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#Pokemon Scarlet-Violet Spoiler Thread
sour pulsar
remote compass
Oh there's definitely a huge lack in mon variety rn
uncut sleet
Quaqaval gives Oviraptor a run for her money lamb
dawn carbon
joining here because a friend just spoiled me that they gave another starter motherfucking protean and i am literally on my hands and knees begging game freak to stop
remote compass
A lot of mons are in the same roles and it turns out the new ones do the roles far better than anyone else
dawn carbon
now that this is done i will leave
sour pulsar
Oh there's definitely a huge lack in mon variety rn
Glad i'm not the only one, because usum and swsh felt super fine team building wise
frozen shadow
joining here because a friend just spoiled me that they gave another starter mot...
Protean was nerfed
remote compass
Both had way more options for team variety
frozen shadow
It's fine
sour pulsar
Here's just "ok lemme put in a grass mon, oh wait they all suck"
silver tendon
joining here because a friend just spoiled me that they gave another starter mot...
Lots of shit was nerfed this gen
remote compass
You're streamlined way more here
raven sphinx
I'm never gonna remember these legendaries names man
silver tendon
The paradox mon names is actually the worst shit ever
remote compass
And again, the new ones just do the roles so much better than the old ones
frozen shadow
The paradox mon names is actually the worst shit ever
Yeah I agree
They are so dumb
silver tendon
They could have legit just named them like delbird + or some shit
remote compass
Yup, especially the future mons
silver tendon
Why do all of this extra shit
remote compass
"Iron X"
silver tendon
Iron hands
swift pumice
tinkaton has no business being as shit as it is
sour pulsar
Why do the tapus feel easy to remember, but the dark quartet feels super hard to remember their names?
remote compass
Tinkaton would have been insane in Gen 6 or 7
But it's 2 gens too late to be good now
uncut sleet
Well as far as I can see, vgc team variety should be pretty wide. Flutter mane isn’t going to dominate doubles, doubt it even sees high rep
raven sphinx
Why do the tapus feel easy to remember, but the dark quartet feels super hard to...
Because it's the word tapu and then like a two letter sound repeated
oblique lodge
But the terrains make them very distinctive and easy to remember
Like color coding
remote compass
I dunno, I think VGC is probably similar in that there's really not a huge variety of mons for roles rn
oblique lodge
Yeah the names are really nice
remote compass
And I feel like Mane is still gonna be major dominant
oblique lodge
Tapu then double vowel
sour pulsar
Because the tapus all have tapu in the name
Nah, i got used to them since day 1
remote compass
Remember that Spectrier was VGC dominant
oblique lodge
Wo chien is like so so much worse than the other ones it's crazy
remote compass
It's funny, I thought the fish was gonna be a lot better than it is
frozen shadow
Ting-Lu, Chien-Pao, Wo-Chien, Chi-Yu
remote compass
Chien-Yu just kinda feels meh
frozen shadow
Wo-Chien is really bad
sour pulsar
So uhhh
frozen shadow
Chi-Yu is very strong I think
sour pulsar
What's the theming here?
remote compass
It might just be that the fish can't survive all this rn
oblique lodge
Some mons absolutely destroy balance metas
remote compass
And once the format shifts and all the shit gets banned, the fish is gonna be good
frozen shadow
What's the theming here?
The names are all chinese inspired and are two-parters like the tapus
oblique lodge
Like I think gholdengo is busteddd and nothing to do with it's ability
But it's gonna take a while for it to get there
remote compass
I mean, Gholdengo has been proven to be very strong in my personal experience
oblique lodge
Gholdengo could've been cracked with like a non ability imo
The typing + movepool is insane
remote compass
But I think there's just too much good shit this time
oblique lodge
Basically what if we gave Aegislash everything it wanted
oblique lodge
I think glimmoras meh
Overrated
It's just harder to punish in ho meta
I think a lot of these initial reactions are too centric on an ho meta
remote compass
I disagree. You just get to freely setup and they gave you the game
If the meta slows down, Glimmora stops being as good
oblique lodge
Idk I just spam great tusk so it works out
And glimmora is always playing 5v6 with negative momentum
remote compass
But rn, I think Glimmora is better than people thought
You're saccing a mon to guarantee hazards
remote compass
Sure you lose some momentum, but rn, it's not bad
Yeah, that's the downside
Luckily there's not much in the way of hazards clearing seeing play rn
I think Glimmora will get worse over time tho
oblique lodge
Glimmora is just a gimmicky ho lead
oblique lodge
Great tusk is so frickin good
frozen shadow
And the gimmicky HO lead is better done by a Webs setter
remote compass
Great Tusk is operating off the error tho
oblique lodge
Nothing is like crazy about it just does it's thing and wins
remote compass
I think tusk will drop a bit when they fix the way it works
frozen shadow
Tusk is sweeping off the error but it is still good
remote compass
But I don't think tusk dies
oblique lodge
Idc about the energy booster set
frozen shadow
The best Tusk sets don't use the ability
oblique lodge
It's just really good stats and typing
raven sphinx
There's an error?
oblique lodge
Checks a bunch of stuff
frozen shadow
Yes
oblique lodge
Trades with a bunch
frozen shadow
Protosynthesis and Quark Drive are only 30% non-speed boosts
raven sphinx
Sheeesh
oblique lodge
Headlong rush (and cc) are stupid moves
remote compass
Yeah headlong is really dumb
I should maybe try tusk over Glimmora in this team to open up more lead options
Glimmora was when I was all in on Kingambit tho
And they're just fun
oblique lodge
I love me some kingambit
remote compass
I'm honestly surprised Kingambit isn't that good
oblique lodge
He's nutsss
remote compass
Like he's fine...
