Leaks for Pokémon

[spare hare]

wait this is just centro

where did they get the info from

[oak sandal]

||https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1628599765503016960?s=20 ||

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks)

@Seth_man It was posted by The Pokémon Company on Weibo

https://t.co/8nctCbjfF5

We’re guessing an international reveal is coming soon

Twitter · Feb 23, 2023, 3:36 AM

[spare hare]

yea i just found it

well this is neat ig

although sad it's not ||game related lol||

||pokemon animations|| like these are almost always fire though so i'm sure it'll be good

[oak sandal]

||feels weird to get another web series, as evolutions was just over a year ago||

[spare hare]

it's strange that there's no sign of ||galar or paldea (although maybe that one is too new)|| as well

||bc yea evolutions covered 1-8 already too lol||

[oak sandal]

||I'm pretty curious to see where this goes||

[harsh lion]

lmao i thought this

kinda underwhelming honestly

[arctic bobcat]

my first thought is that ||it's another animated series like Generations||

oh I'm late people already figured that out

[rough kelp]

??????

why is he, talking like a normal person

[harsh lion]

surprised you wouldnt comment on this tbh

[tropic pollen]

||Yveltal is also in the Flare Lab/Ultimate Weapon core||

[split swan]

I wonder if they will announce a new movie in the new continuity

Did Koko do enough to warrant a sequel

[oak sandal]

I would do literally anything for movies based on the events of the games, imaging stuff like the Ultra Necrozma fight fully imagined in the anime style

[oak sandal]

Well

||https://twitter.com/riddler_khu/status/1628787331758182400?s=46&t=zGwfAI_uTl7u90lMgp427g ||

Khu’s Fashionable Hat (@Riddler_Khu)

When you know what’s coming but have no good ideas for proper riddles, 🤣

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313

Twitter · Feb 23, 2023, 4:02 PM

[tropic pollen]

he ran ou tof steam lol

[arctic bobcat]

rip bozo

[oak sandal]

No more leaks, the reign of terror is over

[spice timber]

ngl, even though khu is a jerk, the way he's acting about this upcoming direct is getting me excited

[velvet bobcat]

Khu with no riddles is just Khu

and that's what we want the less

[runic prawn]

lol

[manic bane]

I have not been keeping up with this stuff

[oak sandal]

||https://twitter.com/Riddler_Khu/status/1630038240748253184?s=20 ||

Khu’s Fashionable Hat (@Riddler_Khu)

Riddle is on the way, hype, hype, hype🥵

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121

Twitter · Feb 27, 2023, 2:52 AM

oh boy

[arctic bobcat]

dies of cringe

[oak sandal]

I do not like that emoji

[red garden]

[oak sandal]

why post a riddle when the presents happens in like 12 hours

[spice timber]

he's gonna post it 10 minutes before the presents like what happened when steve was leaked for smash

[vestal arch]

and it'll be less comprehensible then whatever the fuck kingdom hearts is doing

[rough kelp]

🙏 I hope his insiders give him misinfo once so he lose credibility forever

[marble sand]

is this the dude that called his followers puppies

[spare hare]

Yes

Spoiling the presents 8 hours before it airs has got to be the lamest thing ever

[red garden]

Khu calls everything a puppy

[velvet bobcat]

he's used "puppy" so much that the word pretty much already lost all of it's value

[velvet bobcat]

From two days ago

Very interesting last bit there

[surreal vault]

Oh shit

[oak sandal]

Oh damn that's like, dead accurate

this is interesting

||https://twitter.com/centroleaks/status/1630231100663681025?s=46&t=PX49KuV2QB4kBNrVpWXT4A ||

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks)

The DLC takes place in a new "region" called Kitakami, outside Paldea.

So forget the current map (and the northeastern unexplored side).

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Twitter · Feb 27, 2023, 3:39 PM

||Kalos theory might still stand?||

[marble sand]

I was like "people already predicted blue turtle lol nice try" and then I read everything else

I was like Ohh

[oak sandal]

I'm interested to see where this goes

[spice timber]

oh this wasn't referring to the actual contents of the presents

this was referring to the stuff we saw in the presents

so it makes more sense now i guess?

[spice timber]

OH FUCK

apparently, in the update that added walking wake and iron leaves, they straight-up just left evidence of all the returning dlc mons in the game

like what happened with swsh

[harsh lion]

lmao what

post

[spice timber]

https://twitter.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1630244702661361665?s=20

Matt (@mattyoukhana_)

Like with SWSH 1.2.0, in SV 1.2.0, GF have deleted Pokédex entries for a lot of Pokémon, instead of stubbing them.

Included in the list are all of the currently confirmed returning Pokémon for DLC, like Yanma.

Here's the list I've compiled: https://t.co/ExlKHOJu6P

Twitter · Feb 27, 2023, 4:33 PM

||MINIOR||

[harsh lion]

|| https://twitter.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1630245185408909313 ||

Matt (@mattyoukhana_)

Notably, all of the starter Pokémon from past games are here, except for Unova (minus Samurott which is already in SV). Also no Legendaries.

This list could very well be all of the returning Pokémon in DLC, but it could also change. Seems like too good a coincidence, I think.

Twitter · Feb 27, 2023, 4:35 PM

[spice timber]

notably, no ||legendaries or unova starters||, but i guess that can change

[harsh lion]

😐

isnt this deadass every gen 1 mon

||Lol incin lol incin||

[surreal vault]

||No regis||

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-death-gif-15495232

[restive silo]

This is so sad

||my bfs favorite mons are all the regis he’s gonna die||

[spice timber]

don't ||regieleki and regidrago|| still exist in sv at least?

[harsh lion]

||starters being back means the game is bad now||

[tropic pollen]

||Wow there’s really only 3 kalosian lines here||

[finite ocean]

YESSSSSSSSSS

Worth the money now

[velvet bobcat]

||aegislash L||

[tropic pollen]

O wait, ||no Carbink||

Weird

[spice timber]

i think that's just because ||it's already programmed into the game, so it doesn't need to be scrubbed||

[spare hare]

Are ppl gonna ignore the fact they said ||"graphics enhancement patch for the new switch model"||

The way it's written sounds like it means ||a new system||

Although they could be referring to ||a new special edition or something||

[ivory prawn]

||Working on a graphics enhancement patch for the new switch models though so special edition doesn't make sense||

[spare hare]

That was my point in the first place

[north fjord]

||Switch Pro finally real??????||

[arctic bobcat]

||oh good finally years of waiting for a switch model will come true and i can finally mod my 2018 switch||

[spare hare]

Mfw this might have dropped a bombshell

[tropic pollen]

Do keep in mind its machine translation

So be careful

[spare hare]

Yea that's why I posted the mitigating

Maybe just a funny ||special edition||

Bc I don't want to spread "omg ||new switch confirmed!!||"

[oak sandal]

||no latias. I am literally dead inside ||

[tropic pollen]

||none of the newly added legendaries are in the dex either so they have a chance ||

[spare hare]

||FURRET IN THE DLC LIST LFG||

||and porygon||

[tropic pollen]

||HOLLY LIVES||

[spare hare]

wait so does this cover eveerything that hasn't been in a switch game yet

i'll check ig

oh well ig ||immediately no bc he said no unova starters were in except oshawott line||

||no patrat, elemental monkeys, or furfrou either||

[oak sandal]

[candid nebula]

||CUTIEFLYYYY||

[velvet bobcat]

||No celebi nor jirachi???||

L L L L L L L L

[oak sandal]

||legends celebi confirmed||

[slow garnet]

||YO MY BOY PIKIPEK||

[finite ocean]

|| now I get what they meant by Atlantis||

[shell sand]

||mfer really be like yeah we're selling the pokedex to you||

[spare hare]

||tbf if it's like swsh you don't need the dlc to actually have access to the returning pokemon||

||i mean yeah you can't find them in the wild ig, but you can always trade, join raids, or just bring over your own guys||

[velvet bobcat]

Ain't no way they're leaving those skrunkly mythicals behind

I am devastated

[spare hare]

||it's possible this isn't the comprehensive list so could still hold out hope||

[velvet bobcat]

I'll take that copium

[spice timber]

i really doubt that they'll ||just leave out the legendary mechanics they've had since 2015||

[soft lava]

|| the dynamax adventure legendaries didn't have any pokedex entries so I think the pokedex is a comprehensive list of all available mons ||

[open cedar]

If that's actually the case, I am deadass going to throw a chair out the window.

I genuinely can't take this anymore. I am in sheer agony.

