[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

[thin prairie]

Guys I’m not even gonna lie

[novel fog]

||so does this make 7-2 the only stage in the game with 2 Super Abilities now||

[thin prairie]

The final boss of the magalor epilogue is fucking amazing

[fathom cradle]

||ig so unless you count the magolor fight||

lowkey kind of bothers me since ||you have one use of each across worlds 6 and 7 lol but still cool||

[thin prairie]

||ITS JUST I GIANT FUCKING TREE WITH THE MASTER CROWN AND WINGS||

[tawdry mulch]

finally finished ME and SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH GOD DAMN

[fathom cradle]

oh had you not seen the fight already

yea

[tawdry mulch]

||clash being canon can not kill the absolutely insane shit that just went down sheeeesh||

i only saw names luckily lol

theory brain going wild

||my crazy off the wall theory right now is that clash has some connection to Halcandra. right now im guessing that Clash is what Halcandra was like in its past which sounds crazy but i like the idea for now. At least gives something to clash.||

||answers a few questions about the world at least||

||really hoping they actually flesh out clash after this so i dont have to be annoyed by its existence lmfao||

[novel fog]

||no, just seems to be a 'parallel'||

[tawdry mulch]

me when theory

[faint galleon]

||We do see Halcandra in its past briefly though...being destroyed lol||

[novel fog]

||which I guess is like worlds that parallel the main one||

||and maybe have their own dimensions||

[tawdry mulch]

||yeah funny how we saw the past and then Magolor gets sent to some random place (the past perhaps🤔 )||

[novel fog]

||note Meta Knightmare Returns is also considered to be a 'parallel story'; idk if there's anything before this game that uses 'parallel' besides that and Clash-related stuff in interviews||

[tawdry mulch]

||just my theory for now until we see more clash stuff assuming theyre doing to actually do stuff with it now that they have fully leaned into it being the only canon dimension with counterparts|| ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[novel fog]

||and HR-D3's description in JP version says it crossed many dimensions and parallels, which implies there's others too||

||wonder if we'll see more parallels in the future (assuming other what-if stuff doesn't already count as that)||

[tawdry mulch]

||i think it would be pretty interesting that the ancients just abandoned ship from Pop Star's dimension to find a very similar one and then completely fucking ruin it beyond repair due to their own hubris||

||that Kirby couldnt help them lmfao rip bozo||

[thin prairie]

do you have to get gold in all challenge stages for the 100%

[pliant socket]

||kirby gcn parallel when||

[pliant socket]

No. You just need to clear it

[tawdry mulch]

|| Clash Dedede being one of the kings that had the crown ermmmm raw raw raw. or maybe hes the one who entrusted it to Landia||

[novel fog]

||considering the parallels thing is mentioned in HR-D3 description, maybe lmao||

[thin prairie]

thank you kind sir

[tawdry mulch]

speculation brain on fire it is too late at night for this

dont even know anything about ||Magolor Soul 2 lmaoo||

[heady relic]

another question
I saw PR version of Galacta's theme but where is it used?

[pliant socket]

We don't know yet.

[heady relic]

also the final boss theme from Fighters 2

[pliant socket]

Uhhhh I can't remember for the life of me if I heard it ingame

[heady relic]

could it be alternative themes if you play as dedede/meta knight in the true arena?

like how they did in star allies vs morpho?

[fathom flicker]

I did Magolor Epilogue

HOLY CRAP THAT WAS AMAZING

[pliant socket]

Maybe, I mean Blue Kirby was trying it before but I don't think they finished

[pliant socket]

Don't forget to spoil

[fathom flicker]

I know

||it's a freaking Redemption Arc for Magolor, and he slays the thing that caused him to lose his powers||

[heady relic]

I wonder if HAL was inspired to make this harder true arena thanks to those rtdl mods

[fathom flicker]

anything about extra mode that I should know

(and I know Galacta Knight is in True Area or whatever, idk)

the wildest part about the epilogue

||it's a PREQUEL to the Clash games||

[pliant socket]

||i mean considering that TA magolor soul literally has attacks from RoDL and the bg is literally the same as RoDL, probably, maybe, who knows||

[heady relic]

||boxboy & boxgirl: hold my beer||

[fathom flicker]

||so, the Clash games could be canon now thanks to this link||

||and that means, Galacta Knight is finally canon||

[pliant socket]

||yep||

[novel fog]

||likely for P1 Meta Knight in True Arena||

||the Fighters 2 Cresent Dedede and MK song plays for P1 Dedede supposedly||

anyway, ||in multiplayer the other Magolors just disappear for the sword clash phase of Master Crown, funny||

[vale river]

@fathom cradle holy crap actual Nruff jumpscare

[tired bough]

Guys help ||wheres the hidden magalor in magoland||

[heady relic]

||it's spawned every day in random locations I think?||

[tired bough]

Damn I didn’t know that thanks tho

[vale river]

I had three

[tired bough]

Does the hidden magalor look like magalor

[urban bluff]

yes, thankfully

also it's magolor

[tired bough]

Time to look

it’s like my 2nd to last challenge

[wintry turtle]

THEY REALLY WENT THERE WITH HR D3

HAHAHAHA

[novel fog]

||only just now noticed the sword isn't there in True Arena version of Master Crown fight, neat||

[urban bluff]

huh that's interesting

so does that make true arena canon or not

[novel fog]

doubt it

[austere willow]

IM SORRY WHEN YOU MAX OUT THE SKILLS MAGOLOR HAS ONE FINAL DIALOGUE ABOUT THE SKILL AND

||"So much power! I could use this attack and rule over a floating kingdom in the sky... if I wanted to, that is"||

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT

GRABS MAGOLOR BY THE COLLARS OF HIS CLOAK

WHAT DO U FUCKIN MEAN

[warm peak]

Mask spoiler

My partner is gonna flip out when they see this

[novel fog]

||which one is this, Levitation?||

||I remember one of them he said something about ruling land of the sky in JP version too||

[austere willow]

Upwards Magic Sphere

[novel fog]

ah, might have been that one

||oh right Levitation is the one about flying with friends||

[austere willow]

This is like

the most "Haha play as a villain" character Kirby has had

fr

[novel fog]

god I wish someone would post all the lines somewhere lol

[austere willow]

i can do it later

[novel fog]

it is hell trying to find videos with them

I mean I'd like JP too lol

and maybe non-absolute MAX stuff just incase
||there's also the new Extra Mode dialogue I want to see English version of||

[austere willow]

you can see all of the non-max stuff using the Details button

including a "Level 1"

[novel fog]

the actual dialogue?

[austere willow]

which doesnt show dialogue on the upgrade screen

y

ya

for example

[novel fog]

and the ones for maxing stuff out (not absolute-max) too?

[austere willow]

ya

[novel fog]

oh nice

wonder when someone will post video of it

[austere willow]

Level 1: Magic Bomb
Thank badness, I can still make bombs with my magic. They even wait before exploding!

Level 1: Levitation
Awww! I can't fly anymore? I can still glide a little bit, but... it's just not the same.

dialogue like that

and let me tell you

theyre a RIOT

I LOVE TO HATE THIS EGG

LITERALLY THE MOST BASTARD CHARACTER IN THE SERIES

[novel fog]

yeah they definitely made him hateable lol

[austere willow]

the health one is also

"I don't have a lot of health, so I'll have to be careful not to get hit. Maaan, losing powers is no fun..."

LIKE WHAT DO U M<EAN ITS NO FUN??? UVE DONE THIS BEFORE??? THATS THE EXTENT OF UR REPENTANCE???

[vocal latch]

I DID ALL MAGOLAND

[novel fog]

nice

[urban bluff]

not his first rodeo in purgatory

[tired moth]

||you have 20 more to do lol||

[vale river]

I'm absolutely not disagreeing with you but I do like how this mode opens it up for interpretation

Is he actually just a giggling little monster or is part of him genuinely terrified and he's coping

He certainly LOOKS scared a lot of the time

In other words, before this mode I would have said he was still a little liar, but in keeping with his SA description I think Kumazaki wants his true feelings to be a genuine mystery

Magolor Epilogue pushes him closer to that sort of coin flip interpretation in my eyes which is much appreciated

[urban bluff]

honestly, I love that magolor is not a trustable ally

but rather a morally questionable character

me when I realize I basically said the same thing at you with different words

glad we agreed

[cerulean spoke]

I'm here still.

