Leaks for Pokémon

[tropic pollen]

they were probably rushing for the finish line

[spare hare]

the fuckass gen 3 shit is probably the wildest stuff in terms of beta designs

i will say looking at all the beta gen 3 stuff, i really appreciate their quality assurance for designs lol

[rose junco]

at least we still have the art stuff in the gen 6 protos so far

[shell sand]

Gen 1 2 and 3 are when the wildest happened

but 4 and 5 has their fair share of itneresting designs

mainly because its easier to put a png to a 2D game

even in the XY betas, they put PNGs on a flat plane to simulate the pokemon before the model was finished

[spare hare]

of course i'm sure not all of those sprites were finalized, etc etc, but they did a good job generally with the official stuff

[shell sand]

and because it had to be a png, at that point its better to design the mon seperately from development

especially since the 3D side had so much new shit to figure out

Gen 6 was pretty tame when it finally released but they had to figure out like

Everything

gen 6 has a lot of its own unique new mechanics that sometimes arent new nowadays but they still put in effort to do that

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1728904910443154.png || gen 5 beta

[tropic pollen]

same lol

a lot of them are cute, like beta grumpig, but a lot of them are also just not up to par

[restive silo]

Some of them just suck so hard

[shell sand]

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1728906526986800.png || lumiose beta

[restive silo]

za looks great

[shell sand]

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1728906723342773.png || beta kalos map

||https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1728908207476916.png || another image of a beta XY battle

litleo's name here is lit. child lion

its also one consonant away from Koraidon lol

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1728908629401294.png || xy screen for learning moves (learning Leaf Tornado)

Leaf Tornado is normal type for some reason so i guess moves were also constantly just being added to the game/engine

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1728910635180455.png || flabebe with placeholder name

[rose junco]

yeah some of the early names are already listed on TCRF btw

[shell sand]

Fairy type seems to be have been in the game's production since these versions, because its already been implemented

[rose junco]

https://tcrf.net/Development:Pokémon_X_and_Y#Early_Names

[shell sand]

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1728913513503602.png || snorlax story event in XY's beta (snorlax isnt even there)

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1728914069155572.png || XY holo.gram thing i forgot that gets used for the story. Beta

oh they found the psd file for Pokemon Sapphires jp logo i think

[tropic pollen]

||Holo Caster||

[shell sand]

|| https://files.catbox.moe/fj2pro.mp4 || XY photo booth beta clip

[tranquil laurel]

Has there been any early Kalos designs

[harsh lion]

two that i recall but it was pretty much just different colors

for ||Hawlucha and Volcanion||

[shell sand]

4

[harsh lion]

||Hawlucha was mostly blue instead of red and Volcanion was brown also instead of red iirc||

[tropic pollen]

there's been like 3, i saw an early ||tyrunt|| too

[tropic pollen]

yea that

[harsh lion]

oh yea I forgot about ||klefki||

[tropic pollen]

||really wish that Hawlucha was the shiny form, its a really good palette||

[shell sand]

they found a graph

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1728915083152230.jpg ||

idk what any of it means

but its a graph of going down

[tranquil laurel]

Oh interesting

[shell sand]

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1728915225564145.png || beta furfrou maze thing in the story (XY)

a lot of XY's beta is already set in stone so theres really not a lot interesting here other than here's how it looked mid-development

[cerulean bluff]

goshdarn that leaker for hyping it up so much and then it being so underwhelming lol

then again it is 100 gb so maybe theres still something cool in there somewhere...

[shell sand]

|| https://files.catbox.moe/spvbk8.mp4 || there's a Dive HM debug feature in XY

it seems that it wasnt really used for anything nor did it take you to a different map like in Gen 3

it just. puts your model deeper in the water

[cerulean bluff]

lmao

[shell sand]

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1728918844879673.png || qualidin's artwork

another actual beta design

https://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/thumb/b/bd/651Quilladin_XY_anime.png/120px-651Quilladin_XY_anime.png

they changed the head to look like this

[rose junco]

that's in the Horizons proposal, popularity of the anime over time

[shell sand]

naruhodou

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1728919015701044.png || this was already in TCRF a fuckton long time ago but theres a missing spot between Bergmite and Avalugg that hints at them having a mid-evo at some point

[restive silo]

I love you quilladin

[tropic pollen]

oh wow ||i didnt realize that Journeys was underperforming like that||

[shell sand]

total of 5 changed designs from xy beta hooray!!!! woohoo!11

this is the amount i expected from the 3D era but i wish theres more

[echo bone]

he got the
teddy persona spinny head

[shell sand]

oh you mean how its segmented

[echo bone]

ya

[shell sand]

Please dont ever compare quilladin to teddy ever again

🫶🏾

[echo bone]

i will do it again.

that segmented head would have helped a lot in his design

[cerulean bluff]

no actually, from what i understand

oh wait nvm i misread your post

[echo bone]

always felt quilladin looked pretty weak visually, the fully round body did that

[shell sand]

uhm actually he was everything to me

[rose junco]

going to go to bed, will probably look into more stuff again when I wake up

[shell sand]

btw

[cerulean bluff]

good night

[shell sand]

this is currently speculated to be gardevoir's spiritual predecessor

which seems to be referenced by having spider lilies around wally in ORAS

[final apex]

||"Yuuuu"||

[tropic pollen]

oh huh good point

[shell sand]

the mons also a psychic type

[spice timber]

oh my GOD

[shell sand]

speaking of gardevoir thinking about the fact that it didnt get visible legs in the games until the 3d games lol

|| https://fixvx.com/KongKeaArt/status/1845779838864347494 || this is so cool lol (eelektros walk cycle from the anime)

[final apex]

😭

it looks so goofy

xurkitree still did it better fr

[shell sand]

|| https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZ1ieSuXUAc4gl2?format=png&name=small || this is the striation trio's placeholder sprites like they really went and recolored them lol

[cerulean bluff]

huey dewey and louie

[shell sand]

louie's the green one get it right 😤

[cerulean bluff]

i remember its just the order their names are usually written as

[shell sand]

fairenough

[final apex]

why are they all ||lucas||

[arctic bobcat]

deltarune i think

[shell sand]

placeholder

wait thats literally ur name

[final apex]

hi

💀

[final apex]

red susie

[north fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/return-to-treasure-island-return-to-treasure-island-gif-26472512

[shell sand]

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1728921773281622.jpg || beta beartic stat screen

[final apex]

||dark type?||

[shell sand]

Hmm

im starting to think dark type is the placeholder for a lot of mons

[surreal vault]

Maybe you could skip trainers that way?

Yeah no I don't see much use for that

[tropic pollen]

my first thought was "finding items at the bottom"

maybe "crossing under a low bridge"

[grizzled turret]

Mitosis

[velvet bobcat]

any alien sightings so far?

[cerulean bluff]

so far xy stuff was pretty boring ngl

there's some cool techncial stuff and some earlier designs but other than that

its just the final game but unfinished

[tropic pollen]

||mega jynx's stats is personally exciting to me||

[cerulean bluff]

i guess thats one cool thing

[velvet bobcat]

extremely loud audible sigh... I guess it didn't really live up to the insane expectations

[grizzled turret]

||I do wonder if they removed it cause that mon is just so unpopular ||

||First mega with zero fans ||

[cerulean bluff]

theres still hope since the leak for xy is 100 gbs

[velvet bobcat]

They removed it because it would slay too hard methinks

[cerulean bluff]

so might be just scratching the surface of the iceberg

[velvet bobcat]

XY iceberg is particularly huge

So yea I hope

[surreal vault]

XY will take some time with all the password protections

No doubt there's gotta be some good shit in there

[velvet bobcat]

Is this the same reason as to why oras and gen 7 are taking so long?

