#Yugioh Lore Discussion

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dry lodge
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WL says that the cycle of creation and destruction continued in the heavens, which will check out since, unlike Sophia or Tierra, Sombre and Kerykeion didn't stay bound to the planet through things such as the Mist Valley Seal or the Sacred Tree

primal spire
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We dont know what happened to Sombre and Kerykeion

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There is no implication they went to space, just that they vanished

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The closest we have is that they become the new seeds of life on earth

dry lodge
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We don't know what happened to them now, yes, but the point is we know that previously they weren't bound to the earth

primal spire
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No we dont?

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The closest we get is

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  • The Word for World Is TSEROF -
    dead and alive swear annihilation of the terra
    they shall cut the NEMESIS and shall become the
    seed of the new terra
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(Dead and Alive are Kerykeion and Sombre respectively)

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Hence suggesting they just become part of the world

dry lodge
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After defeating the "Planetforger", "Sombre" and "Kerykeion" bade farewell to those who remained. I don't know where they headed, but the fragments of the power of the "Planetforger" residing within them probably led them to watch over the Surface World somewhere out there.

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Yugipedia - Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki

Note: This article is an unofficial English translation of the official Japanese Master Guide 4 card storylines. The following information is presented in a format closely mimicking that of the Master Guide 4. The original linguistic conventions have been edited for coherence, but all meanings have been preserved as best as possible.

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Sacred Serpent's Wake

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They ascended to watch over

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(And came back when Diamond/Cairngorgon started fucking shit up again)

primal spire
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Ascended is metaphorical here not literal

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It lines up with them becoming the seeds of the new world

viral orbit
jade iron
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Thank you, Lady Gaga for the Melodious support 🙏

hushed dune
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Melodious finally relevant?

jade iron
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I'd be surprised

dry lodge
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I wonder if Kerykeion actually loses the power of destruction after separation from Cairngorgon

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He no longer has the orb of destruction with him, which makes sense, if it ends up going to Tierra

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And would also potentially set up Sombre deciding to seal the power of Destruction in the World Legacy core

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This form has to happen at some point during the Tierra story, since he's fused with two tellarknights

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With the gathering of "Tellarknight Ptolemaeus", "Nekroz of Sophia", "Dragunity Divine Lance", and "Evilswarm Kerykeion" inside of "El Shaddoll Anoyatyllis" in one place, the powers of the "Goddess of Rebirth", the power of 'creation' and 'destruction', and the 10 'Cores' were assembled. The aura pulsating from this gathering became the key to starting up the 'sefiroth' system, the counterpart to the 'qliphoth' system, from within the "Naturia Sacred Tree".

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Zefranaga/Kerykeion's escape from Anoyatyllis seems to replace the orb of destruction with the purple pyroxene

jade iron
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Long legs Kerykeion jumpscare

dry lodge
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Hidden within the remains of "El Shaddoll Anoyatyllis", was "Infernoid Decatron", the head of "Infernoid Devyaty", still active and functional. Using the power of the 'Cores' within its 10 vacuum tubes, "Decatron" managed to access the 'qliphoth' system within the "Sacred Tree" and awakened the true body of "Tierra, Source of Destruction". Revived as "Infernoid Tierra", it set out to do what "Sophia" once did – to wipe out all the life born from the 'sefiroth' system.

To fully revive into its divine form, "Infernoid Tierra" still needed the power of 'creation' that once belonged to "Sophia". To solve this problem, "Tierra" planned to revive "Gem-Knight Lapis", who had been sleeping inside "El Shaddoll Construct" – as she is the mirror image of "Tellarknight Ptolemaeus", including her power of 'creation' – and absorb the power this way.

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Sounds like when Kerykeion was pulled out of Anoyatyllis by the Zefra system Anoyatyllis kept the power of destruction

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Which then went to Infernoid Decatron, and was able to pass it to Infernoid Tierra, who then only needed the power of creation from Lapis

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The one who stood to face "Tierra, Source of Destruction" was the protector of the "Naturia Sacred Tree", "Zefraath". The scale of their battle shook the entire planet, and lasted for one thousand days and one thousand nights. At the dawn of the 1000th day, the forms of "Tierra" and "Zefraath" were nowhere to be seen. The only things left were the charred remains of the "Sacred Tree", and two "Gem-Knights".

The "War" which shook the heavens and the earth had finally come to an end. With the vanquishment of "Tierra, Source of Destruction", those imprisoned in the vacuum tubes of the "Infernoid" remains were freed. "Ritual Beast Tamer Elder", upon seeing the return of "Gusto Falco", sobbed uncontrollably, as he did in his youth as "Kamui, Hope of Gusto". The other veterans of the previous great war, having lived on for decades without ever expecting to see their old friends again in this lifetime, reunited with comrades of their own.

With the "Naturia Sacred Tree" out of action, the surface lives had lost their god. While many were at a loss about what to do, "Crystal" saw light emanating from the "Sacred Tree", thought to be completely inactive. With their friends and comrades watching over them, "Crystal" disappeared into the light along with "Lapis". As the dead and as "Shaddolls", they have wandered the world, but they have finally reached their resting place. However, "Crystal" knows that his past friends and comrades are waiting just beyond that light. The future that they should head towards, that is a future in which life and death no longer endlessly repeat by the control of the "Sacred Tree". It is a world in which those living on the earth are promised tranquility, freed from the shackles of gods. To seek out that world, to create that promised land, he, just as those who were left behind by that light once did, embarks on a journey, to an unknown horizon.

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I almost wonder if Lapis inherited that power then thinkdoubt

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If so, it'd probably end up just shared between her and Sombre, since Sombre having the creation crystal gave Lapis that power too

hushed dune
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They really should make a Videogame or Anime about the lore of the Cards at some point
(Sky Striker was a good start I guess but it is it's own little world)

jade iron
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A Duel Terminal anime would go hard

hushed dune
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Then we could see Worms being a actual threat atleast and Alleyes of Justice being competent

pearl obsidian
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The question is where do they start?

glass blaze
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Just learned something dumb

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Duel Terminal lore started with the Rise of Destiny set

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Cause this exists

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[Roc from the Valley of Haze]

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glass blaze
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And then we had this

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[Mist Valley Baby Roc]

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glass blaze
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It’s actually flying alongside Roc from the Valley of Haze, too!

hushed dune
silver harbor
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tbf it came out in like
several years before duel terminal

dry lodge
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Just noticed Sophia's Creation/Destruction orbs look different from Tierra's

viral orbit
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The Four Worlds (Hebrew: עולמות ʿOlamot, singular: ʿOlam עולם), sometimes counted with a prior stage to make Five Worlds, are the comprehensive categories of spiritual realms in Kabbalah in the descending chain of Existence.
The concept of "Worlds" denotes the emanation of creative lifeforce from the Ein Sof Divine Infinite, through progressive,...

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visas...

hushed dune
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Hm

primal spire
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Visas has 7 worlds though

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And the 4 we've seen included the light world of calarium

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Were lacking air/wind and have an unneeded light

viral orbit
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i don't think the 6 world Theory holds up

primal spire
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I mean its not really a theory

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The names literally show that there are that many worlds

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Paraisos is six and Calarium 5

glacial dune
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I thought it was already accepted that the Visas worlds were based on the realms of reincarnation in Hinduism.

viral orbit
halcyon crane
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I know

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I just associate NS and Aleister as one

lean surge
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Magistus LORE is goated, and one of the best LOREs for the manga to get into.

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Hopefully, it doesn't fall into the same trapping as the Striker arc did, with asinine amounts of bloat in terms of chars and plot, as well as, not fitting in with the actual cards storyline.

viral orbit
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Hopefully, it doesn't fall into the same trapping as the Striker arc did, with asinine amounts of bloat in terms of chars and plot, as well as, not fitting in with the actual cards storyline.
likely will

lean surge
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Only other gripe I have is Aleister is the one dude of the 4, I care the least about finding more info on, since it's prob just some variant of I wanted power/knowledge, so I made a deal with whatever creature or some shit.

viral orbit
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they gotta have shit promos and imports in PP

lean surge
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TRUE.

viral orbit
lean surge
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On that note, having the scope expanded to general Magician stuff, basically Magistus and the related four archetypes ismuch better than being Stuck with giving smthg like Striker 12 cards.

