bl4-buildcrafting

[dire anchor]

Bleed route is also rather bad. I think it's just time to shelf this game for a week or so until someone comes up with a viable C4SH build sadly

[static niche]

Flak Cannon fucks holy shit

[solar jetty]

2 points in metal mangament with rafa seems to give only 2 seconds of infinite ammo, not 4 seconds as its written in the skill

[teal siren]

Yeah, it looks like I'll have to rework my C4SH again. Cuz my pure cards build isn't doin' much against the raid bosses right now.

[barren lagoon]

I've only seen pistoleer builds pop off

everything else seems real lackluster

[teal siren]

Then I guess I'll mess with that then, for now. Gives me a chance to see how it is for the first time anyway.

Any particular pistoleer builds come to mind?

[astral breach]

Does anyone know if awe ever got fixed. It was bugged to where the shots would only crit for a short duration ⚡️

[final abyss]

folks someone give me the run down on subjugator

[ember berry]

Does mobalytics have the pistoleer build? Cause moxsys stackbot build is nuked with the gloam update lol

[tawny swift]

has anyone gotten rafa to not feel like a coughing baby vs new boss

[mighty storm]

underbarrel spam

[tawny swift]

apo lance or cannons

[dim epoch]

Hi

Still want it

[tawny swift]

i was watching lazydata use spread launcher and beam tosser and it still looked terrible. would you mind sending your build?

[mighty storm]

cannons for easier spam

[mighty storm]

its nothing special, basic setup

devil may care is for sustain

subjugator is rough cuz its hard to hit spread shots on him

[dim epoch]

This new smg is WICKED

[static niche]

chuddy skills

[echo jolt]

The new firmware drops everywhere as long as your on Uvh7, correct? Not just the raid?

[barren lagoon]

Lazy Data had one, but I can't quite recall what the spec was

but yea no
Moxsy's is def cooked

[mighty storm]

https://medal.tv/games/borderlands-4/clips/mNTwsIkSJCsIlUj-N?invite=cr-MSxadkssMTQwNTQ0Nzg0&v=150

[static niche]

Gatling or Screw?

[mighty storm]

heres the actual kill

[dim epoch]

I like Gatling, haven’t tried the other yet

[static niche]

I got myself the Juliet

its aight, but I bet a shotty version would be really nice

[hexed breach]

Some good builds after the nerfs?

[static niche]

Trooper Harlowe still kickin

[tawny swift]

def not too bad but melee being as good as it is i would have a hard time swapping

[mighty storm]

dont blame you

[dim epoch]

New pearl shotty good too

[mighty storm]

need a better way to kill sub before last phase tho

[neat olive]

The only thing difficult about the melee fight is hitting Subjugator

[mighty storm]

spread is just too,,,, spread

[tawny swift]

its not hard at all

[mighty storm]

u can be pretty floaty with knives

u gotta time ur jumps and slashes and u can basically infinite jump

[neat olive]

I know but you're still at the mercy of RNG, especially if you move too early he flies higher up

Also keep locking onto Thol when they're both in the ring, killing him

[mighty storm]

rafa prolly wont be my character to farm them lol

much simpler on c4sh

or even harlowe

[dim epoch]

New fav Jakobs shotty

[tawdry swallow]

YES

[tired plinth]

Do you know what the unique ability of it is?

[tawdry swallow]

Whats it called

[static niche]

Flak Cannon fuckin disgusting

[dim epoch]

It doesn’t say but I feel like I’m getting extra ricochets

I’m gen not sure what it is exactly but it’s fun

[tired plinth]

I know it definitely passss through enemies

[dim epoch]

The piercing too yeaa

[solemn kayak]

I know people are killing them so they won't, but gearbox really needs to look at nerfing the 3rd phase of health. You literally need a minmaxed build to get platinum which is ridiculous. Make it hard, sure, but their health should not be like it is

[neat olive]

It's a raid boss, that's literally the point

[dim epoch]

Also what’s your user

[tired plinth]

Is it worth farming the new raid boss on uv7?

[mighty storm]

tbf there’s no exclusive reward

[tawdry swallow]

Etay

[solemn kayak]

you never needed to minmax any raid boss before, these fights literally call for godroll everything

[dim epoch]

A minmaxed build should be what it takes to get plat.

