Magic the Gathering

[golden plover]

Your best payoff is like Shiko or riddler ig?

[tardy echo]

We don’t even have eidetic memory anymore

So you can’t durdle with riddler into a 20/20

Blink shiko is fine but you’re probably just copying… another blink spell

[golden plover]

I guess you can target the emeritus and blink him for ancestral recall twelve times?

[tardy echo]

You get like infinite value you just don’t really get to do anything with it without playing some whack cards/colors

[twilit canyon]

we need skyclave apparition again for the blink value

[sleek ferry]

Looks pretty good for Azorius tempo. You can reset aven interrupter/aang

[golden plover]

I wish you could flip Nia by blinking her, but she's gotta be airbent or played for Shiko for that

And honestly, I think Jeskai mid will cut the Shiko passage going forward

[tardy echo]

We need phlage in standard

That will provide a strong payoff for blinking.

[golden plover]

Probably better to play lorehold and get cheap Jeskai rev

[glad peak]

We need phlage gone

[golden plover]

I guess if we can somehow get terror of the peaks in here we can do it

[tardy echo]

U can prob play the blink cards in elementals

[glad peak]

Maybe in the next foundations patch

[tardy echo]

Like the actual elementals deck

[sleek ferry]

Yeah, this actually goes crazy in Azorius tempo. A body + a blink in one, and double triggers on Kuruk off one card

[golden plover]

They're gonna patch phlage into foundations

They're also gonna patch his typeline to be elemental

This is like fringe sideboard playable depending on the format, yeah?

[sleek ferry]

Seems fine yeah

[tardy echo]

Prob gets better post rotation bc a couple popular counters are leaving

[sleek ferry]

Not spell snare or spell pierce

[golden plover]

It being 4 is probably actually relevant tbh

[tardy echo]

3 steps and nml

[tardy echo]

Dodges snare

[golden plover]

Was spell pierce in foundations?

[golden plover]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking

[tardy echo]

It was in aetherdrift

[golden plover]

It lets you hit it with disdainful stroke tho

[tardy echo]

It’s in like 17 quadrillion sets actually but I know it’s aetherdrift

Is disdainful stroke in standard right now???

[golden plover]

But if they're disdainful stroking this they're losing

Yup

[trail anvil]

ah yes, the 3 counter spells healthy to keep in each standard

[tardy echo]

Oh it’s in eldraine

[trail anvil]

and essence scatter

[sleek ferry]

I know a dog shit deck when I see it maining essence scatter

[golden plover]

Interestingly, this card also doesn't affect your cascade/explore

[tardy echo]

Quandrix synergy

[golden plover]

It's not relevant but ya know

[tardy echo]

prob designed with that in mind unironically

[golden plover]

https://preview.redd.it/w1azzx9q1ttg1.png?auto=webp&s=de07f02297d84f24545ea420d2b8759d8d483dd0

Oh speaking of spell pierce

[tardy echo]

That’s hot

[golden plover]

Also in-universe print of Shaded Roots

[tardy echo]

That’s also a very good art

[tardy echo]

Honestly you could’ve taken the original, removed the flavor text and put a yellow dot over aang

And then that’s also an in universe print

[trail anvil]

wait that's so weird, reprint 2 sets later?

I mean I get that it's rampant growth but still

[golden plover]

Iirc [[Buried in the Garden]] was the same way

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/191/buried-in-the-garden

Buried in the Garden <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Enchantment — Aura
Enchant land
When this Aura enters, exile target nonland permanent you don't control until this Aura leaves the battlefield.
Whenever enchanted land is tapped for mana, its controller adds an additional one mana of any color.

[trail anvil]

ig yeah, I didn't really notice cause it's not a super noticeable card lol

[stark skiff]

wtf bro consume

[stark skiff]

Waifu tax winner

[golden plover]

I dunno, I think the jp spell snare looks so much worse

[subtle sierra]

@tardy echo black is tutor

[past socket]

and reminds me we got Vampiric Tutor as one of the earlier showings of the Mystical Archive

[trail anvil]

this is the most balanced way I've seen to print demonic tutor

[golden plover]

Yeah that's not looking too hot lol

[trail anvil]

watch me miss some way to cheat this in in standard or something

[golden plover]

I mean, there's better things to cheat in than a tutor like once

6 mana to tutor sounds... Rough

[subtle sierra]

You could just north wind avatar for 5 and a better body to just wish

[twilit canyon]

this is kinda shit

[golden plover]

The reddit thread for this card is hilarious btw

Everyone thinks it's broken

[twilit canyon]

i mean its fine...? in commander...?

i guesS?

we have better shit to do and better tutors

[past socket]

I do respect it as a love letter to THE tutor

[twilit canyon]

eh

its more paying homage to diabolic intent

[golden plover]

Should've let you sacc a creature to it for lifelink or something

Or at least been each upkeep

[past socket]

I believe Demonic Tutor is what put the term Tutor into the Magic lexicon?

[twilit canyon]

yeah but the sacrifice to search is [[diabolic intent]] thing

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/bro/89/diabolic-intent

Diabolic Intent <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
As an additional cost to cast this spell, sacrifice a creature.
Search your library for a card, put that card into your hand, then shuffle.
Gix pierced his disciples' minds and savored their experiences as he took in their knowledge.

[past socket]

Oh right peeps gotta die to reprep her

[twilit canyon]

its any player ig but that really is limiting as hell

[copper pecan]

call me crazy but i think 7 mana to tutor something is probably not that strong

[past socket]

Madness, lock him away!

[twilit canyon]

its 6 technically! divided among 2 spells one is a creature

[past socket]

Reaching that one 6 generic tutor right there!

[twilit canyon]

professionally: we call this bad
casually: we call this fucking dogwater garbage

at least its a decent rate

no keyword tho

[fallow citrus]

I posted this and said it was mid and immediately got laugh reacted

commander players 😔

[twilit canyon]

its a thoroughly okay card 10 years ago

[fallow citrus]

I think pretending someone is ever going to let you do this more than once in commander is funny

[twilit canyon]

best way i saw it described is that the 7 tevesh players will fiend for this card

and u dont wanna be hyped like the tevesh players if you are not on tevesh

[tardy echo]

So far blue seems like the only playable one

[twilit canyon]

blue remains best color in standard

[tardy echo]

Just wait for the white one drop flash hexproof white emeritus that prepares balance

[trail anvil]

I actually like dying to ornate imitations

[lusty trench]

Rune scar demon if it was bad

[sleek ferry]

Where’s the 7 mana coming from btw

It’s 6 mana

It’s still bad

[lusty trench]

? No one was saying 7 mana were they?

[sleek ferry]

Yeah above

Everybody kept saying 7

Thought I was missing something

It doesn’t even become prepared until the end step lol

I was going to say, you could probably use this in dargo for value

But that’s just shit if it’s end step

[twilit canyon]

6 mana 5/4 no keyword + tutor

yeah if it prepared after the 2nd death a turn... maybe

[sleek ferry]

It would have at least been a consideration for dargo tymna, but even then, lol.

