Return to Dream Land Deluxe

[gritty estuary]

lieing about meeting marx

[sacred mango]

he's mostly lying by omission

[terse gazelle]

I mean when you think about it besides saying hes from halcandra. Magolor didn’t really lie about anything.
He never mentioned the crown, just asked kirby to defeat landia

[sacred mango]

yeah

well he moved the goalpost

[terse gazelle]

And even then magolor admits to lying about being halcandran

[gritty estuary]

hes just like go kick this dragons ass

[sacred mango]

first repair the ship

oh yeah I guess saying home planet was actually a lie

he does lie

[sturdy ore]

“I’m not actually from Halcandra” many headcanons were destroyed at that very moment

[limpid harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/ironman-tony-stark-forge-gif-10677756 mr. ancient creating a second master crown because one wasnt enough

[terse gazelle]

Magolor is not a liar yipeee

But hes still a wizard

EVVVIIIILLL

[sacred mango]

but personally I'd believe that his knowledge is real and he did not lie about that

[gritty estuary]

to quote vinny cringe wizard

[sturdy ore]

Master Crown factory

[wispy crypt]

Still a liar in a sense he just duped Kirby and friends all for power

[plucky monolith]

well he does say 'there's another ancient artifact there, one that lets you rule the universe' and 'I have a feeling Landia isn't willing to part with it quite so easily'
but yeah lol

[terse gazelle]

Bro was gonna try stacking buffs

[sacred mango]

just that the only part that he lies about are just about his goals

and manipulation

by that time he can just showoff his knowledge and not lie

[sturdy ore]

Wait where did the second Master Crown thing come from

[limpid harbor]

here's what happens when you put a master crown onto another master cr--

[earnest sphinx]

That was in Extra Mode though, it felt like to me that since you already know he betrays you at that point HAL decided to get more silly and blatant with that line

[gritty estuary]

so why didnt the crown corrupt landia

[sacred mango]

because he doesn't really have to lie there about that

[sturdy ore]

They’re too tough

[plucky monolith]

true
but still

[wispy crypt]

The crown only supercharges the evils within

[sacred mango]

Yeah Magolor wants to hear screams of everyone in the universe.

[gritty estuary]

so landia just is chill

[limpid harbor]

dont let an AI wear the master crown worst mistake of my life

[wispy crypt]

Landia never had some in the first place, born to be heroic

[terse gazelle]

Landia had four heads
So the 3 against 1 corruption factor means they were fine

[sturdy ore]

Me crowning Star Dream

[warm sun]

I assume they weren’t using much of its power to become corrupted

[gritty estuary]

landia had no evil within fhem

[sacred mango]

to be honest if there's one thing RTDX made clear

the crown is fucking bad

[terse gazelle]

If only magolor had an extra head
Then he’d be fine

[gritty estuary]

they were just a dragon

[wispy crypt]

And now Magolor regrets wearing it

[wicked wolf]

It's so funny how the novel had a entirely different take LOL

[sacred mango]

to be honest he regrets because he also fucking went through hell

[earnest sphinx]

I think Landia simply has a very strong will to resist the crown's effects; they still get the urge to destroy thanks to the crown according to Landia EX's description, but they shrug it off. It might be the reason why they're described to usually be asleep or the reason why they're usually in one 4-headed dragon mode instead of being 4 separate dragons

[limpid harbor]

mie playing rtdx

[gritty estuary]

why wqs the crown made

[sacred mango]

and also like

Magolor got beaten by Kirby anyway

[wispy crypt]

He thought it was a good idea to dupe Kirby and friends. Now he gets fucking karma'd by the crown, and he doesn't like that

[terse gazelle]

If kirby put on the master crown would he be able to fusion with the rest of the dreamland quartet?

[sacred mango]

...showing that the crown is really nothing to Kirby

[sturdy ore]

The novel shared a theory with a really popular fan one at the time lol

[gritty estuary]

the crown wouldnt effect kirbh

hes too positive

[wispy crypt]

Yeah

The most it can do is just... latch off

[gritty estuary]

kirby has no evils in his heart

[sacred mango]

Kirby brought you an apple

[limpid harbor]

the crown breaks when kirby wears it

[earnest sphinx]

I mean it's implied Magolor's regrets aren't entirely because he got ratio'd by the Crown and Kirby but yeah he's definitely bitter that he got kicked down a dozen notches

[gritty estuary]

so it would just be aesthetic

[terse gazelle]

Kirby would mistake the crown as a golden wrap easter chocolate treat and try to eat it

[sacred mango]

to be honest

[gritty estuary]

it would just be a normal crown for kirby

[sacred mango]

even in Kirby Clash he's still bitter about it lol

[warm sun]

I love the novels but I’m glad DX treated the Master Crown as more eldritch instead of it just being "amplified cause the wearer is a meanie"

[sacred mango]

he's just there

and outright saying "yeah I don't give a shit about this place"

[sturdy ore]

To me, Master Crown… is just a normal crown

[limpid harbor]

kirby pulling the gem out of the master crown mistaking it for candy https://tenor.com/view/thanos-vs-vision-thanos-vision-stone-gauntlet-gif-17162364

[warm sun]

KNAOOOOO

[terse gazelle]

Lmao

[wispy crypt]

Like, it just fucking stole Magolor's body during the True Arena Soul fight

No more Magolor eye

[sacred mango]

to be honest though

[wispy crypt]

Just only ONE BIG RED EYE

[sacred mango]

the Ancients who made the crown

wtf were they thinking

[limpid harbor]

they are so stupid

[sturdy ore]

The Master Crown is just regal cordyceps

[sacred mango]

to be honest

[limpid harbor]

their entire existence is filled with L's

[thin kindle]

They wanted to rule the universe duh

[sacred mango]

the only thing about the Ancients that we know

[thin kindle]

Using the power of evil darkness

[sturdy ore]

The ancients making the crown like “This is a good idea”

“Shit”

[sacred mango]

they're not really smart people

The only people that seemed to be smart

[wicked wolf]

They're Intelligent but not smart

[sturdy ore]

This is why wisdom and intelligence are separate stats

[sacred mango]

are the New World people

[wicked wolf]

[sacred mango]

because like

[wispy crypt]

Tbh, they were just looking for ways to expand their power. And it backfired I guess

[earnest sphinx]

this is why the magic ancients got wrecked by the science ancients

[sacred mango]

the New World people we don't exactly know what happened to them aside from disappearing into a "land of dreams"

[limpid harbor]

the ancients when the crown they designed to bring the evil out of people brings the evil out of them ((the crown is also evil) how did they fuck up so bad)) https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-funny-meme-what-gif-22548813

[warm sun]

I still feel like even with the crown Halcandra’s original rulers were kinda dicks
Cause again, the fact that Metal General was made just to hunt people down on different planets is kinda 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨

[sturdy ore]

They went to Halcandra wdym

[sacred mango]

but they're powerful enough to stop freaking Elfilis

[warm sun]

True!!!!!

