#Kirby RtDL Deluxe Leaks/Datamines

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vast minnow
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Now I just feel dumb

tawdry cairn
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It's fine, just letting you know it's fine to talk about it in main thread

vast minnow
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Yea

regal matrix
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||considering this is kirby and it gets leaked fast did the new final boss get data mined lol||

tawdry cairn
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No

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So far it looks like the biggest thing that has leaked from the demo is the full mask list

regal matrix
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I see

remote kindle
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||some of the mask sounds will be hilarious||

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||like daroach who im guessing uses the squeak from the squeak squad theme||

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||and what sound will gooey even make||

remote kindle
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||oddly enough both landia and boss magolors voices start with Yy||

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||is this because they are also bosses||

rigid reef
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||Gooey will make the "mlem" tongue sound, most likely||

mortal dock
remote kindle
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||wait yeah waddle dee does have it too||

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||and all of them also have "omen" in the name||

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||maybe its sounds used elsewhere in the game but not by playable characters||

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||wait no clawroline has it too||

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||then i have no idea||

spark forge
hallow laurel
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yy = waiwai

high nimbus
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||SusieHoliday. strange that it's exclusively just susie who has Holiday version||

mortal dock
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||susie holiday keeps making me think of deltarune||

wheat urchin
vivid rover
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Not sure how I feel about the ||Magolor Epilogue level theme from the trailer||

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I like the first part but I kinda wished the brooding tone was kept for the whole song

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And didnโ€™t turn triumphant

mortal dock
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you can talk about the epilogue in the main thread btw

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this one's now just for datamines and unrevealed leaked content which are so far limited

bleak geyser
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all i care about is how it uses the under my control motif

placid nacelle
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Guys, the ||Smiling Elfilin|| Mask just leaked1!!1!! (not really)

wheat urchin
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kick Thedu

placid nacelle
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stuckinpaldea (I deserve it)

cedar monolith
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God that actually scared me

median crater
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i was not expecting that <3

worn bridge
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That is horrifying

frigid hollow
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I kinda want to make a theory for the ||Magolor Epilogue/Parallel|| Bosses

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Theory Time: ||I feel like Magolor's power has been taken by the secret boss (who may have created the Master Crown and Sphere Doomers) of the mode to create these brand new way crazier bosses, in fact it might be the reason Magolor is in this pickle in the first place, it just needed a host for it to manifest outside Another Dimension, or something like that||

mighty breach
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My theory is that ||magolor lost his power because the crown sucked his power juice all out of him. He is being guided by some voice he'll probably meet at the altar. The elemental bosses may be protectors/guardians of whatever collectible magolor needs to lit up the altar's candles (altar in image) to summon said voice's body which could be

  1. Master Crown
  2. Galacta Knight
  3. Morpho / Hades
  4. New villain
  5. The Lor
  6. papi (lmaoooo)
    And their intentions may range from betraying magolor and escaping this place between dimensions to cause evil or see if magolor truly is worthy enough of being given a second chance||
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Wait this is the leak chat lol

manic kite
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Yes and you my good person are in dangerous waters

mighty breach
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what waters lololunch

balmy dragon
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||Hopefully they add more masks in an update||

frigid hollow
mighty breach
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Fair

echo mesa
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You're allowed to discuss anything about the game in the main chat rn except for the datamined masks not in trailers

deft idol
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Somehow those leaked masks remind me of the outfits in Box Boy + Box Girl, where ||most of them serve as prizes for minigames, some are available after beating a certain mode and the others are bonus of 100%. They do slightly change the way Quby moves and even unlock secret endings.||

scarlet ether
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||the secret abilities remind me of Part Time UFO costumes, does Boxboy also have similar thing with theirs? they are all HAL games, makes sense they use similar system for the cosmetics lol||

deft idol
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Boxboy games feature a few interesting extra abilities. Some changes speed, and some can even automatically collect crowns that are missed. It would be so cool if the masks could function as a character customization tool.

scarlet ether
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ah, so like Part Time UFO

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and we've already seen Kine mask have a function (gives Water's enhanced water gun), so maybe the others will too

deft idol
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Actually, I wore the Waddle Dee masks when fighting Whispy Woods and got hit by an apple. To my surprise, I lost about 50% of health bar. I don't know whether the mask reduced the maximum hp or I was just unlucky.

vast minnow
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Were you fighting ex whispy?

deft idol
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Yes. The ex one.

vast minnow
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O

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Yeah the Apple can mess a guy up fast

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Itโ€™s not the mask (i think)

deft idol
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In that case, the ex boss fights really have become harder because I can remember the original Wii version hits like 1/5 or 1/6 of the full health.

vast minnow
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Whispy difficult????????

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The staring contest of all time

noble lynx
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WAIT WHAT

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oh it was whispy ex

deft idol
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I experimented on it myself. I could have run into a Gordo instead of an apple and that's why it dealt so much damage. Apples are just as they were before. Plus, whether wearing the mask or not makes no difference to damage points. Sorry for the misinformation.

vast minnow
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Bruh

dull jay
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Kinda weird that we're getting ex masks instead of epilogue masks

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Unless they're also called ex in the files

vast minnow
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That would be cool

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But I think it might be more likely itโ€™s just the ex ones

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Because magolor ex has one and he isnโ€™t a magologue boss because magolor

scarlet ether
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||and you get the EX masks from Extra Mode lol||

hoary oar
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Seems to be a ||new animation for Doomers called TransformWait||

vast minnow
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What

scarlet ether
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||could it be for the Epilogue Doomers? could also just be unused leftover||

hoary oar
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||It just pulsates in place in that pose||