oblique lodge
And somehow underrated
remote compass
He just dies to too much rn
remote compass
Yeah exactly
He'll probably get better the more stuff leaves OU
But he's just not worth the slot for now
He's also just sorta too slow
oblique lodge
i doubt he'll ever be like the top of ou or anything but
remote compass
Oh same
oblique lodge
just a solid af guy
remote compass
But I think he'll get a fair shake when his threats die
oblique lodge
my boy max hp
remote compass
He'll also benefit a lot from them banning tera
oblique lodge
living everything
oblique lodge
He'll also benefit a lot from them banning tera
i think he actually gets a lot from tera rn so idk
like tera fairy (or w.e) is really nice
remote compass
He gets a big boost for sucker punches yeah
The most played Tera on him rn is dark
oblique lodge
cuz you straight up cant ohko him if its not SE
oblique lodge
The most played Tera on him rn is dark
yeah i use dark
sour pulsar
cuz you straight up cant ohko him if its not SE
Normal tera 
remote compass
But I think he doesn't need tera
oblique lodge
but i will admit ive only been playing aaa the past couple days
sour pulsar
(CC is not real)
oblique lodge
(im an aaa main)
remote compass
And he gets a lot better when it's banned
oblique lodge
most demonic mon ever is poison heal annihilape be glad you didnt have to deal with that
remote compass
Tbf a lot of the "fair" mons get gated behind Tera
oblique lodge
rage fist is a supremely silly move
remote compass
It forces things to be way too hyper offensive
Banning it will be good for the format
remote compass
Opens up a lot more variety in mons
remote compass
Defensive Tera isn't really doing anything special
There's exceptions obviously but you're better off going all in on the offensive
oblique lodge
Defensive Tera isn't really doing anything special
defensive tera is just making sure your offensive guy can surprise trade with thiers 
remote compass
Yeah pretty much
oblique lodge
oh and fairy avalugg fuck fairytable
remote compass
There's no walling or anything going on in defensive tera
I think the format is still lacking mon variety, but I think a couple bans including Tera can lead to a lot more of a varied metagame
oblique lodge
i think defensive tera can be real but its also kinda wack
some mons were just never meant to be fairy or steel or whatever with their current kits
defensivly
but i dont wanna doom so hard so early
rn the 70000 speed 70000 attack guys are constricting the meta
remote compass
Yeah that's really the biggest issue
Everything rn is too fast and hits too hard
Can't believe GF okayed half these mons tbh
remote compass
Eh it depends
remote compass
If Tera isn't banned, Luna has the freest format ever
Luna still has a very free meta
But Tera pushes him over the edge
swift pumice
I think the format is still lacking mon variety, but I think a couple bans inclu...
this is what happens when a meta doesnt has lando-t
but ppl arent ready for that convo
u know how u stop set up dnite?
lando-t
u know how u stop all the broken special mons?
heatran
pex can wall palafin but pex cant lean back on heatran and lando-t covering for it
all metas are improved with lando-t and heatran
sour pulsar
sinful sapphire
This was super helpful got nearly everything I needed but Valiant
oblique lodge
spdef heavy slam heatran wouldve saved us from flutter 🙏
remote compass
I'd unironically accept our lord and savior Lando here
swift pumice
waiting for home
remote compass
He's a necessary evil tbh
oblique lodge
wheres mandibuzz
miss him
but mandibuzz tbf wouldve lost every move and been shit
so ig not
swift pumice
its a crime that lando-t wont get defog anymore but
i think with sandsear storm
lando-t gets a whole new avenue of annoying
oblique lodge
we'll see
swift pumice
lando-t always lacked a real way to spread status much less burn
oblique lodge
all i know is lando-i is going to ubers after 3 minutes
oblique lodge
lando-t always lacked a real way to spread status much less burn
toxic?
toxic broken move tbh
swift pumice
lost toxic
oblique lodge
im okay with toxic psuedo leaving but idk how to play anymore
oblique lodge
nah toxic means nothing can setup on you
oblique lodge
it gave you outs to everything
swift pumice
toxic was broken in other ways
oblique lodge
and toxic made the spdef set god
ionic fjord
Lando-T has scald 2 now it’s fine
swift pumice
yea
i think sandsear storm will be broken on it
in ways that lando-t couldnt be before
where toxic let it break setup mons
it lost toxic
sandsear will let it infinitely block phys walls
oblique lodge
its so lame how we dont have the hisui mons in base
sour pulsar
Funny thing that now lando is only of the only good mons that can burn 30% of the time for free
uncut sleet
I think tapus being reintroduced is going to be the massive change in the meta, at least for doubles
pearl hinge
Which one
uncut sleet
Mabosstiff or w.e his name is
pearl hinge
Only thing I know about the mon is its one of the 3 or something new Mons that get intimidate
twin edge
SMH slander against the snail
dawn carbon
wait did they make a new weather
rustic raft
It just says it boosts the power of Ice Def
Yeah it's buffed hail
It boosts ice like sandstorm buffs rock ground and steel
dawn carbon
Why’d they change the name
pearl hinge
To make it similar to sandstorm
uncut sleet
Dondozo? more like donbozo
btw rabsca is actually bulky as a mf
faced down a skeledirge with no issues
so far in early testing, sadly appletun is the first pokemon up for being cut
uncut sleet
yeah, revival blessing hasn't been implemented yet which is wack though
6v6
not vgc
but it's a fine testing ground
uncut sleet
flutter mane actually got rekt by gastrodon + bellibolt
Y’all are sleeping on Bellibolt
I keep seeing the deer being used in doubles and he looks extremely underwhelming
I’m about to take off weakness policy and just put choice specs on Bellibolt for the real overkill
Iron hands might be in the chopping block if I can find a better fake out mon with the same coverage
balmy monolith
It boosts ice like sandstorm buffs rock ground and steel
Sandstorm only buffs rocks spdef btw
balmy monolith
Why’d they change the name
Cause it doesnt do chip anymore
ornate token
Hail no longer chips?