[terse gazelle]

They probably thought they were perfect people
Like think about it they probably thought that if they were perfectly good they would get all of the dark power with non of the draw back

[wispy crypt]

I've always HC'd that they traveled to further dimensions because of warp drive technology

[terse gazelle]

Basically the ancients have ego problems

[wispy crypt]

This is the huge pillar I set for Cyon lore

[thin kindle]

Considering the ancients kept making wish granting machines, probably kidnapped waddle dees as an energy source, and made an evil crown using the darkness of a vessel that gives birth to God I think the ancients are just power hungry

[wispy crypt]

Nah the Beast Pack did their thing to kidnap Dees

[thin kindle]

Evil ancients they're just like us fr!!!!

[wispy crypt]

Not Ancients

[earnest sphinx]

pretty much everyone except kirby in this universe has an ego problem

[sturdy ore]

Honestly I think they made the crown with good intentions and then it started absorbing the darkness of everyone who wore it and eventually it became a possessor

[limpid harbor]

human bad but we're good the best even

[sacred mango]

or Ancients are actually good

and there are a few in the outskirts who are fucking bad and actually fucked everything about them up

[terse gazelle]

You’re wrong
Theres no way bandana dee has an ego problem

[thin kindle]

They stopped being good after the two evil mirrors and the crown made from satan

[terse gazelle]

I like to believe that bandee is pure of heart like kirby

[sacred mango]

he has a BIG ❤️

[thin kindle]

The leaders of their civilizations are CORRUPT

[limpid harbor]

i bet they made a second mirror because the first one turned evil

[wicked wolf]

https://images-ext-1.discordapp.net/external/ClngO0_iebiyR5HcN5RXgHExQafTwnd3GdY4TnBcB_M/https/media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOGU1Njk0N2Q3ZWM0MDA2MTMzNDQ4YzYxNTgzMDc4OWZmYjBjZDhmNSZjdD1n/7d9MbvjNI9Bnzn3u2Z/giphy.gif

[limpid harbor]

the second mirror BECAME EVIL TOO

[sacred mango]

in the end

[terse gazelle]

Because hes never prideful for a runback like dedede. Or thinks of himself as a master of skill like metaknight
Bandee just goes with the flow, I like it

[sacred mango]

the only potentially good device in a Kirby game

[thin kindle]

Lmfao they made the second one purposefully evil after seeing the other one

[sturdy ore]

The Beast Pack meeting Hyness on Halcandra:

[sacred mango]

...it's the Star Rod

that seems to be the only item that's actually freaking positive

lol

[wicked wolf]

Me when Nightmare birthed from the Fountain of Dreams

[thin kindle]

Ooops star rod was holding evil wizard

[sacred mango]

was it really holding it

or was he smart enough to wait

[limpid harbor]

maybe nightmare is an ancient who hid away in the star rod to escape the crisis but turned insane idk

[sacred mango]

or I'm just dumb

[terse gazelle]

Why do the ancients need like 100 different wish granting machines
Like no one thought making the power to control reality accessible was a bad idea?

[sacred mango]

because 4 AM brain

[terse gazelle]

Imagine the line to nova

[wicked wolf]

I think he was just born during Adventure's story lol

[sacred mango]

anyway i'm gonna just sleep

[sturdy ore]

Nightmare was born like 3 minutes before Adventure started

[terse gazelle]

Like back in the ancients time there was just a big line go get your wish granted

[limpid harbor]

so kirby killed a baby

[sturdy ore]

A really big baby

[limpid harbor]

lmao true

everything was wish granting back then

dream toaster (it grants wishes)

[sacred mango]

the funny thing is

[sturdy ore]

This leaves two candidates for the galactic crisis Master Crown and Galacta Knight

[sacred mango]

the only actually neutral wish granting thing they made

it's NOVA

the problem was just that it was used by a clown

[warm sun]

Nightmare and Dark Mind are funny cause I’ve always believed they’ve been ancient evils for a while now and I hear bullshit about how they were just manifested and I’m like

[sacred mango]

otherwise it wouldn't have been a problem lol

[limpid harbor]

FR

[terse gazelle]

“Mom I don’t want to get my desires from the star rod, I want it from nova”
Like whats the difference. I feel like Im a 50yr old asking why “yall young people need upgraded phone gadgets” lmao

[limpid harbor]

entire theory killed rn

[sturdy ore]

https://tenor.com/view/bubsy-meme-explosion-3d-gif-15828100

[sacred mango]

so I'm just like

[sturdy ore]

^ your hc

[plucky monolith]

yeah, that is what is implied

[wicked wolf]

I'm sorry

[sacred mango]

Ancients decided to make a wish granting machine that's also a clock

and looks like a silly cat

[limpid harbor]

thousands of hc's/theories imploding whenever a new game comes out:

[warm sun]

My lazily thought up theories and headcanons when people actually research the lore and have actual answers

[sacred mango]

and it's literally the only thing they made that isn't actually negative

it's just not positive either

it's just on whoever uses it

[limpid harbor]

true neutral

[terse gazelle]

Everything would’ve been fine as long as they just gave nova the Aladdin rules

[sacred mango]

well no

it runs on DOS

so, no rules

blame Microsoft on it

or IBM

they were one step behind HAL

lol

[limpid harbor]

nova runs on linus i bet

[sacred mango]

no I think it's DOS

[terse gazelle]

Imagine if nova summoned DA RULEZ from the fairly odd parents

[sacred mango]

what's the command prompt

[tawdry stream]

mid-2000's everything-is-dark-matter theorists when they enter the modern fandom again (they are flabbergasted)

[sacred mango]

it uses ->

[sturdy ore]

Reminds me when someone deadass tried to convince me Fecto Elfilis was Dark Matter

[terse gazelle]

What happens when you try to play megaman 3 DOS on nova?

[sacred mango]

...I'll treat it as DOS.

[tawdry stream]

i remember some people saying that too lol

[sacred mango]

Linux Bash doesn't look like that

[limpid harbor]

what if i hypothetically wished for nova to blow itself up

[silk frost]

How

[sturdy ore]

“Erm erm Elfilin is like Gooey and how they’re good and erm erm”

[sturdy ore]

Based on something they actually said

[plucky monolith]

well it would have to comply

[silk frost]

How is elfilis like dark matter in any way

[sturdy ore]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-super-star-ultra-galactic-nova-explode-dies-gif-21264125

[limpid harbor]

"....... OK -->" 💥

[tawdry stream]

i've seen some try to say that the soul ball has "dark matter attacks" (they're not) because "look void used them and he is dark matter"

[terse gazelle]

What would happen if you gave nova a paradoxal wish

[warm sun]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-low-tier-god-you-should-kill-yourself-now-gif-23487049

[terse gazelle]

Like I wish that you not grant my wish

[sacred mango]

I'm looking at japanese version really quick

[sturdy ore]

https://tenor.com/view/mgrv-raiden-punching-armstrong-gif-24576818

[silk frost]

Void isn't dark matter

What

[sturdy ore]

Mfs trying to convince me Elfilis is Dark Matter

[sacred mango]

it's just > in japanese

so DOS

[plucky monolith]

do they think Drawcia is Dark Matter lol

[sturdy ore]

(I have spent too much of my life on this series)

[plucky monolith]

or Sectonia

[sturdy ore]

“Drawcia sold her soul to Zero”

[tawdry stream]

mimicry moment

[sacred mango]

Star Dream however

[terse gazelle]

I just realized
That the ancients could’ve wished the star rod and dimensional mirror into existence from nova or vise versa

So they could have wished for more wishes

[tawdry stream]

idk they never brought that up during the discussion i had w/ them

[sacred mango]

Star Dream is not an IBM thing

in fact Star Dream Soul OS

[limpid harbor]

the ancients made their own programming language

[terse gazelle]

If nova is dos then star dream is a dos computer put in the shell of a rainbow gaming pc

[sacred mango]

wanna know how they named it in french?