[cerulean bluff]

expecting to wake up tomorrow for the internet to be on fire with what they will eventually discover

its all calm before the storm

[tranquil laurel]

I’m not expecting anything super crazy like scrapped designs

[grizzled turret]

i wanna see those juicy meshes for the newly 3d-d pokemon

[velvet bobcat]

Gamefreak HATES pokemon fans and LOCKS CONTENT behind password encryption

[tranquil laurel]

But I do really wanna see what mega jynx looked like

[grizzled turret]

still crazy how we're arguably in the least of the insane shit

[spice timber]

i wonder if it's just xy betas

or if it's more stuff like concepts

[slow orchid]

Praying we get to see some unused mega designs

[marble sand]

i want those designs so we can find out if ||mega flygon and raichu|| are real (my gut is telling me they aren't)

[grizzled turret]

also, take everything i say with a grain of salt, but apparently the leaker is holding za information as incentive for getting rid of centro

[tranquil laurel]

Well I mean we know mega flygon was at least considered at some point

[cerulean bluff]

iirc wasnt there ||mega raichu cry leaked||

[tranquil laurel]

It’s just a question of if there’s any remnants of it

[tropic pollen]

||both it and mega flygon's cry were supposedly leaked, but those files came from 4chan and could easily be faked||

[shell sand]

no because that leaker also mentioned fennekin having a diff design and its not true whatsoever

alien leaker was just talkin outta their ass

[tranquil laurel]

God

[slow orchid]

||Mega Raichu is either real, fake, or just a placeholder cry they used to test the mega cry effects (i'm hoping it is not that last option)||

[velvet bobcat]

It'd be really funny if ||mega raichu was just alolan raichu||

[tranquil laurel]

You have no idea how happy I am the alien plot rumor is finally dead in the ground

[shell sand]

i dont think their production style allowed them to think that further ahead

especially since their first and primary goal for XY was to just

make Pokemon but in 3D

[velvet bobcat]

I mean design-wise

[shell sand]

no idea

anyway im trying to rinse myself from refreshing the vp thread for a bunch of the stuff i posted to here

so im not gonna check for a while

[grizzled turret]

I don’t think there’s going to be much going forward UNLESS someone has a massive change of heart

[shell sand]

i mean the real hero here is faye because she's actually got the tools and knowhow to actually get stuff outta the game-related files

theyre not the only one out there but shes our most reliable actual source

[echo bone]

would be so lame if it ||weren't gorochu||

[echo bone]

mega flygon is real!

just never went used because none of the designs convinced them

[shell sand]

wait

right mega flygon was an OR/AS interview thing right

[surreal vault]

I think so

[velvet bobcat]

yes

i dont think that has much to say about wether the cry is real or not tho

oras released right after xy

[shell sand]

i get Flygon being faked

i just dont understand why Raichu would be considering that thread loves getting reactions out of people and no one gaf about Riachu

[cerulean bluff]

I GIVE A FUCK ABOUT RAICHU

[surreal vault]

Mega Raichu is like

probably one of the most wanted megas

[cerulean bluff]

now, on other hand

i dont give a fuck about flygon

like about most bugs until gen 5 actually did a bunch of cool ones

[velvet bobcat]

how do mega cries work again

is it the normal cry but with echo and background noise

[surreal vault]

yeah

[velvet bobcat]

do we have that background noise isolated

is it common to all pokemon

[spice timber]

mega flygon and raichu would be like

a cities will burn type of reveal

[shell sand]

its not just echo

theres a metallic noise

echo/reverb + metallic noise

[echo bone]

it's because of gorochu
https://x.com/DrLavaYT/status/1320178859665289216

Dr. Lava (@DrLavaYT) on X

Lost Pokemon of the Day: Gorochu

First revealed by Game Freak developers in a 2018 Japanese newspaper interview, Gorochu was planned for Gen 1 as Raichu's evolution, but was cut due to a lack of cartridge space.

(Photo descriptions & more info continued in thread below) (1/4)

Twitter · Oct 25, 2020, 1:42 AM

also the mascot's dad too but that's less important than it having an unused evolution

[velvet bobcat]

may i request a linky to the ||mega flygon sound||

[echo bone]

ermmm he's a dragon you dumbo!

[shell sand]

considering the original designers of gen 1 and 2 pokemons i dont think it would look as cool as that

[echo bone]

and don't insult pre gen-5 bugs

i love all pokemon bugs.

(even if flygon isn't one)

[cerulean bluff]

wowie zowie

[echo bone]

yeah this is all we have on this

[cerulean bluff]

as you can see my pokemon knowledge is rusty because i havent touched a game in years

[cerulean bluff]

GOD

i want to see gorochu so bad grah

[echo bone]

it's intriguing but we have no idea how it looks in front

[echo bone]

smh i was more knowledgeable in pokemon before i even picked up any of the games.....................

[shell sand]

my pokemon knowledge is just deprived of the details from the Switch games

otherwise i remember basically every little detail as i was a pokemon fan before the breakup

but like general gist for the Switch games i get, if i need details i look it up

[echo bone]

my unfamiliarity begins in gen 7 myself but i can at least recognize all designs prior to paldea

paldea is when i go "ok this began looking like neopets to me i'm not bothering to remember anymore now 😭"

[velvet bobcat]

its really funny to see where each person draws the line

[echo bone]

this fucker looks ai generated i'm sorry

[velvet bobcat]

i think each gen has someone like "this is the one in which the designs stopped being good"

only exception might be gen 6 because of how small it is

[echo bone]

puntable

[velvet bobcat]

this line sucks ass so much

[grand crown]

killable

[echo bone]

he looks like someone made a treecko bootleg

[echo bone]

it's good how many of its mons are bangers............

[spice timber]

he looks like someone put a baby yoshi in a hydraulic press

[velvet bobcat]

its inspiration is really funny tho

that stubby ass godzilla

[spice timber]

paldea has a lot of bangers at least

[echo bone]

yeah minilla

wish baxcalibur didn't also look ai generated

[velvet bobcat]

paldea feels like a return to formula after gen 7 and 8's designs, with the ocasional "yo what the hell is this guy" super modern design

[echo bone]

he feels like he was modeled first then they drew him

[spice timber]

this guy looks like one of those scrapped gen 1 beta mons

[echo bone]

he looks incomplete

[spice timber]

/positive

[cerulean bluff]

yeah im not fond of most of paldea mons

[runic prawn]

paldea has

[velvet bobcat]

i rlly like this one

[spice timber]

the entire nacli line is like

peak rock type

[echo bone]

also lokix i love you but you also feel unfinished 😭

[velvet bobcat]

best rock type line in the franchise

[echo bone]

i can't be the only one who thinks he feels incomplete right

[velvet bobcat]

idk

i think it already has a lot going on

[echo bone]

like the pattern on the middle doesn't look like something intended for 2d

like he feels unpolished, like he has too much going on

[cerulean bluff]

i think for me its the face that feels wrong a bit

[echo bone]

like the anatomy feels very basic on him idk

[runic prawn]

europe jumpscare in bulbapedia

[cerulean bluff]

the body itself is fine

[tropic pollen]

He lookk better in motion

[echo bone]

yeah it's the anatomy

[velvet bobcat]

i like the face

[spice timber]

lokix looks kinda robotic

[tropic pollen]

Aaaaaa!!!!!!

