[SPOILERS] RtDL Deluxe

[topaz wren]

||it likely means clash universe takes place in another world/universe though||

[tawdry mulch]

||guess ill have to see how its handled when i play i guess okay bye bye spoiler channel see you all in therapy||

[verbal rapids]

Have fun

[urban bluff]

HOLY SHIT big heavy spoiler, a lot of lore implication

[faint galleon]

LOL

[verbal rapids]

WOAH!1!!1!1!1

[urban bluff]

||||

[urban beacon]

||The final boss of ME looks so cool||

[novel fog]

||well, yeah, but confirms outside of interviews that it can be travelled to||

[urban beacon]

Aint no way

[novel fog]

||and is like any other Dimension||

[coral halo]

[ruby narwhal]

As someone who has played ||hollow knight|| I’ll never unsee this

[vocal latch]

Ok so when do Dedede's Drum Dash & Dream Collection happen

||After Team Kirby Clash Deluxe ig||

[novel fog]

||yeah, Lor probably picks him up at some point (or he otherwise finds a Dimension Hole)||

[odd rover]

Me looking at everyone talking about the finale with absolutely context of what’s happening:

[topaz wren]

||I'm waiting for the day where kirby and the multiverse of madness comes now that this is established in the games||

[verbal rapids]

Lmfaooo it's like ||picking up a child after school||
||"hey honey did you have fun at the alternative universe today" or some shit||

[urban beacon]

||Wait was the third arena confirmed?||

[odd rover]

On a scale of 1-10 how batshit insane is it

[faint galleon]

No

[urban beacon]

Ah ok

[faint galleon]

What is

[spice osprey]

||throw out the scale it broke||

[urban beacon]

Was guessing it wasnt

[vocal latch]

10/10

[topaz wren]

||no, it is still unknown||

[trim pilot]

hmm I hope u can fight epilogue bosses as Kirby actually, bc ||I don't see any star dropping when bosses attack||

[odd rover]

I see

[verbal rapids]

100

[odd rover]

I see even more

[hollow cypress]

Infinity/10 holy crap

[odd rover]

Oh yeah I just remembered what I was about to say

For those who look at leaks, why?

[novel fog]

mid-bosses don't drop any either iirc

[faint galleon]

Because I don't get games on launch and it would be impossible to avoid spoilers regardless

[verbal rapids]

I have no means to play the game, I like just observing the speculation and theories too

[gilded sequoia]

not in a spot atm where I can get the game to experience it myself, and by the time I am in that spot I won’t be interested in getting the game anymore

[spice osprey]

I wasn't going to but I was bored and the weather might not be great friday

[novel fog]

yeah, I would look at it when game releases anyway

[topaz wren]

For me, I can't usually get games until months ~ year after they release so I want to absorb the content sooner

[untold rock]

WHERE DOES THAT FINAL BOSS FIGHT TAKE PLACE WTF

[gentle gyro]

||is it just me or does the master crown look a little weak for the "final" boss||

[trim pilot]

in the epilogue or in the main story?

[urban beacon]

Make me more hyped

[kindred smelt]

I don’t think they drop any for the epilogue this magolor can’t use them plus the switch would melt lol

[novel fog]

Epilogue, of course

[faint galleon]

Well not impossible but I'm too lazy to do it and starving myself from social media would be...bad.

[topaz wren]

• I only just recently got a switch and I'm saving up for forgotten land so rtdldx gonna have to underprioritized lol

[thin prairie]

Do we have any of the descriptions for the epilogue bosses yet?

[spice osprey]

no

[lofty condor]

Not yet

[faint galleon]

No

[trim pilot]

It's weird I really hope we can fight them with Kirby lol

[novel fog]

nope, not for most of the main bosses either

[verbal rapids]

Pls spoiler tag

[faint galleon]

Tag

[lofty condor]

||Halcandra’s last days from the looks of it||

WAIT TAG

[untold rock]

isnt this the spoiler chat tho??

[gilded sequoia]

yeah gotta tag it

[lofty condor]

Spoilers gotta be tagged too, especially final boss ones

[fathom cradle]

this is before official release

[spice osprey]

yeah but thats spoilery spoilers

[fathom cradle]

and is the final boss of the new postgame mode

[vocal latch]

||In the altar, but it resembles Egg Engines in its likely prime crumbling.||

[fathom cradle]

it should be tagged

[untold rock]

thats goofy

[gilded sequoia]

even so, it’s courteous bc some people out here don’t want to know exactly what’s happening

[spice osprey]

it shows up in searches if you don't so

[untold rock]

maybe they shouldn't be in the spoiler chat then??

[ruby narwhal]

||so, I assume it was the master crown that brought Halcandra to sudden Rui ||

[odd rover]

Ok time to leave again

[fathom cradle]

also it's literally before the official release and it just leaked lol

[novel fog]

btw another person is streaming, not too far of course though

[fathom cradle]

there were plenty of ppl in here talking about reviews before since there was no sign of leaks

[untold rock]

what if this hints at ||another Kirby Clash game lol||

[vocal latch]

LOL

[untold rock]

wouldn't mind it i loved those games

[novel fog]

||what would they do to make it different? make it 3D?||

[faint galleon]

||3D clash would go hard af||

[untold rock]

||probably, maybe add more classes and stuff||

[spice osprey]

||that's just monster hunter. I would like that.||

[gilded sequoia]

||more classes please||

[burnt slate]

||man, looking at the speed of crowned doomer's revolution orb shot, im a bit sad that they chose to base the epilogue bosses on the story mode version and not the extra version||

[thin prairie]

And more original enemies would be sweet

[spice osprey]

aight i'm gonna dip out from the chat now because i'll be here all night if I don't

[untold rock]

how did HAL make ||microtransactions|| into a fucking final boss

literally insane

i love them

[prime belfry]

||No way HAL just made the clash games canon like that||

[faint galleon]

||They cooked||

[fathom cradle]

tbh i'm getting a little more convinced ||there really may be no 3rd arena lol, there's no hint in the epilogue credits and most of the counterparts seem weaker than ex to me||

[prime belfry]

Let them cook again

[fathom cradle]

will continue to cope ig

[fathom cradle]

bye

[thin prairie]

||clash dislikers really lost with magologue's ending huh?||

[lofty condor]

I’m trying to keep the copium up but yeah lmao

||The final boss especially looks like it’s more meant for Mags lol||

||But we’ll see||

[prime belfry]

||#KirbyClashSweep||

[ruby narwhal]

Oh I just realised it’s 3am lmao

||Just can’t get enough of that final boss opening, so raw||

[thin prairie]

||yall it all makes sense now, Magolor went to Kirby clash got more gem apples then he knew what to do with and came back and turned them into bombs in star Allie’s||

[ruby narwhal]

Can’t wait to see fan art of the final boss

[trim pilot]

||Super Kirby Clash|| as the final boss is epic lmao

[vocal latch]

||I TOLD YOU THEY'RE CANON ||

[vocal latch]

||The Master Crown seems to also make Gem Apple Bombs||

[prime belfry]

||Damn right lmao ||

||I remember your Galacta Knight theory||

HAL was always cooking we just didn't know

[vocal latch]

which one

[prime belfry]

The one where

[vocal latch]

||Oh yeah that one aged bad||

[prime belfry]

They go through dimensions or smth?

[vocal latch]

||BUT THE OTHER PART WAS TRUE||

||First part is dead wrong but second part is gift of prophecy||

[prime belfry]

lmaoo

[vocal latch]

||I feel bad for Ampether tho 😭||

[faint galleon]

The image of all time

[vocal latch]

||Dude we manifested this literally when this happened||

[prime belfry]

Me and some friends joked about ||Shopkeeper Magolor|| being in the game and well, there he is lol

[hollow rose]

Crackpot theory time

[prime belfry]

You love to see it

Always nice seeing the goat get new content

[vocal latch]

||Dude we literally predicted Clash prequel, Gem Apple origin, and Whispy Woods final boss||

[odd rover]

From what I see from your reactions this sounds like a lot more than Magolor simply ||finding the Gem Apples||

[lofty condor]

Oh buddy.

