#The Super Mario Galaxy Movie

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hearty dust
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||OH yeah, I saw how the Luma was floating and my brain went KORB||

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||But the part around the end I swear I heard a Kirby sound effect and someone even looked at me the same time I did||

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||It's really funny how I lit up over that||

dusk owl
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||i will have to rewatch the movie at some point||

timber ravine
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Oh and this was my conclusion on it
#1028032970122076222 message

swift eagleBOT
# timber ravine Oh and this was my conclusion on it https://discord.com/channels/132720341058453...
jann75#0 - #The Super Mario Galaxy Movie

||holy shit that is a good point, sometimes games are greater than movies. Regardless of what you think about this movie, it'll probablyfade from discussion at a similar rate as the first movie, while a new passionfilled tribute or analysis to mario galaxy will get dropped constantly even 20 years, even decades later lol||
https://youtu.be/tU-ro12EidM?si=f9PpnYE_73w7vz-g

hearty dust
dusk owl
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||the movie was so peak man i almost cried like 5 times in the theater from the ost alone 😭 😭 ||

abstract scroll
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||unless they do extended cut I probably won't watch movie in full again||

timber ravine
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||Same, id rather watch the first personally||

signal stirrup
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coming in in risk of spoiler so discord please dont fail me with this

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but

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do yall prefered imax, 3d, or regular

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before I get a ticket

abstract scroll
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oh there's 3D version?

signal stirrup
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like not just mario movies, but in general works as well, or based on first movie

timber ravine
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Idk what that means sorry 😭

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All are probably fine though

signal stirrup
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I watched the first movie in theater normally and also in the airplane but never watched imax or 3d

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but idk which ticket to buy or if theres like "recommendation" for it

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(for the galaxy movie)

hearty dust
hearty dust
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But they give you glasses for it

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My first 3D Experience as well, I thought it was neat!

signal stirrup
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do you think it'll make people motion sick

hearty dust
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Usually watch it without but the tickets for 3D was better because of the seat position

signal stirrup
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cause some 3d movie would do so and some wouldnt based on its movement

hearty dust
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Because someone there had to take off the glasses because of something similar

signal stirrup
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oof

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I wasnt sure cause not every movie will give you motion sickness in 3d

hearty dust
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Plus without the glasses, the movie will look blurry, (it was great with the glasses on and watchable for me)

signal stirrup
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yeah fair

hearty dust
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But Normal Movie without 3D will not look blurry, I meant to clarify just the 3D will do that‐

signal stirrup
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me and the person Im going with (babysitting moment) are deciding rn and

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was debating which one lol

timber ravine
# swift eagle

SPOILERS
||also im repeating what someone else said earlier here in, shoutouts to the spin being a big thing in galaxy game, but the only time he does it in the movie he doesnt need a luma, and is quick and isnt related to anything. Which is so funny since they had him doing the spin all over the promo art LMAO||

hearty dust
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Awww haha

signal stirrup
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I guess IMAX would be best choice in this case and lower risk of getting motion sickness

hearty dust
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When you do see it I do want you to see my spoiler message above 😭 But don't click it yet—

timber ravine
# swift eagle

Only i think id plug this video as a tribute to galaxy and its fans instead of that one
https://youtu.be/9hAJVq0vCjY?si=ZG1EQVoh1IjT-sJo

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Super Mario Galaxy accomplishes several impossible feats for a Mario game, with its non-stop creative game design revolving around space, and its surprisingly moving story that recontextualizes your entire adventure and taps...

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Anyways, uh, enjoy your reading ring

hearty dust
timber ravine
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If you plan to read this, anyway

hearty dust
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I had a headache, but unaware if it was because of the 3D Lol

hearty dust
signal stirrup
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okay lol I'll try and remember that

signal stirrup
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self pinging so I can check later easier

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so excited

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Its a miracle I have 0 spoiler shown yet

hearty dust
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Alrighty! I hope you enjoy the movie later too!

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And same until I saw it, continue to stay spoiler free

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🫡

signal stirrup
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me avoiding twitter as much as possible (I trust this server too much with spoiler tags llol)

timber ravine
hearty root
rigid depot
timber ravine
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||i think it might just be a stock sound effect, ive heard it in TV shows before too||

hearty dust
rigid depot
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||It really is “blink and you miss it”||

lethal forge
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A great portion of people like it, yeah, but also that they don’t care enough to post it online

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they are going to be many people who don't like it for obvious reasons (incohesive plot, childish jokes, insane pacing) and some that acknowledge it's a messy movie but like it anyway for other reasons (good animation, intense action, fun fanservice etc.)

violet hollow
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||bowser kissing a man on the big screen is just an amazing thing to me imo||

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also my general consensus with the movie is that ||this is literally what the Flash Animation Mario era of fandom (the one that really loves fight scenes) would literally make in today's day and age||

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Insane ||fight scene choreography and like Okay there's no story but like The Choreography. guys.||

violet hollow
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||bowser bisexual propaganda thank you illumination||

lethal forge
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||Biser.||

violet hollow
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like this doesnt happen but

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This Can happen

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he's litearlly done it

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does anyone have that image of ||bowser's painting where Bowser Peach Rosalina and amazingly Luigi is also there supposedly admiring Bowser||

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because i really cant stop thinking about it

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ok here's my image

novel frigate
pastel igloo
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||Oh dude my friend is crashing out over the "peach and rosa are sisters" twist||

lethal forge
violet hollow
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WE ALL KNEW THAT! ! !!

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I DIDNT KNOW HE ||LIKED LUIGI!!!||

lethal forge
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||I guess illumnation was happy to accomodate all the shippers.||

lunar thunder
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||Their color pallette reminds me of Private Goomp.||

lethal forge
mortal osprey
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one of my main thoughts having just watched the movie myself

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||god itd be so funny if star fox got a movie and its just an adaptation of star fox 64 again||

lunar thunder
compact roost
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OH GOD my aunt is actually going to see the Mario Galaxy Movie lmfao

compact roost
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God I wish lmao

lethal forge
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klonoa 3

green vector
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need more 3d nintendo character movie...

cedar notch
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need more tendo nin

tacit copper
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speaking of klonoa

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reminder that a klonoa movie was planned at one point

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and they cancelled it (understandably because nobody knows klonoa outside of the west)

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but still crazy to think we could had gotten a klonoa movie years before the first mario movie

violet hollow
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story spoilers

silver holly
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oh

tame basin
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||so mario galaxy movie was actually faithful to galaxy||

tacit heron
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I saw the movie after

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It was insanely fast paced and had way too much crammed into the plot

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It had no time to breathe and the plot just existed to have it go set piece to set piece

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However

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I’m not immune to the jingling keys of Mario and Nintendo references

topaz wind
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pretty much my thoughts too lol

tacit heron
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I’m glad I went early Easter Sunday morning when all the kids are busy egg hunting

odd crescent
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im a big mario fan

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but like it really does nothing for me just seeing this stuff

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i need some meat on those bones

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it just feels so deluded to do it cause its very easy to put in a reference to something

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my question become how long till people start feeling the same

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after th third or fourth movie

novel frigate
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checking out the OST and unfortunately the the score for the casino isn't there

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so no ||jump up superstar remix|| to listen to for now I suppose

odd crescent
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||i feel like it showing up for the casino part was jsut not super fitting. I think it should have been the circus theme from 3D world||

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||which in it of itself has loose ties to mario 2||

dusty jetty
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Honest Trailers will probably call Rosalina ||Haru Okumura from Persona 5||

tame basin
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😢

barren spear
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||I remember getting genuinely upset at this in the same vein as Bowser slamming Kamek’s fingers in the first movie lmao||

tacit copper
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||shoutout to the movie for making wart interesting in literally any way||

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||the bubble stuff is very cool||

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||him being a jabba type character living in the goddamn minus world was cool||

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||my favourite non-galaxy thing from this movie is the minus world city. i think its kinda dumb how its all within gateway galaxy instead of being its own planet, but turning such a famous glitch into an area is very cool||

tacit heron
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||I saw some people point to the random video call he has with Bowser Jr as being unresolved but like isn’t it obvious he’s just calling him to warn Jr that Peach is on her way to Space Junk?||

fair linden
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i am currently in the movie theater 5 minutes before the movie starts