[cerulean bluff]

i wouldnt be surprised if paldeas pokemon just suffered from crunch just as much as the game did tbh

[tropic pollen]

This is on purpose

[spice timber]

i wonder if it was designed by the orbeetle person

[velvet bobcat]

lokix and nymble are very robotic for such a common specie tbh

[echo bone]

yeah i feel this a lot with the designs
like they just don't feel nearly as complete as gens 7 or 8

[spice timber]

oh nymble is peak bug

scrunglo

[runic prawn]

anyway peldea has banger character designs so

[cerulean bluff]

there are a few designs i really like though

such a silly billy guy

[echo bone]

iono my beloved

and the normal flying guy

[runic prawn]

larry moment

[cerulean bluff]

ace attorney character

[spice timber]

paldea has a wide variety of mons

and character designs

[rose junco]

(back up for a few more minutes before I go take a nap and saw this convo)
just wanna mentioned this lil guy, I like him

[spice timber]

i think that's why it feels so scattershot sometimes

[echo bone]

but yeah i think gen 9 is the first time i like the humans more than the mons lol

i do like half of paldea's dex tho
the other half not so much

[rose junco]

made by a certain Love-De-Lic lineage character designer too

and you can definitely tell lol

[echo bone]

actually no i'm lying this is for johto too

[runic prawn]

I do agree paldea mons feel either hit or miss for me with little middleterm

and characters are all peak in this game which is rare for pokémon

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-pokemon-violet-iono-gif-9664937022484731644

best girl

[velvet bobcat]

best paldean pokemon tho

🍣

[echo bone]

REAL

i love the sushi guy too.

[velvet bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/tatsugiri-pokemon-shiny-pokemon-gif-13951119658043147598

[echo bone]

very good water/dragon

[spice timber]

devious specimens

dondozo isn't far behind too

[echo bone]

dragon type is my favorite in pokemon since it's easily the wildest one

[cerulean bluff]

looks eatable

[echo bone]

it is eatable

[velvet bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/dondozo-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-commander-ability-tatsugiri-dodonzo-gif-27253428

[shell sand]

i dont mind Paldea's designs all that much

[cerulean bluff]

me

[shell sand]

biggest stinkers is the pawmot line and the dolphin but like

[cerulean bluff]

im the big blue fish

[runic prawn]

[shell sand]

generally? its not that bad

[velvet bobcat]

he controls you after that

[cerulean bluff]

that fits

[echo bone]

v

[cerulean bluff]

since spiritually im dedede

[echo bone]

very big man

[cerulean bluff]

one pokemon i genuinely dislike from paldea's dex is that bread dog. it looks so puntable. usually i like dog pokemon but not this one

[runic prawn]

I like palafin but I admit it's just because I have always wanted a dolphin mon so I like it for that reason alone. not a fan of hero form though

[spice timber]

i like pawmot for how different it is from all the other pokeclones

[velvet bobcat]

hop off the toby fox dog....... 😭

[echo bone]

wtf fidough is great

[cerulean bluff]

fidough needs to be sliced

with a knife

[spice timber]

i'd punt a fidough

[rose junco]

if I had a nickel for every dead dog Kurashima designed... (from moon)

[spice timber]

but fidough's fine

[velvet bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/fidough-but-hes-cracked-gif-26443768

[echo bone]

baby

[runic prawn]

this is funny though if you don't know more than this

[echo bone]

autism creature

[cerulean bluff]

it looks less bad in this anime frame

[spice timber]

i just don't usually like dog mons

[cerulean bluff]

but i dislike the official artwork

[velvet bobcat]

dachbun peak tho

[spare hare]

i think most of the newer pokemon look better in literally anything besides the official sugimori style renders now

[shell sand]

its just so annoying even Type Null's evo got rid of the helmet even though its baiscally teh same design

[echo bone]

floofer

[echo bone]

yeah lol

[cerulean bluff]

yeaaaah i think

those kinda fell off sadly

[spice timber]

yeah, they look far better in motion

[shell sand]

i dont think ken sugimori draws those anymore

it doesnt feel like him

[cerulean bluff]

oh he doesnt

its not his style

[echo bone]

bapy

[runic prawn]

I like fidough, at least its evo is better than boltund (although I mostly dislike boltund's 3D model than artwork lol)

[shell sand]

all of Paldea's dogs are good

[cerulean bluff]

evo's looking really good yeah

[echo bone]

boltund sounds like several bad words at once

[shell sand]

and are retribution for the sins that was Yamper and Bolthund

[velvet bobcat]

paldea was a blessing for dog lovers

[runic prawn]

true

[shell sand]

Yamper and Bolthund 🤢

[velvet bobcat]

6 dogs, one with significant plot relevance

[shell sand]

the Paldea Dogs: 👍🏾

[spice timber]

paldea was like

the dog and bird region

[velvet bobcat]

and 2 bikes that are kinda dogs. in spirit

[torn ore]

Last one he ever did was Stonjourner iirc. You can tell it was drawn by him

[echo bone]

though i still feels frigibax looks ai generated 😭 he so ugly

[spice timber]

wait, really?

[spare hare]

i'm pretty sure he doesn't no, and you can really tell

[echo bone]

all the pseudo babies look cool in some manner but he doesn't

[spice timber]

stonjourner's art has misaligned legs

[shell sand]

i think thats like what makes it feel like him

Ken Sugimori didnt trace from a 3d model

he took a character and drew them as a 2d illustration

[spare hare]

paldea's art has more of the weird renders

[spice timber]

that's fair, yeah

[spare hare]

look at toedscruel too for example

[echo bone]

yeah too many feel traced lol

[spare hare]

it looks like the ingame model but in 2d

[spice timber]

toedscruel is peak but its art is

very obvious that it was a rushed mon

[runic prawn]

bulbapedia has an incomplete list but I guess he stopped drawing mon official artwork (like for them all) in HGSS https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ken_Sugimori#Official_artwork

[torn ore]

I'm pretty sure some of them are traced from their idle animation lmao

[shell sand]

Yeah i remember Gen 5 and gen 6 being distinctly different but like

[echo bone]

oh wtf

[shell sand]

at least at those points Gen 5-8 it was like

well drawn

and hten gen 9 happened and its just whatever

snot bad but but its not worth looking at

[torn ore]

This and Baxcalibur are victims of trace

[echo bone]

awful! hate!

such a fall off from toedscool

[shell sand]

that ones also a trace

[velvet bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/toedscool-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-tentacool-but-heres-the-gif-27098341

[echo bone]

yeah but at least it's not the idle

[cerulean bluff]

toedscool is probably the most hilarious idea for a pokemon, let alone a regional variant of an existing one

[spice timber]

toedscool was absolutely the correct play

[spare hare]

https://tenor.com/view/toedscool-pokemon-scarlet-violet-running-gif-27666827

[spice timber]

over whatever the ground type gyarados was gonna be

[torn ore]

