Leaks for Pokémon

[spare hare]

Discuss any information about leaks of Pokémon Scarlet & Violet here!

Old thread:
https://discord.com/channels/132720341058453504/996747171393175682

[ivory prawn]

[runic prawn]

pokemon

[spice timber]

should we move the pins from the thread to here?

[crude nimbus]

Unfortunately we can't move messages or threads, otherwise we'd have done so

Best we can do is provide a link back to the original threads so the pins and history can still be accessed

[spice timber]

ah, that's fair

i was thinking just copy/pasting the info from the threads to here

[crude nimbus]

ahh

[spice timber]

though the pins in the thread are super outdated compared to what we know now, so i guess it doesn't matter lmao

[crude nimbus]

I mean yeah that stuff can totally be done
I'll leave that up to those that are actually following the leaks though

[runic prawn]

well you can always repost stuff you feel could be pinned here and we can pin

[spice timber]

it might be a good idea to just pin a bigass list of every mon in the dex

[crude nimbus]

got a fresh 50 pins to work with

[spice timber]

if you guys want i can take the info from that one website that lists everything and just type it out here in discord

redacting the questionable khu language and weird fanart

[serene dagger]

i love pokemon scales and violin

[runic prawn]

sure if you're up for that

[spice timber]

oh cool, though it's gonna be a text wall

[spare hare]

Oh fair warning, bot will probably trigger if it's over a certain amount of newlines

Unless it doesn't work for these forum posts bc idk how it works

[crude nimbus]

It can’t see forum posts actually

Gotta find a replacement for that

But yeah you’re safe from new line killer, have at it

[ivory prawn]

Googie when I list the entire national dex for no reason

[spare hare]

It's just googay listed 905+ times

||ig 1008 with base sv||

That's actually crazy

[north fjord]

Did you all see the leak for that new Pokémon called Tentaquil

[spare hare]

||yooo the tentacool imposter ||

[red garden]

||yo it was actually leaked?||

[spare hare]

no

||tentaquil is an infamous fakemon||

[spice timber]

do you guys mind if i not spoiler the basic descriptions of the unrevealed leaked mons for posterity's sake?

like if i were to describe the ||kamen rider as "grasshopper" or the dark dog as "dog 3"||

i just wanna make it not too hard to read

[north fjord]

I don’t

I just choose to avoid story spoilers

[spice timber]

ah, cool

[spare hare]

Depends on how you format it but honestly probably should like slap a spoiler tag on the whole post to make it easier

Unfortunately forum posts can still be seen outside the forum topic

[spice timber]

the post is really really long

[spare hare]

And if you do a mega post with all the spoiler info it'll be more likely for it to show up in random searches

[spice timber]

hmm

[spare hare]

Just put || on each end

If you can make a paste bin or something similar it would be easier too

[spice timber]

oh that's a good idea lmao

i'll do that instead

i'm not gonna be able to update it when new info comes out though because i don't have an account, but it should be easy enough to just copy/paste the info from the old one into a new one

[spare hare]

I mean lowkey we're gonna get full game leaks and datamines in 4 or 5 weeks anyways

[spice timber]

yeah obviously

i'm just doing this so people don't have to google that weird website

[ivory prawn]

When does this game rls again

[spice timber]

mid-november methinks

[spare hare]

Nov 18

[arctic bobcat]

The poke sus

[ivory prawn]

Too far

[spice timber]

https://pastebin.com/3hkEhq9t

that's it

hopefully it's good enough

pastebin has shitty formatting but i think it's fairly readable

[spare hare]

Random thought from seeing ||quagsire's name in the main channel, I wonder what the name of the new wooper Evo will be||

||since with the exception of wyrdeer all the other recent cross gen evos have followed the naming conventions of either the prevo or another evo||

||ig a lot of the other cross gen mons do that too lol but looking specifically at the modern trend||

||will they go with a play on wooper since it's supposed to look like beta wooper or will they go with a variation of quagsire||

[arctic bobcat]

||quagmire||

the pun is totally justified because of this!!!

[ivory prawn]

||That's not a pun that's just what quagsire's name is based on||

[arctic bobcat]

oh

[arctic bobcat]

mfw
fine

[serene dagger]

||Swagmire||

[spice timber]

https://tenor.com/view/quagmire-toilet-glenn-quagmire-gif-15511282

[spare hare]

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Twitter · Oct 11, 2022, 1:00 PM

New trailer confirmed for tomorrow at 9 am est

According to this it will be presented by the streamer gym leader

||we've seen her design from the picture leaks a while back, likely the electric gym leader||

[ivory prawn]

||||

[spice timber]

I wonder if we'll get any new mon reveals out of this

[serene dagger]

definitely for sure for sure, i hope

would be weird for a trailer to reveal only a character, no?

although we'd most likely get another trailer next week...

[spice timber]

I forget, was this girl ||electric or steel||?

oh ofc she's ||electric, the e4 has a steel member||

[surreal vault]

Of course it would be the ||Electric type who's a vtuber||

[arctic bobcat]

[spice timber]

looking back at the leaked mons, ||there's really only 3 non-paradox or legendary electric mons, huh,||

so I guess ||assuming she has a team of 4, she kind of has to have all 3 of them + whatever mon she's terastallizing||

[serene dagger]

||doesnt have to be a gen 9 only team does it||

[spice timber]

oh well true

really I just wanna see ||plasma frog|| lmao

[runic prawn]

vtuber

[spice timber]

breaking news: canada

[north fjord]

The fuck does this mean

[ivory prawn]

Canada

[spare hare]

I think the announcement just says that iono is the one narrating it

Not that shes what will be shown (altho obviously she's included)

Since it's supposed to be from the viewpoint of one of her streams

Also I'd be surprised if we didn't get a new mon reveal since that's the appeal of the series and there have been very few trailers without new pokemon (and none in sv)

Shows ||pawmi Evo and not any other electric mon||

[red garden]

Omg Canada is canon to pokemon

Not even as a region, just the entire country of Canada

[spare hare]

Khu explaining how if you zoom in on the emote one speck of negative space is a hint for the secondary typing of a pokemon that the new gym leader uses

(The pokemon isn't a new one)

[spare hare]

i actually think i get the canada tweet now with the context of two replies he made

Charles Martinet has been thanking fans after an outpouring of love following the #SuperMarioBrosMovie trailer.

oh oops i didn't realize i still had that copied instead lmao

||we know the bug gym leader has a bug tera type teddiursa, probably going off the whole bears eating honey from bees thing, so bug gym leader's name might be maple or syrup (the significance of the canada emoji), and the other two are just further elaborating on her tera mon being bug teddiursa||

[arctic bobcat]

Charles confirms he voices Canada in Pokémon Scarlet & Violet

[spice timber]

plot twist: ||the bug gym leader is bear hugger from punch out wii||

[spare hare]

||https://twitter.com/Pokekalos/status/1579852623431503872?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1579852623431503872|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url= ||

Pokekalos (@Pokekalos)

#PokémonScarletViolet : la durée est connue, le trailer fera 3 min 31 secondes

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Twitter · Oct 11, 2022, 3:13 PM

does anyone know where they're getting this from

||they're saying the trailer is 3 min and 31 seconds which isn't that weird, i'm just curious how they have such a specific length||

[spice timber]

iirc you can see the length of videos that are unlisted

that's how people can see the length of nintendo directs beforehand

[ivory prawn]

Charles Martinet has been thanking fans after an outpouring of love following the #SuperMarioBrosMovie trailer.

[serene dagger]

so true

[serene dagger]

This!!

[serene dagger]

||you mean bug ursaluna ||

[runic prawn]

no way

[serene dagger]

https://twitter.com/_000aj/status/1579861580157956097?t=14KWkxhavVpTfzMtUkjF3w&s=19

0-3aj (@_000aj)

No freaking way

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Twitter · Oct 11, 2022, 3:48 PM

Holy shit...

[north fjord]

The fucking acorn duck holy shit

He returns

[spice timber]

IT LIVES

[spice timber]

||https://twitter.com/makio_jroses/status/1579896140174331904?t=f8-SIMyJ3ifX2aasTquJaw&s=19 ||

Makio & JRoses (@makio_jroses)

@Osmiooo He posted this the day before the reveal of Cetitan
He knew what Pokémon would be revealed the day later

So we don’t think he posted this honey-bear AGAIN randomly 🤔

Twitter · Oct 11, 2022, 6:06 PM

i wonder if we'll see ||a double leader reveal, maybe including a bug mon||?