ionic fjord
snow is different to hail in general
twin edge
Hail no longer exists
rustic raft
Sandstorm only buffs rocks spdef btw
Oh huh, misremembered then
uncut sleet
Yeah my first impression of flutter mane in doubles after a dozen games vs it; this Pokémon is shit in doubles
Vsed about an even number of booster energy vs life orb sets. The best thing it can do is revenge kill before getting 1 tapped
I will note though, I am using a TR set so it could also potentially just be shit into TR
uncut sleet
I mean, hail had aurora veil, now it has aurora veil + an extra defense boost
My early take on weathers/terrains is, sand, sun and electric terrain have the most options
Rain won’t do well pre DLC/Pokédex expanding
crystal iron
Are there any defensive electric-type Pokémon
uncut sleet
Bellibolt has a big booty, but more of a bulky special sweeper
Iron Hands also has a fat booty, but lacks the supportive move set (no knock off)
balmy monolith
Was Hail some broken strategy
No it was changed to be buffed because it was weak
crystal iron
rustic raft
No it was changed to be buffed because it was weak
Imho it should have kept the chip damage
Basically both the boost and the chip
balmy monolith
Basically both the boost and the chip
I prefer no chip cause its lets you use something other than ice types without reprecussions
Sandstorms gets away with it due to having 3 types immune to sandstorm
uncut sleet
yeah not having chip is helpful
but i kinda feel as if the extra defense buff could be problematic
I feel as if the fix should have been, give water and psychic immunity to chip hail damage
would make sense
uncut sleet
idk, only other one which i felt made some kind of sense. twist it in some way around Mr. Rime
another dondozo wrecked
uncut sleet
ah loss my first game to another TR team
interestingly enough we had extremely similar teams
uncut sleet
So just to confirm
5 * raids are unlocked when you become a champion, 6* raids you get once a day, 7* raids are event only?
Is that how it works
edgy garnet
Normal Tera Dtagonite?
remote compass
Yeah
brave igloo
Normal Tera, Multiscale, stab extreme speed
crystal iron
Is Normal really that strong
remote compass
With multiscale and a substitute, yes
crystal iron
Also wasn't Maushold considered meh because of the prevalence of Ghosts
Isn't this the same issue
remote compass
You carry earthquake
crystal iron
ah
remote compass
That's usually enough
plush frigate
We take on water gym next, just had to casually take these level 21 team star nobodies down while I was around the town.
crystal iron
Number 3 will shock you
uncut sleet
Basically
crystal iron
Don't tell me it is Shocks
crystal iron
tfw no Mycelium Might
uncut sleet
I really want to try toedscruel
but I legitly cannot find one in game
Annihilape would actually be a great Assault Vest user, if it had fake out
sinful sapphire
Found
uncut sleet
first shiny found?
uncut sleet
man I'm 25ish hours in and I haven't seen a single one
sinful sapphire
Made sure to save this time lmao
uncut sleet
wow whirlwind hariyama lmfao
uncut sleet
what was your reaction
sinful sapphire
I was more annoyed than anything, I can always hunt it later atleast
Also 370/400 pog
Got all the exclusive, just breeding and then Ill only have the 4 Dark Tapus left
twin edge
crystal iron
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664566279381712899/1044694397733842994/...
good meme
gloomy hollow
but I legitly cannot find one in game
should be able to find them in soccarat trail or w/e, far north
i think i passed some there
sinful sapphire
Ya theres tons there
uncut sleet
I got to make my way back north,
sinful sapphire
Also Tagrltree thicket as a bit of a rare spawn
uncut sleet
I'm currently chilling south
plush frigate
I have to deliver a wallet?!
sinful sapphire
Oh ya that quest
Stick around the place you find the guy afterwards, some pretty rad deals
gloomy hollow
context?
remote compass
I swept his whole team with dragonite
Was under double d dance and stab extremespeed
1 tapped his "defensive" iron bundle
remote compass
Yeah, he was fucked the second he let me setup
gloomy hollow
also has very low hp to compensate : ^)
remote compass
This was like turn 45 btw, he just stalled super hard with Corviknight
plush frigate
did the false dragon titan fight since it was nearby, gonna deliver wallet next
all titan fights completed 😄
gloomy hollow
titans first is best imo, yeah
just for exploration purposes
i knocked out all titans, then swept what was left of the gyms
plush frigate
the salt strat got me the win
gloomy hollow
still have 3 team star fights to do lol
i also did salt for dragon, didn't want to deal with the bullshit
plush frigate
Mabosstiff
time to go back to the light house
Arven fight obviously too tough at the moment, time to take down the rest of the gyms like the water one I've been procrastiating
silver tendon
I’d be fuming
plush frigate
Stick around the place you find the guy afterwards, some pretty rad deals
yeah the bidding thing
uncut sleet
@silver tendon found any fun comp mon?
silver tendon
I’ve just been looking at the smogon landscape
I might fuck with iron delibird
But I still need to beat the actual game, I’ve just been busy with work@and lab
It’s a lot more fun to watch this gen than play it rn
uncut sleet
I feel the busy part. I need these days off to beat the game once and for all
sinful sapphire
Surprised that only Slowking, Gengar and Scizor are like the only trade evolutions in the game.