[tawdry swallow]

Do u get it from getting plat?

[dim epoch]

Nah thol dropped it

[tawdry swallow]

Ooo shii

[dim epoch]

As well as a second shotgun gatling harharhar

[mighty storm]

vora:

[dim epoch]

Worse than my current tho

[tawdry swallow]

I got the gatling alr but its a bad roll

[solemn kayak]

I just don't think godroll builds should be gatekeeping a plat chest. Like I said people are completing it so it's whatever but it bloomweaver wasn't like this. Exploit aside you could get plat playing the game

[dim epoch]

Yes they should

[neat olive]

We've only had one other example which is Bloom, which was a pretty poor example of a raid boss

[tawdry swallow]

Etay

[dim epoch]

Genuinely they should

😭 it’s the highest tier reward, you should be at your strongest to be able to get it

[tawdry swallow]

Bl4 raid bosses r geniunely cake walk i actually enjoy thol and sub being so hard

[mighty storm]

they’re lowkey not even too hard just really fat

[dim epoch]

Indeed fat as hell

[tawdry swallow]

True

[tired plinth]

Is the bod still the best in slot shotgun?

[solemn kayak]

Strongest is one thing, a complete godroll build is not strongest, that's just hoping rng is on your side lol. It's gonna be an agree to disagree topic but I just don't think it's fun to bring an endgame farm like this and take the biggest part of the farm away just because no one can get godroll everything or save edit

[tawdry swallow]

I dont like how much subj phase 2 throws shit out theres too much on my screen

[mighty storm]

u def do not need godrolls

[tawny swift]

just dont do sub phase 2 ezpz

[neat olive]

Yeah only you have said about needing godrolls

[static niche]

Just be a chud and put the fight in UVHM1 mode

[neat olive]

Not everyone is running perfect gear and still beating UVHM 7

[solemn kayak]

Again it's gonna be an agree to disagree thing. It is what it is

[final abyss]

real shit why are they so tanky. it’s not even bad it’s just damn they’re hearty and they also have an extra phase compared to Thol

[neat olive]

UVHM 7 is for people who want the highest difficulty for the highest rewards, you can't play it and then complain it's too difficult but still want the rewards

[mighty storm]

u like just don’t need godrolls tho

[dim epoch]

@tawdry swallow can you do the dupe part or do I need to

[tawdry swallow]

Im uvh7 have lots of grolls but mu best time is gold

[tawdry swallow]

Idk how to

[dim epoch]

I must join you then

[neat olive]

Has anyone done anything cool with Rafa's new Bombastic com?

[solemn kayak]

I'm not trying to argue, but I have not seen a single run or build not using either godrolls substats or godroll underbarrels

[tawdry swallow]

Ok

[mortal mica]

So the Jail-broken gattling sometimes bug in its stacks? Sometimes i get 0 recoil and damage bonus?

I reload the map and then its fine again

Sometimes i cant even change my weapon and its not stacking again

[neat olive]

I've been using melee Rafa which is pretty much as little gear as possible

[solemn kayak]

I'm not saying you need a complete godroll build but you can't say someone is just picking something up off the street then doing uvhm7.

[dim epoch]

Well duh

[neat olive]

Wouldn't be much of a raid boss if they could

[mighty storm]

i think… that’s the point…

uvhm 7 gives like 2% more drop chance and buffs health by 300% compared to uvhm 6

[tawdry swallow]

Tyyy

[tawny swift]

i mean crossfire c4sh and melee rafa basically just need shields and class mods

[tawdry swallow]

Do u have a groll scoot n shoot by any chance

[mighty storm]

every c4sh build is like very non gear dependent

[tawny swift]

and that is the reason those are the two builds i mainly play bc i dont really like farming for perfect gear

[mortal mica]

@mighty storm you sure for uvhm 7 its only 2%? the exp and all that stuff increasing way more than from uvhm 1->2 , 2->3 etc

[tawny swift]

do card builds do card dps now? i felt like on release everyone was using cards to buff weapons

[mighty storm]

the drop rate percentage increase

[mighty storm]

not too sure, they don’t proc bleeds anymore so prolly not

[neat olive]