[spare hare]

maybe

i think it's also possible that he ||posted that bc there was a 4chan leak of the whole cetitan trailer beforehand and he knew which pokemon they were talking about, so he knew they were legit and decided to post a riddle for that mon||

||bc khu has shown that he doesn't know what the trailers contain before||

[spice timber]

oh that's true

it's still weird

[spare hare]

khu being pretty talkative today

||dolphin is pink with a heart motif||

||electric frog prevo is a tadpole with a filament for its tail||

||said they were similar to normal groudon and kyogre in battle, saw some ppl wondering if that meant they set up some field effect to boost their attacks||

||"PS and PV need to serve their monarch. Is he/she also a P or being a T which you will know about in the next year?"||

||assume this means paradox suicune and paradox virizion, who apparently are subservient to something else, which i'm going to assume is the third legendary related to terastal, hence the "T"||

||some paradox mons do not get any actual buffs (sounds like stats from what he's saying) from their original counterpart, although some do||

and finally he says ||one of these lines is not in: Charizard, Umbreon, Gardevoir, Lucario, Chandelire, Greninja, Mimikyu and Dragapult||

||which we know should be litwick line based on what we've seen frmo official stuff/leaks||

[spice timber]

the iono stream is teasing ||plasma frog||

[rough kelp]

oh

||I actually thought it was pawmi evolve||

[spare hare]

Probably not, ||the bumps on its head that look like eyes doesn't fit||

||and the belly contracting and expanding with electricity sounds more like a frog thing to me||

[surreal vault]

||This is the first time I'm hearing the plasma frog||

[spare hare]

We don't know much else beyond that lol

[rough kelp]

true but ||those aren't its eyes, right? even though that's where frog eyes usually go||

[spare hare]

Ig that's just part of the design then

||we don't really know any other electric types that would fit ||

[spice timber]

maybe ||it's blind||?

[spare hare]

Each poll only has one correct answer

[velvet bobcat]

I'm gonna give it a shot and guess that ||the truth is parallel world and it was caused by the professors||

||or the professors are from said parallel world||

[spare hare]

Probably yea

I think it's ||parallel world and either profs or arven ||

[rough kelp]

||L's grandson is the antagonist? ||

[spare hare]

khu posted a trailer for some anime movie in response to this

called ||king of thorn||

looked it up on wikipedia and (spoilers for this movie)

||looks like paradox mons might actually be imagined creatures come to life||

||no answer on who caused it but now my guess is that arven did? bc i'm thinking that each prof will basically be a "paradox" parent or w/e||

[spice timber]

wait holy shit i was thinking about that earlier but forgot to actually respond

||if we get a plot that revolves around mons being brought into existence by the power of sheer will, i will be so fucking happy||

||i love this kind of plot to death, the idea of imagination vs reality||

[spare hare]

||this is a more interesting premise than what i thought they'd go with lol, depending on how it's played i can see how it would be emotional with arven finally coming to terms with reality or something||

[spice timber]

||perhaps arven is an orphan and wants to find herba mystica to make his dreams come true in a sense, including creating artificial parents||?

i now see why ||khu and kaka said the story made people cry, this is a super promising setup||

i do wonder where ||the past/future aspect comes in though||

[red garden]

||Is it bad i disagree? I mean, sounds intresting but i just dont vibe with that kind of plot atleast by how it currently looks? Idk it doesnt feel like a pokemon plot to me? Also how does the theme fit? Maybe i just have to wait and see how its actually executed ingame||

[shell sand]

sorry but reading || a cat-boy hybrid|| is so fucking funny to me

[spice timber]

that's fine, ||it's definitely a super weird revelation and something super alien to pokemon||

[spice timber]

saying it here so I don't forget to draw it later
last night I had a dream where I think another trailer came out and there were more mons hidden in the background, and one of them was ||paradox puff but with elfilin's body shape (and puff's colorations)||

and I remember it making a giant splash online because of how funny it looked and how ||the leak only showed the face||

[spice timber]

here it is

[velvet bobcat]

mewthree

[dry shell]

Rat

[rough kelp]

you guys are so disappointing

the emote is right there

[spice timber]

hmm, so we got the plasma frog

I wonder where the idea it was electric/psychic came from?

iirc it was kind of implied instead of directly stated by the leakers

[spare hare]

idk but it was never confirmed to be part psychic

[spice timber]

yeah, I think they weren't certain

[spare hare]

mfw 5 weeks until sv (3-4 weeks until leaks/datamine)

[spare hare]

||according to khu each gym has its own music like in bw2||

[spice timber]

HOLY SHIT

INCREDIBLY BASED

[surreal vault]

Oh wow

[runic prawn]

||it makes sense since her streams and now gameplay trailer had a song that fits her||

[spice timber]

khu just described ||smoliv|| evo out of nowhere

paraphrased, "||humanoid with branches as arms, not masculine or feminine in design||"

[restive silo]

Pog

[restive silo]

Oh,,

[grizzled turret]

Poke a mon

[manic bane]

||whispy woods||

[shell sand]

Earthly Woods

[spice timber]

according to khu, all the ||bugs|| are earlygame, but the ||ice/dragon psuedo and the rock/poison flower mon|| are late

[surreal vault]

Khu posted an image of all the pokemon that will still be unusable completely on the switch even after S/V releases

||HOOPA SERPERIOR AND MINIOR ||

[velvet bobcat]

||Huge gen 5 L||

[north fjord]

||DLC maybe?????||

[runic prawn]

||clearly this proves gen 5 remakes for the switch||

[spare hare]

||it would be pretty sad if they still didn't add these in dlc||

[spare hare]

||we're kind of in a weird position now||

||after frlg the core remakes have mostly been 2 gens apart but now that third/upper versions are likely being replaced with dlc the gen would be pretty empty otherwise without some other game to fill it out||

||so I'm wondering what else we might get for gen 9||

||we did get lets go out of nowhere in gen 7 so lol||

[north fjord]

||Let’s go Emolga & Minccino||

||That’s your Gen 5 remakes||

||Have fun||

[spice timber]

||let's go basculin red stripe & let's go basculin blue stripe||

[spare hare]

||khu tweeted out:

Parrot, mice, TLJJ, dolphin, boxes, R ox;

Pig;

Engine & coin.||

||parrot is the green bird we saw in the farigarif trailer, mice is the mouse family, TLJJ is the dunsparce evo, dolphin is the one with the evo with 2 forms, boxes refers to koraidon/miraidon, r ox is the paldean tauros||

||basically, i saw speculation that i think fits; the first line is a list of the new pokemon with different forms, second line is a list of the mons with gender differences, and third is a list of the mons with technically different appearances that are never registered as separate forms (bc khu said another way to look at the last line was considering zygarde cells/rotom bike, which are both alternate appearances of those mons that aren't actual separate forms)||

||i'm pretty sure the parrot has been teased to come in different colors or something, the mouse family can have 3 or 4 members in the evo (seems like only child vs twins), we know the dolphin has 2 forms in the evo, koraidon/miraidon already technically have separate forms (sprinting build, drive mode, etc), and there are 3 paldean tauros||

||dunsparce evo is the only one we did not know had separate forms, which is interesting||

||lechonk evo was already teased to have gender differences before||

||engine mon is supposed to look different from what it looks like on the starmobile when it's an actual separate mon, and the coins you collect for coin mon are probably what are considered the "zygarde cells" that aren't actually separate forms, since the actual pokemon itself is just an itemfinder creature||

[spice timber]

wait how is ||TLJJ dunsparce||?