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Nah, Endy the goat protag.

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My king the animal abuser tyrant fr fr

viral orbit
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Endy feels like a Rival

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Magical Kaiba

lean surge
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We even have a love interest in Artemis.

viral orbit
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heck he even has his [white girl kisara clone]

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lean surge
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Literally just do a Hades world style plot with the two.

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Ooh, on that note.

viral orbit
lean surge
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Can't wait for AleisterXVerre simps to crash when they barely interact in the manga.

viral orbit
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I just hope i don't go to deep into Sex Magic...

lean surge
viral orbit
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that's what the real Aleister... did

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all over the world... and weirdly once in algeria of all places

white depot
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Wait Magistus is getting the next OCG stories spot?!

foggy lotus
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Next March

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My body is ready

viral orbit
foggy lotus
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YAMERO

halcyon crane
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Will they finally give Zoroa his own archetype?

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Or he will forever become furtive pygmy, so easily forgotten

wild siren
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I wanna see the Aleister and Endymion's downfall

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I wanna see Endymion's rizz to get with a goddess

hollow wraith
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there were literally 2 characters in sky striker lore before they made the manga

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magistus doesn't have this problem

halcyon crane
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Yeah, Sky Striker cards are, at least pre-manga, always Raye do stuff, showing off her gear and power up, aaand that's it

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Prolly more suited for action figure ads than manga

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But hey, they made comic about a single piece of toy and is actually great story (Rom the Space Knight) so what do I know

lean surge
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Here's a solution. Don't randomly make up a wild story.

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Like that whole bit about Raye being the only human and rest of humanity has been wiped out by a huge Anti Human Satellite feels like it's out of nowhere and never implied in the first bit of her LORE.

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Like no reason not to just do a generic, mecha suit girl in the military because reasons plot vs enemy nation who somehow replicate the same mecha suit system with Roze.

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Still mad that the manga doesn't properly connect to the cards, mainly Alt Kagari and onward.

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Even if you wanted a fully original story, I feel 5 chars on the good side and 3 on the bad sides (I'm not counting the pets or the clones), that we have to watch feels super unnecessary, you could prob easily compress them to like 2-3 and 1-2.

white depot
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All I know is I can’t wait to see the new Magistus and other spellcaster archetype lore cards we get

hushed dune
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Well atleast Magistus is a more fun Deck then Sky Strikers so there is that atleast
Hopefully we get only stuff for them though
Endymion is annoying as is

halcyon crane
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They got like, at least 5 canon characters to bounce off each other, compared to Sky Striker 2 from opposite side (so more interaction to OCs than each other)

white depot
long bison
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I'm glad Magistus is getting a manga as well, basically 4 archetypes in one story we can enjoy. Could span over the decades in this timeline beyond them eventually separating.

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Hey, hold the phone-

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Snoww became a Lightsworn?!

halcyon crane
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Owo

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I forgor that Lightsworn and DW are in same world

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So did she disguised herself as LS member, or she really turn herself in

hushed dune
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She probably turned
I don't think the Yugioh World runs on Cartoon logic where they ignore how someone looks under a Hood

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Kinda weird she traded her Dress in for Pants though

white depot
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Imagine the DW LS storyline was just Grapha finding a lost doggo and having Snoww return it home. And saving doggos is a heroic act so she gets asked to join

wild siren
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I mean unlike the anime

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lorewise Dark World is like

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not evil

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they're all nice and noble

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also man I hope they don't fuck the Magistus lore up by adding shit that didn't need to be there

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or poorly connecting whatever lore we do have

hushed dune
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Never got that from the Card Art I saw

halcyon crane
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It's based on the lore book, tho I'm not sure whether it's supposed to be genuine, or DW own propaganda

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DW being in this weird bubble where it has its own lore but also appear in anime with their own lore doesn't help the case

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I believe GX also what bring misconception that Kozaky is part of DW

primal spire
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Magistus should have enough to wrok with

hushed dune
hollow wraith
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halcyon crane
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*Then from the dark, They came, and found the Guardian Deities within the Theurgy.

  • Aleister, the First to go Mad
  • The Witchcrafter of Verre and her Guild of Chaotic Craftwomen
  • Endymion, the Master of Magic, and his loyal aides (+ dubious mythical creatures)
  • And the Furtive Zoroa, so easily forgotten*
glacial dune
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» And the Furtive Zoroa, so easily forgotten

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That's a fat cap and they know it. :P

long bison
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Zoroa is the Legendary Flame Lord, right?

halcyon crane
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It never mentioned in lore but I can see it

long bison
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It absolutely reeks of propaganda language, ngl.

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"Yes! There is no war in Dark World borders! Ignore the dead bodies and slaves around you!"

hollow wraith
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yeah it is kinda sus that they specify that zure doesn't oppress the commoners

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it implies that the other knights do

viral orbit
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their field spells i think are the same

foggy lotus
halcyon crane
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Dark Souls 1 opening narration owo

white depot
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Oh

halcyon crane
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I made parody of it because Magistus manga Soon™️

foggy lotus
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Yeah the furtive part should've been a giveaway SlowpokeWheeze sadkjlgh

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It's pretty good

viral orbit
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[Magistus Vritra]

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# viral orbit [Magistus Vritra]
Effect

Target 1 Level 4 or lower "Magistus" monster in your GY; Special Summon it. If a "Magistus" card(s) in your Spell & Trap Zone would be destroyed by your opponent's card effect, you can banish this card from your GY instead. You can only use each effect of "Magistus Vritra" once per turn.

viral orbit
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Target 1 Level 4 or lower "Magistus" monster in your GY;

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Soon the Level 3 or lower monater that's always treated as a magistus.

glass blaze
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Anything new in the "not contained yugioh world"?

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Anything with DM?

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Or Darklords?

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Or anything?

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Are DW and LS now connected even more?

viral orbit
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no
no no
no
they were always connected and the only 2 themes connected to each other
@glass blaze

glass blaze
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Nah there's more themes

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I think

viral orbit
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no. Lightsworn and Dark World lore has only those 2 themes thus far

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as far as the lore goes

glass blaze
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Oh you meant that

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But Kozaky and Mad Lobster and Dark Blade

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Are all part of DW

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Eveb if not in the deck, they are residents

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And Kozaky ties it to Gagagigo

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And Gagagigo to everything else

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Tiras also connects thr Forbidden series due to him connecting Sanctuary

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And so Darklords

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RYKO CONNECTS TO GAGAGA

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Dead end

hushed dune
glass blaze
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Premature Return is also tied

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glass blaze
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/a Return from the Different Dimension

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glass blaze
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Ties with beast lore

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Orca idk what that ties

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Oh right live twin

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And then into DMCircle

viral orbit
# glass blaze RYKO CONNECTS TO GAGAGA

i wouldn't count those tho. cuz there is Monster World Lore (literally every monster interacting with each other) and then there is specific setting lore.
cuz by that logic Blackwing are a DT lore archetype, which is clearly not the case

glass blaze
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[Gagagarush]

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# glass blaze [Gagagarush]
Effect

When a face-up "Gagaga" monster(s) you control is targeted by the effect of an opponent's monster: Negate the effect of that opponent's monster, and if you do, destroy it, then inflict damage to your opponent equal to the destroyed monster's ATK or DEF in the Graveyard (whichever is higher).

viral orbit
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like in blackwing return.

glass blaze
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Still a card in this very game

viral orbit
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heck there was an anime trap the eviswarm virus

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viral orbit
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viral orbit
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why's the evilswarm virus trying to possess a copy knight...

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well cuz the card is BS from DSoD

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DSoD did not even have any of the summoning mechanics other than Fusion and Ritual...

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so DT shit shouldn't even be a thinh there... not to mention the imagery associated with an Xyz archetype.

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aka not every card art is lore.

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some are just whatever. or meant to be player vs player duels.

glass blaze
viral orbit
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i mean whatever knight

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it's just a generic knight

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not even a Gem-Knight

glass blaze
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The armors look nothing alike

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viral orbit
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well it ain't gem-knight crystal

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nor any DT monster.