If nothing else, it’s a perfect Timmy card. And might hold value in the rare slot for that reason

[twilit canyon]

its a mythic

[copper pecan]

i misread the creature half as being 5 mana, my bad

[golden plover]

Close enough, hello toxic deluge

[trail anvil]

wait I fuck with it

[golden plover]

This feels really good

[tardy echo]

I’m playing golgari in standard and nobody can stop me

[sleek ferry]

Diamond rank will stop you

[tardy echo]

I just need them to like accidentally reprint glissa sun slayer or something

[tardy echo]

Diamond rank will be golgari son

[twilit canyon]

you are so generous

[sleek ferry]

Having faith in your friends to overachieve is a good quality to have

[twilit canyon]

i believe in cake but diamond??

jk ik a guy who has been doing super well w a golgari brew in current

kind of a dog vs dimir g1 but its a solid little list

[tardy echo]

If I was able to climb with Yuna I can do it with anything

That deck was some hot dog ass

Abzan too not even naya

[twilit canyon]

green black got ppl doing some insane shit for no reason

[sleek ferry]

Yuna was actually good though lol, it also depends when you climbed with her

[tardy echo]

Post beans

[sleek ferry]

Need a specific set

[tardy echo]

Pre eoe

Naya was playable not amazing abzan post beans was horrid

[sleek ferry]

I used to play abzan control

[tardy echo]

Ok now imagine if you were playing abzan control but for some reason it had a Yuna in it

[sleek ferry]

Well I ran almost no creatures in my list lol

[tardy echo]

Exactly

[sleek ferry]

We would win via [[outrageous robbery]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/97/outrageous-robbery

Outrageous Robbery <:manax:292901509082120202><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Target opponent exiles the top X cards of their library face down. You may look at and play those cards for as long as they remain exiled. If you cast a spell this way, you may spend mana as though it were mana of any type to cast it.
"When you can't erase your own trail, leave as many false ones as possible." —Etrata

[tardy echo]

I’m not saying abzan colors were bad but it was definitely a bad deck

[sleek ferry]

Or sometimes [[herd migration]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/dmu/165/herd-migration

Herd Migration <:mana6:292901508780130304><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Domain — Create a 3/3 green Beast creature token for each basic land type among lands you control.
, Discard this card: Search your library for a basic land card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle. You gain 3 life.

[twilit canyon]

i understand

[tardy echo]

And I still got to diamond with it

So surely with a playable deck I’d be unstoppable

[twilit canyon]

i have tricked myself before into thinking i had found the newest sauce or goated deck and really it was a combo of me being good and my opponents being bad

[tardy echo]

No I thought Yuna was pretty bad I just thought it was v fun

Eoe made pixie good again though so once that happened I jumped ship

[sleek ferry]

I was telling Ren today, that the biggest difference between in person standard vs arena standard is that most arena players don’t cook

They just netdeck

[tardy echo]

Pre beans I do think naya yuna was a really fucked up deck

But that lasted like 2 weeks lol

[twilit canyon]

true

they really hampered it properly... i think meta could have been insanely dull if it was a good deck

[tardy echo]

I thought beans was a very fun card but def would have been more than a little polarizing

Even without leyline binding and friends

[twilit canyon]

neat

[sleek ferry]

Beans could have stayed till right before Lorwyn imo

[twilit canyon]

ehhhhh

[tardy echo]

I mean it would really depend on what else they hit

That’s always the issue talking abt hypotheticals

It probably would’ve been just as easy to make beans tier 0 as they did Vivi

[sleek ferry]

Beans decks would have also shifted a bit with rotation

[tardy echo]

No leyline hurt the deck but rotation also hurt a couple of the things that predated on it

And eoe had some v nice toys for it

[twilit canyon]

yea

plus overlords will always be really strong for it

[tardy echo]

Riddler being a 2 mana draw 2 etc

[knotty ferry]

[trail anvil]

wait is this a necromancy professor that revived themselves

[tardy echo]

Yes

[trail anvil]

hot damn

metal

[golden plover]

The new legend did the same thing

Moseo actually ripped off all their flesh to stop phyresis

[sleek ferry]

https://fxtwitter.com/sadpoor/status/2041598717573173621?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Alexis Haro (@SadPoor)

La última mítica del Mystical Archive es Jeska´s Will

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FxTwitter · Apr 7, 2026, 7:27 PM

[sleek ferry]

Finally a jeska’s will reprint

[tardy echo]

This is a sick ass design btw

[tardy echo]

Wait I’m a commander player now

But also isn’t that end step trigger also literally a white uncommon or something lol

[twilit canyon]

kinda. green also does life gain

[sleek ferry]

Sheesh, this is the worse one yet 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[twilit canyon]

ad nauseam at home

they have some hidden lessons in strixhaven
keep them hidden

[tardy echo]

No I don’t mean it’s a color break

Just a bit boring

[twilit canyon]

oh i mean yea

[tardy echo]

Just wait till the green one is rampant growth basics only and it costs 6

[tardy echo]

I just think it’s funny when they print commanders that have the same effects as draft chaff with better colors that’s existed for years

[trail anvil]

this card is hilarious

[tardy echo]

I’m gonna cast this card and target my opponent as a wincon

10 turn clock for 5 mana 🔥

[sleek ferry]

Sigh this is how I know you’re not ready for diamond, it’s a 3 turn clock with sheoldred out noob

[twilit canyon]

judge! opponent is using an illegal card

[tardy echo]

If sheoldred was still in standard I’d be rank 7 right now

We live in a cruel world where wotc hates women and gay people so they took the praetors out of the game

[sleek ferry]

Eternal sheoldred format was not it (until we finally got the good removal like 3 sets later)

[tardy echo]

The legacy of homophobic vorinclex lives on

[sleek ferry]

Speak of the devil https://x.com/sadpoor/status/2041599776907509767?s=46&t=DdUsqNPs-c3IFDRYOhiq8A

Alexis Haro (@SadPoor)

Edicto de Sheoldred es parte del Mystical Archive

X · Apr 7, 2026, 7:31 PM

[tardy echo]

Beautiful

[twilit canyon]

they let a bad bitch look this good and then killed her

wotc really is homophobic

[tardy echo]

They brought her back it’s ok

Is Elesh Norn and Sheoldred toxic Yuri?

[sleek ferry]

What in universe sets do you guys think we get next year?

[twilit canyon]

i hope we get none

no wait this is bad rage bait

[tardy echo]

If we’re revisiting strixhaven we’ll prob start revisiting the other planes from covid ish

[twilit canyon]

i hope we get one and its a mediocre set

[tardy echo]

I hope we revisit capenna because we haven’t seen an urban city environment in a really long time

That’s proper rage bait misty learn

[fallow citrus]

only in universe set is going to take place in ugin's meditation plane

[sleek ferry]

We’re already confirmed to be getting 3 in universe, 3 ub sets

[tardy echo]

Ikoria capenna kaldheim are all prob due visits sometime soon

[sleek ferry]

Alara, Zhalfir and Ravnica (for the finale of Jace’s story) would be my guess

For UB, I think we get DnD 2, the final Marvel set and idk what else

[twilit canyon]

ik but im hating anyways

[tardy echo]

You say we’re visiting zhalfir but it’s about to get re-phased out by reality fracture

gg?

