Bushiroad games (Vanguard, Weiß Schwarz, etc)

[fluid garnet]

V Chrono Dran is not a ZTB

[spiral crest]

cough

[fluid garnet]

Hola

[sharp forum]

we don't need ZTB to come back

[fluid garnet]

@spiral crest episode was good

[spiral crest]

havent watched like the last 6

[fluid garnet]

Understandable

[sharp forum]

that grand final fight was intense

[spiral crest]

@fluid garnet youthberg and dragjeweled making waves now

There’s a pretty big tournament this weekend that will probably have both of them show up

[fluid garnet]

this F tier makes me very happy

The best/funniest Drajewled tech is playing 1 grade 4 Bruce

[spiral crest]

lyrical monestario is just a dumpster fire

the new pink hair chick was promising but everything from set 5 is just better

[fluid garnet]

@spiral crest REAL

[sharp forum]

ngl I am little upset that in anime we didn't see supposed Lyrical player play at all and thus we still haven't seen that nation used in anime

[spiral crest]

What is the top set? Just a dark states trial deck?

[fluid garnet]

set 9

[spiral crest]

Oh that messiah deck is probably cray elemental right

Didn’t the chronojet one mention dark states

[grave cradle]

https://youtu.be/Te45nb-bblk

new english footage of DD

[sharp forum]

I am hoping that this means that both NA and EU get DD

[grave cradle]

it's been confirmed we are for awhile now

[sharp forum]

that's good

[grave cradle]

just seems no physical version, just steam and eshop

[spiral crest]

@fluid garnet youthberg probably a top 3 deck now post set 7

and the new nirvana is seeing play too

[fluid garnet]

[spiral crest]

@fluid garnet Steam Breath Dragon

Dark States//Gear Chronicle

<Gear Dragon>

CONT(Hand): When paying the cost for Stride, you may discard this card as a grade 3.

ACT(Hand): If you have the Crest of "Chronojet Dragon", COST[discard this card], search your deck or drop for up to one grade 3 card with "Chronojet" in its card name, add it to your hand, and if you searched your deck, shuffle your deck.

Steam Fighter, Balih

Dark States//Gear Chronicle

<Gearoid>

CONT(RC) Generation Break 2 (This ability is active if you have two or more face up G units on your VC or your G zone): During your turn, if either players' rear-guard was put o the bottom of the deck this turn, this unit gets Power +10000.

AUTO: When this card is discarded as the cost for Stride, draw a card.

[grave cradle]

nice

[fluid garnet]

My son

[fluid garnet]

@spiral crest you don’t start with it

[grave cradle]

chrono dran just regular starter skill

but damn that's pretty good

[plush cradle]

what the fuck

[grave cradle]

Not playable

[plush cradle]

just learned its just a unplayable promo card

[grave cradle]

literally cannot be used in a fight yeah

[plush cradle]

like the not tournament legal yugioh cards we sometimes get

[grave cradle]

yep

[spiral crest]

It’s not good anyways

Putting 6 messiahs in soul is pretty hard

Especially on a 10k base

[grave cradle]

messiahs are available in every grade ^ by turn 3 thats 3 messiah

[grave cradle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/321527117181353985/1039344751108960346/image.png

Dear Days Demo on Steam

[spiral crest]

wtf

ok the controls for this are a bit weird

no idea why we cant drag and drop

[grave cradle]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/seMxRkUYT5M31-tgYTuz4LQnnkc9gKyi20dUBTf8n_8/https/i.imgflip.com/70qfah.jpg

tomorrow is Luqueer mommy.

rideline included

[spiral crest]

Chronojet.dek already making waves the first week of release

Dark states popping off

[fluid garnet]

Does it play any outside stuff besides that one gear dragon g2

[spiral crest]

yeah

brainwash swirler

idk what for though

[snow oriole]

I've never played cardfight vanguard before and got the new video game. I'm having a really hard time learning the game because the tutorial is translated like hot garbage. I'm playing an aurora battle princess deck and just got to an opponent using the idol schoolgirl tribe and I literally don't understand how they're beatable lol. they never run out of cards and just beat me through sheer numbers

anyone interested in helping me learn

[spiral crest]

I’m at lab rn but if you have any questions, feel free to post them

Also do you know which Lyrical Monestario deck in particular you’re playing vs

I’m assuming it’s Kairi but just want to make sure

Also if you have any questions on the rules, you can post that too

[snow oriole]

thank you for the offer, when I pick the game up next I'll be sure to answer. right now I remember she gets out a level 3 vanguard that has the ability to send her guards back to hand on attack

[spiral crest]

Yeah it’s kairi

Some chick with grey hair

[snow oriole]

as for the rules I do have a couple that I can probably be more specific about later. what's currently confusing me is I don't understand what allows a guard to choose to defend a vanguard. sometimes I can't do it. also not so much a rule question but I'm still wondering when and if I should choose not to attack. for example, since my vanguard can always counterattack even if it's tapped, shouldn't I always attack so long as the potential for any damage is there etc?

[spiral crest]

So you know how in prison/seraph Snow, your opponent can spend resources to summon their units out of the prison?

Every time you deal damage to your opponent, you’re giving them resources to use abilities on their following turn (counterblast)

A common thing to do vs Gravidia World is not attack before they hit grade 2 because the world order they search out costs 1 counterblast and could@lead to big damage the following turn

Also when it comes to guarding, everything can block from your hand except order cards. Units on the field can only@move to the guard circle if they’re grade 2 or have intercept

[snow oriole]

the AI isn't using any orders in their deck, but I have figured out not to attack too much so they can't free everyone and slaughter me

[spiral crest]

Yeah, counterblast is more vital than soulblast

[snow oriole]

though it feels like even if I don't they build up more resources than me lol

[spiral crest]

You have to sort of juggle your triple drive+prison effects vs their active resources

[snow oriole]

oh yeah can grades above 2 guard the center too?

[spiral crest]

Also are you playing the regular seraph snow or the grade 4 version?

[snow oriole]

I just pulled the grade 4 so that one

but I only have 1 copy and need to hard draw it afaik

[spiral crest]

Yeah, any unit card can block, just remember that only grade 2s have intercept so they’re the only ones who can attack@and@also@guard

[snow oriole]

so in that case I don't want to necessarily replace my grade 2s with 3s at the first opportunity, since grade 3s can't intercept

[spiral crest]

Correct yeah

Also having too many grade 3s can be a problem too since they have no shield value

[snow oriole]

I'm about to start hacking out attempts at this opponent again so I'll have more specific examples lol

oh yeah that's true I never noticed that's completely consistent

[spiral crest]

Yeah cfv is a simple game but there’s a lot of depth to it

It’s a numbers game at its base

[snow oriole]

I was thinking I'd try focusing this time on not doing damage at all and imprisoning and destroying guards until their hand resources are down and just go for game asap

oh also is there a rule of thumb for what to mulligan? I just shuffle back triggers

[spiral crest]

All triggers and non essential units

I usually keep in 1 persona ride target and a few g1/g2 I’d call

Some decks have different mulligan strategies though

Like stocihea decks would usually keep orders in hand so they can discard them for the ride deck

Also I forgot to mention but for your deck specifically, mull the prison away

[snow oriole]

yeah I have that g2 ride that searches it so I only run one and mull it

this is still the only deck I've played so far. I like the grind playstyle and I'm still figuring out game rules so I don't wanna switch before I know how my first deck works lmao

dunno what's good or bad in the meta, probably don't need to for AI anyway

oh another question

what possible reason would I give a trigger boost or critical to backrow? isn't the former effectively the same on the frontrow and the latter completely nullified on backrow?

[spiral crest]

Some cards can attack from the back row or have effects that restand them to boost again

There’s also the metagaming approach where you don’t want a specific unit to hit their vanguard so you give the power to something else so the attack doesn’t go through

[grave cradle]

I can also give some advice if needed

[snow oriole]

bah I just got my ass beat again. I just don't understand how I'm supposed to counter their deck. I wish I could provide a replay but the best I can do is screenshots of certain game states. I took some

here I was trying to do minimal damage while imprisoning them so they couldn't just pay to get them out. but they attack so much and get so many drive checks that they keep building up cards while I lose more and more from defending. so it doesn't matter if I imprison them, she just gets more out

already can't defend against this and then next turn....

her card economy basically doubles so I lose

this feels like every match I have

I also have to high roll every vanguard attack it seems because I can't risk a critical trigger

I beat every opponent before this one my first try but I've been stuck on this for over a day

[spiral crest]

Are you getting the triple drive every turn?