OH I GET ||COIN|| NOW

i think it works by ||you catch a singular coin mon and then help it gather up other coins/collectibles ala zygarde cells for it to evolve. and it gradually shifts forms throughout the process like zygarde does||

[spare hare]

Chinese name

[spice timber]

ah i see

||so it has another form? that's super interesting||

||dunsparce eating good today||

[rough kelp]

||in paldea all minior burnt in the atmostphere ||

[spice timber]

oh my god

||is coin mon's evolution requirement literally how the dowsing machine works||

||because dowsing machine has been functionally gone since like gen 7 iirc? it coming back in this form is so cute||

this just hit me like a truck

[spice timber]

more khu stuff, ||hammer fairy|| is earlygame

[rough kelp]

||not functionally, stoutland is the dowsing machine. but it was not in gen 7 yeah||

[spice timber]

and ||coin can be found in the wild (and infinitely), but supposedly to evolve it you should catch more of them||

[spice timber]

oh i completely forgot about that, and ||ursaluna in arceus||

but yeah ||the machine itself has been gone||

[spice timber]

||https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/722521136578953217/1031440971277287555/unknown.png ||

holy shit?

not from khu so idk what the real source is though

[candid nebula]

||Probably gen 2 remakes again?||

[arctic bobcat]

||Pokemon Lets Go Suicune and Pokemon Lets Go Zapdos||

[spare hare]

||it is from khu, it's in his replies||

||khu's saying coin mon is really good too, with a good new ability and signature 5 pp 140/150 bp move with no downside||

[surreal vault]

Oh my goodness gracious

[spice timber]

somewhat story spoilers according to khu
||there's a gym that had shut down before the events of the game (you can see its ruins), and an elite 4 member had stepped down to take its place||

he also said "||keep in mind that the book will tell you everything||", and clarified he wasn't referring to the dex

[spice timber]

he also said something about the dex itself along the lines of "||the dex is written as if it was a tabloid||"

and then started describing the dex entry of something he called ||FM, which i think means "future moth" or the future paradox volcarona||

he said it was ||described as an apocalypse weapon, followed by weird tweets that translate to "hermaphrodite", "cannonball launch" and EP073 (the anime episode with the gigantic ancient gengar/alakazam fighting), in that order||

[rough kelp]

on god?

[spice timber]

oh yeah in other news

https://twitter.com/realblaines/status/1582230014338031616?t=fC2F3LeGdA5QAHKsNl3mfw&s=19

Blaines  (@realblaines)

Pokemon scarlet violet leaking tomorrow. EVERYTHING. Brace yourselves

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Twitter · Oct 18, 2022, 4:40 AM

let's see how long this takes to be deleted

oh btw, i'm not sure how many people read this channel, but is it okay for me to paraphrase the khu stuff like that or should i just post it directly? (assuming it's not vulgar)

[surreal vault]

Blaines is not well known to be reliable

In addition this is still not the time frame for the game to leaks

The only things we know are in reach of access are the download cards which

Yeah that's not going to work

[spice timber]

yeah lmao

[surreal vault]

To get the cartridge now would essentially require an individual to be...idk somewhere in where the cards are being produced which...idk that sounds like orders of magnitude harder to pull off than just yoinking a cartridge early off a bestie working at games top or target

Ect

[spice timber]

me travelling to japan to infiltrate pokemon hq and steal a violet game cartridge (they're stored individually in glass boxes sitting on velvet pillows protected by red laser sensors in a vault with a comically large door)

khu's talking about the dlc now

according to him, the ||third legendary/past suicune/future virizion are all in the game's code, but they'll be unobtainable until the dlc||

also this (not vulgar)

[surreal vault]

HUH

Some speculate that this is because of ||Breeding becoming less controllable than usual||

[runic prawn]

lol was going to ask how reliable they were

[spice timber]

supposedly the idea of leaks coming soon doesn't originate from blaines, but I still wouldn't put stock into it

[surreal vault]

Nope. Blaines usually piggybacks off other leaders anyways

[spare hare]

Yea probably means nothing

Just like poryleeks claiming to have more info than they do

If they actually had info they would constantly be posting pics

[runic prawn]

the game does come out in around a month so (how), leaks could be soon but idk how soon

[spare hare]

Ig review copies could be coming out soon but otherwise not until games start being shipped out to stores at least

Which should be at most 2 weeks or so before the release

[surreal vault]

This is what happened with BDSP

[spice timber]

oh yeah didn't bdsp leak super early out of nowhere

[runic prawn]

oh yeah SwSh had someone leak first with a review copy

[surreal vault]

How to destroy your career 101

[spare hare]

Bdsp was 2 weeks before release

The first guy was the pokeleaker guy or whatever who got the game early

[runic prawn]

oh yeah that guy who took forever to beat the game

[surreal vault]

Yeah LOL

[runic prawn]

couldn't dump the game either

[spare hare]

Imagine playing the entire game with battle midis bc you're playing before the day 1 patch

[runic prawn]

funniest way for a game to leak

oh yeah that too

[spare hare]

And without postgame content

[spice timber]

that's like the worst way for a game to have a first impression lmao

all your selling points are in the day 1 patch that doesn't exist yet

[spare hare]

It's actually insane in hindsight

Like it sounds like so much copium to insist they'll patch all the battle music in day 1

But we knew they had good remixes

[runic prawn]

IT WAS COPIUM

I was 100% I was on copium

[spice timber]

i just hated all the negativity, so i was on copium too

[runic prawn]

but the fact that the trailers had actually non midi battle music made us sus

[spice timber]

plus the fucking title screen not existing

[runic prawn]

OH RIGHT

that was so weird, but if you think about it, pokémon games are made in a tight schedule (sadly)

so in a way it makes sense

they had the game playable and some details like title screen and music were int the day 1 patch

yeah I'm calling postgame a detail

because it's basically they didn't expect people to reach it before they got the patch

[spice timber]

i hate that ilca took a lot of the blame for that, because that was like their first big game and they were rushed to hell on it

[surreal vault]

Remember how
Things like the hall of origin were datamined in the release version but were removed from the day 1 patch

[spice timber]

and then re-added when arceus dropped, but before that people were left in the dark on whether it'd be back or not

doesn't help that the game on launch was more mechanically broken than any pokemon game since gen 2

[velvet bobcat]

when the portuguese pokemon fans decide to leak the game at the expense of getting one of the biggest Nintendo news websites of the country taken down

[spice timber]

i think more people are jumping onto the datamine tomorrow bandwagon, which i feel is gonna end in massive disappointment

idk why i'm even mentioning it here

[rough kelp]

ilca when someone find a glitch from the menu for the 69420th time

[serene dagger]

heads up theres Seemingly a wiglett evo leak going around but im not gonna post it bc in the server ive seen it someone replied that its fake and that they know the person who made it

[hot wedge]

Send it please

Even if it is fake we could probably tell

[serene dagger]

ah well if you ask

|| https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/470629080035753984/1032073997984223362/unknown.png ||

[hot wedge]

Didn’t khu say it would be pink

[serene dagger]

no idea

[spare hare]

||yea khu said it would be pink||

[restive silo]

Lol

[spare hare]

||I'm pretty sure I've seen fanart that looks very similar to this too, with the fins on top||

[restive silo]

||It evolving with fins will be very good anyways. I forgot wiggler would evolve and I was sad it didn’t have a fin but ||

[spare hare]

||WIGGLER||

[spice timber]

||ok the shading on that is all off, but i like the idea||

||i want wugtrio or whatever it's called to move like the dragon boss in cuphead when it goes into its final phase||

[hot wedge]

||Have you seen any more fake leaks||

||I want to laugh at them||

[restive silo]

Wait LOL

||Wiglett 🗿||

I’m gonna catch one and name it wiggler now

[vestal arch]

||it looks like a roblox model smhmh||

[spice timber]

oh i see what's wrong with it now

it's the face, it looks like they copy/pasted it off of a mario sunshine mushroom

[rough kelp]

my uncle at konami just leaked this

name is ||sustrio||

[hot wedge]

Can you get him to leak ||starter evos||

Like ||donald duck||

[rough kelp]

holy shit turns out quaxly has ||split evo||

[ivory prawn]

||I like how they couldn't decide if they were making fake art o a fake screenshot of a model||

||Like it literally just looks like those things where you draw something over a screenshot as a proof of concept||

[spice timber]

https://twitter.com/pory_leeks/status/1582799184167833601

PoryLeeks (@pory_leeks)

Pokémon S/V Datamine Timeline Update Part 2: 🧵

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Twitter · Oct 19, 2022, 6:21 PM

guess there ain't much to talk about till stuff happens

apologies for keeping this chat artificially alive, i guess i look too much into this stuff from my own excitement

[manic bane]

oh i was about to ask if the datamining things were true

just a month away here we go

[spice timber]

supposedly, copies are being shipped to australia rn?

[surreal vault]

Source?

[spice timber]

i was about to say, i don't really have one

it's just hearsay i heard

[surreal vault]

The timeframe does match

Shipped out now and then distributed later

That's where the waiting game begins

[spice timber]

we're definitely gonna have copies out in the wild soon, the question is who has the balls to obtain one

[manic bane]

this is kind of exciting lol

[spice timber]

the buildup to datamine season is always so nerve-wracking lmao

especially when it's such a huge release content-wise

[manic bane]

its like a ticking time bomb but the timer is hidden until there're 5 seconds left

[spice timber]

pokemon games are always high-priority targets for leaks, so i kinda hope it dumps sooner rather than later

[vestal arch]

i hope it dumps soon because i'm still wondering about frostbite

[spice timber]

I'm hopeful, considering we got the implication that drowsy is back

[surreal vault]

I think Kaka said ||it was freeze||

Also nothing hints at Drowsy being back

[spice timber]

oh really?