[signal elm]

Beat it

[vale river]

I am very glad to know I wasn't overthinking it lol

Or maybe we both are

[austere willow]

im saying i LOVE to hate him

i love this direction of his character

hes not a cutesy friend hes a BITCH and a BASTARD A WIZARD AND A LIAR

fr

[fair oriole]

The epilogue stages have platinum medals or it only goes up to gold?

[vale river]

He's somehow even less redeemable and yet actively was redeemed

[austere willow]

it tells you to aim for Platinum when you start lol

[urban bluff]

so true

yeah there's platinum medals lol

good luck, you gonna need some combos

[austere willow]

or upgrades

[fair oriole]

Time for more suffering!
Doing the challenge stages is destroying my soul

[urban bluff]

oh boy, magologue EX stage

good luck when you get there

[pliant socket]

ME stages 💤

[vagrant cave]

||Tree boss theme is fire fr fr||

[austere willow]

tag that

[vagrant cave]

I was talking about whispy fr fr

[vale river]

Honestly like

||the EX stage took almost 0 effort? Since I've beaten RtDL so many times there were 0 surprises||

||I just did it in one go no deaths no nothing||

||I was expecting something more||

||IT WAS COOL CONCEPTUALLY OF COURSE I loved the idea behind it, but the challenge wasn't present||

[novel fog]

||is one of the Rasin Ruins songs (31 in Sound Test) really 古代の人々のあとかた ('Trace of Ancient People')? interesting||

[vale river]

||but I also had fully upgraded surge which is hands down the most OP upgrade||

[vale river]

||Citadel of the Ancients I think it was translated||

[novel fog]

||lol why did they translate it as that||

[vale river]

||ruins lol||

||me when ruins||

[novel fog]

||I mean あとかた is just like trace or evidence||

[vale river]

Actually I think I have that slightly off

Pretty sure I mixed it up with the meme I told a friend 💀

Me when I lie

Yeah lol

||Vestiges of the Ancients||

[fathom cradle]

I KNOW

[novel fog]

that makes more sense lol

[vagrant cave]

||why does the name for the epilogue final boss theme song go so hard like "Mistilteinn Tree Crown Without a Ruler" sounds dope af||

[vague tide]

I'm back from playing RTDLDX

ABSOLUTELY PEAK REMAKE OH MY GOD

[vagrant cave]

you finished the epilogue

[vague tide]

I beat True Arena

[vagrant cave]

ok

[vale river]

Extra Mode wasn't lying

That healing items can more sparse

[vagrant cave]

the mago epilogue final boss is fucking insane bro

[vague tide]

IKR

[vagrant cave]

Only Kirby games would explain a goofy little spin-off with one of if not the most epic fights in the series

[brisk maple]

I did it-

I beat the game.
Both main game and epilogue in one sitting-

[thin prairie]

Bro why are microtransactions canon now

[vagrant cave]

ain't no way

[vagrant cave]

capitalism is cannon

[brisk maple]

is full way

and

wow

umm

gonna need a minute to process ALL OF THAT

wow

[vagrant cave]

the theme for the final boss is fire

[brisk maple]

I WAS TOO BUSY OOGLING THE DESIGN

MY GOD

[vagrant cave]

I can't wait for people to remix it

[vague tide]

Yesterday I did main mode, arena, and epilogue in one sitting, today I did extra mode and true arena

[brisk maple]

couldn't be me

[vagrant cave]

What happens when you don't buy the gem apples

fr fr

[brisk maple]

||Master Crown comes back to murder you||

[vagrant cave]

[brisk maple]

||I was not expecting the MASTER CROWN of all things to get a banger design..||

[vagrant cave]

capitalism is now cannon

[brisk maple]

AND IT'S HUGE

[vague tide]

That ||phase two pause screen lore|| for ||True Arena Magolor Soul|| got me shaking

[brisk maple]

WHY IS IT SO BIG-

[vagrant cave]

🤨

[vague tide]

I cant believe ||Whispy Woods|| is the epilogue final boss

[vagrant cave]

Imagine that beam attack in 3D

[austere willow]

....

If you use the Magolor Cannon on ||The Magolor Star Block name||

it.... it gives you ||86 combo||

how the FUCK

[vagrant cave]

combo block fr fr

[thin prairie]

Easy platinum

[austere willow]

mfers dont know the 86 number

[vague tide]

My play time is 33 hours so far

It will go higher

[vague tide]

The rite of passage for a Kirby fan includes learning what 86 is what are you on (/j)

[brisk maple]

A friend said that to me

[brisk maple]

THE.
WHAT.

[novel fog]

||wait really? nice||

||like a HAL Room without being a HAL Room lol||

[vague tide]

Now that I've fully beat the game I can finally open Youtube and this server

[brisk maple]

HAL you cheeky sons of bitches..

[heady relic]

yeah I actually calculated how it adds up
||72 blocks + 1 broom hatter + 13 additional hits on broom hatter = 86
https://twitter.com/Falco_Lau_EX/status/1629333388434853888||

[vital pasture]

Just 100%ed the game

||I almost cried when the Magoland theme after clearting all 100 missions is a remix of Return To Dreamland(credit theme)||

[heady relic]

just asked a speedrunner and he confirms ||PR Galacta's theme is used if you play as Meta Knight in The True Arena||

and btw ||his PB is 14:05||

[novel fog]

||do we know what Bandana Waddle Dee plays there?||

[acoustic crescent]

nice callback to PR meta knightmare returns :o

[jolly valve]

||No word of beating True Arena withh all 4 characters unlocks Magolor for it?||

[austere willow]

WHAT

THATS SO FUNNY

and cool

[novel fog]

yeah, btw if you didn't know ||Fighters 2 Cresent Dedede and MK's theme plays there if you use Dedede||

[austere willow]

THEY MADE HIM THE ||MORPHO KNIGHT MUSIC CHANGES DEPENDING ON WHO PLAYS????||

[vocal latch]

YOOO

[novel fog]

||yeah, have no idea what Bandana Waddle Dee uses though||

||it would have to be a song already used elsewhere lol||

[urban bluff]

|| no ringo no jusu for bandee||

[austere willow]

Hmm

[urban bluff]

hmmm

[austere willow]

could it be the KF2 remix of the Kirby Fighters (subgame) + Triple Deluxe motif theme?

[urban bluff]

||I do wonder if they gonna use an FL song for bandee||

[novel fog]

||that's used in secret path Extra Mode Mid-Boss Tower||

||but who knows if they used it here too||

[austere willow]

ah

explains teh filename

[pliant socket]

||Secret Path? What is this, Kirby's Blowout Blast?||

||I know what you mean btw lol||

[urban bluff]

I do wonder if anyone has done true arena with all 4 and see if it unlock magolor

[austere willow]

it will take 20 years for that to happen

[brisk maple]

||It would be kinda funny if the power of the master crown is why Kirby clash has micro transactions||

||It's stealing the one thing us humans hold dear in this world.. MONEY!! AND THE MASTER CROWN WILL REVIVE AND THE DREAM KINGDOM IS SCREWED||

[fleet osprey]

||for a second I thought the gold thing on gem apple tree was the remainings of master crown||

[brisk maple]

...