For your grade 3 or 4?

Also are you guarding every attack that comes to you or are you letting select ones through?

[snow oriole]

typically I try to let attacks go through until it would put it me in range of a critical trigger, so until I get to 3 basically

matches usually end before I can use the triple drive more than once or twice

[brave kindle]

I don't have any specific advice to offer since I stopped playing early on at the start of D but at its core Vanguard is a numbers game

Guarding with more than necessary, guarding attacks unnecessarily, not commiting enough boosters, etc, are easy ways to throw away wins

[snow oriole]

I understand that in theory but in practice I don't know which actions I'm taking are unnecessary

I got pretty close to winning just now but they had sentinels in hand from their stockpiled card advantage so I couldn't seal the deal. feels like everything I do has a defense against it lmao

[snow oriole]

wow this time I had a chance to win and decked out during attack

[snow oriole]

I had 2 g2s in a column but I wasn't able to use assist attack from the back one. is there a reason for this? they have no effects preventing it and they're both vertical

[brave kindle]

G2 have intercept, not boost, by default

They can be given boost but most decks don't do that

[snow oriole]

oh I see, I didn't realize boosting was a skill lol. thought it was an inherent mechanic

thank you

finally beat her. I went back to the basic seraph SD since I didn't trust my own deckbuilding and after a few more tries I just barely won. I still feel like it came down to what drive checks happened

[brave kindle]

that's Vanguard for ya

[snow oriole]

yeah, at least I prob got to where that's possible due to you guys helping me with the rules

I'm still wondering if that was a particularly bad deck type matchup because it felt like it to me

[spiral crest]

I’d have to see but Seraph Snow wasn’t meta til the grade 4 version came out so it might just be the deck

[sharp forum]

what also helps Seraph Snow is that G2 that puts card from top of opponent's deck to prison

[spiral crest]

Yeah she’s really good

[sharp forum]

sadly in paper Vanguard it's promo for us that don't live in Japan

[spiral crest]

Shame set 7 and 8 are so far off in the game

Some pretty cool decks in those

[snow oriole]

g4 seraph and that g2 are both in the game at least

what makes the g2 one so good as opposed to effects that imprison stuff on field or hand

[brave kindle]

well, you can always guarantee your opponent has a card in deck to put into prison(and it could even be a trigger that you didn't want them to flip)

[snow oriole]

isn't it just as likely that the card after that is a trigger that you just got them close to

the field rarely seems empty too from my limited experience

[spiral crest]

@fluid garnet #JetSweep

[fluid garnet]

[snow oriole]

I've gotten a few cards now that are triggers without any description. like until now I've had all front triggers that boost the entire front row. will a default one only boost one card? I'm guessing the game just started me out with powercreep triggers, it's just surprising since usually they'd start you with the weaker shit

[spiral crest]

triggers have different effects, all the other ones will only boost 1 unit, front's ability is to just boost the front row

fronts are usually meh though

[snow oriole]

hmm I'm still confused lemme screenshot

what's the diff between these two if the first one also boosts the whole front row? I'm prob misreading you though

[spiral crest]

nothing, they just have different names is all

they're both vanilla triggers

[fluid garnet]

the second just has reminder text

[snow oriole]

lol that's tripping me out

thanks

[fluid garnet]

starter deck cards generally have more reminder text and such

[snow oriole]

so if a trigger has no description they all default to this right:

draw: 10k, draw card
heal: 10k, heal 1 only if youre equally or more damaged than opponent
front: front row gets 10k
critical: 10k and crit +1

these are always there unless specified otherwise?

[spiral crest]

yeah

[snow oriole]

I thought for a moment heal triggers with no description can heal whenever but have no attack boost

thank you!

btw I was wondering what the history with lyrical monasterio was. they're a late addition or something? in-game there's packs containing every nation but theirs for a while, then they have multiple packs where they're the only nation. they seem to have the most cards by the end by far but I haven't counted precisely

[spiral crest]

before the reboot, there was a clan called bermuda triangle which got its own packs

when they did the reboot and bundled every clan into a nation, bermuda got split off to become lyrical monestario

so it's just a continuation of that basically

[snow oriole]

oh I had no idea there was ever a reboot

[spiral crest]

yeah this is the 2nd reboot

in the format where all cards are allowed, lyrical monestario cards can go into any bermuda triangle deck

[snow oriole]

interesting

I wonder if the pre-reboot cards are in the game. prob not

[spiral crest]

apparently the data for V series cards (the 1st reboot) is in the game

but I have no idea if it will ever be playable

[snow oriole]

I saw there's dlc packs ahead but it would be weird to sell old cards before new ones. I just assume most would be powercrept and not added complexity but I don't know

oh yeah going back a bit, do you recommend me not running front triggers in general? I could add more draws or heals

[spiral crest]

depends entirely on the deck

[snow oriole]

right now I'm building kairi for instance. but I do have Eileen to control my triggers to a degree

that effect seems nuts btw lol

[spiral crest]

some decks like it (Nirvana-esq decks) and other decks don't (magnolia)

I don't remember if kairi runs fronts

is the grade 4 version in the game

or are you on the grade 3 version

cause I know the g4 version was meta at one point

[snow oriole]

grade 3. if there's a grade 4 I haven't seen it yet

I might be asking too many broad questions but is there any rule of thumb regarding ratios in vanguard? am I generally gonna top out at 4 for all my cards and triggers similar to ygo? perhaps moreso because your single copies could become drive drops or soul

[spiral crest]

you have the right idea basically

max out on your important cards and minimal ratios for everything that is searchable/tech

so stuff you'd play at 1 is like the prison

but you'd max out on 4 of the red girl whose name I forget

[fluid garnet]

the main exceptions would be like

[snow oriole]

oh the g0? she was in my ride deck so I was actually doing the opposite, running 1

[fluid garnet]

highlander stuff

[spiral crest]

not the grade 0

the one which on call soulblasts 1 to imprison something

[fluid garnet]

there's like

[spiral crest]

then if 3 or more are in prison, gain 5k power and shield

[fluid garnet]

2-3 rideline cards total you max out on

[spiral crest]

also stuff like trickstar and vairina are cards with questionable ratios

[fluid garnet]

obv not counting the grade 3s

[snow oriole]

oh you were talking about about Brandt I didn't realize

[spiral crest]

yeah I havent played lyrical enough tto know all of their cards

[snow oriole]

do I run 4 copies of grade 4s too? I'd be worried about bricking

[fluid garnet]

yes

though most grade 4 decks only play the 1 g3 for the ride deck

bastion being the immediate big exception

[snow oriole]

naruhodo. that makes sense, go for the persona ride g4 instead of hoping for the persona ride on g3

thanks for the help guys btw

[snow oriole]

holy crap there is a g4 kairi in the game

so I run that at 4 no question?

[spiral crest]

yeah

[snow oriole]

thanks

btw it sounds like you have the game, would you be interested in playing sometime

boy it's unfortunate that getting 4 g4s for two decks will take an eternity

[spiral crest]

I don't have the game, I just play irl

I also know what set it stops at

[snow oriole]

oh yeah I just remembered two other questions. are there any new prisons ever introduced? the cards seem worded in a future proof way (take notice konami) to allow it but I've only seen the basic one. also did they ever make an aurora battle princess themed over trigger

ah. yeah I actually had no idea vanguard had printed English cards until I googled some for this game

[spiral crest]

no to both

we're probably close to getting on though

prison*

[brave kindle]

Tbh Dear Days is like

From what I've seen of it I have 0 idea how any longterm fan can justify buying it

I'm convinced they set it up to have poor sales and then are going to use it as justification to not import future games from Jp

[snow oriole]

yeah they really set it up for failure

huge opportunity to get more of a western fanbase so what do you do

gatekeep by making the base game $70 so anyone taking a risk has to pay extra to do so, then make the DLC so expensive that it makes headlines and everyone is disincentivized to buy it even further

and then if you somehow cross both those hurdles as a prospecting player, you have to learn from the world's worst tutorial

i think the top steam review is someone saying they refunded the game because of the tutorial

tbh it takes some gonads to ask for $70 for a niche game then you cant spend pennies to get someone to translate 50 lines

