[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

[vapid kestrel]

Oh has no one found that yet

[novel fog]

no one has posted English names no

[thin prairie]

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[novel fog]

we only have bit of the JP ones

[marble jungle]

||I think that's near official; the translation only lacked Magolor's verbal tic||

[thin prairie]

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[novel fog]

||because it is Epilogue||

[vapid kestrel]

The madlads really did it

[pliant socket]

the funny new record text is gone.....sad

[thin prairie]

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[vapid kestrel]

Under My Control's official name is ||Welcome Your New Overlord||

[novel fog]

oh nice

[vocal latch]

yes

YES

THEY ACTUALLY DID IT

[pliant socket]

YOOOO

WWWWWWWWWWW

W name

[lime acorn]

YO

[grave viper]

👀

[novel fog]

what is English name for ||Epilogue songs like Master Crown's theme||

[verbal rapids]

Wtf unplayable

[vocal latch]

||THEY RECOGNIZED IT||

[marble jungle]

OKAY!

[pliant socket]

fae did they bring back ||kirby master||

[vocal latch]

||I wonder if Kirby Master cutscene now takes place in Magoland lmfao||

[novel fog]

||and the Sword clash phase that has 'Pay for One's Sin!' in JP lol||

[pliant socket]

god i miss pophappiness

[thin prairie]

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[vapid kestrel]

||Judgment of the Malus Pumila
Hitting Rock Bottom
Raindrops Falling down My Face
Green Winds Remix
Red Sands Remix
Blue Blizzard Remix
Onward to a Pain My Heart Knows Well
Ordeal Doors
Found a Fruit Fragment!
Interdimensional Traveler
Drum Dash Deluxe: C-R-O-W-N-E-D
VS Darpa-Dippa-Dupas
Hot! Elemental Boss Battle
VS Flock of Doomers
Another Domination
Mistilteinn, Tree Crown without a Ruler
Settling a Score - Atone for One's Misdeeds!
Crossing into the Parallel with You||

[novel fog]

||I think JP name for VS Darpa-Dippa-Dupas is VS. ラパリパルパース lol||

[lime acorn]

Same lol

[novel fog]

||also just 'Atone for One's Misdeeds!' lame lol||

[vocal latch]

||Oh hell nah the dashes returned||

[maiden crane]

||Is "Mistilteinn" the crown boss theme?||

[vapid kestrel]

yes

[novel fog]

||there's ~ in JP lol||

[maiden crane]

||also "Onward to a pain my heart knows well", christ||

[marble jungle]

||AND YOU! WILL! ATONE!!|| -- Ned Beatty as Arthur Jensen, "Network" (1976)

[vapid kestrel]

I just copied all the ||AKMAHO|| songs here

[novel fog]

||well it's 王亡き樹冠のミストルティン in JP||

but yes

[vapid kestrel]

Pretty sure they mean the dashes in CROWNED's English name

[vocal latch]

||NOOOOO you mean they have it as C~R~O~W~N~E~D? I thought they just use it for transition things or whatever (like Drum Dash~CROWNED)||

[novel fog]

oh lol

[vocal latch]

yea

[pliant socket]

a for effort i guess

[novel fog]

idk what that one is in JP, probably same as past games

[topaz wren]

||I'll give em this and say the names are pretty good||

||I don't think I prefer original over localization in a lot of these||

[novel fog]

||idk why they formatted English one weirdly lol||

[fathom cradle]

https://twitter.com/KingProclaimed/status/1628953145236942850

SelfProclaimedKing (@KingProclaimed)

i have not left world 1 #Kirby #KirbysReturntoDreamLandDeluxe #NintendoSwitch

Twitter · Feb 24, 2023, 3:01 AM

[novel fog]

||I mean we haven't compared most of them yet||

[fathom cradle]

i can finally start playing the main campaign 😭

[novel fog]

||but they did better than expected at least||

[topaz wren]

||Let's see if they can keep that track record lol||

[maiden crane]

You were doing magoland shit this entire time????

[novel fog]

btw do you have JP equivalents, to compare them better

[fathom cradle]

i had a gap of like 5-6 hours where i wasn't playing

but otherwise yes

[safe egret]

Wait can you show us all of the masks so far

[fathom cradle]

yea i was going to do that

give me a sec

[obtuse vessel]

So does magoland take place in another dimension (try not to spoil any major story details)

[pliant socket]

THEY REMOVED THE STAR FADEOUT NOOOOOOOOOO

[austere willow]

Q

[vocal latch]

It's a bit weird

[novel fog]

really could just paste them all in doc or something

[austere willow]

THEY NAMED THE RUPAS DUPAS

?????????????

[vocal latch]

LOL

[vapid kestrel]

||断罪のマルスプミラ
堕チテ、ハルかドンゾコ二…
頬ツタウ雨
翠の風のリミックス
紅の熱砂のリミックス
蒼の零度のリミックス
知ル喪失ノ航海ヘ
トライアルドアーズ
かじつのカケラダヨォ！
異空ヲカケル旅人
CROWNED（デデデ大王のデデデでデンZ）
VS. ラパリパルパーズ
激熱！エレメンタルボスバトル
VS. 群れ成すローパーズ
Another Domination
王亡き樹冠のミストルティン
アトシマツ ～Pay For One's Sin！～
あのパラレルを超えて、キミと
||

[obtuse vessel]

I don’t know I just saw this image Clay posted and I’m scared it takes place in the Kirby clash universe

[austere willow]

this is such a weird preface lmao

[thin prairie]

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[novel fog]

this isn't all of them btw

like there's ||ココロ知ル喪失ノ航海へ missing||

[junior mesa]

0/10 remake confirmed

[lilac arch]

probs still gonna call the track by Under My Control since I'm so used to it, but that isn't a bad alt

[hasty yoke]

Did it not have an offficial name before?

[fathom cradle]

All masks available before beating cookie country

[lilac arch]

Not in english

[hasty yoke]

ah so only fan translations

[urban beacon]

Before beating cookie country?

What do you mean by that

[novel fog]

||don't know what song this is (True Arena theme I'm guessing), sounds like Dangerous Dinner but it's called 高きデンジャラスなファイナルへ (something like 'To the Very Dangerous Finale')||

[fathom cradle]

you unlock magoland after 1-2

[urban beacon]

Ah

[fathom cradle]

you can get all these masks before continuing the story

[marsh patrol]

What’s Dangerous Dinner 3’s hell theme called

[urban beacon]

What about the huge section of masks not there

[late forge]

||Need to hear Magolor Soul 2's theme. Apparently there's chanting?||

[marsh patrol]

Think those are bosses. Including EX

[thin prairie]

RUINED

[fathom cradle]

they're unlocked ||after you beat each main boss in the story and extra mode||

[urban beacon]

Ah ok

[maiden crane]

that whole section is ||rtdl masks aint it||

[fathom cradle]

i just got the ||whispy|| mask lol

[thin prairie]

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[fathom cradle]

||and he's in magoland now||

[thin prairie]

Clayn

[thin prairie]

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[vocal latch]

||I KNEW IT'S GONNA HAVE THE CLONE EYE AND BE CLONE YOOOO||

[thin prairie]

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[austere willow]

me hwen im N pokemon

[vocal latch]

fuck i added a line

adeleine

[austere willow]

IM SORRY THEY PUT CLONE BUT NOT THE OG?

[pliant socket]

i mean, it was probably the easiest thing to just use the clone model instead

[late forge]

||Lor Soul might now be the hardest in the series.||

[vocal latch]

||Does Nightmare Mask also have the anime/Parallel Nightmare voice?||

||I heard only the Kirby's Adventure sound||

[fathom cradle]

it's just ||adventure sounds||

crunchy ass noises lol

[thin prairie]

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[prime belfry]

||SECTONIA (normal) MASK?!?!?||

[austere willow]

why is this tdx version ?>? ? ?