[fleet osprey]

is it real

[fathom flicker]

so

I defeated Whispy EX

[brisk maple]

whos gonna tell em?👀👀👀

[fleet osprey]

no no I beat the epilogue

[fathom flicker]

I'm stopping there for now

(everyone's too excited for the True Arena)

[urban bluff]

I am pretty sure it is, strimp

[fleet osprey]

YES

thats so metal

[urban bluff]

||you can see the same golden strips on master crown body||

[fleet osprey]

||I just didn't know that Master Crown survived after the boss||

[austere willow]

we actually have no idea what ||happens to the Master Crown after it got sliced||

[fleet osprey]

||since nothing implies that it went to Clashverse with Magolor||

[brisk maple]

i mean..

the seed-

[austere willow]

ya but the fruit itself is ||ornate and gem-like in the first place||

[austere willow]

||its just an apple||

[austere willow]

as far as we know

[brisk maple]

I wonder what would happen..

||If Kirby ate the Red Fruit??||

[urban bluff]

||although yeah, the golden strips on the body doesn't look like master crown's weird wrapping things||

[fathom flicker]

y'all have a lot to say

I know some of this is about ||Magolor Soul changes||

[fleet osprey]

this is my goty so far

gonna 100% three files

four technically since I have a coop save in a separate acc

[novel fog]

||btw, does anyone think it's interesting that they specifically used 'gem' to describe what Galacta's sealed in? maybe it doesn't mean much but still have to wonder||

[opaque flare]

||Whispy is PISSED and you will DIE||

[fleet osprey]

||yeah I thought he'd be related to epilogue||

[austere willow]

headcanon is still ||GK is from Dream Kingdom world||

[vocal latch]

||yeah same||

[novel fog]

||what else uses ジェム besides Gem Apples and that description? (not counting Gemra's name of course lol)||

[lean grotto]

||my goty so far is still pizza tower||

[urban bluff]

||kirby fans when they see any formation of gem or a butterfly: ||

[pliant socket]

FRFR ONG

||this would be goty but erm no scope shot sooooo||

||pizza tower SWEEP baby||

[vocal latch]

||pizza tower scope shot mod||

[lean grotto]

||for me im still a bit dissapointed with eggpilogue from what i've seen||

magoland is still goated and i love the new art style tho

[urban bluff]

sth I am curious about

what exactly is their priority when it come to picking characters for masks?

like we have conemouth but not dark matter eye form

[novel fog]

||I mean they probably thought Mock Matter and Dark Matter Clone was good enough||

[austere willow]

its whatever they fuckin want lol

[urban bluff]

I get conemouth is funny, but won't car mouth be more iconic

that's true I guess

holiday susie is definitely a weird one though cuz has that design been seen anywhere else

[novel fog]

they already referenced Car Mouth elsewhere anyway, and harder to be a mask

[vocal latch]

Ribbon alt being a reference to one of the fairies is cute

[pliant socket]

||war if it was awesome ‼️ ||

[novel fog]

||you sure there's a way to view early game MAX lines after the fact? there's only 9 spots here for Trickery, unless I'm missing something||

[nocturne summit]

Wow! That sure was a game! I'm gonna explode

Cope over ||no gala lore||

Rip My son

There is this tho

The absolute hell was this supposed tk mean

[fathom cradle]

btw ultrby i just got to extra mode midboss tower

however i did the normal path and the track didn't show up in jukebox

[novel fog]

yeah I know

oh

weird

[fathom cradle]

bro posted i know before i even said anything 😭

[novel fog]

thought you were gonna say what song plays there lol

[fathom cradle]

not sure if it'll just show up after i beat extra mode maybe?

i definitely thought it should appear right away though

i'll check again when i beat extra mode as well

[nocturne summit]

In uh

The original iirc you just unlocked the rest after the true arena

[novel fog]

||well we don't know if the different form is really visual or if it is just different form of power, and seems to just say they its to cross through or transcend over space in JP version and not actually warp it||

[nocturne summit]

It was weird

Is there anything new for gala in the Japanese version

[vocal latch]

||I assumed it was alluding to the Rampaging Doomers in Epilogue||

[nocturne summit]

Ahhh I did epilgue before extra mode so I guess I didn't think abt that

[novel fog]

||not too much, but says he crossed through many dimensions and time, and also end of description has similar feeling to Morpho's with saying he was never supposed to be fought and stuff||

[wintry turtle]

Just beat the true arena

Yeah.

[novel fog]

||they also use ジェム (gem) to describe his seal in JP version too, note it hasn't been used much for stuff other than Gem Apples||

[nocturne summit]

So stoll not canon got it 😭

[wintry turtle]

I FORGOT TO PAUSE FOR LOOOOORE SHIT

[nocturne summit]

ITS OK I HAVE A LIAT

[novel fog]

I mean technically canon but hasn't been seen in main world yeah lol

[nocturne summit]

List

[wintry turtle]

I get so wrapped up in the intensity of the boss fights it just completely skips my mind lmao

[novel fog]

||https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v8Qk9XCZkrEVZ09th-BWQZq8qmM_umLkYsiA0lbgcUc/edit|| this has English and most Japanese ones

[wintry turtle]

🙏

Thank you

[nocturne summit]

Ah beat to it lol

UHM. ||The music that plays in the rest area before magplor soul in the true arena. 👁️{||

[novel fog]

||actually wait dumb question does Kirby have unique Arena description like in original? have not seen anyone post it||

[nocturne summit]

Oh shoot lemme check rn

[wintry turtle]

|| AND HE WE ARE || type beat

[marble jungle]

I mean, HAL is good at everything and all that, I kinda want to see them giving a daring embrace of the cartoony nature of the characters...

[nocturne summit]

Just this

[novel fog]

||but for Kirby himself?||

||original had unique one for him there||

[nocturne summit]

Sorry I got it and then discord crashed lmao

[fathom cradle]

||yea there's a kirby screen||

[nocturne summit]

SEND

[marble jungle]

||(Ironically the only attack involving Bandana Waddle Dee's foot is the slide...)||

[novel fog]

oh nice

good to know they didn't remove it lol

[pliant socket]

this would have been funnier than the og but alas we got

[nocturne summit]

LMAOOOO

[austere willow]

the latter doesnt even look shocked anymore that mf trying to eat

[austere willow]

Can HAL keep this up. The glorious showcase of personality and character in writing.

More of this HAL please

[novel fog]

yeah, hopefully someone will post all the lines soon, they seem interesting

I especially want the JP ones

[ruby narwhal]

||That’s our mags||

[lean grotto]

yeah if theres one thing i dont like about this remake its that the cutscenes look.....off

dedede especially

like he looks nothing like in game

[austere willow]

at least he does it evnetually

[novel fog]

also Clay do you know where you can view the early MAX descriptions at ingame after the fact, from what I saw there isn't enough room for them

[wintry turtle]

|| 😭 ||

[novel fog]

by that I mean stuff like

[austere willow]

it can only be viewed in that screen

[novel fog]

oh

[austere willow]

the rest, however can be seen in Details

[novel fog]

so you lied to me earlier lol

well these are probably gonna be pain to find

[austere willow]

why dont u just wait for someone to max out the skills 😩 (me)

[novel fog]

yeah but you can't see them after the fact lol

[austere willow]

wym you cant see them...

do you mean BEFORE the game tells you you can upgrade further?

[novel fog]

yeah, those descriptions

[austere willow]

that requires someone to grind before the juicy areas you can farm points with.

and probably needs a new save file

[novel fog]

yeah lol

[austere willow]

so pretty much a hassle

i will keep that in mind for a 2nd save file

its before defeating ||Rampaging Doomers|| right. or is it before defeating|| Hydriath||

[novel fog]

||oh is it really only once the MAX increases? guess it's sometime after Hydriath||

||okay it's after Doomers||

[austere willow]

its an unlock based on the ||Fruit Fragment||

[novel fog]

||why is it that late lmao||

[novel fog]

||yeah but I'd thought it be for like each boss or something||

[austere willow]

the 1st one boots you at the altar and Bomb, the 2nd one gives you ||Surge and Cannon, the 3rd one gives you Needles and Vanish, the 4th one gives you Black Hole||

[novel fog]

||yeah but I thought it'd increases MAXes too, not just once||

[austere willow]

i could not remember what ||Hydriath|| gives

and i think it might be the Max upgrades bumped up

[novel fog]

||nope, seems to be after Doomers||

[maiden crane]

so i saw something here about ||hrd3 playing roar of dedede?? or something?||

[novel fog]

yeah

[austere willow]

they basically put it so that redundant tracks in the og instead use tracks from anywhere else

[novel fog]

well most of them

[austere willow]

like how the Egg Engines HAL room uses Scope Shot's og theme

[jolly valve]

I forgot how hard this art goes

[austere willow]

ive been meaning to ask

are you a greninja

[novel fog]

||and Dangerous Dinner Stage 2 one uses Kawasaki's Scope Shot theme||

[jolly valve]

Yes

[austere willow]

Wow.

