Leaks for Pokémon

[velvet bobcat]

we know about the hal spies

[cerulean bluff]

im probably on their hitlist

[warped ferry]

tbf they've definitely seen WAY worse things than some guy being gay for dedede

[echo bone]

also yeah lol

[velvet bobcat]

yea, i've seen people being gay for magolor, its unbelievable

[slow orchid]

oh so theres a chance someone there has seen my hatred for tilt n tumble huh

[cerulean bluff]

i dont think hal cares

[surreal vault]

Reading the myth docs leaving me flabbergasted, I cannot even describe them in this server

[cerulean bluff]

since they havent developed it

[echo bone]

dexit sucked because the games weren't polished at all
so it's sacrifice with no meaningful surface reward

[shell sand]

https://youtu.be/C8uLqBPTp9g?si=NGwkzMoecymR_qd-&t=1514

here's slideshow cutscene

its just like that.

its just a png

[velvet bobcat]

i like how leon is being so rational here

pointinh out how rose's plan makes no fucking sense whatsoever

[shell sand]

like what the fuck am i supposed to feel during this

[echo bone]

but yeah i think fans were justified to be mad because the games weren't bothering with minimum quality (which past games at least had an excuse in having all pokemon around)

were there any new universal animations made for swish even

[torn ore]

My gut tells me that our leaker friend here does actually plan on leaking the Z-A stuff, and it'll be after everything else gets out

[shell sand]

if youre not gonna keep up the quiality at least have the quality of having all ur damn mons in the same game

its not even like

impossible

the data's all there in SV it just doesnt have the models and movepools

[warped ferry]

i honestly can't bring myself to be mad about swsh anymore

[velvet bobcat]

I agree that our fellow leaker compatriot gentleman would follow such a course of action

[shell sand]

like yeah all of those unobtainable mons in Gen 9?

theyre still in the dex

[tropic pollen]

disagree

[echo bone]

like didn't they have pretty much most animations already done for gens 7?
like everything to do with the pokemon amie animations included too

[shell sand]

theyre still able to be referneced

theyre just not there

[warped ferry]

keep in mind, dev times

the past few games have been rushed to shit and game freak certainly knows that

[shell sand]

tpci is to blame sure but theres also a lot of things GameFreak ignores

[torn ore]

I'm hungry

Like not a build, just a mon list, or even just Mega Greninja lmfao

[tranquil laurel]

They would leak way more than that if they actually wanted to

[shell sand]

i mean theyve been leaking chronological order

[spare hare]

I wouldn't be very surprised if they did do it

[tranquil laurel]

Yeah

[spare hare]

Yes even despite what they said

[shell sand]

anyway speaking of 6

|| https://fixvx.com/pouaf_/status/1845406345274556565 ||

[warped ferry]

it would make sense for them to save the upcoming stuff for last since the moment they post future content in particular their ass is grass

[harsh lion]

not to be that person but bombirdier doesnt have population bomb

[torn ore]

We got tiny crumbs of Z-A from the anime leaks today and that was already so big lmfao

[stoic kindle]

||yeah that's Hilda||

[cerulean bluff]

https://twitter.com/OriharaPikarin/status/1845477743607062903?s=19
Check this thread
Basically Cyrus is autistic after all and that community note from earlier was debunked

SpongeRoy SquarePants (@OriharaPikarin) on X

the community note is so stupid lol, yes the kanji characters individually mean that but you can't derive meaning of the word by breaking it up like that, that's not how japanese works. 自閉 by itself means autism the 的 is used here to turn the verb into an adjective→"autistic"

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 2:52 PM

[slow orchid]

YES!!!!!

[shell sand]

and back to gen 5

[tropic pollen]

||makes sense to test a 3D model with a design you already have while you wait for the others to finish||

[shell sand]

oh ok

we getting gen 8

[grand crown]

wait. leaker has gen 10 pre-alpha source code???

[slow orchid]

||SIXTEEN???||

[harsh lion]

not surprised

[shell sand]

back to 5

and back to 6 || https://fixvx.com/Crownified/status/1845522353112948938 ||

[spare hare]

The lore already has ||gyms for all the types technically, it's just that the ones you fight ingame are the current active major league ones ||

[royal flint]

Yippee

[spare hare]

So my guess is that they were thinking about actually implementing that at some point

[slow orchid]

||oh right true, it was from those gym outfits right?||

[echo bone]

||no we were just talking of a pokemon who takes cares of others' babies, the beta rabbit has one like that||

[spare hare]

||as for the missing 2 types they could have been saving those for dlc, like with klara and avery||

[shell sand]

wait

[harsh lion]

||avery and klara are probably a remnant of that original concept||

[shell sand]

THE REASON XY'S MODELS ARE SO WASHED OUT IS BECAUSE THEY TOLD PEOPLE TO USE KEN SUGIMORI'S WATER COLORS?

[echo bone]

yeah it's that way

i only noticed a couple years ago

[royal flint]

@shell sand ||there are screenshot for a prototype build for 3ds, but I can't find them (that's the origin of the chibi hilda, it also features a big/normal 3d hilda)||

[echo bone]

which is why i've always been a defender of xy's colors 😇

[shell sand]

i posted that earlier...

[warped ferry]

||i find it interesting how a lot of super early x and y stuff is based on gen 5||

[shell sand]

|| https://fixvx.com/Crownified/status/1845525145210769567 ||

[royal flint]

ik, ||but that's the chibi 3d model, there's actual screenshot with trees and stuff||

[shell sand]

yes

[spare hare]

It's likely bc they were ||testing out models on the 3ds with existing designs ||

[royal flint]

like, in-game stuff

[spare hare]

So they could work on that before having finalized new things

[shell sand]

yes

[torn ore]

Anything new or are we still in BW2

[shell sand]

were going around 4-5-6

rn

|| https://fixvx.com/Crownified/status/1845520059650732393 ||

theres this though

[tropic pollen]

this is adorable wtf

[royal flint]

what the

so cute

big fan of the tank

[shell sand]

my thread's run dry

back to 3

Swablu was originally ||pure Flying||

so there was two ||pure Flying|| mons in the gen 3 beta

[echo bone]

yeah

iirc taillow one was one too

[formal nimbus]

I'm sorry HAL for leaking Kirby Star Allies Dream Friends

[echo bone]

in one demo of ruby i think astonish hit a taillow and the move worked and that's how this was reported

[spice timber]

gen 3 clutching defeat from the jaws of victory

[tropic pollen]

my friend you must let go of the regret ✋ do not let it dominate your soul with grief

[vale plinth]

very norse-ish

[grizzled turret]

Just thinking about it

This is all so fucking insane

Kinda breaking my brain

[tropic pollen]

you have to tag things

[echo bone]

damn more atheism

[vale plinth]

|| https://x.com/CentroLeaks/status/1845445639984853472 || i really like this creation myth

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks) on X

[ New, more accurate translation of the OFFICIAL ORIGIN OF THE POKÉMON UNIVERSE ]

In the beginning, there was a vortex of chaos.
All mixed slowly together, and everything was a blur.
One day, a large egg appeared in the center of the chaos. For a long time, the egg continued to

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 12:45 PM

[tropic pollen]

also, ||its much more greek and japanese than norse, imo||

[echo bone]

yeah but if a greek and a japanese breed you get a norse

[vale plinth]

i had more that idea from like ||how AUS is sort of an anti-ymir||

[formal nimbus]

lol

[tropic pollen]

i have something to ask my parents then

[shell sand]

3 ||pure flying|| lines sorry

[vale plinth]

but yeah i can see the greek and japanese in it from how there's like an extended family line

[karmic tendon]

me hates ||Slaking and Octillery and Typhlosion stories...||

[echo bone]

your dad is zeus

[north fjord]

I saw the bit with ||Octillery|| and now I don’t know what to believe

[karmic tendon]

Or just uncomfortable with these stories...

