Leaks for Pokémon

[spare hare]

And max was another generic kid sprite

[tender radish]

I mean technically in the show he's norman's son

Could be YOUR sibling.....

[spare hare]

So they put in two max references

[echo bone]

historians will say they were

[spare hare]

Maybe they put the school kid in so ppl would figure it out

[tender radish]

(Who lives outside)

[rose junco]

do you have stuff yourself or are you just reposting stuff (again)

mostly want to ask for that supposed BW Pokemon doc (that's somewhere in XY-Staff folder)

[tropic pollen]

Oh so ||actually Tuxedo Mask ||

[spare hare]

or a really cool guy

[spice remnant]

Just reposting

[rose junco]

ah rip

[spice remnant]

The spreadsheet also says that ||Friend A was the professor's daughter||

||Ok Friend A is Calem/Serena but yea||

[tropic pollen]

||Sailor Moon’s Tuxedo Mask is likewise a romantic interest for the main character and two years older, so it seems like an intentional reference||

[spare hare]

Oh I'm just quoting the line in the image

[spice remnant]

||便利になったが行きづらい世の中。そんなお金持ちの国が抱えるメンタル問題を少し注入する。
Society has become convenient but difficult to navigate. Put in a bit of mental health issues faced by people in wealthy countries.
団に付いていく人たち。エネルギーとなる一部のポケモンを集めている。手段を選ばない野蛮な人たち。人をだますなど世の中の悪い人物の巣窟。
People who follow the Team. They gather some Pokemon for energy. Barbaric people who aren't picky about the means. A den of evil people within society who deceive others.||
Descriptions of Grunt A Type and B Type in the spreadsheet

Maybe A is regular grunts and B are the admins?

Either way I don't think grunts in the final game really reflect that A type description, it sounds more like Team Skull

Never mind
THIS is the funniest shit I've ever seen
https://x.com/centroleaks/status/1846948239225852009?s=46

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks) on X

The Presents guy himself decided to sent us an email

He's TPC second in charge

And im not joking

Twitter · Oct 17, 2024, 4:15 PM

[arctic bobcat]

lmaooo

[warped ferry]

||"i'm not joking" somehow with this reply i doubt that||
||https://vxtwitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1846949389245308982||

[arctic bobcat]

going lowtiergod on centro

[stoic kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/pmmm-sayaka-miki-gif-10671653000010371187

[arctic bobcat]

oh he's unironically saying that

never mind he's clout chasing for fame

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-awesome-mario-twerking-gif-23644561

[spice timber]

y'know

they only sent the ninjas after xy leaked

[spare hare]

i know what you're implying but i think you're reading too much into it

any actual response from tpc would be after the weekend anyways

[cerulean bluff]

i think they just caught on that this is the most popular source of the leaks on one of the biggest social media sites

[spare hare]

and they likely have spent these past couple of days figuring out where they are with this and what to do

[spice timber]

yeah, that's fair

i'm kinda surprised that they didn't shut down centro frame 1 in any other leak seasons

[cerulean bluff]

considering how centro was behaving with all of this (spreading fakes and general immature behavior) cant say i feel sorry for em

[grand crown]

i hope tpc goes after khu too

[spice timber]

their response feels kinda lax if that makes sense?

this mf has the potential to leak their entire upcoming game, you'd think they'd want to stop that from happening

[cerulean bluff]

i mean

centro itself doesnt have the rom?

its the guy that does

[spice timber]

OH i mean the guy

[spare hare]

i mean we don't even know if this is legit (from centro)

[spice timber]

they're posting everything in a discord server

[cerulean bluff]

i thought they just contacted the centro account, not the guy

[spice timber]

which tpc could probably just contact discord to locate

[spice timber]

yeah, this too

[tender radish]

https://fxtwitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1846952727269798029

Posting your location right after a legal threat is so fucking stupid that i'm pretty sure this is bait

[echo bone]

[spare hare]

it just sounds really fake to begin with

like yeah sure

[echo bone]

he kinda right here nobody give a shit on online activity

[spice remnant]

That's cool and all but someone finally recorded the previs Kyogre cutscene instead of just screenshots
||https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1294801088717000734/1296517173975711855/Ad60_Animatics_0206.mp4?ex=67129336&is=671141b6&hm=a2737281c53ad51f13dec35053281b4aafb3662493abb4ee1daf9f47fde1491f& ||

[spare hare]

utsunomiya himself emailed centro to take down the leaks bc clearly centro is sooo important

[echo bone]

guess the image takedowns made it seem possible at first

[spare hare]

utsunomiya emailing centro: "dawg half of what you're uploading is bullshit, you know that right"

[spice remnant]

Funniest tweet I've ever seen still

"The Presents guy" couldn't even say his name 😭

[tender radish]

Riddler khu starving for attention: 🤵🤵📝🤵🤵📧 See if you can solve This one, batman.....

[tender radish]

fly on the monitor

[echo bone]

WAIT HUH WHAT

i just found something wtf this is crazy

[spice timber]

find kyogre

[quartz mountain]

ive seen this image years ago- it was real!??!?

[echo bone]

yes it was real all along.

[harsh lion]

✅ this post has been fact checked by true ballers

[spare hare]

[spice remnant]

The chat think fast IQ check (Half fails)

[echo bone]

slam jam

[spice remnant]

CHALLENGED BY HOE DERRICK?????

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-gamexplain-ninja-gamexplain-gif-22742251

[formal nimbus]

what he showed is a freaking DMCA takedown email this is one of the least surprising things

The formatting is just like a DMCA takedown request

[cerulean bluff]

dont even get the point

does he think it will attract more attention to the leaks or something

man could people just share cool unused shit from the games instead of making these theatrics

[west bramble]

wanna bet that the legal threat is bullshit that Centro just made up

[cerulean bluff]

did nintendo/tpc go after people behind gigaleak

or previous game freak related leaks

[west bramble]

probably

[rose junco]

I don't remember them doing so

[cerulean bluff]

thats what i thought

[rose junco]

well I mean people reposting it

[west bramble]

I don't think they figured this out yet though

[cerulean bluff]

yeah thats what i mean

leakers themselves always keep themselves more hidden

usually

[rose junco]

yeah

[formal nimbus]

Nintendo had already arrested the hacker behind the gigaleak

in 2018 when the hack happened

data just went out 2 years later through other people

[spice timber]

i wonder why they haven't gone after the current leaker?

[formal nimbus]

it's not immediate

[tender radish]

Oh they're definitely trying

[spice timber]

unless they're living in a country that they can't get to them in like khu did

[formal nimbus]

legal proceedings are slow lol

[tender radish]

Dude better get through that terabyte fast

[formal nimbus]

also

https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/16/24271854/discord-nexon-dmca-subpoena-copyright-piracy

Discord is not helping.

lol

[spice timber]

the fact that the leaker is holding back on leaking future games is so dumb

because they're gonna be like

[echo bone]

it's not

[spice timber]

In Jail by the time those games actually happen

[tender radish]

I mean hey i'm thankful for it

[spice timber]

yeah, it's defo for the best

[tender radish]

But yeah it's a strange thing to have morals about this and not like the employee information

[echo bone]

like they're not leaking a game we haven't even got gameplay for

[spice timber]

actually

[tender radish]

I feel like one is a little more important than the other

[echo bone]

wdym they should let the build out

[spice timber]

oh wait

[formal nimbus]

but what employee info are you guys talking about

I've seen

0 info

[spice timber]

i still think it's dumb that they're taking the moral high ground after Committing A Crime

[echo bone]

bro it's just data found alongside the leak lol

[spice timber]

but they at least said this

[formal nimbus]

the only info I've seen is: a single name and company email

[tropic pollen]

Personal information was not targeted, and to my knowledge there's been a considerable effort making sure it wasnt spread

[formal nimbus]

though for SVN and stuff it's likely to have names and emails as well

but not much more than that

[tropic pollen]

Many people on twitter have spread a shit ton of misinformation about it all, unsurprisingly. Like "The leaker would share information about ZA if someone killed Centro"

[echo bone]

not really
like beyond the moral high point of releasing a game they haven't even shown off gameplay of (and free mind you), it just makes more sense to comb first through the stuff from already existing games

like it's not dumb they're prioritzing the beta content before the unreleased game

[quartz mountain]

it looks like a crystal ball tho??? 😭 wouldnt that break

[tropic pollen]

ive also seen "The leaker hacked Game Freak because they were too slow with ZA news"
"really?"
"idk thats just something ive heard"

[quartz mountain]

or is it supposed to be a bubble

[next compass]

i think it was a bubble

[echo bone]

there can only be enough manpower to comb through everything

[formal nimbus]

I think this argument about moral high ground is bs imo

[broken jetty]

Most normal twitter moment

[formal nimbus]

you can hack into places and just focus on specific things

[harsh lion]

i honestly find it more. i guess useful too

Less pointless? If that makes sense

[formal nimbus]

I dare say the gigaleak was pretty tame on that front too

[tender radish]

Info that will be outdated in 4 months 🔥

[echo bone]

how did these guys make it through life

[echo bone]

yeah exactly

[harsh lion]

bc we sure as hell weren't going to ever see all this concept art ever but if the playable current build of Z-A were to be released right now its just like. okay you got early access to a game that isn't finished. congrats?