I thought there was this whole thing about mons being able to attack while they had a sleep status

[spice timber]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-crying-spunchbop-gary-sad-gif-23822800

[surreal vault]

This has so far only been seen once in a raid which already has unusual mechanics to begin with.

Rest also says it puts the pokemon to sleep

[spice timber]

I've thought that rest and drowsy could have two unique statuses

rest already works uniquely to normal sleep in that it forces you to wake up in 2 turns

[surreal vault]

The problem with drowsiness is that it's just
Paralysis but worse since it doesn't reduce speed

[spice timber]

doesn't drowsy increase damage taken from the next attack?

oh yeah drowsy also naturally wears off

really it's just frostbite that we should keep

[spare hare]

I wouldnt take the raid thing as definitive proof that drowsy is back

We've only seen it in raids and the nature of how raids work makes it more like an atb system than the usual turn based stuff which is probably why we saw sleep working like that

Otherwise there's no indication of it returning in any other aspect of the game

[spice timber]

riddler khu certified adventure tips (joking)

1. ||picnics give valuable buffs||
2. ||a few of the 3-stage lines are hard to use in a playthrough, though a mon that translates to "whole order fries" (fidough evo?) is good though||
3. ||"jump ship while playing"||
4. ||"turn on let's go"||

[spice timber]

OK I did not explain that well, this is stuff khu said

[spare hare]

Apparently kelios is saying we get previews tomorrow at the usual time although he's not sure

He's got a good track record unlike Blaines plus swsh previews were around the same time last year so I can see it

Worth noting that we may not actually see new pokemon from this though lol, since we didn't in swsh either (the previews weren't allowed to show new pokemon although some ppl mentioned them)

[surreal vault]

Gonna keep an eye on this

[runic prawn]

oh yeah that was weird

[spare hare]

Literally look at the tweet after

"Let's see tomorrow"

They do not have the game lol

[surreal vault]

I stand corrected

[restive silo]

If the game never datamines I guess I’ll still get the game on day 1 but wait a few hours to see the mf starter evos lol

[surreal vault]

https://twitter.com/realblaines/status/1583098200608899072

Blaines  (@realblaines)

To be clear, my source did not come through on the leaks. Not their fault, not my fault. What WAS my fault was getting excited and tweeting too early. But as I always covered real leaks reliably in the past, I will again for Pokemon Scarlet Violet when the usual sources are out

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Twitter · Oct 20, 2022, 2:09 PM

https://tenor.com/view/smile-laughing-laugh-gif-26377590

Yep we're in that time of leak season where we make fun of """""""leakers""""""""

[spice timber]

oh god, I don't like this part lmao

just constant jebaits

[surreal vault]

https://twitter.com/LooooongWiggler/status/1582982468453687296?s=20&t=pLgB4Zo_u5R6y3ZWO70EZg
Yeah you just get shitty edits like these

The Wiggler (@LooooongWiggler)

@PKMNleak Oh hello what is this tweet 🤨🧐😯🙈

Twitter · Oct 20, 2022, 6:30 AM

Like they didn't even try in making that look convincing

[spice timber]

my man pasted a jpeg onto a box

there's no shading or anything

[north fjord]

Couldn’t even just

Print off the picture

And fit it into the game case

[velvet bobcat]

Too much effort

[spare hare]

🎪

Pokemon leaker home emote

[restive silo]

True!

[rough kelp]

just got my copy from my uncle

[serene dagger]

holy shit is that darkrai

[runic prawn]

tfw I'm so tired today that the right made me think of nagito komaeda help

[spice timber]

this art is legendary

[spare hare]

Fuck

[spare hare]

https://twitter.com/KeliosFR/status/1583172865616007168?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1583172865616007168|twgr^|twcon^s1_&ref_url=

Kelios (@KeliosFR)

Si vous regardez bien, y a les bordures de #ScarletViolet, donc forcément relatif aux jeux

Twitter · Oct 20, 2022, 7:06 PM

[restive silo]

[spare hare]

https://twitter.com/Pokekalos/status/1583170865323470849?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1583172865616007168|twgr^|twcon^s3_&ref_url=

Pokekalos (@Pokekalos)

The Pokémon Company International a envoyé une carte à certains influenceurs, donnant rendez vous le 25 octobre, sans savoir à ce stade ce qui se prépare. Peut être de nouvelles informations sur #PokémonScarletViolet ?

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Twitter · Oct 20, 2022, 6:58 PM

[restive silo]

Time to speedrun being an influencer

[spare hare]

Basically pokemon apparently sent something out for influencers for October 25

[spice timber]

gotta say

minus leaks, this has been a pretty okay last month or so before launch

they're still going with the less-is-more approach, but each reveal has been pretty creative

though i think it would've been a lot worse had 5 pokemon not leaked in the farigiraf trailer

[surreal vault]

Agreed

[spice timber]

oh also

https://twitter.com/necrolipe/status/1583075098050772992?s=20&t=12uNjAEj2oIMFtdOJ2eZOQ

'Necro' Felipe #UniversoNintendo (@necrolipe)

As prévias de Pokémon Scarlet & Pokémon Violet devem ser publicadas amanhã pelos veículos de imprensa e influenciadores que foram convidados pela The Pokemon Company International

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Twitter · Oct 20, 2022, 12:38 PM

pretty high chance of sv previews starting tomorrow

shit's gettin real

[rough kelp]

🙏 no more cringelords doing riddles

[surreal vault]

It would be optimistic to expect anything in three weeks, unless a previewer wants to lose their job for clout

[spice timber]

i mean yeah obviously none of the previewers are gonna leak it

it's just a herald of the end

[manic bane]

how do i become an influencer

[velvet bobcat]

influence people to do evil things

such has using tik tok

slowly brainwash them to do your bidding

[manic bane]

sounds easy enough

[spice timber]

according to kaka ||the paradox puff isn't a vampire, it's a "cavepuff"||

[vestal arch]

||on one hand i'm dissapointed now on the other holy shit flintstones||

[spice timber]

wait actually

that might not be him

so take me with salt

[rough kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/spongegar-funny-blink-spongebob-gif-7390773

[spice timber]

@ palkiaorigin on twitter

[rough kelp]

||mfw the gif is not spoiler because it can also be used as a surprise reaction ||

[spice timber]

oh shit wait

I accidentally pinged a poor bloke

[surreal vault]

Yeah Kaka hasn't said anything in weeks

[spice timber]

me when I accidentally spread misinformation on the internet

[spare hare]

lol sv previews out

kelios really never misses

[shell sand]

whos kelios

[spare hare]

some french dude on twitter

idk what sources he has but he's predicted news drops and things before

[spare hare]

someone noticed this as a pfp in the tera raid

[surreal vault]

Tf is that

||Those look like flowers or mushrooms||

[spare hare]

||seen people think it's the pepper kappa||

hard to tell what this actually is tho lol

[spice timber]

supposedly ||sandwiches boost shiny rate||

[spare hare]

Yea but that's not a spoiler

Also starmobile fight apparently has speed boost ||so I wonder if that also applies to the engine mon itself||

[spice timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9mA1ZXH-Y0

overworld shinies confirmed

wait a sec this is just info we have now

[spare hare]

It might literally just be a potted plant lmao

[spice timber]

oh btw

https://twitter.com/palkiaorigin/status/1583478387649425409

PearlEnthusiast (@palkiaorigin)

THIS IS A FLOWER PLOT LMAO MY BAD THANKS @makio_jroses

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Twitter · Oct 21, 2022, 3:20 PM

[ivory prawn]

But like

Why

Can you just take a picture of anything in the game and make it your icon

Or did they make a picture of a flower planter at night one of the icons for some reason

[spare hare]

i think maybe the former

bc the other pfps don't seem particularly special either

[spare hare]

also the fact we're 4 weeks out from the game means even less until leaks and datamines

wtf

[runic prawn]

plot twist: the flower pot is a pokémon

[shell sand]

all the modern nintendo games be like GENDER IS NO MORE. Choose Style.

! https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1583546023745851392

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks)

Your trainer in #ScarletViolet will have no explicit gender.