[prime belfry]

That because Magolor is important

[hollow rose]

||Master Crown in its tree form was the Galactic Crisis, hence why the background depicts the fall of Halcandra. The whole "tree of life symbolism" relates back to Void being the progenitor and all that jazz but let's put that aside for now. Imagine, Halcandra falls, ancients abandon it, the master tree is then contained by the Magic Tribe which is why it has similarities to their tech rather than the Tech Ancients', and turned into the Master Crown. Hyness claims they ended "that nightmare of a galactic crisis"||

[violet flower]

Uh no

Their tech is a combination of their magic and the tech ancients’ tech

[lean grotto]

My man really went

[vocal latch]

||IMAGINE THEY USE GALACTIC CRISIS FOR THE APUSE SCREEN||

[violet flower]

It’s not impossible but it requires a few leaps

[novel fog]

||oh huh they reused one of Void Termina's Angel Form's sounds for this attack, neat||

[ruby narwhal]

||Imagine if it’s the track name||

[vocal latch]

OH

[burnt moth]

||God, I still can't get over how the final boss is a literal satanic tree||

[odd rover]

Ya know a lot of these images are a very suspicious color

[vapid kestrel]

||It's so weird watching it shoot at the pace of a snail like jesus||

[burnt moth]

||Taking eldritch horrors to the next level, I see||

[hollow rose]

So yeah, going off the back of that ||it would mean that the Master Crown reverted back to its primal/tree form following its destruction at the end of RtDL, like that somehow unsealed the ancient evil that was inside or... something||

[vapid kestrel]

God someone dump this fucking game so we can stop wondering

[violet flower]

||jamba heart? ||

[burnt moth]

||Also Clash being canon means the theories of Aeon Hero/Galacta Knight being one of the people to seal Void Termina are practically confirmed||

[violet flower]

Clash is like an AU isn’t it

It’s canon as a diff universe

You aren’t wrong though

[hollow rose]

I mean it was basically confirmed before since AD transcends spacetime and GK is a time traveller

[burnt moth]

Yeah, but this just confirms it even further

[vapid kestrel]

||WAIT BRO IS CROSSING HIS HANDS???? LMFAO||

[novel fog]

||yeah, it is different dimension that can be travelled to (via stuff like Dimension Holes)||

[vocal latch]

||We also discovered a interview from Nintendo Dream 07/2017 which confirmed they were the same a few months ago.||

[kindred smelt]

Technically every what if mode is an Au in the Kirby universe since morpho, magolor, and galacta keep hopping between them

[hollow rose]

Yeah that too

[violet flower]

Mhm

[novel fog]

||up for debate whether Galacta from Clash and main dimensions are same though||

[faint galleon]

HSNASBBSSBBSBS

[hollow rose]

AD moment

[hollow rose]

I'd argue they're the same entity at different points in time

[violet flower]

||It’s pretty funny for Magolor to just find himself in a different universe then just come back find his old robe and screw around||

[trim pilot]

||since galacta knight kinda always travel through dimensional portals, probably||

[burnt slate]

o wtf, you can angle magolor surge

that's wacky

[vapid kestrel]

YEA

[violet flower]

Huh

[fathom cradle]

magolor surge seems insanely powerful in this

[vapid kestrel]

MF MOVING LIKE SMASH BAYO

[vocal latch]

||I think BWD already implies it enough in SKC tbh||

[fathom cradle]

although i guess this probably just applies to like

every ability after upgrades lol

[novel fog]

||true, it is very implied||

[faint galleon]

Magolor mod for bayonetta when

.....this makes...too much goddamn sense

What the fuck

[lean grotto]

bayo 3 if it was good

[hollow rose]

Klu theorised that ||the Galactic Crisis was a Master Crown user ages ago so I bet he'll be having a field day with this one lmao||

[kindred smelt]

He get’s ||his old outfit back in clash if you grow the gem apple tree to it’s max with cash or 100% so microtransactions are the solution to every problem||

[violet flower]

||So he just leaves after he has enough gem apples to use in attacks for SA and KF2||

[hollow rose]

Trolled

[vapid kestrel]

||Dude said FUCK magic bombs I wanna use these apples||

[violet flower]

Ok wait

Mega crackpot

||Is it possible that since AD transcends space and time, the crown brings us to the exact moment of the galactic crisis?||

[ruby narwhal]

||He saw their power when it was used against him so I’d imagine he’d want to use it himself||

[violet flower]

||Was Magolor stopping it interpreted by the Ancients as one of their own (we alone were responsible for stopping that repulsive nightmare)||

[novel fog]

in other news, ||here's masks as of completing 18th Stamp Rally||

[violet flower]

Holy shit

[topaz wren]

||AD TIME SHENANGIANS RETURN||

||if this theory is true lol||

[vapid kestrel]

||I mean you don't have to say 'ad transcends space and time', crown just has the power to force things like that anyway, but I don't think that makes much sense since the galactic crisis was resolved by hyness's tribe, not random guy pulled out of nowhere that was cosplaying as hyness||

[novel fog]

||note Waddle Dee, Rick and the RKC alternates are gotten through other means||

[hollow rose]

Yeah ||I think the background is just a representation of what happened||

[vocal latch]

AAAAAAAA WHY DOES NO ONE HAVE 2 OF THE MASKS I WANNA SEE

[hollow rose]

Assuming ||the destruction of Halcandra and the Galactic Crisis were even the same thing ofc||

[novel fog]

||probably late in||

||Stamp Rally masks are predetermined||

[violet flower]

||I mean he does ramble a lot in that monologue; Magolor’s prowess in the fight could have been interpreted by the tribe later as gifts of the magic ancients||

[winter crest]

In the trailer, I saw masks of bosses so do they have a mask for ex version?

[violet flower]

||As in their magical prowess alone was what helped the lone hero||

[hollow rose]

It would be very funny if that was the case

[novel fog]

||yes it seems, they are the alternates||

[violet flower]

Like

||The sword||

[hollow rose]

I would wanna watch Magolor's vlogs

[violet flower]

||The sword just appears||

[safe egret]

|| when you get the Kirby mask, put on meta knight and ping me it would be the funniest shit ever lol ||

[violet flower]

||Hyness snuck onscreen and put it there||

[novel fog]

I'm not the one playing lol

[vocal latch]

||Gives Magolor the Hyness mask||

[hollow rose]

||"Magolor did WHAT in ancient Halcandra"||
||Oops I accidentally stopped a Galactic Crisis and was perceived as some sort of mystic hero I'm such a Scorpio haha||

[winter crest]

Just make a full team of monke masks

[violet flower]

||>stops galactic crisis

steals seed of life
enlists ultrapowerful Kirby variants to help him grow the tree
leaves
makes a music themed amusement park for dedede||

[safe egret]

|| Well when you do get it ok ||

[topaz wren]

||tbh I think the theory being true would make Kirby (further) suffer from small world syndrome||

[vapid kestrel]

How many hours until this game releases in Australia again

[topaz wren]

||but it's not a bad theory, I think it's pretty interesting||

[ruby narwhal]

||There was a sword on the alter ever since the start of crowned doomer||

[thin prairie]

9 hours!

[novel fog]

||also yes Clawroline mask meows (of course), if anyone was wondering||

[violet flower]

Oh that’s fair yeah 💀

[thin prairie]

||LETS GOOOOOOOO!!!!!||

[winter crest]

I typing on my phone so I can't hide my comments

Sad

[smoky adder]

||part of me feels bad i got spoiled but the other part of me could not help it i love kumazakis wild ride||

[vapid kestrel]

Oh that is a lot closer than I thought

[thin prairie]

||SHE MEOWS 10/10 GAME GOTY||

[smoky adder]

yes you can

[burnt slate]

the announcement channel should update the time automatically

[novel fog]

||specifically the pissed off meows from what I heard lmao||

[topaz wren]

||lmao the meowing||

[burnt slate]

so ya it is in 9 hours

[smoky adder]

yup

[winter crest]

Oh

[violet flower]

||I think honestly if the FL civilization were the ancestors of the tech ancients or something we could have the series develop in a more techy way going forward, expanding the world with new characters||

[topaz wren]

|| these on both sides of the comment

[novel fog]

||oh I think it's both||

[violet flower]

||Just as RTDL was originally a renaissance FL could be one too||

[honest ibex]

i feel less bad spoiling myself on a remaster than a full on brand spanking new kirby game

[violet flower]

World would be ever so larger

[smoky adder]

good point

[thin prairie]

||im so glad marx and clawroline are both relatively early masks.....||

[winter crest]

||Imagine a mask team of Goriath, its ex version, Gorimondo, and Bonkers||

[viral wharf]

what does ||adeleine sound like||

[winter crest]

You lied to me

[smoky adder]

granted i didnt spoil fl so i earned this

[verbal rapids]

Two, not one, two on each end

[winter crest]

Oh

[smoky adder]

and i get to be more hype

[novel fog]

we heard it in prerelease footage, seems to just be twinkling and stuff

[honest ibex]

thats awesome

[viral wharf]

sobbing

[smoky adder]

ah yes adeleine iconic dialog "sparlkle"

[viral wharf]

same for ||ribbon||?