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jade iron
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glass blaze
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And Live Twins

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Into Circle

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Into a lot more

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Now the question is, what is real?

jade iron
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Live Twins I think is a layer above

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Stuff like Geargia & Scraps are TV show characters

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Or at least merchandise exists

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But it gets fuzzy when those that wear the merch, are related to characters related to DT

glass blaze
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We know Gagagigo could either be a historical figure

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Or it's merch

jade iron
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DT exists as a toy in the goblin world, where Upstart Goblin owned Dharc as a slave, who presumably met Wynn at some point

glass blaze
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I just realzied

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Kozaky made robots

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But the rest of that scenery is medieval

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So in theory is the world in the 1900s or even further

glass blaze
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Well almost

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Not every archetype but a lot of old ones

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Pretty sure if going after the arc v era many crossover

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In vrains idk if we see this many big crossovers

hushed dune
glass blaze
dry lodge
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Who are the two below Zefra Metaltron here?

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Oh it's Lara and Nochiudrago

viral orbit
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Wait...

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Zefra Metaltron ain't post story ?

jade iron
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It's Luster Pendulum and the True Draco Majester

hushed dune
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Btw what do the Igknights and Dinomist monsters have to do with anything?
Are they involved in the Lore overall or are they just used as Armor for some of the True Dracos at some point?

viral orbit
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So again my theory on wtf is metaltron is

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I'm guessing its Crystal (Zefracore) in the middle of transforming into Zefrath

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it gotta be Crystal.

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it looks like Crystal

devout hearth
hushed dune
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Ah ok

glass blaze
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Would it be correct to assume that Salamandra, the Fighting Flame Dragon is actually supposed to be Darkfire Dragon?

silver harbor
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Doesn’t seem to be

glass blaze
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Ah

hushed dune
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Whats with Dark Blade btw?

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I have no Idea what his deal is

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Is he good? Bad? What is he up to? Why does he have 2 Dragons and a Horse?

halcyon crane
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@wild siren

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Thanks to Cartesia I can use card with Dark Blade artwork in my deck

glass blaze
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All we know is he's a mysterious warrior who somehow has the ability to manipulate dragons.

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Also likely a bad dude

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He was mostly just there as another of the many monsters you can slap union monsters onto, like [Pitch Dark Dragon] and [Kiryu]

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# glass blaze He was mostly just there as another of the many monsters you can slap union mons...

level Level: 3
[ Dragon / Union / Effect ]

ATK 900 / DEF 600

Effect

Once per turn, during your Main Phase, if you control this card on the field, you can equip it to your "Dark Blade" as an Equip Spell Card, OR unequip the Union equipment and Special Summon this card in face-up Attack Position. While equipped to a monster by this card's effect, increase the ATK/DEF of the equipped monster by 400 points. When it attacks with an ATK that is higher than the DEF of a Defense Position monster, inflict the difference as Battle Damage to your opponent's Life Points. (1 monster can only be equipped with 1 Union Monster at a time. If the equipped monster is destroyed as a result of battle, destroy this card instead.)

level Level: 5
[ Dragon / Union / Effect ]

ATK 2000 / DEF 1500

Effect

Once per turn, during your Main Phase, if you control this card on the field, you can equip it to your "Dark Blade" as an Equip Spell Card, OR unequip the Union equipment and Special Summon this card in face-up Attack Position. While equipped to a monster by this card's effect, increase the ATK/DEF of the equipped monster by 900 points, and you can Tribute this card to allow the equipped monster to attack your opponent's Life Points directly this turn. (1 monster can only be equipped with 1 Union Monster at a time. If the equipped monster is destroyed as a result of battle, destroy this card instead.)

celest storm
halcyon crane
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Still can't get over Kiryu weird underbite

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It doesnt even has upper teeth, just snout and that's it

hushed dune
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Dude comes around a lot damn

viral orbit
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what's the other monster ?

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the black and red ond

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also omg its kirby....

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she got a kirby

wild siren
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His art is just sick tho

glacial dune
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# glacial dune I think it's [Goblins' Crazy Beast].

rank_star Rank: 6
[ Fiend / Xyz / Effect ]

ATK 2700 / DEF 0

Effect

2+ Level 6 monsters
Once per turn (Quick Effect): You can target 1 Spell/Trap on the field; detach 2 materials from a monster(s) on the field, and if you do, attach that card to this card as material. If a monster(s) you control would be destroyed by card effect, you can detach 1 material from this card instead. If this card is in your GY: You can Special Summon this card, then you can attach 1 "Goblin" monster from your GY to it as material. You can only use this effect of "Goblins' Crazy Beast" once per Duel.

viral orbit
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it looks way creepy from the side tbh

hushed dune
# viral orbit

Do they clash or does the little Guy just obliberate him?

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Bit hard to tell with the weird Zylinder explosion in the middle
Makes it kinda look like Beast fights back

lean surge
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It's def Goblin's Beast.

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We know the little guy likes to eat energy, so it might be doing that here.

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Considering the eff, it seems to have used the Goblin's sinful spoil against themselves.

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So, maybe there's a spoil in the cylinder on it's next.

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We still have 2 Trap slots, so that might be one.

hushed dune
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Jesus christ

lean surge
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Neat unofficial link between Virus Traps and Kings.

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Sadly, doesn't translate at all to English.

hushed dune
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L-Lich Lord?

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Wtf

halcyon crane
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I remember when people try to connect Diabolos as true form of Dark King of the Abyss
Despite the OCG names states otherwise

viral orbit
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here's a weird thing... that new spell implies the goblin's crazy beast is a sinful spoil.... but none of the goblin cards support those...

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its odd

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the spell cannot even be used vs pure goblins

viral orbit
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have we got Quem Concpet art ( Guiding Quem i mean) ?

lean surge
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We could get a Sinful Spoil. My current theory is it has smthg to do with the cyclinder around it's next and maybe the Goblins are using it to control and/or power up the Beast or smthg.

viral orbit
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otherwise it would have been revealed

lean surge
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Could be indirect support.

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Smthg that helps Xyzs in general or smthg.

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What does [Goblin Beast] do again?

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# lean surge What does [Goblin Beast] do again?

rank_star Rank: 6
[ Fiend / Xyz / Effect ]

ATK 2700 / DEF 0

Effect

2+ Level 6 monsters
Once per turn (Quick Effect): You can target 1 Spell/Trap on the field; detach 2 materials from a monster(s) on the field, and if you do, attach that card to this card as material. If a monster(s) you control would be destroyed by card effect, you can detach 1 material from this card instead. If this card is in your GY: You can Special Summon this card, then you can attach 1 "Goblin" monster from your GY to it as material. You can only use this effect of "Goblins' Crazy Beast" once per Duel.

lean surge
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Hmmmm.

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The other Goblin support we got already cheats this out and gets you extra mats for your md/ed effs.

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Can't think what else could it be while being generic.

viral orbit
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Specially that one main deck monster

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it can't be either a snake-eye or diabellstarr

lean surge
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I doubt we have space for something new.

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Plus wouldn't a new deck go above new Diabellestar?

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IIRC, Goblins were above Snake Eye Pet last set.

viral orbit
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well the setcodes are kinda messy this set

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i think we gonna just introduce the antag/rival of diabellstarr

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so it + 2 new traps for it.

lean surge
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I can see that.

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But to me, the Spell indicates a new Sinful Spoil related to Beast that the Pet used to backfire on the Beast. Hence it's ungodly bad to read effect text.

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[original sinful spoil snake-eye]

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# lean surge [original sinful spoil snake-eye]
Effect

Send 1 other face-up card you control to the GY; Special Summon 1 Level 1 FIRE monster from your hand or Deck. You can banish this card from your GY, then target 1 "Snake-Eye" or "Diabellstar" monster in your GY; add 1 Level 1 FIRE monster from your Deck to your hand, then place the targeted monster on the bottom of the Deck. You can only use 1 "Original Sinful Spoils - Snake-Eye" effect per turn, and only once that turn.

lean surge
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Hmmmm. What stats do the new Goblin's share.

viral orbit
lean surge
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I could see another bounty hunter + Stealing Trap + A sinful spoil. Prob, the most likely scenario over 2 more Snake-Eye support that was unrevealed for no reason.

viral orbit
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here's my guess tho. since Diabellstarr is a dark magician parody. i think the rival will be something based on dark necrofear. ( but the opposite gender) so some kinda mannequin dude that adds Sinful Spoils to its body to enhance it.

lean surge
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Could be REBD, no?

viral orbit
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the snake-eyes dragon

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level 8 dragon 3k/2.5k (supoorted by level 1s)

lean surge
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That was BEWD, tho. PekoNaruhodo

viral orbit
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oh you meant red-eyes.