[spiral crest]

yeah they went the worst way about it

[snow oriole]

reminds me of the rush duel game. announce game one week before it comes out, charge full price for something no one knows, give it 0 marketing, and then when the game somehow flops use that as an excuse to fuck over the supporters and not release all content

at least in dear days theyre already selling the entire dlc packs. i think it would be completely illegal for them to go back on that now

granted this still doesnt bode well for future localizations

and like, the game is really not bad. but im desperate for any tcg video games. i can't actually excuse the way they went about it

[snow oriole]

@frosty ether btw. didn't know if you were aware of this channel

[spiral crest]

Pink Moth Girl, Maple

Stoicheia/Keter Sanctuary/Insect

AUTO, Drop: When your G3 or greater vanguard is placed during the Ride Phase, if you Persona Rode this turn, and do not have a "Pink Moth Girl, Maple" on your RC, you may call this card to RC. If you called, this unit gets power plus 5k. Glitter - Thegrea:

AUTO, Backrow RC: When your unit in the same column as this unit Stands, you may Stand this unit. If you Stand, retire this unit at the end of this turn.

idk why thegra gets so much love but the new maple seems like another keter staple

OG maple is already on her 50th buyout and it has been like 6-7 months since her set dropped

[grave cradle]

doesnt work with thegrea, ironically

[spiral crest]

this card is also very nice

probs an auto 1 of in every deck that can play it

[snow oriole]

wow you dont even need another copy of the vanguard to persona ride with that? sounds nutty

[grave cradle]

4th persona ride target

[shadow moat]

I am tempted to get into Vanguard

How do I start?

[spiral crest]

You can pick a trial deck and upgrade it or you can just pick out a ride line and build a deck based on it

Do you have a locals near you or are you looking to play the game through the new game that came out

[shadow moat]

There's a new game?

[brave kindle]

yes but its... not great

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1881420/Cardfight_Vanguard_Dear_Days/

Steam

Cardfight!! Vanguard Dear Days

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Price

$69.99

Recommendations

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$70

[shadow moat]

Wouldn't try it unless free amyways

They do have a sim right?

[spiral crest]

That is the sim

There’s a demo version on steam but it’s only 2 games

[shadow moat]

Damn

No online sim?

[spiral crest]

There’s like a ghetto equivalent of Dueling Book called card fight area but the controls are a bit wonky

[grave cradle]

a bit wonky? nah very wonky

Oh btw maelstrom rideline got revealed today, buy inlet pulse

[spiral crest]

Yeah, it seems ok but flagburg has so much support for it that it seems better by default

The messiah SD has the same clause as chronojet so you can use your old nice looking copies

[grave cradle]

wait it does?

[spiral crest]

Yeah

Oh wait, my translation guy is saying it’s probably going to be the same, not that it’s confirmed to be

My b

[grave cradle]

bad misinformation

[spiral crest]

@snow oriole ok so funny thing about that Lyrical deck you faced in Dear Days. Apparently it’s randomly buffed in the game by allowing you to call both cards to the front row. In the actual game, it has to@be different rows

[snow oriole]

what the fuck

just for them?

does their version of kairi even say that

[brave kindle]

Lmao no

Its $70 base and then paid dlc on top to lock future sets

Artifact? Oh that Valve game

I associate that name with.. something else

[grave cradle]

its not worth the price

[shadow moat]

So uhh

What's a good trial deck

[snow oriole]

im enjoying it but im a crazy person who loves tcg video games. i think theres no justifying the price no matter how good it is. and the shadowverse switch game is still superior for instance. there's also the expensive dlc too. i dont regret buying it but i am very upset about it

[grave cradle]

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0411/6840/4639/products/D-Start-Deck-06-Mirei-Minae-Sealed-Blaze-Maiden_387x.jpg?v=1640122818

get mirei

[shadow moat]

Without paying money where can I play?

Is it really just one wonky sim?

[snow oriole]

yeah i think so

btw apparently import prices are lower

also there will be card pack dlc into spring of next year but i think after that the game will no longer be updated

i think theyre selling it more on the single player experience

[spiral crest]

@fluid garnet jet still running rampant

[fluid garnet]

Swirler is inescapable

[snow oriole]

not the second part

[shadow moat]

But where can I learn to play?

[sharp forum]

I know this might seem random honestly I feel that video game and mobile versions of TCGs should have system that doesn't punish from losing so that games don't last too long because of one player not wanting to give up

and yeah I would say that forcing draw is part of that

[grave cradle]

card shop

[snow oriole]

alternatively, bashing your head against a wall and asking for help here

[brave kindle]

how good is Bruce right now? I still have my unfinished Bruce Deck right here

[spiral crest]

still quite good

shows up every so often because it got a pretty good card

[snow oriole]

i was eyeing new archetypes to try in DD. what is the goal of the steam cards?

also i think ive settled on my variant for seraph. i like using tazer lage and aurora princess turquoise or whatever to stun everything that's freed from the prison. i have that g3 that can get a critical boost if you have 5 imprisoned too to help close out games. it works pretty well since even if you can't get control of the tempo you can at least lower the value of anything they bring back. pretty fun

no, the steam archetype of cards in vanguard

yeah i can see how that would be confusing

yeah i dont see why it would. feels like a standalone game to me like yugioh used to do

it's being sold on the basis of its single player campaign

[spiral crest]

steam cards dont have a rideline in D series yet

they're just support for other decks

[snow oriole]

what fits them best?

[spiral crest]

idk off the top of my head but I think bruce had the most steam maiden generics

but I can't remember

it's either bruce or baromagnes

[snow oriole]

wow that's quite a coincidence given baku just asked about bruce lmao

i havent touched that nation at all yet

[spiral crest]

I find most of the nations fun

dark states main gimmick is putting cards in the soul and doing stuff with it

[grave cradle]

unless you are chronojet

[snow oriole]

i generally like control strats so anything of that nature i'd be interested to hear about

or just creative effects and interactions

[snow oriole]

how many meteors should I run in gravidia

[spiral crest]

8

[snow oriole]

thanks! does that include falling hellhazard

[spiral crest]

No, that’s just neatness. Post set 7, you go down to 6 neatness

[snow oriole]

neatness? not familiar with that term

[spiral crest]

Neatness Meteor shower is the meteor that lets you play any number of it in the deck

[snow oriole]

oh okay

well is hellhazard worth running in your opinion

[snow oriole]

should I care about what I use to pay soul if I can't interact with my drop or don't need a specific card in my soul for an effect? those are the only situations it's relevant right

[spiral crest]

hellhazard is an auto 4 of

card makes gravidia so much faster

and yeah you shouldn't care unless vs specific decks

[snow oriole]

how often is it actually prudent to kill rear guards instead of hitting vanguards? I sometimes do this in seraph to not give them too many resources but that's rare. maybe I'm doing things wrong

[spiral crest]

Happens a fair bit

Varies from deck to deck

1 counterblast is the difference between winning and losing sometimes

[snow oriole]

that's probably a matter of me not knowing a lot of deck strategies then

thanks

I've been doing super well with seraph lately but I'm still very in the dark about other play styles

have done kairi for a bit, that's basically it

wow eldobreath looks completely insane compared to other over triggers I've seen

[spiral crest]

@west lion it took a million years but we're finally getting a mecha deck in vg

standard*

the usual. Robots waifus and furries

@fluid garnet lmaoooooooooooooooo

they nerfed gear after a month

[fluid garnet]

how'd they do it

[spiral crest]

you have to have the 3 cards on the left in your ride deck in order to have a g zone

[fluid garnet]

oh

wtf were people doing

[spiral crest]

you'd either run the baromagnes or dragjewel ride line

and just go plus

also sort of related

but monster strike got nerfed as well, mag and bastion unhit now

[fluid garnet]

pogu

[spiral crest]

also this is a thing apparently

I know the one ont he far right is a gear chronicle unit

idk what the rest are

[snow oriole]

a mecha deck

no way it's getting into DD

oh well I'm sure it'll be in the next game... haha......

[brave kindle]

why does the furry line boss look like Edgeworth

[grave cradle]

Note these had a line on the video that said something about an unit on a meteor and his name is -- (cuts out)

So speculation is that these are going to be some kind of evil invaders

there was another unit missing from the picture

[west lion]

[static spire]

Damn, othertcgs has fallen this down.

Anyway, I have acquired Dear Days.

Do you guys have any recos that isn't too costly to build that can coast thru story mode?

[static spire]

Got the starter decks but feel like they are gonna be ass to upgrade since they are split into diff sets. One of the Glitter decks from Set 5 could be neat. Thinking on either Eva or Thegrea.