[vestal arch]

||deadass I don't see beedrill and I don't care enough to check the other missing ones||

[oak sandal]

Everyone is here!

||Except Beedril.||

[hot zenith]

Yeah, no, it's not every Gen 1 mon

||Everything from Caterpie to Fearow is not there and they're not in the base game either||

||Same for the Nidos||

||and for Zubat...||

[north fjord]

||When was the last regional dex to include Beedrill?||

[spare hare]

Holy fuck ||that would make this the first gen to not have zubat line in any of its dexes||

[spare hare]

||xy||

[north fjord]

||Damn Beedrill fans not winning||

[spare hare]

Well ig if you dont count ||remakes like lgpe||

[rough kelp]

can anyone post the list in image form or sth because it doesn't load for me

[soft lava]

|| https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/11edm5t/all_confirmed_pokémon_coming_to_sv_dlc_according/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button ||

Someone posted this. It work?

[rough kelp]

works

WAIT

||Exeggutor is back. so Alolan Exeggutor is also back. funny tera hat on top of palm tree ||

[spare hare]

||walking around with alolan exeggutor in this game||

[rough kelp]

||left shedinja at swsh only to bring back midbeat and illumid||

||cinccino||

||technician loaded dice cinccino||

I am glad ||they are re-adding like, counterpart pokemon to existing one in SV. it's so weird seeing lilligant without whimsicott, gothitelle without reuniclus||

||that said they added trevenant and no gourgeist(understandable concerning the new size mechanic vs its size mechanic)||

[north fjord]

||Wonder if they’ll combine their mechanics somehow||

||Have Gourgeist be the one Pokémon whose stats are affected by its size||

||That or they make the crazy decision in a future Gen to make size affect every Pokémon’s stats.||

||Natures 2||

[rough kelp]

when the ||Jumbo Mark Blissey has 500 health||

[rough kelp]

|| wait wdym porygon-z is back||

|| the choice specs normal tera hyper beam||

[velvet bobcat]

||https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1631026702770905096?s=20||

Same guy from before

Kinda crazy stuff going on here

||boy I really hope this "2024 DLC" is not exclusive to this new console||

[rough kelp]

||2024 DLC featuring Arven Epilogue ||

[velvet bobcat]

This could be an imposter tho

[rose junco]

they'd probably have to be really dedicated to do this in this instance

[spare hare]

Fucking christ ||terastal forms||

[split swan]

||he also claims that the second wave is called Hexagon, which could just be a codename but still||

[spare hare]

Huh

He never says that

||if this clarification is legit then he's saying the opposite||

[spice timber]

||terastal forms||

https://tenor.com/view/nooooo-it-cant-be-ninjago-zane-gif-25290061

[split swan]

I dont know why people ||don't like that concept||

||Terastal is lacking such spiciness it feels a bit more bland without any uniqueness||

||Even thought Maxing was despised peoples still liked G Maxes||

[spice timber]

the reason is because of how ||the forms we get tend to die with the mechanic's removal, and also because it usually ends up with mons like pikachu/eevee/kanto starters getting forms shoehorned in||

though i wouldn't be surprised if ||this mechanic only applied to terapagos and ogerpon||

[split swan]

fair

||think they should be called back more||

I liked how Roaring Moon and Iron Valiant called back to the megas

I hope future pokemon variants did that

[harsh lion]

I hope so tbh

||I dont see a reason why there should be new designs or whatever for something as simple as changing a type||

[north fjord]

Regional variants/convergents already do that

[split swan]

I kinda expected like pokemon to get armor when they teranize

not purely a design change but atleast an extra layer of interestingness to the mechanic

sure we got the hats but imagine if they also made unique hats or gave crystal armors to certain pokemon when they teranize

well maybe they will learn for the next mechanic

[manic bane]

hey so whats a ||terastal form||

i have NOT been keeping up with these leaks at all

[harsh lion]

its justs omething that came up in a leak

||that some pokemon might have a new form when terastallizing||

||i dont buy it and if its true im fully expecting it to be exclusive to ogerpon and terapagos||

[manic bane]

i see

[spice timber]

y'know, it's really interesting that (not leak-related) both ogerpon and terapagos have tera jewel stuff directly in their designs

i don't think we've ever had legendaries this caught-up in a regional gimmick before

there was no legendary for mega stones, necrozma is more of a general being of light than a strict z-crystal legendary and eternatus is basically deoxys but more evil and gmax power is a side effect of it

[harsh lion]

i forgot the specific lore but some object related to z-moves is made of necrozmas body parts that got torn off by ppl

sparkling stones

[spare hare]

Eternatus is literally the source of dmax but somehow it's a "side effect" lol

That boi is basically dmaxed himself

[spice timber]

oh wait

yeah that was not a good observation on my part

[spare hare]

I'm curious what the jewel parts on ogerpon mean

It looks like they're connected to the mask

[spice timber]

i guess it's like, does eternatus forcefully make things dynamax intentionally or is it a side effect of it existing?

[manic bane]

thats what the point of the mask is

[spice timber]

i bet the mask is gonna be really powerful, but ogerpon just uses it to do petty stuff like steal food

[manic bane]

wait the mask itself isnt the pokemon

[spare hare]

No there's a guy behind it

They hint at his face in some of the art

So it looks like a separate thing here

[manic bane]

oh sick i never knew

majoras mask

[spice timber]

it's like marshadow + skull kid

[spare hare]

Really unique design for pokemon, I bet this thing will have some sick animations

[harsh lion]

oh my god it's solrock

[manic bane]

so what if a human wears it

[spice timber]

i wanna see it ingame really badly

it might become a top 10 mon for me if its animations are cool

[marble sand]

||i don't like it but I feel like it's definitely gonna happen. at least with the turtle anyway. just seems like something they'll do similar to how they did z moves and gmax||

[harsh lion]

100% agree

[spice timber]

there's not a snowball's chance in hell that ||terapagos doesn't get a second form, every third legendary we've ever gotten since gen 4 has gotten one eventually||

hopefully it's cooler than ||calyrex literally just having blue clouds when it dynamaxes||

[spare hare]

considering ||it's supposedly the source of tera it would be a missed opportunity if it didn't interact with tera in some unique way||

[soft lava]

|| how its shown in the scarlet/violet book, it has a crown that isn't apart of its design. I'd just assumed that was a new unique tera jewel ||

[marble sand]

could even argue rayquaza got a second form (just not in the gen he was introduced lol)

[split swan]

curious if Reshiram and Zekrom will get anything in the gen 5 remakes

if they do then that means HoOh and Luigia will be the only box legends without a mode change ability

then again one can say that they already are if one counts the glowing forms for Resheep and Zeekrom

[harsh lion]

yveltal and xerneas

xerneas does have two forms however that is stupid as fuck and we are not counting it as two forms

like yeah uhhhh i love it when my xerneas uhhhh Is blue. Never happens in battle

BEHOLD

AN ALTERNATE FORM

i consider koraidon and miraidon different though because they're #silly and the game kinda treats the non-apex build / ultimate mode forms as forms even during gameplay

[split swan]

oh forgot the gen 6 guys then again they have sleeping forms

Xerneaus becomes the tree of life and Yvealtal turns into the cocoon of destruction

[harsh lion]

then reshiram and zekrom have their respective orbs no?

[spare hare]

Also the pokedex specifies their entries as apex build and ultimate mode too (implying other forms) and the ride forms have party sprites

Compared to stuff like solgaleo and lunala

But xerneas has got two forms sorry fam...

Even if neutral mode is the most boring shit ever

[harsh lion]

OK i still think xerneas is stupid as hell and it still means yveltal has only one form

Also if we count solgaleo and lunala as having alternate forms my epic take is that reshiram and zekrom do as well (the fusions)

[spare hare]

Nah that's kyurem

I mean the very temporary forms

When they use their signatures

[harsh lion]

yeah ik thats what u mean

but its not what I mean and i am RIGHTTTTTT

[soft lava]

I guess zygarde had alternate forms. Probably the main ones would have something more, just locked behind the unknowing door that is Z version

[harsh lion]

or rather I dont think its necessary for reshiram and zekrom to have alternate forms or whatever because they are pretty big parts of another pokemons alternate form and you cant use them after you fuse them unless you have another reshiram/zekrom

[spare hare]

Gen 5 remakes: teravolt and turboblaze get buffed

There's your box legend changes

[harsh lion]

finally they ignore full metal body and shadow shield

[spare hare]

Unova sweep

[harsh lion]

This will surely make Reshiram a good pokemon

[shell sand]

why did dialga and palkia get anything in the remakes

[split swan]

IDK maybe they kinda always considered it

[shell sand]

i dont think zekrom and reshiram will get anything

[red garden]

Unless they somehow do something with kyurem (Original dragon or something idk) I don't think that would happen.

[split swan]

I do have a feeling they may have kyruem fuse with other pokemon

[shell sand]

if its the remake its just not gonna have anything they'll probably do it in legends 2

[split swan]

that is moreso what I mean

[red garden]

Isn't that what they did with the gen4 legends too?