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nah i think they gotta do the bakura reference

lean surge
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A Dragon doesn't really work as another bounty hunter, tho. So, maybe not.

viral orbit
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and sorry i'm. kinda sleepy

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here's my logic.
if diabellstar is playing yugi's role. then true antag gotta be bakura-type role.

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also if this "antag" steals the snake-eye thing fro her, it would be fitting since bakura took the eye from pegasus

lean surge
#

Ok, I dug up stat analysis on Goblins. They are all Level 3/4 Warrior/BW/Fiend (referencing the old ass atk and schmoove to def goblin of yore), and multi attribute except Light.

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Tho, with the new Xyz, we have a Light now.

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They also had 0 DEF.

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So, a Sinful Spoil based on 0 DEF and maybe Level 3/4 only?

viral orbit
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i mean joey kinda used a Gobin Force monster (this why i think these Goblins would be allies with diabellstarr in future)

lean surge
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Oh wait, they are all 3s. Why did I think they are 3-4?

viral orbit
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i think they have a card that makes em level 4

lean surge
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Oh, we got another Goblin squad (with 0 atk instead) card around that time + Goblinbherg reprint, so I had my wires crossed.

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Their Rota searches Level 4 or lower as well.

viral orbit
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but yeh still hoping to see a creepy mannequin dude with sinful spoils fused into its body.

Insert name, the Dark Necromancer i guess ?

lean surge
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With the new Xyz, we have Level/R3 and 1 R6, and all 0 def, 2 Warrior, 2 Fiend, 2BW.
Level 3s with 0 Def deffo feels like a stats tribal worth supporting. Let me see if there's anything cool in that pool.

viral orbit
lean surge
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They did have a spell that level modified, so people used it to get R4 and weirdly R7 access.

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Tho, R8 is also possible, but you have to use all old Gobbos for that line, so it's like playing 2006 pile with searchers instead. Hahaa

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The Level 3 0 DEF pool has Unizombie.

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All 3 Mikanko mds fit. That's cute.

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Interesting the only Level 3 Raika has 0 DEF. aPeepoDetective

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It's also the generic revive one. So, you can make a Raika link and revive itself as an engine, maybe with any other body since the links only need one including type.

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Oh wait, it says except itself, so not really an engine.

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Perhaps intentional cross archetype potential. Like the Goblin searcher last set also working with Memento Goblin.

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Lab Chandlier is a spicy one. Same with Zefraxi.

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Tho, a lot of lines in my head only work if it summons these shits, if it just searches or just foolishes, a lot of these are nonbos.

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Banisher of Radiance is here. You know what, let it not be a E-Tele, thank.

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God, Agent Venus too.

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3/4 mds work in grave (1 in hand as well). 1 works only in hand.

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Ok, this is my bold prediction. New Sinful spoil will foolish a Level 3 with 0 DEF.

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Tho, Level 3 decks getting a foolish isn't too big, since Cherubini already exists.

halcyon crane
#

Out of all more broad "archetypes" (Archfiend, Ninja, etc) Goblin is prolly the most unique one, for being featured in several lore story

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Obv Goblin of Greed has his own storyline
Second Goblin (and Giant Orc by proxy) is part of D.D. Warrior Lady & Dai Grepher story and "how Sangan got banned in OCG"
Goblin Attack Force is in Gagagigo, amongst other things
WL has Knightmare Goblin
Now Goblin Biker owo

primal spire
#

Huh, new diabellstar antagonist

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Wonder why she's an illusion

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Also no more visas?

viral orbit
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lol... called it...

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so... the diabellstarr lore is just bayonetta and jeanne fighting over "the eyes of the world"...

lean surge
#

Kinda sad they didn't do a Sinful Spoils that indiretly helped Goblins, both the Traps are Illusion support, tho only one seems to her weapon, unlike Starr's 2. Tho, we might get another next set, since this fight doesn't seem it'll be over just yet.

viral orbit
lean surge
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Ye, that's what I meant.

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Only one of the Traps is a Weapon Spoil. So, the other one is prob due next set.

viral orbit
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i'm guessing a spell

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Some quick play spell that re-Sets itself if poped

viral orbit
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btw... she ia kinda based on a Bakura monster like i gussed

hushed dune
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I don't see it except for the fact it's a White Mage

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Looks more Witchcrafter then anything of these tbh

halcyon crane
#

Yeah honestly thought it was Witchcrafter card at first

viral orbit
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i mean Chronicle magician is based on white mage bakura

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and she has the same Atk/def as Chronicle and also white just like him

hushed dune
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The same stats as DM

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Diabell has the same Stats too

halcyon crane
#

This makes me realize that Visas card are almost never 2.5k/2k stats

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It's always 2.1k/1.5k or 3k/3k or vice versa

lean surge
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Feels like a stretch, imo.

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I also don't think Chronicle Magician is based on that either. It's just weird mix of DM and BE.

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Why is she even a Illusion?

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Also, just noticed the mouths design on the inside of her jacket. Looks so sick.

viral orbit
fading yarrowBOT
lean surge
#

This seems more convincing.

viral orbit
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wait no there are eyes on the inside too

lean surge
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Tho, I should note the eye bit is common across nearly all the Illusions.

viral orbit
viral orbit
hushed dune
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Missing a few things to be even close

viral orbit
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Snake-Eyes Diabellstarr has MoBC/DMoC Stats after all

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but their art is nothing like each other

hushed dune
#

Ancient Gear Golem is my Favorite Blue Eyes Reference

halcyon crane
#

Y'know, I never knew Rush Duel also cover cards from lore archetype

viral orbit
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it's a sea hons

halcyon crane
#

So just happen to share a name and color scheme

viral orbit
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i mean it's just Poseidon + Dragon name mix

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to make it fit sea serpent type

candid pebble
#

So was perusing Yugipedia and quick question

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does the Shiranui/Mayakashi storyline have an ending right now? Yugipedia leaves off with Mayakashi Yuki-Onna stealing Shiranui Squire/Skillsaga Supremacy's power

devout hearth
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not yet

candid pebble
#

dang

jade iron
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Looks nothing like Poseidra, ye

halcyon crane
#

tbh I like this Poseidra design

viral orbit
#

hons

jade iron
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I'm not a huge fan, it's very messy

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it's a hons, a dragon, an octopus, a sexy man

halcyon crane
#

I didnt notice the octopus, was it the hair?

jade iron
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I think the octopus is his shoulders

halcyon crane
#

Dem shoulders has mind of their own owo

hushed dune
long bison
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So the S-Force Link 1 is an android, not a person behind that lmao.

wild siren
#

catgirl robot

lean surge
#

Will never escape

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Clearly I:P escaped, since we got the Grenade card.

halcyon crane
#

Nightchaser is just really advanced Hierophant Green

silver harbor
#

It seems she only escaped due to Chiyomaru’s intervention

halcyon crane
#

And now she also hunting both girls

hushed dune
#

[Night Chase]

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# hushed dune [Night Chase]

level Level: 2
[ Zombie / Effect ]

ATK 500 / DEF 400

Effect

This card can attack your opponent's Life Points directly even if there is a monster on your opponent's side of the field.

hushed dune
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?

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How do you even...

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[S-Force Night Chaser]

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# hushed dune [S-Force Night Chaser]

Rating: Link-1 ()
[ Cyberse / Link / Effect ]

ATK 800

Effect

1 non-Link "S-Force" monster
Each of your opponent's monsters in the same column as one of your "S-Force" monsters cannot target the monsters in its same column for attacks. During the Main Phase (Quick Effect): You can target 1 "S-Force" monster you control; shuffle it into the Deck, then you can Special Summon 1 of your banished "S-Force" monsters. You can only use this effect of "S-Force Nightchaser" once per turn.

hushed dune
#

Not escaping my Ass

hushed dune
#

What the mother of...