[spiral crest]

thegrea is good too

[grave cradle]

play lyrical

[static spire]

No.

Going with Thegrea. Let's prayge I even pull good.

[grave cradle]

ok

[static spire]

Pulled 1 Dark Thegrea and realized a fatal flaw in my plan in that I need to craft twice as many RRRs for Thegrea to even get going, same with Eva tho I could get away with fewer Obscudeid.

[honest night]

I have no idea how people defend this list by saying 'JP players don't play V or P'

Doesn't mean you just completely ignore them

[spiral crest]

They’re finally have a big premium tournament next year lol

It’s crazy how forgiving this community is towards this company

[honest night]

What card does Grav get to let us cut to 6

[spiral crest]

The rusher guy

That summons itself from drop

I might be off on the meteor ratio count

I think it’s called combine rusher

It’s summons itself whenever you place a set order

And gains 10k when it attacks or something

[honest night]

Maybe because EN players don't care about JP either

[honest night]

It only triggers on attacking a g3 and if you have 2 or more sets

I dont see how Grav uses this and what justifies cutting to 6 Neatness?

[honest night]

CFV fans are also some of the biggest shills I've ever seen

But maybe its just AssaultRider doing it

[spiral crest]

Grav has the issue of not having enough rearguards to pressure the opponent. Rusher gives the deck a reoccurring rearguard threat and cuts down on bricks

Im probably wrong on the count of meteors, it might be 8 but combine is really vital for the deck

Especially in the mirror

[honest night]

Would it make the deck too CB heavy?

I personally haven't seen any Grav cards worth putting in the deck past DBT04

Also funny thing

I think Inlet coming back makes the Magnolia matchup for Grav go from heavily favored

To losing

[spiral crest]

It’s not CB heavy, you only spend CB on Gravidia and snake usually

Japanese lists have been playing combine since DBT06 dropped

[honest night]

I'll try it out when I'm able to get them

Whats the ratio?

[honest night]

Snake? As in Bacubirito?

Because that uses SB

[spiral crest]

Yeah that one, mixed it up

[snow oriole]

play seraph like me

i do best with it actually but it's also the one I've played the most by far

I'm recently trying random shit

[grave cradle]

K already said their opinions on seraph tho

[honest night]

Combine Rushers are $25 SGD each

[snow oriole]

I didn't see it

[grave cradle]

^

[snow oriole]

isn't every deck split across multiple sets, not just the SDs

[snow oriole]

i just noticed there's a sentinel card that can be used in all nations as a 1 of

what's that about

very strange

[spiral crest]

It’s a generic intent on holding back the power of g4s in standard

[static spire]

The SD's support seems to be in Sets 1-4. Game is upto Set 5, so those decks only needs those and the promos which is nice.

[static spire]

Pulled a lot of Tamayura. So, concentrating on that and Eva first. Don't particularly care for Keios. And I had shit luck on Plant boy. So, for now these 2 + Thegrea is current priority.

Also man, this story is mega 💤.

[snow oriole]

the story gets a little better

but the translation doesn't help

no lose intended!!!

[static spire]

Tamayura is going decently well. All I want to say is Fuck Lyrical Monestario as a whole.

The amount of numbers/crits they sack have been unreal.

[honest night]

Inlet reprint when Bushiroad

Please

It is a 4 of staple in every Stoicheia deck and is a RRR

Please

[snow oriole]

I'm enjoying vanguard but I have to admit that I personally loathe the concept of triggers. for an avoidable luck element they're also obscenely strong. pacing your card economy properly and then the opponent sacks two crits makes me want to fucking die I hate it

it goes down even worse in a video game because you can never be sure if the AI is literally cheating or not. it sure feels like it but confirmation bias be a thing

if it were just humans you could maybe laugh at the absurdity but

[static spire]

It's mostly fine on an "average turn", but early crits or double crits at random or overtriggers in general just make me hate the game so much, each time it happens.

The AI does cheat in the second half of the game, with them having their own DSkills, afaik.

[snow oriole]

yeah I recently ran across a guy who has a skill to get over triggers so that's really fun

I got a skill to increase VP so that's never coming off even if it makes the cheating harder to counteract

[static spire]

After getting the disable opponent's DSkill one, I haven't removed it since. Rather just zoom past all the bullshit.

[snow oriole]

lol that sounds great

I don't think I've gotten that yet

I'm still at the part where my skills are turned off but I think I'm almost at the end of it after the onslaught of anime cameos

[brave kindle]

I think the triggers are what make Vanguard at least tolerable when it comes to interaction

some of my favorite decks are decks like God Hand & Hexoorb which manipulate triggers in fun and interesting ways

[spiral crest]

#ChronojetSweep

[honest night]

So what your telling me

Is that the series meant to deviate from the OG series

Has the top 4 decks consist of 3 crossovers

[spiral crest]

[honest night]

God I hate this timeline

Mind you

2 of these decks can only be acquired through purchasing exclusive product

[brave kindle]

D series has been a clusterfuck this whole time and I'm glad I stopped playing a lot of the times

[fluid garnet]

@spiral crest they’re gonna have to like

Choice restrict Swirler and Jet

Since they can’t really hit the chronojet cards themselves

[spiral crest]

Roy Puckett https://youtu.be/f4ZuO0cE_QE

Didn’t even know orfist won an event on our side

[snow oriole]

how do I tell which monasterio cards count as ghosts? I don't see anything

[spiral crest]

should be under the nation tag in the bottom

[snow oriole]

yep

thank you

wow that is almost completely unreadable on switch

[mortal hawk]

Well, been playing Dear Days and Emmeline is crazy in PBO

[grave cradle]

New rideline teased further, this is a support RG known as Dragontree Descendant, Draco Vatical

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725584510892113952/1052920541239058513/image.png

Grade 1 | Normal Unit | Dragon Empire - Hydragrum
[Power] 8000
[Shield] 5000
[AUTO]: When this unit is placed on (RC), COST [Counter Blast (1)], choose one of your (RC) without a Dragontree marker, and put a Dragontree marker on that circle.
AUTO:[1/Turn]: When your opponent's rear-guard is retired during your main phase, COST [Soul Blast (1)], look at the top five cards of your deck, choose up to one grade 1 or less unit card from among them, call it to (RC), and shuffle your deck.

explanation on what a dragon tree marker is

[snow oriole]

what's pbo

[static spire]

Phantom Blaster Overlord

[grave cradle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725584510892113952/1053180930812022846/vgd_today1216_7787j52011j569.png

For all your multi attacking stoicheia decks that can swing six times

[snow oriole]

which archetypes focus on disruption similar to seraph rather than aggro?

[spiral crest]

Not many off the top of my head

[honest night]

P Link Joker

[static spire]

This says a lot about soceity.

Not sure why it says 7 Crit on Gravidia, pretty sure it was 8 when the checks ended.

[grave cradle]

Promos for products

[spiral crest]

They actually fixed the deck in just 2 cards

Insane

Might actually be able to compete vs the magnificent 3

[honest night]

Well this is funny

The best deck in VG is somehow more expensive than the best deck in YGO

[spiral crest]

it's not

the deck you're reffering to is youthberg and it's not the best deck

[brave kindle]

what is the best deck in d format rn?

[spiral crest]

depends who you ask but it's between nirvana mahar and gravidia

[brave kindle]

is Chronojet good at all?

[spiral crest]

chronojet isnt out yet but yeah it's good

instant tier 1 on release

[honest night]

I've never heard anyone say that Grav is the best deck

I've heard that it's good

But not that good

[spiral crest]

Gravidia has been the in contention for top 2 deck of the format since it got the 2nd meteor

And it majority of the reason standard’s meta has been so fucked

[honest night]

Are you talking about EN format?