[honest ibex]

i kinda wish i didnt spoil myself on FL because it put me off from playing it for awhile lol

[smoky adder]

yes

[vocal latch]

||God why has no one unlocked Zero or NOVA mask yet ||😭

[lapis spoke]

has the ost leaked yet?

[smoky adder]

i was casual fan who wan excited when fl came out

[lapis spoke]

because i wanna ask if the song from the demo snippet has its full version out

[lofty condor]

Not yet

[novel fog]

||likely really late in Stamp Rally||

[honest ibex]

thats based as fuck

[smoky adder]

then i played fl and i am now ride or die

[lapis spoke]

man :(

[smoky adder]

hyperfixation for real

[urban bluff]

being a broken record paid off (magologue spoiler)

[honest ibex]

eagerly waiting for remaster galacta knight footage

[smoky adder]

same

[honest ibex]

i just wanna see my man

[lapis spoke]

https://youtu.be/uo33NM_Rqts this song has been stuck in my head for the past two weeks i need the full version @quiet flint

[smoky adder]

||last time saying this so happy he is canon||

[lapis spoke]

oh whoops didnt mean that to be a ping 💀

[thin prairie]

||ahhhhhh clawroline mask.... my girl .....||

[honest ibex]

||i am too oph my god i literally cant believe magolor indirectly made him canon thru kirby clash of all things||

||the way my jaw dropped when i saw clash magolor in the end credits||

[smoky adder]

||The galacta stans be eating good||

[honest ibex]

||and when the realization hit me............||

[burnt slate]

||looking at the epilogue credits again, i dont think there is going to be any secret bosses other than just galacta||

[urban bluff]

holy shit is that real cloudie

[smoky adder]

||you deserved this my beloved||

[urban bluff]

I haven't seen you ever since I used your hyness edit for pfp in like, 2018

[honest ibex]

||he may have not shown up in the epilogue like id hoped for but this is more than enough||

[honest ibex]

WHAT

[honest ibex]

HELP?????

AJJHASHJSD

THE CAKE ONE?

[prime belfry]

Well, now we just wait to see ||Master Crown 2nd form with the red and white zero reference||

[burnt slate]

||og rtdl extra mode at least showed off galacta in the credits, but the epilogue is mostly what happened to magolor after jumping into the portal||

[urban bluff]

the one with big uwu eyes

[honest ibex]

oh my god LMFAOOO

i remember that edit

oh man, memories

[smoky adder]

||best knight being canon makes me so happy||

[honest ibex]

good ol ksa days

||same||

[smoky adder]

||sorry if i don't shut up about it||

[honest ibex]

||i wont shut up about it for days either dont feel too bad||

[smoky adder]

|| https://tenor.com/view/galacta-knight-super-kirby-clash-kirby-aeon-hero-lance-gif-24599811 ||

[honest ibex]

my man

[smoky adder]

||you deserved this king||

[urban bluff]

oh put a space after the ending || so the gif embed in spoiler

[verbal rapids]

Keep cooking

[urban bluff]

🤦 I meant before

yeah there we go

[smoky adder]

||my beautiful wing boy||

[honest ibex]

galacta knight my beloved

[fathom cradle]

Tbh lowkey the credits hinted at a ||clash connection huh||

[urban bluff]

"lowkey"

[prime belfry]

Wait

[fathom cradle]

||hazemoto was in the credits and helped with skc sound lol||

[smoky adder]

||now all the knights are canon yay||

[prime belfry]

||If what happens after the epilogue is the clash games||

||Then how tf did Magolor came back for in TD||

[fathom cradle]

I mean the credits in general

[urban bluff]

it's explained in ||clash||

[fathom cradle]

When we saw which composers were listed

Bc ||one of them worked on skc||

[urban bluff]

ah I get you

[hollow rose]

||Lor picked him up or he hopped into another wormhole||

[smoky adder]

||all the funny knights are canon and have a party||

[honest ibex]

wait guys

we shouldve seen it coming

[smoky adder]

||so magolor can just open portals like elfilin||

[prime belfry]

Makes sense

[urban bluff]

||he regains all of his power and blue outfit after you buy everything in the shop with gem apples. it's implied he left back to his original timeline universe reality after that||

[hollow rose]

Not necessarily on his own no

[vocal latch]

||So, could Parallel Landia from Clash be the thoughts of the Master Crown forming in a different dimension, similar to the Parallel Bosses from Star Allies? ||

[burnt moth]

Honestly, all I'm waiting for is the OST leaks

[honest ibex]

||kirby clash deluxe
kirby return to dreamland deluxe
🤯 ||

[urban bluff]

um achsually ||it's team kirby clash deluxe and super kirby clash||

[smoky adder]

||so how does he come back then||

[burnt moth]

Because all the tracks we've heard for the epilogue sound amazing and I just wanna hear them in their entirety without SFX completely destroying them

[hollow rose]

||Lor, or he just happened to find a portal||

Most likely the former

Since he has it in DC

[vapid kestrel]

Hi cloudie

[smoky adder]

||people just leaveing portals out there||

[urban bluff]

||we don't know the exact detail, but full power magolor do be opening portals||

[austere willow]

VIDEO?

VIDEO? PLEASE

PLEASE

[urban bluff]

another one joined

ONE OF US

[smoky adder]

||So original reality skc then he goes back the other one||

[hollow rose]

||Crowned Magolor can do it, do we see Magolor open an AD portal with his own power?||

[vapid kestrel]

Oh its not pinned uhh

[topaz wren]

You aren't ready for your mind to break from this

[urban bluff]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_fomB0zP84 ||

[violet flower]

||I mean there are tons of powerful artifacts and juicers in Dream Kingdom||

Could’ve used that

Those

[vocal latch]

oh oops

[urban bluff]

@austere willow

[austere willow]

YASSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[marble jungle]

Wait, so, according to ||the ending, Kirby Clash is canon now?||
(Yes I watched the spoilery videos; I don't think I'll be able to sink time into any game anymore)

[honest ibex]

that

[smoky adder]

||So magolor goes from og reality the to the skc reality then hops back to og reality||

[honest ibex]

that is not timestamped

[burnt moth]

HAL on their way to make an even better remake than Super Star Ultra

[honest ibex]

awesome

[violet flower]

Yep

[vocal latch]

||When are we getting Ultra Kirby Clash Z which mixes the plot of the 3DS game with the one from Super and leads to Magolor returning to Dream Land||

[violet flower]

Goofy little guy

[burnt moth]

YEAH, I SAID IT

[urban bluff]

tldr, yes

[smoky adder]

||dudes decides to leave make money then comes back||

[hollow rose]

Yeah, that's possible. But I think ||the Lor coming back to him after he grew into a better person could serve to explain why he has it in future games||

[smoky adder]

||so what reality is magoland in||

[vapid kestrel]

Every

[violet flower]

||Maybe the Lor that found him was the tiny one he uses in the launch||

[vapid kestrel]

There were as many Magolands flying freely as there were different skies

[smoky adder]

||isnt lor sentient we keep forgetting that||

[vocal latch]

||He specifically goes to TKCD first because it's Castle Village||

[honest ibex]

||it is||

[hollow rose]

I think that's just a projection, we see the actual Lor in Dream Collection

[smoky adder]

||but magoland is described in past tense in deluxe||

[vapid kestrel]

||Castle village is in skc too tho?||

[violet flower]

||This means that Magolor actually has the potential to be one of the Dream Friends that aren’t constructs (Gooey, Bandee, MK, Dedede, etc)||

[violet flower]

Fair but it’s still funny

[vocal latch]

||Yeah but they go there later||

[vapid kestrel]

||Was Broom Hatter in TKCD village||

[topaz wren]

||skc is weird because it's a sort of sequel to tkcd in terms of story?||

[violet flower]

It is yes

[smoky adder]

||Merry magoland is described in the pass tense in the game||

[urban bluff]

wait does this mean

[smoky adder]

let me pull up the text

[violet flower]

||Merry Magoland is specifically said to be an AU like True Arena right||

[novel fog]

||yes, and not in Super||

[urban bluff]

||TKCD and SKC are both canon???? and magolor just hop between them for more money before going back???||

[violet flower]

Unless the Japanese desc is different

[vapid kestrel]

Magoland existed til the end of time, that’s why it’s past tense duh

[urban bluff]

BRO

||this mf||

[violet flower]

Well like

||To Magolor I guess||

[topaz wren]

||it's possible the idea is that the kirbies of each game are different but imo it's just one extended timeline and the whole thing is that the time gap between the games is somewhat large||

