Leaks for Pokémon

[tropic pollen]

||Really interesting, i wonder if the entralink are placed on the ruins of an ancient Unova castle then||

[shell sand]

sometimes you can straight up design a region thats a straight line and still have it be fun

-Gen 5

[quaint rune]

uhhh

galar

[shell sand]

btw

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Unity_Tower

this is the United Nations building

[spice remnant]

Lmfao

Literally United Tower in JP

[quaint rune]

was blueberry academy even vaguely mentioned or referenced in the original black and white

[spice remnant]

no

[shell sand]

ive never fucking seen this

[quaint rune]

nor b2w2?

huge ass thing to add in randomly like 12 years later

[spice remnant]

is it

"this place has a school"

[final apex]

ig, but the terrarium is unique

[quaint rune]

i guess the logical explanatiojn is that the school was not there when bw and b2w2 took place

[spice remnant]

Also blueberry academy is new

We're not told how new and we don't know how far after Unova games SV is but like
It's a new academy

[quaint rune]

im pretty sure pokemon gmes are in real time

in all the pokemon games the protagonist has the latest nintendo console in their room

[rose junco]

they aren't (or at least weren't)

[spice remnant]

Pokemon is very much not real time

[rose junco]

yeah

[quaint rune]

well real year

but not real time

[spice remnant]

No

We just saw in this leak that ||RSE was planned to take place like 7 place before RG for example||

[shell sand]

I present

beeyem

[spice remnant]

Fuck ass

[tropic pollen]

MY BOY

[slow orchid]

Big ass forehead why you forehead so big

[tropic pollen]

HE’S DOING THE “NO BITCHES” STARE

MEGAMIND LOOKING ASS

[shell sand]

eel

[quaint rune]

is there anytihng about pelipper

[slow orchid]

EEL!!!

[shell sand]

earlier

[rose junco]

wonder how long it'll be until early Keldeo is posted, if it exists

[shell sand]

theres apparently... a pseudo magazine page of Gamefreak employees and what happened in their office

[quaint rune]

💀 im gonna jump off a bridge

[shell sand]

as is japanese office tradition, theres an article about gunpla

[rose junco]

yeah, that was mentioned earlier
neat to know more about what's in it though

[quaint rune]

what about honchkrow/murkrow

[shell sand]

i can send it

IM SORRY BUT THIS ISNT LANDORS

THIS IS CONCKLE DURR

[rose junco]

LOL

[quaint rune]

whats landorus then

[shell sand]

HE'S THEORIZED TO BE A JACK HAMMER INSTEAD OF A CONCK CREATE

[silver shore]

Lol

[shell sand]

official nitnendo documentation of flash carts || https://i.4cdn.org/vp/1728809413594902.png ||

[rose junco]

guessing they documented these for anti-piracy reasons? since some of the Pokemon games do have anti-piracy measures

[tropic pollen]

My guess is that yea

[glass lagoon]

Did yall see ||Toilet Rotom||

[rose junco]

yes

[spice remnant]

the jin

[tropic pollen]

The Djin

[spice remnant]

Stupid horse did not change

[tropic pollen]

strong design tbh

[glass lagoon]

Autistic creature

[spice remnant]

Beta pokemon 384 (Rayquaza in final) named ||スイバ Suiba||

[tropic pollen]

oo

[spice remnant]

Pokemon 385 (Jirachi in final) that we saw earlier is named ||ウーロン Uuron||

||The ron part could be like long considering its appearance||

[arctic bobcat]

||so pronounced similar to Oolong?||

[spice remnant]

||In fact uuron is just directly oolong in JP actually||

[tropic pollen]

||interesting how almost Lugia-esque it is||

[spice remnant]

||Could just be that they beta-named it Oolong to come up with a better name later idk||

||スイバ Suiba is also the name of Sorrel (a plant)||

[rose junco]

got the anime stuff, have a Burmy (not best pic, was originally a PDF)

anything y'all want

[tropic pollen]

oh actually

do you have the original Black and White anime refs that leaked 14 years ago

that showed Iris, Cilan, Dewott and Servine

[rose junco]

I'll check in a sec

the funny Darkrai legs

and the hair going in too

[glass lagoon]

How tf did this happen
How did they manage to let this much stuff leak

[rose junco]

oh the Mecha Tyranitar sheet was part of the anime stuff btw

[rose junco]

there's not much trainer stuff in there for BW unfortunately
have this size chart though

[grand crown]

admin at gamefreak got phished

[tropic pollen]

thats very close to the one

[rose junco]

oh interesting

[arctic bobcat]

who the hell is that guy

[torn ore]

I saw BW Cynthia

[arctic bobcat]

why is there random generic guy on the right

[rose junco]

yeah it's in there

[arctic bobcat]

is he some movie exclusive character or something

[torn ore]

Anything on Anthea and Concordia

[slow orchid]

Assuming just some basic character as a reference point for like background characters or something idk though

[rose junco]

btw for some reason most of the BW anime stuff is JPGs despite the DP ones being PDFs
consistency

[tropic pollen]

there was an umbreon in episode 5 of the BW anime i think

[torn ore]

Iirc twas just a flashback or something since Meowth was disguising as one

[rose junco]

Musharna staring into your soul

[tropic pollen]

i think it was ash thinking Tepig covered in soot was an umbreon

cuz it was so malnourished

i have hired this tapir to stare at you

[rose junco]

for BW ones, there's lot of sets of sheets which are unshaded vs shaded variations btw

[bright pine]

Is there anything of BW1 Ghetsis design, since I know his episodes got scrapped

[rose junco]

again, barely any trainers

it's mostly just Pokemon for BW for some reason

[cerulean bluff]

sad

maybe they're tucked away somewhere else lol

[grand crown]

theres an entire terabyte of data here, surely we’ll stumble across stuff we haven’t seen it

[rose junco]

melted Vanillite and Vanillish (Vanilluxe's 'melted' form isn't shown in its sheet)

[torn ore]

Leaker stopped for now right?

[rose junco]

yeah, still looking through these GBs

there's color sheets for up to near end of gen 4 too (really late gen 4 sheets like Arceus seem incomplete?)
again, not best picture because PDF

truly accurate depiction of Arceus, guys

[torn ore]

Tomorrow might be the day of Gen 6 and 7 if they return

[rose junco]

oh also the red squiggly lines under the names is just the pdf editor/viewer I'm using being a bitch and considering them misspelled btw

[cerulean bluff]

WHAT IS THIS OUTFIT LMAO

[tropic pollen]

for the anime

[rose junco]

right outfit was basically used in the anime btw

yeah

[cerulean bluff]

yeah i meant on the left

i remember the right one

[rose junco]

oh btw movie stuff is in here as well

[grand crown]

acoustic man

[rose junco]

includes stuff like movie 4 'evil Celebi'

also includes stuff like the Lucario movie armored Pokemon designs

[grand crown]

would there BDSP stuff in here or would all of that still be with the respective company that developed it

[cerulean bluff]

leaker didnt confirm bdsp stuff

unless its in gen 4 folder (doubtful)

[torn ore]

Anything Gen 6 and above would have to be tomorrow, shall the leaker return

Unless they're still uploading?

[daring fern]

Man

If i was in the shoes of the person leaking all of this, i would be having so many damn panic attacks

[rose junco]

why is this Lugia sheet so cute

[cerulean bluff]

awwww

[arctic bobcat]

why is he doing the armfolds

like mario

or sonic

[cerulean bluff]

i mean lugia to begin with was designed for anime and was planned as "parental pokemon"

[arctic bobcat]

or anyone who folds arms

[cerulean bluff]

so i guess maybe why its cute

[cerulean bluff]

i think people who leak this sort of stuff either know how to hide themselves or have nothing to lose

or both

[tropic pollen]

https://x.com/CentroLeaks/status/1845403469923918113

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks) on X

"The Great Detective Pikachu", a sequel to the Detective Pikachu movie, has been in development since 2021.

