Leaks for Pokémon

[surreal vault]

And that is

?

[velvet bobcat]

adam

[spice timber]

the adaman ancestor girl

?

[surreal vault]

If it's the ||Adaman descendant I'm pretty sure Khu hinted that already||

[spare hare]

he did

[spice timber]

i feel like archaludon kinda throws everything out the window

[velvet bobcat]

||watermelon leaker talked about an adam character and drayden character||

||both are in||

If the riddler already hinted at em then ignore this

[spare hare]

||adaman khu hint might have been before the leak tho||

i don't remember for sure however

if ||there are 7 new mons in teal mask, we still have 2 left||

since ||the new paradoxes are apparently confirmed to be indigo disk||

[tropic pollen]

||my guess is mightyana evolution and possibly dipplin evolution||

||Carmine has one, Kieran has the other||

||indigo disc was going to have 8?||

[spare hare]

yes

||we know 6 of them now, terapagos, archaludon, raging bolt, iron crown||

[tropic pollen]

||then we've seen/know of six - Archuladon, Terapagos and then the four paradoxes||

[spare hare]

and presumably the other two ||of the legends||

[tropic pollen]

thank god we didnt get any ||unova stuff btw||

[shell sand]

maybe its for december

[spare hare]

idk why ppl thought ||they were gonna show a new mainline game before feb tbh||

||we still got the dlc||

[shell sand]

cynycism

[spare hare]

||so we're getting a tree mon||

[shell sand]

but its a bridge

theres no bridge in that || city|| at all

[tropic pollen]

||Duraludon is a skyscraper tho||

[tropic pollen]

||Think it could be a gen 8 mon?||

[spare hare]

||who could be a tree||

[harsh lion]

||Trevenant. Its a trade evo again||

[tropic pollen]

||Uhhhhh idk, alcremie also lost a gmax||

[shell sand]

oh duh

Dipplin

[spare hare]

ig ||it might not literally be a tree but at least something much more nature-y||

he would have just posted dipplin

[shell sand]

Hmm

[spare hare]

also it says not revealed yet

[spice timber]

i think it's safe to assume that dipplin is the food mon he was talking about

or was it specifically a ||convergent||?

[spare hare]

nah he just specified it wasn't that

[north fjord]

So ||Swalot is back on the menu?||

[spare hare]

also yeah ||it was supposed to be a convergent||

bc he called it ||an "rfake"||

[spare hare]

yes.

[north fjord]

Literally

It’s a pun

[spare hare]

||unfortunately it looks like weezermelon is truly dead||

sad!

[tropic pollen]

Rip

||purple to green|| is interesting

||Could it be type or color?||

||spiritomb has both purple and green||

[spare hare]

also we have more context for this now

||we knew about blueberry being relevant to the dlc already bc it's the academy name, and now we know why apple is relevant (dipplin)||

[tropic pollen]

Pic wont load

[spare hare]

||there's no peach or watermelon pokemon so those are harder to guess||

[tropic pollen]

There we go

[north fjord]

||So Watermelon is bait maybe||

||For Weezermelon||

[spare hare]

it's a poll from khu ||with options being blueberry, apple, peach, and watermelon||

[spice timber]

oh shit ||gulpin back on the menu||

[spare hare]

oh and for context one of them is supposed to be irrelevant to dlc

implying the other 3 will show up

[north fjord]

||So watermelon is probably out then||

||Where does peach fall in||

[spice timber]

that's referring to ||the momotaro legend that teal mask is based on||

[spare hare]

||actually that makes sense||

||it probably is watermelon then||

[north fjord]

Oh yeah that makes sense

So we basically know everything now about this poll

[surreal vault]

||So the Rfake is....a peach?||

[split swan]

News from the direct?

[harsh lion]

check pokemon channel

paradoxes for raikou and cobalion, new applin evo, new duraludon evo, elite four

[spare hare]

||the hero in the story that ogerpon is based on is called "peach boy" essentially||

so it's possible that the ||peach comes from the reference to that story in teal mask||

[split swan]

Have a hard time finding the new Pokémon

Just found them

[spice timber]

also, ||in the legend they're born from a peach||

[hot zenith]

Oh, I remember now, ||there was an adaptation of it featuring Mario characters once||

[tropic pollen]

question, how many Khu hints do we have left unconfirmed

[spare hare]

it's fucking joever

gdi

[tropic pollen]

lmfao

[spice timber]

istg

[spare hare]

at this point i think it's ||the convergent mon, the tree mon, and this:||

[tropic pollen]

||i think this is tied to the blood moon/dark type hint||

||look at Zinnia with the moon in the bg||

[harsh lion]

||it is the dark type yes||

[tropic pollen]

||that Zinnia comes with a Thievul||

[spare hare]

it is that hint yea

it's a reply to that tweet, i just couldn't include the original tweet in the screenshot

[spare hare]

||IMAGINE IF IT'S ANOTHER GEN 8 EVO||

[harsh lion]

||thievuls not coming back tho||

[tropic pollen]

||dont think Thievul is in the leaks...||

[harsh lion]

_ _

[spice timber]

||the thievul fan is ecstatic rn||

[spare hare]

this is the original list of mons he posted

[spice timber]

oh wait

[tropic pollen]

its definitely ||Mightyana||

[harsh lion]

||also they wouldnt give weavile or umbreon an evo so i say mightyena||

[spare hare]

it was more a joke than an actual suggestion

[tropic pollen]

||Carmine has a Poochyana||

[harsh lion]

^

[spare hare]

||mightyena makes way more sense bc one of the twins has it||

[harsh lion]

||and we know the kid has a cross gen||

[spare hare]

||kieran has dipplin yea||

so since drayton also has archaludon

are we gonna see new aces for the other 3 members of bb e4

||sadly it wouldn't really line up with the number of new pokemon||

[harsh lion]

seemed like cooking guys ace is magmortar to me

[spare hare]

yea that makes sense

it cut out before lacey sent out any pokemon so she might have a new one

[harsh lion]

if i had a nickel for every e4 member whose ace is magmortar id have 2 nickels. which isnt much but

[spare hare]

idr for amarys

[spice timber]

could be magnezone or something

[harsh lion]

sends out sandy shocks

[spare hare]

yea she looks like a steel specialist

[spice timber]

wonder what lacey has, she doesn't really look too themed compared to the others

perhaps a hatterene?

[spare hare]

could be something new

||if indigo disk has 8 new mons, we know of 6 so there's still 2 left||

[harsh lion]

||are you counting the remaining paradoxes there||

||archaludon, terapagos, 4 paradoxes?||

[spice timber]

but wouldn't those ||last 2 just be entei and terrakion||?

[spare hare]

yes i'm counting ||entei and terrakion||

[harsh lion]

ah ok

[spice timber]

oh

hmm

[harsh lion]

you know what im surprised they havent done with dlc

[spice timber]

||terapagos + archaludon + 3 beasts + 3 swords = 8 mons though||?

[harsh lion]

make a new pseudo for the new regions/areas

[spare hare]

there's no reason to count iron leaves or walking wake as part of the dlc counts

[harsh lion]

||leaves and wake arent new||

[spice timber]

OH YOU'RE COMPLETELY RIGHT

[harsh lion]

Well of course.

[spice timber]

i have to assume that ||the last 2 are beast/sword fusions||

and for dlc1, ||the last 2 are mightyena evo? and fruit convergent (probably the tree mon that khu was talkin about, maybe it's a spiritomb tree?)||

[harsh lion]

wouldnt make sense to me

[spice timber]

oh yeah, i think we can sus out the typings of the loyal three now

[spare hare]

yeah idt that's an obvious assumption

they might be in but it could easily just be hinting that they exist

[tropic pollen]

I could see ||Dipplin turning into the White Forrest hint mon||

[spare hare]

||it'd be wild if we got another fucking evo for that line lmao||

[spice timber]

fezandipiti was using moonblast in the trailer, munkidori was using something that looked psychic-y, and okidogi was using some kind of punching move that didn't have any grass effects on it besides a green tint

[harsh lion]

|| 1. idt we are getting fusions; 2. if we did theyd probably be entei/terrakion alt forms because theyve never actually done fusions or anything as new mons. species clause and all that||

oh ok sure do that discord

who cares anymore.

[spice timber]

tf is that font

[harsh lion]

help how do i make it not do that

[spare hare]

1. taka moment

[tropic pollen]

1.