[novel fog]

||and then there's stuff using songs from other games like Extra Mode's Mid-Boss Tower paths (Macho of Dedede for normal one, Fighters 2 Fighters Deluxe title remix for secret)||

[austere willow]

oh yeah i noticed that they put Waddle Tank onto the EX tower

er not ex tower

[novel fog]

well, secret path

[austere willow]

Secret Main Story Tower

[novel fog]

yeah

||still wondering what they called Macho of Dedede in English||

||like is it basically same as JP or nah||

[austere willow]

I have yet to finish Extra Mode

speaking of which

[vocal latch]

||Inb4 it's "Strength of Dedede"||

[austere willow]

So true!

[vocal latch]

||or Muscles of Dedede||

[novel fog]

||oh is 'Warrior from Another World' really 'Otherworldly Warrior' in English lol||

[austere willow]

i mean as much as we Kirby fans love to put emphasis in the word Another it just really doenst vibe as hard in English

[novel fog]

eh

it's fine

[austere willow]

OH they

Translated Distant Traveler to Interdimensional

[novel fog]

yeah, at least it is sort of better than it was before lol

lol I'm probably still gonna use JP names

[austere willow]

so much for waiting 10+ years for track title names 😩

[novel fog]

I mean I didn't care too much for English ones, there's only like one I wanted to be officially translated lol

||like why'd they translate 'Magolor, The Distant Traveler' as 'Magolor, the Far-Flung Traveler' lol||

[novel fog]

also didn't they translate the term as Another World elsewhere anyway

[vocal latch]

I mean yeah but both translations seem valid to me

[novel fog]

still weird lol

[vocal latch]

How so?

[novel fog]

I mean why use term used for Parallel bosses for him

[austere willow]

huh

Far-Flung?

isnt Far-Flung only used once as KSA's Far-Flung Starlight Heroes

[novel fog]

yeah lmao

[vocal latch]

also SKC

in English

[austere willow]

what did SKC use it

[novel fog]

and JP doesn't use same term as that

[vocal latch]

for Bandee dialogue after Aeon Hero (Dark)

[novel fog]

what did JP use there

[vocal latch]

haruka

yea

#kirby-kingdom message

[thin prairie]

Baro#8858 - #kirby-kingdom

GALACTA KNIGHT DESCRIPTION (KIRBY: SUPER STAR ULTRA)
はるかなるときをこえ いざしょうぶ！
Distant time is crossed, now, fight!

BANDANA WADDLE DEE (SUPER KIRBY CLASH)
…もしかしたら はるかなる時を こえて
古の英雄が ふっかつ することが あるかも しれないけれど…
...I don't know if the ancient hero will be resurrected crossing distant time, but...

そんなときも キミのような 旅の わかものが
きっと 世界を すくってくれるって しんじて いるよ！
Even in that case, I believe that a traveling youth just like you will surely save the world!

Quoted by Baro#8858 • [352190357880045579] · Nov 13, 2022, 6:28 PM

[novel fog]

I meant for the Bandee dialogue

[austere willow]

far-flung seems to just be used interchangeably with the word Distant

[vocal latch]

That was what I was replying to.

[austere willow]

including

actual uses of the word

[unreal stag]

interesting that drawcia gets a mask and no other spinoff character

[vocal latch]

harukanaru specifically ig

[austere willow]

so its less that theyre using a specific term

and more like they just like this version of the word "Distant"

[novel fog]

oh so still different from Magolor, the Distant Traveler

yeah but feels weird

[broken rune]

huh apparently the intro of magolor epilogue ||uses footage of magolor soul dying
does this mean magolor soul is canon or like... what||

[novel fog]

and its longer so

[austere willow]

dis tant

far flung

ehhh aroudn the same

[novel fog]

few letters longer

[austere willow]

i think how they use far-flung over distant is how people would use Fire/Flame over other words that mean combustion

less so than it is a "term"

[novel fog]

||oh they translated 'Climax! Robo Dedede' as 'Climactic Clash! Robo Dedede', I mean guess 'Climax' stuff for Scope Shot wasn't ever translated here but lol||

[cedar solstice]

||.... what did I just witness?||

[wintry turtle]

Yeah

[austere willow]

reminds me of how i realize i dont really see other OSTs going ||~Noun! [Rest of Title]||

i think the closest thing i can think of is Pokemon tracks going Encounter! [Trainer Class]

other than that cant think of an example

[novel fog]

||in case anyone's wondering, the part where the weak point is exposed for bosses in Scope Shot is called Climax iirc, and Robo Dedede's 2nd phase is EXクライマックスモード ('EX Climax Mode')||

||so the name is reference to that||

[cold pawn]

correct

[austere willow]

but whati s the Waddle Dee track...

anyway i REALLY hope HAL keeps up this direction for the series for real

in depth ways of making the game harder and/or modes that straight up are just harder with depth to make it easier

instead of games prior to KSA going... reads notes

Harder Mode or Harder Speedrun Mode

[broken rune]

by depth to make it easier do you mean the magolor upgrades

[austere willow]

and also the direction of more character interactions/character driven stories

ya or KSA's Stat-Increasing-Hearts

or KF2's "Rogue Items"

[cold pawn]

Ironically though, I feel like DededeTour and MKR are easier than those games' respective Story modes.

[austere willow]

exactly

[novel fog]

really I'd like a full game starring another character, I think they could do it well

like give me Daroach game lol

even if it is moreso usual 2D style

[austere willow]

me when i like 2D style and Magolor Epilogue is the very direction iw ant them to go if they want to keep doing 2D

that 1 director Yakumono mentioned who was a level designer?

i see their vision now...

[novel fog]

yeah I like it, I just meant I'd be fine even if they didn't change gameplay too drastically

[austere willow]

like Magolor Epilogue has some really good level design that still works even if you did no-upgrades

and it turns from a difficult retro-esque you will die game with No-Upgrades

to a KSA-level fun beat-em-up fest with Upgrades

i am engorging on this feast

[cedar solstice]

||I'm still trying to process what happened... I'll go take a shower||

[cold pawn]

Do you guys have any ||True Arena speedrun times, like in video form||?

[austere willow]

not yet

[wintry turtle]

Idk but I envy anyone insane enough to do so

[vocal latch]

I DID ALL OF MAGOLAND

FORREAL THIS TIME

[wintry turtle]

Speaking of that

|| This game honestly might have the hardest true arena. I had an easier time with SMEX. Oh and UCZ exists too but eh, it's like right under SMEX in terms of difficulty. ||

|| No getting away with hammer flip spam, no magolor/marx/mage sisters to cheese, and no morpho blade to exterminate, just raw skill with any ability you can make do with. ||

[austere willow]

I think I'll do Leaf

cuz even if it has invince guard, it still has hard trouble dealing good damage

unless they made it easier than RtDL's version

[wintry turtle]

I highly recommend spark

[austere willow]

i do not want to shake my joycons to win

[broken rune]

:[

[cold pawn]

As I said yesterday, ||to compare the two Arenas properly, we should use a character that hasn't been touched between the two games, which is Bandana Dee, and, after completing both Arenas with him (solo), I understood that SMEX is still the overall harder Boss Rush, but this game's True Arena is longer and features insane bosses that are even more chaotic than that of SMEX||

[austere willow]

Spark's just too annoying to use even with the static mechanic to me

Spark requires you to sit next to someone like 1 tile if not shorter

at least Plasma has a projectile that zaps 2 tiles at least

other wise with Spark you just sit in a corner while guarding shaking ur joycon

[viral wagon]

Has anyone finished Magalor Epilogue yet?

[austere willow]

i have

what is it that you seek

[cold pawn]

||I did||

[austere willow]

why do we need to spoiler that...

[urban bluff]

I think a lot of people did cuz that's like the first thing you gonna gun for after the main story

[austere willow]

stop making me have to click spoilers only to not read a spoiler!!!