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i sure hope the writing is ass but that that doesn't matter because there's a billion references to point at!

tacit copper
urban relic
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||I mean, he serve his role in the movie I guess.||

tacit heron
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||He will be the main villain in the direct to streaming Toad series||

novel frigate
mortal osprey
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||hes just sorta there on the ship like the writers didnt know what to do with him||

tacit copper
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||oh what the hell thats so true. did not even realize||

mortal osprey
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also ||anyone else feel like the ending was abrupt as hell? like its just kinda like "oh wait thats it?"||

tacit copper
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yea that feeling is shared across a lot of people

lunar thunder
tacit copper
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||even my youngest brother who is only here for the funny characters found the ending super abrupt||

lunar thunder
mortal osprey
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||it legit feels like an ending you churn out when you realize youre running low on time on screen||

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||like they wrote the script as a whole around the screentime the film actually has||

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||hence the absolutely breakneck pace of it all||

tacit heron
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||The runtime isn’t even like bad it’s just that they tried to fit as much as they could into it||

mortal osprey
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||like, the finale with the dragon from odyssey is kinda neat but it dies after being on screen for like, a minute or two||

tacit heron
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||Another thing I noticed from my watch earlier this morning is like are they just going to gloss over the “evil” that tried to take Rosalina and Peach’s cosmic powers in their backstory? The fuck was that about?||

mortal osprey
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||sequel bait but done horribly likely||

tame basin
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||its tatanga prob lol||

silver holly
mortal osprey
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||its kinda odd cause the first movie didnt have that problem||

signal stirrup
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dang

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I can’t check in

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Is it region locked 😭

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(Movie app)

silver holly
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I forgot about the check in

signal stirrup
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It says I can do it at this theater

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But it’s not letting me

silver holly
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but maybe it expects it to match your region

signal stirrup
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That’s STUPID

silver holly
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rip

signal stirrup
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🪦

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Oh well movie starting

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Wow yeah it’s def region locked or the Japanese region says “it releases in 24th” and doesn’t work till than??

hearty dust
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😭

signal stirrup
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Idk if I’m actually missing out on anything?? I see check in button but it doesn’t work when I click on it

lunar thunder
pastel igloo
timber ravine
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@tacit copper I thought was funny

tacit copper
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that scene is so comically out of character

tacit copper
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||luigi is perfect but mario is so mean with bowser in this movie. even if he doesnt trust bowser i feel like game mario would at least pretend to just to not start a fight||

fair linden
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anyway here's all my thoughts on the movie copypasted from my twitter

||that sure was a super mario movie that, while primarily based on super mario galaxy, barely followed any of its plot beats and instead took a lot of unexpected routes, which were actually not unexpected at all because at least half the movie was spoiled in promotional material

the pacing was as inconsistent as the first movie, though i honestly think it worked well enough for most of the film until the final act which felt insanely rushed

i think the bowser and bowser jr stuff was pretty great though also felt a bit rushed at the end

fox was honestly one of my favorite parts even though i've never played star fox

yoshi is yoshi

i wish there was a lot more rosalina, and also more galaxy stuff in general

the ending felt very anti-climactic, i really wish it was actually based on the galaxy 1 ending

the post-credits scene was cool but i honestly still have no idea what the third movie could be about LOL||

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however i can't say i didn't geek the fuck out when ||they actually used the red star||

fair linden
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||HOW DID I ONLY GET TWO OF THEM RIGHT 😭😭😭 WHY DID I PUT THE RAINBOW STAR INSTEAD OF THE RED STAR!?!?||

tacit copper
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||red star in the game is such a special power up that mario has to go thru a whole challenge just to be worthy of using it and then its just hanging out in a random block in the movie||

fair linden
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||WAIT I JUST REALIZED HE DIDN'T EVEN DO THE FUCKING SPIN EXCEPT FOR LIKE ONCE WITH THE RED STAR?!?!?!||

tacit copper
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LITERALLY

fair linden
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image spoiler failed thanks discord

tacit copper
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We were discussing that earlier

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false advertising

fair linden
tacit copper
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||no poison mushroom|| but the zombie mushroom from mario maker makes a cameo

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this has been revealed in the trailer already

fair linden
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unironically one of my favorite parts was ||the over the top 2d animated star fox backstory, it was genuinely pretty funny and i like how they addressed him canonically being from a different universe||

fair linden
tacit copper
fair linden
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checking the mario wiki page

||HE DOES!??!?!||

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||oh yeah that reminds me, yoshi montage was peak||

fair linden
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i gotta do something

barren spear
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||Oh yeah he does||
||I saw a clip on Twitter lemme grab it||

fair linden
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i can't wait for this movie's soundtrack to release

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oh yeah about the soundtrack

||i REALLY appreciate how there was no random licensed music this time around
but also i feel like the main leitmotif of the movies was a bit overused and there was not that much mario galaxy music (correct me if i'm wrong but i didn't even hear the honeyhive galaxy music in honeyhive galaxy???)||

novel frigate
fair linden
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also why did the ending ||end with a bunch of super mario world sprites and then the main power-up from super mario world
in the mario GALAXY movie that was formerly "leaked" to be called super mario world i think||

fair linden
novel frigate
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fine

fair linden
lunar thunder
fair linden
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WAIT SHIT I JUST REALIZED ||I ACCIDENTALLY SAW SOMEONE MENTION THE MOVIE HAD A KIRBY REFERENCE BUT I DIDN'T CATCH IT||

dusty jetty
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This movie is basically ||just the first one but in space||

fair linden
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||it's not really a movie about mario galaxy
it's moreso a mario movie about the galaxy||

dusty jetty
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||only called mario galaxy because space||

novel frigate
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||is it really false advertising in the slightest||

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||it's not like the first movie stuck to just stuff in the first game||

timber ravine
# tacit copper that scene is so comically out of character

Ita funny since it actually reminds me of fanon mario and fanon luigi a bit - where whike it wouldn't be incharacter for either of them, when people need a mario brother that is more wary, more likely to walk away from helping people, less quick to trust, more sassy, more emotional, and again more wary
They keep choosing mario and not the guy whose entire personality in a series with very simple writing is WARINESS lol.
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxtW8jnJV8cs5m9GEySI1NvdZ18eHhJkSt?si=BsiGr7Opx3yw5sgf

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17 seconds · Clipped by Jann75 · Original video "Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story - All Bosses (No Damage)" by ProsafiaGaming

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And then they make luigi the more charitable one. Presumably because luigi is given the cinnamon roll treatment in the fandom, but it ends up somehow making mario more like luigi, and luigi more like mario, which is funny because how do fandoms flanderize a mario character they have one personality trait lol

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(Spoiler free)

timber ravine
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I said this before and I repeat

barren spear
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||The Cloud and Drill combo was so mean||

fair linden
timber ravine
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tl;dr i enjoyed the references, but i dislike it not because of it's weak plot, but smg is one of the most revered games of all time and it deserved a less weak tributewise to it (with somewhat deceptive advertising that almost purposefully ||makes certain galaxy elements look more focused on than were||)
Play super mario galaxy lol
I'll pin this in my note server actually lol

fair linden
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every smash ultimate character that has appeared IN-PERSON in a movie (to my knowledge, please correct any mistakes because i am not knowledgeable on all of these franchises)
including upcoming movies that are releasing relatively soon (pretty much just the live-action zelda movie lol), but not canceled movies
not including tie-ins for anime tv shows like kirby right back at ya or pokemon, only big-boy movies
also not including alternate versions (young link and toon link, dr. mario, sheik, and zero suit samus) as their own characters
also also not including alternate costumes

green = has appeared in an animated super mario movie
lime = has appeared in a different animated movie
yellow = has appeared in a live-action movie in animated form (more common than you'd think)
orange = has appeared in a live-action movie in live-action form
gray = has not appeared in any movie
removed = alternate version of a character

surreal moss
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Alright, gonna see the movie

surreal moss
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Theater is decked out with Mario stuff

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also they're playing Mario Music for this pre-start thingy

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Also also damn these seats are comfy we're just at a default screening

urban relic
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||is it a plot hole for Rosalina and Peach to not meet with each other before the movie when the movie itself have the "evil forces is out to get them due to their powers"|| idk

urban relic
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||saw someone saying Rosalina not meeting Peach before the plot is a plot hole||

lethal forge
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I think disliking the movie ||because it’s not a sole tribute to Galaxy when at the end of day, it’ll get more people to play Galaxy is ironic||