Also managed to get into a Volcarona raid pog
plush frigate
gym time
time to show this water gym leader who's boss
battle done, Yuya evolved
raven sphinx
NFE?
remote compass
Not fully evolved
raven sphinx
Ah
sinful sapphire
Btw, anyone up for trades/coop?
gloomy hollow
Lmao Bisharp speedran a ban from NFE
should have been day 1 if it lasted longer than a day lmao
still fiber
Holy shit the postgame is unplayable
Online 6* raids that is
You can't do 6* raids alone because the mons are the spongiest shit ever (couldn't do a dragon raid in time solo with a lv100 6IV maxed chien-pao) and the online raids the buggiest most broken I have ever seen
I already had 8 crashes, God knows how many freezes, sometimes the screen flies to God knows where and you can't tell wtf is going on for the remainder of the game, the tera mons hp goes away when it wants to and the same goes for the timer (due to lag I assume) and to top it all off you can't choose to lock the raid to a certain level so every other raid little Timmy joins with his lv40 mon and dies 5 times in a row making the run worthless
sinful sapphire
Also, randos are awful and I can never refresh the available raids
raven sphinx
Also, randos are awful and I can never refresh the available raids
You gotta fail to join 2 first
still fiber
And the worst part?
sinful sapphire
Shoutout to the chucklenuts that brought a mon the had Rest to a Ditto raid
still fiber
WHY DO I NEED FUCKING 50 CRYSTALS TO CHANGE MY TERA TYPE?
raven sphinx
Just pick em up in area zero
still fiber
5* raids or below only give you fucking 2-3 crystials
raven sphinx
It's what I do
sinful sapphire
I got tons in Area Zero as well
sinful sapphire
But ya, youre better off soloing 3/4 Stars
still fiber
Are there specific places for crystals? Bcs otherwise raids will be better regardles
sinful sapphire
Lower area feels best
raven sphinx
I mean I'd rather pick them up rather than deal with this raid finder system
sinful sapphire
Not really no
still fiber
Even soloing the raids it's awful bcs again 4-5* raids only give you 2-4 crystals
So you need to do 15-20 raids to change 1 mons tera type
That's such a huge waste of time
sinful sapphire
Ya, its really inconvenient hopefully the Event raids will yield boosted drop rates
still fiber
It's so weird because they made optimal IV, EV, nature everything so much easier to get
Only to hit us with one of the worst grinds ever due to how buggy and unfinished the raid system is
sinful sapphire
I also need to optimize some mons for Raids/PvP
still fiber
Outside of raids optimizing mons takes minutes in this game
With 140000 you can max out your IVs and get an optimal nature
raven sphinx
Outside of raids optimizing mons takes minutes in this game
How are you money grinding btw
Cause it's slow AF to pick up items in the desert all day
still fiber
Amulet coin championship
sinful sapphire
Also so, if someone with Violet hosts and I join (Scarlet) can I just go and catch all the version exclusives or nah?
still fiber
I just used the version exclusives trading codes for that
gloomy hollow
late in answering, but yes, that's possible
one of the better uses of teh system imo
sinful sapphire
Ya, def plan on shiny hunting all the Paradox mons
@still fiber Also Math class gives 50 Rock Shards
still fiber
I know but that's like
One of the worst types to tera into
Legit what mon that isn't already a rock wants to become one?
sinful sapphire
True, I just wanted to let ya know just incase
still fiber
Do we get any full shards besides rock and normal?
sinful sapphire
Not that I know of
still fiber
Inb4 50 bug shards too
Bug might actually be better than rock to tera into
Rock really needs new moves
still fiber
That's better, time to talk with the e4 dude
twin edge
Volcarona at home
sinful sapphire
Anyone up to just trade for Scizor and Slowking?
plush frigate
on ghost gym now
sinful sapphire
Nice
plush frigate
ooh ghost gym is double battles
plush frigate
one more gym down, 2 left
sinful sapphire
Nice, by chance would you mind helping m,e real quick with these trade evos?
plush frigate
cant, need to save and charge my switch
sinful sapphire
Fair enough
sour pulsar
Inb4 50 bug shards too
first impression tera lokix gaming
plush frigate
I genuinely didnt think torkoal was gonna end up being a part of my party, not complaining though
smolmurder sadly fell off
right now the team is: Lokix, clodsire, meowscarada, dachsbun, espartha, and torkoal
gloomy grail
sinful sapphire
gloomy hollow
ah yes, the tried and true classic of throwing berserkers at the problem
sinful sapphire
Last 4mons in my dex now are just the 4 Treasures, so Im going to do some EV trainibg of Goldenego then do gym post game rematchs for maximum moneys
Not sure if its the best but hey, seems solid enough
sinful sapphire
So I guess the universal strat for 5 Star raids is 3 or 4 Miraidon, 3 use Metal Sound and 1 hits lol. Makes these raids a lot faster
uncut sleet
I will bring my rabsca and set up trick room and you will like it
remote compass
Ya know, I wish all the paradox mons were the same mon in both games
late trail
I just got Champion rank last night, but I'm probably way under-levelled for the last battle
Anyone know a good place to grind until I get to like, the 60s?