[viral wagon]

||With the ending of Magalor Epilogue does that mean that Super Kirby Clash is canon?||

[austere willow]

also what about Dedede/MK

[urban bluff]

||yes that kinda is the implication. the blasting of ordeal theme in final boss and credit theme help||

[novel fog]

||actually huh why did they translate Landia's theme as just 'Guardian Angel: Landia'? odd||

[austere willow]

||Team Kirby Clash DX||

[wintry turtle]

|| I still couldn't believe it when I saw the credits ||

[viral wagon]

||So that means Team Kirby Clash DX and Super Kirby Clash are different timelines||

[austere willow]

||super kirby clash is its own can of worms no one wants to decipher it||

its possible that ||both exist but we have no idea||

[novel fog]

||I'd assume TKCD and SKC are same world but who knows lmao||

[austere willow]

rn we are sure that its ||Team Kirby Clash Deluxe due to the village he goes to and the inhabitants that is shwon in the images||

[cold pawn]

Sorry, I think that stating that I beat ||Magolor Epilogue|| could be a spoiler, because ||it gives away the amount of time that it can be beat or something||, just to be sure I'm spoiler tagging as much as possible

[austere willow]

me when i have to click spoilers again to see not spoilers

[cold pawn]

I feel like they have been slightly modified from their Star Allies appearance, somehow I think that.

While Bandana Dee seems to be 99% untouched

[austere willow]

and what has been modified

[viral wagon]

||I'm still not quite sure on the lore for Master Crown the boss itself||

[austere willow]

I guess Dedede's moves are legitimately faster/easier to use

[austere willow]

||needs a Kumazaki to explain it to us||

[viral wagon]

Or whether or not ||They're related to Whispy Woods in some way||

[broken rune]

||super kirby clash takes after tkcd, just with a different kirby named kirby that is also pink ||

[cold pawn]

Dedede Jump only hits once per Jump, instead of two times

[austere willow]

but rn the lore is that ||The Master Crown is a parasite||

[austere willow]

no

[novel fog]

||yeah, it is more specifically likened to mistletoe with song name||

[austere willow]

i think we have to acknowledge here that as far as we know rn ||The Master Crown possessed the tree. its not the tree||

[wintry turtle]

Then whats with || void ||

[novel fog]

||well, not even that, it possessed a 'red fruit'||

[austere willow]

like yeah its a ||mistletoe but misteltoes are not trees||

[novel fog]

||I just said likened not was lol||

[cold pawn]

Void can summon weapons that were used to defeat it in the far past. At least that's what we understood with Dark Matter Clone

[viral wagon]

||Wait, wait, how powerful are the Gem Apples exactly?||

[austere willow]

powerful

[broken rune]

||so like do gem apples hold power? were we assembling a basic gem apple or a special one that grows into a tree through the power of money||

[novel fog]

||well that wouldn't matter in this context since it refers to Master Crown not tree anyway||

[broken rune]

whoops typed that message before bluey’s was sent

[austere willow]

wait how did we get this from Clone.

[viral wagon]

It's OK, I'm just ||still very confused about whatever the heck the Gem Apples are||

[austere willow]

||powerful energy source plants||

[broken rune]

both made from dark matter?

[austere willow]

??????????????????

not doing this again.

[viral wagon]

Not to mention that ||sword Magalor grabbed, is it like the Excalibur of Kirby||

[wintry turtle]

Interesting

[austere willow]

#kirby-kingdom message

[thin prairie]

Sacred Faerie#9691 - #kirby-kingdom

But like to summarize again

• Void is "that child who is nothing", according to Kumazaki, (hence the name Nil which is translated to Void)
• He is influenced (somaru) by the ones who cause his birth
• He resembles (Niru, which is also how Nil is read in Jp) the ones he first sees when he's born
• All chaos and potential were gathered in the four matters, Dream, Dark, Soul, Heart, and Void was born as "Engen no So" which means like. He's the cause of all creation or something stupid like that
• There is a Void for every dimension
• The ancients saw him shining like a star and wrote the book of legends about him
• At some point he became the Hajin (Destroyer God), Void Termina/Ende Nil and continuously created darkness
• Four ancient heros sealed him with four spears of heart, which are created from their kindness and positivity
• Also there's the Jamba Heart which is like crystalized darkness or something, which is the vessel that God exists within, so it's like an onion or some shit where Void is inside the Jamba Heart inside the Four Spears of Heart's seal
• The Jamba Heart at one point traveled through Another Dimension
• Hyness got the book of legends which foretold Void's rebirth
• The book also says that depending on the energy gathered, Void can become all sorts of beings, such as a Destroyer God like he did in SA, but also a Star Ally
• Hyness got the Jamba Heart but did not know how to revive Void, shattering both the Jamba Heart and the Spears of Heart and spreading them throughout the galaxy
• Hyness gathers the hearts from across the galaxy and Void is revived, being influenced by Hyness and the hearts into being born as the Destroyer God
• Void sees Kirby and resembles his face and his innocent soul
• The darkness from Hyness and the innocence from Kirby amplify and conflict with each other, and Void gains a soul, becoming a Soul Chaos (Essence of Chaos)
• The various faces Void makes (Besides Kirby's which comes from Kirby) is due to the hearts that Hyness collected
• The first form of Void, the Devil, is a symbol of the power of the Jamba Heart
• The third forrm of Void, the Angel, is a divine figure since Hyness wanted Void to be his God

Quoted by Clay#9838 • [278295447838261251] · Feb 10, 2023, 3:59 PM

[cold pawn]

Dark Matter Clone can summon the Rainbow Sword, the same weapon that Kirby used to defeat its original form back in DL2.

It can be assumed that Void can do the same thing, which is why the Master Crown it summons might have been a weapon that was used by one of the 4 Heroes of Yore

[novel fog]

yeah we don't actually know what Void's weapons summoned are from

[austere willow]

stop assuming things 😩

[austere willow]

This is what we truly know

[vocal latch]

Yeah I never got this assumption either

[cold pawn]

Well then, there would be almost nothing to talk about, then

[austere willow]

me hwen i posted a text wall from faye...

[vocal latch]

I think it's easier to assume that the Jamba Heart absorbed some darkness in the galaxy which led to Void Termina doing that.

[austere willow]

Anyway we still dont know what the connection is with Void and the ||Master Crown, especially in this game||

[novel fog]

like for Spears of Love I can sort of get it, but even then they are not exactly like the Spears of the heart either

[cold pawn]

Kirby lore is still mostly headcanon and visual and textual assumptions

[austere willow]

we ||DO know that it uses similar attacks like the rotating laser beam from Void Termina||

[austere willow]

dont use that as an excuse

we dont actually know if Clone making the Rainbow Sword means Void does the same thing

[unreal stag]

||is whispy related to the gem apples||

[cold pawn]

It is like that, though

[broken rune]

i forgot, void summoned like 4 crowns right

[austere willow]

||nothing indicates this||

[austere willow]

yeah this

[vocal latch]

Also for Clone it was related to the Memories because that's like a big theme in the game lmfao, Mind/Memories/Thoughts

[unreal stag]

||(they're both apple trees that's it)||

[vocal latch]

We don't know if the original Dark Matter can do stuff like this from its memories.

[wintry turtle]

|| God when he used that, especially with the laser above and below I was like "You think I ain't played robobot before?" Lmao ||

[vocal latch]

If it could, why didn't it in Dream Land 3?

[unreal stag]

dang mobile keyboards making me type slow

[austere willow]

What we DO know is that both Void Termina and ||Master Crown are heavily "Destruction" related||

it CAN be possilbe that ||Void uses them to cause destruction and may not have made the Crowns||

[unreal stag]

and ruining the joke

[austere willow]

but theyre both described as ||destruction causing entities||

[unreal stag]

why is the vertical line hidden in two layers of shift

[austere willow]

blame ur phone

[vocal latch]

||There's also technically the orb in Magolor Soul's arena in the True Arena, I guess. But I think they just used Void Termina's core's assets here because it looks cool||

[austere willow]

and all phones everywhere

[wintry turtle]

|| Was really hoping that orb would have to do something with another phase ||

[austere willow]

I think they just did that because ||AD|| has relations with Void (but like. what doesnt have relations to ||AD||)

[novel fog]

||and both associated with hatred (at least for normal Void Termina), right?||

[unreal stag]

||it's probably just a sphere||

[austere willow]

its there to convey the vibe of otherworldliness i think

[unreal stag]

ye

[vocal latch]

||Hatred and Obsession specifically.||

[austere willow]

further, since this arena is already seen in ||Main Story Mode and then Extra Mode||

both of which would look the same

[vocal latch]

||Well Void Termina's ALSO desire & jealousy||

[wintry turtle]

Yeah that's most likely the case

[novel fog]

||well idk how much Crown is associated with obsession outside of Magolor Soul||

||while hatred is mentioned in JP description of Master Crown||

[vocal latch]

||I mean, it does contain the hatred and obsessions of prior rulers||

[cold pawn]

Theory: are all those ||prior rulers Dedede related||?