Originally planned for release in 2024, it's unclear if it was just delayed or cancelled.

The COMPLETE PLOT is in the leak.

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 9:57 AM

[cerulean bluff]

jesus christ

[daring fern]

Yeah no

[cerulean bluff]

im not gonna look in case its gonna come out

[daring fern]

Whoever is doing this is probably going to see a fucking life sentence

[rose junco]

egg

[daring fern]

knowing how the company is like

[rose junco]

oh dang

[cerulean bluff]

if they get caught

do we know who was responsible for 2020 gigaleak

dont think so

[daring fern]

yeah I guess that's fair

[rose junco]

I see Kecleon is grouped with the gen 2 stuff lol (at the end)

[cerulean bluff]

i remember rumors that he was a gen 2 pokemon at one point

[daring fern]

i guess life sentence would probably be too disproportionate anyways, at least over a media franchise and not like japanese government shit

...you think there's any chance we get the missing gen 1 front sprites from this

[daring fern]

oh god the fucking character documents

we actually have pretty-much canon ages for characters from the ones that have been shown so far

[cerulean bluff]

the leaker havent mentioned having stuff related to gen 1-2 but like... there's 1 terabyte worth of stuff so you never know lol

[daring fern]

i honestly really hope so

just for that final closure on the "pokegods" of backyard urban legend lore

[cerulean bluff]

i really just want to see raichu's evolution design 🙃

[marble sand]

found out this might be a mistranslation which bums me out 😭 apparently it just calls him introverted and close minded

[daring fern]

SAME though

pichu is cute but i want to live in the timeline where pikachu evolves into a thunder god rat

[cerulean bluff]

yeah but tbh i think its obvious that game freak is aware of neurodivergency as a concept

[cerulean bluff]

honestly never liked pichu much. because i kinda find the way they retconned him into existence very stupid

"oh we just NEVER tried to breed pikachu before to see if there's an earlier evolution stage than that!"

[daring fern]

i honestly wonder how different things would be with gorochu around

[cerulean bluff]

i wanna live in gorochu timeline

[rose junco]

it feels so weird seeing Mewtwo's mouth open like this lmao

especially that top right one

[cerulean bluff]

maybe anime would push less narratives about how evolving into raichu is bad actually

(i really like raichu :( )

[daring fern]

part of me thinks that they would've made pikachu evolve in the anime if he had a three-stage evo line from the beginning

[cerulean bluff]

i doubt it since some starters just stayed in their first stage forever

and since pikachu is a mascot he'd be no exception

[daring fern]

yeah that's pretty much a crapshoot

for every Charizard and Infernape, there's a Piplup and an Oshawott

[tropic pollen]

Disagree, most of these design documents do not match the final product, much how beta sprites don't match their final designs. Most of these are likely from earlier/initial ideas and were then later refined

TL;DR i do not believe Elesa is meant to be 15

[cerulean bluff]

they do give us some idea on some of the characters

[tropic pollen]

just because we saw Masudas "i got this new anime plot" document leaked

[cerulean bluff]

like we can finally dispel the ambigiuty of may's age

so some weird people can go to hell once and for all

[marble sand]

I'm already seeing ppl say "this new lore bible CHANGES the lore" like man it isn't changing anything it's just the concept they were working with back then. It's cool as shit don't get me wrong! But like it shouldn't really redefine how we view the lore

[daring fern]

eh I guess

people tend to ignore shit all the time, I imagine they kept a lot of the age stuff internal for a reason

though I think it's reasonable to assume all the player characters and main rivals are children even without this stuff

[cerulean bluff]

i mean the deeper lore of the series was never really that much of a focus

[rough kelp]

"originally, cynthia was gonna DIE!" "oh so it's canon that cynthia will die" kinda logic lol

[tropic pollen]

if i start seeing people put Metagross next to the Eon duo im throwing hands

[cerulean bluff]

i do think the way some people react to these leaks is very goofy

[velvet bobcat]

your mean the eon trio

[cerulean bluff]

OMG THESE DESIGNS ARE NOT FAMILY FRIENDLY!!! (designs in question are just mildly creepy looking which isnt even new for pokemon as a franchise)

[daring fern]

that cacturne was a little too far tbh

[velvet bobcat]

Nah those gen 3 designs are fucked up bruh

[daring fern]

scarecrow cactus is just better

[cerulean bluff]

nah i do prefer the final design

but like cmon guys

[marble sand]

I do think the way it groups ||dragonite tyranitar and gyarados together as parallels to rayquaza groudon and kyogre|| is pretty sick at least

[cerulean bluff]

wait thats peak actually

[velvet bobcat]

It's clear that whoever made that gen 3 art had a VERY different idea of what the game would look like

[cerulean bluff]

i wonder who even did it

do they still work for game freak

[daring fern]

wasn't gen 3 proposed as a soft reboot at some point or am I misremembering facts

[cerulean bluff]

gen 3 was meant to be soft-reboot so maybe they toyed with the idea of making the game slightly darker for older audience that grew up with gen1-2

[rough kelp]

whoever did it they better start running lol. nintendo is not gonna let them slide

[velvet bobcat]

It's so funny how compared to the sprites, it's such a 180° turn

[cerulean bluff]

im not talking about the leak

im talking about gen 3 concept art artist

[rough kelp]

oh

nvm i misread, dummy

[cerulean bluff]

i dont think whoever did the leak works for nintendo or game freak

[marble sand]

I honestly get the impression the gen 3 art was just for fun or to push boundaries of what they can do for concept art. Kinda like that epic mickey concept art - designed with full knowledge the final product wouldn't resemble it

[cerulean bluff]

yeah but thats the thing japan has different standards for this sort of thing so i dont feel like they would have to do it?

and gen 3 as a whole doesnt have this kind of tone

[rough kelp]

do we have a list of designers for pokémon in gen 3?

[daring fern]

i'd say that general idea for 3 is still a bit present in the designs, a lot of the 3 mons have that "new y2k attitude" aspect compared to 1 and 2

[rough kelp]

like in the credit?

[tropic pollen]

its interesting from the perspective of a franchise that's only existed for 3 generations but it Would Not Work today at all

[cerulean bluff]

like gen 3 is pretty lighthearted all things considered

its starting with gen 4 they started to push some darker themes and locations

gen 1 had some dark moments, gen 2 toned it down, gen 3 toned it down further

gen 4 decided to " fuck it we ballin"

[velvet bobcat]

Yea gen 3 is like
The goofiest game

[cerulean bluff]

its borderline like earthbound in tone

its very silly

[daring fern]

it's funny.

3's mons are a bit "edgy" in design but the games are goofy

[cerulean bluff]

this conversation makes me want to replay gen 3 games

[daring fern]

5's mons are more lighthearted overall, but one of BW2's standout moments has ghetsis trying to off your player character

[cerulean bluff]

honestly while this is definitely not good for game freak, it also KIND of good because its reigniting my interest in pokemon a wee bit

some assurance that z-a is very good and pretty playable already and all this cool behind the scenes stuff

[daring fern]

honestly even if this leaker knows how to hide himself

I think it's a pretty boneheaded move to leak things like the detective pikachu trilogy and an upcoming netflix show right away

they should've just focused on oldest to newest

cause some of that upcoming stuff is going to get lasers pointed at their forehead sooner

[tropic pollen]

btw there's a leaked meeting conversation between board members about when Ash was gonna leave the anime here. I've been reading it

[daring fern]

oh yeah that stuff too

[tropic pollen]

its an interesting conversation

[cerulean bluff]

holy shit

can you share the tidbits

this is VERY interesting

[tropic pollen]

its also very repetitive

[cerulean bluff]

makes sense lol

[tropic pollen]

they mention the time Serena was introduced and Mr. Yajima, the director of the XY anime, got death threats for it

[marble sand]

Wtf lol

[tropic pollen]

they see having romance in the anime as "tricky"

[daring fern]

Are there any mentions regarding any attempts to phase Ash out sooner than when they ultimately did?