[vale plinth]

i'm interested to know what ||'birthly' 'smilay' 'dahabu' 'saan' and 'gordon'|| are supposed to be

[karmic tendon]

||Gordon Ramsay||

[grand crown]

to put it into perspective, let me draw a comparison

this is if you showed up to the Smithsonian one day and everything was just Fucking Gone

[karmic tendon]

who let Game Freak write some of the stories...

[surreal vault]

These drafts were never meant to see the light of day

[echo bone]

bad time to have these emotes in the server!

[surreal vault]

But yeah octobro stonks are plummmeting

[echo bone]

they indeed got very

game freaky

[karmic tendon]

truly live up to the name GameFreak

[surreal vault]

||Lapras and Piloswine too||

[karmic tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/gotg-what-chris-pratt-starlord-guardians-of-the-galaxy-gif-11287925

[north fjord]

I literally only seen the ||Octillery|| one what do you mean there’s more

[karmic tendon]

everytime I heard of one of these stories... some more pops up

[surreal vault]

||Some of the stories are copy pasted with different pokemon.||

[karmic tendon]

[warped ferry]

what i wanna know is who the fuck wrote this

[shell sand]

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[karmic tendon]

tell me there's not more

[shell sand]

WHYYYYYYYY

WHY THE DESATURATIONNN

OUGHHHH

[surreal vault]

||Slaking, Piloswine and Typhlosion are substituted in different versions of the same story||

[grand crown]

id guess we’re like a third of the way through the terabyte?

[shell sand]

gen 3 sugi artworks for beta shroom and beta huntail

[surreal vault]

||The octillery story has a version which it is replaced by lapras||

[karmic tendon]

I love it when a game for kids talk about mature audience stuffs

[echo bone]

oh what a shame
the right one looks like its colors in the anime

[warped ferry]

||i'd rather we stop talking about Those Stories as soon as possible i don't wanna think about them anymore :(||

[karmic tendon]

wonder how much of these stuffs were scrapped

[shell sand]

the watercolor color change design choice literally made so many mons ugly

You have no idea

[echo bone]

damn these version differences between pearl and diamond go wild!

[tender radish]

Just gonna put a pin in the discussion about that particular leaked content for server rule reasons please don't discuss it here fellas

[shell sand]

i will never defend that shit

[echo bone]

yeah i do

bulbasaur shiny died in it

[warped ferry]

thanku

[shell sand]

Hwoaow!

WAIT

IS THAT WHY THE SHINIES ALSO GOT CHANGED

i wonder if they asked ken sugimori

for every

single

Shiny color

[echo bone]

no i think they just got naturally desaturated

[shell sand]

damn lame

also its why Gengar's shiny looks so BAD

[vale plinth]

i wonder where giratina falls within this creation myth

[tropic pollen]

sorry to be a party pooper but I do gotta address this

[shell sand]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAXqd6GXwAAujkH.jpg

[wary rivet]

me trying to make feebas beautiful

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/492620227281158144/1295095146651713557/1728839362920785.jpg?ex=670d66d8&is=670c1558&hm=96e3f79140e2f66510065a52932d324e156223809d3fed6ba3ee23d35c6966fe&

[grand crown]

wait huhh?

im out of the loop on this bit does it like violate the not safe for work rule or something

[shell sand]

the bruxish

[karmic tendon]

I wonder how much of it is changed

[echo bone]

mfw shiny gengar so bad even the anime changed it for something else

[shell sand]

its soooo bad 😭

[tropic pollen]

New ruling about the aforementioned material:

Yes, there are texts with references to sexual relations in these leaked documents. We know, please don't talk about it. Discussion about sexual content is and always will be not allowed here on this server.

[shell sand]

i wish they didnt focus so hard on trying to make the mons looks so much like the watercolor artwork

[echo bone]

holy shit junichi masuda irl

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-unusannus-gif-22358896

[shell sand]

actually

i have to check

[grand crown]

I see.

[vale plinth]

the creation myth sigil is referenced in arceus's summoning

[karmic tendon]

I know, but like, existence of Giratina

or ||Palkia and Diagla being Light and Dark? I think? Maybe I misread it||

[shell sand]

i think they straight up asked ken sugimori for color changes

maybe it was just a quick "ok heres it desaturated is that good" and all he needed to do was say yes

[echo bone]

yeah the new shiny espeon no longer has a gem

crazy

[shell sand]

barfs

[cerulean bluff]

man i wondered why gengar looked so

not purple

crazy

[echo bone]

no way shiny espeon color!

[shell sand]

but yeah

Watercolor color change was like

the worst change they ever made genuinely

heart_hands

[echo bone]

blame sugimori's 2004 watercolor!

[shell sand]

tbf

[cerulean bluff]

i like the artwork

[shell sand]

thats EXACTLY WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE

[cerulean bluff]

its just

it shouldve stayed just being an artwork

its stylization that doesnt exist in the games

if everything else had this watercolor look to its textures. sure

but they literally just made color palette worse

[shell sand]

the only time it feels stylized in the main games is PLA

[cerulean bluff]

yeah

[echo bone]

i admit i do like the synergy with the sugimori artwork

[shell sand]

and im pretty sure that game made every mon like

saturated up

[cerulean bluff]

yeah

[shell sand]

which is IRONIC

[cerulean bluff]

it has better colors

[shell sand]

LIKE WYM

[echo bone]

but yeah it wasn't a good choice by the end

[cerulean bluff]

well thats another thing

sugimori's artwork isnt the only one that existed by 2004

[echo bone]

didn't paldea revise a bunch of colors too

[cerulean bluff]

there's also anime which is way more vibrant

paldea straight up has better/different textures for all pokemon that look more natural

[shell sand]

paldea didnt just revise colors they also introduced normal textures and what not

which means like

[cerulean bluff]

like you can see scales on ekans and shit

[echo bone]

still so happy for them

[shell sand]

now they have an extra coating of paint

[spare hare]

Spoiler tags

[shell sand]

now if the colors still bad you also have to contend with the texture mapping

[cerulean bluff]

i hope these textures are new standard because id like to see them used in a game that

functions

[shell sand]

double the work

[echo bone]

i can take the sugimori colors if there's at least decent textures and shaders
and to be fair, gen 9 does have decent shaders!

and good mon textures

now we just need the ground to look as good...

[shell sand]

BABY WE HAVE VIDEOS

|| https://fixvx.com/Crownified/status/1845537451034783898 ||

[echo bone]

YOOOOOOOOOOOGCHAMP

[shell sand]

|| https://fixvx.com/Crownified/status/1845537451034783898/video/2 ||

[cerulean bluff]

this feels illegal to watch

[cerulean bluff]

🙏 legends z-a save us all

[opaque marsh]

holy shit

real

[cerulean bluff]

its not in the final game?

never played bw2

[shell sand]

bro thats bw 1

theyre still using gen 4 assets because theyre still making gen 5

[cerulean bluff]

oh wait

OH i misread because of the person's username

[echo bone]

oh i
i don't like these ground colors 😭
still cool as hell but yipes so rough!
also wtf is this battle ui

[shell sand]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT

[cerulean bluff]

i mean its an early build

of course its

well

the way it is

[cerulean bluff]

what the fuck is this thing.