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||Its kind of like the animation for when they shoot an orb but without the shooting motion at the end||

tawdry cairn
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||reminds me of grand doomer finale except it's being applied to normal doomers here||

scarlet ether
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||yeah, is it leftover from Grand or something||

hoary oar
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||Actually this is the shot animation vs transform animation so it's different||

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Anger animation, which we saw in the footage of the four doomers

noble lynx
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reminds me of how Grand Doomer would charge up

tawdry cairn
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Also I mean specifically ||the part after you get rid of grand doomers shield and he starts charging||

hoary oar
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Or wait maybe that was a different animation

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The trailer starts fading out but I think this is the same animation

scarlet ether
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||was the Anger animation in Clash too or no||

hoary oar
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||I mean it's possible they changed regular doomers to also use it but no reason to assume that ig||

tawdry cairn
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Wait what about ||ice doomer charging up and following you before blasting ice around it||

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Is that a separate animation

hoary oar
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Yea guess it's from clash

scarlet ether
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makes sense

hoary oar
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||The damage part of the anger animation's also here||

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||Mf moves like he's an animatronic on a fnaf title screen lmao||

worn bridge
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TRUE

hoary oar
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||Ok fine lemme pull up clash files too||

dull geode
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||20 feathers the ultimate doomer||

hoary oar
remote kindle
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||what mask is the least exciting one in your opinion?||

vast minnow
errant burrow
vast minnow
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Is there a doomer mask?

scarlet ether
tawdry cairn
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Actually that would be another funny parallel to ||grand doomer||

remote kindle
tawdry cairn
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And ig the ||doomers in general but yeah ||

remote kindle
vast minnow
scarlet ether
remote kindle
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i will check

tawdry cairn
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Since they'd be ||eating the funny big story collectible||

remote kindle
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||yeah no normal doomer||

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||but grand is in||

hoary oar
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||You know king I dunno if you're just right that these are leftovers from Grand Doomer||

tawdry cairn
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It could be that ||they're in from the epilogue doomers maybe since they could be a stand in for grand doomer in epilogue or something||

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Which could explain some of the similarities

hoary oar
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||Ok I just checked RtDL and his animations aren't named the same way||

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||It kinda looks like EatEnd leads into TransformWait||

scarlet ether
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||so maybe they're normal Doomers that transform from the fruit?||

hoary oar
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||Yea that'd be my guess||

scarlet ether
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||then why does it give them Lor-like motifs (like gears) thefear ||

tawdry cairn
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||OK but is the ice doomer animation of it charging up before doing the ice blasts different||

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Bc ||transform wait just looks the same as that, minus the actual part where it starts exploding snow||

hoary oar
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||Yea the pose is slightly different, he leans forward more for the Shot and SprinklerShot animations than in Transform||

scarlet ether
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||does Whispy have anything interesting with its animations or no||

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||wondering if there's any Epilogue leftovers in there (if Whispy is in that mode)||

wheat urchin
remote kindle
errant burrow
scarlet ether
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||I mean it isn't Energy Spheres though?||

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||unless fruit = gears||

errant burrow
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||i mean it is a motif||

scarlet ether
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||yeah, but just asking in the case of the Doomers||

errant burrow
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||i'm just assuming its supposed to be like how energy spheres contain energy and so like
i guess these doomers have had lots of energy or whatever the lore is||

scarlet ether
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||though wouldn't explain the gears (unless it is just that it is same energy that Lor and similar uses)||

slim pasture
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Iโ€™m hyped

bright anchor
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I'm concerned, the fact that more gcn Kirby material resurfaced on rtdlDX

wheat urchin
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||wait what||

bright anchor
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Means that they still have the game somewhere?

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Animations and such

scarlet ether
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I mean, why wouldn't they have it

bright anchor
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Oh well

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You know

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It just that
Is there really hope that they would release such project one day?

vague vector
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I mean they literally ported the source code for a game that was built off gcn. Why WOULDN'T they is the question

scarlet ether
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but maybe someday it'll get leaked somehow

vague vector
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Yeah but that's probably not gonna happen ๐Ÿ’”

worn bridge
noble lynx
noble lynx
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they literally straight up took those animations

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including the unused ones

errant burrow
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yeah they carry over unused animations all the time

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like, FL Morpho for example has animations carried from all the way back of RtDL Meta Knight

noble lynx
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yeah there's really no news about this

scarlet ether
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well, they weren't in original at all
so it is a little interesting

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because they didn't take just RTDL's animations

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so it is first time we're getting the data of some of these

errant burrow
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||you know looking at the masks there aren't any new characters at all
besides whatever Adeleine and Ribbons alts will be
and Susie's holiday outfit
but those are rewards exclusive to missions so they obviously aren't story related

anyway no rewards from any other modes besides like a single magolor epilogue mask i guess but like
there's also not even any hints that the magolor epilogue would even have their own bosses in these masks let alone any new ones
i guess this is the ultimate way of avoiding spoilers and keeping most of them stamp rally awards but i would have thought they'd toss around more of this stuff for rewards in the other modes instead of just stuff that already existed in the series before||

dull jay
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||Susie holiday outfit is her outfit when she got lost and she'll be lost in another dimension. You'll find her in the background of epilogue leepertroll ||

dull jay
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I still wonder what the ||magolor bosses|| masks are. Is one || soul|| and the other ||crowned||? Are they both ||crowned or soul||????