[violet flower]

||Like how True Arenas and Meta Knightmares are canon to GK||

[vapid kestrel]

||Personally I don’t think SKC is just TKCD world doing a second thing, and if I were to choose I’d think TKCD is canon over SKC
But maybe they’re two canon alternate worlds that he visited lol||

[fathom cradle]

||magolor needs to raise a shit ton of money so he can build a theme park for kirby||

[vocal latch]

||and Susie, and Galacta Knight (maybe) ||

[smoky adder]

heres the text

once it loads

[vocal latch]

||I think it's the latter||

[violet flower]

||Yeah, maybe he found a second Dream Kingdom AU cause the first didn’t net him enough apples lol||

[prime belfry]

||I still can't believe the clash games are canon||

[urban bluff]

honestly, my favorite part of this whole ||final boss and ending video|| is the very fact that they just
||blast ordeal theme|| every other minute during the climax of the epilogue

[prime belfry]

||Wait for the next game and they make Fighters 2 canon somehow||

[vocal latch]

||Magolor traveled to two identical but slightly different dimensions. But Parallel Susie, Parallel Landia & King D-Mind are the same guys||

[urban bluff]

||well. now the only not-so-canon kirby game is avalanche. how are you gonna retcon that, kumazaki||

[vapid kestrel]

||eh personally i don’t think D Mind is the same guy||

[hollow rose]

It already is, arguably

[urban bluff]

||I dare you kumazaki||

[vapid kestrel]

||d mind like the crux of why I think SKC isnt a TKCD sequel||

[smoky adder]

||kirby cant read canon yay||

[violet flower]

||Please don’t tread on his roots, it would not be a wise decision.||

[vocal latch]

||I like to think that Parallel Nightmare just summoned him from Clash Mirror World after Black Mirror destroyed||

[novel fog]

||I mean he came from Dimension Hole so who knows||

[hollow rose]

AD shenanigans

[smoky adder]

12

[lofty condor]

973

[smoky adder]

Magolor

[vapid kestrel]

Magolor

[violet flower]

||Galactic Crisis was just someone treading on Yggy’s roots||

[vapid kestrel]

Fuck

[urban bluff]

💀 lmao I can't, the more I rewatch the more I hear ||ordeal theme being spammed everywhere||

[austere willow]

THIS IS THE DIRECTION KIRBY NEEDS TO GO YESSSSS

MORE OF THIS PLEASEEEE

KUMAZAKI KILL US FURTHER

SLAY

[smoky adder]

||i cant wait for fighters 2 becomes cankn then we learn kirby writes scribbles in fl||

[hollow rose]

imo it already is canon

Nothing really contradicts that

[honest ibex]

i feel like i missed something ||what is this galactic crisis everyones referring back to||

[smoky adder]

||Kumazakis wild ride canon||

[vocal latch]

||Biggest brain: Team Kirby Clash Deluxe is what happened to Main Mode Magolor, Super Kirby Clash is what happened to Extra Mode Magolor ||

[viral wharf]

how is ||fighters 2 not canon now?||

[violet flower]

||Something that happened; Hyness says the magic ancients helped to contain it but the tech ancients later turned on them and he expressed anger||

[vapid kestrel]

||Hyness claims in SA that his tribe prevented a ‘nightmare of a galactic crisis’||

[urban bluff]

||hyness pasta and aeon hero||

[smoky adder]

||i didnt know fighters 2 was canon||

[prime belfry]

||Well... it's kinda like that? the end photo showing the village is from TKCD and not the one from SKC||

[honest ibex]

||Ok thanks im a bit rusty on SA lore so this helps||

[prime belfry]

Wouldn't be too hard for it to be that way

[violet flower]

||We don’t know if GK’s sealing was the galactic crisis; in fact, this epilogue might give us more pause||

[viral wharf]

||doesn't change the lore with it canon or not imo, didn't really do much for the series||

[vocal latch]

||Yeah, though it could also be that Magolor moved to Super Kirby Clash's world after Team Kirby Clash Deluxe lol||

[smoky adder]

||magolor is in both clash universes at the same time double the money||

[austere willow]

THE WAY THAT ||THEY SHOW US THE ORIGIN OF MAGOLOR'S ULTRA SWORD..............||

GIRL PLEASE DO THIS TO META KNIGHT

[prime belfry]

||stonks||

[austere willow]

DEDEDE. BANDEE

PLEASE......

[vocal latch]

YEA

THAT WAS RAW

[topaz wren]

||it's equally weird to me for skc to be an alt world of tkcd as it is for the two games to be one connected timeline; either way it just feels off||

[smoky adder]

||travel through portals make profit||

[hollow rose]

Maxcalibur (gen 10 Pokemon)

[violet flower]

I think Gooey needs an epilogue

Gooey and Mock Void from that artwork

[vocal latch]

||What if Kumazaki just announces Ultra Kirby Clash which gives us an actual clear story this time||

[hollow rose]

Gooey needs the Gooey comic to be canonised

[lilac arch]

||Can't believe the speculation that Magologue final boss was gonna be Super Whispy turned out to be true||

[violet flower]

Earthy woods

[vapid kestrel]

||I think it’s funny Magolor has both his boss ultra sword design and his sa moveset ultra sword design in this game||

[smoky adder]

||clearly magolor is buiness genius double the world double the money||

[austere willow]

also GIIIIIRRRLLLL WHAT IS THISSSS

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN KUMAZAKi

[topaz wren]

||kumazaki don't go off the rails challenge impossible||

[austere willow]

NO WAYYYYYY

[smoky adder]

||kumazaki do it go crazy go stupid||

[urban bluff]

||halcandra before boom||

[honest ibex]

oh my god

[steel elk]

Magolor Epilogue spoilers without context

[vocal latch]

LOL

[austere willow]

HI SMAFFLE

IM FREAKIN OUT!!!!!!!!!!

[steel elk]

Heya

[austere willow]

THIS SHITS SO COOL

[steel elk]

I KNOW RIGHT???

[austere willow]

DOES THIS MEAN ||MAGOLOR IS INDIRECTLY THE REASON HALCANDRA GOT DESTROYED OR SOMETHING|| WHAT DOES IT MEAN KUMA

KUMA TELL US

ZAKI!!!!!!

[smoky adder]

||magolor epilouge spoilers without context||

[topaz wren]

||whoever does the character designs really needs to get a raise, master crown true form is an absolute W||

[vocal latch]

I NEED THE PAUSE SCREEN GAURRGHHH

[austere willow]

THE FUCKING WAY THAT ||MASTER CROWN REFERNECES LIKE 20 DIFFERENT BOSSES||

[vocal latch]

Magolor Epilogue story be like

[steel elk]

Something else came to mind when thinking this all over

||So Landia has the Master Crown in the Kirby Clash games, right?

There have been multiple fucking master crowns this whole time||

[austere willow]

KUMAZAKI PLEASE FOR TH ELOVE OF GOODDDD TELL US WHAT THIS MEANS

[vocal latch]

HOW DOES HE KEEP ODING IT

[smoky adder]

||green magolor coming out just everyone screaming||

[honest ibex]

||im still not over this implication||

[smoky adder]

kumazaki you rascal

[austere willow]

LIKE WHY IS IT || WHISPY WOODS IF WHISPY WAS GOD||

[vocal latch]

||Don't forget Parallel Landia's existence.||

[austere willow]

LIKE THIS IS SO FUCKIN

AUGH

[gilded sequoia]

oh no, ||I never noticed the gold details on the gem tree before||

[steel elk]

Me neither

[lofty condor]

||I was so fucking shocked by the Master Crown Tree showing up I failed to notice the beginning part of the boss theme was literally Happy Town lmaoooo||

[honest ibex]

me neither

[fathom cradle]

||leaves are the same shape too||

[smoky adder]

||if whispy decided you know what im done||

[austere willow]

IS THE ||DREAM KINGDOM HALCANDRA PRE-TECHNOLOGY????||

[topaz wren]

||isn't parallel landia the landia of that universe corrupted by the crown? Or am I mixing up theory with fact||

[austere willow]

HTE WORLD BUILDING MAKES SENSE BUT KUMAZAKI U HAVE TO TELL US WHAT HAPPENS IN REGULAR CANON

[smoky adder]

||kill crown get money||

[vocal latch]

yea

[novel fog]

sure pause screens/music titles will have some important stuff

[steel elk]

||I question if that place you fight the Master Crown in has any connection to the New World||

[vocal latch]