[spice timber]

these people probably misinterpreted the sv story

[echo bone]

it's just better for whoever's combing to rescue the most they can about the already released titles instead of leaking some game we will eventually get anyways

[harsh lion]

I think its a shame that the animes future leaked the way it did though

[spice timber]

yeah, overall the beta stuff we got is way more valuable than a potential z-a leak

so many scrunglos and glumbies leaked

[quartz mountain]

congrats! 🎉 now a bunch of people will start complaining and nitpicking about the unfinished graphics and rough placeholder animations! 🎊

[formal nimbus]

that is probably the hacker simply missing that information entirely

[echo bone]

don't worry, the children watching that show don't have internet access of this level to even get spoiled lol

[tropic pollen]

this i agree with

[harsh lion]

thats the one thing i know for a fact has happened and i dont vibe with out of all this..... u cant just get in the chefs kitchen while theyre cookin.....

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-magolor-kirby-kirby-kirby-magolor-shinya-kumazaki-gif-11835760253449817407

[harsh lion]

Heartwarming.

[tropic pollen]

a lot of people are enjoying the anime regardless of age lmfao, its E for everyone

[echo bone]

Wholesome big chungus.

[tropic pollen]

deserved

[spice timber]

z-a leaking would like

spoil most of the surprises they have in store

AND not be as good as the final product

[quartz mountain]

picking up the uncooked veggies and taking a big ol bite
"what the heck these havent even had the dirt washed off them yet!"

[rose junco]

other than the emails found before (most of which are old and aren't much still), supposedly there's business cards in xy-staff folder, but I have seen no actual details on how personal they are
but for most part people are exaggerating

[harsh lion]

like Spoilers of everything i just mentioned ||if we found out about zygarde and zeraora through literally any other means Id be more okay with the revelation that theyre giving manectric's evolution a mega evolution||

[echo bone]

yeah but the only ones finding out about the spoilers are the only ones bothering to dig into this regardless

[spice timber]

like when pla leaked and all we had of a lot of the pla mons was those shitty box sprites

[echo bone]

most of the future anime's info doesn't have much weight when said into the outside anyways

the primary target (the children) won't even find out the storyline is spoiled until in years lol

anyways i don't think it's dumb that legends ZA stuff isn't being released

[rose junco]

tbf lot of it is years old info still

from around 2022

[echo bone]

call it a moral high ground or something but there's only enough manpower to comb through a whole terabyte of info

and pirating the game out before anybody can even purchase it is objectively a dick move

[tropic pollen]

true but a lot of these things are years ahead in the future

there's plenty of time to go through all that data

look how much has been uncovered already

[spice timber]

we literally got like

all of the shit they had to cut in xy

[echo bone]

i know a couple tales that got uncovered.

like max hiding all along in oras

[harsh lion]

I mean yeah that whole timeline isnt like

[rose junco]

do wonder how much will be changed if certain things get released (or if certain things are/were cancelled)

[harsh lion]

as easy to find or to run into as other things that have come up

[echo bone]

yeah exactly

[spare hare]

if it really is from 2022 i think this is funny bc

it's hardly "years old" at that point lol

like things can def change afterwards, but the anime started in april 2023

[rose junco]

most of the files I saw were (at the latest), including for Horizons
(and talking more than the anime)
we already know some things were changed from final Horizons-wise

[echo bone]

anime preproduction time moment

[rose junco]

most obvious things are ||who the Six Heroes were and Gibeon's name (Eldora)|| (changed stuff)

though obviously some things are more potential spoilers
(like the ||Friede betrayal|| (potential spoilers), though ||I will note even that was being debated about in meetings||)
but the non-Horizons stuff? way less set in stone from what I saw

[next compass]

also since i saw that clown fuck again i got an intrusive thought
just in case he ever makes a comeback somehow

[tropic pollen]

FOR REAL FOR REAL.

[echo bone]

bhbjhknlmñmnkj

LOVE HIM

[next compass]

i always preferred him over primarina and i mourn his death every day, someday people will learn to respect him

[tropic pollen]

getting flashbacks to 5 years ago when Sword and Shield was leaking and people found out what Rillaboomed looked like and drew it going Super Sayian 3

[spare hare]

5 years ago

[tropic pollen]

sorry.

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-ruby-pokemon-sapphire-wingull-old-man-chasing-gif-23083422

[harsh lion]

pokemon ruby and sapphire are 575 years old, Feel old yet?

[echo bone]

me realizing swish was 6 years ago

[tropic pollen]

this one

[echo bone]

WAIT I JUST REALIZING PEEKO DOESNT MOVE WHEN TRAVELING SIDEWAYS

[quartz mountain]

im not sleeping tonight

[echo bone]

7 palabras.
esencia.

[harsh lion]

https://pkparaiso.com/imagenes/espada_escudo/sprites/animados-gigante/wingull.gif

apologize.

[torn ore]

What I miss after post-Centro trolling

[spare hare]

tbh nothing

[echo bone]

🍗

yum

i think the only gen 3 mon that felt like we got robbed is pelipper because as a kid i always hated pelipper

i straight up never evolved my wingull in my ruby run because of how ugly he was

[next compass]

tf i love pelipper

die

[tropic pollen]

Pelipper's new cry is insane

[quartz mountain]

genuinely i had so many pokemon in the pokedex i hated because of design. Im a lot better about it nowadays tho.....
still hate Bruxish

[rose junco]

I like Bruxish
it being ugly is sort of the point

[surreal vault]

Burr-ap!

[tropic pollen]

Old "beerreerr :)"
New "BOOORAAAAAR.""

[rose junco]

I feel for it

[quartz mountain]

but will it ever beat kricketune

[next compass]

i grew to like bruxish's ugliness

pretty girlboss

[velvet bobcat]

Best outcome in my opinion would the leaker showing us one singular screenshot of ZA, and it should be displaying a glitch or bug or whatever like the ones in scarlet violet, so when the Pokémon company sees it they feel forced to make sure said glitch or bug or whatever doesn't make it into the game

[harsh lion]

best outcome would be that except they dont patch it

[next compass]

LOL their whole fucking reputation hinges on this single glitch

[tropic pollen]

Best outcome would be not sharing anything about ZA it'll be out in half a year its not that bad

[echo bone]

he always looked fat to me!

[next compass]

BECAUSE HES FAT!!!?

[quartz mountain]

good!!! in the "more to hug" way!!!

[tropic pollen]

unless the leaker simply says "if you save in Lumiose you risk losing your save data"

[harsh lion]

but i want to see ||stunfisk||

[north fjord]

Dawg I thought this was a Fortnite skin at first glance

[echo bone]

his beak goes up all the way down to his belly! it's gross!

i like my pelicans having the beak end

[rose junco]

don't bodyshame smh

[quartz mountain]

its not gross its formidable 💪

[echo bone]

and i will do it again ❤️

[next compass]

HE'S A GOOD MAILMAN!!!

[quartz mountain]

Pelipper is Pete from animal crosing

[echo bone]

he's a pete
peter griffin with that fatass family guy chin!