Alara would be cool but i don’t know what we’d even really be doing there

[sleek ferry]

Sigh, did you forget that Teferi is the strongest wizard ever (fuck that fraud Urza)

[sleek ferry]

Seeing Alara in a different light post reality fracture

[tardy echo]

Alara but all the shards are backwards

[sleek ferry]

Instead of seeing Alara in a world where all the different tribes are helping Nicol Bolas do evil deeds, we see them unite for good

[tardy echo]

I think for as fun as the shards designs are they don’t do much narratively

[zinc shard]

"Sign in Blood until you run out of blood"

[tardy echo]

Like the clans in tarkir have depth and character but it’s just like

All incredibly one note on Alara imo

[zinc shard]

neat combat trick

[sleek ferry]

This is great

[tardy echo]

Don’t disrespect my goat tamiyo like that she put emrakul in the moon

Asterisk

[sleek ferry]

Teferi got his head cut clean off and is still chilling to this day

[tardy echo]

Reality fractured tamiyo will be rakdos and she won’t be a jobber @twilit canyon

[twilit canyon]

she'll stop jobbing once

and then job again its in her name

[sleek ferry]

Except in power cube

She does everything but job there

[twilit canyon]

true

[zinc shard]

Thought this was busted, but it's only X, not X or less

[tardy echo]

She’ll make obnix look like calix

[tardy echo]

Raise the past copies 5-8 I guess

Surely sephiroth will be good this time!!!!

[twilit canyon]

actually yeah kinda (not playable sephiroth)

[tardy echo]

I forgot who the actual rakdos pw was but it’s angrath

[twilit canyon]

but its a p damn solid card

[tardy echo]

Unfort he’s a jobber

[twilit canyon]

he dgaf i respect him for that

[tardy echo]

Yeah he def dgaf that’s why he sucks

[subtle sierra]

Decorum alt art

[tardy echo]

It’s cute flavor at least

[subtle sierra]

So the red lesson is still the best?

[tardy echo]

Very silverquill

The blue one is p good but red is prob best yeah

Green will probably not be that good

[twilit canyon]

it'll be a 5 mana cultivate

[tardy echo]

Cultivate is generous it’ll be 5 mana rampant growth

[sleek ferry]

Is it just me

Or are they heavily teasing a new color in this set?

Like not actually in this set

But with the card design

[tardy echo]

Purple in reality fracture has been the meme for a bit

[twilit canyon]

it'd be so fucking funny if they give us a 6th color for one set

[tardy echo]

I don’t think they will but there might be a land that lets you cheat converges

[twilit canyon]

and then much like battles

[glad peak]

Can’t be, it needs to debut in the fnaf set

[twilit canyon]

it never returns

[tardy echo]

“Mana from this land is treated as all 5 types at once”

Or something like that

[subtle sierra]

Rainbow mana

[twilit canyon]

shii

whats our july set so they can say they dropped it in pride month

[tardy echo]

Misty…

[subtle sierra]

No set in july

[twilit canyon]

did i say july

[subtle sierra]

Marvel is gay

[tardy echo]

Or just “you treat x as 5 for converge cards” idk

[twilit canyon]

marvel is gay and they are introducing purple

[subtle sierra]

They will release purple man, the purplest hero

[twilit canyon]

the bite of 97!?

[subtle sierra]

Pog

That's the premier instant removal of the color

[tardy echo]

Making us wait 6 months to resolve this shit ass plot line that they haven’t developed at all is crazy

[hidden ermine]

Calling him a hero is a ... choice

[tardy echo]

I hope that Jace dies actually

Just because wotc pmod with this one

[twilit canyon]

i hope they just bury the hatchet and cancel the story

idk anyone who genuinely cares with serious intent anyways

[tardy echo]

Good ending is Jace dies to unfracture reality and now nissa and chandra are the main characters

Vraska returns to her lesbian brood

[subtle sierra]

Tbf when writing that i wasn't thinking of afton

[tardy echo]

Lavinia becomes the guild pact… idk

[twilit canyon]

massacre girl, you are the new guildpact

[tardy echo]

so true

I love her

[subtle sierra]

Good ending is jace dies, you didn't have to type the rest

[twilit canyon]

would highkey be kinda funny if her legal name was just first name massacre last name girl

[subtle sierra]

What would be her middle name

[twilit canyon]

no middle

[subtle sierra]

Sigh

You could have picked some normal name that'd be funny

Massacre "jennifer" girl

[tardy echo]

No I want vraska to be a lesbian again

[subtle sierra]

That is implied

I mean what else would vraska do if jace dies

[tardy echo]

Be a single mom? Work two jobs?

[hidden ermine]

Yeah neither was I. There is in fact a purple man in Marvel

[subtle sierra]

Damn

[twilit canyon]

marvel writers need to be put down wow

[sleek ferry]

It doesn’t get any gayer than Marvel

[hidden ermine]

His actual name is Zebediah Killgrave but he has purple skin sooo

Purple man

[sleek ferry]

But hear me out, Rupaul’s Drag Race UB set next year

[tardy echo]

Secret lair maybe…

[hidden ermine]

He has mind control powers and is a rapist iirc

[tardy echo]

woahg

[sleek ferry]

Put some respect on Bob the drag queen gaytor

[tardy echo]

Bob? He’s already a card

[hidden ermine]

So yeah very much so not a hero

[tardy echo]

Has strixhaven had any reprints yet besides the lands

[twilit canyon]

mystical archives

[sleek ferry]

We don’t usually see the reprints unless they’re in the rare/mythic slot

[twilit canyon]

or good cards like spell snare

[sleek ferry]

And we saw spell snare by complete accident

Shout out to those shitty decks

[tardy echo]

Idk lorwyn had like a ton of random reprints

Why was blossoming defense in that set

[sleek ferry]

You can’t even tell me the reprints in foundations

I can’t trust your reprint sense

[tardy echo]

???

Did you seriously not know that nissa of the shadowed burroughs was in foundations???

Get a load of this guy @twilit canyon

[twilit canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-death-lol-gif-20542436

[tardy echo]

What does this mean

[glad peak]

Thank you Peter Parker

[sleek ferry]

She killed that pussy

[tardy echo]

Or crib swap or nameless inversion

[twilit canyon]

thugs is despawning

[tardy echo]

Can he do it faster

Actually I’m p sure each color got 1-2 reprints each in ecl

For… no reason

Does anybody currently playing standard know that bloom tender is legal?

[sudden lava]

https://i.redd.it/73sf5srljutg1.jpeg

[trail anvil]

2 life?

