Pokemon Scarlet-Violet Spoiler Thread

[spiral oasis]

but no battle tower sucks

[sour pulsar]

Hoping for some good fanart about dolphin vs lokix when the game comes out

[plush frigate]

picnic is day care equivalent

[spiral oasis]

at least they've made getting competitive mons a lot easier recently

mints/caps etc

[sour pulsar]

Yea, an rng based one

[spiral oasis]

whats rng?

about it

[sour pulsar]

The chance of getting an egg is random

[plush frigate]

at least you just have to stand still

[spiral oasis]

hopefully it doesnt take long then

[rustic raft]

wait imagine if there was no set for online battles

[sour pulsar]

That's just cope

Right?

Right?

[rustic raft]

Could you imagine if set mode was gone gone

[plush frigate]

set in online battles

[rustic raft]

Like not just for singleplayer

[sour pulsar]

Because luna existing and stall getting nuked was not enough

We need more snowball options

[plush frigate]

all new shinies

[brave igloo]

Iron Moth shiny tho

[plush frigate]

it be chrome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97wa7oSfBdY&ab_channel=KZCrow

[sour pulsar]

Ngl kinda want to shiny hunt the future mons

Same with KR and the dung beetle

And clodsire

And celuredge

And the worm, and klawf

Ngl might as well shiny hunt half of the dex, lots of good ones this gen

[gloomy hollow]

supposedly they might have gotten rid of the need to use incenses to breed baby mons?

[plush frigate]

OH MY GOD

you can afk eggs now

[remote compass]

How? Just set something down on the A button?

[plush frigate]

Every so often of time (not steps) an egg will appear

and the basket can have seemingly infinite eggs

So what would happen if I left my game running for 8 hours unattended

[brave igloo]

i'm not sure if the 1.0.1 patch was directly linked but here it was in picture form

They forgot to let Hisuian Basculin evolve

[spiral oasis]

slowbro G is in, thats very pleasing

big fan of that mon

[plush frigate]

team

with the fancy makio team builder

[pearl hinge]

Not using the twin rats or whatever those are supposed to be?

[plush frigate]

yeah

already have mons weak to fighting, another could cause issues

[spiral oasis]

I dont see any fighting weaks

[pearl hinge]

Yeah everything is either neutral or takes 1/2

[brave igloo]

Mascarada is weak
Lokix is neutral
Finizen is neutral
Dachsbun resists
Clodsire resists
Tinkaton is neutral

it's not plural mons weak to fighting

[pearl hinge]

Oh yeah it evolves into grass dark
I forgot about that

Easy solution
||Just do not evolve it||

[wet briar]

get a protean one

[plush frigate]

Oh right bug resists fighting

[brave igloo]

In fact your biggest problem isn't fighting at all

it's fire

[plush frigate]

thats what the dolphin is for

[brave igloo]

still fire

[plush frigate]

oh and wooper

and dachsbun

[brave igloo]

Daschbun is fairy tho

oh right body

[plush frigate]

dachsbun has an ability that makes it immune to fire moves, and raises def

[brave igloo]

rivhtg

i get iut

k

[spiral oasis]

just make sure the bug can terra water

looks like the dolphin has to level up knowing water veil

[plush frigate]

source?

[spiral oasis]

I saw an image on centro twitter

also chomp gets spikes gastrodon also gets spikes and rocks

[balmy monolith]

Interestingly enough people think the day -7 patch is not the day 1 patch so we will likely get another patch day 1 lol

[finite plover]

https://twitter.com/palkiaorigin/status/1591182441079013376?s=46&t=78OB9Fv8e0F-QpTqU4tLuA

PearlEnthusiast (COVERING SV LEAKS) (@palkiaorigin)

This dex entry slaps

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Wait, whose the predator? Also do we know what’s the new fly method?

[ornate token]

i'd assume its natural predator is that mon with the hammer whose dex entry says it actively throws rocks at flying Corviknight

[finite plover]

That thing? Tinkaton was the name right?

Also, we, we really going with the rocks and birds thing, for real

[ornate token]

hey GF said it not me

[finite plover]

Exactly, wth GF

[balmy monolith]

Does this look like the face of mercy?

Also i imagine it knocks them up with supersonic speeds

[fallow reef]

the hammer looks like an item from Crashlands

[ornate token]

why does it look like a Toxapex learned to live on land

feels like it's related to the Toxapex line somehow

[fallow reef]

it's a shame that most mons in this gen have the same eyes

[finite plover]

Nope it does not, to be fair I haven’t gotten a good deep look into every new mon we got

[rustic raft]

https://twitter.com/realblaines/status/1591319937326645248?t=7NcJQHBMwMbutgcXn-IYoA&s=19

Blaines  (@realblaines)

Flying garchomp lol

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Twitter · Nov 12, 2022, 6:40 AM

[balmy frigate]

Makes no sense

But they can do it

[gloomy grail]

man fuck this guy
all homies hate tinkaton

[balmy frigate]

Imagine if Copycat somehow bypasses the Hammer restriction

[balmy monolith]

Story speculations ||some people are theorizing that the third legend hijacked the "time machine" which is how the paradoxes happened||

[fallow reef]

either it can jet fart or it has some psychic shit going on

[fallow reef]

Horrible... this is BDSP level of movement

[deft oasis]

Plenty of Pokedex entries talk about it being able to fly, they just never say how it starts flying

[fallow reef]

that's not the issue
it's the animation of it flying

[deft oasis]

TBH, that's about as much as I expected from it

[crystal iron]

The flying animation isn't the issue, or not the main one

It's far too slow

Garchomp flies at Mach 1

1234 kilometres per hour

The animation do be rigid tho

[balmy frigate]

I love jt

It looks funny

Like an RC car

[ornate token]

Behemoth Blade

[deft oasis]

I initially understood this as "moves that were cut" and it blew my mind

[balmy monolith]

population bomb is a cutting move lmao

also population bomb is 20 bp 😄

[deft oasis]

Is that the mice mon's move?

[plush frigate]

tinkaton

[balmy monolith]

yup, hits 1-10 times

[plush frigate]

tinkaton throws rocks at corviknight, just for the fun of it

[balmy monolith]

yes, it's called quick travel

[deft oasis]

I mean, mice teeth can probably cut

So it makes sense

[balmy monolith]

The user’s fellows gather in droves to perform a combo attack that hits the target one to ten times in a row.

[plush frigate]

also apparently the evolution method for finizen is level 38 level up BUT you need another player in your world to spectate the battle

[balmy monolith]

jet punch is +1 priority with 60 bp

[deft oasis]

Wait what? That's really funny

[balmy monolith]

jet punch is palafin's signature

palafin has 160 attack in hero mode

[plush frigate]

what type is jet punch? Water?

[deft oasis]

OU gonna be fun this gen

[balmy monolith]

yes

[deft oasis]

They can't ban 20-30 mons to Ubers

So it's gonna be a massive powercreep to OU

Gonna be interesting after the really bland SS meta

[plush frigate]

alright, so basically another water stab with 60 base (90 after stab) for palafin, cuz you already are running flip turn

[deft oasis]

Do we know if the Linking Cord from Pokemon Legends Arceus is in the game?