errant burrow
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||seems to just be the first form, and then the first form ex||

cloud pasture
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||Legit the only Susie Holiday outfit I can think of is her Hinamatsuri one||

high nimbus
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wouldn't it be funny if ||they gave susieholiday such an out of nowhere name then it turns out to be susanna aka pre-AD susie||

quaint osprey
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Honestly

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Id like that

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Would fit with ||past sectonia||

lofty slate
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||maybe they can give him a few more new powers/attacks tho like the Fectos or flame waves or maybe even something brand new to at least make his fight a bit more interesting and unique from the others idk||

lofty slate
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||Hellacta Knight, keeper of the Underworld leepertroll ||

warm salmon
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alright I don't want to follow leaks/datamines much myself, and maybe this is old news, but looking at text strings I found this (which I don't think is used in the demo, if it is I am dumb LOL but wanted to be safe in case it's unused)

||so in the demo you can only earn masks in magoland... right? this is dialogue from souvenir shop waddle dee in story mode, saying that if you have unclaimed masks that the magoland button will show up. so apparently in the full game you can get masks outside of magoland?||

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unless I'm reading this wrong

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but hey I want to play safe

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silently leaves thread bye

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I lied, I am back just to post this

found text that explains the tickets

||lol boring||

again if this is old news I'm sorry I don't want to check and see stuff I don't want to see

scarlet ether
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||did we know their name and function before?||

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||I mean, I guess the function makes sense lol||

warm salmon
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and also this that implies that ||some masks are only unlocked after completing a specific stamp rally card||

warm salmon
scarlet ether
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||hope some of the cool masks aren't late||

warm salmon
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ok but bye for real lol

cloud pasture
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||Tbh I'm surprised how Classic Kirby isn't a mask||

scarlet ether
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||imagine if they made it an actual skin instead lol||

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||like Star Allies||

remote kindle
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||i wonder if shadow kirby will be the original or fighters||

scarlet ether
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||Fighters (specifically Fighters 2) from what we've seen||

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||has the white eyes||

remote kindle
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||wait was it in a trailer||

scarlet ether
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||yeah, commercial||

quaint osprey
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||if they would id hope they did similar skins for everyone else in the gang too||

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||imagine classic dedede and meta knight 3d models LMAO||

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||with bandee he would be just classic waddle dee with a bandana i guess||

scarlet ether
scarlet ether
quaint osprey
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so true

quaint osprey
worn bridge
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That one looks like

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||The classic shadow skin but with white eyes||

scarlet ether
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||I mean I could see it being Fighters 2, it is dark enough||

worn bridge
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True

errant burrow
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||I still have no clue what Ribbon's alt could be

honestly it's gonna be something if the Adeleine2 and Ribbon2 masks are literally just their P2 colors from SA||

novel fern
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Any new news or leaks?

quaint osprey
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||we learned what magoland tickets on the levels do||

quaint osprey
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Not that exciting but makes sense

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And im glad they are a thing

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||there's also text that suggests we might earn some masks outside of magoland||

errant perch
quaint osprey
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That would make sense

errant burrow
quaint osprey
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Must've missed that

errant perch
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Yea, the boss masks are unlocked in order so I assume so

scarlet ether
quaint osprey
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Demo sucks actually for not allowing whispy mask to be unlocked

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Also what i think is funny is that this was my complaint with FL
Where boss figurines were just as randomised as others

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Now they address it with masks

lofty slate
remote kindle
dull jay
remote kindle
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maybe i can try editing them in

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actually nope not doing that

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too much work

hoary oar
scarlet ether
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it technically could be but unlikely

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since even classic Shadow Kirby's colors are inconsistent lol

errant burrow
hallow laurel
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Just in case but don't get panicked just yet, because I don't have a definitive evidence

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I was told someone has the full game?

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I'm trying to look to the bottom of this

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but apparently the post was deleted

scarlet ether
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well, there is only two weeks before release now, so it isn't the most unlikely

hallow laurel
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if true, an actual NSP dump of the game could happen

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and that means it's the full game so

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but again

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not confirmed

scarlet ether
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yeah
though it could be like Star Allies where full game was out there but did not get dumped lol

hallow laurel
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I just wanna warn here to avoid people getting crazy

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if I see actual evidence I may discuss it in the main chat

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But again, it's a HUGE MAYBE for now.

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I just wanna have a bit of a pre warning

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just in case and to be vigilant

quaint osprey
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i will be on a look out

scarlet ether
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I was already on look out (and still will be)

hallow laurel
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I was shown actual evidence that stores have received Octopath II

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which is releasing on the same day as Kirby

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so they may have Kirby as well?

remote kindle
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i hope they do

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i want that music

hallow laurel
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That said no confirmation yet

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also

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stores can have a game super early

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but still not sell them

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it fully depends on whether an employee took the risk

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or if they broke the street date

scarlet ether
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yeah
though there's always the chance

hallow laurel
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which is definitely a bit common

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though 2 weeks early is definitely unlikely

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but not impossible

quaint osprey
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if this leaks it will be funny that remake leaked before full blown original game

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...i guess not gonna be the first time

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looking at pokemon bdsp

worn bridge
hoary oar
hallow laurel
quaint osprey
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no one really use xci anymore

worn bridge
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That's still something incredibly bold to say for a kirby game

hallow laurel
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I was just warned by someone who does not tell bullshit to me

hallow laurel
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Maybe that someone misunderstood

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it's not impossible

quaint osprey
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faye joked like yesterday about game leaking next week

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imagine

hoary oar
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Makes sense tbh

hallow laurel
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also Octopath II evidence

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but Kirby I was told of a reddit post that got deleted

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And btw

median crater
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oh man

hallow laurel
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Yes I asked if it was just the box or something

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since that leaked several times

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And I don't rule out a potential confusion about this

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but I prefer to give a bit of a pre warning

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a warning of a possible warning lol

quaint osprey
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i mean game is definitely ready and was sent out to some people

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hence hands-on previews existing

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so this would line up

worn bridge
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Do we know at least which subreddit that reddit post was made in?

quaint osprey
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r/swithpirates i presume

scarlet ether
quaint osprey
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ah

quaint osprey
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oh

hallow laurel
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I ended up asking more

scarlet ether
median crater
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damn

hallow laurel
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...and then it became "4chan said this and then the reddit post was deleted"

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...