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Not wrong but that’s how these movies are regardless of their narrative quality: ||they’re a net good for the franchise empirically speaking||

timber ravine
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||i assume the evil forces lost peach when she went to the mushroom kingdom||

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||and it seems she isnt known of universewide iirc, or at the very least isnt known as a god||

lethal forge
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||I also feel like she never was intended to be God herself, Rosalina was always just more of a higher being, but never God. That was the fans making her as such||

timber ravine
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||if anything it just highlight how its kinda funny how thry jandwabed how rosalina herself escaped them lol||

sand cliff
urban relic
sand cliff
timber ravine
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||or how she became the mother of the observatory, which im not saying was good or bad, but ironically enough was the entire point of rosalina's storybook/them coming up with rosalina's storybook lol||

lethal forge
signal stirrup
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FINISHED THE MOVIE

fair linden
signal stirrup
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WAHHHH

fair linden
urban relic
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|| if they add an additional scene for Peach and Rosalina the movie would better sell the theme.||

||Tho Bowser and Bowser Jr are well developed.||

timber ravine
fair linden
# fair linden ha

also screw all the people who spoiled ||peach and rosalina being sisters like FIVE DIFFERENT FUCKING TIMES on twitter with literally no way to hide these tweets because they somehow had ZERO keywords related to the movie||

sand cliff
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Anyways, predictions for next movie are ||Daisy (confirmed), Wario, Waluigi and (since they'll probably confirm who went after Rosalina and Peach/adapt Land) Tatanga||

lethal forge
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||I wish the movie had an extended edition for dvds and what not lol||

fair linden
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also like
this has to be intentional right

fair linden
violet hollow
lethal forge
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||a reviewer said that the bowser and jr relationship really just needed 1 more scene to fix the sudden heel turn and I believe that||

fair linden
sand cliff
signal stirrup
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||SCREAMED AT RANDOM KIRBY REFERENCE!! Okay that’s all I need to recover first||

timber ravine
# sand cliff ||Obvious sequel bait.||

||^. oh yeah it is ironic that they made a story point to explain why peach and rosalina got separated set up in the first movie, and then they partially dont explain why peach and rosalina got separated and make it a tease for a different movie instead lol||

timber ravine
lunar thunder
fair linden
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||I'M SAVED (oh and so is this server lol)||

urban relic
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The movie

Animation is a 5/5

Story is a 1.5-2/5

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I still like it tho

timber ravine
urban relic
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despite all it's flaws

timber ravine
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Understandable!

tame basin
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illumination make the best fight scenes in the animation industry i swear

timber ravine
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Honestly im just glad that people can acknowledge the movies strong and weak points lol

signal stirrup
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This was one of the only pic I took rip

fair linden
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OH SHIT I FORGOT TO SCAN A POSTER IN MY NINTENDO TODAY APPP!!!

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ah whatever it was just like fucking wallpapers anyway

signal stirrup
lethal forge
fair linden
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😭

signal stirrup
urban relic
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I hope the next movie get better writers

But

lowkey still have more hope for a spin off writing wise than a Mario movie tbh

signal stirrup
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They give you thank you message I think?

timber ravine
fair linden
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The user is also able to do a "Theater Check-In" from April 1, 2026 by scanning the film's poster in theaters with the app to access a commemorative photo frame, a set of three smartphone wallpapers, and the check-in history about where and when they watched the film.
wowww i missed so much

sand cliff
urban relic
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also a pretty neat thing about Universal movie is no AI training allow

lunar thunder
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||I'd give the 3D models and animation a 10/10, the music a 9/10 and the story a 2/10 (I'd give the first movie's a 5/10).||

signal stirrup
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I think it’s stupid that this is region locked

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I can’t do checkin in US theater

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Because I have Japanese account

sand cliff
lunar thunder
signal stirrup
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It’s too late lol

snow cedar
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Only for like major corporations they actually had the promotion

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(I don't go to AMC lol)

urban relic
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||I don't even think the characterizations are bad or anything. If I were to rank each character by how much I like them tho...||

timber ravine
urban relic
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||Bowser, Junior, Yoshi and Fox are all on top.||

timber ravine
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||and a tonnnn of characters got shafted or outright done dirty||

snow cedar
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The animation is doing a lot of the carrying work and it's astonishing that a lot of critics dismiss that

timber ravine
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The animation is great yeah

urban relic
fair linden
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so like
||why did rosalina never actually visit peach if she has a fucking spaceship that can go where ever and also has a whole book about her||

signal stirrup
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So uhm

I went with my father’s coworker’s family
Their child’s first ever movie and movie theater
He loved it so much, so it was wholesome

lethal forge
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||I heard hotel Transylvania has brilliant animation but it didn’t stop the critics from tearing it apart||

sand cliff
urban relic
timber ravine
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But I think that's because the other aspects of a movie are more central and good graphics wouldn't be able to save a hypothetical really unfun story

fair linden
snow cedar
timber ravine
sand cliff
signal stirrup
timber ravine
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||mean sister smh||

urban relic
# fair linden what

||iirc in the backstory it was said evil forces is after the two for their powers and it might be likely if they reunite these evil forces will come back. ||

||Which is probably a sequel hook as well||

snow cedar
lethal forge
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I’m being frank but you can make a 1000 valid critiques but ||illuimination just makes critic proof movies||

tame basin
lethal forge
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These films don’t bomb

snow cedar
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||The supposed real reason is to avoid having the two close for power purposes but uh that just gets thrown out of nowhere||

urban relic
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||this is the speculation ||right?

lethal forge
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Families will be happy to send their kids to the theaters to have a good time

tame basin
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||also why did she throw peach down the pipe? how did she escape the evil thing that was chasing them and why didnt she go with her?||

lethal forge
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It’s what they put up with for like

fair linden
# tame basin ||Game Theory: Is Rosalina a Bad Sister?||

||oh yeah, of course like always game theory was completely wrong and yet completely right, this time about peach and rosalina being related
they just didn't have the right incarnations of the characters to theorize about yet||

lethal forge
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Paw patrol

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lol

snow cedar
tame basin
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damn

signal stirrup
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||No King Boo… Only the very minor references… No Luigi’s Mansion… 0/10 movie…||

lethal forge
tame basin
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no

timber ravine
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Tbh, regular reminder even if the movie was hypothetically bad, you're still allowed to point at the screen and go "WOW THAT'S A REFERENCE"

urban relic
tame basin
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can we admit we liked the movie here and enjoyed the references

urban relic
lethal forge
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I was hoping ||the movie would be as good as migration on the story department||

snow cedar
timber ravine
tame basin
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yay

snow cedar
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And that one is a lot less memorable

timber ravine
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Also fun fact, rotten tomatoes is clickbait

snow cedar
lethal forge
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||its probably why Nintendo likes working with Illumination lol: safe money guaranteed and easy to work with||

tame basin
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why do we trust the opinions of movie reviewers anyways

timber ravine
lethal forge
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||disney has talented studios but control freaks and hard to deal with suits||

tame basin
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i feel like after a certain amount of movies you start to get desensitized to real cinema

fair linden
urban relic
snow cedar
carmine oyster
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Going to see the movie for the second time

This time with my dad

snow cedar
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Alongside video algorithms if you aren't avoiding spoilers too

urban relic
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Like whenever people brought up which animation studio Nintendo should work with nobody consider if the studio in question is easy for Nintendo to work with and exert their influence

timber ravine
lethal forge
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Like ||of course Pixar would be great but hard to count on since Disney bought them||

snow cedar
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||And a lot of other animation studios are on the brink of debt too||

timber ravine
lethal forge
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||if they still remained independent, I would ofc want Pixar to instantly work with Nintendo||

urban relic
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Illumination is the safest choice for Nintendo and probably one of the easiest studio to work with for movies

sand cliff
lethal forge
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||I think someone like Daniel Chong would be a good fit for the Mario movies||

timber ravine
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Yeah its probably because illumination is safe

urban relic
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The problem with Illumination is just the writer they hire.

timber ravine
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Actually I think they said it was "because they make kids movies and make lotsa money"

lethal forge
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||I don’t think it’s completely on the writer||

snow cedar
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Remember Miyamoto still played a hand in directing the movie

lethal forge
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||you can make the most beautiful script known to mankind, would it actually translate to film during the process?||

urban relic
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At least from the interviews I read ||the main theme of this movie is about family. Which i can see but it is mostly though Bowser and Junior's interaction.||

snow cedar
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It would probably be a tough sell for an adaptation of a video game without the involvement from the original creators

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(assuming they're still active)

urban relic
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||they just need some additional scenes with Rosalina and Peach for the theme to be fully realize.||

timber ravine
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Fun fact: reminder illumination literally said their entire MO is literally to prioritize making money at the cost of anything else iirc

urban relic
lunar thunder
tame basin
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and nintendo said they wanted to make movies to entertain people and let them have fun

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nintendo can train the evil illumination company to do its bidding

urban relic
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Illumination apparently have good working conditions for their animators and is anti AI...