You can really tell it's Sugimori by the crunchy outlines, extra small highlight textures, and how he does the perspective

[spice timber]

yeah, it actually looks rocky with all the little details

[shell sand]

its the shading for me

its the highlights that feel lke theyve didnt care about making it look like the 3d model

[spice timber]

this mon was probably gonna be really cool, but idk if it would've been as memorable as toedscool

[shell sand]

now that Gen 9 does have textures on their mons it seems like they started not caring, ironically

[echo bone]

i'm still not over the misaligned eyes tbh

[shell sand]

not just the misaligned eyes looka tthe size of the eyes

its messed up

its not even an interesting pose either

its really sad

[torn ore]

Like compare it to his older works as well. It's like the way he uses slightly desaturated colors

[cerulean bluff]

wtf even happend here

[velvet bobcat]

bro did NOT flip the canvas

[shell sand]

what everyones been sayin'

crunch crunch crunch crunch crunch

[cerulean bluff]

yeah this was sorta rhetorical

[shell sand]

the fact that ||ZA is supposedly|| already in a finished state

bro that must mean part of their team

[cerulean bluff]

im glad that with legends z-a is being given time

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/luxray-alpha-pokemon-oliver-blaze-14oliverhedgehog-crunch-gif-15782512674368300346

[shell sand]

was already working on that game during SV or Sv's DLC

[cerulean bluff]

i think the latter is more probable

[shell sand]

it could paly well but its not really looking good

its just crunch crunch crunch for all of GF"s employees

no time to polish no time for finesse

theyre like singlehandedly just ruled by pre-production

[cerulean bluff]

well this is why it was pushed back thankfully

[shell sand]

just design first and then if game looks good on paper start coding and if it reaches deadline just ship it

kind of insane

I think Gen 7 was the last game they truly got to go "haha lets do something silly that matters in the environment theyre in"

8 PLA and 9 feel like they make banger designs but the areas theyre in have like no actual connection except for a few

[torn ore]

Actually I think Sugimori did this one too

[velvet bobcat]

gen 8 was absolutely like gen 7

[tropic pollen]

||to me it sounded less like the version they got their hands on was "finished" and more that it was "playable"||

[spice timber]

i mean they're seemingly addressing the crunch now

[shell sand]

yeah but it means pre-production was already underway by the time SV was finishing up

theres no breaks for this studio

it kind of sounds like torture

[echo bone]

kinky

[velvet bobcat]

gen 9 backs off a little but still true for several designs
gen 8 i think its the one who really goes all out for matching the designs with the region

[shell sand]

thats because James Turner was there and really really tried

but like the thing isnt that the designs are coherent or too silly or whatever

its just how they designed their mons towards the areas tehyre in and the ecology and culture

i think this is why i like Kitakami more than Paldea

Paldea reference some of its mons but Kitakami feels like it was lived in

[velvet bobcat]

i mean
is it fair to compare them

kitakami is like 3 mons and the legendaries

[shell sand]

considering its one of the things that they did well for all regions before it is fair to compare them

[shell sand]

thats not what im talking about at all

having new designs isnt my point

its the fact that the region connects to its mons well enough

like. the car mon from Paldea and the starmobiles would make soooo much more sense in Alola to me because Alola has actual city roads for cars

also Alola has fuckin cars

meanwhile in Paldea its mainly wilderness

they have cool ideas for mons but their region is just whatever

Gen 3's cut mons made me realize this

Gen 3's cut mons is a lot of crazy and silly ideas

[echo bone]

but then they actually made them fit the region

[shell sand]

but when they started finalizing Hoenn, they cut the ones that didnt make sense and made the ones they did keep make sense for the region

Yeah

[torn ore]

Double checking the whole Galar roster, Sugimori did the Galarian Slowpoke Line, Galarian Yamask Line, Stonjourner

[echo bone]

damn hoenn is the BOSS

[shell sand]

They put effort in to make the mon fit the region or the region fit the mon

vice versa

Thats whats really missing from the regions and pokemon designs

[echo bone]

i keep forgetting paldea is meant to be spain

[shell sand]

YEAH LIKE

[echo bone]

cause the region barely takes from it besides

windmill

[shell sand]

Kingambit is a silly one to me because like if it was designed for any other region

it would make sense

[echo bone]

why are the legendaries chinese

[whole rock]

me when checking to see if there's any more kalos mons posted here

[shell sand]

sorry i havent checked the thread yet

theres been 5 kalos mons

you seen them lready?

[cerulean bluff]

https://x.com/SuperMarioOOC85/status/1845891783164662194 uh its no pokemon but it is gamefreak

No Context Super Mario 🎃 (@SuperMarioOOC85) on X

Apparently Gamefreak was working on a remake of Yoshi lol

Twitter · Oct 14, 2024, 6:17 PM

[whole rock]

no

[cerulean bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uq9AtNhMuYY

[surreal vault]

I mean

Looks inside French region
Norse Mythology

[echo bone]

because europe, it's close

china is Not europe

[velvet bobcat]

i think they went well with the first parts of the game, aka mesagoza, the olive areas, the badlands areas, windmills... and then dropped off
alfornada at least was very in-line with the culture there

[void yarrow]

I'm hoping they are addressing the crunch for future pokemon games but I do remember rumours of the switch 2 being delayed, from what I've heard were at least somewhat credible people or being shared by credible people?), a little bit before pokemon presents

I usually would be a lot more skeptical of those rumours but how they handled the Z-A release, them just kind of dropping a Z-A trailer and putting a vague "2025" and then going silent for 7 months really feels like they were planning to do more but something came up

[surreal vault]

Also that's kinda the point
That they came away from a faraway land

Y'know

Spain

[whole rock]

ah... the blue hawlucha is nice actually

[shell sand]

the key point here isnt that they should delay

the key point is that they should take a break

[echo bone]

damn region so poor it can't afford its own legendaries

anyways tcrf updated for hoenn updated
it has all the artwork compiled in it

so have fun digging there

[shell sand]

Oh sweet i dont have to post that here anymore

[velvet bobcat]

thats true actually, i think the chinese ones make sense in this context

[shell sand]

also i dont really mind if a chinese thing is in a spanish region

[surreal vault]

What is TCRF

[shell sand]

just keep the spanish region spanish

like where's the big castles of spain or the paved roads or just spicy food stalls or big churches

[echo bone]

it's all grass with bad textures

[shell sand]

Sinnoh has more stained glass than Paldea

(this is referring to the church in sinnoh)

[spare hare]

all gen 3 beta pokemon

https://tcrf.net/Development:Pokémon_Ruby_and_Sapphire/Pokémon_Data

[echo bone]

anyways this fucker must havebeen altaria... it's a dragon bird........

[velvet bobcat]

they gave everything to mesagoza and then forgot they still had to do other cities

[shell sand]

exactly

like its such a lame attempt

they dont even have smaller settlements dotted here and there

not even HOUSES

[spare hare]

the cutting room floor

[shell sand]

its all jsut wilderness

liek no one fucking lives there

[surreal vault]

Ohhhh

[shell sand]

and youre telling me one of the cities has a popular vTuber

????????????

Like Ok!