[tardy echo]

It’s a very picky blood artist and it costs an extra mana

Seems fine

[twilit canyon]

yeah seems fine

worse sephiroth

[knotty ferry]

2 MIRE WINS TO PLAT

AND THEN ILM FINALLY BE BETTER THAN AREO

[twilit canyon]

dude

just baseline

you cleared that line

[knotty ferry]

Is mythic after diamond

Or what's the order

[twilit canyon]

diamond next

then mythic

once in mythic, you are assigned a # or a % depending on the time you get in

generally for standard, you'll be ranked mythic #1300~ unless your internal mmr was high to get there

[knotty ferry]

Wdym by time

[twilit canyon]

i mean time as in days passed per season

if you get to mythic within the first weekish you'll probs end up in the 800s

maybe higher depending on winstreak

a few times i end up in the 200s or high 100s if i steamroll into mythic in one day at 1 loss from plat -> mythic

highest i ever placed was a day 1 rank 89 at start of a season from 0 losses

there are just faster grinders

[knotty ferry]

Wait but

What determines whether you get a # or a %

Like what does % mean

In terms of when you get in

[twilit canyon]

speed of match completion + internal mmr

internal mmr calced by how often/fast you get to mythic + how many of your games are won on 2-0s vs 2-1s

and vice versa how little 0-2s you get vs 1-2s

[knotty ferry]

So if I get there near the end of the season, I'll get a %?

Can I turn that into a #?

[twilit canyon]

most likely

yes

[knotty ferry]

Ok

[twilit canyon]

mythic is divided into

[knotty ferry]

Also I'm playing bo1

[twilit canyon]

%

and #s

[knotty ferry]

So idk how that factors in lol

[twilit canyon]

bo1 will get to mythic quicker

[knotty ferry]

But then it's just mmr

[twilit canyon]

anyone grinding seriously for #1 is generally going bo1

[knotty ferry]

Cause match score doesn't matter

[twilit canyon]

but its at least to me

way easier to get to mythic in bo3

and if you care about grinding

you play bo1

[knotty ferry]

But the second part obviously doesn't factor into bo1 right, so it's just the first part

[twilit canyon]

the only tangible rewards for having a # in mythic is generally waiving some events

[knotty ferry]

So mmr + winrate

Wlel

Mmr + time

In the season

[twilit canyon]

mmr is still tracked but yeah bo1 will take into account time

your winrate in that time matters of course

[knotty ferry]

Ok

[twilit canyon]

tho raw numbers can push

[knotty ferry]

It's just match score in bo3 ovv

[twilit canyon]

so if you say

play 10 matches and go 7-3

but you do this over the course of an hour

you would get lower internal vs the same in 45 mins

[knotty ferry]

I assume that's because there's some delay in adjusting mmr?

[twilit canyon]

yep

[knotty ferry]

@sleek ferry do you think I can get to mythic

[twilit canyon]

but there are some real # fiends

[knotty ferry]

I still feel like I face troll decks half the time

My last match was vs TMNT blue green sealed

[twilit canyon]

i had a case once where i was legit grinding bo1 mythic trying to go from #7 -> #6 and despite being fast, i'd not go up

and then i saw crokeyz streaming and he was finishing matches in half the time even if he lost

[knotty ferry]

Sorry, simic 🤓

[twilit canyon]

if u ever hop onto historic

[knotty ferry]

Simic just sounds like simian

[twilit canyon]

you'll see the funniest decklists imaginable

[knotty ferry]

[twilit canyon]

simic players

[knotty ferry]

Is historic like premodern or some shit

[twilit canyon]

no historic is a unique digital format

its like modern +- a few sets and adding some digital-only sets

[knotty ferry]

I see

[twilit canyon]

but the format hasnt had major events since... well a few months ago but generally its not as huge anymore

so you'll see treefolk tribal in plat

despite the best decks being capable of winning on turn 3 consistently

[knotty ferry]

Turn 3 is insane

[twilit canyon]

the technical ceiling for historic is turn 2

[knotty ferry]

Turn 3 I'm normal summoning deep cavern bat if I'm lucky

[twilit canyon]

even if there are turn 1 possibilities

format is just really strong

but non-rotating is a big plus

[knotty ferry]

Well with a lot more cards legal, I guess that makes sense

Like thugs's favorite, nadu

[twilit canyon]

timeless is imo the best format to be playing on arena tho its not close to me

[tardy echo]

Yeah mostly apes play those colors

Speaking as someone who does…

[twilit canyon]

[[pongify]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/160/pongify

Pongify <:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Destroy target creature. It can't be regenerated. Its controller creates a 3/3 green Ape creature token.
Some spellcrafting mistakes go on to become spells of their own.

[knotty ferry]

Wow

The memes write themselves

[tardy echo]

Simic v much has a pretense of being for smart ppl when 97% of the time it ends up as big beats + ramp

[twilit canyon]

true!

[tardy echo]

Now temur? Those are thinking man’s colors

Or uh

[twilit canyon]

also true

[tardy echo]

Omnath colors

[twilit canyon]

thinking of how to end yourself asap

[tardy echo]

Whatever those are called

I forgot

Yore tiller…

[twilit canyon]

omnaths been all places

[tardy echo]

Idk

[twilit canyon]

oh 4c omnath

[tardy echo]

Black-less

Yeah

[twilit canyon]

ik the nephilim names... but like

[tardy echo]

I only remember that atraxa colors are called witch maw

[twilit canyon]

i call it non-x

[tardy echo]

I don’t remember the other ones

So I just call them by big legends that everybody knows

[twilit canyon]

so glad they never caught on ngl

[tardy echo]

Atraxa colors are cool

[twilit canyon]

oh i do like jeskai-black for instance

or sultai-white

[knotty ferry]

Temur just sounds like temu

So it's gotta be some bootleg shit

[twilit canyon]

if you ever want a color combo that struggles to remove anything above 4 toughness permanently

[tardy echo]

Calling them like this makes me think of like

[twilit canyon]

try temur

[tardy echo]

It’s jeskai with 1 black card

Kind of vibe

Which sometimes is very apt

[glad peak]

Mmm moist jund

[tardy echo]

But like atraxa colors are pretty evenly distributed most of the time I feel

Omnath was def naya + blue though

Also in terms of his card design

Just had a blue pip because??

[glad peak]

Dark jeskai was a deck and moist jund was just a joke deck

[twilit canyon]

thats unfortunately due to the sultai association

[glad peak]

You don’t understand, he went into the water so he must be blue

[tardy echo]

We should put the broken Omnath back in standard btw

[twilit canyon]

reprint fetches into standard...

lets make badger mole cub a real problem

[tardy echo]

Tbf if Omnath was less picky about his mana it would’ve been even more annoying

But he reasonably should’ve just been temur/naya

[twilit canyon]

his gluttony knew no bounds

fucker even ended up with black

i actually still dont understand how an elemental can end up compleated...