[tropic pollen]

oh

Centro deleted everything about the anime

[rough kelp]

ruh roh

[tropic pollen]

wait no its here its just

not on their frontpage

weird

https://x.com/CentroLeaks/status/1845401726926344540

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks) on X

This is THE MEETING where The Pokémon Company reflected on why Ash's story in the anime needed to end, including how they were gonna do it exactly.

Incredible insight behind the scenes the anime production and Pokémon as a whole.

https://t.co/83cYq0Lbb7

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 9:50 AM

[cerulean bluff]

99% of people thought that ash will be gone after gen 4 anime

[tropic pollen]

oh shit there's a whole new movie leaked here

damn

[cerulean bluff]

WHAT

WHAT MOVIE

[tropic pollen]

movie 24

||https://x.com/CentroLeaks/status/1845411660695007532 || apparently its stuck in development but incredibly interesting

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks) on X

Ok, here's the big one. POKÉMON MOVIE 24 INFO

Codename: Bauer

Has been in development hell since at least 2021, was originally planned to release in 2023.

This film was being thought of as a reboot of the movie universe to reconnect with lapsed fans, and to try to get a more

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 10:30 AM

[daring fern]

I think the biggest question on my mind is if there were any plans to retire Ash either after the Gen 1 anime, or after the Gen 2 anime

[tropic pollen]

wtf is that

[cerulean bluff]

HOLY FUCK THIS ARTWORK???

[daring fern]

doggy

[cerulean bluff]

oh there absolutely were

takeshi shudo intended and vouched for ash's story to end with kanto with gen 2 anime to have new protagonist

but as ash and pikachu duo got very popular this was vetoed

this is why indigo league was structured the way it is, it was meant to be 80+ episodes self-contained anime

[tropic pollen]

oh my god they mention star wars here lmfao

||This situation reminds me of how George Lucas handled Star Wars—he often frustrated fans by making decisions that didn’t align with their expectations, despite having creative control. It’s a similar case here. Pokémon has evolved beyond just the original creators’ vision; it belongs to the fans now too.||

noooooooo please keep the vision intact lmfao

[cerulean bluff]

DO NOT FUCKING LISTEN TO POKEMON FANS

DO NOT

[tropic pollen]

also ||"It's set in modern Kanto and the main Mythical Pokémon of the plot is Mew. Two new protagonists: Light and Akari (male / female). The idea is that the film will touch modern society problems, like cyber bullying and suicide."|| is crazy lmfao

[cerulean bluff]

okay i kinda hope this comes true cuz

holy shit

PLEASE

this sounds raw

[daring fern]

honestly, they should've just done what they eventually ended up doing and just have each protagonist have a different pikachu

no different than each super sentai/power rangers having a different Red Ranger

[cerulean bluff]

yeah

[tropic pollen]

yeah this is the biggest leak of all time pretty much

[cerulean bluff]

this is part of why takeshi shudo left the series too

[daring fern]

fuck, they could've had the Gen 2 anime protagonist start with a Pichu that eventually evolves into a Pikachu

gen 3's protagonist could've had a female pikachu

[cerulean bluff]

considering that pokemon horizons is being rather successful with fans and new viewers

it does go to show that this wouldve been the right move to make from the start

(i still miss team rocket tho )

[cerulean bluff]

female pikachu design didnt exist until gen 4 tho

[daring fern]

I remember reading an alternate history work focused on the games industry, one of the things that happens is the pokemon anime does cycle out protags every generation

[daring fern]

huh, i swore it was 3 that introduced visible gender differences

[cerulean bluff]

nope

it just introduced genders

but not differences

one of the original pokemon gen 4 leaks are all unused sprites with visible differences

which were very goofy for the most part

[marble sand]

||Why is the dog thing so damn long wtf||

[cerulean bluff]

jake adventure time

[marble sand]

Real

[tropic pollen]

||I think thats a sash ||

[cerulean bluff]

https://vxtwitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1845388294487449862

bro

16 MINUTES?

[spice remnant]

|| https://tcrf.net/Development:Pokémon_Diamond_and_Pearl/Documents ||
Apparently there's actually like a dozen different version of Arceus's myth

[cerulean bluff]

makes sense

[tropic pollen]

good

[spice remnant]

Besides the one I translated which I've put on this page there's one other translated here so far

||In that version Ly Ay and Hy are Ia and Ea's babies who are in love||

[rough kelp]

I love "every region has a different depiction of the same god" trope ‼️

[tropic pollen]

||DIA/PAL REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL||

[spice remnant]

I think it's probably more like different revisions of what they want the lore to be tbh

[rough kelp]

dang

[tropic pollen]

||this makes sense, i always took them as being based off Izanagi and Izanami||

im pretty sure they even are, actually

[grand crown]

unfortunately Team Rocket can’t come back even as a cameo or bit because Jessie’s VA is passed away and it’d be giga disrespectful

[spice remnant]

Yea it makes a lot of sense

[rough kelp]

???

[spice remnant]

||This one also has multiple titans and Ia and Ea's appearances are based on Aus's body looking completely different on the left and right||

[rough kelp]

why would that be disrespectful

[cerulean bluff]

what?

no she didn't?

she voices girl ranma right now in new ranma anime

[tropic pollen]

you're thinking of a different VA

[rough kelp]

they meant the us one klu

but like, still

[spice remnant]

Jesse's EN va passed away very recently

[cerulean bluff]

it was 4kids va

so its still rather irrelevant to the japanese production

(still very unfortunate though)

[grand crown]

hmm

[tropic pollen]

||multiple giants lets goo, we're honing in||

[rough kelp]

it's not disrespectful to have someone else voice the character that was voiced by someone who passed away

[daring fern]

I'm pretty sure Rachel stopped voicing Jessie way before her passing as well, the english VAs were recast at some point

[tropic pollen]

||Deity pokemon in love is ambitious, i see why it was decided to be revised||

[daring fern]

...i deeply regret that i was never able to meet her at a con before it happened, though.

[spice remnant]

That doc is actually labeled mpyth01 .1 while the one I translated was pmyth5.3
So they might have flipped back and forth on points

[rose junco]

no 2 introduced genders

[rose junco]

oh shit

[marble sand]

||it's so cute though. immortal lovers who will always find each other through space and time because they're in charge of it||

[storm hawk]

||https://vxtwitter.com/centroleaks/status/1845414501207678991?s=46&t=0j55r8ziYjWjpNGdzoAjFQ||

[tropic pollen]

tbh i don't see there being anything in these leaks that'd give us more of an insight to the current canon lore. They've done a fine enough job in-game to make us understand the composition of the world

[tropic pollen]

||that are also siblings but true||

@spice remnant https://www.gamefreak.co.jp/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/info20241010.pdf statement from game freak about the teraleak

[spice remnant]

Loading icon go brrrr

[grand crown]

i don’t even need to read it to know they’re pissed as all hell

[daring fern]

leaker's going to see this hovering over him when he wakes up

[tropic pollen]

i can screenshot it if you need me to

[rose junco]

got more stuff
so there is some gen 6 stuff in here already, idk what all it is though

[tropic pollen]

anime or game?

[rose junco]

game

[tropic pollen]

noice

[rose junco]

it's specifically stuff that is labelled by dev

[slow orchid]

Yeeeeess....