[whole rock]

honestly this would be just as awesome as an alternate evo for swablu kinda like how gallade is an alternate evo from kirlia

[shell sand]

ill take your word for it but im also doubting you

etc etc

i can go on but my point is that they barely make an effort for the region and the pokemon and the characters to all actually connect

(except Kitakami)

(Kitakami wins)

[velvet bobcat]

it bothers me a bit how geeta's theme has that incredible spanish section and im like ok but can we have this feeling thru the whole game

[void yarrow]

Yeah, I was mostly replying to Tank saying they "are seemingly addressing the crunch now"

I agree they should take a break, I was just pointing out how to me Z-A doesn't even feel like it was delayed by them, it feels like they wanted to release it earlier but couldn't, just basing off how little we know about it 7 months later and how vague the release date is

[velvet bobcat]

nah but i still think its unfair cuz kitakami is very small

its quality over quantity,

[runic prawn]

holy shit what a massive page

[echo bone]

It's easily the least lived in region of the series lol

[tropic pollen]

ZA being pushed back is only a good thing

[velvet bobcat]

what if it was the other way around, and paldea only had 3 mons and it was just mesagoza, in both area and size
i think in such a small scale context you can make any region look super connected like this

[tropic pollen]

also, I don't think we can say for sure that "ZA was slated to be released in 2024 but was pushed back" is a true statement yet

[restive silo]

Omg baby baby baby creature

[shell sand]

i think something i just thought about while i went away to cut some onions to cook buyt liek

think about the code names for Unova Kalos and Alola

Unova is NY, and like yeah thats New york alright

You feel the culture melting pot vibe

[runic prawn]

still sad we didn't get this one...

[echo bone]

Beauty is lysandre

[shell sand]

Kalos? pretty bland but damn if it doesnt shove Art Nouveau on your face constantly

And Alola is rainbow and my god it really does feel like a celebratory festival of the culture of Alola but also of other regions

and then you get "Orion"

ok

and Titan

[velvet bobcat]

wasnt kalos whale

[shell sand]

yes

i may be mixing up some words they use

basically i dont know what they wanted out of Galar or Paldea

Galar is obviously british

but its like what part of nature/people/connection is it trying to rep

i guess sports

yeah Galar is sports

Paldea is like i dont know whats going on here

[velvet bobcat]

paldea is open world

[shell sand]

its "treasure"

but like theres no actual like treasure hunt

[echo bone]

I hate open world games!!!!
Every videogame should railroad me into a linear track and bother looking pretty at it

[velvet bobcat]

the treasure is literally the friends we made along the ways

[shell sand]

i mean sure but its like

thats whate very game did anyway

so it just makes the region itself lame

the characters are fine

[velvet bobcat]

i mean tbh did they really

[shell sand]

its just a big place for Paldea's story to happen

[shell sand]

Yes

[velvet bobcat]

i think paldea shines with its characters in ways that were never done before

[shell sand]

sure

but the region is barren

and lifeless

[velvet bobcat]

yea

[shell sand]

theres barely any houses you can enter

[echo bone]

The characters feel polished since they have to be made in synergy with the anime and everything surrounding it branding wise

Normally the regiom gets the same amount of time to cook some synergy but good lord never let them make an open world again without some basics in landmarks

[surreal vault]

There's....2 houses you can enter

[shell sand]

yeah and thats fucked

[velvet bobcat]

and they scrapped a fully modeled one for some reason

[echo bone]

Like game freak isn't the only ones working on the characters, basically TPC intervenes there too

[shell sand]

they cant make open world games in just 3-4 years but they keep trying to push for it

BotW and ToTK had periods where a single year would be polish and playtesting

because they knew they made a big ass world

all they needed to do left was add stuff in it

and check if the stuff wasn't buggy or bad

Paldea needed that type of period

even Legends Arceus needed that type of period

all of their attempts at big open space are just nothing areas. the Wild Areas make more sense because theyre 1 smaller contained area

but now that theyre trying to evoke wilderness and like Yeah

That Sure is Wilderness

[velvet bobcat]

i think what describes paldea better is really "open world"
its open world, its wild, you go anywhere, you're free to roam the fields
but then its a pokemon game so of course they completely fumble the open world itself so yea i get the feeling paldea is nothing if the major thing going for it is fumbled

[shell sand]

they just plopped the story and characters that were good with pokemon that needed better habitats onto a world that was mainly empty and could not be explored with the culture of the world they made being really hard to establish

[velvet bobcat]

then again it just always goes to the same issue of everything being rushed

i feel like it all falls into this hole

[shell sand]

yeas

honestly 1 thing theyve been cosntantly doing but doing it superficially is call back to the older games as a sense of the world/series' own culture

when i think about Zelda's variants inculding Echoes of Wisdom its like

The water area has Those guys, the desert has the tribe of desert nomads

[velvet bobcat]

the pacing of the releases and their rushed development is legit the reason of everything wrong with this franchise it all goes back to this its insane

[shell sand]

Pokemon used to do that, last time ive seen is Alola

but now ever since Galar its kind of them trying to wing it? if that makes sense

[velvet bobcat]

idk alola felt like the most different when it comes to that

[shell sand]

and Paldea is where it really

[echo bone]

Oh hey an explanation for lotad's dark brown color in the menu

They forgot to adjust it

[shell sand]

true

[echo bone]

daroachs theme

[shell sand]

i dont even know whats going on here why is there toedscool like, it sounds cool but what does it say about the region

Paldea designs have that air of "coudlve appeared in an older region"

it leaves Paldea with no real memorable area

[velvet bobcat]

thats exactly why i feel like its a return to old formula honestly

[shell sand]

?

also that explains why people love the Area Zero so much

[velvet bobcat]

formula, as in designs

[shell sand]

its the one area

where the reason for pokemon being there

is like explained and or explored

and made thematic

[echo bone]

Wait huh the mudkip bunny isn't in the tcrf page

Ok i think the bunny was fake LOL

[shell sand]

i dont think it was fake

i think tcrf just doesnt post concept art

does it?

idr

[echo bone]

It does

[shell sand]

hm

shrug then

[spice timber]

maybe that's part of why gen 10 ||seems to be taking place on a bunch of islands||

||having multiple smaller curated areas instead of one huge interconnected map would make proper theming far easier||

[north fjord]

I’ve taken the pill and now looking at the future game leaks so far

[north fjord]

This would be nice I really want this

||Smaller more curated areas like PLA would be so much better than one massive open world like SV||

[grand crown]

i think we should go back in time and make sure paldea doesnt turn out shit like it did in this timeline

[torn ore]

SV was just so barren with ugly realistic textures

Kitakami being small was actually a benefit because the place looks more polished

[north fjord]

I think we should back in time to the first Thanksgiving to take turkeys off the menu

[velvet bobcat]

i will give paldea credit for using spain as the open world region, the iberian penninsula has just the right shape and biomes for that
||going island-by-island would be an excellent way to avoid paldea 2||

[royal flint]

I hope that we get the same quality as something like monster hunter rise

it did so much even with small areas

[torn ore]

Also Blueberry was very vibrant and lively

[velvet bobcat]

||judging by what we know of gaia, if they choose a real world region for it i'd go with phillipines or the caribbean. greece would be yet another euro region in a row...||

[north fjord]

||Another Mediterranean region at that||

||Get ready for Arboliva again||

[torn ore]

||Oh got if it was the former then it's gonna be a nonstop discussion back at home lmao. They already freaked out about Lechonk. What more if we get a whole region||

[velvet bobcat]

speaking of ||island euro regions|| so weird that paldea's pokemon league had this boat theme with its icon (specifically a portuguese caravela) and then they just did nothing with that

at no point whatsoever such boat appears in the game

or is mentioned anywhere at all

the hell was that?