The thing that bypassed trade evolutions

[balmy monolith]

we dont know
items are currently the thing we know least about

3
    Covert Cloak    This hooded cloak conceals the holder, protecting it from the additional effects of moves.
4
    Loaded Dice    If a Pokémon holding this item uses a multistrike move, that move will be more likely to hit more times.
5
    Ability Shield    An item to be held by a Pokémon. This cute and rather unique-looking shield protects the holder from having its Ability changed by others.
6
    Booster Energy    To be held by Paradox Pokémon.
7
    Clear Amulet    An item to be held by a Pokémon. This clear, sparkling amulet protects the holder from having its stats lowered by moves used against it or by other Pokémon's Abilities.
8
    Punching Glove    An item to be held by a Pokémon. This protective glove boosts the power ofthe holder's punching moves and prevents direct contact with targets.```

there are the items we know of

(the new ones at least)

we arent even sure if HDB are back

[plush frigate]

punching gloves for palafin?

[balmy monolith]

youre better off using something else honestly XD

[plush frigate]

honestly, scarf palafin could work

you flip turn it out, then switch into a defensive mon

[balmy monolith]

Thanks to FalcoLau from the forums
Wind moves:
Gust
Whirlwind
Blizzard
Icy Wind
Sandstorm
Twister
Heat Wave
Air Cutter
Tailwind
Hurricane
Petal Blizzard
Fairy Wind
Springtide Storm
Bleakwind Storm
Windbolt Storm
Sandsear Storm

[rustic raft]

what ability needs wind moves

[oblique lodge]

the electric bird i think

that gets a buff when hit by a wind move

[balmy monolith]

tumbleweed is immune to it, bird gets electric boost from them

[rustic raft]

oh being immune is actually somewhat nice for the grass type

[balmy monolith]

tumbleweed gets buffs from tailwind too

if the team has it i mean

Zapdos cant touch the tumble weed lmao

[rustic raft]

https://twitter.com/PhillyBeatzU/status/1591367625149665283

PhillyBeatzU (@PhillyBeatzU)

Players can enter your Pokémon world in scarlet and violet and steal your shiny ✨. 100% confirmed and tested.

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Twitter · Nov 12, 2022, 9:49 AM

this will kill friendships

[balmy monolith]

Someone made the joke that its like dark souls people invading and griefing you :p

[remote compass]

Lmao what

[balmy monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947505491662221394/1041047600691949598/image0.jpg

Shiny eggs

As in
Actually a shiny

[pearl hinge]

Nice shiny

It'd be a shame if I stole it from you

[raven sphinx]

Me omw to steal a shiny from my friends

https://tenor.com/view/speedrun-gif-19758930

[pearl hinge]

"my shiny Mon is cool"
"Our shiny"

[raven sphinx]

"you made this...? ...I made this..."

[plush frigate]

it may just be rare teratypes

[balmy monolith]

yeah someone else mentioned that

[rustic raft]

in 3 months it will be, what friends?

[balmy monolith]

Apparently auto battle will refuse to fight shinies

[rustic raft]

https://twitter.com/3clipse_tt/status/1591397606135328770?t=zd5Pb1RY7zhlL9jeoQxZPQ&s=19 @plush frigate

Eclipse 🌑 𝖄𝖆𝖒𝖎 𝕰𝖈𝖑𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖊! (@3clipse_tt)

We finally know how to Evolve Finizen!

KO a Pokemon with Finizen & LV. Up to Level 38 or more while another player & thier Pokémon are spectating your battle.

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Twitter · Nov 12, 2022, 11:48 AM

[plush frigate]

yup saw

[rustic raft]

Is each gen gonna do this

Another shitty gimmicky evolution way

[plush frigate]

what was the gimmick evo of gen 7?

[sinful sapphire]

Slazzle, Rockruff, Vikavolt

All reused evo methods but technically gimmicks. Also Malamars evo method carried over from XY.

[plush frigate]

but salazzle uses a gen 4 evo method

yeah

My guess for Finizen: Friendship Power done differetly

[twin edge]

By the by

Anyone know the shiny rate

It seems to be way way higher than it was in previous gens

[plush frigate]

may just be spawn rates being higher

[balmy monolith]

last respects, houndstone's signature, has 50 base bp and has 50 more for each dead mon on your team...

i think it might be possible to make a suicide team with the dog and kingambit

[rustic raft]

very powerful for a nuzlocke

[balmy monolith]

basculegion has it too apparently

[raven sphinx]

? Wouldn't it be weaker because you only get the one time boost as opposed to being reckless and having it proc every hard battle

[rustic raft]

moreso meant it for like, 'oh no I'm woefully underprepared or getting fucked over'

It's like

similar to having explosion

it's for niche reasons to get rid of something

plus I'm sure some 'pro' nuzlockers

will just

delete fodder

to sweep

[balmy monolith]

houndstone + basculegion + kingambit + suicide lead glimora + sand setter + one more
houndstone sand rush, basculegion with adaptability, kingambit with supreme overlord

this seems fun lol

[plush frigate]

basculegion should've had a move like this 😦

[balmy monolith]

he has it too

[balmy monolith]

ghost physical

[plush frigate]

LETS GOOOOO

[plush frigate]

apparently there is a rumor tinkaton has a special held item that doubles its physical attack

[balmy monolith]

this is complete speculation since we have like very little info on the items

[plush frigate]

I hope it does, but would be kinda nuts considering we know it has a signature move that is 160 Base

[ornate token]

Suicide lead hyper offense

[balmy monolith]

maybe pawmot for the last of the suicide team?
like use pawmot to revive one of the 3 main pokemon and then sack the pawmot

so
houndstone + basculegion + kingambit + suicide lead glimora + sand setter + pawmot
houndstone sand rush, basculegion with adaptability, kingambit with supreme overlord

what you think?

glimora learns all the hazards and also sets toxic spikes upon being hit

[ornate token]

ngl i haven't actually looked into most of the mons only Legion and Gambit so the rest are still blank to me

[balmy monolith]

houndstone is the ghost dog evo

[gloomy hollow]

suicide team sounds extremely gimmicky if you try to focus too hard on it

[balmy monolith]

pawmot is pikaclone final evo with the 1 pp revive move

[gloomy hollow]

also i remember last respects showing up on a few other mons

[ornate token]

suicide teams are gimmicky

[balmy monolith]

true but it sounds fun

[ornate token]

suicide leads are extremely common

[balmy monolith]

nope just those 2

[gloomy hollow]

houndstone line and basculegion line, right?

[gloomy hollow]

yes but it looked like metrona was talking about a team based around the concept rather than just ho suicide lead stuff

[balmy monolith]

Yeah i was talking about a team based on the concept
Not sure if itll be any good but its a neat gimmick

[gloomy hollow]

you might steal some games with it but overall i'd probably say it'll end up being bad

but if you want to have fun with a gimmick, then by all means

[balmy monolith]

Its a fun gimmick idea yeah

[twin edge]

I was goofing with the thought of a level 5 prankster Trick room setter

[rustic raft]

I mean, Met's probably one of the best comp players ik anyway tbh lmao

[gloomy hollow]

this requires elaboration

[balmy monolith]

thanks for the compliment, though i mostly theorycraft gimmick builds like the frosmoth rain team that i got to 1800 in every gen 8 ou meta

[gloomy hollow]

tbf i have little context for how good various people in here are at competitive, since i haven't paid as much attention to that scene recently

my response wasn't really a shot at their competence or anything like that, just discussing the concept

[balmy monolith]

Im still upset i failed to get to top 100 before sv came out due to burnout after getting to 101 and then falling

[twin edge]

It's job is to set up room and die

The 4 next turns belong to negative speed investment houndstomb or Kingambit

This gets you more options than winning the Sucker 50/50

[balmy monolith]

I went with sand setter due to sand rush houndstone

[gloomy hollow]

yeah but why prankster trick room?