[velvet bobcat]

if we doin' crimes we might as well use the opportunity to expose the company further and lower the reputation even more until they actually decide to do something about it 😇

[next compass]

trueeeeee!!

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/impress-based-american-psycho-very-based-impressive-very-based-gif-21665669

[cerulean bluff]

was there anything at all sussy on that front uncovered

probably not because if there was internet would be on game freak's case again

[spice timber]

i mean

we just got what xy could have been if it wasn't crunched

[cerulean bluff]

this isnt really lowering reputation

[velvet bobcat]

That's a good start !!

[spice timber]

pokemon's already known for crunch and this is a deeper view of it

[cerulean bluff]

what we need is some kind of transcript of game freak's meeting with TPC or something

[spare hare]

while i do think the xy stuff is really cool and there's definitely a lot they unfortunately had to cut

cut content alone happens in every game

[next compass]

oh so we're blackmailing them

[echo bone]

i mean is it really
real crunch would be if they had never been able to implement megas to begin with

this cut content is normal

[spice timber]

they literally cut an entire half of the map

[cerulean bluff]

the pokemon company needs to be blackmailed at this point

[next compass]

like with confidential confidential information

[echo bone]

i feel robbed we didn't get that flamingo or water scorpion but that's normal

[echo bone]

they deemed it unnecessary obviously...........................

[spare hare]

i don't think the fact that there is cool cut content means anything for development necessarily, this kind of thing happens with lots of stuff bc like

the game has to come out eventually

they can't implement every idea

[quartz mountain]

dw itll be drip fed back in DLC updates <3

[cerulean bluff]

like i want to believe that scarlet and violet's unpolished state made them realize that the games need more time in the oven now. but who knows if they actually will follow through with that

[spare hare]

and silksong is what happens when you let scope creep go unchecked too long, at least that's what i think

[echo bone]

yall dont understand what is like having a deadline if you're calling all of this as pure crunch lol

[next compass]

i mean...

youre gonna crunch every time

thats what deadlines are for

getting shit done

[echo bone]

yeah exactly

[cerulean bluff]

i mean i get that indie dev takes time, from my perspective, silksong's problem is that developers don't all communicate with their audience

[velvet bobcat]

I think something more viral online would cause a greater dent, I don't think xy's scrapped content is meaning much to the general public outside of us fans
In the other hand, a screenshot of a upcoming game would be much more viral, and the content of said screenshot can leave a big mark on the general public's opinion on this future project

[cerulean bluff]

compare and contrast toby fox who is very transparent about how deltarune's development is going

[spare hare]

oh i love team cherry but also silksong's problem is likely both communication and presumably scope creep

[torn ore]

It was a little too ambitiouse for a 3DS game, and their first transition to 3D. So you'd understand why a lot had to be cut

[quartz mountain]

scope screep gets me too, thats why i never finish anything to begin with :)

[spare hare]

they had a playable build with several areas ready by 2019 but now the game seems even farther from release and TO BE FAIR TO THEM i am not necessarily saying anything bad about them as people

i know developing is hard

[cerulean bluff]

screep

[spare hare]

buuut i think something messy must be going on with development and i think one of the likelier explanations is scope creep

[echo bone]

like most of what i'm seeing on the xy documents anyhow is like
What, a bunch of megas concept art? you can't land on the perfect design from the getgo, it's not a sign of crunch culture to have these revealed

[next compass]

i don't think it's purely just because they had to follow the deadlines. it's the idea that there are things troubling them DURING the development too. that's why development hell is a thing, whether or not the game comes off as finished or not

and of course there's a lot more factors than just that

[tropic pollen]

The leaked alphas and betas of X and Y should be enough to see the type of crunch Game Freak was working under

[echo bone]

like i see a lot of concept art of the maps and the like and i'm like "wow! these areas ended up resembling the final game after all! who could've thunk it!"

[next compass]

we're talking approvals, budget, etc.

[tropic pollen]

a majority of that development time was used on simply getting the 3D engine looking right

[torn ore]

Going back to the leaks for a bit.... (Z-A Spoilers) ||Anyone else hoping that Mega Zygarde has more serpentine/dragon-like elements again? I'm kinda hoping it'll be a mix of 50% and Complete's design||

[tropic pollen]

||I expect this given it's supposed to go up against Mega Rayquaza in the anime, but we'll see||

[next compass]

Yeah the difference is that XY, although a finished product, STILL FEELS like it's missing something

and that's why the reactions to its scrapped content is much stronger

if we can TELL how rushed this project is, we're more inclined to know WHAT it was missing

[spare hare]

i find this in particular really interesting bc ||it's gonna be the first mega that has different forms in the base mon||

[torn ore]

||Two mega serpents and the fight ends with them being tied into a knot||

[spare hare]

||so i wonder if they will just simply make the mega exclusive to complete, or let you mega from any form, or what||

[tropic pollen]

my guess is the latter

[next compass]

And the fact that this much content is missing, also ZYGARDE ZYGARDE ZYGARD RE RARARAHHAHHHH, is exactly what's causing so much lament

[rose junco]

||they never said this btw||

[next compass]

Everyone's convinced that XY is just heavily rushed and lazily put together, we weren't really expecting to see things like this ever

[spare hare]

if they do go this route ||it'd be neat if they actually had different megas based on the form ||

[next compass]

This shit fucking blew XY's reputation for years to come

[torn ore]

||My guess is for balance, only 50% can Mega Evolve, so that it'll at least just have a BST cap of 780, not going over Mega Rayquaza and Mewtwos||

[next compass]

of course we're going to want to know what was left behind that could've "made things better"

[echo bone]

ok

[spare hare]

||they should say fuck balance and give complete the mega||

[rose junco]

||Rayquaza isn't even mentioned in the meeting doc Mega Zygarde is mentioned in|| (Z-A/Horizons spoilers)

[spare hare]

||we got legends plate arceus after all......||

even if it was never used back in the traditional games

[harsh lion]

||808 bst who up||

[tropic pollen]

My biggest wonder is ||what it'd be based on in norse mythology. Loki did have 5 children in total, and the forms of Zygarde represent the 3 that he had with the jætte Angerboda||

[stoic kindle]

||1000 base stat total cause fuck you||

[next compass]

It doesn't excuse the idea that we should be upset that there is scrapped content, everyone laments a scrapped content, it's bound to happen even if the finished product is much better in comparison. But it does justify this case, at least for me

[spare hare]

it would just be perfect bc ||complete already has that gargantuan hp stat which is the one stat megas don't touch anyways so like||

that'd be so funny

[torn ore]

Anime and Z-A spoilers ||Yeah but with confirmation of Lucius' Rayquaza having the ability to Mega Evolve, and Mega Zygarde confirmed, It's inevitable that those two will throw hands||

[rose junco]

||yeah I'm just saying that exact matchup isn't 'confirmed'||

[torn ore]

gotcha

[harsh lion]

||216/100/121/191/95/85 WHO UP||

[tropic pollen]

||One idea could be Nidhogg, a winged, serpentine dragon in norse mythos, but that one is seen as an antagonistic beast, gnawing at the roots of the world tree. I'm not sure if it fits the "protector" image of Zygarde. But i digress.||

[torn ore]

||I can imagine that it'll look like be a serpentine dragon shaped like a Z, and the "wings" from Complete carry over or something|| Z-A spoilers

||I just want it to look like a dragon so that it doesn't look out of place with my Ultra Necrozma and Mega Rayquaza figurse lmao||

[tropic pollen]

oh yea who played fire emblem three houses here

[harsh lion]

meeeee

[tropic pollen]

maybe u will find it funny to learn that Yveltal is based on Hræsvælg

[echo bone]

i did||n't||!