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The main problem is just... mediocre movies.

snow cedar
lethal forge
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I think it’s like easy to want better things

urban relic
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I think Illumination should make a step forward sooner than later tho

tame basin
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they already are

urban relic
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Too bad the man behind the adult division left

tame basin
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you want adult movies deefear

lethal forge
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They got the JJK director

urban relic
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For themes and such

snow cedar
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To be fair Nintendo was primarily aimed for families in mind

lethal forge
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What could go wrong

lunar thunder
urban relic
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But the choreography in the movie is pretty good

tame basin
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these fight scenes felt like anime

lethal forge
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||is it a rumor||

snow cedar
lethal forge
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||feels like illumination could be poaching top talent imo||

urban relic
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I need to check the credits, but the rumor is a JJk director left for a French Animation studio

timber ravine
lunar thunder
urban relic
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Anyways I will still wait to see how does a Donkey Kong movie turn out

snow cedar
urban relic
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I think some flaws could be solved if the IP isn't Mario

lethal forge
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||say what you want but as a work place, illumination will treat you better than Mappa lol||

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||especially if you’re talented||

snow cedar
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I saw someone on TVTropes try to post a review that PPG 2016 wasn't bad as more it was mediocre/mid; the replies to that review were just gruesome

lethal forge
#

I think some of issues that Bored Fran is talking about makes sense

urban relic
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I like movies that will have people gut me for liking them.

snow cedar
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The reviewer literally got verbally skinned alive

timber ravine
lethal forge
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||good animation has been taken for granted, you don’t get this stuff without any thought put into the choreo||

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But I think people are also naturally wired to look at the things that didn’t work

snow cedar
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Not to mention there is still a noticeable quality difference between real work and AI

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(I don't think I can mention more though because of the no genAI discussion rule though)

urban relic
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||Bowser Jr creating a Kaizo level||

lethal forge
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||like even my brain still went into happy mode for a 3 second DK cameo||

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lol

timber ravine
snow cedar
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Unfortunately yes
That same reviewer placed it within the same level as Mighty Magiswords in a later review

lethal forge
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||that 1 reviewer probably should just be ignored, they even hate the good animated movies||

snow cedar
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On the other hand the Galaxy movie is getting a bit warm reviews on TVTropes

snow cedar
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||Ie an entirely user contributed site||

timber ravine
snow cedar
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Just the miscellany non-overtly dud episodes are just overhated according to them (particularly from later seasons)

timber ravine
timber ravine
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Anyways mario?

snow cedar
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On TVTropes the movie has some warm reviews there

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I have yet to see a serious negative user review online

lethal forge
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I think tv tropes is also way more into their own nerd culture if that makes sense

snow cedar
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(as in the same level I've seen with critics)

lethal forge
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Rotten is more public and movie enthusiastic

timber ravine
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Tvtropes still calls the mario series tge "Super Mario Bros." Series for some reason

urban relic
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||you know people were predicting Fury Bowser in the finale before the movie release.... but Dry Bowser is cool||

timber ravine
hearty dust
tacit heron
lethal forge
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started off ok but so lifeless near the end lol

violet hollow
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i think its really funny how ||the movie is satisfying to me for Bowser and Bowser Jr but everything else is kinda just. That sure is Mario||

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which is funny because this is exactly how i view the regular series anyway

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movie crafted for my view

signal stirrup
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||I wish there was more buildup between Bowser and Bowser Jr, especially because it was so fast with how Bowser quickly went from “Wait Idk if I wanna kill Mario” to “Omg let’s kill everyone”||

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||otherwise they were so cute together and I wish they got 90% of screentime||

surreal moss
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Bro it really was just ||Hype moments and aura||

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Pretty fair movie but yeah some of these decisions confused me

deep skiff
lethal forge
deep skiff
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||Not that he needs to have issues but like. I do think there just needed to be more between them ||

abstract scroll
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||again this whole movie would have worked better as a series lol||

deep skiff
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||Like at least let them talk it out a lot more if you wanna have a family theming||

signal stirrup
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||it took him 30 seconds to change his mind||

lethal forge
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||sure but I question if the animation would be as good if it became a tv series.||

abstract scroll
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||I mean depends on the length||

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||but I don't really care too much as long as it's still good||

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||some of the best parts aren't even in the normal style anyway||

deep skiff
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||I do still think jr is easily the best character in the movie though||

abstract scroll
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||Jr. is definitely badass||

signal stirrup
# deep skiff ||It bugs me there was that buildup with bowser saying "man I've been a crummy d...

||I feel like Jr should’ve listened carefully of what Bowser with how he was worried about the whole issues and how he “kinda” made up with Mario and had some sympathy for it. But at same time it’s like “yeah the child who doesn’t listen and only wants to do what his father dreamed of in past”||

||Hard thing to really say, but I do think extra 1 min of Bowser and Jr talking about how much they missed out on each of their life would’ve been helpful||

lethal forge
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||I don’t think bowser jr needs any daddy issues but Bowser should be given more time to have fun with his son and they spend time catching up||

signal stirrup
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||Jr is still the best of them all. And loved the Mario Maker reference||

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||I loved how both of them were flabbergasted when Mario and Peach cleared it||

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||I get about the whole tempo thing, but I wish Jr cried for extra 3 min and be sad for Bowser falling in lava and Mario felt more sympathy for it lol||

jovial wyvern
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||The paintbrush turning into different weapons will certainly be used again at some point, whether that's in a game or in other media||

deep skiff
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||I mainly would have liked if they did more to make him distinct from his father as an antagonist. Like they hinted that his methods are way more brutal than his father's - it would have been fun to see them double down on that lol||

signal stirrup
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Personal rating
Visuals: 10/10
Animation: 10/10
References: 10/10
||Story: 8/10||

||0/10 story because it’s missing actual King Boo||

deep skiff
#

True!

barren spear
lethal forge
barren spear
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||Like its very on the nose but its also stupidly endearing||

signal stirrup
#

Oh yeah funny story ||When Fox came out, a kid near me screamed “ITS A FURRY AHHHHH”||

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😭 😭 😭 😭 😭

deep skiff
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We all thought this when watching the movie

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I speak for all of us

barren spear
signal stirrup
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Also funny story, I got spoilered by people that was coming out of the previous showing

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🪦

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It’s not funny at all….

jovial wyvern
deep skiff
signal stirrup
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When my worst enemy was people coming out of the movie theater talking about ending spoilers

deep skiff
#

Horrible of them

abstract scroll
barren spear
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||Honestly I’d love to see them handle a Star Fox movie||

signal stirrup
barren spear
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😭 😭 😭

signal stirrup
#

🪦 🪦 🪦

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genuinely SCREW YOU

jovial wyvern
surreal moss
jovial wyvern
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||Also said forms, look so actual "cool", especially in motion||

signal stirrup
#

||I love the animation lol||

deep skiff
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||I've seen a lot of ppl enamored by Wart as well lmao||

signal stirrup
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||Wart getting cliffhanger </3 (moreso barely any showing)||