[twin edge]

Priority

[gloomy hollow]

so it goes from -7 to -6?

[twin edge]

Oh did it have minus priority?

Didn't know that

[gloomy hollow]

trick room has incredibly bad priority

[balmy monolith]

Yes it has negative priority

[twin edge]

I've never used a TR team

Seemed fragile af

[balmy monolith]

And didnt want to sacrifice adaptability for swift swim

[twin edge]

Doesn't Legion have swift swim?

[balmy monolith]

Yes

That was what i was refering to

I wanted the adaptability so i went with sand rush houndstone instead of legion swift swim

[gloomy hollow]

tr is a lot more popular in doubles as a speed control thing, also can build around it as needed

in singles....yeah i can see why you'd never use it lol

[twin edge]

It's decent

Just gimmicky and fragile

[balmy monolith]

Speaking of gimmick team, i tried making a clawitzer terrain team but god there were some major holes in the builds

Was difficult to get past 1600 with it

Tried it with different terrains and comps, even tried some increadibly niche mons but it didnt really work

[gloomy hollow]

clawitzer's fun

[balmy monolith]

It is

[gloomy hollow]

i remember once back in gen 6 where i played it in some vgc tournament that was run (i think on dnf?) and took a pretty good vgc player to game 3 with it

[balmy monolith]

The gimmick was entirely with me trying to make terrain pulse work

[gloomy hollow]

that's about all i've done with it compeititvely, but i like the mon in general

[balmy monolith]

I was left with the problem of clawitzer either A. Not doing enough damage or B. Not surviving the hit properly, i could give it an item to fix one of the problems but the other would fall flat

[gloomy hollow]

terrain pulse is one of those moves i forgot existed

[balmy monolith]

It was something i wanted to try due to pulse move

[balmy monolith]

Any godzilla fans?

[raven sphinx]

You need friends to evolve the dolphin lmao

You need to fight another players dolphin while another player watches

[gloomy hollow]

is glaive rush dragon type or ice type?

[balmy monolith]

Ice

[gloomy hollow]

hm

are its bp and accuracy known?

[balmy monolith]

Nvm

Dragon

I thought was ice but its dragon

[gloomy hollow]

aight

[balmy monolith]

120 100% physical

[gloomy hollow]

second question still applies

5pp?

[balmy monolith]

5 pp makes you take double damage next turn and opponent attacks wont miss

in other words switch it out immediately

[gloomy hollow]

hm

[sour pulsar]

Does the penalties still apply if your opponent switches?

Or the if opposing mon gets knocked out

[gloomy hollow]

presumably, since i doubt they'd make it not apply if it kills the mon

[balmy monolith]

Probably

[gloomy hollow]

to be clear, that's double damage next turn, or double damage until the end of the next turn?

[balmy monolith]

Apparently the ability of the 4 sub legendaries is like dark aura

But they physically lower the base stat of the pokemon

[balmy monolith]

You will take double damage next turn specifically

[gloomy hollow]

aight

[uncut sleet]

I can’t wait till the anime makes a joke out of the fact that tinkaton kills corvi knights for sport

[gloomy hollow]

if glaive rush hits a fairy type, does the double damage still apply?

[ornate token]

with how much people are clinging onto Ash, maybe there won't be a new anime

[balmy monolith]

Im... unsure, but probably?

Also wait

This might be the first abilities to mess with the base stat of a pokemon

[uncut sleet]

Wait till the new protagonist, Cash appears

He buys his way to a championship

[plush frigate]

not fight each other, one person just need to watch

when you level up after defeating a mon in battle

[ornate token]

damn Pokemon and requiring me to interact with others

speaking of which

the Link Cable didn't return i assume?

[balmy frigate]

Damn Pokemon being anti game preservation

Raids in SwSh offline are literally harder

If raids in this are way harder offline, fuck that

[balmy monolith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/908673431011213342/1041095424133566524/Untitled.png

[balmy monolith]

Apparently you can catch it in raids anyway

[balmy monolith]

Unsure, items we are currently unsure about

This game has a lot of bugs

[balmy frigate]

Buggy game

[balmy monolith]

Lots of pokemon trying to eat others

https://drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/180Qp0wrGEwomjoU78vFMDJTEkI42Bmql?usp=sharing the entirety of the dex pics

[gloomy grail]

its the Law of the Wild

[plush frigate]

I get it

there is a new mark btw, alpha mark

[wet briar]

What does (-) = 3 M Q X X mean in all of those screenshots?

[twin edge]

pokemon gibberish

[wet briar]

Gotcha

[rustic raft]

https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1591576633164455936

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks)

Iron Jugulis: It resembles a certain Pokémon introduced in a paranormal magazine, described as the offspring of a Hydreigon that fell in love with a robot.

Twitter · Nov 12, 2022, 11:40 PM

[ebon path]

my brother won't stop texting me the words "iron jugulis" once every few hours

[rustic raft]

tell him it only exists because a hydreigon couldn't resist that robussy

[gloomy grail]

Fairies really did a number on him

[pearl hinge]

Wha-

[edgy garnet]

they didn't even say "fusion"

they said "offspring"
they said "fell in love"

[pearl hinge]

So future pokemons are just mating gone wrong

[plush frigate]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhWMWtQXoAE4n67?format=jpg&name=large

its so tiny

[raven sphinx]

Just err

Just half the surface of the sun in temperature

[plush frigate]

a tiny hot fish

[oblique lodge]

it definitinly has the damage output of 5400 degrees

with its ability

[pearl hinge]

What's it's ability again?

[oblique lodge]

-1 spdef aura

• its naturally high spatk + nastyplot

[plush frigate]

damn!

what stats does it have?

[pearl hinge]

55/80/80/135/120/100

[oblique lodge]

well we dontknow what the multplier is

im jsut guessing -1

is it x1.3? etc?

[spiral oasis]

good ability for doubles

spam lava plume in sun or something

[oblique lodge]

all the ruin abilities are great for doubles

buff/debuff the whole field

[spiral oasis]

ah it affects your teammate too

interesting

did you see chomp got spikes

[oblique lodge]

yeah, everyone got spikes

broken

[spiral oasis]

gastrodon too, very cool

hopefully it gets scorching sands to make up for scald

[oblique lodge]

me in a diff server

[spiral oasis]

yeah its seems pretty impactful

[plush frigate]

oh damn?!

[pearl hinge]

Lando getting taunt and nasty plot is funny too

[oblique lodge]

https://tiermaker.com/create/generation-9-pokemon-spoilers-13496

[gloomy hollow]

obligatory most of these are just at a glance, rankings are arbitrary, things may change over time, etc

[balmy monolith]

Do the forces of nature have a way to actually hit brambleghast?

The most i can think of is u-turn

[gloomy hollow]

which ones do you mean by forces of nature?

[ionic fjord]

take with a massive grain of salt

[spiral oasis]

Lot of orthworm haters

[oblique lodge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/997586655433216081/1041221618275459082/sd.png

design based

[sour pulsar]

Y'all putting clodsire on the wrong end of the tier list

[oblique lodge]

i should bump him up to good

[ionic fjord]

koraidon in good is a crime

[oblique lodge]

i like clodsire considerably more now that i realized hes a chocolate ecclair

[oblique lodge]

kommo big

[sour pulsar]

Also, charcadet above both evos

[oblique lodge]

[spiral oasis]

I like skeledirge, clodsire and iron hands

And that might be it

Cetitan and bellibolt also appealing

[oblique lodge]

i actually love palafin

whyd i rank him in only a

[balmy monolith]

Lando and gang

[gloomy hollow]

lando sludge wave can hit it neutrally, i guess

but that requires running sludge wave

otherwise, there's always tera blast, but that uses your terastalization

does tornadus get a decent flying move other than hurricane?