[echo bone]

yeah i'm just shocked!

[echo bone]

my son.

and you shall not call him This Thing

[cerulean bluff]

he looks like elfilin's distant cousin

[echo bone]

speaking of did you see last night's red elfilin

[cerulean bluff]

nope

[spare hare]

It was leaked earlier today, ||it's some bubble mouse thing apparently||

[cerulean bluff]

its very hard to keep track of all leaked mons

[cerulean bluff]

ITS EVEN ANIMATED

[warped ferry]

||given how like half of the unova dex is counterparts to past mons i feel like this thing was meant to be a marill counterpart but they couldn't figure out how to make it not look like just Marill 2||

[cerulean bluff]

bet they felt bad for scrapping it

[echo bone]

ok so you know this one from gen 2 right

[cerulean bluff]

yes

[echo bone]

it was also in gen 3

[cerulean bluff]

literally just elfilin lmao 😭

[cerulean bluff]

oh my goodness

[echo bone]

stitch neopets looking ass!

[cerulean bluff]

chili elfilin

[echo bone]

traitor elfilin

[cerulean bluff]

tomato elfilin

[shell sand]

theres a lot more silly shapes in this beta lol

[cerulean bluff]

he looks like i can take a bite out of him

[echo bone]

wonderland

[cerulean bluff]

i think they experimented with giving the ground more realistic feel

as in, not all being flat

[echo bone]

it looks so goofy here lol

[cerulean bluff]

yeah

[echo bone]

oh lawd

[unkempt mirage]

im desperately trying to read through the backlog of this channel and its just pure insanity how much was leaked

[shell sand]

the entire history of gamefreak

[echo bone]

mfw i haven't even caught up to the 6 hours between i sleeping and me waking up

[shell sand]

youre going to literally have to live 20 m ore years for this to become "half" the series again

[unkempt mirage]

its so over

[echo bone]

it's over back off this is it it's over back off this is it it's over back off this is it it's over back off this is it

[warped ferry]

i love living through a major fucking event

[cerulean bluff]

its one major event i dont mind living through

[shell sand]

pokemon has just lost one of its last things it had

development mystique

now that i know that they literally just operate like any old fangame with their own fandex

this is like

[cerulean bluff]

not unless they have stuff about gen1-2

[shell sand]

Wow.

i can do that

[cerulean bluff]

which to me is arguably still the most interesting

[shell sand]

those are probably more physical materials lost to time

unfortunately

[cerulean bluff]

i wouldnt be surprised

[shell sand]

but we did already peek into all of the digital materials abou tit

[cerulean bluff]

i just want gorochu

:(

[torn ore]

Wow the sudden surge of Skyla fanart is hilarious lmfao

[echo bone]

iirc the leaked pokemon gen 1 sprites were from blue

which had erased the assets of red/green

[warped ferry]

gamefreak when latinas

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/fearless-year-of-shadow-year-of-shadow-shadow-the-hedgehog-sonic-movie-3-sonic-movie-3-shadow-gif-2199999771942619526

based.

[shell sand]

freak

[echo bone]

skyla was always best girl.

[echo bone]

game

[unkempt mirage]

skyla sweeps 🔥

[shell sand]

someone asked me whats the gist of designing a mon

[strange glade]

SILLY SHAPES ‼️

[shell sand]

and the fact that i told them it was just "they just did fucker they want"

"reiterate it later"

[cerulean bluff]

i mean they still have standards

[shell sand]

and they were so surprised

[cerulean bluff]

which is why a lot of designs are unused

[shell sand]

like it wasnt this whole thing where you have to be sure which one goes where

[soft latch]

i feel bad for the poor game freak employee who clicked that link he's either living the rest of his days in rural burma or the nintendo ninjas will butcher him

[shell sand]

its quite genuinely like

[cerulean bluff]

there are some cool fakemon

[shell sand]

haha silly creature

ok time to put creature in a route

ok time to refine creature design to fit into route and rest of game

ok hooray! next one

and its like so full of whimsy

[echo bone]

easy as that

[shell sand]

ive seen fangames have more stress over if what theyre doing is good enough

[echo bone]

oh hey octillery

NOOOO

[shell sand]

read pins

[soft latch]

mb

[soft latch]

😭

[unkempt mirage]

innocent gamefreak employees logging onto twitter on october 12 2024

[echo bone]

[soft latch]

Anyways yeah this is like... a all time leak

[grand crown]

TERALEAK

[shell sand]

this is 20 years worth of information and work

this is the biggest heist ever

[warped ferry]

can confirm, as someone making a fakemon i have a tendency to put a fuckton of pressure on myself

[echo bone]

oh btw clay alst nigtt you said something of drill dozer figure

[grand crown]

bigger than the entire persona 5 franchise

[grizzled turret]

as the prophecy foretold

[shell sand]

Yeah like its so vindicating

Bro Just be Free

[soft latch]

i cannot get over hispanic skyla 😭

[warped ferry]

"but this thing doesn't fit the region what do i do" i say about the franchise that put an igloo armadillo in hawaii

[shell sand]

Do what you want

[echo bone]

must be the one from this ad right

[shell sand]

YES

THATS iT

i saw the photos myself

thats exactly it

[echo bone]

do you have the model sheets of The....

i need to see

[shell sand]

uhm

[echo bone]

actually i'll see if twitter has them

[unkempt mirage]

i love seeing all the beta pokemon designs its for sure my favorite part of these

[echo bone]

wait she was grinning the whole time????????

[shell sand]

its so

COOOL LOOKING

[echo bone]

i need it.

we didn't they sell this in mass production!!!

[shell sand]

HONTONI SUGOI DESU

[echo bone]

i'd have bought it.

[soft latch]

ngl they were cooking with those they're so sick

[echo bone]

(in 2006 when i was baby)

[torn ore]

The what...

[echo bone]

the drill dozer

[candid nebula]

Just saw Team Galactic's beta designs and naur, Saturn is unrecognizable 💀

[echo bone]

saturn got BUTCHERED

[unkempt mirage]

||like i got no idea what this guy is supposed to be but its sick! ||

[echo bone]

i do like mars' and jupiter's final designs more tho

[shell sand]

Thats Haxorus

[unkempt mirage]

insane haxorus

[candid nebula]

I kinda like Saturn's final design more

[echo bone]

baxcalibur if he didn't stink!!

fair

[soft latch]

he got like...less bulky i think ??

[shell sand]

he also used to be ||dark|| type

||Pure dark ||type

[unkempt mirage]

wildd

[soft latch]

ohhhh whaaat

[shell sand]

https://fixvx.com/Crownified/status/1845539419261927760

[surreal vault]

Wtf

[shell sand]

can we get a "guess that random ass track they put into the game files that is probably from somewhere/someone else"

[rough kelp]

red crest
brown body
fan-shaped tail

this is a turkey

[surreal vault]

That is not familiar to me at all

sounds like something from a stadium game

[shell sand]

ok so for context

[spice timber]

apparently someone found a shiny in the bw beta?

[shell sand]

theres been a few random songs that are like

mashups of micheal jackson and daft punk

in some of the games

for testing or fun purposes

so it ight not actually be for OR/AS

[west bramble]

who the fuck is up shiny hunting in the bw beta

[shell sand]

but the music is nonetheless there

|| https://x.com/Crownified/status/1845540174534524931 ||

Crown👑- I BELIEVE IN THE NINTENDO SWITCH 2 (@Crownified) on X

Better translated Character Reference Sheet for Skyla (Gen 5 Gym Leader)

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 7:00 PM

also

better translated

[harsh lion]

yea like this was in bw lol

[shell sand]

she was a mUSICIAN!?