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||Me thinking bro gets more than Fox but Fox literally got the most amount of screentime||

surreal moss
#

[Major Fucking Plot Point]
||Yeah I know that the movies should be considered a different continuity at this point but SINCE WHEN WERE THEY SISTERS||

jovial wyvern
#

||But the animation works outside of that anyway||

signal stirrup
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Me staring at the screen for ||Magolor|| for no actual reason /srs

surreal moss
#

[Still on the Major Fucking Plot Point]
||Not just sisters ohh nononono, since when was Peach GOD?!||

deep skiff
#

||The kirby reference makes me so scared. Illumination I'm begging you do Not||

signal stirrup
#

||Oh my god yeah I was like “oh” when I saw the Rosalina and Peach relationship lol||

jovial wyvern
#

||You could at least say, that characters feel alive in these movies, because of said animation/focusing more on said characters in shots||

surreal moss
#

Listen last time I checked
[Still on the MF Plot Point]
||Peach had star powers in RPG's...||

signal stirrup
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||Me when the Rosalina was girlbossing but in return she got screentime only at beginning and ending||

jovial wyvern
surreal moss
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I've just been having that one scene from ||Wreck it Ralph|| playing in my head whenever something happens

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||They invited Pikmin to this movie? Those nectar sucking bugs aren't even a part of this game!||

signal stirrup
novel frigate
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||the surprising part is less that Rosalina is Peach's sister and more that peach has the same powers as her because it's like whoa and she's been using a parasol this whole movie||

signal stirrup
#

When I click it it sends me to lethal company chat

hearty dust
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||I still keep thinking I heard a Kirby sound effect at the end in the building scene lol||

surreal moss
novel frigate
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||like it's absolutely one of those things that feels like it needs more elaboration or foreshadowing but there's no breathing room for it so you have to accept it comes out of nowhere||

hearty dust
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||Also Fox getting emotional over the Arwing 😭||

surreal moss
signal stirrup
#

It’s a discord bug

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It shows as message replied to something else unrelated

jovial wyvern
#

Classic Discord moment

signal stirrup
#

And it’s not letting me jump to the original message (now it’s sending me to magma’s message from 30 min ago)

jovial wyvern
signal stirrup
#

Discord mobile please stop breaking

jovial wyvern
#

Yukkuri73 is going through the Discordia Dimension

signal stirrup
#

Horrible

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Also this movie made me wanna watch in Japanese so badly and I’m excited to watch it in May

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Since I’ll be home

barren spear
white rock
#

||Mr. Game and Watch… ||

signal stirrup
#

This basically

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I wish people would NOT talk about it till they’re in a car or in their house

jovial wyvern
signal stirrup
#

Im hoping I can get the cards in time

barren spear
lethal forge
#

I heard the characterization was different for the JP dub of the first movie

signal stirrup
#

Kinda yeah

white rock
#

||Yukkuri what did you think about the Mr. Game and Watch cameo?||

signal stirrup
#

Not super a lot tho

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But it’s nice seeing in 2 different language

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Bowser is same voice actor as Leongar

lethal forge
#

Apparently peach is more rude in the jp dub?

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Bowser is more “evil” in the JP dub but I question that part

signal stirrup
#

Might just be because I’m used to the style in Japanese but it didn’t really felt that much lol

lethal forge
#

Ahhh okay

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It could be weebs exaggerating the differences @signal stirrup

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Mamoru Mario though

signal stirrup
#

Ill rewatch both language later

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And will let you know if I remember lol

deep skiff
#

"Rude" that reminds me btw
||wtf was the "rude humor" moment in this movie that that one interview referred to. yoshi laying eggs is all I can think of and that doesn't count||

signal stirrup
#

||I can’t believe we need to censor something Yoshi has been doing for long time||

lethal forge
#

||I think it might have helped for the Rosa fans if Jr stole her powers rather than kidnap her

That way she’s active but isn’t as powerful and isn’t like Peach when it comes to trained martial arts||

novel frigate
signal stirrup
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||also bowser kissing mario… ong…||

jovial wyvern
surreal moss
deep skiff
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||i'm seeing people online get queerbaited by the mario movie. Losing chess to a dog||

lethal forge
#

||you can’t queerbait something g that was never there in the first place||

surreal moss
#

Wait hold on a damn minute...

lethal forge
#

||peach and Rosa never flirt in the games

It’s not fucking there!||

surreal moss
#

||Peach has god powers but I never once saw Bowser using magic... what is going on?!||

white rock
jovial wyvern
surreal moss
#

||Where's BOWSER'S PALPATINE POWERS NINTENDO||

deep skiff
surreal moss
#

||bowsexual||

lethal forge
white rock
#

||We got Yaoi but no Yuri||

barren spear
#

||that wetass smooch he gave Mario was crazy||

lethal forge
surreal moss
#

||Bro you've seen the Mario Movie||

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||You should know what went down there||

deep skiff
#

||partially in jest but moreso about ppl seriously thinking Nintendo is subtly representing an lgbt character. Like man they do not care I promise 😭||

signal stirrup
#

||They just felt like doing it||

deep skiff
#

||i love characters being Gay but ppl are bad at discerning when something is just a gag||

signal stirrup
#

||Whats wrong with turtle kissing a men smh||

lethal forge
#

||Quuerbaiting would imply they hint that Bowser is gay only that he isn’t because we already know he wants to wed Peach.||

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||his love for Luigi might be less messed up||

signal stirrup
#

||I also loved that Fox and Mario got along||

lethal forge
#

||I think Bowser could be read as Bi and I’m for it but I’m not going to like expect them doing it seriously||

surreal moss
#

||Bro is so chill about this guy despite having literal merchandise of him||

deep skiff
tacit copper
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||mario and fox were expected to have some rivalry over peach but honestly im very glad they just turned that expectation into a fun bit where they get super well along||

barren spear
urban relic
#

||I wonder if we are gonna get a 2D animated Star Fox movie in that style||

tacit copper
#

||hope so!||

signal stirrup
#

Thanks for replying to wrong message discord

tacit copper
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||i dont think illumination has ever done anything in that style, but it could be a first||

jovial wyvern
#

||Also, Another Dimension moment, what does this mean?||

urban relic
#

||Kirby Movie where they reveal Another Dimension connects all Nintendo Movie universes smh||

white rock
tacit copper
signal stirrup
urban relic
lethal forge
#

My ultimate dream is ||that the DK movie will be as good as the Migration movie||

white rock
#

||Migration…||

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||What a great movie that was ||

tacit copper
#

||migration was very unfortunate to be sandwiched between two huge movies cuz in the end nobody saw it||

barren spear
tacit copper
#

||i heard good things about it tho||

lethal forge
#

||it still did well in spite of it all though||

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||three times the budget it made is good||

tacit copper
#

||yeah!||

tacit copper
lethal forge
#

||migration is the reason why I thought the movie had a chance to be good on the story ;(||

barren spear
#

You’re welcome

signal stirrup
#

Oh my god

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Moana live action poster was next to the Mario poster

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I avoided checking the live action trailer and it failed

white rock
#

Like live action Lilo and Stitch

lethal forge
#

||maybe I’m also just like

More apologetic for 3D animation in general? I rather watch beautiful and gorgeous 3D animation than live action adaptation slop but that’s a low bar||

signal stirrup
#

Where’s my 2026 version live action Mario Movie

novel frigate
#

I didn't see it before my view of the galaxy movie but I did end up seeing it when I went to watch hoppers

lethal forge
#

I feel like I’m selling out because my Mario fanboy is winning out lol

signal stirrup
#

80% of the theater was playing Galaxy and 10% were Hoppers lol

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Other 10% was every other movie

lethal forge
#

😭

#

Hoppers deserved better

#

I’m blaming Disney

signal stirrup
#

6 IMAX theater were all occupied with Mario Galaxy movie and was playing new minutes every 20-30 mins

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You could hear the music from outside or inside the theater

jovial wyvern
#

Mario Galaxy winning

signal stirrup
#

It was honestly cool

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Just watching how Galaxy movie took over theater

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I hope I can watch in the Galaxy themed movie theater in Japan

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But I don’t think there’s one near my place

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||also I’m so happy Yoshi was like, treated as actual new member of the gang, or moreso like third brother, instead of some pet or treated poorly||

tacit copper
#

||they dodged the low hanging fruit of dropping him on a cliff for a joke||

lethal forge
#

I’m going to be a weeb but if only Japan was DK country I would have wished to move there already

signal stirrup
lethal forge
#

||im convinced that Yoshi should be the third party member and novelty gimmick for the next Mario and Luigi rpg||