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Archboi got himself Red Eyes Drip

viral orbit
hushed dune
#

That's a Apple on her Staff?

halcyon crane
#

I swear this entire story reminds me of Garudayana (or any preexisting story with similar formula, it just the one that come first to mind)
Main heroine found a mascot McGuffin wanted by all, and become their caretaker, then come rival female antagonist stealing said McGuffin

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The fact that both story also involving mascot McGuffin enlarge themselves and consuming another large monster in the process

quartz plover
#

What do we expect from the next Magistus manga?

hushed dune
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Politics

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Probably

quartz plover
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I want to see the story behind Normal Summon Aleister

long bison
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Maybe even a lot of poetry exchanging between Endymion and Selene. I don't know why I thought that, but it sounds nice.

hushed dune
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Nah Racism is Duel Terminal Lore

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They even have a Mascot in Catastor

warm minnow
#

nah itll be your standard fantasy novel

lean surge
#

Sadly, they seemed to have picked Aleister for the protag.

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So, mostly prob just him in the shadow being devious and about to do illegal summons or some shit, while interesting chars like Endy or Verre are side chars. Atleast, we'll most likely get what's the deal with Zorua and what happened to him/caused the Magistus to split?

warm minnow
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hopefully itll get good support so instead of using horus and dogmatika as a crutch i can play magistus pure lol

viral orbit
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when does it start

warm minnow
#

tmmrw is chap 1

quartz plover
#

Let's go

warm minnow
halcyon crane
#

I know the focus mainly is on Aleister but hope they expand the other three as well

hushed dune
#

Does that mean we will be able to Special Summon Aleister?

warm minnow
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nah im sorry, you'll have to now get used to flip summoning aleister only

quartz plover
#

Let's go

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Normal Summon Aleister, activate
(I have Invocation in hand anyways)

foggy lotus
#

Working on translation now slowpokethumbsup

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Also the babby isn't Aleister like I thought at first super quick skim SlowpokeWheeze dammit

foggy lotus
candid pebble
#

Oh you can really tell this is the Zexal mangaka

halcyon crane
wild siren
#

wasn't expecting Zoroa to be the bad guy tbh

hollow wraith
#

i was so sure it would be endymion

halcyon crane
#

OCG realized that Synchro Zoroa has Calamity in the name with floodgatey effect not unlike the last two that got banned

wild siren
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Which I just find funny

halcyon crane
#

I really want to know how one married his own stand, while other build golem based on her stand (because apparently she can no longer summon it?), and whatever happened to Aleister and his

silver harbor
#

Calling it now Aruru gets portrayed as some great magical horror/abomination

halcyon crane
#

Guess this explains why Zoroa is so easily forgotten (and dont have his own archetype)

wild siren
#

[Aruru]

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# wild siren [Aruru]

level Level: 8
[ Spellcaster / Effect ]

ATK 2800 / DEF 0

Effect

When your opponent activates a card or effect that targets a Spellcaster monster(s) you control, or targets it for an attack (Quick Effect): You can target 1 card your opponent controls, or 1 "Witchcrafter" Spell in your GY; Special Summon this card from your hand, and if you do, return that targeted card to the hand. You can only use this effect of "Witchcrafter Golem Aruru" once per turn. Once per turn, during your opponent's Standby Phase: Return this card to the hand.

warm minnow
#

I'm guessing them mean Ninaruru, Aruru is just Rilliona's Fan Creation to Ninaruru

wild siren
#

a[Ninaruru]

halcyon crane
#

owo she has glass cat and glass birb

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Never notice them before

lean surge
# wild siren yeah right? Endymion was absolutely the one the lore has been setting up as the ...

I'm the opposite. Endy in the LORE is described as a tyrant, warmonger and experiments on animals, etc etc. But to me, I could see that being a cover story and is secretly the good one in his conflict against the Spellbook peeps. Or atleast not as evil as he is made out to be.
And tbf, his apprehension with their ways is shown correct later along the timeline since we see Aleister powers(?) the Spellbook Tower or smthg, and then becomes the T pose Tower fusion.

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My original theory was Aleister did a sneaky and fucked up some secret experiment/testing while doing a magic involving the other Magistus, such as the one in Theurgy and that lead to Zorua's death/disappearance, and thus the Magistus divided.

hushed dune
fading yarrowBOT
lean surge
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Zorua being Yugioh Aizen is wild tho.

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Not sure about Destroyer.

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But my theory is that Aleister was secretly involved in the first Endy v Spellbook war. The turning point of the war was Fool stumbling onto the forbidden Spellbook. So, maybe Aleister sneakily made that Spellbook appear before him, without the others knowing of their involvement.

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Same with Endy's motivation for the war. Which is said to be, that he opposes the Spellbook Tower's view on Magic should be accessible to everyone. I believe, atleast another reason for it is, he knows that Aleister might be involved somehow and that's why he attacks. And when he comes back as Pends, Aleister's shows that he is actually in control of the Tower.

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A third part of the theory extends to Verre's current whereabouts. Since she's last seen MIA in Witchcrafter Confusion. My guess is she's heading to the place of the second war between Endy and the Tower and will intervene somehow. Either alongside Endy to save/defeat Aleister or opposing both Rayquaza style.

halcyon crane
#

I would be surprised if they even referenced Destroyer in here

halcyon crane
long bison
#

Just for different reasons

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But true, Endy's tyrant reputation could just be fabricated to keep people from trying to fight his society or something.

white depot
white depot
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I see Endy’s absolute rule as a result of whatever situation is going on in Ch. 1. I don’t think the citizens of his kingdom mind. They still have access to magic, it’s just regulated.
Spellbook Tower is anyone can do whatever they want and Endy doesn’t trust that after what Zoroa did

long bison
#

Why is Rilliona blushing at the end?

white depot
#

I think that baby is Mat (Fool of Prophecy)

viral orbit
#

nah

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it can't be

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why would the fool be the son if selene and endymion

lean surge
#

My current theory is Magister.

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The rest of the Pendymions are chars in the larger Magical Citadel LORE.

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And it kinda sounds like Magistus, and shares the same bit of the name in jp, albeit the ruby text. Compelling, I know.

halcyon crane
#

Now I know the Ashened One might or might not be Dark Souls related...

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But the concept of placing and destroying field spell (modern Triamid huh?) isn't that literally the entire story of DS3

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Or Fromsoft storytelling in general

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Basically civilization built atop of ruin of other civilization, again and again, till the end of the world

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Heck, this dragon be shooting laser like Midir

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we know Darkeater Midir's laser was designed after Shin Godzilla's

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And this trap card has very... reminiscing imagery

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(Also called it, it is DARK Pyro archetype)

jade iron
#

This dude has arms on his head

halcyon crane
#

He kinda reminds me of that one dragon from 5Ds era

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it also has arms on their head

halcyon crane
#

There we go

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Upon close inspection, those things not arms... but definitely shaped like hands

white depot
long bison
#

God dammit...so she DOES have an eye of wdjat.

viral orbit
#

more like many

halcyon crane
#

I wonder why she doesn't has battle-related effect

viral orbit
#

i think just so they can fit more text on her

viral orbit
#

but yeh i think only the filler illusions gonna have that effect.

halcyon crane
#

Yeah but Psychic has more history at that point

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Illusion is still pretty new-ish

viral orbit
#

lore stuff juat still do their own thing

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like the world legacy cyberse

halcyon crane
#

So it's interesting how fast they branched out

lean surge
#

Getting real tired of all Illusion mons having the same aesthetic element (The eye here) + Same battle eff.

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The comparision to early Psychic is pretty correct, and to an extent even worse in these, in that it's the exact same effect, not even LP gain related varied effs, and Green Lightning over a specific Eye symbol.