[next compass]

Case in point: Equal Dragon Weapon, an idea that was scrapped in the early, EARLY developmental days of Monster Hunter. Every so often fans would have a heated debate about its canonicity and whether they should bring it back or not
...'cept Monster Hunter turned out to be an amazing game (and franchise) without it, so there's not really a point to wanting it back other than "it would be so cool"
Alright, made my point, sorry to draw this out lol

[echo bone]

the real crime for xy's crunch is the fact you can't dress yourself up as hex

[next compass]

who

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/hexmaniac-hex-hex-maniac-hi-hello-gif-9609496868657785093

[next compass]

oh right

[tropic pollen]

HI HELLO HI HI HI HELLO HELLO HI

[torn ore]

Also (Z-A Spoilers) ||Mega Zygarde means a possibility of Mega Xerneas and Yveltal lmao. Or hell pull a ORAS and have those two be primals instead||

[stoic kindle]

||imagine the effect killing mega yveltal would have||

(za)

[torn ore]

(ZA) ||Gen 10 meta gonna be real interesting lmfao||

[next compass]

yall fr calling it ZA

cus im gonna read it as zaza with these labels

(keep it up)

[spare hare]

-xerneas golden deer
-yveltal black eagles

bro i cracked the code

-zygarde blue lions

[tropic pollen]

the fourth legendary. Mega Pyroar.

[torn ore]

Ashen Wolves

[rough kelp]

who's the sewer rats...

[tropic pollen]

Zygarde 10% IS a Wolf

[torn ore]

Damn uhhhh

[spare hare]

ok wait hold on that means A will be a lion instead

[torn ore]

Just give me the trailer already I wanna see what the "A" legend is lmao. I'm so curious because this is like the first time a new legend joins a mascot trio

[tropic pollen]

Also I just have a full bias for the aura trio because they’re based off my mythos that I grew up with and i just think thats cool

[next compass]

wouldnt it be funny if its just arceus again

[torn ore]

Arceus but green like the logo

[next compass]

also i saw speculation that it might be zeraora and that intrigues me so much

[tropic pollen]

I’ve seen people speculate it could be the (A)ngel statue in the E4

Well. Not the statue itself but that the statue was made in its image

[next compass]

||FLOETTE FLOETTE FLOETTE FLOETTE||

[stoic kindle]

Arceus is pissed as zygrade pranked him by setting up a green paint can above his door and destroys a town out of rage
Rebuild it into lumois city

[torn ore]

Would be neat. That statue is also kiiiinda shaped liked an "A"

||And with that Beta Florges design that seems to share a lot of similarities with it, I can see them revisiting the design and making it a new evolution to Eternal Floette||

[next compass]

i think it would be interesting that it would probably actually refer to AZ and his floette, and that the legends would focus on their story

...

not sure how far of a stretch that is though

[tropic pollen]

ZA has a lot of balls to juggle

[echo bone]

will it have the balls to pull the stunt off tho

[torn ore]

Speaking of Legends

[next compass]

sorry i misread that

[torn ore]

Slightly off topic but I kinda wish Legend Plate Arceus looked something like this

Well not THAT bright

[tropic pollen]

The leaker has a lot of bills to haggle

[spare hare]

and there's only one pokemon that can get the job done

[tropic pollen]

The jugglerrrrrr

[next compass]

im gonna fucking die bro

[torn ore]

Real ones remember that his name was Ballio

[next compass]

BALLIO??????

[surreal vault]

I hate it still

[torn ore]

Ballio and friends (I can't find the actual original image)

[next compass]

IS THAT MOTHERFUCKING

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/sucks-danny-devito-clapping-meme-gif-5899574479924337458

[next compass]

God why is that Litten one so bad

[tropic pollen]

That cat is so funny

No sauce

[next compass]

why do people actually want that one instead of Incineroar

HES SO NAKED

[tropic pollen]

Long Cat

No whimsy

[next compass]

https://tenor.com/view/andhisnameisjohncena-gif-21796131

NONE of that HEEL CHARISMA

[surreal vault]

Soulless

https://tenor.com/view/incineroar-pokemon-home-gif-5743461745824680834

[runic prawn]

no wonder I always forget about the other two they are so bad

[torn ore]

The artist also designed megas. I can only find it on pinterest tho

[next compass]

I REMEMBER THAT ONE

THE LITTEN ONE IS STILL SO BAD

[echo bone]

because incineroar is not an animal it's just some guy in a costume

[tropic pollen]

I remember people HATED Incineroar

[runic prawn]

out of all designs this is the best

[next compass]

people still do

its just that now that hes in smash theyre obligated to like him now

[torn ore]

I still do

[tropic pollen]

Even then this looks more like a rise of the guardians character

[runic prawn]

true LOL

[tropic pollen]

Or whatever that owl movie was called

[next compass]

The popplio final evo is unironically the one one that looks good and cool to me

always liked it

[torn ore]

So we have Ballio for Water,
Spacebunny for Fire,
Are there any popular grass starter leaks

[next compass]

i remember being disappointed at the reveal

[tropic pollen]

Guardians of the Gahouul rising revengeance

[echo bone]

i like this panther he's pettable
simple and to the point, very gen 1

[next compass]

but it's SO BORINGGG

[echo bone]

i'll always be mad my housecat turns into this man out of nowhere at the end

[next compass]

but he's SO COOOOLL

[tropic pollen]

Ironically the hate fits it given its a heel

[echo bone]

but it's a guy in a costume basically!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[next compass]

But he's a COOL guy in a COOL costume

[echo bone]

i'll shove my heel in your face!

[tropic pollen]

Madagascar 3

[echo bone]

in general i don't like these furry type pokemon because i prefer my pokemon to be animals first

if i want furries i play/watch digimon instead

[tropic pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-hoop-fire-santa-maria-gif-11022847

[spare hare]

they should do more silhouettes

[next compass]

understandable

[tropic pollen]

How did he do this

[next compass]

he's a tiger

[spare hare]

also this is that

[next compass]

dont' you know

[spare hare]

galarian darmanitan shape

[next compass]

they do that

irl

[spare hare]

[echo bone]

(also incineroar's fur pattern is very boring it feels like they gave up halfway through)

[surreal vault]

Incineroar! Use rapid spin!!!!

[next compass]

lord you will not like 70% of the entire roster

[echo bone]

???

[spare hare]

game freak if they teased this thing by putting out a silhouette first

[tropic pollen]

Drill Run

[next compass]

also incineraor is like one of the more detailed starter pokemon, i feel like too much of it would be too much

[surreal vault]

Galarian Darmanitan 🤍

[next compass]

even serperior has some restraint to its patterns

and empoleon

i thought EMPOLEON was the lazily done one

[tropic pollen]

Good luck drawing Quaquaval

[echo bone]

i mean is he really

[next compass]

yeah

[echo bone]

i feel he's got the simplest anatomy out of all of these

[next compass]

he is

[north fjord]

I feel so alone in being a huge Ballio fan

Like everyone hates it but I love the creepy fuck

[next compass]

quaquaval maeks me wanna cry because its clearly a good design but its STILL so different and detailed i cant be mad at the fans for hating it so much

IM A BALLIO FAN TOO

FROM BEGINNING TO THE END...

[next compass]

typhlosion is literally a very long bean with four smaller beans

[surreal vault]

I keep reading it as
Ba-ji-o
Instead of Ball-io

[next compass]

i get that it's more animalistic but also it's so basic lol

[echo bone]

you'd be surprised how easy it is to get typhlosion off-model

[next compass]

what

[echo bone]

anyways my hate for incineroar goes to the fact they made the guy too human, i like my pokemon to be animals
i like furries but not when they're pokemon, it feels weird because almost all pokemons still behave like animals and that takes me out of it

[north fjord]

That’s kinda how I feel about Decidueye tbh

Like yeah owls can be shaped similarly but there’s just something about it that’s offputting

[echo bone]

i'm fine with avians since they already stand on two legs by default
but the hood i always found weird

[rose junco]

tbh I'm fine with most of the starters being like that

especially since in most games, they aren't really out in the wild (so it makes more sense that they're 'closer' to people/trainers)

the only starter I have a problem with is like Rillaboom but that's since it's too close to being just an animal especially for a starter (and is in a gen with another grass monkey)

[broken jetty]

[echo bone]

ohhhhhhh

so that's why ||mega jynx was so talked about, it was already known thru home||

[north fjord]

Yeah it’s not really a meme like XY aliens, but something that actually has some substantial evidence

[torn ore]

Heads up, new ORAS folder with concept art just got out

[surreal vault]

‼️

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/flygon-pokemon-pokemon-flygon-dragon-gif-1968596861751396621

it's his time now.