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-oh-please-make-it-stop-gif-19623284

[tropic pollen]

||DLC 1 - 7 mons: 3 heroes, Ogerpon, Dripplin. - 2 left
DLC 2 - 8 mons: Archuladon, Terapagos, iron crown, raging bolt, terakionP, enteiP - 2 left||

[spare hare]

||we know one of those has to be a dark evo, and either 1 or 2 is gonna be a convergent||

||and if it's a separate mon, there's also a tree mon||

||oh also presumably there's gonna be some mythical at some point like zarude||

bc ||khu said 7 + 8 + 1||

[spice timber]

i have to assume ||we'll see that one sometime after the dlc drops||

[split swan]

Oh I wonder if the |||future swords || have a new theme to them

Since it seems ||the ancient beasts reference a new concept in the form of the 4 lucky beasts (basically identical to the four directional beasts but replace tiger with a house dragon)||

[arctic bobcat]

didn't really watch the presents, did this come true

because all i could tell was that it was game already announced or released or DLC

[surreal vault]

No....

[arctic bobcat]

like not a single NEW game

not even just one

[surreal vault]

What we DID get 3 of were...animated series annoucements

https://tenor.com/view/papyrus-undertale-thinking-gif-16277613

(I know Horizon's been out in Japan for several months but it still counts)

[velvet bobcat]

Where did the "3 new games" thing come from btw

[spare hare]

I have no idea

[spare hare]

pyoro confirms ||mightyena's not the one getting the evo||

rest in peace

||carmine straight up just carrying a mightyena around? lmao?||

[marble sand]

[hot zenith]

||The answer might be none then||

||Unless it's some sneaky hint for a completely different Pokemon||

[spare hare]

also potential hints at new pokemon

||if that first line is supposed to be the convergent mon, looks like some matcha mf? maybe?||

||like a matcha cake||

[marble sand]

pyoro seems so pleasantly normal compared to other leakers lol

[spare hare]

also people are thinking this is supposed to be showing the typings of the loyal three

||assuming they all share poison, it's psychic for munkidori and fairy for fezandipiti||

||idk what move okidogi is using but ppl are saying fighting so i'm just gonna go with that for now||

[hot zenith]

||Watch it be dark||

[spice timber]

||that move has green particles but none of it indicates a grass typing, so i think it's safe to assume that it's just a fighting move that's colored to fit okidogi||

also wtf, ||no mightyena||?

that's surprising

[harsh lion]

||This is how crawdaunt can still win.||

[spare hare]

||clearly this means poochyena is just getting an alternate evo||

[tropic pollen]

||i cant believe its not mightyana||

||the other options were fuckin Umbreon, Weavile & Night time Lycanroc. It HAS to be Mightyana||

[tropic pollen]

||this seems to hint that Dipplin does indeed evolve into the big tree||

[harsh lion]

||tbf there was also "none of them"||

[velvet bobcat]

||I'm more inclined to "none of them"||

[rough kelp]

||new move grass punch ||

oh actually gamer

||I think we maybe looking at new animation for grassy glide||

[tropic pollen]

||Needle arm||

[spare hare]

potential twist spoilers

||maybe this is what happened to sada/turo and the book when they went into the "time machine" at the end of the game||

actually no that doesn't make sense

[harsh lion]

||Turo Transition||

[spare hare]

bc ||she appears in teal mask and you can do that before completing the game||

[rough kelp]

||holy shit congrat on her transition||

something I was wondering

[spare hare]

||unless there's actual time shenanigans happening but this would imply they were sent into the past in both versions||

[rough kelp]

||whether or not this outfit is specifically her violet appearance and she will look different in the scarlet version||

because ||it has violet patterns on it||

[harsh lion]

red jeans though so probably not

[rough kelp]

could be ||swapped in scarlet version||

[harsh lion]

also shes not from naranja/uva academy

[spare hare]

||you can tell her outfit is the same here, even in scarlet||

||there's another screenshot of her with uva students and she's wearing the same thing there as well||

[rough kelp]

oh hum

[harsh lion]

someone said that she looks like a bramblin/brambleghast

[spare hare]

she's got wild eyes tbh

[rough kelp]

she looks like ||brassius||

atleast, the hair

[harsh lion]

imagine if the dlc ||gives us a brambleghast evo with insane stats and a ghost sigmove and you can get some real wind rider nonsense out of it||

||speaking of ghost sigmove i wonder if poltergeist will return as a tm lol||

[spare hare]

||>480 bst||

||550 bst evo lfg||

[rough kelp]

||brambleghast with poltergeist power whip will be heat||

[harsh lion]

still cant believe dunsparce has an evo. incredible

[rough kelp]

||watch dragapult still not get it||

[spice timber]

probably spoilers for ||convergent||

||MATCHA SINISTEA LFG?||

[vestal arch]

||ok but is it another grass ghost||

[spare hare]

It's gotta be ||a convergent so maybe like a matcha cake?||

Bc ||the other tweet had a cake next to the green tea emote||

[spice timber]

i think this thing with the ||tea ceremony|| isn't a khu hint, but an actual like real teaser

[spare hare]

||like instead of tea in a cup it's a dessert in a cup or something lol||

[spice timber]

and technically, ||sinistea is a purple mon that would turn green if it was matcha||

[spare hare]

They're supposed to be revealing something on sunday

So maybe

[spice timber]

it'd be weird to tease this now and then not reveal it

[spare hare]

It also says ||August 22 on it for some reason||

[spice timber]

oh you are 100% right, that's weird

[spare hare]

||is that supposed to be related to a reveal or something||

[spice timber]

||i guess that's when it'd be revealed if not on sunday||?

also, i guess this revelation means that ||dipplin doesn't evolve again? iirc it was 7 mons for dlc1, so all of the non-legendaries would only have one mon in their lines/one addition||

[spare hare]

||it could just evolve in wave 2 ||

||they could just make the evo method exclusive to there||

||plus that kind of makes sense bc if you refight kieran in wave 2, you wouldn't see his full ace until after beating main game||

||assuming dipplin has an evo anyways||

[spice timber]

oh 100% true, yeah

[spice timber]

||yeah that's definitely a teaser||

[spare hare]

||august 22 is just a random tuesday||

||it'd be weird if they gifted this at worlds and then didn't reveal it on sunday considering we literally know there's gonna be sv news there apparently||

||but also i don't really get the point of putting 8/22 on there either||

||maybe there'll just be another reveal on 8/22 regardless||

[vestal arch]

|| number 822 is corvisquire before anybody else gets the idea to check ||

||no way it means remotely anything but just putting it out there||

[surreal vault]

||Tea line rfake would be wild||

[spare hare]

||>potentially 3 gen 8 lines getting shit in the dlc||

holy fuck ||we're getting galar remakes before unova||

[spice timber]

||can't believe khu wasn't referring to unova when he said that a certain gen got hella pandered to||

and ngl?

||galar deserves it, all of its mons got super super snuffed in everything but the tcg||

here's the real question though: ||will this sinistea/polteageist mon have an authentic form||

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-no-no-no-tanklorde-gif-25785566

[spare hare]

uncooking

[vestal arch]

i take it back this is a terrible idea

[spare hare]

||let's introduce two more evo items for it too||

||don't reuse chipped and cracked pot||

[spice timber]

oh yeah we should also ||give the authentic form a stat buff this time :)||

[finite ocean]

|| INeedToKnowWhichDLCMiniorMayBeIn ||

[soft lava]

|| I don't think there was anything to specify which dlc the removed dex entries were for. You could guess that the entries that were added later are for the second dlc, but thats about it. Not sure if there was anything either way about minior. I'd assume the first one since it's in the open air instead of a dome, but could go either way and thats just speculation anyways. But one of em. ||

[soft lava]

Oh, I should
.