[oblique lodge]

it gets its new sig move

[balmy monolith]

Which is a wind move

[oblique lodge]

theyre all 95 bp

i think 100 acc?

with some secondary effect

[sour pulsar]

Lando's signature move has a 30% of burning iirc

[uncut sleet]

Anybody that doesn’t like Bellibolt is wrong

[remote compass]

Orthworm in A?

[uncut sleet]

What’s wrong with orthworm?

[remote compass]

He's just a metal worm with a goofy face

[balmy monolith]

He's actually a train

Its why he has segments and "windows"
Also it has arms

[deft oasis]

According to some people from smogon that tested it, it caps out at 3 buffs because it's balanced around VGC

[balmy monolith]

Catch these hands!

[balmy monolith]

Neat
Still good though

[ornate token]

that's still 200 BP so strong enough

[crystal iron]

Blech

[finite plover]

Lokix in B

[fallow reef]

Ahhhhhhhhh

it's every Sword of Justice at one...

[ornate token]

doesn't this debunk the Ho-Oh and the legendary beasts theory?

[crystal iron]

what theory is that

[ornate token]

iirc Ho-Oh revived and bestowed power to Vaporeon, Jolteon and Flareon and they turned into the Legendary Beasts

[crystal iron]

I think the main reason it doesn't debunk that stuff is STORY SPOILERS ||the Paradox mons aren't real?||

[ornate token]

Fair point

Altho it isn't explicitly stated that Paradox mons are Fake right?
And then the whole time machine fiasco.

[crystal iron]

I'm not sure on the details

[rustic raft]

oh that one was debunked years ago

[ionic fjord]

iirc generations depicts them as regular looking dogs that get turned into the beasts

obv take it with a grain of salt

which leans into what I’m pretty sure the original head writer of the anime said about regular animals existing but going extinct which is its own salt shaker

[ornate token]

in either case the idea that the Beasts are made from anything is under contention

altho i guess Paradox complicates things

[crystal iron]

is Pokerus not canon then

[rustic raft]

Bro what

[deft oasis]

Apparently the Chinese version has different dialogue in the finale and Khu had the Chinese version as source. The Chinese law apparently prohibits depictions of time travel, so the chinese version says the paradox are imaginary while all other versions just say they're pokemon from different time periods

[ornate token]

China is weird asf

[crystal iron]

I see

That is unusual

[deft oasis]

I just learned about this a couple of days ago when people were talking about the english finale not lining up with what Khu suggested

[ionic fjord]

FINALLT

some mons had their idles changed

[crystal iron]

I never wanted to imagine Hydreigon fucking a robot

Why have they done this

[ionic fjord]

Tropius, Staraptor, Eelektross, Honchkrow, Braviary, among others, seem to also fit into this going off their pc sprites

[ornate token]

how about a robot fucking Hydreigon

[crystal iron]

No, Hydreigon is a top

[rustic raft]

well technically, it only bans time travel involving chinese history

Like you can't have someone travel back in time to meet Kongming

but back to the future? a-ok

But my guess is maybe TPCi didn't wanna take chances

[ornate token]

it's always hilarious that a Japanese anime did time travel involving Kongming of all things

[ionic fjord]

Do we have encounter tables yet

[rustic raft]

the anime slaps too

[ionic fjord]

I wanna know where/when to get my nerds

[balmy monolith]

All my guys are real early 😄

Except iron moth

[uncut sleet]

In your dreams, that’s a power bottom if I’ve ever seen one

Btw from everything we’ve heard so far

Isn’t this exactly what people wanted? Sounds like it’s a more interesting story

Sounds as if the game is harder than swsh

PLA mechanics are fully implemented

Is this not actually every single thing everybody wanted aside from better graphics?

[ornate token]

the biggest contention i've seen surrounding SV is its Pokemon designs

[uncut sleet]

That’s fair tbh

Some of them look like neopets

[crystal iron]

My biggest issue with SV is just the execution of the paradox mons

[sour pulsar]

My biggest complaint is that the games don't come with a clodsire plushie

[ionic fjord]

SV have like the exact opposite problem of SWSH for me

where I really like the starter designs but couldn’t care less about most of the new mons

whereas the galar starters are lame but I really liked a lot of the other mons

[uncut sleet]

Damn really? I hate the sv starters besides fuecoco

[sour pulsar]

btw, are natu and skarmory in gen 9?

[uncut sleet]

Considering Corviknight is in, I doubt skarmory is in also

[sour pulsar]

gen 8 had both

[ionic fjord]

I’m pretty sure no

[uncut sleet]

[sour pulsar]

aw

what about honchcrow?

[ionic fjord]

Yes

[sour pulsar]

pog

[uncut sleet]

The best question to ask is

Best bug bro centiskorch in

[sour pulsar]

what an odd way of saying heracross

[uncut sleet]

[ionic fjord]

Pretty sure no

This is every Pokemon programmed into the game

some are home only, you can prob guess which

[uncut sleet]

Hmm this greatly affects the bug only run I wanted to do

[plush frigate]

charizard is an event mon

Kyogre

[uncut sleet]

Man I didn’t even notice that

Get kyogre tfo

We need to stop complaining about Gen 1 nostalgia and start bitching about Gen 3 nostalgia

At least nothing in Gen 1 is game breaking

[plush frigate]

OH

[rustic raft]

nice repost

[plush frigate]

oh you already posted it

[plush frigate]

wait so it's not like king of thorns ?

[fallow reef]

kill it with fire

that thing creeps me up

the other 3 are meh... but this one... it's just not right

[rustic raft]

https://vxtwitter.com/NickCarraGayyy/status/1590815052676096000?t=aqR12nXB_aUmBWxN2pjslg&s=19

[deft oasis]

Apparently Population Bomb is coded to always hit 10 times.

Probably a bug

[fallow reef]

ALWAYS!

[oblique lodge]

casually 300 bp move

[deft oasis]

Found a list of all potentially competitive changes in SV and it's honestly much more than I would have expected

• Hail is now Snowstorm and gives Ice Types a 50% defense boost • Ice types now have access to Ice Spinner, a 80 BP Ice move that removes terrain (Weavile and H-Lilligant gets this) • Wave Crash is basically Flare Blitz now and gives physical water types much more power • Protean is nerfed to only once per battle • Recovery moves have been nerfed to only 5 PP for the most part • Moves that a transferred Pokémon doesn’t learn normally from SV and learned from another game will be removed. As Scald, Toxic, Defog, Knock Off, or Mystical Fire are not TM’s or tutor moves in this game, no Pokémon will be able to learn these moves once in SV unless if the Pokémon naturally learns the moves through level-up or egg moves • Headlong Rush is Ground type Close Combat • Trailblaze is Grass type Flame Charge and a lot of Pokémon get this move (such as Zacian, Luxray, etc) • Grassy Glide is less power and, as of right now, not in the game (rip Rillaboom) • H-Arcanine has Rock Head and Head Smash • The storm moves of the Forces of Nature are 100 BP and 85% accuracy that also hit both opponents (VGC is going to be wacky) • Last Respects is a 50 BP Ghost move that gets 50 more BP each time a Pokémon on your team is fainted (Basculegion gets this while also having Swift Swim and Adaptability)