[tardy echo]

Tbf that sort of makes sense

[tardy echo]

Mana can be completed can’t it

[twilit canyon]

fuck, i guess yeah

idr what they said for omnath ending up compleated

[sleek ferry]

It would be impressive if you can do it this season. A lot of players get walled in mid-high diamond

[tardy echo]

He prob ate Phyrexian mana and turned evil

Would also check out with only having the black pip

Besides its huge aura to have the fat ass Phyrexian mana in the center

[[nathan locus of all]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “nathan locus of all”

[tardy echo]

Kys bot

[[Omnath locus of all]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mom/249/omnath-locus-of-all

Omnath, Locus of All <:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338><:manabp:292901508922474496><:manar:292901508796645397><:manag:292901508654301185>

Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Elemental
If you would lose unspent mana, that mana becomes black instead.
At the beginning of your first main phase, look at the top card of your library. You may reveal that card if it has three or more colored mana symbols in its mana cost. If you do, add three mana in any combination of its colors and put it into your hand. If you don't reveal it, put it into your hand.
4/4

[tardy echo]

This card is almost really cool

[knotty ferry]

Walls are meant to be broken

[copper pecan]

tbh i never got to mythic even after months of trying

the highest i ever got was diamond 2 iirc

[tardy echo]

I got to diamond 4 and then I just got a little burnt out

By the time I was both eager to play again and also had the time to I had dropped bc of new seasons

And I just haven’t been playing much

I got back up thru plat during avatar and then haven’t played tmnt at all

[twilit canyon]

i've been decently busy but my streak of zendikar rising to tarkir dragonstorm mythic will be something i remember well

[tardy echo]

We should go back to zendikar again too

And just have the eldrazi come back because why not

[burnt relic]

WORD

free emrakul from the moon

[tardy echo]

She trapped herself in the moon clearly that will become relevant again

Surely…

It’s a chekhovs for whenever they run out of plot to line

[twilit canyon]

which is probably soon

watch

jace will have been controlled by emrakul this whole time

[tardy echo]

Wait actually that would make sense

Well it wouldn’t for the last 10 years but for the last 10 months it wouldn’t either actually

But it would be cool

And this time Liliana can actually solo

[glad peak]

Liliana? You mean the lady who created a land army to fight against a flying spaghet monster?

[tardy echo]

She actually created the land army to fight the spaghetti monsters land army

Idk if it got retconned or something but I’m p sure Liliana not only faced off directly w emrakul but like actually put a dent in her

But that was chain veil so

[glad peak]

Or did she pretend like liliana hurt her so she can have a date with Jace

[zinc shard]

Moment of Reckoning

3WWBB

Sorcery

Choose up to four. You may choose the same mode more than once.

Destroy target nonland permanent.

Return target nonland permanent card from your graveyard to the battlefield.

The archaics experience all of Arcavian history. Changing that fate threatens their very existence.

[subtle sierra]

That's one expensive ass card

[tardy echo]

Actual commander card

But it’s cool

[subtle sierra]

Oh it's def cool

I miss [[blood on the snow]] and this is similar

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/khm/79/blood-on-the-snow

Blood on the Snow <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Snow Sorcery
Choose one —
• Destroy all creatures.
• Destroy all planeswalkers.
Then return a creature or planeswalker card with mana value X or less from your graveyard to the battlefield, where X is the amount of spent to cast this spell. ( is mana from a snow source.)

[subtle sierra]

The new thing has more versatility for more mana and being two colored

[subtle sierra]

New bramble

[trail anvil]

3 mana 4/4 deathtouch hot damn

the creature cheat for 5 mana at instant speed is something else too

[glad peak]

And it enters prepared with no stupid condition

Solid

[twilit canyon]

just solid

damn

[glad peak]

That’s the highest praise a green card will get from me

[subtle sierra]

I can't wait to pull this in prerelease

It sounds nuts in limited

[atomic harness]

Wth 3 mana 4/4 death touch with reanimation and mill

[atomic harness]

@sleek ferry wake up son

[subtle sierra]

[[ruinous rampage]] wow they patched in mass artifact removal into standard, i fucking missed it

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/158/ruinous-rampage

Ruinous Rampage <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>

Sorcery
Choose one —
• Ruinous Rampage deals 3 damage to each opponent.
• Exile all artifacts with mana value 3 or less.
Kav battle rhetoric teaches that there are no malfunctions on the battlefield, just equipment that need to be utilized differently.

[subtle sierra]

And we had it for a while

[subtle sierra]

Whoa

[trail anvil]

dualcaster fans everywhere shaking their fists at wizards for "this spell can't be copied" becoming a recurring thing

[atomic harness]

Dualcaster-chan...

[subtle sierra]

Of is that

It's choose one or both

This can go hella crazy

[atomic harness]

That card is insane

[atomic harness]

Here you go son @glad peak

[tardy echo]

We are so back

[steady onyx]

hi dad!

[atomic harness]

Hello

new strixhaven is looking very good

[steady onyx]

yes

im buying a box

to draft for my birthday!

and doding a pre

and my friend is doing the same for his birthday

[knotty ferry]

Holy shit I just played vs what I think was jeskai control

That deck looks sick

I should've realized it was that earlier on and started to pressure them

But I let them scale and got cooked

Fun game tho

[stark skiff]

wasnt hyped for it but it seems to have a lot of good pickups

might get a collector box

[subtle sierra]

hopesinger is a cute sidegrade for cosmogrand in momo decks

although ig you need instants and sorcs for her

[sleek ferry]

This is probably more of an aggro card than cosmogrand

Works nicely with firebending so you can actually get value on 3

[tardy echo]

Also has a better attacking body than cosmo

[stark skiff]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/252175743512084480/1491453075024773272/en_dorOlfGCkg.webp?ex=69d7bf6a&is=69d66dea&hm=b117d1cf61809d2ca3fb74db016890642f812511f2598a6cb02ea85b88a39921&=&format=webp&width=464&height=648

[tardy echo]

Wao it’s a 4 mana 4/4

[golden plover]

Just ran into a Ketramose Roots player. You know their ass was playing slow as shit and wouldn't scoop when they were losing for like 6 turns

[twilit canyon]

its sto

*stp

[glad peak]

Scp

[twilit canyon]

1ww
3/3
on etb, an opp makes a 1/1 inkling, if they control more creatures than you, it becomes prepared

and it prepares stp

there we go tcg uploaded

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1168011460614574090/1491470270060298310/yxydtx5ypztg1.webp?ex=69d7cf6e&is=69d67dee&hm=169a608f78a1b6b5a8cf072e6736222d30a7e9ca3f9a09cbe7559c7a69de0d38&=&format=webp&width=664&height=669

[fallow citrus]

oh shit

[golden plover]

Okay this one is surprisingly good

[twilit canyon]

yeah i misread that it is target player makes a 1/1 with flying

and if you are out-creatured, you prepare the fucker

kinda goated control piece

[atomic harness]

This is v cracked

[stark skiff]

wow white blinkable swords

this is cracked

[copper pecan]

twobrid my beloved

[golden plover]

2 mana 1/1, 3 mana 3/3, 4 mana 4/4

[knotty ferry]

Holy shit I just played against a crazy dragon deck

It was like

They had an enchantment where if you place a land, summon a dragon token

Idr the name

On entry it blows up ur guys

And with [[ugin]]

[lost widget]

Multiple cards match “ugin”, can you be more specific?