Bdsp they didn't get anything but in legends palkia and dialga got their origin forms

[shell sand]

ya so its not gonna be in the remake :P

[red garden]

Yeaahh. It also depends on what they do when the time comes for gen 5 to get a remake/legends

[rough kelp]

||wait, shiftry is confirmed that means you actually can make a full grass/dark team in SV||

[manic bane]

all this talk about kyurem got me thinking about that one paradox varient of it thats literally just the original dragon

yeah this one

[red garden]

That literally wouldn't make sense as a paradox form tho. Atleast not like that

[manic bane]

its cool to think about though

speaking of which can someone remind me how paradox forms work

||apparently they aren't actually just from the past/future or something?||

[surreal vault]

||They're cryptids brought to life, presumably by Terapagos||

[manic bane]

oh okay

[spice timber]

yeah, basically ||the power of tera crystals/terapagos can bring stuff from imagination to reality, and the professors used that to make the tabloid cryptids in the scarlet/violet books real||

[manic bane]

ahhh

guess that explains this

[split swan]

It’s left ambiguous if the ||paradoxes were mage from imagination or if they are from alternative realities||

I like to think || the latter since it feels like they may have actually been around during Heath’s time||

[soft lava]

|| I think imagined mainly just due to this journal entry ||

|| although the one in game is definitely different than this if course since it's based off a reality... but I feel like the alternative reality theory came from the type change thing, but seeing the typing themes in terapagos's shell makes me think its something to do with that ||

|| also, just having another look at this journal, and it talks about the ferocity of pokemon, when the paradox mons are referred to as creatures and objects instead, meaning that that might not have been what they referred to. ||

[spare hare]

Deleted dex entries (likely showing returning pokemon)
https://pastebin.com/vLvxYH7z

[spare hare]

I thought this would have been pinned already but it hasn't so I'm doing it now for easy reference

||still no miltank||

[tropic pollen]

||With 476 mons in the base game (including transfer only) + 223 from this list, we could potentially see more than 700 mons in this game||

[spare hare]

Is that including the new guys from the presents

[tropic pollen]

||yea 476 includes Lizard Dog and Robot Deer||

||i say "over 700" cuz who knows how many legendaries they'll give us lol, new or old||

[spice timber]

assuming these are just dex entries, there's a decent chance that ||old legendaries are still returning, because those traditionally don't get new dex entries in the regional dex||

so it'd be something like

[tropic pollen]

yea

i need to see how many of my past teams survive this full dex

[spice timber]

||476 mons in the base game + 223 returning mons in the collective dlc dexes + the 5 newly revealed legendaries + 59 returning legendaries assuming all the ones from swsh are back too (62 if including the galarian birds) + whatever else they decide to bring back||

[tropic pollen]

||sheesh thats almost 75%||

[spice timber]

that'd equal ||766 mons total in the game||

and like for comparison, usum (the last game with the full national dex) had 807 mons in it if you included transfer-exclusives

wait shit i forgot the ||ultra beasts||

[spare hare]

ftr

[spice timber]

||766 + 11 ubs = 777 total mons||

[spare hare]

the website says "over 230 returning pokemon"

||that list isn't 230||

so presumably ||the legends will be in like they usually are||

[tropic pollen]

this could include some of the mons already present in the code

[tropic pollen]

honestly could be worse but it still feels like ripping families apart

[spare hare]

ig that's fair

[tropic pollen]

||my poor B2 and Sword team||

[spice timber]

i mean aren't the only like non-legendary mons ||the other two kanto starters, the galar starters and carbink||?

[spare hare]

||actually this list also includes the hisui mons which were listed as transfer only originally||

so there's some significant overlap

[spice timber]

oh right that's true

though that'd imply that ||they're required for dex completion, so presumably you can get all of them ingame||?

[spare hare]

i'm guessing they'll be in the dlc naturally somewhere yeah

i feel like this list can't match up to actual dex entries bc usually the other starters don't get dex entries in a regional dex outside their home region

[spice timber]

me when i'm traveling in the dlc and i find peak

[spare hare]

and we see stuff like ||the hoenn starters|| in here

[tropic pollen]

does the Paldea dex not have an entry for hisuian Zoroark?

[spare hare]

but i also don't think they'd go without releasing legendaries

[spare hare]

no

[tropic pollen]

what!!!1

[spice timber]

they could easily just add a dex entry for it in the dlc

[tropic pollen]

oh wait thats the same for other regional forms

like Wooper

[spice timber]

like walking wake and iron leaves don't have dex entries either and they're brand new mons

[spare hare]

tauros gets one though

for some reason

lol

[tropic pollen]

lolwut

[spice timber]

did g-slowpoke have a dex entry in swsh before ioa dropped?

[tropic pollen]

wow i thought they would be different considering Squakabilly gets eight fucking entries

Parakeet difference i guess

[soft lava]

Mightve been intended to be in

[tropic pollen]

🦜

[spare hare]

don't think so no

it wasn't in the galar dex

[spice timber]

dex entries for 3-segment dudunsparce vs dex entries for squawkabilly colors

[spice timber]

so i'd presume this is a similar scenario

where the new teaser/transfer only stuff gets properly implemented later

wake/leaves are technically event-only rn, but the website says they'll be non-event later

[tropic pollen]

Game Freak when they scrub Crobat for important Parakeet lore

[marble sand]

oh fuck

||incineroar is back||

[open cedar]

~~Kid named Flabebe line ~~

[rough kelp]

they should give vivillon 19 dex entry but only change is a subtle hint at the end telling you what region has them

[tender radish]

friend compiled a list of pokemon trapped in pokemon home (cannot be imported into the switch games) following this dex entry leak:
||> Spinda*

Snivy
Servine
Serperior

Tepig
Pignite
Emboar

Patrat
Watchog

Pansage, Pansear and Panpour
Simisage, Simisear and Simipour

Furfrou

Rattata (Alolan)*
Raticate (Alolan)*||

[spare hare]

What's wrong with ||a-rattata line||

[tropic pollen]

||are Alolan ratatas not able to be sent to BDSP?||

[hot zenith]

||Apparently not||

||Bulbapedia seems to agree||

[spare hare]

||Bdsp doesn't have any regional forms||

[tropic pollen]

O huh

[hot zenith]

||What I'm more concerned about is how Rattata is the only Alolan form not in SwoShi||

[spare hare]

But what I don't get is why is ||alolan geodude line not in here when it's not in any of the switch games besides lgpe||

[hot zenith]

||Since there was some sidequest where you could get Alolan formes||

[spare hare]

Just like ||Alolan rattata||

[hot zenith]

ooh yeah you're right

that needs to be added

[tropic pollen]

||well Geodude is confirmed for scarvio DLC at least||

[spare hare]

Ohh that explains it then

[hot zenith]

Oh

Okay

||If the deleted dex entries leak is accurate, then Rattata is deconfirmed for ScarVio DLC too||

[spare hare]

Wait so ||can you not put alolan rattata into lgpe then

Or is that why the asterisk is there||

[hot zenith]

||Spinda's in BDSP but only as a swarm so...||

[tender radish]

||LGPE doesn't accept transfers from past games||

||so an a-rattata brought from SM/USUM would be trapped in home||

[spare hare]

sad

what a weird exception lmao

for it to be on that list i mean

[tender radish]

||a-rattata/raticate from LGPE though would be able to be sent back to LGPE just fine iirc, since mons of LGPE origin only get blocked if they get sent to galar / sinnoh / hisui||

[spare hare]

||when all the other regional forms are in now one way or another||

also they're cowards for ||not putting furfrou in||

[tender radish]

||which i feel can be easily fixed if they wanted to (by just having home store the LGPE data and revert it when brought back to LGPE, like they do for BDSP) but i do not think they care lol||

[spare hare]

honestly ||i know it would be a gen early but i wonder if this actually means we're getting unova games this gen||

we don't really know what else they could do for more games this gen bc of dlc

[tender radish]

||with how many unova mons are missing i see it as a possibility||

||last time we got remakes 2 gens in a row was FRLG and then HGSS i think||

||which is why people were shitting their pants expecting hoenn for gen 5 but they just skipped it lol||

[hot zenith]

||I kinda assume that every 2 gens is the pattern for remakes but idk really||

[tender radish]

||when the patterns are meaningless!||

[spare hare]

hoenn confirmed...