[spice remnant]

Looks like they're apologizing for the leak, says 2606 cases of employee information was leaked (names and company email addresses) and that they have contacted those affected if possible, and are taking measures to prevent this in the future, and then a contact point for inquiries
This letter seems to be solely directed at the people in the company

[grand crown]

holy cowaglungus its almost 6 am have i really been staring at this channel for 8 hours

[tropic pollen]

and even thats been leaked ☠️

[rose junco]

see doc about tools
(for example)

[tropic pollen]

yooo

[slow orchid]

Pikachu if he 3D

[spice remnant]

Spamton Pikachu

[marble sand]

I need to go to bed it's also almost 6 am but I don't wanna miss all the deets

[tropic pollen]

more aboute movie 24

||By the way, the documents specifically mention that no new Pokémon will be introduced in the movie, so I have no idea what the hell is that (referring to the weird dog under the womans arm)||

[grand crown]

if that’s a gen 6 tool why is the window old ass windows

[tropic pollen]

Could be a skin

[grand crown]

oh true

[spice remnant]

Mf wanting their so retro skin for their tools

[cerulean bluff]

im glad they arent blaming the dude that got hacked and instead are concerned for him and other employees.

[grand crown]

waow ! so retros !!

[opaque marsh]

Just read back through what I missed while I was asleep

holy shit

[cerulean bluff]

||maybe its some shit like pokedoll that isnt an actual pokemon but like a merch in-universe||

[grand crown]

i like how this teraleak came out of nowhere

[cerulean bluff]

it came out on xy anniversary

intentional maybe?

[rose junco]

lot of this stuff seems to be more technical in general, makes sense

[spice remnant]

Looks like its public on their website
Its just the kind of website that's not targeted at their product audience

[grand crown]

possibly

[cerulean bluff]

anyway i hope that anime movie happens

it sounds sick

[opaque marsh]

agreed

[rose junco]

||maybe the dog was an early Pokemon? idk||

[tropic pollen]

Also the ||Cyrus Autism|| thing got community noted LMAO

|| >“自閉的” in this case doesn't refer to autistic.
That's sometimes used to mean "closed-minded" or "introverted" ,Because in Japanese, autism isn't a compound Greek word, but a combination of the common words 自 (first person), 閉 (close), and 症 (symptom).
Origin of 自閉 from 信州医誌:||

[cerulean bluff]

yeah

its okay he will be autistic in our hearts

[slow orchid]

||#FlyHighCyrusAutism|| 🕊️

[daring fern]

I believe computers running XP for business purposes usually have the "classic" theme on for efficiency purposes IIRC. And it would make sense for them to still be using XP at this point. XY was announced publicly during my last year of elementary school, and they were still primarily using XP on their computers there

[tropic pollen]

Its interesting to see them acknowledge it as it being Their Bad

[grand crown]

im sorry but every time that man talks i just feel like there’s something going on inside his head other than the god complex

[cerulean bluff]

good

that' game freak's W on their part

they dont blame the person who got hacked

[spice remnant]

I mean data breaches are always the fault of the company

[tropic pollen]

Ye

hold on nvm maybe

[rose junco]

map editor mentioned lol

[spice remnant]

Like if you had a guy break into a mall with a weapon the mall would apologize for that

That's just how it works

[tropic pollen]

the text on the picture says

||"アペロンを連れて逃げるアカリ。逆さまな都市で空中バトル

Akari escapes with Aperon. An aerial battle in an upside-down city.

So it maybe really is a new Pokémon called Aperon? (アペロン)"||

[cerulean bluff]

imagine if it leaks.

[rose junco]

it probably will

[cerulean bluff]

the trajectory of pokemon romhacking will change forever

[rose junco]

whenever the rest of the X and Y stuff leaks

[tropic pollen]

||first gen 10 pokemon leak? ||

[spice remnant]

Didn't the RSE map editor leak? Or was that also just images

[cerulean bluff]

i think it leaked??

[rose junco]

the editor did leak

and there was other tools too

haven't found them myself yet though

y'all wanna see a house

[opaque marsh]

I dig through it and there was a “message tool” but it was all in Japanese and I didn’t mess around with it too much

[tropic pollen]

another anime leak

[grand crown]

chat im going to go to bed if any more tools or messed up looking concept art comes out, please please PLEASE ping me

[tropic pollen]

||https://x.com/CentroLeaks/status/1845413223052312701 ||

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks) on X

NEW POKÉMON ANIME

Codename: Reload

This is an all-ages anime series co-produced with Twin Engine (TE), a planning and production company affiliated with Studio Colorido, known for A Whisker Away.

◎ Episodes:
12 episodes (approx. 21 minutes per episode) over 1 year
• Media:

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 10:36 AM

[cerulean bluff]

what is it about

sounds interesting

[rose junco]

wtf how much anime (and other show) stuff is there lmao

[tropic pollen]

doesnt mention plot specifics

but

[cerulean bluff]

||i like how once ash got retired the floodgates were opened for variety of different anime projects||

[tropic pollen]

||it says here that it was meant to tie into the movie||

[cerulean bluff]

OHHHH

[tropic pollen]

||https://x.com/CentroLeaks/status/1845414063909556236 ||

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks) on X

This is a very interesting slide, showing the 3 Pokémon animation projects that were planned way back in 2022.

We already talked about Reload and Bauer, the most interesting thing here is that Verne (Pokémon Horizons) was planned to end in 2025.

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 10:39 AM

[cerulean bluff]

this new continuity

please dont die in dev hell PLEASE 🙏

this seems like its aimed at slightly older audience than horizons/ash anime

[tropic pollen]

and I guess that|| it was also originally planned for Horizons to end in 2025? perhaps thats changed now||

||"Verne" is Horizons btw||

||Reload is the 12 episode anime, Baur is movie 24||

[cerulean bluff]

||maybe it was the original plan before they were sure if it will be successful or not||

regardless i do hope that this show gets an actual ending at some point and we won't have another ash situation

[tropic pollen]

im still on ||Aperon personally like this could be the first gen 10 pokemon right here||

[rough kelp]

||>ape

apron
this is an elemental monkey||

[opaque marsh]

||oh god not again||

[rough kelp]

oh yes, again

[tropic pollen]

more about movie 24

oh its the plot

[west bramble]

Have I missed anything interesting

[opaque marsh]

yes look at the pins

then read from there

[west bramble]

Oh, that's handy

Thanks

[spice remnant]

||Oh shit this version of the myth Im translating has the titan be one of Arceus's 3 creations @tropic pollen ||

[tropic pollen]

interesting

[rough kelp]

||void termina|| description

[tropic pollen]

||but are you sure this isnt just referring to giratina, and that the creation trio are these "giants" here||

[tropic pollen]

||gen 1 only what can i say||

tho this is stated to be an early version of the plot

[west bramble]

||Is it the Mewtwo movie again again||

[tropic pollen]

||non't||

if you want the synopsis of this early version of movie 24 (so very likely not the final product), check here ||https://x.com/CentroLeaks/status/1845420331588030637 ||

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks) on X

More information about movie 24:

- The original plot of dealing with bullying was scrapped as the executives thought it was too much.
- Light (the protagonist) is a young trainer who dislikes the idea of putting Pokémon in Poké Balls, over the movie he gets to "enjoy" being a

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 11:04 AM

[rough kelp]

interesting to see how much they have changed over the years, actually doing ||bullying topic now with team star plot||

[spice remnant]

||This version is actually so whack
Aus isn't born from the egg at the beginning of the world
He's just some fucking guy that's also there and he made giratina to break the egg||

[tropic pollen]

LMAO

||OLD MAN PEEPAW CANT GET UP||

[tropic pollen]

||MICHAEL!! DONT LEAVE ME HERE!!!||

[west bramble]

||>movie 24 plot

look inside
it's N||

[spice remnant]

||Also random thing is for some reason in a bunch of these Ia is god of light instead of space
Which coincidentally makes them translating it as Lustrous Orb in English really fitting||

[tropic pollen]

oh thats big horizons spoilers

[lethal iris]

What on earth?!?

[velvet bobcat]

oh missie you have a lot to catch up

good luck

[tropic pollen]

yeah okay this is huge spoilers

[opaque marsh]

yeah look at the pins and read from there to catch up

[velvet bobcat]

do they finally do something with terapagos

[tropic pollen]

doesn't say

but let me put it like this

imagine if you saw the design drafts for Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi after watching A New Hope

[west bramble]

They discover it's new form

Terabyte

[tropic pollen]

I think this is the most concrete, spoilery "future content" thing of this leak so far

the only reason im stalling is because im not even sure if i want to share this ☠️

[west bramble]

Is it that big?