[knotty ferry]

[[ugin Planeswalker]]

[lost widget]

No card found for “ugin Planeswalker”

[knotty ferry]

[[ugin eye of storm]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/1/ugin-eye-of-the-storms

Ugin, Eye of the Storms <:mana7:292901508540792835>

Legendary Planeswalker — Ugin
When you cast this spell, exile up to one target permanent that's one or more colors.
Whenever you cast a colorless spell, exile up to one target permanent that's one or more colors.
+2: You gain 3 life and draw a card.
0: Add .
−11: Search your library for any number of colorless nonland cards, exile them, then shuffle. Until end of turn, you may cast those cards without paying their mana costs.
Loyalty: 7

[knotty ferry]

This

[tardy echo]

[[dragonback assault]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/179/dragonback-assault

Dragonback Assault <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338><:manar:292901508796645397>

Enchantment
When this enchantment enters, it deals 3 damage to each creature and each planeswalker.
Landfall — Whenever a land you control enters, create a 4/4 red Dragon creature token with flying.

[tardy echo]

This is the best one btw

The baseline is a 3 mana 4/4 and most of the time it’s 3 mana 4/4 that’s also stp

[subtle sierra]

prerelease booked 🙏

all 3 days

[stark skiff]

As someone who had no hype for this set I’m not surprised. A lot of good stuff is in this set.

[sleek ferry]

You were objectively wrong

You’re welcome

[past socket]

I had at least heard good things about the previous Strixhaven’s Mystical Archive

So was deeply hyped by it returning when it was announced and and it exceeded what I was expecting

[copper pecan]

yeah the art in the first mystical archive was incredible

[past socket]

The Stock Up already was a good sign to me at least

Bit goddamn for some of these reprints!

[tardy echo]

What major card types are we still missing bonus alt art sheets for at this point

We’ve gotten one for enchantments lands instant/sorceries

[past socket]

[[!Pongify|SOA]] especially

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/soa/20/pongify

Pongify

[tardy echo]

Bro was sort of artifacts…

[glad peak]

A crackpot (cope) theory I just heard was that theyre reprinting so many cedh cards in strix because wotc’s trying to do official cedh events

Somehow I doubt that

[tardy echo]

[copper pecan]

i really, really doubt that

also i don't like that they're putting pongify into arena

it's a really egregious pie break

[glad peak]

It would be pretty funny to see ngl

[trail anvil]

don't we already have it in arena

I don't really see the point in not adding previous cards because they're pie breaks either. complaining about a new digital only card being a pie break makes sense to me but not that

[copper pecan]

i just don't want to play against it

also scryfall is saying it's not already in arena

[vivid hatch]

unironically feels very strong

[trail anvil]

there's some other similar effect

why don't you want to play against it anyways

we have rapid hybridization, it's almost the exact same effect minus different types on the token

[copper pecan]

ngl i didn't realize that was in arena

i just don't like it

it's not a huge deal or anything but i'd prefer if they didn't put stuff like that in

[knotty ferry]

plat 3

idk if theres much magic left to gather

[twilit canyon]

u havent gathered magic until you've double mythic'ed

[vivid hatch]

Arena is the tutorial

[trail anvil]

I mean there's no format in arena where it's legal and good so you won't see it anyways probably

[trail anvil]

this certainly is a blink card of all time

I feel like this could've exiled a nonland permanent or even been a common

[fallow citrus]

ennis, reddit moderator

[trail anvil]

they seem way too charming for that

[sleek ferry]

Sigh Komi isn’t thinking like a ketr*mose player

[trail anvil]

well that's certainly recurrable advantage

[trail anvil]

hot damn

[lusty trench]

"Just what my low power limited environment needed, a 4 mana 7/6 trampler with ward"

[twilit canyon]

this into armag

[lusty trench]

Fuckin thanks wotc I really want to face this in limited really badly

(Im being whiny this probably isnt as bad to face as I'm thinking but man I hate super above rate stat check cards in limited)

[copper pecan]

how do i explain to someone that [[raddic]] isn't busted

[lost widget]

No card found for “raddic”

[copper pecan]

[[raddic, tal zealot]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ybro/22/raddic-tal-zealot

Raddic, Tal Zealot <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Knight
Hexproof from white and from black
Whenever one or more Knights you control attack, draft a card from Raddic, Tal Zealot's spellbook.
4/4

[copper pecan]

i pointed out to him that nobody is running this card in historic or timeless

but he didn't listen to that

[lusty trench]

He seems fine nothing special

If he low rolls you suck an egg and if he high rolls you just kinda have decent but not spectacular cards

[sleek ferry]

What would even be considered a highroll in that spellbook?

[copper pecan]

the caveliers i guess

[lusty trench]

Murderous rider and cavaliers

Rider just because hey it may cost a lot but it is still removal

[trail anvil]

this card is busted if you're doing nothing for a long time

[copper pecan]

yeah i guess if your deck is extremely slow this would be unstoppable but like

this is functionally just "when one or more knights you control attack, draw a mediocre card" like 80% of the time

[trail anvil]

you can also do the same thing with the 2 mana slimefoot tbh

[twilit canyon]

show them sheoldred the apocalyse at the same mana value?

actually show him pyrogoyf

[glad peak]

Hell, just show them flame tongue kavu even

[past socket]

got some MKM and some neat stuff

Abd love my MKM full art basics

[glad peak]

Oh hey shadowy backshots

Great card

[past socket]

Gotta love Surveils

[stark skiff]

good thing the ward is now and not before when they were slapping ward 4 on whatever

[zinc shard]

https://www.reddit.com/r/mtg/comments/1sgawj5/1_year_since_just_got_banned_from_a_card_store/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[glad peak]

oh hey it's this guy

[knotty ferry]

Is this legal to play? How TF do u play this with no text lol

[twilit canyon]

you remember the text and/or bring a copy with the text as a reminder

[glad peak]

just know what it says 5head

[twilit canyon]

this but unironically

[trail anvil]

you're allowed to look up text too afaik

like with neuron in Yugioh

[twilit canyon]

you could but a powermove is also reciting the card text verbatim without looking it up

its akin to putting your nuts on the table

(card complexity required tho)

[knotty ferry]

Ok if my opponent uses this it's a vanilla

This shit is troll lol

"yeah bro let me read ur card"

[twilit canyon]

you dont know what sothera the supervoid does?

its simple

opp sacks their shii

then it dies

[knotty ferry]

Doesn't say that on the card 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/blackhole-space-astronomy-gif-25036689

[twilit canyon]

the judge will disagree with u

[glad peak]

if you don't know all the errata and textless card's oracle text then are you a magic player?

[trail anvil]

obligatory https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7gsbAlODEX4

[twilit canyon]

"you are wizard's target audience" really is brutal

[trail anvil]

that was so hurtful

[subtle sierra]

i can recite yugioh cards verbatim, i think mtg card are waaaay easier

[glad peak]

You are also wizard’s target audience

[honest berry]

I’m starting my true villain arc. I ordered a rhystic study

Now I don’t one to be the common study player who ask “do you pay the 1,” so what should I say or ask instead?
“Study.”
“Study trigger.”
“Do I draw the 1?”