[shell sand]

they didnt finish

[echo bone]

yeah but at least ||greece would have cloud strife||

[echo bone]

if it's ||greece and they go all in the myths shit then i'm all in||

||it'd be cool to also fuse it with italy for the true grecorroman experience...........||

||and jojo||

||victory road needs to be a climb to mount olympus too||

[velvet bobcat]

||i would like to see this some day just not right after paldea and za lol||

[velvet bobcat]

||this will be gen 12||

[echo bone]

||they made 4 regions super distinct based on japan alone, i think they would realize too not to repeat||

[velvet bobcat]

||im mostly thinking about the fan's reception||

||might be good to do other continents to please different audiences||

[echo bone]

||i mean yeah but if they can use greece and make it island hopping i feel that'd be distinct enough||

||and greece has hella good potential for fauna||

||get up on the hydra's back||

[torn ore]

@rose junco sorry for the ping. But once you're awake, and since you're going through the anime stuff, (spoilers) ||Do you mind confirming if it mentions that Lucius' Shiny Rayquaza can Mega Evolve because someone else who read it mentioned it but I've had no other confirmation so far||

[shell sand]

i

it was real all along

gen 3 map beta

I think this is in reference to a beta screenshot pre-release of gen 3

[velvet bobcat]

i love what they did with this town

for like no reason

its really silly and has no in-game rewards

its so good

[shell sand]

?

Dewford town is a mandatory area

all beta Rotom Appliance forms

each of them originally had a powerplug as a tail which wouldve been a nice motif

[velvet bobcat]

thats not what i mean

i mean dewford's gimmick

[shell sand]

wgats its gimmick

[velvet bobcat]

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Trend

[shell sand]

oh

that

goofy beta riolu back sprite

[cerulean bluff]

bro saw something interesting

[opaque marsh]

real

[shell sand]

https://vocaroo.com/1jphvSaduQ13 beta xy route 8

beta torterra (Gen 4)

beta grotle

[velvet bobcat]

YO THAT INTRO???

why is this so much more epic than the og

[echo bone]

the best feature of the series you can make them say the stupidest shit

[shell sand]

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1728934637829139.jpg || supposed notes about France/Kalos as a new region

[echo bone]

he doesn't know game freak already did that yoshi game..................................................................

[velvet bobcat]

where the translator at

how do we summon faye

[shell sand]

|| https://vxtwitter.com/DrLavaYT/status/1845656038864716055?t=kyew20wr31bfR8onSbyvwQ&s=19 || (Gen 5)

[echo bone]

oh hey it was meant to be that one beetle from jojo

it's a gross one don't look it up

[shell sand]

Abomasnow beta

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1728936119644921.png || cynthia tcg art high res

[echo bone]

spirals

[warped ferry]

||honestly one of the regions i think it's gonna be greece is because this is both the 10th generation AND the 30th anniversary, they're gonna make this game a big celebration of the series, and greece would be perfect for that since it's literally the birthplace of the olympic games, yknow the event where athletes from all over the world come to compete||

[echo bone]

||it's also because hercules is the best disney movie and best KH world||

[warped ferry]

||debatable considering wreck it ralph and emperor's new groove exist||

||also toy box is the best kh world don't @ me||

||or whatever the toy story world was called||

[echo bone]

||you know what, based opinion, i just really love KH3 olympus a lot||

[warped ferry]

||big fair||

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/tornado-storm-calamity-gif-14063729

anyways ||you got some great material for creatures and legendaries from it alone||

[royal flint]

mommy

😍

[echo bone]

game freaky

(but i agree)

[shell sand]

uhm

looks away

|| https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1728937313834209.png || cropped screenshot of what apparently was the notes for getting your starter in gen 3

[echo bone]

2012 rpg maker joke game

||i do wish RSE did have black outlines instead of the ones it has tho.........||

[warped ferry]

||To Be Fair we haven't yet had a region based on eastern europe||

||kalos galar n paldea were all western europe||

[echo bone]

this one's more ||southern europe too||

[velvet bobcat]

||i want a greek region too i just would really prefer if they went farther first and then came back later to europe||

||pokemon will probably outlive us all so eventually im sure they'll do greece||

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[spice timber]

oh, apparently the reason why stuff is slow rn is because a lot of stuff is password protected

[velvet bobcat]

ahah called it

so its the same reason as to why the new xy build is being hard to crack

fair to assume that this should apply to all 3ds and switch pokemon games then?

[shell sand]

someone posted the early version of what became the elite four theme for XY that faye already posted

faye wins

[echo bone]

how the dataminers have been all day with the passwords: https://64.media.tumblr.com/538ed08dafdab8a22576ba2dde384f47/tumblr_nn80h0HrnR1tt3v7wo1_r1_500.gif

[warped ferry]

||would make sense since the 3ds era is when leak culture really started becoming a thing from what i know||

[velvet bobcat]

r/kirby remains the winner of everything

[echo bone]

ermmmm technically it was the gen 2 era when the game was out in japan much earlier!

[velvet bobcat]

when did gen 2 come out in jp?

[echo bone]

a year before in usa

1999 vs 2000

jesus a full year almost too

november 1999 and october 2000

[velvet bobcat]

oh wow

then usa got the game and movie like almost at the same time

[warped ferry]

||to be fair the internet was nowhere near it's current state||

[echo bone]

gen 2 had magazines leak the new mons overseas like in...........

[warped ferry]

you kinda had to actively look for this stuff

as opposed to now where some jackass can spoil the final boss in the thumbnail of their youtube video before the game's even out

[echo bone]

i am this shuckle.

[surreal vault]

Sock puppet shuckle

[echo bone]

and remoraid's true evolution not

[warped ferry]

pokemon but it's made by phoenix games

could you imagine if pokemon was public domain and we got stuff like this from third party companies that would be funny ithink
https://youtu.be/bopGf-gJmi4

[echo bone]

whoever drew these was going off the sprites actually lol

[north fjord]

Was this one shared yet

|| https://x.com/LostMediaBuster/status/1845890884048449937?t=ZfWPFOQMuRFXX9t3rMtV2Q&s=19 ||

Lost Media Busters (@LostMediaBuster) on X

🚨BREAKING🚨: An unreleased 2007 remake of 'Yoshi's Egg' developed by GameFreak was built in what would become Pokémon Black and White's engine.

Found in the B&W source code leak, enjoy over 20 minutes of never-before-seen gameplay!