[finite ocean]

|| i mean like everyone loves minior so like they are definitely going to add it ||

[manic bane]

||anyone know what the date on the box means btw||

[spare hare]

nop

||but it's thought to be the date for another news reveal||

||and ppl are thinking it's gonna be some variant on the sinistea line bc of the fact it's a matcha set||

||a convergent line in particular bc of something khu said||

[manic bane]

oh sweet

[harsh lion]

||Its gonna be Iron Mugulis.||

[manic bane]

lmao i just looked that up what is this

[harsh lion]

its a nefarious creature

[manic bane]

gonna need this on my team

[silver shore]

Wait wha?
||https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1690647561873321984?t=i0cJPSTHjV2ZRbuILKrHNQ&s=19||

[velvet bobcat]

Oh wow

Wasn't expecting a full clean screenshot to arrive so soon

This seems pretty legit

[silver shore]

Oh it's on the pokemon website

[velvet bobcat]

oh lol

That explains

[tropic pollen]

Shaymin being revealed to return is cool

I wonder how many extras we’ll get

[spare hare]

i can see us getting ||that new mon on aug 22 now||

[tropic pollen]

lmfao i just noticed, there's only ||3 lines/6 pokemon from Kalos returning ||

[spare hare]

Tbf ||that's literally 1/12 of the kalos roster||

Plus there's also a decent amount already in the game

[tropic pollen]

||41 out of 72, 47 with DLC||

[tropic pollen]

did we talk about this?

[spice timber]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress-soldier-gif-19640066

||matcha sinistea antique form lfg||

[spare hare]

FUCKKKKKKKK

[tropic pollen]

LMAOOOOOOO

[harsh lion]

||IRON MUGULIS IS REAL||

||bro r they fr giving cheap ass polteageist an evo lol,||

[spice timber]

iirc the rumor was ||convergent sinistea/polteageist based on matcha (green and foamy) tea||

[surreal vault]

Fcuk

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-sully-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-gif-22295503

[spare hare]

me when ||remoraid|| is not in the dlc

[tranquil laurel]

[rough kelp]

||what was your amount for 3-seg shiny again?||

[spare hare]

||i got it on my 127th shiny dunsparce||

||and i also found 6 shiny wild 2-segment dudunsparce as well||

[tropic pollen]

heard khu's been posting again, anyone got caps?

[hot zenith]

||Faiy||

not me making a goofy while pointing out someone else's goofy

[tropic pollen]

||same order as the types on the crown ||

||as well as the oddly z-crystal shaped crystals below||

[surreal vault]

Sussy!

[spice timber]

||tf could it even mean though, is it something for tera forms?||

[spare hare]

||i've seen it suggested that we have to collect all the crystals before we can use this specific tera jewel||

||so similar to getting all the plates in pla||

[spice timber]

oooh that'd make sense

||wonder if they're gonna tie legend plate arceus's mechanic into having that tera type||

[surreal vault]

[candid nebula]

||I'm still personally of the idea that Terapagos' ability changes your party's Pokemon's Tera Types into the 19th Tera Type||

[rough kelp]

this is where ||raifort jumps in and pull a volo||

[vestal arch]

||obligatory comment about ultra necrozma copium from the z-crystal shaped gems||

[rough kelp]

||tera psychic choice specs neuroforce Light That Burns the Sky vs croagunk||

[velvet bobcat]

I think gen 9 suffers from character overdose
There's too many hype characters that we all want to do shit but they never get to do things cause there's always new characters coming
Raifort will never rule the world

Fuck the new DLC villain whoever that is, should had been the underpaid history teacher

[rough kelp]

I doubt she's underpaid

look at all the legendary accessories on her

[velvet bobcat]

She's a teacher ofc she's underpaid

[spice timber]

geeta watching her character development be stolen by someone who's basically a walking spoiler

[split swan]

I don't get while pokemon does this sometimes

[velvet bobcat]

Will they never elaborate on geeta

[spice timber]

i mean we still don't know this for sure

[harsh lion]

i dont think they have to elaborate on any character like that though

[split swan]

like they give mysterious hints about Geeta but they don't seem to be exploring it, unless maybe its for the epilogue storyline post the Indigo Disk storyline

[harsh lion]

geetas the only one they should have in the game again

[spice timber]

they could bring back the original ones in the dlc2 endgame with terapagos

[harsh lion]

raiforts an optional side quest shes obvi not gonna be relevant

you can go the whole game without talking to her

[velvet bobcat]

Rainfort ancestor will slay in Pokémon Legends Zero I hope

In 2069

[spice timber]

and we're also getting the whole brand new storyline with kieran and carmine and the four new rivals

so geeta being left out might not be that big of a deal if the stuff we get is as good as what base sv had

[split swan]

just a more general problem with the franchise in recent years

they introduce some characters, even big profile ones, and they don't get much expansion for one reason or another

[harsh lion]

its literally always happened

[split swan]

even pokemon themselves are becoming victim of it

like Calyrex

[velvet bobcat]

More in the recent games in which more and more characters are introduced

[harsh lion]

is that really true though

id say RSEs cast is as big as SwShs if not bigger

[velvet bobcat]

Absolutely (source: me)

Huh no?

[spice timber]

i mean wally in gen 3 vs gen 6 is a good example

[split swan]

they also introduced the people of Ultraopolis but they have yet to appear again in any media

[spice timber]

wally in gen 3 has like 3 scenes and then he vanishes

in gen 6, he gets like one more scene and that battle theme

[split swan]

but back then there was a good bet they appear in other media

[spice timber]

but then he vanishes again without any deeper character development

[split swan]

but now they aren't gauranteed that anymore

[spice timber]

there's also the fact that most pokemon characters before like gen 5 could be described as either ":)" or ">:("

so it didn't really matter if they got elaborated on as much i guess?

[split swan]

so we got like a leak about Drayden's grandkid appearing in ID, I wonder if they will bring a relative of a Gen 2 character to the DLC

[harsh lion]

you have brendan/may, birch, nine gym leaders, wally, steven, maxie, archie, tabitha, courtney, matt, shelley, professor cozmo, scott, five frontier brains

that's 6 evil team members vs macro cosmos's 2
that's 2 rivals instead of 3
9 gym leaders as opposed to swsh's 10
and secondary characters like cozmo and scott where swsh doesn't have any until the dlc with peonia and honey. swsh has a big cast but it needed dlc to surpass rse's (mustard, honey, their kid if you rly want to count him, avery, klara, peony, peonia) and even then i do not think it does? idc to do the math though

[split swan]

since obviously Drayden's GK is there to have a quest about the future swords

so it seems like there will be another character for the ancient beasts

[harsh lion]

not to mention an elite four unlike swsh lol

[spice timber]

well he could just accompany you for both quests

[harsh lion]

I... do not see how its obvious

[velvet bobcat]

Literally who is professor cozmo

[spice timber]

he already shills unova with archaludon basically just being a unova bridge

[spice timber]

i think he gives you a castform

[harsh lion]

just as irrelevant in RSE as half of swsh's cast but he gets a role in the delta episode

[split swan]

cause it seems like this new Unova representative will have stuff regarding the paradox counterparts of 5 legendaries

[velvet bobcat]

Oh that guy

[harsh lion]

he's the fallarbor town guy who gets kidnapped

meteorite man

in ORAS he works for the space center

[split swan]

so far the leak does not clarify if this character is version exclusive or not

[harsh lion]

you realize

Drayton has already appeared in trailers

and hes very clearly not version exclusive

[split swan]

but it would make a nice parallel if they had another character parallel them for the ancient beast sidequest

[spice timber]

drayton was kind of said to ||hint at whatever they're doing next for unova||?

[rough kelp]

no taka I worked at gamefreak drayton is actually lance's nephew in scarlet version instead

[split swan]

I definitely want future stuff

[spice timber]

so i presume he's gonna be story important in some way

[split swan]

it feels like Genesect is perfect for this

like ancient beast fused with futuristic tech

if it doesn't have a subquest in gen 9 I be furious

[spice timber]

wait

what if, if we get a mythical this gen

it's a genesect paradox that leans more into that

[split swan]

that be awesome

another thing would be to see an ancienter version (or more likely an interpretation of its past self) and an hypothesized future version what was even more mechanical

it also would make sense since Gen 5 was the first game to have a parallel past and future aesthetic

[velvet bobcat]

Counting Scarlet Violet's characters and wow
18 badge people + 4 rivals + 1 champion + 6 teachers + 1 nurse + 2 professors + 1 steel baby + 1 japan sexywoman + 4 teal mask characters + 5 indigo disk characters

• your bike who behaves like a character too

44 major characters

And very likely more

[harsh lion]

just because they have a design does not mean theyre major characters

also 18 badges ≠ 18 people associated with the badges. 5 of them are arven alone, so its 13

[velvet bobcat]

You're right my bad

[harsh lion]

4 rivals?