[echo bone]

what the fuck.
this

is literally shipmeister's master from KH2

[echo bone]

SHINY????

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/shiny-moana-tamatoa-sparkle-sparkly-gif-16985274

[harsh lion]

is the ||Diglett|| thing actually real

[north fjord]

I think that was proven fake

[tranquil laurel]

No

[harsh lion]

PLEASE LET IT BE FAKE

bless

[warped ferry]

||imagine being so good at singing that it Solves Racism||

[opaque marsh]

||get fake||

[shell sand]

|| https://fixvx.com/Crownified/status/1845544809970168287 ||

this is so lonely sounding lol

[warped ferry]

same energy
https://youtu.be/imEI5yqfSYw?si=4Cv9Z_zU6GuvrutR

[shell sand]

they could have had NIGHT themes by just PITCH SHIFTING and TEMPOchanging

[echo bone]

the first one is a lone guy with a harmonica
2nd one is a mother 3 battle song

[echo bone]

i guess they found the seasonal songs excessive enough for the soundtrack

[shell sand]

im sure they can bloat it even Further.

[echo bone]

the video got uncanny at the end

[shell sand]

WAIT WAIt

WATI

WIAT

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-incrives-meme-meme-react-gif-25029710

[shell sand]

|| https://fixvx.com/Crownified/status/1845546002247479784 ||

[echo bone]

AKMNJKs

FRIENDS

AND THE BACKSPRITES ARE SO LARGE

[shell sand]

so they DID originally think about having like

the back sprites being bigger

but then they were like

"this is too much work and we could use the back sprites for more things if they were smaller and it would also save a ton of space"

[harsh lion]

@tropic pollen ||Iron fellow????||

[shell sand]

OH MY GOD.

IRON FELLOW IS REAL!?

[tropic pollen]

i saw this earlier its such a cute design

[shell sand]

has anyone sent this to jimothy cool

[echo bone]

what is iron fellow

[shell sand]

HOW ARE YOU REALLLLL

[unkempt mirage]

[echo bone]

this fucker looking like the awful pig monster in power rangers

[rough kelp]

oh boy...

[surreal vault]

what the

[rough kelp]

||omg pat rat hi||

[opaque marsh]

aww

[shell sand]

|| https://fixvx.com/vogold_/status/1845507494698774681 ||

im sorry what do you mean its pants

[echo bone]

pant

[tropic pollen]

tag

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[arctic bobcat]

i think their stance is still that its just pants-like fur

[shell sand]

|| https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/654620435656212480/1295109534586507314/image0.jpg?ex=670d743f&is=670c22bf&hm=c1f547816d80efd105ab0c272178c77eb434f4de78aec8b3be8d3de253833c8f&=&format=webp&width=944&height=671 ||

[stoic kindle]

||Ja!||

[arctic bobcat]

like they said something along the time the detective pikachu movie that even when the pokemon designs look like they're wearing clothes, they're all a part of their body
and that led to them scrapping a few pokemon because they had no idea how to make those clothes look like fur or flesh

[shell sand]

no it was Ja!

get it right

[harsh lion]

why are you white

[shell sand]

read pins

[tropic pollen]

@grizzled turret read pins

[grizzled turret]

I didn’t know there were even pins in this thread

Can’t see them on phone, sorry

[shell sand]

i doubt anyone would actually laugh though

[grizzled turret]

I would I suppose

[shell sand]

|| https://x.com/Crownified/status/1845549622661730673 ||

Crown👑- I BELIEVE IN THE NINTENDO SWITCH 2 (@Crownified) on X

Storyboard for a TCG commercial

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 7:38 PM

cyrus artwork for a tcg comemrcial

[restive silo]

You can see pins here by tapping the top banner, the gear icon, and then pins

[surreal vault]

Its been around
One day since this whole shabang started

[shell sand]

Revisions of the Watchog and Sawsbuck sprites

[tropic pollen]

||https://x.com/IncineroarBlaze/status/1845470852462137737 || ZA & Anime spoilers speculation

Blaze Incineroar (@IncineroarBlaze) on X

i just realized if Zeraora is in z-a & if it is important to the story, what if Zeraora is Ratatoskr (yggdrasil squirrel)

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 2:25 PM

[shell sand]

tbh it would make sense because that thing starts with ||Z and ends with A|| on all languages doesnt it

[tropic pollen]

||it did always feel weird in gen 7||

[surreal vault]

||We're gonna find Zeraora in the gen 6 beta aren't we....||

[velvet bobcat]

I feel like we're gonna find there every gen 9 mythical at this point

[torn ore]

ORAS is out apparently

[velvet bobcat]

Yes it's been some years already

[torn ore]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[shell sand]

|| https://x.com/Mootmonthly/status/1845515585976730067 ||

Moot /ムート (@Mootmonthly) on X

The Rayquaza concept art from the Pokemon leaks is crazyyy 🔥

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 5:22 PM

|| https://fixvx.com/Mootmonthly/status/1845469376259964942 ||

[stoic kindle]

||the urge to print these out and fold them into a proper box||

[spice timber]

apparently oras is out now?

[velvet bobcat]

Loving this leak honestly, it's really cool to see people finding so many cool things
Gamefreak is so silly for keeping this stuff hidden from us

[shell sand]

oras was released 7 years ago

[arctic bobcat]

guy who's been in a coma since 2014

[spice timber]

oras

leak

[velvet bobcat]

Hoenn confirmed

[spice timber]

files

[arctic bobcat]

i know but the wording was too vague to pass up the joke

[surreal vault]

Let's see that mega flygon

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[velvet bobcat]

Give me that mauvile lore with infinite energy

[spice timber]

ngl i said the same thing in a different server and got the same "oras came out in 2014" response

i didn't wanna relive that trauma

[arctic bobcat]

listen when you use vague ass wording then expect the same joke

[velvet bobcat]

Yea it's a low hanging fruit for a joke

[spice timber]

i wonder if the draconids were like

[velvet bobcat]

They were

[spice timber]

half-assed into existence

or actually fleshed out

[shell sand]

we need a good source first

[velvet bobcat]

I assume they had flesh yes

Bones too

[spice timber]

https://tenor.com/view/bowser-mario-strikers-rage-angry-mario-strikers-battle-league-gif-25797705

[shell sand]

|| https://fixvx.com/Crownified/status/1845555074694520955 ||

gen 5 again

[grizzled turret]

||This thing might be my least favorite pokemon I’m gonna be so fr. I just hate it so bad for reasons unexplainable ||

[shell sand]

i think the thing that surprises me hard

is like

not only are pokemon designs pokemon maps pokemon sprites

even the pokemon music

they just put wips in there

constantly

its destroying my perfectionist brain

[spice timber]

||i hate this pokemon so much, but it having an actual tangible origin story that isn't just "electric lucario" would make me like it way more||

[grizzled turret]

Probably as reference material if I had to guess

[shell sand]

i mean sure but its still really interesting

[grizzled turret]

||It has an origin in the first place???||

[echo bone]

oh my god the angles

[tropic pollen]

||a lot of modern mythicals dont||

[shell sand]

also sharp hands coffin

[grizzled turret]

||Legit thought it was like zarude where they just like. Didn’t ||

[shell sand]

they became silly slappy hands after

[grizzled turret]

Kinda like the other version tbh

[shell sand]

the music or the coffin

[grizzled turret]

Coffin

[echo bone]

me when i struggle to make hands (all the time!)