[late forge]

Last time it appeared

[prime belfry]

I like how natural the masks look in the characters

[pliant socket]

yeah ^

[thin prairie]

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[burnt slate]

just realized dark mirror dmk is meant to be the clones he makes for his mirror moves in SA

[prime belfry]

Doesn't look to forced and is a neat way to go through levels

[junior mesa]

[novel fog]

yeah, they have move name in mask name (in JP at least)

[pliant socket]

erm it has a back part so it technically would be hard to make it into a mask

[thin prairie]

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[junior mesa]

erm you could just remove the back part

[novel fog]

||we already have Whispy mask what do you mean||

||2 of them, in fact||

[vagrant cave]

what time does the game release est

[late forge]

||we have 2||

[vocal latch]

||Maybe they meant the baby Whispys?||

[pliant socket]

ok fair you have outnerded me

[novel fog]

||but still, he isn't Dream Friend (or Elfilin) so lol||

[steel elk]

||Did anyone beat Magolor Soul 2: Electric Boogaloo yet?||

[pliant socket]

they literally just replaced the ability icon textures on the wall...they look really uncanny now

[thin prairie]

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[vapid kestrel]

This is the best thing ever

[novel fog]

||yeah, though only on emulator||

||haven't seen fight on console yet||

[late forge]

||Whispy and Whispy EX for beating the bosses||

[vagrant cave]

what time does the game release EST

[vocal latch]

TRUE

[vapid kestrel]

Gonna be honest I thought the right side was the one that was supposed to be uncanny before I noticed it was the og

[vocal latch]

yea lol

[urban bluff]

💀 so that's what it was

[thin prairie]

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[novel fog]

||well yeah that's before Whispy lol||

[pliant socket]

new 100% banner

[thin prairie]

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[urban bluff]

ah bandee in the middle

it's what he deserves

[thin prairie]

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[pliant socket]

og for comparision btw

[novel fog]

||also god, JP streamer is really struggling with True Arena, is it that hard?||

[pliant socket]

||same it looks awkward lol||

[junior mesa]

which streamer

[maiden crane]

the new one has the main 4 together therefore it is far better

[novel fog]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuhfSRIqWwU||

[wheat kettle]

Link pls?

[novel fog]

||this is like third attempt lol||

[pliant socket]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuhfSRIqWwU ||

[vocal latch]

||Peace sign erasure smh (I know it's far more annoying to model)||

[grave viper]

t||hey also switch abilities frequently which may be contributing to it||

[vagrant cave]

goku Is the final boss

[novel fog]

true

[junior mesa]

thank you

[urban bluff]

the attack are really hard. also the ||flip screen + super abilities are really brutal. I don't think I have seen anyone dodge his ice hammer while upside down||

[grave viper]

the t escaped the spoiler bars...

[marble jungle]

||It's silver. Does that mean EX mode will be gold and complete save will be rainbow platinum?||

[wheat kettle]

Plus flipped controls

[hasty yoke]

the sequel to vegeta in KF2

[junior mesa]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/837835616279461929/964657749826887770/caption.gif

[novel fog]

||they haven't even got to there lol||

[thin prairie]

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[pliant socket]

||i mean thats how the og was so||

[urban bluff]

||i mean, in first phase the attacks are also faster and like, completely throw you off if you are familiar with soul's pattern||

[novel fog]

||no, I mean to Magolor in general||

[urban bluff]

o then idk

[novel fog]

||he's gotten pretty far but not to like Magolor EX or Galacta or anything like that lol||

[signal elm]

Can someone upload a video of all the masks

[wheat kettle]

Theres voice clips of magolor and different choir

[lilac arch]

||Did they change Galacta in any way from the og fight?||

[junior mesa]

||yeah, only having the 3 m tomatoes sounds brutal for 21 bosses||

[hasty yoke]

don't think so

[junior mesa]

||looks like slightly more hp + his laser circle attack has the fire ground at the end||

[vocal latch]

||WAIT 21???||

[junior mesa]

yes

literally ||21 total||

[urban beacon]

||Btw the areas in ME spell out apple||

[wheat kettle]

skc reference

[vocal latch]

||EPILOGUE BOSSES ARE IN???||

[novel fog]

||plus can't practice Epilogue bosses with Kirby anywhere else, and you have to beat EX ones first||

[junior mesa]

||YES||

[vocal latch]

||YESSSSSSS||

[novel fog]

you didn't see?

[vocal latch]

||Nah, I only saw Magolor Soul Phase 2||

[marble jungle]

So, to clear up some confusion
Is Merry Magoland not bound to any save file?
Do the Magoland minigames in the Magoland mode and the story mode (accessed in the Starcutter) tally up differently?

[vocal latch]

||WHAT A DREAM||

[junior mesa]

||BATTLE||

‼️

[pliant socket]

magoland is save file dependent
they don't tally up differently, they are completely the same

[urban bluff]

it's actually a nightmare

21 battle, one super beefed up boss, 3 maxim tomatoes

[grave viper]

||i think the deluxe true arena may easily take the throne of hardest true arena/true arena equivalent||

[kindred smelt]

Ninja fans stay winning

[novel fog]

||oh, someone was streaming it earlier if you wanna check near end of https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1746722750 for that, there's also someone streaming it now too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuhfSRIqWwU||

[thin prairie]

poor little vine

Canyon model from GCN is the same as it was in RTDL with MRA and Normals

[marble jungle]

So is the availability of each minigame in Magoland bound to your collection of Energy Spheres?

[novel fog]

no

[austere willow]

iirc no

[novel fog]

||but they are bound to Spheres in Lor||

[urban beacon]

no i thought it was tickets

[pliant socket]

my eyes are burning

[marble jungle]

(Huh)

[viral wharf]

light mode?

[pliant socket]

i switched it on for a sec to get something

[viral wharf]

smh

[gilded sequoia]

I just watched Faye’s ||magolor soul|| video and
I feel speechless

[pliant socket]

WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON ‼️

[vocal latch]

hey thats me

[copper hawk]

Augh so hungry for Kirby

[novel fog]

no you have one ! instead of two

[urban beacon]

Can you send it? Cant find it

[burnt marsh]

They look really… what?

[pliant socket]

no.

NO

[burnt marsh]

Trollface

[urban beacon]

STOOO-

[pliant socket]

[vagrant cave]

NO

NO

NO

NO

[urban beacon]

Can someone send the magolor soul video

[gilded sequoia]

oops hold on a moment I’m fumbling

[burnt marsh]

Im surprised it’s not pinned yet

[urban beacon]

no worries

[vocal latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/195706171762540544/1063629862247600158/kirby_becoming.mp4

[marble jungle]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L29AwfwXh70|| It's choppy (bad capture card or weak computer GPU?)

[gilded sequoia]

okay yeah that link works better

[urban beacon]

||He has guns now||

[austere willow]

girl the cursor is right there

RtDL Dx is too strongk

[urban beacon]

This is likely the hardest arena yet

[lilac arch]

Surprised it isn't pinned

[urban beacon]

||Also i wasnt a big fan of it but now i am, i like how magolor soul loses his eyes||

[austere willow]

ya but Ultimate Choice is still brutal but gets away by not being named Arena

[marble jungle]

Hey, I'm not assuming it's emulated or anything

[vocal latch]

wait so is there any gameplay of Helper Magolor in Main Mode Magolor battle

[urban beacon]

||Makes the creepy eye look even scarier||

[novel fog]

I mean it is on emulator

[vocal latch]

like when you get damaged & whatnot

[novel fog]

we haven't seen full fight on console yet lol

[urban beacon]

||Did magolor soul crowned get recomposed? Yoooo||

[novel fog]

not that I've seen

[faint galleon]

Oh the sand guy hasn't beaten it yet?