When you first start the game you will be able to chose a base "style" and then customize it. All options are available for all trainers.

You can switch between the more femenine/masculine base styles at any time.

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Twitter · Oct 21, 2022, 7:49 PM

[north fjord]

I remember reading somewhere that Nintendo is an incredibly progressive company for this stuff even when the Japanese government ain’t so much

[shell sand]

if they were so progressive they;d show us Pearl and Marina's wedding already

[spare hare]

[north fjord]

Where’s our GAY Nintendo?

Hmmmm????

[arctic bobcat]

Woke nintendo with
Super Homo Bros.
The Legend of Lesbian
Kirgay
Bi Emblem
Super Trans Bros.
Splatoon

[shell sand]

Splatoon

[spare hare]

[shell sand]

i like how you put mario twice

wait

[arctic bobcat]

yeah I just realized i put a lot of ambiguity there

I blame nintendo and their naming schemes

[ivory prawn]

Nintendo 🤝 Anime
Making foreigners think Japanese laws aren't incredibly LGBTphobic

[candid nebula]

Splatoon 3 dlc should be their wedding in space

[spare hare]

||khu said he missed "food" when listing the pokemon with other forms, saw some ppl think it referred to the catfish/sushi since we know they're related somehow (like maybe a cramorant situation)||

||confirmed that protag and nemona each get one of the starters, and said one of the following gets the third one:
-geeta
-arven
-headmaster clavell
-the profs||

and this is what he thinks what the order of gyms/team star bases/titans roughly is meant to be

||Gym: Bug Grass Electric Water Ghost Ice Normal Psychic
Team Star: Fire Dark Poison Fighting Fairy
Titans: Rock Steel Flying Ground Dragon||

||normal is pretty late for series standards which is kind of interesting||

||and this also implies that paradox donphan may not have to come last anyways which again makes me wonder when the paradox mons will actually come into play||

||also regarding the last titan, the dragon one, khu said the catfish was not "the true boss" so we might get a multi phase fight with the sushi being the actual last phase||

[manic bane]

whoahh

[spice timber]

||i'm super looking forward to the titans now that we know they've got multiple unique phases||

[spare hare]

https://twitter.com/PhillyBeatzU/status/1583197025310748673

PhillyBeatzU (@PhillyBeatzU)

So @Pokemon Just Sent Over A Spooky Halloween Package to me. At the bottom of the box was this mystery envelope and card that says October 25, 2022! New Information on that Day for Pokemon Scarlet & Violet!? 👀

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Twitter · Oct 20, 2022, 8:42 PM

not entirely sure if i should post this in the main chat or not since there's no real leak here

but the rest of this package was spooky stuff so we might be getting a spooky mon soon for halloween

[spice timber]

i think it's okay to post, it's not a leak

and it was sent to influencers anyways, so it's technically already public knowledge

discussion about what the mon could be would probably belong here in this chat, unless it's said with no context of actual leaks

[spice timber]

referring to ||coin mon evo||

[spare hare]

||he actually already went back on the signature move thing and said it got nerfed lol||

[spare hare]

this is what he originally said

but ig they figured it was too much

[spice timber]

ooh ok

||i saw the thing about it being nerfed, but i didn't know it was op to begin with||

[spare hare]

honestly ||at least for ingame, considering how hard it's supposed to be to evolve it should be pretty good||

||just from a game design perspective||

[spice timber]

||yeah, like a spiritomb sort of deal||

||in gen 4, spiritomb is a pokemon with no weaknesses and pretty okay stats, so it's worth grinding it out for a playthrough||

[spice timber]

we already knew this earlier iirc, but ||all the paradoxes are dual types||

[spare hare]

Since influencers got that package for tomorrow but we didn't get an announcement today I wonder if that just means they're starting a tease tomorrow

Like the grafaiai graffiti

[spare hare]

So now that we know we're likely getting a ghost mon tomorrow

Which of the unrevealed ones would you want it to be

The remaining options are ||the ghost dog line, coin mon line, tumbleweed line, primeape evo, and paradox misdreavus||

[serene dagger]

||i want primeape evo but its gonna be dog||

[spare hare]

||technically fuecoco evo is supposed to be ghost too but obviously that's not gonna be shown||

[serene dagger]

idk what the dog is like but i expect the trailer would go ||"ooh this is so scary- omg puppy!" and then the guy gets fucking mauled||

[spare hare]

||that seems like a plausible way one of these trailers would go||

||I would prefer any other mon tho lol||

[serene dagger]

||although id also like the "coin" to be revealed just because. its not actually a coin. so then what is it. i want to stop calling it coin||

[spare hare]

Ig I'm interested to see ||how different the 3 dog lines are though||

[serene dagger]

no definitely me too

[spare hare]

||looks like some itemfinder bug||

||...except it's presumably not part bug||

[serene dagger]

||mfs be like it's a coin bug and it's neither||

is there any cat other than sprigatito

[ivory prawn]

Lechonk if you squint

[rough kelp]

||plot twist it's halloween so they show pumpkaboo and gorgeist, but now they have different size mechanic or sth||

[spare hare]

||no except maybe one of the four sublegends that's suppos3d to have leopard ties||

[serene dagger]

agony

[serene dagger]

pumpkaboo and gourgeist Extra Small

[spare hare]

Pumpkaboo fun sized

[red garden]

||Isnt that literally just how the hisiuan zor trailer went tho||

[serene dagger]

||Actually yes. But they'd do it again surely||

[spare hare]

trailer has leaked on 4chan every time since the cetitan one

it's hard to tell which post is real beforehand since everything is anonymous but here's a post ppl found lol

also unrelated but khu has now said ||we can guess all paradox types after giving some hints so just gonna repost someone else's analysis (tbh the number of types that kaka gave might be wrong so just use this as a guide for everything else)||

||khu has also said no ancient mons are part fire although the ones left pretty obviously weren't gonna be||

[shell sand]

at this point im sure that the leak season is all like

on purpose now

[spare hare]

I'm surprised ppl were able to find the legit post beforehand this time

[surreal vault]

Impressive

[velvet bobcat]

Wasn't this new pokemon one of the leaker's favourite one?

Or was it ||the other dog||

[spare hare]

It's too bad ||litwick line apparently isn't in||

I mean partly just bc that line is awesome but also bc it would have been great to ||have them appear alongside buried greavard||

||either as greavard imposters or to have the greavard be litwick imposters||

[ivory prawn]

Lights the forest on fire

There’s your impostors

[spare hare]

We will burn among us to the ground

[arctic bobcat]

among ghost

[restive silo]

Too true

[spice timber]

[velvet bobcat]

Evo hint maybe?

[manic bane]

hrmm

[spice timber]

some interesting observations regarding the box legendaries and ||paradoxes|| someone in a different server who's way more into the leak scene than me is saying

supposedly ||the paradoxes have abilities or something that powers them up in certain weathers/terrains, but nerfs them outside of them||

and to compliment that, ||koraidon and miraidon straight-up get drought and electric surge||

not confirmed stuff, just observations regarding khu's nonsensical tweets

specifically, when khu said ||past paradoxes got shafted compared to future ones||, they think he meant ||because there aren't any past paradoxes that are fire, they can't abuse drought as well as the future paradoxes that are electric can abuse electric terrain||

[surreal vault]

Woah woah woah ||they don't get those, at least not in name. We know the names of their abilities in Japanese||

||Those being Scarlet Surge and Harogen (I guess Halogen) Engine||

[spice timber]

oh wait a sec really?

||i have to imagine if this stuff is true, it's a situation where they just renamed those other abilities to be more exclusive for them||

it's weird either way

watch them both get ||renamed speed boost||

[serene dagger]

||Desolate land + grassy surge, primordial sea + electric surge||

[spare hare]

Exactly 3 weeks left until sv so probably 1-2 weeks until leaks/datamines

[rough kelp]

can't wait for stats

[spice timber]

i wanna see shinies so i know what i wanna hunt

[red garden]

https://tenor.com/view/here-it-comes-tornado-meme-gif-23054073

[rough kelp]

I hope ceruledge have the most broken stat spread

give it UB's min max, just 255 attack and speed, 10 everything else

[spice timber]

it just occurred to me that armarouge benefits from psychic terrain

armarouge with 255 spatk/speed, 10 in every other stat and then give it psychic surge as a HA

[runic prawn]

I keep forgetting we're almost in november omg

[spare hare]

||According to legend, some tsuchinoko have the ability to speak and a propensity for lying, and they are also said to have a taste for alcohol. Legend records that it will sometimes swallow its own tail so that it can roll like a wheel, similarly to the "hoop snake" of American legend.[3]||
||ouroboros dunsparce evo? ||

[rough kelp]

||wtf I called dibs on ouroboros tsuchinoko years ago gamefreak smh||

[spice timber]

HOLY SHIT ||OUROBOROS DUNSPARCE SOUNDS SICK||

[wraith gulch]

||dunsparce evolves to have a taste for vodka||

[surreal vault]

https://twitter.com/pory_leeks/status/1586168659051163648

PoryLeeks (@pory_leeks)

Never thought it would end like this. This fucking sucks.