[rose junco]

I've been looking for it so please

[velvet bobcat]

it appears rather large

i dont rlly watch horizons so yea bring it on

[tropic pollen]

MASSIVE POKEMON HORIZONS SPOILERS, ENTIRE SERIES PLOT DRAFT PAPER

With machine translation on picture 2

||It looks like there'll be a mid series betrayal followed by a 2 year time skip||

||idk why iris and brock are there, i think they're meant to be placeholders for "vibes"||

||"Colombus" is the codename for the last Ash episodes btw||

[rose junco]

||this part isn't too spoilery tbh||

[velvet bobcat]

this is really cool but ||who's rakua||

[rose junco]

||it's a place, goal for main characters and the villains is to get there||

||localized as Laqua btw||

[velvet bobcat]

||ah i see||

[tropic pollen]

||It spoils that there'll be a betrayal, a timeskip, and a "rebuilding from the ashes" moment. I'd say that's pretty significant||

[velvet bobcat]

yea its pretty big

[rose junco]

||ah didn't even see that part, but not what I was looking for||

[velvet bobcat]

||i dont think anyone was expecting the friede betrayal||

[tropic pollen]

||oh wait yeah shit thats the captain guy isnt it? damn||

||i dont watch the anime, so||

[rose junco]

||yep||

[velvet bobcat]

||its like getting spoiled on the disney twist villain while still on th first act of the movie. what do you mean its the sheep||

[tropic pollen]

^

[velvet bobcat]

yea checks out

[spice remnant]

Somehow every part of this one is hilarious to me

[rose junco]

||anyway, I was mostly looking for Amethio and Gibeon info|| (still anime stuff)

||especially about the Zygarde||

[tropic pollen]

uh oh

[velvet bobcat]

guh oh

centro looking at the files be like

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-fnaf-memes-freddy-fazbear-freddy-freaky-gif-12693495263874297725

[tropic pollen]

||NOOOOOOOOOOOOO, JUANNNNNNNNNNNNNNN||

[spice remnant]

||I honestly don't know how literal inanaku is cause everything I looked up just says its a neigh but like I first learned the term from Return to Dream Land text where it describes Dedede's hammer swings with inanaku||

[tropic pollen]

okay yeah

ZA is leaking

we're in the endgame now bois

[rose junco]

oh shit

[slow orchid]

OH

[tropic pollen]

||https://x.com/CentroLeaks/status/1845427953619919022 ||

big ZA and Anime spoilers

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks) on X

POKÉMON LEGENDS Z-A LEAKS:

- Mega Zygarde is happening, it's planned to appear in the anime
- Mega Zeraora too
- Originally was planned for a 2024 release

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 11:34 AM

[slow orchid]

OH THATS Z-A LEAKS

[spice remnant]

Zamn

[rose junco]

||yeah that's partially what I was looking for with the anime stuff lmao||

[wanton trail]

WHAT.

[tropic pollen]

kinda wanna drop out now

LMAO

[wanton trail]

||holy shit my mega zeraora prediction was right||

[rose junco]

||there was no fucking way Gibeon's Zygarde wasn't going to tie in with Z-A||

[velvet bobcat]

oh shit

[wanton trail]

Samn i missed ||a mot with the anime||

[velvet bobcat]

||zygarde gonna be STACKED BRO how TF do you make a mega out of it||

[wanton trail]

||and apparently friede betrays the Rising Volt Tacklers?||

[velvet bobcat]

||is it gonna be mega of the 100% form? jesus cristo those stats gonna be insane||

[velvet bobcat]

||yea seems like so||

[wanton trail]

||please make it so he is a double agent||

[west bramble]

Did the leaker backpedal on their promise?

[tropic pollen]

its possible that this comes from the anime

[slow orchid]

I'm not sure but i'm assuming this leaked because the current leaks right now are Anime related

[rose junco]

I don't think it was intentional yeah

[slow orchid]

Yeah

[rose junco]

it definitely was because of anime

[tropic pollen]

It seems like this information comes from another anime board meeting

also says that ZA was supposed to be winter 2024 but was pushed back

[harsh lion]

Crazy.

[spice remnant]

Wait

I just realized something

[west bramble]

This absolutely is the biggest leak we've had so far

[spice remnant]

I've always distinctly remembered how Azelf has Uproar

||And Hy was the God of Voice before willpower||

[tropic pollen]

Source for above statement BIG SPOILERS FOR ANIME AND ZA

[west bramble]

Pokemon Spaceworld has nothing compared to this

[velvet bobcat]

||zygarde and WHAT||

||OMORI?????????????????????||

[tropic pollen]

Thats a common name in Japan cmon

[torn ore]

||wait but Zeraroa is no longer part of the six heroes||

[velvet bobcat]

dude this is just like in the hit indie game Omori featuring Omori crazy ass Omori reference

im falling off the stairs as we speak

[tropic pollen]

||Read above, there’s a very big twist in the anime||

||if you dont mind being spoiled further||

[torn ore]

||The Friede one? Or did I miss a new one?||

[tropic pollen]

that and ||a two year timeskip and a team rebuild. Likely with Zeraora||

[slow orchid]

I feel like i ||should be more shocked at mega zygarde but somehow mega zeraora's mere existence is more shocking to me||

[surreal vault]

Okay I've caught up now

Hoooooooolyyyyy

[leaden salmon]

Sorry for bashing in. Does the info about only single employee's data being leaked is still true? Or has more people been put to risk?

[surreal vault]

||Mega Zygarde implies Mega Yveltal and Mega Xerneas.||

[tropic pollen]

Does it tho

[surreal vault]

Maybe

[tropic pollen]

its possible! but i wouldn't call it a guarentee

[velvet bobcat]

i see multiple sources claiming different things

[tropic pollen]

game freak themselves say its multiple people

[leaden salmon]

I see no reason to doubt their claims

[spice remnant]

Page 2
This lore kinda dookey imo lol

[velvet bobcat]

what im getting from this is that multiple have been leaked but only one guy was publicly revealed

[leaden salmon]

Then my only hope is that things will stay as such

[tropic pollen]

||giratina goes crazy||

[tropic pollen]

the same meeting has ||Sugimori mentioning that Horizons is more like "GAIA" than SV||

[torn ore]

||Oh what I wanna hear bout this Timeskip. And TWO YEARS?! We gonna see the actual protags age???||

[tropic pollen]

||so Gen 10 could literally be about travelling the world||

[slow orchid]

That would be kinda sick tbh

[tropic pollen]

pinned the convo @torn ore

[surreal vault]

||Honestly....so fitting for it to be the 10th generation of pokemon||

[cerulean bluff]

||these horizons spoilers are CRAZY what the fuck||

||its definitely the most ambitious pokemon anime plans to date||

||characters will fucking age||

[velvet bobcat]

thatd be awesome

[spice remnant]

Final part of this one

[velvet bobcat]

chat just to be sure
||rico leak had no mega zygarde right||

i need to get that worry out of my mind

uhhh also massive za spoilers in that spoiler box

[tropic pollen]

||oh wtf, the soul of the giratina standin became the weather trio???||

[tropic pollen]

no

[velvet bobcat]

rico found dead in lumiouse back alleys

[rose junco]

oh wtf

[cerulean bluff]

this whole leak is deranged

[surreal vault]

We still haven't gotten to Gen 6 proper yet

[cerulean bluff]

pokemon z here we comeeeeeeeeeee

[surreal vault]

Was pokemon Z even like
Developed

[cerulean bluff]

we will find out i guess

[surreal vault]

To some degree

[spice remnant]

||Yea, after it died and received half of palkia/dialga's souls
Whack||

[rough kelp]

I wonder if we will see some of james turner's designs

for gen 5+ ofc

[slow orchid]

Give me Z or give me Death

[tropic pollen]

not to my knowledge, it was initially planned to be dual sister versions like BW2 or USUM

[harsh lion]

anime and games ("ikakku" and ||"gaia"|| mentioned)

[slow orchid]

(And By Z, i mean Pokemon Z, not Z-A)

[spice remnant]

Random but I'm hearing people say ||The Blaziken-Latias design was originally meant to be a Delibird evolution||

[rough kelp]

taka where does this go on your ||cacturne|| tier list

[surreal vault]

Wat

[harsh lion]

||it's definitely a Cacturne.||

[slow orchid]

What

[rough kelp]

||flesh bundle....||

[tropic pollen]

WAIT. I CAN KINDA SEE IT.