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The Normal and Diabelleze pave hope for Future Illusions to be more unique.

silver harbor
#

Early psychic at least had a good aesthetic

jade iron
#

An entire type as Nostalgiabait?

halcyon crane
#

Yeah, you know a monster is psychic just by the background alone and not on the monster design itself, it's nice

viral orbit
#

how could u hate her!

halcyon crane
#

tbh I'm gonna main her in Branded Chimera

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Or just Chimera

silver harbor
#

i mean she's gonna be a 3 of in every illusion deck ever

hushed dune
#

I just put her in a shitty rank 6 Deck and see what happens

halcyon crane
#

Made me remember the original discourse with DMG

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Is she meant all DARK Spellcaster, or just Dark magician, in the manga

lean surge
#

[apprentice illusion]

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# lean surge [apprentice illusion]

level Level: 6
[ Spellcaster / Effect ]

ATK 2000 / DEF 1700

Effect

You can Special Summon this card (from your hand) by discarding 1 card. If this card is Normal or Special Summoned: You can add 1 "Dark Magician" from your Deck to your hand. During damage calculation, if your other DARK Spellcaster monster battles an opponent's monster (Quick Effect): You can send this card from your hand or face-up field to the GY; that monster you control gains 2000 ATK/DEF during that damage calculation only.

lean surge
#

It's this but the Illusion is in the type now, and the search made more generic. Hahaa

halcyon crane
#

DMG would prolly still be used today as generic Spellcaster support if she had that kind of effect

viral orbit
halcyon crane
#

Exactly, that's why there's discourse of it

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Wait, don't you mean 300

#

I'm talking manga here

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In original printing, it says "This turn, each player can Summon a Black Magician from their Deck by paying half their Life Points."

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Yugi summon DMG with this

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And as result it has this page
https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Black_Magic

Yugipedia - Yu-Gi-Oh! Wiki

Black Magic (黒(くろ)魔(ま) Kuroma) is a Type. It is used in Duel Monsters in the Yu-Gi-Oh! and in the Bandai Yu-Gi-Oh! Carddass, but not in the OCG/TCG.

viral orbit
halcyon crane
#

Well then there's no relevancy with what I said since I mentioned the manga owo

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Tho it originally said "Spellcaster" might have something to do with it

halcyon crane
#

owowo

#

Gotta love how chimera is associated with it

#

Tho am gonna assume if they had one it could be one of Pegasus card

#

Come to think of it, Toon monsters could as well be Illusion-type huh

#

They should retrain Pegasus deck (again)

viral orbit
halcyon crane
#

They're not, but I could see the case why the two part of Pegasus deck are similar

#

Both are not confined to regular battle rule

#

I don't recall toon monster ever destroyed by battle in manga

lean surge
#

Type icons have used Specific monsters before.

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Like Wyrm being Baxia.

#

The one notable thing is that the Eye is still here. Not only is it pervasive on the card arts, even non-anime and LORE. It got into the icon.

viral orbit
#

They should have called them Eye type at that point @lean surge

hushed dune
#

The Link one they got is just a headscratcher and a half
Does it even work with Relis Support Cards?

hushed dune
#

Is there any info on this Guy?
As in if it is a Pet or just a random monster
Maybe even Harpie Sisters Father?

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I know the answer is most likely just "Random Monster that has somehow a effect based around Harpie Lady" but it's funny to think about what that thing could imply

lean surge
#

My guess is they might have introduced it to coincide with all the 25th anni stuff they've been coming out and the Eye connects to both original DM/Pegasus etc, but also celebrating Yugioh in general by referencing the eye in the bottom corner of cards. peepoFastspin

hushed dune
#

All that Eye imagery makes me think it should have been called Millenium instead of Illusion

halcyon crane
#

Reminds me of Millenium Shield

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Card that definitely could become Illusion type despite never once used in manga

lean surge
#

Millennium Shield might as well have the Illusion eff, cuz it is never destroying or being destroyed by battle.

hushed dune
#

There was [Millenuim Giant] too I think

fading yarrowBOT
hushed dune
#

Oh wait it was [Millennium golem]

fading yarrowBOT
hushed dune
#

He looks like Gate Guardian Support

#

Labrynth Wall Assault Mode

halcyon crane
#

Then there's [Sengenjin]

fading yarrowBOT
halcyon crane
#

No eye motif, just random giant that vaguely carrying "millenium items"

#

Ah its name even translates to Millennium Primitive Man

hushed dune
#

He carries that Stone Tablet where they all slot in on his back

#

Pharaos weakest Soldier

halcyon crane
#

Damn just few days ago we talked about this and here's them

#

Sengenjin, Millenium Golem, & Millenium Shield retrain

#

possibly Illusion-type

foggy lotus
#

Sengenjin is beast-warrior, golem is rock, absoluter and maiden are illusion and shield is ||warrior|| as it should be

halcyon crane
#

Oh they keep their original type

foggy lotus
#

Yee

halcyon crane
#

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▶ Play video
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HOLY

#

Official YGO Card Lore Anime finally

#

(I know it's mostly just one-time-thing, for celebration, but hey, a little taste of what could've been)

foggy lotus
#

God I know

halcyon crane
#

Straight from the concept art

hushed dune
hollow wraith
#

raye looks even more like a saberface than usual in this vid

silver harbor
#

The fucking evil twin section was so good

quartz plover
#

The Sky Striker part tbh pogofgreed made me immediately think about that Raye copypasta

candid pebble
#

This is in my head now

#

They didn’t have to say that

silver harbor
#

Also the part where Fleur is the one taking Albaz’s eye is rad

hollow shell
#

The cut from melfys to zeus is so funny

silver harbor
#

Saw it while scrolling Twitter but

#

In the evil twins sequence Lil-la is doing all the fighting (destroying) while Ki-sikil is getting away with the goodies (drawing)

Just like their cards

hushed dune
#

People be quick this this

#

Would have been cool to see a Cutaway from Eldlich to her

halcyon crane
long bison
hollow wraith
#

society would collapse without the power of smug anime girls

hushed dune
# hushed dune

Imma make that my new PS5 Backround
That's really adorable

halcyon crane
#

Poor Dracoslayer and World Legacy doesnt has reps

foggy lotus
#

Poor Shuraig wants to be in the movie too

quartz plover
#

[EM:P Meowmine]

fading yarrowBOT
# quartz plover [EM:P Meowmine]

level Level: 2
[ Cyberse / Effect ]

ATK 800 / DEF 0

Effect

If a Link Monster is on the field or in either GY, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand). You can only Special Summon "EM:P Meowmine" once per turn this way. If a Link-2 monster you control is sent to the GY or banished face-up (except during the Damage Step): You can banish this card from your GY (if it was there when the monster was sent or banished) or hand (even if not), then target 1 card your opponent controls; return it to the hand. You can only use this effect of "EM:P Meowmine" once per turn.

quartz plover
# fading yarrow

So what is the exact relation between this card and I:P and S:P

#

Seeing these three cards makes me want to see a full :P archetype

halcyon crane
#

It is just a grenade, more than a character

quartz plover
#

Everyone wants S:P so much they made an archetype based on her if that happens LOL

hushed dune
#

They should first make a actual Archetype around Tour Guide if anything

quartz plover
#

Yeah

quartz plover
primal spire
#

I think we finally have confirmation that theyre not actually related

#

Theyre just girlfriends

candid pebble
#

Based

wild siren
#

As I said to Ovven elswhere, I'm still skeptical

hushed dune
#

Is the Shork making the ~~Awwww~ noise or Lila?

primal spire
muted anchor
silver harbor
hushed dune
silver harbor
#

yeah this one

#

most siblings I know (including myself) wouldn't be caught dead sharing a drink like that

hushed dune
#

I think that's Ice Cream

silver harbor
#

the line between beverage and ice cream milkshakes create is thin enough as is

halcyon crane
#

So I:P indeed related to the Twins

hushed dune
#

And they therefore relate to S Force wich bundles Time Thieves and Psi Frames too

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Pretty neat

halcyon crane
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Always find it weird that Chiyo and robot doggo only chase 1 person instead of entire archetype like other member, but this put things in context

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Helps that they do share an aesthetic

hushed dune
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I guess that means she chased the Twins too while getting intel from Sunny

long bison
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Thanks for the tease, Konami. Pain

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We've been waiting for her dragon form for so long and still don't have it.

halcyon crane
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Soon ™️

hushed dune
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It's gonna be a Searcher that you throw in to the GY mark my Words

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Or a Xyz/Fusion

halcyon crane
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Where do you guys find these?

long bison
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the subreddit postin' these. 😮

halcyon crane
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Oooh

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Mucho thanks

long bison
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Well, one chunk of it at least.

viral orbit
lean surge
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We need a place to compile all of these.