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-christopher-nolan-bruce-wayne-batman-where-are-they-gif-5103771

[torn ore]

4chin or Centro

[next compass]

What's the difference!?

[torn ore]

We've really gotten so many variations of that one Groudon meme the past day lmfaooooo

[surreal vault]

||That Primal Groudon kinda rocks wtf||

[torn ore]

Also canon Hoenn ages

[surreal vault]

Wait

[torn ore]

Source is Sangoキャラクター設定リスト

[surreal vault]

||Roxanne is 14?????||

[stoic kindle]

||huh... I always thought Winona was like, in her mid 20s
She just gave off that vibe||

[surreal vault]

||Yeah wtf||

[torn ore]

Better quality

[next compass]

||HOW ARE ROXANNE AND WINONA YOUNG TEENS, HOW IS FLANNERY A FULL GROWN ADJLT????||

[torn ore]

Groudon meme

[echo bone]

||damn winona being level 16??? what is it a johto lategame gym leader? ||

[torn ore]

Groudon from yesterday

Really cant believe we have many versions of this lmfao

[next compass]

OHHHH I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THAT MEME

History has been made

[torn ore]

The new one just zoomed in

How waiting for Z-A news feels like

[surreal vault]

What's going on with its back

Its trying to become Godzilla bro

[spice timber]

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-awesome-mario-twerking-gif-23644561

how bro looks

[next compass]

||since there's a speech bubble next to Groudon, someone should write in it: なんでもいない||

[surreal vault]

YOU SHOULD USE MEMENTO
NOWWWWWW

I'm fucking rolling (ORAS concept art)

Yeah this looks sick as hell but
||Maxie ||

[torn ore]

Cave murals

[stoic kindle]

||he looks like a lost child||

[torn ore]

EVEN A MURAL VERSION LMFAOOOOOO WE HAVE MANY VERSIONS

[next compass]

||Kyogre: actually resembles the pokemon
Groudon: BIG COOL FUCKING BLACK DINO WOOOOAAA||

[echo bone]

and then along came zeus

https://tenor.com/view/stomp-hercules-smash-gif-26611646

[surreal vault]

He hurled his thunderbolt!

Wait that doesn't hit Groudon

[echo bone]

get up on hydreigon's back

[torn ore]

SERENA OUTFITS CONCEPT ART!!!!

MORE!!!

COURTNEY CONCEPT ART!!!

[stoic kindle]

||slaaaaay||

||go slay girl||

[torn ore]

SHELLY AND THE OTHER GUY!!!

[echo bone]

WOAG

oh that is

an interesting matt drawing

[torn ore]

Oh my

And this Team Magma guy!

[spare hare]

tabitha

this one is pretty tame lol

not much going on

[echo bone]

tabitha always felt like collateral damage

you can tell not even his model sheet has much

i hate his look with the shorts and pants underneath!!

[torn ore]

Looks like we have generic trainer model references too.

All this concept art being leaked made me realize, damn they actually bothered releasing a lot of Sun and Moon concept art through the art books huh

[surreal vault]

Sootopolis City concept art

[spare hare]

still by far one of the best cities in the series

sootopolis is my goat

[surreal vault]

So true

[torn ore]

Like I believe all of the Alola's Pokemon, trainers, and even NPCs' reference sheets have been publically released through art books

[spare hare]

yeah

[torn ore]

Except Zeraora cus he wasnt released by that time lmfao

[spare hare]

i just wish they would make them more accessible

[torn ore]

Waiting for that Mega Rayquaza concept art so I can add it with the other two favorites

(These are from the USUM art book)

[surreal vault]

Kyogre version

[torn ore]

Team Magma Grunts concept art.

[surreal vault]

They're doing the thing!

[echo bone]

making the M!

confirmed!

speaking of i love that your first look at female grunts in the game is zinnia herself

[surreal vault]

Team Aqua base

[echo bone]

but to any player she might just look like the default fem team magma grunt since you haven't seen her redesign yet

[surreal vault]

Look at that Archie 😭😭

[echo bone]

geeeez goes so hard

[torn ore]

Team Agua

[surreal vault]

Why be blue

[torn ore]

God hope there's a mega archive for these concept art eventually

[echo bone]

LMAO THE AQUA GUY WITH NO CLOTHES ON

never noticed he was wearing one of those old school swimsuits underneath

also damn i forgot how cute the fem aqua grunt was

[stoic kindle]

They're so slay

[torn ore]

Submarinos

[surreal vault]

The doohickey

[stoic kindle]

||the magma one looks fucking stupid||

[next compass]

Male aqua grunt silly n cute

[echo bone]

ewwwww the drills look gross on the camerupt one

also garchomp looking submarine

[torn ore]

Ages compiled by Anon

[harsh lion]

i like emerald too much to acknowledge team magma having a submarine ever lol

[surreal vault]

Hitching a ride on Groudon concept art

[next compass]

69

Nice

[echo bone]

NO WAY IN HELL ||GLACIA IS JUST 32||

[stoic kindle]

||Courtney is 22?????||

||I was thinking like
16 or something around it||

[surreal vault]

WTF

[echo bone]

she looked more like in her ||40s||

[rough kelp]

this been a thing in oras but the idea of camerupt submarine is like, naming a rocketship icarus

tempting fate ahh design

[echo bone]

wfdghjk

yeah

[surreal vault]

Is Elesa really 15

[rough kelp]

i doubt it lol

[echo bone]

no doubt so

that was for the first draft

these oras ones look more set in stone since they're remakes

[surreal vault]

Yeah

[stoic kindle]

||wait when do we see Norman's wife, I don't remember that||

[echo bone]

||i wasn't expecting phoebe to be 14 either ||

[echo bone]

it's your mom in the house...

[stoic kindle]

I'm fucking stupid

[harsh lion]

lmao

[torn ore]

https://tenor.com/view/little-big-planet-what-da-hell-little-big-planet-what-ayo-what-gif-13768843195184919620

[rough kelp]

the woman that moved in with you???

[stoic kindle]

I
I forgot Norman was the father of the main character
I forgot
Fuck

[rough kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/your-mom-meme-gif-23793166

[surreal vault]

What the sigma

[torn ore]

Why Calem standing all cool like that (he's so cool omg)

[rough kelp]

i could see that age for ||phoebe|| tbh, she's about the same age as the ||trial captains which are stated to be 13-19||

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/megaman-zero-scared-shookt-animated-gif-11538146

[rough kelp]

we were fucking robbed off pangoro hat???

[echo bone]

||phoebe looked more 18 or 20 to me||

[next compass]

Calem has unspoken rizz no cap

[echo bone]

damn skinning an endangered species
he really is french

[rough kelp]

well, I guess rival calem is french.

[echo bone]

oh right

where was he from originally i forgor

[rough kelp]

not stated I believe

whoever the player chose just moved in

[echo bone]

he's peruvian got it

(when wil lthey make a peru region and make skyla the champion there)

(her sygiliph needs to return home)

[next compass]

So worse, he's English

[torn ore]

The Plant of Power...

[echo bone]

THE POWER PLANT

[north fjord]

But can you walk through the door

[tropic pollen]

https://x.com/centroleaks/status/1846958459792904404?s=46&t=i2BZOfT9FAhyHVe1iyXCNA

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks) on X

Pyoro, I'm coming home

Twitter · Oct 17, 2024, 4:56 PM

He’s cooked

[spice timber]

oh

apparently, the leaker gave the z-a and gen 10 files to a few other people

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/fake-it-till-you-make-it-pierce-alexander-kavanagh-kavos-give-your-best-shot-try-your-best-gif-25241071

[spice timber]

in case they get caught

[rough kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/chipi-chapa-chipi-chipi-chipi-chipi-cat-chipi-chipi-dancing-cat-gif-10997735880837555564

[spice timber]

which like

????????

[echo bone]

it's a safeguard plan

i say it works

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-sweat-monkas-monka-eyes-gif-10994127

[next compass]

This feels dangerous

[shell sand]

its a onesie?