[austere willow]

it was mixed better

[urban beacon]

God sorry i keep forgetting

[pliant socket]

yeeeesh

[grave viper]

i wanna see ||unfair magolor soul but its the deluxe true arena one||

[urban beacon]

Ah

[novel fog]

that guy stopped streaming unfortunately
hoping other guy gets to it

[austere willow]

||Unless you mean the True Arena version, in which case its a remastered version of the Morpho Magolor KSA theme thing||

[vocal latch]

||Why does Puffer always get the most brutal death animation lmfao||

[austere willow]

because hes stupid

[lilac arch]

It'd be really funny if Magolor helped Kirby defeat himself, but I'm assuming it gets turned off for the fight

[vocal latch]

||Wait do we have an official translation of Star Allies CROWNED medley technically||

[burnt marsh]

It’s releasing midnight on the dot in America right

[marble jungle]

Joins the chunky PyRibbit I guess (I'm sure someone's gonna make a Python project based on this name)

[vocal latch]

||Or is the name for the True Arena version different in JP||

[austere willow]

not yet i dont think

tag faye (?)

[novel fog]

haven't seen name for either yet of course

||it might be different since it was rearranged a bit, right?||

||though they've given unique names to songs just taken from past games before||

[vocal latch]

@vapid kestrel ||hey, does 覇王戴冠 ～OVERLORD～ have a different name in the True Arena remix? And do also you have the English name of it?||

[marble jungle]

The detail is roughly ummm...
||It's the same instrument and melody as in Star Allies, but with some distorted ambience behind it once phase 3 hits||

[novel fog]

I don't think she's up now unfortunately

[burnt marsh]

Wait so

I just looked it up

It’s not coming out till noon tomorrow?

[novel fog]

||isn't there more they did to it||

[austere willow]

its coming in 1 hour 6 min for America iir

c

[honest ibex]

||Is there any video uploaded for GK’s boss fight yet||

[novel fog]

what's coming out? it's already out everywhere but America (where it is coming out in an hour)

[burnt marsh]

Ok cool

[burnt marsh]

Oh ok

I read somewhere that the game won’t release till noon in America

But it may just be an average game release prediction

[novel fog]

||there's near end of https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1746722750 if you wanna see||

[lofty condor]

Don’t say that again

[novel fog]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuhfSRIqWwU also this guy is at HR-D3 now, hopefully they get to Soul?||

[vocal latch]

better pic

||wait were his eyes always open inside the crystal???||

[pliant socket]

||They were blank i think||

[novel fog]

||no||

[faint galleon]

Petition to call ||True Arena Magolor Soul as Magolor SEX (Soul EX)||

[safe egret]

Well that's a bit scummy

WHY NOON

[novel fog]

||they're at Galacta now||

[vocal latch]

||DeepL GK||

[faint galleon]

No it releases in 1 hour

[novel fog]

oh btw I posted most JP descriptions here if you want them, searching 'JP description' should bring most of them up

[burnt marsh]

i was mistaken

dw

[safe egret]

Ohh oops

Sort of strange that they are releasing the game in a hour instead of in 2 hours

The earlier the better

[novel fog]

well 12 EST is in one hour

[gilded sequoia]

wait when did ||galacta have like a casual walk animation lmao did I just never notice that before||

[novel fog]

||since original RTDL I think? idk if it was in any of the others||

[faint galleon]

||He had it in normal RTDL too||

[thin prairie]

also here

[novel fog]

||and Master Crown now 👀||

[faint galleon]

He's doing it no ability

The madman

[novel fog]

yeah

[junior mesa]

looks like its working for him

[pliant socket]

||whats poppin yall its ya boi civilizationslayer421 back with another video||

[novel fog]

||you can just Super Inhale the bomb lol||

[bitter shard]

Tilde pog

[novel fog]

||SOUL TIME||

[marble jungle]

||DAMN Kirby just directly spit to its face!||

[junior mesa]

so true

[novel fog]

JP Description for ||Magolor Soul in True Arena||

[faint galleon]

Lore read

[novel fog]

||Black Hole is rough wow||

[faint galleon]

He got fooled by the black holes

[gilded sequoia]

hooo

[faint galleon]

||This boss is meant to FUCK WITH YOU the first time||

RIP

[hasty yoke]

rip him

[wheat kettle]

Rip

[hasty yoke]

||yeah it's designed to throw you off||

[kindred smelt]

The laser bullet hell got him

[novel fog]

||well at least we got one of the JP descriptions lol||

||didn't even get to 2nd phase||

[burnt moth]

||So is the first phase of the true final boss the same or is it harder?||

[novel fog]

||harder||

[faint galleon]

||The entire boss is just on crack||

[burnt moth]

||Yeah, figured||

[wheat kettle]

Magolor Soul's Soul

[burnt moth]

||Because I do NOT remember the OG being that hard||

[kindred smelt]

||The first phase alone is contender for hardest boss in the series||

[faint galleon]

||Magolor Soul EX (SEX)||

[grave viper]

||super magolor soul vs chaos elfilis death battle||

[hasty yoke]

||When we getting Unfairer Magolor though||

[novel fog]

||JP version specifically uses ローレルリース 'loral wreath' instead of just 'wreath'||

[kindred smelt]

Revenge of dreamland deluxe about to be real interesting

[novel fog]

||note JP description of Master Crown does not use wreath iirc||

[junior mesa]

DeepL's take on this

at least at a glance it doesn't look too different

[novel fog]

||using 啜り? very Morpho like||

[thin prairie]

||theory on the origin of the master crown: it was a crown built by the ancients to give the wearer infinite power, as described in the descriptions it was passed down to different rulers and slowly over time their obsession and hatred accumulated in the crown. At some point the negative energy of the crown overtook the ancients control and led to the downfall of Halcandra and maybe even the Ancients themselves.||

[novel fog]

||also JP one seems to specifically say it continues to do it||

[pliant socket]

||spoiler alert: i live here||

[novel fog]

||and another use of 支配の冠||

[pliant socket]

||mps city reveal JUMPSCARE (you'll never know where i actually live)||

[wheat kettle]

Soul Energy Converter be like

[vocal latch]

||>even eats away at the ego
STAR DREAM NO WAY||

[kindred smelt]

||They stole the bisexual dimension from revenge of dreamland smh||

[junior mesa]

wrong. check your closet.

[thin prairie]

Can someone link the descriptions doc again?

[pliant socket]

Uhhhhhh

[vocal latch]

||https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kXu7_JbpaqUUbd3B5Mhhljdc7g4FYONxjKGKeDwsI-s/edit?usp=sharing||

[unreal stag]

||kinda interesting that it describes the master crown as a laurel wreath||

||laurel wreaths were used by the greeks to symbolize victory, and roman emperors used them to convey importance and godly status||

[junior mesa]

I am inside of your blue shell.

[urban beacon]

30 minutes till american release

[junior mesa]

timezone moment

[urban beacon]

TRUE

I hate timezones tbh but theyre a neccesary evil

[novel fog]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuhfSRIqWwU JP streamer is back at Master Crown, more Magolor Soul stuff soon probably||

[junior mesa]

i told him that we're watching lol

[novel fog]

||Soul time again||

[pliant socket]

its time

[grave viper]

half health + no backup tomato, hoo boy

[pliant socket]

yep

[urban beacon]

Looks menacing

[novel fog]

||oh btw seems like you can bring Souvenir Items into True Arena lol||

[urban beacon]

Aw man they got hit

[faint galleon]

He got hit by laser it's over

[urban beacon]

Aw

Gg

[pliant socket]

its joeover....

[novel fog]

||2nd phase time||

[faint galleon]

He got to phase 2

[pliant socket]

ITS NOT JOEOVER

[novel fog]

JP description of ||Soul phase 2||

[pliant socket]

||its the first person desc||

[faint galleon]

They're FLABBERGASTED

[urban beacon]

Oof

Last hit

[pliant socket]

ITS JOEOVER

[vocal latch]

||lmfao deepl||

[gilded sequoia]

dawww

[novel fog]

rip

[left bronze]

death

[urban beacon]

Gg

[hasty yoke]

it's joever

[urban beacon]

Kirby gets sent to cave-hell

[pliant socket]

wait forgot to spoil

its joever....

[urban beacon]

Souvenir mask shop at the arena, really?