[spiral crest]

Both formats

It was competiting with magnolia for a bit

But then they shot that in the head

Rearguard decks just can’t exist because meteors are so easy to shit out

And the deck only gets better each passing set

[honest night]

I would hope that a deck gets better each set

And in my experience G4 Mag absolutely shat on Grav when they had Inlet Pulse

[spiral crest]

Magnolia was a special case because they had to print a rearguard that makes everything hex proof just for the game to be playable

Inlet pulse wasn’t what made the matchup favorable, it was the fox

But tbh now, grav is better with combine

It now has continuous rearguard pressure it didn’t have before

[honest night]

Inlet was a big difference maker in making the fox great against Grav though

Because you could get a massively aggressive attack and not get punished for it

And now G4 Mag is on the cusp of being viable again in JP with Inlet coming back

[spiral crest]

I think it simply got powercrept out of tier 1

A lot of new decks have popped up since it’s death that can give it a run for its money

Youthberg and the 2 standout Lyrucal decks from the 3rd lyrical set for instance

And then whenever we get that dragon dungeon colab booster and chrinojet set

[snow oriole]

if grav didnt have the double trigger effect would it be as oppressive

[spiral crest]

It would be a lot weaker

But the main issue are the meteor retiring units for freedom

[snow oriole]

oh I c

ive been trying other variants of seraph bc it's still the most fun I have with any archetype. I recently built one that just aggressively tries to deck out the opponent and it seems to do even better than my normal one. the grade 3 that imprisons a card from hand seems pretty good

[snow oriole]

what's freedom? sorry, I thought it might be a card but it didn't show up in DD. might not be in though

[spiral crest]

meant free but phone autocorrected to freedom for some reason

[spiral crest]

https://vg-paradox.com/?fbclid=IwAR1pj57Xzh0W4-4Yia9cVZTXeJ9iseErEzkySrk16v8h5_ZmvmErDz01cI8

apparently this just got released today to cover topping decks

[grave cradle]

Just a normal G1, nothing to see here

[grave cradle]

It's not like we saw the same marker in a different nation

[west lion]

Idk what a dragon tree marker is

[grave cradle]

click the quote, it explains dragontree marker in the image below

[west lion]

Seems pretty good

[grave cradle]

cover unit was seen with these guys in the trailer

but different nations so ya know, you "totally cant play them in the same deck". || This is Glendios D style isn't it?||

[west lion]

So like is overdress the more popular format?

I'm gonna assume that's a yes

Gonna have to look into the rules a bit more cause last time I played was... I wanna say g series shadow paladins

Iirc overdress isn't too expensive to play unless you wanna play like

Gear chronicle

[spiral crest]

overdress is the most popular yeah

because it's the flagship format for the game

[sharp forum]

Premium is also popular for obvious reason but barely anyone cares about V Premium

[snow oriole]

any tips for playing cardinal

[grave cradle]

which orfist you on?

[snow oriole]

i actually dont know which i should be using. they both appear to have strong effects. should i run two different builds for each? is a hybrid even an option?

[sharp forum]

not really

decks in standard tend to be focused on that chosen ride line for a reason

[grave cradle]

they meant for Orfist ^

like running both Orfist in 1 deck

[sharp forum]

oh yeah you can totally do that and it won't hurt deck's strat

[honest night]

FINALLY

A GOOD GRAV CARD

THATS NOT IN DBT04

[spiral crest]

it's cracked too

[honest night]

This pretty much confirms that new Nordlinger will have at least something to do with triggers

And Im 100% buying a playset when it drops

[spiral crest]

idk if we are getting a new nordlinger

I think it's just futureproofing

I think it's just to help the currrent gravidia boss to proc the double trigger effect more often

[honest night]

Fair but

You cant blame me for thinking the bottom image would be a new nordlinger

The resemblance is uncanny

[grave cradle]

The invasion continues

this is a LOT of counterblast

[grave cradle]

reminder on dragontree marker

[spiral crest]

Is this a stocheia card? If so, this is a really good generic

[grave cradle]

yes this is stoicheia

but its like stoicheia BUT the deck its meant for wont be stoicheia

[spiral crest]

Yeah I get that it’s going to be a pile deck

But as a stand-alone card, it’s quite good

Both effects are good generically so it might see play in other decks

[grave cradle]

genuinely curious how they are gonna make dragon trees work, so much counterblast in these 3 alone

[spiral crest]

their boss might just reduce the cost of all cards that place markers

and make them be able to target rc with markers already on them

[grave cradle]

I agree on the first, at least written in a way that it only applies to the marker placing ability

maybe something like "when you place a dragontree marker, countercharge 1"

and I think for the pay off, something depending on how many dragontree markers you have (up to 5 which has something really rewarding)

[honest night]

God

I hate it whenever Bushi does this 'All nations' or 'All worlds' thing

Its either hot gimmicky garbage

Or it breaks the game

[mortal hawk]

Petrarca would be fun to see in Dear Days.

[mortal hawk]

As a Buddyfight survivor, I know where you’re coming from.

[grave cradle]

gyze 2

[brave kindle]

The Chaos be like

[grave cradle]

Lost World

and time dragons

[spiral crest]

I think we’re back to 0 hits in standard

[grave cradle]

its fine because Magnolia doesnt need Inlet anymore

[spiral crest]

It will probably still play it but I don’t think the deck is good enough anymore once the big 3 settle here in the coming sets

Chronojet is going to break this format wide open

[honest night]

Again

The format made to distance itself from the other eras

Has 2 top decks be crossovers from other eras

And 1 top deck be a crossover with another IP

[static spire]

Done with Deardays.

Do we have a date on when Set 6 drops in game?

[static spire]

Not really.

[mortal hawk]

Yep. Ace was the moment I went “Aside from Hero, Dungeon and Magic world, I’m done.

[brave kindle]

I liked most of Ace's decks conceptually but the powercreep was off the charts

I just wish we got like, an actually good wizard deck for Magic World

we got basically everything except a spellslinger esche deck

magic guitarists/magic demons/magic shadows/ they all bored me

[honest night]

Anyone remember when Ancient World was the hot stuff

[grave cradle]

yup

[brave kindle]

Darkness Dragon World used to be special man

same with Star

they both were shown in the anime like these super special hyper unique worlds

[brave kindle]

I don't think it was but I didn't follow the bf meta too much

[grave cradle]

it was for awhile

it got a rebuddy variant also

the noticeable upgrade is overkill can equip ALL while milling 7 (versus mill 5 equip 3)

and the equip any number happens while in the buddy zone

[spiral crest]

Genesis dragon Amnesty Messiah
G4/ POWER: 15000+/ GUARD: 0
<Stride>-Stride step-[Cost]{DIscard
1 or more cards from hadn with total
Grade of 3 and above}
Auto: When this unit attacks,
[Cost]{CB1, flip 1 Gzone face up},
Choose any amount of Locked
cards from either player's field,
unlock it. Choose 1 of your RG,
during this turn it gets POWER
+5000 for each card unlocked by
this ability.

[silver sonnet]

Cost Down

Effect

Discard 1 card; for the rest of this turn, reduce the Levels of all monsters in your hand by 2 (even after they are Summoned).

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG)

F.A. Auto Navigator

Level: 1
[ Machine / Tuner / Effect ]

ATK 0 / DEF 0

Effect

If this card is in your hand or GY: You can target 1 "F.A." monster you control whose current Level is higher than its original Level; Special Summon this card, and if you do, reduce that target's Level by the difference between its current and original Level, and if you do that, this card's Level become equal to the amount reduced. If this card is Normal or Special Summoned: You can add 1 "F.A." Field Spell from your Deck to your hand. You can only use each effect of "F.A. Auto Navigator" once per turn.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG)

[grave cradle]

😮 Oh they revealed a messiah card from the deckset?

[spiral crest]

the g3 messiah is also the same as the original one

[spiral crest]

Didn’t even realize Messiah also has a crest and it’s just as unbalanced as chronojet’s

Whelp

[honest night]

D Series

A way to set the series aside from the OG series

I swear

[spiral crest]

If messiah ends up on the same level as jet then D is done for

Powercreep is already way too high and it’s clear they haven’t learned anything

[honest night]

I pin the blame on Set 4

[static spire]

Can't wait for Vanguard 4.

Gonna go and use the rest of the alphabet with reboots at this rate.

[grave cradle]

cards from the stream

[grave cradle]

Wake up, thursday revealed new rideline that will have you watering a single token

[snow oriole]

naturia?

[grave cradle]

reverse beauty and the beast

[honest night]

Did someone say

REPRINTS?

[spiral crest]

D is continuing until 9 anime seasons

[mortal hawk]

Also, looks like characters from Will Dress will be added to Dear days in Febuary.

[mortal hawk]

And I’m gonna be the basic guy who wants Luticia and Kyouka to get promos

[brave kindle]

well at least Bushi is trying to be upfront with series length...?

not sure if the game will even exist by 2025 the way its currently going tbh

[mortal hawk]

Standard will probably be the last one to fall.