[surreal vault]

If this is true those 10 people are in no obligation to not leak it after this all blows over

[arctic bobcat]

so I see this channel had a collective "ZAMN! She's 12?!" moment

in the sense that these ages are shocking, not the other sense

[shell sand]

what a way to describe it then

i think when i first saw Roxanne being 14 which was early into the leaks i think it changed my entire perspective for every other age they'd make any other character which is bullshit anime ages

bullshit anime ages™️ its also applicable to pokemon

i mean Ace Attorney has like

18 year old "prodigy prosecutor"

so its not that surprising to me anymore

[north fjord]

Drake only being in his 50s is fucked up

Guy doesn’t look a day younger than 70

[tropic pollen]

@formal nimbus is this true

[north fjord]

Cyrus only being 27 was known beforehand too but I still refuse to believe it

[formal nimbus]

well... I need to check that information

[spice timber]

let me redact the message i saw rq

[formal nimbus]

well

that's different from saying that he gave files to other people

But I confirm this screenshot is real

[shell sand]

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729200022556721.png ||

WAIT WHAT LMAO

OK?

OK FRANCE

[north fjord]

France is pissed their country was done dirty

[formal nimbus]

oh

I know where this was on

[shell sand]

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729200541131592.jpg https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729200801765850.jpg ||

XY gym battle intro design notes

alex vs tink

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729200659664911.jpg || XY trainer battle intro design notes

apparently both of these were by james turner?

oh theres high res sugi art in here of older mons

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729200900134529.png || hyena :)

[echo bone]

waaaaah don't you remember teaching at school when you were 14

[shell sand]

what

[shell sand]

OMG WAIT || https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729200997412767.jpg ||

[echo bone]

(roxanne is a teacher)

[shell sand]

🥺

these are so cute

[echo bone]

nooooooooo they sent him flying

[surreal vault]

CLOSE COMBAT!!!!!!

[echo bone]

ehhh in the seas one gets older far easier

like sure he doesn't look 50 to us zoomers

[shell sand]

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729201131841159.png ]|| zigzagoon

[echo bone]

but uhmmm he was designed back when a captain in his 50s would look like that

[shell sand]

people are finding even more gen 3 beta sprites ???

seems to be when they actually started finalizing the dex so its mons that got into the game

[echo bone]

guess they'd have them handy for twhen it was time to make oras.........

[shell sand]

i have no idea if thats where they got it from but theres been enough of them that its consistent i just wanna make sure if theyre real

ok theres been quite a few so im gonna send them

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729202064866870.png https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729201974473704.png https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729201897069079.png https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729201735514154.png https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729201321968808.png ||

[spare hare]

||shelgon horns and shelgon nose||

[shell sand]

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729202137958895.png https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729202349381876.png || shiftry and sealeo

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729202419704224.png || walrein

[echo bone]

WTF
SHELGON WITH ANTENNAE

||also salamence on two legs... charizard............||

also huh, ||metang line with the latios colors... i never realized that||

[shell sand]

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729202724562397.png ||

[spice timber]

wtf

more gen 3?

[shell sand]

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729202134609186.png || they made an RS design May 3D model before redesigning her it seems

oh thats

WHAT?

[echo bone]

HUH

[shell sand]

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729202710903481.png ||

PSYCHO DOG FROM THE CONCEPT ART?

[echo bone]

GJBHDKJNL

PSYCHO DOG

[velvet bobcat]

this looks like the dog boss from earthbound

[shell sand]

pm3f_280.bmp

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729203012151015.jpg || IT WAS GOING TO BE REAL???????????????

[next compass]

THE SPHERE CORE

[shell sand]

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729203006459934.png https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729203001255002.png || zangoose and medicham

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729202856057374.png || skitty before they made the eyes closed

[next compass]

AND STOP STARING AT ME WITH THEM EYES

(squint)

[shell sand]

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729203084711224.png https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729203042533074.png || wailord and beautyfly

[next compass]

Lord it looked even edgier

[shell sand]

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729203160674831.png https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729203164109402.png https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729203218897898.png || Milotic and Plusle and Minun

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729203975901074.png https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729203682399769.png https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729203879321264.png || corphish and slaking and beta aggron? ?? ??

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729203658952168.png || oh theres just an RS may model in there

with a mega ring too

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729203824372684.png || torkoal's smoke used to be wispier

[echo bone]

oh god that pose had no flair

[shell sand]

what the FUCK WAS THIS MEDICHAM DEISGN || https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729203911186461.png ||

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729203940911513.png || aggron line

[velvet bobcat]

how do we have more

[shell sand]

ORAS leaked and leaked more final versions of RS beta

speaking of which

[surreal vault]

WHERE DIS THIS CONE FROM

[velvet bobcat]

oh crazy

[shell sand]

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729204026156607.png ||

[surreal vault]

WTFFF

[shell sand]

wailmer with actual animation

[velvet bobcat]

WTF IS THAT LAST ONE

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO THIM NOOO

[shell sand]

work in progress i guess

zigzagoon pipeline

[echo bone]

the pipeline

[shell sand]

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729204368898002.png https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729204351783664.png || azurill carvanaha

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729204585464763.png || deoxys

this RS build includes beta sprites they made of older generation mons as they were respriting them for gen 3

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729204804431790.png || clamperl

[echo bone]

i am MAD

imagine if they reacted upon contact

man that'd have been so good.........

[spice timber]

apparently, a mega jynx model was discovered to exist

[rose junco]

oh yeah I remember reading stuff about animations even in RS files

[spice timber]

but we don't have it yet

[rose junco]

since mentioning that, will also mention I did see it proposed to make battles 3D for gen 4

they thought about this kind of stuff bit early

[surreal vault]

God imagine we find it and it's just
Horrific

[spice remnant]

||Roxanne's whole thing is literally 'random girl in a middle school uniform' lol
The one I'm surprised about is Lisia being only a year older than the protag||

[spice remnant]

||Wtf not the Team Flare Maxie||

[arctic bobcat]

||that's not Maxie that's Wesker from Resident Evil with a red hair dye||

[echo bone]

||i remember general reaction being that they aged her down in oras with her new look||

[spice remnant]

Oh my god why does May have 2000s anime face here that's awesome

[echo bone]

||the anime did make her a teacher so that's probably why we were all surprised||

[shell sand]

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729208047177763.gif || gif based on the beta sprites

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729208070801128.png || sycamore artwork

[shell sand]

no i think thats how ken sugimori draws back then

[spice remnant]

||Ayo that crouching grunt art goes hard af||

[silver shore]

||Tumblr sexyman||

[shell sand]

also im pretty sure the ages thing still applies to the originals

[echo bone]

||oh no i meant about the outfit||

||but yeah that was the reaction many fans had to the redesign||

[echo bone]

😭

[rough kelp]

seeing concept art of him is so funny when you remember ||his beta name is patrice||

[echo bone]

it looks so neat.......... crystal coded

now THIS is the real crunch we should be upset about......

[spice remnant]

||Ooh even later huntail gorebyss||

[spice remnant]

||THE TENGU MASK ????||

[spice remnant]

||Oh man beta meditite and medicham had a lot more of an ethnic flare eh rip||

[echo bone]

||gorebyss still latching onto huntail like||

[rough kelp]

isn't this just anglerfish

[echo bone]

turban

[echo bone]

oh my god

well, it's the reverse, male one is the tiny one latching onto the female

[stoic kindle]

||the age went to her forehead
And that shit grew larger in-between the original and the remake||

Fuck

Didn't reply to the message

[echo bone]

still makes perfect sense the reply wasn't needed for context

[stoic kindle]

Yeah I meant to reply to this message I
Hate discord sometimes

[shell sand]

if theres something thats apparent its that every damn fandom hates foreheads

[rough kelp]

the unwritten rule to start playing tic tac toe on png of big foreheaded character

[echo bone]

yeah we have envy for them being big brained

[shell sand]

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729209151917762.gif ||

wrong kirbstar message to reply to

[shell sand]

i meant tto reply this one

[echo bone]

AZURILL

why is he so gen 5 coded

is this why they made him miserable in gen 5.

[rose junco]

look at him go...