[spice timber]

implying that titan tatsugiri is not a real character

smh

[velvet bobcat]

Subtract 5 then

I count the director as a rival

39 then

[velvet bobcat]

I based my criteria of which characters to count on this very post

[harsh lion]

yeah id assume so

mine goes to 35 lol

wait no i might have messed up

[velvet bobcat]

Maybe 38 if you wanna consider the two professors as one character

[harsh lion]

no its 29 for rse

version differences make it 27 or 28 i think?

also i didnt name like. mr briney, who is A Named Character, or the president of devon, who is A Half-Named Character who you always meet in game, gives you a quest, and is also made a little more relevant in oras due to delta episode (and having an actual design)

but no ones actually going to remember devon corp guy, or professor cozmo, or the scientist that gives you castform. because not every character has to be relevant or memorable

and i know damn well that not everyone thinks anything of the SV teachers cuz im sure a fair amount of people just did not go to classes

[velvet bobcat]

Their loss

[harsh lion]

and thats okay! characters dont have to be major or relevant. its not an unspoken or otherwise rule of any game whatsoever to only have characters who are relevant to the story. not even rpgs! youd be surprised how many games have named NPCs that you can go three entire playthroughs of the game without talking to. and pokemons no different

[spice timber]

it's nice that sv gives you the option to see the more minor characters

[harsh lion]

i just think its a really weird complaint because theres a lot of characters in sv that actually serve a purpose and work

[spice timber]

and have some development with them

[velvet bobcat]

Teachers are peak

[harsh lion]

yeah the teachers didnt even have to have questlines but they do

[spice timber]

sv's a better game for it

[harsh lion]

sv is one of the pokemon games that best utilizes their characters (behind Gens 5 and 7 as a whole, and maybe PLA - but its not like the bar is too high anyway)

[spice timber]

it also helps that the raidons are real characters with actual characterization too

[velvet bobcat]

Some characters make me go like "this is a great character and there's stuff going on here, I wish we could see more of it in the future", like Raifort and Miriam
So ofc it'd be neat to see them getting a bit of more spotlight, but that spotlight is always deserved to new characters
This is not a "grrr I hate new characters" it's more like a "ah man I wish we could see more"

[spice timber]

oh yeah 100% true

[harsh lion]

imo in a game like pokemon

[spice timber]

tfw geeta really is just a bad champion and not some kind of alien, skinwalker or area zero projection

[harsh lion]

there is no better feeling in regards to a character than the one you get when youre finally able to fight them

[velvet bobcat]

Shame we never got to fight Clive

[spice timber]

the lategame fights when they're throwing everything they've got at you are like the culmination of their arcs

[velvet bobcat]

True!

[harsh lion]

youd be surprised how extra SV is compared to other games

like being able to battle every teacher

[velvet bobcat]

SV story and character is so peak that it makes you want more of it
Suffering from success

[spice timber]

it's nice to be emotionally invested in a pokemon game's real story for once

[harsh lion]

I do think its a shame that theyre just side quests because of course ppl are interested in like. Mostly Raifort and nurse lady idk her name i didnt play it in english. But ive accepted were gonna see either very little or nothing of them because they are very clearly side characters and theres a diff between making a sequel to the main story in DLC and making a sequel to some questline that only serves to give you a TM or a galarian meowth

[velvet bobcat]

Did you know? The fact that gen 9 has good writing is actually a reference to gen 5. This is all foreshadowing to the unova remakes

[harsh lion]

But at the same time. Mustard, Honey and Peony are the best characters in SwSh so its not like i feel as though im gonna be disappointed by Hidden Treasures of Area Zero in terms of characters

[spice timber]

i feel like the dlc protags are gonna go hard as hell

[velvet bobcat]

One good thing tho
We will probably be able to hang out with the Paldea teachers in the blueberry academy room

[harsh lion]

• we know we're gonna be able to trade with gym leaders so maybe theyll get a little more screentime or characterization as well

like u dont know what hgss did to the gen 1 and 2 gym leaders

[spice timber]

and team star members

[harsh lion]

oh fr??

[spice timber]

we get to see more of them after the postgame

[spice timber]

yeah, in the trailer you can see the back of giacomo's head in the club room

[velvet bobcat]

Hope blueberry academy has an actual battle facility there

[harsh lion]

who knows ab teachers then but it would be cool

[spice timber]

i also wonder

we know

literally nothing about the terapagos part of dlc2

everything they've revealed for it was related to the school and the terarium, with 0 story elements

[harsh lion]

Thats why its peak

[velvet bobcat]

Geeta please be fucking relevant
Like ok no shit the teachers have no story relevancy, but the champion should, right??? Right????? What are they cooking

[spice timber]

geeta pulls off her mask scooby doo style and sordward is there

[velvet bobcat]

Would be also awesome to see the DLC rivals teaming up with the main game rivals but that'd be like 5 or 6 characters all in one spot in a game that barely can move two characters at the same time during a cutscene

Especially in area 0

Flashbacks to that one crusty ass cutscene

[spice timber]

school cutscene with characters moving at 5fps in the first 30 minutes of the game lfg

[velvet bobcat]

Pikmin 4 when 100 pikmin + 50 npcs in one area runs perfectly fine

Vs Scarlet Violet when 12 kids in a classroom

[spare hare]

blueberry academy better have 3 fps kids

[rough kelp]

bro has grape pants

this scene btw

[marble sand]

he conformed

[rough kelp]

btw, rewatching to grab that screenshot and I noticed this

I don't think we have seen this trainer's face yet

could just be kieran since he was in indigo disk art and not present in the trailer

but still, this person's fit doesn't match anyone else

nvm I am dumb????

he has the glove too 🤦

[manic bane]

||im still coping she will do this||

[harsh lion]

uh

^||all of the expansions listed there were released between 2012 and 2013 prior to XY and feature up to generation 5 pokemon||

[spice timber]

i don't entirely get what you mean here, though ||ace spec cards being a gen 5 thing and coming back out of nowhere is definitely another tell that a unova something is coming imo||

[harsh lion]

||Im saying exactly that lol, ace spec cards were only featured in generation 5 and are set to return next year||

[surreal vault]

||Sussy||

[spice timber]

ooh mb

||this was all a ploy to bring back gen 5 mewtwo ex||

[runic prawn]

|| ||

[harsh lion]

trueeee

[tropic pollen]

one week til 22.8

[manic bane]

iron mugulis

[surreal vault]

(Khu) Oh boy

[spice timber]

||iron mugulis will be real||

[spice timber]

||someone greened all over the pokemon twitter pfp||

[arctic bobcat]

||they're shitzing??||

[spare hare]

||https://twitter.com/Pyoro_X/status/1692598634007912498 ||

Pyoro (@Pyoro_X)

Nice pfp

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▶ Play video

Twitter · Aug 18, 2023, 6:05 PM

(replying to ||pokemon||)

[velvet bobcat]

that was me, sorry I sneezed

[spice timber]

https://twitter.com/JoeMerrick/status/1692581507267723602?t=8xwo5VjyLoO1X3cKwYvgAg&s=19

Joe Merrick (@JoeMerrick)

Following on from this, Pokémon's official site now has this as its background

August 22nd can't come soon enough

https://t.co/ckum88hcfu

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Twitter · Aug 18, 2023, 4:57 PM

oh there's more

[harsh lion]

its an oshawott

[ivory prawn]

||My hungry ass could not look at these pokemon leaks||

[velvet bobcat]

Technically not a leak since it can be checked publicly?

It's definitely intended by tpc

[arctic bobcat]

yeah but technically speculation also goes into these channels

but even then usually its allowed in the regular channels

[spare hare]

it's diff here since we've had leakers hint at what this is before

i mean if someone like meeper posted it in the other channel then it'd probably be fine but it's sus for anyone who's following leaks to go "oh i wonder what this is" lol

[tropic pollen]

Nice, Ron.

[spice timber]

i remember someone instantly said "oh yo is it ||sinistea||?" or something when the initial gift teaser was released

i don't think they were looking at any leaks

i feel like as long as no one goes and says "yo it's actually confirmed :)" it should be fine, because it's just responding to what they said without mentioning anything else?