[brave kindle]

I haven't been following standard at all because the same issues I had with V cropped up literally in set 2-3 and I just do not trust Bushiroad anymore to actually balance their cards

the $70 video game kinda cemented my descion tbh

[brave kindle]

the D Series anime's biggest issue is they focused on the exact opposite things they should have

I legit do not remember any of the characters names even before talking about their traits

idrc if they wanted to focus on slice of life but they butchered the character development hard regardless

that's just Bushiroad they contract VAs and have them do one off characters or different ones all the time

Yuyu is the same VA as Gaito from Buddyfight

it is 100% the same VA

I can hear "impact call!" in literally every single one of Yuyus lines

Bushi has done voice tuning for voices that need to sound different (like with robots for example)

I wish the first season was available subbed

for some reason its lost media now

[sharp forum]

yeah it used to be on they Buddyfight YT channel for free but for some reason they took those down

[brave kindle]

I know Hundred had some issues with the dub

something about bad working conditions and a worker strike causing the dub to never be finished

[brave kindle]

ngl Buddyfight's dub is actually surprisingly decent but I feel like its only cause Bushiroad went out of their way to keep everything as close as possible (down to the JP bands performing openings in EN)

[spiral crest]

ok now we're getting good stuff

if new bruce stays at current translation

this makes it a 18k vg on opponent's turn

[grave cradle]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/UGGxQBz0ZUEef8VpGun6GrAJuisEjUdCJs-NogDkjOo/%3Fcb%3D20230110025914/https/static.wikia.nocookie.net/cardfight/images/e/ed/D-BT09-053-R_%2528Sample%2529.png/revision/latest

Farmin Pumpkin

ACT1/Turn:If you have a vanguard with "Granfia" in its card name, COST [Soul Blast (1)], call a Plant token to (RC). If your vanguard is grade 3 or greater, call up to two instead of one. (Plant tokens are grade 0/[Power]5000/[Critical] 1 and have boost)

[silver sonnet]

Contact

Effect

Send all "Chrysalis" monsters you control to the Graveyard, and Special Summon 1 monster from your hand or Deck that is written in the card text of those cards.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG)

Ritual Beast's Bond

Effect

Banish 2 "Ritual Beast" monsters you control; Special Summon 1 "Ritual Beast" monster from your Extra Deck, ignoring its Summoning conditions.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG)

Gaia Power

Effect

Increase the ATK of all EARTH monsters by 500 points and decrease their DEF by 400 points.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG)

C/C Critical Eye

Level: 3
[ Fiend / Effect ]

ATK 1400 / DEF 1000

Effect

If this card is used as a Material for a Fusion, Synchro, or Xyz Summon, the other Material(s) must be a monster(s) you do not control.

(Anime/Manga/Game Exclusive)

[grave cradle]

😠

[snow oriole]

what specific issues? I'm new to the game so

[brave kindle]

-decks being expensive due to almost entirely VR/RRR
-Promos that are required for decks(and hard to obtain)
-decks that are already good or are featured in the anime get pushed support while decks not so get sidelined and maybe thrown a bone once a year if at that
-too heavy focus on archetypal names means half of the generic support for your clan/nation means jack shit unless it does X thing the deck wanrs

like, what was the point in making nations a thing if literally the first set had mechanics like "Final Rush" that are only for 1 deck

[spiral crest]

Having specific mechanics like final rush is fine but it’s pretty telling when they start releasing nations generics 6 sets after the first D series set came out

It’s an absolute joke

Also standard should not have grade 4 bosses yet, game is too new

[sharp forum]

clearly they focus is on ride lines and I don't see anything wrong with it

they should be focus on some themes rather than trying to give support to everything

[brave kindle]

I would rather they ditch lines entirely and focus on making decks more generic in a effort to make deckbuilding more interesting than "shove all the rrrs of x deck into one deck then adjust techs of deck as needed"

[static spire]

Focusing on themes is fine.

[brave kindle]

cause that's what deckbuilding has been for awhile

[static spire]

But the lack of generics just means none of your deck is transferable.

Which discourages maintaining more decks and brings it much closer to being like clans. Ideally atleast 10-20 of your lineup should be transferable so it doesn't feel as awful.

[brave kindle]

like Vanguard is legit the only TCG where a deck pretty much builds itself

the only difference tends to be techs in orders and occasional 1 ofs

[static spire]

Keter piles have been fine. But most decks are just cards made for X ride deck and nothing else.

There's like 1-2 cards maybe that are good enough and actually go into multiple decks per nation.

[brave kindle]

that and Vanguards lack of interaction on your opponents turn is what eventually made me drop it

game isn't bad its just....not fun to play

and hasn't been for awhile

[spiral crest]

Ban the OT, print more generic nation cards, and make better defensive options and standard would be great

The company is just so incredibly incompetent that they can’t figure any of these out

So instead of finally figuring out how to run a game after 2 reboots, we’re stuck in the same problems that plagued the previous 2 generations of the game

[sharp forum]

each of they own but personally I find current Vanguard to be more enjoyable to play than modern YGO but that's just my opinion

[brave kindle]

I wouldn't compare Yugioh to Vanguard personally

they both have their problems, I think Vanguard is worse off in that regard

[sharp forum]

look I agree that both have they problems but that was just my personal opinion so if any one has problem with then I can't do anything about that

[brave kindle]

I'll admit I haven't touched the game in awhile but I lurk places like r/cardfightvanguard & watch the occasional video when it gets reccomended to me, and the longer I do, the worse my opinion of Bushi gets

[grave cradle]

New Trickstar support

[spiral crest]

I think they actually only lasted 1 set before they went back to nostalgia baiting

it;s actually insane

[brave kindle]

what decks are meta right now

[spiral crest]

youthberk, gravidia, overlord, nirvana

once chronojet comes out, that becomes the best deck til it gets hit

[grave cradle]

Only a few days until we get robots

[mortal hawk]

Well, looks like the leaks were right about the new Bruce

It’s definitely in the same vein as Jheva in that people don’t know if it’s worth it.

[sharp forum]

yeah Danji or Peach Mountain as he calls himself in USA used it in will+Dress S2 Ep1

[grave cradle]

well not leaks, there was a stream that showed the card in action in the anime and people predicted its wording based off the anime

speaking of

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725584510892113952/1063708420395507773/latest.png

Stef makes Bruce an 18k vanguard

on opponents turn

[brave kindle]

this is strictly better than the og no?

instead of restanding front row at a heavy soulblast cost you get to restand a column and get a higher chance of that swing hitting

also this allows you to be in Final Rush on first g3 turn I think?

[grave cradle]

New one locks you out of multiple final rush cards, this one is certainly faster though

and the g4 is full restand front row with 1 drive check on the second vanguard attack

but on the plus side, final rush on first g3 turn if going second

[spiral crest]

No, surprisingly it’s pretty well designed. You have to choose between being archetype restricted or being able to use the good final rush support that came out originally

[honest night]

Man

Looking back

Legion Mate was kinda just a really garbage season huh

[brave kindle]

cardboard cutout animation lesgo

[honest night]

Like animation aside

The writing is just not good

Hey guys

What if we tried to fight the Quatre Knights

But like

Again

And it eventually works

Is it to show the stubbornness of Aichi's friends

And even so

Wow what a bad message

Imagine how much more heartfelt and thought-provoking G era would be if Legion Mate never happened

For all intents and purposes Legion is a filler arc now

But no

It's canon because Kai beat Shion with The Great that one time

Imagine if Aichi really did just seal himself and Link Joker away

And his decision was like

Respected and stuff

[sharp forum]

so wait to you "never give up" is bad message?

[honest night]

The message I got was "Never respect your dear friends decision even if it means potential destruction of the world"

"Because your friend was a really good guy"

Whenever a Quatre Knight gave them a legitimate reason as to why Aichi should be kept away

It was responded with

'True'

'But I REALLY like Aichi though'

[snow oriole]

if DD is any indication the vanguard universe has some odd-ass phrasing

[brave kindle]

knowing Bushi in general they have some really weird localization team

some early Buddyfight card flavor text was WACK

like, this is grammatically correct but it reads weirdly

[sharp forum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bxRPecublA&ab_channel=CardProtagonist

[grave cradle]

we got brandt gate dragontree today

g1 8k
Marker effect we've seen thrice already
Auto RC 1/turn : When your Set Order is placed from the hand into your Order Zone, COST: CBlast 1, look at the top 5 cards of your deck, choose up to one unit with Grade equal to or less than your Vanguard's grade and call it to RC in the same column as this unit, and shuffle your deck.