TRUE

[lofty condor]

||Yeah this makes me wonder||
||Is the tree still fucked up by the Master Crown lol||

[vocal latch]

I NEED PAUSE SCREENS

[austere willow]

LIKE IT ISNT DIRECTLY ||HALCANDRA|| BUT LIKE IT WHAT IT WOULDVE BEEN LIKE

[novel fog]

and maybe move names

[vocal latch]

||Imagine end credits theme of Magologue is called WELCOME TO THE DREAM KINGDOM||

[novel fog]

||there better be hatred and obsession reference||

[smoky adder]

||you must kill the evil crown to make it print money||

[honest ibex]

||i think the tree is fine now but still retains some remnants from master crown||

[topaz wren]

and song titles

[lilac arch]

||Magolor really looked at the thing that destroyed an entire civillization and thought "I could make profit out of this"||

[vocal latch]

||if the credits theme name of Magologue is that then I die||

[smoky adder]

||magolor kills a tree then starts a retail buisness||

[lofty condor]

||Yeah it’s just so sus lol||

[steel elk]

||If I had to guess, Magolor likely came back to Dreamland because he either found the Lor Starcutter again or Lor managed to find him||

[lofty condor]

||God I really hope the novels handle this lmao||

[clever zinc]

That could fix the confusing parallel universe thing in kirby

[topaz wren]

||a true capitalist||

[smoky adder]

||i just the lor became his true friend and forgave him remember the boat is sentient||

[lofty condor]

||This is such a cool mode that it would be a shame if it wasn’t adapted||

[smoky adder]

MIE TAKASE COOK FOR US

[steel elk]

||What if Lor finally talked to him when they reunited||

||I need to make a comic of this now-||

[smoky adder]

||that would be so cute||

||his big best friend||

[clever zinc]

||Magolor has a quote where he said that the ship could talk right?||

[honest ibex]

||i need more lor lore fr||

[steel elk]

||Precisely!||

[vocal latch]

||playing through TKCD rn lmfao||

[austere willow]

WHAT DO THESE MEAN WHY ARE THEY ||RAINBOW||

[vocal latch]

||MARK||

[honest ibex]

||marx lmfao||

[steel elk]

||Marx's wings are golden||

||Like the crown||

[honest ibex]

||theyre even slightly hexagonal shaped||

[prime belfry]

Can't wait for the common Suyasuyabi banger art of the final boss

[austere willow]

SORRY BUT HOW DOES ||MARX FIT INTO THIS NOW||

[thin prairie]

Void termina had rainbow attacks too and it makes the same sound as his summons, probably just another connection between the two

[prime belfry]

If anything Kirby final bosses design have gotten way crazy and detailed since PR

[austere willow]

Oh yeah

[flat walrus]

elfilis colors

[austere willow]

not really it flashes colors

[vocal latch]

||Oh clay did you notice the Master Crown does Void Termina's Angel Crown attack||

[flat walrus]

elfilis clors : P

[austere willow]

not really it flashes colors

[topaz wren]

So this is highly speculatative but ||if the tree master crown happens to be the galactic crisis, the halo and its wings all point towards this angelic, heavenly vibe to it. We know the Ancients reached heights of unimaginable power but were mysteriously destroyed, but thematically the idea of the quest for greater power leading to self-destruction---is the reason that the crown takes you to this place for the fight is to show the punishment for hubris in search of power? With may allude to why Halcandra was destroyed in the first place?||

[thin prairie]

I’m sorry but I feel like everyone is always wayyy to quick to think any wing that just consists of having shapes or colors under arm like wings is a Marx reference I saw it a lot w Void termina but idk I feel like that’s a stretch as well

[topaz wren]

||It's kind of a stretch, vut we still don't know for sure what exactly is the point of these apple fragments and what they really are, I imagine it may come from that tree deity the crown became||

[honest ibex]

||star allies... he has the same sword 🥺 ||

[steel elk]

||You just now noticed?||

[honest ibex]

look i just got here an hour ago

[steel elk]

Fair

[lofty condor]

I just noticed now that Cloudie pointed it out lol

[austere willow]

THE FUCKING ||TEAM KIRBY CLASH MUSIC IN THE FUCKING CREDITS THEME||

[urban bluff]

||I am still confused about gem apple sorbet. THEY MADE FOOD out of cosmic power||

[austere willow]

WHAT DOES IT FUCKING MEAN KUMAZAKI.... I THOUGHT U SAID MAGOLOR IN CLASH WAS JUST A NONCANON THING

[steel elk]

||THAT PART MADE ME SO HAPPY||

[vocal latch]

he didn't tho

[urban bluff]

clay listen to the boss's intro theme ||ordeal boss||

[austere willow]

Didnt you send that quote

What Did he say

[vocal latch]

||He said it's the same dude remember||

[prime belfry]

||If they are a source for power, then the Kirby Clash Team might be overpowered af considering the quantity of gem apples they need to get gear||

[vocal latch]

||Well saying "different worldview" I got the impression he just meant that the Dream Kingdom never experienced his betrayal||

[steel elk]

||OH MY GOOOOOOD||

[austere willow]

I MEAN YEAH HES THE SAME DUDE BUT I THOUGHT HE MEANT ;oh this character would sell you shit"

[topaz wren]

I just made the connection here that ||gem apples giving vigor in the clash games is probably similar to Magolor using the fragments to regain his own power||

[novel fog]

||it's in final boss theme a bit too||

[topaz wren]

||the apples literally revitalize one to their peak state||

[vocal latch]

||熊崎 ただ、プププ王国自体が別の世界観の物語なので、彼が以前 (「星のカービィWii」の物語における) の罪滅ぼしをしているのかというと、それは違いますね。どちらかというと、課金の仕組みに商売っ気のあるキャラを出したかったんです。課金がネガティブに捉えられるのが嫌だったのですが、 マホロアなら任せ られるなと(笑)。
Kumazaki: However, the Dream Kingdom itself is a story from a different worldview, so it's not as if he is atoning for his previous sins (from the story of "Kirby's Return to Dream Land"). If anything, I wanted to create a character that had a commercial interest in the mechanics of billing. I didn't like the negative perception of billing, but I thought I could trust Magolor to handle it (laughs).
SOURCE: https://twitter.com/ohka895/status/1467710202162343941||

[austere willow]

FUCKIN CRYING WHAT DOES THSI MEAN

IS HE JUST STUCK THERE?

[austere willow]

is his Dream Friend form just ||not canon??????????||

[kindred smelt]

Wait I just realized if ||every what if scenario is a result of a single thing changing in the timeline then what was the singular event that led to the existence of the dream kingdom maybe the ancients weren’t destroyed in that scenario maybe?||

[steel elk]

Like I said before ||I figure that Lor came back for him||

[prime belfry]

||I can't believe were taking free to play gameplay to make you buy gem apples as lore relevance 💀 ||

[topaz wren]

||they do be taking on a potentially peak GK so it makes sense||

[gray glacier]

Sorry for interruption. Has the Truer Arena been confirmed yet? ||Those new boss fights are so cool. I want to analyze their patterns and do a no-ability run!!!||

[lofty condor]

Not yet

[gray glacier]

Alright.

[lofty condor]

||God I still can't believe we saw the fall of Halcandra lol||

[honest ibex]

wait what

[austere willow]

I CANT BELIEVE ||TEAM KIRBY CLASH IS CANON EVEN IF ITS AN AU||

[steel elk]

||SO THAT'S WHERE THE CROWN FIGHT TOOK PLACE?!||

[lilac arch]

||Is it just me or does the final boss theme use the leitmotif from star conquering traveler||

[honest ibex]

its not an au anymore if its canon

[austere willow]

so FUCKED UPPPPP

[honest ibex]

oh that im stupid

[topaz wren]

||given the way what-ifs work in project maybe the whole "same thing generally but one big detail changed" is how they treat different timelines. So, I dunno, maybe dream kingdom is some version of halcandra with no destruction but I can't really see what connects it to halcandra specifically||

[honest ibex]

||idk why it didnt click for me that the image on the right was halcandra||

[steel elk]

||HOLY FUCK?!||

[lofty condor]

The background of ||Master Crown's boss fight shows a city similar to Egg Engines being destroyed by meteors and covered in flames. I assumed the Crown was responsible for it's fall, seeing how it warped Magolor to that specific time for some reason.||

[austere willow]

THIS OS FUCKED UP!!!!!!!

the shake up of the CENTURY

[prime belfry]

ayooo

[austere willow]

is he just Gone. Is he just stuck in ||Dream Kingdom we still dont know if Dream Freinds are canon or not. ALSO SKC DREAM KINGDOM HAS LIKE CAMEOS FROM KSA DREAM FREINDS||