Twitter · Oct 29, 2022, 1:30 AM

Nintendo Ninjas begin with preemptive strikes

[spice timber]

it won't help when the game gets leaked, but it still kinda sucks to see

https://twitter.com/pory_leeks/status/1586173186298679296

PoryLeeks (@pory_leeks)

OK fuck this i'm telling y'all everything. get fucking ready.

Twitter · Oct 29, 2022, 1:48 AM

[runic prawn]

[surreal vault]

I don't think he has info, he's just gonna rant about nintendo

[runic prawn]

even so

https://tenor.com/view/choujeki-eating-popcorn-gif-14739088

[surreal vault]

Wait Where's his acc

Where did it go

[runic prawn]

oh did they delete the tweet

[surreal vault]

I think the acc is gone

[runic prawn]

account is up still

https://twitter.com/pory_leeks

[surreal vault]

Oh

[spice timber]

weird

wonder if he backpedaled

[runic prawn]

probably

[spice timber]

khu just tweeted popcorn emojis, followed by something that translates to "pheasant dying"

[spare hare]

when the attentino seeking leaker accounts!

[surreal vault]

Khu stfu for 5 seconds challenge

[vestal arch]

monkey fight gif goes here

[spice timber]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-fight-gravity-falls-argue-gif-5679496

[runic prawn]

https://twitter.com/pory_leeks/status/1586176216062730242

PoryLeeks (@pory_leeks)

I am going to go sit down and chill out. Good Night.

Twitter · Oct 29, 2022, 2:00 AM

welp

deleted other tweets

so yeah

[surreal vault]

Prrrrobably a good choice

[spice timber]

yeah, that's the best choice they coulda made there

[ivory prawn]

So like

They had a breakdown b/c Elon bought twitter?

[spice timber]

no

they got a warning letter from nintendo and freaked out

[spare hare]

btw nintendo there's this little account called riddler khu

maybe you want to check them out, if you know what i mean

[ivory prawn]

Well that's stupid

[velvet bobcat]

Nintendo wouldn't be able to understand the riddles anyways

"What the hell does any of this mean"
"Maybe we should strike him just in case"

[ivory prawn]

Like dude's been existing for how long and didn't think nintendo would eventually send them a letter going 'pls stfu'???

[spice timber]

ok apparently, for the poryleeks guy

the reason he got so freaked out was because the email nintendo sent him had his real name in it

so it's the legal equivalent of pinging someone with their ip address

[surreal vault]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-your-ip-address-garfield-the-garfield-show-i-know-where-you-live-meme-gif-19284342

[restive silo]

LMAO OH NO

Nintendo really did go “@ poryleeks 7294.88.019.4”

[ivory prawn]

Ah ok that makes a lot more sense lol

[spare hare]

@ivory prawn
I know your name, "Sacred Faerie"

[ivory prawn]

HOW

[rough kelp]

DAniel TAnner MINERva, we have found you.

[velvet bobcat]

I was just told in a dream that there will be 6 bear Pokémon in the gen 9 dex

consider that official

[spice timber]

yes this is the same guy who freaked out yesterday over getting dm'd his ip address

[velvet bobcat]

he got over it

[spice timber]

he went on a tangent about how his first amendment rights can't be stifled, which i think means he called a lawyer at midnight

[spare hare]

No it means he knows nothing about constitutional rights

Ppl who resort to this as a tangent are like half the time doing something illegal or spreading hate speech and trying to justify it through some lame ass first amendment claim

[spice timber]

this was his tangent

[spare hare]

Also can we keep this drama out of here please

This is barely relevant to actual leaks

Plus this guy has clearly done more than just "report" on what's out there

[spice timber]

yeah i assumed

i'll delete that, mb

god sometimes this stuff just begins to bleed together

thank the lord it'll be over soon

we do have soft confirmation that copies are in the wild now, so i guess it's only a matter of time

[surreal vault]

Sonic frontiers has broken street date today with a release date a few days before SV

It will come soon

[spare hare]

Yea pokemon always leaks like 1-2 weeks before

Since it's a new gen I think we can probably expect it earlier tbh

[spice timber]

yeah, there's a big incentive clout-wise to be had with leaking a new gen compared to a remake without a lot of new designs

i wonder if we'll get a ton of fake roms like what happened with swsh

[spare hare]

By this time next weekend we might be seeing leaks start

[surreal vault]

The
The several gigabytes of....

[spice timber]

top 10 moments in pokemon leak history

[runic prawn]

oh man any minute now

if we get another leaker like that BDSP guy I swear

that was the longest week of my life

although I guess for BDSP since it's a remake it's much worse

like for it a datamine was way more important than just playing the game

for SV just playing the game can reveal a lot of new stuff

[spice timber]

yeah

for SV it's more of a just massive new content dump

while with BDSP it was literally the game's selling points

[surreal vault]

God I wanna see those new mons

[spice timber]

it's so tense, i wanna see the new designs

if they're anything like the mons we've seen so far

[spare hare]

If it's the same timeframe as bdsp they appear next weekend

Isn't that wild

[spice timber]

if anything gets close to this design for me i'm gonna go wild

[spare hare]

Swsh also started leaking with images of the new unrevealed pokemon about 12 or 13 days before launch

Which would also be next weekend

[spice timber]

yeah, swsh leaked with images before it got datamined

[surreal vault]

I NEED to see the ||Dunsparce primape and Bisharp evos|| <--- Leaked stuff

[runic prawn]

BDSP started leaking minutes after I went sleep one day

so like

if it happens again it will be late in the day LOL

[spice timber]

i still remember that dude on 4chan who found a shiny impidimp and then documented both of its evos

[surreal vault]

PLA leaks were wild bro

I was in the middle of class and just suddenly Honse Palkia

[spice timber]

too bad the first images of the mons we got really sucked

those renders did not do the designs justice

[surreal vault]

They did not

Dialga did not leave a good first impression

But Ingame it really is majestic

Those guys are fucking massive

[spice timber]

the origins were executed super well even if their designs aren't traditionally appealing

closest thing we've ever gotten to biblically accurate angels

at least when sv leaks, we'll get better images of the new mons thanks to the box icons being high quality

[spare hare]

Yeah with these sprites and the pokedex images

We'll get good looks at the new mons without having to rely solely on the default models

And it seems to me like it would be easier to extract those

[spice timber]

bonus points if they have shiny sprites there too

[spare hare]

Tbh they should

Bdsp doesn't have them tho right

And it uses the same style

[spice timber]

maybe? idk

[spare hare]

I mean even if they don't have shiny sprites we will see them soon enough at least, maybe not just right away

[spice timber]

yeah, we'll at least get all the designs

either way i'm still gonna beeline towards the nearest armarouge hunting spot

unless another mon captures my heart more

[spare hare]

Tbh wild that ||we still don't know most of the new exclusives officially (the paradoxes)||

[spice timber]

||they've kept paradoxes such a massive secret compared to ubs||, it's crazy

[spare hare]

Also a big part about datamines that is nice is finding out when you can find everything

[spare hare]

We're probably still due for one more major trailer based on the pokemon live thing or whatever they do in Japan

[spice timber]

yeah, mon locations are always nice to get

[spare hare]

So maybe they'll tease it there

[runic prawn]

oh right fair point

[spare hare]

How useful that is just depends if they release it before leaks drop lol

[runic prawn]

actually (not actual spoilers but related) ||when were UBs revealed||

||I know SuMo revealed almost everything but still||

[spare hare]

Nihilego was first shown in august

[spice timber]

like that trailer that dropped for swsh right before the game released that teased runerigus and mr rime

[runic prawn]

oh

[spare hare]

But only as ub-01 symbiont

[spice timber]

jesus, that early?