crystal iron
It'd make them feel more coherent
While I agree conceptually, what could you do with a Future Misdreavus
Discounting they'd just make a robot
remote compass
That
crystal iron
Absorbed smog, become psychically enhanced?
remote compass
In that case, pick a different Pokemon
crystal iron
Well sure
uncut sleet
I mean, what if the last legendary is the creator of the scarlet and violet universes and made 2 parallel universes, one focusing on the past and one focusing on the future
remote compass
That'd just feel like a stretch to justify why they're not coherent
crystal iron
Give us Neo Onix
remote compass
Could have done crystal onix and like subway train onix
uncut sleet
Nah give us past garbodor
crystal iron
Is it a robot?
uncut sleet
Yes
remote compass
Sorta
crystal iron
Not explicitly in the way the future paradox are
remote compass
There's really no variety in the future paradox mons and it sucks tbh
crystal iron
You could interpret it as a robot
remote compass
Like give us a sudowoodo that's a lamppost or something
uncut sleet
I enjoy future donphan and future hariyama
remote compass
And then make the past one actually a grass type
remote compass
Yoo that's sick
remote compass
I wish the future ones had other stuff going
crystal iron
Future Porygon should just be a really hi-def duck
remote compass
Maybe an evolved Alakazam that's transcended it's physical form
crystal iron
Or a hologram
remote compass
So it's a psychic ghost
crystal iron
Normal/Ghost Hologram Porygon
remote compass
Future Porygon should just be a really hi-def duck
Can't do this one. Pokemon doesn't have hi def textures
sinful sapphire
I just got Champion rank last night, but I'm probably way under-levelled for the...
Outside the Fairy Compound use Ham Sandwich which cause a lot of Chansy to spawn.
crystal iron
late trail
Outside the Fairy Compound use Ham Sandwich which cause a lot of Chansy to spawn...
Gotcha thanks
raven sphinx
Ignoring the text
The person who wrote this hasn't finished the game 💀
edgy garnet
fr tho
The game's ending is unreal
sinful sapphire
Hard agree
pearl hinge
Shark Gible
It's just the gible from the beta version of the diamond pearl games
sinful sapphire
||Arven is incredibly based and I want to hug him||
raven sphinx
Arven is an amazing character
He's realistic in how he pushes everyone away
||he's scared they'll abandon him too||
crystal iron
The person who wrote this hasn't finished the game 💀
This was made prior to the game coming out
Just a guess at the gimmick based on the two professors
raven sphinx
Ah I see
crystal iron
It's just the gible from the beta version of the diamond pearl games
That would still be a cool reference to make in a Past Form
gloomy hollow
so do we know how the overworld tera mons respawning works, exactly?
i was able to get the garchomp in colonnade hollow to respawn, but the lucario in dalizapa passage still hasn't
still fiber
6 star raids are becoming full of perrserker helping hand squads now
That shit is finally manageable
If it becomes more popular than the endgame becomes bearable with 1 minute 6 star raids
uncut sleet
I mean you get only 1 6 star raid a day no?
So what if it takes an hour to complete
still fiber
I mean you get only 1 6 star raid a day no?
And that's why the endgame grind was lmao, you have to do online raids
And the online in this game is the buggiest shit ever
With perrserker 1 shot squads I don't give SV the time to crash on me or do some weird shit in the middle of the raid
The longer the raid takes the weirder it becomes
It's almost like you desync with the other players
brave igloo
sinful sapphire
so do we know how the overworld tera mons respawning works, exactly?
Seems to be that they respawn daily
gloomy hollow
garchomp did properly respawn tho
i'll check lucario again after i finish the story
gloomy hollow
still nothing
onyx ice
We did it 
still fiber
Now you can play the post-game (it's literally just beating all gym leaders and the e4 again)
raven sphinx
Nah you ain't done yet
onyx ice
Now you can play the post-game (it's literally just beating all gym leaders and ...
nah, I was never fan of post game. Will go play Arceus now
post game is just grinding and battlign, and its pretty boring 
still fiber
It basically doesn't exist this time
So good for you Ig
If you didn't get all the legendaries tho
onyx ice
Like I could grind and just battle, but I want to play Arceus, which I skipped
still fiber
You need to spend 1 hour looking for and taking stakes out of the ground
Because for some reason they decided to give each legend 8 stakes
still fiber
Yep
onyx ice
I never knew what they mean 
late trail
Interesting names :p
still fiber
ah, explains 1 of the 3 gates I saw
1 of the 4 actually
late trail
Btw I got to Area Zero earlier
onyx ice
So, what was flamigo's nickname
you will never know 
late trail
Damn that music is hot
still fiber
A0 was my favorite part of the story by far
onyx ice
It took me by suprise to hear Ed Sheeran singing in Credits
onyx ice
A0 was my favorite part of the story by far
sky Striker lore
still fiber
Having the team talk and stuff while you walk and the map itself gave me mad xc vibes
It was so much more immersive
late trail
Yeah it's super nice
onyx ice
Having the team talk and stuff while you walk and the map itself gave me mad xc ...