[novel fog]

||oh, forgot they added that in Soul description lol||

[austere willow]

Also

They still keep the fact that the ||Crown was made by the Ancients||

[novel fog]

||actually does JP version specifically say 'past' rulers here or just 覇王 (supreme rulers), probably still implied but just wondering||

[cold pawn]

Why would they make a ||parasitic weapon||?

[novel fog]

||maybe they didn't mean it to be?||

[austere willow]

||The Crown of Domination: Master Crown is resurrected as a Mistletoe of the Red Fruit. ||

is what it says on the desc

[wintry turtle]

Oh damn

[vocal latch]

#1077968255232254092 message

[thin prairie]

Baro#8858 - #[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

||Neat that Master Crown pause screen uses「古代の人」(kodai no hito) "ancient people", same exact word as the ancient people who wrote the book of legends in True Void Termina's second pause screen||

Quoted by Baro#8858 • [352190357880045579] · Feb 24, 2023, 11:57 AM

[vocal latch]

#1077968255232254092 message

[thin prairie]

Baro#8858 - #[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

||In the OG game, Magolor used「昔の人」(mukashi no hito), which is synonymous so yea||

Quoted by Baro#8858 • [352190357880045579] · Feb 24, 2023, 11:57 AM

[austere willow]

im reading up on the descs again

[novel fog]

||mentioning that, they also called one of Rasin Ruins songs 古代の人々のあとかた ('Trace of Ancient People'), wonder if it means anything||

[vocal latch]

[austere willow]

"Vestiges of the Ancients" in english

[novel fog]

yeah

[cedar solstice]

Well I guess it's time to listen to the ost

I'll drink a whole bottle of water every time I hear the magolor motif

[austere willow]

me bout to make a joke that is it really an OST with all the tracks from the og? then me realizing all of them have been "adjusted"

so by technicality

it do be the whole OST...

[urban bluff]

o7

spoiler alert ||if you listen to inward struggle you have to drink a whole bottle at x0.5 speed||

[wintry turtle]

I need to get a good listen to all the tracks that are new and the ones that have an actual noticeable difference

[austere willow]

i still cant get over Green Winds Remix

[vocal latch]

||MAGOLOR (RETURN)
コノ船、ローアはハルカンドラに ふるくカラつたわる船デ…おおムカシの ヒトたちがつくりあげた、デンセツの船なンダ。
This ship, Lor, is a ship narrated about since ancient times here in Halcandra... A legendary ship made by ancients.

TRUE VOID TERMINA PHASE 2 (STAR ALLIES)
星のように 輝く彼を見て、古代の人々は 謎と共に書物に残した。
Seeing him shine like a star, ancients described him in a book of riddles.

LANDIA EX (RETURN DELUXE)
古代の人々*が 作ったという 伝説のクラウン。
The legendary crown was made by ancients.

JUKEBOX (RETURN DELUXE)
古代の人々のあとかた
Trace of Ancients||

[austere willow]

how dare you make a FadedDreamofAPsychoMeddler version of Cookie Country tracks

[vocal latch]

Why can't I quote & spoiler 😭

I hate Discord

[austere willow]

do we know who composed Green Winds Remix

[vocal latch]

but yea the word Magolor uses isn't the same as the rest

Well, does anyone have the JP version of the EX Speech in Deluxe?

Maybe they changed it to the other word??

[novel fog]

||https://www.youtube.com/live/Sv2XD7EJFig?feature=share&t=9688 text pops up around 2:41:28, they added new stuff btw||

[vocal latch]

oh god

[novel fog]

Baro did you see the whole ||Magolor admitting he lied about being from Halcandra|| stuff yet

[vocal latch]

Oh???

No, I didn't yet

||What'd he say||

[austere willow]

FUCKING FINALLY

I KNEW THAT BITCH WASNT ||FROM HALCANDRA||

[vocal latch]

||YOU GOT IT||

GG

[novel fog]

JP text is in video but supposedly this is English version, too lazy to paste lol

[urban bluff]

zan partizanne was not lying, this ||egg is deceptive||

[austere willow]

FINALYYYYYYYYYYYY

ITS NOT HIS DAMN STUPID ||HOMETOWN|| HAHAHAHA

I KNEW YOU WERE A LYING PIECE OF SHIT ILY MAGOLOR

This is such a fucking. dialogue

[vocal latch]

||Is THIS NEW 120 ENERGY SPEHRE DIALOGUE???||

[novel fog]

||also yes he talks about his dream of building amusement park lol, so he had it even back then||

[vocal latch]

THIS IS PERFECT

[novel fog]

||yeah, see it after first two things it seems||

[austere willow]

So we get confirmation that

[vocal latch]

||I mean, makes sense, considering Lor Challenge Stages & OG Minigames||

[vocal latch]

||Is there another one???||

[austere willow]

1: ||Homeboy aint from HOMECANDRA.||
2: ||More implications that Manager Magolor is post-RtDL magolor||

[novel fog]

||no I mean the stuff from original||

[vocal latch]

No ik

[novel fog]

||also idk if Main Mode has anything different, haven't seen anyone post it yet if so||

[vocal latch]

||I was asking if there's other new dialogue for main/EX Magolor||

ok gotcha

[novel fog]

yeah idk

[austere willow]

Wait so if this dialogue is true

||Then Magolors plan to open small -> big theme park||

||Manager Magolor definiteily future magolor real?||

[vocal latch]

||Story Mode (RTDL)→Magolor Epilogue→Team Kirby Clash Deluxe→Kirby's Dream Collection→Dedede's Drum Dash Deluxe→Kirby Star Allies(→Super Kirby Clash???→Kirby Fighters 2???)→Merry Magoland|| MAYBE???

[novel fog]

||wait I didn't even notice the shop thing||

[vocal latch]

||I'm still not sure if Super Kirby Clash even works tbh, why does he wear the white again lol||

||They really should just make a combo of the two's story elements so it gets less confusing IMO||

[novel fog]

||idk, probably liked wearing it||

[vocal latch]

||Like, make Parallel Nightmare the "postgame" or whatever lmfao||

||Then do the funny Aeon Hero as true final boss||

[novel fog]

||lol when will they explain Super Clash man, so much weird stuff||

[vocal latch]

||While Main Story is essentially Clash Deluxe||

||They could legit just then say "While Team Kirby has fought the parallels/anothers the mirror has created, as well as sealing its ruler, they did miss one parallel/another...a cloaked wizard"||

Like IDK

||do SOMETHING to actually make the story clear.||

||Okay, so obviously Magoland in-universe is after the Story Mode, Magologue & Kirby Clash||

||But what the hell is it doing in Nutty Noon background||

[novel fog]

||uh time and space shenanigans idk||

[vocal latch]

||I guess it could be from the mast messing time & space up???||

[novel fog]

||maybe, it is near there||

[coarse flower]

ok i just did all challenges and got all 120 energy spheres in main mode ||but only have 99% completion, what gives?||

hello?

[austere willow]

ok so

like

............me realizing|| he's been earning real money in exchange for magical AD apples||

He has like }||our actual money||

[wintry turtle]

HUH???

[coarse flower]

GUYS

[coarse flower]

help

[wintry turtle]

Did you complete every ability challenge

[coarse flower]

i did

i did all challenges and got all 120

[novel fog]

||he has money, but what can he do with it lol||

[coarse flower]

why don't i have a 100% main mode clear

[wintry turtle]

Did you do the arena yet?