[junior mesa]

man, i can't wait to play this game
literally earned its deluxe title so hard

[urban beacon]

Yep

[vocal latch]

||Does Magolor Soul's area only vary in True Arena?||

[junior mesa]

||i think so...? can't confirm personally||

[faint galleon]

Yes

[novel fog]

||yeah, Extra Mode just has it blue like normal||

[urban beacon]

Woo! 10 minutes

[junior mesa]

me when the

[vocal latch]

||same energyhttps://twitter.com/Kirby_JP/status/1456516723234926596||

[pliant socket]

i have to wait until tomorrow or sunday for it I think, i have the money tho

[urban beacon]

Possibly 16 cuz it takes on average 6 minutes after midnight

[junior mesa]

ordered to be shipped?

[vocal latch]

||legit it feels like a combo of both of these concept arts & the OG area lmfao||

[novel fog]

just to show

[vocal latch]

Nice

[urban beacon]

He looks depressed but happy

[junior mesa]

no he's simply chillin

[urban beacon]

Yeah true

[kindred smelt]

Imagine if true arena had half health like extra 💀

[urban beacon]

16

[vocal latch]

||OH MAGOLOR IN ARENAS WILL PROBS BE AN UNLOCKABLE RIGHT||

[novel fog]

||we don't know yet||

[hollow cypress]

Mago souls true arena icon actually looks menacing now. The original icon always looked kinda silly to me because for some reason they chose to have the eye mouth, the signature and most menacing feature of mago soul be closed so it kinda just looks like "= )"

[urban beacon]

=)) looks more like that

[novel fog]

||English version only mentioned King Dedede and Bandana Waddle Dee after clearing True Arena at least||

[urban beacon]

Bye bye whispy

14 left

[pliant socket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920498813150593034/1078539833535909919/caption.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/920498813150593034/958181196137918525/YePxrQJr.gif

personally i like the og more but they both look good

[junior mesa]

still kinda bummed that Magolor's boss model in Let Me Explain Everything looks so stiff

[hollow cypress]

I like how the new one makes his eyes go small

[unreal stag]

big kdl1 shock energy

[hollow cypress]

[vocal latch]

Same

[urban beacon]

Kirby rtdl profile icon elements avaliable now

[grave viper]

the solution to the stiff model is to have him t pose on the gang

[marble jungle]

(They didn't change the animation skeleton so to speak...)

[pliant socket]

they probably only had to modify dedede's

[urban bluff]

btw

nintendo jp just put up 3 videos for sand, mecha and abilities in final battle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zBMM5SRRZw I wonder

[urban beacon]

Game is out for american people, have fun!

Itll be about 6 minutes for yhe server to be up to date

[urban bluff]

lol

[vocal latch]

||To be honest, I'm glad we don't actually see Kirby and friends' reaction to Magolor coming back. I like the openness of how they'd react lol||

[junior mesa]

because a guide was necessary for playing kirby

[unreal stag]

there's also the implication that ||it's gonna take a while before they meet again||

[novel fog]

||and at Master Crown again||

[junior mesa]

oh, that's another difference in ||GK||
||way more spears than og lol||

[novel fog]

||how many is it this time||

[junior mesa]

||30||

[novel fog]

||what was Clash's? 25?||

[junior mesa]

i don't remember lol

[austere willow]

Wow just like Kirby's births day

[novel fog]

||and streamer is at Magolor Soul again||

[vocal latch]

||Super Kirby Clash's was 25, yeah.||

[safe egret]

|| How do you get the Kirby mask on magoland ||

[novel fog]

||just Stamp Rally||

[bitter shard]

||Is the Master Crown song title suppose to be referring to Mistleteinn?||

[novel fog]

||yeah, like mistletoe||

[junior mesa]

||the JP streamer is doing really well on soul so far||

[novel fog]

||as it is called (like) a parasitic plant in its description||

[hasty yoke]

gaming

[bitter shard]

||The sword appears in like every other fantasy game||

[novel fog]

||idk if it's supposed to be the sword, but the name could be interpreted like that||

[bitter shard]

||Alternative theory: Mistleteinn just sound twice as cool||

[novel fog]

||YO THEY BEAT IT WITHOUT ABILITIES||

[junior mesa]

||HE DID IT!!!||

[hasty yoke]

gamer

[safe egret]

|| how do you unlock magoland ||

[novel fog]

||just after first few stages||

[junior mesa]

||so im not sure that this TA is necessarily harder than SMEX, but it still looks tough
which is still cool||

[novel fog]

||no Meta Knight even in JP one lol||

[junior mesa]

you screenshot very fast lol

[novel fog]

wtf

[safe egret]

|| after what stage specifically ||

[novel fog]

idk which

||just sometime in Cookie Country||

[fathom cradle]

it's after 1-2

[novel fog]

||and think this song name is same as Star Allies||

[unreal stag]

what's this for

[remote leaf]

Hehehehe…

[novel fog]

||Magolor Soul (True Arena) death sounds I think||

||also think this is for rest area before fight?||

[junior mesa]

Inner struggle reall!!!!!

[vocal latch]

It is.

[novel fog]

||which song is this? don't recognize it but sounds familiar||

||oh is that Fighters 2 Dedede and Meta Knight||

[wheat kettle]

Moon Warriors

[novel fog]

||there's also 黄色く輝く遥かな星よ (something like 'Faraway stars shining yellow'), is that simple credits theme?||

[pliant socket]

||even after all of this....we have still yet to see the kirby master video||

[novel fog]

||also did we ever hear where Robobot Galacta is used?||

[urban bluff]

not ||true arena galacta fight, for sure||

[wheat kettle]

||So the master crown consumes the wearer's soul in exchange for power if its used? Maybe landia doesnt nullify it, but rather is wise enough not to use its power and hence avoiding corruption||

[novel fog]

yeah, weird
||where is it used??||

||because it is even in sound test||

[wheat kettle]

Moon Warriors wasnt used im pretty sure

[novel fog]

||it's also in sound test for some reason||

[vocal latch]

||Wait is Meta Knight only unlocked after doing Dedede & Bandee or what||

[novel fog]

||idk???||

[wheat kettle]

So maybe they just kept it there as an alternative possibility for people to hear

[burnt slate]

does any1 have the jp desc of ||TA magolor soul?||

[wheat kettle]

Yes scroll up

I saw it earlier

[burnt slate]

i mean the text itself to copy

[novel fog]

nope

[wheat kettle]

The guy translated it

[novel fog]

but we have images at least

[lime acorn]

||Someone pin RTDX True Arena footage||

[junior mesa]

||we may not have gotten a full remixed ost but damn the epilogue remixes are bangers||
||https://youtu.be/ZDDaN0v_ULg||

[safe egret]

|| imagine modders actually modded in the other characters from star allies ||

[vocal latch]

||VS　マホロア　ソウル
隻眼のローレルリースは食いこみ続け・・・
力と引きかえに　したたる　ソウルを取り続け・・・
自我さえうばう、 まさに　支配の冠だった。
いまわしい　この悪夢から　彼を解き放ち、
また　手をつなぎ、 友達に・・・　なっちゃおう！

VS　マホロア　ソウル
カービィ、ボクは　キミが　ニガテ　ダナァ。
ダマサレたって、キョトンと　しちゃってサア。
何度モ　キミに　タヨルのは　しゃくダケド··· もう、イイヤ。
星のカービィ。 早くサア、頭のコレ　ブッコワシテヨ。
そしたらマタ、クックック・・・　カラかってヤルヨオ！||

[junior mesa]

might actually be possible, depends on how much the game's engine is based off SA's & how much work would need to be done

[burnt slate]

cool, thx

[junior mesa]

||this theme goes hard literally
https://youtu.be/rFEXClefx44 ||

[lime acorn]

||Never seen these songs before. Althought the Overlord one, pretty sure it's from Star Allies with a few tweaks ig, dunno what these songs used for. Apparently they're related to True Arena
Inward Struggle is scary tho
https://youtu.be/4DfFYVmL2sI
https://youtu.be/pNOfN8ziZfQ||

||Oh yeah||

||The title||

[wheat kettle]

Yep, overlord has a new choir and magolor's voiceclips interspersed after 4 minutes

[lime acorn]

||It explicitly said "True Arena" lol||

[junior mesa]

||yeah it's the new soul theme + pre-fight theme||

[safe egret]

The game's engine might be a mix between of forgotten land and star allies engine. Theoretically speaking, it might be even possible

[lime acorn]

||👁️||

[junior mesa]

fear

[novel fog]

||oh god can hear the Magolor voice so much more clearly now||

[wheat kettle]

The question is if hes actually saying something

[lime acorn]

||No way, EyeMouthYarou (aka EyeMouthBastard)||

[wheat kettle]

If u collate all of them maybe it adds up to something

Idk how to do that tho

[junior mesa]

didn't mean to send that, thought i sent an unspoilered spoiler gif for a second-

[strong seal]

any big finds since we saw ||magsoul phase 2||?