It would have been fine if not 10-15 fps there 
my pc couldnt handle a0 well
late trail
My fps is fine 🤔
still fiber
pc???
onyx ice
still fiber
late trail
👀
still fiber
My fps only gets super fucky online or when it's raining and stuff
Holy shit why can't this game handle rain?
late trail
Rain hasn't really been an issue for me either 🤔
still fiber
Have you tried playing online?
late trail
I can't think of a specific situation where I really noticed frames dropping a lot
Not yet
still fiber
Dw you will notice then
late trail
lol fair
remote compass
I'm only in Area 1 but my FPS is kinda consistently shit
Any time I switch mons or attack or anything
still fiber
I just blitzed a0 without battling anything until I unlocked mira again but I haven't experienced big FPS drops there either
Maybe it only happens while you have the party following you before you finish the game
still fiber
Go catch the paradox mons then kid
plush frigate
so just beat 7th gym, why is a small child an elite 4 member
late trail
Nooo the Iron Jugulis I just caught has a spatk reducing nature
onyx ice
I am there to find Iron Valiant and Iron Valiant only 
plush frigate
only one more to take down, Grusha the final gym leader
still fiber
Nooo the Iron Jugulis I just caught has a spatk reducing nature
That really doesn't matter this time
late trail
I did Grusha as my 6th Gym Leader I think. I tried him as 4th and wiped hard
raven sphinx
so just beat 7th gym, why is a small child an elite 4 member
Because she's cracked
remote compass
Man the pop in is also ridiculous
still fiber
You get like 3-5 mints in every 6 star raid
raven sphinx
She's harder than the champion
raven sphinx
Though that might be due to team comp
late trail
Her ||Tinkaton|| really is cracked
raven sphinx
It is
I revive stalled her cause that + my being 10 levels under leveled made it painful
late trail
Also right Needle, I forgot those were a thing
late trail
I'm doing a Dark Monotype run :')
raven sphinx
I'm doing a Dark Monotype run :')
I am so sorry
still fiber
Volcarola actually kinda soloed the entire e4 + champion mostly
still fiber
I am so sorry
Dark monotype is pretty good this time around wym
Maybe the best it has ever been
raven sphinx
I mean I wouldn't want to fight the final team star member dark mono type
That fucking car hurts
late trail
I was overleveled by then so the fairy guy wasn't that hard
plush frigate
I didnt expect Shelly and Queen (torkoal and espartha) to be on my final team, but I couldnt have done this without them.
raven sphinx
I was overleveled by then so the fairy guy wasn't that hard
I wasn't talking about the fairy guy
still fiber
Noc will have to get moon to perfect his team tho
raven sphinx
Yeah, I got walled on her, she out sped half my team cause all the new mons are slow af
late trail
I found out about the optimal XP grind
still fiber
Moon with flying tera type
late trail
And just did that for like an hour
still fiber
What is the optimal XP grind? I just do raids
raven sphinx
Not doing the fights on level 
late trail
Using a ham sandwich to make a bunch of level 47ish Chansey spawn at the area where the Fairy Team Star guy is
They gave like 3-5k xp around the 60s
still fiber
Isn't that even slower than doing the school tournament with an amulet coin?
still fiber
Lucky egg mb
raven sphinx
Money grinding sucks in this game man
I'm either a garbage collector or doing the slow ass tournament
late trail
Good to know raids give tons of XP though
still fiber
Actually
6* perrserker raids are faster than both of those
But requires you to have a team
late trail
Trying to decide whether I want to swap the Honchkrow in my party for Iron Jugulis... On one hand Honchkrow is sick, but on the other, Jugulis is new 🤔
still fiber
To unlock the good stuff (6* raids) you need to do everything everything
raven sphinx
6* perrserker raids are faster than both of those
Idk how to do this
late trail
You need a team of 4 who are all using Perrserker
still fiber
Get a perrserker unlock it's hidden ability and spam helping hand + steel move
You can get perrserker teams online too
raven sphinx
I've only been getting 5 star raids is what I meant
I've done the tournament, do I have to do the Dex too?
still fiber
You have to do 10 5* raids
late trail
I haven't even gotten past 2 star raids :p
still fiber
Your own raids
raven sphinx
You have to do 10 5* raids
That's gross
still fiber
Yeah again you need to do everything everything to unlock 6* raids
Beat the game, complete the post-game and then do a bunch of 5* raids
onyx ice
Why can't the raids on the map show their level
or be marked differently from the ones you checked already.. 
still fiber
So by the time you get them you will only really use the raids to farm for online teams
Because there will be nothing else to do in the game
Lmao
onyx ice
Needle been grinding pokemon this past week
late trail
I'm okay with that tbh
late trail
I meant more not having much else to do, I've been focusing on other stuff lately anyway, I don't think I'll grind Pokemon very much once I'm done with the story. Might try to slowly build up a good online team, that's about it
plush frigate
just made it to the gym, glaseado is so empty
late trail
Yeah it's weird to have a gym without a city
onyx ice
but at the same time, I dont mind that, cuz its like, different
plush frigate
snow slope run 😮
late trail
Yeah true
plush frigate
oh that was easy
now to take on Grusha
that eq hit pretty hard o.o but its fine
shelly swept first 3, now time for Grusha's tera
2 fighting terablast from Lokix takes the final gym badge >:D
now to finish off the team star bosses and train for the battles ahead like champion >:D
bleak gazelle
Oh needle solved pokemon too thats insane
sinful sapphire
If raids have taught me anything I now understand why Gamefreak makes such hand holdy games. Most these mf have no idea how to play. I plan on turboing the rest of the post game and grabbing Perrserker so I can just grind 6 Star raids
gloomy hollow
how bad is it?
bc for what it's worth, this style of raids is a bit different and the games are still new
so i could forgive people having to adapt
uncut sleet
sinful sapphire
how bad is it?