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Absolutely could do the same things as paper mario did in paper jam

tacit copper
#

if you think about it the united kingdom is the most dk country since 3/5 dk country games were made there

barren spear
barren spear
#

||Love how much he quickly accommodated to living life on Brooklyn as well||
||Aside from eating other people’s food lol||

jovial wyvern
#

||Yoshi was always there, just in the shadows of the family||

barren spear
#

||Love this montage sm||

novel frigate
lethal forge
#

||It feels like it was only natural for people like Whay to enjoy the movie more than Rosa people||

jovial wyvern
#

||What if you loved both Yoshi and Rosalina?||

lethal forge
#

||you’ll be more mixed I guess||

tacit copper
#

||dont think i have mentioned it yet but this one 1-second scene in the movie was the one thing that got me to audibly wheeze at the theater||

odd crescent
#

thats gore of my comfort character

lethal forge
#

||didn't know you like game & watch, Ridel||

deep skiff
#

||I 100% saw him using Judge coming but I honestly thought it would have the corresponding sound effect and 9 appear lol||

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||perhaps a skeleton getting electrified didn't make much sense||

lethal forge
#

||I think if Illumination and Nintendo had balls, I would have made the movie a 2 parter.||

sand cliff
#

||Having a giant sign with a 9 show up would just be weird.||

odd crescent
violet hollow
#

i think im genuine when i say Illumination is really really good at doing fight scenes but idk what other IP would appreciate fighting scenes other than like idk Kirby

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like there's Pokemon but they already have their own pipeline

silver holly
#

DK could have some cool fighting scenes unless you're considering that under mario

violet hollow
#

DK movie would work

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Kid Icarus would also work i think

#

Hynden Walch is still in the industry bring her BACK NOW

abstract scroll
#

make Joy Mech Fight movie (it will never happen)

silver holly
#

oh wow kid icarus movie would be fire

violet hollow
#

its already a fucking Marvel movie

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that constantly does game references

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theyre literally like

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the perfect IP to hit

sand cliff
deep skiff
sand cliff
barren spear
#

In a positive way I mean lol

violet hollow
sand cliff
violet hollow
#

i dont think i even remember a character besides pink ball thing

sand cliff
#

I would remember if it weren't for the fact the game is in Japanese so I can't read the names

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And the fan translation everyone plays is shit and changes some names

abstract scroll
#

yeah
I remember good bit of them besides their names lol

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fuck you Houou

sand cliff
#

I like the blue guy who's entire thing is being shit.
The fan translation called him Zak but iirc it's actually slightly different

abstract scroll
#

Zako iirc

sand cliff
#

Yeah

abstract scroll
lethal forge
#

Pokemon doesn't have a movie production anymore tbh

#

it all went haywre and kaput after covid

silver holly
lethal forge
#

think I'm allowed to be out in the open here regarding the fate of pokemon movie pipeline

silver holly
#

even though pokémon has one million movies, I would be legit interested in a illumination pokémon movie. I know this is a massive hot take but still

urban relic
#

||Illumination Star Fox movie will somehow have some of the best spaceship dogfight smh||

#

I mean an Illumination Pokemon movie might be a Pokémon traveling through the region...

abstract scroll
rigid depot
#

What about a sequel to the Detective Pikachu movie?

urban relic
#

It's like 7 years now?

abstract scroll
abstract scroll
rigid depot
#

yeah probably

silver holly
#

pokémon movies have a lot of directions you can take

abstract scroll
#

would like to see more spin-off based ones too

rigid depot
#

they could do something a la Pokemon Concierge

abstract scroll
rigid depot
#

Pokemon Ranger movie would be awesome

deep skiff
#

eos movie would be so peam

abstract scroll
#

what about GtI

urban relic
#

It would be funny if Donkey Kong ended up being better than Mario Movie writing wise by a wide margin

deep skiff
#

Don't know as much about that one

deep skiff
lethal forge
#

||I feel after the Galaxy movie, I wouldn't really trust them to make a Pokemon movie with a satisfying narrative.||

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||Oddly enough, since we're getting at least some nice Netflix animated shows like Pokemon Concierge, things aren't all bad.||

barren spear
#

REAL

novel frigate
#

You're getting the Pokemon Quest movie instead Kapar

soft roost
urban relic
cursive valve
#

saw The Mario today

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||this got me. I always fall for shit like this||

#

but yeah, movie is good! You kinda have to go into it with a certain state of mind I think

silver holly
soft roost
#

Yes 😭

cursive valve
#

||yeah they just say this lmao||

lethal forge
#

y'all ||don't like what Illumination did with story and still want more 😭 ||

#

I still haven't watched the movie yet...will at 1:45 pm. 💀

signal stirrup
#

😭 😭 😭 😭

#

I thought you already did SOB

#

Especially after the whole convo

lethal forge
#

I don't mind spoilerswhen it comes to this.

#

I just like joining discussion and debating lol

signal stirrup
#

I can’t believe Mario Mario fan would do this…

silver holly
abstract scroll
#

||tbh I liked hearing about the movie more than I did watching the movie LOL||

lethal forge
abstract scroll
lethal forge
#

||Like don't get me wrong, I still think things can improve but I'm just not confident anymore unless they really took the comments to heart.||

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||I like your attitude, I hope i don't come off too poorly here as I'm mostly joking around a bit. @silver holly ||

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hence the emojis

cursive valve
#

I won’t say the movie doesn’t have its flaws but like I said you kinda have to go into it with certain expectations

lethal forge
#

right

#

I don't expect a masterpiece of a narrative

cursive valve
#

It’s made by the studio best known for making movies that you put on for your kids and leave the room

lethal forge
#

I am coming here for action and fanservice.

cursive valve
#

Real

abstract scroll
#

I had certain expections and still came out dizzy

cursive valve
#

I’m here to wojak point at the screen when thing I like shows up

urban relic
#

||expect more of the 1st movie than Galaxy tbh.||

lethal forge
#

I'm just thinking to myself when it comes to heart driven narratives and sad stories, I don't trust Illumination if you want like

#

pokemon mystery dungeon.

fair linden
abstract scroll
#

(Mario Movie 1 and The Lorax)

cursive valve
#

I will say though ||I agree with the messy pacing. Especially after fox shows up it hits breakneck speed||

lethal forge
#

||I do think they might legit at least not make things too confusing after the reception tbh

they did actually respond to criticisms regarding the first movie.||

abstract scroll
#

||do wonder how many scenes were cut, I would like to see version with them if they exist||

lethal forge
#

||It would benefit to Nintendo and Illumination into making an extended cut for the peripheral demographic.||

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||I would buy a DVD of it.||

signal stirrup
#

Still pissed about getting spoilered ugh ugh either way I need to listen to the OST alone

agile trench
#

Damnit

#

I got spoiled
SobKirby

signal stirrup
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I also ended up letting someone that I went to the movie with together borrow MK8DX since their kid loved Mario Movie so much but only owns Odyssey and MKW
He said he wants to play Mario Galaxy in future as well so I might let him play on my Wii when I babysit him again
I was more smiling from wholesomeness with how kids loved the movies and became Mario fan

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(I mentioned this earlier but this was his first time watching movie in a theater)

agile trench
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At least if theres one thing to takeaway from maro galaxy, its that illumination can make some beautiful animation when they have nintendo directly behind their backs (pun not intended)

lethal forge
agile trench
lethal forge
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I’m surprised there’s many secondary kids here

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Back in my youngster days Mario was just for kiddy losers ||like me||

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I guess they’re going for shits and giggles but still… :x

lethal forge
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So uh

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I actually really like the movie and didn’t think the narrative was that bad after watching it

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lol

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there’s more I want to talk about why it doesn’t bother me but I personally found this movie’s points to be a lot stronger than the first movie.

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I’ll get back home and type in some rebuttals.