[bitter shard]

||I wonder if 樹冠 might be better translated as canopy for conciseness, though it might lose the crown connection ||

[junior mesa]

afaik no
other than ||i guess his death animation(?)||

[novel fog]

and some song names

[lime acorn]

||SINCE WHEN DID HE PULL TWO LASERS AT ONCE OUT OF HIS ASS||

[burnt moth]

||Eeeeyup||

[novel fog]

||lol welcome to True Arena fight||

[burnt moth]

||From my understanding, you're only options there are to crouch or die||

[sonic meadow]

||https://youtu.be/FLuaw-ocFh0||

||Mistilteinn?||

[novel fog]

||and already saw someone do it on console without abilities||

[novel fog]

||like mistletoe||

[sonic meadow]

:0

[bitter shard]

||That’s a typo||

[sonic meadow]

Oh I know what it is, I'm just wondering where they got it from

[novel fog]

||Master Crown is described as being (like) a parasitic plant||

[novel fog]

||what is?||

[bitter shard]

||Mistleteinn||

[novel fog]

||no it isn't||

[lusty geyser]

I don't think so

[novel fog]

||https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistilteinn||

[lusty geyser]

||I tried it with Mistilsteinn and it redirected me back||

[bitter shard]

||Wait my bad I got it mixed up||

[novel fog]

||and that is actual English name too||

[sonic meadow]

||Anyways True Arena footage? 🥺||

[lusty geyser]

||Wait... it says it was the name of a sword?||

||And there's a sword in the ending... I see||

[novel fog]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuhfSRIqWwU this guy beat it, see near end of stream||

||well they did it for most of stream, but if you want to see successful attempt||

[opaque flare]

||Damn the eyes are gone||

[lime acorn]

||HE ACTUALLY HAS A SECOND PHASE, WHERE HE HAS NO EYES AND ONLY HIS EYE-MOUTH THING IS PRESENT||

[wheat kettle]

||Soul Matter/Energy = Power to open portals?||

[opaque flare]

||Is the second phase even that cool?||

[lime acorn]

||And by "second phase" I mean Magolor soul's actual boss fight, which means I excluded Magolor EX. If I include Magolor EX then it would be the third phase||

||ALSO DID HAL JUST BUFFED MAGOLOR SOUL||

||IF YES THEN IT MIGHT EXPLAIN THE TWO LASERS||

[wheat kettle]

||the master crown tree is weaker than magolor and magolor soul because it has no soul to leech energy off of?||

[bitter shard]

||I have to say I’m slightly disappointed that the arena didn’t have a Ex equivalent of Master Crown as the secret boss, I guess Magolor Soul already has that slot but still||

[lime acorn]

||TA Magolor Soul makes me. What. It makes me flabbergasted, it got buffed, and got two new pause screen descs||

[acoustic crescent]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DfFYVmL2sI&ab_channel=B-cah
mago soul theme||

someone extended it :o

[opaque flare]

||Is Galacta Knight different.||

[wheat kettle]

No

[vocal latch]

||Wait so when tf does KPR GK theme play what||

[torpid field]

||Still find it pretty interesting that Magolor like talks through the whole mago soul theme||

[wheat kettle]

Doesnt

[novel fog]

||well EX is separate here||

||Galacta and Crown are inbetween its fight||

[novel fog]

||well it's in sound test so probably used somewhere||

||same with Fighters 2 Masked Dedede and Meta||

||they're grouped with True Arena songs btw||

[wheat kettle]

i watched the true arena stream

[sonic meadow]

Ok thanks

[novel fog]

||yes? what does that prove?||

[sonic meadow]

I'll watch it when I actually have a good internet

[wheat kettle]

the moon warriors thing doesnt appear

[novel fog]

||so? could be somewhere else?||

||like it is clearly in the game||

[wheat kettle]

didnt star allies have a bunch of unused songs too?

[novel fog]

not in jukebox

nor any other modern game

[wheat kettle]

hm ok fair point

[vocal latch]

||Maybe they play when you fight True Arena as Magolor????||

[novel fog]

||maybe? I mean if MK is really locked too then something is up||

||has anyone checked to see if he's locked or if message is just wrong||

[vocal latch]

||OH KPR version might play when you fight him as Meta Knight||

[leaden terrace]

hi guys i just woke up i was kinda sick what happened

[novel fog]

||that would make sense||

[leaden terrace]

anything new?

[wheat kettle]

true arena characters are locked?

[novel fog]

did you see ||True Arena stuff||

[wheat kettle]

wut

[bitter shard]

Song Names?

[novel fog]

||message for beating True Arena does not include MK, but has Bandana Waddle Dee and King Dedede||

[hybrid hornet]

||this is very small, but i found out that there are a LOT new rock formations that kirby can do with the rock ability

like, i saw one referencing forgotten land and one referencing dream buffet||

[vocal latch]

||I swear if Arena songs are based on chars now I'd die lmfao||

[novel fog]

||lol I mean Star Allies technically did it||

[vocal latch]

||true||

[vast basin]

Is this trackname official?

Surely not

[novel fog]

||it is||

[leaden terrace]

Wait did we finally have true arena???

does anyone have link

[novel fog]

||JP one is similar, 王亡き樹冠のミストルティン||

[leaden jacinth]

JP translation tho
Waiting for localized name

[novel fog]

no that is localized name

[leaden jacinth]

Wait ooh
🤦‍♂️

[novel fog]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuhfSRIqWwU they beat it, successful attempt is near the end||

[leaden terrace]

COOL

im gonna watch it

[thin prairie]

does magolor soul have anything new in the true arena

[novel fog]

||yes, entire new fight||

[wheat kettle]

it becomes hell

[leaden terrace]

KNEW IT

[vocal latch]

||New background too.||

[thin prairie]

cool

do we have song titles now

[bitter shard]

Yes

[thin prairie]

cool

[vast basin]

You know, ||Mistleteinn is actually the name of a sword ||

So maybe|| its Magolor’s sword ||

[thin prairie]

do we have pictures of masks and the sound effects they make

[novel fog]

||it also means mistletoe, idk if it is referring to sword at all here though||

[wheat kettle]

||could be multiple meanings||

[novel fog]

||yeah, I just mean as actual name of sword||

[wheat kettle]

would be a hal thing to do

[jolly valve]

||What did I miss since Magolor Soul's second phase got peaked here lmao||

[leaden terrace]

||if its named mistletoe then... who's under the mistletoe!?!?||

[thin prairie]

is there a playlist of the soundtrack

i cant find one

[novel fog]

||since it seems to be saying it is of the crown here||

[grave viper]

i know that name mainly because of fire emblem lmao

[wheat kettle]

||did u guys notice when landia turns purple the master crown changes in size and gem color changes||

[vast basin]

||Mistletoes exist outside of Christmas traditions you know||

[wheat kettle]

in RTDL the crown only changes gem color

[vast basin]

||the sword predates the custom||

[novel fog]

||I know||

||I never mentioned anything about Christmas lmao||

[hollow cypress]

||Wild. If one showed me magolor souls TA move patterns without context I wouldve assumed it was from a mod||

[novel fog]

||but note mistletoe is parasitic plant, like how Master Crown is described as one||

[novel fog]

||actually wait, they're used for Christmas stuff? is it anything related or no||