[shell sand]

|| https://fixvx.com/Crownified/status/1845555571228918265 ||

oh were getting into the meat of the 3D

[grizzled turret]

I think I love these.

[shell sand]

i wonder what the Fuck is this one meant to be

Oshawott Snivy ??? Audino Deerling

[echo bone]

chansey

[surreal vault]

||Impostor Ditto||

[cerulean bluff]

its actually me.

its perfect representation of my soul

[shell sand]

|| https://fixvx.com/CentroLeaks/status/1845544053158359067 ||

seems to be a tech demo visual for pitching/proposals for gen 5's visual style

[warped ferry]

||"Pokemon WB" so was white supposed to be the one listed first originally?||

[shell sand]

yeah thats how theyve been internally listed constantly

[cerulean bluff]

||i figure they changed it because of warner bros lol||

[echo bone]

||not the gross ass FRLG music!!!!||

still wild the backsprites weren't gonna be full body

hugh mongous

[torn ore]

Edit of the century

[cerulean bluff]

||hop off FRLG music||

[cerulean bluff]

lmaoooo 😭

[cerulean bluff]

oh wait i know what you mean now

what the fuck happened there

[surreal vault]

Isn't that ||Mew's theme||

||From Emerald||

[echo bone]

yeah but it's gross!

i hate frlg's music!

[shell sand]

?

if its real why dont u link it

[echo bone]

(it's an edit)

(of the century)

[arctic bobcat]

Pokemon Prepare to Die

[warped ferry]

(future game stuff) ||i just realized if mega zygarde is a thing does that mean it's gonna be using the 50% form or the complete form as the basis for its stats. because if it's the complete form uhhh that thing already has a bst of 708||

||mega rayquaza. Two||

[arctic bobcat]

we're cooking

[daring fern]

||Mega Zygarde is just Exodia in Pokemon form, you activate it and you auto-win the match||

[warped ferry]

||also manifesting for mega zeraora to be electric/fighting||

[grizzled turret]

https://x.com/stardaroi/status/1845309920591458717

⭐ delle !! ₊˚⊹ᡣ𐭩 (@stardaroi) on X

this is how i feel with everything going on rn

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 3:45 AM

[warped ferry]

||it already learns a shitton of fighting moves in gen 8||

[surreal vault]

Peakmon

[torn ore]

||It's insane because he's gonna be the first Pokemon with 700+ BST to gain a mega. And the 680 BST Megas become 780 so he might even surpass that a lil more lmfao. Unless only 10% and 50% can Mega Evolve||

[warped ferry]

||or maybe game freak decides to have mercy on us and doesn't let mega zygarde into gen 10, cus remember legends z-a is most likely a singleplayer only game||

[velvet bobcat]

Hey chat, can someone redirect me about those massive anime spoilers from a while ago

[torn ore]

Check pins

Heading to bed. Waking up to ORAS stuff gonna be fun lmfao

[velvet bobcat]

Yea I was asking cuz I realize pins don't show up in threads in mobile

[spice timber]

go to the thread's settings

the pins are in there

[velvet bobcat]

Oh thankie

[shell sand]

|| https://x.com/Crownified/status/1845562669375344773 ||

Crown👑- I BELIEVE IN THE NINTENDO SWITCH 2 (@Crownified) on X

Early 2007 build of SoulSilver

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 8:30 PM

[stoic kindle]

||Lugia looking like it's about to bleed hyper realistic blood and kill me||

[torn ore]

||Lugia.EXE||

[stoic kindle]

||lost silver if it was even more cliche||

[marble sand]

we're so back

[strange glade]

||2007???||

[tropic pollen]

actually really grateful that the leaker isnt leaking ZA or what there is of Gen 10

[tropic pollen]

it'd be-

[stoic kindle]

Oh

[tropic pollen]

100 GIGABYTES??

[stoic kindle]

Oh christ

How many of those are early models of the pokemon

[tropic pollen]

it'd be lame if we had nothing to be excited for for 800 days

[torn ore]

Hell they even said they didn't get all of XY

[stoic kindle]

Id had to assume a lot of those are early models given how they modeled all of the pokemon at the time

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/christopher-lloyd-1point21gigawatts-back-to-the-future-doc-gif-9470027

[torn ore]

XY is last because they're gonna sneak in some Z-A stuff in there

[tropic pollen]

prolly not but there might be a good handful of unused concepts that'll be explored in ZA

[marble sand]

Ok just got done scrolling through what I missed when I went sleepy (discord is such a pain in the ass when scrolling through old messages)

big ZA stuff ||mega zeraora is kinda crazy||

[spice timber]

this x1000

[tropic pollen]

i will say it IS nice to ||have it confirmed that there will be new mega evolutions||

[spice timber]

also more specifically, ||megas of gen 6+ mons||

[opaque marsh]

XY drop gonna be peak

[marble sand]

Wait wait hold on I just thought
Big ZA spoilers ||is it a coincidence they chose another Pokemon that has a z in its name to accompany zygarde with a mega||

[west bramble]

||and there's also and A in the name||

[terse agate]

has the pokemon company made an official statement about this yet

[west bramble]

||HOLY SHIT||

[terse agate]

how could they let this happen

[west bramble]

||ANORITH MEGA???||

[west bramble]

i think they have

it's in japanese only though

[marble sand]

They did post a company memo apologizing to their employees

[terse agate]

ah thanks

[torn ore]

???????????

[west bramble]

#1028079151091027978 message

[terse agate]

oh. sad.

[shrewd pulsar]

meowtactic#0 - #Leaks for Pokémon

Wait wait hold on I just thought
Big ZA spoilers ||is it a coincidence they chose another Pokemon that has a z in its name to accompany zygarde with a mega||

Quoted by cursedhere#0 • [272893411399434240] · Oct 13, 2024, 8:46 PM

[west bramble]

#1028079151091027978 message

[marble sand]

But no big Twitter announcement or anything

[shrewd pulsar]

cursedhere#0 - #Leaks for Pokémon

||and there's also and A in the name||

Quoted by cursedhere#0 • [963131927211171900] · Oct 13, 2024, 8:47 PM

[rough kelp]

pls thesaurize 100 gigabytes

[shrewd pulsar]

One hundred G

[rough kelp]

👍

[marble sand]

One hundred G

Something something undertale

[spice timber]

i wonder

if gen 8 and 9 leak, will we get the original toby fox instrumentals for the music he made

[proven bay]

What the hell?

I hope that one isn't leaked man

[terse agate]

tobias fox

[proven bay]

This Pokemon Presents is about Pyoro's execution day 2: Electric Boogaloo

[rough kelp]

oh they are leaking employee's personal datas now? I am out.

[cerulean bluff]

they do?

[rough kelp]

apparently they do

[spice timber]

didn't they already do that?

like when this shit all happened

[rough kelp]

we know those were compromised but don't know if they were leaked, right?

[marble sand]

I remember yakumono saying only the initial employee's company ID and photo were leaked but we've gotten other people saying there was more than that so I'm confused

[rough kelp]

either way I think I gonna stay out of this anyways. sealing this channel off from my vision 🙏

[cerulean bluff]

||https://vxtwitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1845568572917186765 ||

huh

[echo bone]

they were breached but nobody's sharing anything to do with those

[tropic pollen]

remember to tag

[cerulean bluff]

i mean i dont think theres like anything crazy but sure

[tropic pollen]

god

goddddddddd that first

picture alone

[spice timber]

this makes me so fucking angry

[tropic pollen]

makes me feel so sad

[cerulean bluff]

i hate pokemon fanbase

like im not the biggest fan of some of the gen 5 designs myself but man. theres better ways to express this .