[harsh lion]

Insane if true

[surreal vault]

Be careful who you call ZU in middle school

[tropic pollen]

oh my god its right there

[spice remnant]

This is the shit of all time

[slow orchid]

Oh my god.

[leaden salmon]

||Rocket santa||

[tropic pollen]

this could just be a coincidence but itd be hillarious if true

||the beak is gone, for one||

[spice remnant]

Apparently its name was ||Elhawk||

[surreal vault]

.....

[rose junco]

yeah I'm also hearing people say the devs thought ||it looked too much like Delibird not that it was an evo||
gonna have to wait to see what's true

[surreal vault]

[rough kelp]

this is a certified venonat butterfree moment

[slow orchid]

||Hawk and its a 2nd stage?||

[harsh lion]

is this anything

[spice remnant]

Look at this dog

[rough kelp]

lead it to ultra warp ride tbh

[spice remnant]

Its so
Dog

||Wait the not-scraggy and the treecko are 396 and 397 and have the same color scheme||

[harsh lion]

thought of this instead

[tropic pollen]

dude there are so many beta grovyles LMAO

[rough kelp]

real...

[rough kelp]

||replace it with the violet version, and since it leads to miraidon it leads to the creation of future paradox and bundle||

[leaden salmon]

Wait, so they start with sprites and then do the spread sheet of the pokemon?

[rough kelp]

🔥 ||delibird dominoes to bundle||

[harsh lion]

true...

[spice remnant]

||Me after my fried fish ball comes alive||

[slow orchid]

They knew grovyle was just that peak of a design

[rough kelp]

is this what the beta swalot turn into

[spice remnant]

no clue lol

[harsh lion]

||i like how theres a design that looks like snom if it was a hippo||

[spice remnant]

what the fuck

[harsh lion]

creature

[wanton trail]

||SNOM?||

[spice remnant]

This feels familiar but idk what it reminds me of

[twin pulsar]

This one is awesome

[rough kelp]

the fuckass bomber messenger in sonic x

[harsh lion]

bw

raw

[spice remnant]

bitching

[spice remnant]

So true

[spice remnant]

Oh god you mean this shit

[rough kelp]

The Egg

[spice remnant]

FUNNY ||BOOK BIRD??||

[harsh lion]

this ones so funny

i wish it was real

welcome back chansey

[surreal vault]

Welcome back shiny azumarill

[twin pulsar]

||are all of these renders official?||

[velvet bobcat]

yea

[twin pulsar]

||are they leaked for Z-A?||

[velvet bobcat]

no?

[twin pulsar]

Oh

[velvet bobcat]

this is ||gen 3||

[twin pulsar]

Oh gotcha

[spice remnant]

||Sandstorm|| Castform...

[tropic pollen]

THIS BETA GRUMPIG IS WAY CUTER

[twin pulsar]

I didn’t know because they tend to use ||old spritework|| sometimes

[velvet bobcat]

YEUCH

[spice remnant]

Old relicanth goes hard af

[tropic pollen]

NO

NO WAIT

[velvet bobcat]

why he ourple

[spice remnant]

Tentaquil

[tropic pollen]

TENTAQUILL??????????????

[twin pulsar]

||beta poliwrath?||

[spice remnant]

Vibrava pre-evo

[tropic pollen]

beta flygon

these guys actually looked more like a line lmao

[spice remnant]

Disgusting thing

[twin pulsar]

Aw man this leak really is huge

[twin pulsar]

||beta Gorimondo|| lol

[wanton trail]

||Rock em sock em primates||

[spice remnant]

How does Ninjask look exactly the same as it does now and then Shedinja looks like THAT what the fuck

Why is it so big

I ALMOST POSTED THIS WITHOUT EVEN NOTICING
THIS IS SKITTY

[twin pulsar]

||they should reuse some of these designs ngl||

[tropic pollen]

adorable

sometimes they do

[spice remnant]

Funny tirtouga being gen I design

[velvet bobcat]

||i thought those were like droppy manboobs on skitty there instead of hands when i first saw it im so sorry||

[spice remnant]

Funny guys

[twin pulsar]

||Pikmin Pokémon???||

[spice remnant]

bee

[twin pulsar]

||Queen Sectonia meets Madam Grape||

[spice remnant]

Huntail and Gorebyss ||were one pokemon like Girafarig||

[harsh lion]

goodness

[harsh lion]

oh this is cute

[twin pulsar]

||the second one tho 😍||

[spice remnant]

Freaky ass clamperl

[surreal vault]

Did images stop loading or is it just me

[rough kelp]

just you

[torn ore]

Oh regarding Z-A and the anime leak ||We're gonna see fucking Mega Rayquaza vs Mega Zygarde are we?||

[surreal vault]

Yep it was just me

[rough kelp]

the nefarious ||mega necrozma: ||

[spice remnant]

3D title screen reshiram and gurdurr ||but with a rock||

[surreal vault]

That looks so goofy

[rough kelp]

that's a chicken

[spice remnant]

Wtf he looks so cool

[rose junco]

oh Faye did you get the files

[tropic pollen]

bro it sitting on the castelia bridge would have been hard as fuck

[spice timber]

GIYGAS HELLO?

[tropic pollen]

MY SONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN????????????

[surreal vault]

||Better than the final already I fear||

[tropic pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-stare-meme-angry-gif-14312537171363175004

[rose junco]

also ||that early logo looks sort of cool||

[leaden salmon]

||🚦||

[tropic pollen]

this one's cute btw

[spice remnant]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041999602771034193/1294993695141003264/59_60_melonDS_0.8.3_2024-10-13_12-59-08.mp4?ex=670d085c&is=670bb6dc&hm=39f44a62a8ee0be6300f032dea1830182884447de3580ba6073f810b911bdbe4&||
early battle scene, early patrat, early wild battle music
Its so awful it sounds like if you told a child to trace your art but your art is the final wild battle music

[harsh lion]

Welcome back BDSP

[surreal vault]

Final Haxorus jumpscare

Those camera angles???