[sturdy ore]

Oh my God

[sacred mango]

idol_of_the_stars.exe

(translated back to english)

that's how we got Soul OS

[warm sun]

The Lab Discovera scientists watching me give Forgo a small sample of Dark Matter DNA (we are going to die)

[terse gazelle]

EXE

[sacred mango]

french and italian localization did this

[limpid harbor]

star dream exe

[sacred mango]

and spanish

[limpid harbor]

😱

[sturdy ore]

Sonic.exe

[silk frost]

The average video game theorist when they learn what a coincidence is

[terse gazelle]

One day I was playing robobot but star dream had blood
And the blood bled a bloody deep blood like red. The red of bloody blood

[sacred mango]

I... kinda thought it was great lol

[wispy crypt]

What's funny is that before the battle, when it merges with Elfilin, Elfilis starts out as an orb

[sacred mango]

orb

[sturdy ore]

Bro used anime Nightmare

[sacred mango]

anyway now I'm sleeping

[sturdy ore]

Gn

[limpid harbor]

dont let the bed bugzey's bite

[wispy crypt]

Anime Nightmare is unbased for:

• Being resistant to Fire

Elfilis is based for:

• Being unresistant to Fire

[limpid harbor]

most sensical r/kirby subreddit theory

[sturdy ore]

Elfilis is Parallel Nightmare mfs when they boot up Super Kirby Clash

[plucky monolith]

lmao

[wispy crypt]

Elfilis can heal, Nightmare doesn't

[plucky monolith]

mentioning Parallel Nightmare I still wonder what his deal is
and why Master Crown has a similar teleporting animation

[sturdy ore]

What a dream battle

[wispy crypt]

Oh god not again

[limpid harbor]

did bro forget about morpho knight

[wispy crypt]

I still think Void = Elfilis is a huge stretch

[warm sun]

Lol Internal Struggle in the background

[silk frost]

Me when I want to say something but it's unrelated to the current topic and the subject of the channel

[plucky monolith]

and every other Soul boss (and Grand Doomer) lmao

[sturdy ore]

Grand Doomer is Void

It goes on

[silk frost]

Electricky Dooter and Hydriath passionately making out is void

[wispy crypt]

Me dying of a heart attack is Void

(I never realized it)

[limpid harbor]

this video

[wispy crypt]

Was the original made without the INTERNAL STRUGGLE song

[sturdy ore]

Yeah

[wispy crypt]

I see

[sturdy ore]

Or the Star Conquering Traveler

[silk frost]

Kirby music is Void

[sturdy ore]

Man

[hidden dock]

i could kinda see it, but much of its void like abilities are only present from absorbing other lifeforms, making it a chaotic mixture that would of course act like a being of chaos (voib turdima)

[sturdy ore]

So true bro

[silk frost]

Guys what if dark matter is not void, but void is actually dark matter?

[limpid harbor]

AND THE CROWD GOES SILENT 🔥 🔥 🔥

[plucky monolith]

nah its Greater Doomer
look! Void!!!

[sturdy ore]

NO WAY

[limpid harbor]

real!!!

[plucky monolith]

(also this frame looks so funny lmao)

[sturdy ore]

[hidden dock]

speamking of spear duders, i have an idea of why the crowned and rampaging doomers took the fruity fragments. perhaps the apple shards were created by the ancients?

[odd rampart]

Void became a Warp Star

[limpid harbor]

erm what are they getting at

[sturdy ore]

h

[plucky monolith]

I doubt it
we don't even know if Grand Doomer would want it on his own, or if it has something to do with Master Crown

though it is implied the other Doomers would not care otherwise

[odd rampart]

i mean Master Crown amplifies evil vibes as well as power

Hm

now that i think about it

[hidden dock]

i mean the frags are supposed to go on the alter, which was almost definitly created by the old guys (ancients)

[odd rampart]

does the Rampaging Doomers have shards of hte crown since they look so similar to Crowned Doomer

[sturdy ore]

Guys Gorimondo and Leongar both have “beast” in the title

[plucky monolith]

since it is by 'someone else's control/rule'

[sturdy ore]

This clearly means they’re the same character

[plucky monolith]

maybe? would not explain why the other bosses have gear/Lor motifs though

and it seems like the crown shards we see at the beginning are the same ones as the end stuff so idk

[hidden dock]

okay, this is a far fetched theory, but the elemental bosses are said to be made out of elemental energy from their areas, so what if the crown itself created them, and the gears are because the crown previoulsy posessed magolor

like it used the leftover magolor energy to make them

[sturdy ore]

This is what I believe

Crowned Doomer made them

[hidden dock]

would explain why they see him as their boss

[inner jetty]

i'm pretty sure it was said somewhere that the Fruit Fragments contain life energy

[sturdy ore]

Yeah Electricky Dooter description

[inner jetty]

and according to Clash Doomers are just attracted to strong sources of energy

[plucky monolith]

don't really get a close-up view but

[plucky monolith]

no, just 'great power'

[silk frost]

I didn't know that

Good thing it fits my hc about doomers

[plucky monolith]

well we don't know if the reasons Greater Doomer is attracted to energy are different from the other Doomers being attracted to spheres
at least, I don't think they are the same reasons

[inner jetty]

ok yeah

[odd rampart]

still suspicious to me that the shards of the 1st scene are bright blue but then it arrives with dark energy

might just be Crowned Doomer but

suspicious;....

[plucky monolith]

oh, in JP it is 'life power'

[plucky monolith]

it isn't even really dark at first

that to this

[odd rampart]

yes exactly

but its completely clean and blue in the intro

suspicious to me

[plucky monolith]

does it have something to do with Grand Doomer or???

[inner jetty]

I still think that this whole attraction to lots of energy is probably the only thing that could reasonably explain Crowned Doomer's motives

[odd rampart]

well considering "AREADARK" and its implied that Purple Doomers are Dark-Element-themed

it could just be Crowned Doomer

[plucky monolith]

yeah but why does only he want it and not the other Doomers

[inner jetty]

I assume it's just part of the minion hierarchy

he's the boss and he commands them to do what he wants

whether or not that's related to the crown's power isn't something I know but eh

[sturdy ore]

Kinda got them decisive battlefield colors

[plucky monolith]

yeah but it isn't like they all want them lol

just Grand Doomer and/or Master Crown

I hate how we don't even really know which one

[inner jetty]

I feel like Master Crown doesn't really have any motives to begin with

[sturdy ore]

Just pure malice

[plucky monolith]

it is weird how they use 支配 a lot (in Epilogue boss descriptions)
do they just like the word or what

but besides that it is usually just used in reference to Master Crown (or Magolor)

[inner jetty]

I feel like the implications of it being a mistletoe are like just

how it latches into anything and amplifies their power to dominate

Master Crown only turned into a tree because the Crowned Doomer disappeared but the apple and crown shards remained

and the crown seemingly really just wants a host rather than inherently the apple itself

the apple is just the closest thing to it

so I still feel like Crowned Doomer is the only one of them that has any motivation for the apple

[plucky monolith]

but why lol

[sturdy ore]

Yummy fruit

[plucky monolith]

when tf will they explain this mode lmao

does he just want it to live? is that it?