[spice timber]

like

they backtracked that hard

[tropic pollen]

NO

NOOOOOOOOOO

[spice timber]

to the point

[tropic pollen]

THEY'RE TALKNG ABOUT MEGA EMBOAR HERE

ARRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHH

[cerulean bluff]

we couldve had peak

we couldve had peak...

[restive silo]

I love you Unova I hate fans

[spice timber]

where they ruined the entire fucking game

just because some angry ass people didn't like the ice cream pokemon and the garbage pokemon

[tropic pollen]

||"Yes. People will like dragon type Charizard. But im not sure they would like a rock type Emboar"||

[spice timber]

if this doesn't prove that they care about perception nothing will

[tropic pollen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1115840264909631598/1148438566926549013/attachment.gif

[harsh lion]

U have no idea bro

[warped ferry]

i always had a sneaking suspicion that gen 6 was them backpedaling on gen 5's experimentalness

[echo bone]

||WE WERE GONNNA HAVE A ROCK TYPE EMBOAR!???||

[tropic pollen]

what the hell is ||Basharmo||

[warped ferry]

of all the generations gen 6 feels the most ashamed of itself

[echo bone]

blaziken

[tropic pollen]

ah makes sense

[warped ferry]

||maybe it's better we didn't because fire/rock is a horrible typing and mega emboar deserves better||

[echo bone]

||mega emboar got nothing!||

||so it's not better!||

[tropic pollen]

||Masuda: "hey can i still make Tyrantrum?"||

[warped ferry]

||"ah yes let me make my pokemon stronger by giving it 2 quad weaknesses!"||

[tropic pollen]

this makes so much sense, the ||Kalos fossils were first designed for bw2!!!!!!!||

[cerulean bluff]

them literally giving you gen 1 starters in XY 😭

[echo bone]

||nerd talk, i like revisioned designs no matter the typings||

[spice timber]

can we kill the 2010 pokemon fanbase

[proven bay]

Oh better question than the ||beta Cynthia|| how was the conceptualization process for the ||Hex Maniac design in XY||

[warped ferry]

||CHARIZARD GETTING TWO MEGAS. BLAZIKEN GETTING ITS MEGA BEFORE THE OTHER GEN 3 STARTERS||

[cerulean bluff]

can we just kill pokemon fanbase period

[runic prawn]

holy shit we all had a feeling this was the case but seeing this confirmed fucking sucks I hate pokémon fans

[spice timber]

they sound like

[cerulean bluff]

||wait. i didnt even realize the latter part. the fuck||

[spice timber]

ashamed

[echo bone]

but to be honest i get it
i remember the vast majority of .. not just the fanbase but like casual fans didn't really care that pokemon got rebooted

[spice timber]

to be doing that

[warped ferry]

||i'm glad we're past this given how indigo disk is one big gen 5 love letter||

[echo bone]

so i can understand them backpedaling on it

[cerulean bluff]

i mean its understandable

were not really dogpiling on game freak

we dogpile on the fanbase lol

maybe they overdid it

but its understandable why

backlash was severe

[surreal vault]

NOO.....

[tropic pollen]

I hope that in the 12 years following Game Freak has learned to listen to the right voices of the current relevant consumerbase rather than those who just

complain

[warped ferry]

||manifesting tepig as one of the starters for legends z-a||

[echo bone]

tbh even people who only watched the tv show (a huge side) didn't care much for BW's mons or designs
and honestly it was a hard sell all around

[tropic pollen]

like look at gen 5 now, its very popular in the west

[spice timber]

gen 5 was appreciated a lot in post

[runic prawn]

https://tenor.com/view/this-fucking-sucks-crying-girl-tears-of-joy-clapping-danny-devito-gif-12766761978490409957

[echo bone]

as a diehard fan i appreciate gen 5 a lot but i do agree with the criticisms from the fanbase

[harsh lion]

yeah it definitely didnt help that

the anime

was . well it was the bw anime lol

[spice timber]

gen 5 criticisms are valid

but it was so bad that they backpedaled in the other direction

WAAAAAY too hard

[warped ferry]

that happens with every fandom ever

[echo bone]

the anime lost the casual fans too and it was when pokemon stopped being cool to a general audience

[cerulean bluff]

its mainly because gen 5 anime sucked

[tropic pollen]

||"but we got a perfect score in famitsu"|| breaks my heart you have no idea

[spice timber]

gen 5 shoulda been a mix of old and new, with an emphasis on new

[cerulean bluff]

but its not really game freak's fault lol

[runic prawn]

YEAH I AM SCREAMING AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[echo bone]

smh famitsu always inflates its scores

[warped ferry]

something comes out that's different, old fans hate it, then the young fans of the time grow up and shift the common consensus

[proven bay]

||https://fixupx.com/centroleaks/status/1845290614369182197/photo/3 ||
||Bro thinks he is a Past Paradox MissingNo||

[spice timber]

can we have this back

pretty please

[cerulean bluff]

i mean nowadays unova fans can be very annoying

[tropic pollen]

and a big part of the reason why the bw anime sucked was because of external factors that were out of anyones control

[cerulean bluff]

but gen 5 didnt deserve the backlash it got

[runic prawn]

it breaks my heart in particular since I've been a gen 5 defender ever since its release

[cerulean bluff]

part of it yeah but some of the choices were poor from the start

no matter what you say but if you choose to bring back ash why dumb him down for no other reason than "soft reboot"

[warped ferry]

tho do keep in min gen 5 haters also got memed on a lot back in the day

[cerulean bluff]

might as well make a new character at that point

[marble sand]

At least all the recent gen 5 love guarantees we'll get more love for it in the future - I suppose we already have with blueberry academy

[echo bone]

yeah, but regardless of those factors they still ended up damaging the brand to casual audiences

[cerulean bluff]

it just alieanates long time viewers

[tropic pollen]

true

[cerulean bluff]

i wasnt even really a longtime viewer at the time

[runic prawn]

yeah I remember that a lot LOL

[cerulean bluff]

i was into pokemon for a year

and was still miffed

[echo bone]

i don't think XY got ruined due to presenting more classic mons in the forefront anyways

[surreal vault]

We need a meme from that time

[spice timber]

gen 5 love and sv love (minus the bugs) i feel is a good sign for the future

like people liked sv outside of the performance

[warped ferry]

lemme try n find one that's Truly authentic

[tropic pollen]

define "back in the day" cuz i didnt see things like these pop up until like gen 7 at most

ur using a wojack, thats from 2021 at least

[velvet bobcat]

those dev talks really are making me understand gamefreak more

[runic prawn]

really? I remember seeing some around gen 5 time

oh fair maybe not that one specifically

[warped ferry]

i only realized that after i clicked send

[echo bone]

unlike johto it still bothers to have its key pokemon be accessible in the early game portions with a huge variety
and as a giant leap into 3d i think it made sense to also make sure to include a lot of classic ones since they were gonna feel brand new in this environment regardless

[warped ferry]

i still like johto but i've only ever played the remakes + i'm a sucker for rural areas in games

[runic prawn]

to be fair it was also around gen 5 time I stopped interacting with the pokémon fandom directly

[echo bone]

also yeah these didn't pop until like
idk 2015 or 2016 at the earliest

[cerulean bluff]

to me gen 7 was the best compromise between gen 5 approach and what fans clamored for. it still had old mons and familiar references and characters

but it also had a lot of new ideas and fresh presentation

sadly people dogpiled gen 7 anyway

[tropic pollen]

not really tbh

[cerulean bluff]

yes really

[runic prawn]

they did

[cerulean bluff]

before switch came around i remember seeing a lot of hate

[tropic pollen]

Gen 7 was very well praised on release tho

[echo bone]

yeah they did

(i did!)