[tropic pollen]

camera wyd

[harsh lion]

wait theres some parts about this that i like

[spice remnant]

Hyper ass zoom

[surreal vault]

Bro thinks he's in gen 6

[spice remnant]

||There's placeholder sprites for alternate kyurem formes in black and white 1||

[tropic pollen]

neat

[harsh lion]

||Kyurem Azul...||

[tropic pollen]

Kyurem Roje

Roja?

idr

[surreal vault]

||Kyured. Blurem.||

[harsh lion]

rojo

[tropic pollen]

rojo yea

[rose junco]

oh yeah if you have gen 3 and 5 stuff, Faye, did you get the gen 4 stuff
||is there more HGSS night themes?||

[spice remnant]

I only have Gen III stuff directly

[rose junco]

ah

[spice remnant]

They nerfed her skirt length

[spice timber]

little freak from scrapped/in development hell movie
||https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1212216851501940806/1295003011826843649/SPOILER_20241013_083913.jpg?ex=670d110a&is=670bbf8a&hm=8119b54f64f26433d304c031e1568951cd2ce9a459be3ac0708f3b459503f636&||

[rose junco]

oh do you have the ||dex with early Sugimori art or whatever|| stuff for 3

or just like, sprites

[spice timber]

plot summary/concept of said movie
||https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1212216851501940806/1295003473477107773/SPOILER_Screenshot_20241013_084038_X.jpg?ex=670d1178&is=670bbff8&hm=23b10de18c212d69e7ef06a3cb1aee8daeb2069d75262bd8d3a7c4bd2a1c09c6& ||

[spice remnant]

Just sprites

[spice timber]

don't have a source though

[tropic pollen]

there¨'s a full plot synopsis further up tank

[spice remnant]

Early Gen V gym leader theme

[harsh lion]

oh someone made a spreadsheet

[rose junco]

ah rip

[harsh lion]

of all the gen 3 sprites it seems

is it ok to post

[tropic pollen]

||https://vxtwitter.com/Lewchube/status/1845433707961684093|| gen 5

[opaque marsh]

🔥

[spice remnant]

Early black opelucid

[tropic pollen]

isnt this white

[velvet bobcat]

Shouldn't the B stand for Black

[spice remnant]

I think they probably made White version and just converted it to make this black version at this point

[rose junco]

anyway, gonna go to bed now probably
can't wait to catch up with so much more leak stuff in the morning (well moreso whenever I wake up but you know what I mean) lmao

[spice remnant]

early skyla

[tropic pollen]

you sure thats not elesa

[velvet bobcat]

||where the hispanic at||

[tropic pollen]

i mean the booty shorts are there i suppose

[spice remnant]

early lass pose

[rough kelp]

is her head backward

[velvet bobcat]

||awful ass pose||

||bro did not cook with this one||

[rough kelp]

oh she's facing backward

but the leg poses look forward

it's so weird

she's like, leaning backward 45 degree or sth

[spice timber]

skinwalker ass pose

[velvet bobcat]

They tried to go for something dynamic but fumbled

[rough kelp]

oh you know what it is

[harsh lion]

|| https://x.com/HiResPokemon/status/1845443638265856359 ||

Hi-Res Pokémon! - Rescuing official Pokémon Art! (@HiResPokemon) on...

UPDATED! Spreadsheet here https://t.co/x7Pop0MHp5 with preliminary identification of the Proto Gen 3 dex based on the past leak, with names, notes and some pokedex entries, orig data provided by TCRF

Twitter · Oct 13, 2024, 12:37 PM

[rough kelp]

mars' official art pose.

[spice remnant]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452166186575200289/1294969207687217214/jynxdog.mp4?ex=670cf18e&is=670ba00e&hm=df61d286f78f7bb8387ff7913de134bd07a081b769d0684642897b0a892f6c25&||
Guys do you think that shiny snivy is a placeholder I think they totally intended this to be its final shiny colors at some point

[rough kelp]

eww bulbapedia

[tropic pollen]

Lilipup confirmed to be Jynx

[rough kelp]

yeah it's literally more dynamic version of

[slow orchid]

Demented and evil fucking snivy

[surreal vault]

Video doesn't work for me

Even after download

[rough kelp]

speech bubble pokémon world's matpat

[spice remnant]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/452166186575200289/1294967011692118026/N.mp4?ex=670cef82&is=670b9e02&hm=2bac5e7a19af207fae42de9b801124d4b0a3951b17d225d7569c4d1bf2e9667e&||
Vid of this fight

[rough kelp]

😭 it's getting insanely popular (beta ||licky||)

everyone loves that rotund ass thing (me too)

[harsh lion]

||its funny how lickilicky has 3 designs and the final one is the worst one||

||i really like the slowking looking freak from gen 2||

[spice remnant]

This Lyra art feels very gen II to me for some reason

[rough kelp]

it's the gen 1-2 official art face

[rough kelp]

hop off my goat...

[tropic pollen]

Centro posting the beta pantheon and calling it OFFICIAL ORIGIN OF THE POKEMON WORLD kill me

didnt we do enough of this shit with kirby lore

[spice remnant]

Jedi's son again and gothitelle

[rough kelp]

thinking about this, there's a timeline where miku is paired with it instead...

[spice timber]

i am so fucking sad about beta ||elgyem||

[spice remnant]

You don't remember ||ia, the god of light, sibling of ea, god of time???||

[spice timber]

||love that mon already but that goes RAW||

[spice remnant]

Holy shit full version of the art from this TCG card

[rough kelp]

why is bro literally

[tropic pollen]

hey we can always get a regional

[rough kelp]

how would regional form works for elgyem considering it comes from up there

||moon-based elgyem lfg||

[spice remnant]

Lower your volume what the fuck is this

[tropic pollen]

diferent place from up there

[rough kelp]

pm...

pokémon masters, clearly

[tropic pollen]

this... sounds? like ELite four?

[spice remnant]

'Fixed' (Still shit) version

[tropic pollen]

HUH

WAIT I KNOW THIS ONE

IVE HEARD THIS ONE FROM SOMEWHERE. NO?

the hell is going on

but yea its ass

[spice remnant]

Full path is pokemon_wb_mirror/trunk/prog/filetree/pm_battle.swav

Really nice RS concept art

[rough kelp]

COLOBROS

[spice remnant]

Ah here's white opelucid

[harsh lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb9hvRSEel8

what

[spice remnant]

Lmfao

[tropic pollen]

I KNEW IT

I KNEW ID HEARD IT SOMEWHERE

I guess they were testing how much a DS engine compresses shit

[thorny cedar]

Hi

[rough kelp]

the leo

[spice timber]

welcome

[thorny cedar]

I saw something insane on Twitter and had to come talk about it

That being ||the literal pokemon origin myth||

[spice remnant]

MFW Maxie's overworld sprite is based on this beta battle sprite

[spice timber]

correct

[thorny cedar]

Unreal

[spice timber]

that did leak

[thorny cedar]

They leaked the goddamn book of Genesis

[spice remnant]

13 different versions of it

[surreal vault]

There's several versions of it that have leaked

[thorny cedar]

HELP

[tropic pollen]

yea except its old versions

so none of it is canon

[thorny cedar]

THEY LEAKED THE QURAN AND THE APOCRYPHA AND THE BOOK OF MORMON AND THE

[thorny cedar]

who cares it's rad

[surreal vault]

True

[spice remnant]

https://tcrf.net/Development:Pokémon_Diamond_and_Pearl/Documents
Three of them are translated, 2 of them by me

[spice timber]

||pokegods|| were canon at one point

[tropic pollen]

I CARE

[thorny cedar]

Honestly very fair

[rough kelp]

speech bubble zinnia

[tropic pollen]

LEO IM A KIRBY FAN THAT WAS IN THE TRENCHES IN 2016

I CARE A LITTLE ABOUT LORE BEING CORRECT

JUST A LITTLE.

[thorny cedar]

Lmfao

So is Arceus a robot or a clone

[spice remnant]

Leo you expressed interest so you're now legally required to read this

[slow orchid]

Neither, its Golden Freddy

[thorny cedar]

Thank you Faye

[tropic pollen]

its actually dark matter

[thorny cedar]

||So who are rei ai and hai||

The lake trio?

Yes I know I'm a colossal idiot

Remember I hated pokemon until this time last year

[rough kelp]

what crunchwrap does to a mf

[thorny cedar]

Melted cheese 🙏

[tropic pollen]

also you gotta tag stuff

[thorny cedar]

Oh right

That big announcement I did in fact proofread

Sorry 🙏

So who is this :)

[rough kelp]

||dialga palkia||

[thorny cedar]

Well yes

I meant the others

[rough kelp]

oh

yeah the ||lake trio||

[thorny cedar]

||time and light isn't exactly subtle enough for me to not get it ||

[tropic pollen]

||Ia and Ea are DiaPal, "Rei, Ai and Hai" are the lake trio spirits||

[thorny cedar]

HOORAY

I actually got it

[harsh lion]

||Dialga's hot date???? Welcome back nebby?????||

[tropic pollen]

||DiaPal went on a hot date yeah||

[rough kelp]

the trajectory pmd2 would have taken if this lore was canon...