[spare hare]

Yep

[runic prawn]

SuMo moment

[spare hare]

They didn't show any more until way later though

[runic prawn]

SuMo revealed almost every single new mon and form before release

I remember seeing leaks and it wasn't as fun because there were very few mons unrevealed by then lol

[spice timber]

and then everything else leaked anyways

i will say it sucks earlier on for this new less is more style of reveals

but when we get near release it's way better

[spare hare]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-it-terry-the-ms-pat-show-thats-all-is-that-all-gif-25520856

[spare hare]

Ikr, it'll be awesome seeing the deluge of info during datamines

Pokemon speculation is always most fun then imo

[runic prawn]

YEAH literally

[spare hare]

Considering what's been shown so far we still have ||80+ new pokemon to see||

Which is wild

[spice timber]

the anticipation of several months finally coming to fruition

[spice timber]

||also with unique stuff like the mice mons that we don't know specifics of yet||

||and the paradoxes/cross-gen evos||

[spare hare]

I think the only thing that threw me off guard about sm leaks besides the other ubs/necrozma was araquanid line lol

I almost thought it was another ub at first lol

[spice timber]

considering the stats/gimmicks they gave it, i wouldn't have been surprised lmao

the original dracovish

[ivory prawn]

Me uploading a forgotten land rom made to look like SV

[spice timber]

it's just a 10gb model file of elfilin

[spice timber]

according to this, copies are already being shipped by sellers to customers?

which would be super weird

maybe that's why the ETA is so soon

[spare hare]

that's probably not true

they claimed the same thing with legends

[spice timber]

yeah, i don't trust it

though copium makes me hope it's true

[spare hare]

in terms of datamining gotta wait for the true kings

kaphotics, mattyoukhana, scires

and the new sibuna guy

[spice timber]

i'm thinking more for rom leaks

those guys always go deep dive into the code after everything's blown up

[spare hare]

yea but it's nicer when they present stuff since they actually know how to interpret what they see lol

[spice timber]

yeah 100% agreed

[spare hare]

but yea like, copies usually don't ship out this early and i would be sus since they're the only ones saying this, especially without proof

[spice timber]

from what i know of poryleeks, they have a server that's full of like hyper leak speculators

and they always go into the super nitty gritty stuff when it comes to releases and shipments

i guess i half trust them, but i'm still gonna try to temper myself

[runic prawn]

I assumed it was to reviewers

but idk

[spice timber]

oh yeah maybe

[spare hare]

that's the thing though, the tweet specifies to ppl in general not just reviewers

i don't buy it, and i also think it's pointless to speculate on that when there's no proof of it anyways yet

it just sounds like them doing the same attention seeking tactics they've done in the past lol

[spice timber]

there also isn't a snowball's chance in hell any reviewers leak the game

[spare hare]

honestly for their sakes i hope not lol

all that for a drop of clout

[spice timber]

https://tenor.com/view/christmas-countdown-5days-until-christmas-gif-13095199

[spare hare]

why is this leak season so fucking weird

[surreal vault]

WHAT?????

I WANNA GET OFF THIS LEAK SEASON

[restive silo]

Lmao

||SV was made in Minecraft confirmed||

[spice timber]

WHAT THE FUCK?

[spare hare]

||https://namemc.com/profile/Bellibolt.1
https://namemc.com/profile/Greavard.1||

ig if another trailer is coming we could check here lol

[spice timber]

incredible

[velvet bobcat]

amazing lmao

[runic prawn]

WHAT LOL

[surreal vault]

https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1586481555446599680?s=20&t=U8JlUagjoj7-LALNyHoDQA

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks)

What has happened so far:

• Major media outlets will be getting their review copies starting early next week.

• Nintendo has sent threatening letters to other leak accounts, potentially in anticipation of C&Ds if they post any leaks.

• We will cover all leaks anyways.

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Twitter · Oct 29, 2022, 10:14 PM

Centro will probably be the main leak compiler

[rough kelp]

gonna call my other uncle who worked at nintendo's ninja department brb

[spice timber]

i don't mind centro being the leak compiler, at least they don't really seem to sprinkle drama into shit nowadays?

they basically just summarize stuff seen in leaks/official media/previews nowadays

[serene dagger]

Neutral ending

[surreal vault]

Alleged image of the PC boxes?

Oh shit

Oh shit Oh shit Oh shit

https://twitter.com/Riddler_Khu/status/1586699609707282432?t=OISYRY8RnL69lzSwLOLxjA&s=19

Zodiac Khuller (@Riddler_Khu)

Suggestion for you know whom, play slowly, you dont have day1 patch, its risky af to get burried in bugs.

Twitter · Oct 30, 2022, 12:40 PM

I'm very sorry to have linked Khu 🤢 but this is kinda huge

[surreal vault]

Unconfirmed Image of a Terrastral Steel Rookiedee

[runic prawn]

oh is it starting????

[surreal vault]

Maybe. Not entirely clear as of now

I'll wait for something to definitively show up to say that it's begun

[runic prawn]

fair

I mostly don't believe until we see multiple stuff and/or videos

[runic prawn]

this one is funny because it's so blurry

[spare hare]

This one is probably fake

Apparently the actual original Chinese riddler said the PC one was real though

[surreal vault]

Yes

[spare hare]

So we'll have to just wait

[surreal vault]

But they also said this (translated from Google translate so its pretty shoddy)

[spare hare]

Yea there's no guarantee they post anything else

Presumably this means the copies are out there though, whether through reviewers or otherwise, so much more likely to get something now

This screenshot was so safe though lol it'd be hilarious if they just stopped now

[surreal vault]

I'd be in so much pain

[spice timber]

OH SHIT ALREADY

or is it fake

[surreal vault]

The PC box image is real

That's the only thing we can definitely say so far

[spice timber]

how the fuck did it leak already

[surreal vault]

We know nothing

[spice timber]

i mean i just woke up to this stuff

my jaw is on the floor at the fact that somehow copies are already out

[spice timber]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1030690037999869962/1036297306712059964/IMG_5589.png

[surreal vault]

Lol

[runic prawn]

I am curious about this thing about the day one patch, since like reviewers need to play the game, no?

so needing the day one patch to do stuff would be odd

I do know BDSP did that but the game was playable from start to finish

[spare hare]

actually reviewers playing bdsp for reviews is super wack with that in mind huh

before the day 1 patch there were not only battle midis but literally all of the postgame island wasn't in the game

nor stuff like ramanas park

[spice timber]

also the literal title screen was missing

https://twitter.com/razzuxo/status/1586744582468997123?t=1iyLF1DFcJOpFqJFbwRa4w&s=19

Razzu (@razzuxo)

According to Chinese people,this time, the text and sprites are not available on the cartridge.
For the first time, the game must be connected to the Internet and the data must be synchronized from the cloud to local save file.

Twitter · Oct 30, 2022, 3:39 PM

this isn't confirmed yet, but supposedly a lot of the game's assets are download-only

so when the rom gets leaked, it'll be missing a lot of stuff

that doesn't mean the game won't leak at all, but it means it'll be really funny when people try to emulate the game and it doesn't work

[spare hare]

oh that

really sucks actually

not even just for leaks but in general

ig it depends on how much of the game is playable

[spice timber]

yeeaah, it's lame

we did get that ingame box layout leak with the proper sprites in it, so i think leaks are still inbound

but it'll really suck for people with no internet

[arctic bobcat]

they really are taking leak protection to a new level

[rough kelp]

gamefreak upped their game

[spare hare]

the more i look at this the more this confuses me actually

[surreal vault]

Wait what

[spare hare]

if it's not a day 1 patch but requires you to connect to the internet then i can see it as a way of flushing out non-reviewers but it also makes no sense to punish ppl who accidentally get the game early... and then you also make it more inconvenient for the literal millions of ppl who play this once the game officially releases

[spice timber]

it also might straight-up be false information, we don't know

[spare hare]

if it's a day 1 patch then obviously reviewers are just getting a way worse experience

[surreal vault]

This is so

[spare hare]

seems like an incredibly short sighted solution to preventing leaks in the less than 3 week period before release

[surreal vault]

Strange

[spare hare]

while making it more inconvenient for everyone else for the entire time afterwards

[runic prawn]

yeah like I had a legit physical copy of SuMo one day before release

also there are people with little to no access to internet

so like

if this is true this feels like a bad practice

[surreal vault]

https://twitter.com/razzuxo/status/1586753084067389440

Razzu (@razzuxo)

@cchunter34 @BorgarKingPory @realblaines @3clipse_tt @RuffledRowlit @soulsilverart @pory_leeks you guys misinterpret this, you need to connect to the internet ONCE to download the patch

Twitter · Oct 30, 2022, 4:13 PM

[rough kelp]

ahh

gaming journalism, but in the leak circle

[surreal vault]

But wait the box guy has sprites in the PC

[runic prawn]

well

I guess you can connect and download

but like

nintendo will know your IP.