[silk frost]

I swear every new Kirby thing raises at least 3× the lore questions it answers

[inner jetty]

if only I could do more than scream "Nintendo Dream" at the sky and shake my arms in frustration

[sturdy ore]

Isn’t Crowned Doomer supposed to be getting revenge for what happened last time

[plucky monolith]

is this fucker just starving

[plucky monolith]

no

[plucky monolith]

it is just a 'battle of karma'

[inner jetty]

kumazaki gonna be like "another dimension was created by Doomers eating up the worlds they were in"

[sturdy ore]

Slurp

[plucky monolith]

いんがおうほう = 因果応報 = karmic retribution

[inner jetty]

Guzzlord in Kirby real

[odd rampart]

OMG UNDERTALE!?

[plucky monolith]

いんがおうほうの 戦い ('battle of karmic retribution' or 'karmic battle')

[sturdy ore]

Crowned Doomer just wanna live ig

[plucky monolith]

yeah
wonder if he was worn out from his fight with Kirby

[odd rampart]

WAIT THAT'D BE SO FUNNY

[plucky monolith]

yeah lmao
Magolor and Grand Doomer, both fought Kirby and lost

[odd rampart]

"Augh. i died. mmmm yummu crown bits. but its not enough. MINIONS. GET ME THE FRUIT OF LIFE"

magolor:

[plucky monolith]

and aren't doing the best

[inner jetty]

so basically its either a coincidence they meet again or its outright karma

[odd rampart]

its both i think

also Magolor never met Grand Doomer afaik

just knows that he exists (?)

[silk frost]

Yeah

[sturdy ore]

I just realized the Crowned Doomer wasn’t actually wearing the crown

[silk frost]

Grand doomer might be pissed at mags though because mags is the reason grand doomer was defeated the first time

[sturdy ore]

[plucky monolith]

I mean I don't think he even knows

or can know

[silk frost]

Key word there: might

wdym "or can know"

[plucky monolith]

like how is he gonna find out

[silk frost]

Oh

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh Another Dimension

idk

[plucky monolith]

this bitch is stuck in another dimension most of the time
only way he finds out is if Kirby or one of the others mentioned it (assuming he understands what they are saying)

[silk frost]

I'm now imagining "uhh Another Dimension" becoming an inside joke used as a response to lore questions we don't know the answer to

[plucky monolith]

like the only time he isn't stuck is Nutty Noon
and he doesn't go very far (eats a Mast then gets defeated by Kirby)

[odd rampart]

wym becoming

it already is

[silk frost]

Since when

[plucky monolith]

and we know he went back into another dimension for sure since Epilogue happens lol

and that entire mode is in another dimension

[jolly stream]

Playable Galacta Knight 😱😱😱

(I know spoilers are lifted, I just did it for the meme.)

[open magnet]

Can I use healing items in true arena?

[pearl fjord]

yes

it will put a mark on the record

[open magnet]

Does it still count as 100%?

[pearl fjord]

yes

[open magnet]

At least

[open magnet]

The mark is useless

[hushed mica]

a mark of weakness

[open magnet]

I am weak

[jolly stream]

Simply git gud >:3

[hot lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/she-hulk-she-hulk-clap-clap-loud-gif-26577985

magolor after entering phase 2

[jolly stream]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-give-me-money-kirbys-return-to-dream-land-kirby-clash-microtransagolor-gif-26860135

[alpine gust]

last minute of the 3ds eshop (for me)

very sad

[jaunty oyster]

I thought they said it’s closing at 5pm pacific time

[dense iron]

it's closing in 3 hours

[jaunty oyster]

But also rip 😢

[dense iron]

https://twitter.com/NinStatusBot/status/1639091195002630145

NinStatusBot (@NinStatusBot)

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[jaunty oyster]

Oh no ☹️

[thin kindle]

https://youtu.be/t6bl0PEGsqc

The end is nigh

[dense iron]

so real

[wicked wolf]

The Ethereal Altar

[wispy crypt]

HJGGSJLGJSJGKLSG

[west silo]

The end of an era (you can't 100% team kirby clash deluxe legitimately anymore D:, nor you can download the e-shop exclusive kirby games legally)

homebrew is THE only option

[ripe mulch]

Wait, why can't you 100% it anymore? Wouldn't it just be really grindy? Or is there a mission involving the eShop?

[wispy crypt]

Buying Gem Apples is a process that goes through the Nintendo eShop

So since the eShop shut down, there's no way to maximize use of the Gem Apple Tree

[wicked wolf]

Is that even part of 100%

I thought only all Platinum & Heroic Missions are

[pearl fjord]

No more mecha!!!!!

[void blaze]

well ya sure got blasted by Something!

[inner jetty]

damn i forgot how fake looking they kept the drop stars

are they even a 3D model in this game

[pearl fjord]

yea

honestly SA was the game where they didn't look like 3D models to me

[inner jetty]

ok fair enough

[void blaze]

wow it looks like you're on wr pace - reached magolor soul in less than a minute

[inner jetty]

but i feel like they looked 3D in the 3DS games

3D enough

maybe its just the floor here

there's no shadows here

[pearl fjord]

They looked great in 3DS games

And yea maybe it's the arena design here having no sense of depth

I just realized what I'm trying to do

I'm literally trying to create the ta magolor soul version of ta magolor soul

Im trying to have this attack juke players who think they know how it works

[jolly stream]

Wut?

[wispy crypt]

Assert dominance on the King

[pearl fjord]

Juked

[wispy crypt]

What the fuck

[ripe mulch]

Yeah, that was my question. Obviously no more buying apples for anyone, but I didn't think it counted for percentage stuff. But maybe it's like people maxing out their collectables even though it doesn't matter, or getting all platinums on stuff, etc? I'm not too fussed either way, that's just life. I was just curious

[terse gazelle]

Why does bandana dee always have to stay the same boring spear clone

Like metalnight is bird and sword mixed together kingdedede is special but bandana waddle dee is just spear Kirby

And king dededes hammer beam has not made a return since triple deluxe that makes me a little upset cuz I liked that move it was fun

[pearl fjord]

Oh actually is bwd still just spear kirby with ground thrust and infinite jumps

[terse gazelle]

Yeah

[pearl fjord]

Rip

[terse gazelle]

And his helicopter was screwed up too it hasn’t changed but the animation is way slower

So it’s not believable that he’s flying anymore

[terse gazelle]

They could have given him some baton Kirby techniques to mix it up a bit he’s just so absolutely redundant

[inner jetty]

I think they could have given him his new attacks from FL

he has a completely different finisher for his multi spear thrust and a 2nd charge level for waddle spear copter there

[pearl fjord]

Also is DDD's hitbox actually bigger in DX

It feels like he's still got a kirby sized hitbox tbh

[sour nexus]

You would think it is

[wispy crypt]

Even Customer Service says that!