[coarse flower]

that's its own mode

iirc

i mean, JUST STORY MODE ITSELF

[wintry turtle]

Hmmm

That's weird

[coarse flower]

maybe they changed the arena

[novel fog]

did you beat final boss? otherwise idk

[coarse flower]

i beat ||magolor||

[wintry turtle]

That's very odd

[coarse flower]

does it require you to platinum every challenge now or some crap?

[austere willow]

fund ||his theme park!!!!||

[wintry turtle]

No you just need bronze

[novel fog]

||but who will he pay lmao||

[coarse flower]

did anyone do all challenges and all spheres and not get 100%

anyone other than ME

[austere willow]

||other people! to buy materials!!!||

[vocal latch]

||buy material & workers||

[austere willow]

like i assume that all ||money we send him just converts ||

||to gold maybe???????||

[novel fog]

||but Dream Land at least doesn't have currency (yet), idk about other worlds though||

[vocal latch]

||Dream Land not having currency is just a Sakurai-era thing that's literally contradicted with GCO||

[wintry turtle]

Have you perhaps gone to the left of the Lor and unlocked the ability rooms?

[coarse flower]

yes

[novel fog]

||is it? thought it was mentioned in modern stuff too, haven't heard about it in context of old games||

[coarse flower]

i figured it out

i beat hi jump challenge but it didnt count it for some reason

[vocal latch]

||It was never mentioned in modern stuff AFAIK||

[coarse flower]

that or i forgot it

i'll do it again now

[wintry turtle]

I see

[vocal latch]

||(https://twitter.com/Sora_Sakurai/status/15745650289278976)
「あきれかえるほど平和な」プププランドには、統制、税金はもちろん、労働、通貨などの概念すらないというのが本来の設定です。（ただ、アニメカービィでは作風を考慮して通貨OKにした）
The original setting of the "absurdly peaceful" Pupupuland is that there is no concept of control, taxes, or even labor, currency, etc. (However, in the anime Kirby, currency was made OK in consideration of the style.)||

桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai)

「あきれかえるほど平和な」プププランドには、統制、税金はもちろん、労働、通貨などの概念すらないというのが本来の設定です。（ただ、アニメカービィでは作風を考慮して通貨OKにした）

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Twitter · Dec 17, 2010, 12:30 PM

||https://www.reddit.com/r/Kirby/comments/no2sci/does_dreamland_have_a_currency/gzyjye9/?context=3
Supplementary material from around the time of Kirby's Adventure's release stated that Dream Land does not have any real currency.
"プププランドには基本的に通貨がない"
("There basically is no currency in Dream Land")||

[novel fog]

||oh, so still not really directly from him||

[bitter shard]

||Barter economy Dreamland?||

[vocal latch]

||Maybe you were thinking of Pupupu Encyclopedia including that old supplementary material||

[novel fog]

||probably, and they still reference it so you know||

[vocal latch]

||One of these is literally from his Twitter wdym||

[vocal latch]

||When do they reference it?||

[novel fog]

||I mean the document||

[coarse flower]

got story mode 100%

[novel fog]

||like his height, forget what else it mentions though||

[vocal latch]

||Yeah, some stuff carries over, does not mean all.||

[novel fog]

||I mean you can say that for just about anything||

||and we still have not seen currency in Dream Land directly||

[austere willow]

in any case Magolor ||has our real money and used it to fund his theme park||

[novel fog]

||either way, it's funnier to imagine Magolor will basically 'invent' currency there lol||

[fleet prism]

||money is the source of all evils||

||no wonder the apple currency came from the god of sin tree||

[vocal latch]

||I am not doubting the legitimacy of the document, it's just that there's more evidence against Dream Land having currency.||

[austere willow]

tbf he's not even using any currency in Magoland, just "stamps"

[vocal latch]

||Like, again, GCO||

[novel fog]

||that's like the only thing, and we do not know if that is Dream Land's currency (or if that currency really exists at all or if it is just suppose to show how valuable the treasures would be); the whole mode also takes place in Majirute||

[fathom cradle]

new extra mode magolor dialogue after 120 spheres
||https://vxtwitter.com/KingProclaimed/status/1629423293165076483 ||

[novel fog]

yeah we were talking about it

good to have English video though

[austere willow]

ITS SO FUCKIN FUNNY I KNEW THAT BITCH ||WASNT FROM HALCANDRA||

[ruby narwhal]

||so I guess magoland takes place sometime in the future||

[novel fog]

||tbh I believed that he was from Halcandra, surprised to see it wasn't true||

[novel fog]

btw do you know if there's any new dialogue anywhere else

[fathom cradle]

i'm pretty sure there's another new quote after you beat puffer, where he slips up and almost calls the rtdl gang easy targets

but that's in both story and extra mode

[austere willow]

yeah you posted that in the other thread

i think?

[fathom cradle]

other than that i don't think anything else is new

i did post it at some point yea

[novel fog]

no new dialogue in Main Mode for 120 Spheres?

weird

[fathom cradle]

nope

i'll check again just in case but i don't remember anything interesting

[clever zinc]

|| He kind of looks like hyness though ||

[fathom cradle]

oh yes there is a new quote

he basically asks kirby why he helped a complete stranger

[novel fog]

||I mean, only the outfit lol||

[fathom cradle]

i didn't upload it bc i didn't think it was interesting i think lol

but i'll send it

[clever zinc]

|| maybe he's using it as a cover-up/ disguise about being "halcandrian" ||

[fathom cradle]

new magolor dialogue in story mode after 120 spheres
https://vxtwitter.com/KingProclaimed/status/1629426278741970945

[austere willow]

god i cant get a read on him

is he a bitch. is he a bastard. does he actually have a heart.

i love this writing

[leaden terrace]

YEAH EXACTLY

[ruby narwhal]

“Let’s keep on being great friends to each other, Kirby… ok?” Kek

[vocal latch]

||wait does JP use rakuen here||

[clever zinc]

I can't even read his thoughts

[austere willow]

He ||HATES Kirby and yet... he loves teasing him. He likes being devious to him||

He's like

a character dynamic Kirby hasnt had before

like in RtDL/Dream Collection he's just considered a rival type guy like Dedede

especially with the Magolor races

[novel fog]

||oh I think I saw this dialogue earlier, yes I think?||

[austere willow]

but now he has his own unique dynamic

and its that ||He views character with both dislike and delight||

[tepid pivot]

I'm honestly pretty glad that he apologised to kirby in the end

[austere willow]

Like i feel like Dedede nowadays has developped to a more like ||Dad-esque or Big Bro-esque character, that likes to Rival him, but they care about each other||

[vocal latch]

||Well you kinda do later ||

[clever zinc]

|| maybe all that matters to him is just how much he can profit from something so he keeps his relationship with kirby obscure ||

[austere willow]

on other hand, Magolor, ||is a character who by all means only really interacts with Kirby as a means to feed Magolor's own narcissistic ego by either friendship or trickery||

And htats the crux of it

[vocal latch]

I love this lmfao

[austere willow]

He's so narcissistic he wants to be friends

[vocal latch]

best no context pic

[urban bluff]

most sane magolor sentence

[austere willow]

He hates ||Kirby|| but hes so fucking egotistic that he wants everyone to scream of joy for his theme park. Including ||Kirby's friends||

[novel fog]

||wasn't this exact line used on a piece of merch recently? interesting||

[austere willow]

he aims high, his ambition knows no bounds, and its so fuckin good as a dynamic

[fathom cradle]

i really like magolor's added characterization in this game

[clever zinc]

|| he can't even contain his desires anymore ||

[vocal latch]

SAME

[clever zinc]

Who doesn't

I hate it and love it at the same time

[vocal latch]

||I wonder what Magolor's home planet now is lmfao, some nice added mystery||

||We'll probs never know lmfao||

[clever zinc]

I swear to god he once said that he speak magolorian or something

But i can't find it anymore

[vocal latch]

magolorese

[austere willow]

i think Magolor will never have an ||origin planet|| because of one simple title

[clever zinc]

YES THAT

[austere willow]

||Traveler||

[vocal latch]

comments that aged badly LOL

[vocal latch]

TRUEEEE

[bitter shard]

||Tbf No one expected this||

[clever zinc]

And also his || narcissistic asf personality ||

[austere willow]

Kirby 🤝 Magolor 🤝 Void Termina
No ||specific true origin|| due to the title of Traveler

[thin prairie]

What was this comment about?