Watch it here: https://t.co/Olr7yOys2t

Twitter · Oct 14, 2024, 6:14 PM

[echo bone]

yeah it was

dont post it

oh woah

oh hey

[warped ferry]

yoooo

[shell sand]

|| https://is2.4chan.org/vp/1728930513440354.png || gen 5 beta screenshots

mincinno almost has the same name as its jp final

[warped ferry]

||i love how the unowns spell out "dk??"||

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-kong-dancing-gif-13716268

[shell sand]

the question mark unowns seem to be the mincinno

so question mark unown mght be a placeholder icon

[spice remnant]

Rating of the anime worldwide, right side is separated into gender and age groups

[spice remnant]

Yea a lot of Gen IX art looks like they just traced over the model

[spice remnant]

||Wait ahhh all thhe rotom forms used to have plugs as tails||

[spice timber]

https://fxtwitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1845650030931124548

[tropic pollen]

yea this was shown earlier

[echo bone]

knew it

[warped ferry]

i think one of the biggest examples of the gen 9 mons looking better in motion is the future paradox mons. whenever people say they look underwhelming they usually only use static images as reference when the real heart of the designs comes from the little touches in their animations such as iron treads curling into a wheel when it sleeps and iron bundle's head popping off when it gets hit

[spice remnant]

||was this the one where they went 'but our famitsu rating!'||

[tropic pollen]

ya

[echo bone]

||*ja !||

[warped ferry]

||speaking of greece my brain is already cooking up ideas for what kind of mons could be in a greece region, i know a bunch of people have done this but nearly all of them have a cow starter and i have a Different idea. also i think it would be really fucking funny if we got a featherless bird pokemon as a nod to diogenes||

[proven bay]

Oh man why was that scrapped that looks insanely cool

[proven bay]

WHAT

Wait, we gotta check for some Mario & Wario beta stuff

Not just Pokemon

If the game's developed by GF there's a good chance some beta stuff for Mario & Wario might be in the teraleak

[spice remnant]

Looks like the early Lysandre theme is labeled as the grunt theme while there's a VS_FLARE_BOSS as well that just has the wild theme as a placeholder

God why is this so much better than the final version

[spare hare]

banger grunt theme

[north fjord]

Apparently ZA is actually potentially getting out there now

I’m getting word in another server about this

[grand crown]

so the leaker literally just straight up lied about it yesterday then?

[north fjord]

Thing is might’ve not been the only guy with access to it

It could all be a false alarm it could not but it’s seeming like there’s a good chance it actually leaks for real

[spare hare]

We did hear yesterday that some more ppl had access to the game

Idk if that was ever verified or not

Bc obviously there's also a lot of misinformation going around

But if it's true it's probably only a matter of time

[rough kelp]

there's a bit too much thing to keep up for me now

but chat, please ping me if my goat molayne's concept art is ever leaked

<3

[spare hare]

Z-a hitting the series first of being the first game to leak in its entirety before the first gameplay footage has been officially revealed

[grand crown]

jesus christ

[spice timber]

did the people say anything specific about it?

[grand crown]

apparently the leaker has access to gen 10 pre-alpha (at least part of its source code) too

wonder if that’ll get out there

[spice timber]

hm

idk how true the z-a stuff is

if the source is only this one person, and they're still uploading older stuff

they couldn't have uploaded z-a

[grand crown]

while this wont kill game freak there’s a high chance something will happen, just dunno what

[grand crown]

multiple people have access to Z-A apparently

[surreal vault]

How

[arctic bobcat]

i mean anyone can say anything

for attention

[surreal vault]

Yeah it would require the leaker to upload the files on the discord

[arctic bobcat]

words mean nothing until actual results happen

[surreal vault]

If they have, it would be known by now

[velvet bobcat]

i have 7 copies of Pokémon Legends Z-A

6 now. i was hungry

[surreal vault]

UH

HOLD ON

Waiting for something rn but

Ladies
And Gentlement

[spice timber]

huh, i think they found the password for an xy build from 2013

[surreal vault]

SOUTHERN KALOS

[spice timber]

according to a friend in the leaker's server

[velvet bobcat]

LETS GO???

[spice timber]

wait

WHAT

[velvet bobcat]

huh?????

nah nah no way

thats too much

[spice timber]

HUUUUH

[velvet bobcat]

they would never

i dont believe this one aint no way

[grand crown]

they could have been floating the idea

[velvet bobcat]

thats like a whole ass game all in that area

[spice timber]

it's so fucking over

[stoic kindle]

...what happened this time...

[velvet bobcat]

funny how it connects to paldea despite it now being an island

[stoic kindle]

Did the pokemon company come to your house a kidnap you

[velvet bobcat]

i think so

[rough kelp]

i was gonna reply to this with that origin palkia gif saying "southern kalos dlc?" but apparently it was deleted

the burning of alexandria...

[surreal vault]

NOOOOO

[spare hare]

was going to do the same, skelly

[velvet bobcat]

i refuse to believe this one its wayyyyy too much

[spice timber]

IT CAN'T FUCKING BE

[spare hare]

also from what i'm seeing someone has specified the exact location of it in the datamine so

[cerulean bluff]

Finally
Juicy shit

[spice timber]

||THE GAME WAS LITERALLY GONNA BE TWICE AS BIG||

[spare hare]

that is not twice as big 😭

but it is still interesting

[cerulean bluff]

It does line up with how much of the final game is uh
Doesn't allow you to go to places lol

[velvet bobcat]

its still like 10 more areas
its a very large amount

[rough kelp]

the fabled power plant...

[grand crown]

the real juicy shit is when we get to SwSh and it’s revealed that it changed drastically during development, thus explaining why the final product is shit

[velvet bobcat]

all with routes between them

[cerulean bluff]

Is there even anything from swsh in this leak

[surreal vault]

Ughhhhhhh it could've been peakkkk

[cerulean bluff]

Like, of substance

[surreal vault]

I saw something about ||16 gyms|| but idk if that's real

[cerulean bluff]

Yeah i remember that

[spare hare]

oh it is for sure a lot but i'm already seeing people saying they cut out like half the game or something

[velvet bobcat]

i wanna see (and with see i mean be told by someone who sees) that image in the leak's files

[grand crown]

didnt kirbstar say we’re only like 30-40 gb into this terabyte?

[spice timber]

i think the leaker doesn't have a lot of bdsp/swsh stuff?

[spare hare]

that wasn't kirb star, that was luigiblood

[grand crown]

what the hell else is this other 950 gb we haven’t seen yet

[surreal vault]

A lot

[spice timber]

losing my fucking mind rn

[spare hare]

@tropic pollen

[spice timber]

IT WAS REAL

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-13326362

[grand crown]

we’re gonna be chipping away at this goddamn leak at least until after ZA actually fucking releases and hits store shelves arent we

[spare hare]

probably honestly

both just to sift through the whole thing

and then also to actually properly like

verify everything and document/organize things properly

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/chloe-veitch-tik-tok-influencers-creative-community-yes-i-did-gif-17391997

(lying)

[spare hare]

tcrf has a lot of work to do

[velvet bobcat]

thats a very lanky pyrenees

[grand crown]

also i should probably cut back on the swearing a bit i think, sorry mods

[spare hare]

it doesn't matter

you can swear in the server, just don't go to slurs or the like obv

[echo bone]

bionicle???

[grand crown]

good gif i think

[grand crown]

ah thanks for clarification

[rough kelp]

this is paldea you can even see the madrid crater in the middle

[tropic pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-is-real-one-piece-whitebeard-the-one-piece-is-real-can-we-get-much-higher-gif-27138892

[grand crown]

that is MATA NUI actually and its a giant robot

[spare hare]

the insane part is that ||they wouldn't even bring it back for z-a anyways if the game really does take place entirely within lumiose||

[grand crown]

dont talk about it here

[tropic pollen]

Read the pinned message

[spare hare]

3rd pinned message now

[tropic pollen]

It existing is enough

[hot inlet]

oh WAIT SORRY

[grand crown]

jedi unpins and repins it so its the top pinned message again

[spare hare]

||i wonder if it was just going to be postgame or something?||

[rough kelp]

can you unpin and pin this first so it appears 2nd

[spare hare]

the game was already huge

[grand crown]

probably

[surreal vault]

The Birth of Gholdengo...ah....