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god my friend is such a doof

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i'm sorry

quaint osprey
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there's nothing really to apologize for

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we'll see i guess

hallow laurel
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I still asked other people who's involved in Switch hax and stuff

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just in case

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and told them to warn me if they see anything

marble vortex
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just looked at the mask list

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||no forgo|| : (

lofty slate
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Oof

vague vector
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if the game leaks on my bday then that would be the best bday gift ever

mortal dock
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breaking street date over a week before release deefear

mighty breach
hoary oar
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Can we get a leak more than a week before release Kapar

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Pls

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Pls

tawdry cairn
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No

craggy basalt
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The leak week cometh

high nimbus
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can it leak on valentines to be meaningful

quaint osprey
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Leaks on valentines so you can see Magolor getting heartbroken on that day

manic kite
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I hear a new leak

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...Oh wait that's blood

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...from a broken heart

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...After not seeing a leak on valentine's

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...Hey actually I don't want to be on this forum post

remote kindle
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did it leak yet

quaint osprey
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Trust me there would be way more messages if it did

remote kindle
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that makes sense

carmine spade
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||Really loving so far that they're giving alternate elemental forms to bosses like Mr. Dooter and Goriath||

sinful pelican
mellow snow
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Can the game leak on the 15th, thatโ€™s my birthday

cedar mango
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The chances of the game leaking a week in advance seem slim to me, FL leaked only a few days before release if I recall correctly

quaint osprey
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It's a crapshoot honestly

remote kindle
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im guessing it leaks next week

craggy frost
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I feel like it will on the 20th

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But yeah, a leak before release is likely. This far out? Probably still not

quaint osprey
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Switch games leaks don't really have any pattern

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It might leak sooner than FL purely because person in question would think nintendo ninjas wouldn't care as much if remake leaked instead of brand new release like FL was

high nimbus
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me looking at twitter of everyone I followed in different asian countries and spain to see where the game break street date early

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๐Ÿ‘๏ธ

vague vector
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you're like the second person that I found out yesterday that I shared a bday with

hallow laurel
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So I managed to look at the tile data for Lor Starcutter

mighty breach
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๐Ÿ‘๏ธ๐Ÿ‘๏ธ

hallow laurel
mighty breach
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Here we go

hallow laurel
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through a graphics viewer for N64

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lol

quaint osprey
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pff

worn bridge
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What am I looking at here

hallow laurel
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it works anyway you can still see what it is like lol

quaint osprey
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so the floor is there i guess

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we just cant see really whats inside

mighty breach
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????ok but what are the "rooms" above the main floor

hallow laurel
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bigger

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There are two Ship maps for some reason though

quaint osprey
hallow laurel
cloud pasture
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||Mfw Scope Shot hides here||

quaint osprey
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maybe faye will be able to look into this further

hallow laurel
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oh

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okay

quaint osprey
hallow laurel
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I think the other one is when you can access the ability rooms

quaint osprey
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makes sense

hallow laurel
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in any case that's the best way I can look at level data atm

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without having to use another software lol

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||That said I'm very confused about what's above||

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||We never got access to the above part, right?||

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I legit don't remember

quaint osprey
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i dont think???

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itd be wild if it was finally accessible now for some reason

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i always wanted to walk on lor's deck

mighty breach
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Could be the a ability rooms maybe?? Or are they in a completely different map

hallow laurel
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no the ability room is a different map

warm salmon
hallow laurel
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it's normal actually in the end

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but they put something weird

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well

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I can't say it without spoilers

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I need to look at the original map data

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in the original game

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this bothers me

warm salmon
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the files are .bin and .cdnbin which isn't compatible with neither the RtDL or SA level editors

hallow laurel
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thank god that the data is still a full tile based uncompressed thing

warm salmon
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and the 3D model is in parts so bleh

hallow laurel
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ah, have to compile MagoBox I guess

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....

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I am pretty darn convinced

quaint osprey
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so, what's your verdict

hallow laurel
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I was too lazy to compile Magobox

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so

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here's the same ship map but from the original game

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sus

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this is sus

worn bridge
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Huh

hallow laurel
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||There's indeed way more than meets the eye in Lor Starcutter||

warm salmon
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๐Ÿค”

hallow laurel
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||There's a full part above in the remake||

cloud pasture
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HUH

hallow laurel
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also the filenames add up

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it's the same filenames

vital seal
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||Maybe thats new section is the "dome" part of the ship with the galaxy windows||

hallow laurel
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||Maybe||

mighty breach
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Question is, how would that be accessed

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There's a roof in the main floor

hallow laurel
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who knows

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I don't know

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but this is by no means a mistake

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||There's something new in the boat||

worn bridge
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What are they cooking.....

hallow laurel
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Also it's obvious but they did extend the challenge room noticeably

warm salmon
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there are a bunch of model file names I cannot make sense of so have some lol

mighty breach
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||maybe that's here he keeps the apples||

hallow laurel
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in any case

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this is sus

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||Maybe this is where the new challenge stages are||

warm salmon
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dunno if this is just a coincidence though

hallow laurel
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SUS

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nah

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probably a coincidence

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but still

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it's worth exploring

warm salmon
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all of those together appear to make this

hallow laurel
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oh

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Well

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you know what

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I'll probably put the demo in Yuzu

warm salmon
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like this is it with another part of it selected

hallow laurel
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and explore

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and manually edit by hand the file

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with some luck I could maybe find my way

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the format is at least seemingly simple

