wafers he also has dialogue about ||kirby being an "easy target"||
dunno if anyone's posted abt it yet tho

[novel fog]

||yeah, though I do wonder what actual meaning of the True Arena Magolor Soul death is, could definitely do a bit with it||

[leaden terrace]

yeah mukltiple times

[junior mesa]

oh, he has that same dialogue several places?

[fathom cradle]

https://twitter.com/KingProclaimed/status/1628989735229353984?s=20

SelfProclaimedKing (@KingProclaimed)

haha i love my loyal friend magolor #Kirby #KirbysReturntoDreamLandDeluxe #NintendoSwitch

Twitter · Feb 24, 2023, 5:26 AM

[leaden terrace]

no

we just talked about it multiple times lol

[fathom cradle]

It's after puffer

Iirc

[junior mesa]

yes it is

[novel fog]

yeah, Deadly Sun (though I think official name for Doomer EX's is something like Burning Attack or something else bland)

[leaden terrace]

just making sure, thats you?

[thin prairie]

Ok yea

[leaden terrace]

if so, wow, time really flies. lol

[thin prairie]

I just fought magalor soul

I do not remember him being that hard

[fathom cradle]

I swear I'm not just trying to plug my twitter

But yea

[marble jungle]

The way the scenario ||branches probably takes place around the time Magolor/Crown/Magolor Soul form gets destroyed. In Normal/EX, he's barely holding on, but after all that still reverts to his original body, starting Epilogue; In True Arena, he's complete dead (But I'm not sure if the dropped apple is supposed to mean he's been back from the Epilogue realm...)||

[novel fog]

note he (and normal Grand Doomer) also has Bound Pound (forget what his name for it is though) lol

[thin prairie]

Has anyone here beaten true arena yet?

[fathom cradle]

Yea I have

[lilac osprey]

is there an arena for the epilogue

[thin prairie]

Has magalor soul changed any, if so, don’t spoil any of his moves, slash (other forms)

[fathom cradle]

||epilogue bosses are in true arena||