[vocal latch]

||Can't wait when they fucking announce Duper Kirby Clash which combines the story of Deluxe & Super into one cohesive setting||

[steel elk]

||We're so getting Kirby Clash 3 at some point, aren't we?||

[novel fog]

||well, there's Dream Collection||

[prime belfry]

Shoutouts to Magolor
🙏
Gotta be one of my favorite characters

[austere willow]

Right. Right Dream Collection exists

[novel fog]

||and we know he is building theme parks in various worlds||

[vocal latch]

||There's also Dedede's Drum Dash Deluxe||

[misty onyx]

||crazy how magolor just became one of the most fleshed out kirby characters||

[prime belfry]

||a Clash game without paying would be peak||

||Imagine a Kirby RPG||

[steel elk]

||Yeah, Lor definitely came back for him.||

[austere willow]

So youre telling me the fucking timeline is like

[vocal latch]

||Since Kirby’s Return to Dream Land, Magolor has gained a talent for constructing theme parks and attractions. The motif of Dedede’s Drum Dash Deluxe is also a theme park, so this was actually a project Magolor worked on! It makes sense to feature him as a guest character. "Magolor’s whereabouts are uncertain after Kirby’s Return to Dream Land, but he seems pretty lively here. After roaming around the dimension beyond space and time, he might’ve found an exit. When Kirby and his friends returned home, maybe Magolor traveled around building theme parks in different worlds.
SOURCE: https://kirbydevpostarchive.tumblr.com/post/164953710086/hal-laboratory-イシダ-hallaboratory-01232015-427||

[austere willow]

||RtDL -> TKCDX/SKC(?) -> get enough money -> build theme parks/somehwo reunite with the Lor -> say sowwy to Kirby via Dream Collection -> possibly Magoland??????????||

[vocal latch]

||What if Dedede's Drum Dash Deluxe wasn't mainline Dedede but Dream Kingdom Dedede all along ||

[prime belfry]

Holy

[vagrant cave]

The game got leaked?

[prime belfry]

Nah bro there is no way Kumazaki remembered that

[urban bluff]

not leaked

[clever zinc]

|| I haven't heard the full theme but there could be since void termina literally spawns master crowns during his fight ||

[steel elk]

||Given that Magolor says things got hectic when he came back to Dreamland, I'd be amused to see how that played out||

[urban bluff]

some people just posted their copy gameplay early

[vagrant cave]

bro I better not see no profisa gaming video with the final boss in the center of the thumbnail

[urban bluff]

basically leaked but like not leaked? idk it's honestly vague

thankfully beardbear don't do big crazy spoiler all final boss thumbnail

[austere willow]

bro its releasing tomorrow its not leaks anymore the games just out

[lean grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-scared-scream-eyelashes-gif-24036186

WAIAT WHAT THE FUCK

OH SHIT

[honest ibex]

LMAO

[vagrant cave]

oh

I gotta wait till Friday

[topaz wren]

||English intro for magoland really making it sound like it's an alternative timeline where no betrayal happened but still this makes a lot of sense...||

[honest ibex]

||ok yeah it finally hit me that its literally egg engines||

[vagrant cave]

I wanna talk here

But

[austere willow]

thsi is the spoilers channel

[vagrant cave]

I also don't wanna be spoiled

[austere willow]

if u dont want spoilers go to the other one

[prime belfry]

go to the non spoiler thread

[vagrant cave]

idc about spoilers that much

[austere willow]

we have it as the first word for a reason

[prime belfry]

Then talk here

[austere willow]

contradictory, i will now ignore you

[vagrant cave]

the only thing I care about is footage of the final bosses

[austere willow]

So what is ||Doomer lore||

[prime belfry]

that what we talking about

so yeah

[vagrant cave]

oh

bye

[prime belfry]

might be safe to not talk here rn

[lofty condor]

||Bandee and the other Dream Kingdom inhabitants watching the Gem Apple Tree come to life and start destroying their homes||

[prime belfry]

bye

[austere willow]

||why did it spawn when the MASTER CROWN shows up||

[vocal latch]

oh he did (July 2017 Nintendo Dream)

[fathom cradle]

||I think it got attracted to the power of the master crown fragments||

Like with the ||mast and energy spheres||

[vagrant cave]

Ppl in Australia get the game Thursday right?

[vocal latch]

||It's the Master Crown taking that Gem Apple||

[fathom cradle]

Then after you beat it ||funny master crown shows up||

[misty onyx]

||looks like a doomer infused with broken shards of the master crown eats the apple, and after magolor defeats the doomer the shards attach themselves to the apple||
someone please correct me on this if im wrong

[austere willow]

yeah but the thing its the ||Master Crown shards that spawn it and eats the apple, not the crown||

[urban bluff]

no king ||the crown shards landed on the apple and become the doomer||

[steel elk]

||Can I just say that THIS PART OF THE CROWN FIGHT IN PARTICULAR WENT SO FUCKING HARD||

[austere willow]

||The doomer is not eating the crown the Doomer IS the crown||

[lofty condor]

||God he’s so huge||

[fathom cradle]

||oh I must have misunderstood then||

[steel elk]

||Oh my god, Magolor might've just planted a fucking Doomsday device in the Dream Kingdom and he isn't even aware||

[fathom cradle]

||hmm well crown always had a weird connection to doomers. Magolor summons doomers in phase 1 through the star portals and crowned doomer does the same||

[kindred smelt]

||wait are the giant gem apple and master crown the same being||

[topaz wren]

||OH I posed a similar question, I was wondering if the crown basically has the ability to manifest any form it chooses based on what it needs...||

[burnt slate]

||nah he's fully aware and wanted to do that for laughs and free bombs||

[austere willow]

||again its the Crown that took over the tree not the Apple being evil themselves||

[steel elk]

||Oooh||

[prime belfry]

||"If this dimension gets destroyed i go to another one lmao"||

[lean grotto]

[urban bluff]

note, king ||crowned doomer summons the doomers with gear, not just normal one. but yeah I am lead to believe every move on magolor boss that has to do with star portal and not magic circle are part of master crown's power||

[kindred smelt]

||maybe the crowned doomed was protecting the gem apple to prevent the master crown from taking it over akin to landia||

[lean grotto]

||pissed you didnt fight it like this||

[austere willow]

Also

WHAT WERE THE 4 ||SMALLER CROWNED DOOMERS WE SAW FROM THE TRAILERS||

[urban bluff]

it's a ||boss fight. also they don't have master crown part on them||

[austere willow]

show me

[urban bluff]

we have no footage of them. I think?

[novel fog]

||probably 4th main boss, they have smaller fragments of the Fruit Fragment in their mouth||

[austere willow]

bites you ferally

[vapid kestrel]

We dont even know their name

[novel fog]

||also wonder what name for full fruit is||

[vocal latch]

||Dude I fucking love this mode's lore like Kuma you literally showed all the lore shit I WANTED YOU TO SHOW I LOVE YOU||

[fathom cradle]

There's no footage, we've only inferred this from ||credits||

[vagrant cave]

Does C-R-O-W-N-E-D get a remix?

[fathom cradle]

But we can tell ||4 doomers are one of the main 4 bosses||

[vocal latch]

It's a motif throughout

||Kuma is a legend for fucking mixing Magolor, 0² & Whispy Woods as final boss||

[steel elk]

||So the Doomer Quad, Spark Dooter, Fire Puffer, and Hydriath are the four bosses you face within areas||

[vocal latch]

yea

[vagrant cave]

I should have used the Australian eShop to preorder the game smh

[austere willow]

wait you can see the damn ||Dream Kingdom towers||

GOD.

||I CANT BELIEVE ITS CANON IN A [yeah they can travel to that dimension] WAY||

[vocal latch]

||I TOLD YOU||

[misty onyx]

||what i would do for some pause screen lore rn this is all too confusing||

[austere willow]

evolved from ||uh this is an eshop title we do what we want so maybe its canon who knows|| to ||Its a Canon Universe in the Kirby Series||

[steel elk]

||So I guess that means Galacta Knight is indirectly canon now||

[austere willow]

WAIT

DONNNNNNNNNNNNNNT TELL ME......................

THE REASON GK NEVER APPEARS IN MAINLINE. ||IS BECAUSE HES FROM DREAM KINGDOMAND ONLY DREAM KINGDOM||

[honest ibex]

yep

[vocal latch]

||Just wait for Triple Deluxe remake to show Taranza enter the Clash Universe with the Dimension Mirror now distorted with darkness||

[austere willow]

PLEAK

PLEEK

PLEASE

[fathom cradle]

||now I really wonder what gk's pause description will say||

[vocal latch]

SAME

[fathom cradle]

He's destined to remain ||arena exclusive|| lol

[austere willow]

What a dream battle!