[hot zenith]

||Also can you explain Spinda to me?||

[spare hare]

||lgpe isn't a traditional remake but that exists too ig||

so ig they can just do whatever the hell they want

[tender radish]

||they fucked up how spinda's spot generation works in BDSP and spinda's spot placements are invented in the x/y positions||

[spare hare]

||ilca funny||

[hot zenith]

ohh

ouc

[tender radish]

||so presumably to maintain consistency with spinda's spots from older gens, transferring a spinda from past gens is blocked by bdsp||

[hot zenith]

I'm leaving the typo

[spare hare]

also wtf meeper in the sv leak thread i just realized

[tender radish]

||nincada is also blocked because it falsely triggers BDSP's clone check which is very funny||

[hot zenith]

Well yeah, Meeper beat SV, what do you expect

[tender radish]

||but it can be brought to galar just fine so nincada isn't in HOME hell||

[hot zenith]

lmao

[tender radish]

IM ONLY HERE UNTIL WE GET THE BIG LEAKS THEN I'M OUT

[spare hare]

welcome meeper

[tender radish]

||i am shocked that wailmer isn't gonna be in the dlc (from what it looks like right now)||

||> This species left the ocean and began living on land a very long time ago. It seems to be closely related to Wailmer.||

||like it is literally namedropped in cetoddle's dex entry||

[spare hare]

||they're cowards for not wanting to even touch the funny overworld wailord||

[soft lava]

|| I mean, they touched it. Just the once, though.
Pokemon ranger flashbacks tho ||

[tender radish]

list of all possible Complete ribbon masters post dlc because im normal (asterisk = only confirmed via datamine)

Can get every ribbon:
||Golduck
Magneton/Magnezone
Scyther/Scizor/Kleavor
Chansey/Blissey
Heracross
Sudowoodo
Sneasel/Weavile
Ralts/Kirlia/Gardevoir/Gallade
Snorunt/Glalie/Froslass
Swinub/Piloswine/Mamoswine
Rhydon/Rhyperior*
Electabuzz/Electivire*
Magmar/Magmortar*
Snorlax*
Duskull/Dusclops/Dusknoir*||

Can get every ribbon starting from their debut game:
||Shinx/Luxio/Luxray
Combee/Vespiquen
Gible/Gabite/Garchomp
Drifloon/Drifblim
Bronzor/Bronzong
Riolu/Lucario
Croagunk/Toxicroak
Stunky/Skuntank
Hippopotas/Hippowdon
Spiritomb
Rotom
Shellos/Gastrodon
Snover/Abomasnow
Happiny
Bonsly
Munchlax*
Rufflet/Braviary/H-Braviary
Bergmite/Avalugg/H-Avalugg
Goomy/Sliggoo/Goodra/H-Sliggoo/H-Goodra
Petilil/Lilligant/H-Lilligant
Rowlet/Dartrix/Decidueye/H-Decidueye
Every Hisuian forme and evolution
Every Generation 9 Pokémon||

this is working off a lot of assumptions, namely that the hisui ribbon is actually going to be given to pokemon that had a photo taken in hisui

[north fjord]

Magneton Moment

[north fjord]

Based on what was said in the main chat ||God what if the supposed Tera forms can do just that.||

||They can terastalize into dual typings||

[spare hare]

||if getting certain tera types was hell before||

||although actually if there are specific tera forms they'd likely have to be tied to specific types right||

[north fjord]

||Most definitely||

[harsh lion]

||i hope its only an option for the tera event raid pokemon so charizard can have dual tera dragon fire and greninja has dual tera poison dark||

[north fjord]

||I imagine Tera exclusive forms would play into the type changing quite a bit, with them being completely different from that they would be||

||Grass/Water Charizard||

[spice timber]

||delta forms real||

[spare hare]

i've seen theories that ||the super sentai type masks we see in the live action part of the trailer could actually represent unique tera forms for the three heroes that are basically powered up forms they take when they're being heroic||

||which would be a neat parallel to ogerpon donning its own mask for whatever it does||

||and we do see what looks like tera crystals on ogerpon's mask||

these are the ||masks for the three heroes||

(i just pulled this from google which is why rei and akari are randomly there)

[harsh lion]

holy fuck it's Akari from Pokémon

[split swan]

Funny how the colors line up with Don Brothers

Except for the ||dog mask but green and black have been associated with one another anyways||

[hot zenith]

Me looking at the deleted dex entries leak and then looking back at ||the mention of Blaziken in the Pokemon chat||

[surreal vault]

We'll see

We'll see

[hot zenith]

also, I kinda hope the DLC mons get cool pictures in the dex like the others

but realistically we may not

idk why I sent that here but oh well

[spare hare]

Maybe with a dlc dex

Actually I wonder

If there are pokemon already in the base game in dlc dexes and they still have dex pics

Wouldn't they technically need new dex pics, at least for teal mask, since it's not in paldea

And it would be weird to have the same dex pics taken in paldea for pokemon in kitakami

[split swan]

I wonder what more will lie with the DLC

if we will get more convergents or regional variants

we already got new paradoxes via the events

I do hope we get more convergents atleast

since unlike regional variants this is the first time they have done convergent species

[soft lava]

They did very few regionals, so I wouldn't be suprised if we got a g slowpoke equivalent.
I would like to see more convergent mons too, but that seems to be a new "form" gimmick moving forward when there's new gens.

[split swan]

I hope so

[tender radish]

why are ||the starters|| even on the deleted pokedex entries list

||i assume these are pokemon that have dex entries but the starters shouldn't have any unless they're catchable||

||and the legendaries like lugia who we know are in the game aren't on the list||

||so this feels. Somewhat incomplete to me||

[spare hare]

i'm not sure

do you remember if all the swsh dlc mons had deleted dex entries too

[harsh lion]

||i dont even think this is 100% accurate because hoenn's starters were very arguably catchable in ct but dont have dex entries||

[spare hare]

even the ones who weren't in the isle/crown tundra dex

[tender radish]

||there were some like keldeo who didnt have viewable dex entries in game but were viewable in HOME||

[harsh lion]

||also did bulbasaur and squirtles evolines have dex entries in game||

[spare hare]

||bulbasaur and squirtle were part of isle dex tho||

weren't they

[soft lava]

New paradox forms are definitely possible as well. Some people think || that there will be other paradoxes from the two trios as well, but from the leaks, its pretty clear that its specifically paradox suicune and virizion would be the imagined pokemon ||

[spare hare]

yeah they were

i feel like it would be important to look up like

||the hoenn starters yeah||

||bc they were in the dlc but not in the isle or tundra dex||

[soft lava]

They could always be available like through the a-diglet-type game for the isle of armor

[spare hare]

swsh had this kind of leak too

i just do not remember if pokemon not in the isle/tundra dexes but still in the dlc were in that list or not

[tender radish]

idk if they were in swsh's leaked list but ||hoenn starters do not have a dex entry in swsh||

[spare hare]

ig i could scroll down mattyoukhana's twitter...

[tender radish]

for some reason though ||bulbasaur and squirtle do as theyre part of the IoA dex, and charmander does as its part of the base game dex||

||i guess bc the hoenn starters were dynamax adventures exclusive||

[spare hare]

it must have been before isle dlc

when that leak happened

i'll just operate off that for now

[soft lava]

|| yea, same as the legendaries ||

[spare hare]

https://twitter.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1320446672376229888

Matt (@mattyoukhana_)

dab #PokemonSwordShield #NintendoSwitch

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Twitter · Oct 25, 2020, 7:26 PM

i saw this while scrolling down

[tender radish]

||the alola starters have dex entries but theyre only viewable in HOME lol||

DAB

[spare hare]

why the fuck did he retweet a billion things from 2018 here

I'M JUST TRYING TO GET TO EARLY 2020

oh wtf i hit the very beginning

https://twitter.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1236048557691396096

Matt (@mattyoukhana_)

Bruh #PokemonMysteryDungeonDX #NintendoSwitch

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Twitter · Mar 6, 2020, 9:58 PM

meeper cameo

[tender radish]

No way

[tropic pollen]

interesting

[tender radish]

ok this is the removed dex entries list from swsh

i can only find the one for CT though

notably ||yeah the hoenn starters ARE here even though they lack dex entries in swsh||

[tropic pollen]

one of the remaining mysteries of Pokemon i still wonder about is that CT also had a Victini encounter listed in there, but wasn't actually in?

[tender radish]

annndd here's the isle of armor thing here https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/17/list-105-returning-pokemon-pokemon-sword-shield-isle-armor-dlc-leaked-datamine-12866494/

i wish i could link to a tweet or something but metro.co.uk clearly isnt a fan of crediting beyond just saying the name of who dug it up

hey wait a minute why is metro even covering this anyways

isn't it a tabloid for boomers

[tropic pollen]

looks like they have a Game Central tab for whatever reason

lol love island

[spare hare]

plus ||all the legendaries that are dmax adventure only||

sussy

[tender radish]

BUT THEN ||WHY ARENT THE LEGENDS WE KNOW ABOUT IN THE SV ONE||......

GRAHHHHHHHH

[spare hare]

https://twitter.com/abcboy101/status/1274355975760351234

abcboy (@abcboy101)

So GF has basically confirmed the Pokémon they plan to add in The Crown Tundra with the dex entries they left out (+/- Mewtwo, Mew, Cobalion, Terrakion, and Virizion, which are already available but not with dex entries) https://t.co/NyhNVG8VPq

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Twitter · Jun 20, 2020, 2:58 PM

apparently it was... abcboy?