[vocal latch]

||Yea mistletoes are mostly associated with christmas||

[novel fog]

||I've never heard of that||

[thin prairie]

have we seen the dark nebula mask yet

[bitter shard]

||Mistletoe is pretty commonly associated with Christmas ||

[leaden terrace]

||Lmao hes NOT touching that apple||

[novel fog]

||sounds awful lol, why would you have parasitic plant associated with holiday like that||

[leaden jacinth]

not in actual gameplay, but it makes funny sounds
#1077968255232254092 message

[thin prairie]

King#4513 - #[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

Some more masks

Attachment

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1077968255232254092/1078462841968939129/SPOILER_2023022318440901-130BADDB3C2A1143C1AD942289F3D62D.mp4

Quoted by Pcah#9046 • [217358748040036352] · Feb 23, 2023, 11:46 PM

[leaden jacinth]

dumb starfish ❤️

[urban bluff]

gamers, pls ping if there's a video of all masks

[leaden terrace]

*staaaaaare*

[novel fog]

||also I just noticed how Magolor Soul's hands get sucked into the portal before him in his True Arena death animation||

[leaden terrace]

||i wonder if that means something different??||

[thin prairie]

those are great sounds

i especially love how one of them wasnt even updated at all

[unborn mist]

Any Butterfly appearances?

[leaden terrace]

||none afaik||

||other than whats already in the game||

[novel fog]

||there goes the hands (see left) lol||

[leaden terrace]

||I noticed it immediately. Kind of funny and scary at the same time. Like what does that mean?? Why is it different than the last one??? What doe s this MEAN kumazaki||

[thin prairie]

look ma no hands

[unborn mist]

||Guess it makes sense, especially for the Magolor Epilogue. He's not exactly capable of going up against Morpho Knight.||

[thin prairie]

oh he is

[vocal latch]

yea

[leaden terrace]

||Well, you said that, but...||

[novel fog]

||okay, so MK is selectable in True Arena after beating it, ingame message is a liar lol||

[thin prairie]

ok good

[vocal latch]

||Wait so has anyone figured out what the Susie (Weekend) outfit is based on??||

I checked her concept art and can't find anything

[unreal stag]

||i don't think it lied, it just forgot to mention mk||

||which is mean||

[novel fog]

||lying by omission lol||

[novel fog]

||might just be original||

[wheat kettle]

||landia ex tapping into master crown's power like magolor? maybe if we didnt defeat landia ex it would get corrupted too? (like parallel landia)||

[thin prairie]

probably original

[leaden terrace]

||btw this magolor soul theme is SO good||

[unborn mist]

Out of curiosity, why are people marking things as spoilers in the spoiler chat?

[novel fog]

because it comes up in search results

[leaden terrace]

just so people dont get spoiled if they accidentally join not wanting to be spoiled

[vocal latch]

||Landia EX's description is 100% a reference to Parallel Landia, yeah.||

[leaden terrace]

what?

i used search multiple times trying to look for things in this thread

they dont pop up at all

[novel fog]

no they do

[leaden terrace]

how?? i wasted so many minutes scrolling up before people used more pins

😭

[marsh frost]

Opinions on the Epilogue as a whole? ||I find it hilarious that Kirby Clash was made canon.||

[unborn mist]

||How is the Master Crown shattering at the end of the main story rationalized for the epilogue?||

[unreal stag]

||kirby (handshake) twewy
canonizing and making story integral its microtransaction characters||

[novel fog]

yeah okay just checked, still does it even for threads/forum posts I'm not in

[thin prairie]

i just saw wht happens when you get a perfect on crackity hack

its very cute

[leaden terrace]

WHAT WHY NOW

YESTERDAY IT DIDn

grrrrrr

[novel fog]

Discord has always done that
but search has been weird in general with search results lately so that might be why it didn't pop up for you

[leaden terrace]

maybe

[novel fog]

like searching 'Kirby' shows stuff from last year for me

[leaden terrace]

just searching for my own messages kinda breaks it a bit

[marsh frost]

||For Magolor's sake. I'm glad he didn't have to face the Grim Reaper alone.||

[wheat kettle]

||is the crown's gem its eye||

[leaden terrace]

||what, the master crown?||

[wheat kettle]

yes

[leaden terrace]

||if so, i dont think so. both forms (magolor soul, mistleteinn) both shows the crown's gem and the eye iirc||

[vocal latch]

||LANDIA EX (DELUXE)
古代の人々が作ったという伝説のクラウン。
その力はおそろしく、支配のパワーに
くっさぬクラウンの守り神といわれている
このランディアでさえも、 全ての力を
コントロールはできていないという。
The legendary crown was created by ancient people.
Even Landia, the guardian deity of the crown, who is said to be untouched by the power of domination, is said to be unable to control all of its powers.

PARALLEL LANDIA
王冠の力にのまれた
異世界のドラゴン・・・
おちたに再び光を・・・！
The dragon of another world,
consumed by the power of the crown...
Let the light shine again on the fallen...!||

WAIT

[unborn mist]

||Maybe Butterfly was watching and judging in secret||

[vocal latch]

||they use 古代の人 FOR ANCIENT PEOPLE HERE||

||LIKE IN KSA TRUE VOID TERMINA PHASE 2||

||Og game Magolor used 昔の人||

[bitter shard]

||I found it kinda funny Morpho Knight didn’t have an appearance after all the speculation ||

[unborn mist]

||Seriously, how did the Master Crown survive the battle against Kirby?||

[leaden terrace]

||By being cool and hot!||

[unborn mist]

||Magolor being able to defeat Morpho Knight would have made Morpho Knight seem a lot weaker. It was for the best.||

[leaden terrace]

||honestly good i never expected it to actually appear. its always master crown for me, though i never thought of the actual tree.||

[leaden terrace]

||Kirby already beat Morpho Knight. Twice. I think he's already as weak as he could be.||

[dawn citrus]

||is there a master crown ex battle in the true arena or just the new additions to Magsoul?||

[wheat kettle]

only shards survived

[thin prairie]

under my control is dead

[novel fog]

||just new Magolor Soul fight||

[leaden terrace]

WHATS UNDER MY CONTROL

NOW

TELL ME

NOW

[thin prairie]

its great

[leaden terrace]

TELL ME

NOW!!!

[thin prairie]

bad translation of song title

[leaden terrace]

i meant the actual name

[thin prairie]

fanmade btw

[hollow cypress]

I'm boutta come in with a hot take and say ||This version of CROWNED (the star allies medley one) imo doesnt so much work as well for a theme against magolor as it does a theme FOR magolor (as in i mean it works more as a theme of magolor as playable [couldnt find a better word. "protagonistic" sounds too heroic for the eg] than it does as an actual boss theme) and that i prefer the original crowned in that regard||

[thin prairie]

oh right

[novel fog]

||Welcome Your New Overlord||

[vocal latch]

||Welcome Your New Overlord||

[unborn mist]

||That's Kirby, though, who casually slays demon gods.||

[leaden terrace]

oh i guess that sounds fine enough

[unborn mist]

||So what's the crown in the final battle?||

[dawn citrus]

||Alright, from what I've read the new editions to it seem good, gonna try speeding through when I buy it in the morning||

[wheat kettle]

the shards

[leaden terrace]

||Yeah, but that still makes him weak, no? If Kirby can beat him, then maybe King Dedede. Maybe Meta Knight. Maybe Magolor. You get what I mean||

[wheat kettle]

how does magolor beat the crown otherwise? if hes strong enough already why does he need crown lol

[thin prairie]

are there other new song titles that are notable

[hollow cypress]

||WYNO, or as I'd like to say, "Hal, WYNO (why no) remixes of this song?"||

[vocal latch]

||Kirby only fights Morpho Knight in Forgotten Land, not counting Ultimate Choice.||

[novel fog]

||created from shards powering Grand Doomer, then it possesses apple||

[dawn citrus]

Power wants more power

Basically

[leaden terrace]

I know, I just wanted to say that lol

[junior mesa]