[honest night]

Ah fuck

What was the name of his attack again

He says it weirdly

We have

Drill Ram Bunker

Dancemakabre

Rhystic Chain

[spiral crest]

This is really good

I didn’t realize before though that dragon tree markers only take effect if you have a vg with dragon tree in name which is unfortunate

[grave cradle]

well dragontree OR redacted

and its fine, honestly reminds me of minions from chaotic

[spiral crest]

I meant it would have taken good cards to nation staple status

1 cb +1 in addition to a permanent 5k force marker is a great flex option for rearguards

[snow oriole]

oh yeah idk if i ever remembered to do it but i was going to ask if it was normal to not be able to make sense of 90% of flavor text lol

[grave cradle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725584510892113952/1065599181907054602/image.png

wait, this one may be generic?

nvm, Im dumb. Forgot the marker is what makes it not generic

[brave kindle]

https://www.reddit.com/r/cardfightvanguard/comments/10gz6zu/may_12th_2023_english_releasevgevss10_cardfight/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
rare Bushi product W

genuinly may pick this up for the Nightrose reprint: I kinda miss my V Granblue deck ngl

[spiral crest]

oh niot bad

[spiral crest]

Almajestar Astroea=Unica
G3/ POWER: 13000/ GUARD: 0
Persona ride
Auto: When you SB a trigger
unit by this unit's ability, choose 1
of your unit, during this turn it gets
POWER +5000.
Auto: When this unit attacks
a VG, [Cost]{SB3}, Bind all Critical
trigger among them and activate all
the following according to the amount
of Critical trigger in bind zone.
-1 or more: Choose and retire an
opponent's RG.
-2 or more: During this battle this
unit gets Critical +1.
-3 or more: During this battle this
unit gets Drive +1.

[silver sonnet]

F.A. Auto Navigator

Level: 1
[ Machine / Tuner / Effect ]

ATK 0 / DEF 0

Effect

If this card is in your hand or GY: You can target 1 "F.A." monster you control whose current Level is higher than its original Level; Special Summon this card, and if you do, reduce that target's Level by the difference between its current and original Level, and if you do that, this card's Level become equal to the amount reduced. If this card is Normal or Special Summoned: You can add 1 "F.A." Field Spell from your Deck to your hand. You can only use each effect of "F.A. Auto Navigator" once per turn.

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG)

Cost Down

Effect

Discard 1 card; for the rest of this turn, reduce the Levels of all monsters in your hand by 2 (even after they are Summoned).

F/L Status: Unlimited (TCG/OCG)

[grave cradle]

8 crit deck

[spiral crest]

Ok@nevermind, this is another bushiroad L lmao

[brave kindle]

bruh

that's like

almost $70 per deck? shit

[fluid garnet]

[fluid garnet]

@spiral crest is this the official MSRP

[spiral crest]

Supposedly but we have to see what other retailers have it listed at

[sharp forum]

hold your horses Bushiroad haters

we still don't know is that MSRP or price that that store asks from those

[mortal hawk]

Apparently, promos will be included in the bt06 dlc for dear days.
Also, we are getting Easter themed new bosses of the lbt1 monasterio bosses… except for Kairi

[grave cradle]

as for Unica, we have her support now but ignore the starter

None of the rideline says you need to run the G0, so run whatever darkstates crit you want

besides the gear dragon one, that one is obviously better in the deck

furthermore, new regalis piece is coming, and you will see [redacted] next week (or earlier in the anime this week)

[silver sonnet]

Could not resolve English data for searches: redacted

[grave cradle]

yes eye, because his name is redacted

[grave cradle]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/cardfight/images/8/88/D-BT09-T03_(Sample).png/revision/latest?cb=20221216030657

soon, we know what lies behind the censor

[spiral crest]

It’s official

Over triggers are never dying

Dragon tree of ruin Glyphogilla
G10/ POWER: 13000/ GUARD: 0
Persona ride
Continuous: During your turn this
unit gets POWER +5000 for each of
your Dragon tree marker. If there are
3 or more, this unit gets Critical +1.
Auto[Once per turn]: When this
unit attacks a VG, choose and
remove 1 face up Calamity from
your ride deck. If not removed,
choose and reveal 1 Over trigger
from your ride deck, activate it's
ability and it's additional ability,
remove it and stand all RGs on
circle with Dragon tree marker.

[grave cradle]

this thing rides from a g0 also

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/cardfight/images/a/a1/D-PR-113_(Sample).png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/274?cb=20211019141032

ok what if we 👀 used this in collabs

[static spire]

What the fuck did I just read?

Why is there a 10 in the corner?

Oh, it's slightly wrong.

Annihilating Dragontree, Griffogyra
CONT:During your turn, this unit gets [Power]+5000 for each Dragontree marker on your (RC). If you have three or more, this unit gets [Critical]+1.
AUTO1/Turn:When this unit attacks a vanguard, choose a face down Calamity card from your ride deck, and remove it from the game. If you could not remove a card, choose an [Over] trigger from your ride deck, reveal it, activate all of its trigger effects and Additional Effect, remove it from the game, and [Stand] all of your rear-guards on (RC) with a Dragontree marker.

And it's original form is the Grade 0 starter with this text.

AUTO: At the start of the main phase, choose a Calamity card from your ride deck, and put it into your soul. If there are three or more Calamity cards in your soul, COST[put three Calamity cards from your soul back into your ride deck], and ride a "Dragontree of Ecliptic Decimation, Griphogila" as Stand.
CONT(VC): This unit gets Power +2000 for each Calamity card in your soul.

I just noticed this Ride deck has 5 cards because it also includes the Overtrigger for some reason.

Oh it does remove face-up Calamity. Ignore the bit about it being slightly wrong.

The Grade 0 also gives 2 Dragontree markers when it is ridden by the 10.

[grave cradle]

note its missing the exact text for g0, just speculated

based off anime

[static spire]

About to get 200 word essay on a card.

[grave cradle]

Oh ya want to see the beautiful stuff we already came up with for this?

[spiral crest]

Wait so you’re expected to stay on the grade 0 until you fulfill the condition to ride up the g10?

[grave cradle]

g3 turn you ride the g10

and you get normal progression of power

[static spire]

Yes.

[spiral crest]

What’s the power of the g0

[grave cradle]

yes this means the go second heal triggers are live until your g3 turn

[spiral crest]

5k or 6k

[static spire]

6000, iirc.

[grave cradle]

6k

[spiral crest]

And the calamities are just vanilla cards right

[grave cradle]

but goes from 6 -> 8 ->10 (but when it hits 10 you ride up)

[grave cradle]

we dont know

[spiral crest]

Also what nation is this

[grave cradle]

None

[spiral crest]

Oh they haven’t told@us@anything

I thought it was a full reveal my b

[grave cradle]

The g0 is nationless, you pick 1

[static spire]

8 10 is the same as everyone else. It is 12 for a hot sec, but you ride the Grade 10 on top of it by then.

[grave cradle]

which is likely gonna be brandt gate, you know why?

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/cardfight/images/5/53/D-BT01-019EN-ORR_(Sample).png/revision/latest?cb=20210604035351

4 crit, 28k+200 million power

[spiral crest]

Oh you get to pick?

[grave cradle]

yup

[static spire]

You choose whatever nation and build it.

[spiral crest]

Actual deck building decisions in vanguard???????!!!?????

[static spire]

Similar to Gyze, I guess.

Bushi never learns.

[spiral crest]

Anyways Brandt gate or stocieha probs

[grave cradle]

also the "rideline" is so flavorful, I love it

[static spire]

Rideline feels so wack, if the calamity are basically filler cards.

Oh, it rides the Grade 10 from Deck.

[spiral crest]

Useless knowledge
The calamity cards in the ride deck have the exact same name as the calamity card in BT08

[Cost]{CB1} to play!
Search and reveal up to 1 calamity card from
deck, add it to hand and shuffle the deck.

[static spire]

Lmao, imagine if the Grade 10 gets imprisoned by one of the top deck stealers.

[spiral crest]

I guess this deck is unplayable in premium

[static spire]

It is for now. But Bushi could make random rule changes to justify anything.

[grave cradle]

Basically the ride deck calamities each have a picture of the meteor

[static spire]

Isn't there a card in premium that look at top something and picks one of the cards grade to make your drive check?