[spare hare]

theoretically that should be fine but we've had problems in the past with ppl doing that and eventually treading more and more into leak territory

[spice timber]

i know i've been hella guilty of that in the past, yeah

[spare hare]

it really is not that hard to keep discussion in here

[spice timber]

agreed, i think people haven't really talked about it since the initial teaser

[spare hare]

tbh i wonder what's going to make this a ||convergent as opposed to a regional form||

||it's presumably still a drink based on khu's tweet of "coffee or tea"||

||is it gonna be that it's literally the drink this time and not a ghost possessing the drink||

[vestal arch]

||could be different teacup/teapot or some other container i guess||

[harsh lion]

||maybe its green tea||

||Greenistea and Polteagreen||

[runic prawn]

here we go ||matcha|| pokémon

[spice timber]

i think it'll ||be a new mon with the theming of sinistea/polteageist, but that doesn't resemble any of them||

[manic bane]

disgusting

[spare hare]

||https://twitter.com/hsinhsung9487/status/1693490092860436710?s=20 ||

Jan ただのポケモントレーナーさ (@hsinhsung9487)

@Riddler_Khu Calling it now, Grass and Fairy
Cao Xian can be 草仙 in Chinese, meaning Grass and Fairy, this was a hint from 11 months ago 🤯
https://t.co/4VTqFTY5Nb

Twitter · Aug 21, 2023, 5:07 AM

[marble sand]

||for ogerpon? yeah def grass fairy||

||fits the design and makes it double weak to the typing of the 3 fuckers meant to seal it||

[tropic pollen]

||didnt Khu have a whimsicott hint too at one point||

[tropic pollen]

https://twitter.com/pokemon/status/1693608908009492903?s=46&t=OxgNkSkjcaMO-8ZfkcL3iQ

Pokémon (@Pokemon)

We invite you to gather round on August 22 for a haunting tale about a Pokémon from the land of Kitakami 🍵

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Twitter · Aug 21, 2023, 1:00 PM

||”haunting” its spiritomb…||

[north fjord]

Please

||Spiritomb convergent would be soooooo much cooler than Sinistea||

[harsh lion]

||Sinistea is literally a ghost type wdym LMAO||

[tropic pollen]

||you will see.....||

[spare hare]

So assuming ||tomorrow's reveal is the new sinistea and it gets an appropriate corresponding evo, that's all the new mons for wave 1 then||

||loyal three, ogerpon, dipplin, new sinistea and evo||

[tropic pollen]

what about|| 🌲 ||

[spice timber]

i think that might ||be for dlc2||?

if ||the tree thing is dipplin evo||

[spare hare]

We know there's supposed to be ||7 mons in wave 1 so it's probably just gonna be wave 2||

||counting the remaining legendary paradoxes, terapagos, and archaludon we have 2 mons left for wave 2||

[spice timber]

• ||it might be kieran's ace, and kieran's probably showing up in dlc2 as well||

[tropic pollen]

||or it could show up in dlc1 but be unobtainable until 2||

[manic bane]

||iron mugulis confirmed||

[harsh lion]

fact

[spare hare]

So what's the Scarlet one

[harsh lion]

Great Question

[velvet bobcat]

||Primal Soup||

[tropic pollen]

||Old Money||

[harsh lion]

REAL

[spare hare]

🔥🔥

[manic bane]

That’s kinda fire

[rough kelp]

real

this is uhhhh paradox chatot or sth idk

[spice timber]

it wasn't in a mug

it's over

[harsh lion]

😏

[spice timber]

||https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/722521136578953217/1143541960590774352/image.png ||

(khu)

||he called it a "line", so maybe there's a pre-evo||

[spare hare]

||it's weird to me bc they call it a convergent counterpart of sinistea but use the naming scheme for polteageist||

||i could see it just being a standalone ||

||we have a couple khu hints left too so it could be that we have one mon leftover for wave 1||

||assuming this has no evos||

||if it's not standalone this seems more like it would be a prevo rather than an evo to me, but ig sometimes it's hard to tell with pokemon recently||

[marble sand]

||dipplin moment||

[torn ore]

||Iirc Pyoro confirmed a rumor that it might evolve into a Matcha Cake?||

[spare hare]

||oh I did forget about those emojis from before||

[arctic bobcat]

||sinisnack||

[torn ore]

||Dipplin also gonna evolve one more time. I'm interested to see how they'll pull that off||

||What I really wanna know is if that Terapagos gets a form that is like the equivalent to Ultra Necrozma/Mega Rayquaza/Eternamax Eternatus/Zygarde Complete||

[spare hare]

||in terms of gameplay maybe terastal form is it||

||maybe we'll get some other sick form too but no indication of that yet||

[torn ore]

||And if Exclusive Tera Forms are indeed real lol. We got da big Mask Ogerpon but that's it. I wanna see if the Paldea starters get fancy forms||

[torn ore]

||Closest we got is that weird 19th type crown which is the same one on the book. Though we don't know for sure if that crown will be only for Terapagos while the rest of the mons with the 19th type get a new one||

[torn ore]

||Also iirc book mentions that it has hexagon plates on its shell while its "Terastal form" only has pentagons||

[harsh lion]

||might end up like necrozma where it has an alternate form (in necrozma's case, two) and an ultimate form after them||

||dunno tho i feel like the terastal form is It because it's the one that gets all the promo||

[spice timber]

i think it'll be like

[torn ore]

||I'm still convinced that this Terastal Form is not actually a limited form and works like Zacian or Giratina where it just needs to hold a specific item||

||While the one in the book is its true final form that will be cut from the next game lmfao||

[spice timber]

||normal form is the powered down version you encounter early on in the story, terastal form is the boxart form when you get it to area zero, and then it turns into the big op form when it omnitype teras||

[spare hare]

Tbf it's not like ||calyrex riders had any promo time either||

[tropic pollen]

||the horses were never even revealed||

[harsh lion]

not sure if I understand the comparison

[torn ore]

||No way are they gonna make Terapagos stuck in its Normal Form forever next game so the Terastal form is probably done through normal means rather than being tied to the gimmick||

[spare hare]

Isn't the comparison p obvious

||big new dlc legendary doesn't reveal the big new form prerelease||

[harsh lion]

Terapagos has had two forms revealed though idk

[spare hare]

I mean that could easily just imply there's something else big if they're already showing those forms this earlt

Before we even have a date for indigo disk

[spice timber]

i also wonder why they'd reveal an entire new type for a single gimmick

[spare hare]

I don't think you can say definitively either way

[spice timber]

if that gimmick is just gonna vanish next game

perhaps ||terapagos itself is omnitype||?

[torn ore]

This 19th Tera type probably just gives STAB to all types, but no super effectiveness. Judging from how the type icons glow when the Terastalize button is pressed

[tropic pollen]

||i feel like the 19th type is saved for the tera form ||

[spare hare]

||if anything was omnitype it'd probably be the tera exclusive form||

[tropic pollen]

[harsh lion]

Mayhaps...

[torn ore]

||Imagine if this is actually the Tera Form mechanic lmao. Meaning they kinda revealed that Baxcalibur is getting one||

[tropic pollen]

so what are we missing rn?

[torn ore]

||If Ogerpon gets the same button icon for its big mask form, then its all but confirmed||

[spice timber]

my theory rn regarding this is that ||terapagos is naturally omnitype, but then it also comes with the omnitype tera type, and when it uses that (and gets double stab on its omnitype moves) it turns into the giga op version||

so basically, ||it'd be the only mon in the game that can double up on the omnitype typing||

[harsh lion]

||yall gonna look like fools when terapagos is a dragon fairy that cant tera (but has a "terastal" form)||

[torn ore]

||Dragon/Fairy would be nice tho lmao||

||Plus follows the trend of 3rd Legendaries being part-dragon||

[spice timber]

||steel fairy with base 160 defensive stats and 150 hp||

[spare hare]

Do you mean in terms of new pokemon

[tropic pollen]

Yee

[harsh lion]

||19th teratype = weak to everything, SE against everything. terapagos gets the teratype and Filter with that bulk||

[spare hare]

||that blood moon hint that was supposed to be an evo of a dark pokemon, the tree||

And ||maybe one other pokemon depending on whether poltchageist gets an evo ||

[torn ore]

||Blood Moon form of some fucker, Dipplin evo, Tera forms (?), Ultra Terapagos (?)||

[spice timber]

if poltchageist ||evolves, the blood moon might just be a form||

besides that, i think we know everything?

with ||dipplin evolving in dlc2||

[harsh lion]

||cant help but feel like blood moon suits mightyena more than any other mon ever||

[torn ore]

||Unless Dipplin's on the final slot of DLC 1's dex, it would be weird to make us wait for the second DLC to make us evolve it further lol||

[tropic pollen]

||Finally. Wyrmwood.||

[spare hare]

Unfortunately pyoro straight up said it wasn't this

[spice timber]

if ||the special form is for ursaluna, i find it hilarious that they gave the mon that looks like freddy fazbear a form that ties into it being nighttime||