What a dream battle!

[vocal latch]

||If they reference Aeon Hero (Dark) lmfao||

[honest ibex]

i feel like pause screen descriptions wont change much but maybe thats just my copium

[vocal latch]

||ME||

[steel elk]

||The Final Arena is gonna make you square off with Aeon Hero Light or Dark, isn't it?||

[lofty condor]

||Magolor Epilogue||

[austere willow]

we dont even know if theres one

[steel elk]

||IF there is one anyway||

[austere willow]

theres indications that even reviewers dont know

and may not exist

[steel elk]

||Maybe the True Arena simply unlocks after beating both Extra Mode and Magolor Epilogue?||

[austere willow]

no

we have a day left, so

we will see

[steel elk]

Fair enough

[novel fog]

well a day as in like 8 hours

[vocal latch]

||I'd be a bit disappointed if there's no Final Arena||

[steel elk]

||I'd love an arena where we can square off against Master Crown, and maybe even a new take on Magolor's fight?||

[vocal latch]

||Lmfao now I kinda want Kuma to make Super Duper Kirby Clash which is like the definitiv Clash experience||

[fathom cradle]

||if there is no 3rd arena that means gk really is stuck in true arena lmao||

[vocal latch]

||Like seriously if you combine Deluxe & Super's story somehow to actually be understandable it'd be COOL||

[lilac arch]

||The lack of stars in the epilogue bosses worries me that will be the case||

[lean grotto]

the only way youll get me to ||play a clash game is remove the mtx||

[steel elk]

||I think that's only the case because Magolor has no use for them||

[misty onyx]

ok someone correct me if im wrong here,
||>so the master crown, or a previous user of the master crown, was the galactic crisis (and possibly the fall of halcandra) that the magic ancients prevented

the crown was entrusted to landia(?) to keep it from falling into the wrong hands
magolor gets ahold of the crown, the crown gets destroyed and scattered and magolor gets lost between dimensions
magolor reassembles this apple (which we don't know exactly what it is yet) and the fragments of the master crown possesses it, manifesting into the form we see
magolor defeats the master crown, and takes the seed of the apple, which he uses to plant the gem apple tree in TKCD/SKC
lor starcutter eventually finds magolor and brings him back to dreamland ||

[vocal latch]

||Yeah, though the first part we really don't know for sure of course.||

[misty onyx]

right, so that would be just current speculation

[marble jungle]

||Anyone seen True Arena info yet? Any new spin in it?||

[steel elk]

||I don't think so.||

[misty onyx]

but the fact that|| the crown itself is sentient leads me to believe that the crown itself was the galactic crisis and not a user of it||

[lofty condor]

||Yeah, that’s what I think||

||Imagine the world ending because of a tree lol||

[misty onyx]

||so with all this in mind would it be wrong to say that it's possible that during the galactic crisis the master crown might have had a different form that wasnt the tree||

[steel elk]

||What was the Galactic Crisis?||

[misty onyx]

||i'm thinking that the reason the master crown took the form of the tree during the final battle was because of the apple.||

[jolly valve]

||I'm half convinced that there's no Final Arena since only 4 bosses got variants in Eggologue. Of course, nothing's stopping them from adding more new bosses or even just reusing the EX bosses||

[misty onyx]

||galactic crisis was an event that happened during the time of the ancients. it was prevented by the magic ancients, which led to the technology ancients fearing their power and banishing them to the edge of the galaxy||

[steel elk]

||I get the feeling they might do what they did with Soul Melter EX and add like a special input to the True Arena where you can fight the Epilogue bosses and more||

[kindred smelt]

||I mean soul melter ex reused goldon and silvox||

[misty onyx]

i dont think i need to spoiler tag that bc its from SA but for the sake of the context i will^^

[austere willow]

GOD SO

HOW DOES ||VOID TERMINA RECREATE THE MASTER CROWN?|| LIKE WHY IS IT ADORNED WITH IT sometimes

is ||the master crown an earlier Void Termina incarnation???||

[novel fog]

||imagine purposely incarnating Void into a crown lol||

[wheat kettle]

Is the crown even affiliated with dark matter anymore

[austere willow]

when was it

besides like

Visually

(which now means nothing, because theres been so many villains after that )

[novel fog]

||like what do you do, just show it a crown?||

[kindred smelt]

||void probably manifests it from memories like Kirby does with his dream friend attack||

[jolly valve]

||Yeah but that's just one boss. This time we missing Whispy, Metal General, and Landia. Though they could use Parallel Susie and Landia as a replacement for those two for more SKC shenanigans lmao.||

[austere willow]

SO WHY DOES IT ||MEMORIES||

[urban bluff]

||green tree memories||

||wait holy shit is the song technically about master crown??????????/||

[mortal jungle]

Do we know if extra mode has anything new?

[novel fog]

||probably not, but it sort of fits||

[fathom cradle]

No

[austere willow]

we dont, Inkling Madoki

[supple scaffold]

Soul Melter EX also is the only place where you can fight the EX Mage Sisters individually

[kindred smelt]

||idk but all of voids weapons appear and dissapear as manifested memories from the generals and even void terminal’s body could be a memory as well||

[novel fog]

well there's more enemies and less food, but that's all we know

[supple scaffold]

So they reused Goldon + Silvox, and added 3 more bosses in SMEX alone

[wheat kettle]

Maybe true arena will have something else wielding master crown

other than ||t r e e||

[steel elk]

||Given the Crown has a giant fucking eyeball when it's like this, I'm willing to bet that's why Magolor's final form had an eyeball in his mouth||

[storm grail]

||maybe pointed out already, but this leaf shape is known as cordate, aka... The Shape of a Heart||

oh my pic didnt send lol

[lofty condor]

||Oh yeah this eyeball looks||
||Way different from the Dark Matter lookalike in Mag’s second form lol||

[wheat kettle]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OSOurCNze3Y moment

[austere willow]

isnt this the music for the stage results screen

[wheat kettle]

Dont know, i just remember that name from star allies

[austere willow]

for Magolor Epilogue

[fathom cradle]

the ||spade leaves give me huge marx vibes, plus the multicolored wings||

this really kind of is a mishmash of a lot of stuff lol

[austere willow]

Pleak. Dont tell me ||Marx is related to the master crown.............||

[fathom cradle]

probably not it just has a similar look to me

would be mad funny tho

[thin prairie]

||Marx epilogue foreshadowing? ||

[vocal latch]

[fathom cradle]

actually ||The wings both being multicolored and having the gold branches||

[wheat kettle]

||me when tree has a leaf halo, not 02 reference fr||

[honest ibex]

||im gonna theorize that this "seed" flew away and sprouted into the tiny lil tree we see at the beginning of SKC/TKCD||

[wheat kettle]

||watch the end lmfao||

[austere willow]

||no we already saw the sprout. watch the rest of the credits||

[kindred smelt]

||nova probably just gave Marx power similar to the master crown||

[honest ibex]

o

[steel elk]

||Do we see this sword anywhere else?||

[honest ibex]

i mean its the same idea

[austere willow]

its just part of the decor of the altar bg

[honest ibex]

he planted it im sure

[misty onyx]

||first we got more nova lore in robobot, now we got more master crown lore, i wonder which ancient artifact will be next||

[novel fog]

||it's on the altar, if you mean earlier games I don't think so||

[steel elk]

||Ah, I see||

[jolly valve]

||Another thing that that might factor into the no Final Arena thing is the lack of star projectiles from the bosses. But I would really much love to be wrong lmao||

[austere willow]

||so do we know what these AD parts are. If we just saw Halcandra, if we just saw Dream Kingdom... what the FUCK is the architecture of the AD parts||

[mortal jungle]

||It also looks like a spade which apparently can represent a leaf in the “cosmic tree”. Don’t really know what that means but it sounds cool.||

[honest ibex]

star rod

[austere willow]

is it ||"sucked in" stuff from the Fall of Halcandra?||

[wheat kettle]

||but magolor cant use the stars so maybe they were hidden to not clog up the screen||

[kindred smelt]

||there are a lot of projectiles to inhale tho so the lack of stars could be part of the challenge (copium)||

[austere willow]

||this would be easily solvable by making something like Ultimate Choice where you never need to inhale given that you had a copy ability||

[fervent pollen]

Worried that the Extra Mode might just copy-paste the Main Story scenario like in the original game. Anyone have any ideas for a fanon-made context for Extra Mode? You can't use Magolor help in Extra Mode, apparently, which lends credence to the idea that Extra Mode takes place after Story, and either before or during Magolor Epilogue.