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Found a compilation of a lot of them.

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Please ping me with anything's that is missing. I'll make a Google drive link out of all these to share later.

primal spire
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Damn Nerval is relatable

long bison
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Dude needs a tank to breathe? Damn.

primal spire
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He uses what looks like gas grenades

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Thats probably why

halcyon crane
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Konami artists on their mission creating gap moe of badass girl by making them relatable

long bison
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Eepy Lovely.

warm minnow
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Raws

hollow wraith
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i'm not used to aleister looking so smol

lean surge
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New mascot char dropped.

hollow wraith
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what attribute do you think it is

foggy lotus
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Yee I got up to page 10 before work this morning

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Fucking corozo

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It'll probably get a card

lean surge
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Is that beloved fan favorite character Malicevoros "Spoon" 's skinsona?

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I was thinking the mascot was looking like a digimon.

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And it fucking digivolved into NotAngemon.

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Very likely to be made into a card later.

warm minnow
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more main deck monsters please

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and actually strong spells

hollow wraith
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i would very much be okay with more invoked support

warm minnow
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honestly, im biased bc im a magistus player but i would love if it supported both decks

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something like astroloud but for crowley or aleister

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would be fun

primal spire
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This is more likely to be Magistus rather than Invoked support no?

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Since its young Aleister

halcyon crane
#

Raflessia confirmed to have stanky ass feet

warm minnow
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but it doesnt mean its not invoked support

lean surge
#

Sky Striker lore characters that came out of the Yu-Gi-Oh! OCG Stories manga are not included. Only stuff related to Raye and Roze are included.

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Everyday, my theory of Striker manga might as well be not canon to rest of card LORE grows stronger.

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When I say, Striker card LORE, I'm obv placing the chars that got made into cards like the Roze clones, Magi, and the new Link 2 etc into the manga timeline pile.

hushed dune
lean surge
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Video of a guy flipping thru the artbook. Starts at around 5:25.

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I'd recommend downloading this before it gets taken down or smthg.

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Hmmmm. Should I pin this?

halcyon crane
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Damn bilibili

viral orbit
foggy lotus
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Is this vbex4 pogU

viral orbit
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nah

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art book

foggy lotus
#

Ooooo

foggy lotus
#

Time to finish translating

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Holy fuck

hushed dune
#

What?

foggy lotus
bronze quartz
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Is that gonna be Aleister's Kyubey?

halcyon crane
#

The whole Live Twins & I:P feels like the weirdest double and half fates if I ever see one

long bison
#

Who the hell is Spoon in the latest chapter? abi_confused

viral orbit
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Spoon is a Spoon

warm minnow
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Spoon is our favorite piece of cutlery

long bison
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The true Androgynous of all time.

warm minnow
#

Spoon, the Magistus of Cutlery

viral orbit
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don't think he will be a magistus by name

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the manga implies that only the trio and zoroa have that status

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I really hope Corozo does not die

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but knowing .... the lore, it likely will and set up Aleister on his dark path

foggy lotus
viral orbit
#

any guess how the diabellstar story is gonna go this time

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My guess is that Diabellze is gonna fuse with poplar, summon an army of illusion monsters and diabellstar somehow gotta win (even though she's at a disadvantage due to Spellcaster being weaker to illusion)

hushed dune
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I just hope it will not be boring

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Love these new Snake Eyes and Diabell stuff
It's neat and I love the Sleepy Big Sis

halcyon crane
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It's interesting disparity we have with Diabellstar/Snake-Eyes

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Usually when Komoney starting their new lore, the first card/archetype made to left an impression without bending the meta their way too much (but they would shaped up nicely nearing the end of the story)

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Leaving DT aside since they're initially more large-scale & not as character-driven as later lores

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Dracoslayer begin more as engine in pendulum decks, only become true deck near the end

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3 World Legacy Heroes doesn't leave much impression as introduction of Link deck/era, but they do became meta at later point... as different cards

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Albaz begin as part of Dogmatika, become its own deck midway of the story

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Visas is heccin useless but still interesting card, is now at better place with Manadium

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Diabellestar/Snake-Eyes, unlike previous one, is already proven to be meta defining, and would only get stronger from here

lean surge
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Tbf, it took a set to get there.

halcyon crane
#

Oh yeah, pre-poplar Snake-Eyes were suck

lean surge
#

The Snek dog connected the whole deck a lot.

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On the note of Diabelle LORE, tho. I'm not sure where's they'll go next.

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From prev stuff, it should be a new deck.

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Wonder if they'll make a whole deck that works with Diabeelze.

halcyon crane
#

Must be heccin floodgate smh

lean surge
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Maybe smthg like Albaz LORE had Despia deck with Branded backrow which already existed (tho only one set before), so this will also have Sinful Spoil lineup like Diabellestar's, that work with new deck instead.

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We already kinda got that with the Illusion supporting Sinful Spoils.

halcyon crane
#

I wonder if Diabell theme is 7 deadly sins since we got lucifer/morningstar & beelzebub already owo

lean surge
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Was Diabellestar a Lucifer reference? Think_Snek

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I remember it being smthg different.

halcyon crane
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The star makes me think so

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Could be wrong ofc

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But the theming name of sinful spoil makes me think that way

lean surge
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Oh, I forgor Diabelleze's had the apple motif.

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Also, the name is Original Sin.

viral orbit
halcyon crane
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Two things can be true at the same time

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Still nice to learn where the name come from

lean surge
#

Belle Starr when Belle Zee enters the room.

long bison
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I always wondered how G.B. Hunter fits into the Gladiator Beasts lore. In the MD Solo mode, the Gladiator Beasts were just dudes that never stopped fighting in that colosseum even after the empire that built them died off. Does she prevent their spirits from returning?

viral orbit
#

nani

halcyon crane
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Yeah I never understand that either

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Like I get that Konami used to create anti-deck card that could fit thematically like Vampire Hunter to the Vampire

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But she's older card than him and I wonder the thought process of her inception

hushed dune
halcyon crane
#

It's all in the name really

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And the fact that her effect directly counter GB strategy

hushed dune
#

So it's speculation at best
Good to know

glass blaze
#

And the Glad Beasts were like animals

white depot
#

Did this chat die? Ducky uploaded chapter 3

warm minnow
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nothing really major happened that needed to discuss i guess

white depot
#

I mean people make some sorta comment. There was also Endymion background that explains why he created the Power Stones or whatever they are called

foggy lotus
#

Yeah honestly not much has been going on it's kind of irritating the pace they're going at

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Endy's backstory was kinda neat

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And he really got to show off why he's big bitch

white depot
#

I kinda enjoy it more than Sky Strikers. Worried though it might become all gas later on though

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And so far we’ve gotten backstories for Endymion and Crowley. Now we just need to know Rilliona’s and Zoroa’s

warm minnow
#

Rilliona was hinted at being royalty in this chapter

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I don't know if we knew that before

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honestly theres a couple of setups for some next chapters thou

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we got whatever happened to Chorozu, the entrance to the other world, what makes zoroa turn to look forward to

lean surge
#

Worse pacing + Bloating the cast.

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Sadly the two criticisms I had for the Striker Saga. You really don't need the whole setup of the Brother plot. Him being royalty/handing his throne to his brother was already known.