(most of the "gods" he slays he ends up using special tools &/or friends for anyways)

[thin prairie]

bye

[unborn mist]

||Speaking of which, why is there an evil demon apple?||

[opaque flare]

||Miffed that there's no Gryll mask||

[marsh frost]

||I immediately anticipated for no Morpho appearance the instant Magolor was confirmed to not be punted into the afterlife. No reason for Morpho to really show up otherwise.||

[dawn citrus]

||Was there anything hinting at the void connection in pause lore btw? Or are we still only going off of void summoning it in battle in star allies, and the eyes obviously||

[leaden terrace]

||There isn't. Master Crown is the evil demon||

[novel fog]

||the apple is not 'evil', and we don't know, it is just a Fruit containing great power||

||pretty sure it was made from Magolor's power being scattered?||

[bitter shard]

||Does it have a name?||

[novel fog]

||no||

||just 'red fruit'||

[leaden terrace]

||Now why would a butterfly be in Another Dimension?|| idk if i already said that but yeah

[junior mesa]

||is it an apple to represent the first sin or smthn?||

[leaden terrace]

probably maybe

yeah

[unborn mist]

||Judas redeems himself by destroying the tree that bears the Forbidden Fruit, lol||

[marsh frost]

||Not exactly. Being beaten by the main protagonist is par for the course. Getting beat by Magolor, whose canonically much much weaker than Kirby in canon would be a little unfortunate for Morpho's fearsome status in lore.||

[wheat kettle]

||are we even sure that the golden part of the tree boss is part of the master crown?||

[leaden terrace]

||BTW, if you reach Magolor Phase 3, after he screams for a bit, he drops an apple to you. Is it really just a healing item? Cus I noticed the youtuber just avoids it||

[bitter shard]

||It’s not actually clear what the Forbidden Fruit is but it’s so commonly portrayed as an apple||

[novel fog]

||yeah it is||

||just heals bit of HP, not full though||

[leaden terrace]

wow i guess it really is just the lingering fear lol

[junior mesa]

||its just healing||

[wheat kettle]

only the golden bits around it are part of the crown

[leaden terrace]

guess thats fair

[unborn mist]

||This makes the name of the fruit simply being "Red Fruit" even more significant. Someone really did their research.||

[junior mesa]

||tbh SA already made morpho a lot less fierce right off the bat lol
10 second boss battle moment||

[leaden terrace]

||i dont see why would "make it weaker" be a problem if we have meta knightmare modes which i KNOW isnt canon but meta knight keeps kicking galacta's ass there||

||but for someone like morpho knight, makes sense||

[junior mesa]

yeah, it's just fruit from a tree

[leaden terrace]

😭

[vocal latch]

||@novel fog do you have special pages for Sphere Doomers in Halcandra (+EX variant), Dooter & EX, Puffer & EX?||

[novel fog]

||in JP? posted most of those earlier||

[unborn mist]

||Best take I've seen so far is that Magolor is Judas who was sent to purgatory and redeems himself by destroying the catalyst for original sin.||

[jolly valve]

||You can already do that in Guest Star anyways lmao||

[leaden terrace]

guys. Isn't it weird?

||We're seeing the Bible basically being played out in a Kirby game.||

[novel fog]

||should eventually find them if you search 'JP Description', don't have normal Doomers one I think though||

[lime bluff]

||apperently magolor soul has a new phase and the music is the crowned star Allie’s music, the only difference is, you can hear magolors screams in the background||

[junior mesa]

||magolor out here writing christian fanfiction||

[leaden terrace]

||not screams but i think hes like trying to call out for kirby||

[unborn mist]

I honestly love this. It's such a playful way to portray these events.

[leaden terrace]

thanks Kumazaki!

mwah

[hollow cypress]

||Dwmn is this like the stardream soul os haltmann pillar screams all over again||

[junior mesa]

||honestly not at all other than nods here and there||

[novel fog]

||okay edited Dooter and Puffer posts to have 'JP Description' so should be easy to find that too now||

[urban bluff]

oh yeah

have we learned if other mask has special function yet

[leaden terrace]

yeah im joking

[urban bluff]

like kine with water

[fathom cradle]

Nope

Not yet

[novel fog]

did anyone test Mine's yet

[fathom cradle]

I've been trying them all on and I certainly can't tell

I'll try when I get out of this nutty noon level

[unborn mist]

Trying to figure out Kirby canon like

[hollow cypress]

||I'm not surprised that they would make this biblical I mean, zero two is literally just a biblically accurate angel also it's kirby lore nothing surprises me anymore||

[unborn mist]

@fathom cradle S++ tier profile pic, btw

[vocal latch]

||thank you! you have JP Whispy EX too?||

[leaden terrace]

literally everyone about void termina tbh

[lime bluff]

Also ||magolor soul is round 21 now, it used to be round 15||

[junior mesa]

simply don't consider guest star itself as canon (it makes no canonical sense whatsoever)

[trim pilot]

Kumazaki be like "hmmm I thought it was perfectly clear"

[novel fog]

||it's with Dooter EX post||

[lime bluff]

||I think they just added epilogue bosses to the true arena||

[unborn mist]

Kirby Legends: Star Allies required

[hollow cypress]

I think you should all specify canonically* because [vague gesturing towards Star Allies]

[novel fog]

||yeah, we've seen it already||

||and also new Soul fight||

[leaden terrace]

||The new phase is pretty insane||

[lime bluff]

||Wait can you send a vid of true arena||

[unborn mist]

Dw everyone, Kirby Star Allies will finally make sense in, like, 10 years

[junior mesa]

||(the new fight is kind of just Soul but he jukes you a lot, which is still cool but)||

[novel fog]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuhfSRIqWwU for most of this stream, successful attempt is near end though||

[junior mesa]

||erm but we already know that kirby is void that's enough right ||

[marsh frost]

||Well it's good that his appearance in Star Allies probably wasn't really canon then? 😭 But yeah, that was a really unfortunate start with Morpho Knight as a concept, him casually being the punching bag by the most random characters did him a disservice.||

[hollow cypress]

Kumazaki writing the lore and expecting us to make any sense of it

[leaden terrace]

wait i just noticed smth interesting

[unborn mist]

||I love how there is no more information on The Ancients in the new story that centers around the character who first mentioned them||

[leaden terrace]

||is phase 3 magolor soul literally just the crown? i noticed the mag eyes are completely closed||

[fathom cradle]

[novel fog]

||basically, yes||

[junior mesa]

||the description implies as much
plus soul in general isn't magolor at all anyways, not just TA||

[leaden terrace]

ah yeah the description

[fathom cradle]

Mine also has the enhanced water gun

[novel fog]

okay nice

[junior mesa]

mine's water gun is pink tho

[marsh frost]

||I was talking in terms of Morpho appearing in Magolor's story above all else. Magolor beating him would be canon, which isn't the best choice for a narrative.||

[novel fog]

try Puffer too if you have it

[strong seal]

my water gun is yellow

[indigo notch]

Any arena updates

[fathom cradle]

Thats just the enhanced water gun

I tried with kine too

[indigo notch]

Sorry I keep asking but it feels like no one's uploading stuff

[leaden terrace]

||damn. so... wtf does all that mean? is it canon? are we gonna get a follow up on that eventually?||

[junior mesa]

||we have the entire True Arena||

[fathom cradle]

Puffer doesn't have it

[leaden terrace]

yeah true arena's bee ncleared

[indigo notch]

Is there a vid?

[leaden terrace]

scroll up if u wanna look for the stream, its posted by ultrby

[novel fog]

people beat it
||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuhfSRIqWwU most of this stream has it, successful attempt near the end||

[unborn mist]

The irony is that Kirby has some of the deepest lore out of any franchise. It's just buried very deep.

[indigo notch]

K thanks

[leaden terrace]

not even that deep

just look past the surface

if you were REALLY looking for some deep cut answers though, then yeah youd have to dig quite a bit

[unborn mist]

D E E P E S T L O R E

[strong seal]

most kirby lore is just different forms of powerscaling

[leaden terrace]

LOL

[strong seal]

like this guy beat this guy, this guy beat this guy, this guy fused with this guy and kirby beat him, etc

[marsh frost]

Kirby lore being powerscaling is the funniest shit ever.