[tropic pollen]

||i'd be surprised if we get dex entries for legendaries again, pleasantly surprised tho||

[tender radish]

OHHHH OK SO THERE IS PRECEDENT

||mewtwo, mew and the musketeers arent in there bc they're already in the game||

[tropic pollen]

https://twitter.com/johannesking16/status/1274368698925678592?s=20 good reply btw

@johannesking16 (@johannesking16)

@abcboy101 So 9 out of the 10 most popular pokemon are or will be in SWSH and they're leaving out number 1? the injustice is unreal.

10. Gengar
11. Gardevoir
12. Rayquaza
13. Garchomp
14. Sylveon
15. Umbreon
16. Charizard
17. Mimikyu
18. Lucario
19. ....

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Twitter · Jun 20, 2020, 3:49 PM

great gif

wait ||were Mewtwo and Mew already in SwSh by the time of IoA or were they included in the pre-dlc Home list||

[spare hare]

https://www.ign.com/wikis/pokemon-sword-shield/Transferable_Pokemon_List

you could transfer them via home before the dlc

[harsh lion]

||iirc they were transfer only. or at least Mew was||

[tropic pollen]

ah yea i remember this list

[spare hare]

thank you ign article from early 2020

[tender radish]

https://www.serebii.net/scarletviolet/transferonly.shtml here's that list for SV

[spare hare]

maybe it's just too early to tell for the 2nd wave

[tropic pollen]

||https://twitter.com/Kaphotics/status/1630750072735678464?s=20 ||this seems a little odd

Kurt (@Kaphotics)

New strings and structures added to the Scarlet/Violet 1.2.0 update hint at something interesting. Inside the dlc.dat text file, we see lines about receiving DLC items, apparel, and even Pokémon.

Full English text: https://t.co/V4p5h4UpcH

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Twitter · Mar 1, 2023, 2:01 AM

[tender radish]

now my first thought is ||why is rowlet on the leaked dex entries list despite already being in base game||

[tropic pollen]

||doesn't this destroy soft resetting for gift pokemon||

[spare hare]

||they could be adding the hisui forms natively||

[tender radish]

||oh thats been destroyed since gen 8||

[tropic pollen]

oh ok cool

[tender radish]

||mystery gifts are received immediately instead of from a deliveryman so if the nature sucks u gotta make a new save file lol||

[spare hare]

||stuff like the hisui evos are there too even though they're listed in transfer data rn as well||

||so there might be some gift npc like the a-diglett guy handing out hisui forms maybe||

[tropic pollen]

||well SwSh has mints too right||

[spare hare]

||or there's some bullshit where you can catch them natively||

[spare hare]

ig if it really bothers you what nature is displayed for the name

bc even with mints the original nature name stays the same

[tropic pollen]

||all starters except Serp and Emboar is really weird btw like why not them at that point||

[tender radish]

me

IT LOOKS SO UGLY

[spare hare]

||WE'RE GOING BACK TO UNOVA BAYBEE||

[tender radish]

same with when you use the judge function and that shit says HYPER TRAINED!™️ GROSS

[tropic pollen]

no please not yet the world isnt ready

[tropic pollen]

that is hideous i agree

like shut up im SORRY my baby wasnt 'BORN CORRECTLY™️'

[spare hare]

™️

BORN CORRECTLY would be a great trademark

[soft lava]

Oh yea, saw that a bit ago, didn't know it wasn't posted here.
I thought it was || the supposed pkhex like feature khu talked about for the dlc. Still no clue what that will turn into but assumably some kind of pokemon augmentation tied to lore reasons or something ||

|| harnessing the same power that made paradox mons or somethin ||

[tropic pollen]

||we're talking about pokedex entries tho||

[soft lava]

Oh, well

[soft lava]

.

There we go

[tropic pollen]

ah, gotcha

[rough kelp]

so ||with blaziken confirmed anyone gonna rock the 3 caballeros team with blaziken, quaquaval and squawkabilly

alternatively shiny h-decidueye since it will make them all fighting humanoid bird||

[red garden]

||also would make a full starter trio of fighting humanoid birds||

[spare hare]

||kind of interesting that the pokemon he posted are all the 7 star raid ones||

[spice timber]

oh, ||masks||

that makes a lot of sense actually considering ||the emphasis on masks in the first part of the dlc||

[tender radish]

oh actual leaks are starting i see

tchau

[tropic pollen]

O what fr

[spice timber]

wait huh

really?

[spare hare]

I think he's just talking about what I most recently posted

[split swan]

I only see one

didn't KH post 2

1 real 1 fake

[harsh lion]

POKEDEX LEAKS DATAMINE WHATEVER || https://twitter.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1648868867811180544?t=Ym1LJS3xlhvPaN9wi0HAmw&s=19 ||

Matt (@mattyoukhana_)

In Scarlet & Violet Ver. 1.3.0, Game Freak have deleted even more Pokédex entries.

In addition to all of the entries from my last tweet, the following have been removed:

• Unova starters
• Kalos starters
• Carbink
• Galar starters

Full list here: https://t.co/J0vpqoEoSL

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Twitter · Apr 20, 2023, 1:59 AM

Do you guys see what i see....

[marble sand]

i do not...

[harsh lion]

Well good luck then

||"Unova starters" was not something we knew of. Kalos and Galar starters as well as Carbink are in the games code already, but the only unova starter to be is samurott due to hisuian.||

||This implies serperior and emboar will be back||

[spice timber]

oh cool, ||snivy and tepig|| off the list of mons not on switch

does that just leave us with ||the monkeys||?

[marble sand]

||@ jedi||

[spare hare]

after this, the ||only pokemon left are patrat line, the monkeys, and furfrou||

[vestal arch]

||oh hey emboar gets to leave hawaii||

[hot zenith]

||Furfrou being the only non-Unova mon left on that list||

||This is an official callout||

[dry shell]

Wait would deleting dex entries mean they’re not coming back

[harsh lion]

no

https://twitter.com/abcboy101/status/1274355977224159233?t=uMFr0q57OluaWbUYC8mDLA&s=19

abcboy (@abcboy101)

This is likely from the same list that went around before The Isle of Armor--basically, GF deleted the dex entries for these Pokémon, rather than leaving them blank like the Pokémon that weren't intended to come back (like the Weedle, Pidgey, and Rattata lines)

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Twitter · Jun 20, 2020, 2:58 PM

[dry shell]

So the entries that remain mean they aren’t coming back

[harsh lion]

yes

those would be the ones that aren't in the pastebins provided

[rough kelp]

wait I miss something when did ||they confirm spinda||

[harsh lion]

||Bdsp||

[rough kelp]

right.

[shell sand]

ya bdsp has every mon up to gen 4

[surreal vault]

A modest 4chan leak. It looks realistic enough to consider.

[spare hare]

sounds like ||terralet would be the name of the little turtle guy they teased in the anime||

honestly i don't really have much else to say on this lol, since there's not really that much that's really new

[spice timber]

yeah, the only really new things are ||ogerpon's typing, the name of the new tera mechanic thingy, the baby terapagos' name and the classifications of the three heroes||

[split swan]

||Glimmering... Glimmora... hm...||

[vestal arch]

||I still doubt it's legit but it being this simple makes it somewhat believable||

[runic prawn]

yeah ^

[dry shell]

Wait did we get new mons for isle of armor and the crown tundra besides the legendarys

[spare hare]

We also got g-slowpoke line

But all of the mons we've seen for sv dlc are just legendaries for their respective waves

[spice timber]

oh a minor real leak

there's little snippets of the ingame dlc areas in the background of this

[rough kelp]

||oh shit valiant for scarlet and moon for violet||

I hope this is real because || GRASS GHOST GAMERS WE GOT A FULL TEAM||

||dhelmise is not in DLC dex ||

[harsh lion]

fake

[surreal vault]

Well at least it's straightforward

[tropic pollen]

||Dream starters?
Or uh, maybe its like. Paldean starters coming to Pokemon sleep lol||

[rough kelp]

finally ||liepard krookodile swanna musharna and audino||

[surreal vault]

||Is it not just teasing home compatability soon||

||Like, it's may, if I don't have it by month's end I may explode||

[finite ocean]

|| fun word play ||

[surreal vault]

Unintended, but I'll still take the credit

[spice timber]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/551972811854577665/1103413079682846762/image0.jpg

[surreal vault]

Come on come on

[tropic pollen]

"later released this year" is the new "jeopardy coming soon"

[harsh lion]

i hope its not true

i hope the leakers get so impatient they make up some random date this month and it comes out in july

[tropic pollen]

home actually releases after DLC2

[spare hare]

Assuming they stick with spring the latest they can release home compatability is June 21

[runic prawn]

they never said it was spring northern hemisphere so it could be southern hemisphere spring

[marble sand]

spain IS in the southern hemisphere if you just push it down a few thousand miles

[runic prawn]

latin america

[surreal vault]

Spain IS in the Southern Hemisphere if you rewind time by 300 years

[marble sand]

😭

[rough kelp]

🙏 I hope they announce new PMD game before home update that will be so fucking funny

[velvet bobcat]

That'd only apply to Scarlet tho

[spice timber]

so according to centro, home is really really soon

||https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1656050793450024960?s=20 ||
||https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1656051055971500032?s=20 ||

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks)

HOME update info:

• Update is ready, release very soon
• For the first time ever, you will be able to transfer Pokémon caught in Scarlet/Violet to previous generation games.
• However, the move reset will still be a thing; any Pokémon transferred to SV will get its moves reset.