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it's an array of uints

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several arrays, actually

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all I need to do is figure out how to delete shit

warm salmon
hallow laurel
#

That could be

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but we'll see

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maybe this is one of the few things they put in full

warm salmon
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

#

if you can test it that would be nice

#

I am just trying to understand 3D models (I don't)

hallow laurel
#

Well first I have to play the game and have a save

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inb4 Yuzu hates this demo

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and I have to use RyujiNX instead

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not that it changes much

warm salmon
#

well

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original vs remake

||shiptop really isn't in the original coolwth ||

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||but it could be just a new naming convention or whatever, that's not the only difference||

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going to see further

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it's almost identical

lyric socket
#

yeah

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looks pretty similar to the area where magolor is

mighty breach
warm salmon
#

inb4 it means nothing

#

yeah model wise they look identical

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||it's still possible though that they are just reusing assets for a top floor||

hallow laurel
#

okay so I can at least easily replace stuff

#

I just put In02 as In01 instead

#

that was the basic test

#

so it works at least

#

Now time to absolutely not understand what I will be doing

warm salmon
#

lol have fun

mighty breach
#

How is the lor this big anyways

#

bro has a pocket dimension inside

warm salmon
#

ancients magic or something idk

lyric socket
#

the lor in the demo doesn't seem to have any access points to a top area

nothing blocked off

hallow laurel
#

hmm

lyric socket
mighty breach
#

JUMP OFF

hallow laurel
#

nope

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it's not the collision

hallow laurel
#

which is good to know

#

I know what not to edit

#

OH MY GOD I CAN EDIT IN REAL TIME

#

I can just reload the map and it just works

#

okay then

#

this makes my job faster at least lol

#

oh wait

#

THIS IS REVERSED..?

#

OH

#

I GET IT NOW

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okay

#

I'm seeing the part in question

#

This is what the map actually looks like

#

And suddenly it makes a lot more sense

#

||So the top part is actually at the bottom, there's a bigger bottom part||

quaint osprey
#

WHAT ??

hallow laurel
worn bridge
quaint osprey
#

also to respond to earlier

#

we saw sand and mecha challenge stages with the rest of classic ones

#

so whatever's at the bottom its not them

worn bridge
#

Super abilities maybe?

cloud pasture
quaint osprey
warm salmon
#

oh lol ||I bet it's just bigger to have all subgames||

hallow laurel
#

It might just be to fit all subgames lol

quaint osprey
#

yeah but why if you literally have a button to get to them quicker

warm salmon
#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

quaint osprey
#

but this would make sense lol

#

ill keep coping for something more interesting

#

whatever that would be

mighty breach
#

The subgames being here leaves no point for Magoland

#

But.... new challenge stages? ๐Ÿ˜ณ๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿ‘ˆ

hallow laurel
#

I'm just walking in the challenge room on the right

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I'm standing actually

#

the collision is still there lol

worn bridge
quaint osprey
#

lmfao

mighty breach
#

there's 26 abilities, + one for the special item stage
That should be 27 little walkable collisions

hallow laurel
#

but yeah basically I removed the collision here

quaint osprey
#

there should be only 9 walkable colissions

mighty breach
#

but surely they would add more right kirbwah

hallow laurel
#

That said like

quaint osprey
#

i mean if they are gonna add any more

hallow laurel
#

the place is BIIIIG

quaint osprey
#

it would be the ones from new challenge stages in DC

#

and there's still not enough to have 26 in total

#

(and in one room)

hallow laurel
#

lemme record a video

mighty breach
#

Also I forgor Mike, Crash and Festival don't count

quaint osprey
#

yea

#

sleep too

#

so technically its like 22 abilities that are actually fully functional

mighty breach
#

23 challenge stages ClearlyYouDontLikeJazz

#

surely it has to be

iron helm
#

I'd say it looks like an ability testing area, but that's a little weird when the Lor already has ability testing areas.

quaint osprey
#

yeah exactly

#

each copy ability room has them

#

so like, it's either floor for all subgames

#

which would be kind of weird

#

or its some other weird thing we dont know about yet

#

i guess its weird either way lol

hallow laurel
#

it's not a testing area to me

#

anyway here's video

warm salmon
#

I guess it being space for all subgames makes sense but at the same time not

#

oh that is massive

warm salmon
hallow laurel
#

you can fit 10 subgames here

mellow snow
#

Yeah these are def for subgames

vast minnow
hallow laurel
#

hack

vast minnow
#

Ok

hallow laurel
#

that said I really do not understand the point of including subgames here

lyric socket
#

yeah

hallow laurel
#

unless the subgames are meant to be unlocked

#

again

quaint osprey
#

well we actually DO know that we unlock them

#

but like

warm salmon
hallow laurel
#

but it is still like

quaint osprey
#

it still makes magoland feel redundant

hallow laurel
#

weird

quaint osprey
#

also

#

imo there's too much space for 10 minigames

hallow laurel
#

depends if you make big doors for them

quaint osprey
#

perhaps

mighty breach
quaint osprey
#

even so it feels like its excessive

#

bizarre indeed

hallow laurel
#

it is a bit excessive though

#

but we won't have an answer until the game comes out or leaks

quaint osprey
#

maybe it's some sort of museum/database place for lore lol

#

let me dream

hallow laurel
#

anyway that was your little moment of hacking from me

mighty breach
#

Maybe it could work as a mini-title screen? With entrances to the arenas, epilogue, Magoland, etc

hallow laurel
#

I'm now actually considering using RyujiNX all the time

warm salmon
#

and jukebox (copium)

hallow laurel
#

just because I can edit files in real time

quaint osprey
hallow laurel
#

Yuzu actually does not let me do that

warm salmon
hallow laurel
#

I'd still need to reload the map

quaint osprey
#

arenas i can see maybe?