[spice timber]

everyone hates new pokemon games

[tropic pollen]

yes but thats different

[spice timber]

that's just the style

[cerulean bluff]

idk if it is

[warped ferry]

gen 1 pandering /neg vs gen 1 pandering /pos

[harsh lion]

i think what really happened with gen 7

is just

i think ppl liked sun and moon generally

[tropic pollen]

i do get what you're talking about but its messy

[echo bone]

gen 7 is when i dropped pokemon because that stupid rival couldn't stop shutting up about the macarons/malasadas or whatever lol

[harsh lion]

but u cant convince me that usum wasnt like

[cerulean bluff]

damn

kirb-star is washed

[runic prawn]

I WON'T TOLERATE HAU HATE

[cerulean bluff]

hau is goat sorry i dont make the rules

[warped ferry]

hau is the goodest boy

[surreal vault]

Gotta remember the pokemon Stars Copium

[proven bay]

HOP OFF HAU WTF MAN

[harsh lion]

The Downfall Of Public Perception Of Pokémon (exaggerated but im sure you get what i mean)

[tropic pollen]

what happened was that people bought into a misguided belief that they would be getting a switch game in the first year of the console's lifespan and dogpiled USUM when it was revealed

[surreal vault]

TV CONSOLE MAINLINE GAME WHEN!!!!!

[tropic pollen]

but Sun and Moon? people liked that one

[runic prawn]

oh right

pokémon stars....

long live pokémon stars

[tranquil laurel]

It’s possible things are different based off that other meeting about ||the choice to end ash’s story and them acknowledging that some people will be upset inevitably citing dexit||

[tropic pollen]

to this day there are people who believe USUM are useless and bad video games

[cerulean bluff]

naw there was hate on the base games too. stuff like "oh too many cutscenes!, lilie/hau is an annoying character!"

i remember all this

[runic prawn]

yeah

[warped ferry]

one day i'll actually play usum (i don't like the idea of lusamine's villain role being downplayed)

[echo bone]

yeah
i dropped the game because i didn't feel it was worth my time back then with how linear it got

i appreciate the cinematics now but i enjoyed XY and ORAs giving me room to breathe to do my own things

[runic prawn]

wait people hated lillie? I thought it was just hau

[tranquil laurel]

But god

[runic prawn]

at least from what I remember

[cerulean bluff]

no they hated lilie too

[marble sand]

For me I feel e3 2019 was when shit hit the fan. I know it's the obvious event people point to but it really was an entirely different atmosphere before then. I think people were just kinda eh on usum but I didn't see a lot of strong hate toward it

[cerulean bluff]

at least i saw some hate

[runic prawn]

dang

[tranquil laurel]

That excerpt is dire

[cerulean bluff]

hau's hate was more widespread

[warped ferry]

lillie is one of the best characters in the series lmao

[harsh lion]

S&M was very well regarded on release I believe but then people hated USUM for existing even though its objectively the best game ever made and then they released LGPE and SWSH so now every pokemon game made after 2012 is bad

[runic prawn]

lillie did nothing wrong she had an abusive mother

[tropic pollen]

maybe i just didnt pay that much attention to those voices at the time, i just recalled them not being as loud about it until years later down the line

[cerulean bluff]

lillie is amazing

[cerulean bluff]

thats fair

[tropic pollen]

this is how i remember it too

[spice timber]

oh god

oh god no

the swsh dev talks are gonna be horrible to read

[cerulean bluff]

gen 7 is what restored my interest in the series that was dwindling because of xy's anime disasterous pokemon league conclusion

and initial weird reveal of sun and moon anime

[tranquil laurel]

Base SM got hate initially for like

Not having post game modes

[harsh lion]

yeah swsh was what actually really got everyone like ~this~ (And i think its fair to a certain extent.) but USUM is where it began

[cerulean bluff]

but games genuinely restored my fanboyism for the series for a bit

until switch games happened but oh well

[tranquil laurel]

And having too many cutscenes

[cerulean bluff]

lets hope legends z-a will pull me back

[echo bone]

also the artstyle change in gen 7 also drew me away from the series lol

[surreal vault]

[harsh lion]

I think the only issue people had with SM generally was the lack of postgame yeah

[warped ferry]

you think we'll get to see internal logs of the team realizing sv aren't done and they have to release them Now

[echo bone]

since it was so close to that bad finale in the xy anime

[cerulean bluff]

yeah that was

bad

[grand crown]

please god itd be so fucking funny

[runic prawn]

oh right SM also had the weird thing of too many info before release

so when its demo got datamined I remember people going "wait that's it for new mons?"

it wasn't that it didn't have many new mons, but most of them had already been revealed officially lol

[cerulean bluff]

felt like the rug was pulled from underneath you

[harsh lion]

which was a trend that started in XY and continues to this day (DLC salvages it in its own wicked way but you know its still wicked)

[cerulean bluff]

after so much hype was built

[warped ferry]

i will say it was hype as fuck to see so many mon reveals as a kid

[runic prawn]

same

[echo bone]

gen 5 or gen 7 animes really can damage a brand
regardless of the quality (as I enjoy those two a lot more now)

[warped ferry]

it was part of my daily routine to come home from school and check the pokemon youtube channel

[tropic pollen]

June 11th 2019 incident

[surreal vault]

Ultra Beast reveal was crZyyyy

[cerulean bluff]

like this was genuinely a bad move and i hope whatever executive vouched for it got the taste of their medicine after infamous backlash

[harsh lion]

Wingull into dexit true combo

[cerulean bluff]

like that was so infamous that xy anime went from fanbase's darling to public enemy number one overnight

its crazy

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-sadness-yoda-master-gif-4813437

[marble sand]

That and being slow probably. But I get so confused when ppl say the story is bad like bro this game undeniably had the best story up to this point in the series and I'm including bw in that statement

[runic prawn]

wait dexit was already 5 years ago????

fuck

[echo bone]

smh they could have avoided the backlash by simply discarding ash in 2010 or in 2016..........................

[tropic pollen]

yeap

[harsh lion]

Dexit was 5 years ago, feel old yet?

[warped ferry]

i don't mind the gen 7 artstyle since it fit the tone of the season but i think the newer seasons execute the whole "simplified for better animation" thing much better

[cerulean bluff]

the way i remember reading old forum posts as a kid of when diamond and pearl league was still airing and people were like "yeah ash will definitely win and be retired after this"

you poor, poor fools

[harsh lion]

loses against a guy using darkrai and latios
fucking dies

[echo bone]

:(

[proven bay]

Five years since the massive collapse of the Pokemon fanbase

[surreal vault]

Dexit discourse changed a mf

[warped ferry]

also the gen 7 anime has a lot of really REALLY good episodes

[cerulean bluff]

i love gen 7

anime

and it actually gives ash a satisfying win

[stoic kindle]

They should of killed ash on screen by electrocution
Making him....
Ashes

[arctic bobcat]

i remember watching the first episode of BW anime and being disappointed in realizing it was a reset

[warped ferry]

stoutland

[echo bone]

hey if brock got to retire without scoring then ash should have retired too.....................