[terse gazelle]

WE NEED HIS HAMMER BEAM

also I think that his stomp attack should have a multi hit or something

[void blaze]

I think the fact it's not a multihit might potentially make it better

since if an attack hits tooo rapidly it loses damage to i-frames. for example, hammer's dash aerial spin is weaker than the regular aerial spin on bosses

[tawdry depot]

were you always able to rotate the arena podium at the end results

[wispy crypt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHATRYtCE_8

Listen to this track to scare thousands of Kirby fans

[mint notch]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[mint notch]

Me realising what I’ve just done when I mess up the puzzle milliseconds be I get crushed to death:

[frigid jackal]

waddle deeee

[inner sluice]

wadoldy

[frigid jackal]

wonyaaaa

[silk frost]

Wanya

[scarlet sierra]

Why are the fake eyes doing that

[true heath]

It is bigger
I'm not sure if it's as big as in SA/KF2, but definitely larger than og RTDL

[hot lotus]

like and share if u miss og dedede…

[robust yoke]

no

[odd rampart]

og dedede looks like

unless you mean og RtDL in which case

i still dont get why people want a mouthbreathing looking ass smiling penguin

like

it doesnt even represent the gruff vibe of Dedede you might as well just taken a Poppy Bro along with you

[pearl fjord]

At least it kinda feels like its too small for the new model lol

[pearl fjord]

He is looking

[valid locust]

also for RtDL dedede, in the interview I'm translating (5/8 done) they mention how in RtDL his design was like that due to limitations of collision detection back then

they wanted to make him bigger originally

which they realized in the remake

and FL dedede was the base because it's the design fresher in people's mind

[dense iron]

I still like the og more but I definitely still love the remake's design

[hot lotus]

he loves life

[terse gazelle]

I definitely perfer the og rtdl design since to me at least it seems like the most accurate translation of the old sprite. But also because I am nostalgic for the old one

[exotic geode]

I only like the old one because of a meme

Mobile autocorrect sucks

[terse gazelle]

One critic I have about new dedede is that the mouths center should be moved up to the middle of the beak a little more.

Besides that nitpick I really like the design

[dense iron]

Honestly I can feel for a lot of the people who like the og better as we are nostalgic for the og

[exotic geode]

https://tenor.com/view/king-dedede-jaw-drop-shocked-shocking-surprised-gif-26424006

[dense iron]

They ruined it 💔 im kidding but the og one is funnier

[exotic geode]

Be honest, most people probably like the old one because of this one scene

[odd rampart]

most people like the old one because Dedede becomes a funny joke like the anime

[dense iron]

The og has a lot more funnier expressions that can't be pulled off in the og

[regal pulsar]

imma be real, rtdl dedede could be perfect if they retweak the deisgn

[dense iron]

Same tbhhhhh

[regal pulsar]

it already looks good but it was shrunken down

[odd rampart]

Eh, I think the new one can pull a lot of it off

they just didn't want to

[gritty estuary]

they should just use the smash one

[odd rampart]

🤢

[regal pulsar]

lmfao

[gritty estuary]

im kidding

[terse gazelle]

New dedede can express well but anything more complicated than smiles seem just slightly off

[dense iron]

I like smash dedede but like
eh

[regal pulsar]

he would far from fit in kirby style

[dense iron]

So true...

[gritty estuary]

fl dedede is great

[regal pulsar]

at least of the current standards we have rn

fl dedede is amazing

[odd rampart]

wym more complicated than smiles

[exotic geode]

Dedede, the King of redesign

[odd rampart]

the thing is he CAN open his damn mouth open its literally in Egg Catcher

[dense iron]

I mean he can easily do shocked expressions now

[odd rampart]

they just didnt choose to

[regal pulsar]

i thought all of his expressions are great?

it just isnt done well in the CUTSCENES

[dense iron]

and the title screen animations

haha!

[regal pulsar]

GOD most of those expressions just suck

imo

[terse gazelle]

Idk the little shake head joke in the title screen seems to lose some of that extra exaggeration it had

[regal pulsar]

they just dont use the most of the model's flexibility

[exotic geode]

Dedede minigame expression is the best

[gritty estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-bandana-dee-waddle-dee-cheer-cheerleader-gif-20513540

dedede looks bad doing this

[dense iron]

Its not like they CAN'T make him expressive its just that they just. Refuse to

[regal pulsar]

JUMPSCARE

[exotic geode]

The Dedede minigame expression is very cool

[terse gazelle]

Basically fl dedede is expressive just not as exaggerated as the og

[regal pulsar]

yeah the minigames really showed the best range of expresisons dedede has

idk why they just, didnt for the cutscenes

[dense iron]

Ok but SA dedede is just

bad

Like he looked good in the concept art

[gritty estuary]

he is

[dense iron]

Definitely the best dedede design

[odd rampart]

Dedede in cutscenes is generally more angry and gruff and idk people act like "yaeh but dedede has better expressions in the og" Dedede looks like he has the personality of a Poppy Bro with that design

[dense iron]

But

[gritty estuary]

he moves like a mannakin

[exotic geode]

RTDL but instead of Dedede, it's Poppy Bro Jr

[odd rampart]

and its not even like Dedede cant smile in RtDL DX

[gritty estuary]

he can

[odd rampart]

he can and does it constantly especially with the new "Poses" feature

but now he's actually acting like a King and not villain from last week who joined in

[regal pulsar]

exactly, and u can even see it most shown in the minigames where u can see how proud and happy he is

[exotic geode]

Who's got the Dedede compilation?

[regal pulsar]

THE TOME FINDER or whatever its called MINIGAME

[exotic geode]

For the minigames?

[terse gazelle]

Again he can express well just not as exaggerated as the original

[dense iron]

Definitely like

The best SA dedede ever looked

[regal pulsar]

YEAH

i think its the fact that he had a neck LOL

[dense iron]

Agreed

[regal pulsar]

he wouldve looked WAY better if his neck was Gone.

[gritty estuary]

he is also tall

[regal pulsar]

like

someone edit his head to be lower

[exotic geode]

Dedede look like a stalker in SA

[regal pulsar]

and hed already look 10000x way better

[gritty estuary]

break his neck

[regal pulsar]

PUSH HIS SPINE IN.

[dense iron]

ngl sa dedede's beak was good

They just didn't know how to animate it well 💔

[odd rampart]

personally i think big thick lip beaks is just awkward

awkward for anyone to draw, anyone to animate, or just anything really

[dense iron]

and its not like those beaks CAN'T be animated like look at blowout blast

[exotic geode]

Star Allies Dedede look like a stalker

[odd rampart]

eh

[exotic geode]

To me

[odd rampart]

the lips thing is just. not the look

[gritty estuary]

he looks so oddly lifeless

[odd rampart]

because he's not staring at Kirby + rimlighted as fuck

[earnest sphinx]

SA isn't as bad as 3DS Dedede imo

[odd rampart]

girl

3DS Dedede isn't even bad he's just Angry

[dense iron]

Hop of my goat.

[regal pulsar]

B|

[dense iron]

HOP OFF MY GOAT.