#

but it would be weird unless they actually make post-game version of lor

vague vector
#

WE WON

hallow laurel
#

but I mean, getting out of the Lor and back again does not take long lol

quaint osprey
#

yeah

warm salmon
# hallow laurel

looking at this, it does look like it could fit the 10 subgames, 5 on each floor

hallow laurel
#

but in that case

quaint osprey
#

there's like 3 floors though

hallow laurel
#

There's 3 floors

warm salmon
#

yeah I assume the top one could be other stuff

#

this is def weird

quaint osprey
#

when the remake is sus

hallow laurel
#

but from what I notice though

#

you're supposed to access this as soon as you can get to the challenge room

quaint osprey
#

well thats how it was in the original game too iirc

warm salmon
#

yes

hallow laurel
#

like the original yeah

quaint osprey
#

you couldnt enter subgame rooms

#

but you could walk into there

hallow laurel
#

in the original though

#

the only point of that room was just

#

to tell how to unlock

warm salmon
#

hmm let me open up dolphin and record a comparison with the original for us to have a better idea

iron helm
#

I'd say 2 on the top floor and 4 each on the other two floors.

quaint osprey
#

what doesn't sit right with me regarding that area containing subgames is that it feels very redundant. in original it was alternate way to access them without exiting to the main menu

#

but here magoland exists

#

so?????

#

i am confusion

tawdry cairn
#

Could just be for consistency ig

quaint osprey
#

i guess

#

ill settle for thinking its subgames to not hype myself over nothing lol

#

definitely peculiar though

iron helm
#

It actually contains the secret door to Bandee Prologue, a new story telling us how Bandee learned to wield a spear.

hallow laurel
#

and then the game includes a lot more content than they advertise

iron helm
#

You might say that the space is way too big for one door, but that's actually because there are ten Bandee prologues.

#

Each of them has 20 stages.

hallow laurel
#

Magolor Epilogue is only the start

quaint osprey
hallow laurel
#

and then you can access Magolor Epilogue from the boat and it would make no sense

quaint osprey
#

okay i hope they wont do THAT lmao

hallow laurel
#

But surely

#

Even HAL must have thought like

#

"man, this room is useless"

#

But I can still see them leaving the room's point intact

#

and just include subgames

#

just because the remake is consistent

#

but then they added 2 new abilities and new enemies

#

but maybe that's the extent they do it

#

I dunno

warm salmon
#

walked through the whole lor cause why not

vast minnow
#

This is how they bring back scope shot

mighty breach
#

The lower floor is entirely dedicated to several entrances to the many levels of scope shot

vast minnow
#

yes

vague vector
hallow laurel
#

just gold?

iron helm
#

Yeah, that's pretty embarassing Gigi, ngl.

hallow laurel
#

lol

warm salmon
#

look this is a 100% file I once downloaded just to test stuff for my RtDL fan translation

hallow laurel
#

then whoever played does not have skill

iron helm
#

Ah, so we must call the person who uploaded the save file cringe instead. I see!

warm salmon
#

but no, typman, I've not gotten all platinums in RtDL. although I think I did for story mode, but def not extra

iron helm
#

I am joking for comedy.

#

Just to be clear.

hallow laurel
#

I didn't do it for Extra because I didn't think there were differences lol

iron helm
#

There are differences. Easy to miss though, I think it's just coin placement?

hallow laurel
#

that said

#

I have sinned

#

I actually never did the Arenas

#

I only started to do that with Triple Deluxe

#

in RTDL I did them

#

then I lost

#

and I didn't do further

#

lol

#

and then the Deluxe sin: I didn't buy RTDL at all

#

In any case though

#

the level format seems pretty simple

#

There's two values saying the width and height of the level

#

then it's just 32-bit values * width * height

#

and then there's several layers of it

#

one is collision

#

one is the graphics

#

probably the background as well

vague vector
#

All the ex challenges add are more hazards

hallow laurel
#

that said I did platinums in New Challenge Stages

#

does that account to something lol

vague vector
#

Did you platinum every magolor race with every ability

hallow laurel
#

no

vague vector
#

Then it does not leepertroll

#

jk good job

iron helm
#

Imagine not Platinuming every Magolor Race with every ability. kirbdab

vague vector
#

TRUE

quaint osprey
#

ex challenge stages are pain

hallow laurel
#

actually I might have done that for some

quaint osprey
#

i hate them so much

#

ESPECIALLY WING

#

WHOEVER DESIGNED WING EX

hallow laurel
#

but probably not the last ones

quaint osprey
#

I HOPE YOU HURT YOUR TOE.

vague vector
#

I'm probably as insane as typman when it comes to platinums

#

Except when it comes to fighters 2

#

I'm not insane enough to do that

iron helm
#

I'm very excited for the Platinum medals in Magolor epilogue.

vague vector
#

Same

iron helm
hallow laurel
#

for me it's like a PTSD

#

it means I would waste hours just on this

vague vector
#

I'll do it eventually typman have mercy

quaint osprey
vague vector
quaint osprey
#

(typman is insane moments)

iron helm
#

I am very sane actually.

quaint osprey
#

only kirby game i fully platinum-ed is dedede drum dash deluxe

#

none of the others are fun to me to do lol

noble lynx
# hallow laurel

if its not subgames then what if its EX EX stages or something

quaint osprey
#

oh god

#

HAL on their way to make RTDX the worst kirby game to 100%:

noble lynx
#

cuz like

#

we know Sand and Mecha are getting their own challenge rooms or at least

#

Sand is

#

im sure i saw a scene where they showed Sand being used in a challenge room

#

and it would be weird to just like

#

Have Sand in that bottom room since the Right room is full

#

mixed in with Subgames?