[surreal vault]

||Putting the creation in creation...duo not trio Giratina plays no part here||

[spice timber]

i wonder

[shell sand]

i completly forgot to tag somoene 10 minutes after i said i would have

oops

[spice timber]

||giratina was added in post||?

wait

||https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/551972811854577665/1295014643554844753/20241013_042027.jpg?ex=670d1bdf&is=670bca5f&hm=997ccbe96425f5558dba038a3dcfe856cc637672d5d7ac1c25c6d79fa57a11fc& ||

[north fjord]

I finally caught up after falling asleep

[spice timber]

bug migu?

[white garden]

Beta Kyurem?

[north fjord]

So

[thorny cedar]

||Kartana Teto||

[north fjord]

ZA details got leaked ey?

[tropic pollen]

||beta meloetta||

no bu tyes

[spice timber]

WAIT

||it was gonna be a bug||

WE WERE ROBBED?

[rough kelp]

blue
four arms
2 antenna
this is a Stitch

[spice timber]

sparsely

[thorny cedar]

I heard we also got the ||Switch 2's codename||

[silver shore]

Yes
But leakers won't divulge info

[tropic pollen]

we knew this before

but yes

[shell sand]

im just gonna

[spice timber]

we have (actual z-a spoilers) ||mega zygarde and zeraora|| confirmed from the anime

[thorny cedar]

There is no we

Please tell me :)

[shell sand]

@restive silo #1028079151091027978 message i forgot ot tag you so here's a quick jump to where u left off

[shrewd pulsar]

modelingcloygregskullskeleton#0 - #Leaks for Pokémon

ill do it in 10 minutes

Quoted by modelingcloygregskullskeleton#0 • [265452965089902593] · Oct 13, 2024, 5:24 AM

[tropic pollen]

||Ounce||

[thorny cedar]

??????

Alright

Fair enough

[rough kelp]

the ||ounceler||

[spice remnant]

Giratina plays part in one of the other ones
Well rather, ||the black titan is Aus's creation in that one instead, but had to be killed for being too violent||

[torn ore]

Major anime spoilers ||You know the six hero Pokemon? Well there's gonna be a twist that there's actually 9. Zygarde is one, Elygem (odd choice?), and a Gen 10 mon||

[thorny cedar]

||(image of "huge success huge failure" list of Nintendo consoles) how ba a a ad can I be||

[spice remnant]

There's also this fucking shit which I translated regarding the mythology

[torn ore]

As to why they chose Shiny Zygarde and Rayquaza for the anime ||They wanted something like the theme of Yin and Yang, and they thought of using Reshiram and Zekrom but instead opted for something more unique||

[shell sand]

i hope leo is imagining the regular image and not the well known tumblr image

[thorny cedar]

I can't know unless I see at least one of them

[shell sand]

hi leo

[thorny cedar]

||who the fuck is Tex. The penguin from animal crossing????||

[tropic pollen]

thats actually interesting

[spice remnant]

||Regigigas since its the boss of the regis||

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/eyes-regigigas-pokemon-pokemon-regigigas-light-gif-12079405435394037412

[spice remnant]

||But fuck knows who Dahabu Saan Gordon Smilay Birthlee are||

[shell sand]

i think those 5 are fucked especially since gen 5 changed their legendaries around a lot

[thorny cedar]

Hiya :) be my chores person

[tropic pollen]

||my guess is one of them is shaymin||

[shell sand]

which chores

[thorny cedar]

Finding one of these

[spice remnant]

||Well I assume they're all meant to be Pokemon introduced in Gen IV, we just don't know who||

||Smilay and Birthlee are listed with the mythicals so they might be Manaphy/Shaymin/Darkrai||

[tropic pollen]

||"Smilay" = smile = gratitude = shaymin
birthlee = manaphy because it can breed||

thats my guesses

[torn ore]

Little theory, Z-A and Anime spoilers ||Zeraora was supposed to be one of the hero mons until he was replaced by Kleavor, and with Zeraora having a supposed Mega Evolution, are they gonna carry that over to Kleavor?||

[shell sand]

i cant believe looking it up isnt an instant hit of what im thinking of

anyway during the height of onceler in the tumblr community there wsa one post going around that kept getting added onto that made onceler thicker every time it was posted

[tropic pollen]

||I think Zeraora will appear in the second half of the story, with its mega|| ZA and Anime

[opaque marsh]

LMAO true

also Ben 10 spotted (neuron activation)

[torn ore]

Z-A and Anime ||Considering there are actually nine hero Pokemon, he might take the weird Elygem spot?||

[tropic pollen]

||weird Elgyem is a beta design for Elgyem in bw wdym||

[spice remnant]

Also now that I think about it ||in the version of the myth where Aus created the black titan as a third being Ia was still god of light instead of space, but in this diagram there's no third thing alongside Ia and Ea while Ia is already space
Which makes sense since the later myth where Ia is space returned the titan to something outside of arceus's creation instead, but in it Ry Ay and Hy are still Eyes Spirit Voice instead of knowledge emotion will like in the diagram so the diagram is even newer than that myth||

[tropic pollen]

||wait is there an Elgyem in horizons?||?

[rough kelp]

||there's a beheeyem in horizons||

[tropic pollen]

That i know

[shell sand]

|| https://fixvx.com/Lewchube/status/1845439728536997926 ||

WE ALMOST HAD LUMIOSE CONFUSION ON THE DS

[torn ore]

||I mentioned earlier that there are actually three more of the six heroes, in the early drafts, the six heroes were Shiny Rayquaza, Galarian Moltres, Entei, Lapras, Zerarora, and Hatterene. And the three secret extra heroes are Shiny Zygarde, Elygem, and a Gen 10 mon. Seeing as how Hatterene were replaced by Arboliva and Kleavor, the Elygem in the extra three might not be final as well||

[shell sand]

is this pokemon horizons lore

[proven bay]

Hey has anyone gotten any ||beta Cynthia designs||

[proven bay]

(not about Horizons)

[tropic pollen]

||where are you getting these early drafts from||

[rapid stream]

Can't wait for the 7 hour vídeos about everything that was leaked

[torn ore]

From Mootmonthly's server lmao

[tropic pollen]

Ah i c

Well ok ||since Beheeyem is a reocurring villain, it would feel weird to replace Elgyem to me||

||maybe Beheeyem is that Elgyem. Grown up||

[shell sand]

plural and its going to be 10 videos long

I think its insane that pokemon was like

[tropic pollen]

Its gonna have a tragic backstory and everyone will love it and this is how i win

[shell sand]

enjoying this silence and peace

like just a few days ago it was like damn can khu say something already

and then just. in the background someone was trying to phish some guy and got the Literally Everything

[west bramble]

either Khu is being secretive on purpose or he genuinely knows nothing

[spice timber]

khu when pokemon has its biggest leak of all time and none of the attention is on him

[west bramble]

did he post anything since the leak

[shell sand]

no i mean i dont really care about khu

but like

the Pokemon fandom was just waiting

patiently

just sitting there

[west bramble]

he truly was beating around the bush

[shell sand]

and then the Phantom Thieves were making their biggest heist in the BG

[spice timber]

he posted one shitty hint about ||gen 10 being in greece, going off the gaia codename||

[shell sand]

this heist is so big its genuinely just absolutely 100% you can put Persona 5 imagery on it and it wouldn't feel over-the-top because it Was that big

[west bramble]

okay yeah

he knows nothing

i'm convinced

[shell sand]

its just idk its so fucking wild to me

it just happened out of nowhere

[spice timber]

timed to xy's anniversary

[west bramble]

unrelated but this reminded me of the harddrive article from a few months back

[spice timber]

khu also took an l because he said to expect news on the anniversary

[west bramble]

i mean

he was kind of right on this one

there is NEWS

they're just

not official news