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Twitter · May 9, 2023, 9:37 PM

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks)

• Mystery Gift for linking SV: Fuecoco, Sprigatito, Quaxly.
• Iron Leaves and Waking Wake won't have Pokédex entries, all they will say is that they are still under investigation.

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Twitter · May 9, 2023, 9:38 PM

it's centro so take it with a mountain of salt

they also say that ||backwards compatibility is a thing with the move reset mechanic|| and ||wake/leaves don't get dex entries yet, with their info "under investigation"||

[spare hare]

normally centro steals/reposts info so the question is what is their source for this

[vestal arch]

||transfering backwards sounds like a load've shit because of symbols and nonexistant marks let alone breaking met locations||

[spare hare]

the only thing i know of is that ||khu hinted at the backwards compat with past gens thing with a pic of the time capsule from gen 2||

[vestal arch]

i would like a difference source before i go off about this any further though

[spice timber]

what's the point of ||backwards compatibility|| to begin with?

it feels kinda redundant

[spare hare]

the most useful aspect of it would be to evolve ||pokemon into certain forms || i feel like

like if you got a|| shiny koffing in gen 9 (just assume it's in gen 9) and you wanted a shiny g-weezing||

but also i think it's nice just to ||not be locked into keeping pokemon in the newest generation||

[vestal arch]

||its for all 2 stantler fans and another excuse to make you lose moves ig||

[surreal vault]

OH MY GOD

||BACKWARDS COMPATABILITY???? THATS INSANE||

||AND IT MEANS I DON'T HAVE TO HUNT SOME HISUI FORMES IN PLA LETS FUCKING GO||

[tranquil laurel]

||Backwards compatibility is also nice considering not every Pokémon is in every game now||

[harsh lion]

||more accurately if you have a shiny in SV that evolves into a hisuian pokemon||

[rough kelp]

finally ||you can send weavile back to games where it has actual moves||

[spice timber]

oh wait shit yeah

||finally a way to get regional evos easily||

[tender radish]

||BDSP/PLA pokemon can be sent back to swsh, iirc they either use the gen 3-5 mark or have no mark, and have a met location of "Faraway place" (or for eggs they use "a stranger" for the daycare couple and "faraway place" for the hatch location)||

||and the non existent Contest Star Ribbon, while not showing up in swsh, is still stored in HOME and is restored when brought back to BDSP||

||so it is certainly plausible at the very least since all of that would be handled by HOME - it would explain why it's been taking 40 years to release||

||buuuuut that said it's from centro. so the source is either Guy who works at Game Freak or your weird uncle who desperately wants to look cool but doesn't actually know what a nintendo is||

||and a lot of these are really safe bets regardless||

[vestal arch]

||oh ok nevermind besides me being annoyed about not seeing the right game indictator that seems fine if it does happen. but yeah centro is not a source I enjoy trusting for these||

[harsh lion]

God please let HOME release in July it would be so fucking funny

[tender radish]

HOME drops in december lets go

[harsh lion]

God please let HOME release in spring 2024 it would be so fucking funny

[rose junco]

HOME releases never

[north fjord]

HOMELESS

[velvet bobcat]

"I want Pokemon Home!"
"We have Pokemon Home at home"
Pokemon Home at home:

[spice timber]

huh, it looks like khu backed this stuff up

he also mentioned something about ||a special thing to compensate the loss of transfer moves||?

[surreal vault]

||Is the world ready for Knock off Kingambit||

[rough kelp]

finally ||5th move slot||

[tropic pollen]

||wonder if this could be about move tutors||

[vestal arch]

||i wish this man would type coherently||

[spare hare]

I told you

it was probably from him to begin with

Bc I haven't seen any other source Centro would have gotten info from recently

Leak scene has mostly been dead thankfully lol

[spice timber]

i'm kind of dreading the day khu starts posting on the dlc

[marble sand]

khu deciding how to format a post regarding the new puppy pokemon :

[spice timber]

because you know it's gonna be some fucked up nightmare of an image

[rough kelp]

me watching pokemon fans be like "bro this is old news it's alreadly leaked" under every comment that's excited about new stuffs they reveal

[surreal vault]

Me watching people spoil a Dunsparce evolution months before the game released

[harsh lion]

Please let kingambito get knock off so it gets suspect tested 3 times

[tropic pollen]

||i forgot how cringe it is that neither Mawile nor Crobat will return ||

[tropic pollen]

i guess this was Dream World Abilities for the starters xd

[marble sand]

||so this is the first generation where you can't get crobat at all huh. i know he wasn't in swsh's base game but he was at least added on 😭||

[white garden]

Not leak related but this comment might be speaking facts, this might be related to the save glitch, in which if this is true, Gamefreak and TPC are trying to eliminate the save glitch b4 releasing home for S/V

[shell sand]

not surprising!

[spare hare]

make spidops suck ass
||give it some new form in the dlc||

Imagine if they actually did this

[vestal arch]

||it's still gonna suck||

[harsh lion]

||game freak being cowards making fast spore forbidden (Toedscruel as a whole, Brute Bonnet not being able to boost speed with Protosynthesis, Breloom not learning Trailblaze) and then making a 650 bst sticky web setter||

oh my god discord did that again

[spice timber]

i am so sad about that

unused jynx cry 2

[tropic pollen]

||My guess is its a scrapped gender difference||

[north fjord]

||We almost had spidops with huuuuuuuge boobs 😔||

[tropic pollen]

@rough kelp ||its not even in the DLC either 💀 ||

[rough kelp]

even with ||ALL THAT KANTO MONS????||

[tropic pollen]

[harsh lion]

||Fezandipiti better be poison flying fr||

||Else that combination will be GONE in sv||

[rough kelp]

me ||a noivern fan mockingly smiling at crobat not being available in every game but noivern is||

[harsh lion]

||Noivern wasnt in PLA or BDSP. Get Owned Kid.||

[rough kelp]

||don't you PLA BDSP LGPE New Snap Cafemix Pokemon Masters EX Unite me||

[rough kelp]

how long is this gif?????????

[harsh lion]

it doesnt loop

[rough kelp]

yeah if it doesn't loop it probably just mean it last a while, though

like 3-5 minutes

[harsh lion]

well i think it just stops at the last frame but maybe it does loop after A While

never thought about it tho

[rough kelp]

can discord gif be that advancedly customized

[harsh lion]

I mean its a gif

[ivory prawn]

Yea gifs can just not loop

That's how the elfilis sticker here works

Except on mobile because discord somehow fucked that up

[spice timber]

||https://twitter.com/Riddler_Khu/status/1670779507610116097?s=20 || (khu)

Khu’s Paradox Sequel (@Riddler_Khu)

💡

Likes

905

Twitter · Jun 19, 2023, 1:04 PM

[harsh lion]

holy fuck is that herlock sholmes from the great ace attorney chronicles

[vestal arch]

oh boy here we go again

[spice timber]

also, the guy currently teasing a lot of shit about the direct rt'd this thing by masuda

which like ???? idk if it means anything

[harsh lion]

i mean

if u want

my FULL HONESTY

i think theres a non zero chance there might be anything about pokemon in the direct because as far as we know theres like three nintendo titles coming to the switch and two of them are pokemon svs dlc

but i doubt itll be anything important

[spice timber]

yeah, agreed

i think we'll get some kind of bigger pokemon news next week, but there's defo a chance that they just dump something tomorrow and call it a day

[spare hare]

Honestly I just think this could have been posted to hint at the Direct announcement this morning

If anything the pokemon hint would be ||detective pikachu bc he posted a gif of that||

[runic prawn]

yeah that is likely just ||detective pikachu||

[spice timber]

ooooh ok

that makes sense

[harsh lion]

|| https://twitter.com/Playmaker708/status/1671623975271538688?t=Fv_x40Dav9aNZkoYxQ9arg&s=19 ||

apparently from centro

[surreal vault]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/906550758399442954/908209542096105472/No.mp4

[spice timber]

wait couldn't that be super easy to fake

[harsh lion]

Yeah but i saw it posted

[spice timber]

we already know how all the stylized sprites look

[harsh lion]

wait do we have all of them

oh

this ones frmo bdsp innit

[spice timber]

no, we have all of them courtesy of home

[surreal vault]

Wait really?