[leaden terrace]

its true tho

[strong seal]

every game is just more info on what kirby can beat the shit out of

[leaden terrace]

theyre constantly making kirby out to be the strongest and i cant argue against it

[hollow cypress]

Ancients being afraid of everything with power

[strong seal]

kirby games aren't games; they're manifestos from HAL to prove that kirby is the strongest being in all of fiction

[indigo notch]

Another question about the arena, do we know if using items has any kind of penalty like in Forgotten land

[marsh frost]

It's still so funny to me that DMK in his debut game went from this god that defeated MK, put Kirby on the ropes and required some help to beat... to a jobber that got solo'd by Dedede on a bad day AND a possessed Meta Knight.

Kirby lore is something else.

[unborn mist]

||I can't believe it's been 13 years and we still haven't seen a single member of The Ancients.||

[junior mesa]

||kirby fans when they think kirby is a god destroyer without thinking twice ||

[strong seal]

have you seen ||your mom||

[indigo notch]

Like I hope the end time at least shows if you used them or not

[leaden terrace]

||thats why i wouldnt exactly object to morpho getting beat by magolor lol shit just happens yknow||

[lime bluff]

||Is the extra mode final boss still magolor soul||

[indigo notch]

Otherwise can't you just stockpile pep brews?

[leaden terrace]

||yep||

[novel fog]

||well yeah, why do you think they're called 'ancients' lol||

[unborn mist]

I have. She's a very nice lady.

[lime bluff]

||is GK still true arena exclusive||

[novel fog]

||yes||

[leaden terrace]

||yep||

[lime bluff]

Damn

[vocal latch]

WIP

[strong seal]

||gk?||

[unborn mist]

||Because they're old. Doesn't mean they're all dead.||

[junior mesa]

||galacta||

[warm peak]

Cutscene

not sure if I prefer this or not to the original

[novel fog]

||I mean unless they're immortal or time travelers they probably have to die eventually||

[leaden terrace]

I personally prefer it. Look at how fucking small dededes eyes is LOL

[marsh frost]

||I'd accept it easier if Morpho Knight became a strange ally like DMK did. It justifies him being powercrept by others. Currently, Morpho is relevant as an overarching baddy so having him lose to side characters would start to remove why we should care about him. Like who cares if Morpho is out there? A random side character could clear him anyway.||

[unborn mist]

This redesign hurts my soul

[lime bluff]

||best part about RTDLD is that metal general canonically has depression||

[indigo notch]

Has anyone used items in their arena runs?

[junior mesa]

||but he has no heart?||

[indigo notch]

Might sound petty but this actually affects my decision to get the game

[leaden terrace]

||Yeah obviously we wouldnt have him lose to someone so soon, but then again he literally just lost to Kirby. ither way, I just go with whatever they throw at our direction, who knows what it could really mean||

[novel fog]

||I think I saw someone use amiibo, souvenir items can be used too but didn't see anyone use them||

[indigo notch]

Did the end time have a stamp?

I want the arenas to be replayable but I don't wanna be forced to use items to get the best times

[junior mesa]

||honestly no items are good boss killers||

[warm peak]

Is there a true arena EX with ||the new final boss?||

[indigo notch]

If I do it itemless I can't prove it. That's why I really appreciated FL marking the time if you used Amiibos or buffs

[unborn mist]

||If they built the Clockwork Stars I'm pretty sure they could figure out extended lifespans||

[junior mesa]

||even the crackler is terrible at killing bosses fast||

[warm peak]

Or are all the Magolor bosses specific to his mode?

[marsh frost]

||All fair. In that case it's just the usual lore of:||

||Kirby >>>>||

||Having a weakened Magolor beat him in RTDL Epilogue would've been baaaad lol.||

[indigo notch]

pep brews an easy cop out for anything though

[novel fog]

||idk, the one person I saw use them didn't beat it so couldn't check, but I'd assume they would mark it?||

[indigo notch]

Theoretically can't you just stock 99 of them and stand inside bosses at all times?

[novel fog]

I mean cracklers might be more of a problem

[junior mesa]

they're not

cracklers are terrible

[novel fog]

oh are they

[indigo notch]

Would be fine casually but I appreciate the distinction being made

[warm peak]

also did they give Dubior a new sound effect

[junior mesa]

use it against normal whispy in the demo

you'll see what i mean

compared to copy abilities they work but they're slow

not optimal for runs

[novel fog]

I mean might be an option for no ability speedruns if not disallowed

[junior mesa]

honestly maybe if they like
interchangeably use them with shooting stars

[novel fog]

at the very least I'd assume they have Tomato Box-like properties?

[indigo notch]

Honestly wish Kirby arenas would go the extra mile and add another sticker if you did it abilityless

[leaden terrace]

||Well, he still fought Master Crown. We don't know how exactly strong that is, but it's always the final boss in RtDL be it Epilogue or the base game or even the True Arena (Note no Magolor eyes). Also, if were counting gameplay, Magolor's always been kinda broken if not balanced by his own mode, I don't see how he wouldn't easily beat Morpho lol.||

[unborn mist]

||So what's the deal with the location of the final Magolor Epilogue fight and the sword that Magolor uses? Any info on that location?||

[leaden terrace]

still this powerscaling thing is kinda useless

to me

never been a fan

[junior mesa]

||okay let's be real for a second on the morpho talk
if he was sent to hell instead it probably would've had a morpho fight anyways||

[wheat kettle]

||another dimension is a nightmare||

[leaden terrace]

if anything happens, as long as theres a reason and even a followup to chill that injury to some, anything can work

[novel fog]

||that is the Ethereal Altar (orエデンの間 (Room of Eden) in JP); sword used is on altar||

[indigo notch]

||also yes on the new mago soul phase. Hal does not fucking miss||

[leaden terrace]

||LMAO OK THEY REALLY JUST SAID "ok FINE heres the christain reference"||

[warm peak]

Can someone link me to the ||new magolor soul phase?||

I wanna see it

[novel fog]

||I mean, there's other pretty Christain stuff too lol||

[unborn mist]

||The impression I'm getting is that Morpho Knight's judgement comes before someone's death. If Magolor ended up dying there would have been nowhere for Morpho Knight to intervene.||

[junior mesa]

||if they just spiced up magolor soul's TA appearance slightly it'd be peak
but it still looks like him ||

[indigo notch]

||OG games true arena always felt pretty anticlimactic to just go from the original Galacta Knight boss to just the same final boss from extra mode. Glad that's changed.||

[novel fog]

||like JP version has 'Sin' in one of the song titles||

[leaden terrace]

||Yeah but this one is just blatantly saying Eden like they knew everyone would call it that anyways lmao||

[novel fog]

yeah lmao

[junior mesa]

||i'm sure there are plenty of bosses magolor would be killing for morpho to step in on||

[unborn mist]

||Lol, very subtle Biblical reference||

[urban bluff]

oh mine mask has the same function as kine mask btw

[warm peak]

Magolor Epilouge Final Boss

also dang

[indigo notch]

||Nah, I like the idea that Kirby has destroyed every shred of Magolor remaining within the husk, and now all that remains is the one giant eye controlled purely by the crown.||

[vocal latch]

finished fatty puffer's

now onto goriath

[warm peak]

Does anyone have a link to the ||true final boss?||

[junior mesa]

it looks like a mod.

[leaden terrace]

||i still cant fathom the idea that hes somehow related to marx lol.||

[warm peak]

I keep hearing ||Magolor Soul got an extra phase||

[junior mesa]

wdym related to marx???

[leaden terrace]

yea

also

[junior mesa]

nothing related to marx

[leaden terrace]

its just a presumption

[indigo notch]

||It's like the Magolor that remained in the true arena was finally put to rest by Kirby, and the form has to do everything in its power to retain it's shape||

[junior mesa]

other than like one attack

[unborn mist]

Wait, where is this from?