10 Drive.

[grave cradle]

its a countdown ride deck

[static spire]

[grave cradle]

valkyrion

[spiral crest]

Idr

But if premium introduces a ride deck, the format is beyond repair

It would need a banlist once a month lol

[static spire]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/cardfight/images/6/6a/V-TD09-016EN.png/revision/latest?cb=20191120011452

Oh, it doesn't draw for it's drive.

How about Ride deck but can only play Cray Elementals.

Is there anything that would be uber fucked?

[grave cradle]

Im so excited for this deck, the flavor and choices available

its so better then reverse or link joker

[static spire]

Hey, only deck in Overdress that won't sack an Overtrigger vs you.

It instead makes sure to OT you at exactly 7th turn.

[spiral crest]

With crays only?

[static spire]

Yes.

[grave cradle]

7 turns, thats how long you have before a quad crit you to death

[static spire]

[spiral crest]

Idr the cray card pool but guaranteed 1-2 is good for decks that play a lot of grade 3s or want to greed out on ratios

[grave cradle]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/cardfight/images/6/63/D-BT09-009-RRR_(Sample).png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/274?cb=20230120031241

[spiral crest]

If I had the option to run a ride deck in luard for instance, I wouldn’t hesistate

[grave cradle]

Im so ready to team up with this guy

[spiral crest]

Oh shit, so you have to pick and choose which of the supports you want to run

I see

Cause those actually have real@nations

[grave cradle]

yes, the dragontree marker makers (needed to hit 3 trees for your crit) all are 1 nation each

Note you get 2 for free, so just need to call 1 to get your crit

[static spire]

You know, is there even a point to it being Grade 10, other than big number spook.

Can't think of anything useful to do with it.

[grave cradle]

So either you are on the 5 main nations (allowing access to the crit provided you call 1 of the marker makers)
or you play the true gimmick and go for collab set/lyrical Invasion

[static spire]

Is the Grade 4 Prison card the only one that disrupts Soul?

Trying to think of some way to fuck over the Grade 0 to 10's ability.

[honest night]

Sigh

Time for the big numbers big gimmick unit that will either

Not do anything

Or ruin the format forever

[honest night]

No

[grave cradle]

gotta pay 88 for 4 boba for BG

may go for DE to avoid the boba tax

[honest night]

Griphogila is basically

If you survive 7 turns, you win the game

[grave cradle]

defensive win con deck, beloved

[honest night]

But it has the perk over Glendios of being

Not shit

[grave cradle]

true

[honest night]

Brandt is probably the OT of choice if you want it to be as much of an autowin as possible

[grave cradle]

yeah but dragon empire can swing twice

[spiral crest]

Honestly this card is pretty dope from a design perspective

If the grade 0 isn’t mandatory, you can sit on that vs vanguards that require your opponent to have a g3+ for extra skills

Trade off is having a 11k vg but you turn off some scary skills like new Bruce or extra crits from some@boss im forgetting

[static spire]

Was gonna say how is that different from sitting on any rando Grade 2 before I realized this lets you call shit with higher grades, presumably because of one of its effects.

Tho, thinking on it, they could do smthg like the Calamities increase the grade of the grade 0 or smthg.

[grave cradle]

You cant call anything

your at g0

well you can call other g0s, but why would you

[static spire]

Did the guy just swing with just his vanguard for first 2 turns?

[grave cradle]

yes

[static spire]

Oh.

Then ye, this is same as sitting on rando G2, no.

[grave cradle]

we know the skill of the calamities

[static spire]

No wait, I forgot Ride deck only works on first oppurtunity to ride said grade.

[grave cradle]

CB 1, add a calamity from deck to hand

IE useless to play, only is there to be shoved into the seed from your ridedeck

[static spire]

Anyway, sitting on the Grade 0 if it's optional doesn't seem good now since your board will just be 1 vanilla.

[grave cradle]

yeah thats the downside

you do go up in power tho

8k, then 10k, then 13k

so first few turns you are basically just playing defensively

[spiral crest]

Oh I forgot about the lack of being able to call lmao

[grave cradle]

watch this deck get support that lets you call earlier

somehow

[honest night]

I was originally like

Wow this card is nuts you dont have to pay ride deck tax

But you probably have to guard with more cards than you'd be willing to

[grave cradle]

yeah the boss is defensive

[brave kindle]

psure no

[spiral crest]

no, they changed that a few years back

mostly because of dusk

[grave cradle]

No, you can guard with any grade

[spiral crest]

WORLD CHAMPION WINNERS:

Standard:
1st Place: Youthberk
Runner Up: Orfist

V:
1st Place: Steam Maiden
2nd Place: Steam Maiden

Premium:
1st Place: Steam Maiden
2nd Place: Highlander

[grave cradle]

at least the new set is reprinting Boba

that should help drive down the price

it's just to sell Dragontree

[sharp forum]

based on that episode Dragon Tree of Ruin, Glyphogilla seems awesome

[mortal hawk]

So, is the new dlc for dear days coming out on Wednesday or Thursday?

[spiral crest]

Griphosid
(You can have a total of five cards in your ride deck made up of this card, three Calamity cards and a [Over] trigger)
CONT:This unit gets [Power] +2000 for each Calamity card with a different card name in your soul.
AUTO:At the beginning of your main phase, choose a Calamity card from your ride deck, and put it into soul. [COST][Put three Calamity cards from soul that were in the ride deck into ride deck face up], search your hand or deck for up to one "Dragontree of Ecliptic Decimation, Griphogila", ride it as [Stand], and if you searched your deck, shuffle your deck. If you rode a card, choose two of your (RC), and put a Dragontree marker on each of them.

The Start of the End
Play this with [COST][Counter-Blast 1]!
Search your deck for up to one Calamity card, reveal it and put it into your hand, and shuffle your deck.

Minacious Metamorphosis
Play this with [COST][Counter-Blast 1]!
Search your deck for up to one Calamity card, reveal it and put it into your hand, and shuffle your deck.

Looming Demise
Play this with [COST][Counter-Blast 1]!
Search your deck for up to one Calamity card, reveal it and put it into your hand, and shuffle your deck.

Dragontree Marker
(This represents a Dragontree marker, and cannot be put in a deck)
During your turn, if you have a vanguard with "Dragontree" or "Masques" in its card name, all of the units on this circle get [Power] +5000.

-Maddie 🌸

I still don’t get the point of the orders that look for calamities from deck

Griphosid Q&A:

1. You have to choose a single Nation (or Collab Nation) and build your deck with that Nation
2. Putting an Over Trigger in ride deck means you put 15 triggers in your main deck
3. You can't put Calamity cards of the same grade in ride deck, it must be grades 1 to 3
4. You can put the Calamity cards from ride deck to soul in any order

-Maddie 🌸

[grave cradle]

oh good they made it so you cant auto lose

OH and one more thing, about that redacted name

Who is masques

[static spire]

Wym?

[grave cradle]

"search your hand or deck"

[static spire]

Tbf, you prob do play 4 copies, no?

[grave cradle]

The recreation from what we saw in the anime said only deck, so there was a possibility you can draw 4 turn 1

or turn 2

[static spire]

Just damage check 2-3 copies and prison top deck the rest.

[grave cradle]

By the card saying hand or deck, the odds you'll lose all 4 copies before turn 3 has been significantly lowered

and you can keep the other copies in hand during mulligan for persona riding later

[spiral crest]

2 or 3 works

[grave cradle]

Next set may be the true start to a new reverse era

[snow oriole]

looks like dlc set 1 dropped for DD. is galactic hero fun? since I'm a Brandt simp

[spiral crest]

It’s cool@yeah

[mortal hawk]

Well, it’s gone midnight over here and still no dlc

[spiral crest]

Dlc is supposedly out

[sonic night]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[mortal hawk]

Turns out the switch version has a major bug so the dlc is delayed.

[spiral crest]

@fluid garnet once Chronojet deck drops in eng, gear chronicle will be tier 1 in all 3 formats simultaneously

[fluid garnet]

@spiral crest 2/3 of them are lame gears tho 😔

[grave cradle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725584510892113952/1070670406408736838/image.png

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725584510892113952/1070671352744398898/image.png

Demon 🐴 and 🐢 for your desire

[mortal hawk]

And I’m just here on my switch just waiting.

[grave cradle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc1iTP2cPek&ab_channel=CARDFIGHTVanguard

episode today should be revealing a new rideline for KS