[glad peak]

I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone irl say “do you pay the 1”

It’s just “trigger” and point

[atomic harness]

I usually say rhystic or rhystic trigger

[honest berry]

There’s one at my local shop

[glad peak]

Theyre the true uncommon rhystic player

Not doing that would make you the common rhystic player

[atomic harness]

What's going on...? @sleek ferry @trail anvil @glad peak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL6P9Qq0GYQ

[trail anvil]

idk I don't play cedh lol

[atomic harness]

Oh word

[stark skiff]

smartest user here

[glad peak]

The only way to be smart is to not play edh at all

[glad peak]

But yeah these guys are known to not play cedh or 1v1 tournaments at all but love to pump out videos regarding them, wouldn’t be surprised if they haven’t played even commander in the past couple years

[atomic harness]

[glad peak]

The whole “draws are ruining events” thing is everywhere but people just focus on cedh because it’s the most likely thing people will understand (as in they see it’s commander but faster, most commander players don’t have experience in 1v1)

[urban crane]

anyone thinking to pick up any of the precons?

[trail anvil]

probably the simic one

[trail anvil]

kinda interesting to get a quest style enchantment in this set but lifegain is super easy to trigger at least

[glad peak]

Oh it’s a trigger per instance

Didnt think we’d see those again, usually it’s either batch or end phase triggers nowadays

[subtle sierra]

@golden plover new otter brew

https://www.mtgtop8.com/event?e=83163&d=831918&f=ST

Ig you don't need white if you just have firdoch lol

[fallow citrus]

why the snail I haven't seen this posted yet

unless it was a leak

[subtle sierra]

.

[fallow citrus]

oh sure

[tardy echo]

Wait blex died wtf

[subtle sierra]

pests don't tend to live for long

blex was an exception

considering this is a timeskip iirc, and post invasion

i think it's quite likely blex died from either

i can't find an exact card with art that kills blex or smth so that's just a guess

[sleek ferry]

RIP Blex, somehow more memorable than Tibalt

[subtle sierra]

also til bat in itallian is pipistrello and it's so fucking cute of a word

his alt art is cute

he chillin'

[sleek ferry]

Aw, what a cute little doggy

[zinc shard]

Im definetely picking up the Quandrix one, idk about the others yet

[sleek ferry]

I’m picking up all 5 as long as I can get them for a reasonable price of around $180 for all 5

[lusty trench]

Im honestly super surprised by the reprint value in these decks

[sleek ferry]

Why? The tmnt commander deck was literally around 200 worth of reprint value

[lusty trench]

It also has a higher msrp

Silverquil deck has sold out for msrp everywhere here lol

I think these have better reprint value than the mh3 decks did which is good to see

[sleek ferry]

Seems to be at around $65 on tcgplayer too, but those prices will likely dip once allocation gets right

People forget, but the OG strixhaven commander decks were also great value

[sleek ferry]

[[nature's rhytmn]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdm/150/natures-rhythm

Nature's Rhythm <:manax:292901509082120202><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Sorcery
Search your library for a creature card with mana value X or less, put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle.
Harmonize (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its harmonize cost. You may tap a creature you control to reduce that cost by an amount of generic mana equal to its power. Then exile this spell.)

[sleek ferry]

hmm, this being instant speed is not bad

[twilit canyon]

3 mana lol

[sleek ferry]

it's also hand or gy

[tardy echo]

[[archdruids charm]] is the only other instant tutor like this currently in standard right

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/151/archdruids-charm

Archdruid's Charm <:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Choose one —
• Search your library for a creature or land card and reveal it. Put it onto the battlefield tapped if it's a land card. Otherwise, put it into your hand. Then shuffle.
• Put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control. It deals damage equal to its power to target creature you don't control.
• Exile target artifact or enchantment.

[tardy echo]

Same rate but this is also modal

Seems like a fine enough card though idk

[sleek ferry]

I think the fact that you can choose between hand or gy is kinda big

it's the first tutor we've had like this no?

it's usually only 1 or the other

[golden plover]

Isn't this kind of tutor historically kinda bad?

I mean, tutors as a whole are typically not the move in constructed

[sleek ferry]

We’ve never had one that does both

[golden plover]

I mean I guess?

[sleek ferry]

And the only reason it’s relevant is because superior spiderman exists

[golden plover]

What's the idea here? T3 this into t4 Kavero?

[twilit canyon]

yes eladamri's call is only playable because it is 2 mana

at 3 its too much

[golden plover]

Also, I can't see a world where you play this over speaker

Speaker just does this job much better

[sleek ferry]

Speaker discards than adds, this is always getting you what you want for t4 at instant speed so they can’t strategic betrayal you, and have to telegraph their lanterns/ghost vacuums.

[tardy echo]

It’s a cool card with a unique niche but idt it’ll be super comp

[glad peak]

I know were dooming that it was gonna be worse [[lively dirge]] at 3 mana because dump is that mana and you get a discount with dirge if you want to put anything 3/4cmc with Dina’s

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/93/lively-dirge

Lively Dirge <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Spree (Choose one or more additional costs.)

• — Search your library for a card, put it into your graveyard, then shuffle.
• — Return up to two creature cards with total mana value 4 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield.
  "Now rip your partner from the grave, and form an undead killing wave!"

[tardy echo]

This seems like a decent card btw

[twilit canyon]

yea seems dece

[tardy echo]

Esp once get lost rotates

[twilit canyon]

honestly giving them a 1/1 is often better than them getting the maps

[tardy echo]

Yeah but get lost also hits

[twilit canyon]

but no pw removal

[tardy echo]

A bunch of other stuff

Yeah

[twilit canyon]

and no enchantment/artifact etc

[tardy echo]

Erode hits pws but once rotation hits it’ll be harder for white to hit artifacts/enchantments in general again

I can’t think of a ton of strong removal for those in recent sets

[subtle sierra]

get lost doesn't hit artifacts

[twilit canyon]

ik

[twilit canyon]

at least none that are good yea

which is weird. its one of white's main things to be able to hit them

[subtle sierra]

honestly i think this is better than shit like [[fateful absence]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/mid/18/fateful-absence

Fateful Absence <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target creature or planeswalker. Its controller investigates. (Create a Clue token. It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Draw a card.")
Sensing a plot, Sorin raced to his grandfather's resting-crypt. But someone else had gotten there first.

[twilit canyon]

hmmmm maybe honestly

again, doesnt hit walkers

but yea the 1/1

[subtle sierra]

starcage eats small ones

[twilit canyon]

even if flies

[subtle sierra]

at least artifacts

also ultima

what white lacks now is enchantment removal, which is fine for a set or two since talents rotate

if you really need it hella bad you have aang's iceberg but ehh

[tardy echo]

Ultima and starcage both have pretty big asterisks

At least compared to idk good old disenchant

Which for the record is standard legal but not really on rate anymore

[subtle sierra]

it's not like disenchant is gone or anything

[tardy echo]

Disenchant is just not terribly good

[subtle sierra]

there's [[pyrrhic strike]] but lol

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ecl/30/pyrrhic-strike

Pyrrhic Strike <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
As an additional cost to cast this spell, you may blight 2. (You may put two -1/-1 counters on a creature you control.)
Choose one. If this spell's additional cost was paid, choose both instead.
• Destroy target artifact or enchantment.
• Destroy target creature with mana value 3 or greater.

[twilit canyon]

theres gotta be actual playables

[subtle sierra]

there was some lorwyn 2 cost

lemme find it

[twilit canyon]

wasnt there one in ff?