quaint osprey
#

i mean

#

we already did see sand and mecha in room for all challenge stages

#

so they are definitely not down there

noble lynx
#

Where

quaint osprey
#

idk people were saying that

#

i assume the overview trailer that is like 6 minutes long

sonic field
# hallow laurel

Amazing, thank you for sharing it with us! Though what would be the point of Magoland if minigames are all accessed here? I want to dream and think these empty slots are for something else

hallow laurel
#

I would still consider it's the subgames

#

just because they like being consistent to the original

remote kindle
#

^

hallow laurel
#

And if it happens it's not like this at all

noble lynx
#

augh why isnt the jp overview trailer in Kirby news

hallow laurel
#

...feel free to act completely surprised

sonic field
#

What about the Challenge Stage room being bigger?

warm salmon
warm salmon
#

one sec

hallow laurel
#

The challenge stage room is bigger but they also spaced out the doors

warm salmon
#

ใ€ใ‚ฆใ‚งใƒ–ใ‚ตใ‚คใƒˆใ€‘
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/switch/a2jya/

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hallow laurel
#

so there's more space for 2 more rooms

sonic field
#

Oh ok

hallow laurel
#

and that's it

noble lynx
#

ah i see

spark forge
#

hey guys whats going on in here

noble lynx
#

we went to the bottom room of the Lor in DX demo

tawdry cairn
#

They confirmed sand and mecha would get challenge stages on jp site and with that layout it would cover 9 stages

noble lynx
#

it was empty but it was larger

tawdry cairn
#

1
2
3
2
1

remote kindle
#

oh cool first look at GCN BG

hallow laurel
#

also

tawdry cairn
hallow laurel
#

the bottom room makes NO SENSE

tawdry cairn
#

It looks like it may be bigger than before

spark forge
warm salmon
#

yeah see the video in pins

tawdry cairn
#

But otherwise nothing concrete

hallow laurel
#

Lor is just that much bigger in the inside

#

lol

tawdry cairn
#

I think the theory of it just being subgames makes sense

vague vector
#

So we can explore it in 3D

tawdry cairn
#

OK actually

#

The space fits perfect for 10 subgames

hallow laurel
#

yeah

vague vector
#

Please replace booming blasters with scope shot PLEASE

#

PLEASE

quaint osprey
#

yeah but tis 3 floors

hallow laurel
#

that said like

tawdry cairn
#

Top row is just the middle segment with space for 2
Second and third rows are split into three segments, with the middle segment having 2 again and the ends having 1

quaint osprey
#

a bit excessive unless they space it out in weird way

tawdry cairn
#

I could see the top row being Ninja dojo and booming blasters

hallow laurel
#

you can still press X in Lor's rooms and access Magoland

tawdry cairn
#

To emulate the original wii room

hallow laurel
#

and I don't think that's a demo only thing

#

and I'm still very confused about that

quaint osprey
#

i think its one of those things where we just have to wait and see

#

subgame theory holds water

#

but also weird imo

hallow laurel
#

yeah

vague vector
quaint osprey
#

but there is no better explanation

tawdry cairn
#

Well it could just be if you want to play subgames but don't want to interact with magoland

hallow laurel
#

unfortunately it's the most likely outcome

warm salmon
#

it is weird with magoland but in a way it's consistent with the original

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

tawdry cairn
#

Yeah I think it's mostly just done for consistency

#

Bc something was there before in the wii game

tawdry cairn
mighty breach
#

Or maybe the new ones, Booming Blasters and Tome Trackers

#

Since yknow

remote kindle
tawdry cairn
#

That makes sense too lol

hallow laurel
#

tree

mighty breach
#

yo Whispy looking so clean

tawdry cairn
#

I just think that way it would mimic the original subgame room in the lor

remote kindle
#

yeah people I talked to didnt like the outlines

#

It does look better ngl

hallow laurel
#

poor taste

remote kindle
#

IMO

mighty breach
#

I'm sorry outlines fans but

#

this looks so good

remote kindle
#

Well someone complained about the leaves having outlines

quaint osprey
#

whispy's roots look like they were photoshopped onto the ground

remote kindle
#

YEAH LOL

#

I think they could've removed outlines on the leaves

tawdry cairn
#

Just looks like the wii game

remote kindle
#

but on his body it looks better

#

Yeah exactly

tawdry cairn
#

Which is probably why they added the outlines lol

vivid niche
#

whispy's texture is so weird

vague vector
vivid niche
#

also yeah im slowly starting to join team no-outlines

quaint osprey
#

yeah ill admit whispy looks the best out of things that had removed outline

mighty breach
#

For some reason the remake makes whispy's texture less noticeable

quaint osprey
#

doesnt make me prefer it over outlines though

remote kindle
#

I hope theres an option in final release to remove outlines

#

kinda like smash 3ds

vivid niche
#

there wont be

remote kindle
#

i know

vivid niche
#

maybe in an update but i doubt

remote kindle
#

i hope

mighty breach
#

more options the better

quaint osprey
noble lynx
#

this is definitely

mighty breach
#

I think not?

noble lynx
#

a frame

#

whispy photoshopped to be thin

remote kindle
#

also Whispys eyes arent 2D images anymore. They did the KSA thing with a 3D model if anyone cares.