[regal pulsar]

yeah 3ds dedede isnt that bad its just... weird

[regal pulsar]

he looked better in cutscenes tho

[dense iron]

I will protect him with my life

[odd rampart]

in any case i like it when they make his beak like. actually Beak-esque

[earnest sphinx]

i actually really like club penguin dedede lol

[regal pulsar]

Also I think I noticed SA Dedede is just a step forward to FL, what with whatever they did with the beak

[odd rampart]

the lips is just so awkward to think of especially when its wider than the front of his face

[gritty estuary]

he is also perfect

[regal pulsar]

really helped dedede be much more expressive

https://tenor.com/view/king-dedede-dedede-hello-chat-hello-gif-25561333

NOW LOOK AT HIM NOW

LOOK AT HOW CUTE HE IS

[earnest sphinx]

GOOD

[gritty estuary]

hes so big

i love how puffy his coat in rtdl dx

[dense iron]

fl dedede my beloved

[regal pulsar]

we reached PEAK

[odd rampart]

yeah see look at how he has actual normal mouth now

[dense iron]

Erm? We reached peak since 2014

[gritty estuary]

also they used him in 2 games allready

[odd rampart]

his mouth isnt wider than his entire fucking face

[exotic geode]

Now... any thoughts on Magolor's design?

[regal pulsar]

ok not wrong 😭 i didnt realize how much of a good choice that is

[odd rampart]

his mouth being wider than where his eyes are is just

Fuckign Weird

and i will die on this hill

[regal pulsar]

i know the big beak is such an iconic trait of dedede now but

now that i think of it

[dense iron]

God this was the worst part

[odd rampart]

its not even a BEAK

THEYRE JUST LIPS

[earnest sphinx]

peak char
i have a plush and it's the perfect shape for hugging

[regal pulsar]

that must've been such an amazing change for the animators

[terse gazelle]

Does anyone have a picture of new dedede doing this face?

[regal pulsar]

like they ALL just sighed in relief

"oh my god finally we can actually animate these lips"

[earnest sphinx]

not the best pic but

[regal pulsar]

safljalswHAWOLHORFYHWr

[dense iron]

So real

[odd rampart]

like he's still clearling doing the lip position

its just different

[odd rampart]

but god i swear wider mouth than where the eyes are just feels so eugh

[exotic geode]

https://tenor.com/view/return-to-dreamland-return-to-dreamland-deluxe-rtdl-rtdld-magolor-gif-27556838

[dense iron]

I miss the bigass eyes

[regal pulsar]

LOOK AT HIM GO

[terse gazelle]

Ok I think Imma retract my critics

[gritty estuary]

How puffy the coat is

[regal pulsar]

the puffy coat is the best addition ever

[terse gazelle]

Thats why its so funny

[exotic geode]

Who got the Dedede cannon pic?

[earnest sphinx]

Me and my brother laughed our asses off because we got this anim on Grand Doomer after he spent a sizeable chunk of Nutty Noon accidentally footstooling me into pits so Dedede pulling off that face was perfect timing

[regal pulsar]

oh you were playing as dedede?

[earnest sphinx]

ye

[regal pulsar]

LMFAO

[odd rampart]

i dont remember what footstooling looks like in RtDL

[gritty estuary]

oh my god

[odd rampart]

its just so fucking quick lMAO

[gritty estuary]

i still love how his icon is the peace sign

[regal pulsar]

TH EFUCKING SFX

THE "FUCK YOU" SFX

[wild frost]

How bout they just use Smash Dedede's face

[odd rampart]

🤢

[gritty estuary]

ni

id like them to use his kimono tho

[odd rampart]

kimono's fine

i just think the Goofy Stupid Smile is just

not his character anymore

[earnest sphinx]

ye tru
I really like the Mass Attack rendition of that outfit

[odd rampart]

let the character evolve past DL1

please

[wild frost]

SA Dedede would look better if the eyes were more expressive lmao

[earnest sphinx]

Man looks great in Mass Attack

[regal pulsar]

his eyes were expressive though, just not in a way youd like

[wild frost]

I'm gonna say it! I hate Club Penguin Dedede! (in RtDL DX at least)

[earnest sphinx]

:(

[odd rampart]

Like when I think of Dedede nowadays i dont think "oh he's a silly villain who always gets in the way tsk tsk tsk" which is what the smiling design is meant to portray

[regal pulsar]

understandable

[wild frost]

What about this one

[odd rampart]

i think of Dedede as an actual fucking King that has made mistakes but is now Kirby's befriended rival

[regal pulsar]

i mean ur giving 2d designs

[gritty estuary]

my friend

[regal pulsar]

we were talking like 3d designs

[odd rampart]

EXACTLY

[regal pulsar]

and thats like, very different

[wild frost]

Yes but what if that, but in 3D?

[odd rampart]

he's still friendly looking but he's also someone who can look so angry when he has the chance

[regal pulsar]

on a technical and aesthetic standpoint

[odd rampart]

RtDL Dedede and Smash Dedede is just.

[regal pulsar]

its gonna look bad sorry

[odd rampart]

Literally only Smash Dedede has angry faces that actually look angry

[torpid reef]

This is peak ddd

[regal pulsar]

we already had a similar design with TDX design anyways, and it looks, fine ig

[odd rampart]

even then its still not my vibe

[wild frost]

What about marketing Dedede

[torpid reef]

Bad

[gritty estuary]

no

[torpid reef]

Jucky

[exotic geode]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-dedede-kirby-triple-deluxe-kirby-jump-gif-25244453

[pearl fjord]

3DS dedede literally always looks angry tho

[torpid reef]

Stinky

[dense iron]

on glaggle!!!

[odd rampart]

im talking about the smiling version dedede

[gritty estuary]

his irises are too big

[odd rampart]

which is RtDL/Smash

[wild frost]

3DS Dedede always angry cus he's wearing his crown too low

[odd rampart]

3DS dedede doesnt always constantly smile

[exotic geode]

What about Anime shit Dedede?

[odd rampart]

thats like a big thing about his face in those games

[gritty estuary]

anime dedede can be ok

[regal pulsar]

but its gonna take a while before you truly get a design that would look great AND be very expressive in 3D (and so we got FL)

[wild frost]

I wouldn't mind Club Penguin Dedede if his pupils were a lil bigger

[odd rampart]

i mean i think RtDL DX dedede already achieves that

[regal pulsar]

both did well

[odd rampart]

the only times it "loses" to the og is when they did weird shit to his face which they can still do

[exotic geode]

Then there's this.

[odd rampart]

this is RtDL dedede to me

[exotic geode]

Dude look like Tom

[odd rampart]

and Jerry

[gritty estuary]

air ride dedede lol

[regal pulsar]

This is what Air Ride 2 fans have been wanting

[odd rampart]

did they seriously need 2 low poly models lol

[regal pulsar]

i guess its for distance?

[odd rampart]

guess to keep it smoothly runnning

I know what theyre used for

[regal pulsar]

yeah

[odd rampart]

but why not just use one low poly model

[regal pulsar]

idk lol

prob for smoother transition

[wild frost]

Actually why bother with the Dedede discourse, we all know he'll get a new design in the next mainline game or two anyways!