[grand crown]

i might be the only person here who liked BDSP because i played Diamond and never actually owned Platinum and as such didnt care about missing things

[terse agate]

dang one of the internal documents is them making fun of pokemon fans saying "they'll buy anything we make" lol

[proven bay]

I remember pinging James Turner about the Guzzlord noises lol, I forgot what he said but I do think he's intrigued

[echo bone]

i'm glad ash got retired now but the time for a reboot was much earlier lol

[runic prawn]

don't worry I am also the exact same

[cerulean bluff]

ash got retired now but arguably the way he got retired is underwhelming now

[echo bone]

smh his dad didn't even show up!

[cerulean bluff]

i guess there wasnt really a great way to do it after so long

who cares about his dad

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/true-point-hes-got-a-point-gif-no-no-hes-got-a-point-meme-true-meme-gif-25315797

[echo bone]

i did!

[cerulean bluff]

i wanted him to have proper showdown with giovanni

[tropic pollen]

anyway i think they've done fine enough with a limited roster in recent times but I would be lying if i said that "Dexit" isn't noticable anymore

[harsh lion]

pikachu didnt even evolve :/

[cerulean bluff]

this is what i wanted since s1

[grand crown]

🤝

[proven bay]

(yeah he designed Guzzlord and the Japanese version of the episodes with that have some pretty bizarre screams lol)

[runic prawn]

dexit would happen at some point

[marble sand]

I wanna see this one lol

[runic prawn]

the thing is that no one wanted to think about it

[stoic kindle]

His dad should of been a background character that appeared like... Once

[runic prawn]

and then it happened

[harsh lion]

honestly besides the obvious losers (Elemental monkeys) ive just gotten used to it

[warped ferry]

i only ever notice dexit when The One To Two Mons I Like aren't in the video game (ferrothorn )

[harsh lion]

Like i guess legends arceus could still have existed without bdsp cutting 400 pokemon but you know

[echo bone]

i'm a silver (pokemon chronicles) believer do not make fun of me.

[tropic pollen]

its less about the few who havent been on the switch yet and more about leaving holes in my ingame teams x(

[stoic kindle]

What the fuck does that mean

[echo bone]

i don't notice dexit myself (hasn't played a single switch game)

[harsh lion]

i notice dexit (i miss melmetal)

[marble sand]

||Simisear coulda been FAT we were robbed of peak monkeys (I don't think it would have saved them)||

[warped ferry]

i still have no idea why they never brought back the tapus in sv, there are four sun setters for the past paradox mons and only two electric terrain setters for the future mons

[proven bay]

Tbh Dexit doesn't matter much to me as I barely use trading between gens a lot, even I didn't bring my Gen7 team

[echo bone]

it would have saved them, they look too much alike

[grand crown]

me who doesnt care about dexit

[cerulean bluff]

oh yeah also the way they "wrote off" team rocket quartet is also honestly very lame. i dont really care for this "they will chase ash until the end of time" thing, i feel like gen 7 anime in particular fleshed them out so much outside of their team rocket activies that they deserved to just retire and be normal civilians at this point.

[tropic pollen]

Tapu Curchin is there

[echo bone]

for me to notice dexit they'd have to make the games wholly good again for me to bother purchasing them

[cerulean bluff]

and now we probs wont even see them again, at least until they wouldnt inevitably cash in on the original anime nostalgia

which will happen and probably sooner than we think

[spice timber]

gen 7 anime is really good and i feel like the only reason people didn't like it was because it broke the formula

[cerulean bluff]

no people didnt like it because the way original promos were done art-style looked very unflattering

also due to general bad taste in people's mouth left after XY finale

[warped ferry]

also yea tapu koko still needs a good electric type move, i'm sick of having to run t-bolt on a physical attacker mon because none of these guys have play rough and game freak was allergic to strong, widely distributed physical electric moves for nearly 15 years before we finally got Something w/ supercell slam

[bright pine]

What's funny about Dexit at this point is that the number of pokemon unavailable in any switch game is like

[echo bone]

but yeah maybe gen 5's reception wouldn't have been so abysmal had they had better synergy or quality control with the anime's writing

mfw you can pinpoint the exact time when TPC starts giving and returning to gen 1 nostalgia (charizard's return)

[bright pine]

Less than 20

[spice timber]

apparently legends z-a is in a completable state rn and still has like half a year before it's speculated to come out, so that game might be cooking

[proven bay]

Also ping me if the leaks have any information on Pokemon Magikarp Jump, because I'm curious as to how many Magikarp patterns they conceptualized

[harsh lion]

i think its okay for mixed attackers to exist

[grand crown]

did the leaker take a break or are we waiting for them to figure out how to get the XY portion out

[marble sand]

https://tenor.com/view/i-want-every-gun-we-have-to-fire-on-that-man-morgan-freeman-false-true-kylo-ren-gif-17394613606877598060

[cerulean bluff]

i remember the fanbase in my country was making fun of that move so HARD and honestly it was deserved

this show that dumbed down ash so much was now pretending all previous seasons of the anime happened still?

are you serious?

how much disbelief should i suspend

[echo bone]

it will depend if the ground textures actually look good or if the region looks half assed

i pray it has pretty graphics

i miss pretty graphics

[cerulean bluff]

i mean isnt z-a only takes place within one big city

[grand crown]

Nintendo Switch

[cerulean bluff]

probably harder to fuck that up than a whole chunk of land

[stoic kindle]

I feel like if your show dumbed down your main character so much that people say it was meant to be a soft reboot
Maybe you shouldn't do that

[echo bone]

botw looks pretty!!!!!!!!!

[cerulean bluff]

it has pretty looking games

your point being?

most of switch games look pretty

[grand crown]

yeah true XC3 exists

[cerulean bluff]

most ugly games are just lazy ports

or pokemon games

who cares about XC3

[tropic pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/820048057248514089/1290617007057797191/500true.gif

[cerulean bluff]

kirby and the forgotten land 😎

[echo bone]

or games when the loading screen is completely black (you see your reflection)

[grand crown]

[echo bone]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-slaps-old-man-sonic-slaps-old-man-gif-13338475

[cerulean bluff]

my reflection is actually very handsome

so its very skill issue on your point

[grand crown]

i retract my point

[bright pine]

I think it's neat to have full confirmation that the Kanto pandering was a response to gen 5 backlash

[cerulean bluff]

i mean it was pretty obvious

but its nice to see it acknowledged

[spice timber]

it's hard to watch

because they clearly didn't wanna do it like that

[harsh lion]

I actually want to know if theres any comments about people liking gen 5 years down the line

[echo bone]

i think they did a good move in the end still
they should have realized the children playing the game weren't ready for that level of commitment to a reboot

[marble sand]

The fact they specified 4 specific Pokemon ||lucario, absol, blaziken, charizard|| that they knew would be well received is so fascinating. Like you could already infer that's why they were chosen but it's still interesting

[spice timber]

i have to imagine we'll see that in the gen 9 docs?

[harsh lion]

Like with galar having darmanitan and stunfisk and then sv adding blueberry academy yk

[grand crown]

hang on lemme go check the edit history on TCRF

[echo bone]

i was like 11 when it happened and hated what they made the new gen into lol

[grand crown]

gonna see how wild it is

[echo bone]

i was already falling off a bit from sinnoh's designs but the league kept me entertained

[cerulean bluff]

i do think that maybe disregarding ALL old pokemon was a bit of a hard pill to swallow

i appreciate the audacity of this move

[spice timber]

disregarding all old mons was what probably killed it

[cerulean bluff]

but it wasnt the smartest in hindsight