• Raging Fury is a Fire type Outrage • Medicham gets Trailblaze (has a way to boost speed now) • Groudon gets Body Press, Spikes, and Will-O-Wisp • Rayquaza gets U-Turn and Stealth Rock • Floatzel has Wave Crash • Haxorus has Iron Head • H-Braviary gets Tinted Lens and Esper Wing now boosts speed • Landorus of all things now has Nasty Plot and Taunt • Greninja gets Swords Dance, but Battle Bond has changed to where, after KO-ing a Pokémon, a +1 to Attack, Sp. Attack, and Speed is given instead of turning into Ash-Greninja • Avalugg has Icicle Crash finally • Both Decidueye gets Trailblaze (thus Decidueye has a way to boost speed), while H-Decidueye has Scrappy as an HA • Oricorio FINALLY has Quiver Dance • Cinderace has Swords Dance • Drednaw has Shell Smash • Grimmsnarl has Parting Shot • Both Zacian and Zamazenta’s abilities got nerfed to work once per battle instead of when sent out, while Zacian’s Attack is now 150 and Zamazenta’s defenses are now 140, but Zamazenta gets Body Press now • Eternatus has Fire Blast • Urshifu has Swords Dance but Wicked Blow dropped to 75 BP • Zarude has Swords Dance and Trailblaze • Regidraco has Earthquake and Earthpower • Spectrier has Draining Kiss • Ursaluna has Belly Drum, Bull Up, Swords Dance, Close Combat, Gunk Shot, and Drain Punch of all things. This thing’s going to be busted

• Sneasler has both Poison Touch and Unburden as abilities, Swords Dance, U-Turn, Gunk Shot, Acrobatics, Fake Out, Fire Punch, and Rock Slide. ALSO, Dire Claw has almost a 50% chance to inflict poison, along with a 16% chance for paralysis or sleep. Like Ursaluna, also busted • Meowscarada gets Protean along with good moves such as Flower Trick (70 BP Grass move that always crits), Knock Off, U-Turn, and Play Rough • Quaquaval gets Aqua Step (an 80 BP move that increases speed every time the move is used) along with Wave Crash, Close Combat, Acrobatics, and Moxie • The Paradox Mons are all mostly busted, especially Roaring Moon and Iron Valliant • Koraidon and Miraidon have 100 BP signature moves that deal extra damage on a super effective hit, along with abilities that set up sun or electric terrain and boost their best attacking stats while also boosting the best stats of Past and Future Paradox Pokemon

[rustic raft]

https://twitter.com/JeroLeaky/status/1591874754176516096

LeakyJero (@JeroLeaky)

Possibly ONE of the BEST EXP Grinding Spots before E4:

-Get Normal Encounter Power Lvl2
-Equip Lucky Egg (after 4th or 5th Gym!)
-Go to the North and faint Lv46-50 Chansey
(You can even use a low level Ghost Type with Curse + Hypnosis since Chansey has no attack to hit with!)

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[plush frigate]

nice 200 Base power move

oh right, it also gets technician

[uncut sleet]

The mouses are cringe pre-reproduction

[plush frigate]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fhd2mNDXoAIscOd?format=png&name=900x900

exclusives minus paradoxes

its funny how ttar and hydreigon are scarlet exclusive, but iron thorns and iron jugulis is violet

same with salamence and it's paradox

[crystal iron]

Ancient Misdreavus, and Mismagius also

[plush frigate]

TRUE

[gloomy hollow]

potentially a conscious decision

[crystal iron]

Hydreigon was banned from Violet for fucking a robot

Presumably so was TTar

[oblique lodge]

horny for robot bonk

[rustic raft]

don't forget

violet donphan

was sent by aliens

to invade earth

[gloomy hollow]

did anyone actually confirm whether tinkerton gets that atk boosting item?

[plush frigate]

no such item

all the new held items

[gloomy hollow]

aight

is booster energy consumable?

[crystal iron]

https://twitter.com/soulsilverart/status/1591847597819695109

SoulSilverArt(COVERING SV LEAKS) (@soulsilverart)

🤣the final best fake leak of this game just happened congrats to @prix_scarlet for trolling us into believing there were shiny eggs.Turns out they just put their picnic on top of a Tera raid Sliggoo👏🏻😂 #svleaks @aDrive_tK @HDvee @PhillyBeatzU @RuffledRowlit @AustinJohnPlays

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Twitter · Nov 13, 2022, 5:36 PM

Shiny Eggs fake btw

[spiral oasis]

clear amulet seems quite good

[oblique lodge]

yes one time consume

[twin edge]

Yes

Plain rice sushi

[rustic raft]

LEGENDS PLATE

[ebon path]

what does it do?

[rustic raft]

Effect
When used on Arceus, the Legend Plate changes it to the Normal type, like the Blank Plate.

In battle, Arceus gains the ability to change type when using Judgment, based on the selected opponent's type. While selecting a move, Judgment displays the type that it will become against the selected opponent, if used that turn. This is similar to Unown's signature move Hidden Power.

Judgment will become a type that is super effective against the target, prioritizing any double weaknesses of dual-type targets.
If multiple types are equally effective, Judgment will change to a type that best resists the target's primary type, prioritizing immunities, regardless of what the target's secondary type may be.
For Palkia, since its primary type is Water, Judgment will always become Dragon-type. Although Fairy is immune to Palkia's secondary Dragon-type, it does not resist Water.
For Giratina, since its primary type is Ghost, Judgment will always become Dark-type. Although Fairy is immune to Giratina's secondary Dragon-type, it does not resist Ghost.
If multiple types are still equally valid, Judgment will change to the type that best resists the target's secondary type, if any.
If multiple types are still equally valid, then one of them will be selected at random.
This calculation is done on each turn, so if there are multiple valid types, Judgment's type may vary between them each turn.

it's from PLA

[ebon path]

ah i see

[raven sphinx]

sees the gen 8 mons exclusive to violet

...they know sword and shield are on the switch right

[fallow reef]

tbh still mad it didn't get some kinda from change

[gloomy hollow]

apparently mirror herb is also used to pass egg moves

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/scarlet-violet-leaks-thread-data-mechanics.3709515/page-286#post-9395147

egg groups apparently don't matter for purposes of this mechanic

presumably traditional egg move passing still works

[balmy monolith]

For some reason 9/10 rimes I hear someone got wiped in sv it ends up being iono

[gloomy hollow]

is it just people being bad or is she actually somewhat difficult?

[balmy monolith]

Heard she is somewhat tricky but overall not difficult

According to the two people in the smogon discord who lost to her

That said, it likely means in nuzlocke runs she might end up a run killer

[sour pulsar]

Were people just giving her bellibolt free charges?

[balmy monolith]

No
Apparently she has some coverage for ground types

And mismagius charge beam hax

[sour pulsar]

I see

[oblique lodge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/497269272993857537/1041522188563529798/SPOILER_BAB3A142-15FF-45F9-B939-062D258B6EBF.jpg

[balmy monolith]

Oh wow
Defog doesnt work again gholdengo

So does rapid spin due to being a ghost

[oblique lodge]

niether does new poison rapid spin

[balmy monolith]

The only one that will work is tidy up

[oblique lodge]

and the only tidy up user loses by typing

[balmy monolith]

Yup

[balmy monolith]

Gholdengo also blocks SR lol

Basically its like magic bounce with the bouncing part

Needs to target gholdengo though

[sour pulsar]

What's a gholdendo?