[spice timber]

yeah

[spare hare]

they were posted in here too

remember, they even had renders of the megas

[harsh lion]

ohhhhhh those ones

[marble sand]

but i mean ||smeargle|| is coming back SOME day right

can't delay the inevitable...

[harsh lion]

actually it has been delayed for a while

and i am confident it can be delayed for longer

[harsh lion]

ok

i guess we already "knew" about ||smeargle||

[spice timber]

just had a thought

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/690340950517481485/1121487124982677697/rif-1687453754581.jpg

if this really is honedge, then that means that the scrubbed dex entries don't really mean much

considering aegislash isn't in there

[harsh lion]

or maybe its not honedge

it does look

thin from the side

and brown and blue

so its kinda honedge looking but idk i feel like its not enough to tell

[spare hare]

That's literally two lines bro 😭

[harsh lion]

its gonna be like

porygon z

[spare hare]

it might not be anything

i decided to take a look myself

i saw this scattered around the area

and tbh what's in the screenshot above just looks like this but obscured with some blades of yellow grass

which is why it looks segmented

if you look closely you can see those scattered around the area

the one i posted doesn't seem obscured by anything so that's presumably just what it is

i have two ideas on what it could be

[ivory prawn]

That’s the deoxys triangle from the side duh

[spare hare]

1. it's just an environmental thing, maybe some post of some kind scattered throughout since it's supposed to be a nature preserve or something like that

2. maybe it's just a placeholder for wild pokemon spawns

[spare hare]

delta episode obsolete

[velvet bobcat]

Uhm

[marble sand]

oh shit

yeah honedge confirmed

[ivory prawn]

He eated the honedge

[velvet bobcat]

Well
Remember the whole "Galarian Dustox" thing on island of armour

[marble sand]

True

but this one is Real bc I said so

[velvet bobcat]

They would never do it again right...?

I do hope it's real cause Aegislash is awesome

[harsh lion]

leaks dont say aegislash so i doubt its in the game

[marble sand]

well the leakers are stupid and ugly so I disagree...

[tropic pollen]

No way, Kalosian design

[harsh lion]

HES GONNA HAVE DIANCIE BROS

[spare hare]

I think it would be Cool for aegislash to be in, I just wouldn't take any of this as actual confirmation

[harsh lion]

does anyone know if the max adventure legendaries had their dex entries scrubbed in swsh for the dlc

cos they didnt have dex entries in game so im wondering

[spare hare]

I was wondering that before

[harsh lion]

like theyre totally going to announce Max Tera Raids in like three months

[spare hare]

I don't remember if we ever found the answer

Also though

[harsh lion]

some ||starters|| seem to have had their dex entries scrubbed in SV

[tropic pollen]

Wait a minute…

[harsh lion]

whereas in SwSh ||they didnt have dex entries||

so

[spare hare]

Honedge line would be a weird case for that to apply to

[harsh lion]

yeah it would be

but idk

[tropic pollen]

Maybe he’s powering Terapagos with Carbinks

[spare hare]

It's not an important line like starters or legenndaries

[tropic pollen]

Or something

[harsh lion]

They can make it important. They can

Regional aegislash (Chainsaw)

[spare hare]

Do NOT pull the scarf

[tropic pollen]

Regional Doublade evolution, Triblade

[marble sand]

if honedge is in
See? I told you - it was right there! Look at his scarf!
if honedge is not in
Gamefreak really misled us by making this character design resemble honedge so much. Not my fault!

You can't beat me.

[harsh lion]

pulling blueberry man's scarf and he instantly gets cut in half

[velvet bobcat]

Maybe he IS the honedge

[harsh lion]

its 100% a klara situation

for sure for sure

imagine if there was DLC for PLA and they had a new character with like

[marble sand]

Gamefreak really misled us by making this character design resemble honedge so much. Not my fault!

[velvet bobcat]

Wurmple fans 🤝 Honedge fans
Pain and suffering

[harsh lion]

accessories resembling Mega Lucario or some alteration of an ultra beast or whatever and then the DLC added Slugma and Hitmonchan

[tropic pollen]

Remember the fake PLA leak

[velvet bobcat]

Which one

[tropic pollen]

That said a hisuian slugma gonna be there

it was for DLC

[velvet bobcat]

slugma joke

[tropic pollen]

https://twitter.com/Rad_Dudesman/status/1497384125770129413?s=20&t=fLC8c2l8RO1_MPzzYYgE7Q

Found it

[marble sand]

reminds me of the fake sv leak that had grape/wine based cherubi regional. Am sad we didn't get it

[tropic pollen]

I think we need more regionals like Alolan Marowak

That just completely change everything

Ground type evolving into a fire/ghost looking ass

Hillarious

[spare hare]

https://twitter.com/JediwilliW/status/1497572567959363584

Jedi (@JediwilliW)

@Rad_Dudesman Seems a bit excessive at first, but SwSh DLC did give us 7 new mons and 6 new Galarian forms. I guess we'll see.

Twitter · Feb 26, 2022, 2:01 PM

[harsh lion]

goobed

[tropic pollen]

oh fuck

[spare hare]

mfw we just didn't get pla dlc

except kind of daybreak but we didn't get more pokemon in that

[tropic pollen]

what did Daybreak even do

[spare hare]

mostly add new challenges

there were some new quests that involved massive mass outbreaks

all the new battle challenges at training grounds

eternal battle reverie which is basically like a battle facility for pla

there's probably some more minor stuff but that was the biggest stuff

[spice timber]

oh yeah isn't marshadow not in sv

[spare hare]

it's not

[spice timber]

raifort has a bunch of decor on her of gen 7 legendaries that aren't in sv

[spare hare]

tapu koko is also not despite being a raifort decoration

[spice timber]

lunala as well

[tropic pollen]

i mean lets be honest they'll all be back for Indigo Disk

[split swan]

Wait new G Forms?

So G forms never seen before?

[spare hare]

swsh dlc had 6 new galarian mons yea

slowpoke line and the 3 kanto birds

[split swan]

Oh those guys I see

[velvet bobcat]

Just realized

The second dlc has the whole terrarium thing

Except it's not named terrarium

It's terarium

very interesting lack of a second t

[spare hare]

yea it's definitely intentional

[spice timber]

i wonder

[spare hare]

i'm of the mind that terapagos is like

[spice timber]

maybe they're powering it with the baby terapagos?

[spare hare]

powering the whole thing or something

[spice timber]

while the big terapagos is chilling hooked up to the time machine in area zero

[spare hare]

you can see a bunch of the crystals in the center of the terarium

[velvet bobcat]

Also it says that Cyrano invited you to his academy "after hearing about your adventures" so yea this is probably post-game

[spare hare]

they confirmed this was postgame

[spice timber]

that'd explain how babypagos ties into this whole thing

[spare hare]

you can only start wave 2 after you finish the main game and wave 1

[velvet bobcat]

Got it

[spice timber]

"hey we found this weird turtle and used it to make a pokemon habitat, do you know anything about it"

[velvet bobcat]

Still no sight of Geeta tho (sus sus sus sus)

[spare hare]

https://tenor.com/view/geeta-geeta-pokemon-geeta-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-pokemon-scarlet-pokemon-violet-gif-27137397

i'm of the mind that geeta is powering the terarium

[velvet bobcat]

And also still no sight of how does any of this ties into Area Zero

Are we gonna have a DLC named after Area Zero WITHOUT going to Area Zero?

[tropic pollen]

So wait

In Sada/Turo’s notes, they wrote that the terastalization phenomena was sourced from Terapagos

And that the time machine was powered by the same phenomena

[spare hare]

it does say "the hidden treasure of area zero" so they COULD talk about how it's from area zero without revisiting the area

[tropic pollen]

So when was Terapagos taken to Blueberry, if its really there?

[spare hare]

it could be that terapagos is split up like tank suggested

it could also just be that

[tropic pollen]

My guess is that it will be in there actually, and thats also why you can revisit the time machine room postgame

[spare hare]

they harnessed the power without needing terapagos's physical presence

they already did that with tera orbs

[spice timber]

i think the baby terapagos is actually just a baby terapagos

perhaps terapagos laid eggs somewhere distant like real turtles do?

and the plot of the dlc could be bringing it back to its parent in area zero

[ivory prawn]

Is that why she’s so powerless in her battle

[spare hare]

lmfaooo

[tropic pollen]

Those hair physics lmfao

[spare hare]

i actually love how much the terastallization animation affects the trainers

[spice timber]

||https://twitter.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1674253480767238145?s=20 ||

Matt (@mattyoukhana_)

The latest update for Scarlet/Violet has some adjustments to text, and some additions for future DLC content.

BTL_STRID_STD_mew_battle_01: Mew is going to go all out against this formidable opponent!

References to TM172 through TM201 added.