[tropic pollen]

||Khu said it was mightyana, umbreon, lycanroc or… uh, fourth guy||

Idr

[spare hare]

||idk why everyone is so caught up on Dipplin evolving again but if it does, they might save it for dlc 2 so kieran's team has a progression to it ||

[spare hare]

Or none

Like with sinistea

[tropic pollen]

Damn…

[torn ore]

||Wait if it's Ursaluna, maybe that's why Perrin exists lol. Hisui descendant to help us look for a new Hisui form||

[tropic pollen]

||Ideally that’d be “the tree”||

[harsh lion]

||THANK FUCK this wouldve been annoying as hell considering galarian linoones just a mightyena linoone fusion||

[spice timber]

https://tenor.com/view/freddy-five-night-at-meme-gif-20280550

[harsh lion]

||weavile||

[torn ore]

||Next year's Unova game will have more Alola and Kalos forms. TRUST||

[harsh lion]

||>hisuian zoroark evo||

[tropic pollen]

||bro if they give Weavile an evo after making Sneasler and then kicking it in the balls, i will laugh||

[torn ore]

||I'll take it. I love Hisuian Zoroark||

[spare hare]

||imagine if carmine is deadass just running around with a mightyena||

[tropic pollen]

||everyone’s ace is a new Pokemon, right?||

||…gym leaders not withstanding||

[spare hare]

I've seen people coping that ||it's actually a poochyena evo, just not a mightyena evo||

[harsh lion]

doesnt seem to be the case

||cooking guy was shown with a magmortar||

[torn ore]

||Khu's current name still catches my attention. "Mage Khu X". Shuffle it a bit and you get Mega Khu X. Mega evo returning copium real.||

[harsh lion]

||its only Drayton that has a new mon||

[spare hare]

||All the bb league can't have new mons for aces||

Just given the ||number of new mons there are||

[torn ore]

||Not to mention the Mega abilities are searchable and functional ingame instead of just simply being hidden in the code like in SwSh, and there's also the Home icons that still don't have mainline use||

[harsh lion]

||19th tera type sableye becomes mega sableye, easy||

[torn ore]

||So Unova game next year right||

||I find it funny that they might just straight up skip remakes lmao||

[tropic pollen]

||I love megas as much as you, but i will be honest and say i dont see an angle for their return yet||

||imagine they wont until the gd Kalos remakes ☠️
And then they wont have the ORAS megas ||

[torn ore]

||Same here but I will never stop believing lmfaoooo||

[torn ore]

||Part of me hopes that the eventual Kalos remakes are gonna be the enhanced, scrapped Z version||

[spare hare]

It'd be mad stupid if they didn't have the oras megas

I don't see why they wouldn't honestly, even if it's just postgame (which would still suck but better than nothing ig)

[harsh lion]

||i cant wait for the unova games to be revealed so that i can post "big day for annoying people"||

[arctic bobcat]

『nostagia blast』

[white garden]

If I’m being honest, Calyrex felt more of a third legend than Eternatus

[torn ore]

Yes that is true. I mean it probably is actually lol

Though people see Eternatus as the honorary third legend more due to the fact that its tied to the gimmick, and its always shown in a trio alongside Zacian and Zamazenta

Plus Calyrex ugly so I consider Eternatus to be the third legend instead

[split swan]

honestly I am surprised Calyrex wasn't connected to the wolves in the lore

given Calyrex is King Arthur and the wolves are his weapons

heck Eternatus could actually fit into this too since he could be considered a reference to Vortigern how battled Arthur and was associated with the white dragon

[velvet bobcat]

Just realized something

They already revealed that shaymin was returning alongside all other starters in the DLC

||However shaymin is not part of the pokemon who have been datamined to be coming back||

||It felt very weird that the home update only allowed us to bring a very limited amount of mythicals||

||hope that, if shaymin is gonna be in, so will the remaining mythicals like Jirachi and celebi||

[harsh lion]

||its what they did in swsh||

[dry shell]

||So you’re saying more legendary’s could be coming back||

[harsh lion]

||however I will say swsh's dlc mythicals were leaked - diancie, uh, i forgot the rest. before crown tundra released||

||so the shaymin thing is pretty weird||

[velvet bobcat]

||I'd be really weird if they omitted mythicals like Jirachi and manaphy considering that they were obtainable in bdsp||

||those two alongside celebi are the weirdest mythical omissions for me||

||Maybe the real question is why didn't they get leaked like the other returning pokemon||

[harsh lion]

||tbf BDSP itself omitted an entire mythical for no reason, and Swsh lacked hoopa despite having diancie and volcanion||

||it'd be weird if they didn't return, but also don't count on them returning either yk||

||It IS very strange that SV just doesn't have any of the gen 4 mythicals except Arceus currently in the game and that Shaymin's the only one we know for sure is coming back||

[velvet bobcat]

||fingers crossed tho, shaymin gives me hope||

[spare hare]

Good observation

[harsh lion]

||Id love to see darkrai back just bc I know they would test it in OU||

[spare hare]

Didn't even think to check that again

[spare hare]

||let's nerf dark void even further lfg||

[harsh lion]

||I mean they wouldn't right. If anything they'd buff it back </3||

Posting it again || https://pastebin.com/RpkRJQ54 SV returning mons||

[spare hare]

I think this is a slightly outdated one

[harsh lion]

Oh might be

One sec

[velvet bobcat]

I checked the one in pins for reference

[harsh lion]

|| https://pastebin.com/vLvxYH7z || Might be this one

[velvet bobcat]

Also huh this is the area from the first DLC, wonder if they'll bring em in the first wave or save them for the second

[harsh lion]

||This includes all the starters, Walking Wake and Iron Leaves, but no mention of legendaries||

||Carbink too||

[velvet bobcat]

||Isn't carbink already available via home||

[harsh lion]

||Very curious that the legendaries that already are in the game did not get their pokedex entries deleted - but we now know that the starters will be in the wild, so it makes sense for them to have new pokedex entries in SV. Maybe that's why Shaymin never was datamined||

[harsh lion]

||Carbink, Kalos starters, Galar starters are already available in the game yes||

[velvet bobcat]

That's great I love carbink I can make a whole list of reasons carbink is awesome all within a limit of zero words

[vestal arch]

||I just think it's weird manaphy's not here to have take heart in the regular battle system||

[harsh lion]

||They just do not have dex entries because they aren't part of the Paldea dex - Dex entries being deleted in SV may mean they'll have new ones. The pastebin does not contain any legendary except Walking Wake and Iron Leaves, Pokémon that WOULD make sense to be in any of the DLC Pokédexes. SwSh re-introduced every legendary alongside a few mythicals and three starter trios, none of which had dex entries simply because they weren't part of the dex (how they got leaked is beyond me though)||

||All of those Pokémon - Walking Wake, Iron Leaves, every starter trio, Carbink - WILL have Pokédex entries in what I assume to be the second wave of the DLC because they'll be able to be found in the wild, no gimmick attached||

||The likes of Zapdos and Palkia will most likely return in the DLC as well, but as Raids, and lack Dex entries in the same vein that they do now, alongside the Starters that are in the game already, Carbink, and other HOME-exclusive mons||

||And since they lack Dex entries, their Dex entries have not been removed from the game's data, meaning they won't be included in any datamines because there's no way to know whether a legendary or mythical will be in the game until it's in the game||

||That explains why Shaymin was never leaked or datamined, but I'm not sure how many other mythicals we might get - how many did Crown Tundra introduce?||

[harsh lion]

||Seems to be Victini, Genesect, Diancie, Volcanion, for a total of four. And coincidentally, there are four Sinnoh mythicals not yet in SV: Shaymin, Darkrai, Manaphy, and Phione. Not that they have to add four but like YK YK||

||Overall thats a pretty good observation actually. The fact that shaymin was revealed yet not datamined means (to me) that every legendary's coming back (as they always do) and that we might get more mythicals in the DLC||

Also apparently Magearna was only added to swsh in Isle of Armor?

||Wonder if kitakami's gonna have one, HOME or otherwise||

[spice timber]

that was a Fun time :)

magearna and urshifu being added at the same time was actual hell

[spice timber]

the fact that we know shaymin's in makes me feel better about ||legendaries coming back, i was super worried that they wouldn't because of that dex datamine not having them unlike swsh and other people treating it as gospel||

[ivory prawn]

You know what
You KNOW that if they ever brought back evolution they would make new mega evolutions obviously
But just to be fucking annoying the new mega evolutions will be like +150 BST or some shit

[hot zenith]

||Heck if I know man I don't even know if she has a type||

[spice timber]

||i wonder why he's asking this specifically, lacey isn't really designed for one type||

maybe ||her ace gets something special||?