[subtle sierra]

[[keep out]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/ecl/19/keep-out

Keep Out <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Choose one —
• Keep Out deals 4 damage to target tapped creature.
• Destroy target enchantment.
"We don't want your kind round here."

[twilit canyon]

oh yeah this one is playable

[tardy echo]

Tons of mystical archive reveals

Among many others

The preordain and glimpse are super sexy

[twilit canyon]

i love the prismatic too

brain freeze as well

[subtle sierra]

oh yeah scryfall has like a million of them that weren't posted

i didn't want to spam like 50 cards

[tardy echo]

Dismember, living end, abrade, brotherhoods end all notable other ones

[subtle sierra]

https://scryfall.com/sets/soa?order=spoiled&as=grid

[tardy echo]

The living end is so sexy

[subtle sierra]

anime girl crop rotation...

[tardy echo]

It’ll feel less bad losing to it now

Wait there’s crop rot

Holy

[subtle sierra]

yeah

[tardy echo]

The awaken looks really good too

[twilit canyon]

anime girl abrade too

[subtle sierra]

they also made hop to it it's cute

@gilded glade you

[twilit canyon]

the berserk art is so cool

[gilded glade]

[tardy echo]

Holy…

Pyp

Anime girl veil too

[subtle sierra]

why was pyp good btw? it's just a classic green removal

was it cause 1 mana?

[twilit canyon]

sac

gets around indestructible

[twilit canyon]

when the one ring was popular and around for instance

[subtle sierra]

ah sure

[subtle sierra]

this is meh

[twilit canyon]

but also they choose too so it gets around anything that'd give protection/hexproof as well

[subtle sierra]

[[overprotect]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/185/overprotect

Overprotect <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manag:292901508654301185>

Instant
Target creature you control gets +3/+3 and gains trample, hexproof, and indestructible until end of turn.
"Blor's defenses are impervious!" —Blor the Impervious

[subtle sierra]

i mean ig counters vs temp buff but still

[tardy echo]

Stargaze archive looks so hot I wish that card was good

I don’t mean to keep spamming but HOLY

[tardy echo]

Winds of abandon is also hot asf

Both arts

[stark skiff]

Woah they're reprinting Angel's Grace

[tardy echo]

This archive is banger

[golden plover]

I wish they didn't fuck with the rates tho

[stark skiff]

fuck now everyone is gonna use it in my locals lol

[golden plover]

It's only a 12% chance at a rare and 3% chance at a mythic

[stark skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/the-money-is-always-right-mr-krabs-spongebob-gif-7368388179594875238

[subtle sierra]

wow i love this one

[stark skiff]

wish the Jpn art was in english. My dumbass will forget what the card is and I've seen people need to lookup the translation everytime they play it. Shit is not worth it.

[knotty ferry]

These cards are fake right

only SOS are real right

[subtle sierra]

by fake you mean not standard legal?

soa is not standard legal by itself

[tardy echo]

Some of them are standard legal

Most aren’t

[knotty ferry]

Wtf

[subtle sierra]

it ofc has cards has cards that are legal due to them being printed in another standard set

well what cake said

[knotty ferry]

Ok like, the bitter triumph alt art I assume is

[copper pecan]

once again i must affirm that dominik mayer is the goat of all time

[subtle sierra]

such as stock up and bitter triumph

[tardy echo]

It is legal but rotating soon

[knotty ferry]

But not preordain

[tardy echo]

WORD

[knotty ferry]

Wait what's rotating soln

Soon

[urban crane]

Opinion on that ancestral recal card?

[knotty ferry]

Isn't standard rotation in 2027

[copper pecan]

standard rotation isn't until january

[tardy echo]

Mystical archive is a bonus sheet. This means that it is a set entirely of reprints, but these reprints do not enter standard and are not treated as a set

Sooner than not

[golden plover]

At the time of printing, (nearly) every uncommon in the mystical archives will be standard legal

The exception being [[Monstrous Rage]] because it's banned

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/woe/142/monstrous-rage

Monstrous Rage <:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
Target creature gets +2/+0 until end of turn. Create a Monster Role token attached to it. (If you control another Role on it, put that one into the graveyard. Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 and has trample.)
"My, what big paws y—" —Thomas the woodsman, last words

[urban crane]

Opinions on this thing?

[knotty ferry]

So what's rotating

[subtle sierra]

it's fine

we've talked about him multiple times already

his body is fine for a 5 cost and the draw spell is ok for it to drop at 6, and he can repeat it in longer games

standard control body

🤷‍♂️

[rigid scarab]

https://youtu.be/-HgK34RYN9U?si=uol_IhI23je_8J8z

Omg cardmarket haaaaaiiii

[urban crane]

Anything crazy from strixhaven?

[rigid scarab]

Lurrus Breach pre-companion change

[subtle sierra]

poe sidegrade

[[erode]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/sos/15/erode

Erode <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Instant
Destroy target creature or planeswalker. Its controller may search their library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
"Our lives are built upon our pasts. What happens, then, if we are cut off from them?" —Augusta, dean of order

[subtle sierra]

also stock up sidegrade [[flow state]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/sos/49/flow-state

Flow State <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Look at the top three cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order. If there is an instant card and a sorcery card in your graveyard, instead put two of them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.

[subtle sierra]

there's also a RR chose one or both copy target instant/sorc or copy target creature spell but it has haste and dies at the end

oh and [[flashback]]

[lost widget]

https://scryfall.com/card/sos/115/flashback

Flashback <:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
Target instant or sorcery card in your graveyard gains flashback until end of turn. The flashback cost is equal to its mana cost. (You may cast that card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
Quintorius found that every new discovery motivated him to keep exploring.

[subtle sierra]

the elder dragons are all decent-ish

[urban crane]

Also tbh I really want to see the doom commander deck

I know it’s a bit away but still

[glad peak]

They should do something incredibly funny and based and make all of these standard legal

[subtle sierra]

it's like ok

[golden plover]

So it's like ouroborid that if it resolves you've got it

[subtle sierra]

for 5 it's not on cost but every turn it's fine

[tardy echo]

I mean that’s the idea with the cards no

[glad peak]

It’s my favorite trap

[tardy echo]

It’s an overcosted effect but it’s v hard to interact with

[glad peak]

One of the cards I expect a lot of YouTubers to take advantage of

[subtle sierra]

the red one could not have paradigm and would have been decent-ish

with paradigm it's nuts

[glad peak]

The red one could have changed the numbers a bit without paradigm and be legitimately good

I can’t wait to see the decks that try to spam out huge creatures for free in modern with the paradigm

[subtle sierra]

yeah cast 4+ cost spells from top is decent, cause if you have big things you cheat it out

the paradigm just lets you run smaller stuff cause you do it every turn

[glad peak]

There has to be a mathematical way to guarantee at least an eldrazi after taking into account rituals

[tardy echo]

New living end enabler just dropped gg

[glad peak]

Nah this is more like a much worse version of the trickery deck

Like much much worse

[tardy echo]

I was gonna say no but I misread it this whole time

I thought it was like dance with calamity where if u go past 4 it busts

But it’s just trickery