[spice timber]

third impact

[grand crown]

didn’t xy spawn the shorter postgame trend or am i thinking of a different game

[grand crown]

tumbling down

[spare hare]

i guess so?

xy had no real new routes

it was just kiloude city + looker sidequest

[spice timber]

wait

y'know how these leaks have like

maps

[spare hare]

and some various smaller things but those were in the same areas

[spice timber]

of beta areas

and

[surreal vault]

Hm?

[spice timber]

data from those maps

i don't think this is all we'll see of ||southern kalos dlc||

[spare hare]

honestly rse don't really have that many new routes either but i guess emerald did have battle frontier

[grand crown]

id wager southern kalos used to be the post game then

[tropic pollen]

I think its possible considering
||A: the one postgame town in XY is already in the South
B: BW2’s postgame was likewise huge, its possible they wanted to do a similarly huge postgame again||

[surreal vault]

||I doubt we'll see much of southern Kalos if any at all||

[spare hare]

also it looks like from the map that ||the southern kalos parts are cut off from the rest of the maps. could just be a beta thing i guess but also could be that they were only accessible by train which supports the whole postgame thing||

||sinnoh did something similar with the battle zone||

[grand crown]

imma keep this message in mind for when it probably gets disproven tomorrow

[spare hare]

we'll just have to see, i think it's so early there's no telling what else we'll find

[grand crown]

exactly

[spice timber]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/551972811854577665/1295535976172752896/explorer_MBXOj2zhxB.mp4?ex=670f0166&is=670dafe6&hm=5ebcc2c9988421832300f959f481aa8fdb5ad1bc009537c430a5d54571875b52& ||

[north fjord]

Wasn’t the Wolverine game leaked

[spice timber]

proof

[spare hare]

my favorite pokemon game

[north fjord]

I misread

[proven bay]

Wait what the hell is happening?

[north fjord]

I thought you said the first game ever

[proven bay]

What's going on with Z-A?

I thought it wasn't leaked

[spare hare]

no real conclusion on z-a being leaked yet

[tropic pollen]

Can we talk about how ||the southern-most part ends in a mountainous area just like the area in Paldea is||

[spare hare]

this wheel interests me

||it reminds me of how lumiose is set up||

[spice timber]

maybe that's ||battle frontier||?

[proven bay]

Ah, good

[north fjord]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2023/12/21/warning-a-playable-wolverine-build-has-leaked-after-insomniac-hack-spoilers-abound/

[tropic pollen]

Note the colorcoding, King

[surreal vault]

@tropic pollen

[tropic pollen]

||pink circles seems to be things like caves||

I saw its byotoful

[spare hare]

||the middle is a smaller town, the big circle on the right is a big city, and then the rest are dungeon esque areas||

||interesting that it branches off into 4 separate dead ends like that, that's pretty unusual||

||and all from the same area||

||makes me think those 4 areas would have been related somehow? ||

[velvet bobcat]

i cant believe it

[spare hare]

really bizarre

[velvet bobcat]

it really is real???

dude im having a chris pratt moment

[tropic pollen]

Dont think we’ll ever know what it means or if there was even a real idea or plan behind it

[velvet bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/gotg-what-chris-pratt-starlord-guardians-of-the-galaxy-gif-11287925

[spice timber]

2013 build

[surreal vault]

Ohohohooo boyyyy

||Bubble gum looking ass Yveltal||

[grizzled turret]

there absolutely aint no way

what a time to be alive

[north fjord]

Aliens aliens aliens aliens

[warped ferry]

this is fucking wild to think abt

[rough kelp]

is that my goat...

[grizzled turret]

they feared what would happen if they gave the french too much power

[tropic pollen]

When ur goat is untextured

[surreal vault]

But that's Yveltal not Gogoat

https://tenor.com/view/hades-hercules-god-whaat-what-gif-7809145

[grizzled turret]

https://tenor.com/view/when-your-goat-is-washed-gif-16455088871344437051

[warped ferry]

oh god there's still so much more to get through

[grizzled turret]

i think that as a joke(?)

[north fjord]

I wouldn’t doubt it either

A lot of XY is password protected

And XY is over 100 gb

[spice timber]

yeah

[north fjord]

So it’s a slower process

[spice timber]

they just cracked the code on 2013 xy

[grizzled turret]

so the gens 3-5 stuff was only 40gb is what im getting?

thats insanity

[spare hare]

tbh i don't know how luigiblood is estimating it

but that's what he said

[grizzled turret]

i cant imagine all those text docs were that big but i thought we were like at least 200 gb in

theres a ton of misinformation either way

[spare hare]

he could be estimating based on the size of the builds that was leaked, not on like

the actual size of everything we've seen so far bc that makes little sense

[grizzled turret]

mmm understood

im still personally doubting anyone actually has access to ZA

if only because it brings me more joy

[spare hare]

also i'm sure there's a lot that's probably worthless to us or relatively meaningless at least

[surreal vault]

I saw some fake Z-A leaks a bit ago

[spare hare]

the age of misinformation

[spice timber]

oh

that's part 1

that's part 1 of 7

[grizzled turret]

gameinformer when they're evil twin gamemisformer rolls into town:

wrong they're, joke ruined

[spare hare]

honestly thank god we're getting z-a before unova remakes bro kalos deserves so much more 😭

[proven bay]

Wut da heeeeeeeeeeell oh mah gadd

[grizzled turret]

im kinda surpised we didnt see anything regarding unova remakes in the giga leak

[surreal vault]

The seven chaos XY Prototypes

[warped ferry]

i hope that when we do get unova remakes they make them super cool n epic

[grizzled turret]

unless we havent seen that yet

[spare hare]

this simply means we will get unova remakes after they have more experience with switch 2... probably...

[grizzled turret]

ilcabros...

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/please-give-more-context-gif-22337965

i keep hearing about aliens and xy what is this about 😭

[surreal vault]

Bogos Binted 👽

[spice timber]

o7 to southern kalos in this build

[north fjord]

To put it briefly

[velvet bobcat]

im turning into joel vinesauce rn bro where those aliens at

[surreal vault]

Anyways uh
Its like a infamous 4chan post claiming that X and Y had a men in black plot with team flare

[north fjord]

There’s a supposed leak that’s been up to debate about the validity of that covers an older plot for XY

[surreal vault]

And that when it was scrapped the concepts were moved over to gen 7

[north fjord]

Team Flare are aliens, AZ is an alien, all Fairy types are also aliens, Lysandre and Sycamore are the same guy just as a Dr Jekyll thing, the creepy house was supposed to have a Luigi’s Mansion reference for year of Luigi

[spare hare]

it's one of those things where it was just so ridiculous yet so uncontested that it became infamous

[rough kelp]

the suspiciously lysandre-shaped ultra beast in the next Z-A trailer:

[spice timber]

the suspiciously luigi-shaped ghost sprite in the xy 2013 build:

[surreal vault]

Holy shit don't remind me about Guzma Xurkitree and Lusamine Pheromosa

[warped ferry]

oh shit yeah i remember that theory