These people come into a Rock type raid with Fire types. Or go up against a Physical defensive wall with Physical attackers
In related news: Anyone want to help with a Dragon Type Copperajah Raid later tn?
uncut sleet
These people come into a Rock type raid with Fire types. Or go up against a Phys...
People either just don’t know the type advantage chart or are bringing their favorite Pokémon with no regard for other people’s time
What else is new
sinful sapphire
Mhmm
uncut sleet
Or people aren’t taking the tera type into account and getting blasted
ebon path
i think it's important to remember that a lot of these people are probably small children
sinful sapphire
True, but I dont feel its mostly kids that have quite gotten to 5 star raids yet
sinful sapphire
uncut sleet
Yeah the thought of 7 star raids sounds daunting
gloomy hollow
yay hp sponges
still fiber
If that's true then this shit will have like 10k HP
still fiber
They will have to patch online raids alongside 7* raid releases or they are just unplayable yes
Without cheese strats
uncut sleet
For what it’s worth 7 star raids are months away
gloomy hollow
you will get your next-to-unbeatable zard event and you will like it : ^)
uncut sleet
So here’s to hoping it’s patched by then
silver tendon
Is 6x currently in the game
uncut sleet
Yeah
still fiber
Wtf is 6x
uncut sleet
It’s your once a day
silver tendon
How long do does realistically take
still fiber
You can't solo it
silver tendon
Cause 7x seems incredibly meme
still fiber
It takes around 10mins with a normal team
But
Perrserker squads can one shot them
So 30 seconds with an optimal team
uncut sleet
It takes as long as it takes to find a decent team online
raven sphinx
Higher level raids will just 1 tap you if you're not careful cause they'll surprise you with a move you're weak to if you're not cheesing it
It's super odd
still fiber
Is 6x currently in the game
You have to complete the postgame and then do 10 5 star raids to unlock them
Or some number close to 10
uncut sleet
Even 5 star raids solo are difficult if you’re not playing optimally
silver tendon
I still@haven’t beat the game yet
still fiber
Even more so with the AI just bringing whatever
gloomy hollow
and i get to cry bc i'm a solo specialist : ^)
silver tendon
Also can you breed teratypes
gloomy hollow
but yeah not looking forward to that
gloomy hollow
Also can you breed teratypes
afaik no
still fiber
Someone will eventually find a cheese strat for solo raids
silver tendon
Whelp that’s unfortunate
still fiber
We only found out perrserker 1 taps today
still fiber
Also can you breed teratypes
No go farm 50 tera shards kid
gloomy hollow
steely spirit finally getting some positive recognition
still fiber
It's weird because they made everything else much more accessible and easier to farm
You can make a mon with 0 IVs and shit nature fully optimal in minutes
uncut sleet
Eh I don’t really mind farming Teras tbh
silver tendon
It's weird because they made everything else much more accessible and easier to ...
I@very much dislike the TM system in this game
uncut sleet
Only 2 Pokémon on your team are realistically going to be tera candidates
silver tendon
They@should have just left them Perma
still fiber
Idk I have a bunch of shit I want to change the tera type for more coverage
And even just 1 tera change can take like
2 hours
silver tendon
I don’t think I’d mind it if it wasn’t just grinding these raids it seems
There’s like@no@battle tower if you want to mix@it up
still fiber
You can also get them on the ground at area 0 but lmao
uncut sleet
Tbf you were going to be grinding the raids anyways if you wanted to breed optimally
Where’s my 6 star ditto raid at
still fiber
You are going to grind the raids for everything anyways
silver tendon
What do the raids give you for breeding
silver tendon
Also I just don’t find the raid system fun
still fiber
Because it isn't and it's a broken mess rn
Like
You can't fucking choose the kind of raid you want to join
uncut sleet
6 star raids guarantee at least 4 perfect iv’s I believe? Or was it 5
still fiber
5 stars are 4 6 are 5
7 will be 6 probably
6 raids also give you a bunch of bottle caps
uncut sleet
Yeah so if you’re a broke boy you get free bottle caps
still fiber
Which you won't be if you are doing 6 raids bcs they also give you up to 20k
And a bunch of mints
Again just everything
uncut sleet
Yeah but that money is better spent on ev items
still fiber
Yeah I'm just saying you won't be broke if you are spamming raids
Which you will have to regardless for tera crystals
So the post game rn is just resetting the board until you find a perrserker team to cheese raids with
Very fun
uncut sleet
Don’t worry, let’s wait till more people beat the game, see if we can get a discord tourney going
silver tendon
Yeah it’s called log into showdown brother
still fiber
I just want them to update the board to let me choose at least the tera type I want to face when searching for a raid
Please
That's all I ask
Ideally they should let the host filter people by level and type of mon they can pick for the raid and everything but we know they will never do that
uncut sleet
Lmao they’ll never do that
They don’t want little Timmy’s sitting in the lobbies with their houndoom forever
remote compass
Yeah I'd rather the tourney on showdown
brave igloo
ok that link gives way too big a preview
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/flutter-mane-roaring-moon-palafin-genesect-houndstone-kyurem-black-deoxys-speed-and-naganadel-are-now-banned-from-national-dex-ou.3711271/
Changing it to code due to too obnoxious a preview
TLDR; I just saw National Dex bans' first big wave
Flutter Mane, Palafin, and Black Kyurem were unanimously banned
Genesect continues its any % speedrun ban
I think it's just kinda funny seeing Mega Blaziken was on that poll and not banned
gloomy hollow
What's a good ev spread for annihilape?