[earnest sphinx]

[odd rampart]

and then he actually stays like this for the rest of time

breakign the cycle forever

[regal pulsar]

Kumazaki sees this post and smiles as the next project he's working on still has the FL Dedede design

[wild frost]

Every Dedede redesign is how you determine a Kirby mainline generation

[odd rampart]

eh

[regal pulsar]

Dedede has a personalized Dedede design for everyone

[dense iron]

Imagine if kumazaki just uses a better 3ds dedede design

[regal pulsar]

True???

[exotic geode]

Let's talk about Kirby designs...

I'll start- Super Star Kirby looks weird.

[earnest sphinx]

if nothing else I hope club penguin dedede sticks around long enough for them to make a plush of it

[wild frost]

Dedede but his crown aint over his eyes anymore. Peak design

[regal pulsar]

Shut Up DIE WITH A NUKE!! /j

[odd rampart]

as far as im concerned FL/RtDL DX is alerady a better 3DS dedede design because he keeps the angry crown and none of the wide lips shenanigans

[dense iron]

Real

[wild frost]

No! Save me from this hell! /s

[exotic geode]

Super Star Kirby looks bad. I'm not sure if it's an unpopular opinion

[regal pulsar]

referring to SS Kirby post i mean

personally I love superstar Kirby's design, he looks fine

[odd rampart]

i dont like Suepr Star Kirby sprite

[earnest sphinx]

I actually don't have a Dedede plush yet I want one but the current one looks weirdly lumpy in odd places

[odd rampart]

also why are we talking abut superstar

anyway

RtDL DX Dedede my beloved

[regal pulsar]

right lol

[wild frost]

RtDL DX Dedede my behated

[odd rampart]

then perish

[dense iron]

I am in the middle

[wild frost]

Noooooo!

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-king-dedede-ascending-ascension-ascend-gif-25045835

[dense iron]

He will always be the better dedede to me

[exotic geode]

Wait, they don't get that sticker back?

Where's that sticker?

[wild frost]

Does King D-Mind in SKC uses SA Dedede's model or is it just an upscaled TD one

[exotic geode]

Where is the Sticker?

[earnest sphinx]

wouldn't be surprised if it's the latter

[dense iron]

Latter

[exotic geode]

https://tenor.com/view/magolor-epilogue-hydroath-happy-valentines-day-valentines-day-dooter-gif-27558136

Bring back this sticker... please

[wild frost]

Really just the eyes going under his crown that keeps it from being peak

Maybe the pupils factor into it too idk

[dense iron]

bring the eyes closer to the middle

[odd rampart]

i dont want his eyes bulging out of his face and in frotn of the crown either tbh

[dense iron]

Raise the crown

Peak

[wild frost]

True!

Okay how bout this

[exotic geode]

Bring back that sticker

[wild frost]

Next game no Dedede how bout that!

[earnest sphinx]

amazing mirror remake

[exotic geode]

Where is the Hydriath x Dooter sticker?

[dense iron]

You know

I don't think asking for it over and over is gonna bring it back

But that's just me!

[wild frost]

Noticed the other day during a co-op session that this SA icon's used in the pause screen lmao

[regal pulsar]

okay then I'll just have to do the other way.

[dense iron]

Yeah lollll

[earnest sphinx]

yep

[regal pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/loading-gun-reload-gif-15869581

[inner jetty]

damn people are really hellbent towards hating the SA design

[wild frost]

Dedede used to be my favorite, until Magolor came

[earnest sphinx]

Magolor's been my favorite since Dream Collection 😌

[odd rampart]

FL/RtDL DX design just fits the character's entire history way better for me

[dense iron]

Average Kirby fan

[exotic geode]

I like the egg

[odd rampart]

i just cant go back to silly stupid smiley former villain design

[regal pulsar]

im like

indifferent towards SA dedede ngl

i dont like it that much but i dont hate it

[dense iron]

It's not that bad

[earnest sphinx]

yeah, he's friend-shaped now which fits his current characterization 🙂

[exotic geode]

SA Dedede look like a stalker to me

[regal pulsar]

its just rly weird

[inner jetty]

I'm just like it's a design and I can't really care any about any of them that much

[dense iron]

Y'all are just haters ‼️

[regal pulsar]

and kind of feels... wrong

[wild frost]

SA design is the closest we got to his many 2D artwork. Problem is the non-moving pupils lmao

[earnest sphinx]

SA Dedede just looks kinda dopey with his constant blank stare

[exotic geode]

Star Allies Dedede looks like he's looking through your window in your house while you are eating peacefully, waiting for a moment to attack you

[odd rampart]

people really underrate the fact that his big and girthy and gruff when he wants to be

Yeah FL dedede is friend shaped but he's also angry shaped he's best of all worlds

best design by far

[wild frost]

Is the KF2 promo art the same model for the amiibo lmao

[odd rampart]

No.

[gritty estuary]

nooo

[odd rampart]

the Amiibo does the stop pose

[gritty estuary]

hand

pose

[wild frost]

halt

[inner jetty]

I personally think that this is an unused promotional render from around the 25th anniversary

it's definitely older than SA render

[gritty estuary]

stop

[wild frost]

Peak design tbh

Yall can kill me now

[earnest sphinx]

god i hate that amiibo design

[brazen laurel]

ill be honest i never really cared about dedede's design all that much just cuz he doesnt do a ton for me as a char in general

[dense iron]

Best dedede design.

[gritty estuary]

blobfish dedede

enters the ring

[brazen laurel]

but i feel like overall i prob tend to like fl dedede more out of the 3d ones

[earnest sphinx]

WSDGTRERFGH

[dense iron]

dw bestie I'll protect you

We'll die TOGETHER

[brazen laurel]

its cuter and it feels like its making less concessions this way by having the mouth movable

even if theres a couple oddities to it

[inner jetty]

all things considered I can't even really point out what makes a good Dedede design so like
honestly my opinion is that he should just be twice as big as Kirby

[earnest sphinx]

fair

[exotic geode]

You mean this:

[inner jetty]

Like idk I don't really care for any of them

[earnest sphinx]

W I D E

[brazen laurel]

best dedede is whatever i find first in gifs

https://tenor.com/view/king-dedede-kirby-dedede-melee-gif-24033203

[gritty estuary]

he can do that

[brazen laurel]

shouldve seen that coming

[gritty estuary]

no

my pal

[inner jetty]

and honestly SA's Dedede ends up appealing to me most for balancing huge size with playability

[wispy crypt]

[gritty estuary]

i wanna hug him

[odd rampart]

does that mean FL specifically fits ur criteria

[wispy crypt]

WHAT

[dense iron]

He looks goofy in this cutscene

~~goofy in a bad way ~~

[gritty estuary]

64 my beloved

[hot lotus]

alright everyone… make way for the TRUE dedede design.