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Like I dunno if it’s because I’m a Mario fan but there’s several movies that have left me feeling empty (homecoming, Shang chi), conflicted (iron man3) and others that infuriated me (transformers 2) so I was left pretty satisfied by the end of it but I do agree the movies narrative still could have been better

royal geode
lethal forge
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||one girl said “it’s my girl” when she saw Daisy lol||

royal geode
lethal forge
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||I think the older kids were having a back and forth about whether they like the first or second movie more and I’m like

“Where was this when I was in high school? No fair!!!”||

lethal forge
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Also is it me or ||Daisy looked pretty tan||

violet hollow
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royal geode
signal stirrup
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#映画スーパーマリオギャラクシー
#SuperMarioGalaxyMovie
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abstract scroll
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damn that's a lot of stuff

lethal forge
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my responsible brain says: do your homework

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my mario brainrot tells me: No, get into stupid nerd arguments.

signal stirrup
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Hopefully I can find them when I go to the theater!

violet hollow
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the stupid nerd arguments?

violet hollow
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violet hollow
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they all have bisexual lighting

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signal stirrup
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Never ask for stuff from me because depending I’m seriously gonna buy it for people

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Gigi knows from experience

violet hollow
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if i had cash id buy it off of you

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well i do but i have bills

abstract scroll
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I doubt you could even find how to get it to my house

signal stirrup
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Honestly I don’t care if people don’t pay me

violet hollow
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Bowser Jr is my favorite guy in the movie i fear

signal stirrup
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His design is so good istg

violet hollow
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its not just the design

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his personality is like

lethal forge
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he's so badass

violet hollow
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EXACTLYYY

signal stirrup
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||his fight scene was so cute, and also very cool||

lethal forge
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||can we change jr's moveset in smash pls.||

violet hollow
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idk if i want ||Artist Kirby Bowser Jr||

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violet hollow
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especially since he's still ||Koopalings in Smash||

lethal forge
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||the axe, spear and mace is way cooler than just the clown car imo.||

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||artist kirby doesn't really do anything of that.||

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violet hollow
timber ravine
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Anyways unrelated

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It's really funny to see people on twitter go "any criticism of this movie is automatically false sheerly on premise and is bad faith", when that in of itself is a bad faith criticism lol

cedar notch
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any criticism of norm of the north is automatically false sheerly on premise and is bad faith

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(not saying it's norm of the north level just saying that you can use that defence on literally anything)

lethal forge
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I think I'll would go on a more positive direction before I try to address some (understandable and valid) issues people had with the narrative because I really want focus on how how the characters are largely portrayed.

green vector
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|| hey guys remember the part where mr game & watch use a hammer to slam dry boswer head? yeah i noticed that they use the finisher sound effect from smash ||

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smash bros movie confirmed?-

lethal forge
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penguin

lethal forge
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if I'm going to rewatch the movie again, it's probably in japanese and when it's on Youtube.

cedar notch
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japan

lethal forge
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I'm writing my giant character opinion piece as we speak

cedar notch
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Didn’t know you were a cat

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Thought you were a monkey

lethal forge
cedar notch
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Prob not sadly

drowsy knoll
# tacit heron ||I saw some people point to the random video call he has with Bowser Jr as bein...

|| I think it's how he calls B Jr. like he's incredibly miffed. And usually characters like him getting mad on calls can lead to them issuing threats for whatever reason. If he just wanted to warn B Jr about Peach closing in on him then it feels like he'd be less furious at what seems to be B Jr's direction. If he got to say something like "A certain party crashing princess is on her way. You better take care of that." So it's like he wants revenge on Peach by proxy of the Bowser army I think that would've book ended his involvement in the plot nicer than him just beaming daggers over a video call screen||

lethal forge
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you are a hero

lethal forge
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rip it was too big anyway

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had it all typed on google docs lol

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guess I'll release it in chunks or figure out a way to show it all.

green vector
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i have a theory that there's going to be a star fox movie

green vector
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-# oh what am i Kidding,they will

green vector
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merry Christmas everyone

onyx copper
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||the Mario movie sequel was just alright it seems.||

somber haven
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i've got it at a low 7 myself

surreal moss
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So, was this a FNAF 2?

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My answer, even though I have yet to see FNAF 2:

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||Ok aside from the reveal of the sister, location and time wise it's at least in a proper setting... Anyways, uh NO it's not a FNAF 2||

somber haven
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fnaf 2 might be the first ever half star film i've logged on letterboxd

tacit copper
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at least this movie was fun to watch

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it was visually stimulating

surreal moss
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I believe one major factor as to why SMGM isn't a FNAF 2 is because ||The Mario Movie wasn't trying to adapt major storylines from the source material. So by the time of the sequel, Galaxy would be more of a different breed of thing rather than be obligated to adapt for something||

somber haven
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my biggest issues with mario galaxy are like ||it doesn't really live up to its name at all with how pretty much any other game nintendo has released gets more focus than galaxy, rosalina has like three scenes total and i think that's awful with how good of a casting choice brie larson was and how well done she seemed to be in the comet observatory scene at the start, a handful of references were unendearingly cheesy and forced like the second "do a barrel roll" and bowser being like "i am bowser. and you will feel my fury." or whatever||

soft roost
surreal moss
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||Bowser, one. StarFox, zero||

ember pivot
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say thay again?

sand cliff
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You know, either Brian Tyler lied or we still haven't caught every musical reference in the first movie

tame basin
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what did he lie about

sand cliff
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He said there were, I believe at least 200 musical references in the soundtrack for the first movie

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And apparently for this second movie he said there's ||over 300||

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So we still have not found everything if he is to be believed

tame basin
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zamn that is a lot

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i still think its cool they remixed ||bowser’s keep|| tbh tbh

tacit heron
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||I noticed the SMRPG Bowser’s keep jingle too that was great||

sand cliff
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||Second time Nintendo has referenced specifically Bowser's Keep despite potentially not owning it.||

lunar thunder
sand cliff
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||Bowser's Magma Mayhem||

lethal forge
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remember our convo about the Mario bros right @tame basin @sand cliff

tame basin
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which convo tbh

lethal forge
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I think they're secondary characters to the movie alright, but they're not unimportant.

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oh lol

sand cliff
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Oh that one

tame basin
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ah i see now

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i mean they’re still the focus so like but yeah

lethal forge
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||- they do maintenance in the mushroom kingdom, lots of fun herioc antics

  • Mario is the one to extend a helping hand to scared Yoshi
  • Mario's gift was the umbrella whiched help Peach out on the movie.
  • Luigi is the one who extends the SOS for the lumas to find them
  • Mario and Luigi fight against (Bowser Jr), they fail and as a result Bowser Sr is released
  • Mario's little side plot involves his feelings with Peach which I thought were cute.
  • Mario's the one that selflessly closes off the gate and fends off the two bowser baddies.
  • Luigi gets a fun scene involving G&W||
    but yeah, I'm surprised there's been complaints about those two. Saying they don't matter ot the plot at all just because they don't have any stakes just doesn't feel fair at all.
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||Yeah, it's a weird thing to complain about||

tame basin
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||tbh even if they weren’t important, they were still the best part of the movie fr||

lethal forge
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||For me, it felt like there's actual chemistry between the characters in general and they just feel a lot more natural and livelier than in the first movie. I have a big paragraph detailing each on the cast, some of which I actually felt like were pretty close to the games despite some minor differences.

Rosa is understandably a point of frustration. I think she's the only L though I think she's likely returning for the next.||

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||I can see issues with the narrative but going in and anticipating a mess, I was left surprised how much...it just actually flowed well for me, with how much I wasn't lost and able to process the scenes together. I do get complaints from wanting a richer movie in terms of fleshing out these characters but I got a serviceable-enough narrative that doesn't distract away from the character action and humor||

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||now you can go in a long detail why it's not good enough and how much we deserve better and that there's better kid movies, yada yada yada, yeah those critiques are valid and I get where they're coming from, but from my perspective and as someone who had 0 feelings for the first movie, I ended up enjoying this one and I do think the casting and visuals had a lot to do with it. Having Luigi and Yoshi alongisde Mario helps a lot to liven the adventure up.|||

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||and tbf i dont think complaints of the first were that the pacing made it too hard to follow its that the pacing allowed for no character growth or really any overarching theme to develop||

lethal forge
# odd crescent ||and tbf i dont think complaints of the first were that the pacing made it too ...

||I didn't say you can't complain about it, the 2nd paragraph is meant to acknowledge those narrative problems. I've seen complaints that people felt disoriented, overwhelmed or things felt incohesive and confusing so I was concerned but no, geniunely I recieved enough to go on without it getting distracting to me. Your mileage may vary of course, becuase i knew I was going in that these characters wouldn't be fully explored.||

timber ravine
# odd crescent ||and tbf i dont think complaints of the first were that the pacing made it too ...