[shell sand]

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729209422956591.jpg || look at that low-detail may lol

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729209393935607.png || hoopa shiny notes

[echo bone]

me

[shell sand]

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729209579903437.jpg || very detailed concept art for house interiors and pacifidlog town

[spice timber]

this fucks me up so badly

it hard confirms that they design shinies individually

[marble sand]

it means they consciously choose to make some of them ass...

[spice timber]

which means that someone greenlit this intentionally

[shell sand]

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1729210023075505.jpg || abandoned ship before it got turned into whatever the hell sea mauville is (concept art)

[rose junco]

yeah, there was concept art posted of some of the other ones already too

[shell sand]

yeah weve been posting more stuff here than anywhere i think

[echo bone]

supa mario 64

[surreal vault]

||"You see this? Pee all over it."||

[shell sand]

understood

[echo bone]

all just to avoid retexturing as little as possible

[shell sand]

basically means shinies kind of can be an entire retexture like a corruption thing

shiny porygon z but they changed it to be exactly that

[echo bone]

no way like pib

[marble sand]

And I do recall James Turner mentioning he designed obstagoon's shiny (as well as the base design ofc)

[shell sand]

transrightstagoon

[spice timber]

masuda walking up behind the calyrex designer as they were designing the shiny to tell them to make it look like shit

https://tenor.com/view/mercy-overwatch-come-here-gif-14280244

[surreal vault]

He cooked

[shell sand]

someone found something strange in the Gen 3 betas by looking into the sprites of older generation mons

[echo bone]

oh no

[shell sand]

and im waiting to see if its real or not

[spice timber]

what is it?

[echo bone]

can u post it just in case.......................

it'll make for a good memory regardless of factuality

[shell sand]

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729212645215044.png ||

some weird fluffy bird thing next to bell sprout

[echo bone]

looks like a quetzal

bellsprout was likely just for palette reference

[spice timber]

i want to eat it

probably tastes like moss

[echo bone]

i am doubting if it's real since that's the FRLG sprite of bellsprout

not the RSE one

[shell sand]

I see

i should have waited

because it is fake

[spice timber]

rip

[echo bone]

figured

now i will procede to meme it up alongside gaturro

peak.............

[spice remnant]

Alternate version of this design

[marble sand]

Do you have any more certainty about the ||plant dinosaur thing|| bc I know you said you doubted it initially but then said it might be real after all

I want it to be real.,.

[spice remnant]

Zinnia proposal doc

[shell sand]

oh yeah i posted/sent that earlier, the fluffy neck is what made me think it was aromatisse

[rose junco]

I mostly just get similar vibes in general from them

which might of been why it got scrapped tbh

[echo bone]

barbie heels

it might have transformed into aromatisse

[shell sand]

faye said it was described by jp text as a flamenco dancer with beaks that sound like castanets

[spice remnant]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296558541347491914/002e11ffd5a3592b.jpg?ex=6712b9bd&is=6711683d&hm=ffe2dc3255a5318f8b907bf8d9d072ab23065dff5e26e666172fbeb2baa01881&|| Aqua version of hideout art

[echo bone]

i love the rugged pirate aesthetic here with nature

[shell sand]

id like to think that there wasnt any actual archie design yet and the bg artist just wanted to put their own version of the design there as a flex

[spice remnant]

He looks like he's doing the among us drip pose

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296559018898100317/pokemon_y2013_yvetal.mp4?ex=6712ba2f&is=671168af&hm=54ab4d652b8dcb84521289cf6ec1231ca9ecdfd12e101cec2485fc40e4293414& || Awakening yveltal in a 2013 build

[shell sand]

wh

WHYD THEY EVEN

SDJBNSKJBHJSARFKAJSDHAFkjDjKtgpierbn

=ornhongfgnihuosnbobndsojbnsondfkbnsaouipnbasinsidphn

THTAS HilARiouS

[spice remnant]

||Y-WAKE||

||Yの覚醒||

||デモ(仮)||

[shell sand]

GOD

they had fun developping this shit even when it was tiring

i appreciate that at least

[surreal vault]

WHAT?????

[spice remnant]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296559775815045213/0d84cc5ac8b0b87d.jpg?ex=6712bae3&is=67116963&hm=7a3f2e8e1084d8642254fe8f8ce5a75f9485a076b2ef2a9cc3583d1dc5b62069&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296559776452448408/7280b87643c9dd8b.jpg?ex=6712bae3&is=67116963&hm=58bea464944f8326767911c77951bde5d75b8e4407c24a671333757d80dd117f&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296559777329057823/ve.S.jpg?ex=6712bae3&is=67116963&hm=6ae4f69fedfa67d8b6a72dcf08474bfe05d928d60e31ff697bf3e8a66e59faa3&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296559778054803487/ve.R.jpg?ex=6712bae4&is=67116964&hm=ae7f257cec048b1758dc5f7a629eb0aa45289896daf2c758d7c51b96df15e9f3& ||
base submarine room and cave of origin

[shell sand]

ugh they went hard

this feels like Pokemon Movie artwork

[spice remnant]

|| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296560518882000946/c516d703de9cd619.jpg?ex=6712bb94&is=67116a14&hm=98e907b4c3d6efbb3f4f584590269722903909e3d30004aae5b99e7590883260& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296560519477723137/7ff66abadb76a4c9.jpg?ex=6712bb94&is=67116a14&hm=823567739054d7c28667d7b38c1d2b2910bbe28b7feb20c2e6e56bc613ee25da& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296560520026914876/f46df7609400330e.jpg?ex=6712bb94&is=67116a14&hm=478c96b1fb212f63b2c8a55fa1a26436fb2e58494ef4d8669c9be53f97a4339f& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296561069002719312/f6568ae95e617dc6.jpg?ex=6712bc17&is=67116a97&hm=fcf109052afe8e286df5e271a0cc8f6f6bc9507283479c2fe17cc58f63add703& ||

[runic prawn]

so true

[echo bone]

awwww that's adorable

[shell sand]

i love the au naturale look they gave team aqua

i know its still there in the final but im going to appreciate here either way

[spice remnant]

|| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296562771256672266/127fd1fe8de5d6e0.jpg?ex=6712bdad&is=67116c2d&hm=80daa0ea034e7c4ecab203da6beeeac4ef94393d40d2286bb5c99469874664cb& ||

[echo bone]

yeah like i fucking love how team aqua got interpreted here

[spice remnant]

|| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296562822519455744/ver.R2.jpg?ex=6712bdb9&is=67116c39&hm=00ce85447cfde4415aa2dd32117338e67934be647dd0d61774161fd0a84d6b2b& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296562823962296392/ver.S.jpg?ex=6712bdba&is=67116c3a&hm=87aa24d3b49201cc36c2df1a50e1293281380d26e1cc7343202ad8dc6706a38f& || Riding groudon kyogre

[shell sand]

I dont remember these cutscenes

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/kyogre-chibi-pokemon-alpha-sapphire-alpha-sapphire-gif-3461915190446830143

[spice remnant]

They're cool af

Lmfao are these murals of kyogre and gorudon getting sealed in the final game
|| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296564385673904128/verR.jpg?ex=6712bf2e&is=67116dae&hm=ec41e939a70eef34f5fe13f11f4588b971e62692d864272ba6e4e59f1cd3f73f& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296565076655870025/verS.jpg?ex=6712bfd3&is=67116e53&hm=6b87001d41279282028f127777d4b7052396ff2f0d77ffd086a7471dc2d8e52a& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296565077897511012/1a1ae8d9ce3b0c64.jpg?ex=6712bfd3&is=67116e53&hm=f0678d985cb4abf6041bf2d8483dd1b37630bdde8b6a7c0c4191d1751a4b5ab1& ||

||I think they're just in the same PSD file or something idk why that third image is just both murals overlaid but it does make the mega symbol more noticeable||

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-the-lich-lich-king-adventure-time-litch-gif-3630070497349253076

[surreal vault]