[spice timber]

oh ok so it's not as bad

[runic prawn]

so datamine is still possible, but people need to be careful

but I assume once someone has the patch they can distribute to others

like DLC

guess we'll have to see

still bad practice; ideally the game should be playable at least, but oh well

[spice timber]

you say this as if the person who inevitably dumps the rom is gonna be cautious about it

[runic prawn]

true LOL

but internet means it's easier for nintendo to track a leaker I would assume

but then VPNs

[velvet bobcat]

omw to set my IP to someone else's house so it's instantly invaded my Nintendo ninjas

[spice timber]

iirc you can just download the update and then dump it anyways

[spare hare]

I think the worst part is that it probably does very little to stop leaks while being an inconvenience for everyone else

If you actually have to download it before even being able to play that's pretty bad

Somehow even worse than what bdsp did lol

[ivory prawn]

Are we sure this isn't just what Khu was talking about with the day 1 patch

[ivory prawn]

Ah lol k

[spice timber]

i think that's what he was talking about, it just got blown out of proportion

[ivory prawn]

Just sounded like badly translated description of a day 1 patch

Well that's funny I literally said for BDSP that day 1 patch for full game was a good idea for killing leaks and this is exactly what they're doing this time instead of just hiding music it seems like

[surreal vault]

https://twitter.com/razzuxo/status/1586761034211201025?t=yssP9VY9_24pr00VjNE5DmDkypp6vNOaL3RaVHMAnhs&s=19

Razzu (@razzuxo)

Since you guys can't get this right, THE REASON THE CHINESE CHARS ARE WRONG IS ME, I USED A FONT THAT DIDN'T SUPPORT ALL THE CHARS because I don't know Chinese. Here is the real text: 这次文本和精灵是和卡带分开的，第一次游戏必须联网，从云端同步数据到本地

Twitter · Oct 30, 2022, 4:44 PM

Bruh

[ivory prawn]

lol when the missing character square

[spare hare]

Well the thing is that that leak has a picture of the PC anyways

And plus day 1 patch doesn't make sense for reviewers

[ivory prawn]

You see the problem is I don't assume GF makes logical decisions

[spare hare]

[surreal vault]

All of those tweets got deleted

Guess they weren't real thankfully

https://twitter.com/nicodoff_real/status/1586748599106404354

Nicodoff Does Art i think. (@nicodoff_real)

@MuerteCollins @Riddler_Khu i made this btw

Twitter · Oct 30, 2022, 3:55 PM

Rookidee image fake

[spare hare]

yea

[spare hare]

also khu confirmed that this was bullshit

[rough kelp]

so there's no NUT and bolt hat

[spare hare]

which makes sense, it made absolutely no sense the more you think about it

[spare hare]

the reason they even chose the steel hat was likely bc khu had a poll recently about what the steel tera hat would look like

and this was one of the options

[spice timber]

oh ok so it was rage bait

[spare hare]

welp time to keep waiting

honestly feels like it might be a one-and-done deal with the pc screenshot guy

my copium says they are simply waiting to post a lot of pics at once

[spice timber]

with the game out this early, i feel like someone's gonna have the balls to post more screencaps

[spare hare]

probably yeah

just a matter of when at this point

[surreal vault]

||https://twitter.com/palkiaorigin/status/1586763129568067584?s=20&t=NFz9w-hEX2ldFXkD4nXPug || Update on leaked dex

PearlEnthusiast (@palkiaorigin)

Quick Update To The Returning Dex:

Added a new notice about the bottom row

Removed Dhelmise since I think the type color is too off and I can't work it out without being certain it goes there.

(This has nothing to do with the leaks or datamine)

Twitter · Oct 30, 2022, 4:53 PM

[spice timber]

||PINCURCHIN||

[restive silo]

||My precious eel||

[rose junco]

wtf, for BDSP this was one thing (it was still mostly complete), but are they really doing this for everything? assuming this is true, this sucks for people who want to get the game on release (moreso without internet)
hopefully there will be cartridge revisions with it patched in, but still bad either way

[spare hare]

already confirmed fake

[rose junco]

oh thank god

[spare hare]

also i agree the concept was awful

[rose junco]

though it wouldn't of surprised me if it was real lmao

because I've seen stuff do that before

[spice timber]

yeah, i think they posted it just to get people riled up

[rose junco]

I mean I wouldn't care too much (I'd just wait to get it if at all), it would just suck for people without internet

[surreal vault]

There's a new image but it's so blurry and doesn't show anything new and probably isn't real so I won't bother posting it

[spice timber]

that sentence perfectly sums up leak season pre-dumps

[spare hare]

if i ever got the game early i wouldn't even leak but like

if i did leak, that shit is going right to kaphotics/mattyoukhana and all of them

[runic prawn]

pre leak season is def wild

btw we've yet to find a real pic of someone like with the game on a store right?

[spare hare]

don't think so

[spice timber]

yeah, no pictures of the game's box yet

which is weird as fuck because that's usually the first thing we get

[soft lava]

It's just under 20 days out from release. They'll probably be out there by next week.

[spare hare]

yeah we're getting really close

swsh first leaked about 13 days from release or so

which would be next saturday

considering that one person posted a legit pic could reasonably see leaks happening within the week even before saturday, but even more likely over the weekend

[spice timber]

i feel like we might get em earlier

considering that copies are out there and people are getting their hands on em

[surreal vault]

We aren't 100% sure if copies are out there

[spare hare]

yea could just be a reviewer and not an actual wild copy

[surreal vault]

We have one legit pic

And we don't know where it came from

[spare hare]

tbh it's almost been 12 hours

[surreal vault]

Yeah

[spare hare]

i'm pretty sure they just posted like the most boring pic possible to avoid getting in trouble

and then dipped lol

[spice timber]

i guess what matters is that it's possible

this is gonna be one awful week for me lmao

[spare hare]

It's technically been more than 12 hours since the PC box pic was originally posted

[spice timber]

i don't think it's a dud, but i think it'll be a while before we get more wackies

[vestal arch]

can't wait for a blurry jpeg of grass

[surreal vault]

Interesting development. A user claiming to have played the game is drawing sketches of the pokemon...which again I won't bother posting until anything of actual significance happens

I'm only bringing this up because I like some of the designs

[serene dagger]

Coalossal evo

Or, rolycoly evo i guess

[spare hare]

I mean that's basically a dud in my eyes lol

Since leaks are bound to happen relatively soon anyways

[spice timber]

oh is there a source? i saw something like that but i didn't know where it came from

i'd like to see em if that's okay

tcg leak 3

[surreal vault]

It's from 4chan

Which obviously isn't a "source"

[spice timber]

oh lmao

[spare hare]

Pretty good compilation of all the leak info so far:
https://pastebin.com/raw/syyudF2w

saw it in a resetera thread

i haven't read through it in full but i skimmed and seemed good

[serene dagger]

Ip grabber

[spare hare]

wait what

[serene dagger]

LMAO im joking

[spare hare]

me sweating bullets

[arctic bobcat]

248.34.127.65

[spare hare]

Lol when more than 24 hours have passed since the PC box guy

On a side note, we've had a major trailer in the first week of each month so far since august

And there was an official pokemon watch party livestream before each one so far, and there's one more of these currently scheduled

So might be getting something this week?

If so I imagine it might be the last official trailer we will probably get before leaks

[runic prawn]

anyone want a possibly fake full list of mon names lol https://pastebin.com/wkPEMccm

apparently came from 4chan so as usual take with a huge grain of salt

oh names and types

the interesting thing is that ||they give here a potential name to the paradox mons||

[spare hare]

||we already know the wiglett evo is named wugtrio, so fake||

Also they're following the order of the new pokemon as listed on that makio site

Which also raises huge red flags lol

And conveniently ||they decide not to name any of the paradox mons either||

[runic prawn]

lol

[spare hare]

Also ||third legendary technically isn't supposed to be in the base game besides pictures, and even if there's a name drop seems incredibly weird to Also know both form names||

[surreal vault]

You know what

Screw it, I'm gonna post the Skribbly leaks

[spare hare]

Oh tbh I would hold off, apparently ||khu said the dark dog starts off orange but that's not what the leaked Pic had||