[odd rampart]

as opposed to the original where he also looks goofy in a stupid way but we forgive it because that design was 10 years ago

[hot lotus]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/brawlinthefamily/images/a/ac/ChDedede.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/300?cb=20101128163923

[wild frost]

For me, what makes a great Dedede 3D design is what makes him look the closest to his modern 2D art

[exotic geode]

Ok, Cope Shot Fanclub CEO

[odd rampart]

eh

[gritty estuary]

riki dedede

[odd rampart]

i still don't actually like his wide lips design so i don't really look for the 2D art versions of dedede

[hot lotus]

is riki the one who makes the clash art

[dense iron]

Agreed

[hot lotus]

thats awesome

[gritty estuary]

yes

[flat hinge]

this is so funny

[inner jetty]

I'm not going to say that I'm a huge fan of RtDL Dedede to begin with but putting FL Dedede over him doesn't do it for me

[odd rampart]

like thats the thing

[hot lotus]

i like how riki draws magolor irritated all the time

[inner jetty]

I just don't care for either

[brazen laurel]

mans like :))

[odd rampart]

I dont think the design that are all absed on Super Star just portray the character well enough

[earnest sphinx]

it's hilarious

[undone falcon]

best dedede

[exotic geode]

Then there's this

[odd rampart]

you keep ending up with a design that was forever and consistently made to signify "this is a small-time villain" when he's grown past that

[gritty estuary]

this one i think is cute

[odd rampart]

and this fuckin frame just adds to my point

[undone falcon]

why does he look like that

that smile

[odd rampart]

because he's fuckin EVIL in that game thats the POINT

[gritty estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/king-dedede-waddle-dee-strawbebby-meat-kirby-gif-24599816

he eat

[brazen laurel]

tbh its limited sprite but

[undone falcon]

awwwww

[brazen laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/kirbys-adventure-nes-kirby-dedede-bad-idea-gif-24624063

[odd rampart]

i like the versions that the K64 dedede spawned

[gritty estuary]

i like how he eyes vlose

[brazen laurel]

this is closer to 64/fl than the old one

[odd rampart]

which includes 3DS dedede because of hte beak and angry crown

[undone falcon]

he is a little devious true

[inner jetty]

I know it's probably pallete limitations but it's funny that his hat has like
the same color as his gloves

[odd rampart]

DL3, K64, 3DS, KatFL Dedede are what i prefer

[odd rampart]

i still dont why this is, the red from the robes is right there

[undone falcon]

orange hat dedede

[gritty estuary]

how he blinks in 64 is cute

[brazen laurel]

3ds is pretty different from the others im p sure

[odd rampart]

and it snot like they palette swapped dedede in the games that had those sprites at any point

[earnest sphinx]

chunky dedede is peak

[inner jetty]

3DS dedede is honestly one of my least favorite designs if I had to name one

[odd rampart]

not really

[wild frost]

How's this for your tastes

[undone falcon]

since we're talking about different dedede designs

[gritty estuary]

him going - -

is cute

[undone falcon]

i suppose we could call these the dededesigns?

[inner jetty]

the over exaggerated pupils just kills the design for me

[odd rampart]

u keep showing this era of dedede like ur bringing something new to the table

[hot lotus]

is this an edited render i swear his eyes are bigger in this

[inner jetty]

it would otherwise just be better than RtDL Dedede

[undone falcon]

< best dedede

[gritty estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-kirby-fighters2-king-dedede-sad-big-sad-gif-22380034

[dense iron]

Peak

[wild frost]

Can't a guy like an older Dedede without being called out

[dense iron]

peak

[regal pulsar]

no his eyes ARE edited

[gritty estuary]

he looks so silly

[regal pulsar]

anyways i think it looks scarier

[gritty estuary]

his neck is weird

[regal pulsar]

actually wait no nvm

i think its just the way u edited it LOL

i think itd actually look nicer

[undone falcon]

sa dedede is peak cause of this

[odd rampart]

i just do not like the versions with DL1/KSS beak

[dense iron]

||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1019293243944476672/1089924933427154954/image.png || don't open this image! You will shit your PANTS

[odd rampart]

he just looks so much like a fuckin caricature

[undone falcon]

AAAAAAAAAAAA

[odd rampart]

just ends up looking like he's parodying a person/character than it is being his own character

[dense iron]

I warned you....,

[gritty estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-king-dedede-kirby-gif-12019807

[regal pulsar]

GAHHHHHH

[dense iron]

EEEEYIKES!

[gritty estuary]

the anime one has a neck to

[regal pulsar]

Horrible

[odd rampart]

they all have necks

[wild frost]

I also shrunk the beak a bit lmao

[undone falcon]

this is the best dedede

[brazen laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-triple-deluxe-king-dedede-dedede-shadow-dedede-gif-27561691

[hot lotus]

hand me another bag of poop

[brazen laurel]

best dedede design

imagine not being evil

[undone falcon]

dededark, the best dededesign

[hot lotus]

did you know the dimensional mirror can float because it has wings? True

[exotic geode]

https://tenor.com/view/king-dedede-king-d-mind-taranza-shut-the-fuck-up-team-kirby-clash-gif-25401415

[gritty estuary]

edited stock art dedede

[warm sun]

Instead of fighting Galacta, DMK,l and Morpho over and over again we should get even more counterparts of Dedede

[hot lotus]

what is d-mind again. aren’t there like 30 steps to how he works

[odd rampart]

man mfers really be like "posts the same design again and again" while i go out of my way saying why the vibe of RtDL DX fits the character the most like damn

it really do be just nostalgia huh

[undone falcon]

i do like fat dedede

the fl and rtdx one

[exotic geode]

When was he not?

[wild frost]

We all know it's gonna be changed soon anyways

[odd rampart]

(and then it doesnt get changed forever)

[gritty estuary]

this cutscene one looked ok

[undone falcon]

well

fine

big neck dedede

[gritty estuary]

for a bit

[wispy crypt]

what

I don't know how to feel about the eyes

[undone falcon]

ok this is peak

[wild frost]

(And then the next shot he got the stare of death)

[gritty estuary]

yeah

[exotic geode]

You mean no Neck

[gritty estuary]

i said for a bit

[undone falcon]

big hood dedede then

[wild frost]

Kumazaki secretly in this server gathering all the Dededesign arguments to create the perfect Dedede design the caters to all

[regal pulsar]

finds out that people have different tastes in designs

[regal pulsar]

gets shocked

[odd rampart]

or they stick to the RtDL DX/FL one because its from the best-selling game in the entire series including DL1 and KSS

:)))))

[wild frost]

Do I dare edit RtDL Dedede's pupils bigger lol

[exotic geode]

Take a look at Dedede's minigame win animation

[dense iron]

Me when people have opinions

[undone falcon]

make them cover his whole eye

[regal pulsar]

bug dedede

[odd rampart]

Anyways. FL Dedede good. that is all. and none have managed to come up with anything else.

[undone falcon]

i agree

i like fl dedede

[dense iron]

I like fl dedede

[undone falcon]

im glad they changed up his design

[dense iron]

I just like 3ds and rtdl dedede more

[valid locust]

#kirby-kingdom at this point pls

[dense iron]

Sorry not sorry!

[undone falcon]

also it looks like the kirby 64 one

[dense iron]

But yeah true

[undone falcon]

yeah true

we're gettin carried away about dedesigns lol

so

[odd rampart]

do we have RtDL DX sales numbers yet

[undone falcon]

magolor right?

[wild frost]

2 magillion dollars baby

[valid locust]

only in japan I think

if RtDLD sold more than one million already (very likely) it will be in the next nintendo sales report

[odd rampart]

whast the numbers 👀

[valid locust]

but I forgot what that is

huh

it debut with almost 200k in japan

[undone falcon]

i made peak

[exotic geode]

Now it's at 300k