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If the brother plotline will be more relevant, you could have it start there instead of this preamble battle that doesn't add much.

warm minnow
#

it was known bc of the lore books but for first timers then its fine to mention

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the sub plot is kinda lame for sure. chapter 1 is also very awkward in what we seen so far.

lean surge
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No, I meant it was mentioned last chapter.

viral orbit
#

anytthing about VBEX yet ?

foggy lotus
#

We got a bunch of somewhat blurry but kinda readable photos

viral orbit
#

when the not the blurry stuff

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we should donate better cameras to Japan with a free photography classes

foggy lotus
#

When someone actually scans it sadkljhg

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It's usually the chinese that do the photos/scans

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I know I get my magistus scans from the chinese

viral orbit
viral orbit
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or worse... when the card leaks... those look like a picture of a Cryptid

hushed dune
devout hearth
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https://ygorganization.com/art1-card-game-art-works-the-abyss/
important things about albaz lore from the art book

  • commandment 334: thou shalt not wear pajamas with designs
  • fraktall was born without eyebrows
  • kitt has fluffy socks
  • sargas' necklace is supposed to relieve stiff shoulders
  • aluber's illustrator is afraid of clowns
  • spright red has light-up sneakers
  • argyro has personality traits from all the sprights
hollow wraith
#

aluber's artist being afraid of clowns explains so much

devout hearth
#

new md dt gate means new lore yippee

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so souza was the old leader of the xsabers and not a great person
gottoms admired his tenacity, joined up and worked his way up to become 2nd in command
then the xsabers started having an internal conflict bc gottoms actually tried to be considerate and not throw people's lives away
and this is all happening during the war with the worms so it's not really a good time
one day souza disappears without a trace and leaves one of his swords behind, so gottoms takes up the leadership
he turns the band of mercenaries into actual competent soldiers
they grow and apparently now have an entire region
then he picks some of the elite and they get to work with aoj to fight the worms and become xx-saber

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bottom text

hollow wraith
#

interesting

long bison
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I didn't even realize Souza was the original leader. He looked like some generic mercenary dude than a leader.

#

Do we know what happened to Souza from other lorebooks?

viral orbit
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wait... why tf is she in Egypt
i see pyramids.... wait is she meant to be a Sphinx despite the name
where does this even take place lol. there are 0 Egyptian themes in Draco Lore.

jade iron
#

@viral orbit

white depot
#

Came back as Invoker

jade iron
viral orbit
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not that phoenixes look like that lol

jade iron
#

It's a dracophoenix, who knows what they're supposed to look like

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Also, very tentative

lean surge
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Thought it was a funny oversight that the picture showing the fractured factions of Souza and Gottoms had Urbellum in the corner, even tho he is Souza.

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But apparently he's not?

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Unless Urbellum is supposed to be his double identity and became his defacto mode when he disappeared(/faked his death going by this theory), until he returned back as Invoker.

halcyon crane
#

MD do be weird

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Reminder that they use Executor to represent Mist Valley

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Not, you know, Thunder Lord, or even Apex Avian

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Okay, Thunder Lord prolly out of question because the art is kinda spoilery when it has Catastor being wrecked

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And the other card featuring him is him being brainwashed by Fabled

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And MD havent introduced Fabled to Solo mode yet

white depot
# lean surge But apparently he's not?

I don’t think they ever were the same monster. I looked over the lore and trivia on Yugipedia. Lore says they come from the same school of swordplay but the trivia section says they have the same beard. On closer inspection, Urbellum doesn’t have a beard. That’s a chin guard. So that piece of trivia is wrong

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Their outfits are different with slight similarities (which isn’t odd for archetypical monsters), Urbellum has a smaller frame than Souza, and their effects are different. Yugipedia doesn’t even mention the connection between Invoker and Souza their trivia sections so I wouldn’t call it a reliable source

hushed dune
#

Not even the same Skin Tone

jade iron
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Also Souza has like 7 X's, Uruguay only has 3, that's just not the same level of commitment

viral orbit
#

@lean surge found our next star god...

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central dogma

jade iron
#

I love you, OpenWorm, goddess of rebirth

viral orbit
viral orbit
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you guys joke... until konami drops "3D Virtual Creature Evolution, Goddess of computer graphics"

hushed dune
#

Yo are these Kid Diabell and Diabellze?

devout hearth
#

very likely

halcyon crane
#

They got card named Diabell, Silvera, and most importantly, Sinful Spoil

#

It is definitely an origin story

halcyon crane
#

Onyo thy used Anime/Manga version of Multiply on her

jade iron
#

found Wally

hushed dune
long bison
#

Is it me, or does Ms.Guide look like a cardboard cutout here?

hushed dune
#

I think it's just because the Colors are a bit more saturated on her

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Compared to the Laundries that is

halcyon crane
#

I love the pendulum swings

hushed dune
#

We need a retrain for it and Slot Machine Asap
I can't live in a World where it isn't a Pendelum Monster

foggy lotus
#

It JUST clicked that's who Lucia and Silvy are

#

HOLY shit

viral orbit
foggy lotus
#

I am not a slowpoke for no reason

jade iron
#

What's the lore connection between Yu-Gi-Oh and Hello Kitty

foggy lotus
#

Belgium

jade iron
#

Or should I say

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Albion

halcyon crane
#

Ironically there's no Noble Knight-esque archetype in Albaz lore

hushed dune
#

Here b4 Nobleknights of the Matik is a Archetype

viral orbit
#

huh so post Avida

#

and what seems to be Evil Guardragons ?

lean surge
#

Albaz Eye reveal.

#

Also, Ecclesia still seems to have remnants of her time as Cartesia/Granguingnol.

#

New One Eyed race in Ecclesia bg.

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I don't think she has horns in the Open Land or whatever its called now spell. So, are these Diegitic horn constructs she gets when she uses her powers.

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Rockey Fire Punch is sick, tho.

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Not sure if Albaz's sword is from that Mirrorblade spike or is just meant to be reminiscent of it.

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We don't know what the Blade that Albaz broke/the Flame Lotus around Ecclesia are or come from. Could get more info from the other alts.

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Now that I look at it, that just seem to be some fruit that got knocked into the air from the cart in bottom(somewhat leftish).

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Saint 336 is nowhere on either card, right? The thing on Ecclesia's Hammer just seems to be a metal loop that looks darkened on the other side of the lightened parts.

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Unique texture to the wind eff at the bottom, I noticed.

halcyon crane
quartz plover
#

Inb4 a new Ecclesia for Ecclesia turbo Branded builds

candid pebble
#

Where are these images from?

silver harbor
#

The live stream

viral orbit
viral orbit
silver harbor
#

Honestly there’s a non-0 chance she can just craft things out of guignol flesh now

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Since the hammer head kinda looks like it

primal spire
#

Thatd be sick

silver harbor
#

Ecclesia has the power of guignol’s body and Quem is left with the power of the souls that inhabited it

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Would be rad

viral orbit
#

i mean the wings and horns do imply she gained new powers

stone prism
#

S-Swordsoul....

Swordsoul.....

Swordsoul Support!

Please!!!!

stone prism
silver harbor
#

The swordsoul as a whole are completely MIA aside from Longyuan being Aegirine’s personal war trophy

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Also since these are alt arts that’s probably the best you can hope for until branded chapter 2 kicks in

viral orbit
halcyon crane
#

I'm much worried about Aegirine, because she's few step away from becoming vilainess herself

viral orbit
#

she likely blames "the outside world" for what happened

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Including albaz and ecclesia

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note, the girl was forced to age up in 1 day.

fading yarrowBOT
viral orbit
#

does not help that we see dead icejade allover the place.

long bison
#

The Last Icejade. If that happens, then her race is truly destined to be extinct. sad

#

Hope that isn't the case and she focuses on rebuilding her kind...somehow.

viral orbit
#

but that does not mean she isn't fucked up.

silver harbor
#

or she even knows how to do it properly

viral orbit
#

i mean i don't think she does have to do anything. don't they Just emerge from the mountain.

silver harbor
#

i don't recall honestly

#

but i could absolutely see villain arc aegirine deciding to take more aggressive measures for rebuilding her people

long bison
#

Maybe she can turn living people into Icejade. sweating

frigid flame
#

So the fact we went from the Snake-Eye monsters being named after trees to Dia's childhood in a forest can't be a coincidence, right? Squint

hushed dune
#

They are probably the burned remains of the Forest

viral orbit
#

Still no scans

lean surge
#

Scans?

viral orbit
#

VBEX@lean surge

#

i have seen some pages floating around, but nothing much.

foggy lotus
viral orbit
foggy lotus
#

It's not a cringe SlowpokeWheeze it's suffering

halcyon crane
#

"Poplar is the best pet in the world."
"Poplar is my best friend in the world."
"And Poplar—"
"—likes Risette more than Asteria." ≧∇≦
"And Risette is stinky!!!"
"She overdue my credit account!!!"