Holy shit it is

[shell sand]

it looks like the 3rd one is just overlayed on top of each other

[spice remnant]

|| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296565311935483954/112a678eec04d338.jpg?ex=6712c00b&is=67116e8b&hm=eb2e74b5cae0fa9906eebd43998567356e175f18f54da5a8fbe95eb401e0fe94& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296565312573145159/45f72a50dd4bc30f.jpg?ex=6712c00b&is=67116e8b&hm=0e7880b7e6bcb530c49388381c9fcd3b19f8048e617fe3bb102e73b1df78f963& || Base entrance

Post champion storyboard
|| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296566579991154779/sango_01.jpg?ex=6712c139&is=67116fb9&hm=8a45b3505d1b98a7635ad968c8f0bee1e9c84c64f58dd1507d558c784375a15f& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296566580674822304/sango_02.jpg?ex=6712c139&is=67116fb9&hm=663b9cde49c1ad19239ad8138dc5afb4fe3e0c8f596e5e1e31871665dbb6e076& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296567306310258798/sango_03.jpg?ex=6712c1e6&is=67117066&hm=efc9ab0821194660bf41a8379c163bf93c2a6663b8f5bd614851dbbff49c9a8b& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296567306863771749/sango_04.jpg?ex=6712c1e7&is=67117067&hm=875826460bd850f4c10561877652543f174322f0e1baef2c91abc28c6022cb49& ||

[shell sand]

i did really like OR/AS's ending credits sequence

i think the vibe came across to the final personally

[spice remnant]

|| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296566578284068934/2.jpg?ex=6712c139&is=67116fb9&hm=e27aa9a6fbcd73bf45c3c24948e818dec2d3bc22e99df303ecfad14e6ed28bef& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296566579374456903/183fd6d267a77493.jpg?ex=6712c139&is=67116fb9&hm=7f1078b98890e8362822233cf34fae81d9a8fb3c58c7de60fe04a2cfaf3de3d3& || mauville

[shell sand]

mallville

wait so do you think mallville was inspired by some of the unused xy ideas

[spice remnant]

idk

[next compass]

So cute

[spice remnant]

||Seasons in|| Sootopolis and uhhhhh Cave of Origin entrance I think
||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296568474285637662/-2.jpg?ex=6712c2fd&is=6711717d&hm=c3477afb3b7ad7e9aac0ab8a09d90f868ad79d838c7f465c174bb7af5d88145d& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296568475225165906/-2.jpg?ex=6712c2fd&is=6711717d&hm=c528019d85990fe2aeb565f289aa67268069962af546d44f919cb89d000a0914&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296568476122484777/1.jpg?ex=6712c2fd&is=6711717d&hm=1b67bd8d12dce7506682b1a9d4cc198b0ee6e99d943fc5967be4b5781a47df2e& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1295314093837652001/1296568476789637162/2.jpg?ex=6712c2fd&is=6711717d&hm=d6d04f8a3918856646946a8b1811d29480ee8710a1c29795086bf3a01db72d49& ||

[spare hare]

Yea it's supposed to be the Big Fucking Tree that AZ apparently dropped off

[spare hare]

Oh That's her rs artwork lol

[spice remnant]

Lol ||Bean Pokemon changed to Nut Pokemon
I'm hearing the peanut Pokemon concept art we saw is what eventually became Gogoat||

Bruh

[surreal vault]

$#^$SsgfhdAtff

[shell sand]

we used to be able to get facial hair :(

also

[velvet bobcat]

omfg

[shell sand]

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1729214095378635.png || ludicolo beta sprite

[echo bone]

KABHDKJsnkmalsdnkbj

FROG MONKEY

he looks like a drill dozer sprite

[marble sand]

Wait so that's the ||dinosaur thing|| right???

||The one that kinda looks like breloom||

[shell sand]

yeah

[marble sand]

So it is certainly real - that's awesome

[shell sand]

i wonder if the reason why that one and the other artworks are different are because theyre by diff designers or something

[shell sand]

oh yeah i got word that its real earlier

[echo bone]

reminds me of this fuck from ultraman

[spice remnant]

Another serena outfit idt was posted here

[shell sand]

is that her pajamas

[spice remnant]

Oh yea maybe

[echo bone]

from the XY anime yeah

[spice remnant]

Unova Route 6 in XY

early aqua magma grunt and gym leader themes

[shell sand]

who wears a bow to bed...

[shell sand]

Ougghhhhhhhhh i want ORCHESTRATIONS OF BW MUSIC NOW

i think its very funny that of all the games prior to PLA, Sinnoh is the only game with like

a unique genre of style with their routes

everything else goes for trumpets and orchestral

theres some tracks from specific games that are diff like Route 111 Hoenn or Route 10 unova but its like

Specifically Gen 4 that has it as the default style

[marble sand]

If they had decided to put this in the game the same way they included that jubilife remix, I think the nostalgia would hit a lot of people (ignoring the games were only a couple years old at this point)

[shell sand]

YOU MADE ME REMEMBER XY JUBILIFE REMIX

[marble sand]

That one's so good

[shell sand]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4sQ6qXZpog&pp=ygULWFkganViaWxpZmU%3D

🥺

[echo bone]

if i heard that song while playing the game on release day i'd have gone:

(i mean i was already like that when i got to unwavering emotion remix despite having only played BW that same year LOL)

[marble sand]

Something about xy's orchestration adds to the feeling lol

[spice remnant]

Apparently they found proposal docs for Gen V pokemon so we have official name inspirations

[shell sand]

FUCK YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[spice remnant]

Apparently Zorua comes from Zorro (spanish for fox) + Roar then Zoroark adds Aku (jp for evil) at the end

So their names are more like Zoroar and Zoroaku

Can't see the JP only someone posting a google translated version but apparently Gothita's JP name Gothim/Gochimu comes from Gothic + Fat (Maybe プチデブ Puchidebu idk)

[rose junco]

yeah that's what I was mentioning earlier

[quartz nacelle]

Lmao im the reverse cause i find digimon too human which just some exceptions

[shell sand]

digimon is for scalies not furries

[runic prawn]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[shell sand]

RIGHT?

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/digimon-adventure-2020-anime-gif-23233647

[echo bone]

i'm mostly fine with that since the digital world has no humans itself and they're all just as sentient as humans are

[spice remnant]

||Garbage bag gulpin????||

||Seviper's slashes are scars||

[echo bone]

holy

[spice timber]

oh my god

[next compass]

This YOUR trubbish?

[surreal vault]

OwOgglytuff

[spice remnant]

||Shelgon with a nose and shelgon with antennae and Gen I moltres||

[rose junco]

||with Swalot being gold, heard someone theorize it was originally rags to riches motif||

[echo bone]

gen 2 moltres acshually

[next compass]

||what happened to that carvanha||

[echo bone]

DISCO

[warped ferry]

||if there's any scrapped pokemon that i'm stealing for my fakedex it's the peanut one (my fan region is based on the southeast us which produces more peanuts than any other part of the country so Yippee Free Mon)||

[next compass]

||we lost smug Mewtwo....||

Well I don't think it looks smug

[spare hare]

that mewtwo pose is hilarious

[next compass]

But it exudes that energy

[warped ferry]

||mewtwo but instead of wanting to kill everyone he just wants to dance||

[spice remnant]

||Old Hitmonchan and dragon milotic||

[next compass]

"I am sooo much better than you"

[spare hare]

wth ||green solrock and lunatone||

also seeing ||grovyle pop up again and again as they try to figure out what to do with this sick design is funny af ||

[next compass]

||Wtf that Shedinja||

Absolutely horrifying

[spice remnant]

||Black plusle and minun||

[marble sand]

Oh wow ||ludicolo got a glow up||

[next compass]

What I really liked was ||how they struggled to draw wingulls wings||

[shell sand]

people said it might be a thief bag

the jp thief stereotype

[surreal vault]

(Meme)

[next compass]

TRUEEEEE

[echo bone]

FUCKING KNEW IT

KNEW THEY TURNED THE DRAGON BIRD INTO ALTARIA

[echo bone]

lmao

now replace the hammers part with some competitive item

[shell sand]

hammer arms

[spice remnant]

Random other stuff

[shell sand]

freaky face flaps

[spice remnant]

Lysandre storyboards

[next compass]

Lysanderoth!!!

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/prozd-hehe-thats-me-gif-23567562

[shell sand]

really interesting that each camera angle change was like