My card build is all cards, it's just Cooler for GB to one shot

[dim epoch]

@tawdry swallow spam your bank open/close for me

[mortal mica]

@mighty storm yes i feel like the boosts for 7 are better than for any other

[mighty storm]

well yeah

but its marginal

[dim epoch]

That’s why the hp increase is so high

[mortal mica]

the hp increase is so high caus the power level the new pearls bring are insane

[tawdry swallow]

Ty bro

[radiant holly]

I’m trying to figure out a gun C4SH build that doesn’t rely on gloam to glow but it’s difficult

[mortal mica]

1 magazin of the new jailbroken gattling (if the stacks not bugging) and i kill 1 phase of our new raidbosses

[dim epoch]

🤝

[tawdry swallow]

W

Lets see if i can get plat with these 2 editions

[neat olive]

Does anyone know the fourth skill on the Rafa com? Mine have only got Cruel Acruel, Centro and Metal Management

[bitter cloak]

😭

i hope thats not true cuz thatd be such shit balancing

[mortal mica]

i mean you should play on 6 unless you have a good build

then its kinda whatever for mobbing anyway

And once you hit that spike on 6 being able to kill the new raid fluently , i found the jail broken gattling on my first try gold medal uvhm 6

[static niche]

I'm surprised how powerful the firestorm projectiles are on the Gomie

[tawny swift]

first impression i think

yea first impression definitely

[solemn kayak]

Going back to your melee rafa build up top, does enhancmenet matter or just trying to get good subrolls

[tawny swift]

just having the correct firmware

can go for maliwan with gun + shotgun stuff for ffyl if you really want

class mod needs 5 points per my last
grenade is just for stacking diamond hands(im not sure if this is the skill but one of them just something that does a lot of ticks)
repkit any kill spring you overkill so much it full heals every time
enhancement doesnt matter
shield just the highest capacity you can find

[solemn kayak]

I'll look and see. I never was lucky enough to get a good beamtosser so may go for something else on that one, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something

[tawdry swallow]

@dim epoch

Got plat on the fight on my second attempt love these guns

[dim epoch]

WWWWW

Just got this

[solemn kayak]

@dim epoch was just about to post mine. Exact same but corrosive

[tawdry swallow]

Is that new too?

[dim epoch]

Yeah dude there’s a bunch of new pearls

[oblique ingot]

My C4sh build

[tired plinth]

Is the bod still the best shotgun to use?

[dim epoch]

Not anymore I hear

[solemn kayak]

Bod got nerfed today. Lost 60%

By no means is it bad but I think underbarrels like spread launcher and beamtosser took over for now

[tawdry swallow]

Appearently the jail broken has varients

[tired plinth]

Other than underbarrels are there any worthwhile shotguns?

[tawdry swallow]

I just got one with 10k dps

[dim epoch]

We still using underbarrels?

[oblique ingot]

Hellwalker

[dim epoch]

Well yes

[oblique ingot]

Convergence pretty good too

[tawdry swallow]

I thought it was just the elements that change

But i got one with different parts

[frail monolith]

yeah they are still silly good

[static niche]

yeah its fixed licensed parts iirc

[tawdry swallow]

Is there any shotgun thats like the conference call

[frail monolith]

rezur got a 1:15 on the new raid boss uvh7 with underbarrel spam

very silly

[tawdry swallow]

Yea i didnt know i kept getting ones with 9,800 dps

[static niche]

maybe the convergence?

[tawdry swallow]

My convergence sucks

[static niche]

roll either SMG or Sniper multiloader on it

[tawdry swallow]

Its dps is just not good

[frail monolith]

i never trust the dps card

[dim epoch]

Crikey

[frail monolith]

that shit be lying all the time

probably

[dim epoch]

Maybe I should invest instead of nerfing myself all the time

Have got these so far, all fun

[static niche]

Lowkey I think they were planning to drip feed the 8 world drop pearls across this and the next three content updates

[solemn kayak]

Just got this while farming for kill spring

[dim epoch]

Ooo imma need to get me one

Constable is my favorite so far it’s great

[solemn kayak]

Is there a way to better aim the melee rafa or is it swing and hope for the best? I was hoping the aiming had been better since launch but it doesn't feel like it