max hp max speed if you want to final gambit bot
otherwise speed/atk sounds fine
gloomy hollow
ok that link gives way too big a preview
in the future you can remove previews from clickable links by surrounding it with <>
exmaple
raven sphinx
max hp max speed if you want to final gambit bot
Fuuuuuuuck
gloomy hollow
gigaton hammer can be used twice in one turn via instruct
so that's a doubles meme now, i guess
swift pumice
kinda liking the look of this team
abusing palafin before its gone and all
peak low-ladder
swift pumice
i do think i want some sort of hazard cleaner
twin edge
Dudes really just be setting up on threats
Reminds me of when I was facing a Clod while having Espathra behind a sub
Dude put up all his hazards while I was CMing
Clod died to the one-shot Stored Power and so did the rest of his team
swift pumice
lol
silver tendon
Skeledirge gaming
twin edge
Dirge fairy is annoying as fuck
surprising they added 3 new unaware mons
and all 3 are bozos
swift pumice
Dudes really just be setting up on threats
genuinely no clue why they thought they could race chomp with that team comp
no corv or ground immunity is crazy
swift pumice
Skeledirge gaming
fairy dirge is so good
ionic fjord
ionic fjord
Tbf
4 of these were always dying in every scenario
And I don’t mean the new mons
I phrased that very badly
rustic raft
wait they ried to allow naganadel ???
silver tendon
I assume they just let everything go each time a region comes out and then reban the problem kids
Also why did they ban houndstone and not Last Rites
gloomy hollow
they banned houndstone bc it's currently the only mon with access to last respects
i don't agree with the logic, but that's how they do it
twin edge
They don't like banning X on Y
Always creates a complaint storm
Not that it's ungranted
remote compass
Yeah banning "move on a mon" is generally a complaint problem
Although, last Respects is the problem, and Houndstone sucks
rustic raft
I mean they are gonna ban the move once home drops anyway
Because Basculegion can get it
remote compass
Yeah true
gloomy hollow
doing post game shit right now and holy shit does chien-pao murder the champ lmao
like 4 of her 6 mons are weak to common coverage on it
||yeah geeta is a really underwhelming champ||
||i love her design but her team feels really bad||
||can they start calling me top champion now||
gloomy hollow
doing post game shit right now and holy shit does chien-pao murder the champ lma...
i mention chien-pao here but it's the same for weavile in case you're not into using legends
also if you took fuecoco, it should do pretty well
rustic raft
||yeah geeta is a really underwhelming champ||
why the fuck ||is her ace mon something designed to be a lead||
gloomy hollow
great question
raven sphinx
||i love her design but her team feels really bad||
Unironically the second elite four member gave me the most trouble
gloomy hollow
i was overprepared for the elite four so they in general didn't give me much trouble
but yeah, i could see it
raven sphinx
She might actually be my least favourite champion
Like worse than diantha and lance
rustic raft
genuinely didn't know we could get a worse champion to fight than Diantha
remote compass
At least diantha uses hold items
gloomy hollow
it sucks bc i actually like her design, i think the overall champion concept in this game is neat
but her fight in particular is so bad
raven sphinx
I like that the champion league is being treated more like a job
remote compass
That's kinda how I've felt about the past two games as a whole
raven sphinx
But she has no presence
remote compass
Really good concept, but the execution could be better
raven sphinx
That line she says to you ||something like "Ive been told I have problems holding back"|| was when I knew she was gonna be easy as shit
Do you know what the strongest champions in Pokémon have in common? They're humble before they fight. I shouldn't need to be told that the champion is strong
They're the damn champion
edgy garnet
To be fair, from an extradiegetic/meta perspective, ||she's not the final boss. Nemona is.||
raven sphinx
To be fair, from an extradiegetic/meta perspective, ||she's not the final boss. ...
she's not
||nemona is the final person you face in the final quest you're given||
silver tendon
Seems like I need to fuck around with the mouse squad @uncut sleet
Apparently tidy up clears substitutes
crystal iron
including your own
sinful sapphire
still fiber
Please God don't make me get gholdengo
uncut sleet
Arcanine as expected is popping up a lot in doubles, so quaquaval all of a sudden becomes a very solid option
gloomy hollow
finally got around to catching the other ruinous legends
so that's out of the way now
rustic raft
Arven be like
pearl hinge
Lol
sinful sapphire
Deceptive title, but effectively you can get a bunch of Shiny Ghost types to spawn, but easiest with Flutter Mane. And these arent clone Pokemon either.
Requires Salty HM ofc
gloomy hollow
you can, just be prepared to use friendship berries on it to reset evs if you care about that
that or go ev train it first
plush frigate
I'll use friendship berries on it