[cedar solstice]

tf is bro on about

[clever zinc]

|| Tkc ||

[vocal latch]

||I did||

[thin prairie]

Oh the clash games I see

[vocal latch]

||TKCD Magolor||

[clever zinc]

|| How can you expect something as twisted as this ||

[thin prairie]

Can't believe the clash games(and by extension gk) are canon now lol

[vocal latch]

||always have been||

||I wasn't really right here but I got the vision lmfao||

[thin prairie]

Which clash games did magolor turn green again?

[austere willow]

all of them

[vocal latch]

Well, he doesn't appear in Team Kirby Clash

[clever zinc]

He does

[vocal latch]

No.

[clever zinc]

What

[fathom cradle]

team kirby clash is the robobot subgame

[vocal latch]

Team Kirby Clash Deluxe is the one he appears in

[fathom cradle]

that one has no hub lol

[clever zinc]

It has its own stand off game too

[vocal latch]

and Super Kirby Clash

[clever zinc]

Ohh

Sorry thought you were tlaking about tkcd

[novel fog]

finally found it, || this is the merch that has it (https://store-jp.nintendo.com/list/point-item/MNS_8_ANAAU.html)||

[vocal latch]

||https://twitter.com/nintendomerch/status/1623529832989483008?lang=de||

||Makes sense, My Nintendo Store Reward for the game.||

[bitter shard]

||Apollo’s gift of prophecy strikes again||

[vocal latch]

😭

[austere willow]

AJSDKDASJKASDJKJKSDAKJSDAJKSDKj

AASDSAASDASKDJJKASDKJSDAKJADSJKADSKJDASJKASDKJ

[vocal latch]

||Close enough lmfao||

[fathom cradle]

lol gigi and meowtactic when they reach ||the end of epilogue||

[vocal latch]

||oh god Klu 😭||

[fathom cradle]

https://vxtwitter.com/KingProclaimed/status/1629431670452649984

[vocal latch]

||when the jokes become REAL||

[fathom cradle]

also i was going to stop after trying item challenge ex but uh i got it first try lol

[fathom cradle]

|| ||

[austere willow]

honestly i dont think Klu was joking

[vocal latch]

||Nah I mean Klu noted that these were just jokes ||

[austere willow]

franizska von karma voice

Fool....

[vocal latch]

||When they ended up becoming a bit too close to the truth which is really funny and ironic ||😭

[vocal latch]

LOL

||I am so happy all these jokes became reality man||

[austere willow]

anyway

what do we call the genre of music that is

Secret Path Blowout Blast
Faded Dream of a Psycho Meddler
Green Winds Remix
Red Sands Remix
Blue Blizzard Remix

[vocal latch]

absolute hyper bangers

AHB

[austere willow]

whats it called in jp again

Battle for a New Tomorrow

New Battle For Tomorrow

which one

[vocal latch]

A Great Battle for Tomorrow

[austere willow]

A Great Battle for Tomorrow

[vocal latch]

We sure are fighting A Great Battle for Tomorrow

[austere willow]

also put Ordeal Doors in that list

Genre of Kirby Music that Slaps

A Great Battle for Tomorrow
Beginner Treasures
Dazzling Treasures
Forgo's Treasures
Faded Dream of a Psycho Meddler
Green Winds Remix
Ordeal Doors
Red Sands Remix
Blue Blizzard Remix

[ruby plaza]

Bro why did I waste time maxing out Magolor's entire skill tree

Twice

[austere willow]

oh cool

[vocal latch]

||bro acts like he's in Ace Attorney Investigations and can't name the main character||

[fleet prism]

||bro's already thinking on ways to beat up kirby what the hell||

[austere willow]

can you record every "LEVEL MAX" dailogue for us

screencap each skill's level max dialogue

[vocal latch]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-potter-news-paper-news-gif-14250886

[ruby plaza]

What did Marx or Gooey do to Magolor? 😥

Smh

[austere willow]

🤢 ari otter

[fleet prism]

||"with this fully upgraded vertical magic sphere I can finally forget about it and not use it in my next playable appearances!"||

[vocal latch]

oh yeah true

cringe gif

[fleet prism]

rip ari otter fans who enjoyed the series before the boycott

[austere willow]

if there's any i missed (Genre of Synth-heavy fast paced emotional/beat-heavy Kirby tracks)

feel free to add

[ruby plaza]

||Gem Apple|| Bruh Moment

[leaden terrace]

This is what ive been syaing!! this is such a unique new characterization of a long-existing character i just adore it

[austere willow]

||Ya thats the apple!||

[ruby plaza]

What does Extra mode do?

Do you just gotta beat the entire game again?

[austere willow]

its a harder Main Story

essentially

[ruby plaza]

[austere willow]

it has different music here and there

[leaden terrace]

BTW I'm pretty sure this is in a merch, i kinda forgot who asked it nor i could find the post (too lazy) so thats neat

[austere willow]

and some different optional dialogue

otherwise yeah its just Main Story 2 (Harder)

[vocal latch]

#1077968255232254092 message

[thin prairie]

Baro#8858 - #[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

||https://twitter.com/nintendomerch/status/1623529832989483008?lang=de||

Quoted by Baro#8858 • [352190357880045579] · Feb 25, 2023, 10:40 AM

[leaden terrace]

Yeah!!

[vocal latch]

we talked about it haha

[leaden terrace]

YEAH THAT

[austere willow]

(lying through his teeth)

(does he even have teeth)

[leaden terrace]

does he even have teeth

LMAO

[vast basin]

Lets find out

🔧

[austere willow]

all of us after seeing Magolor go to hell and learn ||absolutely fucking nothing and keeps being a bastard||

[leaden terrace]

||I hate him but I love him but I hate him but I love him||

[urban bluff]

his pause screen be like ||is this a journey of penance or revenge||

||penance my ass, he's financially rich now||

[leaden terrace]

||"What is it that you desire, egg? Was it to repent yourself, or was it to avenge yourself?"
"I want to get the fuck out of here"||

[vast basin]

||Its rags to riches, actually||

[austere willow]

Honestly if you like

combine the fact that ||Magolor has in fact, been alone in Halcandra for a long time||

and the track titled ||"Onwards to a Pain my Heart Knows Well"||

you could infer/headcanon that ||part of Magolor's ego problems is his loneliness during these periods||

[leaden terrace]

this is such an un-kirby song name btw

[austere willow]

he is lonely during ||Halcandra and the dimensional abyss||

[bitter shard]

It’s not the first

[austere willow]

yet still working hard to achieve his goals

[leaden terrace]

its not the first but i sure as hell didnt think ||"onwards to a pain my heart knows well"|| would be in the cards

thats so weirdly personal and kind of melancholic

[austere willow]

the ||pain his heart knows well... is lonesome hardwork. so he likes boosting his own morale by patting himself on the back. tricking other people and monsters as a way of feeling superior. bragging to others and to himself||

[leaden terrace]

and this plays in like the last area too

[austere willow]

oh no

[leaden terrace]

||Yeah, you can tell that despite having a bloated ego, he always seems to be working by himself. He probably doesnt feel he can truly be trusted the way he is so instead he embraces this flaw of him just so he can curb his feelings of loneliness in a way he feels is right in his mind||

[austere willow]

Magolor is fitting right in with my kins

with the description i just put out

not me feeling kinship with characters that are hardworking but are fuckin lonely

[leaden terrace]

HAL making the most relatable character ever???

with MAGOLOR of all people ??????

[ruby narwhal]

Oh hey, quick piece of speed play tech, if you press in the right stick to remove your mask while in the super ability transformation cutscene, you can skip it

[austere willow]

you can always skip that

?

[vocal latch]

pretty relatable yea

[austere willow]

press +

[leaden terrace]

ME TOO

||I also want to hear the screams of every living being in the universe||

[ruby narwhal]

oh… lmao

I never noticed

[leaden terrace]

BTW