The Illuminate ability was changed.

Twitter · Jun 29, 2023, 3:08 AM

OH FUCK?

ACTUAL (minor) LEAK

||MEW BOSS FIGHT||

[spare hare]

https://twitter.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1674255389242662912

Matt (@mattyoukhana_)

So, per the official SV news site, this update was meant to change misleading move descriptions for Dire Claw, Stone Axe, and Ceaseless Edge, just before Regulation D starts.

...they did not update said move descriptions, but instead opted to leak DLC content.

nice

Twitter · Jun 29, 2023, 3:16 AM

💀

literally what the fuck are they doing

[spice timber]

i mean i'll take it

[spare hare]

god ||having to farm dlc pokemon materials for new tms||

💀

||better than move tutors though i guess||

||since grinding whatever currency move tutors take is usually ass too||

actually holy shit ||they actually gave illuminate a legitimate use now that they removed overworld effects from abilities||

[spice timber]

||i love that, and it's a useful ability for ingame too||

also ||mew encounterable (supposedly) ingame without needing bdsp, nature is healing||

[surreal vault]

||MEW ⁉️||

[surreal vault]

||IF THEY LOCK IT IM GONNA STRANGLE SOMEONE (they're gonna lock it)||

[spare hare]

||(they're gonna lock it)||

[harsh lion]

lololol knew it

[spare hare]

didn't this literally come up today

or well yesterday for you

[harsh lion]

||this is possibly the worst outcome for Illuminate||

[spare hare]

||I WAS HOPING FOR EVASION INTIMIDATE BUT THEY DID THE OPPOSITE (kind of)||

[harsh lion]

||run away still not updated :)||

[spare hare]

and it never will be

||cue 23 years from now and you will be using this against me||

[harsh lion]

not until they remove the option to run away frmo battles

LUL

[hot zenith]

!!!

[harsh lion]

also ||bets on TMs?||

[hot zenith]

||Illuminate upgraded from literally doing nothing in PVP to Keen Eye clone||

[spare hare]

||meteor beam.||

[harsh lion]

||Meteor Beam and Scald for sure||

[spice timber]

we getting ||misty explosion|| up in here

[vestal arch]

||dafuq they doin ova dere||

[harsh lion]

||I remember there's a bunch of SwSh TRs that didn't make it as TMs in SV right||

||High horsepower?||

[hot zenith]

||Dread it, run from it, Scald arrives all the same||

[spare hare]

the count is ||30 tms||

[harsh lion]

Okay here is your homework

||Look at every pokemon that we know is returning in the DLC and come up with TMs for their drops :^)||

[spare hare]

||version exclusive drops aren't used for tms in base game so presumably that will also apply here, so i guess you can exclude aipom and gligar from that||

[spice timber]

that's ||a lotta tms, how many moves did swsh add||?

[spare hare]

||at least in isle of armor it was 18 bc they did 1 for each type||

[spice timber]

did swsh ||add any tms of old moves||?

[harsh lion]

nope

[spare hare]

also yeah ||isle of armor was move tutors, not tms||

[harsh lion]

||plus the signature moves shell side arm, wicked blow and surging strikes in IoA, which don't really count here but i thought it was worth mentioning only bc i am a nerd||

[spare hare]

they didn't ||expand the tr or tm list at all||

i'm assuming it's the same thing, they just ||made them tms instead of tutors||

[spice timber]

i really wonder ||how many of these tms will be old moves vs new ones, assuming there's no move tutors and these replace them||

[spare hare]

||which is more convenient so whatever||

[spice timber]

i can totally see ||moves like signal beam and scald coming back as these tms||

[harsh lion]

||if its anything like base SV there'll be like two new moves||

[spare hare]

since it's ||30 it doesn't look like they're doing the same gimmick as isle of armor, probably a balance of both but skewing more towards old moves?||

||maybe they'll focus more on bringing back old moves that were previously unusable or just had really limited distribution||

[spice timber]

i hope they don't ||make scald too common again||

ok the ||mew|| thing just got way cooler i think (maybe not)

(khu tweet, grody but relevant here)
||https://twitter.com/Riddler_Khu/status/1674263336903667715?s=20 ||

Khu’s Paradox Sequel (@Riddler_Khu)

🤫

Twitter · Jun 29, 2023, 3:47 AM

||according to this, it's a mewtwo raid battle with mew as a partner||

[surreal vault]

||...Hmm||

[harsh lion]

||isnt mighty mark the one from 7 star raid events||

[spice timber]

||yeah, maybe this is gonna be an event they do before the dlc instead of a permanent thing, which would suck because no mew||

though ||the fact that there's special text accompanying it might point to the mew being actually obtainable||

[runic prawn]

lol

[velvet bobcat]

||is this mew thing a story quest or a raid thingy?||

[harsh lion]

||seeing as it has text that doesnt have any equivalent in any tera raids so far, it might be like keldeo in crown tundra - a side quest. whether or not it is a raid battle within a side quest remains to be seen bc we dont know yet, but its clear to me that it will be PERMANENT, DLC-EXCLUSIVE content||

[harsh lion]

||also: mightiest mark's description was changed https://twitter.com/mattyoukhana_/status/1674270819151761408?t=Sg7Tuyc7XwXFduzKI8sjMQ&s=19 so mewtwo may not be a tera raid event||

Matt (@mattyoukhana_)

Scarlet & Violet Ver. 1.3.2 updated the description for Mightiest Mark.

Old: A mark for a Pokémon caught in a seven-star Tera Raid Battle.

New: A mark for an especially mighty Pokémon.

Will we be able to get Mightiest Mark through other means in the future?

Likes

344

Twitter · Jun 29, 2023, 4:17 AM

[tropic pollen]

||It could be a titan||

||With Mew as your partner similar to Arven||

[spice timber]

hmm
||https://twitter.com/Riddler_Khu/status/1674273910429450240?t=ut2aBY3HKaZU5whFJWCbgA&s=19 ||

Khu’s Paradox Sequel (@Riddler_Khu)

@mattyoukhana_ Nope, but something different.

Likes

137

Twitter · Jun 29, 2023, 4:29 AM

so i guess it's ||not a normal raid event nor another way to get the mightiest mark without an event but a secret third thing||

[rough kelp]

oh boy it's leak season

also wow ||that's the LAMEST route they could have gone for illuminate||

||atleast it's a keen eye clone and not fucking. big pecks||

I wonder ||are they changing this now because they realized illuminate is pratically useless without field effect or something in the DLC gonna have illuminate?||

||... terapagos???||

[spice timber]

i think ||both, because some mons have illuminate as like their whole ability thing||

[harsh lion]

||no pokemon has only illuminate but its still true that it has no use in SV||

[rough kelp]

ooh nothing in the game ||has illuminate, I forgot||

[tropic pollen]

||And now Mewtwo was announced as a character in unite, hm||

What are they cooking

[runic prawn]

||mewthree||

[spare hare]

Oh apparently they updated illuminate with a new patch

It's on serebii

Also re the ||mightiest mark thing, maybe it's just another dynamax adventures thing||

[runic prawn]

||dynamax adventures were cool so I would like that 👀 ||

[spice timber]

it could be ||a tie-in with that mewtwo in unite thing||

||god please not dynamax adventures though, if it is DAs i hope it isn't as bad for shiny hunting||

[marble sand]

mfw ||watchhog with keen eye and illuminate is the new delibird with insomnia and vital spirit||

Why they do this

[spare hare]

||good thing watchog apparently still isn't even in sv||

[grizzled turret]

Why does it seem like no matter how you spell ||Watchog|| it’s always wrong

[harsh lion]

I can verify you spelled it correctly :)

[soft lava]

Its probably because something in your brain expects the pun to be different, or better, but no, its just || watc-h-og ||

[rough kelp]

||analytic watchog user when they introduce a new move that lowers accuracy by 2 stages||

[tropic pollen]

@marble sand

[marble sand]

ah cool

||soon.mp4||

[spare hare]

[marble sand]

ping fries are done

[harsh lion]

went to the list of returning pokemon for the dlc

||Mamoswine|| is back

so happy to hear

[silver shore]

Happy for my boy ||mamo|| but I don't see him staying in uu this gen :(

[rough kelp]

YEAH BECAUSE HE GONNA MOVE TO OU

||#MAMOSWEEEEEP||

[tropic pollen]

||im just baffled were gonna have a generation without Zubat||

[rough kelp]

this is where ||the poison/flying regional gliscor come into play ||

[dry shell]

I’m just happy that the ||johto starters|| are back

[spice timber]

very interesting thing just happened

||https://vxtwitter.com/Pyoro_ND/status/1675543463289573378?t=TXFHaQOsK4icnQLTB4LbtQ&s=19 ||

pyoro (the guy who leaked stuff from the last direct, as well as a bunch of other stuff in the past including greavard's design) acknowledged this greentext leak