[twin edge]

Apple Jacks

[oblique lodge]

New steel ghost with recovery and 133 spa

His ability is basically

Prankster vs dark types

Towards him

[sour pulsar]

Interesting

[oblique lodge]

He's gonna be busted

Busted ability, busted typing, good stats, recovery

[sour pulsar]

I see

On another note

Violet just "dropped"

So i can play the version i actually want now

[twin edge]

unfortunately my "nintendo switch" is shit

[sour pulsar]

Same as me, but hey, i'm able to enjoy pla even if it's on constant 4 fps

[oblique lodge]

Basically

Gholendugo is ghost type regional magearna

Gets nasty plot, trick, etc etc too

[swift pumice]

im actually pretty excited by the changes done so far

rebalances are interesting in that they are absolutely destroying stall

[oblique lodge]

Destroy stall > actually fix the timer

[swift pumice]

wont have timer issues if we just delete stall

[sour pulsar]

Ngl

Kinda wondering wether or not i should keep playing arceus or start playing violet

[oblique lodge]

You can wait a week

And start playing when everyone else does

[sour pulsar]

Yea fair enough

[balmy monolith]

What? His ability prevents status moves

[oblique lodge]

Not just status conditions

All "status" moves

Like defog, etc

[balmy monolith]

Not haze though

Since haze doesnt target

Similarly doesnt work vs tidy up cause it self targets

[bleak gazelle]

i already solved gen 9 ou

when they put it up on showdown im cookin

[wet briar]

wake me up when they add clefable

[bleak gazelle]

clefable with 8 pp soft

[wet briar]

I'm on wish tect now

[bleak gazelle]

EVEN WORSE

u guys know what the guu is

cyclizrad

with the sub move

shed tail or w/e

that shit is turbo broken

godly pivot

[uncut sleet]

Meta is going to massively change for double and singles

(At least till groudon and kyogre become comp legal again)

[oblique lodge]

cyclizard spammers when i go pult on rapid spin and click inflitrator draco

[oblique lodge]

im very excited to see just how broken torkoal gets

in vgc

[uncut sleet]

I’m making iron hands work, idc how much I have to build my team around him

[oblique lodge]

but actually, the terrain/weather wars will be crazy

and so will the combinations with the paradox

• tera

[sour pulsar]

So uhh

[oblique lodge]

unsure how skillfull tera will be in vgc

[sour pulsar]

Gen 5 OU 2 who's up?

[oblique lodge]

unironically dynamax might be more skillfull than tera

but we'll see

[sour pulsar]

Teraboost is literally just gems

[oblique lodge]

gems are broken??

[uncut sleet]

My early theorycrafting has led me to believe defensive tera will be better in vgc

[sour pulsar]

And tera is not?

[uncut sleet]

But we’ll see

[sour pulsar]

Like, only thing holding tera back vs gems is the fact that you can't tera 4 times in a match

[uncut sleet]

Steel tera on a Pokémon with thick fat so far seems to be the most broken defensive combo

[sour pulsar]

Ngl

I honestly didn't think gf had the balls to do even half of the balance changes they did this gen

[uncut sleet]

It’s super refreshing isn’t it?

[sour pulsar]

Honestly, yea?

[uncut sleet]

Feels like the most exciting Pokémon game I can remember

[sour pulsar]

Altho

I'll miss playing stall

It gave me an excuse to use quag

[oblique lodge]

its very exciting

once they ban all the brokens

i will spam the shit out of flutter mane though

before it goes

[uncut sleet]

We’ll see what happens, idt stall will be dead in doubles, in singles though that shit is mega dead though

[oblique lodge]

isnt stall inherently always dead in doubles

im sure itl eventually find a way in singles

but idk

alot of the new movesets are so stall killer

spikes on everyone, taunt, trick, etc

so many stall killers

even without the nerfs

[uncut sleet]

I’m very interested to see what the ice buffs mean for this meta tbh

That move is probably the best move in the game

[oblique lodge]

move?

[uncut sleet]

Assuming weather wars

[oblique lodge]

oh the pivot + snow

but only slowtwins get it iirc

so pretty limited

[uncut sleet]

I meant the terrain cleared

That also has 80 bp for some reason

Kinda kills electric terrain strats imo

[oblique lodge]

oh

ice spinner

its okay

kinda mid

everything gets it though

[uncut sleet]

How many drizzle Pokémon do we have confirmed so far?

[sour pulsar]

peli : )

[uncut sleet]

Eh peli

What about good boy toed?

High key, peli is unplayable this gen

Unless you’re strictly vsing sun teams

Everything this gen feels like it has either ghost, steel or electric thrown into their typing

[sour pulsar]

also

since the 1.0.1 update got leaked now

i can actually run the game

[balmy monolith]

I mean, you can still use them as a rain setter

[balmy monolith]

It wouldnt be so broken if theu didnt give it regenerator

[bleak gazelle]

thats exactly why

also stalls prob ass with 8 pp recover

[balmy monolith]

Actually it's boost is less than gems

[balmy monolith]

Honestly that isnt too much a problem
You often dont get into pp stalling strats unless fighting other stall

however the large amount of HO mons might screw over stall

[bleak gazelle]

nah vs balance its so hard to win

16 pp matters because 16 pp offensive moves that 3hko can never beat you in the long term

and now they can

[balmy monolith]

(That said pawmot, as good as he is in HO, is even better in stall cause leppa berry works and you can to rezz the mon your opponent had the most trouble with)

[bleak gazelle]

*never beat you without help from hazards etc

stalling out recovers is very feasible

[sinful sapphire]

Dex entry for a Paradox mon

[bleak gazelle]

avoiding the 2hko threshold is how stall teams wear out offensive teams, even if it never gets to the point of actually pp stalling

because the offensive player knows that it's an inevitability so they play aggressive and it goes one way or another

but 8 pp is like massive

[sinful sapphire]

||Mega referenced in the year of our lord 2022||

[balmy monolith]

Anyway

V tera boost
Tests also show tera boost is only 2x

[bleak gazelle]

also wait isnt sun like insane

with the new ability

the fuckin

idk what its called

[balmy monolith]

Protosynthesis

[bleak gazelle]

yeah

that

theres no way that shit isnt insane

[balmy monolith]

Electric terrain will also be good but more counterable due to the availability of ice spinner

[bleak gazelle]

well pincurchin vs torkoal

[balmy monolith]

And also cause the electric terrain setter is pincurchin lol

[bleak gazelle]

buti guess it depends ont he abusers

[balmy monolith]

Tbf pincurchin isnt that bad a setter

[oblique lodge]

people often say

"you never clicked more than 8 recovers anyways"

which may be true most of the time

but now that the opponent knows theres only 8

they can so easily go for the pp stall

and force through all 8 in the same scenario where they wouldve never done that last gen

[swift pumice]

pressure also gets even better against stall

like

just down to 4 recovers

thats massive

[crystal iron]

Simply run 2 or 3 recovery moves

[oblique lodge]

pressure doesnt interact with recovery moves

but yeah

since theyre self targeting

[rustic raft]

the megamence

[oblique lodge]

oh my god

mega hasnt been taken behind the pokemon company shed?