I know people know more about the Epilogue than I do so that's why I'm asking here.

[austere willow]

but i think people wouldve mentioned somethng like that

[misty onyx]

||i was thinking that too, but dedede tour and meta knightmare returns still has the stars even though they can't use them (inhaling or grab attacks)||

[austere willow]

extra mode is just extra mode...

Its fine that Extra Mode "is the same" because we got a whole new post game

[storm grail]

oh yeah cordate leaves just look inherently spade shaped irl too so ye

[wheat kettle]

kirby quadruple deluxe when

[austere willow]

its Kirby Triple Deluxe Ultra smh

[fervent pollen]

But that's boring. The bosses get different colors and HR-D3 appears! That can't just be for nothing!

[novel fog]

there's more enemies and less health items, but yeah it seems to be mostly the same

[steel elk]

I doubt Extra Mode will offer much new that the original game's Extra Mode didn't.

[wheat kettle]

Probably nothing new

[fathom cradle]

i doubt the new enemy placements will amount to anything that feels too different lol

[wheat kettle]

Just hope true arena has new things

[kindred smelt]

||then again those two don’t have attacks that make the switch melt lol and magolor has 4 player||

[fervent pollen]

As I said, fan-ideas for a new context. like fanfiction

[austere willow]

its just extra mode

[misty onyx]

||that's a good counter point and also copium||

[austere willow]

God wait.

[steel elk]

||I just wouldn't see the point in them adding all these new boss fights into the epilogue and not including them in an arena later on in any shape or form||

[austere willow]

if... HR-D3 is also a "Dream Battle"

is he literally just...

from an AU where GCN happened.

[novel fog]

I mean what do you make of Galacta then lol

[austere willow]

||theyre from Dream Kingdom||

[steel elk]

Given that Parallel Nightmare uses an attack from it, I think it might just be from the Mass Attack subgame

[fervent pollen]

Given the color scheme and association with Metal General, I doubt it.

[novel fog]

||oh they could do that lol||

[austere willow]

Metal General could have just repainted it

i mean he lives there

[vocal latch]

||He's based on the Dream Kingdom King omg 😱||

[untold rock]

found this theory that seemed interesting

[fathom cradle]

if we do get ||3rd arena, make the hr d3 dedede colored lol||

[fervent pollen]

And I don't care. Be creative!

[austere willow]

||again its not the apple thats bad its the crown||

[wheat kettle]

Why is the magolor epilogue theme called apple of condemnation

Thats a weird choice

[misty onyx]

spoiler tag

[austere willow]

idk how people are looking at the same final boss clip and going ||Yep the APPLES and TREE are evil.||

[fervent pollen]

Fruit of knowledge reference maybe?

[wheat kettle]

Wasnt it on twitter tho

[untold rock]

i just wonder how ||the master crown ties to void||

after this

[steel elk]

||Sad that we never saw Susie anywhere, given she was stuck in Another Dimension for a while, too||

[austere willow]

i mean there are many threads

[misty onyx]

not u, the youtube comment

[fervent pollen]

It'll probably be Revealed via pause screen descriptions

[untold rock]

||Super Kirby Clash||

[clever zinc]

Has anybody released the ost to youtube

[austere willow]

||WE could assume hte master crown is from void, IS void, or created by void||

[fathom cradle]

honestly pause descriptions probably won't provide nearly as much clarity as ppl want lol

those things are tiny

[novel fog]

no, game is not dumped yet

[novel fog]

I mean they have a bit

[wheat kettle]

My bad

[clever zinc]

Aww

[novel fog]

more than I expected them to at least lol

[fathom cradle]

i'm not saying they won't have info, but with how many connections ||master crown|| seems to have i'm sure there'll still be plenty left a mystery

[novel fog]

of course lol
just might provide more context for stuff in general

[austere willow]

i mean when i say KUMAZAKI WHAT DO YOU MEANNNN

i dont mean i will see the answer in the game

[kindred smelt]

Isn’t the crown made by the ancients?

[austere willow]

i literally say this in the context that he will spout more things in interviews

[austere willow]

According to Magolor

[burnt moth]

||LESGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO KIRBY CLASH 3||

||Or 4 if you count the PR minigame||

[fathom cradle]

Yeah i wasn't saying that as a reply to you dw lol

So close until I can play

[leaden terrace]

dawg

where do i start in reading all this

help

or do i literally just go to oldest messages

[wheat kettle]

||I just watched the boss fight video again for the Nth time and I noticed the fact that there are only a few shards of the master crown left, could it be the only reason why magolor managed to defeat it be the fact that it was severely weakened post game after it controlled magolor and was defeated by kirby?||

[leaden terrace]

oh no

it doesnt pop up in search

oh god no

ah well brb

[vast basin]

Question ||where does the crown even come from||

||The shards of it at least||

[austere willow]

||its sent alongside with him when he dies||

in main mode

story

[wheat kettle]

Presumably the broken crown after magolor was destroyed?

[austere willow]

it only really suddenly ||appears at like the last second or possibly even earlier before that because the smaller Quad Crowned Doomers are there||

but the shards been in the trailer even

[viral wharf]

doesn't even look like that happens 😭

it breaks and then magolor goes bye bye

[wheat kettle]

I dont think they planned for this game that early did they

[austere willow]

Honestly

i imagine the whole cutscene where the RtDL gang escape from the purple helped by Landia and lor?

Magolor kinda just stayed in that purple

[viral wharf]

still looks like that in the remake though

[austere willow]

and i dont see why those shards "falling off"

[wheat kettle]

Oh damn

[austere willow]

can simply not just

stay in that same space

[viral wharf]

ourple

[austere willow]

like damn.

idk nitpicking about this is annoying

[viral wharf]

they animated it like they did though

[austere willow]

they animated it like it broke and thats the only thing that needed to happen.

[wheat kettle]

Did u read what he said

[viral wharf]

yeah

but they animated magolor going somewhere

[wheat kettle]

The purple dimension thingy just took the shards

[viral wharf]

he doesn't just stay there

[austere willow]

they'd still all be in AD regardless

[viral wharf]

fair ig

[austere willow]

thats like the point of said animation

even in the original

so idk why the Shards breaking in AD is an issue

[wheat kettle]

This is from the trailer

No spoilers

[steel elk]

The whole point of Magolor epilogue is to fill in what happened to him after his defeat and how he returned

[viral wharf]

yeah but still is odd

[vast basin]

I wonder if ||the shards got into the Doomer first and then transfered into the Apple during the possession||

[austere willow]

its as odd as Elfilin returning 10 seconds later like yeah thats odd

but thats hwo it be

[austere willow]

very possible

[wheat kettle]

||actually, my interpretation of the cutscene is that doomers are literally energy beings that the master crown is capable of manifesting||

[steel elk]

Elfilin probably had to go through hell another dimension as well for all we know

[austere willow]

oh tis server knows actually

So like

FL has time shenanigans

the portals

[indigo notch]

Any updates?

Is the rom up yet?

[austere willow]

Popstar time goes slower than FL time

[wheat kettle]

||watch how the crowned doomer spawns, i might be wrong||

[austere willow]

No the game is being released ina day there will be no roms and leaking

its just gonna be dumped without leaking

[indigo notch]

Wait so how did Beardbear get the game then?

[austere willow]

...

people get copies early dude

do people not know this

Physical Copies sent to people to "review" the game before the public gets it

thats hwo GameXplain has given it a rating before the 24th and such

[indigo notch]

Yeah I knew that but I assumed the final boss is like, against the rules to show if you were sent an official copy

[austere willow]

the embargo was already lifted

the embargo meaning the period of time when you Cant

as a general rule the embargo ends usually a day or two before release

which is why people block Spoiler channels on youtube

[indigo notch]

I know but like I remember back when FL came out people had copies early but reviewers were still like "I'm only gonna talk very vaguely about stuff past world 5"

[austere willow]

different embargo rules i guess?

[indigo notch]

Meanwhile prosafia still had elfilis up

[austere willow]

Yea

[vocal latch]

wait do JP fans nickname Epilogue Magolor as ボロロア (Bororoa) lmfao

https://twitter.com/hashtag/ボロロア?src=hashtag_click

[austere willow]

in any case the embargo for RtDLDX is lifted

[indigo notch]

It's just weird is all

[austere willow]

and that means any footage seen now is not inidicative of a "leak"

the amount of people begging and waiting for this game to leak...