||yeah it's never really seen anyone say the mario movie 1 or 2 didnt flow well or saying that the super mario movie is hard to follow (at least to a higher or lower extent than each other, so it seems like a minority opinion even among people who like both movies). I mean, especially with the second movie still doing stuff like having the protagonist catch up to bowser jr, but actually no because no he uses a baby gun to turn them into babies and they then fall onto a planet where they have to deal with a super mario odyssey reference. Because for some reason bowser jr decided to throw the baby gun off the ship instead of putting it back on the shelf for future use where he would've won, so we could get a very intelligent scene where they find the gun to turn them back in literal seconds and yoshi doesn't just grab it with his tongue at any point||

lethal forge
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||I know two or so people said in the channel they felt disoriented, overwhelmed or "dizzy" so I had presumptions thinking that the plot itself being that way. 🤷‍♂️ ||

tacit heron
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||The baby scene was very unneeded and just felt like it existed so it could reference Yoshi’s Island. That’s probably my biggest complaint with the movie for sure||

timber ravine
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||i feel like its more so that a lot of the plot doesn't really feel natural and more so really on rails
like instead of things happening because of cause and effect its just constant effect after effect with no real connection between them||

timber ravine
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||probably yeah
in terms of stuff that is only in the plot for the sake of referencing something
like a kingdom of talking penguins or an island of monkeys with vehicles or said bike made by them having conveniently unelaborated anti-gravity functions||

lethal forge
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||seems like I'm in the minority for enjoying the fossil fall scene since it gave a Yoshi a little bit more to do and it was fun seeing Yoshi juxtaposed to a more realistic T rex. Dunno, could just be my dino brain liking that.||
||Like I do think the scene itself is so brief that even for a detour, that I'm totally just fine that the gun inexplicably turns them into babies but it's also because Bowser asked Jr to spare them so that was his way of doing that (whilst still leading them to their deaths).||

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||there's also the following scenes after that I like such as a frustrated Peach, Mario smoothily navigating and acknowleding her feelings, Luigi sending out the sos etc.||

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||personally i wasn't expecting too much focus on rosalina anyway since they kinda uh
well they just break the plot if they let her beat up everyone so there was going to have to be something that gives her a reason to not be the most powerful person in the movie||

lethal forge
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and like this is a take so ||like I enjoy whacky hijinks in these kind of movies. Sort of like how Daffy and Bugs get into all sorts of crazy adventures. I felt like the first movie didn't have a lot of that.||

novel frigate
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||she's always this "guide" character archetype where she lets others do work and then shows up to deux ex machina stuff||

lethal forge
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||I think there was a way to get Rosalina more involved in the story, I think if for whatever reason Fox fell through, they could have a depowered Rosalina escape the ufo and find her way to gateway galaxy.||

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||and so her drained powers are the ones powering up the boomsday cannon.||

tame basin
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god was this movie peak

lethal forge
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||I'm mixed on the whole thing because Fox himself is pretty aces here. Like I'm sorry but seeing his ship and what not was cool itself.||

novel frigate
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||at the very least she got off better than Luigi in the first movie
because Luigi just completely skipped out on development in that movie||

lethal forge
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total aura farming

novel frigate
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||she at least got the luma to send the message to peach||

lethal forge
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||As someone who found the first movie just ok, they let Luigi do stuff near the end. Rosa didn't get that.||

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||Luigi is also the one that saves Mario from Bowser's flame blast.||

novel frigate
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||they let luigi do stuff but it comes out of nowhere considerming mario had to train while luigi was trapped the entire time||

lethal forge
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||also a tangent but I didn't get impression that Fox was like Falco. Maybe a little bit of a blowhard but he's not a jackass like movie DK.||

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||Fox loves to gloat and show off, and he's also a little greedy, traits he doesn't show in Star Fox buuuut he also isn't a bitch like Falco is.||

signal stirrup
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||why didn’t she just fly off with Luma? Is she stupid?||

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||when the Jr’s ink goop were surrounding her, all the children was going “EWWW” “GROSS” in the theater||

timber ravine
# novel frigate ||probably yeah in terms of stuff that is only in the plot for the sake of refer...

||yeah but it's more related to anything else in the main plot, the plot of the first movie "bowser's trying to take over all the kingdoms (the penguin and monkey kingdoms are directly related to and is just worldbuilding) and use the super star as his ace, and mario seeking out the kongs for their army, they all go back to the real world, and fight bowser there and beat him with the super star". Like the most left field thing I could think of is them ending up in a whale at some point, and they fell into the water since the fight was over intercontinental waters, so there's a connection there. It's the most cliche thing you could've done actually. "And then the protagonists get shot with a baby gun" is just a moment that's "genuinely what the fuck does this have to do anything"||

lethal forge
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||I don't know if it was left field but like

I felt the Kong inclusion was worse here than they did with Fox. The latter still played a very important part and his role in the story felt more organic here in the movie if I'm being real.||

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||Like the kongs were meant to be played as this powerful army that stood a chance against Bowser's army and they got these karts annnnd...they all got intercepted already, making it feel almost pointless what Mario had to go through.

Like I'm not saying this with recency bias here, I think I made it completely certain that the first movie didn't do much for me even before the 2nd movie came out.||

urban relic
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||i mean even with the Kongs they decided to ambush Bowser and his army. Maybe they are just better fighting hand to hand rather than with vehicles.||

tacit copper
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||dk in the end was also majorly responsible for getting mario to defeat bowser so its not entirely wasted. they even get a good moment together inside the eel||

lethal forge
tacit copper
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||i do think that it would be nice if we got to see like the kongs kicking ass BEFORE getting owned by bowser||

lethal forge
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||Though I personally did not like the eel scene too much because DK was still being a dick even when Mario emphasized with his father issues.||

timber ravine
# timber ravine ||yeah but it's more related to anything else in the main plot, the plot of the ...

||Like, I was thinking of ways to make this plot point less ~~pointless from a watsonian perspective ~~ straight up filler since they find the gun to turn them back seconds after it happens. Like "maybe the other protags have to deal with this and sneak back onto the ship to get the gun and turn them back to normal", before I realized "wait this is stupid, why is this here in the first place" lol||

lethal forge
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||I think it was just finding a way to instantly turn them back because they want the brief Yoshi's Island scene.

Like if it was a detour, it was better served to get it out the way asap but I get where people are coming from thinking it's a bit pointless. Probably the equivalent to the rainbow road scene.||

tacit copper
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||having the arwing crash makes sense since it allows for the lumas to show up and for them to swap ships to the observatory, but it makes fox's role lamer since bro gets crashed mere minutes after being introduced and then just shifts the plot to funny yoshi island reference||

lethal forge
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||ALSO||

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||why the fuck is the bowser planet like literally right in front of them when fox takes off||

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||its literally like next door||

lethal forge
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||tbh

As a Galaxy 2 fan more than Galaxy 1 fan, maybe that's why I just didn't care that much about Rosa getting second hand dishes in the story. Like I would have tried to make her important just to keep other people happy but I just wasn't that affected by it personally.||

tacit copper
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||they just got out of fossil falls and its like the next planet right away its so anticlimatic like you'd expect this super cool moment with the observatory zooming across the universe but not its just like 5 feet away||

lethal forge
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||Wait, it's actually kind of understandable that the observatory was like that? That's even faster.||

timber ravine
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||Like, if one has a problem witg something getting set up and then getting "lol no"'d and shut down/forgotten later, the second movie is filled with that lol||

lethal forge
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||it was like that in the games, it just zipped by because it can.||

tacit copper
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||it is fast, but the distance between the observatory and the planet is so comically short||

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||like lol||

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they havent started moving in this shot

lethal forge
tacit copper
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||this is a super minor nitpick but its weird to me regardless lol||

fair linden
timber ravine
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||they literally could've just made bowser jr shoot down the ship nonlethally (which in essence the ship still gets shot down anyways), fox cry about his ship getting broken etc., and then they can cut straight to releasing the sos that's coincidentally picked up by comet observatory, and the movie wouldn't have to be an hour and 30 minutes||

lethal forge
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which is still a problem but I don't think any of the arcs were shut down.

signal stirrup
lethal forge
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I'll post my feelings on Bowser and Jr because honestly? I disagree with how people saw it but I get why.

signal stirrup
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Banger music….

tame basin
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he cooked some fire starfox music tbh