[balmy monolith]

@swift pumice doesnt work recovery is self targetting and the only self targeting moves that pressure drops is snatch/imprison

[swift pumice]

is it really just snatch/imprison? i thought it worked for all self-targeting moves since gen 5

[balmy monolith]

Nope just snatch and imprison

[balmy monolith]

Also
Population bomb might actually work like triple axel
We learnt that it wasnt that it was always hitting 10 but it was hitting 10 a lot

If its like triple axel with it's 90% accuracy, you have roughly (rounded up) a 35% chance of hitting all 10 times

Which isnt exactly hard to get

Man
Im so used to kaphotics and the gang giving us like the full dump on whats in the game and how everything works in detail that the chaos of trying to figure everything out is so weird

[wet briar]

this riddle stuff is so trashy

[wet briar]

mood

[wet briar]

(sorry if this sounds harsh but it had to be said)

the gen itself is probably fine

[rustic raft]

nah man

people hate the riddle stuff vocally lmao

[wet briar]

Oh nice

idk some people here are really into it

[rustic raft]

Especially because Khu is just

[wet briar]

which makes me question things

[rustic raft]

a weird manchild

[wet briar]

or is it because there's no other source of info but him

[rustic raft]

No other source for a LONG TIME

[wet briar]

[gloomy hollow]

i still need to decide what mons i'm gonna use in my run

[oblique lodge]

this is confirmed, and 90% with wide lens, which is kinda ridic

and equally funny when it kills itself into rocky helmet

honesstly just a really funny mon all around

[ionic fjord]

meowscarada's signature goes hard

what base power is it overall counting crit again

is it just 70 * 1.5

[oblique lodge]

grassy wicked blow

just 105 i think

[finite plover]

https://youtu.be/IgWy3cla-bw

NOW he says all of them

Maybe, I haven’t check

[plush frigate]

about shiny odds

Base shiny rate is still 1/4096

[uncut sleet]

Yeah, but mass outbreaks being back makes that considerably less

[plush frigate]

nobody knows why people are finding tons of shinies in this game (without outbreaks) , the odds apparently werent changed. People are just getting lucky

[uncut sleet]

Who knows

Might be worth not applying the day 1 patch to see if it really is happening more often

[balmy monolith]

Oh that is easy

Its cause of overworld spawning

Think of it like this
Normally a person would only go into so many wild battles right?
Well with overworld spawning that number is raised like tenfold

So cause people are "encountering" more mons than normal they are finding more shinies than normal

This isnt founting mass outbreaks ofc

Its why PLA shinies were also more common than normal

But its exacerbated by the fact that SV is one open giant area whereas PLA was multiple big areas

[plush frigate]

true

btw people online can steal your shinies

if you do co-op with them

[uncut sleet]

My goal is to into summer’s game and steal their shiny whooper

And then release it because it’s a fugly Pokémon

[twin edge]

wonder if Protect Leftovers is going to return to competitive

[ornate token]

If anything, i think Substitute's gonna become a lot more prominent

between scouting for Tera typing without downright losing against setup moves, and things like Kingambit

[plush frigate]

notes to not ask you for help evolving palafin

[balmy monolith]

im thinking of testing that on shed tail orthworm

[twin edge]

that thing gets shed tail

wild

[uncut sleet]

Orthworm is best boy

Why wouldn’t it be awesome

[plush frigate]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhiOEaTWQAIwp5v?format=jpg&name=large

Hello Kurt Balls

[uncut sleet]

Alright you guys ready for my team?

Playthrough team ofc, not comp team

Rabsca
Orthworm
Bellibolt
Klawf
Galarian Slowbro (if available early enough, if not Overqwil or Grafaiai)
Flamigo

Oh shit, flamigo gets scrappy

115 attack, 90 speed okayish bulk

Looks like a scarf Pokémon to me

[ornate token]

115 is a bit weak for a Scarfer isn't it

[plush frigate]

rabsca the psychic beetle right?

orthworm does cover your weakness to ground 🤔

same with flamigo

[crystal iron]

Do you think Iron Jugulis was inspired by DragonsFuckingCars

[pearl hinge]

[uncut sleet]

Idk but iron jugulus sounds like a pornstars name, if you know I watched stuff like that idk

[crystal iron]

A pelican vore Pokémon manifested, so it's not without precedent

Jugulis means throat, Iron Throat isn't as cool

[uncut sleet]

In before day 1 patch makes the name Iron Throat

[plush frigate]

so about the shiny odds

better odds??? or they rounding down

seems to be just better odds

[uncut sleet]

Better odds def

No way they would round down

[remote compass]

Lmao apparently Pawmot is so broken they're testing leppa berry with it

[swift pumice]

gliscor is kind again

poison heal + protect roost may as well be unkillable

[remote compass]

Pawmot is totally going to AG by the end of the month, yeah?

Well probably December, but Pawmot is getting banished soon

[ionic fjord]

They’ll just ban the move

[remote compass]

Pawmot is solid alone tho too

He'll probably be fine without it

[ionic fjord]

Yea so even more reason to just ban the move

[remote compass]

But the move is the issue, yeah

Now the question is is he gonna be a VGC issue

[ionic fjord]

There’s like

10 other vgc issues

[remote compass]

True

[oblique lodge]

inherently everything is much more manageable in vgc

[uncut sleet]

Yeah, I don't really consider Revival Blessing a VGC issue

[ionic fjord]

I’m more worried about grimmsnarl

with fucking parting shot

[remote compass]

Wait grimmsnarl got parting shot???

Wtf

[uncut sleet]

yes

[remote compass]

Good balance gamefreak

[ionic fjord]

Torkoal stocks also going to the moon (again)

[remote compass]

Arceus better not be VGC legal tbh

[ionic fjord]

I like how Torkoal, Pelipper and Tyranitar are gonna be in every region now

[remote compass]

The legends plate being in the game is NUTS

[uncut sleet]

i doubt legends plate/arceus sees play tbh. The VGC ruleset will determine a lot going forward

[remote compass]

The legends plate is fucking insane outside of pve

[oblique lodge]

i heard legends plate makes no diff in actual pvp but idk

[swift pumice]

pawmot is not gonna be ag

[balmy monolith]

In vgc TR teams might use rabsca over pawmot

[remote compass]

Eviolite?

[balmy monolith]

What of eviolite?

[brave igloo]

He’s asking what is the main benefit to rabsca

Also for VGC TR is it too much of a bulk problem for Farigiraf as TR setter?

Advantage would mainly be Armor Tail, especially since Fake Out can’t buffer turns or block the setup

[balmy monolith]

Oh the big thing is not only does rabsca himself have tr and good coverage but he also has access to telepathy and revival blessing

Since we were bring up revival blessing, rabsca ends up being the better of the two very specifically under TR

Whats more TR as a playstyle tends to have a few key mons you attempt to keep alive and support abd revival blessing helps towards that sort of strat

Why specifically in vgc is less to do with vgc and more to do with the fact TR is just better in doubles

[uncut sleet]

Perfect explanation

But yeah w e haven’t talked enough about some neat TR tricks that we get this gen

[sour pulsar]

Wait

This gen has no good slush rush abusers

Fuck

[uncut sleet]

Yet

Could change in dlc

[sour pulsar]

I hope so

I want to test the new hail pivot move with arctozolt

[uncut sleet]

Wait you just reminded me

[oblique lodge]

doesnt cetitan get slush rush

[uncut sleet]

Yep

But why would you use that over thick fat + steel tera

Cetitan has potential for that sole reason, especially if they get ice spinner

[oblique lodge]

belly drum + slush rush + snow defense boost funnies

[uncut sleet]

Oh right it gets belly drum also

Hmm

I wonder if it will get snow warning as an HA

What’s cetitan’s offensive stats/speed like?

[rustic raft]

113 ATK and 73 SPD

[gloomy hollow]

sheer force, apparently

and yes, it seems it gets ice spinner

[uncut sleet]

Ice spinner is physical yeah?