[spare hare]

i've seen ppl thinking ||she's related to clay bc of the gems in her little hairclips which is interesting||

[spice timber]

oh that's an interesting thought, ||it'd be nice to have a relative of a known character not look distinctly like them||

[spare hare]

although ||in terms of color scheme alone she seems much more like a psychic/fairy person||

||it is pretty funny that 3 of the 5 are literally just unova ground types though||

||it's always a tiny little guy or just a huge ass monster of a pokemon with these types of characters||

||then again i could punt excadrill so ||

[spice timber]

i'm gonna place my bets on ||chimecho, lacey seems like a mellow person on the surface||

bonus points if ||chimecho gets some kind of busted ass evo or something||

[tropic pollen]

He’s running out of topics

[spare hare]

ig we probably do "know" about all the new mons now

[spice timber]

||ogerpon + loyal three + poltchageist + evo + dipplin = 7 dlc1 mons
terapagos + 2 beasts + 2 swords + dipplin evo + archaludon + ??? = 8 dlc2 mons||

i forget, did we know about that ||last dlc2 mon||?

assuming the numbers are correct

[spare hare]

Latest khu tweet, ||perrin is either chasing down ogerpon or the blood moon riddle mon||

||if the latter this likely means poltchageist is a standalone then, at the very least for wave 1||

[spice timber]

huh, i have to assume ||blood moon mon, because presumably we already chase down ogerpon in the base game||

[torn ore]

||So we will search this Pokemon with Perrin in a place called the "Timeless Woods", which I would assume where we'll find Hisui mons regularly in the wild, judging from them having deleted DLC Pokedex entries. And if Khu's new tweet is to go by, the only Pokemon from Hisui that's fitting for a Blood Moon form is Ursaluna.... or a very evil looking Hisuian Zoroark lmao. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing a new form of a Hisui mon already. Curious to see what will make this Ursaluna form look different||

||Or maybe Khu is just fucking with us all and it's actually just a Shiny Ursaluna cus it's red. And the Blood Moon thing was just one of his trick riddles lmao||

[velvet bobcat]

||new ursaluna evo with a built-in-trick room||

[spice timber]

||perrin looking for the pokemon from the legend when she stumbles across an abandoned theme pizzeria in the middle of the woods||

[torn ore]

Uhhhh what is Centro cooking

https://fxtwitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1697319872764465605?t=t1YAKH57WI--nepuQCK1-A&s=19

[spice timber]

if the dlc is leaking for real, i'm surprised that they managed to get ahold of it this early

[torn ore]

Might be the same situation as last time? Where they got the Home update early somehow

[spice timber]

i hope centro asked for permission to leak this time

[torn ore]

||Ogerpon's face what?||

[spice timber]

wait huh?

where'd you hear that from?

[torn ore]

||ChicoEevee's Twitter. Unite dataminer. Maybe they're helping Centro datamine this stuff||

[spice timber]

ooooh

[spare hare]

they have leaked things in the past for main series too

[spice timber]

IOG

OH

||https://twitter.com/ElChicoEevee/status/1697321183165735081 ||

Eevee (@ElChicoEevee)

Twitter · Aug 31, 2023, 6:51 PM

[spare hare]

i have no idea where this would be coming from though

literally || 🤩 ||

[torn ore]

||Ai Hoshino||

[spare hare]

that emote makes way more sense for ogerpon than i thought

[torn ore]

Oh shit Khu did use that

[spare hare]

@ivory prawn

[torn ore]

I can't tell if that's from Home or Go. Looks like Go's style of rendering

[spice timber]

it defo looks like home

[torn ore]

WHAT THE FUCK

CHECK KAPHOTIC'S TWITTER

[harsh lion]

LMFAO

NO WAY

[spice timber]

HUH

[harsh lion]

NO WAY

NO WAY

NO WAY

[spare hare]

||URSALUNA BLOODMOON FORM||

[harsh lion]

NO WAY

[spice timber]

||https://twitter.com/Kaphotics/status/1697322619228606870 ||

Kurt (@Kaphotics)

Ursaluna - Bloodmoon Form
It crossed the sea and drifted ashore in a new land. Surviving in this place led it to take on a unique appearance and gain special powers.
This special Ursaluna can see in the dark with its left eye and protects itself with mud that is as hard as iron.

Twitter · Aug 31, 2023, 6:57 PM

WTF RAW?

[spare hare]

actually iirc that leak that pyoro said was mostly right did say

||there was a form of a pokemon that was not a shill mon||

[torn ore]

||FREDDY FAZBEAR REAL||

[spice timber]

WHY IS THIS LEAKING NOW

HOW TF DID A DLC LEAK

[spare hare]

also that's def not home

it's just the pokedex image

wild

||https://twitter.com/Kaphotics/status/1697323062172201042 ||

Kurt (@Kaphotics)

Sinistcha - Unremarkable/Masterpiece
It pretends to be tea, trying to fool people into drinking it so it can drain their life-force. Its ruse is generally unsuccessful.

Twitter · Aug 31, 2023, 6:58 PM

||sinistcha||

actually

[spice timber]

MORE

||https://twitter.com/ElChicoEevee/status/1697323083273474393 ||

Eevee (@ElChicoEevee)

Twitter · Aug 31, 2023, 6:58 PM

[spare hare]

i wonder if ||the 7 + 8 + 1 means that ||

||the "1" is the ursaluna form?||

bc it's not technically ||a new pokemon||

[harsh lion]

Sooooo

||Where do those come from||

||The masks||

[torn ore]

Doesn't Home also have the SV's Pokedex images? Are these all from Home?

[spare hare]

||the pokedex images themselves should just be from sv||

[spare hare]

but those particular renders ||at least the first 3 images, look like home renders||

the 4th one looks more like an ingame thing to me

also this means the new ||matcha line forms are called "unremarkable" and "masterpiece"||

[harsh lion]

so like

||sinistcha|| is the evo?

[spare hare]

uhhhhhh

maybe?

||might be an inverse thing||

||since they compared poltchageist to sinstea||

so yea ||sinistcha could be evo||

[spice timber]

i can't believe they looked at ||ursaluna and went "what if it was withered freddy"||

||https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1697324499241140336 ||
ingame pic of ||maskless ogerpon||

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks)

Ogerpon without mask

Likes

170

Twitter · Aug 31, 2023, 7:04 PM

it looks a lot better here

[torn ore]

||Yeah but Home has dedicated Pokedexes for each game iirc. And SV's section has the Dex photos that are right from the game itself||

[spare hare]

tbh i kind of hate how much more like ||fnaf this looks|| 😭

this thing is gonna be savage though

[spice timber]

YEAH IT'S SO GOOD

[harsh lion]

its so much more memeable

[torn ore]

||I can't check on my Home cus I haven't deposited a single thing from SV lmao||

[harsh lion]

||girlies wandering into the forest to get a pic of a cool pokemon and its like no fuck you youre getting jumpscared mauled||

[spare hare]

i thought it just had the actual pokedex entries, i don't think the pokedex images themselves are in home at all are they

granted i don't know all the intricacies of home in and out but i don't remember ever seeing that

[harsh lion]

if they are theyre only on switch also

well

i can check mobile home

i dont have anything i deposited myself Bc i cant but i have gen 9 mons in it

[spare hare]

@surreal vault ||feddy||

[velvet bobcat]

?????? WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING

||WHAT DO YOU MEAN FNAF IS REAL||

[torn ore]

I think they go on this section

[harsh lion]

bwuh its not letting me into home

[torn ore]

Here's PLA's which has the exact same Pokedex image from the game

[harsh lion]

its bc i changed the password for my nintendo acc

[tropic pollen]

Ohhhh my god

What

[surreal vault]

Who dares to wake me

[harsh lion]

and then it just wont let me log in again

[surreal vault]

WAITNLEAKS??????