mighty breach
#

wide woods

quaint osprey
#

i dont know what compulsion i had to take a screenshot at this bit

vivid niche
vague vector
#

I prefer how they are textured in og imo

vivid niche
#

same

mighty breach
#

Yea

#

Not a huge loss but

remote kindle
#

it's washed out

vague vector
#

Yep

vivid niche
#

who made this texture

toxic sundial
#

Itโ€™s the dedede completion funny face

it looks about as weird on this model as I expected it to lmao

vague vector
#

It still looks funny

vivid niche
#

hello Kine

vague vector
#

I just like how it is in the original more

#

Thats like my sentiment with every dedede face in the remake lol

toxic sundial
#

yeah basically

mighty breach
#

Bro's beak was not made for this expression

toxic sundial
#

I like the model overall but the originals face was my flexible

noble lynx
#

the textures kinda the same

vivid niche
#

who made this game

noble lynx
#

the strimp reading this

vivid niche
#

also we still have no idea on what the Tickets do, do we?

noble lynx
#

they give stamps

vivid niche
#

oh ok that makes sense

remote kindle
vivid niche
worn bridge
#

Simply immaculate

quaint osprey
#

there is text in the demo buried deep

#

its just to receive more stamps

noble lynx
#

yes

vivid niche
#

yeah it makes more sense than what I've thought

quaint osprey
#

i do like interconnectivity between magoland and the main game

#

you don't have to grind for stamp rally you can also just play the actual game to receive masks

remote kindle
#

in the model for Magolor the object for the festival ability is there

vivid niche
#

I wish he was playable in story mode but whatever

#

at least we have the epilogue

quaint osprey
#

might still be unlockable

vivid niche
#

maybe

quaint osprey
#

it wouldn't make much sense for him to be playable in story mode from the getgo

remote kindle
#

some parry animation

vivid niche
#

also that room in Starcutter is super concerning

#

i hope its not just doors for the magoland subgames

#

that'd be stupid

vague vector
#

It probably will be

vivid niche
#

maybe

quaint osprey
#

i mean as much as i want it to be something cooler

#

it would be consistent with the original game

vivid niche
#

im happy with the content we got so I wouldnt be too mad

quaint osprey
#

so it would make sense at least

#

actually only one thing that bothers me about this

#

is that magoland access is shared between story mode and ex mode

#

as in, everything you unlock during story mode is carried over to ex mode

#

which begs the question

#

what this floor will be for there??? lmao

#

same thing? it would be super redundant

quaint osprey
#

yeah

#

some text strings in the demo leak that

vivid niche
#

I mean yeah, some masks unlock by clearing ex mode

quaint osprey
#

so like you dont have to redo everything in magoland once you start ex mode

vivid niche
#

im still wondering about the 100 missions

quaint osprey
#

which again just makes this floor's existence somewhat baffling to me

#

because it would just easier to leave for magoland rather than wait to unlock everything there

#

tbh its probably all subgame related unfortunately

#

overview video showed subgames having up to 7 missions

#

i feel like demo shrunk them down to 3 because demo

#

even then... hm

#

youd think they would do 10 for each subgame? maybe its for magoland as a whole

noble lynx
#

no

quaint osprey
#

something like "you cleared all subgames mission"

noble lynx
#

its sorted by subgame

quaint osprey
#

hm

noble lynx
#

like each page is like

#

subgame, then you move to the next subgame

#

so if theres 10 missiosn

#

and 10 subgames

#

thats 100

quaint osprey
#

well

#

we already know theres no 10 missions per subgame lol

noble lynx
#

show.

hallow laurel
#

Gotta show evidence because I haven't seen that

quaint osprey
hallow laurel
#

oh

#

...then you're right.

quaint osprey
#

other page showed 8 missions

#

mission count per subgame is incosistent

#

so i dont see clear cut 100

#

so i just wonder how they will make it work

hallow laurel
#

To be honest the funny thing is how the french demo says

#

"more than 100 missions"

#

lel

quaint osprey
#

hm

#

scary

hallow laurel
#

I may suspect a mistranslation

quaint osprey
#

i wont hold out hope for missions related to main levels anymore so i just wonder what can there even be

#

i hope there wont be a mission tied to hidden magolors because that would be a pain in the butt

hallow laurel
#

what if one of the missions is

#

"Do a perfect in Ninja Dojo Level 3"

#

i will go insane

noble lynx
#

i can probably do it in

#

10-30 tries

quaint osprey
#

that said

hallow laurel
#

also

quaint osprey
#

im glad missions for subgames exist

hallow laurel
#

there are 11 pages for missions.

quaint osprey
#

they give them more of a purpose to me

hallow laurel
#

so there are missions for something else

quaint osprey
#

probably magoland as whole or game as a whole

#

actually

hallow laurel
#

yeah

quaint osprey
#

||probably game as a whole because some unlockables depend on finishing ex and epilogue||

vague vector
#

I think this is egg catcher

hallow laurel
#

no

#

that's the 1st page

vague vector
#

oh?

hallow laurel
#

that's Samurai Kirby

vague vector
#

Ah ok

bleak geyser
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but why would subgames be on lor still

bleak geyser
bleak geyser
vague vector
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I was told already, but thank you

errant burrow
tawdry cairn
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misc missions for magoland things makes sense to me

hoary oar
hoary oar
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the .bin is like the actual map data ig and .cdnbin is like uhhh

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It like
Defines what map elements load in ig?

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SA did this too

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Except their it was a .dat instead of .bin

hoary oar
hoary oar
# remote kindle

Ive been mentioning how Whispy looks like shit in ReDx and this just makes it more clear

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There's this weird ass shading on his body that looks so weird to me

hoary oar
hallow laurel
scarlet ether
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just RTDL DX or any of them?

hallow laurel
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RTDL DX

scarlet ether
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oh

quaint osprey
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lmao

bleak geyser
remote kindle
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Me using an early access build my friend sent

bleak geyser
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part of me wants to get into that for skc

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because hahahaha im not paying $50 for apples

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not today magolor

remote kindle
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See i use my switch but its an oled and i cant mod it

bleak geyser
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oof

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i use my switch too