Ig it doesn’t really matter

Hmm will be interesting to see which thick fat steel tera Pokémon ends up being the best

Rn it’s extremely hard to deny appletun that title, but we have to wait and see what cetitan’s movepool ends up being

[oblique lodge]

well you need a mon

thats otherwise good on its base form

because you dont want forced into narrow lines of play

bringing a mon thats only good with tera

more modes and such, yknow

[uncut sleet]

Well the thing with tun is, it resists it’s only steel tera weakness in base form (ground), takes neutral from fire, but gets absolutely fucked by ice, so this is where I said mind games will be important. Setting up leech seed, apple acid, you can tera into recover, heavy slam for stab

There’s reasons as to why appletun is being talked about

[oblique lodge]

yeh appletun looks solid if you get it all going

spamming leech

[uncut sleet]

Also For what it’s worth, 4x resist to electric in base form

It should in theory wall miraidon

[spiral oasis]

Isn't miraidon also a dragon

[uncut sleet]

Yeah, but you going to blind draco meteor into what is most likely a steel type tera appletun?

[spiral oasis]

Being able to Terra into a type that resists a STAB doesn't mean you wall a mon

By that logic every mon walls every mon

[uncut sleet]

See above, there’s other reasons appletun would wall it. Has a lot to do with how good thick fat + steel type tera does, tun’s movepool just compliments that combo even more

[balmy monolith]

Cetitan it right there which is arguably the best slush rush user weve gotten not counting the gen 8 fossils

[sour pulsar]

He slow tho >:[

[gloomy hollow]

73 speed with slush rush isn't that slow

[balmy monolith]

^

[balmy monolith]

Arxtozolt, probably the best slush rusher we ever got, enough so to make hail at least somewhat viable in gen 8 (alongside aurora veil)
Has a base speed of 55

If arctozolt can pull it off, cetitan can too

[rustic raft]

https://twitter.com/palkiaorigin/status/1592313670331437056?t=SVeVM9pnqeTW87qVqn95mQ&s=19

PearlEnthusiast (COVERING SV LEAKS) (@palkiaorigin)

2 new secret Orange/Purple items found in the code.

DLC?

Let's see!

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Twitter · Nov 15, 2022, 12:28 AM

[crystal iron]

I kinda wish the Paradox Pokémon had unique abilities

Rather than just Protosynthesis

[uncut sleet]

Yeah that's the main disappointing thing to me. They each should have had a unique abillity

like Great Tusk deserved Sand Stream

[rustic raft]

https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1592554353579085825?t=xxWHsbmfVfaPAo313Ry3Vg&s=19

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks)

Magikarp and Gyarados were originally planned to have Convergent Species instead of Tentacool and Tentacruel.

In fact the codename of Toedscruel still is OKAGYARADOSU, they didn't even bother to change it.

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Twitter · Nov 15, 2022, 4:25 PM

[ebon path]

interesting

i wonder if convergent gyarados would have been like the alpha design for it where it was a leech instead of a sea serpent

[crystal iron]

Are they claiming the convergent species are the first convergent evos in Pokémon

[rustic raft]

No

But they are the ones where it's super up front

[crystal iron]

The more interesting ones are the electric rodents

[rustic raft]

I mean they are probably related

[uncut sleet]

oh i forgot toadscruel was a thing, adding them to my team def

[crystal iron]

Plusle and Minun I can see as related to Pikachu

Emolga and Pachirisu might be related

[rustic raft]

Dedenne is 100% related

[crystal iron]

I will accept this based on cheek colour alone

[rustic raft]

Here is a take tho

The ralts line

Is a convergent species unrelated to any of the humanoids

Just developed a similar bodyplan

[crystal iron]

Why's that

[rustic raft]

Different egg group from all the humanoids

Hinting they're not really related

Though they may be more supernatural leaning

[crystal iron]

I see

[fallow reef]

NOOOO this is the worst time line...

give me sea snake...

[gloomy grail]

https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1592594592754733056

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks)

vroom vroom

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Twitter · Nov 15, 2022, 7:05 PM

[oblique lodge]

bro just standup

[crystal iron]

Bro is commited to the deep squat and I respect it

[uncut sleet]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonScarletViolet/comments/yvw0t9/anyone_else_not_using_a_starter_this_time_around/

that's me

[oblique lodge]

that guy should just not evolve his kitty then

level 80 stage 1

[sour pulsar]

Ngl

Thinking of doing a bug only run

Should be interesting with terastalization

[uncut sleet]

I thought about bug only

but orthworm isn't a bug

so i stopped thinking about it

This is pretty cool https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonScarletViolet/comments/yvoy9w/views_from_paldeas_highest_point/

[oblique lodge]

you can fly?

[crystal iron]

glide, but ye

[plush frigate]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhoVBXvWAAEjY9E?format=jpg&name=medium

who here knows how to solve puzzles

[sour pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/professor-layton-layton-drinking-tea-tea-cup-gif-11712124

[rustic raft]

https://twitter.com/CentroLeaks/status/1592644519979544577?t=NMSltgECwNODU1ztkMWuEQ&s=19

Centro LEAKS (@CentroLeaks)

BIG NEWS:

A name of a potential DLC Pokémon has leaked. UNERUMINAMO ウネルミナモ.

This was registered by Nintendo in Japan along the rest of the Gen 9 Pokémon.

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Twitter · Nov 15, 2022, 10:23 PM

[gloomy hollow]

https://i.imgur.com/dOO7KLC.png

[oblique lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/packwatch-ripbozo-pitalonzo-alex-lafreniere-alex-iafreniere-gif-18890780

(I don't know the drama around him but I saw someone else post this)

[sour pulsar]

Btw

Is yanmega in the game?

[wet briar]

Did khu also eat it

or just centro?

[rustic raft]

Centro is just some group of dudes compiling all the leaks. The drama is that Khu is a bitch who gets mad at him reposting his info.

Also annoying watermarks and in previous gens not a super trustworthy source

[rustic raft]

They kept Khu 🙃

So a dude who reposts the leaks gets banned, but the actual leaker remains

[wet briar]

I'm deceased

[fallow reef]

Twitter be like...

tbh i would have liked if Khu got also banned. the dude just says the most weird shit ever

[oblique lodge]

which one was WAIFU TIME!

[fallow reef]

my brain still can't get over how he described the hammer mon ...

literally just a cute ragdoll with a hammer
Khu: yes! Hardcore Waifu mon...

[rustic raft]

Khu called everything feminine a waifu

Including children

And paradox gallade

[fallow reef]

[balmy monolith]

For those who wonder how insane snow is giving +1 def

0 Atk Victini V-create vs. +1 252 HP / 0 Def Abomasnow with an ally's Aurora Veil: 326-386 (84.8 - 100.5%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

252 Atk Victini V-create vs. +1 252 HP / 200 Def Abomasnow with an ally's Aurora Veil: 326-386 (84.8 - 100.5%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

[gloomy hollow]

why are both of those the same calc

one has neutral no investment victini, the other with max investment neutral on a bulkier abomasnow, with the same result?

[balmy monolith]

Thats very simply cause youll end up with the same calc with those exact investments

[gloomy hollow]

ye, just found it funny

came upon another calc earlier where a ninetales survives life orb kartana smart strike or something

snow is fun

[balmy monolith]

Yup lmao

[gloomy hollow]

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/spoilers-scarlet-violet-ou-discussion.3710554/post-9398648

some of these could be alright

they say they're struggling with a decent iron treads set tho

[silver tendon]

What’s the gimmick@with the dolphin because I saw earlier one of its stats is like crazy as hell

Figured there was a trade off I wasn’t seeing

I also@know@basculin’s evo has a new move that’s pretty good. Something about it gaining 50 bp for every koed poke

[deft oasis]

It needs to switch out and then back in to use it in it's powered up form