[spare hare]

check the tweet i replied to

[surreal vault]

WTF WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM

[spare hare]

bro

you have no idea

i'm p sure all the new mons from wave 1 have leaked now lmfao

including forms

[harsh lion]

(there werent that many But)

give us text now

SURELY the abilities can leak

[spare hare]

if it really is home it should

[surreal vault]

WHY DOES ||URSALUNA HAVE A NEW FORM???????||

[harsh lion]

and if its not home then it also should

[surreal vault]

||WHAT THE HEEEEEEELLLLLL||

[harsh lion]

theyre going crazy theyre going batshit insane

[spare hare]

it's literally just

[harsh lion]

lmao

[spare hare]

||fnaf||

[harsh lion]

wait a sec

yall

||>Normal/Ghost||

[tropic pollen]

||WILLIAM AFTON WHAT DDI YOU DO||

[velvet bobcat]

||PENSIVE EMOJI MASK I CAN'T||

[harsh lion]

imagine

[surreal vault]

||OGREPON IS SO SKRUNKLY||

[torn ore]

||Hilarious that the Withered Ursaluna leaked within 24 hours of the new FNaF movie trailer||

[spare hare]

you're right, i just checked

i had no idea that was a thing in mobile so i just checked in my app and it uses the pokedex images from sv

so it is likely entirely a home leak

[harsh lion]

types and abilities when 😤

oh and moves

like

surely they can leak even

lvl up learnsets and stuff

||im VERY curious about the ogerpon masks||

||bc the thing kaphotics said makes it sound like its fire, water and steel. but those types shouldnt match the 3 toxic chain mons||

[tropic pollen]

||Me, in the Timeless Forest: wow, this place is rather unsettling. I hope no Massive Creature decides that i must be its next victim.
Fuyuhiko Fumikuma: https://youtu.be/pmuFOuh3QHs?si=0jx9PKVebu6JWejA (1:26) ||

[harsh lion]

||Perrin's new summer time job||

[surreal vault]

DADSFSFDGDDG

[spare hare]

||https://twitter.com/ElChicoEevee/status/1697324811981042043 ||

Eevee (@ElChicoEevee)

Mark~

Twitter · Aug 31, 2023, 7:05 PM

here's your ||1/100 chance||

[torn ore]

||So it's not just Galar getting forms, also Hisui.||

[runic prawn]

huh bye

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-fire-hades-mad-furious-gif-8036202

[runic prawn]

[ivory prawn]

||No way he's cute||

[tropic pollen]

||Im crying he literally has the golden freddy eye||

[spare hare]

||look at fnaf||

[spare hare]

DUDE I'M TELLING YOU

it's on purpose.

[torn ore]

||PLEASE HAVE A COOL SHINY||

[marble sand]

||shiny will be golden ofc||

[torn ore]

||That would be PEAK BEYOND PEAK||

[ivory prawn]

||Wtf King don't post nsfw outside the mod channels||

[harsh lion]

||they're just feet? smh||

[tropic pollen]

||do you think you can milk those||

[ivory prawn]

||WHEN DID GOLDEN FREDDY BECOME SANS||

[harsh lion]

?!

[surreal vault]

||Mod channel leak: you can post nsfw in it||

[ivory prawn]

||I actually feel like it looks more like a Pokemon than normal Ursaluna does to me lol||

[tropic pollen]

||So wait do you guys think this is a permanent/regional form or will we be able to change our current Ursalunas back and forth?||

||It kinda sounds like a “modern” version||

[ivory prawn]

||URSALUNA MORBING OUT???||

[tropic pollen]

||maybe we’ll get modern versions of Basculegion, Overqwil and Wyrdeer too, at some point||

[harsh lion]

||how does basculegion die more||

[tropic pollen]

||Die harder||

[torn ore]

||Is Sinistcha like a pre evolution. Poltchageast looks more powerful lmao||

[restive silo]

||omg that’s so cute||

[restive silo]

||fnaf||

[surreal vault]

Centro says ||the Ursa is Ground/Steel???||

[harsh lion]

||>Ability: Sand Rush||

imagine

[spice timber]

THEY'VE COME FOR OUR ||EXCADRILLS||

[marble sand]

||he IS fnaf after all||

[tropic pollen]

||its gonna be somth like tough claws||

[spare hare]

lowkey the description reads like

yet another ||regional form type idea they didn't want to actually label as a regional form lmao||

[tropic pollen]

No kidding

||i cant wait for the unique bulbapedia page on this||

|| https://twitter.com/elchicoeevee/status/1697327154931863738?s=46&t=k-C6kLPb1fmT5U2hey4hGA || hint for Shiny coloration of an already revealed Pokemon

Eevee (@ElChicoEevee)

Shiny dipplin be like

Twitter · Aug 31, 2023, 7:15 PM

[marble sand]

||Budder apple?||

[spare hare]

||piss apple||

[harsh lion]

PLEASE

PLEASE

PLEASE!

[torn saddle]

Hmm, should I look at the leaks or buy the dlc, decisions decisions

[marble sand]

https://tenor.com/view/why-not-both-why-not-take-both-gif-11478682

[torn saddle]

Fair point, both it is

[tropic pollen]

I do hope everything comes out in a steady stream

[spice timber]

||withered freddy ursaluna being ground/steel makes it even more of a fnaf reference||

[tropic pollen]

I really do not miss last leak season

Where leakers just. witheld information for shits and giggles

[harsh lion]

moves

moves leaked

[spice timber]

i'm defo gonna dip if story spoilers happen

MOVDS

[harsh lion]

||Blood Moon
The user unleashes the full brunt of its spirit from a full moon that shines as red as blood. This move can't be used twice in a row.

Matcha Gotcha
The user fires a blast of tea that it mixed. The user's HP is restored by up to half the damage taken by the target. This may also leave the target with a burn.

Syrup Bomb
The user sets off an explosion of sticky candy syrup,
which coats the target and causes the target's Speed stat to drop each turn for three turns.

Ivy Cudgel
The user strikes with an ivy-wrapped cudgel. This move's type changes depending on the mask worn by the user, and it has a heightened chance of landing a critical hit.||

[torn ore]

||URSALUNA DOES WHAT||

[harsh lion]

||>ursaluna gigaton hammer||

[tropic pollen]

||GIGA DRAIN THAT BURNS???||

[harsh lion]

ABILITIES

|| https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1697331736466587666 ||

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks)

New Abilities in The Teal Mask

• Mind's Eye (Bloodmoon Ursaluna)
  The Pokémon ignores changes to opponents' evasiveness, its accuracy can't be lowered, and it can hit Ghost types with Normal- and Fighting-type moves.

• Supersweet Syrup (Dipplin)
  A sickly sweet scent spreads…

Twitter · Aug 31, 2023, 7:33 PM

NO

NO

NO

||URSALUNA HAS SCRAPPY KEEN EYE||

[tropic pollen]

Wtf thats just better ||scrappy||

[torn saddle]

||is that, ursaluna?||

[arctic bobcat]

||we LOVE powercreep in this house||

[harsh lion]

||no spatk boost form and also two of them are objectively bad||

||ITS LITERALLY JUST WITHERED FREDDY||

[tropic pollen]

||Wait so isnt this just Intrepid Sword||

||or is it like a ruined boost||

[arctic bobcat]

||hell nah they made them anthro again||

[tropic pollen]

GOOD HEAVENS

Is this base colors????

[spare hare]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT ABILITY LMFAOOOO

[harsh lion]

man cmon

HOW does this make sense

[spare hare]

[tropic pollen]

||OMG AVATAR||

||A Xenoblade voice: “It’s the avatar!”||

[tropic pollen]

||So do you think it becomes Grass/X or Fairy/X?||

[harsh lion]

no clue at all

but this is

so so weird

cuz

||wtf are the types of the toxic chain 3 then||

||are they not poison????||

[torn saddle]

I’m completely lost, all i’ve seen is ||golden freddy and ogrepon being cute||

[spare hare]

Wait why do you say this

[harsh lion]

bc

we saw them using moves

and u tell me

||why a water/poison would use psychic||

[torn ore]

||So the number of new forms Khu hinted checks out||

[harsh lion]

||or a fire/poison would be seen using moonblast and air slash but not a fire or poison move||

[spare hare]

Are these ||confirmed the loyal three types?||

[harsh lion]

i GET they COULD possibly HAVE THOSE MOVES but itd be weird as fuck with those typings

[spare hare]

Bc which one of those mfs looks like ||a rock to you||

[harsh lion]

ok u know what thats true as fuk

[tropic pollen]

Oh taka i think ||those are the types of the Ogerpon masks||

[harsh lion]

yes

but like